Congresswoman, Twelve Others Shot In Arizona
U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Arizona) and twelve other people were shot on Saturday after a gunman opened fire during a campaign event in Tucson, Arizona.
Witnesses say that Giffords was shot at point blank range in the head while holding one of her “Congress on your Corner” events at a local Safeway grocery store.
At least six people were killed in the attack – including a 9-year-old girl. Quoting a local sheriff’s office source, several news outlets including NPR initially reported that Giffords had also expired from her wounds, although her office her spokesman quickly called those reports inaccurate.
Later, it was revealed that Giffords underwent surgery at the hospital where she and other of the victims were rushed.
“The Congresswoman is not deceased,” Dr. Peter Rhee, trauma surgeon at University Medical Center in Tucson told reporters. “She is in critical condition. I am very optimistic about recovery.”
Sources at the scene said that Giffords was speaking with a couple when a man opened fire from about four feet away. As many as twelve people were wounded during the attack.
Moments before she was shot, Giffords sent out this “Tweet” to her network inviting them to attend her event.
The alleged gunman – who has yet to be identified – was taken into custody shortly after the incident. Described as a white male in his late teens or early 20s, he was reportedly tackled by a bystander while attempting to flee the scene.
Giffords, 40, was first elected to the U.S. House in 2006. Prior to being elected to the U.S. Congress she served in the Arizona House and Senate. Giffords narrowly avoided being ousted in November’s GOP wave, however, edging Iraq War veteran Jesse Kelly by less than 2 percent of the vote. Kelly was supported by the Tea Party movement – including former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
Described as a “moderate” Democrat, Giffords nonetheless supported President Barack Obama’s bailout and his socialized medicine plan. As a result of her vote in favor of “Obamacare,” her office was vandalized and she reportedly received several threats.
Giffords is married to husband astronaut Mark E. Kelley, a veteran of three space shuttle missions and the scheduled commander for the final space shuttle flight in April.
Obviously our thoughts and prayers go out to him as well as the family and friends of those killed and wounded in this senseless, cowardly attack.
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Medical crews arrive Saturday outside a Safeway grocery store in Tucson, Arizona, after several people were shot.
January 8th, 2011
04:30 PM ET
More on the shootings from affiliates KOLD, KVOA and KGUN [Updated at 4:30 p.m. ET] The suspect in a shooting at an Arizona constituent meeting at a Tucson grocery story is a white male and born in 1988, CNN’s Jeanne Meserve has confirmed from a federal law enforcement source. Six people have died, including a 9-year-old girl, and 12 were injured, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, authorities said. [Updated at 4:07 p.m. ET] Rep. Gabriella Gifford is in critical condition and a young child has died after a shooting at a political meeting at an Arizona grocery store, a hospital spokesman said Saturday. Gifford, who was hosting the event, is under anesthesia after undergoing surgery for a single gunshot wound to the head “through and through,” said Dr. Peter Rhee, Trauma Director at the University Medical Center in Tucson. “The Congresswoman is not deceased. She is in critical condition,” Rhee said in a press conference. “I am very optimistic about recovery.” Giffords publicized the “Congress on Your Corner” meet-up at the Safeway in her southern Arizona district on her Twitter account. Read the complete story on CNN.com [Updated at 3:40 p.m. ET] Six people have died and 12 – including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords – were injured in a shooting at a political meeting at a Tuscon, Arizona, grocery store Saturday, according to Rick Kastigar of the Pima County Sheriff’s Department. [Updated at 3:20 p.m. ET] A suspect is in custody in the shootings of at least 12 people, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, at an constituent meeting at an Arizona grocery store, the U.S. Capitol Police said in a statement. “The suspect is in custody. No further details on the motive or other victims are available at this time,” the statement said. “The U.S. Capitol Police are directly involved in this investigation. As more information is developed, it will be provided. In the interim, all Members and staff are advised to take reasonable and prudent precautions regarding their personal security.” A statement from President Obama confirmed that some people had died. “This morning, in an unspeakable tragedy, a number of Americans were shot in Tuscon, Arizona, at a constituent meeting with Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. And while we are continuing to receive information, we know that some have passed away, and that Representative Giffords is gravely wounded,” he said. “We do not yet have all the answers. What we do know is that such a senseless and terrible act of violence has no place in a free society. I ask all Americans to join me and Michelle in keeping Representative Giffords, the victims of this tragedy, and their families in our prayers.” [Updated at 3:00 p.m. ET] Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is currently undergoing surgery for a gunshot wound to the head, a spokeswoman for the University Medical Center in Tucson said. Nine patients were brought to the hospital, including a child. All of them are in either serious or critcial condition and are undergoing surgery, spokeswoman Darci Slaten said. A federal judge was also among those shot, a law enforcement official said. It is not clear whether he was among those taken to the hospital. [Updated at 2:43 p.m. ET] There were conflicting reports Saturday about the condition of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords following a shooting Saturday at a Tucson, Arizona, grocery store. Giffords’ press secretary said the congresswoman remains in surgery for her injuries, disputing an earlier report from a law enforcement source saying she had died. [Updated at 2:23 p.m. ET] U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords died Saturday after a gunman opened fire at a Tuscon, Arizona grocery store, a law enforcement source said. Giffords, who had been holding a meeting with constituents, was among at least 12 people shot. [Updated at 1:51 p.m. ET] U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was among at least 12 people shot at a Tuscon, Arizona, grocery store, a Democratic source told CNN’s Dana Bash. The source called her injuries “pretty serious.” [Updated at 1:41 p.m. ET] U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was meeting with constituents at a Safeway grocery store in Tuscon, Arizona, where at least 12 people were injured in a shooting shortly after 10 a.m. MST Saturday, a spokesman for the Pima County sheriff’s Department said. It is unclear whether Giffords was among those hurt. “Several” people were shot Saturday at a grocery store in Tucson, We recommendFrom around the web |
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Let’s not bicker, it’s times like this we as Americans, as well as other Countries should come togerther as “One Nation Under God” and Pray for the Victims, Families, & Friends!!!. Thats really all we can do. God Bless you all in your time of need, my Prayers are with you all.
