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We Don't Want Another Agnew

Folks in the McCain camp are engaged in one giant pity party over the way in which the media are trying to scrutinize their hero, GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin. Let’s hope her defenders don’t drown in their crocodile tears. A more counterfeit show of woe would be hard to find.

With Election Day only eight weeks away, Sarah Palin is the least vetted member of a presidential ticket in recent history. The McCain team, of course, wants to keep it that way -- since the image they’re created of Palin as the reincarnation of Ronald Reagan and Betty Crocker seems to be a winner.

The press can’t let that happen.

We fell for that trick once before, and America hasn’t experienced a similar political nightmare since 1973.

Lest we forget, another Republican presidential nominee pulled the same stunt that John McCain is trying to perform this year.

McCain’s role model? Richard Nixon.

To recall: A stunned America learned in 1968 that Nixon had asked a politically obscure Republican governor, Spiro T. Agnew, to join him on the ticket.

As with the impact of McCain’s out-of-nowhere announcement of Palin, some of the 1968 Republican convention delegates were heard to ask “Spiro who?”

At the time, Agnew -- like Palin -- had been governor (of Maryland) for only two years. Also like Palin, Agnew’s political career began at the local level, when he was elected Baltimore County executive in a campaign in which he was billed as a reformer. He went from county exec to vice president in six years.

One more similarity to McCain's surprise choice: Nixon knew very little about the nature of Agnew’s service as county executive and governor.

Nixon and the rest of the country didn’t learn about the vice president’s previous life until word leaked out that Agnew was under investigation by the U.S. attorney’s office in Baltimore on charges of accepting bribes during his time as governor.

The government nailed him.

Vice President Agnew was allowed to plead no contest to charges of money laundering and tax evasion in exchange for his resignation in 1973, payment of a fine and three years' probation.

Spiro Agnew left office in disgrace.

That he even reached the nation’s second-highest office and ended up a heartbeat away from the presidency is because Richard Nixon didn’t do his job.

But Nixon wasn’t alone. The press failed the American people, too.

To look the other way this year because the McCain camp is cynically making us out to be the enemy is to shrink from our duty.

Of course the lives of Sarah Palin’s children are none of our business.

Palin's public service, however, as a council member, as mayor and as governor, is very much the American voter's business.

Thus far, all we have about her from the McCain camp is fluff. That’s to be expected.

But Americans who go to the polls in only a few weeks need to know more about the character and integrity of Palin’s service, her use -- or misuse -- of power and the public purse, and her ability and capacity to handle a job on the scale of the vice presidency.

Agnew was a fool and an idler. "No assassin in his right mind would kill me," Nixon is said to have joked to his aide John Ehrlichman, according to Agnew's obituary in the New York Times. “They know if they did that they would wind up with Agnew.”

I’d say that judgment came about four years too late.

We can’t make that mistake again.

By Colbert King  | September 14, 2008; 6:32 PM ET
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As Sarah knows, God has a plan and that plan is for Sarah to become Vice President and then President. Its God's will.

Old man McCain and Palin. Together they will lead America and bring God's plan to its successful conclusion. And that conclusion is God's destruction of this heathen country.

McCain and Palin. Together they are doing the Lord's work!

Posted by: God's Plan | September 14, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Your post is very blatantly partisan. The "fluff" is what we have been getting from Obama for months. The analogy to Nixon/Agnew is a stretch. So far the press hasn't uncovered anything but minor issues about Palin. There is nothing to suggest that Palin has engaged in any of the type activity which was so disturbing about Agnew. You write as if you are wishing you do find such information about Palin. Your motives are obvious.

Posted by: Democrat for McCain/Palin | September 14, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Palin is an extreme right winger. Elect her if you want to give away women's right's to their own bodies. Bye bye abortion if McPalin is elected.

Palin isn't a fraction as qualified as Biden to become president.

Posted by: right winger in sheeps clothing | September 14, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Its shocking to me that so many people have fallen in love with Palin. Her experience and tenure in political office is questionable, her tendency to fall into rehearsed speech disengenuous, and her inability to answer questions truthfully disconcerting. I hope the press does its job in fully vetting her and that the public realizes the media is just doing what McCain's campaign neglected to do. This isn't sexism or picking on Palin - this is doing what's right by the electorate.

Posted by: Distraught in Northern Virginia | September 14, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

It is the American Dream. Anybody can be born in America and grow up to the be President. Just be sure to be wedded to narrow-minded bigots and on the take. Let us suppose Governor Palin finds herself to be POTUS. And she really steps in it. Will we have the quickest, most intense impeachment ever?

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | September 14, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

To "Democrat for McCain/Palin"

I'd ask you one question to answer fairly and honestly...maybe Mr. King will weigh in:

Can you honestly look anyone in the face (or yourself in the mirror) and say that Sarah Palin is more qualified than Kay Bailey Hutchison or the other experienced Republican women legislators? The Nixon/Agnew comparison is not a stretch at all for those of us who lived it.

McCain should have to answer the question as well. I suspect he knows the answer but really is scared someone will force him to answer it.

Posted by: John | September 14, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Right on, Mr. King.

There's just one angle that you don't mention. Nixon very much knew what he was doing when he picked Agnew as the "attack dog" that he planned to sic on liberals and Democrats, outbidding the notorious George Wallace in the race to rope in the millions of white racists, North and South, to drive the Democrats from the White House. Nixon got exactly what he wanted. Wallace was in fact a serious threat to Nixon's second bid for the WH in 1968, and picking the little-known Agnew Nixon pulled off a master stroke. (Agnew, by the way, still had a reputation as a "moderate," having won the Maryland governorship over a crazy racist nutjob named George Mahoney [or something like that], whose slogan as I recall was "Your home is your castle.")

McCain has picked Palin for exactly the same reason--to be the attack dog (a "pit bull in lipstick," so she called herself) against Obama and the Democrats. Sarah Palin IS the 2008 reincarnation of Spiro Agnew.

The press has got to be utterly relentless in its pursuit of this awful woman, exposing every bit of her tawdriness, her dishonesty, and her unfitness for the vice presidency.

Obama needs to concentrate his fire on McCain as the culprit responsible for this reckless, dangerous, and disreputable choice. He has to avoid getting caught in the Republicans' obvious trap of attackin Palib the poor woman.

i remember that awful year 1968 and fear that it's going to be repeated. God help this country!

Thanks for your piece, Mr. King.

Posted by: jm917 | September 14, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

A better analogy would be with an unkown governor from Arkansas, who managed to get elected PRESIDENT in 1992: Bill Clinton.

This man was a serial womanizer who had so many extramarital affairs that it was difficult to keep track. He lied with a straight face about those affairs, time and again. He ended up having a White House intern do him a b___job in the room next to the Oval Office. And he lied under oath about that affair too. The nation was embarrased. Clinton survived impeachment.

Clinton's wife, Hillary, had an interesting history of her own. An attorney, she had been involved in dirty businesses in Arkansas. Her eight years in the White House were filled with one scandal after another: Travelgate, Whitewater, Vince Foster, etc etc.

Bill and Hillary Clinton had a very weird relationship. She accepted Bill's infidelity as a fact of life, and stood by her man. In exchange, he gave her a prominent political role, appointing her as the head of the Commission that prepared a complete overhaul of the American health system. She failed miserably, but she continued to be Bill's most important and trustworthy advisor.

Vince Foster, a close friend of the Clintons, was found dead near the White House. Monica Lewinsky was made a national laughinstock by Clinton.

On their last day at the White House, the Clintons granted pardons to several of their business partners, who had been convicted on multiple crimes.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I was impressed by Palin's convention speech, UNTIL I checked the facts. She lied about selling the executive jet on EBay, and she lied about telling Congress she did not want the bridge to nowhere. Only after Congress nixed the bridge did she come out against it..prior to that she was all for it. If she lies in her first major speech, how can anyone believe anything she says? It looks to me like she's willing to do or say whatever it takes to get the spotlight. All her new supporters should check the facts before they check any names on the ballot box.
Thank you.

Posted by: Pat Nash | September 14, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. King,

Wow, talk about fluff. This was truly the fluffiest article I have ever read, and I agree with your premise. Why might Palin be an Agnew? Is it because you are under the assumption that she wasn't vetted? Well, Palin probably did have a background check of any criminal wrong doing and financial problems. I am not sure if Agnew was properly vetted in this way. I think her current looseness with the truth is where Ms Palin concerns me: Did she ever really go to Iraq?, Did she take the money for the Bridge to Nowhere or not? Did she try an hide her daughter's pregnancy in the first place? Was she for the BTNW before she was against it? She says no, the evidence says something completely different, did she take earmarks as major and as governor? etc...

Posted by: Karl Warrington | September 14, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Pat Nash,

Governor Palin said very clearly:

"I got rid of a few things in the governor's office that I didn't believe our citizens should have to pay for. That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay."

The state had paid just under $2.7-million for the plane in 2005. The asking price on eBay was $2.5 million, but no bidders showed up. Then, the state turned to an aircraft broker, and sold the plane to a businessman, who paid $2.1-million.

Did Governor Palin say "I SOLD it on eBay"? NO. She PUT it on eBay. Which is true.

Posted by: berrymonster | September 14, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

I just hope the public starts seeing through the McCain camp's falsehoods.

McCain of 2000 had honor.


McCain of 2008 has no honor.

