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The Pig Takes the Cake

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, but it's still going to stink after eight years."

As a person who works in newspapers, I am deeply offended by Barack Obama’s suggestion that the product I help put out is fit only for wrapping fish. I hope he will apologize for this unfortunate print-ist statement.

Come on. I’ve covered a lot of incredibly trivial and ridiculously hyped campaign controversies, but the McCain campaign’s feigned outrage over Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” comments has to take the cake. I mean, no offense to bakers.

“Offensive and disgraceful,” pronounced Maria Comella, Sarah Palin’s spokesperson. “He owes Governor Palin an apology."

Former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift, on a conference call with reporters, upped the rhetorical ante to “disgusting” and said Obama was “comparing our vice presidential nominee, Governor Palin, to a pig.”

Never mind that Obama was not talking about Palin at all. He was dismissing John McCain’s claim that he would bring change to Washington.

“It seemed to me a gendered comment. There's only one woman in the race,” Swift insisted. “As far as I know, she's the only one of the four - the presidential and vice presidential candidates - who wears lipstick.”

You have to give the McCain campaign credit for pulling this one off with a straight face, lipsticked or not. Of course, Obama blundered by venturing into the dangerous territory of cosmetics in the aftermath of Palin’s famed pit bull remark. (Hey, was that a gendered comment?)

But if any of the delicate flowers in McCain-land were actually offended by what Obama had to say, well -- pass the smelling salts.

In fact, if you want to get all huffy about “gendered comments,” I’d suggest keeping an eye on the McCain campaign. It has taken to calling Obama “fussy” and describing the campaign as “hysterical.” As in, “I saw Obama’s rather fussy and petulant response today to the tire gauge” (Nicolle Wallace) or, “Senator Obama appears to get fussy when asked tough questions” (Brian Rogers). Or, "the Obama campaign’s hysterical statement questioning John McCain’s honor (Rogers) or “The only explanation for their hysterical attacks...” (Rogers).

Are they trying to suggest that Obama is a girly-man? These are not random, off-the-cuff word choices, but part of a deliberate effort to evoke an image of Obama as effeminate and weak. Or maybe that’s just me, being fussy and hysterical.

By Ruth Marcus  | September 10, 2008; 1:14 PM ET
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When Pigs fly….. Lets be real people, John McCain’s father died when he was 61 years old. John McCain has had four skirmishes with skin cancer. At age 72 odds are he will die in the White House, if he doesn’t come down with Alzheimer’s first. DO YOU REALLY WANT AN UNKNOWN, UNTESTED, “HOCKEY MOM” SITTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE AS COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF?

Here’s an even worse thought….YOU DON’T SPEND FIVE YEARS AT THE HANOI HILTON AND COME OUT COMPLETELY SANE. John McCain, the real MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE!

Posted by: Marcus Taylor | September 10, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I agree with the criticism of the McCain campaign. Obama clearly did not intend to refer to Sarah Palin as a pig. However, much of the Obama/Biden campaign's criticism of McCain/Palin is just as misleading as this episode. Ms. Marcus would have more credibility were she to be even-handed in her coverage.

Posted by: Paul Bloustein | September 10, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Makes you wonder how McCain would respond to a real slight: Maybe bomb Moscow, invade France, or just throw a hissy fit. This whole episode shows McCain is not mature enough to be president.

Posted by: Greg | September 10, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't agree more with you Marcus. It's funny how the McCain-Palin folks can claim outrage with such a straight face. But then again they tell lies with a straight face too.

Go Obama

Posted by: B Real | September 10, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I beg to differ... the Washington Times is a MUCH better newspaper with which to wrap fish. :)

Posted by: Tom C | September 10, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA INJECTS MUSLIM THEMED SLUR "LIPSTICK ON A PIG"

Obama's lipstick on a pig comment--documented on his teleprompter-- is much more than just a sexist slur.

It is a deeeply rooted Muslim slur.

Obama was indoctinated in Muslim theology from birth. His Mother twice married Muslim men, voluntarily embracing their worldview.

Obama was further indoctrinated in Muslim schools.

And ask yourself, If schools can't indoctrinate children with religion, why does the US prohibit religion in our schools?

Obama admitted in a freudian slip on ABC Sunday his "Muslim faith", which the "neutral journalist" quickly correct FOR Obama.

Obama says he is a Christian, but denies he ever listened to his Pastor's sermons etc....

So Gov. Palin is a fundamentalist Christian who Obama, with a strong Muslim indoctrination, compares to a pig--highly disdained in Muslim theology.

Posted by: JaxMax | September 10, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me but didn't Mr. McCain use the exact same words last spring?! uh huh. Look before you criticise you female chauvinists!!!!!!! I am a 73 year old female mother of 3 and grandmother of 6. Don't expect me to join your ranks. Women like you are what keep woman down.

Posted by: Eileen | September 10, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Has the McCain Campaign even noted the Economist Mag far, far harsher comments on Gov Palin? I bet not, since they can't blame Sen Obama for a Rep Leaning, British Mag comments.

Posted by: Muddy | September 10, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

these are serious times for serious leaders to step up and start fixing problems. McCain's continuation of the swift boat tactics used successfully by Rove & Co four years ago is utterly disgusting. I actually thought he was above this stuff but I was wrong. ENOUGH!!!

Posted by: rfitz_51 | September 10, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Marcus asks:

"Are they trying to suggest that Obama is a girly-man? "

RESPONSE: Well, isn't this The Obama that threatened the Media that they had better not mention his ears, his middle name (HUSSEIN),or his lac of experience?

Posted by: JaxMax | September 10, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Swift ain't.

Posted by: rj2z | September 10, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama responds:

"Yesterday I talked to a group of voters about how the McCain campaign is trying to call their continuation of just about every single Bush-Cheney policy of the last eight years 'change.' In doing so, I used a common, hundred-year-old phrase that we all understand: 'You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.' Now the McCain campaign demands that I apologize for saying this. Everyone, it seems, wants to hear my answer. Here it is: NO."

(Source: AndrewSullivan.com

Posted by: Terry Carroll | September 10, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

The images of Sarah as Mother-archtype or as Wonder Woman divert from the Election Priorities, and Why she is even here in front of us in the first place.

It would be better to concentrate on the outrageous fact that she has not fielded any questions thus far about her candidacy and the issues. Shouldn’t the voting public be allowed its own vetting process?

In this matter I see her as a ventriloquist dummy, getting all the attention while others pretend to be her voice. Or, alternatively, as the Ultimate Female Terrorist in a burka with a veil over nearly all of her face, particularly the mouth, not speaking to others, particularly male counterparts. Perhaps she has a bomb under her clothing?

Posted by: Spectator | September 10, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

The Obama campaign should run a natioanl commercial with McCain using the same "lipstick on a pig" comment to show McCain's hypocrisy. If I had the money, I'd do it now! Let's go!!!

Posted by: tazmodious | September 10, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Marcus:

Thanks, as always, for the sanity on this one.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm a McCain/Palin supporter and I think this is much ado about nothing. The crowd listening inferred what they wanted to hear...big deal. It's not like this is the first time that phrase has ever been uttered...just the first time since Palin compared herself to a bulldog w/lipstick.

Posted by: Chele Fernandez | September 10, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Palin has them worried.

Posted by: Fuji | September 10, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Actually, The Pig Coalition filed a defamation of character lawsuit because they, too, thought it was a comparison to Palin. They, however, thought the play was about Obama calling pigs stupid.

Posted by: TW | September 10, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Go to this web address and tell John McCain to fire Steve Schmidt. he is the one responsible for destroying a true patriot, John McCain.

http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/

Schmidt is one of Rove's henchmen and will do anything to get someone into office. He has a satanic ability to rile up the perpetually pissed off right.

Posted by: Alex Farnsley | September 10, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

"Never mind that Obama was not talking about Palin at all. He was dismissing John McCain’s claim that he would bring change to Washington."

And that's exactly the point. McCain doesn't want you to think about the issues. This is all about personalities now. He knows they can't totally run from the last 8 years, so this is what we get. McCain voters (and the entire nation) should be ashamed at the way they're being treated by someone supposedly of good character.

Posted by: Gary | September 10, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I remember Swift. She was the one that took a state helicopter home from Boston every day on the taxpayers dime.

She also happened to be an awful governor.

It's nice that she's got a gig being a Palin mouthpiece, though.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe Obama called Palin's statement a "foolish diversion". That plays right into the Republican strategy. All it does is reinforce his image as an elitist intellectual.

For better or worse (I believe worse), the American people do not want a calm cool and collected brainiac for President. They don't want someone who seems better than themselves. They want someone like themselves.

Americans don't want nuance. They want Westerns with good guys and bad guys and they want the bad guys to end up shot dead. They want Dirty Harry and Rambo and Die Hard.

I think this will lead to the decline of our country. But telling people they SHOULD demand more sophisticated arguments is a sure way to lose this election. It is like the old saying about arguing with your spouse: do you want to be right or do you want to be married?

If Obama wants to WIN, then he needs to come down from the ivory tower and start FIGHTING. He needs to get ANGRY. He needs to express an sense of outrage. He needs to say over and over that the Republicans are dirty rotten scoundrels and liars who are taking away our civil rights and that America will be a second class country if we elect another Republican President. Palin has energized the conservative base. If Obama cannot energize the Bish-haters, he has no shot.

Posted by: taxguru | September 10, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

If this woman is offended by this comment, then this woman is too weak to be Vice-Commander in Chief.

Posted by: Carol-CPA | September 10, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

RE: Paul Bloustein

Interesting point - even handedness is always important.

but you can't fabricate things that didn't happen. If you want the Post to print something equally ridiculous that obama has whined about, suggest something! I can't think of anything!

If they were hiding something about obama that would be one thing - but they're not. Obama has never been "outraged" over something silly like this before, and the mistakes he has made - such as arugala and "bitterness" - has been leapt on by the press. That seems like fair treatment to me.

You can't blame the Post of McCain puts out more ridiculous press releases than Obama does!

Posted by: Daniel | September 10, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

You all know there was a double meaning - unless you can't read between the lines - even the audience got it.

Posted by: Voice2 | September 10, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

So Sarah Palin isn't a pig. She wants to be known as a pitbull. Good for her. And John McCain isn't a fish. He's an unbranded horse (i.e., a "maverick"). Very imaginative. Me, I'm a unicorn.

Posted by: Terry Carroll | September 10, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I agree with some of the posts here. Feigning outrage over the lipstick comment is a bit much. But so was the feigned outrage in the Obama camp against Hillary Clinton for her comments that supposedly bordered on racism. The Obama camp shouldn't feign outrage towards others and then complain when feigned outrage is directed towards them. Marcus, you're a journalist. Shouldn't you be required to be a bit more objective?

Posted by: ZAG | September 10, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Alright!
Good call Ms. Marcus.
Thanks.

Posted by: Bulwinkle | September 10, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse


Pigmalion is another Steve Schmidt job.


Posted by: ratl | September 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Rovians feigning outrage - how quaint.

Posted by: Roy | September 10, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

NEO-CONS have nothing but the same dead stinking fish of lies, failure, poor judgement, and snap decisions that "talk-good" but fail and WE have to pay for them!

ENOUGH!

It is time for the media to DO ITS JOB FOR ONCE and call out the lies and misrepresentations, overly-inflated claims of accomplishment, and point out the HYPOCRISY on the campaign trail.

Palin's speech is PACKED WITH LIES and it is time the MSM stopped being a parrot with a stenographer's machine and started calling foul when the stench is unbearable!

Posted by: JBE | September 10, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

If you were in doubt about McCain's campaign strategy before, the contrived Republican moral outrage over the lipstick comment tells you all you need to know. It also tells you all you need to know about John McCain's supposed honesty and integrity that he is allowing his campaign goons to deliberately misrepresent that comment.

Posted by: Stefan | September 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I am a hockey mom, and I am outraged over Sarah Palin's joke. Where's my apology? She can dish it but can't take it.

Posted by: hockeymom1 | September 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Of course McCain used the same phrase to describe Hilary, and also Mitt Romney. This is indeed another dang LIE by the mccain/palin team. Poor palin..isn't she the one who suggested Hilary was whining. They are not offended by this..they are thrilled they have something else they can whine about and distract the country from the truth that neither mccain or palin or reformers, that they will indeed continue this country along the same path that Bush did. Frankly, though obama didn't call her a pig, maybe he should have.

Posted by: sherrybb | September 10, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Great response Ms. Marcus!!! But if the hoof fits, let the pick wear the lipstick.

Posted by: RMP | September 10, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

The MCain camp gets in a tizzy about a supposed insult to Sarah Palin, but they never attacked Obama for calling McCain a stinky old fish. Do they know something?

Posted by: Joseph Klipple | September 10, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Well, since the joke that Palin used in her acceptance speech was about the difference between a Pit Bull and a hockey mom being "lipstick", I guess that is the politically correct referent, right.

Henceforth, we'll always call it "Putting lipstick on a Pit Bull" and no one will be offended....

Posted by: Chuck | September 10, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Good post. Thank you.

Posted by: JoyousMN | September 10, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

This "outrage" from the same Sen. McCain who once publicly called his (second) wife a "****" and bragged to a bunch of bikers about how he urged her to display herself topless? The same Sen. McCain who joked about Chelsea Clinton being "ugly" because she's really the daughter of Hillary and Janet Reno? The same Sen. McCain who called something from Hillary "lipstick on a pig"? The same Sen. McCain who was slandered by Karl Rove's campaign in 2000 for begetting a black child with a prostitute, and who now lets that same bunch of assassins run his campaign?

Is the man who made the reckless decision to put this woman into line for the presidency sufficiently sane, sufficiently sober, and sufficiently mindful of the country's fate to be entrusted with the presidency?

What in God's name is this country coming to? Are we being led like sheep to the slaughter--like the Germans who democratically fell for the Big Lie of Hitler and Goebbels and Streicher?

Posted by: jm917 | September 10, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

McCain needs to drop this one. I don't know who put him up to this, but it is tacky. "Lipstick on a pig" is an old expression. It might have been strategically used since Palin's entry, but it really is trivial. If this keeps up, I will start to doubt his maverick street creds.

Posted by: dcp | September 10, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion Senator McCain has now forfeited any possible claim to integrity or "country first" patriotism that he may once have had.

The cynicism of his campaign, illustrated most clearly by this ridiculous "lipstick" distraction, is breathtaking.

At a time when the United States is fighting two wars, is threatened by global terrorism, faces an unprecedented housing crisis, and has an economy that is bleeding jobs oversees the most relevant thing he can find to talk about is whether a stock phrase - that he has used himself - was intended as an insult to his running-mate. What a waste of time!

I want to know whether the Senator actually has any plans to get this nation of "whiners" back on track.

Posted by: Glen D. | September 10, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Poor, poor Sarah, how ever will she stand up to Vladimir Putin?

Posted by: Skye | September 10, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

You and the WaPo let Obama make Fairy Tale a racist slur.
You laughed when he gave HRC the finger.
Now Hussein faces McCain and McCain won't give Hussein a pass on his bs.
And you can't stand it!
Somebody actually stands up to the
Empty Suit
Never Done Nothing
Crack Head
Surrender Monkey
Osama bin Biden
and points out just what a pointy headed nothing Obama is.
And you can't stand it!
You ObaDroids gave us your Affirmative Action BBF
just don't complain when we refuse to get on our knees
and kiss his fat backside!

Posted by: JamesT | September 10, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

This response from the McCain campaign shows the lack of maturity from the Rove machine. Remeber...Rove's career started with college pranks.

Posted by: willandjansdad | September 10, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

It is obvious that the the GOP Campaign can't stand the fact when their own campaign slogans backfires on them.

Posted by: Lisa | September 10, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I think this was a setup by the Obama campaign. It's suspicious how quickly they were ready with the McCain tape calling the health plan a pig with lipstick. And if he didn't mean Palin, why were his followers so gleeful when he said it? They obviously thought that's what he was talking about. I think this was a setup to get people talking about him again instead of Palin and maybe to make the McCain campaign look overly defensive. But I still think he meant Palin, who had so very recently been associated with lipstick by her boffo speech joke.

Posted by: Georgetowner1 | September 10, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

"Lets be real people, John McCain’s father died when he was 61 years old. John McCain has had four skirmishes with skin cancer. At age 72 odds are he will die in the White House, if he doesn’t come down with Alzheimer’s first."

Posted by: Marcus Taylor | September 10, 2008 1:46 PM
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For the record, it was McCain's grandfather, the first John McCain, who died at the age of 61 immediately after the end of WWII. McCain's father died at the age of 70. But you are right that McCain himself just turned 72. As I recall, Reagan started exhibiting signs of Alzheimer's during his second term, and he was 73 when he was reelected in 1984.

Posted by: tbraton | September 10, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

In response to JaxMax who thinks Obama is a Muslim because he used the word "pig." I'm sure you've used the word "pig" once or twice in your lifetime to insult either overweight people or police officers. So would using that slur also make you a Muslim? Your argument is dangerously irrational.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

McCain a prisoner once again. You can't believe that he pulled the Playboy bunny out of a hat. She was pre selected by the Rove/Cheney group to be the watchdog and mouthpiece for the religious right when McCain tries to be real. She is really dangerous. Too bad she doesn't have a funny name so she can be picked on like the school yard republicans going after Obama. I hope that the press evicerates her like they tried to do to Hillary. I wouldn't want Palin to be the one annswering the 3 am phone call. She would probably be busy with feeding her kid and grand kid and noy want to be bothered with an international or national crisis. She seems like the poster girl for PMS.

Posted by: steve jacobson | September 10, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Get over it! He said PAPER, not NEWSPAPER.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Putin, the leaders of Saudi Arabia, and Castro must be laughing their hind ends off.

Tthis is the best of American democracy! Lipstick!Pigs! Pit Bulls!

Does China really want US style democracy if this is it?

Come on American people. Grow up, and tell both campaigns stop the childrens games.

We have an economy that may crumble in the next few weeks or months.

The American people may lose their 401Ks and any other retirement income in the curent financial crises.

The Iraq War is still killing soliders on our side, and civilans, and we are discussing Lipstick!

I am ashamed to be an American.

I would rather be French, or even a British colony again.

Is this what our Founding Fathers gambled their lives and sacred honor for?

What fools they were, if this is the best we can do!

Posted by: R Stone | September 10, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign needs to take a deep breath, pause, and just think before hastily responding to every little critique coming out of the Obama camp. That phrase is so commonplace today that one could never assume that it was intended as an insult to Palin (even if it was in fact intended as such...we'll never know).

The Republicans are supposed to be the ones above being sensitive to anything even remotely politically incorrect, so why be so sensitive to this little remark?

As for Obama's effeminate nature, he doesn't need anyone's assistance in pointing this out, as he's doing just fine himself, going on Ellen and dancing like a fruitcake. Does he think real men in red states find that cool?

Posted by: Laurie Dhue is Hot | September 10, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Good article, Ms. Marcus.
As a retired teacher, I recognize a playground retort when I hear it! The McCain Campaign team sounds like a group of petulant five-year-olds! When is McCain going to address the actual issues, instead of this constant patter of lies, character assassination and just plain silliness?

Posted by: tchr527 | September 10, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Wilbur was a pig. Pontius Pilate was a governor.

Posted by: Terry Carroll | September 10, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Palin opened herself up to the "pig/lipstick" saying when she made the "lipstick/pitbull" joke in her speech. If she's calling herself a pitbull, I'm sure she can take a couple of pig comments.

The Obama campaign should take a page from The Daily Show and just do ads with juxtaposed video footage proving their hypocrisy. Not very hard to find that footage.

Posted by: Anne | September 10, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Why can't Obama just take the high road and either not respond or just say plainly that his comments were not meant to be offensive and if anyone found it insulting, it wasn't meant to be? If he finds it so trivial, why does he continue the debate by responding?

Posted by: Precy | September 10, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Enough of this garbage being put out by McCain's handlers! It stinks of Rovian politics. I don't want 8 (or even 4) more years of that doodoo.

Posted by: Steve | September 10, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

You all know there was a double meaning - unless you can't read between the lines - even the audience got it.

Posted by: Voice2 | September 10, 2008 2:21 PM
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The only people reading between the lines are the people who actually think that McCain is a stink fish and Palin is a pig in lipstick. That's it!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I used to really admire John McCain. I cast my first vote for him in 2000 when I was 18. But he's let Bush's henchmen (now his henchmen) turn him into a real scumbag. No offense to Trojan and Durex.

Posted by: aleks | September 10, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

In response to JaxMax:

Obama has been PROVEN not to be Muslim. Furthermore, pigs are mentioned in more than one religion. I also didn't realize that a middle name dictated religion, I will have a lot of friends who will be upset that they have to change faith.

