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Hillary's Pitch-Perfect Toast

Hillary Clinton knew that every adjective, every nuance, every aspect of her body language would be scrutinized tonight for evidence of less-than-full-throated support of Barack Obama. She didn’t betray any unhappiness -- and it was silly, actually, for anyone to expect that she might. There might be a Clinton who strays off the reservation, but it’s not Hillary. “In America, you always keep going,” she said, and that’s a fitting motto for Clinton herself. “No way, no how, no McCain,” she said -- and if there was a piece of her that doesn’t mean it, that secretly hopes she might get another shot at the presidency four years from now, it was completely hidden.

"We’ve got to get going by electing Barack Obama the next president of the United States,” she said. “We don’t have a moment to lose or a vote to spare. Nothing less than the fate of our nation and the future of our children hangs in the balance.”

Imagine how excruciating this moment must be. Clinton is like a jilted fiancee who not only has to go to her ex’s wedding -- she has to toast the new bride. With millions watching. She performed, I thought, without a hitch.

In fact, the most interesting part of the performance wasn’t her enthusiastic praise for Barack Obama, for Joe Biden, for Michelle Obama -- but her glancing reference to the last Democratic president. He just happens to be her husband, but you wouldn’t exactly have known that from the speech, which contained precisely one rather chilly reference to “President Clinton.” She defined herself as "a proud mother. A proud Democrat. A proud American. And a proud supporter of Barack Obama." Proud wife?

People who know have told me that the reason the Clintons are occupying two nights of the convention is that Hillary Clinton did not want to share the stage tonight with her husband, that she wanted an evening of her own. They weren’t kidding.

By Ruth Marcus  | August 26, 2008; 11:50 PM ET
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WHAT A SPEECH ... GOD BLESS YOU, HILLARY ... !!! ... I am so sorry we failed you. We should had worked harder for you - we should had worked smarter for you. Now we must accept Obama (the modern JFK) as our Commander-In-Chief, tutored by Biden (his personal Dick Cheney) ... then again, perhaps not ...

Posted by: Louie | August 27, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Tonight Hillary should us a warrior woman
of class, intellegence, loyalty, belief in
herself and the people of this great country and the surrender of the personal
for the good of the people. I love her and
want to see more of her She has poise,
integrity and compassion.

Posted by: Alice Ropchan | August 27, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

This post almost makes up for your shameful performance as a so-called liberal on The Newshour two Fridays ago.

I said almost.

Get out of the Beltway echo chamber once in a while, Ms. Marcus. It'll help to get back in touch with your brain.

Posted by: PBS Watcher | August 27, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Great speech. This women should be the Senate majority leader!

Time to kick some Republican Butt!
Bush/Cheney/McCain! NO MORE YEARS!!

Posted by: thebob.bob | August 27, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Great speech from a great woman. Values first. Let's fight against negative ads for our kids future.

Posted by: Olivier | August 27, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Tonight we saw why the world doesn't need another Clinton. What a farce.

Posted by: Hank | August 27, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Hillary gave a magnificent speech. Your analogy was perfect: the jilted fiancee forced to attend the wedding and give a toast to the bride.

Posted by: RLamb | August 27, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Commodity futures, missing billing records, u.s. pardons, puerto rico terrorist pardons, bombs over bosnia deals for her brothers, travelgate, bribing rabbis in NY.

Yes, she is just your All American girl.

Posted by: ted kensington. | August 27, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Thank you Hillary Clinton! What an amazing speech, I am beginning to understand the loyalty of Clinton supporters. As an Obama supporter I did not know what to expect tonight. Let the Democratic party now unite and fight for the change that this country deperately needs.

Posted by: Joe | August 27, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Oh, come on. Remember Hillary dissembling about ducking sniper fire in Bosnia?

Her speech was OK, but entirely self-referential. She acts like she invented the idea of universal health care, when it has been Ted Kennedy's isue forever. He introduced legislation for it in 1969 and Dick Nixon got in its way.

Hillary has spent most of her life travelling and living high on the taxpayer dime.

Remember that she represented WalMart and sat on its board, the company that profits from slave labor, child labor and Tibetan prison labor, the company that broke labor laws in union-busting and discrimination.

Nah, Hillary is a closet Republican. She grew up in a rich Republican suburb and was a Goldwater girl. No way, no how, no Hillary.

Posted by: Erica Greene | August 27, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

I give Hillary an A+ tonight, and as an Obama supporter I would have been a harsh critic if her speech had felt half hearted.
So thank you Hillary, the country needs all of us stopping Bush's third term.
I'm a Minneapolis native and the Twin Cities joke was a riot.

Posted by: mark | August 27, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

It was hard for Hilary. I would have voted for her. But I also am happy to vote for Barak. Women are not more urgent than minorities, and I am tremendously bouyed by the thought that our next president will be an African-A--and one who is levels above the current ignoramus who was elected last time. Let's acknowledge that minority needs are at least as urgent as other middle class needs.

J Para

Posted by: j. para | August 27, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

I watched Hillary's speech and I still don't understand how she lost the nomination. She was pure gold tonight. She did a truly masterful job of being gracious in defeat; I've never seen it done any better. Fresh on the heels of the Olympics, that's a perfect score in my books.

Posted by: Bruce | August 27, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse


Hillary, I am PROUD to have supported you and tonight I think the nation saw why. You showed such grace and generosity towards people that I don't feel deserve it that I am struggling to heed your call to support Barack Obama. What a foolish, foolish man he is not to have picked you for VP. It would have been a LOCK with you on the ticket!

Posted by: MJ | August 27, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

She gave a great speech and she meant every word. I have traveled this heartbreaking road with her every mile and every dollar. It was not meant to be. But she continues to make me proud and I will always support her. "Was I in it for her....?" Perfect question. As a Registered Nurse for over 40 years, a montage of all my patients from various clinical specialties floated by in my mind. They were the original reason I signed up with Hillary many, many years ago, her work for Childrens' Health, for Universal Health Care, for Veterans Health care, for the elderly, and the reason I will always love her and believe in her. So, I decided tonight to cast my vote for Senator Obama because she believes we can accomplish our work through him and with him and she will be available for him if he has the good sense to call on her!
I am proud of her----again!!

Posted by: TJ | August 27, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Ms Marcus, again you are hung up on the wife thing....her professional life is separate from that of her husband. I should think professional journalists should be able to separate the two. She is beloved for who she is and what she has accomplished throughout her life and what she represents to us. It is not necessary for her to reaffirm her relationship with her husband at her speech to the convention. That, my dear, is none of our business and does not affect her capacity to lead and to inspire and to accomplish.

Posted by: TJ | August 27, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

This was the best speech that I have heard Hillary make. I was a little concerned at first because there was a lot of “look at what I did and accomplished’ which she does have a right to do. Let’s face it; she gave Obama a good run for the nomination.

But as she developed the speech, her theme evolved and drove it home hard and articulately. No way, No how, No Mc Cain!”

Hillary made sure that she addressed her die hard delegates directly and walked them through their decision. A protest vote for Mc Cain would negate all of the work that they did for Hillary and subject themselves and the country to 4 to possibly 8 more years of the political morass we are in now.

I did not know what to expect….and it seemed at times when the camera flashed on her….neither did Michele Obama :-) Hillary did a great job of attempting to deliver her delegates to Obama…unify the party...hit Mc Cain...and of course ..lay the foundation for another presidential run! :-)

Your comment and thoughts?

Posted by: Joe Robinson III | August 27, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

WOW What a Speech. Sad that we are forced to wait until 2012 to make HRC our President. I am a democrat. I will not vote for McCain but I will write in my vote for Hillary.

Stay Golden Hillary.

Posted by: raoul | August 27, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Hillary supporters: don't let Hillary down at this point. We must support McCain if there is to be any chance of having a woman/Hillary president. As simple as that. Don't buy into this party unity crap. Look at garbage like Ted Kennedy. How come he got away with basically coming to the convention, challenging and insulting the sitting Democratic President and imploring his supporters to ditch him. Today he is a netroots darling. That hypocritical bunch of bloggers make me puke blood and gore. What is this if not misogyny? 18 million votes isn't enough to get you a position on the ticket? I hate my party now. SAY NO TO THE PARTY UNITY SHAM.

Posted by: To all Hillary supporters | August 27, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

It was the best that I have seen, and well suited for the situation. A fact that she stated numerous times, the campaign she and Obama were engaged in was historic. For that reason alone, she earned a place and roll in the convention. It appears she has reconciled herself to the fact that this process is more than about her or Obama, this is the plus for the evening. I suspect Bill Clinton will echo and expand on her vision. Cynics will be as they are, if ever she was she has now passed this stage; politics nor politicians are no better nor worst than any calling.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Hillary made it loud and clear, and with plenty of class, what any self-respecting Democrat needs to do. The notion, as "To all Hillary supporters" suggests, that we should vote McCain, is not only ludicrous, but suggests that tonight's Hillary--who was golden and gracious--is nothing but a fraud. Hillary's clear as the ring of the Liberty Bell what needs to be done; a vote for McCain will disgrace nearly every value which she has stood for throughout her career. She couldn't have said it more clearly. Bravo, Hillary

Posted by: Peter | August 27, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

I am disgusted. Looking at these post do Obama supporters wonder why so many democrats can not yet support him? Hillary gave the best possible speech she could have given, embraced democratic ideals, gave all the reasons why Obama should be elected. Yet Obama supporters are still spewing vitriol. Democrats who are not yet able to vote for Obama are not ready because he is not ready, and not because they are Hillary supporters. Nastiness and vitriol will not earn Obama any votes so it is time for his supporters to get out of the schoolyard, grow up, and stop the bullying. Intelligent people need more than hope and dreams. Obama needs to lead his supporters into adulthood. If he can't do that he can't lead the country.

