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It is possible to criticize one side without endorsing the other, right?

Just to keep things in perspective, take a glance at this vision of our future in Obamaland. All those who find Christian camps terrifying, brace yourselves.

By Kathleen Parker  | September 30, 2008; 5:28 PM ET
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"It is possible to criticize one side without endorsing the other, right?"

Those of us who opposed the war in Iraq, were branded terrorist sympathizers, so I'm guessing is that the answer to your question is 'No'.

Posted by: BruddahChrispy | September 30, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Uh, so what's the point?

Posted by: itsagreatday1 | September 30, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I always thought child abuse and exploitation was bad, but, forcing these little blond girls to sin seems to be enjoyed by one and all. Too bad they are being taught to be atheists.

Posted by: mgmorrell | September 30, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Okay, well -- just for openers, the first screen says this is at "a neighbor's house" in Venice, CA. But it's clearly in a school library or something of the sort.
And the songs are upbeat and positive, give them that! No enemies identified or even suggested!

Posted by: lmmaloney | September 30, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it's some dippy pickup children's choir in California, probably full of Unitarians and Quakers and god knows what horrid peacenik main line Protestant denominations--oh, and the sign language and flute and drums and someone's bad campaign song, oh, no!

I'd much rather watch people gibbering and rolling on the floor and being exorcised, wouldn't you?

Guess what? Only one of these thinks the whole world should think and behave exactly as they do, and it's not the cute little kids in blue.

Posted by: calcyon | September 30, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it is cynical to chastise one segment of the population, but this video is not representative of most Obama supporters.

I would suggest you look at those played in North Korea or Myramar (Burma), Russia, etc.

Either way at least these kids do not preach the gospel and then say bomb another nation. And these kids did not talk about abortion as if it is the only decision to choose a candidate.

So thanks for the cute video showing kids singing in a small room and not in a large church.

Posted by: jrubin1 | September 30, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Ok Kathlene - I'll give you this one. It's California weird. Unless... this is a hoax by some right-wing group trying to discredit Obama supporters.

Are you happy now? I don't trust anyone anymore!

Posted by: Neal3 | September 30, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Uh, other than being dippy and dull, what's wrong with this exactly? There isn't the slightest hint of brainwashing or coercion. I do understand how it galls you "people" to have to watch attractive, (mostly) white preteens freely supporting the scary black guy. The fact that Ms. Palin was too much even for you to stomach buys you very little. You're still a pathetic twerp, like the rest of your crypto-fascist ilk.

Posted by: Phida50 | September 30, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I LOVE this video. Finally children are being taught the TRUTH. Too bad Christian/Fascists are upset at this. But since Christianity is just another myth, what do you expect. Hooray for this, whoever the group is that's teaching these kids, they deserve medals.

Posted by: republicanseattheirdead | September 30, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

This is beautiful. For too long fascists have been perverting young kids. It's great to see true blue American democrats teaching their children what it really means to love our country. Kathleen - stick it where the sun don't shine you America hater.

Posted by: halmin | September 30, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Yes, brainwashing children is a virtuous and highly benevolent act when it's done for the RIGHT reasons.

Children are not pets or toys.

And yes, these are the guys I'm voting for.

Regrettably, this does not mean I can answer for the throwbacks in my own party, any more than I can the GOP.

Posted by: maxbell | September 30, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Oh HELL YES! That's what I'm talking about.
To hell with that nick-nack-paddywhack crap.
Forget about Skitamarinkadink a dink.....
Kumbahyah? - Fuggedaboutit.....
You get some rightwing kooks and do up a fake piece of propaganda like this.......

Posted by: Tomcat3 | September 30, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

While you're at it, find some unedited footage of all those children we murdered with our PREDATOR DRONES over there in Afghanistan AND THEN LIED AND LIED AND LIED about it.
Aided and abetted by none other that the Uber-Hero-Criminal Oliver North.
All of you right-wing sonsofBEEs are going to burn in hell.
That's why JESUS is for sure a MYTH. A myth made up to assuage your fears of damnation for the sins you commit.
Those sins are NOT FORGIVEN despite what you bribe your theologians to "TELL" you.
SOME THINGS ARE NOT FORGIVEN. The sins we have committed in the name of God/Jesus/Allah or any other bullsh*t pseudo-myth are not forgiven.
Better run wash your hands.....wash your hands......wash your hands......wash your hands......

