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On The Topic of Dave Weigel

2:15 PM ET, 06/25/2010

My message to the WaPo on the Dave Weigel "controversy"...


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I heartily agree with that sentiment.

Posted by: lcrider1 | June 25, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I must have hurt poor Mr. Kaplan's fee-fees with my previous comment about him sucking up to that slighty-reformed dumpster diver, plaigarist, and Usenet spammer Matt Drudge, because he had my comment deleted. I stand by it, and I stand with Dave Weigel. The Washington Post management, by firing Dave Weigel over such a tiny slight, has proved that it is a bunch of cowards kissing the collective butts of the Right Wing noise machine.

Posted by: tbetz | June 25, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Posts like this make Baby Gerson cry.

Posted by: hellslittlestangel1 | June 25, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Well, my WaPo subscription fees are one bill I can stop paying. I'll put that toward something useful.

Posted by: gsquared100 | June 25, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I have to agree on this with Mr Not Larry.

Have some courage, Washington Post.

Posted by: stoystown | June 25, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I care less about the blogospheric politics, but so, so right on. BTW WashPost...That Dave Weigel guy 1) posted some interesting stuff on your site 2) Judging from what he released on his apology, really did nothing that anyone could demonstrate was wrong. Even though he "rules your world" Drudge is a very mentally ill shut-in and I liked Byron York at NRO, but he has disappeared off the scene all together since he launched his new website.

Posted by: LeRiverend | June 25, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Good point, Not Larry. However, imho it would have been even more appropriate to write

Posted by: Gray62 | June 25, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Post is sadly no longer a must read publication and hasn't been for quite some time.

Posted by: dcmykl | June 25, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Why does the WaPo kow-tow to the likes of Fred Hiatt, George Will, and their ignorant followers?? Those few of you left on the Post who DO know what's happening to your paper are truly cowards....anyONE can say anyTHING outrageous, stretch the truth, whatever (Will does it all the time, gets caught, and is allowed to roam free to spew his sophistry) - - as long as that person does not smack of left-of-center - - if they do, OFF WITH THEIR HEADS! to paraphrase a fictitiously-real Wonderland character - - vide Dan Froomkin (the best blogger you ever had) and now, Dave Weigl - - didst displease Freddy-Poo?? Or was it Georgie??....Or Charlie, or Howie?? In any case, you have turned this paper into a rag (figuratively, at least) that isn't worth the paper it's printed on, or the bytes it takes up in cyber-space - - saving me the trouble of bothering with it, anymore....Bye-bye, Righties!! Maybe you can get a job on Faux News, once your formerly-great paper folds....

Posted by: lbslps | June 25, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

As a subscriber to WaPo I am disgusted at this action. What is happening to the Post. I used to really enjoy reading it, but no more. It was a bastion of good liberal writing and opinion. Now we have clowns like Will, Michael Gearson,etc. The Post is going Right. Well count me out I am no renewing my subscription.

Posted by: hmrc1 | June 25, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

I just read that Dave Weigel resigned his position with the Post.

This is a sad day for the Post and an even sadder one for the conservative "movement".

Conservatives don't realize that having a trusted independent voice covering their work is the only way to create visibility and credibility with those outside their tent.

Beck, Rush, and Drudge appeal only to those true believers that have crossed from the rational into the fuzzy arena of faith. People seeking validation, and not necessarily analysis or challenging information, read or listen most loyally to them. There are so many dangers to them and America presented that Beck and other like him can air daily shows for hours on end. Be afraid is the running theme! A black Democrat is in the White House! BE AFRAID!

Thoughtful Independents, wavering democrats and the politically uninvolved require more accuracy and balanced analysis in the media to be convinced to new ideas. That is what Dave provided and what the "movement" wanted snuffed out.

Dave will be missed but I'm sure he will find a good spot that offers more independence and distance from Drudge's attack dogs.

Posted by: BobSanderson | June 25, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Dave Weigel has won the jackpot! He no longer has to pretend to be fair and balanced. He can be just plain fair.

Posted by: terryolson | June 25, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

.... And the Limbaugh-wing conservative circle jerk pats itself on the back.

Loyalty before logic.
Fealty before brains.

Congrats wingnuts. You just crucified one of your best friends.

Posted by: gregroa | June 26, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

It's gone from joke to scary now. Scary, because the 'conservative' viewpoint has been left to half-wits like Palin and nutcases like Beck to reduce any ideas that 'might have been' to mindless soundbites to the increasingly dumbed-down Obama-haters.

Seriously, that is all there is! No discourse, no debate, no exchange of opinions based on thoughtful examination of facts. A healthy Democracy cannot thrive without these, any more than it can survive without a free press to inform the citizenry. There is a reason the 1st amendment came FIRST ...... it's because without IT, the others can't hold up.

One by one, the intelligent voices of Conservatism are being exiled (Frum is one that comes to mind) and replaced by those care more about being 'famous' than being part of the process.

Posted by: Archivist1000 | June 26, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Don't sugarcoat it, tell 'em what you really think!

Posted by: haramagoti | June 26, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Not Larry, thank you so much for your brilliant addition to the discussion. I so look forward to your insight and interpretation of current events. If you can't add to the conversation, keep your mouth shut.

Posted by: hdc77494 | June 26, 2010 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Just thought I'd stop by to jeer a little as the WaPo continues its long, painful slide into oblivion. Still publishing Fred Hiatt? Will? Still got the hidebound right-wing editorial page? That's great. Keep publishing people who've been shown, over and over, to be dishonest, bigoted and just plain wrong, while firing people with a spark of honesty and perceptiveness. Keep alienating--really, insulting the intelligence of--your readers. Just a couple more years... .