Posted by: Lizfi | August 27, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Three cheers for Hillary!!! She has shown class and courage in the face of a contemptible gender biased campaign directed at her by many factions. Entities with a single purpose; to derail her run for the presidency. They succeeded.
Ever the good trooper, she came through gracefully and concilitory for Obama and I hope we hear no more offensive language from the hate filled Democratic left wingers and Obama's whining followers.
Now a message to the media: Shut up! Quit picking apart every word, every look, every gesture and give this woman the credit due her for intelligence, stamina and courage to carry on a presidential campaign in the face of obscene name calling, personal insults, lies and unwarranted criticism by a low class gaggle of talking heads and scribblers. It will be a long time, if ever, that I forget the denigrating campaign waged against her by the factions mentioned above because she was a woman who dared to run for high office.
Will I vote for Obama? Not likely, but I would never vote Republican so I'll pass on this one and I've been voting since 1954.

Posted by: Harriett Heisey | August 27, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed her slight of Bill. She might have added "proud former First Lady" but nobody is perfect. I've always maintained she is smarter than our ex-president and the position she took today clearly gives her a platform from which to make a lot of noise in the future. Kudos to Hillary.

Posted by: Ed Perlicz | August 27, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

Nobody else could have done it better. For her followers that know she is golden, we all saw the gold shine tonight. She is able to give our nation confidence and security. Now the Democrats place their burden on her to pull Barry Obama up to the big time. By Jove I believe she has done it.
She has traveled many mile to make speeches for him. The others, ( Biden included) Richardson,kerry, Dodd, and all the rest are not on the trail, are invisable in the trenches.
The historians will reveal the shenanigans at the Marriott wardman that handed Barry the nomination by giving him delegates because they were able to read the minds of the voters in Michigan. They will also acknowledge how the party turned their backs on 18 million voters. The Winner of the primaries is not on the ticket. Unbelievable! The “new Democrats DO resemble the old Republicans. Dean (NH) is the leader of the bandits. Thanks for patting the lady on the head and using her to “save” this election for the Democrats. The over 40 “(old(Democrats)"group remember the good times of a Democratic Presidency and will bring the game ball home.

Posted by: Elephant | August 27, 2008 1:46 AM | Report abuse

As a Republican, I thought Hillary had what it takes to be President and was prepared to switch parties and vote for her. I thought Obama was a fool not choosing her for VP, it would have sealed it up for him. All he talks about is "Change". So his First Big Decision "To change things up" is to pick "Biden" - how on earth is that Change? Biden was in the Senate when I was a kid. Although I didn't agree with everything Hillary said tonight, I thought she gave a great speech - seemed more Presidential to me than Obama. Not sure if anyone else noticed this, but they kept showing Michelle Obama, only timed she cracked a smile was when Hillary said she'd made a good first lady, hmmm - looked like sour grapes.. Hillary was at least a good sport through all this, a lot of us were secretly hoping she'd get up there and tell them to kiss her behind.

Posted by: SP | August 27, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

Her speech showed why she should have been the candidate for President rather than Barack Obama.

Posted by: Victoria Francis | August 27, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

Hillary rocks - best speech by any losing candidate ever for a winning party nominee. Over the next 69 days Hillary will campaign and inspire millions of females, Hispanics and moderates in both parties to elect Obama, and help increase the democratic margin in both the house and senate. Then she we tackle health care reform in the senate with full support of the new increased Democratic majority. Hillary will help lead the senate to help Obama achieve real change in Washington without republican filibusters. Just watch, history is being made and Obama and Hillary will lead it in both branches of government. McCain simply has no chance of beating Obama, with Biden and Hillary on the campaign trail, not to mention Bill. Who will help McCain on the stump, Bush? McCain better get Collin Powell or a female to be V.P. to even have a chance. Republicans had their chance over the last 8 years and they blew it big time. 4 years of Bush + 4 years of Bush equals 8 years of White House incompetence with a president to failed to inspire and connect with the American public. Democrat or Republican, we are all worse off now 8 years later. Change for the better is coming in 69 days for Americans here and abroad. Finally!

Posted by: edabel | August 27, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Marcus, I cannot believe you followed the Republican talking points. Why on earth did you think a prould wifey fit into her elegant speech? Should she have said a proud Methodist? A proud Senator? A proud Attorney? etc.

Posted by: Jason | August 27, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse

She should have apologized for running a negative campaign and she should have slammed McCain for using her in his ads.

Posted by: Bill | August 27, 2008 2:27 AM | Report abuse

I hate to say this, but I don't consider Senator Clinton to be someone who was forced to be at the convention. Didn't she demand to be there and speak? Because I don't see Kusinich speaking, nor Edwards or other former presidential candidates. I just need that to be cleared up.

Posted by: GC4Life | August 27, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

How many passionate Obama supporters would be happy and vote for Hillary if Obama lost to her? Democrats for Obama put the shoe on the other foot. Many have been waiting for a female, just like many have been waiting for a African american to become president. Stop fighting against other Democrats, Obama and Hillary will need every democrat's support when history is made and Obama is elected, to both reform health care and fix America as a result of being Bush whacked with help from Darth Vader - Chaney - over the last 8 years.

Posted by: edabel | August 27, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

I am so sick of hearing the vitriol from Obama supporters. Get over it. He won (the primary that is).
I certainly won't be a part of his further ascension.


Posted by: OBAMANITES are idiots | August 27, 2008 2:46 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone else notice this: In the film clip before Hillary's speech, the one about her life, narrated by Chelsea, there was a picture of Obama standing next to John Edwards on a stage, with some other candidates. This was a well edited and well crafted film montage. This was not a mistake. So I can say with certainty now that tonight we heard Hillary's first campaign speech for Hillary 2012. And you know what? I will vote for her!

Posted by: thecandypoem | August 27, 2008 2:55 AM | Report abuse

At the end of the speech in an interview a woman questioned Obama's experience. Here is my reply.

Does experience count when it comes to job of being president?
Not really, because our government is made up of a system of checks and balances, which makes the power of the President very limited.

First of all, the president can make very few decisions pertaining to the country without the support of the house and senate. Secondly, the president has a multitude of very experienced advisors who provide information and opinions on each situation presented. No President operates without the counsel of the most knowledgeable advisors in the country.

In addition, the job of President is more one of appearance, representation, and leadership than it is decision maker. The President must be someone who is respectable, and pragmatic. The President must also be someone who represents the ideas and beliefs of the country, and above all else the President must be viewed as a strong and vibrant leader by the world.

America needs someone who can come up with a new idea and then set the wheels in motion to develop that idea. We need someone who has the intelligence and vitality to look toward the future and see change. Not someone so old and outdated that they believe in that "if it ain't broke don't fix it" ideology.

America needs someone who can relate to the working class citizen, and is willing to stand up to the wealth mongers and say give up one or two of your houses, so that the backbone of America can afford to have at least one. We need someone who will put down their fist and say the rich are rich enough, now let's help the little guy. We need someone who will stop allowing businesses to find it more profitable to sell our jobs to overseas markets. America needs someone who will support change and not resist it.

McCain may have more so called experience, but his ways are what has put this country in the rich getting richer while the poor get poorer state that it is in. Not to mention that he is of the age that would rather leave things as they are because it is easier for them to understand.

Obama has displayed the courage to stand up for his belief in a country where any person can succeed if they are willing to work at it. This is the kind of leadership we need in our President.

Television stations and Newspaper owners are wealthy people. They control most of what we see and hear about the politics in this country. While they may pretend to be impartial when they report on the candidates, do you really believe they would be fair to someone who might take a few dollars out of their pockets? TV and Newspaper Ads are not to be believed. Commentators are not credible either as they report what they are told to report. Listen to the candidates, and make your decision on what you hear from them.

If you are not happy with the way things are in this country, you must vote for Obama! McCain will not support change, because old people always resist change. That is not meant to be mean, it is the simple truth.

Posted by: Kathy Libbey | August 27, 2008 3:56 AM | Report abuse

What a class act. Tonight Hillary proved once and for all that she is a stateswoman of unprescidented quality. I understand the difficulties in having her as a running mate for Obama, but still . . . what unbeatable team that would have made. She deserves to hold the highest possible office in the new administration. She is clearly a force to be reckond with.

Posted by: Sam Spade | August 27, 2008 4:12 AM | Report abuse

The Obama supporters who continue to bash Hillary, can blame themselves when the Hillary supporters continue to stay away.

Posted by: Tom Yates | August 27, 2008 5:24 AM | Report abuse

Obama supporters bashing Hillary? I'm positive if Hillary were nominee she'd be getting 95 percent plus of Obama's supporters (maybe Nader would get a few). Most anti-Hillary bloggers and posters are the same far-right individuals sowing division by claiming to be victimized Hillary supporters. Don't fall for it, that is unless you want an America in which our president wants to ban unions, end social security, suck middle-class money upwards for the wealthiest few to share, end the right to choose, engage in tactical nuclear strikes, bring back the draft, and bring back the Cold War.

Posted by: stan | August 27, 2008 6:02 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing how many Americans are so oblivious that they can be easily fooled by style over substance. I'm not just referring to Hillary - I'm referring to the lion's share of American politicians who know that we'll be licking their toes if all they do is say the right words.