Posted by: Tomcat3 | September 30, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I have nooo problem with Bible camp for children.

As a kid, my unchurched parents couldn't afford summer camp so sent me to free Bible School every summer, which is like day camp for grades 1-6. I LOVED it for the cool crafts we made. There was no religious instruction, except innocuous songs like "Jesus loves me".

What discomforts me are adults that have childlike faith in this thing called God made in their image, which they imagine speaks to them. Spooky.

Posted by: jhbyer | September 30, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm an avid Obama supporter. This video really offends me, too. I don't think that it was put out by his campaign, just some idiot supporters.

Imagine the time and effort that they put into the song & coaching the children. Couldn't they have spent their time on something else? My daughter's a huge Obama fan, but she'd roll her eyes at this. This is idolatry & I don't think a lot of us Obama supporters feel this reflects our hope that Obama will become president, not God. We know he's a person, not a super-human being & we hope that if elected he will actually be able to do what he says he wants to do. He's not off the hook.

I hope his campaign will send a cease and desist order to the perpetrators of this drivel. It's embarrassing.

Posted by: rubytoes | September 30, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Why are so many people on this thread so angry? Why do so many put religion into this video? Aside from using Obama's name, what seems to be the problem with kids singing a sophomoric song about having hope to change the world into a better place? Should we teach them to sing "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran?"

Is there something unAmerican about having hope for peace and progress and prosperity? (Eisenhower of the GOP's slogan btw)

And why did Calcyon, above, make derisive comments about Quakers and Unitarians? Is there something wrong with being inclusive of others, promoting peace and tolerance and fighting to end slavery, discrimination and violence?

Posted by: MrCompGov | September 30, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Immaloney, if it were a children's section of a public library, it'd have more book shelves, be decorated differently, and wouldn't be used for singing, even in after-hours, because libraries have special rooms they lend for such meetings where no books are shelved.

It looks to me like a family room or den in a large house.

Posted by: jhbyer | September 30, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

The VP for the 72 year old cancer survivor who is the Republican presidential candidate is unfit to lead the nation, and you'd like us to be afraid of a little girl singing a song...on you tube....I see.
Why don't you just tell us the POW story again and call it a day?

Posted by: dijetlo | September 30, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

How appalling and disgusting you are to throw contempt at innocent children. Truly, truly, truly contemptible of you.

Posted by: somerseten | September 30, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

I lived in that area, it's an oasis, or island depending on POV, of 70s new age culture. It was that way before Obama, and it'll most likely continue after Obama. The singing and attitude has been there for decades; the election has provided some new lyrics. Hence, your point -- that Obama somehow will instigate robotic following, is not logical.

Posted by: Richie2 | September 30, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

exactly what do you get from posting this video other than to encourage a bunch of wingnut fascists to come out of the woodwork and heap scorn on these kids? what kind of vicious twit are you, ms. parker? no one is brainwashing kids here. no one is being forced to salute the flag, or roll around on the ground speaking gibberish and being told that they are sinners who are going to burn in hell. you're one twisted mofo, lady.

Posted by: memorybabe1 | September 30, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

"Just to keep things in perspective, take a glance at this vision of our future in Obamaland."

A multicultural group of seemingly bright, talented, well-loved children with older, probably liberal parents, singing about hope. Hardly Armageddon.

Ms. Parker's post, I believe, is a veiled reference to "Jesus Camp," a very interesting and controversial documentary that came out in 2006 about a conservative evangelical Christian children's camp in North Dakota.

What those kids went through, to me as I watched it, amounted to fundamentalist "hazing" at the least, abusive at the worst. The messages that were drilled into children's heads in that movie are very "fringe" in comparison to the relatively generic "hope" song of the video Ms Parker presented.

