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McCain's Chilling Dance With the Dark Side

So the McCain camp is trying to raise doubts about Barack Obama -- even though the Illinois senator has been on the national stage for four years and has been under the presidential campaign microscope for the last 20 months. They seem to have no qualms appealing to the cultural fears of their agitated, and now energized, base by practically branding Obama as un-American or anti-American. And this is eliciting an ugliness at McCain-Palin events that is justifiably raising alarms that some nut job is going to act on the Republican ticket's cynical campaigning.

For two days now, there have been stories about boisterous McCain-Palin supporters screaming inflammatory words at the very mention of Obama's name. Words like "terrorist" and "Kill him!" and "treason." And at no point has McCain or Palin called on those folks and others who would imitate them to stop. It reminds me of McCain's laughing response, during the primaries, when a South Carolina supporter asked, in reference to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, "How do we beat the bitch?"

Judging by this picture* -- taken on Oct. 5 on Mickle Hill Road in Warren County, Pa., by Maryland resident Kurt Kolaja, who was attending a wedding in the area -- the McCain campaign is tapping into an even more unsavory strain of anger within the electorate.

Or how about this one, taken just down the road by Kolaja's daughter?

We've seen the destructive power of words. Remember when right-wing elements of the Grand Old Party stoked anti-government paranoia with talk of black helicopters enforcing Washington regulations? The party's blind-eye assent to this ended on April 19, 1995, when Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols blew up Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and injuring more than 800 others. According to a New York Times article that year: "Three specific events confirmed Mr. McVeigh's view of a runaway government out to take his guns: the Ruby Ridge raid (Aug. 22, 1992); Waco (April 19, 1993), and the passage of the Brady Bill in November 1993, mandating a five-day waiting period for the purchase of guns."

Now, I'm not saying that it's wrong to ask questions about Obama's relationship, such as it was, with Bill Ayers. Or with Tony Rezko or with Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Just as it wouldn't be inappropriate to raise questions about McCain's association with G. Gordon Liddy, the convicted Watergate burglar whose colorful history includes telling listeners to his radio show in 1994 to shoot federal agents in the head. When McCain went on Liddy's radio show in November 2007, he told Liddy, "I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family... It's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."

The candidates' associations with these people, and their responses to questions about them, give you a view into their judgment. But at a time of great economic uncertainty -- so uncertain that the smartest people in the world are scratching their heads about what to do -- whipping up anger rather than reaching for solutions is not what's needed.

In his column today, my colleague Charles Krauthammer writes that Obama's character "remains highly suspect." And he ends by saying, "There is a difference between temperament and character." This past week, by ginning up an anger and resentment on the campaign trail that should leave all with a cold chill running through their bodies, McCain has shown neither presidential temperament nor character.

The New York Daily News reported this week that a "top McCain strategist" said, "It's a dangerous road, but we have no choice. If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we're going to lose."

If they keep doing what they're doing, they'll deserve to lose.

* (UPDATE 10.20.08) An alert reader from Bozeman, Mont., flagged the possibility that the first homemade sign could be touting the candidacy of Mary Jo White, a Republican in the Pennsylvania State Senate who represents part of Warren County and is running for reelection. That may be. But, as the other sign shows, there is very real anger and racism being expressed out of the media glare.

By Jonathan Capehart  | October 10, 2008; 12:27 PM ET
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McCain deserves to lose period! He is an American disgrace! Respect his POW status, but it ends right there. He is a vandictive, angry little troll, that is so desperate to win, he violates the very core of what "presidential behavior" should be!

Posted by: not-me | October 10, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm concerned that McCain and Palin, in trying to energize their base, are actually stoking up the fringe elements of the extreme right wing and exposing their own lack of substantive ideas (and, in Palin's case, an appalling lack of substance). In doing so, they have succeeded in alienating more moderate voters like me. I'll be voting for intelligent policies, respect and optimism--I'm voting for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: BarbarainFlorida | October 10, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

That picture is very ugly. Someone should be ashamed of themselves. McCain and Palin should be denouncing such sentiments. Instead, they are fanning the flames. Country first, my eye. Thanks for exposing it to a national spotlight.

Posted by: SarahBB | October 10, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Because there are no adults in the Republican Party and if any of the Dems complain they are ‘protecting’ Obama, it is up the fifth estate and the American public to condemn this current McCain policy of inciting anger and fueling the flames of resentment in the GOP base. Folks, we are in very dangerous territory here when there are shouts of ‘kill him’ and other insults being thrown around at these venues. I am not kidding. This scares the hell out of me. I have lived around people like this and it is NOT funny. Some one with a cool head has got to stop this madness. People are angry enough about the state of the economy and their jobs but to purposely encourage and even promote this type of race-bating, fear mongering behavior is not just wrong, it is dangerous.

Posted by: loisinthepink | October 10, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

It's clear to me who is trying to incite racial rioting here: YOU. Did you know that two men have been arrested and accused of threatening Obama's life this campaign period? Did you know both were black? No? Maybe that's because news organizations like this would rather run a picture of a SIGN in someone's yard and accuse McCain of inciting a riot!
Democrats, repeat after me: Race card, change, race card, change. Repeat as often as necessary.

Posted by: RUBY2 | October 10, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government."

That's right, EARLIER THIS YEAR Ms Palin addressed a group who admires a man who, before dying in a freak plastics explosives accident, said that.

Volger, the former leader of AIP got blown up by plastic explosives in the early '90's.
And Todd Palin was in the group for several years.

And Sarah has spoken several times at their conventions.

Conventions calling for the secession of Alaska from the US.

How very patriotic

Posted by: franglais | October 10, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

McCain is inciting the crowds at his rallies. This is becoming very dangerous, to ALL people. It is a known fact that whenever you incite crowds, there is a large probability that this will turn violent. The crowds seem to be becoming more and more unhinged, and McCain is using this to further his own agenda. It literally wouldn't take much to turn McCain's rallies into a violent situation. We do not need physical or verbal fights. We do not need mob like riots! This is a ticking time bomb, that I pray, that McCain ceases immediately. Whether we are Republican or Democratic, No ONE should want a campaign to turn so nasty that it illicits violence! Why would we even want a President who deliberately incites his people?

Posted by: KDfromOklahoma | October 10, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama True Hypocrat and Liar

Hides his previous connections with Ayers

Disowns Pastor when not needed any more(who know he can disown country too)

Can speak ( as today) but cannot vote against torture

Supporter but not follower of election reforms( words speak louder than action as is always case with Obama)

Supports Hope, Freedom but votes for Spy agencies tapping our Phone

cannot accept Surge Worked , he might be in bad position

Biden a Fool
He thinks Obama is not fit when he runs for president otherwise he is Fit

Obama is naive,has unknown family history

inexperienced like bush was in his first term.

His economic policies will ruin small business,

His health care plan will be a costly affair,

His tax plans would scare investors to other parts of world.

He speaks of alternative energy, opposed to drilling natural gas and building nuclear energy

We consume things at low price because Big corporations get tax cuts their spendign on innovations

If Big companies are taxed heavily , there will lose of jobs , loss of technical edge, higher priced commodities,higher cost of living

Mccain is attacking Root of problem mortegage Obama only wants to attach republicans he has no solid plan.

Obams lack of effectiveness showed up when he responded for russian attach on Georgia and opposition to surge

Mccain all years of experience brings balance and judgement to postion which wasnt there in Bush and Obama due to their in experience,Palen brings freshness of change and executive experience of reforms that she carried in alaska

Posted by: mrn744 | October 10, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin palling around with secessionists:

That and many more can be found by typing palin+aip+convention on youtube.

Let her speech speak for itself, when she praises their "good work" on camera.

Posted by: franglais | October 10, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

The media is really more far left now than at any time I can remember. Evidence is the selective lack of memory exhibited by authors such as this one. Remember four years ago and eight years ago? Remember the relentless pounding by the media Bush took because of his membership in the National Guard? And was that "new news"? Of course not, it was the same tactic used by the left then that we on the right are using today. Don't pretend to be alarmed now when you weren't alarmed then. What's fair is fair

Posted by: guythompto | October 10, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

As a Republican for the last 40 years I am calling on other Republicans to insist that John McCain stop this very unstable approach he is taking. I am appalled by his behavior and find it very dangerous and certainly not someone i want to entrust my beloved country to. Republicans speak out against this madness. He is not fit for the job. What a tragedy for the GOP. what a mistake we have made. vote Obama obviously as he is at least displaying the qualities of good a leader.