Religion is not taught in US public schools because when the country was founded, many individuals were fleeing from religious persecution. To ensure this would not need to happen in America, a seperation of church and state was established, cementing the ideoligy that no American would feel persecuted based upon religious beliefs. It has nothing to do with indoctrination. Besides, I have friends who have gone to religious schools, and then rebelled against that religion.

Lastly, the "pig with lipstick" comment, as reported, has been used many times previously in politics, including by McCain himself.

Posted by: Jo | September 10, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

To Marcus Taylor: The question is not whether we want a "hockey mom" in the Whitehouse. By Governor Palin's own admission, it is a "lipstick wearing pitbull" that will serve.

I know, I have now offended all of the McCain supporters and all of the women in this nation. What I find strange is why it is okay for Governor Palin to call herself a lipstick wearing pitbull, but a shameful comment for any who disagree with Senator McCain's policy proposals?

Posted by: tlk | September 10, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the Worst.....Candidate.....Ever

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I hate all this back and forth amoungst candidates - remember right before 9/11, Bush and Gore were fighting - and this is the day before 9/11 and the candidates are fighting (they are not paying attention to their surroundings, beware I say and pay attention) When you put your focus to the right, something can come from the left and overtake you. All I'm saying is look at the big picture.

Posted by: CEA1959 | September 10, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of bacon, how come Governor Palin never gave back the HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of US Taxpayer dollars that we sent her for the Bridge to Nowhere.

I think the reason the Bush/McCain crowd is so upset over the lipstick on a pig quote is they know they are the pigs - and TRIPLING our deficit under McCain's plan is the WRONG DIRECTION!

Posted by: Will in Seattle | September 10, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

THE CLAIM: McCain's ad asserts he has fought pork-barrel spending, the drug industry and fellow Republicans, reforming Washington in the process, and credits Palin with similarly changing Alaska by taking on the oil industry, challenging her own party and ditching the bridge project that became a national symbol of wasteful spending.

THE FACTS: Palin did abandon plans to build the nearly $400 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport. But she made her decision AFTER the project had become an embarrassment to the state and federal dollars for the project were pulled back.

Posted by: caferide | September 10, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I think Ms. "Swift" should use Lip Gloss and offer some to Ms. Palin, too. Or would "gloss" imply that we think Ms. Palin is not completely honest?

Posted by: mammyyel | September 10, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

JaxMax Hmmmm what is that a nickname for accomplished masturbater?

Posted by: H. Simon | September 10, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Hillary must be really enjoying herself while watching the Obama campaign implode. The past week brings up serious questions about the Democratic Party's vetting process.

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Pigs and lipstick, pitbulls and lipstick... That's it! I'm putting lipstick on the terrorist list. So ridiculous.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I used to revere John McCain. I campaigned for him in 2000, and was devestated when he lost the South Carolina primary. I feel that I don't know this fellow. He is a shell of what he used to be, a deflated double talk express that has to be reinflated by a woman half his age. He may win the election, but it will be meaningless. His used to be a story of American triumphalism, now it s a cynical American tragedy.

Posted by: Arikarra | September 10, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

“He owes Governor Palin an apology."

All Republican prestidigitation. See how the trick is done. Remove your attention from the actions that count. People who can do this effectively deserve respect, but not as powerful influences over our country.

Posted by: L.Kurt Engelhart | September 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Why can't Obama just take the high road and either not respond or just say plainly that his comments were not meant to be offensive and if anyone found it insulting, it wasn't meant to be? If he finds it so trivial, why does he continue the debate by responding?
Posted by: Precy | September 10, 2008 2:59 PM

Right, because that worked so well for Kerry.

Posted by: aleks | September 10, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Is it too late for the Democrats to have another convention? Seriously, what are the rules on this? They need to have an emergency meeting to reconsider their choice of nominee. Buyer's remorse.

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

It was either a huge unintentional blunder, or a stupid tactical blunder.

I too found it suspicious that the campaign had the video of McCain saying the same thing about Hillary's healthcare plan. The differences? McCain and Hillary are friends and respect eachother. Hillary hadn't referred to herself wearing lipstick in the most delightful line from a speech witnessed by 38 million people the week before. Obama apparently doesn't know Palin and is probably outraged that she is stealing white women voters from him.

No, I think this was a stupid tactical blunder. The fact that he had two of those metaphors, the old fish and the pig with lipstick ready to deliver suggests it was pre-planned, and perhaps pre-planned believing the Republicans would over-react and Obama would have plausible deniability that he meant anything offensive.

Stupid, no matter how you look at it. Obama is losing white women voters rapidly. His comments, which many women will view as a vicious attack, can only make the situation worse.

It's further evidence that Obama can't take a punch and that he is rattled and over-reacting to the McCain/Palin surge, which is, afterall, dramatic and seemingly gaining momentum.

Posted by: theduke | September 10, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I remember Swift. She was the one that took a state helicopter home from Boston every day on the taxpayers dime.
She also happened to be an awful governor.
It's nice that she's got a gig being a Palin mouthpiece, though.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:14 PM

The Feminist Party (GOP) hasn't seen fit to run very many women for high office, so they have to make do with the spokeswomen they have.

Posted by: aleks | September 10, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

MCain is such a feminist that he attacked a twelve year old girl, joking that Chelsea Clinton was so ugly that (then U.S. Attorney General) Janet Reno must be her father.

The Obama campaign should dust off the video of McCain guffawing to wild cheers and applause from his Republican cronies and expose these charlatans-- the only way to knock down a bully is to sucker punch him in the gut.

Posted by: Elmerfudd | September 10, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

This is ridiculous. This is making women look stupid.

Posted by: Cheryl L | September 10, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Palin is an unabashed liar. She continues to lie about not supporting the bridge to nowhere, about Obama's tax plan and her embrace of every earmark that ever came her way.

Frankly, I would rather vote for a pig than McCain/Palin. They might stink, but they wont lie to you and are considered very intelligent. Two things this ticket is lacking.

Posted by: truth | September 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"when the country was founded, many individuals were fleeing from religious persecution"

We see this all the time. Nobody sees fit to mention that the Puritans sought freedom to impose their own homogenous religion on the inhabitants, including natives, in the New World. The forces of freedom were too great to allow this to continue. The authors of our Constitution put an end to this religious dictatorship that tried and executed women and children as "witches."

Posted by: L.Kurt Engelhart | September 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I am Dave. I support Obama. This country is sick of the Republican lies and the giveaways to the rich. Vote Obama to change course and reverse the downward spiral.

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Well, sarah has 5 kids form her litter...maybe she does look/act like a pig at home. she charges the government per diem for 312 days for staying at home and also reimburses her family's air tickets...isn't that a pigg-ish tendency ? Greedy...

the mere thought of seeing her take the seat in the oval office after McCain departs for his humble abode/hell....makes me feel like taking a restroom break.

Go Obama, kick the pigs out of the house !

Posted by: Pink Floyd | September 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Left-wingers: you are clueless so I'll explain it too you. Socialists and Democrats love to put themselves in positions where they can claim to be "helping people" but have no actual responsibility. A "community organizer" gets to claim he is helping with community development, but he is not responsible for hiring and firing, he is not responsible for managing a budget, and he is never faced with decisions that will inevitably make some part of his constituency mad. A "community organizer" doesn't have to compete for the job - anyone can call himself a "community organizer." This is why Obama's citation of "community organizer" experience is so bogus. One only gets management experience in an executive position such as mayor, business owner, or governor (like Sarah Palin) or military commander (like John McCain). I'm providing this clue to you liberals free of charge.

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

JaxMax:

You're such a pig-Forking idiot!

Posted by: Austinbigboy | September 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Problem with McCain is....he became a war hero (accidentally) BECAUSE HE COULD NOT FLY A DAMN airplane, that too a 1 seater. If a driver/pilot could not get 1 thing done correctly 40 years ago, imagine him at the helm of this big country...we are going down, people !!!

Posted by: pink | September 10, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

"When I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism or, you know, maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think, man, that doesn’t do us any good. Women in politics, women in general wanting to progress this country. I don’t think it’s, it bodes well for her -- a statement like that."

- Sarah Palin on Hillary Clinton's claims of sexism in the media.

Posted by: Liberal Elitist Snob | September 10, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me or McCain does really look like he's gonna pop any moment...when he utters those magic words "chhannnge...chhhange" slowly. POP !!!

Posted by: TiredOfWars | September 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

lI am just loving this. Remember when Obama and his supporters turned every little comment by Hillary Clinton and/or her surrogates into some kind of racial insult?. well, this is the flipside!

Posted by: What Goes Around... | September 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"This is the best of American democracy! Lipstick!Pigs! Pit Bulls!

Does China really want US style democracy if this is it?

Come on American people. Grow up, and tell both campaigns stop the childrens games."

The campaigns won't stop playing children's games. Do you know why? Because most people in the electorate decide on candidates as if they are children. It's like being back in high school.

"He's so well-spoken"
"She's just like me"
"He's got family values"

These are the kinds of reactions we get when they play these types of games and it seems to work for the pols, so why should they stop? After all, the issues are just so boring.

Posted by: BW | September 10, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

In the bizarro world known as "Fox News" this story is bigger than the discovery of the Rosetta Stone.

So I guess everybody hears the quote the way they want to, truth be damned. I know Obama meant "Bush/McCain Policies" when said "pig" and "fish" but for people desperate to want to believe the Republicans, this turn of phrase has been turned into a gift. Not sure it's going to work on Democrats, Independents and some Republicans, though. The 20%ers, for sure.

Posted by: tony the pitiful copywriter | September 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

THE MEDIA SHOULDN'T EVEN MENTION SARAH PALIN BECAUSE THAT IS SEXIST

Posted by: mike_nimzo | September 10, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse


Hypocritical spinning won't change the fact that McCain himself used "lipstick on a pig" to describe Hillary's health care plan.

It's on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM

If Palin is so offended, why is she sending out surrogates to complain rather than hitting back at Obama in a live interview? (No problems with reading scripted attacks against Obama in controlled settings though.)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

JaxMax, do you have a single statement that can actually be backed up? Didn't think so. Take your tinfoil hat and hit the road.

Posted by: Ryan in Cleveland | September 10, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

The Pig Takes the Cake
"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, but it's still going to stink after eight years."

As a person who works in newspapers, I am deeply offended by Barack Obama’s suggestion that the product I help put out is fit only for wrapping fish. I hope he will apologize for this unfortunate print-ist statement.

Come on. I’ve covered a lot of incredibly trivial and ridiculously hyped campaign controversies, but the McCain campaign’s feigned outrage over Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” comments has to take the cake. I mean, no offense to bakers.


“Offensive and disgraceful,” pronounced Maria Comella, Sarah Palin’s spokesperson. “He owes Governor Palin an apology."
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Maria Comella is way out of line.

In so far as I am concerned Obama should make love to Sarah Palin to make up for the offensive remark.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

“Offensive and disgraceful,” pronounced Maria Comella, Sarah Palin’s spokesperson. “He owes Governor Palin an apology."
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Maria Comella is way out of line.

In so far as I am concerned Obama should make love to Sarah Palin to make up for the offensive remark.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

This is the same faux manufactured outrage the press amplified when Wes Clark answered a direct question, saying getting shot down is not a qualification to be CinC (note: Fred Thompson said essentially the same thing at the GOP convention, except it was his original thought--he wasn't answering a loaded question).

If the media bought that nonsense and hyped it for weeks, why shouldn't McCain's campaign try to make hay out of nothing again?

McCain thinks the media and voters are pretty stupid, and I think he may be right.

Posted by: Alan | September 10, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Really, if you think about it, it isn't Obama calling Palin a pig. It's McCain's own party and people who think that Palin is a pig. Why else would they link that innocuous, time-worn phrase to Palin? Everyone, including McCain, and Cheney (Mr. & Mrs) have used it at one point or another. So if you follow their reasoning that Obama meant it for Palin, then they must also think that McCain is a stinky old fish. LOL...

Posted by: Denise Brown | September 10, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm outraged! Palin is a moose in lipstick, not a pig! I want someone to apologize!! Waaaah!!

Posted by: miknugget | September 10, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Yo - JaxMax
You need to sit down and rest. I think I smell your bearings burning.
You know if Mr. Obama's middle name was "Sam" , I believe you neocon nincompoops could find some "deep, dark underlying" meaning.
Any chance you believe "little green men" crashed in Roswell?

Posted by: Mac-AL | September 10, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

What if God forbid McCain and Palin are elected. What would be the result if a foriegn country insulted this thin skinned duo? WWIII because they hurt thier feelings?
What a bunch of wussies the Repubs are showing themselves to be.
Oh yes, I remember when the Right quickly lept to Baracks defense when the media continuously pressed him about weather he was a Muslim who attended a terrorist training Madrasa, or his wife a black millitant leader who hated America, or the the infamous " Atlantic Cover" . No proof just hearsay and gossip. But that was alright because they are black, and the right is a bunch of scared ,arrogant, bigots more concerned with towing the failed party line then healing thier country and giving thier children a chance at a better future.They obvioulsly don't deserve it but it's just the rest of the thinking American's that still love thier country that will pay for the sins of these hypocrits.

Posted by: Brollens | September 10, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

John McCain lets us know how he really will win! Quote "MY FRIENDS"

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Posted by: foxnews (R) | September 10, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama was not calling Sarah Palin a pig. The McCain campaign is the pig. She is the lipstick. Adding her to the ticket does not "change" the fact that it is still a pig.

Posted by: m20120 | September 10, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

My small town newspaper comment board is all a buzz with this ridiculous story.

I am so OUTRAGED by the McCain campaign right now. I was so fired up, I just donated the $2000 to Obama. I am ASHAMED of McCain and I am ashamed of what politics in our country have become. The McCain campaign seems to think it is OK to LIE to the American people. He cant win, we cant afford to have another LIAR in the Whitehouse. I have now come to the conclusion that McCain would be a worse President than Bush... and I use to think John McCain was an honorable man.

The MEDIA needs to call the McCain campaign out on the lies, now! Dont call them untruths, half truths... call them what they are LIES. All Americans should be OUTRAGED.

Posted by: pantsonfire | September 10, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

You are on the mark Ms. Marcus. This joke was old when Obama was a baby. By the same token, the thought that Palin dis-ed community organizers is also being over-hyped. Let's get back to a serious discussion of the issues.

Posted by: Richard | September 10, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Every time I see a comment like the one from JaxMax, I try to imagine the person behind it. Is he getting paid by the McCain campaign to comment on blogs? Is he a racist recluse, living the Timothy McVeigh lifestyle? Is he from a rural family in the South, still bitter about the end of slavery? Hard to say.

But regardless of the motives, please don't feed the trolls or take the bait. Maybe if we ignore them, they'll just go away.

Posted by: ManUnitdFan | September 10, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

From the context of Sen. Obama's speach, the "pig" referred to was clearly Sen. McCain. So in essence, wasn't Sen. Obama calling Sen. McCain a transexual pig? Now that would be something to be upset about. (I have no idea where this observation leads, but the thought struck me as so funny, I just had to share it.)

Posted by: garympg | September 10, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

John McCain said the exact same phrase earlier in the campaign. Was it in relation to Hillary Clinton? This is all silliness when we need to be talking about issues.

Posted by: theschiefs52 | September 10, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Gee - Why would the McCain team immediately think that "pig" was a reference to the Republican VP candidate? Was this a Freudian mind slip on their part?

Posted by: dbillue | September 10, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I find it pathetic that John McCain is letting his woman do his fighting. John McCain could draw crowds beyond a couple of hundred people. His message is tired, staid, and uninspiring.

Palin has so far prove to be a good answer to Obama's stardom but how long will this luster last?

Posted by: SteelWheel1 | September 10, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I agree with R.Stone. You know at first my heart was heavy, because it look like the GOP was going to do it again to another good canidate. But I have been going to newspaper web sites all over the country and if what I am reading its how people really feel Obama will be the next president. I know he was thrown off his mark with the appointment of Ms. Palin, but like he said enough is enough.

Posted by: Belinda Jackson | September 10, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

You know who cares if Sarah Palin sees herself as a "pig" maybe if she did not waddle in the muck and mire of dirty politics she would not see her image as a pig so easily. The Republicans are Ghetto-sizing this campaign with all of this baby momma drama..they are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill and whatever Obama says will be turned into something that it is not..enough already.. Bah-Hum-Bug on Community Organizers where is the outrage over that..

Posted by: lg. | September 10, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

JaxMax, I am so glad to find out that I am a Muslim who hates womem. I never knew. Last year when I thought I needed new curtains in the family room and the consultant tried to sell me $1200 worth of drapes, I looked her square in the eye and said "that would be putting lipstick on a pig, I think I'll wait until I can redecorate the whole room up the standards of $1200 drapes" (needless to say, rather than redecorate the room I found some lovely curtains at Target)

Who knew that I hate my own gender and am secretly Muslim? Guess I'll have to turn in my protestant choir robes.

Posted by: patriot | September 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Marcus, pleeaassse, excuse me. John McCain called Hillary Clinton a pig with lipstick. Should McCain apologize? You need to do some fact checking or are you just endosing Sarah Moosealini?

Posted by: the Monk. | September 10, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Once again the republicans have succeeded in drawing the other side into a soap opera. Feigned outrage or not is irrelevant. The media fans this flame and The One has now allowed himself to be sucked right into it. So much for superior judgment. Keep this up for a few more weeks and the election will be over. Issues be damned.

Fish cum pig story: McCain 1. Obama 0.

Posted by: tom007 | September 10, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Greg wrote: Makes you wonder how McCain would respond to a real slight: Maybe bomb Moscow, invade France, or just throw a hissy fit. This whole episode shows McCain is not mature enough to be president.
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You're so right..look what he did when Campbell Brown asked a serious question about Palin and the Alaskan national Guard ..McCain got in a huffy about that and would not appear on CNN for an interview.. Poor judgment and too much baby momma drama. If it looks like a pig and smells like a pig than it must be a pig... is Sarah looking in the mirror.

Posted by: lg. | September 10, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

The outrage expressed by the McCain camp is hilarious. I am sure that Sarah Barracuda's is tough enough to withstand the spin being put on Barack's comments BY HER OWN PARTY. Very nice Resnublicans, very skillful, very playground!

Posted by: greengirl | September 10, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Ludicrous!!

The "lipstick on a pig" cliche is so hackneyed and old that it predates my birth. And I'm on Medicare.

Obama did NOT insult Palin. He only offended the few people who care about English. But then politicians must do this sort of thing to connect to the hoi polloi.

Yes, Obama is a politician. Comparing the two campaigns, it's clear that he's closer by miles to being a different sort of politican than is McCain.

On the other hand, lies seem to win elections. Will that unfortunate idea win again and leave us with Bush's third term?

Posted by: Harry, Los Angeles | September 10, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

The only pigs I see are McCain/Palin supporters

Posted by: NoMcCain | September 10, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what the chimp said about the sow?

Posted by: Ross | September 10, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Nothing like fiddling while Rome burns... Could we have some serious issues here? This kind of fluff stuff just makes me want to SCREAM!!!

Posted by: mwalsh | September 10, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Let's see:

McCain demands Obama acknowledge that the Surge was a good idea.
McCain never acknowledges that the Invasion was a bad idea.

McCain calls Hillary's health plan "lipstick on a pig."
Obama calls labelling the Republican Platform (the most conservative in history) as "change" putting lipstick on a pig, so McCain charges that Obama is calling Palin a pig.

If Obama was calling Palin a pig, then McCain was calling Hillary a pig. Since McCain used the phrase first, perhaps he should apologize first. That's only fair.

Posted by: Martimr1 | September 10, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I dont think either party has made very good choices if they are spending their time "wallowing in the pig sty"... I want to know what they are going to do about the economy, Iraq, health care etc etc etc or is that too much for the voters to ask for

Posted by: sowafeam | September 10, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I agree with this false outrage, but I LOVE watching Obama back on his heels as he's being labeled a sexist. This is the same strategy Obama's campaign employed against Hillary with regard to race - Every critique was spun by his camp into somehow racially motivated, and it's what won him the nomination.

Bill Clinton is laughing his socks off.

Posted by: obamaisnodream | September 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin are uglier than Bush/Cheney at their worst. Seriously, do people want them talking to foreign leaders like that? Has Palin displayed any finesse or nuance? How about some rudimentary social graces, what we used to call simple decency? Does she have any? Why is she proud of being a breed of killer dog?