Here is the Internet Movie Data Base (IMDB) reference for the movie:

The tactic may be similar. The intensity and specificity of the message imparted on the children in the movie vs. the youtube clip make the comparison apples to oranges.

You, Ms. Parker, may be afraid, but I do not think my sleep will be disturbed by this video. Hope and interracial tolerance, and interaction, seem to me good things which we should look forward to.

Posted by: pdech | September 30, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

And why did Calcyon, above, make derisive comments about Quakers and Unitarians? Is there something wrong with being inclusive of others, promoting peace and tolerance and fighting to end slavery, discrimination and violence?


Not at all, sir, not at all. In fact, I admit to actually being a Unitarian. I had my tongue planted firmly in my cheek there. However, you must admit that contemporary Unitarians, while they certainly do embody all of the virtues you describe, just don't seem to know how to write good songs. Gimme that good ol' gospel every time.

Posted by: calcyon | October 1, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Posted by: plm3d1 | October 1, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Hey Ms. Parker,

How do you explain this from freeper, Palin-Kool-Aid land?

"God created Sarah for times such as these. I know it. I feel it. She is no Dan Quayle. There is something special happening here. I believe it. I believe in Sarah."

No joke, that's a real quote.

Be afraid, indeed.

Posted by: jamshark70 | October 1, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse


"Four researchers who culled through 50 years of research literature about the psychology of conservatism report that at the core of political conservatism is the resistance to change and a tolerance for inequality, and that some of the common psychological factors linked to political conservatism include:

Fear and aggression
Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
Uncertainty avoidance
Need for cognitive closure
Terror management"

Change and ambiguity are facts of life. If conservatives have an overarching fear of these, and act out this anxiety irrationally, I would say conservatism much more resembles a mental disorder.

Posted by: jamshark70 | October 1, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I'm a strong Obama supporter, but yep I think it's a bit odd. Let's just say corny. But not nearly as scary as the Jesus Camp stuff because you know these same folks will be protesting Obama the second he (given the opportunity) actually sends more troops to Afgganistan...or pushes nuclear energy...or any number of things. Liberals just can't agree on anything for a sustained period of time the way Conservatives can.

Posted by: metame | October 1, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Parker, have you no understanding of the importance of context? A bunch of kids singing political songs at what is clearly some sort of political rally (just look at the signs in the background) is very, very different from a bunch of kids singing political songs in church, don't you think?

And why did you give no source for this video? For all we know the whole thing could have been staged by the Republicans as part of their Obama-is-the-Antichrist ploy.

Posted by: doctorbob | October 1, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: DemocratForPeace | October 1, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: hclark1 | October 1, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

You said "It is possible to criticize one side without endorsing the other, right?"

The answer is no. Republicans have been doing this to Democrats for 30 years and getting away with it. Think about: Flag Pins, Commie pinkos, Sodomites, and a whole host of other descriptions you, yourself, used to accuse Democrats ot being less than citizens and possibly the scum of the earth.

We all know Sarah Palin isn't qualified to be VP. But say that, and you become pariah, anathema and a worm - anything that will demean you, deride you, and lessen the truth of the criticism.

Where were you when they lied about Barack Obama's religion, his record, his preacher, his origin, his wife? (to mention just a few things).
Where were you in 2004 when a war hero was being called "coward" and "traitor"...?
Even Today, Republican spokespeople are calling Gwen Ifill bad things because she has a book deal. All that will do is create hatred toward Ifill in an attempt to give Palin an edge if she answers the questions wrong.

You joined in the fray on the Republican side. You enjoyed their destruction by false and scurrilous accusations.

You, only now, when you see just how foolish a pick Sarah Palin is for VP, decide to speak out and then, when your own side berates you in the fashion they are accustomed too, you cry foul... Isn't that like the House Republicans crying over Nancy Pelosi's speech?

The hatred you've been hearing, comes from your fellow Republicans.
The time to stand up for the truth has come and gone many times. It doesn't feel good to be on the short end of the stick, does it?