Posted by: rayreyns | October 10, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

The reason that McCain needs to bring these issues up again is because the main stream media didn't do their job to ask the probing questions of Obama. This man is a socialist and people are getting angry at the MSM for not showing the true Obama.

I hope that people get so mad that they can't stand to elect the "choosen one" and they tell all of their friend why he is such a bad choice for America.

It is funny that the MSM was in love with McCain when he was working against the Repubs, but now that they have the Messiah, they constantly put McCain down.

Sounds Fair and Balanced to me!! Good job CNN (Communist News Network)

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Talk about bad judgement! The Straight Talk Express went off the tracks weeks ago. The only question left is who is it going to hit as it careens wildly into America's psyche.

To the poster who thought that yard signs were irrelevant...I dont know what to say to someone like you. If you dont find that kind of thing offensive in a presidential campaign my guess is you think a noose would be just fine too.

Posted by: MarcMyWords | October 10, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

How can anyone support a person who praises a political group, AIP (Alaskan Independence Party) whose main goal is to secede from the US?

Fine, she's not a card-carrying member, but neither was Obama of the Weather Underground.

But she was not six years old when she spoke at their conventions.

This is not rumor and innuendo my friends; she looks into the camera and says "god bless you" to a group whose leader blew himself up with plastic explosives.

Posted by: franglais | October 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Comparisons to Germany in the 1930s seem appropriate: our leaders have led the nation to the brink of economic collapse and completely compromised our international standing, and now we have an insurgent national candidate trying to get elected by inciting popular fear about 'outsiders' of a different race. This isn't chilling, it's terrifying.

Posted by: jim95818 | October 10, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Ruby2, please offer credible evidence of the two black men who were allegedly arrested for threatening Senator Obama. The only arrests I've heard of took place during the Democratic National Convention in Denver -- and all those arrested appear to be white.

Posted by: kentuckienne | October 10, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

And since the link to the arrests in question didn't post:

Posted by: kentuckienne | October 10, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

For those who aren't old enough to remember the movie "The Caine Mutiny", it's the story of an aging Naval Commander and war hero, Captain Queeg (played by Humphrey Bogart), in the twilight of his career, attempting to hang on to past glory, and who is slowly losing his mind to paranoia and envy of his younger officers. One night, during a training exercise, Queeg's destroyer, the USS Caine find itself in heavy weather, and Captain Queeg panics at a moment of grave danger to the ship. His first officer, reluctantly relieves Queeg of command and saves the ship. Later, at a courts-martial for the first officer, Queeg takes the witness stand and gives testimony against him, and in a rambling diatribe against those who have been plotting against him, descends further into madness, and eventually impeaches himself before a courtroom stunned into silence.

The more I see and hear John McCaine, the more I am reminded of that film. Unfortunately, the audience for this aging and apparently desperate warrior is not seated in a courtroom, it resembles more an angry mob, with all the attendant wisdom.

Posted by: thomas777 | October 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I would make the same comparison to Germany as Jim, only it is Obama who wants the socialist society!! He is the guy who will tell you what doctor to use, gives everyone a house, next week it will be free success!! I can't wait. Obama along with Pelosi, and Reid, sounds like socialism to me!

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin have done more damage to their own party in the past week than Bush has done in the past eight years.

We have regressed into the race wars of the early part of the last century, thanks to this selfish, irresponsible ticket. It is truly frightening.

There is absolutely no way McCain will win this election, but I believe he will leave terrorist-style violence in his wake.

McCain and Palin, and everyone who is involved with their nasty campaign, should be deeply ashamed of themselves.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 10, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama may have been on the national scene for four years, but he has never allowed himself to be under anyone's microscope for very long. The normal vetting processes have not been performed by his party or by folks such as you in the media. Obama has a real dislike for personal accountability when he is the person. And there a questions aplenty. Here is one: Does his current citizenship allow him to be a US President? As you will recall, there was a media outcry regarding John McCain being born in Panama where his father was serving in the US forces, for heaven's sake. There is at this moment, a law suit pending regarding Obama's citizenship. He's bucking it at every turn while keeping mum. You in the media have too little to say about it yourselves. How dare you decide what we should and should not know about the man who would be president?

Posted by: PamelaofthePoconos | October 10, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

McCain is breaking promises even before getting elected!

We all remember him talking about staying on the high road, uniting the country and yada yada, yada.

Now, all the tires on the Straight talk express are flat, the rims are ground square.

McCain has been trying to get elected president for about a decade, and he knows this is his last shot.

It is actually tragic to see him stoop lower than anyone in any recent election, but the corner he has painted himself into is of his own doing.

He thought this election would be about Iraq. When it became about the economy, he was so inflexible, he had no "Plan B." Worse, he could not see the economic crisis coming while many others did. It was apparent over a year ago.

Now, he grasps at straws and strawmen.

For the majority of voters... his inability to respond to change or find positive directions to take the country in -to lead- is obvious.

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 10, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin are trying to divide the nation by inciting hate and racial bigotry. I hope they’re prepared to be responsible for the unrest that will fall upon America Should anything happen to OBAMA. I can never vote for a person that promotes hate.

America wants to know why aren’t McCain, Cindy and Palin spending more time addressing the economy issue????… My guess is the economy doesn’t matter to them

Posted by: norcomspe | October 10, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

This was a pellet gun but was in London where real guns are illegal.

Man shot for wearing Obama T-shirt

Posted by: ToddMSmyth | October 10, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

The stock market tumbles, savings lost, financial economy in ruin, disastrous war, banks and other private companies nationalized, politicians speaking emotionally to crowds, chanting "kill," "they are not like us," and a big propaganda media. Could be the U.S. in 2009. But we have seen this movie before. Hint #1: 70 years ago. Hint #2: Germany. Hint #3: National Socialism. Get it? The Republican Party and Faux News are playing the Nazi Germany movie. The party which used to be in favor of personal freedom, small government, no foreign entanglements, fiscal conservatism is now sponsoring torture and kangaroo courts (Military Commissions Act) , unwarranted wiretapping and shredding of our Constitution (Patriot Acts), disastrous foreign adventurism (occupation of Iraq), and nationalization of banks (Wall Street Bailout). And now to cap it off, McCain and Palin are rabble-rousing crowds, getting them to chant "kill." Wake up America: The Republicans are the new Nazis.

Posted by: lorax2 | October 10, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Capeharts article is eplosive, disgusting, and contrived. Racial propaganda designed to disrupt, denigrate, and discredit John McCain. I don't think this article has any merit whatever and is pure garbage!
Candidates meed to run on their records, the issues, and what is best for all Americans. The cheap shots about playing the race cards by Obama people only divides, subtracts and creats chaos.
The bombastic critical government remarks and opinions coming from the Obama campaign are sick and disgusting lies.

Posted by: USDefender | October 10, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

The media are leftist? Fox News? ABC Disney? Rush? Every AM talk show host? I'm bewildered by that. Why aren't they screaming about Palin's seccesionist views? Why don't they mention the prominent Republicans who were on that board Obama and Ayres shared? Why don't the reiterate which party's philosophy of dergulation that got us into this mess?

Posted by: chroma601 | October 10, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

McCain is losing control. He cannot accept defeat. What does that tell you about the Iraq situation?
He will escalate the war, escalte the costs and we won't capture bin laden in Iraq.
McCain is inciting the crowds to the point of violence.
McCain is a dangerous man, and cannot be allowed to lead our country into chaos.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 10, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, lets talk about broken promises and lies too.

Obama said, I will take Government funds, oh, no I won't

Obama said, I will get the troop out right now, no, now its at least 18 months

Obama said, I won't drill, no, now I will

Obama said, No Nuclear, no, now its OK

Obama said, The bailout will fix things right away, no, no help yet.

Obama said, no taxes on the middle class, lets wait and see what happens on that one.

He is a liar and a socialist, do not elect him.

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Short Sellers in the stock market are pricing in Obama's victory.


Posted by: DemocracyRules | October 10, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

And isn't McCain's unethical attempt to shield Charles Keating from the fallout of the S&L crisis germane to the discussion of his ability to "put the country first" now?

Posted by: MT11 | October 10, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I’m sick of this Ayers stuff.

We are over a trillion on bailouts so far, if you count the money given to AIG and Freddie/Fanny.