Posted by: jhbyer | September 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

JamesT.. why do you spew such hateful comments? If you have a point, it's lost in the hateful, ugly comments. You're a scary person

Posted by: geessh | September 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

folks, you can't make this stuff up. I mean, the highest level of unemployment in 5 years, fannie mae and freddie mac have to be taken over by our government, leamen brothers about to declare bankrupty, oil companies making obscene profits, all on Bush's watch mind you, forclosures and people losing there homes left and right,,and what are we talking about...a pig with lipstick. What will mccain or palin be outraged with today. Don't forget now McCain has a real bad temper so don't tick him off. Just when you think the republicans can't sink to a new low they do. Who CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A PIG WITH LIPSTICK. It seems fine and dandy when mccain and motormouth Palin smear Obama, and just plane lie and lie and lie. The republican party really know how to work the media and the stupid brainwashed people that follow them. Reading some of these comments, wow. It is plane to see that the republicans are indeed bring nothing but lies, smears and phoney outrage to the table. And it's also clear there are alot of stupid American people with absolutely no ability to see what the republicans do to them every 4 years, but hey what do I know, I'm just someone who didn't vote for Bush the first or second time and I never ever believed any of the crap about invading Iraq. What a sick country we live in full of sick, ingnorant people who I guess think America is heading in the right direction with mccain and palin.

Posted by: kubrickstan | September 10, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Are Republicans so out of touch that they are unfamiliar with the phrase "lipstick on a pig"? And so overly sensitive? Granted, I don't think the phrase was used until the 19th Century. How about this one: "You can't polish a turd."?

Posted by: filmlab | September 10, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Barack hammered it home earlier today. We need to hear more of that. Enough really is enough. Those types of attacks really need to be met forcefully and exposed for the stupidity they really represent. Also, if someone puts their views on faith and the real world concepts that attach to them out there to attract voters, everything they say in that vein is open to scrutiny, comment and rebuttal. Everything!!

Posted by: Phil, Fairfield, NJ | September 10, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but Sarah Palin reminds me of Gidget goes to Washington. (Oh gosh..) Her attacks on Senator Obama along with her distortions of her own record do not seem vice presidential to me or presidential. I think the attacks are disgusting just as I think it is disgusting to see John McCain standing behind her smiling while she spits them out.
I'm looking for a president who is educated, intelligent, articulate, thoughtful and doesn't spend all day hitting below the belt. I'm voting for Obama and McCain and Palin in the past week have only confirmed my earlier choice to support him.

Posted by: Enough | September 10, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

B. Hussein Obama is an ass in lipstick.

Posted by: XLiberalJack | September 10, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Obama cries foul at McCain's manufactured outrage? That's the pot calling the kettle black! Did I say something wrong? That's a common idiom...

Posted by: Puhleez | September 10, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Woman's issue: Senate votes on Ledbetter
Complete idiotic non-issue: lipstick on a pig

Using a metaphor in a campaign speech that might, conceivably, with a serious stretch of imagination, imply some impolite reference to a vice presidential candidate is not disrespecting women everywhere. Even were disrespect intended, I don't identify so thoroughly with Palin that I would take the comment as a slur on my entire gender.

Telling women that they have no meaningful protection against gender bias in their paychecks, and that you won't vote to change that because it might cause lawsuits against corporate America? Now THAT'S disrespecting women. I am not so easily distracted that John McCain's manufactured outrage will make me forget the substantial harm he has done to gender equality and to my ability to earn a fair wage.

Posted by: Suzanne | September 10, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA INJECTS MUSLIM THEMED SLUR "LIPSTICK ON A PIG"

Obama's lipstick on a pig comment--documented on his "TelePrompTer"-- is much more than just a sexist slur.

It is a deeply rooted Muslim slur.

Obama was indoctrinated in Muslim theology from birth. His Mother twice married Muslim men, voluntarily embracing their worldview.

Obama was further "indoctrinated" in Muslim schools.

And ask yourself, If schools can't indoctrinate children with religion, why does the US prohibit religion in our schools?

Obama admitted in a "Freudian" slip on ABC Sunday his "Muslim faith", which the "neutral journalist" quickly correct FOR Obama.

Obama says he is a Christian, but denies he ever listened to his Pastor's sermons etc....

So Gov. Palin is a fundamentalist Christian who Obama, with a strong Muslim indoctrination, compares to a pig--highly disdained in Muslim theology.

Posted by: JaxMax | September 10, 2008 2:02 PM
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The above is in whole a baldface lie!

Stop posting lies you Swine!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

....Well, "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear."

Posted by: Telin | September 10, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is laughing his socks off.

Posted by: obamaisnodream | September 10, 2008 4:42 PM

Agree. If I remember correctly the Obama camp went nucular over the "fairy tale" remark by Bill. I guess this is karma payback.

Posted by: tom007 | September 10, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

who cares what the chimp says about the sow?

Posted by: eh | September 10, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I know this is silly. At the same time, I think the whole thing is tongue-in-cheek from the Republicans. I saw the video. Obama was being sneakily snide and can't take it when he gets called on the silly comment. He needs to lighten up and find a sense of humor. This kind of thing is just underscoring his professorial, detached, arrogant persona. I don't think the guy knows how to take a joke and keep on rolling. Remember: Palin made the original joke about the difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom about herself. We Americans love self deprecating humor. Name me one time when Obama has put himself down in similar fashion before 37 million people. Hillary had done it in the debate right before Obama said "You're likeable enough, Hillary." He just can't stand not being the center of attention.
Ms. Marcus, you're a great commentator. Keep up the good work but chuckle a bit too!

Posted by: Jackson | September 10, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

You're running for President of the United States, you're running for Vice President of the United States; you're looking to lead a country of 300 million people, being commander in chief of the armed forces or the first in line to assume that responsibility; you're expected to use the bully pulpit regarding health care, the economy, housing, medical, environmental issues, energy, etc., and your issue of concern is a tired old phrase "you can put lipstick on a pig and it will still be a pig?"

That's what's important in this campaign?

Even if the phrase was said intentionally, even if it was said specifically about Governor Palin, we're supposed to believe that Senator McCain and Governor Palin can be so upset about the remark but we should have confidence that they can deal with the senior leadership of our allies and friends as well as those we disagree with? They're that upset about an innocuous remark but we can expect them to be a leader in meeting with the Russian President or Prime Minister Putin, Prime Minister Malaki, or President Karzai? We expect them to be able to negotiate or meet our adversaries in Israel, North Korea, India, etc., to solve problems such as immigration with Mexico, but they're bothered by a pointless remark?

And I'm supposed to have faith in them? Faith in a vice presidential candidate, only a matter of weeks away from an election that could make her first in line to the presidency, yet she won't speak to the press or the public so they have an understanding of what her presidential philosophy is, but we're supposed to take seriously how dispectful or hurtful a remark such as "lipstick on a pig" is?

What will happen, and how will Senator McCain and Governor Palin react when something important happens.

Posted by: Dungarees | September 10, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

It is well known that McCain is mental - unstable - a HOT HEAD. Why should he get a pass on his gendered/cultist/elitist comments? McCain's voting record speaks volumes about women's choice, equal pay, etc.

McCain cannot run against his own voting record. He has clearly followed a GOP yellow brick road all the way to Washington for many, many years. Now all of a sudden, he has taken on progressive views? As Dennis Kucinich said at DNC, "wake up america". Is McCain a WOLF in SHEEP's CLOTHING / I mean is he wearing lipstick now to cover his skin cancer?

Posted by: Richard | September 10, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Obama wouldn't say it so I will. Palin as a mom, as a wife, and probably even as governor of Alaska is admirable. As a leader of our entire country she would be an abomination.

Posted by: gh in CO | September 10, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse


I wonder how Palin would respond to being called the "Great Satan" by the leader of a hostile country.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

It's the McCain campaign that seems to associate the word PIG with Sarah Palin - - they are the only ones making that connection. Poor woman - - her own campaign staff thinks that if someone uses the word pig they must be talking about her.

Posted by: patt | September 10, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

McCain may have conveniently forgotten (hey, the dude's, like, really old) that he once used the same analogy in a 2007 Chicago Tribune article about Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's health care plan. And I didn't hear anything about Hillary demanding an apology.

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," McCain is quoted as saying about Clinton's proposal.

Shameful!

Posted by: Natasha Hussein | September 10, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

a chimp in children's clothing is still a chimp

Posted by: Tom3 | September 10, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I could have sworn that John McCain, in his acceptance speech at the Republican Convention, said there is "no time for petty". I think he said it more than once.

I guess he changed his mind!!! There's plenty of time for petty!!!

I used to be a fan of his, but he was a different man then.

Posted by: jenny | September 10, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Palin and anything she has ever done doesn't matter. All you Republicans name one thing Cheney did for you in the last 8 years. Palin doesn't matter, VP's never do anything anyway.

Posted by: Jann | September 10, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like the Republicans are more interested in makin political Bacon than in debatin (the issues).....

Birddog

Posted by: Birddog | September 10, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Personally I prefer the imagery of Carabou Barbie better.

Posted by: gh in CO | September 10, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

a chimp in a dress is still a chimp

Posted by: Tom3 | September 10, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

If I were Palin I would be offended that people assume that putting lipstick on a pig had anything to do with me! Seems that by getting upset you are kind of acknowledging how close to home the comment was....

If I was Obama I would issue an apology immediately. Pigs on every farm across this great nation are probably upset over them being compared to Palin.

... Sorry for making light of this whole thing,, but I guess you can't teach on old dog new tricks... Oh darn... I just went and offended McCain... or dogs... or both.....

Posted by: supascience | September 10, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

"Palin has them worried."

Yeah. Repiglipcans scare teh bejesus out of me.

Posted by: castanea | September 10, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a big fat PIG and Palin is a SOW.
Pink Floyd: you are right Palin is literally a sow with her brood of 5, eating at the government's trough in Alaska. Entire Palin family is being supported by Alaskans who are clueless at how cunningly vicious Holy Sarah really is. Rove thinks he is going to win again, THIS TIME WE ARE FED UP! Enough of 8 years of Republican cheating, lying and incompetence. All good Americans should RISE UP and Kick Republicans out of office. Palin is a no good human being: cruel to animal, shooting at foxes from helicopters and allowing Polar Bears to drown. NO TO PALIN, NO TO MCCAIN. RISE UP AMERICANS, BRING DOWN THE MORONIC MCCAIN-PALIN. This is fun. McCain will be sorry. he just opene himself to ridicule. Bush kicked him in the butt - McCain loves torture.

Posted by: M. Stratas | September 10, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Oh, right - - I had forgotten about John McCains crude and cruel remarks about Chelsea Clinton's appearance - - when she was a 12 year old child.

What a swell guy.

Posted by: joan | September 10, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

You're right Jaxmax, Obama is a Muslim sleeper agent, indoctrinated at birth and groomed by the best mullahs in order to take over the U.S. and... I'm not sure, but something bad. We at the Center For Ridiculous Conspiracy Theories now have information proving that he's evil!! His middle name is the same as that guy that used to run Iraq!! Hell, Obama may even be his son!! (We're still working on our proof of that). Thank you JaxMax, you are truly a hero for having the courage to speak out about things you assume!!

Posted by: Sheps | September 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Do you think anyone in Mass ever took Jane Swift seriously? Even the Republicans here unceremoniously dumped her. She was badly swift-boated by Mitt Romney's henchmen and bailed out of the gubernatorial race. This gig does play up her penchant for shrill shrieking. She must be having a blast!

Posted by: Beverly in Boston | September 10, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

no way should a woman hold public office until she can prove on national television that she is a shriveled up old shrew.

Posted by: tp | September 10, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

With the country going straight down the tubes financially, our military totally unhinged by the unnecessary Bush-McCain Iraq war, our infrastructure crumbling into the flooding rivers, and our schools financially starved, The voters in this country are flocking to the party that has done the damage over the last eight years to elect a man who may not survive his term and wants to leave ,a heartbeat away,a woman who hardly qualifies to be an alderman in a large city, who disrespects community organizers who believes some god cares about the Iraq war, wants to teach creationism in our scientifically challenged schools, and has the irresponsibility to knowingly bring a child who will inevitably become a burden either to its siblings or society in later years into this world. If this is what Americans want then we all better have our children learn Mandarin Chinese.

Posted by: bob tichell | September 10, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

The repub convention was awful, did you see how big those families are? no more breeders in power!

Posted by: stop the breeders | September 10, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

This is just more from the GOP playbook - change the subject! Barack Obama was ridiculing the MCain effort to push for "change", which by all measurments is an oxymoron and a sham. The quick response they employed is to latch on the the lipstick/pig issue - which was put into our consciousness by the lady herself - only she referred to "pitbull". They "demand" an aplogy. Well, I think John Mccain should apologize to pigs. He never objected when his running mate equated herself to pitbulls; he is now descriminating against pigs.

Posted by: jblee | September 10, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Umbrage and bluster. I'm outraged at the McCain / Palin campaign using a vote for a program that seeks to address molestation be described to voters he thinks dimwitted as sex education for kindergarteners. That's evil. Just like mocking Obama's goodness in his work as a community organizer. Why does McCain what to protect Pedophiles?

Posted by: espressobeans | September 10, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

a chimp in a dress is still a chimp

Posted by: Tom3 | September 10, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama, in his IL speech on 090908, stated that American’s are stupid.
Is that kind of a person you want to have as a “leader”?
Obama can’t have a control of his own mouth how can he lead one of most powerful country in world?

I am sure not all Democrats agree with Obama. However, to vote for Obama, you can see how low intelligence the DO-NOTHING-Democrats voter have. Obama has no substance in his speeches or suggesting about improving the standard of average citizen. His standard reflects a street slang language he uses to attack Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin.

The language Obama used in his speeches to insult Sen. McCaine and Gov Palin is showing to each American that he could never be a COMMENDER IN CHIEF and it’s unacceptable by any standard. Obama has to earn to be a Commander in Chief and he will never earn that with his attitude and street gang behavior and language.

Obama is jealous of Gov. Palin and Sen. McCaine and his jealousy is reflecting through his and his stuff insulting words toward Gov. Palin and Sen. McCain using a street, drug dealer language; not even average street person would use such a language.

Obama should be ashamed of him self because Gov. Palin is a marred, mother of 5 children and don’t sit on a welfare “payroll” unlike many of them. Gov. Palin worked while Obama was using drugs and taxpayer’s money working only 94 days of possible 365 and got more taxpayer money for no work!

With his dictatorship thoughts and his street gang language Obama is showing not only he doesn’t have experience but also he has no intellectual diplomacy and he cannot lead his own household never less USA.

The American’s had enough of Clinton-Flower-Monica dirty deed from democrats and exporting American jobs to overseas, giving company’s a free ride on a tax write-off and waste of taxpayers money. That doesn’t call a “free trade”…. the name for it is “American citizen’s exploitation”…just as Obama said, “American’s are stupid”!

We don’t need Obama or any other democrat, like Obama, with a street language and a dictatorship to ruin our country.

Posted by: karoline1 | September 10, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

And yet Sarah Palin herself said the only difference between a pitbull and a hockey mom is lipstick. So she can liken herself to a dog but Obama can't use a very common and descriptive saw.

This is just proof that the McCain campaign is more of the same. Bush lite, McBush, McSame. Same old tactics. They are a campaign that claims to be new and exciting and yet they use the same old political correctness they whine about.

I can't wait for four more years of this.

Posted by: Adrasteia | September 10, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

The sooner McCain and Palin get rid of Karl Rove and his henchmen, and start focusing on the issues, the better off we'll all be. I'm sick and tired of hissy fits, snits, swift-boating and the general decline of political discourse in this nation.

Posted by: Silence Dogood | September 10, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Americans are stupid.

Blacks got to vote in 1865.
Women got to vote in 1918.
Therefore, black is better than woman.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

This woman is supposedly lining up for the most stressful and importand position in the world and she is worrying about weather she may or may not have been dissed?
Give me a break. This should be pretty much all we need to know about Granpa Catheter and Nurse Pittbull. I thought the conservatives were tuff. Now they say they need an apology from Barrack so they can heal?
Who makes money when the Oil Companies aquire more drilling leases? Alernative fuel research? No. Solar Power installations? No. Wind Power fields? No.
Oh The Oil Companies keep raking it i9n. they sure need that help from Sen. McCain.
Who keeps on making money by leaving healthcare as it is? Lets see....Pharmaceutical industry? Yes. Insurance Industry? Yes.
Who keeps on shipping jobs overseas when they get a tax break to do it?
Who makes money if the needed Green Revolution is never allowed to get off the ground because we are once again lulled by the right into a false sense that we have enough oil to satisfy our needs? Sen. McCain sure is going to help alot of deserving recipients.
Because after all Sen. Mccain says fundamentally our economy is strong. Just don't tell that to the 11% of homeowners in this country facingf forclosure or the 6% unemployed or the 320 million uninsured.
Wake up people. It's as simple as reading a spread sheet. The facts speak for themselves. McCain thinks things are fine. he's doing well and tgherefore there is no reason you should not be doing well yourselves.

Posted by: B.Rollens | September 10, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

There was no out cry when Palin made the lipstick statement, if this was to add to her credentials she failed, she focused on gender with a stupid, going nowhere statement, when Obama responded he sucker punched her. I would like to know how a woman of her age is capable of getting her figure back so quickly after giving birth recently. Exaggeration, deliberate lies defines ones' character.

Posted by: deeCole Montg. Al | September 10, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

a chimp in a suit is still a chimp

Posted by: Tom3 | September 10, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I truly think the mccain camp overplayed their hand - it was such blatant hooey. Obama's response pointed out just what they're doing - he just needs to keep sayin' it. Obama exposed the mccain camp on two levels - first they're not discussing the issues, and secondly, they're going to try and paint everything as sexist. I think they blew their wad on this one - the can't go to that well anymore.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

You're right Jaxmax, Obama is a Muslim sleeper agent, indoctrinated at birth and groomed by the best mullahs in order to take over the U.S. and... I'm not sure, but something bad. We at the Center For Ridiculous Conspiracy Theories now have information proving that he's evil!! His middle name is the same as that guy that used to run Iraq!! Hell, Obama may even be his son!! (We're still working on our proof of that). Thank you JaxMax, you are truly a hero for having the courage to speak out about things you assume!!

Posted by: Sheps |
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Yes. I am likewise truely grateful for the diligence and undeniable evidence that only you and you alone have been able to wrench from the inpenetrable, iron fists of the Al-Queda underworld. I have taken the initiative to submit your name and your brilliant research to The Department of Home Security and your special George Bush/Dick Cheney Spy Pen will be arrivingf in the mail soon. Again on behalf of My country and it's citizens we applaud and thank you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

You know the more I see this Lipstick story the more that I believe McCain, Sarah and Karl Rove may have overplaid thier cheating hand.

Posted by: B.Rollens | September 10, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Karoline, to call your views dim would be an insult to 4 watt bulbs. First word you need to learn: spellcheck.
Secondly, It's the Republican policies that have gotten us into this mess. The tax breaks to corporations for moving overseas came from Republicans (so long American jobs). The Republican controlled congress beginning with the Newt Gingrich era and all the way thru, and helped along by, the Bush administration, have borrowed money from China and Saudi Arabia to fund their spending spree, like a 15 yer old girl with a new credit card. The Republicans have grown the Federal Government to epic proportions. They've sold out the middle class. I grew up Republican and now I'm a registered independent. I'd gladly vote Republican if there was a real, honest fiscal conservative left!! Let go of the ideology and read a book!!

Posted by: Sheppy | September 10, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

He wasn't talking about Palin. How dare McCain jump to such a conclusion. Is this how he thinks of his running mate? The mere mention of lipstick on a pig and he thinks of Sarah Palin. Never mind that he himself has used this phrase as has every other politician in the biz. Lipstick on a pig-- that very well sums up the new GOP look, don't you think?

We are 500 BILLION dollars in the hole thanks to their party's leadership. John McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time. Now he is the candidate for change. Oink Oink Oink.

Posted by: mo | September 10, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

It's the economy, stupid.

And the McCants campaign (hockey mom and all) can't deny that simple fact.

So they put up this cr@p to divert our attention to the weakness of their ticket, as well as what the nominees for the post of President of the United States should be talking about.

Shame on McCain, shame on the media for making this 'non-article' somehow news, and shame on us for succumbing to it. Senator called it for what it was - pork. Just like McCain himself did before he jettisoned the 'maverick' label for one less meaningful.

And on the losing side of his own personal history.

His loss...

Posted by: Captain John | September 10, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin: Lipstick on a Pig

That is THE best characterization of the ridiculous contradictory duo that the Republicans have put up against a real move toward change.