Posted by: davefragments | October 1, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I can see where Ms Parker and conservative christians would be so upset. I grew up being taught their message of hate, fear, and intolerance, a world where hope, love, and tolerance are considered to be the devil's tools. I have never been sorry that I rejected their message in spite of the scorn and insults. The true gospel of love and tolerance that Jesus actually preached is gaining ground. Just as the early christians withstood centuries of persecution, we will prevail. Unlike them, we will not change and lose the true meaning. These false christians of Ms Parker will eventually fail for if they don't, they will destroy the world. But I have hope and faith that people in the end will reject Parker and her ilk.

Posted by: jmorela1 | October 1, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

No comparison to 'Jesus Camp'. Where are they being trained to believe that the 'others' are the enemy. That the 'others' want bad things to happen to them.

In Jesus Camp, the 'others' were Americans who rightly criticized GW Bush. More than half in 200, now more than 75%. I'm way more scared of what the seething, angry, impulsive and reckless McCain might do in the next month as his campaign collapses.

Posted by: thebobbob | October 1, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

"It is possible to criticize one side without endorsing the other, right?"

In response to your question Kathleen, apparently not.

Although I do not think the two examples are equal in magnitude (Jesus Camp vs "Obama singers") I find them equally obnoxious in principle.

In both situations children much too young to be able to analyze and rationally select a religious/political affiliation are having one selected for them by adults who should know better.

Maybe somewhere, there are adults teaching children to sing about hope, the beauty of nature and the wisdom of understanding one another vs warring with one another, because these things are intrinsically wonderful. Not tied to a particular religion or political party.

I won't be holding my breath....

Posted by: foxfire_42 | October 1, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: DemocratForPeace | October 1, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Little kids singing happy songs about lifting others up -scares you-?????

I like singing.

I like kids.

I like helping other people.

The soloist has a -great - voice.

What kind of drugs are you taking, Parker?

Posted by: msw13 | October 1, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

I don't get it? So you mean to tell me you Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians have found fault in children of different Races singing about HOPE, CHANGE and YES WE CAN?

I don't know whether or not you Right Wing Wacko's or stupid, dumb or both.


Posted by: Realbrother0003 | October 1, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

So Ms Parker, after 8 years of carrying water for "with us or against us", you want to change the rules? Not so fast....

But here's what I want to know - how does it now feel to be a discredited "media elite". Labelling dissenters "elitists" has now forced a whole new category of elites - the "Georgtown Cocktail Elites", to which you are a charter member. Still want to carry water for that tactic now?

But don't worry, there's always Bob Barr.

Posted by: patriot16 | October 1, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

ANd about the video - clearly staged. But my question is - this is the best you can do?

Obama has positions on the economy, immigration, the Constitution, energy independence, war, the Supreme Court, Nunn-Lugar, and about everything else. The best you can do to turn people away from voting for him is a staged video of kids singing instead of his positions? That's the best you can do?

Posted by: patriot16 | October 1, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Well, personally I would have more faith in these children's
ideas on how to run the world than the Neo Cons that just
ruined ours.

Maybe these children will change the world because, as Sarah Palin would quip:

It needs some fix'n and shak'n up!

How I yearn for an upbeat, loving, happy, clean cut, non-denominational, hopeful, non-divisive, inclusive, problem-solving Obama World.

It sure beats the condescending, critical, cracked, intolerant, rich vs. poor world we have cooked up these past eight years.

Posted by: VoiceofReason | October 2, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

whatever! you speak of this and yet, you are pointing out the very thing that makes the right so scary....

Posted by: lettie1 | October 2, 2008 1:40 AM | Report abuse

How dare you people criticize these wonderful children! At least they know the truth: Obama is the answer to our hopes; he is the only man who can save our great nation. What do you want? Four more years of W's immoral policies? Obama is the way. He has the truth. If you can't see that, you're an ignorant person with your head stuck in the sand. Give me a break. Thank God for Obama! Peace and love to all.