Posted by: jds | September 14, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

We are just finishing an 8 year nightmare of lies and cronyism and this woman seems to be a bigger and better continuation of that model. Another thing I have a real problem with- and I know I will be jumped on for this, but I am a professional working mother- do not parade how successful she has been meshing motherhood with a successful political career. If my 17 year old daughter had gotten pregnant in high school, I sure as hell would not be pushing for her to marry the fellow responsible ADd if I had an infant with Downs Syndrome I would be devoting much of my time to participating in the very successful therapy and intervention available to these babies from day one. These can so greatly enhance the child's future that to not provide this leg up makes me cry.She has had children, but her measure of success as a parent is FAR different from mine.

Posted by: cvc76 | September 14, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Those who don't know
We barely know Mrs. Palin. She gave a few speeches and now some want to jump - hooray- let's spend the next 4 years with her as VP.

Before the Press did some homework:
Did you know Mrs. Palin plays cronyism?
Did you know Mrs. Palin kept the money for the Bridge to nowhere and was for it?
Did you know that Mrs. Palin was not in Iraq nor Ireland as she proclaimed?
Did you know that Sarah Palin spent 300 days working from home and billing them as overnight stays to the State of Alaska?

The "pitbull" should get the same treatment as Hillary did when she lied.
Why the hypocrisy? Some are hoping that we talk about the Soap Opera of Mrs. Palin and her family rather talk about the failing economy, about jobs we need, about the housing crisis, about the middle tax break that we need, about our lack of good foreign policy, about g.W. spending $80Billion and don't know what for,

Wake up people!!!! Sarah Palin is not what we need. I cannot vote for someone I will barely know about by November 4.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

To Berrymonster:

How can you defend what was an obvious distortion of the truth? This is not some game of trick answers (like Bill Clinton's idea of sex). She made her ebay statement so people would believe that she was a creative maverick, capable of using hip technology for her advantage. You know who else put a major item on ebay? Michael Scott, when he sold his house at 80% value. Michael Scott, you ask? He's the buffoon from The Office.

To Anon:

All you are doing is attacking Bill Clinton's family background. Please attack his actual policies if you have such a problem with his leadership. You're message is the same as the ridiculous attacks on Palin's family. (Of course, Bill O'Reilly called Jaime Spears' parents "pinheads" for letting their daughter get pregnant, so based on that philosophy...)

Posted by: B | September 14, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Not yet revealed
1. Palin went to and graduated from a propaganda training program in Moscow.

2. The mayor of Talkeetna, slightly to the north of Wasilla, is a cat named Stubbs. We were in delightful Talkeetna in August and saw the mayor being chased over a wooden fence by a local dog, undoubtedly a Democrat.

http://doc40.blogspot.com/2008/09/meet-mayor-stubbs-from-alaska_10.html

3. The neighboring town of Palmer is reputed to grow the strongest marijuana in the country. We know that Palin visited Palmer in August, we think traveling by state helicopter. (The state fair was there as were we)

4. Last week Palin flew into the Fairbanks airport, which is to the right of both downtown and Fred Meyer.

5. Has anyone heard a rumor that Biden will withdraw allowing Tina Fey to replace him on the Democratic Obama ticket?

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/fey-palin-character-debuts-on-snl/

Posted by: Larry Oswald | September 14, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I think that with the financial meltdown that the press might begin to get more serious and start demanding answers from McCain and Palin. If they fail to answer, the press has a duty to help the American people draw the appropriate inferences and to warn us of similar historical precedents. Mr. King is doing that and it is much appreciated. I hope other members of the press will follow his example. This is for the good of the American people.

Posted by: Mary | September 14, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

The plain truth is that Gov. Palin is at least as qualified as Obama.

The press should do its job — but that means investigating all of the candidates. So far the press has steadfastly refused to investigate Obama, or to provide impartial reporting about him.

Posted by: j.a.m. | September 14, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE, DO NOT COMPARE PALIN TO CLINTON-CLINTON WAS A RHODES SCHOLAR-NO MATTER WHAT HIS WEAKNESS OF THE FLESH WAS-WE NEW HE WAS INTELLIGENT AND COULD TALK ISSUE WITHOUT CRASH COURSES LIKE PALIN-OBAMA WAS EDITOR OF LAW REVIEW AT HARVARD-NON-THINKING PEOPLE ARE NOT PLACED IN THAT POSITION. EVENTHOUGH THE REPUBLICANS ARE PROMOTING THE FACT THAT ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT DOES NOT MATTER-I AM SORRY TO ME IT DOES-BILLY BOB AT THE CORNER STORE, I MAY LIKE HIM, BUT I DON'T WANT HIM AT THE LEVERS OF THE MOST POWERFUL ENTITY IN THE WORLD-AND I REALLY DON'T WANT AN ELDERLY GENTLEMAN THAT GRADUATED 894 OUT OF 899 AT THAT POSITION EITHER-BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE YOUR INTELLIGENCE CAPACITY DECLINES AS YOU AGE AND IF IT WAS NEVER THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE-WHAT ARE YOU LEFT WITH.

Posted by: joe | September 14, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

to Berrymonster:

what your saying sounds just like Clinton's use of the word "is"-microscopic mincing of word meaning and implications and inference. You are as despicable as the person uttering them, and you know it. I'd love to hear McCain and Palin talk after taking truth serum. Neither would reveal their characters as a Profile in Courage, not my definition of it anyway. I'm forever grateful that I was raised by parents with a higher standard for truth then what these people display. These are role models for young Americans?

Posted by: PT 109 | September 14, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness we have King the liberal press to tell it like it is: Palin is an unknown Governor of a minor, redneck state without any federal government experience. Contrast that with Democratic presidential luminaries Jimmy Carter, who was a 1 term Governor of Georgia, and Bill Clinton, who was a 3 term Governor of Arkansas.

Posted by: Rightie | September 14, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

"Folks in the McCain camp are engaged in one giant pity party over the way in which the media are trying to scrutinize their hero, GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin. Let’s hope her defenders don’t drown in their crocodile tears."

This coming from the guy who screams racism four times a week?

It's bad enough that Colbert is such a stinking racist. He is also a stinking hypocrite.

Posted by: Bobby D | September 14, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

joe -

Thanks for shouting at us in caps. We really appreciate it.

Harry Truman didn't go to college. George Bush went to college and got better grades than John Kerry. By your own logic, Bush would be a superior Presidential candidate to Truman. Do you believe that or do you admit that your whole argument is worthless?

Posted by: rmorrow | September 14, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Mr. King. Well said. As any American adult, over my life I have had candidates I support win, and more often, lose. I am not so very bothered by this because, while it does hurt a bit to lose, I usually have to admit somewhere down inside that the candidate I did not support was, technically, qualified for the position. It was just that i disagreed with their policies and positions.

This time it is much more serious for me. I can't think forward to McCain/Palin winning, and not think about the possibility of McCain not living out his term. And then I have to imagine Palin as President. And I can't imagine any further. The Agnew parallel is so apt ... I had forgotten about it entirely. Nixon was young, and not likely to die while in office, so we didn't think much about Agnew becoming President. But then it became clear that Nixon was a crook, and then the sobering realization hit home. But for a while, Agnew was, indeed, in line. What a horrifying thought.

The cynical choice of Palin, when there were a dozen, at least, Republican candidates I might have opposed, but still admitted were actually qualified, troubles me greatly. McCain has, so sadly, shown himself to be beneath contempt by selecting her to solidify his base. Huckaby or Hutchinson or even Phil Graham, God forbid, would have been statesman-like choices. The lady says she has foreign policy experience because she can see Russia from Alaska, and because her plane once refueled in Ireland. I'm so naive I think this should be an outrage, but 'fair and balanced reporting' standards of 2008 require giving this position equal time with her critics.

Please stop the world. I want to get off.

Posted by: Jake Tanner | September 14, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between an intolerant evangelical neocon and Palin?

lipstick

Posted by: Roy | September 14, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Mr. King,
You are hardly "the press." That was a once-respectable institution.
I am throwing down the gauntlet right now and letting you know point-blank that honest people in this country who respect Sara Palin are not going to let you and the rest of the press eviscerate her with half-truth and lies. The half-truth is a coward's best friend.
For you to compare McCain/Palin with Nixon/Agnew is a vicious smear - vicious.
I'll tell you who the least experienced, least vetted candidate in modern history is: Barack Obama, and he's at the top of the ticket!
You're not concerned that Sara Palin doesn't have enough experience. You really think we buy that? NO!
What you fear is how popular and effective she is in advancing causes and beliefs that you happen to disagree with.
Truth hurts, doesn't it?
If you didn't think she had the potential to flip this race and many more for years to come to Republicans, you'd leave her alone just as you have with the head of the Democratic ticket.
Truth hurts, doesn't it!

Posted by: waynep | September 14, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

While most of the media is indistiguishable from the rest of Obama's campaign, at least one publication, Investor's Business Daily, is doing a decent job exposing Obama for the extremist crackpot that he is:

http://ibdeditorials.com/series8.aspx

Posted by: j.a.m. | September 14, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin is more qualified than Obama. More qualified than the sleazy John Edwards. As qualified as the shrieking lunatic Howard Dean. As qualified as loathsome Bubba from the Arkansas. Has served in elective office longer than HRC.

Need I continue?

Posted by: j.a.m. | September 14, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

This author proves again that black men are sexist.