Words, only. Then they can take whatever action they like!

Posted by: Betty | August 27, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

She was fabulous and inspiring. She talked about us and what we need as a country, not about herself like Michelle Obama. Now it's time for Obama to finally come through with some substance. No more "hope" "yes, we can" or the "we are the people we've been waiting for" fluff. I just hope he was really listening and learns something from her. He needs to tell us how his administration will different from McCain's would.

Posted by: Morag | August 27, 2008 6:15 AM | Report abuse

Watching Hillary's performance one had to hand it to her for flawless craftsmanship, but was there sincerity? I think not, and to the discerning it showed.

If she can recognize that most of the problems that the Democrats/Obama are now experiencing in a race that ought to have had them in clear lead over the Repubs and the Bush agenda that have left the US in no uncertain chaos, are because she stayed too long in a race in which Obama had emerged the winner. Her very doggedness is her weakness, and she seems relucatant to fully release her supporters and emancipate them for recognizing the larger issues at sake in this election.

Posted by: mahnel | August 27, 2008 6:32 AM | Report abuse

Thank you Hillary Clinton! Wow--- what a speech, one of the best. As an Obama supporter I spent much of the campaign season angry at Clinton; it was a nasty campaign and the media fed the nastiness. Seeing Clinton on the stage tonight as a team player, well, I'm glad she's on our team!! What a powerful woman. I feel hopeful again.

Posted by: mel | August 27, 2008 7:11 AM | Report abuse

"'No way, no how, no McCain,' she said -- "

When she was still pursuing the nomination she declared that, McCain was, unlike Obama, ready to be President. Was she lying then or is she lying now?

"... and if there was a piece of her that doesn’t mean it, that secretly hopes she might get another shot at the presidency four years from now, it was completely hidden..."

This is just as one expects from an accomplished liar. If he never does anything else, Obama has already performed a heroic service to the nation by standing between this woman and the Whitehouse.

Posted by: Craig Busse | August 27, 2008 7:15 AM | Report abuse

And yet, so many after the speech were left with lingering doubts. . .was she REALLY sincere?. . .how could this woman be beaten by THAT man?. . .and so forth. I cannot remember a time when the party was so divided over what amounts to personality. The idea that anyone who so completely bought the Clinton message could use the word "hate" to describe their feelings about Obama leaves me literally gasping. How is it even CREDIBLE that anyone could think it is possible for there to be a worse president than George W. Bush?! Hillary's experience may have brought her closer to international affairs for 8 years than Obama has been, but throughout the campaign, it was always clear to me that Obama had just as much knowledge and ability as Clinton. What else could she have done to convince people that she means it? I don't know. Perhaps it will take Bill to finally put Obama over. If he can get up and say "Obama is good. He MUST be good because he beat my wife fair and square! Anyone good enough to do that, is good enough to be President." Something like that MIGHT bring the clintonistas on board--but they are not there yet.

Posted by: dch | August 27, 2008 7:33 AM | Report abuse

We need to congratulate Hillary for her gracious, well-crafted, forceful and sometimes funny speech last night! I am a passionate Obama supporter - because of his obvious intelligence, his demonstrated even-keeled temperament, and his unique ability to inspire which is required in a leader. He has a "bottom-up" philosophy - that change must come from us - the people who are governed - and not from the top-down. It's a completely different mindset and one that Democrats everywhere should embrace. It really is about us and the choices we need to make as the governed. Please think about this logically - and don't be tricked by your own emotional investment. Be proud to be a Democrat and let's change this nation's course by voting Democrats into every office - before it's too late!

Posted by: FMA in Mass | August 27, 2008 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Nice job, Hillary but there is no way I am supporting obama, not voting for someone who has 3 years experience. Also believe he will tax us to death.

Will most likely not vote at all. However if the press goes to over the top in its campaign for Obama, might have to vote for McCain

Posted by: Dem52 | August 27, 2008 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Oh, come off it, Ms. Marcus. There was absolutely nothing "chilly" about Hillary Clinton's reference to the record of her husband's administration. Enough psycho-babble and efforts to intrude into areas which even talking heads no nothing. Gene Beck, a rather nasty idiot, kept saying on CNN yesterday that the real reason Hillary didn't get the VP nod was that she's a "tough woman" and Michelle Obama is a "tough woman" and tough women won't have anything to do with each other. Here's some more psycho-babble with more than a bit of sexism thrown in.

Posted by: orray | August 27, 2008 7:36 AM | Report abuse


FYI. Kucinich spoke yesterday and rocked the house from reports of those there. Edwards declined being present given his recent "challenges."

I didn't hear the reference to President Clinton as chilly at all. She was talking about the accomplishments of an administration and it would have seemed awkward to have stressed they came from her husband at that point. If the media would remind themselves that the woman astually has successes and a professional life of her own, perhaps they could quit expecting her to act and think of herself only as Bill's wife.

Posted by: Jeffrey | August 27, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

One of the truly great speeches in the history of Democratic party nominating conventions. Catharsis for her supporters while placing them solidly behind Obama.

To the pathetic PUMAs, who think they will vote for McCain, in some kind of snit fit, I have news for you: the Republican party, and John McCain in particular, are poised to cement those 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling and cover them with boiler plate.

One or two more SC justices and kiss goodbye to the freedom to control your very own body and equal pay for equal work.
What will you tell your daughters and granddaughters about how you voted in 2008?

Posted by: LeftGuy | August 27, 2008 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Whether we think Hillary was sincere or not the real issue is to unite & vote to stop the madness of failed Repulican policies the last 8 years in this country. We do need new ideas and a Congress that is open to working with Obama to achieve that change for all Americans. Hillary can and I believe will be helpful in making that happen. Let's stay focused on the real issue here, get these guys out of town and keep McCain from moving in the White house. Four more months NOT four more years!!!

Posted by: Hugh | August 27, 2008 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Hillary did the right thing for America -- no more failed Republican presidential agendas. The right will keep pushing tax breaks for the rich (like McCain's wife) and offshoring corporations. Obama and Hillary are both so close on their presidential agendas -- get rid of the tax breaks for the ultrarich, rebuild the infrastructure, invest in American businesses (esp. low emission cars and power production), and fight for minority and women's rights. It's going to be a great 1-2 punch in the Whitehouse and Senate. I'd vote for either Hillary or Obama to keep McCain out and the US looking to a brighter future.

Posted by: JIM | August 27, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Excellent speech Hillary.
I changed residence to Virginia and I am still voting for McCain just because of the way the DNC, media, Black people, and weak women treated you Hillary.
You deserve better than being a frickin cheerleader, you are head and shoulders above Obama.
And just in case anyone is wondering I am a Black American male.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 8:37 AM | Report abuse

If Hilary supporters jump to McCain, what are you supporting? 3 more neoconservative Supreme Court Justices? War in Iran? War in Russia and the Baltics? Pandering to the religious right?

WAKE UP!! This is bigger than the dream of a woman president. This is about whether your kids will go to college, or go to war. You may not think Obama is qualified, but Hilary will still be working hard for her agenda. If you think McCain is going to sign her laws, think again.


Posted by: mdl | August 27, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

How many true democrats came out of that convention hall last night with buyers remorse? How many true democrats went to bed teary eyed thinking about the missed opportunity to elect probably one of the greatest leaders we have had in modern times? Hillary proved that she is a true leader,true fighter for our cause and the most gracious opponent ever in any primary.Obama and fans including shameless media can keep calling her names,diss her,blame her for his inevitable defeat,but she has placed herself in Americas history books and the chapter is not closed yet.

Posted by: SS | August 27, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

The 'jilted fiancee' blurb was a juvenile analogy and seems inappropriate for political commentary but I do agree Senator Clinton's speech was par excellence. She did the right thing; now her supporters, if they are in fact in this race for something greater than her, should move forward and support the elected Dem nominee. If they weren't in this for something greater - then they should go ahead, show themselves to be true idiots, and vote for John McCain. They (and and their offspring) will have to deal with that type of faulty logic/decisionmaking -but McCain will not win this race in November.

Regardless, when all is said and done, Hillary Clinton has regained my respect as a true contender and has (at last) brought a respectable close to her campaign. I raise my glass to her.

Posted by: Proud Mary | August 27, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

To some Republicans the Clinton's are always the worst people in the world, bring out the fake scandals that were funded by millions of tax dollars and found no crime against them, as to a post claiming pardons for Puerto Ricans terrorist, how about both Bushes Sr and jr,George H Bush pardon and allowed in this country Luis Posada a Cuban that blew up a plane full of innocent people flying from Venezuela to Cuba, but if you are anti communist that is not terrorism, it is call freedom fighting, How about the Cubans that shot a missile at cruise ship in the port of Miami? Jeb Bush wrote his daddy to pardon him, How about Cubans from Miami placing bombs in Havana hotel rooms and killing tourist? Same deal.

And watch as Jr will pardon scooter Libby for outing a CIA agent, because her husband dare to say that the Bush administration was lying to the American Public.

Look at the way the country is now and the way Bush found it in 2000 and it is a disgrace that Bush is still at 29 percent approval, those people must be beyond stupid.

I wish Hillary all the best and she would have been a great President.

Posted by: corintonic | August 27, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

The ideal ticket would have been Clinton/Obama. With this ticket the Democrats could have seized the White House for the next 16 years.

Posted by: Bob Field Toronto | August 27, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

I love you Hill!!!!

You were the most qualified candidate this time around. No doubt about that.