Obama/Biden: Change We Can Believe In

Posted by: Terry Carroll | September 10, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Alex Farnsley -
I couldn't agree with you more. McCain lost pretty much all his credibility when he brought the same Bush league political hitmen who viciously smeared him and his family in 2000 once he started getting visions of the White House dancing in his head again. He brought the whole entourage on with Bush's blessings back in 2007 but they fled like rats from a sinking ship when he couldn't raise enough money to support them. The "Straight Talk" Express was resurrected out of necessity because it was the best he could afford at the time. Now the money's back and so are the Rovian goons who have now fled the Titanic like disaster of the Bush presidency. It's pretty funny listening to Cindy McCain complain about being offended by the current spotlight on her family's wealth when she has admitted having been brought to tears by the Bush campaign attack tactics in 2000.

These are the same people who in 2000 argued that McCain's time as a POW in Vietnam had left him too psychologically unstable to be president who now can't say enough about how his time as a POW uniquely qualifies him to be president.
McCain's talk of change would be a lot more convincing if he didn't have the same vultures circling his campaign attacking his opponent instead of him this time.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

karoline1-
Normally I don't bother to criticize spelling on a discussion board. Who really has more than a few minutes to spare during the day to post to discussion boards anyway, much less run a spell check?

But considering the deplorable state of your spelling and grammar as you criticize Senator Obama for his supposed "street slang" and "gang language"....

Well the irony was just too outrageous to let it go completely unremarked.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me that the latest news cycle shows the GOP trying to make it a Obama vs. Palin race. The old white woman being attacked by a black man kind of thing. It should play well in the collective conscience of several states.

The GOP has a great marketing strategy. Now if they could only govern a republic.

Posted by: jfp | September 10, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

My first reaction upon hearing Barack Obama's "lipstick on a pig" remark was that it was deliberate. Not a deliberate attempt to smear Sarah Palin per se, but a deliberate attempt to provoke exactly the sort of fanatical reaction that they have gotten from the Republicans. The McCain campaign has spent a week campaigning on big themes and big personalities, and gotten a fair amount of mileage out of it. This takes everyone back down a notch, back down to the tedium and banality of partisan politics. It would be wishful thinking to call it a momentum-changer, but it may by default be a momentum-stopper. The convention/Palinmania phase of the news cycle -- a phase the Republicans clearly thought they were winning -- is now over. -- source fivethirtyeight

Posted by: Shawn | September 10, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse


I just watched a news report on the McCain/Palin rally in Fairfax, Virginia today. A mom at the rally, who was holding a baby on her hip, was interviewed for her reactions. She said something like "Palin gives me hope that I can still do great things too."

Yeesh. This mom seemed to mean that motherhood had robbed her of opportunities to accomplish great things. Therefore, she intends to vote for Palin and live vicariously through her.

I think women deserve a woman candidate of substance. While apparently effective, using a lightweight like Palin to play on the average woman's broken dreams and get her to forget about the issues is shameful.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

This is out of the Karl Rove textbook. McCain's campaign chief is Steve Schmidt, a Rove protege, and Rove himself is an unpaid consultant. ("They ask me questions," as Rove put it.)

It's silly and it works. It has degraded the political process. The Republican party is now addicted to these cynical and underhanded techniques. It will probably land McCain in the White House and ultimately give us a President Palin. All of us will lose.

Posted by: Robert Maxwell | September 10, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the WPost could lend Robin Givhan to Mr. Obama for a little hatchet job.

Posted by: JerseyJim | September 10, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

"Cannabis linked to earlier psychosis onset..." This explains why so many left-wingers are becoming unhinged over Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Not having read all the comments, I am actually somewhat shocked if none else picked up on the statement by former Governor Smith's that "as far as she knows Governor Palin is the only candidate wearing lipstick." This is clearly an anti-gay "girlie man" veiled reference meant to cast doubt on Obama.

Posted by: Jon Wright | September 10, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

IF ITS OUTLANDISH THEN STOP TALKING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: doublesc | September 10, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for the typo-- I meant former Governore Swift.

Posted by: Jon Wright | September 10, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Why aren't we talking about how McCain and Palin are traitors to their nation?

In Hanoi, McCain caved to his tormentors and signed the confessions condemning the US and taped videos for Communist propaganda.

Palin supports the Alaska Independence Party whose leader claims to hate the US and swore to have his body buried someplace besides Alaska until such time as Alaska becomes independent. He swore he would not be buried under the US flag.

Can you imagine the outrage of the Banana Republicans if Democratic candidates had done the things that McCain and Palin have done.

Yes take the lipstick off Palin and McCain are still pigs.

Posted by: T | September 10, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Ms Marcus:

How many reporters for WaPo are writing about the "lipstick on a pig," comment? Too many. Doesn't your editor say "Enough!" lipstick stories already? I know you adoring Obama MSM surrogates got your email from the Obama campaign to attack McCain.

First of all, if Obama had just mentioned the lipstick on a pig, that would be bad enough (the reaction of the crowd speaks volumes as to what Obama was referring to), but the old fish comment came right after that, meant Obama knew what he was doing. He was baiting the McCain campaign and used you (the adoring MSM surrogates) as the sucker punch.

Lipstick = Palin

Old fish = McCain

(I had to spell it out for you.)

It's going to backfire on Obama, the same way that your article on Palin, questions whether she should work or stay home with the kids.

Anything to get your guy Obama elected. Attack at any cost.

The public has finally smoked out the true identities of the MSM. They aren't fair but biased. I know columnists give their own opinions, but you guys run with stories without checking with the other side, and then you have to back-pedal.

Posted by: J | September 10, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

JaxMax has an interesting point. In the muslim faith the pig is dirty. Hmm! No matter how we look at it Nobama had to leave his Ivory Tower and explain what he meant.But didn't his audience hoot, holler and clap. They knew what he meant. By the way, McCain and Palin have not said they are outraged. Nobama stepped in it, and we are all laughing.

Posted by: annalee | September 10, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama could not possibly be so dense that he’d not realized that Palin had co-opted “lipstick” for the foreseeable future of political rhetoric. The comment was made to take some of the punch away from a profoundly popular speech made during the RNC. He clumsily exposed himself to this possible backlash. Democrats are largely responsible for the political correctness that we now must tiptoe through – it’s only fitting they get caught in their own mess from time to time.

Posted by: man up and own it | September 10, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

What do McCain and Palin believe in? ANYTHING?

Oh, wait. McCain is going to "fight" for people and "change" the country by killing a few hundred million in earmarks. Beyond that, I haven't heard anything specific. Well, he also said something about post-partisan politics, being a uniter and not a divider, right?

And they accuse Obama of being the candidate of "just words"?

Why would anyone want to keep the Republicans in power?

Posted by: Hidey Ho | September 10, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Below is a list of the books Sarah Palin tried to have

banned from the Wasilla, Alaska

This list is taken from

the official minutes of the Wasilla Library

Board.

A Clockwork Orange by Anthony

Burgess

A Wrinkle in Time by

Madeleine L’Engle

Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden

As I Lay Dying by William

Faulkner

Blubber by Judy Blume

Brave New World by Aldous Huxley

Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine

Paterson

Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer

Carrie by Stephen King

Catch-22 by Joseph

Heller

Christine by Stephen

King

Confessions by

Jean-Jacques Rousseau

Cujo by Stephen King

Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen

Daddy’s Roommate by Michael

Willhoite

Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck

Death of a Salesman by Arthur

Miller

Decameron by

Boccaccio

East of Eden by John Steinbeck

Fallen Angels by Walter

Myers

Fanny Hill (Memoirs

of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland

Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes

Forever by Judy Blume

Grendel by John Champlin

Gardner

Halloween ABC by Eve

Merriam

Harry Potter and the

Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K.

Rowling

Harry Potter and the

Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K.

Rowling

Have to Go by Robert

Munsch

Heather Has Two

Mommies by Leslea Newman

How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell

Huckleberry Finn by Mark

Twain

I Know Why the Caged

Bird Sings by Maya Angelou

Impressions edited by Jack Booth

In the Night Kitchen by Maurice

Sendak

It’s Okay if You

Don’t

Love Me by Norma Klein

James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl

Lady Chatterley’s Lover by D.H.

Lawrence

Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman

Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and

Wilhelm Grimm

Lord of the Flies by William Golding

Love is One of the Choices by Norma

Klein

Lysistrata by

Aristophanes

More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin

Schwartz

My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and

Christopher Collier

My House by Nikki Giovanni

My Friend Flicka by Mary O’Hara

Night Chills by Dean

Koontz

Of Mice and Men by

John Steinbeck

On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer

One Day in The Life of Ivan

Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn

One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest by Ken Kesey

One Hundred Years of Solitude by

Gabriel Garcia Marquez

Ordinary People by Judith Guest

Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston

Women’s Health Collective

Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy

Revolting Rhymes by Roald

Dahl

Scary Stories 3: More

Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz

Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz

Separate Peace by John

Knowles

Silas Marner by

George Eliot

Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice

Burroughs

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark

Twain

The Adventures of Tom

Sawyer by Mark

Twain

The Bastard by John Jakes

The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger

The Chocolate War by Robert

Cormier

The Color Purple by

Alice Walker

The Devil’s Alternative by Frederick Forsyth

The Figure in the Shadows by John

Bellairs

The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck

The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine

Paterson

The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood

The Headless Cupid by Zilpha

Snyder

The Learning Tree by

Gordon Parks

The Living Bible by William C. Bower

The Merchant of Venice by William

Shakespeare

The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles

Wibbelsman

The Pigman by Paul Zindel

The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders

The Shining by Stephen

King

The Witches by Roald

Dahl

The Witches of Worm

by Zilpha Snyder

Then Again, Maybe I Won’t by Judy Blume

To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper

Lee

Twelfth Night by

William Shakespeare

Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the

Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff

Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the

Halloween

Symbols by Edna Barth

Posted by: H1 | September 10, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

This was funny.

Posted by: K Ackermann | September 10, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

If the republicans are really as thin skinned as to take offense at this kind of comment, they certainly aren't up to dealing with terrorists.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Here is the problem with our politics. Marcus writes: "You have to give the McCain campaign credit for pulling this one off with a straight face, lipsticked or not."

No, you don't. You only need to credit them for telling lies and show revulsion that they have the audacity to do with a straight face. Such conduct is grounds for disqualification to be the nation's leader.

While appearing to mock Obama, the McCain campaign is really mocking the media and the American public. We all deserve better than this.

Posted by: wohesq | September 10, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Someone needs to tell the right that repeating something "change" or declaring a war on something "drugs"or "terrorism". Does nothing unless you make intelligent,reasonalbe decisions and carry thru with those plans. Just because Sarah was an agressive girl in school, likes to hunt,took advantage of forgone changing of the guard in the state she has governed for less than 18 months does not qualify her to perhaps become the most powerful person in the world.
I don't care what you repeat. Barack has shown the judgement, initiative and the willingness to help those less fortunate before it was politically expedient. Sarah has only taken advantage of the situation. What kind of woman would forgo the most important and formative years of a new family's life to untertake something that will exclude her from a meaningful and influential relationship with them?Is this her brand of judgement? Than again maybe they will be better off without mama's lies and influence.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I do not relate in anyway to Sarah Palin. I am a working mother of two and she is not like me and I am offended every time I hear a woman say she is just like all of us!

Posted by: R. Caton | September 10, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Me Damn America

Posted by: Barack Hussein | September 10, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

How come nobody noticed that they found someone named Swift to deliver this Swift Boat attack?

Posted by: RBuschFL | September 10, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

The wolves are back.
Barack should say that if you
put lipstick on a wolf, it's still
a wolf.

Don't apologize. Don't stupe to their level.

Fight back by ignoring them. Obama is
getting some of his momentum back.

Get more surrogates out there. I think
white men would work more than a woman.
Put Palin in her place. We can't be
dumb enough to have a hockey mom in the
white house. McCain is one heartbeat away.

Don't be so nice. Talk about the ideas, but Obama is playing right into Rove's
hands if he even responds. Obama get
Michelle's advice. Fight. Fight for us, not for them.

Posted by: LAmachine | September 10, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see that vast collection of preserved Republican souls Karl Rove has on his shelf. McCain was nearly destroyed by the man and then turns around and enlists his services to do the same vile thing to someone else. That is a real maverick that is. He has spit on everything honorable and good he once stood for. He should be ashamed. But that is the humanistic response you lose when you sell that soul.

Posted by: B.Rollens | September 10, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama is going to win this thing. Educated Republicans who vote based on taxes will see they are going to have a bigger tax cut under Obama, see Palin as too extreme and a threat to national security, and swing Obama.

http://ObamaTaxCut.com

Posted by: Ni | September 10, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

THIS JUST IN!!!!!!
John Lennon is seen insulting 6 year old Sarah Heath Palin in this photo from 1970:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:JohnLennonImaginePostcard.jpg

Posted by: Dianne71 | September 10, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

the "pit-bull" turns out to be a cute little barking puddle, who after you bark back at it runs and hides behind the trainers. I wonder how this "pit-bull" will face Putin the Doberman

Posted by: aafshar | September 10, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

I believe their may be a mistake when everyone says Obama did not make this remark on purpose to expose the McCain campaign for what it is.

McCains' is a shallow sadistic campaign that cannot win on issues so it has gone to rovian tactics that worked for bush. McCain prays day and night to Satan that his fear and smear will unseat Obama.

Obama is much too shrewd to make a major mistake like attacking saint Sarah - but his is the genius that will invoke the media to belittle McCain and company for petty attacks of sexism where none existed.

Have no fear folks - Obama is a bright polititian and KNOWS what to do to beat Bush trying to get a 3rd term.

Posted by: Bob W. | September 10, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Note to McCain camp: Palin is the LIPSTICK, not the pig. Get it? Behind all the hockey mom glamour and memorized speeches, it's still the same old crap...

Posted by: Washington DC | September 10, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

That's the way to go, Obama -- no apologies! Enough with this hypocrisy! No apologies to the shameless swiftboaters with faux hyper-sensitivities. Don't throw your pearls before swine (Luke, 11:9-13).

Posted by: Sick-of-it-all | September 10, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are complaining that Obama is comparing Sarah Palin with pigs. Ourageous!!!!! Pigs deserve better.

Posted by: Jay | September 10, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Why did Sarah Palin have a Down Syndrome baby? Because John McCain's the father!

Posted by: DazzleU, Esq. | September 10, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Why would anyone think that Obama was talking about Palin, unless they, themselves, were of the opinion that she resembles a pig?

Posted by: Chris in Oregon | September 10, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

It has gotten absurd. I have been watching MSNBC which has been reviewing the "pig" controversy.

One good congresswoman from Oklahoma suggested that because the crowd laughed when Obama said, "...lipsitck on a pig..." that he was talking about Palin. Let me get this straight, because the people laughed, it meant he was talking about Sarah Palin.

Everytime that they show other politicians using the same comment, both the politican smiles and the audience laughs.

Am I missing something? The full context of Obama's remarks clearly indicates no such reference.

Are these Republicans real?

Whiners, whiners, whiners, That is all the Republicans are. They dish it out and then spin a gag line.

Posted by: Earl C | September 10, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Maslow’s “Take” on the Election

By Bob Mann, Golf Professional
9/9/2008


Abraham Maslow said “To distract people from higher needs, threaten their lower needs.”
The Republican strategy of giving their convention a war and patriotism theme was quite brilliant. It changed the focus from such issues as health care, education, global warming and long term alternate energy development, and even to large measure, the economy; to the more fundamental human need to feel safe.

As Bob Woodward noted in his recent interview with Larry King, the President is not the Commander in Chief of the economy or global warming. The President is the Commander in Chief of the military.

The polls have shown that Senator McCain is perceived by the American public as more suited to be responsible for national security than Senator Obama. The Republicans are openly selling “inexperience” vs. Obama, but less openly they are selling “fear”. Ultimately, the peoples greatest fear, for themselves, and their families, is annihilation.

Unfortunately many people see bravado talk and aggressive action as the “answers” to fear related national security issues. (This, coupled with Senator McCain’s military service and family heritage gives many people a greater sense of false security.) However, the reverse is true; reserve, caution, negotiation, and having a strong military in reserve enhance national security. As President Clinton said, “..we lead by the power of our example, not by the example of our power.”

In spite of the evidence that we are militarily weaker as a result of the ill-founded invasion of Iraq, proposed by Senator McCain long before it actually occurred; a majority of Americans see Senator McCain’s approach to national security as being better then Senator Obama’s. Iraq has our military so over extended that we are not well prepared to face other situations that may arise, and are more likely to arise, because others recognize that we are over extended, which weakens our negotiating position.

Senator McCain continues to make hawkish noise; including implied threats that, as well as being inflammatory to other countries who might pose a threat, also distances us from our European allies.

In October 1st, 2003 on ABC nightline Senator McCain was asked how much more money the war would cost. He replied, “Estimates I hear as much as 50 to $55 billion more.” When asked, “Over a course of how many years?” McCain answered, “..four or five years.” Five years have passed with no end in sight, and Senator McCain’s estimate of maximum cost has been surpassed by approximately 10 to 1.

Senator McCain brags about his support of the Surge and its effectiveness. This claim is subject to serious question as many experts believe that the turn around in Iraq was more attributable to putting the enemies on our payroll. Moreover, Senator McCain’s bragging about the Surge can be compared to the person who makes a bad judgment about maintaining their car, but brags about repairing it at a cost many multiples of the original neglected service.

Senator McCain’s selection of Governor Palin to be a heartbeat away from a position of invoking nuclear holocaust on the world raises additional questions about his judgment, decision making process, and his motives.

Senator Obama’s campaign needs to make it clear that Senator McCain’s aggressiveness, has in the past, and will in the future, if left unbridled, weaken us militarily by depleting resources. It is not enough to merely point out Senator McCain’s bad judgment, the other shoe must drop, and Senator McCain’s bad judgment and hasty reactions must be clearly defined as weakening national security if permitted to affect our future. Senator Obama’s approach, using military force only as a last resort, and only following negotiation, strengthens us in two ways:
A) Enables negotiations to be conducted from a position of un-dissipated strength
B) Holds military might in reserve to use when and if genuinely required.

Senator Obama’s plan for better treatment of returning veterans coupled with his educational and occupational proposals for military personnel enhances recruiting and thus is superior for strengthening us militarily as compared to Senator McCain’s approach.

The Importance of rebuilding our alliances around the world should be more emphatically communicated as well, so Americans understand that we are stronger and more secure having Senator Obama as our next President, (who our European allies prefer over McCain by a 9 to 1 margin).

When Americans come to understand the superiority of Senator Obama’s temperament and approach to national security, compared to Senator McCain’s, they will recognize that Senator Obama is far more qualified to serve as Commander in Chief.

Posted by: Bob Mann | September 10, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Shouldn't McCain be upset that Obama says his policies are no different than Bush's (which got us in the mess in the first place)?

Apparently, he doesn't have a problem with that.. hm... strange... isn't that a much bigger insult?

Why doesn't he address that issue instead of whining about some perceived slight? Why doesn't he point out that he would do everything different than Bush did and get us out of this mess (record trade deficit, record budget deficit, worthless dollar, stagnating wages, escalating unemployment, addiction to oil...): no more tax cuts for the super wealthy, no more outsourcing of jobs, no more freezing of salaries, no more pandering to the oil companies,...

oh wait... he's FOR all that!!!!

Isn't doing the same things twice and expecting the same result the definition of insanity? (at least according to Einstein)

PS: I would appreciate it if everyone (media) included would stop debating nonsensical issues and focus on what matters. In case nobody has noticed: America is a mess. Time to fix it.

Posted by: Tom | September 10, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Let's see how tough Sarah Palin is. Will she call off the Republican attack dogs on the "pigs" issue. I bet she will not until just past the last possible second, like her stand on the bridge to nowhere. What a leader Sarah Palin is.

Whether a man or a woman, either must be able to show their metal in the political arena. How long will Sarah stay out of the lion's den with the news media? I have my doubts that Charles Gibson will be a great interviewer this weekend.

Posted by: Earl C | September 10, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, in the earlier post, I was obviously intending to write:

Isn't doing the same things twice and expecting a DIFFERENT result the definition of insanity? (at least according to Einstein)

Posted by: Tom | September 10, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Come on give me a break. How stupid or dumb does John McCain and the Republicans think Americans are? How in the world can McCain use the same phrase when talking about Hilary Clintons health plan yet be so outraged at Barrack. Of course it's just as Barrack says "they want to distract people from the facts" The republicans main strategy involves deception and lies. But on the other hand if this type of strategy has worked in the past why not continue to use it....."never look a gift horse in the mouth" Let me apologize now to all the horses on John McCains ranch before the republicans get outraged. America don't be fooled by the "ole okie dokie."

Posted by: use2bplaya | September 10, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Ruth--

Still recovering from your last article on the Palin kid's pregnancy--by the way how is your sex ed efforts with your kids doing? We want details since you brought it up.

Posted by: Zippy in Annapolis | September 10, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama's response to McCain's silly demand for an apology over lipstick-gate should be carefully modulated, thoughtful, dignified and diplomatic.