Clearly this author is out to get votes for Obama by bashing any and all women candidates.

Obama is a SEXIST PIG in lipstick.

Any woman would have to be a complete idiot to vote for him.

Posted by: Black Men are Sexist | September 14, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

We don't want a black Carter, either

Posted by: Gary | September 14, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Colbert King,
Are you f'ing Matt Damon too?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey folks,

Sarah Palin told the TRUTH when she said about the governor's plane: "I PUT it on eBay".

I pointed out this TRUTH, and you guys come out and begin insulting me!!!

I just can say THANK YOU. Your insults only reveal how difficult it is for you to deal with facts that don't fit your mindset.

Posted by: berrymonster | September 14, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Having read through the coments, I have to apologize to you, on behalf of other readers. Telling the truth is your job, and I'm glad you're willing to do it, in spite of the insults and threats sent your way by right-wing extremists.

Posted by: Bette Noir | September 14, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Another election year with two crummy ticket choices, both claiming to be the party of change.

I'd like to see term limits and the ability to "Clean House" like the Parliament in Canada.

Throw 'em all out, and start over.

Posted by: brokebackvol | September 14, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

I totally agree with this. As a matter of fact, the day after she was named, I was blogging with "Spiro T. Palin?"

McCain may love this country, but her appointment puts in doubt that he is really concerned about its future.

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | September 14, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Please keep it up regarding the blatantly partisan commentary against everything Palin.
You in the press are helping us more than anyone to elect our tickedt over your Niglet>

Posted by: Jackiefu | September 14, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

What is this? Resorting to scare tactics now, King, in trying to saving the sinking ship of Obama08!

Posted by: Mama Obama | September 14, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/proposed-commercial-mac-vs-pc.html

Sunday, September 14, 2008
A Proposed Commercial: Mac vs. PC

(White background. Childlike piano music plays).

(A picture of Barack Obama appears against the background)

VO (Similar to voice of "Mac" character): Barack Obama is like a Mac.

(A picture of John McCain appears against the background)

VO (Similar to voice of "PC" character): John McCain is like a PC.

(Picture of a bank against the background)

VO: McCain likes the old economics, corporate welfare, and tax breaks for the wealthy of George W. Bush.

(Quick cuts: Picture of Countrywide Branch, Picture of Bear Stearns, Picture of IndyMac against background)

(Picture of Obama)

VO: Obama doesn't like old systems that crash.

(Picture of a Mother, father, son and daughter against the background)

VO: Obama thinks that when it comes to health care, every American should have the access and support they need.

(Picture of family fades to blank background)

VO: McCain is against these health benefits for children, families and the elderly. He believes that when it comes to access and support for health, it's an "ownership society"--you're on your own.

(Picture of a woman standing against background)

VO: For women, McCain talks a good game, but he is against a woman's right to choose, would repeal Roe v. Wade, and even voted against equal pay for women.

(Picture expands to show many women standing behind her)

VO: Barack Obama believes that every woman should be paid the same for the same work as every man, and that every woman has the right to make her own choices.

(Picture of George W. Bush)

VO: Barack Obama has called for an end to the distortions, mismanagement, and failed policies of the Bush Administration that have left so many families in distress.

(Famed picture of McCain hugging George W. Bush)

VO: McCain has agreed with George W. Bush 90% of the time.

(Picture of McCain)

John McCain. Do you really want to spend another four years with the same old system?

(Music outro. Fade.)

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/proposed-commercial-mac-vs-pc.html

Posted by: Robert Hewson | September 14, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

The Agnew/Palin analogy is even stronger than suggested by this article. Spiro Agnew was just a PTA dad, president of the Loch Raven, Maryland, PTA, before moving on to Baltimore County executive and Maryland governor.

Posted by: Richard | September 14, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin strongly supports aerial hunting of wolves in Alaska. Here's what that looks like:

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/8/31/22337/7183

Not for people with a week stomach.

Posted by: Obama/Biden 2008 | September 14, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Cross Spiro Agnew and Dan Quayle and you have the intelligence, morality, and People Magazine appeal in one unknown package.

Posted by: charlestown | September 14, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

It will be interesting to see how President Obama goes about uniting all of us.

Posted by: Lightveder | September 14, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

The Press does owe it to the American people to vet Palin since McCain obviously did not. How could you possibly offer the job to someone the second time ever you've seen this person face to face. Most people even at mid-level Corporate jobs are interviewed 4 or 5 times prior to being offered a job and this is no mid-level Corporate job.

Posted by: HawkinCA | September 15, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Keep them coming Mr. King! The truth will set U.S. free!!!

Posted by: 1armywife | September 15, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Palin is an attractive woman. Obviously ambitious. Also bored at being a hockey mom with any interest in raising all of the kids she's been happy to pump out. Easily bored. As mayor of Wasilla then with around 5500 population, she was obviously bored or incompetent to actually function as an executive she hired a city manager. 5500 and needs a city manager? She fired the chief of police because as she said he intimidated her.

The Repugnicans are making such an issue of Obama's statement claiming that he called her a pig. Well all of their huffing and puffing just doesn't put any wings on that pig.

With a little bit more consideration, perhaps we should consider the pig question. Could it be that it's McCain who's the pig and Palin is the lipstick used to make the pig look good?

It's obvious that the base didn't care for war hero McCain no matter how much he and his surrogates flogged that horse around town.

Do the Repugs who are running the shipwreck of the Party think he's likely to die before 2012 rolls around and Sarah would be easy to control. It's a little bit more difficult to find the levers and bodies in the big pond so she would flounder.

Oh, and that other lie in the acceptance speech. Fired the governor's chef. Actually eliminated the title. The woman is still cooking away for the political establishment.

Posted by: Jerry | September 15, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Hell the press failed us big time with Bush how many people knew Bush had driven every business in the ground. He made money with the Rangers but wasn't in charge so doesn't count. Press is still in Bush's pocket we'll all be living with the tragedy of not impeaching the bastard. Accountability is non-existent in United States as long as the situation holds the Country and the World will be in free fall. Till the Crooks are in Jail stripped of their ill gotten gains things are going to continue to fall apart.

Posted by: Loser | September 15, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

We are having a global financial meltdown. Would you put Palin in charge of Merrill Lynch? OK, then why would you put her in charge of the USA? Or should we be focused on lipstick?

Posted by: Robert Cannon | September 15, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Sad thing is we probably will never see the pictures of Bush on the scaffold trashing around. I'm not big on Capital Punishment but that's one I can't wait for.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

For those barking that the press is hard on Palin:

The others have been on the campaign trail for 18 months. She is just two weeks old and will nt talk to the press. Every word that comes out of her mouth is a blatant lie and the press is supposed to keep quiet?

There is a TON of stuff on her that has simply not been revealed. How many people know that as mayor of Wasilla, she actually forced rape victimes to pay for their own treatment. In fact, Wasilla was the ONLY town in Alaska to do this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsheriff/sarah-palin-instituted-ra_b_125833.html

How many of you know that she squandered a suplurs and turned Wasilla into debt ridden town.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erik-ose/the-view-from-wasilla---g_b_124255.html

And that ebay thing...apparently, this was a long standing practice in Alaska to put up things on ebay. It wasnt even her idea. btw, the plane was sold at a loss.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/10/palins-ebay-story-what-ac_n_125361.html

The blogging community is doing a lot more vetting than the so-called jurnalists. Its a sad day when the ladies from the view ask tougher questions

Posted by: sapec | September 15, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Let's be sure all the candidates are fully vetted, including the ones we think we know. Take Obama, who we have all known for years --- or at least thought we did. Turns out there is a little more going on with the man than we first suspected. He passed The Washing Post’s vetting process with flying colors. But in what was perhaps some of the finest detective journalism of the decade, Vogue Magazine (of all people!) dug a little deeper and discovered that Barack Obama has a kid brother named George Obama who lives in a squalid slum in Kenya on less than $1 a day.

Has Barack Obama ever tried to find his brother a place to live that has running water and electricity? Has Barack Obama ever tried to get his brother into college? Nope. It seems that Barack Obama is too busy trying to be the next JFK to look after his own family. If he doesn't look out for his own brother, then what are the chances that he will look out for the American people? And what type of example does that set for American families?

True, it is not a crime to neglect an impoverished sibling, even if you are a multi-millionaire like Obama. But it also true that we need an exceptional man to be President, not some one who talks about helping Americans when the press is paying attention, then refusing to help his own brother because he thinks the press is too stupid to catch on.

Posted by: Big Joe | September 15, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

America, specifically right-wing America, is desperate for a messiah. War, frightening economic times, cultural divide; these all add up to a craving for someone to appear on the scene and save us all, preferably under the twin banners of Old Glory and Jesus. Palin fits the bill. The euphoria and bloodlust surrounding her appearance indicates a groundswell of fear among 1/3 of the populace. Be afraid of her. Be very afraid...

Posted by: Nigel | September 15, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

To all of you who think Palin is God's gift to the American public - "The biggest argument against democracy is a five minute discussion with the average voter." - Winston Churchill

Posted by: Maxine Blecher | September 15, 2008 1:42 AM | Report abuse

Comparing the crowds McCain gets to Palin's can only be a sign that he needs her more than she needs him.

Some Republican's have even forgotten who they have actually running for president here. Very sad that he has become so obscure and dependent on someone so naive as to provoke a war with Russia.