Agree. We should all pray for the victims and condem the act of violence. Let us hope there is nothing behind this deed beyound random senseless. We have had enough of political acrimony for a decade and should be well rid of a need to take political action to its ulimnate conclusion. They tried that in Germany and in some spots in the Middle East it is an acceptied means of political action. We are not in that category – yet.
@Syna
Well said. Our country can not condone such violence, nor rush to judge without enough facts. My prayers for the victims and our nation.
I agree with Jenna to some extent… Didn’t Palin put out a poster with the democrats who voted for the Health Bill listed with sniper targets over them? Wouldn’t take much for some deranged christian republican to take that literally.
We should not rush to judge. But we should judge. And judge all those associated with this act, whether by commission or omission. We did it on Sept. 12, 2001, and by all that’s fair, we should do it again.
I’m hoping for blessings for the victims, but yes, the targets were over many on the poster on Sarah Palin’s Pac page..including over Congresswoman Gifford. It’s irresponsible, regardless of if the shooter was influenced by it. It’s horrid that she has been harassed in the past, and now shot in the head..people have gone insane! If you don’t like what she stands for, vote for her to go! Write letters, do what you can to do change things, don’t kill people!
Outrageous – at this point- that CNN, as journalist or anyone to imply that this is a political incendent. without the least bit of evidence about what the motives of the shooter were.
Under God? It’s the delusional belief that gets people killed.. has the irrational get upset over demons, satan and hell.. all mythical bronze aged beliefs .. whenever their heroes of delusion like Sarah Palin get speaking.
It IS the fault of the delusion promoters like fox anti-news and the deluded religious nutcases. Anyone who believes that dead people rise from the dead and fly out into space.. need to have their heads examined! Please go back to the bronze age and let the rest of us progress with science.. YES SCIENCE that defines the future of nations.
The victims and their families are in my thoughts. Your “God” did not prevent this – what kind of god allows a 9 year old to be taken out with an automatic weapon IN A GROCERY STORE?
All that said…this is an attempted assasination of a congresswoman, this is a first for this nation….what is this country coming to???? All those involved are in my prayers!!!
Jenna your a moron. Kill yourself
Yes we will pray for those involved.
But This I find stunning.
From Firedoglake.com: Giffords’ 2010 Congressional opponent Jesse Kelly held a June 12 gun event that was billed as follows on the Pima County Republican website:
Get on Target for Victory in November Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office Shot a fully automatic M15 with Jesse Kelly
Kelly’s website has apparently scrubbed the event , but here is the account from the Arizona Daily Star:
Jesse Kelly, meanwhile, doesn’t seem to be bothered in the least by the Sarah Palin controversy earlier this year, when she released a list of targeted races in crosshairs, urging followers to “reload” and “aim” for Democrats. Critics said she was inciting violence.
He seems to be embracing his fellow tea partier’s idea. Kelly’s campaign event website has a stern-looking photo of the former Marine in military garb holding his weapon. It includes the headline: “Get on Target for Victory in November. Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office. Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly.”
We live in the world with a lot of sick and crazy people, it’s too bad !
I am sorry for the Representative and her family and aid and their family. The whole CNN broadcast is all about her. What about the 6 people that passed and their families. This is a tragedy for them as well. An innocent child, has passed. I want to hear more about this child as well and the other people who were injured. My thoughts and prayer to all in this horrific unspeakable tragedy. What kind of world do we live in today?
CNN needs to get it correct. So far, 1 dead. Rep. Giffords is out of surgery and alive. And by the way, it’s TUCSON, not TUSCON.
there are six dead shannon….only one of the dead ever made it to the hospital…try and get it right ! ! ! !
Brad, that may be, but no one has CONFIRMED it.
As usual, Shannon is wrong.
Actually only one dead confirmed at one partiular hospital. It is not confirmed that all victims went to the same hospital. More than one is connfirmed dead if you check several news sites some have better coverage at one location while some have better coverage at another location.
Leave it to some idiot like you to split hairs over the kill count. Do the world a favour and go drown yourself.
Jerry, that’s exactly my point. All the different news outlets have conflicting reports. It’s disheartening because this is so tragic. It would be nice if the news agencies, all of them, would get the correct info and post it rather than going for the sensational headlines. I’m watching local coverage as well as national coverage and one of the local stations will not report a number dead, besides the one at University Medical Center, because they have not received confirmation. Witnesses are saying that there were 4 dead outside the grocery store, but again, it hasn’t been confirmed. The local news is also saying that some victims were taken to Northwest Medical Center, but they won’t say anything else because they haven’t confirmed it. They even waited until just now to release the suspected shooter’s name until they could confirm it. All I’m saying is confirm the info before releasing it.
WOW are all the woman on these threads just insanely dumb and have no heart? You guys seem to love to point fingers at a time when we should be making comments about getting better and stuff like that. Me I think just like jenna in the above comment your kids should die.
I just got home from a funeral about an hour ago and now this. Jesus is soon to come. Will you be ready?
save it, please.
I am ready.
scrcktt – your religious insanity is part of the problem.
Jesus may be coming but so is Odin. Who will win in the grudge match of the century? The winner of this fight gets to face off against Shiva in the round of 16
No. I’m not a Christian, nor are a lot of us.
The Rep. is Jewish, so she’s waiting for him to come the first time.
A Bush judge was shot and killed…if some of you know it alls know why he was killed plz explain.
Because he was at the wrong place at the wrong time, and the shooter was spraying bullets around?
Wanna explain why a 9 year old girl died?
It’s very likely he was just collateral damage, Steve, the shooter didn’t know he would be there. Or the nine-year-old child.
I got a text message from ABC News saying the congresswoman had died. The source was in law enforcement, they say. So they rushed to the sensational headline.
Bet Boehner won’t shed a tear now.
Yes America is Beautiful… your post show an ugly soul…
You are probably wrong about that. Emotional people respond emotionally to tragedy and political affiliation has little to do with that.
When will the hate-filled, violence-promoting far-right wing nuts learn that their words have consequences? I’m talking about you, Sharron Angle. Shame on you.
And this post is not hate filled…. read it again …. your wrote it in an emotional state… you immeadiately blame the people you don’t like …. even if you don’t really know what happened.
Bill you obviously didn’t pay attention to what Sharron Angle said last year did you.