Posted by: Club44 ~ ite | August 27, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Perfect score for Hillary.

Loved the Twin Cities joke.

Posted by: Hillaryland resident | August 27, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, it was a good speech considering she didn't mean a word of it.

People who are forever forgiving the Clintons for their duplicity mystify me. And then there are those whose moral compass is so skewed that they wallow in and celebrate the Clintons' duplicity.

Hillary got beat fair and square and she still thinks she should be the nominee. Her reference to getting beat by a "boy" for student council president in high school was illustrative. She's been using her gender as a convenient excuse for failure since she was a teenager. She's been motivated by resentments for a very long time and it's never going to stop.

"The boys did it to me!! WAAAAAAAHHHH!!"

Posted by: theduke | August 27, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

You can always tell who are the McCain shills... they'll be the ones who spew nonsense. Whether its the discredited lies that have been circulated forever re: Obama and now this divisive "Hillary is your leader" crap.

To any supposed "Hillary supporter" who refuses to vote for Obama, you are just a McCain shill. He opposes every issue important to women and has vowed to overturn Roe v. Wade. I personally think all of you are lying pieces of crap who are just closet Republicans but, to the few have have sincerely been duped, if vengeance worth your civil rights? Is it worth pay inequality?

To the rest of the McCain shills, I want everyone to know that McCain has requested that his supporters spam message boards and forums with pre-determined (false) talking points. You will not see any reasoned arguments re: McCain because they don't exist. The Republican presidencies have been failures. Period. Especially this one. McCain shills are here strictly to foment dissent and fear. Ignore them because they have no credibility.

Posted by: James King | August 27, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Hillary -- devoid of ideas, character or values.. Hillary the horrible..

God what horrors we will face if that Racist Obama gets elected.

Posted by: NH | August 27, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Senator Hillary Clinton was fantastic. What a great role model! Still the best candidate for President. Experience matters.

Posted by: mmarii | August 27, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Hillary -- devoid of ideas, character or values.. Hillary the horrible..

God what horrors we will face if that Racist Obama gets elected.

Posted by: NH | August 27, 2008 9:42 AM
I strongly disgree with your comment-the first part.
However,I agree with second part.
Good try paid Obamabot!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Democrats rumble against Republican Attack Machine! But unlike McCain's team also present a positive message!

Last night was Hillary's moment! Yes we heard her rally cry for Obama, herself and all of us Democrats, Republicans and Independents against a 3rd Bush term. Bill will come through tonight too. A lot is at stake here not just for Obama but for Biden, Hillary, Bill and all of us too. Biden's rally cry will be equally compelling! The scrappy kid from Scranton will come through too. This convention will be remember as the one that represented us in our Time. Now it will be up to Obama in front of 75,000 supporters and millions of voters watching on TV to make the sale after traveling across America for the past year and half listening to the concerns of the voters. The energy will be electric in that stadium. The pundits and writers will feel it. We too will feel it just watching on TV. This will become America's moment.

“Few will have the greatness to bend history itself; but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total; of all those acts will be written the history of this generation.”
Robert Kennedy

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Cooday | August 27, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I voted for Hillary. I listened to her speech last night. And I will NOT vote for Obama. Obama does NOT deserve my vote.

Posted by: JWG | August 27, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I thought the most powerful line of the night was when Hillary asked her supporters if they were just supporting her as opposed to the Americans in trouble she sited earlier in the speech.
To those Hillary supporters considering a vote for McCain, I would ask you to do a web search for "Why is Chelsea so ugly?'. Are these really the people who you want to link up with? What kind of attack ads do you think McCain and the Republicans would be throwing at her had she won the nomination? You really think giving them four more years would pave the way for Hillary in 2012? We gave Bush eight when he was an obvious failure.
I supported Hillary up until she conceded and I now support Obama because he is our best hope to throw off this Republican nightmare we have had to endure. I don't understand how some Hillary supporters can take this path. McCain is not your man.

Posted by: David in Richmond | August 27, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats are making a huge mistake in _selecting_ Obama over Hillary. It's so obvious.

Posted by: JoeM | August 27, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I can't stand Hillary but her speech last night was brilliant. To those who are wondering why she didn't get the nomination, it's pretty simple--we are fed up with having our foreign policy set by oil companies and our domestic policy set by Wall Street banks. Hillary (during the primary) offered no willingness to take the corporate overlords down a notch. Sure, last night she was free to cut loose a bit, and go to the left a bit, but she never staked anything on it when she had the chance.

Posted by: Dave | August 27, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely superb, inspirational, spirited, passionate, fluent, charming speech for all women and men too. Such class, grace, elegance - and pretty good to look at for a 60's woman in her prime. This is her finest since she stepped into the public arena. She has grown so much last 18 months from a good speech maker, a bit uncomfortable at times, rapidly into a powerful orator that connects personally with her audiance, first in small town hall meetings, then dazzled in big crowds, especially in last few primary weeks. And now, what a SHOW: perfect testament to the theme that don't give up, just march on to be your very best. Yes you can and you will. BRAVO. Yes, very disappointed that she wasn't giving the "winner speech", but SHE should march on and continue to dazzle to inspire all of us. THANK YOU>

Posted by: Cook | August 27, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I was moved. And that was the point, wasn't it? Back in the early days of the space race John Glenn reminded us that when we lose out we are compelled to be forthright and magnanimous. Otherwise we're just selfish little children. Senator Clinton showed the world she is not a child.

Is there disappointment that she is not going to be the nominee? You bet. 18 million American citizens wanted her to be the nominee. But it didn't happen. And the only one to blame is US. Holding our vote, or voting for four more years, is self flagellation. Nothing more.

All of the negative views presented here and in the media about the Clintons are simply the expressions of those who put now ahead of the future. These folks don't give a rodent's backside about the children of this nation or the children to come. If they did they'd line up and vote the ticket.

Senator Clinton asked the one true question of this campaign - are you voting for a person or a principle. Principled voters are putting country ahead of self. And that is the American way.

Should Senator Obama lose in November it won't be because of Senator Clinton. It will be because of us. Look in the mirror and ask yourself - am I really so mean spirited that I'll saddle the country with four more years just because I feel slighted?

Will we some day have a women president? You bet. Will it be Senator Clinton? No one knows. But what we do know is that Senator Clinton made the possibility for women that much closer. In that alone she is owed a debt of gratitude.

Posted by: imt | August 27, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Hillary diehards WAKE UP! If you vote for McCain or write in Hillary or stay home you are part of the problem! Do you really want 4 or 8 more years of these ruinous policies?

I voted for Hillary in the primary but now I MUST vote for Obama - their policies are nearly identical and we desperately need every vote to put a Democrat back in the White House - yesterday!

Posted by: Amy C | August 27, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I have no personal beef w/ Hillary, other than being a little creeped-out over the megalomania. What continues to mystify me is that so many consider her a viable candidate in a national election when she has been so publicly vilified for so long.

She did what she needed to do last night, and nothing more. The Republican experiment in neo-fascism must be halted while our children and grandchildren still have a chance of being people, not commodities. It doesn't matter who the figurehead is.

Posted by: paulF | August 27, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Any Democrat who listened to Hillary Clinton last night and still refuses to wholeheartedly support Barack Obama, is an example of the clueless voters who helped install George W. Bush. Not once, but TWICE, those idiots fell for the lies of the corporate political machine. Clinton was clear to her supporters: We need to rally behind Obama. There is no choice, lest we want to endure four more years of disastrous decline.

Posted by: Jerry | August 27, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

In the end, Ruth, she beat you all.

In grace, courage, class, inspiration, integrity, leadership, and "unity."

Left you snarky, picky, divisive journalists in the dust.

And LIFTED her listeners to a very high place, inspired, refreshed, renewed.

I could list a page full of snarky, divisive journalists and bloggers and politicians who owe her an apology, who could never have delivered what she did last night.

She WON, Ruth. And none of the Frank Richs or Eugene Robinsons or Maureen Dowds or Andrew Sullivans or Markos Moulitsos or Keith Olbermanns or Chris Matthews or Jim Clyburns or Jesse Jackson Jrs or David Axelrods will ever be able to damage what the American people saw and LOVED last night.


And that's the bottom line, Ruth.

All the rest is noise.

Posted by: Mary | August 27, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Obama betrayed the Democratic party. He did it because he is a weak candidate. Kennedy took Johnson, Reagan took Bush. Obama took Biden. By taking Biden who is a male clone of Hillary, Obama said to 1/2 of the Democratic party you got it wrong. Biden who statistically got no votes and had to quit Obama thinks is the better candidate. Obama's reactions to international events is to quit and run and later edit his comments. The Democrats deserting Obama are not doing so because they do have similar ideals, but rather because they know he is an empty suit. They supported Hillary because because she brought substance, an attribute Obama is sorely missing. McCain may not be exactly what they want and claiming he is a clone of Bush is wrong and will backfire on the Democrats. But frankly that's all the Democrats can do because there is no way to make up for the unqualified Obama who barely squeaked by and who was losing momentum at the end of the primary season.

Posted by: Rich | August 27, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Hillary's two biggest mistakes: listening to Bill Clinton and hiring Mark Penn.

I think she has learned her lesson -- unfortunately the nation will be the worse for it without Hillary as President beginning in 2009.

She will and must make her mark in the Senate/congress despite the ineffectual, spineless cowardly duo of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. Obama will need Hillary (and her supporters) more than ever IF he can manage to accomplish what HE must do on his own from this point forward.