Posted by: Paul | September 15, 2008 4:17 AM | Report abuse

The PRESS need only ask two questions:

1. Do people in the lower 48 know their taxes went to Alaska anyway, whether the "BRIDGE" was or was not built? Makes no difference...We still got soaked for 400 billion that went to Alaska !

2. Do people know that much Palin claims were not her decisions but were taken out of her hands, much as Bush and his inexperience gave Cheney all the power.

As I understand it, the PLANE was sold to a Palin insider for a loss to Alaska.

Just one more question...If Juneau,Alaska is the state capital and 600 miles from Palin's hometown, and she spent 300+ days there in Wasilla and billed the state per diem, and she was only Governor 22 months....she either wasn't on the job much of the time...or where are the records of the costs of her traveling back and forth???

Posted by: Jo | September 15, 2008 4:18 AM | Report abuse

Steve Schmidt runs Palin and McEcho.
Who runs Schmidt ?

Posted by: ratl | September 15, 2008 4:24 AM | Report abuse

You might be taken a bit more seriously if you were equally skeptical about the painfully thin resume of Obama.

Posted by: Kapmep | September 15, 2008 4:29 AM | Report abuse

Spiro Agnew was fired because of bribes and such... However there is no any credible claims of Sarah Palin's dishonesty. Contrary, she actually disturbed corrupt old boys club in Alaska. Her only problem is short career in high office. So, she is conservative counterpart to Barack Obama. If he is ready, so is she. Only (big) difference is that she won't be top dog as long as McCain lives, unlike Obama who will have to be ready on day one.

Posted by: Mladen | September 15, 2008 4:54 AM | Report abuse

waynep wrote on September 14, 2008 at 9:41 PM: "I am throwing down the gauntlet right now and letting you know point-blank that honest people in this country who respect Sara Palin are not going to let you and the rest of the press eviscerate her with half-truth and lies. The half-truth is a coward's best friend."

And I am throwing the gauntlet right back at you. What a crock, Wayne! I can imagine that you were at the head of the pack of yahoos yipping and yahooing about the evisceration of John Kerry by TOTAL lies about his war record. Yes, the truth really matters to you! By looking into Sarah Palin's record and determining if you has been consistent in her expressed views and how she portrays herself, the press is not engaging in "half-truths" (whatever you mean by that, the vague non-specific assertion is the best friend of prevaricators). Lo and behold, they have been finding, one after the other, inconsistencies, if not downright contradictions in Gov. Palin's assertions and what actually happened. Call me a fool, but what does the video footage of her saying things contradicting what she has been claiming on the campaign trail indicate to you? That the horrible LIBUREL media is eviscerating your girl precisely because she is on the side of truth and righteousness. NO! IT MEANS SHE IS LYING!!!!! Which indicates she is not the person she portrays herself as (reformer, tough pit-bull), and dishonest, to boot. Not good. If you want to close your eyes to everything in front of you and pull the lever for the GOP just because religious right wingnuts tell you "Sarah is a good, honest christian hockey mom, vote for her.", well that is your right, but don't you DARE try to tell the press to shut up and stop investigating candidates, so that those of us for whom the truth and minimal competence matters are able to make an informed and intelligent decision. So, please, if you want to be counted among the honest people in the country, then maybe you should show at least a minimal commitment to acknowledging the truth.

Posted by: Mark Gillis | September 15, 2008 5:23 AM | Report abuse

RMORROW

Harry Truman never went to college***---but at least he devoured books voraciously. That would suggest a man driven by the pursuit of knowledge. The man you are suggesting he would be deemed inferior to--according to the criteria proposed by the town crier in all CAPS--admittedly doesn't read.

Do you believe THAT or do you admit that YOUR whole argument is worthless?

***(not entirely a true statement, as it were... He wanted to go to Westpoint, his eyesight disqualified him, couldn't afford tuition anywhere else but later studied for two years at the Kansas City School of Law)

Posted by: uriah k | September 15, 2008 6:52 AM | Report abuse

Another Obama puppet writes another gloqwing piece on Obama. You are the reason that Obama will lose this election. You MEDIA people have glorified him too long and we see it and we are sick of it. Stop your racist colukmns and your favoritism and tell the truth . We know you are all so in love with Obama you cannot see straight. You practically destroyed the stronger candidate Hillary Clinton. We have no respect left for most of the media after we saw what they did to Hillary . You will PAY for that come November - we will cross over and vote AGAINST Obama- all because of columnists like you..

Posted by: jimbo | September 15, 2008 7:11 AM | Report abuse

I am done with the Palin fascination....good while it lasted....am safely back in the
Biden camp. What I saw on 2 nights' of (softball) interviews
was enough!

Posted by: LUISITO | September 15, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

....the glow is fading and fast!
we were promised to love her once we got to know her----NOT!

Posted by: elsie | September 15, 2008 7:21 AM | Report abuse

Hello, is anyone in this country even awake? Today's Post front page carries this: "Bush nowhere in picture as Cheney fought to keep surveillance program on track." We don't have to go as far back as Agnew to know what happens when we elect a likeable dope as our President and our nation is actually run by hideous unaccountable shadows.

Posted by: rosaflor | September 15, 2008 7:22 AM | Report abuse

New York Times 9-14 says that Governor Palin hired her high school friend Franci Havemeister, a real estate agent, to be Director of the Alaska State Division of Agriculture. As a qualification for the job, Ms Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows. Oh God. Katrina. Michael Brown, Director of FEMA. Helluva job, Brownie. Old movie. Saw it before.

Posted by: rosaflor | September 15, 2008 7:30 AM | Report abuse

You all talk like it will be such a terrible thing if John McCain did not live through his term. But that's just the liberal media slant. If you were a conservative Christian, like the ones now supporting the McCain/Palin ticket, you will be hoping she does become president.

Posted by: Anne E. | September 15, 2008 7:42 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, but its' not about race, gender or age. IT'S ABOUT INTELLIGENCE. I want the smartest people available running this country. And what the repubs are offering us as their "best and brightest" - a man who graduated 5th from the BOTTOM of his class, and a woman with a journalism degree - are you freakin kidding me?????? Thanks, but no thanks, I'll take the Harvard grad.

Posted by: Common sense | September 15, 2008 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Those ignorant of their nation's history will be surprised to hear that Teddy Roosevelt was in his 2nd year of office as governor of New York when he was tapped as McKinley's VP. The governorship was his first elected position so he had 2 years in public office before becoming VP (he was briefly an assistant secretary of Navy).

Posted by: NickinVA | September 15, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

I also believe its Gods plan. Oh, by the way to yoy darwin believers, you dont have to believe in God even though there is one.

We are in a war against evil, Muslims and Islam. You peace loving yellow bellied pinko muslim loving commie liberal bastards will never see peace until they are biblically eliminated!

After that, there will be peace!

Posted by: Keith | September 15, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

I agree with the nut about god. islam is definately a problem, bigger than the economy and bigger than any other issue we face

Posted by: steve ny | September 15, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

To Pat Nash

Ms. Palin didn't say she sold the plane on Ebay she said "I put in on ebay" quite a difference in words but you only listen to what you want to listen as far as being vetted who vetted Obama and his past, he never been asked a hard question about his associations nor his past with Chicago thugs, please before you make a fool of yourself vett you own candidate before you run your mouth about anyone else, Mr. Hussein Obama promised changed when he was elected in Chicago his district the worse its been in decades, crime, gangs, drop outs and corruptions is the worse so please stop throwing stones at glass houses.

Posted by: Dan Daley | September 15, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

You people in the US are Crazy! What does God and Islam have anything to do with this column? It is amazing how many Americans have such extreme views. I guess John Wayne and Clint Eastwood is the real America.

PS...Thank you US for protecting our nation with your ridicules militery budget,
it enables us to provide free health care and a better education to our citizens. So keep on with the John Wayne mentality!

Posted by: Erin Vancover | September 15, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Colbert,

This is thin sauce. As if President elect Obama is any more (or less) qualified to take office than is Sarah Palin. Indeed.

I am beginning to smell panic among the msm elites. It is dawning on a few of them that they might actually lose out on their planned coronation.

Let's vote.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Nick in VA writes: those ignorant of their nation's history will be surprised to hear that Teddy Roosevelt was in his 2nd year of office as governor of New York when he was tapped as McKinley's VP. The governorship was his first elected position so he had 2 years in public office before becoming VP (he was briefly an assistant secretary of Navy).
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Nick, you don't really want to go there, do you? Roosevelt also graduated magna cum laude from Harvard and then went to Columbia Law School. (Hm, do we know anyone other Harvard magna cum laudes?)

Then, let's see, Battle of San Juan Hill, Rough Riders?

But back to your comparison of the governorship of New York to, uh, that other state? Even in 1900, the state of New York
had over 7,000,000 people as compared with the current Alaska population of under 700,000.

Posted by: Olive | September 15, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

We don't NEED another Agnew.

Posted by: Nancy | September 15, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin is a bad joke that was never funny and has worn out its welcome. The insane/psycho ticket has no chance in November!

Posted by: miknugget | September 15, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Lehman bros just went under, Bear stearns went under;Merril Lynch is no more...AIG on life support....and AMERICA is STILL DEBATING AND CONSIDERING CONTINUING THE PHILOSOPHY of governance that has led us this far into self destruction.?????
What is happening here ? McCain says he is going to continue Bush's economic policies!!!what more do we need to happen before we see the light and take back our country???