Something, in other words, like "drop dead."

Posted by: havener938 | September 10, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Tom, I agree with you last comment. However, the Republicans will do all in their power to make this a campaign about personalities. I have already been reading polls about which candidate would you want to have dinner with and so on. Really important issues. Pathetic.

The Repubs have not had any real issues in such a long time that they do not know what they are.(We call this being out of touch.) As someone said, "Republicans make a good loyal opposition party, but they cannot govern."

Posted by: Earl C | September 10, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse


Isn't it rare? Aren't they a pair?

The questions about whether Obama or Nasty Girl Palin are competent swirl about...

but it's McCain-- old, senile and smoldering with anger--who would be the worst problem, simply because someone might think he knew what he was doing.
And by the way, folks, he's never been a man of truth.

Like being in a horrid prison in the last century is the requisite for beinng new and
fresh in THIS century? Bonkers.

Are Americans crazy/

Posted by: elizabeth | September 10, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to John McCain? The guy is unrecognizable from the one who ran in 2000. He gets rightfully accused of supporting all of Bush's policies, and repackaging them as change, which is indeed putting lipstick on a pig. Then, after getting hit in a sensitive spot McCain puts out an ad that is a complete, lie. And hides behind his VP's skirts to boot. War hero? Man of integrity? What happened? The change McCain is talking about is him. Man has he changed. On the news program I caught tonight, they called McCain a liar. No euphemisms, they called him one. Sorry, but I don't want an out and out, unabashed liar as President. We have real problems in this country, folks. And this is what we get as debate.

Posted by: orrg1 | September 10, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

John McCain's campaign manager said that they were going to have to try to make this election about something OTHER than ISSUES. What more do the people need to know? This is truly scary.

Posted by: trace1 | September 10, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Barack has been dead on with his response to the "pig" comment. We'll see the Barack that we haven't seen yet. He is brilliant and not subject to fits of stupidity. He accepts the challenge to beat the low-life Republicans at their own game without getting into their mud pit.

Deep inside, I hope that Barack calculated exactly what he was doing knowing that the Repubs had used the phrase ad naseum in the past, even the recent past. Hypocrisy exposed again.

Posted by: Earl C | September 10, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

as a red-head and rather tall, somewhat hirsute person with very large (size 14) feet, i was very insensed when governor palin referred to someone in her church's audience as a big red sasquatch for jesus. i took this as personal insult. she was obviously calling my very existence into question by referring to my appearance with cryptozoological metaphors.

moreover, my dog, a pitbull with a sweet disposition, is quite proud of her lipstick and wishes sarah palin would contrast herself with another species. daisy just doesn't understand why her choice in makeup should be used as a ploy for political gain.

Posted by: the phenomenologist | September 10, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

McCain has already proved from his own mouth on more than one occasion that he is a cheat and a liar. When he says that he did not say something and then is shown a video of himself saying it. His cheating on his first wife speaks volumes. His lying campaign is also an indication of worse things to come if he ever makes it to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Posted by: Earl C | September 10, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

At long last, have the Republicans no shame? Will they say literally anything to get these two people, McCain and Palin, elected? Next, we will be hearing from McCain et al that Obama has insulted fish everywhere, with his comment about their odor!

P.S. Summary of the "Great Ideas" from the Republican National Convention:

1. Stick it to the snobs!
2. Let the market create jobs!
3. McCain is really brave!
4. Obama's gonna cave!

In short, in the G.O.P., we have witnessed the neuronal power that God gave linoleum. --R. Pies

Posted by: Ron Pies | September 10, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

A previous comment reminded me of a very conservative minister who used to be pastor of my church before being shown the door for financial problems. He indicated in his sermon something snide about people who drive volvos and who are bald-headed. The most snide comments that I have ever heard have come from the right. I hear these comments at church regularly. They think nothing about telling off-color and bad jokes, even at church. It offends my sensitibility. I am moderate in a very conservative church. I pray for the day that my church will return to all things Bible and less politics.

Posted by: Earl C | September 10, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama was either too stupid or caught up in himself when he referred to lipstick on a pig, or it was a calculated move to rile up his followers by getting the Republicans to over-react. Either way, it was a major blunder.

Initially I thought it was intentional, given that McCain/Palin were having all this positive coverage and he looked like he was laboring. It was an attempt to damp down the emotional high of Republicans by injecting some downright meanness in the campaign. That Republicans would over-react and it would change the mood. He could always plausibly deny any vicious intent. The second metaphor in which he referred to a stinking "old fish" and not just a "fish" further convinced.

But enough commentators on both sides have said they don't think it was intentional to give me pause.

I still say it was intentional and as Cillizza has noted, enough people are convinced it is intentional to making it a big problem for the Obama campaign, in that it shows them to be either not paying attention, or downright mean.

Posted by: theduke | September 10, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Do you want to know what Sen. McCain really thinks about this lipstick tempest in a teapot? Watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM

Posted by: JohnD | September 10, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

The tide is turning. Repubs are going to take a big hit on the "pig" comment. There are literally dozens of about 8 Repubs who have used this expression. There is absolutely no context that allows Palin to be the target. They cannot even edit the take to make the connection other than to splice the several words involved. There is a book written by a Repub woman with this phrase a the actual title.

Posted by: Earl C | September 10, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

One more day when we discuss lipstick on pigs, and not war&warmongers, universal/single-payer healthcare, the sorry state of ALL education here, climate change, energy sources, clean air/water, workplace abuses, and the media monopoly that allows this trash to thrive. I heard today that 1 in 5 TV/newspaper viewer on the planet listens to/reads a medium issued by one man, Rupert Murdoch. Rupert Murdoch!! Who elected him emperor of the planet? He is a sleaze monger of the worst kind and should be ... overthrown!

Obama/Biden '08 -- the choice of the ... planet!

Posted by: Veryangryleft | September 10, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Biden has started with his stupid comments. Today he said Hillary would have been a better pick than him for vice president.

Oh boy Obama was to arrogant to pick Hillary and even his running mate believes it.

I love it.

Posted by: Biden the Idiot | September 10, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Watch this, John McCain uses LIPSTICK ON A PIG against HILARY:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w&eurl=http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/10/pigs/

Transcript

AUDIENCE: I noticed in your speech you avoided any comparison of your plan to HILARY CLINTON's plan. I'm curious, have you or your staff put a price tag on what you see coming out of her campaign on HILARY Care?

JOHN McCAIN: No, but there's many things that concern me about it. It's vaguely, not vaguely but eerily reminiscent of what they tried back in 1993. I THINK THEY PUT SOME LIPSTICK ON A PIG, BUT I'TS STILL A PIG.

Posted by: DarthVector | September 10, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

you've got to be kidding. didn't mccain just last year use exactly the same analogy to describe one of hillary clinton's proposals? and attack on an actual woman (unlike the current situation). Shame on you Mr. McCain

Posted by: linda kjarstad | September 10, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign badly needs to distract people from the serious economic problems this country is facing, because John McCain and the Replubicans have had their way on almost everything for the past 8 years. They're trying to turn this into a tablod level sleaze-fest in hopes that it will keep people from thinking about the reality of what a McCain presidency will be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq0rUSl3wnQ

Posted by: Lisa | September 10, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Why does Sarah Palin not talk to the media? If she is not ready for the pressure of the media then she is not ready for the pressure of being vice president. If a campaign refuses to let the media hold them accountable then THAT SHOULD BE THE FRONT PAGE STORY. If John McCain is SHIELDING Sarah Palin from the eyes of the media and thus the American people then THAT SHOULD BE THE FRONT PAGE STORY. All John McCain can do is CHANGE THE SUBJECT and REFUSE TO TALK ABOUT THE LAST 8 YEARS and why he has voted with BUSH 90% of the time. Political Mavericks and presidential candidates don't hide from the media; and, it’s a crying shame that the media took the bait and jumped all over this as if they were doing the McCain camps bidding. John McCain is taking the media for a ride straight to the presidency just the way that Bush did in 2000, and if the media lets it happen again then media in this is country are pathetic and it’s a crying shame.

Posted by: Anthony | September 10, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

The media held Hillary Clinton to the standard that she had to be "ready on day 1". How come it is acceptable then that Sarah Palin gets to be schooled by Bush-McCain advisors before she talks to the media?

Why does Sarah Palin not talk to the media? If she is not ready for the pressure of the media then she is not ready for the pressure of being vice president. If a campaign refuses to let the media hold them accountable then THAT SHOULD BE THE FRONT PAGE STORY. If John McCain is SHIELDING Sarah Palin from the eyes of the media and thus the American people then THAT SHOULD BE THE FRONT PAGE STORY. All John McCain can do is CHANGE THE SUBJECT and REFUSE TO TALK ABOUT THE LAST 8 YEARS and why he has voted with BUSH 90% of the time. Political Mavericks and presidential candidates don't hide from the media; and, it’s a crying shame that the media took the bait and jumped all over this as if they were doing the McCain camps bidding. John McCain is taking the media for a ride straight to the presidency just the way that Bush did in 2000, and if the media lets it happen again then media in this is country are pathetic and it’s a crying shame.

Posted by: Anthony | September 10, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of Obama's intent, Sarah Palin's lobbying for earmarks for her Alaskan home town seems more porcine than canine. Shouldn't we acknowledge this?

Posted by: Mike Boyd | September 10, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Here is your true pig:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoOFp-RDpvM

Oink Oink

Posted by: Nobama | September 10, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if Obama intended to call Palin a pig, but it sure sounded that way. "Lipstick" obviously has special meaning with regard to Palin. He should have stayed clear. After all, everyone knows you don't bend down to tie your shoes when walking through a watermelon patch. I think Obama is being too niggardly with his apologies.

Posted by: No offense, but... | September 10, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

What the far left does not want you to see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS4BW_8D5ys

wake up America!

Posted by: Nobama | September 10, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Right on the mark...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yknEG2Y6-y0

Posted by: Nobama | September 10, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Palin and women Palin is a pig
As mayor of Wasilla, Sara Palin charged victims of rape for the forensic testing and collection of evidence, rape kit. The troopers and most muni agencies covered the cost. Not the city of Wasilla, the police dept charged for the rape kit. Governor Tony Knowles an man put a stop to this in 2000. Sara appointed police Chief f Charlie Fannon he disagreed with the law. “The law will require the city and communities to come up with more funds to cover the costs of the forensic exams.” Knowles signs sexual assault bill frontiersman 5/23/2000
http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2000/05/23/news.txt
Recently she replaced the police commissioner with Chuck Kopp. He has a prior work record of sexual harassment that he was reprimanded for. Sara is obviously for abstinence only education, No abortion even in the case of rape, and incest Alaska is 1 in the country for rape and incest.
While its great she went back to work 3 days after having her child, what message does that send to bonding families, healing mothers and employers not happy with maternity leave. Sara has signed up with a man who has consistently voted against equal pay for women. Is she really a woman or is she a man trapped in a woman body with lipstick.

Posted by: Alaska woman | September 10, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

no more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEBS9kdCp8s

Posted by: Nobama | September 10, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

the bird and the bees...start young

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pO1dIKgfPw

Posted by: Nobama | September 10, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Republicans and social conservatives believe those of the opposite persuasion are effeminate. Why else would they oppose pointless and hugely expensive war? Why else would they prefer less saber-rattling and more talk? Republicans: the Daddy party. Democrats: the Mommy party. Wait 'til your Father gets home. (Then YOU are gonna get it(!), Mister.)

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | September 10, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Pigs are far more beautiful and sensitive than Sarah Palin, whose goal is to kill all the animals in Alaska, and who is enthusiastically on her way to achieving this goal. I would wonder, also, if anyone else has heard the rumors, and predictions that many large corporations are planning more massive layoffs, but are purposely waiting until after the election, to help the Repulsivecans win. In other words, after the moronic, deluded American electorate again chooses self destruction in November, thinking 8-houses McCain is one of them, soon afterwards, millions more of them will be laid off by McCain's bosses, and more jobs will be shipped out of the country.

Posted by: Elizabeth | September 10, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

lifetime achievement...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prhnc2fxAzg

Posted by: Nobama | September 10, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Either Obama bin Biden's speech writer deliberately had him call Governor Palin a pig, or his speech writer is an idiot who somehow thought no one would make the connection with what she said just last week.

This is the sort of screw up that looses elections. It is reminiscent of Howard Dean screaming or Mike Dukakis riding in a tank.

He's lucky he didn't call Hillary Clinton a pig or every feminist in the country would have clawed him to shreds.

Posted by: XLiberalJack | September 10, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Nobama is a big lying pile of crap. This is an old, moldy accusation that noone but Republican goofs believe. Here's the view from another angle. Just a scratch.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/fingergate/canderer/79695420le6.jpg?o=1

Posted by: orrg1 | September 10, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

There no defending this, it was a politically stupid thing to say at this point.

Posted by: BoneGhost | September 10, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Palin is cannibalistic pig. By all reports, she has the typical Alaskan appetite for pork, not moose.

Posted by: Ted Stevens distaff | September 10, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA'S LIMO SEX & DRUG PARTY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY

WoW!

Posted by: Nobama | September 10, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

McCain's outrage is his glee in disguise. If he can keep the focus off the issues and off the fact that he and Palin would be as bad as Bush and Cheney, then he knows his chances for being elected go up. Look for him to get very huffy very often.

Posted by: Oh Please | September 10, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Ello Wordl leaders and exporters of Democracy "US STYLE" - this election sicne the Mc Cain VP pick has descended into a cross between Jerry Springer/WWF/WWE/Jackass - thanks for the humour - but then we then think - hey this is the worlds so called leader - who tells everyone to be with them or against them...anyway you can pick who you want and we can decide wether the respect you demand from everyone is warranted...

anyway I think you should all go watch the B grade cult classic as seems very prophetic - especially with the campaign strategy being adopted at the moment... "Idiocracy"... here is a overview below....pretty accurate - makes Nostradamus look fraudulent

"Idiocracy is a 2006 American dark comedy directed by Mike Judge, and starring Luke Wilson and Maya Rudolph. The two main characters sign up for a military hibernation experiment that goes awry, and they awaken 500 years in the future. They discover that the world has devolved into a dystopia where marketing, commercialism, and cultural anti-intellectualism run rampant and dysgenic pressure has resulted in a uniformly stupid human society.

Despite its lack of a major theatrical release, the film has achieved something of a cult following because of its satire of the “dumbing down” of contemporary society and the breakdown of individual responsibility and consequences.

A narrator explains that natural selection is indifferent to intelligence, so that in a society in which intelligence is systematically debased, stupid people easily out-breed the intelligent, creating, over the course of five centuries, an irremediably dysfunctional society. Demographic superiority favours those least likely to advance society"

Posted by: Col in Paradise | September 10, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

orrg1 is scared of he truth. It's the old harvard flip. Yuppies use it. Stop wasting my time and live up to the fact. I guess you use that one on you mom, right?

Posted by: Nobama | September 10, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to the same Republicans who cheered the 2004 Swift-boaters to be suddenly moaning in exquisite pain over Obama's lack of sensitivity towards delicate little Sarah. Either a pig or a pitbull would be a safer choice for VP.

Posted by: TheWho? | September 10, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I'd say that "discretion is the better part of valor" when deciding whom & what to attck, or that the McCain campaign has cried "havoc" and let slip the dogs of war, but that clearly would be lost in the discourse (I use the term loosely) of this election cycle. SO:

Obama was calling Palin a pig? You'd hope that dog won't hunt! Amazingly, the Republicans succeeded in sending most of the media down a rabbit trail. Some took the bait. How bizarre that we allow this to be spoon-fed to us instead of demanding a discussion of the really meaty issues in this campaign.

NOTE: Nothing in this posting is intended to offend pigs, dogs, rabbits, fish, babies, carnivores, nor any other creatures great and small, with the exception of so-called "journalists" who waste their time (and ours) on this trash.

Posted by: English B.A. | September 10, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

No offense, but...

So now noone can use that expression anymore because of Palin? Stuff it! That's ridiculous! I expect Obama, now that he has explained how McCain repackaging Bush's lousy policies is "putting lipstick on a pig", will go into detail:

Calling staying in Iraq forever "change" is putting lipstick on a pig!
Saying increased tax cuts for oil companies and the richest 1% is change is putting lipstick on a pig!

Saying we can drill our way out of the energy crisis (Saudi's are already cutting to make up for reduced demand, they can afford to cut as much as we pump, then they'll have more and we'll have none, prices will stay the same), and calling this change, is putting lipstick on a pig!

Sorry McCain, the truth hurts! And sorry No offense - I'm offended by your idiocy.

Posted by: orrg1 | September 10, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Who is Donald Young?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFG8B0wBIWw&feature=related

find out...

Posted by: Nobama | September 10, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Its me again -mand just want to say Taxguru at 2.17 got it spot on with this in support of my claim that the US is well down the path for "Idiocracy"...this is just so true....

"For better or worse (I believe worse), the American people do not want a calm cool and collected brainiac for President. They don't want someone who seems better than themselves. They want someone like themselves.

Americans don't want nuance. They want Westerns with good guys and bad guys and they want the bad guys to end up shot dead. They want Dirty Harry and Rambo and Die Hard.

I think this will lead to the decline of our country. But telling people they SHOULD demand more sophisticated arguments is a sure way to lose this election. It is like the old saying about arguing with your spouse: do you want to be right or do you want to be married?"

It is a worry when a country that demands respect as the world leader and super power actually advocates stupidity over intellect.....good luck - and I think also republicans should stip calling democrats lefties - you have just announced the greatest nationalisation (Freddie and Fannie) in history and have the most regulated and protected economy of the major OECD nations - in fact those commies are become more capatilist than you - have surpluses - are bguying your assets -whilst you take planks out of there old economic manifestos of over 50 years ago...speaking of squealing like piggies - its bit like "deliverence" - youmay think your are paddling forward but you are actually heading backwards into the swamp even more....

Posted by: col in paradise | September 10, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

McZombie/Palin 08!!!

Posted by: Dip | September 10, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

"I agree with the criticism of the McCain campaign. Obama clearly did not intend to refer to Sarah Palin as a pig."

Well I don't agree - at all!!! Why did Obama say that? He didn't have to! And he did. He called Sarah Palin a stuck lipsticked PIG and that's just the way it is. Unbelievable!! I bet you all think he didn't mean to condescend with his guns and religion comment too? No of COURSE he didn't mean.... to get caught!!!

Posted by: egrib | September 10, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

As long as the media repeats these "incredibly trivial and ridiculously hyped campaign controversies" ad nauseum, giving them legitimacy, we'll keep suffering through them and avoid any discussion of actual issues.

It's up to you in the news media to ignore such garbage and instead press the candidates for their positions on the real issues of the day.

Rove plays you guys like a sock puppet.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand the Palin outrage. She's the first one who compared herself to a dog.

Posted by: Kay | September 10, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Ex-Gay Obama Had Homosexual Affair With Pastor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvVEzb0edPE

Posted by: Nobama | September 10, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

I suggest change how you report such "stories".

Instead of the headline reading:

McCAIN CAMP ACCUSES OBAMA OF SEXIST REMARK

try this one:

McCAIN CAMP LAUNCHES BASELESS ATTACK ON OBAMA; AVOIDS DISCUSSING REAL ISSUES

Posted by: Scorpio69er | September 10, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

karoline1:
I disagree with but respect your views. However, if you are going to make an argument about the relative merits of education and intelligence in society, perhaps you should locate either a dictionary or a spell-checker for all the hard words.

Posted by: M | September 10, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin '08

TWO PIGS IN A POKE

A common colloquial expression in the English language, to "buy a pig in a poke," is to make a risky purchase without inspecting the item beforehand. The phrase can also be applied to accepting an idea or plan without a full understanding of its basis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_in_a_poke

Posted by: patriot76 | September 10, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Ruth Marcus: You can't stop writing about Palin, can you? Have you written an editorial on this subject every day since she was added to the ticket? Ruth, you're better than that...and don't tell me if McCain would have said that about Hillary you and Susan Sarandon, Barbara Streisand and Madonna would have called for women all of the United States to burn their bras in protest.

Ruth: Write about something else, you're voice is getting tired and drowned out by the stampede of women moving over to support Palin. And in case you didn't notice, the new figures are in and McCain has registered as many new voters because of the pick...and by the way, they're women.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

I find it incredible that the Republican Campaign is stooping to such stupidity. Cheney and McCain used the same phrase during their campaigns. Of course we all know that McCain/Palin have to stoop to personality conflicts because they have no real issues to address.

Here is an interesting thought. If the McCain Campaign wants to spout sexism they need to look at themselves.

I have noticed that some men feel that they have to do things for a women she can do herself and they have a need to "protect" her. That is what the McCain campaign appears to be doing with Palin.

