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I praised Sarah Palin's speech as a Republican revelation. I have written admiringly about John McCain's political independence and shockingly courageous life story. But McCain's speech tonight began slow and got slower (before its genuinely moving end). He set out a strong, overarching theme of restless reform -- then undermined that theme with uncreative, typically Republican policy. The speech was not a flop; it was a missed opportunity. But in a come-from-behind race, every missed opportunity is costly.

By Michael Gerson  | September 5, 2008; 2:28 AM ET
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We republicans are left with two combative leaders--McCain, known for his hot temper has chosen to interact with world leaders and to set the tone for our country's actions, someone who handles problems by acting like a pit bull (even with lipstick). We are living in a dangerous world, and we need statespeople, not fighters. What has happened to my party?

Posted by: Marywexer38 | September 5, 2008 5:35 AM | Report abuse

Noun, verb, “Tweety” McCain was a Viet Cong collaborator.

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Posted by: Marc Schlee | September 5, 2008 6:28 AM | Report abuse

The breathtaking cynicism and incompetence of the choice to put Palin on the ticket has sealed McCain's fate. Her snide condescending speech - full of lies - served to reinforce the notion that McCain has completely capitulated to the Rove/Delay slash and burn politics of the recent past. There is no honor in that. And no matter what he says, that is now his record.

What does Palin bring to the ticket? Creationism in the public schools? Censorship of the local library? Please. This woman is so out of touch with mainstream America it is laughable. McCain will learn this in the coming months.

McCain went to the political gutter this summer. He can try to climb out with his rhetoric, but the stench will stick to him until the grave. Sad. And pathetic.

Posted by: Paul | September 5, 2008 6:43 AM | Report abuse

Remember the Keating Five!

Posted by: Hugh Briss | September 5, 2008 6:54 AM | Report abuse

Hell hath no fury like a scorned speechwriter.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:08 AM | Report abuse

== He set out a strong, overarching theme
== of restless reform ....

It is impossible. Republicans, in 2008,
can't talk about "change" or "reform."

Because that would make them liars,
including the so-called "Maverick,"
and his new tail, "Miss Mooseburger."

Posted by: Marcaurelius | September 5, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

You say that "the speech wasn't a flop". Well, you're wrong. It was the worst speech ever given at this level. A horrible, uninspired, clumsy, badly-delivered botch.

Posted by: POed Lib | September 5, 2008 7:26 AM | Report abuse

I'm just not convinced that a 72-year-old who has served in the U.S. Senate for 26 years is going to "change Washington."

Posted by: David, Arlington, Texas | September 5, 2008 7:30 AM | Report abuse

It was a very backward looking speech with nothing forward looking except the promise to continue to be a "maverick" without specifics at all as to how to tame Washington to do McCain's bidding. Over rumination about the past hints of a senility in its construction and certainly of its delivery. Thanks McCain. Keep looking at the past and condeming it except for your record. You will surely lose with this approach. It's, afterall, the "vision thing" that also binds you to the Bush family. Even your vision of "victory" in Iraq is obtuse and obscured by your lack of "vision" concerning Afganistan, Pakistan and Bin Laden (mentioned at all?). Too bad you did not promise to follow HIM to the gates of Hell. That would have surely won over the independents.

Posted by: cbday | September 5, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

I'm not convinced that either McCain and Palin are capable of positive real change in this country. To begin with, and with all due respect for McCain's military background, neither of them represents Americans of today. Neither one of them are in touch with the realities of the problems this country truly faces. And they are incapable of intelligently discussing these issues.

The choice of Palin by McCain displays his ineptness. She has no meaningful experience worth a hoot regardless of the spin doctors. And I could deliver a speech just as well if Mr. Gerson or the actual speechwriter wrote one for me to deliver.
After all, she was well coached. She did a good job of it, there's no denying that, but delivering a speech does not qualify you to be Vice President or more likely President.

McCains health is a major issue also here.
After eight disastrous, wasteful years of Bush do we as patriotic Americans want not only more of the same, but additional devestating agendas from the Supreme Court and the religious right? I think not!

Posted by: sanity | September 5, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

What has happened to the Republican party? Colossal greed that they thought they would never be held to account for. Because they thought they could fix every election and scare people crapless enough not to notice what was going on.
Greed is what the GOP has become all about. Personal, middle class destroying greed. And it stinks on ice.

Posted by: Matt | September 5, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Disgrace to His Country

Two nights ago, I watched as Governor Sarah Palin led the Republican National Convention in cheers of “Drill Baby Drill” at a moment when humanity faces the most serious threat to our survival that has ever existed due to carbon-emissions-caused climate change.

Ms. Palin offered up pure Bush/Cheney drill and burn energy policy with obligatory, non-specific, nods to alternative energy. I don’t expect the Governor of a state that receives 80% of its revenues directly from oil companies to have a clear and unbiased view of our situation, but candidate John McCain has, in the past, displayed some understanding of the seriousness of the climate and energy issues we now face.

His choice of Palin as running mate and his endorsement last night of her speech, prove that this, supposed “maverick” politician has stooped to pandering to the most unconscious, ill-informed, and dangerous elements within his party.

His choice at this critical moment in our history shows a tremendous lack of character, honor, and integrity.

McCain’s support of Palin’s views and his attempt to, literally mis-lead the American people at a time of crisis simply to gain the support of some radical elements within his party, have accomplished what his Vietnamese captors could not: made John McCain a disgrace to himself and his country.

Posted by: Walton Stanley | September 5, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

It is more than just a case of the devil you know versus the one you don't. It's more like having terminal cancer and one doctor says "you're dying here's some pain killers" and the other saying "you're dying now but there's this experimental medicine that may cure you." Who in his right mind would not take the medicine on the chance - yes it's a risk - that it might save you? We know the Republican treatment - we've had it for eight years, now, and the country is slowly dying. McCain's speech amounts to a bottle of Tylenol.

Posted by: Abarafi | September 5, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

What's truly sad and scary is that we are on the verge of electing the most unqualified President in history. The in the tank Obamuppet media is on a dedicated
mission to place our savior Barack in the oval office. Good Luck to our country.
We're gonna need it.

Posted by: Steve Boston | September 5, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

The speech last night really revealed McCains age. He seemed lost and the speech confirmed the fact that is indeed out of touch with 21st century America; the same can be said about the Republican convention. Same slogans, same vitriol, and no real solutions, not to mention no hope. It was funny to see them blaming washington when they were in the drivers seat for the past 8 years. What is evident, which they will never admit, but I hope voters realize is that republican ideology and policies don't work in the real world, and certainly not in the age of globalization and diversification. The "old boys" club, overwhelmingly white and clearly male is reflected in their nominee, OLD!

Posted by: shakazuluonetime | September 5, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Looking at the records of all involved,I'm afraid we don't have a real choice.Can we have a do-over please?

Posted by: SherryGT | September 5, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

What Sanity said.

Mccain needs to come up with his own ideas, not steal from Obama, talking about "change." He isn't gonna change jack. He and Palin don't reflect and can't even empathize with the U.S. goes through.
They just care about making the rich richer and the poor poorer and continuing their stupid wars, trying to scare the rest of us w/ their fear tactics, all while taking a woman's right to choose away, censoring library books, and the list goes on.

Obama all the way.

Posted by: Right on | September 5, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

McCain has never been known for his oratory skills, but he is known as a man of principal, integrity, and character. I have serious doubts about Barack, as his background shows him to be an opportunist who says whatever he must (very eloquently, I might add), to get what he wants. I'll take a man of proven moral fiber over a great orator any day.

Posted by: Joyce | September 5, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

The Republican party looks and sounds like the participants on shows like "Jerry Springer." Sort of "we're completely nuts and irresponsible and refuse to admit it."Sadly they plan to continue foisting the most incompetent aspects of the GOP on the country until we become financially destitute and politically powerless. Perhaps their strategy to protect the U.S. from terrorism is to make us so weak and irrelevant that we are no longer of interest to those who fear modernity.

Posted by: Gwen Lebec | September 5, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

The multiple signs saying "Straight Talk" spoke volumes to the fact that the RNC will come out full barrel against gay rights. It was a a well thought out double meaning campaign strategy.

Posted by: LynnMP | September 5, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Actually, McCain's speech was right on the mark. We've drifted away as a people, as Americans, as to what makes us strong. The core, foundational ideologies of freedom, liberty, small government and personal responsibility. The fact that government has grown far too large and that we have moved from our core American principles is indisputable. Obama's ideologies comprise the exact things that have damaged our country; the growth of big governmnet has to stop. McCain is the ONLY choice.

Posted by: Jay | September 5, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Actually, McCain's speech was right on the mark. We've drifted away as a people, as Americans, as to what makes us strong. The core, foundational ideologies of freedom, liberty, small government and personal responsibility. The fact that government has grown far too large and that we have moved from our core American principles is indisputable. Obama's ideologies comprise the exact things that have damaged our country; the growth of big governmnet has to stop. McCain is the ONLY choice.

Posted by: Jay | September 5, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Now he's all about change? McCain too old to be a truly energized and inspired change agent. McCain is a joke at this point. Most boring, meandering speech I've ever heard. And the content was as weak as the delivery.

Posted by: brian | September 5, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

What a pathetic speech. This is the best the republicans have to offer? how pathetic.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

McCain's real problem is that he has to overcome an eight year history of Republican incompetence on every aspect of governing except for defending the homeland. That's a hard road to climb, and I don't think even Sarah Palin, can get him over this hump. It's a damn shame McCain lost to Bush 8 years ago. We'd have been in much better shape today if that had happened.

Now, we're left with Obama and Biden. They should help revive the middle class, but no matter who's in the White House, the economy is going to stink for the next five years, thanks to Republican and Democrat greed, arrogance, and incompetence

Posted by: feudi | September 5, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is scary. She's a theocrat who supports extremist christian doctrine above constitutional law. She doesn't believe in global warming or environmental protection. She supports hunting wolves from aircrat (what a sportsman!) and wants to allow a gold and copper mine the size of Delaware with no protection against the millions of gallons of acidic, cynanide-laced effluent the mine will generate.

She is the worst possible combination of James Watt and Dan Quayle. Her selection, a selection that was promoted for months by Rush Limbaugh, shows that when it comes to putting America first, John McCain is a liar.

Posted by: Larry-T | September 5, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Sorry folks. A pitbull with lipstick is still a bit ch!

Posted by: Larry Oregon | September 5, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

I am so out of touch with reality. I'm your typical propaganda repeating republican.

Posted by: Jay | September 5, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't "Maverick" was a gambler and con man?

Posted by: Alex O | September 5, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

I couldn't help noticing the "University Republican's for McCain" poster at the convention last night. When a college student goes to the effort of making an attractive poster with an obvious English-language mistake, one can see how low the standards of language usage have dropped. It might just as well have been at the Democratic Convention, though. It does show me that the best minds generally do not go into politics, which elevates oversimplification to an art form.

Posted by: joey eisenzopf | September 5, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

McCain's speech will be looked back upon as the death knell of the Republican party. His choice of Palin, the flopping around on the deck like a fish out water between a hollow call for change and the sellout to the social conservative ultra nut ball christian fringe, John McCain, has turned the spotlight on the irrelevancy of the Republican party going forward. Even if he wins the election, Republicans are done.

Posted by: Dcollins | September 5, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Where were the minorities? I tried looking hard for them at the RNC and only saw a handful for them.
That is NOT the American I know!

Posted by: rainbows | September 5, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

When you parade your pregnant 17 year old daughter onto a national stage - you open yourself and your family up to the spotlight and the questions. If Palin didnt want this, she shouldnt have brought that little girl and her little boyfriend onto the stage for the world to see. We all know why she had to do it, but you get the good with the bad. They should all get used to this, because as election day nears, it wil only get worse.

Posted by: RJinchi | September 5, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Both Cindy and John's speeches tonight were both lackluster and poorly delivered. Cindy is just plain creepy. And McCain came across as a doddering old man who kept repeating the same lines again and again. I especially despised the 911 tribute which unsuccessfully tried to lump the Iranian hostage crisis of the 70's in with 911?! REALLY exploitive and misleading in my opinion. Typical vote for us or you will die Republican handbook. And I think it was sick when he talked about his pistol packing mother of five partner. YUCK! GO OBAMA!

Posted by: Radio3142 | September 5, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

I could have voted John McCain 8 years ago. Regretfully the Karl Rove / Bush smear machine prevented it. Today it's sad to witness how once an honorary man has bowed to the evangelical freaks.

Moreover, a convention with just 36 African American delegates (out of 2800) hardly represents the new diversified multi-cultural America. This is a party for old white folks, with an agenda from the past, spearheaded by a 72-year old nominee.

Posted by: No country for old men | September 5, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

IMHO, McCain would have gotten a bump if he had shown up late for his own acceptance speech.

As it was, he appeared to be sealed off in his own CONE OF SILENCE.

How could one even consider voting for someone who won't play by the rules for even the most trivial of showcases....i.e. the ego-driven Rick Warren event???

Posted by: values voter | September 5, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

But, but, but... he was a P.O.W.!!!!!!!!


Random Guantanamo Prisoner for President '08
http://therealmccain.com/butler/

Posted by: Jake | September 5, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Republicans are mssing an important segment in their DNA that allows them to see through BS. Maverick and Moose are in the business of selling snake oil. They are liars and cheats. They are beholden to big oil and big business. They are owned by the special interestes. Have the past 8 years taught these voters anything? Seriously, I hear people saying," I just lost my job" or "I'm concerned about the cost of health care" or "I'd like to see gas prices go down" and in the same breath I hear them say, "That's why I like McCain." Are republican voters just that stupid?

Posted by: MaxMax | September 5, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Joyce writes, > And McCain is not saying whatever he must to the Rove/Bush/Cheney philosopy and Extreme Christian right to get what he wants?! Come on! Take off the rose colored glasses.

Posted by: Parsonsbench | September 5, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse


John McCain's speech wasn't the same barn burners that Obama's or Palin's were, no doubt.

But John has never been about the speeches. He is about character. His best connections come from more intimate settings where he can truly connect with people.

I admire people like Obama and Palin who can electrify crowds like that. But it really is just political theatre and has little to do with a leaders ability to.. lead.

Posted by: reason | September 5, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

ZZZZZZZZZZZ...Huh? Did he give his speech already? Was it any good? I slept right through it.

Posted by: Doug Taylor | September 5, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Looks like McCain is on course to do to the Republican Party what he's done to several airplanes.

How many Republicans will bail out, and how many will just strap themselves in tighter and hope it's a crash they can walk away from?

Posted by: Whippy | September 5, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I too am a veteran of Vietnam and thought highly of McCain through the years. However, I was recently made aware that this so called hero returned from our war to find that his wife, who had been a model, had been in a car accident that left her disfigured and in need of repeated operations. They had three children. Hero that he is John McCain almost immediatly took up with a college coed many years his junior, shortly later he abandons his wife and three children and within a month of the divorce marries the coed, to whom he is married today. Let me see, we spend $16 million to impeach Bill Clinton for infidelity and now want to elect a man who abandoned his injured wife and three children. Hero indeed. FS

Posted by: F. Stein | September 5, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Argh... the quote got removed! I intended to say, Joyce writes, " have serious doubts about Barack, as his background shows him to be an opportunist who says whatever he must (very eloquently, I might add), to get what he wants." Now continue with my response (above).

Posted by: parsonsbench | September 5, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

The same Republicans who now cheer McCain's independent streak, deplored him because he wasn't conservative or "Christian" enough. That poor boy who got Palin's daughter pregnant and is now forced to squirm in front of the national TV seems less phony than those cynical or hypocritical conservatives who now cheer "change."

Posted by: nudels | September 5, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

John McCain just invented a new sleeping agent for millions of people across the nation...His speeches and policies. HAHA! Now I don't need my Tylenol PM anymore.

Posted by: Doug Taylor | September 5, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

I agree 100%

What's truly sad and scary is that we are on the verge of electing the most unqualified President in history. The in the tank Obamuppet media is on a dedicated
mission to place our savior Barack in the oval office. Good Luck to our country.
We're gonna need it.

Posted by: Steve Boston

Posted by: DaveH | September 5, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Go Mccain/Palin!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, it doesn't really matter what McCain says or does. The same morons who elected Bush TWICE will vote for him anyway…

Posted by: J Edwards | September 5, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

John McCain=
Keating Five
Pander Politics
Against Bush Before He Was For Bush Before He Was Against Him, But Needs His Money
Against Romney Before He Was For Romney Because He Needs His Money
Against Big Oil Before He Was For Big Oil Because He Needs It's Money
For Experience (Lieberman VP) Before He Was Against Experience (Palin VP) Because He Needs The Right Wing
Against the Right Wing Before He Was For The Right Wing Because He Needs Their Money

Posted by: ol' john | September 5, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

McCain made it clear that is he the only choice for POTUS. He has my full support and vote.

Posted by: Buzz | September 5, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Wow! So this is where the mind-numbed, Marxist lemmings come to congregate. The depth of all of your commentary and "insight" (ha-ha) reminds me of my toddler's swimming pool. You have all been hypnotized by the eloquence of Mr. Obama's vapid speech-making. I have some disappointing news for all of you....McCain and Palin are going to win handily. Since Obama has no real record, his associations will be his undoing. When middle America gets in the privacy of that booth in November, the uncertainty of just who Mr. Obama really is, and their confidence in who John McCain is, assures me that America will make the right decicion.

Posted by: Joey | September 5, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

We have two choices:

1. Elect a War Hero

2. Elect a Communist (nee Democrat)

BO can't even speak without a Teleprompter. Limbaugh has a tape of him saying ugh a total of 8 minutes in a 45 minute news conference. The man is a moron, who's economic plan will not only damage the country but also affect peoples life savings...

Hell, I'd take George McGovern over him..

Posted by: Eddie | September 5, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

we the foxes are going to clean up the henhouse and keep the chickens.......er citizens safe. we are going to root out corruption and........ after we root out the corruption we.....wait who is going to be left in the party? c'mon do they really believe that most americans are morons?

Posted by: jeff | September 5, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Palin's speech a revelation? Maybe, if by that you mean it revealed the depths of snarkiness the GOP is willing to sink to in its desperate attempt to swift boat Barack Obama. If you mean it revealed just how hypocritical, cynical and treasonous it was of McCain to choose this obviously under-qualified bloodthirsty moose hunter as a VP. The idea that a man who claims to care about this country could even for one minute countenance the possibility of Sarah Palin running this country is prepostorous - so Palin's speech was a true revelation that John McCain doesn't give a fig about this country. He cares about beating Barack Obama, whatever the cost.

Posted by: Tom | September 5, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

RE: Remember the Keating Five!

Posted by: Hugh Briss | September 5, 2008 6:54 AM
________________________________
Yeah, I remember it was liberal Dims convicted not John mcCain

Posted by: jen | September 5, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Drill baby Drill, yes, that is the idea, why not drill? It makes no sense to not drill while we are trying to find alternative fuels. I for one don't want to be held hostage to foreign countries that can charge what ever they want for their oil. I vote we use our oil, get the prices down where they belong, and work on the alternative fuels. No matter what happens we have to use our own fuel sources while we are searching for viable alternative fuels. It's a no-brainer. ex. If I have $50,000 in the bank and I need a new car, why would I want to borrow the money at 15% interest? Are you people too foolish and childish to figure this out?

Posted by: Drilldeepandquick | September 5, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps he needs to remind us more often that he was a POW. I'm not sure he's done that enough times.

Posted by: melior | September 5, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

I really don't want four more years of the POW story. We tell the black race to get over slavery-to let it go so please McBush-just let it go! We know already what happened long ago but we also realize you were not in charge of making any executive decisions from that camp. Secondly, what happened on 9-11 was tragic and does not belong to the Republicans. Therefore, that tragedy should not be exploited to try to raise favorable votes. If anyone votes for McBush based on that exploitation, they are really dishonoring the victims and their families. Finally, no one wants their families discussed but yet they opened the door in their speeches. Therefore let's discuss the "family" man's other family i.e., Carol Shepp McCain and the dear john treatment she and the children received!!

Posted by: esh | September 5, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Are all republicans morons or is it just the ones we see on tv? And is there a republican who doesnt repeat the same propaganda over and over and over? These republicans are complete idiots.

Posted by: Bob | September 5, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

I've been watching all the speeches and when McCain came on, I actually fell asleep, he was so dull & boring, he is not a speaker at all and said nothing about nothing. The scary part about this whole election is that 'neither' of them are really good choices and that is 'all we have'. I think if it was possible we should throw away their names & start all over again with people that really know how to run a country. Too bad the voting choices won't have 'none of the above' cause at this moment, that is about the best choice. This country is in so much trouble in so many ways and neither can help us. Do we go with Barack with no experience and 'change', or do we go with McCain who chose Palin with no experience and differences with McCain and totally religious and have more of the same? It's a tough one and no one knows what everyone will do on Election day, very very sad.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

There was little substance to his speech, few direct policies and no numbers to support his claims or goals. He spoke to the base and lost my vote.

Posted by: behaha | September 5, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

I am truly uninspired by McCain and Palin!!! And truthfully, I'm 40/60 on the Democrats!! I don't believe anyone out there on the National political scene "Get's It!"...Look at our unemployment figures that came out this morning...8 months of continued rise...jobs have been outsourced overseas. Do BIG corporations really care? No, they are looking at the bottom line for their investors.

I don't remember if McCain mentioned Health Care in his uninspiring speech last night! Housing crisis? Nothing said about that....it's just the same OLD song, sung by old & new faces. Could it be that by the time an elected official makes his/her way to Washington, they have sold their soul to special interest groups and/or BIG business??? REAL change would mean "cleaning out" everyone in Washington and begining anew. There are systems that are entrenched in Washington that won't be going away anytime soon.

Still, this country remains THE BEST in the free world. I am proud to be an American!!! And I thank God every day.

Where does "real change" begin???
Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to post.

Posted by: dabruser | September 5, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

"This woman is so out of touch with mainstream America it is laughable."

We have several main streams here in the northwest that have relentlessly carved a path right to the edge of a cliff. It makes for some spectacular waterfalls. Have you considered for a moment that "mainstream America" might be off course?

Posted by: Rob | September 5, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Drilldeepandquick | September 5, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Now I know what the Dems felt like when they had to pin all thier hopes on Kerry in '04.

Our party is having a melt down.

Posted by: Blunt | September 5, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Having been "aware" since the Kenedy-Nixon election, I am always bemused at the idiocy of the general public at election time. 'Change' from a Chigago Democratic Machine politician, aided by Joe "Politico" Biden, or from John "Wrap Myself in the Flag" McCain and his Sidekick "I'm your typical Soccer Mom/State Governor" Palin? You people need to get out more!

No election has ever "changed" anything, because you only get to vote for the toadies that you're offered by the Parties and the Media. Mark Twain had it right; he said he didn't vote for the political nominees "because it only encourages them".

If everybody refused to vote, do you really think they would disolve the government?