We are fighting a war on two fronts, and apparently the general in charge of Afghanistan says we are in danger of losing the war (because we dumped all of our resources into starting a way in Iraq.

And I get to hear about stuff some dude did when Obama was 8 years old who Obama would later have tangential contact with (along with lots of other politicians in Chicago, both Republican and Democrat).

I call red herring on McCain. The guy is all over the place since he selected Palin. He needs to focus on relevant matters now. This approach of his is dishonorable and disappointing. Isn't this the same tactics Bush used against him in 2000?

Posted by: TallRicky | October 10, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Whatever respect I had for McCain is vanished. The man is either going senile or wants the job of president so bad that he's willing to do whatever it takes to claim it. It really does amaze me that he is allowing all the crazies to shout out things like "terrorist" and "kill him" but not admonishing them in VERY STRONG LANGUAGE that that is unacceptable. John McCain, you need to retire and go stay at one of your 8 or 9 houses, and reflect on how far you have fallen.

And the argument about how he isn't a hate-monger, as it is Palin who is saying most of the inflammatory stuff, is just BS. If McCain can't rein in his running mate hockey mom who is really just GW Bush in drag, how the heck is he going to run a country? I really think that Palin is pushing the line on inciting violence with her speeches to her hate-filled fans. Doesn't sound very Christian to me...

Posted by: denisicle | October 10, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

MT11, you should look up your facts on the Keating issue. He did put his country first even then under intense pressure.

Look it up and get your facts!

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

The most destructive elements of the McCain/Palin campaign are resulting in massive, self-destruction right before our eyes. The hate stirred up is a boomerang, and it is destroying those who are playing for it.

While I am one who supports construction and not destruction, there is a certain pleasure in seeing that the laws of cause and effect remain immutable.

- Arye Michael Bender -

Posted by: AryeDirect | October 10, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

"You in the media have too little to say about it yourselves. How dare you decide what we should and should not know about the man who would be president?"

Wake up.

This is the age of Google. This is the age of being able to instantly pull up primary sources and fact check.

The media decides nothing. They publish stories anyone can investigate on their own.

Only those that mindlessly absorb propaganda that outlets like Faux News spews forth are constrained by the media anymore.

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 10, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

So the point of your article is that Ayers,Jesse Jackson,Rezko,Rev Wright,Barney Frank,Mayor Daley,the Chicago Democratic machine are comparable to G Gordon Liddy.You should be writing comic books.

What a joke.

Posted by: sparad | October 10, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

It's clear to me who is trying to incite racial rioting here: YOU. Did you know that two men have been arrested and accused of threatening Obama's life this campaign period? Did you know both were black? No? Maybe that's because news organizations like this would rather run a picture of a SIGN in someone's yard and accuse McCain of inciting a riot!
Democrats, repeat after me: Race card, change, race card, change. Repeat as often as necessary.

Posted by: RUBY2 | October 10, 2008 2:18 PM

I have no doubt that there are African American idiots, too. But that does NOT mean that the Democrats are playing the race card. You Republican neocons need to get beaten in this election, and you will be!

YOU are the racist here. YOU are one of those that thinks it's okay to incite violence. Shame on YOU!

Posted by: lassair | October 10, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Palin's husband is a seperatist(AIP), and McCain is seemingly a sexist & a racist. Look for their new advertising with the Confederate flag, stars & bars proudly displayed. Is it just me, or does this ugly joke sound more and more like Nazi Germany?

Posted by: crossroadsnow | October 10, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I suppose we should be highly suspicious of the "journalist" Charles Krauthammer now, too. After all, he has a German name. He must be a Nazi and he OBVIOUSLY believes in the Nazi White-Supremacist Ideology.

Oh wait, you say he's JEWISH? Oh......well that changes things. You should be even MORE ashamed of yourself, Charles. There is NO EXCUSE for you fanning the flames here.... PUN INTENDED TO BRING BACK HORRIBLE HOLOCAUST MEMORIES, LEST WE FORGET.

I am VERY suspicious of you, Charles. You make the skin crawl on the back of my neck. And I am a white Montana cowgirl. I keep a loaded 410 shotgun under my bed....

Is THIS what our country has degenerated into?

I just took a deep breath and calmed down. I will be proudly voting for Obama in November. I just sent his campaign some more of my $, too.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 10, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but several death threat suspects were arrested before the Democratic National Convention, and all the suspects were white. They all cited racist motives in wanting to kill Obama. Plus, I've seen footage from rallies held by McCain and Palin and am pretty sure that those who shouted "Kill him" were white. Not too many African-Americans flock to see the GOP. I'm sorry you are so misinformed. Do you need to see a thousand "Vote right, vote white" signs before you acknowledge that racism still exists? For me, one is enough.

Posted by: lcdvans | October 10, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Thank you for putting it so well.
It is indeed a very dark and chilling road that McCain/Palin are going down. I once thought McCain was an honorable man. But I have learned throughout this campaign how very wrong I was.

It is pathetic that he has nothing to offer this country other than hate speech and vicious attacks. How dare he question Obama's patriotism when he is willing to take this country down that "dangerous" path in the midst of one of the worst financial crisis this country (and this world) has ever faced. He is the one whose patriotism needs to be questioned!

Posted by: june54 | October 10, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Fox News is the most unbiased source of news! If you don't think so, watch it for a week, then go back to CNN, ABC, CBS, etc. you will then see the bias. If you look up their stories yourself, you will see that they don't put anywhere near the bias, that the MSM does.

There is a reason why their viewership is higher than any other cable news source, and on some shows higher than the regular networks.

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse


There were also 3 white men arrested for threatening Obama in Denver. Those signs should make you sick, but i guess you are so into the GOP you dont see it. I would be sick if i saw a sign that said Vote black or called McCain a baby killer because of the Vietnam war. Wake up..........

Posted by: rharring | October 10, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

It would be worth looking into Sarah Palin's relationship, or lack thereof, if that's the case, with the Aryan Nation, the white supremacist group in North Idaho that had its "compound" not far from North Idaho College, where Sarah went to school.

Posted by: dave38 | October 10, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Very good article, come on lets be real. The liberal media has not done the investigative job on Mr. Obama that they would normally do on any other candidate. Fear keeps you from doing your job. Fear that the Republicans are going to get an edge, Fear that you are being to critical of an african american candidate thereby making this a race issue, Fear that the truth hurts. Do your job, investigate!Just because Mr McCain decides to report the facts is no reason to blame him for what a country full of nut jobs may or may not do. Our news is full of nut cases on a daily basis, daily, long before this election got underway. Again , do your job, investigate.

Posted by: signsrus | October 10, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

It is true every internet savvy voter observer can access St. Petersburg Times Fact Check Truth-o-Meter and other fact checking sources. There are errors and distortions flying around like summer gnats. It is disturbing that they are now aiming at the rage of the disappointed and prejudiced voters. That is something like terrorism in itself, seeking to convert fears and hardtimes to rage and revenge times. That's not entirely new on the planet but it's the first time in presidential campaigning. It's a new low.

Posted by: GaiasChild | October 10, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I have a simple and direct question for a McCain/Plain supporter. why isnt Sarah Plain pregant in these photos when her baby was supposedly born on April 18, 2008.




Posted by: Dano111 | October 10, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Think of McCain's campaign as like the US war effort in Iraq two years back. Insurgents were getting in some good shots and Democrats were using troop casualty rates as a tool to gain their current Congressional majorities. Then the US army tried the surge, and within months things had turned around. On a much more compressed time scale McCain will turn around this election. In spite of being outspent 3-1, McCain/Palin are getting across to the majority of Americans the idea that Barry doesn't care how he wins, so long as he does. Bringing voter attention to Barry's creepy Chicago friends is no less legitimate than Demoids harping on Jack Abramoff in 2006. But I think what will finally drive the voters away from Barry at the zero hour will be the spreading ACORN voter registration scandal, which is a vicious, well organized attempt by blacks and radical chic whites to disenfranchise the white middle class.

Posted by: greg3 | October 10, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

In all probability, those people "screaming inflammatory words at the very mention of Obama's name. Words like "terrorist" and "Kill him!" and "treason." are Obama supporters SENT BY THE OBAMA political machine! This is ACORN stype, Alinsky style, Bill Ayers style all the way.
Though totally unscroupulous, by sending them to so scream, the Obama camp tries to discredit the huge, crowded and successful rallies, and also gets to brand the McCain camp as extremists. Note how the cooperating media is there ready to capture the whole thing, just in case it ignites. Of course even if it doesn't, which it won't since the rally people are almost all typical, down home, peaceful Americans, there is always Capeheart here to make sure the money spent paying for those hecklers is not totally wasted!