Go Hillary! You've done more than all the others combined.

Posted by: | August 27, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Mr. James King [above] the Mcshame shills are easily identified by their nonsensical and vitriolic posts. Also easily identified are the supposed "I love you Hilary but won't vote for Obama or I'll sit this one out or vote we for Mcshame because...." posters are shills or GOP trolls that are desperately trying to pry votes away from Democratic candidates by playing to 'any' lingering resentments of the "It's not fair" crowd. Any rational voter or even the most rabid Hilary supporter should recognize that Mcshame's positions, statements and announced policies are antithetical to Hilary's or Obama's policies and positions and that 'sitting this one out' is not a choice.

Mcshame's 'Double-talk, Flip-flop Express" is the bus to nowhere, driven by desperation and deceit, conducted by Karl Rove and fueled by Big Oil.

Posted by: JbeeAZ | August 27, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Certainly the best speech I've heard Hillary give. In fact, it was so good, it not only spoke to her supporters with gratitude, but delivered for Obama with sincerity. It also made me realize what a missed opportunity this is for all of us. I saw a woman who should have been accepting her party's nomination for president. There wasn't just grace and charity there, but real power, the kind of power you want in a leader. Oh well, I wait for Barack's speech to see if he is "presidential", or just a good speech-giver. There is a difference I think. We'll see.

Posted by: CB1231 | August 27, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

The speech was all about Hilary, she only supports Obama because he agrees with her. If I were a member of the Democrat Party I would be embarrassed with Obama as my candidate. He has nothing going for him except charisma and a great speech writer. He is an empty suit with no qualifications, no significant experience, and no idea how to govern. He has never managed anything. I am amazed that he has any support at all. It is a sad commentary on the shallowness of the Democrat voter.

Posted by: dave | August 27, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

These boards are filled with republicans pretending to be democrats....FALSE FLAG!

Posted by: onefreeman | August 27, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Wonderful speech. It left me wondering how she could have lost to someone with so little experience. Obama was never a choice for me. I like McCain, agree with his politics, but I would have voted for Hillary.

Posted by: Maryland | August 27, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

It makes me heartsick to read these comments. The backbiting is just stupid and really plays into the rich guys and their party's hands completely. This is why we don't really have a strong democratic party. It's entirely about ego for so many of you.

If Obama doesn't win the presidency, you Hillaristas will be given the blame by the media. And this will be the meme that follows poor Hillary Rodham around for the rest of her life. There are those of you who say she will get it in 2012. Not really possible. For one thing the entire black community is going to blame the woman (and she bears some blame for carrying the primaries on, despite the numbers) for whatever happens to Obama. Without that community, she has no national future in the democratic party. Can't you understand that?

And if McCain wins, and puts the one more consevative on the Supreme Court that is needed to overturn Roe v. Wade, she will get the blame for that, too. Whether she deserves it or not. If you really gave a damn about Hillary, feminism, and all the issues that supposedly make you a democrat and not a republican, you would do everything you can to get Obama elected. You'd be out there, proud Hillary supporter, knocking on doors. Lacking that, Hillary Clinton's national political life will be toast. And you people, her socalled supporters, will be to blame (along with the media, who are just loving you and this story). Welcome to the downfall of america, sponsored by the fools who let their hearts dictate the loss of our children's future because they think this is just about themselves. Selfish selfish selfish. And truly sad.

Posted by: Tim Osburn | August 27, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Hey Dave, Obama writes his own speeches.

And he wrote his own books. Did you read them?

Amazing how people can just say things without taking any time to check it out.

Obama is more than a great speaker. He's a great writer. Read his books. It tells you how his mind works. I've read McCain too, though he didn't actually write his books. They are not in the same league as Obama's. But, I suppose reading is just too much for you McCain people to do. Your life is too filled with making money and being afraid of people who don't look like you.

Posted by: Tim | August 27, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I loved Hillary's speech and believe she delivered more than was expected. Unlike other Hillary supporters, I do not think she wished to be on the ticket. So all of this talk about "he should have picked her" is silly to me. I mean, this way she can become a power house in the senate instead of #2.

Posted by: Steve | August 27, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Incredible speech. I was almost in tears. She was more presidential than I have ever seen her. And she reminded me what a sad, sad mistake we made in chosing Obama.

Posted by: Hillary2012 | August 27, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Perusing all the previous posts, let me see if I have an understanding of how the Democratic mind works; if I voted for Hillary in the primaries, I was a racist; if I voted for Obama, I was a sexist; if I vote in November for McCain, I am a traitor to all the noble values my country espouses.
Sen. Clinton lost because she ran an inept campaign. She failed the tests of leadership, financial management, judgement, & foresight. If she couldn't run a successful campaign, why should I trust her with the future of my country, or my family? Sen. Obama will lose in Nov because of her divisiveness & posturing for 2012. Gush over her all you want after her moment in the spotlight, but if Obama is defeated in Nov, she will be mentioned in the Democratic Party in the same breath as Ralph Nader. We will NOT forget the damage she has caused or the ammunition she has given the Republicans.

Posted by: Don Pasquale | August 27, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Who is this 'LOUIE' the nut job? She(I am sure it is 'she' with that hysterical tone of her message)sounds like a typical die-hard Hillary's Sisterhood member.

They tend to be middle aged or older, bitter, sagged, unhappy in their love life and very very hateful. Some feminism Hillary ended up inspiring.

By the way, don't try to accuse me of some male chauvinism cos, gals, I am one of you, except that I can spot a fake when I see one.

Posted by: thisworld | August 27, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Hillary supporters,

She did not want to be picked.Why would a sitting Senator want to be a VP, unless they are older and want that last shot at immortality?

If Obama wins...she will be the next supreme Court Justice. If Obama Loses- She will be the 2012 Democratic Nominee

Posted by: Steve | August 27, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

There are some strange fantacists on here. What part of Senator Clinton's endorsement for Obama do you people not understand? Some people have gone beyond clutching at straws and are clutching at the reflection of their own last straws. The one about the well-crafted video showing Edwards and Obama, how can that be twisted into a subversive double cross? It makes no sense.

To go back to the real subject at hand: how to get the presidency back for the democrats and how to support the candidate (whose name for all those if haven't learned it yet is Sen. Obama). Does anyone recall the stink about the copyright that the Clinton campaign had on the footage for the 3 am ad? There was talk about sueing the girl who appeared as a sleeping 10 year old. What about hearing how the Clinton campaign would like to sue McCain for using Clinton's "copyright" material? Was that you Mark Penn, speak up I can't hear you.

Funny how double standards can apply to men as well as women. When a Clinton or a McCain speaks his mind that's being strong or straight, when an Obama does he or she's
being anti-American, hateful, or worse.

Wake up America and smell the coffee, Chris Brown in Hamburg

Posted by: Chris Brown | August 27, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Nothing Hillary could do or say that will prevent Obama from tanking in November.

Based on the contining vile vicous assautls on Hillary by Obama's mimions, she will be blamed for Obama's tanking.

Obama made a pitch for blacks taking responsibility for themselves. When Obama tanks who will Obama and his supporters blame? Hillary? The ever convenient white racism? It could not be that the majority of voters will see him for the inexperienced golden tongued con man that he is. The second coming can do no wrong.

Posted by: William | August 27, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Great speech. Now what about the law suit in Philadelphia about the falsification of the Annoited One birth certiifcate. Could be great for Hilary and could be nominated instead of the Annoited One

Posted by: Mike | August 27, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I guess I can't help but recall that in order to get momentum for her primary fight, Hillary played the gender card and women were prodded by Hillary supporters to be loyal to her because of who she is, not because she was really the best candidate.

Then, when that didn't get her ahead, she played the race card and walla, off she soared. Her landing reminds me, however, of John Ritter's last landing. But, given her wealth and the short memories of most opinion makers and many democrats, the fact that she did those things as well as her "ran for cover" lie will soon be forgotten.

Just think, with all her experience and despite the help of her president husband she ran a badly managed campaign. We are to give her management of the country when--despite having been part of 2 previous ones--she couldn't even manage her own nationwide campaign?

I hope though that one thing some pundits predict holds true, that is, if Obama loses, Dems won't allow her a second chance in 2012. For one thing, I find both Clintons to be as morally corrupt as John McCain and George Bush. More importantly, however, I vehemently oppose the concentration of power in the hands of two political families. Such a concentration has the country racing down the road to ruin.

Posted by: oyoung | August 27, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Any Democrat who votes for McCain because Clinton didn't get the nomination is a fool. Any Democrat who can possibly come to the conclusion that four more years of conservatism, war & economic hardship for the middle class and the poor is better than supporting the Democratic nominee is simply being destructive to this country and to its people. Give the man a chance. Yes, she has more credentials, but she is also old world politics & she didn't get the nomination because so many want change. Let's take a chance on an intelligent, respected man who just might offer something new. He might not too, but there is only one way to find out and that is not by putting another Republican in the White House. Enough already! This country may break under 4 to 8 more years of what we have been through under the worst President in American history. We desperately need change and Obama offers it.

Posted by: Bill B. | August 27, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I kinda forgot who is being nominated as the Democratic candidate for the presidency. Is it Hilary? The Democrats are self- destructing for this election and the one in 2012. Obama has one major thing going against him. He's black. Did I mention that he's black? There's lots of white Democrats out there that ain't gonna vote for a black man. Especially one that beat out the prodigal daughter, Hillary. Man, the Republicans are having a field day. What can I say, 4 more years of Bush.