Beck calls for the nut bags to run into the streets and take your country back. If your a nut job and that’s all you hear, then you will act on what you feel is the RIGHT thing to do, so who’s responsible? Palin, rush, hannity, and the tea party have sold everyone up the river. Look at michell bauckman she is now head of the finance committee, and one of her biggest campaign contributors were the banking giants who donated over 10 million dollars to her campaign. Look it up!! The new speaker of the house aka cry baby, has been backed by the bank lobbyist and payed for his million dollar hobbies like golfing. These are the people who you voted into the grand 112 congress. Yes they advocate violence, and the right voted for the same clowns who are breaking this great country and have been for 40 plus years. We are now killing our freedom to be free thinkers.
Wow … what a post … Glen Beck sure has a lor of power in this country… I think you are giving people far to much credit and free thinking seems to include fantasy … at least for you!
Ok, it’s been established that the shooter was 22 years old, his name is Jared Laughner, the Congresswoman is expected to live, having survived, and Judge John Roll has died. What we don’t know is WHY.
That being said, I think I will wait for more information to come out. This tragedy just happened, and the investigation has really only begun, so I am going wait and see.
Somehow I don’t think this is a big fat conspiracy involving the TP, muslim terrorists, Obama, a second Civil War, or any of that. I think this kid is a disturbed individual. So with that, I am going to watch and learn, and hopefully get some answers besides the ones blaming Sarah Palin, President Obama, illegal aliens, and God.
Yeesh!
Well said …. one reasonable person found!!!! At last!
It’s LOUGHNER, JARED LEE, and his Facebook, MySpace, and YouTube pages suggest that he is a Tea Party Patriot supporter who believes Obama is a “commie”, a gun owner, and a believer in forms of “mind control”. Others suggest he may have been a soldier at one point. Social media pages are disappearing and some political websites have gone offline with the release of his name.
Lord, we pray for Representative Gifford and the 11 others who were shot. Heal our nation. Forgive us our many wrongs, for we have not extended the promise of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to all who have lived among us. Bring understanding and civility back to the American table. Grant us peace and make us a land of tolerance for all people.
Amen, Bill… Most brilliant thing posted yet that I have read. Thank you for voicing what many of us feel. A concern for this people and their families first. Especially the family that has lost a child in this senseless violence.
I will wait to hear who the person or persons in custody are, and what on earth they had in mind before I make a pronouncement on exactly who’s behind this.
This sort of irresponsible reporting is out of control. From Fox to CNN and every outlet in between. This is a horrific and sad event. There are family and friends. Loved ones and children that should be thought of first before a networks ratings. Announcing rep. Giffords death without any true knowledge of what has and is actually accruing is disgusting! People should be ashamed and held responsible for their greedy actions.
To all those affected by today’s shooting my heart goes out to you. God bless
everyone at the news conference referenced UMC – University Medical Center, yet your news readers keep saying they are at Northwest Hospital. Get the facts before spewing or listen to what you are showing live.
This is to CNN. I believe your current on air reporter keeps stating that the news about Congresswoman Gifford is coming from Northwest Medical Center in Tucson. It is my understanding that the press conference just held was located at University Medical Center. It apears that CNN cannot keep its facts straight from one minute to the next. I strongly urge CNN to verify and confirm information before releasing it to the public.
Hey this is what you get when you leave the border open..
Jared Laughner…doesn’t sound Mexican to me…unless you meant the Canadian border.
My heart goes out to the families of the individuals who lost their lives today. I’m also praying for those who were injured.
big problems begining in usa
two words… TEA PARTY
I totally agree, but the blame shifting will begin almost immediately. Let us remember that this was an act of domestic terrorism by a white US citizen: Jared Laughner.
If you’re going to stereotype please use some common sense. If it’s a gang shooting in east L.A. Then it’s Mexicans. Gang shooting in Detroit then it’s Africans. College students shot = white shooter. When something blows up in a populated area it’s a muslim. Ice pick is an Italian. Can you all get on the same page at least? In my view the shooter has an 80% chance of being white. To all you people saying “get rid of guns”: what happens when the good gun owners have to turn in their firearms and the bad ones don’t? We’d all be easy targets. Maybe we as a society need to start fixing the causes for these problems. There is too much evil being pumped into society via tv, music, movies, and the internet. Nobody enforces truth anymore. You can say anything to anyone and it’s called free speech. We don’t need anymore evil in our lives anymore. The old farts had their turn and they sold us out. Stand up to racists, thugs and corrupt individuals, so maybe we can save this country.
At least Rwanda prosecuted the DJs who called for violence. It’s called INCITEMENT, and I believe it’s just as illegal here.
Just because you’re a right wing political personality – Palin, Angle, Beck, Rush, O’Reilly, et al – shouldn’t give you a pass.
Jared Lee Loughner, on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10
Pro-Life Tea Party Activists did this
I haven’t read all the comments made here. Has anyone considered the possiblilty of drug related boader wars. The crack down may have triggered this as their reply. It would be easy for them to find a drug out 20 something to carry this out. Just saying. As far as guns, every nation on the planet has them, even the ones that ban them. If someone wants to kill gun laws will not stop this type of action. On the subject of Sarha Pulin, when she was mentioned all I could see was her day saying “There ya go baby, there ya go.” Unbelievable American history is about to unfold. God help us all.
The American civil discourse, in its intended definition, has in large part disappeared; replaced with venomous language that is void of reasoning. If any good is to come from today’s evil, let us try to speak to one another as decent human begins, as Americans, who want the best for our nations.
Pro-Life Tea-Party Activists did this
There is not a bus short enough for the buffoons that think tougher gun laws would have prevented this. As if a murderer cares about any law you could create.
Now I hear a little girl was killed.WHERE are we going? And my prayers to all the families,and I too,wonder and pray that anyone who survives will have a good quality of life when all is said an done.WHAT A MESS!
The American civil discourse, in its intended definition, has in large part disappeared; replaced with venomous language that is void of reasoning. If any good is to come from today’s evil, let us try to speak to one another as decent human begins, as Americans, who want the best for our nation.
It’s a shame that they only care about this Congresswoman, when there was a 9 month old baby that died.
congratulations to all of the PALIN/TEAPARTY folk
Guns don’t kill people, bullets kill people. I say you can have all the guns you want – just no bullets. As far as all the praying goes? It’s like praying after you eat.