Posted by: mbogart | October 10, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

McCain is finished-- you know it, I know it, I bet even Bob Dole knows it. He has nothing to offer on the economic mess and has absolutely no choice but to try to scare people away from Obama with insignificant petty drivel. How pathetic.

Posted by: worthin2 | October 10, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama’s campaign is conducting a master-level seminar in how to shout down your opposition on a legitimate point. On Monday at Coachman Park in Clearwater, Florida, Gov. Palin spoke at an outdoor rally to an estimated crowd of 4,500. Later that day, a single – that means just one – Washington Post blog writer [not as a news reporter], Dana Milbanks, wrote that when Palin raised Ayers name, an unidentified person shouted “kill him.” Milbanks did not say whether the shouter was referring to Ayers or Obama, or even whether the shouter was a Palin supporter [maybe that’s too suspicious on my part – I know the Obama campaign would never plant anyone in the crowd to do something like that]. There was not a single other local media report of this – not in the liberal St. Pete Times, the Tampa Tribune, not on NBC Ch.8, ABC Ch. 28, CBS Ch. 10, Local Cable Bay News 9 until a Tampa Tribune article this morning 4 days later BASED SOLELY UPON THE MILBANK BLOG.

Of course, this got the blogosphere going – shortly thereafter bloggers were condemning McCain/Palin for giving speeches attempting to incite people to kill Obama. They demanded that Palin should have stopped her speech and renounced the shouter. Of course, this assumes the remark was made and that Palin heard it. And if Palin heard it, one might assume that her Secret Service detail heard it. The Tampa Tribune reported today that the Secret Service did not have any witnesses to the remark although they are now investigating it. Maybe I’m naïve, but such a remark would have been treated with the same welcomeness as a joke about a bomb in that TSA screening line. The arrest of the shouter would have been plastered on the above-mentioned media outlets.

Two days later, Biden opens the newest Democratic talking point – Palin’s criticism of Obama’s association with Ayers is “mildly dangerous.” AP picks this up and mentions the 48-hour old alleged “kill him” remark and attributes it to “a report in the Washington Post.” Mind you, this was a blog article, not a report in the real Washington Post news section. So, the single, unverified blog report is now used to corroborate Biden’s assertion that Palin’s remarks about Ayers and Obama are “dangerous.” It’s also now in this blog.

But hold on, what’s the real point? Palin and others dared to question Obama’s association with Ayers. Remember, Obama’s first disingenuous answer to whether he knew Ayers was that Ayers was just “a guy in his neighborhood.” Of course, this is incredibly misleading. In roughly 1995, Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn [another charter member of the Weather Underground who played a more active role than Ayers] actually hosted a small fundraiser for Obama’s first political campaign at their house [in the neighborhood I guess]. The next line of defense has been that Obama was only 8 when Ayers was bombing national landmarks. Does that matter really? Ok, at the fundraiser in 1995, Obama was about 31, and in 2001, when Ayers refused to renounce his Weathermen activities and said he had wished they had done even more, Obama was about 37. Does that also mean that 37 years after 9/11 [37 years from the Weathermen bombings in 1971 to the present], it’ll be ok to go hang out with Osama bin Laden?

They further say Ayers is “rehabilitated.” How? Is there a Center for Terrorist Rehabilitation that offers certification of the same? Maybe that’s just MSNBC or CNN. Actually, Ayers’ father was a wealthy executive with Con-Ed and very close with the Daley political machine [remember “vote early and often”]. Understandably as a father, he went to huge lengths to reestablish his son – probably not hard to do with the aid of the Daley machine.

The last and most malicious defense is that criticism of Obama’s association with Ayers is somehow racist. This is difficult to address because it is laughably illogical yet a hot button issue. How is mentioning Osama’s being less than forthright about his association with a white terrorist racist? Taking it to the extreme, every single criticism of Obama is necessarily racist because Obama is black. Ask the Clintons if Obama played the race card in this manner in the primaries. As I said, this is a master level seminar in how to shout down your opponent.

Posted by: tampalawyer | October 10, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

LOL, I love when liberals at the Washington Putz start to get nervous about more truth coming out for their candidate. No more questioning about Ayers, Wright, Pfleger, Odinga, mystery radical #5...Too bad, got a feeling the hits will keep on coming!!! LOL

Posted by: dcsackers2 | October 10, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I laugh at that one! Faux News is the most unbiased? Please! It's just that they match your personal bias, so you don't see it. It's just your perspective.

Posted by: chroma601 | October 10, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

You wake up daily to what appears to be the collapse of the American Capitalist Empire. Deep down, you know things will get worse before they get better. Rome is burning after 8 years of Neoconservative rule and what do the Republicans want to talk about and who are they targeting? They are running a three pronged assault on the American soul: (1) In rural and small town middle America they are stirring racial resentment, painting Obama as a terrorist and (2) in Florida and other pockets of Jewish concentration, they are targetting the Jewish Community, through RJC (Republican Jewish Coalition) and right wing PACS stokingn Jewish fear of Obama's "muslim" ties. (see RJC Watch) and (3) they are engaged in ongoing voter suppression efforts in minority communities in battleground states.What this is reminiscent of is at least three periods in history: (1) the Salem Witch Trials (2) the rise of the KKK during the Confederacy and (3) Nazi Germany: as Jon Stewart has said about McCain/Palin rally's "Have you noticed how [Palin's] rallies have begun to take on the characteristics of the last days of the Weimar Republic?" This is not a joke. As the open up old wounds and tear apart the American psyche, be careful, some of use will NEVER FORGET what McCain/Palin are doing right now.

Posted by: LondonInNY | October 10, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Now if Obama was as sure of himself as the Washington Post is I might vote for him! I really don't think he has the backbone to stand up to the ominous powers in this world that would love nothing more than to see us destroyed. Also, I really hate that top picture...nothing uglier than true bigotry, which reminds me, that the majority of the voting population of blacks is voting for Obama because he is half black... Humm

Posted by: dlennis | October 10, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

McCain also has ties to the Mafia as well: Joe "Bananas" Bonanno, the notorious Mafia Don that was one of the models for Mario Puzo's Godfather character...

Bonanno relocated to Tucson, Arizona. He actually invited McCain to his 90th birthday bash. While McCain didn't attend the party, he sent his regrets via RSVP.

Apparently McCain felt he couldn't just IGNORE the invitation, as any HONORABLE man would have done.

The reason you haven't heard about all of McCain's shady associations YET is because Obama is taking the high road. That may very well change if McCain keeps this negativity up...

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 10, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

McCain is doing the MSM job. The NYTimes has disgraced itself with a whitewash of the Ayers connection. (This is the paper whose "journalists" gave us the Iraq war) Hillary Clinton tried to raise the alarm but the sexism was so rampant no one would listen. I'm glad McCain and Palin are rasing the issue. I hope they bring ACORN and its connection to Fannie and Freddie to light. A Cleveland paper has proof of Obama's early connections to ACORN, which he has denied. And why isn't there any investigation of ACORN's funding by the Federal Government? McCain is doing the country a service by asking the questions a fawning media won't.

Posted by: thinkagain1 | October 10, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I think I know why our economy is going downhill. It's not Bush's economic policy, nor is it McCain's campaigning or Obama's proposed new tax program. It's because too many of us are spending too much time blogging about the upcoming election, who we hate, why, etc. I wonder what would happen to our GDP if we all just decided to vote for whichever candidate we wanted and then went back to work......

Posted by: Boomer54 | October 10, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Desperation is so obvious here. These right wingers posting here are soiling their pants. Realdatalsbest is dangerous and incrediably stupid. Put him back in his pen where he can't hurt anyone.

Posted by: truthseeker13 | October 10, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Pamela, there is also a lawsuit challenging McCain's citizenship. He has not produced a birth certificate. Obama has.

But more importantly, is this really what you care about right now? Do you really believe in all of these trumped up conspiracies? Do you really think Fox News--in the 20 months Obama has been on the campaign trail--has failed to look into his "associations"?

You're just upset because they haven't found what you wanted them to find. We could all go on and on about the candidates' associates. Check out McCain's past, why don't you?