Posted by: yeubanc | September 5, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Drilldeepandquick | September 5, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

We have always Respected and Honored McCain's service to this country. But we know who is spinning the message Schmidt and Rove known as the guys that brought us two George W. Bush terms and now they want to sell us a third Bush term.

McCain called for an end to the“constant partisan rancor”. Yet his campaign ads have attacked American Artists by attempting to brand them as just celebrities. Barack Obama is like Ronald Reagan when it comes to support of the Talented Artists of their time. Obama's message rings of a “Beautiful day coming to America” which is similar to Reagan's "Its morning in america again".

McCain's campaign has gone after the media who are asking the important questions that help keep the voters informed about the contrasts between the Democrat and Republican Parties in the most important election of our times.

After watching this Republican convention the first impression was the Republicans rallied their base by attacking Obama/Biden instead of presenting a clear case for voting for McCain. What about their solutions for the issues voters care about? A missed opportunity for the Republicans. Follow up impression common sense now says that its Obama/Biden who can end the “constant partisan rancor” in Washington DC.

When McCain says the last weeks of this campaign will be hard fought, nothing personally, just the nature of the business we know what McCain, Schmidt and Rove are saying – more negative attacks, more slash and burn tactics. When McCain says “Change is coming,” to Washington DC – The voters look at the Schmidt, Rove and Fox News attacking and we know what is coming – A Pit Bull? Avoid The Pit Bull with Lip Stick when The Pit Bull attacks. Who says we must fight on their turf? Let them come to ours. This race is still Obama/Biden vs McCain/Bush.

America can have a beautiful day in November by Voting for Change we can believe in

U2 can have a beautiful day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omFdpnSu57U

U2 can dance with us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY

Join us!

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Cooday | September 5, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I agree that I'm just not convinced that a 72-year-old who has served in the U.S. Senate for 26 years is going to "change Washington."

Posted by: thambi | September 5, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Give Palin to Michael Vick. He's got a thing for pit bulls.

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Posted by: Drilldeepandquick | September 5, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

McCain said he was "broken" by those N. Vietnamese captors. but the reality is he's broken NOW, and by his own GOP. this is not the man that ran against Bush 8 years ago.

the reason he looks so old and deflated is because being disingenuous to yourself eventually kills a man. if elected, he won't make the 1st term, which is what the Right wants anyway. the reason they're so excited about Palin is because that's who they REALLY want for President. but they know she would never get elected. so now they have a way of getting a radical into the Oval Office. scary!

Posted by: Quan | September 5, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

What is wrong with these people? Granted I live in NY and tend to lean towards the liberal side, but is middle American blind or just stupid? Have you looked as the camersa pan over the crowds at the RNC. The only hint of diversity is in the difference of the hats and the color blond in the hair.
This is a pipe dream. It isnt the reality of America today and teh Republicans are sadly out of touch with reality. I was once a Republican. Before the party was sold to right wing religious fanatics and war mongers. IF this ticket wins I fear middle America willget what they deserve and that is absolutely nothing.

Posted by: Bruce | September 5, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

I sense a theme here in the repetitive use of the word 'change'. Can anyone be specific as to what 'change' is. Have you stopped to think what the ramifications of this 'change' might be?
And, Bob you're an idiot.

Posted by: Bruce | September 5, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

McCain's speech was completely horrible. Palin's was too although her writing was better. The substance of both were lacking any positive information for changing our country in a better way. McCain said his administration will give people jobs while not saying what industries. Obama clearly says he will revamp this countries infrastructure and create a green economy. That is a plan. People are quick to point out that it will cost but I believe a plan is better than no plan at all. Obama is often criticized for empty rhetoric but whose words lack substance. Palin's idea of change is having a younger pitbull of a different sex occupying the VP seat. The difference between George Bush and John McCain seems to be a smigeon less of constraint in his smile.

I hear people saying that they can't vote for Obama because of Obama's lack of experience but all of John McCain's experience has only taught him that you have to play along to get along. He is not standing up to big oil. He is not standing up to corporate America. He is not standing up to George Bush's failed policies. The only thing he stands up to is the concept of being a maverick. Meanwhile the "maverick" does nothing different from what his base wants. The same base that impowered a war in a country that had not attacked us and was not going to. The same base that has waisted 8 years in the White House and has created deficits while losing ground to our international competition.

McCain was firing up the war machine was again for Iran. If Iran needs to be set right we are not the world's police. That is what the UN is for. If we ramp up militarily so does Russia and China. Can people not see the evidence of that in the last 8 years.

Obama may not be a perfect candidate becuase of his seeming lack of expereince but I would argue that he has the right experience for the job of president and he has been right on issues. And he is standing up to his party and the countery by making clear policy plans and standing behind his decisions.

The only empty words I hear are from the McCain/Palin ticket.

Thanks for reading!

Posted by: Cameron Toth | September 5, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I think it says something that our standards of oratory have fallen so low that Palin's speech is considered good! Some 50 years ago Kennedy got cheers for "Ich bin ein Berliner!" today we cheer "I am a pit bull with lipstick!"

Posted by: Shadowrider | September 5, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

hahaha, i have been reading a lot of angry, cynical, and fearful liberals lately on blogs and forums of all sorts and i'm loving it. could it be that a sure win year for the liberals have now become a toss up?

it's okay. there's still two months before the election. your messiah can still tout his "yes we can" while putting down palin as having no experience. oh, the messiah doesn't have experience either you say? too bad.

no matter how you slice it, it was a successful convention. you can try to convince yourselves otherwise, but your messiah will not be crowned without a fight.

Posted by: jk | September 5, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

The 72 year old Jerry Springer who served in WEashington for 26, with wooden hands and cooked uplies, teamed with a bimbo who thinks global warming is imaginary and has a daughter who is pregnant at 17....wow, USA, USA,USA!!

Posted by: CK | September 5, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Is middle American blind or just stupid?

stupid. need proof? go visit them and see for yourself. these are the dumbest people in the world. theyre the reason the US is the laughing stock of the industrialized world.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

As an American living in Britain I was amazed by the radio stations here who thought that the sound clip of McCain's speech was Pres Bush. Hah! They truly do sound the same in both tone and content!

Republicans = Facepalm

Posted by: A W | September 5, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Are all democrats morons or is it just the ones we see on tv? And is there a democrat who doesnt repeat the same propaganda over and over and over? These democrats are complete idiots...see works both ways...

There will only be change when we, the people, change the players. I'm for term limits on congress, that is the only way we get change.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Obama told me to say:

McCain's military record isn't important, cause I will never have to use the military, I can cow evil with a magnificent speech.

McCain's record of 90% voting with President Bush is bad, much worse than a 99% liberal voting record.

McCain's speeches suck, he can write law and vote for what is right, but he can't even read a teleprompter?

Experience is defined as 2 years in the Senate, most of which should be book tours and prepping for a Presidential run.

Obama will be the next President, because MSNBC told me so!

Posted by: Matt | September 5, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

The 72 year old Jerry Springer who served in Washington for 26, with wooden hands and cooked up lies, teamed with a bimbo who thinks global warming is imaginary and has a daughter who is pregnant at 17....wow, USA, USA,USA!!

Posted by: CK | September 5, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

I'm ashamed of you, Republican and Democratic parties.. ashamed!

There's another way; there are other parties. Look for them. Parties that accurately represent the views of the members. Does your party accurately represent your views?

Posted by: Professor_Arkham | September 5, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse


With friends like the squisy little Gerson, whoo needs enemies.

Oh boy did he climb down when the polls showed that the American eople got Palin!

Abrasive, mocking, snotty load of bee hive ambition with no class. That as veep or God help us, president would be a silly joke.

Gerson as a straw in the wind.

Posted by: last straw | September 5, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

When will Gerson be indicted?

Posted by: John | September 5, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I just didn't ever really get the sense that McCain really cared about "me", an average American.

With all the maverick hoopla and war hero films, I got more of an impression that he's running for President for "him"- for "HIS" legacy. It seems like an ego thing- not like he really is driven to change anything.

I absolutely appreciate and respect his service to our country, but that is not what I base my vote on. My vote is based on who I think will make the best decisions... for the future... and not dwell on the past.

I like Obama.

Posted by: sally | September 5, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Careful Gerson, They'll take away your pundit license.

Posted by: GWequalsWPE | September 5, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Is there even one positive comment on this board? Our nation faces so much and negativity only magnifies our situation. If we want change I think it needs to be positive change. This needs to begin with each of us. There are some positive directions that our nation is heading in, aren't there?

Posted by: Barry | September 5, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

The facts are there for all to see; a search of public records and their own statements are readily available.

No, Ms. Palin is not the pit bull on Gov't spending she claims to be and Obama's claims are not all true either.

But those whose task it is to bring us the facts, refuse to verify the claims. In the world of the internet, statements made in a speech could be verified in real-time.

Regards,

Posted by: Nancy_Naive | September 5, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Thank You John McCain! You made the decision very easy for me. I'll be voting for OBAMA for POTUS.

Posted by: Gary | September 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

For 20 of the last 28 years, the GOP has controlled the WH.

McCain, stating little in the way of specifics last night, but broadly suggesting he'll continue Bush's tax cuts and his middle east wars waxes that he'll be the agent of change.

The disconnect between Palin's attack dog partisan screed and last night's half baked middle of the road trip down memory lane, couldn't be starker. As is the disconnect between Palin's far right fringe thinking and McCain's alleged bipartisan reach.

So yea I get it. McCain did his duty, got savaged as a POW and has spent the same 28 years in DC largely supporting the GOP's agenda.

But that isn't change, that's rhetoric. And McCain looks a lot like Bob Dole in 1996. Old and died in the GOP wool.


Posted by: MA | September 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

We went through almost 8 years now with the Texas Mustang. Let's just say that "performance" could have been a lot better. Seems we got suckered into the "Charlie's Angel's" style Mustang.

Now we are looking at a Maverick and a Pinto! The Maverick is sacrificing good gas mileage for weak performance with no style or substance. The Pinto blows up whenever it's slapped in the rear!

We need to step away from the 70s Ford product line.

Posted by: Indignant | September 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Too much to do,
too little time.
The old and sour
have had their hour.

Posted by: WmConelly | September 5, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Unlike others on this blog, I’m glad to see McCain articulate a vision of returning to a basic Republican Platform of limited government and is willing to take on the challenge of reforming a party that has lost its way. What has Obama articulated, being a product of the Famous Corrupt Chicago political machine offer but a Carter and Dukakis platform with better packaging? Fruit Cake is Fruit Cake whether is in an old cheesy dollar store package or in a slick and handsome media created. They may be able to get you to buy it with the slick packaging but it still taste like crap. The hucksters in the media, like Billy Mays can sell almost anything even the Obamomatic which can do everything for you.

What a bunch of victims!

Posted by: mcrouch | September 5, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Ditto what SherryGT said. To become the president of what is currently the most powerful, influential nation on earth... these are our two choices!?!?! The most telling, sobering revelation that has occurred since the campaigning began in January of '07 is that the American political system is broken. Regardless of whether the Dems or the GOP win their fight-to-the-death, America is in for a very tough time in the coming years. It's a pity. I know there are some genuine, visionary leaders in our nation. They just don't have 200 million dollars to spend, and/or the media haven't liked the way they smile. Fasten your seat belts................

Posted by: Dan Samuelson | September 5, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

I find these comments hilarious. Please show me how raising taxes and socialized health care will fix the economy. Listen to Obama and tell me how many times he says change. Then read his economic plan and tell me why we shouldn't go live in another socialist country. I'm not saying he's not American or patriotic, but his ideals for redistributing wealth and the high government involvement is too much. For the record, I did vote Obama in the primary, but now I'm voting McCain.

Posted by: Jared | September 5, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Very disappointing ticket. One constantly harping his war record. Military record alone does not qualify a person to lead the country. The country that has beed weakened by the partisan idealogue, like President Bush. We need leaders who understand soft diplomacy, not the tough talking, inexperienced hockey mom.

Posted by: Maung Maung | September 5, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Palin brings Obamaness to the McCain ticket. Obamaness is a great idea. That's why McCain wanted to reinforce that it doesn't matter who thought of it first. If it's a good idea lets use it. The Republican leaders have now become followers. After following on the Obamaness, they then try to inject just enough fear to keep you voting Rep, but not enough fear to keep you from going to work in the morning.

Brilliant strategy. It has worked for dictators across the globe.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Very disappointing ticket. One constantly harping his war record. Military record alone does not qualify a person to lead the country. The country that has beed weakened by the partisan idealogue, like President Bush. We need leaders who understand soft diplomacy, not the tough talking, inexperienced hockey mom.

Posted by: Maung Maung | September 5, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

I've accepted the fact that my party is out of touch. I've accepted the fact that they no longer care about the general man, past his vote of course. I've accepted the fact that my party's VP nominee denies and discourages science, contraception, unity. I've accepted the fact that my party has turned to manipulation and sympathy as our foundation this cycle starts to crumble. All I ask now is that next cycle, give us a couple peeps that don't talk through their nose. This is driving me nuts.

Posted by: Headache | September 5, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

I can admit that McCains speech wasn't electrifying like Palin's, but I think he made his point. The RNC seemed much more patriotic than the DNC. When I think about who this country was founded by I know it was people like those who filled the halls at the RNC.

Posted by: ProudtobGOP | September 5, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Worst. Speech. Ever.

They promised specifics of how they were going to fix the country, yet offered platitudes of "change" (the same thing they criticized Obama for even though Obama/Biden have been all over the country since their convention laying out their specific plans).

Playing nice after your surrogates excoriate everything right and decent about America and act more divisive than Karl Rove is not change. It's irrationality, hypocracy, and recklessness.

Posted by: Andrew | September 5, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

It was too late before it even started. And now we get vague promises to change Party doctrine. They have already told too many lies and have no credibility left to exploit. The GOP has ruined America in every respect and needs a long rest from the presidency, rule by decree and catering to "good ól boy" lobbies. Let's get back to fundamentals and restore our Republic..!

Posted by: Tired | September 5, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I am dismayed that people would liken Sarah Palin to a pit bull. American Pit Bull Terriers are loving animals except when they are trained to be vicious. As the Humane Society of the United States has said, "While breed is one factor that contributes to a dog's temperament, it alone cannot be used to predict whether a dog may pose a danger to his or her community." The United Kennel Club states with respect to the American Pit Bull Terrier, "Aggressive behavior toward humans is uncharacteristic of the breed . . . ." See:
http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/Breeds/AmericanPitBullTerrier
I am therefore outraged that people keep unfairly disparaging pit bulls by comparing Sarah Palin to one.

Posted by: Pitbull Pal | September 5, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Do you want Palin to nominate the next Supreme Court justice?

Posted by: Carolink | September 5, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Sadly, McCain's line about how Republicans who went to change Washington and ended up changed by Washington was his most biographical statement. The man who once distanced himself from Rove tactic and the far right is now employing both.

Posted by: Beth | September 5, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

I used my remote and switch in and out I got more excitement watching a sci-fi show "Jeremiah" about a brave new world after a holocaust.
John McCain is a veteran, but that was almost 30 years ago. We have had to deal with Bosnia, Kuwait and many other conflicts in between. He is so STUCK in the past he can not see the forest for the trees.
He has no more executive experience than Sen. Obama as far as the Senate. He has a staff that keeps him up to date.
I can not see him managing a cabinet and domestic issue that he has little interest in. I can not see him taking an interest in the complexities of Health care he is always looking for BROAD STROKE fixes an he does not have an eye for the details.
He has life experience, but he is not up to speed on technology and science.
He may be a man of faith, but he does not come across as someone who will consult his higher power when wrestling with moral dilemas.
He does not strike me as insightful. He may work across party line, but I believe he does it in a competitive way never losing sight of HIS GOAL, rather than truly seeing the other persons issues.
I trust that he LOVES this country VERY MUCH, but I can not see him picking advisors and cabinet members any differently than Pres. BUSH.

Posted by: Lonestarkaty, Rockville,MD | September 5, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

"McCain has never been known for his oratory skills, but he is known as a man of principal, integrity, and character. I have serious doubts about Barack, as his background shows him to be an opportunist who says whatever he must (very eloquently, I might add), to get what he wants. I'll take a man of proven moral fiber over a great orator any day."

Who was the last President that was elected as a man of unwavering principles and convictions? How did (is) that working out?

I, for one, would like to have a President that doesn't give the world the impression that we are all a bunch of ill-informed, uneducated cowboys.

And what about the moral fiber that says it is wrong to cheat on your wife? Or to leave her for a younger woman?

I remember taking a vow to be with my wife "in sickness and in health, until death". I guess some vows are more binding than others.

Principle, integrity, and character... Ha!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

I am so amazed at the profuse judgementalism, naivete and self-serving remarks by the majority of responders on this page. It's obvious that those who have not responded in like manner are the ones who may have a greater sense of what it really means to be free and value this country we are so blessed to live in. If one is to call most of you who posted on this site fellow Americans, I am ashamed. Freedom of speech notwithstanding. Why so much anger?

Posted by: Keith | September 5, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

How the hell did the Evangelical crazies hijack the party of Abraham Lincoln? Our Republican party need a serious make-over ASAP - or WE could disappear from the political landscape. As the late and great William F. Buckley Jr. said before his passing - George Bush has destroyed our party. I don't think William F. Buckley had Sarah Palin and John McCain in mind as the party leaders who would repair the damage from Bush & Cheney.

Cindy McCain is an air head. Palin believes Alaska is a refuge state. And McCain believes oil and drilling is the answer to all our worries - like Bush thought tax cuts would solve world hunger. We Republicans better wake up - we can't rely on any more simpletons with one trick strategies to reapir our party or lead this nation.

Posted by: steve | September 5, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

....or near the red phones and buttons..?

Posted by: Tired | September 5, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Thank you. Thank you for posting so many negative comments about McCain's speech, McCain's over-the-hill status, McCain's lies, the Republican party's irrelevance. Thank you for seeing through Sarah Palin's goody-two-shoes act and thanks for understanding how unsuited she is to be VP, and how dangerous her religion-driven agenda is.

I was beginning to worry. The national polls show a close race between Obama and McCain. I understand, Obama is not perfect. However, Obama is clearly the better choice. Obama offers hope. McCain offers certain disaster.

Posted by: Ed Sommers | September 5, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Regarding the rhetoric of "redistribution of wealth" - we should be reminded that our tiered tax brackets are by definition a redistribution of wealth. McCain isn't going to give us a flat tax. McCain isn't going to drop your taxes to zero. What we're arguing about here is single-digit percentage points on the upper 5% of earners.

Posted by: RE: Jared | September 5, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Let me help the democrats suffering from alzhiemer...I heard the same Obama rhetoric two years ago when the Dem's touted change.

In less then two years they took a Congress with a favorable rating of 40% and plunged it to 15%...half that of supposedly the most unpopular president in history.

I don't think we as a nation can afford to much more of their flavor of change...even if half the nation is too brain dead to realize it.

Posted by: dan | September 5, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Palin is headstrong, sure of herself, puts her own opinion first, never mind the facts. Our current president is similar.

What most don't know is that, in his way, Neville Chamberlain was just as headstrong. Properly, under the British system, the entire cabinet would have had to discuss and vote on any agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain acted unilaterally (and in opposition to policy.) Like Palin, he went against his party, went against his cabinet. They had to accept Chamberlain's bad judgment and bad actions. That cost them dearly.

Bad results from acting unilaterally, headstrongly, are not limited to making a bad agreement in Munich. We have 7+ years of examples to show the wide variety of failures that can result.

Palin is an atrocious choice for ANY significant federal position. McCain made that atrocious choice. Looks like his "maverick" nature is mostly a matter of his being headstrong.

We not only don't need that in our President, we need to not have it. Nor in our Vice President.

Posted by: hewhoasks | September 5, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin represent the beliefs of 50% of the people of this great country. Obama doesn't have a clue about rural Americans. If Obama is elected, just remember our taxes will probably double because of his plan to give money away to people who won't work. Also, we'll be paying reparations to the blacks for slavery. That will sure take a bite out of our tax dollar. Obama may be a better speaker that McCain, but I trust McCain/Palin ticket to lead America more than Obama because I just can't get out of my mind seeing his preacher of 20 years belittle America and the white race. I mean how could anyone really listen to that for 20 years and defend him!!!

Posted by: Kitty | September 5, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Zero-bama, Wright, Ayers, Farrakhan,REZKO... ACORN community organizing.
Chicago thugs and slimeballs.

Posted by: jen | September 5, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

The Republican Party and the McCain/Palin ticket offers resistance to progress. They fail to take culture seriously, in fact they denounce it. The Democrats have set the tone of the debate.The Democrats support a cultural politics built around autonomy of the individual. The Republicans have squandered the cultural and economic capital built up by previous generations. Our nation is in trouble and it will take a person of vision to inspire the people of this nation. McCain/Palin epitomize everything polically that is wrong with our country. They don't understand the change we need. McCain may have years of experience but it pales in comparison to the vision and leadership of Barack Obama.

Posted by: Maria | September 5, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Looks like the moveon/democraticundergound/koz memos have been sent out.

Posted by: cbronson | September 5, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

With the "less is less" headline, I thought maybe Gerson had finally seen the light and was admitting what a nasty piece of work Palin is. Put lipstick on her, she's still a dog in the manger.

Posted by: scientist1 | September 5, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

McCain says he is going to fix the economy and make change. Wait a minute I thought they ( Republicans & Rush ) said there is no problem with the economy, everything is fine just the way it is. What is all this new talk about change. After all Bush is your guy !!

Posted by: Former Republican | September 5, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Let me begin by saying that I was originally a registered Republican, not anymore. This talk of change from the Republican party is very interesting to me. I actually used to believe in the party, but no longer. The fact is I am 25 years old and for the majority of my lifetime, the GOP has dominated Washington without any results.
Also, I watched both conventions because I believe it is important to actually be informed. I was extremely bothered by the Republicans' speeches. The party actually scares me. Above all, I have the hardest time rationalizing why the party consistently uses the tragedy of 9/11 for political gain. I am an American, I am patriotic and I am offended by the Republican party using 9/11 to justify everything it does. There are no words to describe how awful that event was for our country and the wound it left. However, the America I believe in would honor and remember, but also push forward into the future with more resolve for our nation's greatest asset, freedom. By brining up the tragedy everytime they speak, the Republicans seek to make Americans believe we are not safe and only they can protect us. I've been to ground zero, I've cried over stories of devastation, hope, and healing, and I am sickened by a party that would use 9/11 in such a political way.

Posted by: Blynn | September 5, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

I think that a lot of people are missing the point. Not only was the speech badly delivered, which we all know. Hiding behind a bad delivery doesn't account for the fact that it was an empty speech. It was basically " Vote for me because you owe me.. Did I tell you that I was a POW ?"

Posted by: Ron | September 5, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

I laughed at the comment that the founders of this nation were people like those at the RNC convention. Hate to break it to you, but there was never a more elite group of intellectuals than Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton, Franklin and company. People who thought and debated profound ideals on a daily basis -- and disagreed vehemently on the proper role of goverment -- but then found a way to compromise for the good of all. And, by the way, very deliberately kept any mention of God out of the Constitution.