Posted by: Ralph | August 27, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse


You and I must have heard a different speech than the one Cohen and Kurtz heard last night.

Posted by: Dahagg | August 27, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

First, I thought the speech was the best she could have given.

She was in an almost no-win situation. But she pulled it off (pundits be damned).

Basically, her speech, while addressed to the whole party, was really meant for her supporters. She talked about herself and the reasons she ran in order to help validate their efforts. And I think it was brilliant the way she posed the question, "Did you support my candidacy for me? Or for [the examples of hardship I just named]?" It was a way of saying to her supporters, "Yeah, we fought hard, but the primary battle is not nearly as important as the general election. So quit sulking and face reality. McCain is not going to support your values."

She didn't need to rehash any of her comments (as some on PBS thought she should have) because then she could have gone down the road of bitterness (or been perceived to do so).

The theme last night was about moving forward and looking to the future and that is exactly what Sen. Clinton did with her speech.

Posted by: Joel | August 27, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Exactly how much did Hillary say about
Obama as a person or as a leader? Or ask yourself this: if the nominee had been Biden, Dodd, Richardson or any of the other candidates, would she not have been able to give exactly the same speech, just patching in the different nominee name. To the list of "invisibles" in this speech, add the person, the person, of Barack Obama. The Clinton's radiate entitlement and dissatisfaction --- whatever the political tasks they choose to undertake.

Posted by: timothy | August 27, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Amazing speech Senator Clinton, your best yet! I wish you could have seen the pout on Michelle Obama's face during your entire speech. She hated it, she only smiled once when you said she would be a great first lady! That look on her face said it all Senator Clinton, YOU WERE SPECTACULAR, Michelle was jealous!

Posted by: jAmanda | August 27, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Hillary Clinton did a fantastic job last night and really set the tone for the unity we Democrats need. We simply cannot afford four more years of the Republicans' corrosive destruction of our nation. She understands that the consequences of failing again this time are more important than the career of one political figure and she accepts that. I believe that most of her sincere supporters know and accept it as well. Let's take back the White House and reject four more war years with John McCain.

Posted by: Chuck | August 27, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

All you Clinton supporters who list the myriad reasons why you will now vote for McCain prove what children you really are by displaying that most childish of traits... spite.

Posted by: poorlosers | August 27, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

By the way, don't get tricked by the Republicans on this website. Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama are beginning to bond. You could see it last night (Michelle was obviously pleased with what Hillary had to say, though must have, naturally, been nervous) and earlier in the day when Clinton praised Michelle's speech on Monday. She even joked that Emily's List should call Michelle if they want some of that First Lady access to the President that Hillary used to provide.

Posted by: Chuck | August 27, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

HOW VERY DUMB!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: nik | August 27, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

To the baby boom generation of women like Marie Cocco, Gloria Steinem, and Ms. Marcus I say:


...Unless you want 8 more years of CORRUPT NEO-CON SCUM deciding what you can and cannot do with your own body.

..Unless you want a supreme court made up of NEO-CONS who work AGAINST your interests.

...Unless shouting is more important to you than ACHIEVING YOUR GOALS IN REALITY.

...Unless harboring hate is more important to you than making actual progress.

...Unliess you want your grandchildren to go to Afghanistan or the Republic of Georgia to war.

...Unless misandrist slogans are more important to you than good policy.

Get on board and work hard for a democrat in the whitehouse. If you don't you'll have NO RIGHT complaining for 8 years when you had an opportunity to change the nation - even without Ms. Clinton in the whitehouse.

Posted by: JBE | August 27, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Everyone has said it all and said it all so well, Hillary IS the best candidate, and she did deliver one hell of a classic speech.

Now us "undecided" dems/indies are left to decide how to proceed to provide the best options for our country...and it's going to require looking for truths, reality, and seeing the bigger picture..

Posted by: DSmith | August 27, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

You seem to be the only one at the WaPo who watched the same speech I did.

It struck me watching Hillary that she finally came out of Bill's shadow. Unfortunately, it was a few months too late.

SHE's the Clinton who will carry on in the party, and Bill should just go overseas and pretty much stay there. He's over and done with, she's just getting started.

I hope to see HER name on the universal health care bill that President Obama signs next year.

Posted by: RealCalGal | August 27, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Hillary spent the better part of the spring dividing the party so that she could run again in 2012. This speech was simply to appease the party so she doesn't get tossed out.

She knows that McCain will make things much, much worse, but she doesn't care. Her political ambition is greater than her concern for the country.

To those who wanted Hillary simply because she is a woman, get over it. She is not a feminist and is not concerned about you. Unless of course you think sticking with a cheating spouse because she can use his political power as a springboard. Without Bill, you wouldn't know her name. Someday a woman will be president, and that will be a good day. However, Hillary as president might ensure she is the last for 100+ years.

She has no more experience then Obama. Being first lady does not give one experience for president. It is one thing to work behind the scenes and advise. It is something entirely to be in charge. She is not tested.

Who cares? Bill had no national political experience and did a marginally decent job. Obama has more savvy, ethics and intelligence then Bill and Hillary combined.

It is always popular to say that the future of the nation is at risk in an election. However, this year it is true. The US is in serious decline, 4 more years of greed, corruption, and war mongering will literally spell the end of the USA.

Is some selfish woman's political ambition worth that?

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford | August 27, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: SWITCH | August 27, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Listen again and again. This is a very good speech. Her words were clear and concise. Her inflections and topics were well drafted. Thanks, Sen. HRC. I enjoyed listening to you over and over.

Posted by: jerry rubin | August 27, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

After hearing Hillary's speech last night and reading the comments above, it has become perfectly clear to me that those people who CLAIM to have supported Hillary and now plan to vote for McCain are trolls.

Republicrat trolls.

Saw a bunch of them on MSNBC pretending to be Democrats. Had seen a few of those faces before, and I must say a couple of them were total Ann Coulter clones.

No true supporter of Hillary's could fail to respond to her last night. She clearly pointed out how the ISSUES she fought for were more important than her as an individual, and that things that matter to her as a public servant can ONLY happen if a Democrat wins the White House.

You don't have to like the guy. You can even resent some things he said or did during the primaries, but you cannot support Hillary and vote for McCain.

Posted by: No Way No How No McCain | August 27, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I am an avid Obama supporter and I have been from the 2004 Convention. Hillary's speech last night was more than any Democrat or American could have hoped for. Clear in its intentions, concise in its progression and perfectly laid out the case for an Obama vote from the Hillary supporters. She stated most eloquently that we did not vote for her or Obama because of her or Obama but because of the change that we so desperately want for this country. Hillary put aside her own aspirations and her own dreams to stand by her country's future. This is Hillary's ultimate sacrifice which we shall not forget. Tonight she is my hero.

Posted by: Sama Adnan | August 27, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary IS the best candidate, and she did deliver one hell of a classic speech."

One self serving speech makes her the best candidate???

What about that guy who run a better campaign, managed the organization and its finances way better than Hillary?

You want someone who can't even run a smooth and consistent compaign.

To those who think the speech was awesome and what was needed can you please explain one thing?


Now tell me I should believe her.

Posted by: Amazed | August 27, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe that people believed what she said last night, despite the fact it is completely different than what she was saying last May.

Her ambition for the white house is paramount. She would willingly destroy our country just so she can be elected.

Posted by: Simple amazing | August 27, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Why did Obama decide now was the time to run for president? I believe it was because he believed this was his chance. I believe he saw the opportunity knowing full well how hard it would be for a woman and the race issue was just a bonus for him. How does he really see women? Not all that favorably I suspect. This is not a monumental moment in our history, it is just another man who did not have to work half as hard as a woman to get twice as much credit. I will sit out this election.

Posted by: RSW | August 27, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Clinton's main subject was the principles SHE ran on, and she stated it was HER platform. In referring to Obama she said we need a democratic President, not 'we need Obama'. Nor did she compliment his character. She did an admirable job, considering she was only doing what she HAD to do.

Now it's time for Bozo to emerge from his Greek temple. Perhaps a light will shine down?

Posted by: Billw | August 27, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm voting for Hillary because:

- She is a better leader than any candidate out there. As far as I'm concerned, politicians are all equally guilty. For whatever reason Hillary is judged more harshly than men.

- She never gives up. Unlike Obama, Hillary stays the course.

- She can handle pressure under fire and, by the end, keep things together: Bill's infidelity.

- It's time to bring the US into the 21st century. The men have had their chance and have failed at leadership across the board/board rooms. It's time for women to step up to the plate. Besides. We live longer.

– She is empowering.

I believe she is the ONLY viable candidate in this election.

Posted by: Theresa | August 27, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

To the mindless nitwit named : To all Hillary Supporters. You would condemn all of us to four more years of the country spiraling downward to satisfy your spite. You would sentence more kids to die in Iraq, more Americans to no no health coberage, more children to underfunded edeucational programs, and GENERATIONS to the rulings of a McCain Supreme Court--just so your girl can look as a savior in 2012. Your ignorance is appalling, your judgement suspect, and your analysis bassackwards. She will NEVER be president unless its in 2016, and by then either the country will be healed or irretrievably lost. Get over it--either vote for change or become Republican; right now you're a useless loud voice whining in the wind

Posted by: bklyndan | August 27, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama said:
"A light will shine down... from somewhere. It will light upon you. You will experience an epiphany... You will say to yourself, 'I have to vote for Barack' "

What with hid Greek temple, maybe he believes it.