Again, this stuff is not the point. Can we stop all of this nonsense and get back to talking about what these candidates are going to *do* about the many messes we are in?

Posted by: ethel08 | October 10, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

If you were Barack Obama, how would you respond?

Here's what Obama said this morning:

"I know these are difficult times. I know folks are worried. But I believe that we can steer ourselves out of this crisis because I believe in this country. Because this is the United States of America. This is a nation that has faced down war and depression; great challenges and great threats. And at each and every moment, we have risen to meet these challenges – not as Democrats, not as Republicans, but as Americans. With resolve. With courage.

We have seen our share of hard times. The American story has never been about things coming easy – it’s been about rising to the moment when the moment is hard; about rejecting panicked division for purposeful unity; about seeing a mountaintop from the deepest valley. That’s why we remember that some of the most famous words ever spoken by an American came from a President who took office in a time of turmoil – “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”

Now is not the time for fear. Now is not the time for panic. Now is the time for resolve and steady leadership. We can meet this moment. We can come together to restore confidence in the American economy. We can renew that fundamental belief – that in America, our destiny is not written for us, but by us. That’s who we are, and that’s the country we need to be right now.

America still has the most talented, most productive workers of any country on Earth. You know this, Ohio. We’re home to the workers who have built the largest middle class in history. We’re home to workers who work two jobs or three jobs and take the last bus home at night because they want something more for their children. We’re home to innovation and technology, colleges and universities that are the envy of the world. Some of the biggest ideas in history have come from our small businesses and our research facilities. It won’t be easy, but there’s no reason we can’t make this century another American century. Yes we can."

Barack Obama He must have been tempted to join McCain in the gutter politics of the Republican campaign.

Instead, he went to the mountain top. I know which way I'm going to go. I'm not spending the next 4 years in the gutter.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 10, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Once again, more finger pointing by the Demolibs. Don't you ever wonder why GW Bush was re-elected ? Because you do nothing but blame the GOP for ALL the problems without offering a single solution. I'll give up four years with Obama as President to prove this point. It really is interesting that it is fine for Demolibs to call GW Bush the devil and act out in destructive demonstrations but because McCain refuses to call attention to a moron, he is wrong. Disgusting.

Posted by: BigT1 | October 10, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I am a liberal and a democrat. But, I want the president of my country to be selected based on merits, and not by an overwhelming bias, and propaganda. I don't understand why the media (almost all of them) and liberal-leaning papers like WP, NY Times, LA Times, Boston Globe, etc jump all over, when William Ayers or Tony Rezko's connections with Barack Obama is discussed. After all, if Obama does not have anything to worry, is it not welcome that this thing comes out in the open. Should Obama be protected from any criticism? Didn't the media push us into the Iraq War? They failed us once, and fail us again. In 2000 election, it was painful for me to see the media glowing over Bush as the savior of White House's "integrity" and "morality". We know what we got. Now, it is the media's turn to brainwash everyone into believing Obama has done nothing wrong, and will do none. Please don't push your agenda on us. If there is a story about Obama and Ayers, investigate it, explain it. Don't attack those who bring it in the open. In fact, before Palin talked about it or Clinton brought it, the media should have done that. We don't believe in Hannity. We want YOU to do it for us. Ask Obama why he associated with Ayers, Wright, and Rezko so long and in so much depth. Let the world know what he has to say. Don't push Obama into the White House. Let him earn it. We deserve that, and you (the news media) need to earn that respect, by asking tough questions to Obama too. Don't be a propaganda machine for any party or any candidate. The reason I am a Democrat is because of the dislike I have for right-wing loud mouths. We don't need left-wing cover-up machines. If you believe Obama is good, he'll come out clean. BUT DON'T COVER IT UP.

Posted by: ronniesmith123 | October 10, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't Mclame go all the way? "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!"

Posted by: whereareweandwhatarewedoinginthishandbasket | October 10, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

chroma601, I bet you have never watched Fox! If you read/watch the news stories, not the opinion, then fact check it, not on CNN, you will see that Fox is very factual.

You won't watch though because you can't see the bias in CNN, because you are a lib. I had a coworker of mine watch Fox and compare and he determined that Fox was less biased than CNN, and he is a big liberal.

Good watching!

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Dont Respect McCains war record. Its not as great as you might think.

He was code named the "Song Bird" Why?

Because he spilled his guts to the vietnamese to avoid torture. He was actually never tortured and is not very popular with other POWs.

He recieved special treatment for his cooperation with the communists and denounced the united states.

I for one can see thru his many lies.

Thats why im voting Obama.

Posted by: stanmart | October 10, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey whereareweandwhatarewedoinginthishandbasket, do you know that segregation was started and supported by dems?? Look it up!

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

And if by chance Obama loses, either the election was rigged or all white Americans who did not vote for him are racist. He was the one who brought up the race issue initially. Don't you remember his comment that "I don't look like the President on the dollar bill". At that point the McCain camp had not made any reference to race at all. Easy how all forget Obama's statement "they will try and scare you because I don't look like the Presidents on our dollar bills". If this columnist had any proof that could substantiate his claim that the McCain camp is behind any of this he should put it right out there.

Posted by: Jazzman47 | October 10, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

stanmart, I think that you are the scum of the earth. Only an idiot would write what you did. I break your arms and see what I can get you to tell me!

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I once respected and admired McCain as some of the positive things he claims to be. No longer. Regardless of who within his campaign is dictating this dangerous, irresponsible and reprehensible shift in tactics, it is McCain who is responsible and SHOULD be standing up against it and showing he's a leader, not a desperate and pathetic fear-monger on the brink of destroying an otherwise respectable career and legacy and betraying the country and people he claims to love.

p.s. my parody Sarah Palin Sings Popular at lampoons him and his "crony" Governor Palin. 13k hits on youtube in a week, and counting...

Posted by: gnormb | October 10, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

RUBY2,take a closer look at just who is playing the race card. Which campaign has people in the audience yell killing him????? I’m sure that is what you Republicans’ are hoping will happen.

Being uneducated is a sign of pure ignorance.

Posted by: norcomspe | October 10, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I heard a panel of three female GOP strategists yesterday talk about Palin on CNN.

One of them said that Palin is being horribly misused by the McCain campaign. Insiders have told her that Palin is treated with the same respect as a secretary and being sent out on the campaign with the most disgusting talking points.

Palin may be sacrificing her political career for her 15 minutes of fame.

Posted by: JRM2 | October 10, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm old enough to remember those years - what happened to the poor revolutionaries (Black Panthers) and what the rich kids like Ayer got away with - let's say it clearly - murder (policemen and armored car guards).

We live in a strange world where because you are rich you can say you have no regrets AND be supported by the ultra liberal "polically correct" elite.

It is the New Yorker article Making It
How Chicago shaped Obama. July 21, 2008 (NOT a Republican mag):

"However, the campaign was no insurgency. Obama abided by the local way of doing things. He had lined up support from Preckwinkle, his alderman, and Ivory Mitchell, the local ward chairman, and Palmer’s endorsement brought with it two organizational assets: local operators and local activists. The operators helped Obama get on the ballot and handled the mechanics of his election. .... Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, another activist Hyde Park couple, also held an event for Obama. Forty years ago, Ayers and Dohrn were leaders of the Weathermen, the militant antiwar group that bombed the Pentagon and the United States Capitol. By the time Obama met Ayers, the former radical and onetime fugitive had been accepted into polite Chicago society and had been reborn as an education expert, eventually working as an informal adviser to Mayor Daley. (Those ties remain intact in the jumbled culture of Chicago politics. When Obama’s association with Ayers first became a campaign issue, Daley, whose father, in 1968, sent his police force into the streets to combat Ayers’s fellow-radicals, issued a statement praising Ayers as “a valued member of the Chicago community.”)

Posted by: CH-ican | October 10, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats ran on change 2 years ago took over the house and senate.

Since then the housing market has crashed, banks are going under, businesses are shutting down, unemployment is up, stock market is going down the tubes. Guess you can call that change, but I doubt this is the type of change people where voting for. Can't wait until Obummer is elected & we get even more of the same type of change.

Of course all we will hear from the Democrats for the next 4 years, while they drive us into a full depression, is "It's all Bush's fault!"

As for me, I've already taken steps to secure my assets over the next 4 years. I'll minimize my taxable income to avoid the Obummer tax increases & I'm going to cut expenses to as little as possible.