Posted by: Beth | September 5, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse


In 50 years of living on this planet, nothing changes. I'm still looking critically at two sides of a political spectrum ferreting out the truth that lies in between the lies of "so what" banter.

Meanwhile, there are millions of people taking up arms on either side, speaking loudly and forcefully as if they know.

If you have a bumper sticker on your car touting a politician - ANY politician - then not only do you by default not know carp, you're most likely an idiot to boot.

These blogs are an endless stream of regurgitators of talking points - both sides - putting virtually everyone in the realm of "often wrong, but never in doubt".

What I have discovered that is new is.... nobody cares. I once thought that if the veil came off and everyone realized how they are nothing but useful idiots in the career aspirations of severely flawed men and women, they would flip-out and like the cartoon suggests, look into the mirror and see the lolly-pop head and turn inward for truth and reject the people they've touted for so long.

In this dream, I have given WAY too much credit to human beings.

Now, many - most even - will say "So why are YOU right and we wrong? Don't you thing you're a bit arrogant?"

Well - I supposed you could see it that way. But don't expect me to apologize anytime soon that I elected to rise above, and seek the truth and I'm still waiting for you to catch up.

Sorry, but I can't live my life dumbed down despite how much you enjoy it.

Posted by: Alan Hopkins | September 5, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

It's sad how ignorant both sides can be - perhaps the issues are too complex for most voters to grasp. But its the Republicans who are particularly dishonest if they think America's paltry oil supply will have an impact on global oil prices. Same applies to championing Palin's "executive" experience, winning initially with 700 votes. LOL. President of my high school class got more votes than that.

Posted by: Mike | September 5, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

@Jen:

Keating 5. 5th from the bottom of his class at USNA. Reckless officer.

Bridge to Nowhere. Troopergate. Public Library. Seccessionist. Crazy church that believes Iraq was a call from God. Associations with Nazi sympathizers.

Need I go on?

Posted by: Andrew | September 5, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

In reading most of the other comments I see that most people are missing the point of what I belive the Republican Party is about. Do Americans want higher taxes? I know that I am already taxed to death. Do they want an untried individual as our leader in chief? In these hectic and dangerous times, I want someone who is known and has handled all kinds of diversity. Do they want bigger government telling us more of how to run our lives? Again I see big government leaning more and more over our shoulders -- look at health care and how we all have to go to "special doctors" on a "special list" to get healthy. Do they want someone who is charismatic -- I would hope that Clinton would have burned us all or someone who is solid to lead us forward? I for one was undecided until last night, and now I am firmly in the republican camp.

Posted by: sourthernborn | September 5, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Every time I buy something at a store or pay an insurance premium or buy gasoline there is a "redistribution of wealth." The moneyed forces behind the Republicans want such redistributions of wealth to occur, and for them to be ever more advantageous to the moneyed powers. They want any and all forms of consumer protection (or consumer power, and for that matter labor power) to be eliminated. They even want to change basic principles of law. The long-standing tradition has been that for any bound contract any ambiguity is interpreted to favor the weaker party. They want to eliminate even that, to give the stronger power the right (via legislation) to force an interpretation favorable to them on the weaker party. Well, sure, they want that - that's human nature. The evil is that under the Republicans they get it.

Posted by: hewhoasks | September 5, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Can my fellow American John Sidney McCain III tell me how is he going to cut our record debt which runs in 700 trillion dollars without increasing taxes?

Eight years ago we had a surplus in hundreds of billions of dollars. Now we are in debt for at least two decades Thanks to George Bush II.

McCain is a temperamental old man who cant even pick a decent VP. Its time for McCain to retire from politics and start counting his homes.

Posted by: LoLMcCain-ism | September 5, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Amazing that the media doesn't get it. Obama talks about life and war like he read it in a book. People are looking for character not the emptiness of Obama and his Greek Temple for the Gods made out of styrafoam. Obama without a single piece of significant legislation and without anything but very last minute international experience is too inexperienced for the Presidency. Then there are the Jew Haters he has associated with for years but all of a sudden realizes just who and what they are in the middle of an election. But most telling was the way he put down the average Joe and jane in San Francisco. Last time I looked America beloinged to the Amereican people. It is those people who Obama mocks. We know that his wife, a well trained attorney, meant every word she said when she said that for the First time in her life she was proud to be an American. We got it. The hypocricy of Obama crediting his church for his redemption from drugs and purposeless in life is not lost on us. But the media driven by a leftist agenda that they can't even put a fig leaf over wants Obama to win. When Palin said that she was here for us not the media my heart soared. Obama reminds me of a british Prime Minister in the 1930's. All he would need to do is have a nice chat with Hitler and everything would be just fine. We live in a dangerous world. The Russian tanks are rolling again. Iran is about to go nuclear and the Arabs have us by the gonads. McCain can take that on. Obama, in the style of Marie Attoinette, said that the problem is that oil prices went up too fast. A slow bankruptcy would have been OK?

Posted by: David | September 5, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

To those looking for specifics, those will come with the debates, they don't come at convention speeches. Is McCain a gifted orator? No. But in the end, who cares? The world is full of great speakers. Palin and Obama are great speakers.

You can pretty much see his message and what it is going to be though. Key issues I think you'll see in the debates and speeches the next few weeks and how they will be spun form the GOP side:

1. He (and Palin) are NOT status quo Republicans. She went against her party. He votes against his party in the Senate 20% of the time. He takes stances on beliefs not party lines. Message will be: our change vs. Dems proposed change, but both parties offer major change. (To those that say another Bush-Cheney that is as stupid as saying Obama is the same as Clinton.)

2. Leadership. That Obama's experience is being compared to Palin's will be played up big time. The Pres candiate being measured against a VP candidate as McCain stands alone above them.

3. Terror and Foreign policy. Reality is we are in two wars right now, Al Qaeda and Iraq. Reality is Iran and North Korea are potentially huge threats that must be mitigated. China is a sleeping giant. Don't dismiss this as "fear tactics" because this is simply reality of today.

4. Economy. Socialism vs. Capitalism really. Tax hikes, bigger gov, more beuracracy vs. tax cuts, smaller gov, more personal responsibility. The election could very well come down to whose specific plans you believe in the most. Do you believe a socialistic approach is better or a capitalistic approach is better. Dems will try to tie McCain to Bush policies. McCain will try to show he is not and point to democratic congress failures. Should be a fun one!

5. Energy. In reality, both sides are pretty close on this one. There is even a compromise bill in the house right now. Both sides are going to HAVE to support BOITH drilling and alternative. This should end up as a non-issue unless the Dems stick to "no drilling." Would be a huge mistake.

What was most interesting, little if any mention of the far right. Clear that McCain is positioning himself towards the moderates and independents, and I excpect he will use Palin on two key fronts: religious right and hometown Americana.

Posted by: Mark | September 5, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

The McCain mob cleverly silenced Fellow Republican Ron Paul, but that could bite back in the long run.

Posted by: Tired | September 5, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

"Taxed to death"?

We're going to have to either pay back all the debt that amassed under Bush or at least to continue paying the interest on it. How do we do that? By levying taxes. The blame for the taxes to pay the massive Bush debt must be assigned to the Republicans.

That debt has also had the effect of weakening the dollar. Part of the increase in gasoline prices in the US is due to that weakening. Again, the blame is on the Republicans.

(You want to say the Democrats in Congress must share the blame? Say it. The issue is the debt. ALL who helped create it had the power to avoid creating it - and didn't.)

Posted by: hewhoasks | September 5, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

"Eight years ago we had a surplus in hundreds of billions of dollars. Now we are in debt for at least two decades Thanks to George Bush II."

Whatever you think of Bush - good, bad, ugly or all three - Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein have as much to do with the huge debt as anything.

Posted by: Mark | September 5, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Unemployment skyrocketed to 6.1% today. McCain's kind of change is already happening. After all, he does think the fundamentals of the economy are great!

Posted by: Alex | September 5, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I cannot believe the opinions that I read on this site. I understand the editor is a partisan hack but the vitriol among the opinions is very concerning. There are so many angry comments about the republican party. The problem with the republican party is that too many in the party act like democrats. The corruption and abuse in the democratic party is pervasive but everyone expects it from the democrats and the media covers it up for them. All of you hacks are going to regret it some day when you finally see the democratic party for what it is, a bunch of communist socialists. If things continue in the direction that the left would lead us, the democratic party elites will no longer need the blind minions that support them now and you are all going to end up without any freedom. If Obambi gets elected who are you going to blame when the nukes go off in multiple cities? The handouts that you are begging for will not be there and the government will not do didly squat for you.

Posted by: Houston | September 5, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

McCain's speech with its promise of prosperity and reform sounded like he was running for president of the Coronado Island Home owners association. In that gated community there is no knowledge, or concern, for yesterday's 350 point drop in the stock market or the latest 6.1 percent unemployment rate.
McCain displays himself as a totally rude robot when he thanks GWB, without mentioning him, then thanks GHWB 41 for being gracious. Somehow he skips over that other guy ... what's his name ... Oh yeah, CLINTON-42, who brought eight years of peace, prosperity, and hope to America.
Shame on McCain. Oh yeah, it's Kerry like payback time as the press will start to look into how McCain "broke" in captivity and was less of a hero than he would like us to know.

Posted by: MzF | September 5, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

When I looked at the people at the convention I saw a very rich looking very white crowd. I am also white, but I also know that America is made up of all kinds of people and very few rich. I am wondering exactly who do the Republicans represent. A very small sad percentage of America. I also used to be Republican, but I woke up.

Posted by: Average Guy | September 5, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

McSame need to quit with the POW crap. He wasn't tortured, Bush says so! We do the same thing to people that the VC did to McCane, so what is his problem? And why did they put up that picture of his house during the speech?

Posted by: Boston | September 5, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

What caught my attention was the number of mispellings on the signs of Republican conventioneers. Mispelling "maverick" is embarrassing, but then how bad is it to mispell "America"? It reinforced the negative images I have of Republicans.

Posted by: Chris | September 5, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

"Unlike others on this blog, I’m glad to see McCain articulate a vision of returning to a basic Republican Platform of limited government and is willing to take on the challenge of reforming a party that has lost its way."

The current President ran against Washington, D.C. too.

Take a look. Take a good look.

Posted by: hewhoasks | September 5, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Time to gather Gerson and the Neocons Radicals and Advotaces and their aimless Voters..

Send them to the ME to fight for their Beliefs..

The rest of us will be at home waiting for them to return dead or alive and with a new brain.

I wonder how fast the War on the ME will last if they had to put their own blood and guts on the line.

I wonder how long it would take for them to try and use a little Diplomacy and common sense US Capitalism..

ISA

Posted by: ISA Gallego | September 5, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Mark: "Whatever you think of Bush - good, bad, ugly or all three - Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein have as much to do with the huge debt as anything."

It's how and what we did with other people's money. Lately it has been squandered by decree.

Posted by: Tired | September 5, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Can I sue my Republican Pary for failure to select a viable choice for our ticket!

This is shameful. Instead of learning that the Bush/Rove/Cheney legacy would severely backlash us, we forged ahead down the same mistaken path.

NOW LOOK WHO WILL BE PRESIDENT!

Now I know how the Democrats felt for 8 years. Well, I already knew that for the last 7 1/2 years myself, who am I kidding.

WE SUCK AT THIS!

We won't see a Republican in office for another 2 decades now.

THE END!

Posted by: MADDAMMIT | September 5, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

"We're going to have to either pay back all the debt that amassed under Bush or at least to continue paying the interest on it. How do we do that? By levying taxes. The blame for the taxes to pay the massive Bush debt must be assigned to the Republicans"

That's fine, but don't necessarily assign it to McCain and his proposed policies until you study them in detail vs. Obama's in detail.

How do you do it without raising taxes? You cut spending and you stimulate the economy which brings in more tax money even at current or lower rates.

Or you can levy higher taxes and stagnate the economy and re-distribute it via government programs.

And lots of ways within and in-between those.

Posted by: Mark | September 5, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

"Whatever you think of Bush - good, bad, ugly or all three - Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein have as much to do with the huge debt as anything."


Good lumping together.

Posted by: hewhoasks | September 5, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

We've had a good run here in America. Too bad we became spoiled and depenedent upon government. Too bad we want one side or another to make laws to control the other person's behavior, while not changing our own first. Too bad that all people working in government are concerned about job security, which means making bigger government and making more people dependent upon the government.

If you think Obama or McCain are going to change that, you're living in delusion. Neither side is going "change" anything.

Our country has lasted a good while. Too bad we are spoiled and unwilling to change ourselves.

Please take away some more of my freedom and make a law to force Americans to appreciate what we have...LOL

Posted by: Osama Biden | September 5, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

If Obambi gets elected who are you going to blame when the nukes go off in multiple cities? The handouts that you are begging for will not be there and the government will not do didly squat for you.

Posted by: Houston | September 5, 2008 10:00 AM


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IF we live to see it.
We are going to BLAME YOU NEOCONS because you started this unnecessary crap in the first place..

YET you will not fight your own wars..

Means you are a COWARD..

ISA


Posted by: ISA Gallego | September 5, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

A lot of real wide eyed liberals here-- but what did I expect--

As for Mr Alex O -- Samuel Maverick was a very storied Texas politician and land owner who may have gambled I am sure -- but was far from a confidence man-- you may want to read up before calling people con men-- the word "maverick" became part of our language because of his refusal to brand his livestock-- he thought it was cruel -- (Mmmm an early PETA person?????)

Posted by: chuxway | September 5, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Did you guys see Obama on O'Reilly's show right before McCain's speech?

I am so relieved that Obama will not take the military option off the table regarding Iran, and has said that he believes that McCain's surge has succeeded beyond his wildest dreams. I'm serious! He really said that in his interview with Bill O'Reilly.

It kinda sounded like...

...John McCain.

I can't imagine that Obama was just trying to change his story because of his audience, though... because that is not hopey changefulness. That is politics as usual. I mean, you'd expect that coming from a Chicago-grown Democrat, but...

oh, wait, never mind.

Posted by: Reality Check | September 5, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

This is a culture war. We have the Republicans representing middle class white America and the Democrats representing the rest. Interestingly, most Republicans are also left brain dominant. So, to kill without empathy makes sense. Very sad. But I fear, the majority will win again and the world is going freak if that happens.
Lets define leadership: motivating people to act. What better person can do this than Obama? What is McCain going to do, hire Blackwater to be his mercinaries and threaten all of us? Humans have a long way to go to understand themselves. Left brain dominance will kill us all. So, put on ya'lls cowboy hats, bring out the hockey sticks and flood the arena with oil. When it's all over, you can bet there will be nothing left. But it's not too late, we just need to get the lazy ellite and struggling poor to get out and vote.

Posted by: Vinny | September 5, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

RE; @Jen:

Keating 5. 5th from the bottom of his class at USNA. Reckless officer.

Bridge to Nowhere. Troopergate. Public Library. Seccessionist. Crazy church that believes Iraq was a call from God. Associations with Nazi sympathizers.

Need I go on?

Posted by: Andrew | September 5, 2008 9:52 AM
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Zero-bama, Wright, Ayers, Farrakhan, REZKO... ACORN community organizing.
Chicago thugs and slimeballs.
Oh! Joe Biden the lowest in his class...plagerism...Obama plagerism.
Zero-bama ashamed of his white grandma and his black grandma...neither were at his convention, neither have been with him anywhere in public....his poor family sitting over in Kenya poor as dirt...but Zero-bama is going to help the poor he dosn't even care about his own family so what makes you think he's going to care about you or this country?

Posted by: Jen | September 5, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

HEY GERSON..
How come you went to this format..?
Getting crushed with too much reality??

ISA

Posted by: ISA Gallego | September 5, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

"How do you do it without raising taxes? You cut spending and you stimulate the economy which brings in more tax money even at current or lower rates."

That's Keynesian, except Keynes was honest enough to admit that deficit spending as a stimulus was deficit spending.

"Trickle down" is just a sham way to justify cutting taxes preferentially to favor those in the higher bracket. Bush did it. The economy is worse now. As was predicted by rational people. It's "Big Lie" to keep beating the "trickle down" drum.

Posted by: hewhoasks | September 5, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

but Zero-bama is going to help the poor he dosn't even care about his own family so what makes you think he's going to care about you or this country?

Posted by: Jen | September 5, 2008 10:08 AM
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Jen sounds like you have not been getting laid enough..I means screwed enough by your Neocons..

ISA

Posted by: ISA Gallego | September 5, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

"I am wondering exactly who do the Republicans represent."

If you are looking other than the obvious and the zealots:

Small, medium and large business owners. Folks who believe in less government and lower taxes. Middle class. Parents that want a say in which schools their kids attend.

You might be surprised! ;-)

Though I would think most of America falls across both parties ideologies really. Pick those important to you!

Posted by: Mark | September 5, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

"This is a culture war. We have the Republicans representing middle class white America and the Democrats representing the rest.This is a culture war. We have the Republicans representing middle class white America and the Democrats representing the rest."

Perhaps the Republicans would have us believe that they are for the middle class, but they actually favor those at the very top. The Republicans actually are very much a minority party. They pander for support (to overcome their minority status) using wedge issues - and they know it. If we'd pay attention we'd all know it. Too many are too easily hooked by wedge issues.

It's the difference between "wealth" and "prosperity." Wealth is money at the top. "Prosperity" is money at all levels. The Republicans favor wealth.

Posted by: hewhoasks | September 5, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

but Zero-bama is going to help the poor he dosn't even care about his own family so what makes you think he's going to care about you or this country?

Posted by: Jen | September 5, 2008 10:08 AM
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Jen sounds like you have not been getting laid enough..I means screwed enough by your Neocons..

ISA

Posted by: ISA Gallego | September 5, 2008 10:10 AM
____________________________----if you are offering your tiny wennie it declined

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

It is time for the Dems, and anyone who gives a hoot to unleash fury on the GOP Machine and at the same time relentlessly deliver its message of change. We must say what we want to do for the country (over and over), but we also have to hit hard. We are not safer, we have never been in more danger economically, socially, militarily in the past 100 years. John McCain may be a true war hero, but military hero's often make horrible political leaders (i.e. Grant), and McCain shows every sign of this problem. Further he and Palin only seem capable of making plainly false and disturbing attacks in an all-out game for power. I used to respect McCain as a man of principle. Now I simply see him as the rest of the recent GOP establishment. Power-hungry crooks hell-bent on control, not a governance of and by the people.

Posted by: Sean B | September 5, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Republican voters feel that with their party they will all share in a position of global power. Well, they actually feel that they will benefit financially from the association. Republicanism is all about "I Got Mine"

Democratic voters feel America is a better place when we all work for those higher ideals of what the greatest nation on earth really should/could be. Well, they really feel they will benefit financially from the association. Democraticism is all about "I Got Yours".

In the end, it's all about the money and how we slice it or share it. The rest be damned.

Posted by: Obvious | September 5, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

This board is pathetic!

This is the greatest country in the world. Where else can you go to a place with nothing on your back but a shirt and achieve any lifestyle and social class position you want.

"Waaa, waaaa - McCain is too tough" or "Oooo, Palin must be a b!#@#! since she's so agressive." These comments come from hands open give me charity and I'm entitled whimps.

McCain isn't the most dynamic speaker, but his message has greatness. With Palin as VP, he has convinced me more than ever to support their ticket.

Lastly, I am tired of all this "GLOBAL WARMING" crud. The earth has be warming for the last 10,000 years! And it is continuing that phase of its life. Without Global warming, no one would be inhabiting any far northern or far southern reaches of this Earth. We would all be living on the equator. Don't blame man for GW, blame your egotistical bleeding heart liberals. Guess what, I bet there will be another ice age in 10,000 years. Conserving resources is one thing, but Global Warming is not controlled by man by any means. Only fools would believe the GW story. Just a bunch of primadonnas figuring out how to divert money to their own greedy liberal bank accounts.

Posted by: Johnny S. | September 5, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Jen sounds like you have not been getting laid enough..I means screwed enough by your Neocons..

ISA

Posted by: ISA Gallego | September 5, 2008 10:10 AM
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Wow, such a little tiny brain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

McCain's speech was tongue in cheek talk. What does he mean by taking on Union bosses, they are the only ones that guarantee a decent living wage for working Americans, does he mean back to less than minimum wage for workers?
How about that comment about "government assistance for the unemployed was from the 1950's and he is going to change that". Does that mean no more unemployment compensation till you can find a better job? So will we be pretty much screwed if we lose our jobs?
A lot of the things he was saying like losing jobs, rising deficit, bigger government, higher gas, inflation, housing market, compensation and government handouts for big oil, etc, etc, etc. It made me think that he was talking about Bush and the current administration until he blurts Obama. What the hay are they talking about?!
How can someone change something when they won't admit that it's their own parties fault!?

I love this country the U.S.A. and that we should strive to be a role model for the rest of the world to look up to and not hate us.
It scares me when I see people at a rally chanting U.S.A., U.S.A., U.S.A., and stand up and fight, stand up and fight, stand up and fight, fight, fight, fight over and over again...

Made it very unclear that he was clear about how he was going to change America!

Posted by: Redneck4Obama | September 5, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Some people can read a teleprompter and some can't. Obama is a grate reader and not to bad of speaker when somebody else writes his speeches. Why won't he have a town hall type debate? Because he dose not what to answer question with out his speech makers writing the answer for him.

Posted by: fnpr | September 5, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

What has happened to this country. I was raised you take care of yourself and your family. Everyone thinks the govt. has endless money, when are you going to realize it's your money they are taking! I'm not rich and I don't want anyone else to take care of me. Just let me keep what I make. Wake up Obama is going to destroy our free enterprise system. There won't be small business people and that is what keeps this country going. Look back to the Carter years gas lines, hugh taxes! That is what Obama will do. Oh and if you don't want to drill here STOP driving your car!
If we only had another Ronald Reagan!

Posted by: Pam | September 5, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

"That's Keynesian, except Keynes was honest enough to admit that deficit spending as a stimulus was deficit spending.

"Trickle down" is just a sham way to justify cutting taxes preferentially to favor those in the higher bracket. Bush did it. The economy is worse now. As was predicted by rational people. It's "Big Lie" to keep beating the "trickle down" drum."

Who said pure trickle down or deficeit spending? I said budget cuts to go along with reduced (or non-increased).

Over-simplified, the money supply is basicaly a zero-sum game and simply how you distribute it. I'd rather it be distributed via small businesses than via taxes and government redistribution.

Any extra tax you place on me takes away disposable income that I put into the economy. Hold onto my car a few years longer, going out to eat less, contributing less to charities, etc. Instead of that money going directly to folks, that money now gets to folks after chugging through some kind of government chain. Typically inefficient.

Yes, way over simplified but we are gonna have to disagree on this one.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

George H.W. Bush was a seasoned expert with a stellar public service resume, a triumphant war time leader who'd brought together a global coaltion to fight Gulf War I after Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait.