Posted by: Ralph6 | October 2, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Posted by: Zodiac2 | October 2, 2008 2:03 AM | Report abuse


You don't have a clue what conservatism even means. Your asinine post basically explains that you are a moron. Thank you for making my point. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Posted by: plm3d1 | October 2, 2008 2:08 AM | Report abuse

"However, you must admit that contemporary Unitarians, while they certainly do embody all of the virtues you describe, just don't seem to know how to write good songs. Gimme that good ol' gospel every time."

LOL! How true.

And I think the likelihood of these (or any other) kids continuing to sing songs in praise of Obama after November 4 (whether he wins or not) is vanishingly small. There is no Obama cult, just a campaign. With pep rallies, songs, cheerleading and panegyrics in praise of the candidate and visions of the improvements that will come if he/she wins.

THAT IS THE NATURE OF A CAMPAIGN, as you must know if you thought critically about it for five minutes.

But once the campaign is over, in a democracy, the adulation and cheerleading STOPS. As it will here. There will NOT be organized Obama-worship if Obama becomes president. And certainly not if he is defeated.

If you are genuinely afraid of ongoing Obama-worship in an Obama administration, then you are not THINKING. If you know perfectly well that there is no risk whatever of that happening, but you just want to raise a fake specter make your fellow-citizens afraid, then shame on you.

I'm with you on Palin, BTW. Thanks for having the courage to speak out.

Posted by: herzliebster | October 2, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse

WOW! That was great! Thanks for sharing Kathleen.

And by-the-way, it's tragic if you really don't see the colorful world of difference between this... kids doing a cute performance... and the brain washing "Christian Soldier" inducing Dominionist propaganda of Jesus camp.

Posted by: pclement1 | October 2, 2008 2:41 AM | Report abuse

Biden's biggest challenge, by far, will be to not laugh out loud when Palin says something particularly stupid.

I know I can't do it. When I watch her on TV I have to halt the Tivo until I can stop laughing.

Did you hear about the college drinking game during the debate tonight:

Whenever Palin starts one of her run-on sentences, everybody drinks, then runs around the room, arms flailing, then drinks again when (ever/if) she stops.


Posted by: FivePlaneMcCain | October 2, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Obama's Not Exactlys:

1.) Selma March Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google 'Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establi sh Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Oba ma, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that....and for more.

Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs... Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth cert ificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....,_

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in islam''

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times : Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash t roubling facts.'

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn except how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine

13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel .

30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State

Posted by: DrRevere | October 2, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Actually it's possible to criticize both sides. McCain and Obama are cut from the same cloth. Only Bob Barr has spoken against the bailout bill.

If you give the bill a read, then you'll be outraged that anyone could support this.
read it:

The first 100 or so pages sounds like a bailout...but then the politics as usual starts. The bill includes:

p.279 Rum excise tax to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands

p. 280 Mine rescue/mine safety

p. 290 motorsports racing track facility

p.295 wool modifications

p. 297 child tax credit

p. 300 children and wooden arrows

p. 127 Tax credits for Steel industry fuel(boy, I’d like some tax credits for my fuel)

p. 175 Carbon sequestration credits

p. 202 Alternative fuel vehicle refueling property credit

AND stuff about Exxon Valdez compensation, mental health benefits (p 324)

This is politics as usual and everyone should be outraged at BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS who are taking our money for this stupid stuff. PORK plain and simple.

Posted by: AndyMN | October 2, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Oprah calls him...The One. College students are changing their middle names to "Hussein." What next? Oh, this. And if it strikes you as slightly creepy--well, then you're the worst form human being and should be shunned by all decent, right-thinking people---you are a "fascist," or, what I think might be even worse (for you Gore Vidal fans) a "crypto-fascist!" Oh my.

Posted by: seancrapola | October 2, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Could you send me a T-shirt? Extra large. Thanks.

Posted by: tjbrosseau44yahoocom | October 2, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand what the problem is with this video of children singing in support of a political candidate. Maybe it's a drippy song, but hardly scary. They're not even singing AGAINST anything. Is this the new level of Republican fear-mongering?

Posted by: JulieRoth | October 2, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I find it silly and it looks quite stages. It is creepy for sure but I too would like to see the exact source.