Then I'm going to sit back & say "I TOLD YOU SO" to all the people whining about the Obummer tax increases, the high unemployment, etc.

Posted by: Obummer | October 10, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Fox fair and balanced???

Ok now i have heard it all.

Bill O is 100 percent conservative. Hannity. OMG.

Posted by: stanmart | October 10, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

The "Dangerous" ad that the McCain campaign is running is truly inciting negative reactions from those looking for an excuse to show their bias. McCain needs to stop these ads- his campaign is wholly responsible for this hate speech.

Posted by: theresevick | October 10, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not the one who made McCain say "The fundamentals of the economy are strong".

McCain can only be mad at himself.

Posted by: JRM2 | October 10, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

It's too late. They deserve to lose, and they must lose. People say they'll leave the country if we get Bush III- we may have Civil War, Cold War, Nuclear War if McCain/Palin I are elected.

"Character?" Look in the mirror, McCain- the man who sold his soul. And it wasn't to God.

Posted by: auramac | October 10, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

For someone who puts so much emphasis on personal honor, McCain has now become completely dishororable because of his unwillingness to distance himself from the horrible behavior of some of his supporters. An honorable man would not turn a blind eye to shouts of "kill him" coming from their supporters. Nor would a honorable man stand by quietly while their "warm-up act" repeatedly uses Senator Obama's middle name as a racial slur. I hope that American voters will not stand for this behavior from a presidential candidate and show their disapproval at the ballot box. I think David Brooks had it right, Palin is a cancer to the Republican Party, however, McCain has now proven that he is little better.

Posted by: rswbass | October 10, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

McCain gambled that market de-regulation would be good for America and lost. He gambled that Sarah Palin would attract women voters to his party and lost again. He gambled that making negative attacks against Obama on TV and in the debates would win votes and lost again. Now he's gambling that that the bigotry and ignorance of his rapidly diminishing base can save his faltering campaign. It won't.

Posted by: ThePhotogsBlog | October 10, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

After reading some on the American Independence Party, I am beginning to get a feeling that what may be going on here is an attempt to get the public's attention diverted from looking deeply into the ideology of the Palin's. I don't necessarily fault people from being opportunistic, but if they are of that "bent" it is often hard to discover all of their true motives or how they really will react if given an opportunity to work out all of their desires. If Gov Palin has a secret fantasy about turning America into something along the lines of what the leader of the Amer. Independence Party might be in favor of, then the American people had better be concerned. Gov. Palin seems to have fallen into this VP running mate position. Just how opportunistic is she? Where would she lead the country if she had to take over as president? She might be more of a threat than bin Lauden to this nation, and I think it's time we vetted her throughly before it is too late.

Posted by: commoner3 | October 10, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

What McCain is doing borders on hate crimes.

Posted by: JWoode | October 10, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

The Brady Bill 5 day waiting period expired in 1998 with the advent of the NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check System) managed by the FBI.

And you can put lipstick on a moron and have a moron with lipstick. What color is McSame wearing today? Between McSame and Palin they can't muster a room temperature IQ.

Posted by: AbolhassanBaniSadr | October 10, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

dlennis: Watching Obama over the past few years has been a real treat. NO, he ain't perfect by a long shot, but this man has endured the type of intense scrutiny and insults that no other modern politician EVER has.... all because of his race.

He has been called every racial epithet, every type of Un-American insult, and he is STILL standing with a type of dignity that you and your ilk could never muster in a million years.

I am SO proud of him. He is truly a MAN OF THE PEOPLE. And lest you forget, he is half-white too!! He is one of us, ALL of us, and we will be PROUD to have him as our next President.

DO not forget that this man is favored WORLD-WIDE. The McCain/Palin ticket is an international laughingstock!! If that isn't important to you, it should be. We live in a global society and a global economy. How sophomoric of you people to think otherwise.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 10, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I've seen the videos now of the McCain/Palin rallies in places like Ohio and Pennsylvania. Not a pretty picture. But it needs to be seen. This is the Republican party, naked and exposed. Go to youtube if you haven't yet. You will see images of vicious, sneering, hateful people, whipped into a foaming at the mouth frenzy. It's hard to believe that you're not looking at some sinister footage from 1950s Mississippi.

Posted by: 1180 | October 10, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Most of these McCain/Palin supporters are extremely uninformed people who are brainwashed by right-wing talk radio and Fox news which both have the agenda of deceiving naive people to vote for Republicans. And I mean quite literally "brainwashed." These people have been programmed with hatred and fear directed at anyone who isn't part of the Nixon Crime Family.

Posted by: randygrenier | October 10, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, there will be many who will vote against Barack Obama because of his color, yes, without listening to him at all...and only listening to propaganda and reading silly Muslim emails.

I am a Mississipian. Our state has the reputation of being one of the most racist in the union. It is ironic that a sign like the one in this article would NOT be tolerated by whites or blacks here.

Think back on Hoover and FDR. Hoover ran his campaign on fear. FDR on hope. (Come to think of Bush used fear to try to get us all to hate the Middle East...and there we have it with people now fearful of Muslims.)

I am annoyed with McCain for choosing Palin over the many able-bodied women (if he wanted to have a woman) in the Republican party that he could have chosen to run with. However, he chose to pick someone to *shake things up* with no regard as to what we will all be left with (Palin) if he were to become incapacitated.

I am also disappointed at his low-road politics.

It it my hope the American people that have personal prejudices will put them aside and take the leap to support Barack and Michelle Obama.

I am a white, former Republican in a red state. When I hear Obama speak...I can actually get choked up. I look forward to his leadership, if he is allowed to serve...and what I percieve to be four years of *fireside chats*...Obama style.

Posted by: Sidda | October 10, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

JRM2, do you know what the fundamentals are? I bet you don't know that we are not in a recession, or even what the definition is. Also the fundamentals are low inflation, low interest rates, low unemployment, and GDP growth. If McCain had the balls, he would just say facts are facts.

This bailout calmed the markets right down like they said it was right? I guess the government knows best. Elect the socialist, Barack Hussein Obama

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Shame on McCain for trying to hustle cheap political points with simple people. It's obvious who McCain is pandering to with these references to terrorism and picking Palin as VP. He's pandering to ignorant "small town" folk who are too stupid to realize that it is actually in their best interest to vote for Obama. Have you seen these people on TV? You would think that the Democrats controlled the government for the past 8 years. They obviously have no idea of what is going on right now and in the past.

Mrn744, the Republicans should have picked you as VP instead of Palin since you spout their BS talking points so effortlessly.

Posted by: JurisDr | October 10, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Video of McCain supporters in Ohio eagerly admitting they think Obama is a terrorist immediately after a McCain-Palin event:

Republicans are such ignorant, racist garbage. But they're awfully good at loving power and money.

Posted by: pierrejc2 | October 10, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign has lost any claim to moral seriousness in a very serious time. And now they are getting downright dangerous. For another take on how they started down this slippery slope, see:

Posted by: lvgaldieri | October 10, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Does Gang Violence Qualify as Terrorism?

Gov. Palin has been warning us of the danger of electing a President who "Pals around with terrorists..."

I would ask Gov. Palin how she feels about the military recruiting policies which John McCain has actively supported since 2003, and who her son may be forced to pal around with as a consequence. She might want to consider the experience of another Mom with a son in our military, Stephanie Cockrell, as reported by CBS News:

(CBS) U.S. Army Sgt. Juwan Johnson got a hero's welcome while home on leave in June of 2004.

"Not only did I love my son - but my god - I liked the man he was becoming," his mother, Stephanie Cockrell, remembers.

But that trip home was the last time his family saw him alive. When Johnson died, he wasn't in a war zone, he was in Germany.

"He had finished his term in Iraq," his mother said. "I talked to him the day before his death. He said, 'Mom, I'm in the process of discharging out. I'll be out in two weeks'."

On July 3, 2005, Sgt. Johnson went to a park not far from his base in Germany to be initiated into the 'Gangster Disciples,' a notorious Chicago-based street gang. He was beaten by eight other soldiers in a "jump-in" - an initiation rite common to many gangs.

"My son never spoke of joining a gang," Cockrell told CBS News correspondent Thalia Assuras. Johnson died that night from his injuries. His son, Juwan Jr., was born five months later.