He'd spent eight year's as Vice President in the Reagan administration quietly going about the less glamourous job of affirming Ameircan policy goals across the globe.

A serious and deliberative man, he loathed the facile glibness of mass media campigning and the coy remarks so embraced by the press.

He was pilloried by the media as a tongue twisted nerd.

Bill Clinton was expert, without peer in the public spotlight. Craved it, adored it. He was charmingly glib, sincere, funny, quick with a clever phrase.

He had no foreign experience what-so-ever save protesting, in front of cameras, against his country in a communist country. He proved himself to be a world leading knave, a cad, a craven narcissist, a liar, a cheater, essentially a duplicitous vapor who morphed into whatever a given moment's instant need demanded.

The press swooned for him and women, in the press corps, pined to service him.

John McCain is clumsy in the public spotlight, he is not facile or glib. His demeanor is serious and probative. He's feisty and deliberative in a web based world that rewards a wafer thin client base with a micro sec attention span.

I never expected McCain to be an inspiring orator. I expected him to fumble along trying to be telegenic and allowing us to see him feel uncomfortable and fake by trying to do so. I'm sure George H.W. Bush knows what his distress feels like.

Barack Hussein Obama is Clinton redux with none of Bill Clinton's experience. He's like an i-Bill Nano. The least that could be said about Clinton was that he'd at least DONE something. He'd been chief executive, governor, of Arkansas.

What has Obama actually DONE, other than write TWO memoirs before he's 50 and has LEAD nothing except failed spurts of community activism, ( i.e.: spending other people's money ).

The SOLE asset Obama brings to the table is his ability to cajole like minded narcissists into FEELING good, about themselves.

OF COURSE the global whack-jobs want to talk to him. They LOVE 'talking' to Americans, especially American's who's esteem is completely wrapped up in have "nice" reflected back at them.

Having a likeable president would be nice.

Having a president who's got sand and substance over nice is critical. We do not need another Dorian Gray in the White House.

We need a team with grit, with sand, with a clear understanding of our place in the world, and who know how to look across the wire at hostiles, and take their measure, and win.

We need a team who understand that having graduated from Kindergarten, the time to talk with hostiles is right after you've got them subdued and locked in a cage.

Both McCain and Palin have done that. McCain the military and the U.S. Senate and Palin by taking on and taking apart a coorupt establishment and oil lobby in her home state, in her own party.

Joe Biden has never done it and Barack Hussein Obama has never once even tried.
Worse, Barrack is so deliberately naive, he doesn't even know why that failure is so dangerous.

Neither do his delusional supporters.

Posted by: China Rider | September 5, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

CHANGE YOU WILL PAY FOR:

HIGER TAXES FOR ALL
MORE FOREIGN OIL. OUR OIL IS ONLY FOR LOOKS
GIVE AMERICA TO THE EUROPEANS
ENSLAVE EVERYONE TO SOCIALISM
ALL WOMEN GET ME COFFEE, GOT THAT "SWEETIE"
LET IRAN NUKE ISREAL

Posted by: Obama | September 5, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

I admire the way that Palin carries on even though the Governor's residence in Alaska was damaged by fire. It burned all the way down to the axles.

Posted by: chopin224 | September 5, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

What caught my attention was the number of mispellings on the signs of Republican conventioneers. Mispelling "maverick" is embarrassing, but then how bad is it to mispell "America"? It reinforced the negative images I have of Republicans.

Posted by: Chris | September 5, 2008 10:02 AM
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And who other than Obama thinks there are 57 States and he has 2 more to go to.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I would just like to say this idea that putting a woman, any woman, on a national ticket is a sign of change is amusing at best and absurd at worst. There is no such thing as "women." There are humans whose gender is female. They are individuals, not a monolithic group marching in lockstep thinking and speaking in one collective voice. I find it insulting anytime it is assumed there is a "Women's" vote. There isn't. And the fact that so many commentators and pundits glom us all together is not only mindbogglingly ignorant... it is proof that sexism is alive and well. Let me be clear. Sarah Palin does not represent me. She does not speak for me. Neither did Hilary. I personally have transformed the burning anger that flared up in me when I awoke to the thousands of years of female oppression I was born into. Many other women have not. Perhaps many are just starting to feel it after Hilary's campaign. However, anger is just a stage in liberation, a part of finding your own voice, but it is not goal. It is not true strength. Staying in a stooped over posture of victimization is another stage in the process, but it is a hole I have been able to climb out of, eventually, when I realized it is not a place I wanted to get comfortable in. Females in this country form a chorus of voices, each in her own stage of life and experience and thinking. Sadly this is a chorus that is still muted by the idea that we are all alike. "Women." So as long as females of any party or persuasion play the gender card, individual female voices will not heard or respected. The chorus will be silenced by mobists and collectivists who will still claim to know what the angry little victim, aka, "Women," want and what is best for them. A woman on a national party ticket? Yes. Change? I don't think so. That will not happen until we can examine a woman's character, background, ideas and goals the same way we do for men. Unless that happens, there will not be equality in the sense that individual females have the same authority to speak and be listened to as men without someone claiming to be an authority on or speaker for "Women" silencing individual female voices. So, contrary to all the hoopla about John McCain being an agent of change because he put a woman on the ticket, with the subtext being that "Women" will all be swooning in elation and voting for him,I as an person (who happens to be female) am insulted and dismayed that this is what the Republican party is selling as change.

Posted by: Sophia | September 5, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

"Somehow he skips over that other guy ... what's his name ... Oh yeah, CLINTON-42, who brought eight years of peace, prosperity, and hope to America."

Peace? Clinton used military force more often than Bush has. And we still have troops deployed in the Balkans.

Prosperity? I didn't see it.

Hope? Had none in the 90's.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

These comments are great! Obama's laptop crusaders are so scared that they are posing as Republicans as if "we" are unhappy with our choice of the next president and the first woman VP in America. Thanks Obamians for all you do, this election won't be for you.

Posted by: Poseur | September 5, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

We're doomed. John McCain blew it choosing Sarah Palin.

Time to throw in the towel this election.

Posted by: DIE HARD REPUBLICAN | September 5, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

While I'm underwhelmed by either choice, I am truly scared that the population of this country might actually vote a wholly unqualified and unready youngster as their president simply because:

Hate/Bush + Bush/Republican = Hate Republican = Vote Democrat

There really should be a standard test administered to get a voting card.

I wonder if Obama would even pass it.

Posted by: Pete Gitta | September 5, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Nobody has experience being president EXCEPT for the president (and we know how the last 8 years have been, thank you, Bush).
If you're down with how the last 8 went down, vote McSame. It's all right.
I just don't understand how being a prisoner of war makes him any more qualified than Barack.
And I'm sorry and don't mean to offend, but if he was locked up so long, his brain may be scrambled or he's having flashbacks, thinking we're still in the 70s and the economy is all right.
It's 2008, people!

OBAMA for PRES

Posted by: mclin | September 5, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

The democrats would be very critical of Jesus Christ as they are of John McCain and Sarah Palin not to mention his fathers view of same sex marriage. John McCain has a proven record of his service to this country. He is also human and you are most likely going to disagree with something he has said or done. But he is out there serving and trying to do good things and has been for many years. He also has changed his views on some things due to changing times which is a good thing because it shows he can learn from his mistakes. I like that better than some one who thinks they know everything and does not consider what that will affect us down the road. Change is not good if that means appointing supreme court justices to legislate from the bench in order to circumvent the constitution. Telling us what we should drive and keep air in our tires is best left up to us. Sending us in to a depression to satisfy environmentalist by not using our own energy assets is not good either. New technologies are not quite ready and I don't want to suffer from green extremism. John McCain,s policies look like a better alternative to me. Lets hope that there more people that want to stand for something more than homosexuality,freedom from religion,and redistribution of wealth to people that did not have the will to earn it

Posted by: Richard | September 5, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

There were only 2 things wrong with McSame's speech, the style and the content.

The issue is not "changing" DC, it is having a responsible leader withe the interests of the people at heart. Not just the wealthy, but all of the people. McSame isn't the man for that.

I'd like to see some meaningful cabinet picks, not just another bunch of puppeteers.

Posted by: The Rodentman | September 5, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Palin is not intelligent enough to be VP....maybe a p0rn star, but definitely not a VP

Posted by: SarahPalinLOLZ | September 5, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

So Obama will raise taxes huh? Just how does McCain intend to come up with the billions for Iraq? The Democrats are called tax and spend but the Republicans are the borrow and spend party. That means paying significant interest in the future. If you like Bush, you will love McCain.

Posted by: chopin224 | September 5, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I am really tired of reading about Republicans and their guns. They are scared. Scared of themselves, the people around them and the rest of the world. The simple answer to this is DNA imbalance. They are left brain dominant. They don't understand the true nature of balance. They understand what their eyes and ears tell them. So, they will go on being scared and kill as may as possible. A true leader is one that can motivate people to act. Presidents are not the only decision makers in the country. They have a host of people around them helping them to decide our fate. It's the presidents job to motivate based on these decisions. The Republicans have done a wonderful job of this using fear. And now the world has turned it's back on the US. We need a President like Obama that can move people with words based on decisions by him and our Congress. The right decisions. The ones that accept people as they are and deter them from wanting to kill us. They want to kill us because we have become killers ourselves.........Stop the fear mongering..... and stop the killing.....Vote for someone that has a balanced brain........Empathy and Facts go hand in hand. Facts alone are not enough. There are consequnces. One needs to see the bigger picture, not just a conservative one.

Posted by: Tim | September 5, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

McCain blew it when he picked the Sarah Palin. I wouldn't trust her to run my local 7-Eleven let alone this county.


What amazes me is how absolutely terrified republicans are that they have not allowed the Vice Presidential canidate of the United States of American to answer a single question from a reporter after one whole week. Not one!!!!!

Republicans know that if someone asks her a typical question she wouldn't have a clues how to answer.

How stupid do you have to be to answer "I don't even know what the Vice-President does."

Let me tell you Sarah since you are so clueless........the vice president presides over the senate. There, now you know the answer. Let's see if you can get it right next time.

Posted by: TRUE AMERICAN | September 5, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I for one, cannot vote for someone who is "friendly" with a terrorist who as recently and 6 years ago was unapologetic and said he didn't do enough bombing and who has a campaign fundraiser who's "charity" was funneling money to terrorist groups and was shut down by the US Govt for these activities.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Jared, you would make a good slave for the Republican Party. Just what they want the working class to become for their filthy rich get more help from the government and keep getting richer while the middle class, ("you know the ones that don't own 7 house or make at least $5 million dollars a year") keep getting poorer and fend for themselves way of thinking buddies want,("like a dictatorship or a kingdom with it's slaves") America to become.
Save America/Save the Planet!!! Obama/Biden----all the way!!!

Redneck4Obama

Posted by: Redneck4Obama | September 5, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Where are the African Americans, Hispanics Americans, Asian Americans, and Indians... why is his whole audience white?

Posted by: Creamsykle | September 5, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Cream,

I was wondering the SAME thing!!!

That is not what American looks like (the RNC)

Posted by: minorities in the house | September 5, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Sara Palin thinks that the Iraq war is a mission from god... This war is not "Gods Will" its big oil and arms merchants will. No wonder she thinks this way, here is a quote from the pastor of her church. This is the same kind of talk that convinces Muslim children to become suicide bombers. Hey Sara! Jesus does not advocate war.
"What you see in a terrorist -- that's called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what's going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. ... We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. ... Jesus called us to die. You're worried about getting hurt? He's called us to die. Listen, you know we can't even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say "war mode.""

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

When are the republicans going to let Sarah Palin answer a question from a reporter? It's not like she's running for public office or anything.........

Posted by: COMMON SENSE | September 5, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I fell asleep 5 min into that speach, what did I miss? Let me guess, more war stories from grandpa?

Posted by: Rick | September 5, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

When are republicans going to let Sarah Palin answer questions from reporters? It's not like she's running for public office or anything......

Posted by: COMMON SENSE | September 5, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

So Richard doesn't want the American citizens to be from free religion. It has started, the march to a state religion. I knew it was coming to this. The religious right already views any one other than themselves as 2nd class citizens. There is no tyranny like a religious tyranny.

Posted by: chopin224 | September 5, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I sent the McCain campaign $100 last night if they would stop that boring-ass speech....

Posted by: ucan'thandlethetruth | September 5, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

wow. I loved the speech. It was honest. Now, I'm not voting for either corporate owned party entity - but, if I were, I'd trust McCain's honest appraisal of everything done wrong before I'd trust Obama's blah-blah-blah. Besides,a vote for Obama is a vote for Pelosi and Co., and they have done NOTHING for us.

I think McCain made it very clear that he's not Bush. But, he is still a republican.

If you don't live in a swing state - why would you waste your vote on either candidate? We need any of the third party candidates to reach the 10-15% level so we can break the two party system.

If you vote for Obama or McCain, you are lying to yourself that you want change. Neither will change much.

Posted by: NoneoftheAbove | September 5, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I lost my Brother in the 911 attacks. How dare these republicans show that painful footage on national TV for their political gains! They should DROP DEAD!!!

Posted by: Vinnie | September 5, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Obama = Terrorist Sympathizer

Posted by: Obamanation | September 5, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I like John and Sarah but I can't help but wonder if at least 5% of the population would be much better suited to be President and Vice President than either one of them.

They said she knows energy but does she really? I doubt it. John made one concession to the middle class - raise the tax credit for children from 3,500 to 7,000 but its a promise he won't be able to deliver on with a federal budget in red ink.

He has no plan to introduce fiscal discipline into the american consumer's day to day life. Once you take taxes off the table how do you get people to use less oil on a day to day basis?

He said nothing about our infrastructure - neither repairing the existing nor creating the new transportation systems based on more efficient electricity that will take us out of a head to head confrontation with China in the next 4 years.

But for once I agree with Michael - Mike you finally made an accurate assessment - the speech was awful - no plan or strategy. McCain and Palin are just saying join us and go to war (because if we don't change our energy policies that's where this thing is headed.)

Posted by: Jack | September 5, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I wonder what Dan Quayle has to say about Sarah Palin? Did the republicans forget their own party line from 1988? Now Sarah is the future of the religious right? Hypocrites all!

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Sonya | September 5, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

that dud is so old, he looked and spoke like a corpse.

The real referendum is on Palin, because we all know there is no way he'll make it 4 more years.

Poor bastard.

Posted by: ohno | September 5, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Hey Choppen that's freedom from religion. Religious freedom means that you can be a Muslim,Catholic,or any other belief of your choice. It also means that you don't have to hide in the closet to practice it so you don't offend anyone.

Posted by: Richard | September 5, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

obamanation is a parrot. follow the lemurs into the sea you theocrat.


Theocracy is for zealots.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Obama: "What's wrong mister terrorist and how can I help?"

Terrorist: "BOOM"

Posted by: Obamanation | September 5, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

who gives a crap about teleprompters?

on either side, seriously?

There must be children on this blog.

Who cares!

Posted by: who cares | September 5, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Duhhhhhh.

I'm a parrot.

Duhhhh.

Follow the leaders.

Duhhhhh.

Hail Sarah!

Posted by: Obamanation | September 5, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

It is ironic... because I used to think Obama was a lightweight on policy issues.

But after this convention, I think Obama shows a much better grasp of policy, world events, and the needs of the public. And McCain comes across as someone who is trying to sell a cult of personality.

I really thought it was going to be the other way around.

I also didn't like how he called for an end to partisan rancor... even as he took digs at his opponent.

Posted by: brive | September 5, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

To China Reader,
My goodness you like to hear yourself write. It's obvious you are a loyalist. I, on the other hand am a patriot, and often times a patriot is opposite to a blind loyalist, like in this case. If this was 1740 in the "The Colonies", you would be blindly loyal to King George. You have the right, but as they said back then, "Don't tread on Me". When one really examines the issues, us patriots today have more to be upset about than the patriots of the American Revolution. Remember the Boston Tea Party - largely because of taxation without representation. How do you think my granddaughter must feel being born into a sea of debt. 90% created when a Bush was in the white house. Was she represented? What about the Kinder - Gentler America, the 1,000 points of light, and the uniter, not divider promises by recent past GOP (loyalist) liars? I can't believe what a load of cr** McCain shoveled on us, Who in their right mind can believe a friggen word of the going to end partisan actions in Washington bit. I'm constantly amazed how many seemingly intelligent people like you China Reader, are blind loyalist. Try being a patriot sometime. Not the kind of patriot in the loyalist constitution busting Patriot Act either. A true, thinking patriot, not a blind loyalist to long failed dreams. There is still room for people like you on the good side, you just need a bit of de-brain washing.

Posted by: James Patterson | September 5, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Just mimicking you guys "Anonymous". Shows how foolish you guys sound doesn't it.

Posted by: Obamanation | September 5, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

This is the most interesting and unusual religious perspective I have seen on the choice of Palin, yet. If you are concerned about religious things, I highly recommend checking it out:

http://www.newsflavor.com/Opinions/McCain-Hijacks-Christianity-Via-Palin.240929

Posted by: LaRae | September 5, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I was not impressed with McCain's speech at all. McCain's speech was not inspiring, just the usual pandering to get votes.
I swear if he beats his chest one more time about his POW experience, I think I will turn off my TV until the elections done! I know guys who were POWS, and none of them think they should be president and some of think McCain shouldn't be president.
His choice for VP was just to get votes from women and the far right.
If McCain wanted a woman on his ticket there were much better qualified and experienced GOP women. He picked a woman who is so extreme in her views that many mainstream Christians find her positions really poisonous. The people that I talked to at my church think she's a bit nuts.
Considering his age, he really needed to pick a VP who could step in to be president without having to wonder as Palin did "what does the vice president do."
Mercy me! Down here in Texas -- we say "that dog don't hunt."
McCain & Palin are totally the worst choice for this country.
Sad, really sad for the GOP. The GOP could have done much better.

Posted by: spd | September 5, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

First son bypasses college for the war front. Second child knocked up and dropped out of high school. Sarah attended 5 schools in 6 years to complete a 4 year undergraduate degree. Fought for library closures. Fired ex-inlaws.
....and then had the nerve to mock education by saying Obama is a "post-graduate organizer"....
Since when do we give standing ovations to someone who mocks academic achievement? Since when do we give standing ovations to someone who parades a pregnant teenager, with no wedding date set with only four months left to go? Since when do we give standing ovations to promising to elect judges to take away the reproductive rights of women and call it progress? Since when do we give standing ovations to a person who demeaned community organizers who work to make their communities better?
I will not reward the White House to trailor trash wrapped up in lipstick.

Posted by: Sonya | September 5, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

To Drilldeepandquick and all the other mindless followers who says---drill baby drill. drill baby drill. drill baby drill. drill baby drill. drill baby drill. drill baby drill. drill baby drill. drill baby drill. drill baby drill. drill baby drill. drill baby drill. drill baby drill.

T.BOONE PICKENS SAYS-----

"This is one emergency we can't drill our way out of."
"This is one emergency we can't drill our way out of."
"This is one emergency we can't drill our way out of."
"This is one emergency we can't drill our way out of."
"This is one emergency we can't drill our way out of."
"This is one emergency we can't drill our way out of."
"This is one emergency we can't drill our way out of."
"This is one emergency we can't drill our way out of."
"This is one emergency we can't drill our way out of."
"This is one emergency we can't drill our way out of."

T.BOONE PICKENS IS RIGHT.

Posted by: McMansions | September 5, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

I find it interesting that a confessed womanizer who is now married to one of the women he had an affair with while married to her predecessor choses a former model as a running MATE....The future Mrs. McCain????

Posted by: EW | September 5, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

McCain + Palin = McPain

Posted by: srikanth | September 5, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Listen everyone.

Palin and McCain are the final solution to all you libs out there! Once we get them in office, we're gonna round all you'll up, put you on trains and cart you off to the fires of hell where all you abortion having moselm lovers deserve to BURN!

Sarah is the sword that smites the wicked, and she will herald the second coming of the lord himself!

Glory be to god!

Posted by: Obamanation | September 5, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

******First son bypasses college for the war front. Second child knocked up and dropped out of high school. Sarah attended 5 schools in 6 years to complete a 4 year undergraduate degree. Fought for library closures. Fired ex-inlaws.
....and then had the nerve to mock education by saying Obama is a "post-graduate organizer"....
Since when do we give standing ovations to someone who mocks academic achievement? Since when do we give standing ovations to someone who parades a pregnant teenager, with no wedding date set with only four months left to go? Since when do we give standing ovations to promising to elect judges to take away the reproductive rights of women and call it progress? Since when do we give standing ovations to a person who demeaned community organizers who work to make their communities better?
I will not reward the White House to trailor trash wrapped up in lipstick.****

You'r just jealous 'cause she's hot.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

The speach was great, like the man, like the country. Only America haters see otherwise.

Posted by: BarakObama | September 5, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I am an independent voter, and after Mccain and Palin's speeches, I will have to give them a second look. The debates will decide this for the independent voters like myself

Posted by: D.Wisner | September 5, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I love hearing the lap-dog press echo the Democrat assertions that McCain's speech didn't include any 'specifics' of policies he would pursue.

Last night, McCain's boring-until-the-last-10-minutes speech gave more policy specifics (I know, because I darn near fell asleep) than Obama has given in the past 20 months.

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Dear Jared:

please read about what a "Run on the Dollar" is and how it will start and the options available to stop it from happening.

Then review what role deficits play in the process as opposed to surpluses. Then check the current federal defict total and research who we owe the money too and then think about which one of the those countries would benefit by our demise. And then think about how easy it would be for one of those countries to start the process.

And then consider that we import a large portion of our food and that oil could be switched to the EURO when the dollar collapes and that dollars would have to be converted to EUROS to purchase oil allowing gasoline to 20 dollars a gallon or higher.

If we continue to run deficits the chances of an eventual run on the dollar - 100%.

The economists don't know when but the rules of simple arithmetic cannot be repealed just because republicans don't like the consequences.

Jared should I continue?

So Jared you have been told.

Posted by: Jack | September 5, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Let's see if any Obama supporters are willing to take this challenge: bullet point on this board every specific policy Biden and Obama included in their speeches last week. I'll let you combine their two speeches, and compare to McCain's one.

And no, a lofty promise to 'end dependence on foreign oil in 10 years' doesn't count as a policy. A 'policy' tells us how you intend to accomplish your promise.

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

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Steve Boston re Obama:
"What's truly sad and scary is that we are on the verge of electing the most unqualified President in history. The in the tank Obamuppet media is on a dedicated
mission to place our savior Barack in the oval office."

Yes, the media along with blacks, die-hard democrats, and youngsters who think Obama is cool. Hopefully integrity will prevail
over ignorance.