Posted by: dave | September 15, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

AGNEW was right about the Far Left. AGNEW said, "Beware of those Democrats, THE EFFETE, NATTERING NABOBS OF NEGATIVISM."

Woe to those who follow the way of the Democrats (the Relativists) in failing to recognize good from evil, right from wrong, virtue from sin.

The Democrats openly and blatantly reject the teaching of most of the Ten Commandments. Obama has torn down the most important wall of all--the wall that separates good from evil, and sin from virtue. Obama is the ultimate Relativist!!! Beware!!!

Posted by: TOMSAIL | September 15, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Git your heads out of the sand you ostrich type people..
stop cutting on your nose to spite your faces, stop shooting yourselves in the feet!....that is what we have done to ourselves these past 8 years.ENOUGH !!!!!
forget about Barack's skin color: he has it in the brain.He actually thinks and reasons and listens.Wake up AMERICA.!ENOUGH is enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: dave | September 15, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

You've had 4 years with Obama and haven't vetted him yet, how dare you say Palin is the least vetted? Use all the smoke and mirrors you want, Obama is still the guy with at most a few months of experience and has NO administrative experience.

Posted by: J K Wilson | September 15, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

The anti-intellectualism in the US astounds me. Palin is an interesting choice, but can conservatives not see she was chosen for political motivations, like Agnew? Pick a woman, to reel in potential disenfranchised Hillary supporters; she's a social conservative, so the evangelicals who have abandoned McCain beforehand will be back in the fold; and she's pretty new, so theres not as much potential grist for the political media mill on past mistakes and controversies.

"Experience" is a nebulous thing. Bush had "executive experience" as Governor of Texas, and you can see how well that worked out. Kennedy didn't - yet he was a great president. Bush Sr didn't, Eisenhower had no political experience at all. Obama's experience is at a grassroots level, and his track record in the Illinois senate is stellar. Campaigning for president started soon after taking office (it had to, as the nomination process started pretty soon after) so no, he doesn't have a huge track record in the US Senate. But he's smart, personable, and able to take complex issues and break it down for everyone to understand - he CONNECTS with people.
I hope you all elect Obama - the man is exactly what your country needs.

Posted by: Brian from Canada | September 15, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

What is being exposed about Palin is a very disturbing pattern of behavior - high-handedness, vendettas against personal and political opponents, and willful twisting of the facts. She's a Machiavellian lizard that must not be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Posted by: Chuck | September 15, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

And we don't want another Carter...

Posted by: rbas1 | September 15, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

What is being exposed about Palin is a very disturbing pattern of behavior - high-handedness, vendettas against personal and political opponents, and willful twisting of the facts. She's a Machiavellian lizard that must not be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Posted by: Chuck | September 15, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Another Agnew? How about another Jimmy Carter?

The election of Barack Hussein Obama as President would be identical to a Jimmy Carter Presidency. Higher taxes for ALL of us, higher inflation for ALL of us and higher unemployment for ALL of us.

Remember Jimmy Carter's "legacy"

24% interest rates on MORTGAGES!!!
18% continuing unemployment
30% tax increases almost across the board!
Near dismantling of our military.
Loss of respect for America throughout the world.
Jimmy Carter singlehandedly allowed the radical Islamist movement to gain power in Iran by not supporting the Shah.
Jimmy Carter is responsible for the rise to power of Radical Islam ... period.

Posted by: Get_Smart | September 15, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: Helen | September 15, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Due to the Internet and cable/satellite, Palin is receiving a public vetting. It's not pretty, but neccessary.
McCain and Obama have been poked and prodded.
Wonder how old Spiro would do?

Posted by: hungrione | September 15, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I just finished reading the latest gossip in the National Enquirer on Sarah Palin. Several questions readily came to my mind:
(1) Why was the vice-presidential nominee picture on the cover of the National Enquirer?
(2) Why were there stories in the National Enquirer about the vice-presidential nominee?
(3) Since there are stories and pictures in the National Enquirer about the vice-presidential nominee, why is that person still on the party’s ticket?
Palin has become the queen of smut, rumors, and innuendoes! Is this the person our nation wants as the next vice-president?

Posted by: National Enquirer | September 15, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I live in India & believe me,most Indians look up to the US for its thought-leadership. But the presidential race seems to have degenerated into a thoughtless Black vs Christian-Rightwing debate. People- stop looking at skin color,sex....look at the person,research yourself,think hard...then vote. May the best person win!

Posted by: shri | September 15, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Look, forget about the jet and the earmarks...forget about the experience questions. Forget about seeing Russia as evidence of worldliness and intelligence.

Those of you who "like" Palin and will defend her at any cost ought to know that in Alaska, she promised us transparent government and accountability. She supported a bipartisan investigation (initiated by a Republican-led Legislature) into whether she abused her power in Troopergate and said she'd fully cooperate. She said no one in her administration pressured anyone else to fire Trooper Wooten just because she's on a vendetta.

She lied.

A recorded conversation from one of her staff to a trooper turned up saying otherwise. As soon as she was nominated, she stopped cooperating with the legislature. She lawyered up, and so did Todd. She's refused to turn over 1100 official emails (some copied to Todd, private citizen) based on executive privilege. People who said they'd cooperate with the investigator suddenly refused to be interviewed. The McCain campaign is suddenly in charge of her gubernatorial and legal affairs, and they are mucking around in our state's business. (Which is now your business.)

She tried an end run around the legislature by filing an ethics complaint AGAINST HERSELF with the personnel board (appointed by governors) and then argued she doesn't have to talk to the legislature. Todd Palin and 11 others have been subpoenaed by the legislature.

And she's bailed out on us for the next 50 days. Gee, I wonder if she'll ever "cooperate" before the election.

This is not about the trooper. This is now about abuse of power and a cover-up. Does that sound like change to you? Does that sound like a "reformer" and a "maverick"?

Or does that sound a lot like the last eight years?

Don't take my word for it. Read the stories at www.adn.com.

But please, don't just shut your eyes and vote based on an image, not the reality.

Posted by: Bixby | September 15, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Not another Agnew you say....but I guess it was OK for the Dems to nominate Ferror under Mondale - that was applauded by both the NYT and WAPO.....talk of a double standard.

Here's one.....

How about not another "CARTER"......

Posted by: John | September 15, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

It appears that the LA Times is the only place information about John McCain's denunciation of three of Palin's pork projects will be published.

While McCain was trying to eliminate earmarks, the Mayor of Wassila was defending and soliciting them.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-earmarks3-2008sep03,0,284198.story


Since some of the projects weren't even desireable to the community, one can't help wondering which chum would have benefited from getting these contracts.

Posted by: Mom | September 15, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

We are having a global financial meltdown. Would you put Palin in charge of Merrill Lynch? OK, then why would you put her in charge of the USA? Or should we be focused on lipstick?

Posted by: Robert Cannon | September 15, 2008 1:03 AM

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Then why would you place BO at the presidency as he is only going to add to the woes of Businesses by taxing the hell out of them ?????????

Posted by: John | September 15, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I just want to say that as a conservative ( A REAL ONE NOT SOME FAKE HACK ON THIS BLOG) McCain may win, and if he does, it will be the biggest sell out in our parties history. As a conservative, my loyalty is with COUNTRY and then party so with the war in Iraq (dems want to bail) the war in afghanastan (dems want to leave) we are losing and I just can't seem to understand Palins pick. We need Mccains strong leadership when confronting these world leaders and if something happens to him, I just can't see them taking Palin seriously. He in an attempt to win the race, has put our COUNTRY at risk! I like Palin, she is a great story and good mother and all but people, let's shake this dem over repub hat and look at this for WHAT THIS MEANS. She is just not ready for what is ahead for this country. There isn't one person on here that can question my republican loyaty, it's because I'm a loyal republican that I'm saying this! Don't get happy dems, I'm not giving you a pass for your pick either. We can a million things about them but at this moment, she will cause us to lose and maybe it's a good idea. I'm not happy about his pick, I'm not voting dem FOR SURE but this pick, he wasted in my opinion and if he does win, I fear we the american people lose.

Posted by: republicanvotingforobama | September 15, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Oh, is Baby Colbert crying because he wasn't part of the vetting process. BOO HOO!

Too bad. The American people will vet with their votes. If there were any justice in the world, you'd be vetted out of a job.

Posted by: Chiang Kai Shrek | September 15, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

As you are very obviously an Obama supporter-Just to remind you not we but the people do not want another Jimmy Carter as the President.

Posted by: JRP | September 15, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Neither McCain nor Palin are Mulim or Catholic, that is what matters. They are both Christians

Posted by: Jennifer | September 15, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

all one has to do is go to the front page of today's washpo to get an idea of the kind of criminal, traitorous activities that cheney has overseen while his more bumbling idiot of a partner stayed in the dark, to get an inkling of what a tragic, stupid error it would be to vote for palin/mccain. it makes me sick to my stomach that once again americans seem to be burying their heads in the sand, paying attention to ludicrous "issues" like lipstick on a pig, while our constitution is shredded, or economy lies in shambles, and while our military is thrown to the wolves. the republican party has been a DISASTER for this nation, and citizens voting to return these shameless criminals to power should have their heads examined.