Posted by: nowickedwitch | October 2, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

The songs certainly comprise indoctrination or brainwashing of children by adult Obama fans, for I doubt whether the adults ever provided rational explanations to the children why they think that "Obama is great." The songs contain the buzz words "change," "hope," and so on.

Parker has provided no statistics regarding the number of Obama fan groups in this country who brainwash children in the above manner. I very much hope for our country's sake that the number is minuscule. We have more than enough brainwashing already going on in the Religious Right fanatic camp.

Posted by: AMemberofHumanSociety | October 2, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

The video is stupid, the brainstorm of a few people who are rather stupid. Putting it to Nazi pictures is not going to change the fact that we have been heading in the direction of corporate fascism for the last 8 year.

Hardly Armageddon.

A bunch of people got together and made the video and were pretty proud of it, a bunch of other stupid people thought it was ok. It was staged like a play, not a religious ceremony, hardly a bunch of people indoctrinating their children but a bunch of people who staged a video, passed out shirts for the video and that is about it.

The people behind it weren't the people that everyone is saying that is one lie, this had nothing to do with NBC.It was a bunch of what they call Hollywood gaffes - people who have had small jobs editing or such and might have small production companies and are trying to make a name for themselves.

You can see by the post at KOS,(below) (where the guy who made it originally posted news of it) what this was.I hardly think this is any indoctrination going on here, just an overly enthusiastic group of adults who staged a video with their children, something planned at a local fundraiser.

Granted it was stupid and creepy and of course being used now with Nazi photos as propaganda against Obama to help obscure the issues once again makes it more creepy.

I'm not sure even who the guy is but there are only 19 comments on the video at KOS and a couple are negative with the comments now shut off now. I am assuming because most of the comments were negative, probably overwhelmingly so.

Posted by: nowickedwitch | October 2, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Parker captioned this posting of children singing, "Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid."

Is Parker afraid of the words such a "hope" and "vote," or is she frightened by the thought of community? That fear could explain Republicans' aversion to "community organizers."

One can only imagine how terrified Parker would be of campers sitting around a campfire singing "Kumbaya."

Posted by: northernliberal | October 2, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

They forgot to get a kid in a wheelchair.. couldn't they have at least put one of the kids in a wheelchair.. apparently there is no room in Obamaland for kids in wheelchairs. I have also done a stop frame study to determine if the racial composition of the children and adults matches the US' and/or Venice's. They don't. I feel left out.

Posted by: ascheylus | October 2, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

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Obama’s Fishy $200 Million
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Published 10/2/2008 12:08:46 AM
An auditor for the Federal Election Commission is attempting to have his bosses seek a formal investigation into the collection by the Obama for President campaign of more than $200 million in potentially illegal political donations, including millions of dollars of illegal, foreign donations, and has sought a request for assistance from the Department of Justice or Federal Bureau of Investigation. But the analyst's requests have largely been ignored. "I can't get anyone to move. I believe we are looking at a hijacking of our political system that makes the Clinton and Gore fundraising scandals pale in comparison. And no one here wants to touch it."

One reasons cited by his superiors, says the analyst, is that involvement by the Justice Department or FBI would be indicative of a criminal investigation, something the FEC would prefer not take place a month before the presidential election. Such actions, though, have been used to scuttle Republican campaigns in the past, the most famous being the Weinberger case in the days leading up to the 1992 re-election bid of President George H.W. Bush.

The analyst, who declines to be identified for fear of retribution, says that on four different occasions in the past three months, he sought to open formal investigations into the Obama campaign's fundraising techniques, but those investigations have been discouraged. "Without formal approval, I can't get the resources I need, manpower, that kind of thing. This is a huge undertaking." And the analyst says that he believes that campaign finance violations have occurred.

The Obama campaign has already had to deal with several FEC complaints about fraudulent donors and illegal foreign contributions, and the FEC says it has no record that those complaints have been resolved or closed. As well, the Obama campaign has been cagey at times about the means by which it has made its historic fundraising hauls, which now total almost $500 million for the election cycle. The Hillary Clinton campaign raised questions about the huge amount of e-retail sales the Obama campaign was making for such things as t-shirts and other campaign paraphernalia, and how such sales were being tracked and used for fundraising purposes. While the profits of those items counted against the $2,300 personal donation limit, there have always been lingering questions about the e-retail system.