Give me a break! All that conspiracy talk. Nothing but a crazy illegal alien or immigrant activist did this. I’ll even allow possibility of Mexican drug cartels being involved. Its ARIZONA, with their controversial law that has been passed. Go ahead Obama, keep the borders open! Liberals are so dumb, its not even funny.
How do you live with yourself??
Jared Lee Loughner: Classitup10′s Channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10
FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS,
the hate bomb, remeber they promoted hate against muslims, now theelection is over, FOX news decided to to continue totalk their uneducated poor viewers with message that lead to this kind of hate actions. FOX needs to go out of business ot maybe simply…………………….oh what is theier names, the cowerds, glen beck, hanitty, oreily, not to mnetione the head of fox ……etc
By the way, Governor Jan Brewer just signed into law the “concealed carry” legislation; so the gunman didn’t break any Arizona laws by sneaking a weapon into a meeting. I mean, what could go wrong?
I would hope for some understanding and moderation of extreme positions. But I’m not holding my breath, unfortunately.
This is a sad occurance, but using it for political gain and attacking the 2nd Amendment is just political gain.
Let’s see what this is really all about.
Condolences to Ms. Giffords family.
Arizona law enforcement official say a gunman in the crowd shot Giffords, a 40-year-old Democrat, and a person in the crowd shot at the gunman. The Associated Press identified the gunman as Jared Laughner; authorities say the 22-year-old suspect is in custody.
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/08/20110108arizona-giffords-brk.html#ixzz1ATtqdU4C
This young man is clearly ‘demented’ and is not alone in these demonic and criminal acts! Rush ‘drug addict’ Limbraugh, Sarah Palin(we have you in our gun sites) and Glenn Beck(‘There will be blood’). Not to mention this Republican-created and supported thugs-’Tea Party’! These people are worst than “Charles Masson”, because they ‘twisted’ and infected the mind of this young man and others with their ‘hate’ and ‘violent’ rhetoric! They all should be charged, just like ‘Mason’, and sent to prison. They will assume the “L&D”-defense, Lie and Deny! They are as guilty, along with this sick guy, as sin.
I feel for the families of those who have been shot in Arizona, but I am not surprised.. When the wierd fringe, feel that they can do anything to support their own opinions, case in point the “Stomping”, of a female by a burly thug during a political rally last November.
People like this feel it is alright to insult and attack those who are / appear / believe in anything these wierd people, believe in . As a disabled veteran, I sometimes question whether it was worth it? Ask me now if I want to fight for my country and would probably say, :”LET ME GET BACK TO YOU!”
Sarah Palin had Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ name in crosshairs on a map on her website. She encouraged this murder, I think she is culpable. The Tea Party, the GOP, FOX News, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, all have blood on their hands now.
Let’s not forget what precipitates this violence; when Palin is inciting people to ‘Reload’ and Florida Tea Party Campaign officials are inciting people to use guns to ‘Take their country back’ this is the kind of garbage they mean. These shooting nuts are almost exclusively right wing extremists. It is high time the toxic ideology of the right that precipitates this kind of violence is condemned and marginalized.
As a “normal” Republican, and a county committee member, I would like to say that the Tea Party is and always has been a dangerous and ignorant extremist “party.” If you want to dislike Republicans like me for our political beliefs then so be it, I will dislike Democrats for their political beliefs. Just PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not lump your average Republican, who is usually a moderate or a mild conservative, in with these Tea Bagging idiots.
Trust me this has nothing o do with immigration and drug war both have no interested in creating politic havoc. With respect to immigrtation change for reform happens with peaceful protest. Drug cartels are already making seriouse progress by poisining our children and using American weapons to push drugs from mexico into the states and then because of our 2nd amendement they defend there drug turf in the stated with Amerrican weapons go figure.
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is out of surgery and one of her surgeons said “I’m very optimistic about her recovery.”
“She was shot one time in the head through and through,” Dr. Peter Rhee said at an afternoon news conference at University Medical Center in Tucson.
He said the congresswoman was following commands, a good sign, he said.
The first 911 call came in at 10:11 a.m. The gunman opened fire with a pistol with an extended magazine.
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/08/20110108arizona-giffords-brk.html#ixzz1ATuKMbiB
Has Fox news pronounced her dead again yet?
CNN – I can’t believe you have not covered the influence of Palin and other republicans’ rhetoric on acts like the shooting in Tuscon. Language and visuals of putting Giffords in their crosshairs inflame people on the edge, and directives like “target,” and “reload” tell these people what to do. How is she and GIfford’s opponent in the recent election not responsible???
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/01/an-assassination.html
http://gawker.com/5728545/shot-congresswoman-was-in-sarah-palins-crosshairs
CNN, report correct info from the getgo! For over an hour you reorder Rep. Giffords as dead while local affiliates reported there were conflicting reports with the hospital saying she was alive and in surgery. Being 1st to report is useless if your news is unreliable.
First to report her dead was Fox and NPR. CNN said there were reports she had died but they could,nt confirm them
Of course the blind right will deny any connection with SarahPAC.com having Rep. Gifford targeted in GUNSIGHTS…this is what happens when we allow “politicians” to build a career fueled on redneck rage.
Thank God she is alive after surgery and wondering how NPR and CNN released a report that GG was dead. Through and through gun shot wound through one side of head – wish it will not leave her with any residual deficit. Want her to return and start working for Gun control.
This is the assassin’s YouTube posting:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10
If I went to the mall and said half of what these right wing nuts say, I would be in jail. Don’t Tread On Me is going to be words that are behind this outrage and yes incitement needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This is an american problem and its backed by the GOP and the good ole boys want their country back.
This is now about accountability Teabaggers.
My prayers go out to all involved in the tragedy. Congress should use earmarks to protect elected officials when they return to their home districts..just my 2 Cents!!!!!
First of all, my thoughts and prayers to the families of the shooting today
The ONLY one who is to blame for this tragedy is the SHOOTER and ONLY the SHOOTER.
It doesn’t matter if guns are legal or not, if someone wants to shoot somebody, for whatever reason they think they have the need to do so, somehow, somewhere, they can somehow always get a gun, ot whatever other means they need to harm/hurt/wound/kill and destroy families lives.
It’s a sad world when we try to put blame on others either by politics ethnic back-ground etc.
We ALL need to learn to get along, not matter what our views are, we all have our own opinions/beliefs and should respect each others.