Posted by: Manny | September 15, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

The issue that bothers me the most is not who Palin is but the fact that the media has not been allowed to question her. We are being asked to buy a pig in a poke. If this comes to pass, the real power will be in the hands of an *unelected* group of people with resources to put forward a candidate who looks and can act right for the part but is otherwise unqualified. *This* is the real danger, this subversion of a relatively open and fair system. And the danger is for all of us, regardless of which party we like.

Questions of competence, ideology, experience, judgement do matter very much but without open access to candidates, without asking probing questions and hearing their responses we do not get an honest picture. I am sure everyone wants "their" candidate to win but I hope they demand that their candidate is thoroughly vetted, by a detailed loot at their past record, and by the media and people through debates, discussions and public meetings.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I just want to say that as a conservative ( A REAL ONE NOT SOME FAKE HACK ON THIS BLOG) McCain may win, and if he does, it will be the biggest sell out in our parties history. As a conservative, my loyalty is with COUNTRY and then party so with the war in Iraq (dems want to bail) the war in afghanastan (dems want to leave) we are losing and I just can't seem to understand Palins pick. We need Mccains strong leadership when confronting these world leaders and if something happens to him, I just can't see them taking Palin seriously. He in an attempt to win the race, has put our COUNTRY at risk! I like Palin, she is a great story and good mother and all but people, let's shake this dem over repub hat and look at this for WHAT THIS MEANS. She is just not ready for what is ahead for this country. There isn't one person on here that can question my republican loyaty, it's because I'm a loyal republican that I'm saying this! Don't get happy dems, I'm not giving you a pass for your pick either. We can a million things about them but at this moment, she will cause us to lose and maybe it's a good idea. I'm not happy about his pick, I'm not voting dem FOR SURE but this pick, he wasted in my opinion and if he does win, I fear we the american people lose.

Posted by: republicanvotingforobama | September 15, 2008 11:17 AM

I just want to say, I respect you greatly for thinking of your identity of an American first, and your identity as a Republican second. I, too, am a Republican and will be voting for Obama for many of the same reasons. I just think that McCain's choice was such a sell-out, and I'm terrified that he would be so cavalier with the future of our country! We don't need more games, charades, and lies. We need the old republican party back! And the only way for that to happen is if we tell vote the BAD APPLES out, so they get the message that they need to become the good party they once were.

Posted by: Surin | September 15, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

We are being asked to buy a pig in a poke.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 11:59 AM

Careful! Wouldn't want the McCain campaign to accuse you of "sexism" because you used the word "pig" in a sentence!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I also believe its Gods plan. Oh, by the way to yoy darwin believers, you dont have to believe in God even though there is one.

We are in a war against evil, Muslims and Islam. You peace loving yellow bellied pinko muslim loving commie liberal bastards will never see peace until they are biblically eliminated!

After that, there will be peace!

Posted by: Keith | September 15, 2008 8:43 AM
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Would you be so kind as to tell all us inquiring souls which church you attend?

Posted by: abqcleve | September 15, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I guess there is is always you all can find to critize there people, right, now what else?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I guess there is is always you all can find to critize there people, right, now what else?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I just want to say, I respect you greatly for thinking of your identity of an American first, and your identity as a Republican second. I, too, am a Republican and will be voting for Obama for many of the same reasons. I just think that McCain's choice was such a sell-out, and I'm terrified that he would be so cavalier with the future of our country! We don't need more games, charades, and lies. We need the old republican party back! And the only way for that to happen is if we tell vote the BAD APPLES out, so they get the message that they need to become the good party they once were.

Posted by: Surin | September 15, 2008 12:00 PM
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I am a life-long Democrat who really respects what you and several others have said. Like yours, my party has had to go through periodic resetting to slough off the bad actors and recapture the vision. We have a number of bad actors in the Democratic party now, but the good ones--the Obamas and the Bingamans and the Udalls of the party appear to be gaining ascendency. I have voted for Republican candidates in the past if I thought they were intellectually and politically better for America: I regularly voted for Domenici, for example, even though I disagreed with some of his views pretty strongly.

Your important point should not be lost in this discussion: we must all vote for America, not for party. McCain sold out his principles all year, only capping it off at the convention with his naming Palin his running mate.

Posted by: abqcleve | September 15, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

We are being asked to buy a pig in a poke.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 11:59 AM

Careful! Wouldn't want the McCain campaign to accuse you of "sexism" because you used the word "pig" in a sentence!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 12:02 PM

They are the ones putting lipstick on a pig in a poke and calling her a hockey mom! But all joking aside, what do you think of the real issue?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I agree-- there are some disturbing Nixonian parallels at work here, not least of which is Palin's secretive governing style (remind us of anyone?) and vindictive nature toward those she deems her political enemies.
She would embody the worst traits of Nixon and W if brought into office... and we can't rely on a vigilant press or honorable criminal justice system to remove her if serious crimes were discovered.
The solution is a simple one: don't vote for her.

Posted by: DB | September 15, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I also believe its Gods plan. Oh, by the way to yoy darwin believers, you dont have to believe in God even though there is one.

We are in a war against evil, Muslims and Islam. You peace loving yellow bellied pinko muslim loving commie liberal bastards will never see peace until they are biblically eliminated!

After that, there will be peace!

Posted by: Keith | September 15, 2008 8:43 AM
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Would you be so kind as to tell all us inquiring souls which church you attend?

Posted by: abqcleve | September 15, 2008 12:05 PM
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Wow.
Is this Christianity?
Jesus would be horrified. What happened to turn the other cheek? Love thy neighbor? What happened to do unto others as they would do unto you (something we heathens call the Golden Rule)?
Keith sounds like he got his version of Christianity from Satan's press office.
A worse endorsement of the religion-- not to mention the bedrock ideas of tolerance and acceptance upon which the nation was founded-- would be hard to find.
It's hard to understand what people like Keith think America is.
Wow. Talk about your intolerant, small-minded and venomous hatemongers.
I'd like to know what church this is, too, so there can be a news special on it. People who are real Christians should know what's being spewed in the name of our common faith.

Posted by: DB | September 15, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh, is Baby Colbert crying because he wasn't part of the vetting process. BOO HOO!

Too bad. The American people will vet with their votes. If there were any justice in the world, you'd be vetted out of a job.

Posted by: Chiang Kai Shrek | September 15, 2008 11:17 AM
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"vet with their votes"? Seriously?
That is about the dumbest thing I've heard on these boards, and there are a LOT of dumb things said here.
If you have no idea what a person stands for, your vote is cast in absolute ignorance (which I suspect is your usual state, Chiang Kai).
It is the duty of our press to explore and explain who these people are, so that the rest of us (who don't feel like voting blind) can have some idea who we want to be in our highest office.
"vet with their votes"-- sheesh.
If there were any justice, you'd have an IQ above room temperature.

Posted by: DB | September 15, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

They are the ones putting lipstick on a pig in a poke and calling her a hockey mom! But all joking aside, what do you think of the real issue?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 12:13 PM

I think that the republican party is stuffed to the gills with deceptive people. The only option is to "throw the bums out." Eventually they'll get their act together again. But I'm not going to vote for a party that lies and then turns around and runs into its lies and then has to lie more to get out of the mess its lies created in the first place!

As for the lipstick comment, I have one thing to say:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card

I love how sexism didn't exist when HRC was running, but it's a SERIOUS PROBLEM now. Yuck.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Democrat for McCain/Palin:

Please refer to God's plan's post, or better yet, don't vote this year because you're not a democrat and you shouldn't have the privilege.

Posted by: r u serious? | September 15, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin is closer to being George W. Bush in a skirt than she is to being Spiro Agnew.

Richard Nixon never wanted a Vice President who would have a major substantive role in the government, reasoning -- as all Presidents up to that time had -- that one President at a time was enough. Like it or not (I don't) the role of the Vice Presidency has changed since then.

The last two Vice Presidents have had very substantial, though not publicly defined, roles in various areas of policy. Say what you want about Al Gore and Dick Cheney, but they were both knowledgable, experienced people. Palin is neither. She is wholly ignorant of large areas of policy -- any policy, not just international affairs.

She has gotten all the Republicans who think George W. Bush has been a great President excited, because she brings to the table exactly what he did, a public contempt for liberals and the media. That's it. That's the only thing there. Well, that and the skirt.

Posted by: Zathras | September 15, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Hey, you should wear an aluminum foil hat, God's Plan. Hearing voices isn't normal. :)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I am not worried about Palin because her blatant lack of knowledge about foreign affairs/geopolitics, tax policies, economics, Bush Doctrine (a.k.a. Cowboy Diplomacy), the overextension of the executive branch, et cetera, will most certainly show through during the vice presidental debate. Why don't we let a pitbull with lipstick go up against a real pitbull (who may or may not wear lipstick).

Posted by: Switters | September 15, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, you support Barrack Hussein Obama. If you could be just a little more subtle your article would be more fair and less partisan. Vote McCain/Palin for real change, not the cheap, untested variety the Dem's are offering!