Posted by: Billw | September 5, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

With all the problems surrounding GOP, with majority of the country rejecting the party,I believe that Reps must do something to reform the party and change the way that American people look at GOP. I think that McCain is capable of doing so as he is a war hero, a patriot and a man of integrity. On the other hand, it is very disturbing to watch the Democratic Party choosing their candidate because he will be more likely to beat the Reps and McCain, and not because he will be the best candidate for America. I am not Hilary's supporter, but for crying out loud people, she would be 100 times more qualified for the job than Obama. It is not even about his lock of experience which he has none, but it is about his ties to people like Bill Ayers & Bernardine Dohrn that are quite frightening and make his patriotism extremely questionable.His 20 year friendship with Jeremiah Wright suggests nothing else but racism and his ties to crooked Chicago politicians and contributors strongly contradict his loudly promoted principles and ethics.
Considering all these facts and taking in consideration that both candidates may be locking some qualifications for this position, we should focus on someone who we know is a true patriot and great American, rather on someone who was introduced to politics by a liberal ex-terrorist Bill Ayers. God bless America!

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 5, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Jay - you must be on drugs. The Republicans have been in office for 8 years and congress for 6 years. They have done zero for the American people except the rich few. McSame/Palin more of the same crap that has made our economy a crisis and the unmployment at 6% the highest ever. The only change that this country needs is coming from President Obama. Enough of the no brainer losers in office. President Obama/Biden will lift this country and it's people from dispair.

Posted by: ob08 | September 5, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

By the way, just to throw one more log on the who-has-more-experience-Obama-or-Palin fire, while Obama was busy giving speeches about ending dependence on foreign energy, Palin was busy starting work on a $40 billion natural gas pipeline that will help lower our heating costs here in the Lower 48.

I know speeches count to Democrats as actions, but us folks who don't live within 100 miles of either coast aren't as easily impressed. I'll take a big round piece of metal as evidence of experience over a perfectly functioning teleprompter any day.

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"I will not reward the White House to trailor trash wrapped up in lipstick."

You probably voted for straight out of the trailer park Clinton though.

"T.BOONE PICKENS IS RIGHT."

Indeed he is, but he also says drill, drill, drill. We need to convert all of our public transportation vehicles (this means busses, trucks, public safety vehicles, trains...etc.) to natural gas (which the US has one of the largest supplies in the world) as a stop gap...of course this means more drilling. Then in 50 years when technology has perfected renewable sources we "might" be free from oil.

Posted by: Obamanation | September 5, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Not to worry. When the debates get underway, McCain's poll numbers will go up 1 point for every Obama "uh...uh..uh" and 10 points for every European country he places in South America.

On the other hand, I would probably vote for Reagan's rotting corpse over both of them if it were on the ticket.

Posted by: 57stateobama | September 5, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Oh, Sarah Palin is HOT,

well I'm sold!!!

I DO WHAT THE VOICES IN MY PANTS TELL ME.
UNGA--BUNGA

SCREW AMERICA!!!

Just jok'n, you don't actually think I'm that darn dumb do ya's.

My cowboy hat ain't that dang tight that it's cutting off blood flow to my head yet....

Redneck4Obama

Posted by: Redneck4Obama | September 5, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

When I see comments like;

Obama = Terrorist Sympathiser

it scares me and most other non-americans. For once you have a clear choice between a candidate that will continue America's isolation in the world and its crusade against former allies who have fallen out of favour and a man who offers genuine hope, not just for Americans of all creed and colour but for all citizens of the world.

America has the chance to regain the respect it deserves throughout the world for all the good things it has done and inspired in days gone by. It has the chance to confine the experiences over the past 8 years to history and to put itself back where it should belong.

In Obama, you are very lucky to have a man of intelligence, energy and most importantly humility.

You need him to win and we need him to win.

Please don't revert to the inward politics of the past 8 years by re-electing another purveyor of Bush-like rhetoric. It doesn't serve anyone.

Elect a man that can be a leader for everyone...! A true forward-thinking visionary.

Posted by: Marty from Ireland | September 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

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Jack at 11:29:

You are correct, and the question is why does neither McCain or Obama take this and go with it. I fear the country is in for a "rude awakening" before too long. We've lived on loans from China and the world about as long as we can.

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Posted by: Billw | September 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

McCain’s night, like Palin’s night was filled with his torturous 5.5 year long POW interrogations. Every time I hear about this, it reminds me of my concern about McCain’s temperament and judgment. He always seems right on the edge where any real stress could push him into snap decisions. The last thing America needs is McCain’s hands on our military and nuclear weapons harboring memories of his POW days. He’s frightening!

Posted by: ted | September 5, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Nice try "Anonymous"

Posted by: Obamanation | September 5, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I'm 64 and have voted Republican since Nixon, because I hoped he'd get us out of Vietnam, which he finally did. I've never seen the country so divided as today -- as evidenced by some of these posts. A lot of people are really vicious. The Republican spin machine that made me think Bush II would help turn things around is more vitriolic than ever. At least Barack Obama practices Christian values (helping the poor, end the Iraq war, higher minimum wage, healthcare for all, etc.) that the holier-than-thou religious right at the Republican convention keep saying they support. The Republican cafeteria serves "used food" today. I'm a born again Christian myself, and believe if Jesus was on the planet today, he'd vote for Obama. That's what I'm doing for the first time ever -- voting Democratic. Hope are are "former" Republicans out there who can relate to where I'm coming from. I woke up, and hope you can too!

Posted by: RHinGA | September 5, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

OHHHHHH
I'M SO SMART!

LOOK WHAT I WROTE!!!!
GOD DAMNED IDIOTS!
ALL OF YOU!

OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASHOLES,
EVERYONE HAS ONE AND IT STINKS!
What is the point of writing your opinion.
Your thoughts will not change anyones mind.
Don't be an idiot!
Stop wasting time!
Your opinion means nothing!
It will not change anyones mind!
YOU HAVE NO POINT YOU STUPID DOLTS

Posted by: fools | September 5, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Somebody forwarded me a picture of Obama using the phone sitting in a chair talking to one of his followers. The only problem was that the cord end was by his ear and the other end by his mouth. One can only hope that he can run the country better than he can use the phone.

Posted by: Richard | September 5, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Amusing to hear some on here like "David" say they don't believe someone who has been a US Senator 26 years can bring change to Washington. Fair enough.

But then I guess you have to ask this question: why would Obama, the prophet and preacher of change, turn to someone who has been in Washington longer than McCain to be HIS running mate?

Doesn't that say a little something about Obama's decision making? "America, I want to bring change to Washington. But I have so much vision and foresight, if anything were to happen to me the guy I want 'a heartbeat away' is someone who will be perfectly content to leave things exactly the way they are today."

I don't know about you, but that doesn't seem to me to dovetail with the otherwise inspiring message-of-change....

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

OHHHHHH!!!!
I'M SO SMART!

LOOK WHAT I WROTE!!!!
GOD DAMNED IDIOTS!
ALL OF YOU!

OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASHOLES,
EVERYONE HAS ONE AND IT STINKS!
What is the point of writing your opinion.
Your thoughts will not change anyones mind.
Don't be an idiot!
Stop wasting time!
Your opinion means nothing!
It will not change anyones mind!
YOU HAVE NO POINT YOU STUPID DOLTS

Posted by: Nut Job | September 5, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

The reason the democratically controlled congress has such a low approval rating is;we elected these people to end the wars,fix the economy,fix healthcare and education and the environment and EMPEACH BUSH & CO.What they have done is increase war spending (in terms of lives as well as money),let the enviroment and economy and education as well as infrastructure further slide into decay.Their main focus has been to find out who fired some lawyers from their cushy federal jobs.Oh they have also been raising funds to get their party into the White House.And all of their HARD work helps us how?The Republicans aren't the only ones ruining our country.There are other parties out there.If you don't like BO or JMc vote for an alternative candidate.What happens if neither party gets a majority?For those of you who think voting for a third (or fourth )party candidate that can't possibly win is losing your vote I say ...our vote is the only voice the politicians hear.Denying the two parties a clear win is possibly the only way we can have real change in our country.If you didn't know there are other candidates, check out the website www.2008electionprocon.org And no,I am not a paid blogger for anyone.

Posted by: SherryGT | September 5, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

OHHHHHH!

I'M SO SMART!

LOOK WHAT I WROTE!!!!

GOD DAMNED IDIOTS!

ALL OF YOU!

OPINIONS ARE LIKE buttHOLES,

EVERYONE HAS ONE AND IT STINKS!


What is the point of writing your opinion?

Your thoughts will not change anyones mind.

Don't be an idiot!

Stop wasting time!

Your opinion means nothing!

It will not change anyones mind!

Posted by: Superman | September 5, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Poor Obama. His sexist liberal media buddies are at a loss at what to do to help there "chosen one".

A woman came to town and stole their little boy thunder. The sexist liberal hate machine is in the corner crying and wimpering very loud as always, but now noone cares or listens.

A real woman is in town, sexist little boys are not wanted.

Posted by: julia | September 5, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse


YOUR THOUGHTS WILL NOT CHANGE ANYONES MIND!


WRITING YOUR OPINION IS POINTLESS

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Posted by: Burt | September 5, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

The thought of the Democratic Party controlling both houses of Congress and the Executive Branch should scars us all into action.

Posted by: Walter Festoon | September 5, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

The person who longed for Ronald Reagan has forgotten the horrors of that era. As one who was so trickled down upon by ill-conceived Reaganomics that I was out of work for over 4 years, starved nearly to death, and lost all I had, as even fast food jobs were nearly non-existent, I'm not that eager to repeat that experience. It was not Utopia. That too was the era in which the American oil industry was sold out to the Middle-East as Reagan bumbled naively along with the first Bush's hand up his butt operating him as a puppet. All the while, war was promoted in Central America in a translucent endeavor to gain property for a new canal zone. Now we have the 2nd Bush empire getting rich from the Hunt Group's oil ventures in Northern Iraq and Halliburton's government contracts as our jobs go away, health care is out of reach for many, education costs skyrocket, and we pay $4.00 a gallon for gas.As if 9/11 had anything to do with it all, Bush had stated his intent to go to war with Iraq before he even took office. The Republi-Con takes away from America's true strenght; its average people, and feeds its elite with ill-gotten wealth. We do need CHANGE....(I'm not so sure the alternatives are all that much better though. Time will tell.) We need the free America we were always promised with universal healthcare available for all and free public college education available to all who want it. The government should be there for us, not against us.......

Posted by: EW | September 5, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

The person who longed for Ronald Reagan has forgotten the horrors of that era. As one who was so trickled down upon by ill-conceived Reaganomics that I was out of work for over 4 years, starved nearly to death, and lost all I had, as even fast food jobs were nearly non-existent, I'm not that eager to repeat that experience. It was not Utopia. That too was the era in which the American oil industry was sold out to the Middle-East as Reagan bumbled naively along with the first Bush's hand up his butt operating him as a puppet. All the while, war was promoted in Central America in a translucent endeavor to gain property for a new canal zone. Now we have the 2nd Bush empire getting rich from the Hunt Group's oil ventures in Northern Iraq and Halliburton's government contracts as our jobs go away, health care is out of reach for many, education costs skyrocket, and we pay $4.00 a gallon for gas.As if 9/11 had anything to do with it all, Bush had stated his intent to go to war with Iraq before he even took office. The Republi-Con takes away from America's true strenght; its average people, and feeds its elite with ill-gotten wealth. We do need CHANGE....(I'm not so sure the alternatives are all that much better though. Time will tell.) We need the free America we were always promised with universal healthcare available for all and free public college education available to all who want it. The government should be there for us, not against us.......

Posted by: EW | September 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Obama will save the world! He told me if I vote for him there will be 1000 years of peace and prosperity for all. He said all of my wants and needs will be paid for by people who make more money than me because he will steal the money that they have worked so hard for and give it to me because I don't want to work for it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Burt

Maybe no one will change anyone's mind, but why do you have to be like that, dude?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

The choice of a powerful woman for VP who has more experience in governance that NObama has left NObama's campaign powerless and shows the grave mistake Barack made not choosing Hillary Clinton for VP, choosing instead an old Washington politician, an by doing so negating the flag of change.

Hillary supporters who are still scared by the mistreatment and attacks of the liberal media who shamelessly destroyed Hillary's presidential bid are now resigned to put our country first and vote for the republican ticket to elect a president that is qualified and has the experience to deal with all the complexed problems our country is facing and also to demonstrate that a woman can handle successfully any job including being the commander in chief.

Hillary supporters have no other choice that to choose our country first and elect a a qualified president and a woman in the white house!

Country First! McCain/Palin!

Posted by: Manolete | September 5, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

McCain's speech was tongue in cheek talk. What does he mean by taking on Union bosses, they are the only ones that guarantee a decent living wage for working Americans, does he mean back to less than minimum wage for workers?
How about that comment about "government assistance for the unemployed was from the 1950's and he is going to change that". Does that mean no more unemployment compensation till you can find a better job? So will we be pretty much screwed if we lose our jobs?
A lot of the things he was saying like losing jobs, rising deficit, bigger government, higher gas, inflation, housing market, compensation and government handouts for big oil, etc, etc, etc. It made me think that he was talking about Bush and the current administration until he blurts Obama. What the hay are they talking about?!
How can someone change something when they won't admit that it's their own parties fault!?

I love this country the U.S.A. and that we should strive to be a role model for the rest of the world to look up to and not hate us.
It scares me when I see people at a rally chanting U.S.A., U.S.A., U.S.A., and stand up and fight, stand up and fight, stand up and fight, fight, fight, fight over and over again...

Made it very unclear that he was clear about how he was going to change America!

Redneck4Obama

Posted by: Redneck4Obama | September 5, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

McCain's speech was tongue in cheek talk. What does he mean by taking on Union bosses, they are the only ones that guarantee a decent living wage for working Americans, does he mean back to less than minimum wage for workers?
How about that comment about "government assistance for the unemployed was from the 1950's and he is going to change that". Does that mean no more unemployment compensation till you can find a better job? So will we be pretty much screwed if we lose our jobs?
A lot of the things he was saying like losing jobs, rising deficit, bigger government, higher gas, inflation, housing market, compensation and government handouts for big oil, etc, etc, etc. It made me think that he was talking about Bush and the current administration until he blurts Obama. What the hay are they talking about?!
How can someone change something when they won't admit that it's their own parties fault!?

I love this country the U.S.A. and that we should strive to be a role model for the rest of the world to look up to and not hate us.
It scares me when I see people at a rally chanting U.S.A., U.S.A., U.S.A., and stand up and fight, stand up and fight, stand up and fight, fight, fight, fight over and over again...

Made it very unclear that he was clear about how he was going to change America!

Redneck4Obama

Posted by: Redneck4Obama | September 5, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

He is 72. How fast do you expect him to speak?

Posted by: Sam | September 5, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin states:

“”it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or even a reform, not even in the State Senate.””

The truth is quite the opposite and can be accessed here:

http://thomas.loc.gov/

Barack has been a very active legislator since joining the US Senate. He has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become law.

He appears to have been a part in one way or another of 570 bills that are at various stages of the legislative process.

The targets of these 570 bills are wide ranging: from increasing funds for veterans housing and healthcare, restricting tax havens abroad, supporting NATO’s invitation to Georgia, promoting forward thinking domestic energy uses such as coal to liquid, increased fuel economy for cars, and one that attempts to promote clarity to the legislative process by banning gifts from lobbyists and by restricting access to the House floor by former members turned lobbyists.

Posted by: truth | September 5, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

"Any extra tax you place on me takes away disposable income that I put into the economy. Hold onto my car a few years longer, going out to eat less, contributing less to charities, etc. Instead of that money going directly to folks, that money now gets to folks after chugging through some kind of government chain. Typically inefficient."

That is only the effect on the middle and lower class. Obama is for cutting their taxes MUCH more than McCain. The only people who will see their taxes rise are those making >$250k/year. I'm sure they can still afford new cars...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Paul,
I just saw a poll this morning that said that 58% of people loved Palin's speech, 30% liked it, and only 12% did not like it. That means you and I are in the vast minority in not liking her speech.
Either we are missing something, the poll was missing something, or Americans are getting even dumber.

Posted by: anon | September 5, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I can't figure out why some people want to bring up the Keating 5. The Keating 5 was 4 Democrats and McCain and McCain was cleared of any wrong doing by the then Democratically controlled congress. In fact McCain's experience with that episode is what had formed his views on ethics reform today.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse


LIBERAL = SEXIST


You nasty little libs just can't help yourself. Palin is more qualified than Obama by miles but truth and a liberal will never meet. So you just keep up with the sexist double standards and vile attacks on her family.

Why do you think Hillary isn't coming to your defense? Because she felt the sting of 'sweetie' and she will never forgive you.

The light is shining on your blatant liberal sexism and it isn't pretty.

Posted by: julia | September 5, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Ron E:
"I can't figure out why some people want to bring up the Keating 5. "

The assh-le Obama supporters can't find dirt on McCain, so their devious little minds manufacture some.


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Posted by: Jack The Ripper | September 5, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

The breathtaking cynicism and incompetence of the choice to put Palin on the ticket has sealed McCain's fate. Her snide condescending speech - full of lies - served to reinforce the notion that McCain has completely capitulated to the Rove/Delay slash and burn politics of the recent past. There is no honor in that. And no matter what he says, that is now his record.

What does Palin bring to the ticket? Creationism in the public schools? Censorship of the local library? Please. This woman is so out of touch with mainstream America it is laughable. McCain will learn this in the coming months.

McCain went to the political gutter this summer. He can try to climb out with his rhetoric, but the stench will stick to him until the grave. Sad. And pathetic.

HAHAHA, DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS

Posted by: Paul | September 5, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse


julia:
"Palin is more qualified than Obama by miles but truth and a liberal will never meet."

Not only is the Obama unqualified, he is unfit. He is supported by blacks, die-hard democrats, and the young who think he is hip and cool.

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Posted by: Billw | September 5, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Jack, but do they really want to go there?

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA SUPPORTERS

Reading your ignorant and vile posts here, it is clear why you support Obama. His background consists of dealing with people like you, along with terrorists and racists.

Posted by: Jack The Ripper | September 5, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

"Poor Obama. His sexist liberal media buddies are at a loss at what to do to help there "chosen one".

A woman came to town and stole their little boy thunder. The sexist liberal hate machine is in the corner crying and wimpering very loud as always, but now noone cares or listens.

A real woman is in town, sexist little boys are not wanted."


Umm, okay...

Obama supports women's rights. He didn't pick Clinton due to her negative campaigning, not her gender. He is married to his FIRST wife and has two beautiful DAUGHTERS.

But, Obama MUST be a sexist...

McCain abandoned his handicapped first wife for a hot, young, wealthy one. Now he is pandering to those too myopic to see through the false "sexist" accusations against Obama.

"Real women" are now against women's rights???

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Could it be that you're disturbed that McCain called for an end to "partisan rancor" when you've made a living off partisan rancor? McCain's call was exactly 24 hours late (as usual for him) after Giuliani and Palin's hate speeches.

137 days till the end of the Bush administration.

Posted by: CardFan | September 5, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I watched this whole show for the last 2 weeks.
And I have followed intensely the run up over the last year +.

Also have a moderately educated view of History: interest + university.

Stepping back and looking at the whole view best I can lacking the omniscience that one would need to have the right belief.

My opinion and my belief is that::
Obama and Biden are clearly the superior candidates for the positions being pursued. This is a matter of so many obvious characteristics they posses that listing them would be a book in itself.

Basically what we have with these two is intelligence, appropriate self-control, and the ability to respond with mature and thoughtful judgment to important situation.s Also what goes along with this is the ability to recognize what’s important, and approaching these situation with some depth of mind and spirit.

The numbers are indisputably apparent. But I’ll play this littlem approximation game - Something like an Olympic scoring template:
Obama-9.5
Biden-8.2
McCain-6.9
Palin- 3.2

However knowing the racism and manifold other prejudices of this countries population the winners may well not be the actual winners.

I’m kind of an expert on this subject having grown up in the ethnic neighborhoods of Philadelphia.in the 50s, 60s

After that I lived in rural Oregon in the 70s- lumber country.

Since then rural Pa.

So I am not hopeful, but maybe the young people will pull us out.

By the way I am a non-practicing Catholic with 14 years of catholic education.
Ethnic Irish/Italian.
Daniel S

Posted by: Daniel S. | September 5, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

It is such a hood wink to call a man "moral" McCain cheated on a diaabled wife to run around with a rich chick so he could be financed into office, so much for better for worse for richer or poorer, till death do we part, those are his christan vows, so if you lie to your family, then you are simply a lier, and accoording to his own beliefs there is a nice bold lettering in the Bible on those who goes to the lake of fire LIERS

So he is on the way, and he is going to try to take us all with him.

You can't erease the fact that his beautiful model wife got messed up, became disabled, so what does he really think about the disabled, well look what he did to he own wife, that will tell you.

He is stealing the ideal of change well frankly what else can he do, he is a lier we know for sure, so now a thief, maybe stealing words is not againt the Law, oh wait it is, I have seem many lawsuits for stealing Ideals.

Frankly we are in a grave situation, we can hope that Obama will take this country in a good direction, lol which acutally is backwards, and you know stepping back just is not so bad, bringing back the power of the working people, our governmnet had been put that wedge in deep.

But if McCain is elected, well we will be at war oh wait the Iraq people were never at war with us, so I can more correctly say, invading countries, for years to come, and not just your young men but your young women will be drafted into unwanted wars and mostly likely killed.

And whom will those killed be, well all the poor kids, cause the rich kids will be in college, they will make that an exception, all in college are excused.

So one easy way for the Rich to rid the poor is WAR.

Why do you think college is so expensive, well darlings, it is to keep the poor out.
At one time it was free, so most those old farts, got education off the taxpayers back. Like the government, they send people to college with certain college programs, but here is the thing, as working for the DON department of the navy most whom can access that program have to be "approved" so you know how that goes.

I am not taking about the GI bill I am taking about your average white collar governemt employee.


There was a meeting to boast one white guy who got his PHD well how nice, the meeting to bring all the workers to see like he was some GOD, yet who paid for this?

You did, you can't send your own child to college, but your taxes pay for government employee to go to college, bet you didn't know that.

So all these government folks and there are thousands and thousands, get their education off your tax dollars, and being the select who gets to go to college, well you wonder why we never "change"

So first we need to stop letting them educate theirselfs with our tax dollars.

If you think I am lying well it is easy to check, they have education programs, the only problem with it is when the government has them, you are paying, very sad isn't it, the governent will send there employees to college, and only the "approved" and you got to pay, and pay and pay..

So what to do what to do.

Seems that we know what we get with if we have PTSD brain damage (Post trauma stress disorder) people running our country.


I don't know what others think but I do not want my grandaughter sent to a Rich Mans war for oil, or riches.

Maybe if we got the riches, I don't know we can arm ourselfs with sticks and stones, and run around in our big ships and just start attacking, heck many countries with riches are in termoil since the UK let go of their territoryies, back in the 70's so they are ripe to invade.

But just remember Rome fell.

So I guess I will take my chance with Obama, heck he will only have 4 year so why not.