As I wrote above, ONLY THE SHOOTER IS RESPONSIBLE for the tragedy.
All you partisan sheep are amazing. I imagine it’s quite liberating to be such a tool.
Technically, this hideous crime was committed by an unbalanced 22 year old with a gun (are you happy now, National Rifle Association?). But there is blood all over the hands of public figures who are part of the right-wing hate-filled extreme. The list is so bloody long: Sarah Palin (“don’t retreat–reload”\”!); Sharron Angle (“let the people use their second amendment options”); Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Senator McCain….and on and on and on. Welcome to the wonderful new world of Republican/Tea Party government by intimidation, hate, and destruction.
I pray for all the victims and families affected. Jesus is coming back soon people we need to confess Jesus as Lord and repent of our sins.
Days ago Sarah Palins website contained an image with the cross hairs of a gun pointed at several democratic districts and the Congress people who control those districts as “targets.” The shooting in Arizona is no coincidence. Sarah Palin must be more responsible in the rhetoric and images she uses…this is one country and attempts to demonize those who don’t subscribe to one way of thinking is dangerous. Nazi Germany comes to mind. Don’t do it, I noticed that moments after the news broke Sarah Palin changed her web site to give condolences to Arizona and that is too late. That site may have been the thing that pushed this person into violence. Be responsible Sarah.
I am tired of the irresponsible, inaccurate reporting that is done lately by all news agencies. The rush to get the information out first is causing you all to be delivering information that is harmful and wrong. The spelling errors alone are a disgrace. One would expect CNN to be a source of unbiased and correct information. If you don’t know for sure than say you don’t know yet.
Interview with Rep. Giffords about consequences of Sarah Palin’s targeting her district with crosshairs: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/36033690#36033690
These deaths are on Fox News’ hands. Period. Deal with it.
Here’s a flashback for you:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/flashback-giffords-opponent-had-m16-shooting-event-help-remove-gabrielle-giffords-from-office.php
Notice CNN. Fox et al US media slow-walk without mentioning the GOP Teaparty Terrorist Crime Family who called for this murder.
Fox’s-CNN’s spin is “lone wolf” murderer……carefully diverting us away from GOP Teaparty Terrorists who are card carrying proud murdering Teaparty faithful owned and operated daily 24/7 by the GOP’s corporate funders. Watch how coward Obama …GOP’s houseboy will be sad as Fox and CNN steer us always around the bare act that the murderer is GOP Teaparty’;s boy-period…pround Southern Fox-GOP-Teaparty of shooting when unhappy with elections-2nd amendment style terrorist trash..
Openly gunning down Democrats with Fox cheerleading and now CNN blessings. Go Sarah Palin and Fox News GOP’s Terrorist Crime Family here and now today-Proud 2nd amendment rights from ox News and CNN;;;careully steering away from their role in support of the GOP Teaparty of Open Terror. Jujst a lone-wolf of course….now that that Fox Teaparty dreams come true. CNN in good old Georgia are careful to steer away from all these blunt facts. Congrats CNN
Listen to Fox spin this away
these blogs are just a home for feeble minded pathetic stupid fools to air their irrational uninformed emotional rants I’m sorry I made the mistake of even looking ,complete waste of time
TeaBaggers method of winning arguments. They’ve been threatening this sort of thing. Read some of the blogs they frequent! Most TeaBagger posts tend to be concealing a threat.
dk (the first in this blog) feels sorry and cant understand the violence that occurs in a country that so many look up to and want to experience, that dream of the past. Pretty much gone economy is bad, way to many unemployed, drugs, guns I guess the list could go on. But DK perhaps this guy when convicted should get stoned to death as an execution method. As for the families of the wounded and dead I truly pray, just wake up America
I am sickened of the blame on “right-wing, Christian Republicans.”
Every day people die from drug related violence in our nation and yet, there is no blame. There is no outpouring of support and prayers. There is no indignation. Until we truly care about the impoverished and the least of us, how can things really get better?
Jared Loughner…is the suspect in custody
Eleven shot in all. A nine-year-old child is dead. Five are out of surgery. Five are still in surgery. Gifford is out of surgery, shot through and through in the head (through the brain), and the doctor says he is very optimistic for her full recovery.
And another thing. This person had some issues, whether he proclaimed himself a Tea Party member or had no affiliation at all.
Years back video games were blamed for senseless killings. Other times music or movies have been targeted as the reason for slayings. Usually there is a trigger involved when the person comes unhinged…loss of a job, wife, etc.. It doesn’t take much to push someone who suffers from psychosis over the edge. It’s not like this guy went on a website and said, “that’s it!-I may be well adjusted but I think it’s time for a good old fashioned mass murder!”
It just doesn’t make sense.
Can anyone get to CNN on TV to get facts sraight? They follow up the hospital news conference with saying at that one hospital; 1 dead, 5 crtical and 5 in surgery added up to 11 victims at the hospital and thought the doctor probably didn’t count the dead person in his account of 10 beinng brought to that hospital. In my experience sometimes critical people require surgery so it is quite possible that some of the 5 critcial patients are also some of the 5 currently in surgery.
Teabaggers are terrorists. Sarah Palin has blood on her hands. Arrest them all. Dragnet time!
Tea Party is behind it, as it was last March when they attacked her office and the Niagara Falls, NY office of Rep. Louise Slaughter. The “2nd amendment solutions” have begun, sad to say
Evidently Sarah Palin had a photo of Gabrielle Giffords on her website with gun cross hairs over it which she has scrambled to take down. I guess this is what these tea bagger gun nuts meant by “2nd Amendment remedies” for those that don’t agree with their wacko anti-American views. That is fascism 101. Any surprises? These same wingnuts blew up the Oklahoma City government building. Stand up to these right wing fascist bullies and get in their face.
Here is the perpetrator’s Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001964854765
The announcer on CNN keeps saying the child that died was 9 MONTHS old; I heard the doctor say 9 YEARS old. Hope he corrects this in his coverage.
Im sure the Tea Party is behind this….or some right wing radical in close connection…they are the damn idiots running around screaming “pick up your guns and kill people to stop the health care law”, among many things. This is unreal. I hope this jerk that done this is shot himself
I AM NOT SURPRISED AT ALL. JUST KEEP ON SPREADING YOUR HATE-PROPAGANDA: RUSH LIMBAUGH AND BECK AND PALIN ETC – AND YOU WILL REAP THE FRUITS OF YOUR POISON-WORDS.