"The question has always been, if you buy a $25 t-shirt and you go back to that purchaser eight or nine times with email appeals for $200 or $500 donations, and you have people donating like that all the time, at what point does the campaign bother to check if the FEC limit has been exceeded?" says a former Clinton campaign fundraiser. "There are enough of us from the 1992 and 1996 and 2000 races around to know that many of these kinds of violations never get caught until after the election has been won or lost. In this case, there is no way the Obama campaign will be held accountable before Election Day, unless someone raises holy hell."

The FEC analyst says that Obama's filings indicate he has received large, bundled sums of donations from overseas, sometimes exceeding a quarter millions dollars. "It's suspicious, but it's the small donations made by credit card that need to be examined. We've raised red flags on many of these and the Obama campaign just ignores us. After this election, after we've sifted through everything -- if we're allowed to sift through everything -- I am confident that we are looking at perhaps the largest fine every leveled against a national campaign entity."

Just as frustrating as the lack of desire on the part of his bosses to act, says the analyst, is that major media outlets have ignored the story he has been attempting to tell. Thus far, Newsmax is one of the few publications to cover the Obama campaign finance scam story.

House Democrats are concerned that it wasn't just Rep. Barney Frank who was having extracurricular relations with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac executives, and that those relationships will come to light before the election a month from now.

According to a former Democrat staffer working for the House Committee on Financial Services, there were a number of stories involving Democrat members of the committee, as well as staffers for those Democrats, participating in retreats and getaway weekends paid for by Fan and Fred executives and lobbyists.

"Republicans were in the majority, and they weren't getting invited on these trips," says the former aide, who now works for an investment house in New York. "It's not that Republicans weren't enjoying themselves, but not the way my guys were. If I were a Democratic member in the mid to late 90s and dealt with financial services or housing issues, I'd be real nervous right now."

Frank has not hidden the fact that he was in a romantic relationship with a former executive for Fannie Mae. Frank now chairs the Financial Services Committee and was one of several longtime Democrat members who sought assurances from Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi that no action would be taken on Fan or Fred investigations until after the election in November.

Posted by: DrRevere | October 2, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Kathleen, you're going to have to do a lot better than that if you EVER want another invite to those swanky republican cocktail parties. You have SINNED. You have repented, and now shall you ATONE.

A vicious rumor or two about Michelle Obama's lesbian abortion-laced past, or a photoshopped photo of Obama in terrorist youth camp in Indonesia should do it! Keep chuggin' that right-wing kool-aid girl!

Posted by: donpersons | October 2, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse


CHANGE Chicago style


In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago,

221 killed in Iraq ..


Gov Rod Blogojevich

House leader Mike Madigan

Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)

Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of former Mayor Richard J. Daley)






..the leadership in Illinois .....all Democrats.

Chicago is a combat zone. Of course they're all� blaming each other.

Can't blame Republicans, they're aren't any!

State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.

Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25% highest in country.

(Look'em up if you want). Chicago school system one of� the worst in country

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois ..

He's gonna 'fix' Washington politics?

Posted by: xvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwx | October 2, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Quick, Ruby (if that's your real name)-- say something, anything to demonstrate you're really from Chicago. What do we put on our hot dogs? What don't we? I guess it's my paranoid nature, but somehow I suspect you haven't left your office at Oral Roberts U (or wherever) for years...
Phil (Not my real name either; my real name is Phillip.)

Posted by: Phida50 | October 2, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

What is the point, of either side, of trying to politicize children?

They can't vote and should be left out of the process other than explaining the importance of voting in a democracy. You might call it age appropriate politics

Maybe the adults there thought this was cute somehow and would change somebody's vote.

I don't see it and agree this is as chilling as what some evangelicals do to their kids.

Posted by: johnny_nycmaccom | October 2, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

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