Posted by: NoOneYouKnow | June 26, 2010 2:00 AM | Report abuse

Dave Weigel, thank god, is gone. He can now go hang out with boy maddow. Weigel had not one iota of integrity. An angry man with poch-marked skin.

Posted by: ilikemudflats | June 26, 2010 2:16 AM | Report abuse

They say if you copy something, like a picture or a sound, 1,000 times over, making a copy from a copy, eventually it all just degenerates into background noise, except in the digi-world, the 1,000th copy ends up being identical to the original, which is what has the music industry people so torqued. Well, also in this digi-world, we copy thoughts, ideas, and so forth, from each other. Bunch of copycats, endlessly relaying information back and forth. But, maybe it also ends up turning into a big echo chamber, and anything you say can propagate a really long ways away, kind of like yelling, "HELLO!" into a canyon, eventually, your word comes back to you.
But, in amid all this communication, copying, and echoing back and forth, you then yell, "@W#$@@#$@#$"!!!, or "@#$@$"!!! That, too, will come bouncing back, probably also along with some replies, even pithier and more well-considered than the original. Should words like @#$@#, #$%#%, or #$%#$ be banned? Some websites don't tolerate any of that kind of stuff, and when you tell them to @#$@ off, they will then tell you to go @#$@ yourself, and terminate your account. It's hard to say, exactly, what the @#$@$@@ problem was here to begin with, suffice it to say that when people start throwing these kinds of @#$@#$@ words around, polite discourse has given way to the sort of conversation you'd probably hear in a bar after say, 5 beers. Can't we all just get along?

Posted by: walkerbert | June 26, 2010 4:45 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Weigel was a refreshing breath of fresh air on a tired, greying, old paper. I never for a minute thought he was some ultra conservative..... a Charles Krautheimer..... reporting on the right. Who needs more of that baloney on either the left or the right? It is boring, predictable, and uninformative. What I did like was Weigel's insight and analysis. But the old bulls win. They have protected their turf and things will be the same at the Post...... EXCEPT that one more time many of us formerly devoted readers chalk up another mark in the "why do I read WAPO" column. If it were not free on line, I would not.

Posted by: tarryh | June 26, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

The last day I visited WaPo or its house organs (i.e., Slate) was the last day of Dan Froomkin's employment there. Haven't missed much in the interval.

I still hate to see WaPo chasing the Moonie Times down the rabbithole of neocon "logic". One of these days, all that will be left of this once-proud paper will be the lingering, fading grin of a Cheshire cat. And then, it will be no more.

Posted by: jginnane1 | June 26, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

I often wonder who is propping up your stock price... now I think I get it, the same right-wing nutjob billionaire who buys Ann Coulter's books, destined for the landfill.

Posted by: gjcomm | June 26, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

WaPo must have something to hide, because it's the only site who's windows open behind my browser window instead of in front when I click on its links.

Posted by: planesdrifter | June 26, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

I think the ignorant cons can understand that message.

You should write at the HP like Dan.

Posted by: getalife1 | June 26, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Did Dave Weigel ever report dishonestly. Is there evidence that his "bias" ever affected the quality or content of an article?

Did he ever sing the praises of a politician, defend them to the hilt, then get caught by a open microphone saying how ignorant and incompetent that candidate was (i.e, Peggy Noonan of WSJ)?

Does Mr. Weigel reporting embrace or promote an agenda?

Could you identify Mr. Weigels politics from his reporting? (We know the answer is no, since the editors believed him to be a conservative.)

What, again, was the reason that WaPo fired Mr. Weigle?

Posted by: jsump | June 26, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I had lots of respect for the WP ever since I lived in DC in the 60's for 4 years, until about 5 years ago. I realized then that while I wasn't looking as closely, it had turned right and that I didn't agree with most of what was published.

I have to read the Dallas Morning News which is pretty right since I live here but I can't tolerate picking through another right paper, although I do read Drudge and several right blogs to keep on top of what the far right is up to.
Now, I never read Slate or the WP unless it is a reporter I trust to be either overtly biased or unbiased.

Posted by: rain39 | June 26, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I was shocked when I heard this, but I guess if you want dance with the devil you have to pay the band. The WaPo wants to go right wing for what reason only God knows. I just can't get one thing who doesn’t know that Matt Drudge is a world class A ‘hole, only Sean Hannity or the Drugster recognizes his crap for “news”? And you have to forgive Hannity he’s an idiot and Rush is a drugged out burn out who made himself deaf dumb and stupid. I just guess we can say goodbye to the WaPo. First CNN now this.

Posted by: cjany | June 26, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

I was shocked when I heard this, but I guess if you want dance with the devil you have to pay the band. The WaPo wants to go right wing for what reason only God knows. I just can't get one thing who doesn’t know that Matt Drudge is a world class A ‘hole, only Sean Hannity or the Drugster recognizes his crap for “news”? And you have to forgive Hannity he’s an idiot and Rush is a drugged out burn out who made himself deaf dumb and stupid. I just guess we can say goodbye to the WaPo. First CNN now this.

Posted by: cjany | June 26, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

It's not widely known, but towards the end of his second term, his brain already ravaged by Alzheimers disease, President Ronald Reagan had a lengthy discussion with syndicated columnist George Will about the philosophy of conservatism.

Posted by: GerhardWMagnus | June 26, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

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