Posted by: Billw | August 27, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

"This is not a monumental moment in our history, it is just another man who did not have to work half as hard as a woman to get twice as much credit."

She married and stuck to a cheater.

Everything she is politically is 100% due to Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Simply stupifying | August 27, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

To all these psycho babblers, the verdict is in: Obama's inexperience and unreadiness to be commander in chief are painfully clear. Irrespective of your political affiliation, you must put your country's interests ahead of your party's.

Posted by: Connie | August 27, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Is it realy that hard for people to let others have an idea or opinion? No wonder the media is able to elect our officials.

Posted by: RSW | August 27, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

To the person who contends Obama's potential loss of the election will be due to the Hillarists...

Isn't this election about CHANGE? If not now, when?

And for those who enjoy Hillary bashing, it would do you well to check the records of the rest of the politicians. And please, learn how to spell.

My impression of Obama it that his agenda---the only goal---is to be the first black president. Nothing more. If he wants change so badly, he would bring new people to Washington. Joe Biden is not consistent with change.

Does it bother anyone that Obama is absent from the convention, refuses to participate in town hall meetings and jetting off to Europe for reasons that seem disingenuine? It sure bothers me.

Posted by: Theresa | August 27, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"You don't have to like the guy. You can even resent some things he said or did during the primaries, but you cannot support Hillary and vote for McCain."

Sure we can. Just watch us.

And remember, there's a very big distinction between the REAL John McCain and the arch-villain that Huffington, Axelrod & Co. have constructed.

Posted by: prettierthanthou | August 27, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Here's some food for thought. The average IQ is 100. What this means is that half of the population has an IQ of average or below. Approximately 70% of the population has an IQ of just slighlty above average or below.Why is this significant. Because the media and the spin doctors know most people vote with their emotions not their intellect.

Posted by: RSW | August 27, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

If Hillary had won the Nom. Id vote for her. Simple as that. Because I use my mind and vote the ISSUES. No candidate is going to be my friend, or have a beer with me, or love me because I supported them. Vote for the platform you most believe in,or at least the one you can live with the most.

Don't vote your Crush....

Posted by: Obama Supporter | August 27, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

If Obama is such a strong leader and such a visionary why is he unable to work side by side with a strong woman? Why isn't Hillary the VP choice?

Posted by: sadie80 | August 27, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

So here we find, once again, another idiotic comment about Hillary Clinton. She was supposed to say, "Proud wife"?? Should she have said that and then held up his clean laundry? Or maybe one of his newly presed shirts that she rushed to pick up at the dry cleaners before they closed?

I don't think Hillary Clinton needs to tell anyone that she's a proud wife. She has stood by Bill Clinton for years. She's held herself together for his sake and the sake of her family time and time again. Plenty of people say she did it for her own gains. But, unbelievable as it may seem to the doubters, I think she's about as loyal a wife as there is. Now can we please stop talking about her role as wife and discuss her hair and clothes? Enough.

Posted by: rubyluby | August 27, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

To all those Obama supporters. What would Obama have done if he had faced as much negative media as Hillary did? I don't think we have a clue as to what his real personality is or how he will handle any lack of admiration etc etc etc.

Posted by: Rat T | August 27, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton = The greatest President that never was!

Posted by: Minoo | August 27, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

"If Obama is such a strong leader and such a visionary why is he unable to work side by side with a strong woman? Why isn't Hillary the VP choice?"

Simple: about half of the country does not like her and would not vote for her under any circumstances.

She is simply too divisive and far too much in bed with corporate America, especially the insurance companies.

She is not strong. She can not stand on her two feet and could not run an efficient campaign.

I don't see how you can call her strong when she is 100% reliant on her husband to provide for her political ambitions.

Posted by: Hillary is not VP | August 27, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Please. I beg of you. Remember that at this point it is not WHICH Democrat wins that is important. What DOES matter is taking the White House back from the Republicans. I voted for Hillary and am a strong supporter, but there was a due process and now we must look at the larger picture going forward. The party platforms couldn't be more different. If you switch your vote from Dem to Rep because you are angry about how the primary turned out, you are not only failing your candidate (Hillary) and your Country - but also the children of tomorrow. Please, vote for Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

To the media. Who decided we must all hate Hillary? When was that decision made? For what reason was it made? Why is she such a treat? To whom is she such a treat? Lets put the media on the hot seat and see how they operate under pressure. So Hillary didn't mention she was a proud wife. Is there anything this woman can do right? Why does the media love to hate her. Who owns the media? Who reviews the copy? Who, Who, Who is really running this show we call America?

Posted by: Rat T | August 27, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

"She's held herself together for his sake and the sake of her family time and time again. Plenty of people say she did it for her own gains"

If Bill's popularity at the end of his presidency was not still strong, she would have dumped him.

Question: Without Bill, would she be Senator?

Answer: No

Question: Without Bill, would she have been fairly close to the nomination?

Answer: No

Question: Without Bill, would you know who she is?

Answer: No

Question: Are people whining and crying about it because she is a woman and people are in love with the idea of a female president?

Answer: YES!

Posted by: I call BS | August 27, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Sadie 08,

Why isn't Hillary the VP? She would outshine Obama and he knows it.

Posted by: frankly | August 27, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Half of the country did not like George W. but he became president 2x and he is a sociopath. So What's your point.

Posted by: Rat T | August 27, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Do you want to know the real truth. We are all irrelevant. The corporate world stands to lose big time with a Dem president. They wrote their own ticket under Bush. No one is going to take that ticket away from them. It is probably better that Obama be the one to fail at changing this and he will fail if he gets elected because he does not know the inside of the washngton political machine. Much like they did with Jimmy Carter, they will chew him up and spit him out. It is easy to be a big fish in a small pond but much harder to be a big fish in a gigantic pond.

Posted by: Sadie 08 | August 27, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

"Why isn't Hillary the VP? She would outshine Obama and he knows it."

Nope, because he would instantly lose. She has too much baggage and is intensely disliked by the majority.

Posted by: Make HRC the embassador to Antarctica | August 27, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"Half of the country did not like George W. but he became president 2x and he is a sociopath. So What's your point."

He used fear to control the populace. Not too mention had a little help from that psycho in Florida and Diebold.

Posted by: Sheesh | August 27, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

"Are people whining and crying about it because she is a woman and people are in love with the idea of a female president?"

How sexist, men are never accused of whining. Maybe women are angry because they have to work longer and harder to get recognized while less ambitious, less talented, less experienced men sail by to higher positions.

Posted by: lucyl | August 27, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Nope, because he would instantly lose. She has too much baggage and is intensely disliked by the majority.
I don't think 50% is a majority.

Posted by: lucyl | August 27, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Thank God Hillary was able to throw all her support behind Obama without a hint of resentment, without a tinge of anger, no hard feelings, no disapointment, no devisiveness (as only women can be). Thank God she did not let any of her own secret ambitions show. Sounds kinda of like what a batterer would expect of his wife at the family reunion the day after he beat her up.

Posted by: Rat T | August 27, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

A WRITE-IN VOTE FOR HILLARY?! (Raoul) ...or for that matter, ANY vote for a third/other party candidate?!! C'mon people!--don't be fooled into thinking that a 'protest vote' will be effectively anything other than one more vote for McCain and the Republicans. Remember how "effective" those "protest votes" or protest non-votes (essentially "no opinion") were in 2000 and 2004. [Dan52, Harriet Heisey, "To All Hillary Supporters"--don't sulk!] If you are sick of the lies, ineptitude, and arrogance that have marked the last seven plus years, have tarnished (perhaps forever in the Middle East) the U.S. reputation overseas, and resulted in the deaths of thousands upon thousands of people most of whom we really had no "beef" with, then vote for the only candidate who has any real chance of sending the Republicans packing--OBAMA! ANY other "protest vote"/non-vote is just NAIVE!!

[By the way... Bob Field of Toronto? Obama supporters?... A Clinton/Obama ticket COULD possibly have put Obama in the White House for 16 years!! A missed opportunity!]

Posted by: Christian J | August 27, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

woo woo ding ding ding all aboard the asshat express to losertown. all aboard

Posted by: dick cabesa | August 27, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

And it came to pass that the national anthem was played and the ONE placed his hands over the wrong place. Some wanted to stone him, but his followers rose up and said "ye who have not fondled yourself, cast the first stone". Thus he was spared and he traveled the land, speaking to the crowds while often raising his head heavenward, as tho getting cues. And yea tho he walketh in the shadow of Wright, his charisma is great, and he plodeth on to achieve stardom. Then came a great gathering of the faithful in the west, and lo and behold, the appointed ONE came forth from the Greek temple, saying "A light will shine down... from somewhere. It will light upon you. You will experience an epiphany... ". The crowd rejoiced and awaited the blessed event, and waited, and waited, and waited, and.......

Posted by: Billw | August 27, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Everyone: Your comments and opinions (no matter what they may be) would be much stronger and sound more intelligent if correct spelling, grammar, and punctuation were used. There is a preview button for just that purpose. Please people, review your work!

Posted by: Grammar Please | August 27, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Casting a vote for none of the above and voting for a write-in is NOT a cop out. It's my right as an American citizen. The political system needs to change. As long as I live, I will never be part of the herd. I value the freedoms given to me by the US Constitution.

Thinking outside the box is a good thing.

Posted by: Theresa | August 27, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

You make me sick. "Proud wife?" you questioned? Why the heck not. Hillary is the wife of the greatest Democratic President in the country's history. I wonder in an article about Elizabeth Edwards, if you would question a "Proud wife" statement from her. Could the country once and for all quit blaming Hillary for staying with her husband. No one knows what really goes on behind closed doors. Leave the judgement to God.