Posted by: Phil2560 | September 15, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Ted Land (907) 762-9269 of KTUU TV an NBC affiliate in Alaska who did the news story of a hugh rally in Alaska against Sarah Palin. I told him that I was amazed that none of the networks carried or asked for any of the footage. He said that he was just as amazed as I was especially when NBC did not request any footage. He also said that CNN was there. I told him the only story that I heard concerning a protest on CNN was about Oprah. What's going on here folks? I found out about the story at KTTU.COM There are a lot of people especially women, democrats and republicans unlike who disagreeD with Palin and thinks she's dangerous for the country. The protest started with 8 to 10 women sitting around realizing that Palin doesn't represent them. A nasty radio host broadcast their names over the airways and others tried to stop the rally. It was big news in Alaska and you can see the story on KTTU.COM website. This goes to show you that Rick Davis has far reaching arms. Palin will be hidden from the legit media as well as any negative press. Alaska is a small community so there will be some backlash but still these people weren't afraid to speak out. What happen to our press coverage here about the protest IN ALASKA. CALL TED AND ASK HIM ABOUT THE STORY

Posted by: NBC, CNN NEVER AIRED THE PROTEST | September 15, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

The problems with this debate I believe are the interpretation of God’s plan. Obama’s fans know that God’s plan is OBAMA. I’m just going to quote what our fearful leader Ms. Pelosi said about our Messiah:
"a leader that God has blessed us with at this time."
I just can wait what the bloggers would say when Ms. Palin declares something like this about McCain…..is going to be so much fun to read them.

Posted by: rbas1 | September 15, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Not partisan at all, but objective. If half the stuff the "National Enquirer" has published in the last two issues about the Palins is true then we've got a remake of Jerry Springer. Normally don't trust that "rag", but they were "dead on" about Edwards and followed it for months.

Palin is fine if she's on a script period. Other than that we haven't a clue other than the ABC interview during which she said almost nothing about how she'd govern if the unthinkable should happen.

For American and for the world, the best thing that happens is that Palin fades into the sunset and comes back 20 years later like Ferraro did.

Posted by: No Mooseburger | September 15, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Wow - a great column that has elicited a huge response. My 2 cents. Vet away - all the candidates. Interview away - if the GOP will allow it of course. Bring on the debates - and don't let sound bites fool the real message. But most of all, as someone who actually wrote in McCain 8 years ago because I could not bear to vote for either candidate - watch the old footage, see who McCain used to be and who he has turned into in order to gain the highest office - someone who put ambition over country by picking a poor choice for VP; and tries to justify it with lies - both about her and about Obama. I fear for our country, I really do - in the worst financial crisis in, perhaps, our entire history, and he still said today that "our economy is sound" (and then went on to contridict himself).

Posted by: SciGirl840 | September 15, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin should stay in Alaska, where she can see Russia on a clear day.

Posted by: Marcaurelius | September 15, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Hats off to the people who put country before party. I have voted dem. rep. and independent depending strictly on who I felt would be best for our country (not just for me and my interests)and also considering the current situation in the US. Those votes were also based on considerable research into the actual facts about the candidates not just a bunch of half (or no) truths. I urge you to do the same. We can't afford to get it wrong this time. Please stop bickering (like a bunch of politicians) and act like true AMERICANS.

Posted by: Jack Brown | September 15, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm with the nut "Keith" (September 15, 2008 8:43 AM).

I hope "God's plan" does manifest itself -let the religious wackos on our side and the religious wackos on their side kill each other. Then maybe, the rest of us REASONABLE people can finally live in peace.

Posted by: Hector | September 15, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama hits back? What has he and his been doing since June, 2008? ATTACK. ATTACK.

Who made up the ridiculous McBush bull? OBAMA
Who made up the old man McCain bull? OBAMA
Who has been attacking Palin since the day she was annouced as McCain's running mate? OBAMA
Who contacts the media about the "Cheney choosing Palin" story. NOT TRUE OBAMA
Who contacted the media about Palin's daughter's pregnancy? OBAMA
Who contacted the media about Palin having an affair? NOT TRUE OBAMA
Who contacted the media about Palin being a member of a far right political party? NOT TRUE OBAMA
Who has been tossing out dirty tricks, trash and lies for the past four months? OBAMA

It is interesting to read the opinion pieces in the Post, New York Times and the Los Angeles Times, along with other OBAMA FOR President orgainizations.

ALmost nothing about the lies and deceptions by OBAMA and his is written about. If he told the truth he would tell the American voters the following:

"I WILL BRING ABOUT THE FOLLOWING CHANGE:

1. Increase taxes.
2 Increased federal regulations, programs and costs.
3. Increase the costs of Social Security to the higher wage earners above $100,000 annually, while establishing a "needs" test so that only those determined by the government to receive the SSB, even if they do not pay into it.
4. Add justices that will "interpret" the "living" US Consitution to fit today's needs.
5. Add "sexual orientation" to the protected classes in the Civil Rights Act so that they can sue anyone who they believe offends them.
6. Add "sexual orientation" ( homosexual, bisexual and transgender ) to the hate speech legislation to allow them to sue anyone who does not agree with their behavior.
7. Adopt legislation which will protect persons who abort (kill their child) up until the time the child is completely out of the uterus.
8. Pass legislation which will direct the US Department of Education and the States to teach sex education from kindergarten and up which encourages the Planned Parenthood approach, which is use birth control tools.

You will not hear this from OBAMA and the Democrats because they know that they would lose in November if the American voter knew the real change they have in store for them.

Posted by: rljmsilver | September 15, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

The shine is coming of the Alaskan PitBull really quickly now, isn't it? Didn't take too long. Within a couple of weeks, her only supporters will be the increasingly loud, angry and desperate Repug faithful. That's because it will become increasingly obvious that she is just Cheney in lipstick.

Posted by: jake d. | September 15, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

My uncle once returned from his one and only moose hunting trip to Maine. He was embarrassed by what he had done. He said that the moose just stood there like a cow would, and waited to be shot. Like hitting the broad side of a barn. My uncle was a dairy farmer and wasn't just speculating on the comparison. That is just the kind of sports person we do not need in Washington.

Posted by: J Lauber | September 15, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Not only can we compare Palin to Agnew a, has has been shown, but it seems we can compare that John McCain to that al time great liar, Nixon, too!

Posted by: J Lauber | September 15, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

How about vetting Sen. McCain?

The man ditched his first wife and his military career to marry into an organized crime family and then used that Hensley-Marley-Lansky network and fortune to launch a career in politics.

I, for one, am absolutely astounded that the press, with the exception of a couple of Frank Rich op-ed pieces in the NYT, has given McCain a free press on that.

Beyond being astounded, I'm f'ing pissed off. The WaPo needs to weigh in on that.

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 15, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Governor Palin's fitness for national officer: During my Army career and during my career in Public Administration, I learned the truth of the old phrase, "show me how a person handles power and authority over others, and I will show you the person." By that standard, Governor Palin is not fit for national office.

Posted by: Tom Cannon | September 15, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

By the GOP standards of experience, Palin has more than McCain,. Perhaps she should be a top rather than a bottom. I guess I would vote Republican. After all, I doubt that Biden can see Europe from R.I., or that Obama can see Canada from Chicago. (maybe) But I know for sure that Russia can be seen from Alaska and Mexico can be seen from Arizona!!

Posted by: J Lauber | September 15, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Excuse the mistake. Biden probably can't see R.I. from Delaware. Palin can see both Canada and Russia from Alaska. But Biden can't see europe from Delaware either. And although John McCain can't see Canada, he probably has not watched much hockey. And what kind of hockey mom would actually move her kids to a place like D.C., where scholastic hockey is practically non-existent? Oh, that's right. Home schooled hockey!!!

Posted by: J Lauber | September 15, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

wow, quite a few comments here. this election's going to be a doozy. another 50-50 split. will all be sitting around election night praying that the 100 to 200 thousand voters left in ohio have had it with modern day republicanism (loosely defined as stoking religious fires in close-minded religious folks to get votes). Hey I know. I'm from Kansas and I attend baptist church. a vote against republicans is a vote against god in their minds. it's crazy. almost fanatical. everyone could be unemployed and in complete mizery and they would still vote for a republican.

Posted by: victor | September 15, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

As a Republican of many years, I am disgusted with the entire Party. To now see the grey haired balding guys come to the aid of Sarah (Hail Mary) Palin is as big a lie as hell. I know they choked on their morning cofee when they read the newspaper. He Did What??? That Jackass!! I know that the local party here in the NATI, and the National Party for that matter, always thought that John McCain was a NUT!!! Do anyone remember the Bush ads from Year 2000!

Every 4 years the Republicans run out the same can of FEAR wrapped in the American Flag and the Majority of America swallow it without chewing. For the McCain camp to include the 9/11 replay in the party convention says what? If you don't vote for us this could happen again? Was it not the Republican's policy of a smaller government responsible for it happening in the 1st place.

No Oversight and Incompetent Leadership:
1. CIA leadership
2. FBI Leadership
3. FEMA & Homeland Security Leadership
4. Justice Department Leadership
5. FDA Leadership
6. Treasury Department Leadership

And the most important Rope-A-Dope:

While we were distracted by the IRAQ war they sold this Country right out from under us.

What happens when China and Saudi calls our mark?

Bottom line when Bill Clinton (Even though I did not vote for him) was in Office my 401K made me rich. After 8 years of Jr. I will be working until I am 80. Not only is my 401K worthless; but the SOB's who took my money got booted out with $125 Million each.

I asked you? Do the Republicans deserve your vote?

Posted by: Will-I-AM of Cinti | September 15, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Last I heard, Sarah Palin hasn't been convicted of any crime, other than being a Republican conservative. Just keep beating it to death, Mr. King; that's exactly what the Republicans want.