LOOKING FORWARD TO HOW FOX-NEWS, WHO IS A TRUE EXPERT IN SPREADING RIGHT-WING LIES, WILL COVERI THIS SAD EVENT. THEY WILL PROBABLY BLAME OBAMA AT THE END.
At a Sarah Palin rally before the election in ‘08, someone in her crowd of people shouted that Obama was a “terrorist” who should be KILLED. Palin paused and smiled a PLEASED smile as if it just made her day to hear it. She didn’t condemn his outcry. She smiled. This stupid, stupid woman is too young to remember the horrors assassinations in the 60’s and apparently too immoral to condemn the call for their repeat. I care not about her TV show, her ghostwritten books, or about her as a person. I am embarrassed by her followers and simply heartbroken that anyone living in this land—my country—can envision her as a leader. God bless today’s victims. God bless them.
If you listen to the news accounts of the shooter’s publicly posted pages (MySpace, YouTube, etc), he is obviously mentally ill and this shooting has nothing to do with political party affiliation. Let’s not add to the divisiveness in this country by implying there was anything more going on here than a mentally ill person who acted on his own fantasies and delusions. My prayers are with the victims and their families and friends.
Oh yeah, I bet a 60 yr old grandma did it! Such an ignorant statement. Get a clue!
I believe this Congresswoman was on the “crosshair map” that Palin set up earlier in 2010
Mine money is too.
Totally agree. I guess with the Tea Partiers and other crazies in Arizona we all need to bear arms? When are we going to change gun laws in the USA? It’s time: university shooting, hospital shootings, factory shootings, post office shootings, now this? When does it end and how? With all of us in fear?
I’ll second that, once again a gun voted…
Chalk your comment up to ignorance and plenty of it!
its obama’s fault……..
Not bloddy likely! Probably one of those crazies who blame everything on the Mexicans did it.
I don’t blame you Joe because that’s usually who the culprit is!! I just hope she & everyone else is ok & the culprit is caught & dealt with in a STIFF manner!!! So scary!!
Not all right wingers are whack jobs. I’m concerned that it is one myself but seriously not everyone who believes in liberty is crazy and violent.
The rhetoric being spewed but the far right is responsible for this-everyone from Rush-to-Boehner and everyone in between.
And you sir, are an idiot. Now GTFO.
Ain’t that the truth.
This country is getting scarier by the day with people like you in it…
Assuredly you are NOT threatening the President of the United States.
what a nutty thing to say..you should be locked up, thinking like this CAUSES crazies to vote with a gun…
I know how you feel, for the 8 years Bush was president I said the same thing.
How is that relevant? Palin targeted folks to be in elections, not to be shot. Pull your head out of your azz.
Why do I get the feeling that someone’s Alaskan reality travel show is about to be canceled?
I’ll bet the same. She was big into reloading, wasn’t she?
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I agree!
she was..
People keep saying this, does anyone even know?I suspect from some of these post many can’t read.
not a hunting accident…
Before you threaten gun owners, why don’t you clamp down on Congress first? Term limits. No retirement perks. Let’s make Congress live no better than the average US Citizen.
Please explain to me how gun laws will reduce crime. Show me facts, figures, data……proof. I can show plenty that proves gun control equals more violent crime.
The anti-gun crowd is illogical. Criminals, by their very nature, don’t obey laws.
If they ban guns then that is when everyone can start living in fear.
Right now the only ones living in fear is those of you who don’t own guns and have to rely on law enforcement that will arrive 10 or 15 minutes after the crime is committed.
I don’t understand blaming gun laws for this. The gun didn’t pull it’s own trigger and I for one don’t want only the government and criminals to have guns. Seems like theres some good history against taking guns away from law abiding citizens. If memory serves, making guns illegal was one of the last things the Nazi’s did before taking total control.
exactly!
Sarah Palin will be held accountable for this.
No more ignorant than your comment about Tea Party members being “White, black, Mexican…” Just like Ivory soap,
“99 44/100% Pure” is pretty damn white.
White “fringe” dude in his twenties. Get a clue Texas! You are clearly the problem – and your inane textbooks.
The gunman has been described as young, mid-to-late 20s, white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing.
eyewitnesses describe your grandmother as a white male in his twenties.
Wow. Just wow. You need help.
“Such an ignorant statement”?, when it was Republican Sharon Angle who was running for STATE SENATE this year that floated the idea the public would bring down an out-of-control Congress with “Second Amendment remedies.” WAKE UP!
conservatives in the pathetic state of texas are weird your governor talks about secession do it already
Since everyone was denied the right carry their weapons into the area there was no one there to defend her. This is why “gun free zones” are easy places for nuts to target. Very sad for her family. It is also sad she attracted this level of enemy through her own actions and voting record.
Why, because you dislike Sarah?
Gonna bring you down to china town fool!
I’m not advocating it, but that was the very intent of the 2nd Amendment. Read the Founding Father’s papers explaining the need for the right to keep and bear arms to prevent tyrrany.
Time to organize a Nationwide day of protest against right wing nuts spewing lies on the radio, TV, newspaper, or on the stump. Enough is enough. No more lies.
Not threatening gun owners, just believe that the ability to carry in public is asking for this kind of incident.
A Congressman did not commit this crime. How ridiculous we all sound. Are our politics really more important than the lives of the 12 people shot? Have we become that stupid in our conversations?
Saddest of all is your thinly-veiled thinking that shooting democratically elected members of congress can ever be brushed over or justified as being their fault for their voting record.
You start off bringing up the Constitutional right of the Second Amendment – and then toss the Constitution out the window. You must be one of those new fangled Constitutionalists, who only want the pieces that suit you.
Way to go Steve Lyons – you actually make stanley look intelligent.
If I had to guess, I’m pretty sure you have something to do with all of this.
re: Steve Lyons
“It is also sad she attracted this level of enemy through her own actions and voting record.”
So in other words, she had it coming because she held firm to convictions that were obviously not shared by the gunman. Could you please show a shred of human decency and not use this tragedy to try to make a (incredible feeble) political point? Pathetic.
ps – consult your dictionary before your next post; I believe you meant “enmity”
I’m surprised that you can read because you dont sound very sensible. Her voting record, no matter if we agree or disagree, does not make her deserve in any way to be shot or killed!