Just remember all this mess is the Republicans they try to say it is the democrates, which is a laugh, cause the democrates have only been in congress for a very short time, but it is a trick well planned let a few in then blame them, you know the old "fall guy"

What a crock of do do.


So the media will blind you NOT to think your own mind, let see Obama right now on msnbc 3 minutes and McCain for over 15 minutes live. What does that tell you.

So look open you mind, think for yourself and say has your family suffered the last 8 years or benified. Because when all else is said and done, it is just you, and yours. And what your needs and cares are maybe diffeerent then others.

But do you want your children dying in a rich mans war? Do you want more of it?

And don't listen to you kids they been video gamed war mongers to numb them from pain and the value of human life. Your the parent.

Palin's son want to run off to Iraq, well the more power to him, but if I am not wrong, we need to stop this horror. My son's company of 7, 3 are dead now, and one only got into the Army to support his girlfriend and new baby to do the right thing and well now he is dead. But that was not in the "News" those young kids dying is well expendable.

So we can't leave Middle Earth yet, we have to take charge, not fight take charge.

I want a new life, but they don't sell those, but hey they do raffel them with the Lotto.

That is what it has come down to for me, win the lotto and get a new life.

Peace, and plant something, a tree, a flower, veggies something give back.

I give lot of veggies I grow to my neighbors, heck why not I even took over some city alley land and grow corn and give it away. So look around can you plant and help.

Ok I am flaking, but hey I have PTSD too a lady VET so please excuse the errors in spelling, I got one eye open, no sleep.

And these are just my view based on what I read and heard and know,

Peace


Posted by: Free Thinker | September 5, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

"LIBERAL = SEXIST


You nasty little libs just can't help yourself. Palin is more qualified than Obama by miles but truth and a liberal will never meet. So you just keep up with the sexist double standards and vile attacks on her family.

Why do you think Hillary isn't coming to your defense? Because she felt the sting of 'sweetie' and she will never forgive you.

The light is shining on your blatant liberal sexism and it isn't pretty."


As usual, Republicans ask you to look the other way rather than investigate any of their claims. Don't you trust them and their judgment? Why would they lie?

It is the MEDIA that have been asking all of these questions. It is their RIGHT and their DUTY to do so. Some personal questions are bound to be asked. People want to know about our (Vice) Presidential candidates. Democrats do not control the media, sorry. Bill Clinton wouldn't have had such an embarrassing ordeal over his affair if that were true.

Obama and Biden have both come out and stated that they do not support attacks on family. Experience, voting records, and outstanding investigations are fair game, however...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin = rocky/bullwinkle

Posted by: the Monk | September 5, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

If you really want to find out what Obamma's thoughts are for change in the future then you need to read his books. He does not hide what he thinks in them and remember that he wrote them himself. Democrats might even find that what he wants to do is not so cool. If you are poor it sounds like a pretty good thing to take from the rich and give to the poor, that's called wealth redistribution. He does not see 100% tax rate to be a big problem as long it is distributed evenly and most socked away by the government for future investment. It has not been so long ago this was called communism. Just remember how the Russians did it, only the party leaders and others the party felt worthy did very well economically. I can't understand why so many people have a problem with rich people. If people are not allowed to be rich then you won't either. Just remember what shape the soviet union was in when it failed the people were half starved and they did not have any assets. You did not own a house not to mention seven of them,Cars, or anything else unless the party gave them to you. Is that what we want for our country ? Just get Obamma's books and read them for yourself and be sure to read them carefully.

Posted by: Richard | September 5, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I was sorry I did not get to see all your remarks on MSNBC last night. I did note you critized McCain for not laying out policies. The problem is the Republicans have nothing new just more of the same.

Posted by: bradcpa | September 5, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

"Obama and Biden have both come out and stated that they do not support attacks on family."

And then they send their surrogates out to do just that.....

Voting records?
Obama: McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time. (Even though the record does not support this)

What he doesn't tell you is Obama voted with Bush 90% of the time....

Truth is Bush doesn't get a vote, other than his Veto pen. So any legislation signed into Law by Bush that Obama voted for means he's voted with Bush right?

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain in 2008

Posted by: Gary | September 5, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

"Obama and Biden have both come out and stated that they do not support attacks on family."

"And then they send their surrogates out to do just that....."

This is straight out of the Moveon / Clinton / Carville playbook.....

Posted by: Country First | September 5, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

man...i wish McCain would be able to stand a win...are you sure he's got a strong heart?

Posted by: chinky | September 5, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

"And then they send their surrogates out to do just that....."


Liberals don't control the media. I forgot that fact seeking is a liberal vice that needs to be ended for us to progress as a civilization.

Republicans are the ones that use their surrogates for underhanded attacks. What about all the claims that Obama is a Muslim? Or a foreigner? Or a racist? Or a supporter of terrorists? Or going to give welfare to all minorities?

Way to point the finger...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"I can't understand why so many people have a problem with rich people."

Because the Democrats have brainwashed them in to believing that if someone is rich they must be evil. This is called class warfare. It is all a ploy to garnish votes. What the Democratic leadership doesn't explain to them is without the rich most of them wouldn't have jobs. If the rich don't make a profit, jobs are cut and raises not dolled out.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans are the ones that use their surrogates for underhanded attacks. What about all the claims that Obama is a Muslim? Or a foreigner? Or a racist? Or a supporter of terrorists? Or going to give welfare to all minorities?"

Actually it was Hillary's supporters that brought those up first.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

It was also Hillary and Joe Biden that said Obama is not qualified to be president..but McCain is..

Can't just take that back now..

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

If the GOP wants to change America for the better, lose the Evangelicals. The only way America can work is as a SECULAR nation. Worship as you please - in your place of worship - not in our public schools or courthouses. Creationism does not belong in schools. To even consider debating creationism as an alternative "theory" to Evolution in public schools is preposterous! A party and a nation that does not value science cannot survive in this century.

McCain's speech was surprising in its contrast with Palin's. McCain is a moderate. Perhaps McCain is not a great speaker, but it seems he actually wrote most of his own speech. He seemed almost reasonable, if uninspiring. This is why the MODERATES have to take back the Republican party. Give us more reasonable candidates, and not these right-wing nut jobs.

Most of the VP candidate’s speech was already written before Palin was even named. Once she was chosen, they tweaked it to suit her. It was straight out of the GOP playbook, full of sarcasm, trigger phrases, and lacking substance. Republicans used to call this “red meat” but these days it is more like candy – you get a big sugar rush and then you crash. It is political junk food. The red meat, the real substance, is on the Obama side.

McCain promotes his military service, but do not forget he was a POW in a horrible, futile, controversial war that we LOST. How does being a POW in an unjustified war we lost make a better President ? Especially when you do not concede that we should not have been in Iraq just as we should not have been in Vietnam. Bin Laden has been in hiding longer than McCain was a POW. Enough bluster - FIND HIM.

Lastly, think about China, Russia, and India. China is a billion plus people with growing military and economic might. China is lending us money to stay afloat during this terrible deficit. Even if we stop buying foreign oil today, China will continue to consume it, so the oil producing countries that hate us will continue to have a source of income as long as there is a demand for oil. Investing in solar and renewable energy (not nuclear) is the only way we can free the world from oil, and cut off the stream of dollars going to "countries that hate us". Russia is one of the world's leading oil producers, and Georgia is proof of how we need to be realistic about our relationship with Russia in the years to come. India, another billion + nation, is investing in Science, and they are taking jobs that our home-schooled Creationist kids are incapable of holding.

Between McCain and Obama, the choice is clear - Obama is the leader, McCain is not. The Democratic party is grounded in reality, with a clear vision of the future. The Republican party's vision is muddled, ignores the present, and has no future. The vision of the Republican party needs to change if it is going to truly help America. As long as you continue to make the Evangelicals your base, you will only alienate reasonable forward-thinking people, and you will run this country into the ground. Open your eyes to the world as it is today and the real challenges we face. Only then can you help America be great. Until then, get out of the way.

Posted by: ChangeTheGOP | September 5, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey I knew about the class warfare thing but was trying to get people to think with out using the same tired over used terms. The term I hope not to live through is social justice.

Posted by: Richard | September 5, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

How are the republicans going to fix what's wrong in washington?

They're the ones who have been running that show. How are they going to fix what McCain's predecessors have done wrong, without admitting that they did it wrong! McCain _is_ his predecessor.

I guess in the silly season you can't admit to your own mistakes, and we'll just have to trust that McCain really does know how the republicans have completely screwed up everything.

He's certainly not going to admit that his party is not only part of the problem, but *is* the problem.

Posted by: how | September 5, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Also some of you guy's need to look at the terms you use. You look kind of weak when you don't know the difference between a conservative and a moderate. A lot of scientist are considering the possibility of intelligent design because there seems to be problem with pure evolution.

Posted by: Richard | September 5, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

geez Richard, where have you been hiding your head?

Hardly any scientists are considering intelligent design, the percentage approaches zero.

You spend too much time listening to the preachers talk about science, something they obviously know nothing about. And neither do you.

Posted by: geez | September 5, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I agree it is the media's right and responsibility to investigate these candidates, ask the tough questions, and report back to us, the American people, on the sleez....errr, I mean 'news' that they unearth.

I look forward to reading all of their hard-hitting reports from Wilmington and the south side of Chicago in December after they all get back from Juneau & Wasilla....

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Guess I need to get on that Berkley mailing list to get the true facts.

Posted by: Richard | September 5, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Dear "ChangetheGOP":

I didn't have time to read your entire book, but I did catch this gem: "Between McCain and Obama, the choice is clear - Obama is the leader, McCain is not."

Could you fill us in: what has Obama led before? As far as I can tell he hasn't even chaired a Senate committee, much less led any sort of town, city, or state. Perhaps you have witnessed his leadership in action in some remote-as-of-yet-unknown role.

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

there are no true facts where humans are concerned. You don't have to listen the freaks on the other side to balance out the freaks on yours, just pay attention to the motives of people telling you these things. And take your head out once in a while, the world smells a lot better that way.

Posted by: geez | September 5, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

What is scary & depressing is, we might have atleast 4 such speeches viz. State of the Union addresses, if (God forbid) McCain is elected. His oratory is -0-. It comes handy when you address the international crowd like the U.N. Ofcourse McCain doesn't care for international relations. His motto is bomb, bomb, bomb...one place after an other. Ofcourse his pet pitbull with or without lipstick will grab her AK47 & march along.

Posted by: Saroja | September 5, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I was a strong supporter of Mccain and had high hopes for him being the next president. but after Palin and the joke of a convention I can't any longer vote for him.

I'm seeing this echoed in the circles I move in in my home town. My republican friends have started out supporting Palin as a pick and then, a few days after thinking it through, have turned the corner.

I now support Obama. And today me and a few friends will take the big step to contribute to his campaign.

Posted by: Disappointed | September 5, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Richard, point taken sir.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

When the investigative journalists at the Post get done asking Sarah about here views on intelligent design, could they call Obama and ask how his 20-plus years worshipping at the flagship church for black liberation theology shaped his views of the world?

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Ain't it wonderful? we get a creationist twerp on one side and whitey-owes-me on the other.

Someone up there said it first: can we have a do-over?

Posted by: twaint | September 5, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I watched the entire McCain speech. I did not expect to see a great orator, I expected to see an honest man who has given his best to the country he loves. And that is what I saw. And that is why I am voting for McCain.

Posted by: Cassandra Washington | September 5, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Dear "Disappointed":

You should run your posts over to the National Enquirer. There may be some readers over there who will actually believe your story of swinging from strong-McCain-supporter to donating-dollars-for-Obama because of Sarah Palin and the convention this week.

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I read in the WSJ that McCain's speechwriter holed up in his summer home in the forests of Maine for two months to come up with this snoozer. I say good job. Put me right to sleep.

Posted by: snooze | September 5, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

What makes me laugh is Obama is the Democrats second choice. We should be talking about Hillary vs. McCain and had she run a better campaign on the front end we would be.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

i was a staunch McCain support in 2000, I saw the dirty nasty tricks the bushies pulled on him and I was appalled!

How could they do that to this man?

Then McCain waltzed down to Jerry Falwell country and stuck his tongue up that freaks' azz. RIght in front of all of us!
Now he picks another religious fanatic for his VP. What happened to the "agents of intolerance" McCain? Did you really fall this for this crap or is it a simple sellout for votes?

I'll never vote for the democrats, but you can bet your filthy tongue I'm never going to vote for McCain again

Posted by: old days | September 5, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

"A lot of scientist are considering the possibility of intelligent design because there seems to be problem with pure evolution."

Wrong. Only scientists with strong religious beliefs even consider it a possibility. There is nothing "scientific" about intelligent design (thinly veiled code for "creationism"). Some unobservable, supreme being created everything from nothing. How could you possibly prove or disprove that? There is nothing to test. It is a philosophical concept, not a "scientific" theory...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

The concept of falsifiability is not something the creationists can understand. They can't understand the mechanisms and procedures of science, for them it's actually a competing religion, like Islam or Buddhism.

They have nothing in their life which can inform them on the difference.

It is a complete waste of time arguing with them about what science is and is not, because all they know is science isn't their religion.

Posted by: andr | September 5, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Now even Obama has fallen for debating his credentials vs Palin. Man, I can't wait to see who wins this presidential race between Obama and Palin. Oh wait...Palin isn't running for President.

And you thought McCain was out of his mind last Friday picking Palin. He has shrewdly pointed via the Palin pick just how wide the gap is between himself and the guy who will be standing at the other podium in the coming debates.

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Last weekend, two days after most of America heard the name "Sarah Palin" for the first time, John McLaughlin jokingly posed a scenario: McCain wins in November, and in 2012 at the age of 76 decides four years is enough. The 2012 election pits Hillary vs Sarah, who wins?

They all shared a jovial laugh. Wonder if they are still laughing...

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

"I look forward to reading all of their hard-hitting reports from Wilmington and the south side of Chicago in December after they all get back from Juneau & Wasilla...."

They've already had their way with Obama. Like everything else in life, Republicans demand preferential treatment...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

dbw I never thought McCain was out of his mind to select Palin for VP.

I guess I kind of thought he owed us better, but I'm quite sure he chose the person he wanted (or Karl Rove wanted) for reasons not related to his sanity.

How many independent votes do you think he lost because of this choice though? There are many of us who don't care at all for Obama, and won't vote him under any circumstance. But now, a creationist, a dominionist, a religious fanatic one drop of arsenic away from the presidency?

He lost my vote. I guess that's the balance of it. He gains votes in the bubba sector but loses some independents. Guess it's not possible to have both.

I think I'll just stay home on election day and get drunk.

Posted by: geez | September 5, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"They've already had their way with Obama. Like everything else in life, Republicans demand preferential treatment..."

Awesome. I must have missed all those investigative reports about Obama. Could you post links here to:
- all the stories published in major newspapers about his long-held beliefs in black liberation theology?

- any story by any reporter from the AP that asked about his part-time job as state senator and how that counts as more 'experience' than 8 years as a small town mayor?

- Also, I missed the story about how his two girls are products of affairs. Of course I made that up, but that hasn't stopped 'serious journalists' before from asking the question anyway.

Thanks for your help in finding all those fact-finding stories about Obama that I missed the past 12 months.

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"When the investigative journalists at the Post get done asking Sarah about here views on intelligent design, could they call Obama and ask how his 20-plus years worshipping at the flagship church for black liberation theology shaped his views of the world?"

Reverend Wright is hardly the most controversial preacher to walk this earth. Nonetheless, the press has already confronted Obama over this. He also HAS explained what he took away from the church and what he didn't. He does not have radical beliefs, unlike many evangelicals in this country.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

How is it the republicans can only see the dirt done to them by the democrats and the media, and can't see any of the very same dirt they're doing themselves?

There are a lot of folks out here you are sick and tired of both of you.

Why don't you find a mutual chute somewhere and blow it out.

Posted by: sickabothya | September 5, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Ok folks first of all, I AM AN OBAMA SUPPORTER!!!. Now that we have that out of the way let me say that i respect McCain and that chick he picked. I mean they had the balls to stand in front of millions and speak with dignity and prompters. What I dont get is what makes anyone think this guy will make it through 4 years? Im not trying to be mean, but hes old as hell, and scares me with how sick he looks some times. I am much more comfortable with Biden being next in line than Palin. What is it about experience that makes every one think John is the man? Look how much experience GW had??? HOWS THAT WORKIN OUT FOR THE GOOD OLE USA??? What I mean is, maybe its time to let the rookie bat!!!! HIT A HOMER!!!! OBAMA IN 08 BABY!!!

Posted by: Look where experince has gotten out country | September 5, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

After going unsold for months, the jet was put into the hands of Turbo North Aviation, an Anchorage aircraft broker, which put an asking price of $2.45 million on the nearly $2.7 million jet. It quickly sold to Alaska businessman Larry Reynolds for $2.1 million ($31,000 of which went to Turbo Aviation). Today the Westwind II jet spends its days ushering wealthy hunters around Alaska and Russia.

Posted by: Why 1/2 truths | September 5, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"They've already had their way with Obama. Like everything else in life, Republicans demand preferential treatment..."


Nope, just equal treatment.
"They" have barely scratched the surface of Obama's questionable past. His relationships with unsavory characters still goes un-investigated, how he was not affected when he sat in those pews for 20 years..gimme a break..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

EIGHT...

That's the number of times John McCain has managed to NOT EVEN VOTE on extending renewable energy tax credits this year:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/03/opinion/03friedman.html?scp=1&sq=mccain%20renewable%20enrgy%20tax%20credit&st=cse

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/05/news/economy/renewable_tax_credit/index.htm

You're going to fight for me, John McCain?

~Prisoner of (Your Republican) War

Posted by: PO (Your Republican) W | September 5, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Think about this: Mc Same has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peal This I know because i am a cancer survivor also , Now we have a Fundamentalist Christian with her finger close 2 the Nuclear trigger an the f undies get messages from god. Don't the other guys get messages from god also?? Well looks like the choice of a crusade or not WOW huh..just my afternoon thoughts>>>>

Posted by: Church Lady | September 5, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

The champion of renewable energy?

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00141

So you're going to fight for me, eh, Mr. McCain?

~Prisoner of (Your Republican) War

Posted by: PO (Your Republican) W | September 5, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

"Reverend Wright is hardly the most controversial preacher to walk this earth. Nonetheless, the press has already confronted Obama over this."

I guess you are right. If Sarah Palin was a 20-plus year member of the 700 club and Pat Robertson officiated her wedding, I'm sure the press would have just asked a few questions and it would have been over and done after a hastily-arranged press conference.

I'm sure we can all agree our unbiased media would have just let it go at that....

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama: responds to questions and accusations with honest and well thought out explanations.

Republicans: say it is unfair or sexist to ask questions or make accusations and refuse to answer any of them.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

To Ron E at 10:40am
You seem to take exception with my comment

"Somehow he skips over that other guy ... what's his name ... Oh yeah, CLINTON-42, who brought eight years of peace, prosperity, and hope to America."

Your response is kinda' stupid and ignorant so let me set you straight.

Ron E writes:
Peace? Clinton used military force more often than Bush has. And we still have troops deployed in the Balkans.
MzF responds:
Are you serious? We have spent close to a trillion dollars and have over 4100 dead US military with no end in sight. Clinton helped straighten out Kosovo with zero, nada, no, US military fatalities. Oh, and by the way, Clinton also helped bring peace to Ireland. We still have troops in Japan, Germany, and Cuba.

RonE writes:
Prosperity? I didn't see it.
MzF responds: During Clinton years DJ went from 2500 to 11000; During Bush DJ went from 11000 to 11000. Clint budget went from $300 billion deficit to $200 billion surplus; Bush budget $200 billion surplus to $500 billion deficit. Also during Bush/McCain Oil 20 to 150, gold 300 to 1000, and countless other disasters. America had some of its greatest prosperity during Clinton years.

Ron E writes:
Hope? Had none in the 90's.
MzF responds: Sorry, but there is no hope for idiots.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Could you and your family use $22,400?

http://www.alternet.org/story/97428/palin_helps_alaska_get_rich_off_oil_while_the_rest_of_the_country_suffers/

So... you're going to fight for us, eh, Sarah Palin?

~Prisoner of (Your Republican) War

Posted by: PO (Your Republican) W | September 5, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Do a little more research PO (Your Republican) W. You will find that Obama's voting record on that issue is only slightly better.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

MzF = keeping the dreamworld alive.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Ron E at 3.33pm

Good one

Posted by: MzF | September 5, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I think we should replace the word sycophant with "Gerson." Fewer syllables.

A poor delivered booring speech devoid of substance is not a "flop" according to Gerson. What would a "flop" be?

Posted by: mnjam | September 5, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I think we should replace the word sycophant with "Gerson." Fewer syllables.

A poor delivered booring speech devoid of substance is not a "flop" according to Gerson. What would a "flop" be?

Posted by: mnjam | September 5, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what you all are talking about. I thought it was a terrific speech. Very dignified, positive, inspiring, presidential.

IMHO, Obama's convention speech was hostile and self-important. He looked as if he had come to believe that he really is the messiah that his followers believe him to be. Palin's speech was cheerfully antagonistic, the political version of WWE pre-match rhetoric. Giuliani did the same, but was much better at it. (Giuliani would have been the better VP pick.) Tom Ridge tried, but his speech was just plain boring and was delivered with leaden timing.

Overall, the conventions leave me with the feeling that the Democratic Party is the party of hostility and self-righteous indignation. Obama may have disowned Jeremiah Wright, but the Wright attitude is common among the Democrats. (I'm also annoyed that they paste their posters on public property. Do they have so little respect for the rest of us that they think they have the right to deface public property or crash other people's conventions?) They cultivate an attitude of hostile victim-hood, and they're lashing out at an evil country. They remind me of angry teenage cadres of the Cultural Revolution. Scary. (Those Warhol-like posters of Obama just reinforce that impression.)

The Republican Party comes across as cheerfully optimistic. Their attacks on the Democrats were fierce, but done with humor and without so much anger. I think that some of their positions are as wrong as the Democrats, but they gave the impression that they would be much more fun to hang out with. At their convention, the Republican Party was a party.

I can't believe it. After the GWB administration, the Republicans still have a chance to win this election. The Democrats are throwing it away. Well, character is fate, they say. Only the haters want to hang with the haters.

Posted by: _kt_ | September 5, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

McCain's speech wasn't terrible, but as several commentators have pointed out he really didn't say anything that justifies his claim to be an agent of change. On the two major issues of the day, the war and the economy, his ideas are no different from those of Bush.

A number of conservative commentators have pointed out that their party seems to be in the same place as liberals were in 1980 -- their traditional ideas no longer address the problems the nation currently faces. We have foreign policy problems that can't be solved by invading another country, and we have domestic problems that can't be solved by relying on the free market. McCain seems to have nothing new to propose. So why do we want him?

Posted by: simon | September 5, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I am shocked at the lack of public outrage and media scrutiny over one of Rudy Giuliani’s statements concerning "Islamic Terrorism" at this week’s convention:

I imagine they believe it is politically incorrect to say it. I think they believe they will insult someone. Please tell me, who they are insulting if they say, “Islamic terrorism.” They are insulting terrorists!