I've also noticed people who are interested in Palin spouting things such as 'you are so mean to her'. 'Leave her alone' and so forth. My goodness anyone can determine based on her own campaign speeches which are laced with much negatism against Obama that she doesn't need protection!

Believe you me that woman is no more helpless and vulnerable than Hilary Clinton. I can't imagine Hilary, if Obama had selected her as VP, letting Obama keep her from speaking alone and taking questions from the Media. That would have been an insult to her and it darn well is for most self-sufficient women.

McCain and Company join the real world. Since you selected Ms Palin then let her speak for herself and join the rest in the campaign and take her own questions from the media on her own. No one needs to speak for her or shelter her.

It didn't happen when she campaigned for Mayor and it didn't happen when she campaigned for Governor. She certainly didn't let men run her affairs for her while she was in the office as Mayor and Governor.

Face your fears Republicans and let the real race begin! You can't run a campaign on fear and dirty politics.

Posted by: Linda | September 10, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

McCain, a man who calls his wife a trollup and "c" word - laughs at a supporter calling Hillary the "b" word - He joked about Janet Reno Chelsea and Hillary Clinton in a lesbian/parentage scenario. He makes a joke that women like being raped by an ape. He himself has used that phrase repeatedly, including when refering to Hillary's health plan - was he calling Senator Clinton a pig?

Feigned outrage from the biggest sexist on capital hill that votes against every bill for women. Equal pay for women and more... wake up people....stop falling for this garbage, times a wasting!

Posted by: mallory | September 10, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Dear Ms. Marcus -

Please do all working women and working mothers a favor and stop writing. You have done enough to set back the fight against gender prejudice and discrimination, you can stop now.

I suppose if McCain said something like "putting a black in a suit" it would generate your outrage as terribly crude and insensitive. But bashing a woman is nothing to you - you are a woman basher of the best kind because you are a woman (albeit far more priviliged than most working women and mothers struggling to make ends meet with 33% less pay than their male coworkers).

Obama's remarks were poorly timed, crude, insensitive, and inappropriate. His refusal to acknowledge their offensive and demeaning nature is an insult to all women. I say he belongs in the boys locker room but not in the oval office representing the male and female citizens of this country.

Time for American women to say ENOUGH and demand CHANGE from our media and our country by voting for McCAIN/PALIN 08!

Posted by: Working Mother | September 10, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

shril, baby, shrill.

Posted by: whoeer | September 10, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse


"If this woman is offended by this comment, then this woman is too weak to be Vice-Commander in Chief."

Way to go Ms. Marcus - let's put weak women back in the Kitchen - at least you would finally stop writing your bigoted and discriminatory articles bashing women and we could start over again.

Women need to demand better of their media and hold woman bashing authors accountable for the damage they do to all women - both Democrat and Republican.

Posted by: Working Mother | September 10, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

"The Republicans are supposed to be the ones above being sensitive to anything even remotely politically incorrect, so why be so sensitive to this little remark? "

What planet do you live on, and can I please come visit?? Do you really think the last two national campaigns were about being sensitive and politically correct? The party of compassionate conservatives? The uniter, not a divider? The -hack - decider??????!

"It's up to you in the news media to ignore such garbage and instead press the candidates for their positions on the real issues of the day."

Uh, no. It's up to the press to call them on it, every day, as many times as they can. I want to know how a couple LIARS think that running for public office is an excuse to LIE your head off!

'Maverick' the end justifies the means McCain! Yee-haw! ROFLMAO.. oops, there it went..

Posted by: neo | September 10, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

You gotta be kidding?
This pig in lipstick openly made fun Obama reaching out to people in the community...eer what...a community service worker. If Palin is angry, she needs to get over herself. If she is not, then the press needs to get over her. A fish wrapped in old newspaper still stinks. I'm voting Obama. Not some fly by night hooker mom with a pregnant daughter to boot. Maybe alaska should have not have been a part of the U.S. Then we wouldn't have this wierd woman running for vp. Obama/Biden all the way!

Posted by: just another woma | September 10, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

May God have mercy on all of us and protect us from the evil that surrounds us each and every day in this world of sin. Lord, Bless and keep the martyrs from 9/11 and their families. My heart goes out to all those who are truly afraid and who might not be saved, in this day and time as we near the end of times. Regardless of what Christian denomination Americans belong to we are still all Americans and should act like it by praying for our dead tonight and tomorrow and remember that we are all in this together so as we tell our children to "get along" we should practice what we preach. The candidates would not be doing what they are doing if this country modeled tolerance and grace. The fact that we clammor for the worst and expect only the worst of everyone shows that we are indeed a country of mentally ill people who do not deserve anything more than we a getting, that is quite obvious, because if we thought we deserved anything more we would be running and impeaching everyone involved in the Bush Administration, but we aren't. We are sinking fast and laughing about it! What a country, I am ashamed of the model we are providing for our children. They will not stand a chance based on what they see and hear from the grownups such as the bloggers here who are speaking out with hatred against everyone and everything. "Any country that refuses to remember their past history is destined to repeat it." Our country is not going to fail, it already has...

Posted by: Dr. Pat Woods | September 10, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse


From:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/6lbfdv

Wednesday, September 10, 2008
Palinism: Politics as The Content-Free Violation of Expectation

What is Palinism?

What is it about?

What policies?

What ideas?

What positions?

Even in the Lincoln-Douglas debates, while no doubt many were motivated by regional partisanship, local prejudices, and "the measure" of the candidate, one suspects that at least a rough rendering of the issues--secession vs. Union, free vs. enslaved--was carried in and animated the crowds.

Now, it is pure reaction to pattern. To one impulse expectation violated by the provocation of another impulse, that feels--good.

We have reached the content-free phase of American politics.

A form, an image--glasses, hair, a voice, what it suggests--is enough. She could be speaking the words to the airport timetable, the swearing-in speech of Ferdinand Marcos, the ingredients of a
box of Sizzlean--the image, the sound, and the gathering impulse, the bare stirring from dull lack of novelty--is sufficient to awaken the crowds to angry perturbance at...the stimulus to be perturbed, and the bare sense of actual directed action and purpose that comes with doing so.

Palin herself wears a glazed, slightly confused look in her eyes--what is it that has unleashed this roar, this approbation. Being used to herself, and having been among those who are well used to her, she is unaware of the novelty that her mere form releases in the dazed electorate, yearning for a pretext for expression. Soon, she'll believe it herself.

And, after all, isn't that what democracy is all about? The ability to choose to decide without knowledge? Better yet, to choose your knowledge, irrespective of fact, in correspondence with the liberating, confirmation-free impulse?

This is what today's moment stands for.

These are our satisfactions and securities in this golden age.

Cite:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/6lbfdv

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

egrib: you need to study analogies. Obama was referring to McCain's policies as the pig. the saying means that even if you put lipstick on a pig, it's a pig. that's what McCain meant when he said Hillary's new health care plan was just an attempt to put lipstick on her old pig, her health plan. If Obama was thinking of Palin at all, and even Charles Krauthammer and Bill O'Reilly say he wasn't, Palin is the lipstick being put on McCain's old platform, not the pig. McCain's daughter says he uses it all the time, and the TV has found four clips of McCain saying it about Hillary and others. So McCain can say it about a woman and her policies and it's OK, and Obama can use it in reference to a man and his policies and suddenly he's calling Palin a pig? If American voters fall for this we will deserve what we get.

Posted by: JoeT | September 10, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Marcus Taylor: Just tell me who are going to vote for - this election and all the others in years to come - and I will know how to vote.

Posted by: Georges | September 10, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I would like to see Obama use the lipstick-pig line time after time. Maybe even do a commercial using his footage. Let the Karl Rove machine throw a hissy fit every time. The more Obama uses the very apt image of the McCain "Change" the better because it is so true.

Posted by: Lee Hackney | September 10, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

JaxMax: I was prepared to laugh as I read your entry, thinking that it was surely a joke, but then I realized you actually meant the things you said. How, I ask, can you be so ignorant? There is not one credible source that confirms that Obama is a Muslim, but if he were, so what? Do you think all Muslims are terrorists or lesser humans?

Obama wasn't "indoctrinated"-- he only knew his stepfather for a limited number of years in his early youth, before he moved to Hawaii to live with his white grandparents when he was 9 or 10 years old. He lived with his grandparents until he went to college. Obama met his father-- who was not religious-- once, when he was ten years old. Do you think he learned to be a terrorist before that? What has he done as a community organizer helping the poor, as a Harvard Law student, as a member of the Illinois senate, or as a U.S. Senator, that suggests he is in some way subversive or threatening?

Please stop this crazy talk and educate yourself. I'm sure you agree that it's a sin to bear false witness against another. And I'm sure you wouldn't want to be treated the way you're treating Barack Obama.
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OBAMA INJECTS MUSLIM THEMED SLUR "LIPSTICK ON A PIG"

Obama's lipstick on a pig comment--documented on his teleprompter-- is much more than just a sexist slur.

It is a deeeply rooted Muslim slur.

Obama was indoctinated in Muslim theology from birth. His Mother twice married Muslim men, voluntarily embracing their worldview.

Obama was further indoctrinated in Muslim schools.

And ask yourself, If schools can't indoctrinate children with religion, why does the US prohibit religion in our schools?

Obama admitted in a freudian slip on ABC Sunday his "Muslim faith", which the "neutral journalist" quickly correct FOR Obama.

Obama says he is a Christian, but denies he ever listened to his Pastor's sermons etc....

So Gov. Palin is a fundamentalist Christian who Obama, with a strong Muslim indoctrination, compares to a pig--highly disdained in Muslim theology.

Posted by: JaxMax | September 10, 2008 2:02 PM

Posted by: NER | September 10, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

It horrifies me to think that this is the kind of campaign Americans are willing to put up with and embrace.

I am frustrated watching it. Where I live we have REAL problems. Everywhere I go people indicate they are worried about their futures. I have not heard anything McCain says tell me what he plans to do for our futures.

He is making it clear he doesn't care about policy - what he wants to do is savage and disrespect the other side so we won't vote for him. It turns my stomach.

Posted by: Anne | September 10, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

The sky is falling!!!

The sky is falling!!!!

Get a grip, people...

Posted by: disgusted | September 10, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

So sad what Senator McCain has become or has allowed himself to become. I for one, up here in the swing state of NH will NOT be voting for him as I did in the primary. I guess he learned from the masters like Bush/Rove/Cheney that the only way we Republicans can win is not by the strength of our ideas but by slimeball tactics. We are not behaving in a Christian way in this campaign even though we say we are Christian and we impugn the faith of the other guy. All that is for the consumption of the poodles at the convention I guess.

If the hockey moms decide on giving this election to the Republicans for a third Bush term, then God help us all and you really are an incredibly stupid bunch of moms. Wow! the planet is falling apart as is our economy, Putin is getting stronger and you are prepared to hand it to a 72 year old who will be succeeded by a (no doubt very telegenic) woman who is totally unprepared to step in - I am sorry but one speech does not a VP make.

Could the Democrats have gotten away with hiding their Veep choice for 10+ days after s/he was selected? And how come if celebrity was such a bad word, we have one of our own in Gov. Palin?

P.S. Acting Gov. Jane Swift (of Ma)of the newly formed Palin Truth Squad: GIVE IT UP! You could not make it past your half a term b/c Gov. Romney decided to run and now it seems you are desperate for some sort of job in a Bush3 White House. That is really, really, no I mean really pathetic. The old McCain knew what truth looked like. The new one would not even if it hit him between the eyes.

Posted by: Pat C. | September 10, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

The thing everyone understands, is it wasn't the statement that was used, it was the long pause, now edited out in some reports, for laughter, that fired people up, we all are not stupid, be honest we all knew he meant. Obama got caught saying stupid, just like Trent Lott, admit it. To the Liberal Americans, just hope he didn’t Dukakis-ed or Dean-ed himself.

Posted by: me | September 10, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

A Republican from Arizona who is not getting fooled.
What do I see in Barack Obama? I see an intelligent, thoughtful, unflappable leader. I see a patriot who is rising up and putting himself forth for leadership of this great nation in its hour of need. Goodness knows, I would not want the job. I see a man who will perform the duties of the President of the United States with sober and thoughtful judgement. I see a man with the breadth and depth who can address many of these problems we face as a nation. I see a man who wants to bring us together. I don't pretend it will be easy, it will not be. There are big problems to be solved. We will need to come together, those of us on each side of the political spectrum. First to get Barack Obama elected, then to work to make America a better place. I will do my part to convince those I know that a vote for McCain will be a disaster.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/10/15218/4307/139/593799

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Well said. Obama owes nothing to Palin. I think her comments at the RNC were far worse, because they were a direct attack on him and his good work. She’s a b***h and her and McCain are scraping the barrel to find things to criticize Obama with. He’s just way too good for them.

Posted by: fl | September 10, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:41 PM

and what about Joe Lieberman? is he no less fooled?

Posted by: me | September 10, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Obama was either too stupid or caught up in himself when he referred to lipstick on a pig, or it was a calculated move to rile up his followers by getting the Republicans to over-react. Either way, it was a major blunder.

Initially I thought it was intentional, given that McCain/Palin were having all this positive coverage and he looked like he was laboring. It was an attempt to damp down the emotional high of Republicans by injecting some downright meanness in the campaign. That Republicans would over-react and it would change the mood. He could always plausibly deny any vicious intent. The second metaphor in which he referred to a stinking "old fish" and not just a "fish" further convinced.

But enough commentators on both sides have said they don't think it was intentional to give me pause.

I still say it was intentional and as Cillizza has noted, enough people are convinced it is intentional to making it a big problem for the Obama campaign, in that it shows them to be either not paying attention, or downright mean.

Posted by: theduke | September 10, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Scrapping the bottom? Why? There is so much good stuff on top
Voting present 100 plus times – cite John Edwards
Inexperienced – cite Biden and HRC
Can’t Win cite HRC
John Mccain would be good Pres. Cite Biden
No major legislation
Didn’t show up for committee he chaired
Most liberal politician
Flip Flopping
Failed Community Activist
Bill Ayers
Rev. Wright

Posted by: gigling | September 10, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

THE McCAIN CAMPAIGN MESSAGE OF CHANGE IS JUST
PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG

Back in May, McCain referred to Hillary Clinton’s health care plan as “putting lipstick on a pig.” It’s still a pig. No one thought anything of it. There were no cries of sexism. No one accused McCain of calling Hillary a pig.

Fast forward a few months and Barack Obama returns the favor. He refers to the McCain campaign’s talk of “change” as nothing but putting lipstick on a pig. It’s still a pig. Instantly the McCain camp jumps up and cries foul, accusing Obama of calling Sarah Palin a pig. Never mind that Obama had not even mentioned Palin’s name. Never mind that McCain himself had used that same folksy phrase. They then have the unmitigated gall to demand an apology from Obama. As if McCain owned the copyright to that phrase.

Methinks the Republican candidate doth protest too much.
The intensity of the McCain outcry, apart from its dishonesty, tells me that Obama has accidentally hit the mother lode. Instead of backing off from that porcine phrase, Obama would be well advised to use it in every campaign speech to characterize the quixotic talk of “change” emanating from the McCain camp. It is a phrase that immediately elicits scorn and derision. It is pithy and memorable. It describes exactly what a McCain presidency would be: four more years of Bush policies prettied up in lipstick. That’s not change. It is still a pig.

But here is the best reason for Obama to keep referring to pigs with lipstick. The insistence by the McCain camp on tying Obama’s innocent phrase to Sarah Palin has now made it impossible for us to NOT think of her when we hear of putting lipstick on a pig. The imagery is powerful. When we think of pigs we see greedy hogs feeding at a trough loaded with earmarks, such as, say dough for a bridge to nowhere. We think of the huge amounts of pork obtained by a small town mayor with connections to the Washington abattoir. No wonder the McCain-Palin camp is scared. Already there are T-shirts out with that wonderful image of a pig with lipstick.

The over-the-top response of McCain in this matter has provided Obama with a golden opportunity. He needs to keep hammering home the message that a McCain presidency would amount to putting lipstick on a pig. He should stick to that imagery for it is one that resonates. If he keeps drumming in that message, the only way the McCain-Palin ticket will win is when pigs fly.

And that’s no (pit)bull.

Posted by: RasKente | September 10, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Enough!!!

Posted by: Steve | September 10, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse


Lose your house, lose your vote
Michigan Republicans plan to foreclose African American voters

The chairman of the Republican Party in Macomb County Michigan, a key swing county in a key swing state, is planning to use a list of foreclosed homes to block people from voting in the upcoming election as part of the state GOP’s effort to challenge some voters on Election Day.

“We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people aren’t voting from those addresses,” party chairman James Carabelli told Michigan Messenger in a telephone interview earlier this week. He said the local party wanted to make sure that proper electoral procedures were followed.

http://www.michiganmessenger.com/4076/lose-your-house-lose-your-vote

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

RICK DAVIS, McCain's man is controlling the press. He told you the campaign wasn't going to be about issues. What has it been about Oprah and lip stick. And the press just plays along with their behinds up in the air. Can you believe with all the problems in this country that they spent a whole day and a half on lipstick. Rick controls everything about Palin including who she talks too. ABC network went to bed with him for ratings. What good is a bunch of cut up edited tapes spread out over who knows how long. Charlie Gibson already lost his creditability with the Obama interview, but now he has sold his soul to the devil. He's worst than fox news. Its all about control for Rick Davis the real press will never get a chance to interview Palin. Her first real press conference will not take place for months, win or lose because she's not ready for PRIMETIME. She is the biggest sham the republican party has going but more importantly, she's dangerous for the country.

Posted by: Control the Press | September 10, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Will we be fooled again? The first diversion gave us Bush. Keep these people talking about the issues.

Posted by: LYnne | September 10, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh PUH-LEEZE, MARCUS-YOU AND OBAMA NEED TO GET OVER YOUR SANCTIMONIOUS SELVES! DON'T GIVE ME THIS OBAMA FROM ON HIGH-ABOVE IT ALL BS! I GUESS YOU FORGET, RUTH, YOU AND THE DEMS. HOW OBAMA TWISTED THE WORDS OF HRC ON MLK DAY? MAKING THEM OUT TO BE RACIST, WHICH WAS NOTHING SHORT OF ABSURD? OBAMA IS GETTING EXACTLY, AND I MEAN, EXACTLY WHAT THAT DO-NOTHING, KNOW-NOTHING TWIT DESERVES! AND YES, I BELIEVE THIS TIME, WHEN HE USED THAT PHRASE, THAT HE DID IN FACT INTEND TO MAKE A SWIPE AT PALIN-SO DON'T GIVE ME THIS BS THAT OBAMA IS SOME PURE LITTLE ANGEL-THAT IS BIGGER BS THAN THE PHONY OUTRAGE OF MCCAIN'S CAMP, ANYDAY!

Posted by: OBAMAIS A PHONY FROM THE LETTER P! | September 10, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

yunno, i do think it was a reference to that time palin called herself a dog, the crowd in the video seemed to respond as if it was. it doesn't bother me that much, i read the rude pundit. it is strange that a man that lived through hideous torture is so easily offended.

the republicans should be removed from office by any means necessary, lipstick smears included.

Posted by: gall bladder | September 10, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

The elephant is getting old. Let's adopt a new symbol for the G.O.P.. Get rid of the Elephant, change it to a Pig with Lipstick!

Posted by: Freytag | September 10, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

I agree on the pig thing, McCain should not have jumped on this, although I don't think Obama chose those words accidentally.

McCain used politics to put Sen. Obama on the defense. The bump from the convention has the tide on his side. Obama's defense sounds plausable, especially since the press falls over backwards twisting everything against McCain. McCain should debate at the debates and not in the press. Keep it up and I'll vote for Obama!

As for the press remark, look at headlines and read the articles. Sarah Palin is the person we are vetting, so when we see "Palin family told to not disparage father" - It sounds like it is Sarah Palin's family. Second of all ... this was in the middle of a divorce and custody battle. First of all, this was her sister's divorce.

The truth should matter - so should context. We should all be insulted and question our candidate (and our oress) when they don't stick to the issues.

Posted by: Ron Morgan | September 10, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

This Compostie is a hypocrite just like every Democrat.

Democrats whine about every little thing from 'community organizer' to Willie Horton ads to what color socks a Republican wears that obviously shows he is a racist.

Finally the shoe is on other foot for once and they can't take one ounce of the heat. The Dems have blown stuff out of proportion for years...this is just a touch of payback. And payback's a pitbull, ain't it?

Keep cheering for Obama, media. Keep going.

Posted by: JB | September 10, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm an educated man with a Master's Degree.

I will seriously consider leaving this nation for Canada if McCain and Palin are elected.

Issues are dead. People will vote on emotion.