Steve Lyons-”It is also sad she attracted this level of enemy through her own actions and voting record.” Are you a member of Al Qaeda? That’s almost a direct quote of the rational that they used for killing 3000 innocent people. You seem to have adopted their criteria for the use of violence. I don’t understand how anyone that calls them self an American could make that statement.
So you know the assailant is and his motive?
I agree absolutely. It is obvious what they have been encouraging since prior to the election of Obama. Now we see the fruition of such hatred.
There are people who seem to get all their exercise jumping to conclusions.
Let us not forget conservative pundits who consistently use fear mongering as opposed to facts as a means to discredit the Democrats.
Very very sad news.
People think straight and be careful what you write.
No knowledge of motives, someday we will find out. But, as a very strong advocate of border security and a vocal critic of Obama on that issue and a fiscal moderate Democrat (Blue Dog). I wouldn’t rule out another reason for the shooting. We don’t know, so don’t make yourself look stupid and impy things you have no first hand knowledge of…
Regardless of your political affiliation or thoughts on gun control or anything else, this is a tragic day for America when public officials are gunned down because someone has an issue with their politics.
She is a mother and an American…..I am saying a prayer for her, for her family and for our country.
this country needs to get serious about prosecuting sedition. Sedition is the promotion of the armed overthrow of a duly elected government. Palin had a gunsight map online with this woman as one of many targets. Palin should be the first one charged with sedition because of what happenned here today. we have too many nutcases in this country on both the far left and far right. is this the kind of country we want? lets start using the laws we hae on the books already to head off these people who publicly promote violence against elected officials.
I pray the congresswoman survives and also for those who lost their lives, but this is what happens when you cover nuts like sara palin and some in the tea party. They only stand for hate and should be held accountable. CNN should stop covering nuts! All coverage is not good coverage. With all the racist and hateful comments that have been reported since Obama became President, something like this should have been expected. Sara Palin should
an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
I don’t see how you can blame Sarah Palin. If she were responsible, you would think the Sarah PAC website’s map with a rifle scope target on Gifford’s district would have been updated with “KILLED” by now.
I will not lower myself to comment on your posting. It is apparent that your thought processes are not in consonance with a caring human being. Let me just say that my prayers go out to the injured individuals and their families.
That’s about the most ignorant thing I’ve heard–totally nonsensical, irresponsible and anarchic. That same “logic” made this madness.
No, it is your gun happy country that is responsible for the shooting. This is among many shooting that happen in the USA that injury, kill and mane innocent people. Your country should get out of the 17th century and realize that gun control is needed, and don’t reply with the old stand by line the USA gives to anyone who believes in gun control.
All you guys get a mentality check, pple jst lost their family members! Get grown pple!
C’mon…that is the most ignorant statement I’ve read yet! We don’t need any more polarizing politics in this country. Wake up and smell the coffee!
You must be a ***t starter! I hope this statement is not saying Obama is the reason for the shooting. if not my bad, if so you need Jesus.
Sir that was back then we didnt have the law enforcement that we have now. Please dont live in the past. Everything revolves and evolves. A nuclear bomb does not keep us from tyranny and the 2nd amendement states nothing about advanced weapons and the danger thereoff.
The founding fathers have no clue of what is going on in this year at this time. Sir dont live in the past. Tyranny has already been surpassed our right to prevent it by the exessive sale of guns. The more guns the more tyranny. We need gun guntrol reform. Forget the founding fathers they have no clue about what is happening now use your fatherly instincts.
You are so right and I applaud you for saying what you did. My thoughts and prayers go out to all concerned, but the blame needs to be directed at those who have helped create the atmosphere in this country. You named them all correctly. People better sit back and take a good long look at this country and the so called politicians who incite otheres to act in violent ways. Can’t wait to see Sarah Palins twitter on this one.
You are absolutely correct. I am praying for all those injured including the shooter who obviously is deranged. We have yet to know a motive but the rancor among the political parties leads us to believe this shooting was politically motivated in light of the event in which it took place. I am remembering the attacks of Democrats after the health care reform act came up for a vote.
If reports are accurate and the shooter was apprehended, we should know soon what the motivation was behind this heinous act.
If more people carried guns they could have defended the victim. The stark truth is gun control only controls law abiding citizens while criminals ignore the law. Less than 1% of felonies are committed by people with concealed carry permits. You want more people like us carrying guns – not less…
I support the tea party, I think democrats and any of you who support the liberal agenda are fools but I would never suggest violence against our congress, any of you, etc. The ballot box is enough for me.
So stop the stup~d comments about fox, republicans, or tea party people being responsible for this. I don’t assume it’s an illegal everytime I hear about violence in a border state and I am interested to see who was responsible for this attack, why he/she/they did it, why there was little or no security, and what can be done to prevent this in the future. But I reiterate my initial statement – more responsible/well trained people carrying guns in this country would make us safer.
If I had been at that event, it was legal for me to carry there (not sure of the law there), I saw someone open fire and I could make a shot without hitting a bystander I would have dropped him when he changed magazines or weapons (which I’m assuming happened if the 12-50 shot witness account is accurate).
And people like you who listen to Rachel and Keith incite hatred by jumping on some bandwagon. Nobody knows anything about the shooter. Unless you’re gifted with divine provenance, remember that the one who casts the first stone is the one who will reap the consequences. And no, I’m not a Republican. I’m just someone who is SICK AND TIRED of you know-it-all political inbred idiots. On both sides of the aisle.
If you think the right is bad, then let me enlighten you … YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT ON THE LEFT!
” They are ALLOWED to carry guns” – sweetie, we’re all allowed to carry guns. As a Democrat I fully support the 2nd Amendment.
It’s not the fact we have a right to carry guns. Responsible owners register, are REQUIRED by law. A gun can find it’s way into the hands of ANYONE wanting one, legal or not. Gun “control” is not the issue nor, in all probability, would it have prevented today’s tragic events . Our prayers go out to the families of these innocent citizens
The person who did the shooting is responsible. No one else. Very liberal to alway make the responsible person a “victum” and not responsible for their actions. The responsible person will be prosectuted to the full extent of the law and should be.