Since 2003, the military has granted 'moral waivers' to over 125,000 enlistees. Those waivers have been, in most cases, for serious criminal activity, including significant numbers of convicted felons, many of them gang members. The FBI conducted an investigation into this subject, and here are highlights from it's report:

-- Gang-related activity in the US military is increasing and poses a threat to law enforcement officials and national security. Members of nearly every major street gang have been identified on both domestic and international military installations.

-- Some gang members may also enlist to receive weapons, combat, and convoy support training; to obtain access to weapons and explosives; or as an alternative to incarceration. Such military training could ultimately result in more organized, sophisticated, and deadly gangs, as well as an increase in deadly assaults on law enforcement officers.

-- Gang incidents involving active-duty personnel on or near US military bases nationwide include drive-by shootings, assaults, robberies, drug distribution, weapons violations, domestic disturbances, vandalism, extortion, and money laundering.


As I read this body of facts, I wonder about the scope of the damage which has been done to this country since 9/11 by our own ill-considered initiative in Iraq. If the larger goal was to deter terrorism, why are we providing combat training to thousands of gang members, and providing them access to our most sophisticated weaponry? Even more insidious, for any ordinary American contemplating enlisting in the military, the prospect of serving with comrades in arms who are also Crips, Bloods, or members of the 'Gangster Disciples' would, in my opinion, be reason enough to opt out, regardless of any other incentives there might be.

If Gov. Palin insists on continuing to warn us away from Senator Obama because of his casual association with Mr. Ayers, I think she owes us an explanation as to why we should support a candidate who's policies over the last 5 years have materially increased the potency of domestic gangs to terrorize neighborhoods all over this country.

Posted by: thomas777 | October 10, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I at least had respect for McCain. No longer. I hear you supporters talking about Ayers, but I have a list of McCain associates and questionable leadership. There was a song. He's just my baby's daddy. McCain is just and Admirals wreckless son. McCain and Palin would quiet down if the media dug into their history deeper and showed the videos daily like they do questions of Obama. Daily. Daily. Daily. Whether there is substance or not. Again, just like they do Obama.
You folks need to look up socialism because you obviously don't understand it and are tossing words around because it sounds nice. Besides. We haven't achieved TRUE democracy yet. If we did there would be no complaints by women and minorities about jobs, pay, titles, advancement. Peace!

Posted by: bbg_isback | October 10, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin are just nuts! They are encouraging people to break the law. Enciting riots, with racial remarks and people yelling "kill him". They both have secret service details, and I want to know why the secret service didn't arrest those people. It is blatanly illegal to threaten the life of anyone, but the next president is punishible by imprisonment for up to 25 yrs. Shows how low they have gone, and how far off center they are.

Don't worry people. It'll all be over soon. McCain will start taking pills with Cindy (the worst sense of fashion ever I might add) and Palin will go back to doing anal porn, something she IS good at!

Posted by: beaversrus | October 10, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

McCain sold his soul to the devil when he hired the same people who trashed him in 2000 in South Carolina. He is a vile, arrogant, angry old man, who has chosen this path for himself, losing all self-respect. The fact he says nothing in the face of all the hate surrounding his rallies is truly sad. The Senators who know him all speak of his legendary temper. I'm guessing he'll have a melt down before November 4. He looks like he's about to explode.

Posted by: COLEBRACKETT | October 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

You start your column by stating he's been under the spotlight, better stated he's been in the spotlight because journalist have not done their job. It's been a spotlight of promotion not a spotlight of inspection.

Ayers, Rescoe, Wright, Pfleger, Odinga, ACORN

The list goes on....

Posted by: zepsth | October 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Rome is burning and Palin is pouring gasoline on the fire.

Posted by: mef1955 | October 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I seriously don't know if I'm overreacting, but it seems to me that the rage McCain and Palin stir up in their followers could erupt into violence. McCain supporters, please tell me I'm wrong!

Posted by: RedsKid2 | October 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse




Posted by: LOONYBIN2000 | October 10, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 2:37 PM"

"Obama said, I will take Government funds, oh, no I won't"
Obama pledged to aggresively pursue for both parties to take public funds PROVIDING that certain ground rules would apply to BOTH candidates, McCain wouldn't agree so Obama took donations from everyday peole like myself rather than PAC's, or lobbyist groups.

"Obama said, I will get the troop out right now, no, now its at least 18 months"
Obama has said we must withdraw from Iraq as responsibly as we were irresposibly going in. Bush, Maliki and John McCain have ALL endorsed his plan and we are currently in negotiations with the Iraqi government to implement it.

Obama said, I won't drill, no, now I will
..yes, limited drilling as long as it is accompanied by significant investment in green energy

"Obama said, No Nuclear, no, now its OK"
His concern has been with the processing of nuclear waste, the stuff has a 25k year shelf-life.

"Obama said, The bailout will fix things right away, no, no help yet."
Don't know where you got that quote from except that everybody has said that it was NEEDED immediately

"Obama said, no taxes on the middle class, lets wait and see what happens on that one."
Let's wait and see, I doubt it will be possible given the current financial situation.

"He is a liar and a socialist, do not elect him."
I believe he is a decent human being, unlike McCain who is truly showing his disgusting side and how much more socialist can we become?

Posted by: JRM2 | October 10, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

The Republican party has become a lynch mob.

Posted by: spitlube | October 10, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

You're kidding, right, about Obama being under a microscope for 20 months? He gets the kid glove treatment by the media everywhere he goes with everything he says.

Consider that of all legislators, Obama received the second highest amount of money from Fannie and Freddie in just 4 short years and his closest advisors were not lobbyists but the criminals who ran the company into the ground. Yet all we hear is that one of McCain's advisors was a lobbyist for Fannie and Freddie. The Democratic party killed the legislation that could have averted this debacle in 2006. Ignored. Democrat Clinton signed the legislation that made all of this possible back in 1999 when he got rid of the controls that were put in place after the depression. Why aren't we hearing more about this from MSM?

Why is calling attention to associations with white terrorists considered racist? Klinkhammer was right on. Consider if McCain had kicked off his campaign in the living room of an unrepentent abortion clinic bomber. Just imagine where he'd be now!

Palin doesn't answer a silly question about what magazines she has read and she is considered as dumb as Quayle for his misspelling that is remembered 17 years later. She is walking such a tightrope knowing that any misstep will be blown out of proportion. But Biden can name the wrong president and claim everyone was watching TV during the depression, and it is just laughed off. The press makes me sick.

Posted by: BeckyinMo | October 10, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I live in Arizona. I know what McCain is all about, and it's not good.

He has turned this campaign into a disgrace for the American people!

McShame would rather play games, inciting rage and dissent, than 'straight talking' about the crisis' we all find ourselves in. And Palin? A complete insult and disgrace! She should be arrested for inciting hate and potential violence!

No one can afford another four years of Republican Regime.

I am an independent voter and will vote against the crazy, racist, rage inciting duo of McCain/Palin.

I'm sure there are a LOT of Indies out there who will surprise everyone when it's time to vote. McCain/Palin will be finished.

The only problem is: McCain will have to come home to Arizona, with his tail between his legs...and we here in Arizona will have to put up with his mismanagement, temper, greed and corruption.

Posted by: IndependentInWaiting | October 10, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Would you provide links or sources for your comment? I have not heard this before.

Posted by: djh23 | October 10, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

This is scary stuff... McCain's camp has way passed its moral limits and I can only imagine what he is capable of leading our already damaged country into. I've voted for the Republican party the last 2 elections and one thing I do know for sure this time is that I will NOT VOTE FOR MCCAIN based on this very disgusting, ugly behavior spread by him and Palin which is not what I call "American" or "patriotic".

Posted by: miki3 | October 10, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

RedsKid2, sometimes you need a little revolution to make sure that our elected officials do what the constitution requires. Most conservatives are scared to death that if Obama gets in, a socialist society will follow. I will promise no violence if you promise no socialist!

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

"MT11, you should look up your facts on the Keating issue. He did put his country first even then under intense pressure.

Look it up and get your facts!"

HAHAHAHAHA! You are an idiot. You need to look up the facts. What did congress say to John McCain about that scandle? "Poor judgement."