We have become the most ego-driven, emotional society on earth.


People will literally vote themselves out of a job.

Our local Panasonic Plant, as a result of NAFTA, just laid off 500 workers from our small town. 500! That's about 2000 people affected when you count the wives, husbands, and kids.

They're moving the plant to Mexico, all because of NAFTA, which JOHN MCCAIN SUPPORTS without reservation.


But, shoot. I'm talking about real issues. And few people vote on issues.

Instead they worry that Obama used the word lipstick and pig.


He didn't mean Palin.


It doesn't matter.


Hey Republicans: YOU GET TO SUFFER TOO when you elect McCain.

There doesn't exist a Republican Discount at the gas station or grocery store.

Boneheads!

Republicans need to grow up.

Posted by: Mike of Atlanta | September 10, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

The infamous "Lipstick" comment at the Repulican Convention has been replayed on TV and in newspaper and blogs print millions of time since then.

If you do not think Obama knew what he was doing by counter attacking with his remark then you are in the land of OZ. He knew no one can prove otherwise and he is right. He took a chance knowing the elite national media will bail him out.

However, perception is 9/10 of the law in presidential races unfortunately and Gov Palin just may have the last laugh. Obama is rattled and it shows. This is not like him to do this.

In closing, all the other times this phrase has been used (including McCain), the precedent had not been set on such a high bar with hourly national exposure. There in lies the difference...

Posted by: CD | September 10, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

LOL!!! McCain called his second wife, a a trollop and the c-word. McCain dumped his first wife, a female, for the younger pill-popping but wealthy Cindy McCain. If you're a white man with small hands and feet, it makes sense you would try and emasculate Obama. I suggest we get McCain's shoe size :)

Posted by: HerePiggyPiggy | September 10, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

It was obvious that Obama called Palin a pig (the audience behind him even knew it and screeched in pleasure over the blatant disrespect and misogyny their savior displayed) - and then Obama immediately called McCain an old fish. Listen to the entire soundbyte - both parts go together. Obama was trying to get some of the glory from Palin's lipstick on a pitbull comment. Obama mistakenly thought he could get away with it just like when he flipped Hillary off in front of a crowd of screeching cheering people. Obama has made sexism COOL - RACISM against whites ACCEPTABLE - and HATRED for our country POPULAR. He has set us all back DECADES as his brainwashed minions all carry on with blatant sexist smears. Obama is the worst candidate to ever run for office - a true disgrace to our country.

Posted by: WOMAN POWER | September 10, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight.
If McCain uses the 'lipstick on a pig" metaphore with regards to Hillary's plans, that is OK.
If Obma uses the same metaphore with regards to McCain's plans, that is a sexist insult to Palin. Gimme a break.
If Palin compares herself to a dog with lipstick, that is a "go girl" prideful thing.
What would have happened of Obama had said "put lipstick on a dog and it is still a dog?"
That really would have been a direct attack at Palin's own words, and one that she actually "asked for."

Posted by: campbell_ed | September 10, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Enough! No Seriously…

The McCain campaign has gone too far. Waking up this morning to hear the news that the McCain campaign is demanding that Obama apologize for using the “lipstick” phrase. The very phrase John McCain has used to describe Hillary Clinton at least twice before. With all the important issues to discuss and debate the McCain campaign has chosen to use Karl Rove style politics-taking the focus off the important issues and changing the storyline to superficial headlines that wont matter after Nov 5th. The American people (no matter who you are voting for) deserve better than this. After seven and a half years of the Bush administration we ARE NOT better off. The American economy is spiraling, what victory in Iraq looks like has yet to be defined, education is not equipped for the challenges of the 21st century and America’s oil dependence needs to be addressed (besides chanting drill baby drill).
We need a clear vision for the future-not sensational sound bytes to feed the inept media machine. The media has failed the American people!
It is now up to US-to DEMAND the McCain campaign focus on the issues and not simplistic distortions and detraction. I use to think that by just voting I was completing my civil duty. But now I realize that I must take the next step-US- the American people have to demand better from the McCain campaign. The media is so interested in ratings it is willing to sacrifice our country.
Now I am just one person. I have never done anything like this before. My suggestion is to organize to show up at McCain rallies/headquarters around the country-wherever he travels- and simply ask for the truth. Peacefully ask him to stop the lies and distortion and focus on the issues. I don’t know what else to do…we need to organize and stop the smears. So if you are fed up too-if you have a better idea.
I have created an email just for this purpose. It is up to US-from the bottom up to organize and demand better. This is the president were talking about…not American idol. It was the Republicans who put us in this mess now- John McCain who agrees with the overwhelming majority of Bush policy-now wants to disown the party?
As a teacher part of my job is to teach accountably. Its time for John McCain to be held accountable for his actions!

If you feel the same or have better ideas email me

bizarroworld08@gmail.com

Posted by: bizarroworld08 | September 10, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

If Sarah tried to put lipstick on a pit-bull - or a Mexican fighting cock – both of which are appalling and disgusting cases of animal abuse, seemingly a double joy for all those raisin men out there and their wives or girlfriends who really like it rough and bloody, who have nothing better to do with their time, SHE WOULDN’T WALK AWAY FROM EITHER LOOKING LIKE YOU SEE HER TODAY – AFTERALL – AT THE VERY LEAST SHE WOULD NOT END UP LOOKING like the type of Arm-Candy Sen. McCain seems to NEED, AND ENJOY – AND WHY HE LEFT HIS FIRST WIFE? So look out Cindy!

SO FOLKS, MY HERO OF THE DAY IS SEN JOHN McCAIN – A TRULY RELIGIOUS, RIGHTEOUS MAN WHO SIMPLY LEFT HIS FIRST WIFE – because after a bad car accident WAS LEFT TERRIBLY SCARRED. I’LL BET HE REALLY ENJOYS COCK-FIGHTING. HE CERTIANLY HAS THE “MILD-MANNERED” TEMPERMENT FOR IT. OH YES, MY FRIENDS, THIS IS DEFINITELY THE QUALITY AND CALLIBER OF THE TYPE OF MAN WE WANT AS OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF. (A HERO FROM THE VIETNAM WAR - YET ANOTHER tiny Republican FAUX PAS THAT COST THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN LIVES – AND ALL FOR WHAT? AT LEAST THIS TIME THEY USED THE EXCUSE OF OIL AND GREED).

SO LADIES, OF THE NOW “THIRD WORLD USA”, WHO WANTS THIS HERO – THIS MAN OF GOD & RIGHTIOUS PIT-BULL FIGHTING BLOODY GORE (God is always on our side, right?) TO BE THE ONE TO ANSWER THE PHONE AT 3AM? – PLEASE, RAISE YOUR HANDS. A MAN IS NOT A HERO JUST BECAUSE HE CRASHES A PLANE AND THEN WALKS OUT TO GET PICKED-UP BY THE FRIENDLIES. (THE INJURY WHICH HE WEARS AS A PROUD BADGE OF COURAGE – WERE SUFFERED DURING HIS PLANE CRASH IN VIETNAM, NOT BECAUSE OF ANY BRUTAL BEHAVIOR FROM BEING CAPTURED BY THE ENEMY)

HEY, YOU OLD GEEZER - WAR HERO? WHO’S KIDDING WHO? WHILE STANDING IN A U.S. POST OFFICE IN ARIZONA WAITING TO GET SERVICE, TWO OF YOUR OLD CRONIES FROM YOUR OWN OUTFIT DURING THAT WAR YOU WERE IN DIDN’T QUITE SEEM TO SEE YOU AS A HERO EITHER. NOT ONLY THAT, THEY SPOKE RATHER POORLY OF YOU IN TERMS OF ATTITUDE AND TERMPERMENT.

As for Sarah, I can only hope that when she is allowed to make remarks and state her own opinions and quit repeating the "stump" speech she has been given - Hmmmmmmmmmm? WILL SHE ALL-OF-A-SUDDEN START “SPEAKING IN TONGUES” AS SHE TAKES THE PODIUM - WHICH OF COURSE SHE HAS DONE BEFORE? AND HUMBLY BELIEVES IN - IS THIS WHY SHE IS STILL STUMPING?

Oh yes, all ye faithful of the only one and true religion (sound familiar?) WE NOW HAVE: FROM GOD’S THOUGHT THROUGH SARAH’S MOUTH! This, may, of course, come in handy when speaking on a global level – BUT ooops! – I forgot! THIS LANGUAGE CAN ONLY BE UNDERSTOOD BY THOSE WHO RECEIVE IT – THEN, OF COURSE, ANOTHER IN THE CONGREGATION HUMBLY STANDS AND INTERPERETES THE “WORDS IN TONGUES” JUST SPOKEN, TO THOSE WHO ONLY SPEAK ENGLISH. WOW! YOU JUST CAN’T GET MORE RIGHTIOUS THAN THAT. WHO CARES IF TEACHING ABSTINANCE AT HOME OBVIOUSLY DOESN’T WORK!

I can only beg & plead that you all take your time to evaluate the ISSUES THAT CONFRONT OUR COUNTRY and ALL of HER PEOPLE – PLEASE THINK FOR YOURSELVES! PLEASE TRY NOT TO BE SWAYED BY THIS RELIGIOUS VOO-DOO – this HOKUS-POKUS – or their religious ploy to bring in the far right – PERHAPS THIS IS WHY SARAH HAS NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING EXCEPT HER STUMP SPEECH.

“Dear God, PLEASE - Don't let either of these two people, THE MAN AND THE WOMAN touting their OWN RELIGIOUS RIGHTEOUSNESS, get anywhere near that "Little Red" phone WHEN IT RINGS AT 3AM!” IT WILL BE AT THAT MOMENT THAT THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT – WILL COME TO AN END. AMEN.

THANK YOU.

Posted by: Think for Yourself | September 10, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Not since the issue with Trent Lott, saying a few kind words about an old colleague (for the 4th or 5th time)was blown out of proportion, has the speaker of the words or their explanation as to the intended meaning made any difference. It is the hearer that determines if there has been a slight or insult. For those who thought that was fair treatment for Lott don't cry now for Obama.

Posted by: danoh5o | September 10, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm an educated womman with a very high I.Q.

I will seriously consider leaving this nation for Canada if Obama the COMMUNIST RACIST MISOGYNIST is elected.

This country hates George Bush so much that it is willing to elect a blatant communist to destroy everything our country stands for.

GOD HELP US ALL TO DEFEAT THE ANTI-MESSIAH AND HIS BRAINWASHED MINIONS.

Posted by: WOMAN POWER | September 10, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Of course Obama knew what he was doing, just as he did when he gave hillary the finger during a speech. He thinks he's being subtle, but he really isn't. Obama is smart enough that if he wasn't intending on it, he would not have said that at all. If the media and the Obama campaign continue down this road, they will be the losers come November.
Jim Lagnese
http://www.the-right-guy.com

Posted by: Jim lagnese | September 10, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama was talking about McCain's policies when he made the comment it was no way directed at Sarah Palin. What the McCain campaign did was use it even though they knew it was'nt against her as a distraction. The McCain does not want to talk about issues so they will try to find distractions to get away from the issues. When this lipstick deal dies down they will find something else to rave about so the media will focus on. This is the stradegy they are using they know if the focus is on the issues Obama will win.

Posted by: Michael | September 10, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Lol typo -
I'm an educated woman with a very high I.Q.

I will seriously consider leaving this nation for Canada if Obama the COMMUNIST RACIST MISOGYNIST is elected.

This country hates George Bush so much that it is willing to elect a blatant communist to destroy everything our country stands for.

GOD HELP US ALL TO DEFEAT THE ANTI-MESSIAH AND HIS BRAINWASHED MINIONS.

Posted by: WOMAN POWER | September 10, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone else noticed that when there is a truly deranged or obscenely vulgar post, it's usually written by someone who supports Obama?

Posted by: theduke | September 10, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

That Harvard fellow sure is stupid.

Posted by: JB | September 10, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

What Newspapers Are Good For:

You become used to the ink, it sort of becomes like
seasoning when you receive your newspaper-wrapped
fish-n-chips, served London/ Dublin-style.

As for the lipstick, let pigs out of it: try sharks.

Posted by: 3rd-Party Advocate | September 10, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Hi from Oz...not Kansas...the more I think about this and the Rights claim he said it delibretekly BLAH BLAh - the more I hope so - if you guys want to change - and from what I can see from outside you need a major change or the US is the titanic of this century the more I think you need to come out and fight these Neo Con Rove Oil clones....get some balls - get the gloves off and hit the rednecks hard... if you loose at least you can look at yourself in the mirror and not see a pig and have some respect for yourself - 'Idiocracy" in action..

Posted by: col in paradise | September 10, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

Again, its simply a case of the Racists and White Supremacists(and Black man hating lisbians) following the lead of Karl Rove in not focusing on issues(they know they'll lose) and on nonsense.

Don't play this game Barack, stick to the issues, use your intelligence and beat them by continuing to make a better argument.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother | September 11, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Nevertheless, she IS the queen of pork. She did accept the money for the bridge to nowhere, after initially supporting it. She was a champion porker in Wassila, but still left the town in big debt.

However, in all fairness, the list of books she wanted banned is apparently an internet rumor, and was not taken from the notes of the Library Board:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/p/palin-banned-books.htm

Posted by: scientist1 | September 11, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

I think that JaxMax, annonymous, and woman power are all the same person, and he's just laughing his socks off at the rise he gets out of the crazed, batsh**t comments he is making here.

Posted by: Clay | September 11, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Oh Woman Power...so Obama is a communist - didnt you notice your beloved Republicans did the greatest nationalisation since Stalin or Hiitler...looking at the shape of your economy and the mess its in from 8 years of mismanagement - over regualtioon (call it a free market ahahahahaha) the Chinese economy is maybe the model you should look at..anyway now its the "Commie muslim under the bed" - you and your ilk are from the MccARTHY ERA....if the republicans are not communists they definetly are becoming facists.....and in regards to The DUke...get your blinkers off look at the rubbish coming From "Nobama" and "Texmex" - we have a word for the people your party is targeting to try and stay in power down here - BOGANS - in fact the more I watch you lot the more actually I woulod like to see the US have 4 more years of sheer incompetance and stupidity....as you get what you deserve - and it is not going to be a nice future for you lot - world super power to world joke in a decade - congradulations

Posted by: col in paradise | September 11, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

jaxmax, you are a moron. MCCain used that same cliche some time ago... I suppose he was indoctrinated with muslim brainwashing where????

Quit being a putz!

Posted by: mikana | September 11, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

This is pathetic - talk about playing the gender card! And since when has the commonly used 'lipstick on a pig' comment been specifically directed at women. It is used to point out hypocrisy which the McCain campaign is choking with. Oh did I say 'choking'? That isn't a violence against women innuendo is it? I guess I better check with the McCain camp.

Posted by: woody | September 11, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

woody,

Commonly used or not, the "lipstick on a pig" comment used in such close proximity of the Palin speech with the self- depreciating humor of comparing herself as a hockey mom to a pit bull with the difference being her lipstick was too obviously a double entendre. It was not lost on the audiance, which was plain to see. The fish comment was too close an association to the Palin family fishing business or even worse to the old base comparisons of fish smells and women. Added to Obama's slip up in calling a female reporter "sweetie" and Hillary's and her supporters' compliants about their perceived sexist treatment by Obama's campaign and some people will believe he is a mysognist. Some expressions, no matter how innocently intended are going to have to be given up now that there is a woman in the presidential race. If he doesn't he will probably lose the election. The glass ceiling cracked in so many places by Clinton and being pressured by Palin is beginning to have shards fall and Obama is getting cut as pieces fly by.

Posted by: danoh5o | September 11, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Interesting. White women are having hissey fits and black women can't be bother...and we have had worse said about us and done to us by both black and white men. If THis poor excuse of a heartbeat away President of the US is effected by this, then God help us when the other world leaders get hold of her!

Rather than have a black man, some white woman would rather have someone who isn't a lawyer, wanted to ban books in america..."To Kill a Mockng bird"...ring a bell?...and a woma who Rush Limbaugh thinks is a "Babe"?

It's really all about Roe v Wade...and a woman's right to choose. Republicans have always strongly believed that they alone are the group who have a heaven or hell to send folks to...those who don't obey and live by thier rules.

The middle class has not yet seen hell on earth as it will be if the Republicans take the White House.

Two wars, and a gallon of gas and milk cost the same!!!!!

Oh! And there are many patriots in america.

Google the Tuskeekee Airmen. Or see the film that George Lucus is doing on them.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

How dumb can the Dems be? Obama's been on the defensive since he left a successful convention and he's seen his lead go from +3 to down 5. The Republicans were dead to rights and the Dems can't close the show. This is campaign mismanagement at its finest and I wouldn't look to a debate to change it. While Obama rules the stage with a prepared speech (be it the greatest speech I've ever heard), he's terrible in debate and unprepared remarks. We finally gave America a tagline that they could get behind (Change) and we forgot to give'em the details about how we were going to do it. Add that to the ad campaign that we can't seem to master and this may be a long fall for Obama.

How can you screw this up? Oh yeah, we picked the guy with no experience, that's how.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

McBush/Palin: the real bridge to nowhere!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

About that fish wrapped in newspaper comment -

One of the republican truth squad women was on Hardball pushing the outrage about the lipstick on a pig being intended for Palin. She took it another step.

She said she actually thought Obama was referring to McCain's age with is old fish remark.

Now you want to talk ludicrous!

My god, the country is in trouble.

Remember the headline from the London paper after the last election about How Could 84_____ million people be so dumb?

I hope they don't have to repeat it and includfe "Oops, they did it again."

Posted by: Sandy | September 11, 2008 2:17 AM | Report abuse

I'm hoping that the electorate is able to discern truth from the Palin Express that exploded into the campaign with the help of an adulating Fox, right-wing radio hosts, Glenn Beck, Charlie Gibson, and all of NBC. Deference is for Kings and queens, not politicians who are asking for work, as Palin is.
The lies, false accusations and horrid ads painting Obama as a sex pervert can't work to ruin America again. I have faith that voters will calmly look at the housing market, the high unemployment, the ruined lives from Iraq War and the traitorous dumping of Constitutional rights and pull the lever that flushes Palin, McCain and other Republican destroyers down the drain.
This nation is obviously at a dangerous crossroads, and once again, the ruinous Republicans are gaining some ground with their nasty, nasty behavior.
But in the end, all those folks who lost relatives on 9-11; families who've lost sons and parents in Iraq; families who see their returning vets ignored by medical establishments; the downturn America has taken in the world, and the embarrassment that it has become to be American, and they'll do the right thing. In spite of all the loudness from Fox and Palin and James Dobson, the GOP is over and isn't coming back for many, many years.
Too many bad memories from this group of loser, traitorous Republican liars and haters of good Americans.
It's time to dump this whole Fox/Disney mess down the drain. It's all lies and destruction coming from the GOP again.
All my best, John Guerra

Posted by: John Guera | September 11, 2008 3:16 AM | Report abuse

Is one to think after all this time of campaigning that Barak Snarky Obama does not know the impact of his words that he intends or expects from his audience. It is just very interesting to observe his steely, stony face when his audience is reacting as he expected and intended.

Posted by: marilyn | September 11, 2008 3:28 AM | Report abuse

All this complaining about lipstick and piggly wiggly stuff makes Palin look weak real weak. If I were Palin I would take her own advice and quit whining. I bet Putin is laughing right now thinking maybe if he should double slam her with a lipstick pig comment and then something about nuclear warheads.

International Politics is serious stuff leave the lipstick at home.

Posted by: Mortified | September 11, 2008 3:33 AM | Report abuse

I read this article three times, unable to believe that no mention was made of the THREE TIMES John McCain has used the lipstick-on-a-pig figure of speech on the campaign trail. The three film clips have been played on CNN all day today. McCain was talking about Clinton's health care plan. Nobody suggested he was talking about Hillary Clinton. So, now it's a new game. Obama better be careful never to say "skirting an issue" or "beating one's breast" or surely we will see Sarah Appalling's defenders going into a mass faint like Victorian maidens.

Posted by: Lilly | September 11, 2008 4:03 AM | Report abuse

I think he's got to be infatuated with her. He's acting more like a man newly in love, trying to shield his delicate little flower from the big bad people. Please...and can you imagine how he'd fawn all over her in an executive session, stumbling over his words, not being able to think straight cause he just can't get her off his mind? Oh, and when that 3 am call comes, the only thing he'll be able to think of is if she's safe? At the end of this imaginary term, she'll be pushing him in a wheelchair out of the impeachment courts, still defending his maverick status. It's almost comical enough to go ahead and elect them to the White House so that we can at least get some of our chuckle back before having to knuckle down and fix the Constitution. NOT!!!! Ya gotta love America!