Giuliani has just claimed that Islam is such an embarrassment as a religion that even terrorists would not want to be affiliated with it. How can we claim to be even a remotely tolerant society when 10,000 people in a convention applaud such a statement?

Posted by: Aaron Sacks | September 5, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Why does the Blog continue to support the Militant Gay Agenda?

Oh, I meant DNC Party Platform.

Posted by: Thelonemule | September 5, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

"McCain seems to have nothing new to propose. So why do we want him?"

Look at the alternative.....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous said: "Obama responds to questions and accusations with honest and well thought out explanations."

Obama said: "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania ....it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

I think Anonymous was correct about the 'honest' part, in that Obama gives his honest answer. Not sure how "well thought out" his answers are, though....

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

******THIS JUST IN*********

John McCain wonders out loud "WHAT HAVE I DONE"?!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-QevraCQUc

Posted by: dave | September 5, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Palin: I hate! You suck! Drill ANWR!
McCain: Why hate? We suck! Drill oceans!

Bad episode of Spy vs. Spy (MAD Magazine...)

Posted by: JayBen | September 5, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Although I am not an economics expert, I do rely on those who are to provide facts and information for me to base my judgement on. That's why I wonder why so few people listen when the historic facts are that for the last half century, 95% of all Americans prospered under Democratic administrations and that those same 95% of Americans did less as well under Republican adminstrations. Completely deregulated and unaccountable markets foster greed not prosperity.

Posted by: NMF | September 5, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Aaron said: "How can we claim to be even a remotely tolerant society when 10,000 people in a convention applaud such a statement?"

I just want to make sure I have a good understanding of liberals. To call Islamic terrorists, uhhhh, "Islamic terrorists", is hateful, demeaning, and intolerant.

But calling Sarah Palin an "Evangelical right-wing nut-job extremist" is tolerant and ok.

I think I see where you guys are coming from....

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic nominee for President is a walking, talking bowel movement.

Posted by: Thelonemule | September 5, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

As a life long Repubican, I am just disgusted by my party and by John McCain, the Maverick,selling us out to the highest bidder--The religous right wing!

If he didn't insist on selecting his choice for VP-(Lieberman)--then how in the heck is he going to run this country when he is bought and paid for by the extremists????

Posted by: KR | September 5, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Dear NMF:

Then by all means you should vote for Obama this fall. He and his party have the socialist views you can warmly embrace.

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Who do you want answering the White House phone in a security emergency at 3 in the morning: Obama or McCain?

Posted by: Janet | September 5, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

John McCain cheated on his first wife with his now current wife, Cindy, because she wasn't as attractive as he remembered. She suffered a terrible car accident while he was a POW and was changed when he returned. (By the way, so was he).Please tell me, how has this man demonstrated honor and loyalty? If your wife can't trust you, neither can I.

John McCain says the hardest political lesson he's learned was what he took away from the Keating 5- a bank scandal. He's already proven himself unreliable around tax payers' money, why should he be trusted with the fate of the American economy?

Posted by: kgrigs | September 5, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Dear KR:

You wrote: "As a life long Repubican, I am just disgusted by my party and by John McCain"

You're a Democratic activist whose job is to fill up this and other Internet boards with hooey like that. You're not even old enough to see how transparent your efforts are -- like a child with chocolate all over his face trying to hide a cookie.

Posted by: Janet | September 5, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I hear Palin is taking McCain hunting this weekend in Texas...

...uh oh....

Posted by: Jonathan | September 5, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Republicans who think Democrat=socialist are morons.

Democrats who think Republican=nutjob are morons.

FACT.

Posted by: You know it's true | September 5, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Democratic Party platform:
1) If you are a woman, it's ok to pursue having both a family and a political career....unless you are conservative. Then you should just stay home with your kids because you can't possibly be a 'true' woman.

2) It's intolerant to call Islamic terrorists "terrorists". But it's perfectly fine to call Christians "extremists", "nut jobs", "fruitcakes", or any other derogatory term deemed appropriate.

3) We stand up for a woman's right to choose....unless she is poor or is carrying a less-than-perfectly-healthy fetus and chooses not to have an abortion. Then we believe the government should step in and make the choice for her because God knows we don't want any more disadvantaged kids like Barack Obama being given a chance to make something of themselves.

4) We believe in the freedom of speech to vigorously question candidates for high office...unless those vigorous questions come from conservatives toward OUR candidate. Then that's just downright hateful and mean-spirited.

5) We believe in cutting taxes for the poor and raising taxes on the rich. The rich includes anybody who has a job or owns a house. So anyone who doesn't have a job or doesn't own a house can look forward to a tax break on the income they don't have.

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

When people claim that it's about substance and not style where exactly was that substance that I missed from McCain's speech last nite. All I heard was that he's a POW war hero while stealing Obama's change theme. No specifics, no details, no real meat. Style and charisma is what motivates people and helps convince foreign leaders on important issues. If you don't have then you're not a leader.

Posted by: Ryan | September 5, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

dave, I prefer these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfUajhL24I&feature=related

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me, or did the end of Senator McCain's speech last night remind you of Tim Allen in "Galaxy Quest." "Never give up, never give in..." I'm not sure what that says about the folks in the audience.

Posted by: just sayin' | September 5, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Truly amusing...Ryan said: "McCain's speech had no specifics".

Did any of you guys listen to Obama's speech last week? Tell you what...Ryan, grab a pen and notebook and turn on your Tivo. Watch Obama's speech from last Thursday. Jot down a bullet point for every specific policy or plan detail Obama gave for how he will accomplish all his promises.

Let's put it this way. You don't have to worry about running out of ink...

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Also, note to Ryan. Hitler and Mussolini
also held their respective peoples in thrall.

Posted by: samiam | September 5, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

It's changing into a really, really hopeless week for Obama.

Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States, has received confirmation from his Process Service Company that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Senator Barack Obama were served today, September 4, 2008, with the legal documents pertaining to Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083.

Posted by: Rufus | September 5, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

dbw, he wont need a notebook either, a single sticky note would do.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

There was a time when I would have considered voting for John McCain. As a moderate Democrat, I even liked him more than John Kerry.

However, in embracing the extreme right wing, he has simply told me that, like most politicians, he is capable of selling out. I can no longer believe him when he says I would rather lose an election than "lose a war". You can substitute what's in quote with "compromise my principles".

It's also respectable that the Republicans have finally put a woman on the ticket. The Democrats did it 24 YEARS AGO. And Geraldine Ferraro was MUCH more qualified to be the Chief Executive if something happened to the President. I am sorry, but as compelling a personal story as Governor Palin may have, I can't vote fore someone whose plea is to Elect her because "Hockey Moms" know best.

This was obviously an attempt to woo the Clinton vote. But I trust Democratic women voters will put issues and beliefs first. If Senator Clinton was pro-choice, then they should not vote for someone who wishes to impose her morality on the rest of the country.

Sarah Palin may be a wonderful mother. She may even be a good Governor. And she certainly has camera and audience appeal that adds to the McCain ticket. But let's be clear, even though his experience level is closer to hers than to Senator McCain, Barrack Obama is clearly the more thoughtful, intelligent and committed candidate for office. He has been committed to this for 4 years. She is bathing in her newfound 15 minutes fame, and I predict that, should the Republicans lose the election, she will fade into relative oblivion.

The selection of Sarah Palin for Vice President was just the final nail in the coffin that Senator McCain has "sold out" and embraced that which he most despised about his own party.

He should have joined the Democrats in 2000 and we would now be talking about a McCain / Obama ticket, quite possibly with him as the headliner. Now THAT would have been something to write home about.

"Oh but for the Grace of God go I"

Posted by: G Gillen | September 5, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Count me as another republican who now has to pull the lever for a democrat - something I haven't done since Clinton's first (I was a young idealist back then so cut me some slack).

I don't care about speeches but Palin is nothing more than a very political choice. That is something John Mccain said he would not do. He has flip flopped so many times he might as well be a democrat anyway.

It will pain me but I'll have to pull that lever for ZerObama.

Posted by: RedRock | September 5, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

what a shame there are so many angry liberals...letting emotion rule over wisdom only indicates you put yourself first over all else and that costly mistake will put the least qualified and capable in the White House.

Posted by: dawn | September 5, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

To dawn:

Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and escape the party line. If you do that NOW, then in four years we have a chance of a real republican AND conservative candidate getting in who is steadfast in his beliefs and unflinching in the face of political adversity. Mccain is NOT that man.

Posted by: RedRock | September 5, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

RedRock, you got it man. That's why as an independent who is tired of the media shoving Obama down my throat I'm voting for McCain.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

"McCain and Palin represent the beliefs of 50% of the people of this great country. Obama doesn't have a clue about rural Americans. If Obama is elected, just remember our taxes will probably double because of his plan to give money away to people who won't work. Also, we'll be paying reparations to the blacks for slavery. That will sure take a bite out of our tax dollar. Obama may be a better speaker that McCain, but I trust McCain/Palin ticket to lead America more than Obama because I just can't get out of my mind seeing his preacher of 20 years belittle America and the white race. I mean how could anyone really listen to that for 20 years and defend him!!!"

**********

*Obama is going to reduce taxes for 95% of Americans. That means YOU.

*Obama opposes reparations for slavery. Here's a quote from Obama:

"I have said in the past -- and I'll repeat again -- that the best reparations we can provide are good schools in the inner city and jobs for people who are unemployed," the Illinois Democrat said recently.

and

In a 2004 questionnaire, he told the NAACP, "I fear that reparations would be an excuse for some to say, 'We've paid our debt,' and to avoid the much harder work."

*Obama on Rev. Wright:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23648883/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

ProudtobeGOP said:

The RNC seemed much more patriotic than the DNC. When I think about who this country was founded by I know it was people like those who filled the halls at the RNC.

I know, me too! Oh wait...you did mean rich, white slavemasters, right?

Posted by: HereWeGoAgain | September 5, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

"******THIS JUST IN*********

John McCain wonders out loud "WHAT HAVE I DONE"?!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-QevraCQUc"

*******

Hilarious!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

McCain was for the Republican Party before he was against it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

"Obama is going to reduce taxes for 95% of Americans. That means YOU."

Unless you own a small business or decide to sell your house, or need to take a disbursement from your retirement account to pay for your kids college....etc.

An enormous percentage of taxes are payed by a minority of Americans:
The Top 1% of taxpayers pay 29% of all taxes.
The Top 5% of taxpayers pay 50% of all taxes.

For the record I am not in the top 5%. I am in the top 10% however....

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Eddie said:

We have two choices:

1. Elect a War Hero

2. Elect a Communist (nee Democrat)

BO can't even speak without a Teleprompter. Limbaugh has a tape of him saying ugh a total of 8 minutes in a 45 minute news conference. The man is a moron, who's economic plan will not only damage the country but also affect peoples life savings...

Hell, I'd take George McGovern over him
_______________________________
Poor Eddie. No one told him Ronald Reagan defeated the Communists single handidly without firing a shot. Eddie is living in the past like his candidate, Granpa Simpson, who may have been a maverick at one time but the, like Colin Powell, sold out to Cheney's neocons and then to intolerant neochristians by selecting the evangelical wingnut Annie Oakley.

Posted by: Roy | September 5, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

So our choice is between and used to be maverick and a never been anything?

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse


WHY oh why are McCain's sons not fighting
in Iraq or Afganistan. Republicans want
somebody elses sons and daughters to die
and be mained for life, but not their
darlings. Shame on McCain's hypocracy.

Posted by: Alice Ropchan | September 5, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

"I know, me too! Oh wait...you did mean rich, white slavemasters, right?"

Just so we don't forget, the Republican party was formed in the 1850's to thwart the spread of slavery to the western states.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

"WHY oh why are McCain's sons not fighting
in Iraq or Afganistan. Republicans want
somebody elses sons and daughters to die
and be mained for life, but not their
darlings. Shame on McCain's hypocracy."


His sons are fighting in Iraq.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

His speech was terrible. People are trying to be charitable, but let's just admit that it stunk.

Palin sounds like a pretty typical Republican playing the Karl Rove handbook.

Suddenly in September, he is embracing a "reform" agenda, with no new policy to propose that actually qualifies for the term.

If he's just figuring out in September his major theme, it makes me think that he hasn't had a compelling reason to run this year. Just that he has an ego and thinks that he should be President.

Sad. In 2000, McCain was something different. Now it's just the standard GOP, going back to the well, except with even more bible thumping mixed in.

Posted by: BB | September 5, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

One more thought:

Republicans who want to assess the future of their party need look no further than the audience at the convention - old and white and mostly male. Like it or not, America's future does not look like that room.

Posted by: BB | September 5, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Jay,

McCain can bring us there? If he was so principled, he would have voted against the Bush/Cheney agenda, which has increased government spending by the largest amount in the history of this Nation. Give me a break!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

DBW,

So Demos are hypocrites, huh? Watch as Sarah Palin calls Hillary a whiner for complaining about the media coverage of her and as Rove deconstructs Tom Kaine and says he's inexperienced but later says Sarah Palin is. What a joke!!!!!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card

Please provide us with your insight after you've watched it.

Posted by: Mark "Page" Foley | September 5, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

He has voted against every pork barrel, earmark laden bill that has been up for a vote. McCain's record is pretty clear.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Ron E,

I'm tired of this country being run by a bunch of chickenhawks (that's right, not Bush, Cheney, Wolfie, Condi or the rest of that sorry crew has every donned a uniform of any kind (okay, except for Bush's cheerleading uniform at Yale) morons that graduated at the bottom of their class.

John McCain is a brave guy, no doubt. But the media is one that made him a maverick. Without the media, there is no maverick.

Lastly, can anyone please explain to me why Tucker Eskew, the man who put out the filthy lies about McCain during the 2000 SC primary at the behest of Rove & Co. is now working for McCain (hired on Monday)????? And now I'm supposed to believe that McCain is a guy of principle?

Larry "Stance" Craig

Posted by: Larry | September 5, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, McCain's record is pretty clear. He's voted with the Bush/Cheney crew 90% of the time.

Scot "Free" Libby

Posted by: Scooter | September 5, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, McCain's record is pretty clear. He's voted with the Bush/Cheney crew 90% of the time.

And Obama voted with McCain 90% of the time.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Vote for a war hero if you want endless war. Vote for a lipsticked pit bull if you want all our animals dead and our trees cut down and our land ruined in pursuit of the last drops of oil, which might keep us going an extra few days. The people at the Democratic convention looked happy and hopeful. The people at the Republican convention looked mad and mind-controlled. The Democratic speeches attacked policies. The Republicans attacked people. The Democrats have new ideas. The Republicans frame old ideas with new buzz words stolen from the Democrats, like change and reform. How can anyone consider this a contest?

Posted by: susan 7214 | September 5, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain a maverick ? "Maverick" is something someone else calls you. Its not something you call yourself. But McCain is so deeply and grotesquely uncultured and unrefined he wouldnt realise that. He and Palin suit one another perfectly: the stupid and moronic face of Murka. By the way, its time American commentators were able to differentiate between being a maverick, and being mentally disordered. Anyone who shoots little wild animals from a helicopter is clearly mentally disordered, and so are the people who admire her.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

A moose is not little.

"The Democrats have new ideas."

When did they roll those out? All I've seen is the same ideas the Democrats always roll out come election time, just better packaged and delivered by the Messiah.

Posted by: Ron E | September 5, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain's speech can be summed up in two sentences:

"The Republicans are total bums. Throw them out and elect more Republicans.

Posted by: Man of Great Wisdon (sort of) | September 5, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Let’s invite Sarah to the next Democratic bash. We can put the beer between her legs to keep it cold.

Posted by: J. Bladen | September 5, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

"I couldn't help noticing the "University Republican's for McCain" poster at the convention last night. When a college student goes to the effort of making an attractive poster with an obvious English-language mistake, one can see how low the standards of language usage have dropped. It might just as well have been at the Democratic Convention, though. It does show me that the best minds generally do not go into politics, which elevates oversimplification to an art form."

I think it just means he is the only Republican at his college.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you all the way Ron.E

Let the weak take care of themselves; so us in power can take care of the rich so they in turn owe it to us to take care of the ones who helped them out!

IF WE STICK TOGETHER THE WHITE ARYAN RACE WILL CONQUER THE WORLD!!!

We
Accept
Republicans

W.e
A.ccept
R.epublicans

We Accept Republicans

W.e A.ccept R.epublicans

WAR, WAR, WAR!!!

Posted by: A.Hitler | September 5, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Together we can beat them.

We
Approve
Republicans

W.e
A.pprove
R.epublicans

We Approve Republicans

W.e A.pprove R.epublicans

WAR, WAR, WAR!!!

Bring em' on...

Go G.I. John @ Sarah Barracuda.

Posted by: A.Hitler | September 5, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

The Republican "reform" message is just too rich by half. It's a little like watching a snake shed its skin and then try to pretend it's actually a mouse. It's time to flush the toilet on these clowns. Only then can we pick up the pieces left over from eight years of GOP misrule and move forward.

Posted by: Innocent Bystander | September 5, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Can I be proud to be an American AND be embarrassed of things that Americans do? I think so. We can be proud of the family we are in BUT embarrassed by things family members do. The nomination of Palin demonstrates McCain's and the Republican Party's extremely poor judgement. McCain should be deemed "incompetent" in a court of law. When an older family member slips slowly into senility, it's often very difficult for family members to see it as they continue to trust as competent what that older relative says and does.
Also, these days political polls are meaningless. I, like many others, have been screening phone calls for over 15 years. I receive 5-10 calls a day when the caller hangs up without leaving a message. Also many young people use cell phones exclusively and don't even have landlines. Polls done using phone calls are about as relevant today as in the first half of the 1900s when fewer than 50% of the population had phones.

Posted by: Janet | September 5, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

What we saw at RNC is very disturbing. They showed that they will do anything to get elected. John McCain is not independent maverick he clams to be. Look at his first most important executive decision to choose Sarah Palin as his running mate. It was meant only to satisfy the extreme right. If McCain accepts all her views and advice, we have to fear more than Dick Chaney as our VP for past 8 years. She is another “drill baby drill and burn in your SUV” on energy policy and against Roe Vs Wade. The possibility of her being a hart beat away from being President should also be considered.
John McCain did not propose any solutions for the economy that his party has been responsible during the last 8 years. It felt like all Republicans live in a different America, one that does not have any economic problems. They are fighting a war that will end in a Victory.
If you fight there war and not question they will give you a purple hart.
Does that sound similar to the Key to heaven if you fight Jihad?
We should not underestimate there resolve and work hard to make sure that we do not have four more years of Republicans in the white house. It will take a lot of work in next 60 days to make sure that we do not have similar experience as that of 2000 election. We must work so that there are no states where the numbers are so close. Let’s go out and get started. Good bless the United States of America.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Michael, but you're wrong.

It DID flop.

The whole evening was a noun, a verb, and BOTH 9/11 and POW.

And how about Cindy's speech? Talk about a snooze fest.

Posted by: CalGal | September 5, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Lets see, just what has happened to the Republicans recently?

-Abortion is still not okay,
---but---
-Teen pregnancy is now okay!
-The boy who gets your teen pregnant is of course a great guy!
-Big government is good as long as its a republican government.
-Big spending is okay as long as its republican spending.
-Torture is okay.
-Diplomacy is a solution of last resort.
-Democrats are evil because they want everyone to have an abortion.
-A Clinton presidency is something awful because it would establish a "dynasty", but a father-son Bush presidency is okay.
-The republicans have made acknowledged mistakes that can only be fixed by more republicans.
-Dick Cheney? Who is Dick Cheney?
-We like Bush, except for everything he has done, that we supported, that we intend to fix.
-If the news media brings up embarrassing questions, like CNN's Campbell Brown did with Tucker Bounds asking for *one* order Palin gave the AK National Guard, then punish, punish, punish as best can be done when the truth, that Palin made NO orders but claims to have done so. How dare the news media ask embarrassing questions of republicans. And why aren't the news media asking the democrats embarrassing questions?

You know, maybe its time the republicans learned what it means to mess with America. Not one vote for a republican. If American did that then maybe, MAYBE, they might take notice and change. McCain talks of change wile expressing a continuation of republican policy. Let the republicans know they are not automatically 50% of American government. Let them see that they can loose elections. We did it here in MD when we tossed out a popular Congresswoman, Connie Morella, not because she was incompetent but because she voted with the republican majority. Others can learn this hard lesson. Screw with America and you'll be out on your ear.

Not one republican vote this year, not one. Its time the republicans learned they are not entitled to lead in government by default. It must be earned, and so far none have earned their positions. Toss them all out.

Posted by: Fate | September 5, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Don't just stay home,go vote for a third party candidate.Then you can go back home and get drunk if you want.The election is like shopping,if the only two stores in town don't offer what you want...try the stores in the next town over.If enough people do that your local stores will start offering what you really want.

Posted by: The Do-Over Girl | September 5, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

This Blog has done to journalism what Larry Craig did to airport men's rooms.


Posted by: Thelonemule | September 5, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse


"obamanation is a parrot. follow the lemurs into the sea you theocrat."

Lemurs don't go to the sea, ignorant. Lemmings do.

That's the problem of our country: the large amount of ignorants that can't distinguish between our mediocre present and the false smiles that McCain and Palin give. Who created our mediocre present (and dark future) after having a country that was respected in the world and had a large national surplus? The corrupt republicans did! And you want to vote for them again? Please have respect for my children!

Posted by: Marco | September 5, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Please, please don't stop. I want to hear more irrational rants for the militant, gay left.

Bonehug!!

Posted by: Thelonemule | September 5, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Those of us who truly remember the "Keating Five" remember that four of them were Democrats.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

The description of Palin as a "pit bull with lipstick" misses the key point relating to someone who could be a heartbeat away from the presidency: SHE IS GEORGE BUSH WITH LIPSTICK! If you want a potential third Bush presidency in terms of zero self awareness, contempt for environmental protection, go-it-alone "talk loud and wield a big stick" foreign policy, kowtowing to big corporations, dislike of the First Amendment separation of church and state,and the whole remaining kit and kaboodle of hard-right-Republicanism, this is your candidate!

Posted by: streetcar | September 5, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Man, I think I just changed my vote to Obama because of all these former McCain backers on here who switched to Obama because Sarah Palin didn't run back to Alaska and hide like any lady not named Hillary was supposed to do.

Nice try DNC staffers. You guys are the masters of polls, so look at the polls coming out today (and more to come this weekend) that show independents have hugely favorable opinions of Palin.

Oh, one more thing....more INDEPENDENTS think McCain made the right choice of running mate in Palin, than Obama did with Biden.

It's a hoot watching you guys spin in fear. Why don't you post some more of those "I used to like John McCain until Sarah Palin came along" blurbs. Those are really effective...

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

I am a Democrat who used to be a really huge supporter of Obama, but when I saw him choose...gasp....a liberal as a running mate, I was outraged. I'm now voting for McCain.