Posted by: rmpatera | September 15, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

rmpatera: If only being a Republican conservative were a crime that was actually convictable, America would have far fewer cold, heartless criminals running free.

Posted by: J Lauber | September 15, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

"The "fluff" is what we have been getting from Obama for months." ... Your motives are obvious.

Posted by: Democrat for McCain/Palin

No, it's YOUR motives that are obvious. First off, you're a liar. Anyone following the campaign knows that Obama's taken hits for his friends, his friends' friends, his acquaintances, his acquaintances' acquaintances. He's been attacked for the words of religious clerics whose patriotism is unquestioned, one having been a Marine, and whose right to dissent was earned many times over. The hits from the right-wing press have been obvious and odious, and the backlash from the perceived "favoritism" he received dwarfs anything McCain has experienced, despite McCain's bald-faced lies, distortions and major gaffes. Second, if you think McCain-Palin is an effective, honest, and promising team, you're an imbecile. McCain thinks the economy is sound, and Palin's foreign-policy expertise is that if you go to the extreme edge of her state you can see Russia. You must be a fifth columnist to want the U.S. to fall so hard.

Posted by: edwcorey | September 15, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Apostles of Obama, get your heads out of the sand. The liberals editorializing in this paper, and the sheep that blindly follow will be the destruction of our country. I'd prefer to have one more criminal illegal immigrant here for each of you that they replace.

Posted by: R. F. Raby | September 15, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Interesting that you point to Agnew in comparison to Palin. When her nomination was announced, I believed that Palin was the least experienced VP candidate since Agnew. I now know that Agnew was much better qualified than Palin.

McCain/Palin, what a pair!! Their words and deeds don't match. They say they are for women yet oppose the Ledbetter Equal Pay Act. They say they are for veterans yet they oppose the expansion of GI educational benefits for veterans. The list goes on and on.

Posted by: LPLT | September 15, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

I guess the media have been just too busy the last few months to investigate Obama and his Chicago connections. Wouldn't want to reveal any dirt there, would we?

Posted by: Anne4 | September 15, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

We have had eight years of an administration that catered to only those, approximately 51% that voted it in. I for one can not take four more years of the same. How is standing with Bush on 8 vetoes of the peoples will, (taxation without representation?) how is that reaching across the isle in a bi-partisan manner? George Washington refused to be made king. The executive branch should relearn its place among the checks and balances of the 3 branches of government.

Posted by: J Lauber | September 15, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Reading most of the blog offerings has left me with the impression that most of the people that have an opinion are focused on their own narrow self interests. It is my narrow self interested opinion that what this country needs is a president that is intelligent enough to understand that our country's problems are complex and nuanced. There is only one candidate that has shown this and I think that most people know who that is.

Posted by: J.V.Wallace | September 15, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

If all reference to party or candidate were removed, it would still be easy to tell who is a Republican and who is a Democrat by reading their blog entries.

Posted by: J. W. | September 15, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

.....except in this case, McCain/Palin supporters would be very happy with Palin's succession and the people did not want to entertain the prospect of Agnew instead of Nixon.....Heck, someone may say that "God told them to do it....."

This is a disaster anyway you look at it.

Republicans are not voting for McCain; they are voting for Palin and it seems anyone else considering a vote for Republicans are doing the same.

Someone needs to publish a comprehensive list of all the discrepancies and facts about her record. Every day something drips out like a dripping faucet and it does not reach enough people. Since she will not "meet the press" on her own, the press needs to publish this comprehensive list of facts, rumors, and other such stuff. If she doesn't like it, she should respond, not the campaign manager calling "foul". She is looking more and more like a ditz, like a parody of herself; every stump appearance is like a SNL skit. Today, she says, she will be in charge of "Security, Energy, and, I forget what." I nearly choked on my coffee.

Part of me just cannot believe they will be successful in November. Another part of me knows that another election brought us GW Bush.

If the extent of her campaigning is what it is now, the press should not bother covering her appearances. If the McCain campaign continues to lie and distort and repeat lie after lie even after it has been debunked, his campaign should not be covered. The press is working very hard to inform us and to clarify.

Posted by: TJW | September 15, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Interesting points about previous VP picks. I usually regard the picks of unknowns as disasters ( Tom Eagleton, Dan Quayle ) but I forgot that sometimes it's a case of shred calculation - Agnew was forty years ago now was a different kind of disaster.

No analogy is perfect of course, but worth thinking about. There's been so many comparisons of Palin to Dubya, Ronald Reagan. I lean much more to her being a potential Dubya, with my overactive mind imagining that the right wingers will want to put McCain out to pasture once he's in the White House. The Republicans still don't trust him and he could end up going into the hospital for check ups and tests and evaluations until he becomes irrelevant.

Another historical figure I find interesting comparisons with Palin is Andrew Jackson. Jackson promoted "Reform" in government by throwing out everyone already working in Washington and replacing them with his own friends. Just the fact that the Spoils system cleaned house was enough justification for claiming to be a reformer. Palin did the same in Alaska by firing the insiders in the Alaskan state government and replacing them with friends from her high school and her church. The NYTimes had a story that said Palin's high school yearbook is practically a directory of who's who in the Alaska state gov't.

Palin's populist, common man approach is Jacksonian Democracy for the 21st century.

Posted by: John | September 15, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Come on Mr. King, you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Sarah hasn't broken any laws, she is accused of over reaching her authority not of taking bribes. She fired the Alaskan Public Safety Commissioner- which was her right to do. He said she did it because he refused to fire her brother in law, state trooper Wooten, who is a real scum bag and should have been fired. She denies it. And at this point it looks like Alaska will not be issuing any subpoenas. So that is that. What did we learn? We learned that Sarah isn't intimidated by big bad men who are powerful in State politics. She has spunk and isn't afraid of anyone. Sounds like great credentials to me. That kind of spunk and strength will stand well for her in Washington.

Posted by: Edward Reinhart | September 15, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

JLauber
Think Repubs are heartless? Vote them out.
The day we start criminalizing freedom of political expression because someone like you doesn't like it is the day we are no longer free, period.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 16, 2008 6:59 AM | Report abuse

anonymous: I was not the one that brought up criminalization. I was speaking hypothetically, and in my observance,Republicans, especially conservatives do not care about people who don't share their views. But, most people, Republicans and Democrats are only out for themselves. Just exercising my own right to free speech and I will of course try and vote them out. Thanks for your permission. At least I still have that right.

Posted by: J Lauber | September 16, 2008 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Interesting. Idealogues in general don't care much for others' views. Scoring philosophical and political points are much more important to them. When that fails, there's always name calling. My comment was meant to point out that demonizing Sarah Palin is pointless and it could backfire if overdone. This is especially true considering the news from Wall Street. Those still slamming McCain's choice now are starting to look like someone who's spreading rat poison to kill the squirrel in the attic while their house is on fire. The economy is a much better issue to win on.

Posted by: rmpatera | September 16, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

rmpatera:
I agree wholeheartedly and at least we aren't talking about cosmetics anymore. I used to like to watch the show "Maverick" because of its sense of humor. There is absolutely nothing funny about these neo-mavericks that want to roost on Pennsylvania Avenue! If it all goes south, McCain has houses to share with Palin and her brood.

Posted by: J Lauber | September 16, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Opra As VP

If the Republicans ran a Black American from
Alaska for the VP slot would there be the same
destructive ridicule from you Colbert? As a Democrat
( yes ) and a boy from the Bronx, I see a connected by
the media to destroy persons running for office, and
that is going to turn away many people, like myself,
from Senator Obama.

And Colbert, how are you going to cover Senator
Obama and Democrats, like Schumer, Dodd, Emanuel
and Frank for the Wall Street loss which you and I
are going to pay for?


Posted by: 3rd-Party Advocate | September 16, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

J Lauber
Agreed. Much as I hate to admit it, I do find it amusing that some Wall Steet fat cats are getting skinned right now. Too bad we'll all suffer with them. A President Obama will have his work cut out. As for John & Cindy McCain, good luck in private life, though even they might end up having to rent one or more of their houses to the Palins.

Posted by: rmpatera | September 16, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

The Whole question of what is our business and what is not is very interesting! Weren't we supposed to just put up and shut up when they told of there were weapons of Mass destruction in Iraq? Weren't those who questioned it called treators or not quite American?

I shared thoughts about oil on another bulletin board right after 9/11 implying that if we were not so dependent, none of this might have happened. I was almost literally boo'ed off the board. Today it's commonly accepted that we need to be less dependent on foreign oil!!

Today I am reeling from the third bail-out of corporate America in a very short time. Bear Sterns, Freddie Mac/FAnnie Mae and now AIG!! Did anyone ask me what I thought? Would anyone care to know that I think we should be bailing out mortgage holders who were misled about their ability to pay for mortgages and are now losing homes. Would not this have the same effect except that we would be keeping people IN their houses instead of bankers IN their banks? Would it have cost the American taxpayer more? Would you begrudge your neighbor the right to keep his/her house rather than pay for some big wig's financial errors? I would much rather see my tax dollars going to some little guy/gal down the street; rather than keeping some big company solvent! We could save the homes AND keep the companies solvent all in one stroke!! But did anyone care what I (or you) thought about this? NO!! Is it any of our business how this crisis was resolved? NO! Just pay your taxes and stop whining!! I don't know about YOU, but I'm mad a HELL and soon I may not take it any more!

Posted by: cokids | September 17, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

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