Posted by: das | August 27, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Really suprised no one has sais anything about Clinton's opening statement " I'm proud". Way to dish the angrey black woman,
you go girl!!! The difference between these two women is one is a wanna be and the other is "the one".

Posted by: patrick | August 27, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Obama scams Clinton out of the nomination (not vetted re Wright until after the first 9 primaries), dumps her as VP, and then turns the responsibility of uniting the party over to her at Denver. I'd say he's a shallow prick.

Posted by: Billw | August 27, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know what the song was that played immediately before and after Hillary's speech?

Posted by: ncr | August 27, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Grammar Please | August 27, 2008 4:35 PM

get over yourself

Posted by: rat t | August 27, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

"How sexist, men are never accused of whining. Maybe women are angry because they have to work longer and harder to get recognized while less ambitious, less talented, less experienced men sail by to higher positions."

It is not sexist at all.

She is not more experienced or talented, not in any way shape or form. At least Obama got where he is on merit and not marriage.

Women are so wrapped up in gaining the presidency that they do not even care that they are supporting a non-feminist.

Posted by: Amazing | August 27, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Everyone: Your comments and opinions (no matter what they may be) would be much stronger and sound more intelligent if correct spelling, grammar, and punctuation were used. There is a preview button for just that purpose. Please people, review your work!

Posted by: Grammar Please | August 27, 2008 4:35 PM

people don't speak perfectly-people don't write perfectly-this is not a test-you just gave a good glimpse into your personality problems

Posted by: lucy l | August 27, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

"Obama scams Clinton out of the nomination (not vetted re Wright until after the first 9 primaries), dumps her as VP, and then turns the responsibility of uniting the party over to her at Denver. I'd say he's a shallow prick."

Scammed her? If that is the case, do we want someone who can be easily scammed in office? What are talking about?

Obama earned more delegates. It is Clinton's problem that she thought she had somehow earned the nomination.

He never considered her, and rightly so. So how could he have dumped her?

She had to give a talk to help bring the party together because from the end of March(where it was obvious she had lost) to when she finally gave up the race she did everything in her power to pump up McCain and bring down Obama, just so this egomaniac can run again in 4 years.

In other words, she had to fix the mess she made or her political career would be effectively over. And so would the US, with 4 more years of neo-con rule.

Posted by: WTF? | August 27, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

How does [Obama] really see women? Not all that favorably I suspect. This is not a monumental moment in our history, it is just another man who did not have to work half as hard as a woman to get twice as much credit. I will sit out this election.

Posted by: RSW | August 27, 2008 2:23 PM

It's irrational comments like this that just boggle my mind. How does Obama see women? Uh, take a look at his wife, Michelle, one of the strongest women I've seen in her generation. Do you think she walks around the Hyde Park pad barefoot and pregnant? Do you think she is able to slip in an obseravation or two at the nightly dinner table? For heavens sake! Take off your blinders!

And this is the kicker: he "is just another man who did not have to work half as hard as a woman to get twice as much credit." Everything we saw about this campaign makes it clear that BOTH worked impossibly hard; but Barrack eeked out the victory. I imagine you believe the DNC handed him the victory, but to believe that is to fail to see the many unfortunate campaign managment choices Clinton and her people made.

Nobody begrudges your preference for Clinton; but for heavens sake, please don't predicate it on fiction.

Posted by: abqcleve | August 27, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

How sexist, men are never accused of whining. Maybe women are angry because they have to work longer and harder to get recognized while less ambitious, less talented, less experienced men sail by to higher positions."

It is not sexist at all.

She is not more experienced or talented, not in any way shape or form. At least Obama got where he is on merit and not marriage.

Women are so wrapped up in gaining the presidency that they do not even care that they are supporting a non-feminist.

Posted by: Amazing | August 27, 2008 6:35 PM

ah-the perceived power of the insult-attention all females you are obviously over ambitious and dumb-you've been outed and now have no right to state your position

Posted by: lucy l | August 27, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse



Posted by: rat t | August 27, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Is it to much to ask people to have a position that is based on facts, rational discourse and intelligence?

Instead, all we are getting is mindless support of a woman based on the fact she is a woman.

You want to be taken seriously? Then bring up a rational position, not an emotive one.

Posted by: Not sexist | August 27, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse


You think Obama didn't run a solid campaign with remarkably few problems?

You think Clinton didn't make huge mistakes in management and judgement?

You would have to be blind to think that.

Or do you think that Michelle Obama isn't a strong woman who Obama is clearly 100% behind?

Or did you just learn that 50 cent word facade and wanted to show it off, in caps no less?

Posted by: Huh? | August 27, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

abcleve- i believe the media and the republican party handed him the nomination-after all the republicans own the media and it was a repubican that initially encouraged to run against Hillary and if you think he will glide through to the election the way he did the primary you are a babe in the woods. He is going to get ripped apart by the republicans, they knew they couldn't beat Hillary but they could beat him. OOPs millions have been duped just like they were when they elected George W.

Posted by: sadie 08 | August 27, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

yeah i jus learned that big big word-i was waitin to work it in -now tell me again about the rabbits george

Posted by: rat t | August 27, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

how do you suppose obama would have behaved if he had lost the nomination-with grace and generosity?

Posted by: sadie 08 | August 27, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

ms marcus-what will the media do without Hillary-who will they focus on, scrutinize, persecute, who will be the next target of the media's self absorption and nacissistic indulgence. I can hardly wait. It will be as exciting as the election. The love the media has for itself is the most monumental shift
in the history of this nation.

Posted by: rat t | August 27, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I can't help but notice how ardently the press are working -- beyond overtime -- to stir the pot and create friction and discord among Clinton and Obama supporters.

I wonder if Michelle and the Obama campaign understand that she (Michelle) will become the next 'target of hate, vitriol and sexism' ?

the media and the right wing commentators at fox and the republican party already have perfected their template: 16+ years of hating and attacking Hillary Clinton (something many Obama supporters seem to have easily and gleefully emulated I might add).

They'll most likely avoid overt / obvious racism and instead focus on spewing the misogynistic hate and bilious vile since that's still overtly allowed, promoted and applauded in our cultures. I hope she's prepared. > Hillary should have been the nominee, Barack should have been the VP pick because after 8 years as VP he would have been undoubtedly qualified for 8 years as president.

But like Hillary said: No McCain!

Posted by: | August 27, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

A perfect example of why Hillary deserved to be the nominee and would have beyond all doubt have been elected president. A woman of substance, not a vapid lightweight. It s a shame.

Posted by: Tamerina | August 27, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

WHAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR in Barrack Obama's speech: . .

100% of all our electricity produced by renewables in 10 years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

1) It will boost our economy,
2) help decrease global-warming,
3) help decrease our involvement in the madness of the Middle East,
4) help decrease the strong arming Russia,
5) help decrease financial support to terrorist,
6) and it will leave some resources for our grandchildren.

Posted by: Coldcomfort | August 27, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

"Scammed her?"

Call it whatever you want. Obama won the first 9 primaries before his 20 year relationship with the anti-American racist Wright hit the news. That leveled the playing field and it was nip-and-tuck after that. Even so, Clinton almost won.
He does not deserve to be the nominee.

Posted by: Billw | August 27, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

To all those miffed Hilary supporters who are still hell bent on a protest/McCain vote, I urge you to think again.To do so is to mock the democratic process and confirm to the rest of the world that your politically naive practices are driving America further down a dangerous path where neo conservative interests will continue to prevail.Have some integrity and respect for the great democracy in which you live and vote for change and a better future on Nov. 4.

Posted by: scottish jim | August 28, 2008 7:11 AM | Report abuse

If you really care about Hillary and Bill Clinton, you honor them by giving them something back, What they asked for is for Hillary supporters to give Obama a chance and your vote. Don't you think after all the Clintons have done for us it's the least we can do? honor their choice and trust their request? When you compare Obama to McCain on the issues, and seriously go do it if you haven't and are Democrat and truly believe in good Democratic values, you will see this is a no brainer. Obama was not my first choice, but he is the nominee now and will make a great President compared to McCain, no question. To all my fellow Hillary supporters let's help our fellow Democrat Barack Obama out and show our party we are true Democrats, let's show the Republicans they can't split us apart and let's show the world we can take back our country from the oppressors of the Republican dictatorship. The time is NOW.

Posted by: Democrats 08 | August 28, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

"To all those miffed Hilary supporters who are still hell bent on a protest/McCain vote, I urge you to think again."


"What they asked for is for Hillary supporters to give Obama a chance and your vote. Don't you think after all the Clintons have done for us it's the least we can do"

Politics above fairness? The Democrat way?

Posted by: Billw | August 28, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

this HILLARY Supporter is Supporting SARAH PALIN!!!! and I would never support a misogynist like Obama and his paid off cronies like msnbc

Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews definately took that money from Obama democrats... it is so obvious and I hope the truth comes out. They spit more hate then any other new channel in history... so much for Hope and Change... more like HOPELESS.

MCCAIN/PALIN (both have children who serve!!!!)

Posted by: andrea | August 30, 2008 6:31 AM | Report abuse

The democrats blantant sexism has destroyed what faith I ever had in the party. Their discusting double standards and the horrible treatment of Hillary by the DNC / liberal media has pushed me away. I may never come back.

Obama's new democrats.. sexism, lies and Hillary hate.

Posted by: Hillary2012 | August 31, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

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