(c'mon, I had you going. This is at least as believable as all these other "I was going to vote for McCain but now I'm not because he picked a conservative as a running mate" posts?)

Posted by: dbw | September 5, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse


Please, please tell me how great America will be with Same-Sex marriage legislation favored by Obama?

Bonehug!!

Obama = Larry Craig with a tan.

Posted by: Thelonemule | September 5, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

EEEEEEEEE! I am back, less discerning and more rabidly neoconservative than ever! I wish to fellate Michael Gerson and spit the results in Hillary's face! EE-EEEEEEE-EEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Posted by: Sherry Kay | September 5, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Time for the Revolution. McCain and Palin are a feeble joke forced on a population that is dumber than rocks, made so by a corporate-controlled media. The Republicans are fond of criticizing the media for degrading our culture, but the media is owned and controlled by the very people that bankroll the Republican party. What a hypocritical joke! Whatever greatness America had was lost long ago, during the days of Nixon and Reagan. Nowadays we have the spectacle of people thinking that they are patriots because they can chant USA over and over again, or plaster magnetic ribbon bows all over their cars. What a load of fatuous crap. America is doomed, and it is the Republicans that have dragged America down into the pits.

Posted by: Chagasman | September 5, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I admit that my hateful homophobia comes from my secret admiration for, uh, the strong shoulders and.... stiff (gulp) muscular arms of.... oh! ,,,,, MITT... ROMNEY.... oh his teeth his chin HIS THIGHS!

As you can see, I am working on becoming more open-minded.

Does anyone have a cigarette?

Posted by: Thelonemule | September 5, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

USA!!!!!!!!!!!!

USA!!!!!!!!!!!!

USA!!!!!!!!!!!!

USA!!!!!!!!!!!!

USA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Thelonemule | September 5, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I forgot...BONEHUG!!!!!!!

Posted by: Thelonemule | September 5, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I do love a man that still has a pair...I guess Obama is safe!!!!

Bonehug!!

Posted by: Thelonemule | September 5, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Flip-flopping on torture, voting for an unnecessary war, coddling up to neo-conservatives, voting with Bush 95% of the time, stacking a campaign with Lobbyists, overseeing record unemployment and foreclosures, deriding community organizers and enjoying the luxury of 7 houses while the average American struggles to keep afloat - does not a Reformer make!

Posted by: woody | September 5, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

And as for all this crap about Palin having more experience than Obama. She is being held away from the press for two weeks while she crams for interviews. You remember cramming for exams - you forget it all a week later. So she's qualified to occupy the oval office if necessary?

Obama has given hundreds of interviews and been in at least 22 debates. Palin has no experience.

Posted by: orrg1 | September 5, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

I used to expect politicians to embellish the truth. Now both parties lie but at least the Democrats lie alot less.

The Republican convention speeches were so full of hate and lies, im not sure where it starts or ends.

I am going to vote for Obama, however if McCaine is elected, even he will be a large improvement over Bush. One thing though scares the heck out of me - Palin. If McCaine health should faulter, a country run by her is going to be a disaster. Her records speaks volumes about her ability to lie, double cross, divide, and advance at great costs her career to achieve viewpoints that are not representative of the viewpoints of mainstream america.

We are at yet another cross-roads with this election as we were in 2000. If McCaine is elected, there will be at least one new war we will enter. God help us if Palin takes the wheel.

Posted by: LyingSacksofLiquidCrap | September 5, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Gerson you've hit it on the head: McCain's speech was a completely missed opportunity. The build up all week long was "we can bring you change!" Granted much of the dichotomy they set up with the Dem's were lies ("they'll raise your taxes!" when indendent analysis from unaligned organizations show that Obama's tax plan cuts taxes for 95% of income tax payers and McCain's plan will balloon the deficit), but they were building up this change message and intimating reaching out to moderates and independents. (Though Palin sets that effort back. The true "maverick" pick would have been Lieberman or Ridge. But I guess his party couldn't take that much change.) But when he gave his speech it was just standard republican boilerplate. No new ideas at all, just parroting the same policies we've heard every four years since 1980. How in the world is THAT change??? And while Palin gave a very good speech, she has done nothing to address her rampant hypocrisy: railing against gov't waste and masquerading as a reformer when she has led her state to be the biggest recipient of pork in the nation. They still lead the nation and it's not even new projects, just sustaining the same projects from the past. And the thought that $27M of my tax dollars went to improve some sleepy hamlet out on the ice somewhere--funds that she actively sought while cutting property taxes in her little town--is infuriating. She puts money in their pockets and takes it from mine just to benefit them! Where is any attempt being made to break with the policies of the past and chart a new course--i.e., change? Where is any serious attempt to reach out to moderates and independents? The McCain from 2000 is a distant memory. He's been replaced by this pod sent by the conservative right. Nothing more than a tinman built by the Karl Rove set in a cynical attempt to get votes from moderates in order to further entrench the same folks who got us into this mess. Well they're not getting my vote.

Posted by: geof in baltimore | September 5, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Carville is calling the city hall in Wasilla a bait shop. Thats real smart Carville you phony.

Posted by: Jim | September 5, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Just keep making fun of Alaska Carville. Why don't you see if you can talk yourself out of an election.

Posted by: Jim | September 5, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

I admire Palin's stances on political issues and they mirror many of my own, but she isn't fit to be president (yet) and so shouldn't be vice president.

I was swayed by Obama having no experience but now Mccain has proven the choice of VP to be only political and not practical and swept away that argument.

Its now between two inexperienced people and so experience as an issue can be ignored.

I'm sorry if you don't buy it, but it is how I feel. I do understand your frustration about it happening, but its something you'll have to get used to.

Posted by: RedRock | September 5, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Jim, Wasilla really is a tiny town. Its so small that no joke reaches the truth really.

Posted by: RedRock | September 5, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

This is disgusting and sexist so be warned...

What is the best thing about a BJ from Ms. Sarah Palin..............the silence.

Boy that woman's voice is shrill.

Posted by: Paul Reubens | September 6, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

To all democrats: do not be shocked when Obama loses.. it could very well happen. While it would be yet another huge disappointment, just remember this: at least the majority of the country trusted your party for 12 of the last 40 years. Of course the Carter years were the worst financial years since the Great Depression. 20% interest rates, gas rationing, etc. Clinton did pretty well making the prosperity from the Reagan years last almost 8 years. Unfortunately for Obama, the left-wing media just can't fool smart people. There is no recession-fact. Unemployment, while up last month has remained lower for Bush's two terms than in Clintons-fact. Foreclosures are at slighly over 1 million, after an increase in home ownership in Bush's last term of 16 million-fact. 97% of all home loans are NOT delinquent or in foreclosure-fact. The surge worked and Iraq is under control and Iraq's citizens now have a democratic society as opposed to a brutal dictatorship-fact. The Gross National Product increased 3.3% in the 2nd quarter this year-fact. The Dow Jones went over 10,000 for the first time during Bush's administration and remains over 11,000 as of today-fact. State taxes on a gallon of gas are higher than an oil company's net profit on that same gallon of gas-fact. The Democratic controlled Congress has a lower approval rating than President Bush-fact. Many left-wing colleges have endowment funds heavily invested in oil futures and have reaped record profits (up to one hundred million dollars in profit for 1 college)while fuel prices are at record levels-fact. The average democratic Congressman or Congresswoman's net worth increased to over 4 million dollars since taking office-fact. All this information is available if you look for it. You won't hear about it in the mainstream media. They picked their candidate a long time ago. It isn't for any reason other than the sheer joy of being able to manipulate large masses of people-the ignorant ones. If the mainstream media can get an inexperienced, tax-raising, American-hating, flip-flopping, narcissist elected President, they will laugh long and hard at the fools they were able to mislead. Meanwhile we will all be standing in line at the soup kitchen like they did in the early 1930's.

Posted by: Steve C | September 6, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Redrock, And?

Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

Carville probably wants Obama to lose anyway so Hillary can run again next time. Let alone what his ideas may be about race.

Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

Redrock, thats the point. All small towns are a joke to people like you.

Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Reubens, you suck too.

Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2008 1:40 AM | Report abuse

I don't give a hoot about all your suck big cities either.

Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

And besides, how much food do you grow in new York?

Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2008 1:47 AM | Report abuse

Steve, you are the kind of people who put our national debt at $10 trillion and counting, let defense contractors steal the country blind, and Wall Street go all to heck.

Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Since the RNC convention and follow up talk is apparently more of the Rove/Bush/Cheney/ crony/liars/incompetents/anti-science idiots/
anti-environment/anti-education/anti-jobs etc. why would we need to discuss them further.
Therefore it is appropriate to remember that with only 145 days until inauguration that we Annoy Forward any Bush II Library contributors/supporters by emailing them in fashion possible the following:

Bush II4library is coming and now's the time to FLIP out with ideas. Here are mine:
Dear fellow surviving Americans,
In so far as "the end" is in sight (7 months) and hope springs at less than $4/gal.

As a fitting, deserved and lasting tribute to the George W. Bush administreason, I hereby recommend to the new Congress of 2009, that they make these the MORAL requirements of said SMU located Bush II Library: (assuming enough beer drinking oil rich buddies remain in his corner or possibly his cell).

1. The entrance must display the names and biographies of all our soldiers killed in Afghanistan and Iraq. Such a waste of life in a "Decider's" war.
2. The first room before entry to the rest of the "facility of shame" contain the 'before & after' photos of the injured in these two wars along with the/any prognosis for their recovery (HIPPA req. aside). They represent an inestimable cost in pain and suffering over and above all the monetary expense from this huge WMD lies-based mistake.
3. Daily contest for Katrina displaced persons to win a Habitat for Humanity Home (non-FEMA Trailer) or other structure to go back to live safely in Louisiana. Winners do not have to be present to continue keeping their head above water.
4. Hourly contest for free gas to winner for a period equal to length of Iraq war. Only non-SUV owners may qualify.
5. All admitted visitors be paid for coming to acknowledge the self- righteous devastation he (GWB), has invoked/caused/brought on our country.
6. All cronies (incl. Texans) be forced to either visit and/or be on display showing how they would defuse I.E.D.s with the same amount of armor they provided early on in Iraq (if not in jail).
7. May the children's section for angry adults contain "Whack-A-Mole" with effigy representations of folks within the Bush distorted inner-circle like Rove, Rummy, Libby, Miers, Gonzales, Ashcroft, Brownie, Mitch McConnell, Dennis Hastert, Ron Foley, Larry Craig, Tom DeLay, Bob Ney, Duke Cunningham, Vitter, etc. et al and especially Dick Cheney and George W. Bush. To keep it bi-partisan, William Jefferson Dem of LA is to be included for frozen $tupidity.
8. As you leave be given discount coupons for luggage fees for your next two flights on whatever airlines may still exist with U.S. hubs.
9. Be given the opportunity to get your little finger dyed purple to prove you visited there with appropriate amount of shame for this "disgraceful" period in our history.
If middle finger (the Bird) is dyed, you would vote to Impeach/Indict him/them even after leaving office. To think otherwise is to verify you are an effen (expletive included) ostrich of the petrified head group of repugnicans.
10. Provide a receptacle for book contributions that GWB must read before ever giving or attempting another bumbling speech or opening locked doors or dancing 'native' gyrations.

Sincerely and regrettably,

Way former republican; now a plain citizen with a spied upon conscience, shrunken wallet, downsized auto, over extended loans to buy food and pharmaceuticals, carbon smog mask wearer and newly registered "Not-Republican."

Posted by: vox publicuss disgustus | September 6, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

Where do we get the oil then, Obama? Inflating tires is not gonna bring the oil price down? The democratic party, unfortunately, haven't come up with a convincing answer to this question yet. At least McCain just sets it straight, not worried about hurting the extreme followers of Gore (who flies his private jets, and drives around in his SUVs.) If you listen to the whole speech, McCain did not only mention "DRILL, DRILL, DRILL." He also mentioned other energy alternatives including nuclear power, bio-fuels and even electricity. Sorry democrats, I have high respect for McCain. One reason, he talks straight and is very proud to be an American--not to mention he almost died in serving his country. I respect someone who have honorably served his country. And please, do not portray the Republicans as only caring for the rich, that's not true. I've seen family, friends and neighbors who have become successful in life because of hard work and honest living. I've met some people who are capable of working and yet they rather whine and feel so sorry for themselves and then blame the government. If I'm not mistaken, a democratic president once said, "Ask not what your country can do for you-- instead, ask what you can do for your country." About the critics who paints an ugly picture of this beautiful and intelligent governor, the senator's running mate, Sarah Palin--- hey! she is who she is. Alaska is unbelievably a humongous fishing and hunting ground, and the woman's chosen recreation is to be outdoors hunting and fishing. Kerry, love to hunt too, right? I bet you, he had been to Alaska and had a terrific time. By the way, I noticed most of the democrats who've blog here are rude (full of inappropriate comments.) I still cannot erase from my mind the sacrilege words uttered by Obama's pastor--- inside the church!

Posted by: eva | September 6, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse

Who is the real Sarah Palin?

1) Bridge to no where supporter.
2) Abramoff associated earmark lobbyist hirer .
3) More earmark pork barrel money then any other state getter.
4) ethics committee dodger.
5) Media dodger
6) Alaska cession booster
7) Book Banner
8) loyalty test wholesale staff firer.
9) 527 on indicted Ted Stevens director.
10(Seeker of 15 million dollars from washington to build a train to Ted Stevens ski resort asker.
11) Alaska national guard not giving a single order issuer.
12) Sermon about Israel having terrorists because Jews won't accept Christ attender.
13) Vendetta with official powers pursuer.
14) Bad EBAY seller.

And today the McCain camp said they will not have Palin do interviews unless its in their best interests. I wonder why.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 2:43 AM | Report abuse

This forum is a waste of valuable time.

Posted by: Tired | September 6, 2008 3:56 AM | Report abuse

Cindy's speech? A laugh out loud fest. She told us her husband doesn't lie...well, did he lie to his wife when he was having the affair with YOU? Did he lie to the American people about having the affair before he was divorced?

Inflated tires not bringing the price of oil down? Oh YES it WOULD. By lowering demand. Basic economics, something it seems Micropublicans are woefully short of.

To the guy complaining about high taxes: then don't elect Republicans who keep deficit spending!!! You know, bills have to be paid eventually!

Posted by: Deliphus | September 6, 2008 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Jim,

I grew up in a very small town, maybe twice the size of Wasilla. I still have family there, still return there often.

I had to move out for business reasons.

No way would I ever consider any mayor of that town as qualified for ANYTHING just because they were mayor.

And if an ex-mayor was running for president and used it as good reason to vote for him, I would be the first to laugh at him.

Posted by: RedRock | September 6, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

RedRock, fair enough.

Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Jim,

I grew up in a very small town, maybe twice the size of Wasilla. I still have family there, still return there often.

I had to move out for business reasons.

No way would I ever consider any mayor of that town as qualified for ANYTHING just because they were mayor.

And if an ex-mayor was running for president and used it as good reason to vote for him, I would be the first to laugh at him.

Posted by: RedRock | September 6, 2008 9:37 AM
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Of course your comment would hold more validity if you hadn't neglected the little job she had of the GOVERNORSHIP OF A US STATE in between the mayorship and this campaign.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Please, for the love of God why won't you people just come out and admit that your all members of the Angry Gay Left.


Bonehug!!

Posted by: Thelonemule | September 6, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

What are concerned thoughtful citizens to do? One one hand, Obama is inexperienced and has baggage (Wright, eg) and now McCain has completely pandered to the religious right. I had respect for McCain, he WAS a maverick. Not anymore. How in God's name could he select Palin with a theme of "Country First"? It's an insult to me, and now I have to listen to the republican's drivel about sexism/media bias, when she's so obviously unqualified. They're the party of change when they've been in power eight years?

Now it's about McCain's judgement, and it's not looking so good.

Posted by: Jazz | September 6, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

What are concerned thoughtful citizens to do?
Jazz,

In your case I suggest you stop reading the Angry Gay Left Manifesto and take a cold shower.

Think of Obama Girl in a bikini. That should slow your heartbeat.

Bonehug!!!!!!!

Posted by: Thelonemule | September 6, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

The entire thing is a fiasco.

Reminds me of Jean Genet's "The Balcony".

Posted by: sanity | September 6, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

We could have saved all this trauma by nominating a true leader with experience who can also make a good speech. Senator Clinton would walk away with this election. Instead, Obama sends her on a speaking tour to bail him out.

Posted by: Karolyn | September 6, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey lone mule, you're a real ASS.

Posted by: Jenny | September 6, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

September 2007: McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments. At the time, nearly 65% of people polled in a CNN poll indicted that "things are going either moderately badly or very badly in Iraq.

May 2006: McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities.

April 2006: McCain was one of only 13 Senators to vote against $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.

March 2006: McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.

A Military Hero, or McBush with 95% Bush Vote in Congress?
McCain "Supports Bush/Cheney Iraq War of Choice and Continued Oil Occupation... For Next 100 Years if Needed For Victory"!

McCain Does Not Support American Soldiers and their Families!

Posted by: Realista | September 6, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Don't vote for a small town hick governor. Vote for someone from a jungle city.

Posted by: rick | September 6, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Why is it we never see Barak Obama and Jimmie JJ Walker from Good Times on the same stage...

Think about it.

DynooooMite!!!!!!!!!


Bonehug!!!!!!

Posted by: Thelonemule | September 6, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Hitler was a great orator. He promised change.

Winston Churchill was very aggressive and abrasive. He saved Britania.

Why is anyone entitled to that which was earned by someone else?

How is having 3 games systems, 2 plasma TV's, 2 cars, a 2000+ sq ft house poverty?

What about the 97% of people still paying their mortgages?

What about the 270 million Americans who have health insurance and don't want it downgraded?

What right to we have to expect other countries to drill for oil when we won't drill for our own?

Some Industrialized nations wished their unemployment rate was as low as 6.1%.

Why are we Americans so willing to whine about things instead of getting the job done like we used to?

Posted by: Deornwulf | September 6, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Eloquence is no substitute for an erection.

Posted by: Tony | September 6, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

I have two words to describe Sarah Palin: WHITE TRASH

Posted by: JAMES MADISON | September 6, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

What kind of trash are you who signs james madison.

Posted by: Lorna Dune | September 6, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

"Don't vote for a small town hick governor. Vote for someone from a jungle city."

Oh goody. "Personality politics." Just what we need as we sit here up the economic creek without a paddle. Why not ask which one you'd rather have a beer with? Oh right, that one didn't work out so well.

Posted by: fzdybel | September 8, 2008 5:36 AM | Report abuse

(Gleaned from another forum, and I agree)

FOR THOSE OF YOU UNINFORMED HATERS WHO THINK OBAMA HAS NO QUALIFICATIONS:

1. Obama is a graduate of Columbia University

2. Obama is a Harvard Law Graduate

3. Obama was the President of the Harvard Law Review.

4. Obama was a Harvard Law Professor

5. Obama spent several years as a community organizer, which shows his ability to work with people and make things better for the common ordinary folks.

6. Obama was an Illinois State Senator for 8 years.

7. Obama co-sponsored 820 bills in the Il. State Senate.

8. Obama has been a US Senator for 4 years.

9. Obama co-sponsored 420 bills in the US Senate.

10. Obama AUTHORED 152 bills in the US Senate

11. Obama passed the 2007 Ethics Reform, described by many as the most sweeping package of it's kind since Watergate.

12. Obama has extremely good judgment on Foreign affairs, as in his right on the money judgment of Iraq....in which Malaki and Bush now have aligned themselves with Obama's call for a withdrawal/timetable.

13. Obama worked ACROSS THE ISLE with Sen. Lugar in keeping nuclear material out of the hands of terrorists.

There maybe some slight inaccuracies, but the bottom line is: Your arguements can be squashed with facts. The Facts are what we democrats have on our side. These facts and many others will make the rethugs lives a living hell.

Posted by: Tired | September 8, 2008 7:00 AM | Report abuse

The selection of Gov. Sara Palin was surprising when first announced, certainly to the mainstream media. In retrospect however, the first hints of such a choice came two years ago when Sen. Mccain sought the approval of the evangelical base of his party (some would say "sell-out" or "pander"). I think that he assessed his needs as a candidate and choose to change inconvenient beliefs and positions to fit the requirements of the radical religious right. He is just another politician. Palin is the hope for the evangelical right and McCain is just the means of insertion of Gov. Palin into the national limelight.

Posted by: michaelwilson1957 | September 8, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

HAG 1:6 Ye have sown much, and bring in little; ye eat, but ye

have not enough; ye drink, but ye are not filled with drink; ye

clothe you, but there is none warm; and he that earneth wages

earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes.

Posted by: hillhopper | September 8, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

It is really killing you Left Wing Bone Smokers to know that McCain is going to win this election.

Where is Hillary?

I seen people with higher profiles in the Witness Protection Program.

Obama Loses = America Wins


Bonehug!!!

Posted by: Thelonemule | September 8, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

"Obama's ideologies comprise the exact things that have damaged our country; the growth of big governmnet has to stop. McCain is the ONLY choice."

Posted by: Jay | September 5, 2008 9:04 AM
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Oh now I get it. So the repubs have been holding the purse strings for 8 years. And while Mr. McCain's grasp on economic issues is what....devastingly absent, it's ok with you that he'll turn the job of our economic future over to the modern day architect of the Enron debacle and the current mortgage crises.. Mr. Lindsay Gramm.
Uh huh... The national debt increased from $5.9 Tril to $9.7 Tril before you the FRE/FNM bailouts. The deficit is expected to just skim $500B this year but was a surplus of $230B in '00 after a $125B surplus in '99. Yet the growth of US gov't these last 8 years is Obama's fault. The disasters of Enron, FNM/FRE, banks across America & Bear Stearns is Obama's fault? All other services, except for earmark dollars to Alaska are heading down just like American jobs which are heading out, but the republicans got it right?

Did Obama start out as a republican? Or do you fall off a turnip truck?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I absolutely love the oft repeated statement that says that if Democrats control the White House bombs will fall on the U.S., I assume the proof is the voter registration card held by our president on 9/11?

Posted by: Abnrgrmustang | September 8, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Here's what I love:

I'M A HOMO!!!!!!

Posted by: The Angry Gay Left | September 8, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

For the last 25 years, Palin has been an ardent member of the Wasilla Assembly of God church (some of whose tenets are extreme even by the standards of many fundamentalist denominations). Her world views have thus been inevitably strongly colored by the tenets of that church.

One must visit the following web site and see the video clip in it (besides reading the material in that web site detailing the tenets of Palin's church). After reading the material and seeing the video clip in this web site, even an atheist is likely to invoke God and say to herself/himself "God save America from the remotest possibility of Palin getting into the veep's chair this January and getting to be next in line as America' president should something happen to McCain as the hypothetical next US president."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-wilson/sarah-palins-churches-and_b_124611.html

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Posted by: An Observer | September 9, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

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