Posted by: Teri Foss | September 11, 2008 4:10 AM | Report abuse

To TerryCarrol: I will have to use asterisks as when I tried to post this before the filter threw me out. To continue the animal imagery of your message: I had a button made that reads WHAT DO YOU CALL A FEMALE PIT BULL? A B*****. No asterisks on my button, though.

Posted by: Lilly | September 11, 2008 4:38 AM | Report abuse

I have a hard time believing that this is the same John McCain I supported with money and time in year 2000.

Posted by: Adam Habib | September 11, 2008 5:29 AM | Report abuse

However, we should never blame GOP. We should blame ourselves. After 8 years of horrific time, almost half of us are supporting the policy? Call me liberal or whatever, but starting from dolar slide, to budget deficit, to gas price increase, to grocery increase, to job market shrinking, with all these, voting for same policy? May be we do not deserve any policy, we just love to have GOP PATRIOTS in power.

Posted by: Adam Habib Plano, TX | September 11, 2008 5:33 AM | Report abuse

'As a person who works in newspapers, I am deeply offended by Barack Obama’s suggestion that the product I help put out is fit only for wrapping fish.'

Don't limit the use of your product, it is also great for lining birdcages.

Posted by: john garvey | September 11, 2008 5:34 AM | Report abuse

Disclosure: I am a white, 75 yo, refined "lady" with a Ph.D. who knows how to use language and read critically. BUT: As my old dad used to say, JC all effin Mighty, will the crap never stop? So shoot me and put me out of my misery, but, tho Obama NEVER said it, SP is a pig in lipstick. McCain is senile. I haven't been proud of our country for 8 years, as Michelle said ages ago. BHO needs to take off the gloves, set aside his good manners and fight the nasty battle that fly-boy plane crasher McCain and his Rovian warriors have forced upon the Dems. He could flush the toilet on this $#!+ in a few well-chosen words then immediately get down to the ISSUES that must be dealt with immediately for the very survival of the USA.
Ruth, most of your readers don't recognize irony or sarcasm, so you may have to suspend your good nature and humor for a while. Pity.
Signing off now to go write a check to the Obama/Biden campaign.

Posted by: moran | September 11, 2008 6:31 AM | Report abuse

This campaign is now all about trivia and insults. Neither war hero McCain nor boy wonder Obama really want to discuss real issues. That's too important - and risky.

Posted by: rmpatera | September 11, 2008 6:39 AM | Report abuse

I can't imagine a better example of the ethical bankruptcy of the GOP and the banality of the media than this phony story. I just watched Meredith Viera make a complete boob of herself discussing this as if it were real.

Posted by: Dave Scott | September 11, 2008 7:16 AM | Report abuse

If McCain wins,the very first time Palin tries to be part of any conversation reguarding the government of this country, she will promptly be told to shut up and sit down. I cant believe people are pretending the GOP isnt using Palin for the sole purpose of getting womens votes. McCain and his puppet masters really have no respect for Palins experience in Paciffic Mayberry.
It will be too late to cry in your soup if You Clinton Women hand McCain the presidency because Clinton didnt win. Moose burgers? Really? Moose burgers?

Posted by: bravo31whiskey | September 11, 2008 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Don't you people get it? You thought the Decider was a nice guy too, and look what it got you. THINK, THINK, THINK! If Sarah Palin was so smart, why can't she talk to the media by herself? Also, if she doesn't even know what Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae is, how can she help you people who are caught up in this mortgage crisis?? Get real, just because she eats Moose burgers?? Hope you all like Moose burgers because that all you'll be able to put on the dinner plate with Sarah and John McSame, Bush's clone.

Posted by: LilSugar | September 11, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

When discussing McCain's health status, it is misleading to say that he has had four bouts with skin cancer. While that's technically true, it underplays the seriousness of his illness(es). Melanoma is among the deadliest of all cancers. It spreads to the lungs, liver and brain and is resistant to chemo and radiation.

Posted by: Deeplip | September 11, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

John McCain doesn't have a clue about 'family values'. Why else would he have dumped his long suffering first wife (and young children) for a horing rodeo queen? Everything that comes out of his mouth stinks. I'm sorry they let him out of the Hanoi Hilton.

"If Obama wants to WIN, then he needs to come down from the ivory tower and start FIGHTING. He needs to get ANGRY. He needs to express an sense of outrage. He needs to say over and over that the Republicans are dirty rotten scoundrels and liars who are taking away our civil rights and that America will be a second class country if we elect another Republican President. Palin has energized the conservative base. If Obama cannot energize the Bish-haters, he has no shot.

Posted by: taxguru | September 10, 2008 2:17 PM "

RIGHT!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

It's perfectly obvious that Obama was not reffering to Palin.
If he had been, he would have said
"Wannabe Nazi filth".

Posted by: Kinky Afro | September 11, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

What a bunch of silliness. Feels like the McCain "Race Card" hokum of a few months back.

What are you going to do to help create more jobs in America? What are you going to do to keep us safe? What should we do about rising college costs? Why can't we fund catastrophic health care?

Let's get on with the debates.

Posted by: GoneFromTexas | September 11, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Jane SWIFT? Her name is highly suggestive. Swift (boats) against Obama...

Posted by: MikeCT | September 11, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Amen to Marcus Taylor post:
Now that is a real scary thought about national security - an inexperienced, untested, and unknowledgeable person sitting in the white house. I agree on the POW comment - republicans question what happened to Obama as he listened to a wacko pastor - shouldn't we have the same question about someone who spends 5 years in seclusion, being "tortured"? He very well could be the real manchurian candidate!

"When Pigs fly….. Lets be real people, John McCain’s father died when he was 61 years old. John McCain has had four skirmishes with skin cancer. At age 72 odds are he will die in the White House, if he doesn’t come down with Alzheimer’s first. DO YOU REALLY WANT AN UNKNOWN, UNTESTED, “HOCKEY MOM” SITTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE AS COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF?

Here’s an even worse thought….YOU DON’T SPEND FIVE YEARS AT THE HANOI HILTON AND COME OUT COMPLETELY SANE. John McCain, the real MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE!"

Posted by: Jim | September 11, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Obama's remarks and his use of this common turn of phrase were calculated to bait the McCain campaign. He played the line for laughs, and it comes on the heels of Russ Carnahan's use of the word "lipstick" explicitly referencing Palin in his introduction of Joe Biden. The Obama camp knows what it's doing, and any claim that they didn't really mean to jibe Palin is obviously false...par for the course on both sides, but false.

Posted by: Mike S | September 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

To karoline1,jaxmax,dave(the republican one) etc
Reading the semi-literate comments of the above I realize just how much their corrupt and self-righteous party relies on the votes of the under informed and bigoted members of our citizenry. Rather than researching for themselves the different viewpoints involved in the complex issues facing our country they believe whatever the gop, fox news and rush limbaugh (aka: Big Fat Moron") espouse.
The "straight talk express" has taken a major detour, even to the point where wanting to know more about his VP (and therfore possible presidential) choice is, they tell us, sexist.

Lower case letters intentional.

Posted by: Geoff in Frederick | September 11, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

tis story is a true one.check the facts.
John McCain and George Bush had a medical examination(test) by a doctor in the U.S.he found out that they both have (HBP)their blood pressures are above normal.excessive Adrenaline in their cell.this is what took the US to war in Iraq and this is what made McCain pick Sarah as his running mate.McCain never learned from Bush's hasty decisions but i don't want to believe that the American people won't learn from McCains hasty one.Palin is like a new born baby(everybody comes with gifts) but in less than 49 days when she must have started walking on her own,feeding,attending occassions people will know who she really is.madam family values!her home is very HOT meanwhile she preaches the importance of COOLING a home.hahaha.Palin we know you are going to bring change but start it in your home.

Posted by: wassabobbe-italy | September 11, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Former Mass. Gov. Swift might want to go go easy on the Palin's the only one who wears makeup comment. McCain looks like he went to Tammy Faye Baker's estate sale. Maybe that's why Palin looks so uncomfortable when she has to hug him. Either that or she doesn't like the smell of Old Spice.

Posted by: blancmange | September 11, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

So the difference between a Hocky Mom and a pitbull, according to Sara Palin, is lipstick. Isn't a pitbull wearing ipstick a -- oh, what's the word? -- a female dog?

Also, Sara and "First Dude's" association with that Alaskan secessionist group in Alaska -- that's not "Country First." That's treason.

Also, she never told Congress "Thanks but no thanks to that bridge to nowhere." Congress killed that, but Gov. Palin kept all the money for a highway to nowhere.

Posted by: jjchamber@kaballero.com | September 11, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf

This link will take you to Sen. Barack Obama's Blueprint for Change wherein he sets forth in detail the real changes he will make, if elected President of the United States, and how these changes will be implemented. I believe all those who support Senator Obama can help get him elected by printing out as many copies of the booklet as you can and distributing them to friends and neighbors. Remember, we have less than 2 months to bring Senator Obama's message of real change to the American People. Obama/Biden 2008!!!

Posted by: caliguy55 | September 11, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Let's see. The Democratic Party, either abetted or not opposed by his pundits, sees 'coded' racism in almost everything the Republicans say. We are supposed to be outraged by observations that Obama is skinny (that's racist), has been something called a 'community organizer' (ditto), and that his middle name is Hussein.

Democratic and media outrage knew few bounds when a Republican ad against Harold Ford a couple of years ago for attending a 'Playboy' Super Bowl party - the ad featured a skimpily-dressed white woman flirting with the candidate. But only a year later, pro-Obama forces put the white, scantily-clad 'Obama Girl' all over the Internet, and the poor, dumb mainstream press forgot all about the danger in inflaming those primal racist instincts just below the surface of the unevolved white male masses, and treated the whole thing as good fun. I guess it just depends.

Ruth Marcus has seen cheaper outrage before. Her political blinders keep it from registering, though. What is it about politics that turns otherwise intellegent and humane people into quite the opposite? Maybe this is the best conservative argument for de-politicizing life.

Posted by: Mark Richard | September 11, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

CORRECTED (see corrections below)
McCain Camp Offended by Obama Pig Remarks
Presidential candidate neither porcine nor cross-dressing, aides say

By M K Trout
1 hour, 54 minutes ago

RICHMOND, Virginia (Reuters) - Staff for Republican presidential candidate John McCain said yesterday in a statement that Democratic Rival was attempting to shift focus off issues with "scurrilous lies and playground insults."
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The flap arises in the wake of Mr. Obama's use of a colloquialism about putting lipstick on a pig to describe the policies of the McCain campaign.

The McCain camp originally indicated that Mr. Obama was making sexist remarks regarding the Republican running mate, Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska. The latest volley indicates that they have changed tactics on the metaphor.

In a statement, campaign manager Steve Schmidt stated, "We are willing to take Sen. Obama at his word that he was not speaking about Gov. Palin in his comments on Tuesday. At the same time, though, we do not feel it makes the comments any less offensive that he was calling Sen. McCain both a pig and a transvestite in a single sentence. Sen. Obama must stop his campaign of scurrilous lies and playground insults and focus on what's important to our nation -- lies about earmarks and more giveaways to big corporations."

Former McCain rivals were no less vocal in their condemnation of the junior Senator from Illinois.

"As someone who is often compared to [cartoon loser] Droopy Dog and [children's cereal magnate] Frankenberry, I understand how these shallow insults can sting," former Tennessee Senator and actor Fred Thompson, who had previously challenged Sen. McCain for the Republican nomination, said in a hastily assembled conference call with reporters. "The man lived in a box in Vietnam for five years, but that doesn't make him a pig. This is a new low for the Democrat party."

Looking at the other side of the metaphor, former New York mayor Rudolf Giuliani released a statement saying "As we remember the victims of 9/11 and how that day changed our country forever, it is unconscionable that a community organizer would accuse Sen. McCain -- an American hero -- of wearing lipstick... not even if the lipstick tube were shaped like the World Trade Center twin towers which we all -- as Americans, not Democrats or Republicans -- watched fall on that fateful 9/11 day."

In an odd twist, Giuliani's statement went on to say that McCain would never do anything that resembles cross-dressing "because he knows he couldn't look half as good as I do in drag. 9/11."

The Obama campaign's response to the latest kerfuffle was an uncharacteristically terse written statement of their own. The full text of the statement read, "We're speechless. This is astounding. If the voting public is so stupid as to buy this, we're all [expletive]ed anyway."

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CORRECTION: A previously issued edition of this article incorrectly identified Frankenberry as a children's cereal mascot. Mr. Berry's press secretary indicates that, while he appears on the box it is as owner of Frankenberry, Inc., thus he is more properly identified as a children's cereal magnate. We regret the error.

(Editing by Eric T. Red)

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Posted by: Kurt Vonnegut | September 11, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

There's plenty of evidence of the efficacy of the Big Lie on the weak-minded in a post on this forum by JaxMax: "Obama's lipstick on a pig comment--documented on his teleprompter-- is much more than just a sexist slur. It is a deeeply rooted Muslim slur."

Can someone explain to these folks the simple fact that DENIAL of Islam by a Mulsim is a CRIME under Islamic law; the first of the "five pillars" of Islam is the declaration of faith. Ergo, if someone (who is not under threat of being killed for his faith) DENIES being a Muslim, that is proof beyond REASONABLE doubt that he or she is Muslim.

Is this too complicated? Or are people simply lying about what THEY believe?

Posted by: Iconoblaster | September 11, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

A former advisor to Senator John McCain, Torie Clarke, actually wrote a book a couple of years ago called...you guessed it, Lipstick on a Pig: Winning In the No-Spin Era by Someone Who Knows the Game.

Posted by: Shannon Roberts | September 11, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

It is interesting that while Obama was miles away from Palin, in his speech, it was the McCain campaign that thought of Palin, when they heard the word Pig.

Posted by: Mugwamp | September 11, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

At this point Obama should adopt from the shelter a pit-bull and campain with her claiming that she's "too beautiful for lipstick." Just maybe seeing what a real b*tch look like will stop all nonsense.

Posted by: watchman | September 11, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I think O suckered the McCains in with the lipstick line, knowing they would overplay their hand.
I think his reponse was perfect and, most likely, planned well in advance.

He is playing chess, not checkers. Bravo. Keep it up.

Posted by: ducbil | September 11, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

John McCain wrote:

Hello, I'm John McCain, a former POW. There was a time when I didn't have lipstick and I didn't have a pig. And even if I had, the Vietnamese guard would not have let me put the lipstick on the pig. Now, I don't care if you vote for me or not, but I do care about the right to put lipstick on a pig.

I tried to put lipstick on Gov. Palin, but she said, "Thanks, but no thanks. If I want lipstick, I'll go out and shoot a Polar Bear and make lipstick from its blood."

I tried to put lipstick on Cindi, but she said, "I've already got three coats of primer and face paint. Any more, and I'll look like Heath Ledger in that Batman movie."

Please vote for me. I've lost all my integrity, but if you vote for me, I'll give you a house. Did I tell you that I was a POW?

I'm John McCain, a former POW, and I approved this message.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

John McCain wrote:

Hello, I'm John McCain, a former POW. There was a time when I didn't have lipstick and I didn't have a pig. And even if I had, the Vietnamese guard would not have let me put the lipstick on the pig. Now, I don't care if you vote for me or not, but I do care about the right to put lipstick on a pig.

I tried to put lipstick on Gov. Palin, but she said, "Thanks, but no thanks. If I want lipstick, I'll go out and shoot a Polar Bear and make lipstick from its blood."

I tried to put lipstick on Cindi, but she said, "I've already got three coats of primer and face paint. Any more, and I'll look like Heath Ledger in that Batman movie."

Please vote for me. I've lost all my integrity, but if you vote for me, I'll give you a house. Did I tell you that I was a POW?

I'm John McCain, a former POW, and I approved this message.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama needs to take John McCain behind the tool shed....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

To everybody who uses the word "liberal" like it's a dirty word, a definition. Seems these are the characteristics that make America and its people great. Liberals should be emulated - not put down with a spit and a sneer.

"lib·er·al (lbr-l, lbrl)
adj.
1.
a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
c. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
d. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States."

Signed: a LIBERAL and proud of it!!!!

Posted by: MEW | September 11, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me, one apologizes whenever someone's feelings are hurt, whether you meant to or not. And, in this context, there has been a lot of sexism that has irritated lots of women. There have always been enablers like Marcus.

Posted by: Claire Solt PhD | September 11, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Hasn't anyone else noticed that it's the Republicans who heard the phrase 'lipstick on a pig' and immediately thought of Sarah Palin?

Just pointing that out.

Oh, in all fairness, the banned books list is bogus. Palin asked the librarian about banning books. The librarian told her off.

Posted by: Joe Garside | September 11, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

This is so ridiculous that it should end the McCain?Palin candidacy right now. McCain hinself has used the term "lipstick on a pig" frequently and recently. Obama has also used it a couple of times as have countless other politicians, in fact it's a term in common use. Just because Palin used the word "lipstick" in a very unfunny attempt at humor does not give her exclusive rights to the use of the word. This is classic distract and attack. Once I thought McCain was an honorable man. I no longer believe he is.

Posted by: Bunny | September 11, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

"I will seriously consider leaving this nation for Canada if Obama the COMMUNIST RACIST MISOGYNIST is elected."

Hey Woman Power-- Don't let the border hit you on the ass on the way out!!

Posted by: Sheppy | September 11, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Marcus:

If the shoe fits then Palin should wear it!! She started the mud-slinging and I sure hope that Obama/Biden finish it!!McCain is a hypocrite he has used this phrase numerous times referring to Hillary Clinton. It seems to be a one way street for this POW(Poor Old White man)his way or the highway! He even admitted last night that he was bitter at Obama for not conducting this election like a town hall meeting is he high?? or just old and loosing it. With that said he is just doing the same old Republican way of DICTATORSHIP my way or the highway. We just had 8 long horrible years with that mentallity from Bush!

ENOUGH!!

If Palin can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen!! I think that the Republicans are blowing Obama's comment way out of proportion. The Republican's have made countless racial slurs about Obama and we don't hear anyone complaining about that! As a white female and I am offended by their comments.

OBAMA/BIDEN they will be our next President and Vice President. As for the other two Kermit the frog and Miss Piggy they shouldn't even be in Washington much less the white house!!!!!!!!

P.S. Isn't she the one that is proud of looking like a pitbull??She's nuts!!

Posted by: Bonnie03 | September 13, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Hey Sheppy: GOOD-BYE!! Obama will be elected and America will be minus one less A*****e like you in our country!! Good luck in Canada. If there is anyone else out there like you take them with you!! We don't need stinky thinking people in our country!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Bonnie03 | September 13, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Only in America where slander is allowed
and it is done on both the republic and
democratic side, but that's politics for
ya. Imagine if the soldiers were as politi-
cians, America would never be protected
and vunerable to all kinds of attacks by
other countries, so let's get it togeather
america and vote for the better of the two
and quit bickering about what someone said
to someone else, So glad I am not in this
mess as I left the U.S. ten years ago be-
cause of all the mess the politicians have
gotten us into and imagine I spend 22yrs of
my life in the military defending the U.S.
and they turned out like this, God bless
America as it needs it because it is in
deep trouble with other countries.

Posted by: mack7 | September 13, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

The bridge was going to her barn or one of the many meth labs in her county.
If it Oinks and smells...it's probably a pig.

Posted by: McLame | September 14, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

LEAVE IT TO THE MASTERS OF SMEAR TO COME UP WITH THIS KIND OF OF DIRT- THE DEMOCRATS CAN'T FIND ANYTHING TO THROW AT MRS. PALIN, SO THEY MAKE SOMETHING UP. LIES AND DIRT ARE THEIR FAVORITE WEAPONS. THEY HAVE SUNK TO A NEW LOW WITH THE LIPSTICK JAB.

Posted by: B.J. HOLT | September 15, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Dems lie??? Everything that the Elephants have been saying are lies and dirt! Palin is under investigation of which she will not cooperate which proves that she is lying and a liar. The worst thing about her is she lies and keeps repeating the same lies. John McCain says that he knows the economy and today announced that there is nothing wrong with our economy when the DOW dropped 500 points. I don't know where he is living, maybe his mind is back in Vietnam. Our economy is the worst it's ever been thanks to you, the republicans. The mere fact that Sarah Palin will not cooperate with the investigation is not a smear...it's a fact. Why would we want someone in a position, such as she's running for, that is so trigger happy to fire good employees because of her personall disllike of them. This is a sure sign of her character and lack of leadership abilities. Good leaders train and develop their people and embrace and cherish good employees despite what their personal feelings are of them. With that said, how does this reflect on John McCain not to hire a better qualified running mate. He is already making mistakes before he's there.

Posted by: McLame | September 16, 2008 12:51 AM | Report abuse

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