Yea….it’s the “Rights” fault. Make it a typical left-wing response. Morons think that “I don’t like it – so I wanna make a law that supports me.” Like that fixes real problems. Shut up and pray for those dealing with this loss. Oooops! I said pray!! I must be a right wing nut!
@Shawn
Arizona allows you to carry concealed weapons. It doesn’t seem like it helped.
@JThomas: extremists on both sides are repugnant, but I would like to point out that the left does not talk about Second Amendment remedies.
They are also encouraged by us in the Law Enforcement community as well. I have been shot at by a criminal….so it is personal with me as much anyone. I will always encourage people to protect themselves in any way possible. We as police are not everpresent and/or perfect in our ability to protect people. People have the sole responsibility to protect themselves….police are by no means REQUIRED to protect anyone…did you know that? Did anyone forget the Liberal that took hostages with a gun and “bomb” at the Discovery Channel HQ before being killed …..not a Repu. or Tea Party member. …..there are crazies everywhere.
It may be that a republican fanatic could have done this. But lets get real, stop pointing fingers till you get facts. This has happened throughout history. Stop trying to make a witch hunt. Until you get hard, concrete facts, don’t point the finger at our opposition, the republicans, or the tea party. It may have easily been a gang that did this to terroirize the city. You don’t know.
Thank you for saying that. The extreme right-wing Tea Party people are out of control. People like Sarah Palin have targeted this woman with a bullseye over her face on ads before the November election. The right has encouraged people to carry guns to political meetings. This is insanity. All this type of hate produces is sadness and suffering, while the purveyors of hate like Beck, Hannity, Palin, BillO, and Limbaugh sit back and rake in the profits.
This is a very sad day for America.
Hey Laurie, The right is out of control and the left is out of control. The middle is out of control and guess what Laurie so are you. We’re all out of control LAURIE!!!!!!! Do you get it? Look at your own life Laurie, smell the coffee in your own kitchen honey. Take a stone a very, very big one if you can and throw it up in the air then stand under it and let it hit you on the head first then come back here and comment on who did what to who, without having any facts at all.
Are you kidding me Laurie?? Show any of us clear minded individuals where or when Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, et al have ever said carry guns and kill innocent people… Please – show us all. Your hatred for these people does not give you the right to claim they have ever endorsed violence or killing people. Your words are what is wrong with this country. We should all be praying for this woman and all who were injured. There are whack-jobs all over. Crazy people doing crazy things and always will be. It’s a shame people turn their anger into rage.
your sick
i think TEA PARTY.
If someone wants to commit murder, I hardly think they’re going to be stopped because carrying a weapon is against the law!
You sir, have no clue not even how you speak. I suggest you get off and maybe go back to england if that were your from.
Sedition has not been illegal since 1801.
Um…that’s…um…how does Texas tie to…?….and textbooks…are related because….?
Put your tinfoil hat back on. The nurses will be around soon.
Many people agree with you. You’re certainly not alone. No one has any respect for anyone anymore, least of all the Office of the President.
This is what the Palin Fan club is all about, because they’re all home schooled and caant spehl nuthin. And of course lower taxes mean mohr homscoolin for em all!
I hope what this individual is suggesting isn’t some new political trend in America! For the country is in _real_ trouble if this is the means by which the world’s so-called “greatest democracy” is going to start settling its political squabbles…
Stupid thing to say Bill. I hope you were drunk or high when you wrote that statement. If not, I feel sorry for you and your life….
well spoken
Not knowing the motivation of the killer,blame at this time cannot be placed at the Right’s feet. You are clear minded person you must remember Sharon Angle advocating Second Amendments remedies if the election did not go as her backers wanted. We just don’t need this kind of rhetoric.
Palin – “‘Don’t retreat . . . reload’
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You need to look up how the Rwandan genocide started.
amen
because of the freedome of speech I don’t think the will happen and shouldn’t. BUT these people could be more responsible for the way they promote hate like they do. Believe me, none of them will see what they are doing is wrong. It is hopeless to think they will be responsible.
AGREE!!!
you sound more ignorant than the people you are trying to make fun of
No it doesn’t. It leaves everyone with one eye. Unless you only have one to begin with.
your post is not the most sane or rational that I have ever seen. Talk about a conspiracy theroist….
It’s a little early to start blaming people. We don’t know the motivation. I’ve heard a man was arrested. But no information as to motive. We haven’t heard whether the victims were deliberately targeted.
I understand those of you who can not accept the reality of the Palin-TeaParty connection to this terrorist act, but really think about from a rational point of view, why would someone do this? A random crazy act? Or some crazy anti-govt who thought that Palin etc. were sending him a message that the system does not work so….
So the god of the teabaggers, palin, constantly spouts the “don’t retreat, reload” garbage, and talks of “second amendment remedies”, then a tea party candidate loses a close, and vitriolic election to a democrat who’s office has already been vandalized in the past by the tea party, and now the democrat ends up shot?
The only people not smart enough to realize that a teabagger did this are the ones dumb enough to support the tea party.
That is pretty dumb to blame it on one group. Wait for the facts This guys represents himself and no one else unless you can prove some kind of conspiracty.
You are right. This event immediately brings thoughts of Palin and the “baggers”. Wish you were right about both parties working for the good of the American people. That looks like an impossibility with the likes of the far right taking over the House. Everyone in the country knows the biggest problem is the economy and jobs, what do the Republicans take on first, repeal of health care that they know they have no chance of passing. What a farce. When do the big investigations start? Maybe they can out spend the 100 million that was wasted on Clinton and found nothing. It will be total gridlock. Hopefully all “baggers” will be one termers.
will anyone, ever, stop making stupid tinfoil hat “jokes?”
Jen you sweeetie might feel like a responsible peson but carrying is not going to make you more responsible when you clearly know that there are so many irresponssible people not only in this ntion but in others. As you carrty a weapon drig dealers and wakos are carrying them too so who whens on this draw. The wako killing or drug dealers or the p-eople who feel that it is ok to carry weapons for no use of teir own. think what you represent and what this represents
rebeverett
Exactly right.
Politics are more important than 12 dead people when they decide to go to War and kill 5000 soldiers, 100,000s of Iraqis and millions of uninsured and thus untreated sick people. Remember that these are policies of the right.