Posted by: iiell | October 10, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain was never a Maverick. Based his entire 40+ year military & political career on the aftermath of his being too stupid to take evasive action when a surface-to-air missile locked on to his ride over Hanoi. Never a decent pilot. Wrecked three planes (four if you count his being shot down), and only destroyed two North Vietnamese planes. He's an angry misogynist who called his wife the 'c' word at a public campaign appearance while running for reelection in 1992 and turned the Reagans against him when he dumped the wife that waited faithfully for him while he was a POW. His womanizing makes Clinton look like the model of a faithful husband. He has no grasp of economic matters, cannot win the election on its merits, and has reduced himself to the caricature of a hate-spewing liar willing to adopt any position on any issue if it means another state in the electoral vote column. He privately embraces virtually every vice that he publically rails against. If the GOP had any sense of decency, they would simply drop their public endorsement of the Senator from Arizona and run someone, anyone, else in his place. He's an angry little man who's been in over his head since the day he was born. His friendship with G Gordon Liddy makes Obama's acquaintance with Ayers pale in comparison. His choice of a anti-american, anti-government, closet secessionist as his running mate truly identifies him as someone unfit for any public office. And his momma dresses him funny.

Posted by: dhlister | October 10, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

All this crap about "the surge worked" is just propaganda. It's become a slogan for the deceivers.

Posted by: randygrenier | October 10, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

For all of you claiming that Obama is a socialist, first, look up the definition. You clearly don't know what the word means.

Second, who is it that proposed the rescue plan? Who is it that now is suggesting the American government take equity ownership in banks?

Yes, that's George Bush. Is he now a socialist too?

Can't we just stop this childish name-calling? My goodness, these are serious issues. If you like McCain's health plan, tax plan, or Iraq strategy, why don't you talk about why they are good for the citizenry, rather than calling people meaningless names?

Posted by: ethel08 | October 10, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Check the facts:

That baloney about Obama getting second most money from Freddie and Fannie? Check it out: McCain got MORE...

Sort through this stuff at the above mentioned website. Fact Check.

Posted by: IndependentInWaiting | October 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Being a registered Republican, I am embarrassed by the antics of this party. There was a time when McCain would have made a suitable president. I'm so embarrassed by the deadly duo of McCain & Palin. When did they stop thinking it important to discuss actual current concerns of our nation? I've had all I can take of both of their rhetoric and empty words. There's little, if any substance in either of their speeches and townhall meetings. When did it become OK to be so disrespectful of the other party?

In my neighborhood alone, one Obama yard sign has been removed/stolen/destroyed four times, only to be replaced. Another Obama yard sign up the street has been removed twice and then a live cam was set up directly in front of the yard sign, I'm guessing to watch for thieves . . . and incredibly, just up the street from that video cam, there is a house that now has a laminated sign attached to the Obama yard sign informing people that removing this sign is disrespectful and violates private property.

Why would McCain supporters feel the need to destroy other's property? This makes me sad AND concerned. I have noticed no damage or moved McCain signs and refuse to put any yard sign up.

What's really sad is that Palin will probably by the fall guy (gal) for McCain's loss. She had such a bright future ahead of her but has somehow succumbed to name-calling, instead of presidential promotion.

Being a Christian, I'm also embarrassed by this lack of Christianity being demonstrated by these two Republican leaders, BY LEADERS.

I like to think our country is above much of this petty and immature behavior, but it's not and I should have learned that while watching that film Borat . . .

Posted by: numbers0through9 | October 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Overall, I am much more afraid of right-wing extremists than I was of the Weather Underground, they train with their weapons a lot more and are better shots. McCain selected Palin because he was unable to connect to the right-wing fringe; any pandering that Sarah does to that fringe just serves to get them energized and get out the vote.

franglais is wrong about assertions concerning Joe Vogler, the founder of the Alaska Independence party. He was shot by a "end of the roader" during an argument about explosives and buried in a shallow grave wrapped in a blue tarp and duct tape (very Alaskan). It took over a year to solve the case and find Vogler's body. The rumors erupted about Joe's whereabout's during this time. Alaskan's resent outsiders who are ignorant about what goes on up here.

Many Alaskans whether on the right or left have their favorite libertarian causes and most of us are fringe cases; it's part of the Alaskan adventure!

Posted by: AKrockhead | October 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

McCain would not want somebody to assassinate Obama so he can win, right?

Posted by: mbshults | October 10, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Hey gang (especially you, Ruby2)

Let's go back to the photos - it about the jokers who made (and displayed) such blatant racism. The media covered it b/c the information was sent to them. Regardless of other stories, the perspectives displayed in the photos need to be noticed. There are many Americans who are still afraid of that which is different from them...or just hate non-white folks. Either way, we have a problem since it's 2008. Those photos should be scaring the living pulse out of people.

Posted by: LjLm | October 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

No, I wasn't kidding about Obama being under a microscope. He HAS BEEN.

The media isn't ALL liberal, not when you have people like Charles Krauthammer spewing their blather. Anybody who thinks the Media is 100% liberal is absolutely delusional.

Go ahead and TRY to blame your party's failings on the media. The truth is that in the USA we have FREEDOM OF THE PRESS, and their are PLENTY of right-leaning journalists who hate Obama and who have been doing everything in their power to bring him down.

It just isn't going to work, because Obama is the REAL DEAL. People LISTEN to him because he MAKES SENSE.


Posted by: mavisdarling | October 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Don't pretend Obama has been vetted in 20 months on the campaign trail. He is change agent from heaven, and heaven forbid anyone question his background. Instead cry racist as soon as anyone thinks of looking into his close allies for the last 20 years and find some photos to back it up.

If you think Palin is underqualified, Obama should never, ever be on the national ticket. His experience as a leader pales in comparison to hers. Quit soaking up the liberal medias crap and go read Klinkhammer, whose link is right there. I'm amazed by McCain's patience with the stupidity, liberal bias and corruption of the mainstream media.

Posted by: BeckyinMo | October 10, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

What has happened to the Republican Party? They used to stand for small government, individual responsibility, individual rights, conservative foreign policy, and frugality in spending. GW Bush has been a major embarassment in those regards but McCain seems determined to out do him! Example: Instead of choosing on the basis of merit, Bush picked incompetents to head various government agencies such as FEMA with disastrous results. McCain picks a running mate for Vice President of the U.S.A. who is clearly not even conversant with the huge problems and issues facing this nation on an international stage, passing over numerous competent female Republican leaders. Bush ran a Carl Rowe driven campaign remarkable for its level of deceit. McCain runs a campaign that is day-by-day setting a new low for its level of distain, anger, deceit and brazen dishonesty. If McCain is this destructive of his own character and to his own party, what would he do to this great nation if given the chance? I don't think the Republican party or the nation would easily recover from a President McCain.

Posted by: rodcomm | October 10, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Ok Ethel08, I will ignore for a minute all of the dispicable things being said on this post about McCain, and tell you that a socialist is :

Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth into a small section of society who control capital, and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.

If that is not Obama, I don't know what is, and yes I think that these bailouts, bank takeovers, etc are socialist.

Do you realize that the government owns your house, via the mortgage buyouts? The loss of personal property rights is one of the fundementals of Communism. This is why I am not voting for Obama.

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Please explain McCain and G. Gordon Liddy?

In case you don't remember G. Gordon Liddy masterminded (?) the Watergate breakin.

Infamous quotes from Liddy:
* September 15, 1994 - If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember, they're wearing flak jackets and you're better off shooting for the head.

about listening to Hitler on the radio, he stated that it "made me feel a strength inside I had never known before. Hitler's sheer animal confidence and power of will [entranced me]. He sent an electric current through my body."

McCain appeared on Liddy's show as late as 2007 and Liddy gave $5000 to McCain's campaign.

'Nuff said.

Posted by: mef1955 | October 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

The article clearly describes the incitement towards violence that McCain and Palin tolerate. And it wasn't too long ago.....

During an Israeli election campaign, right wing thugs said the same sort of things against Yitzhak Rabin at the Netanyahu rallies. Netanyahu never spoke out against this vicious behaviour from his supporters, and a little later, a right-wing fanatic killed Rabin.

Seems to me that the Republicans are so desperate for support, they'll grovel at the gutter to get it.

Posted by: Canadian1 | October 10, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

If McCain wants to incite rage against Obama for 'pallin' around with a terrorist - which is absolutely ridiculous - listen to what the Vietnam Vets Against McCain have to say about his TREASONOUS behavior:

Posted by: IndependentInWaiting | October 10, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse


Fox news is unbiased? What? Don't you know sniffing glue is bad for you? Give it up.

Posted by: Godhimself1 | October 10, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

This seems to be really spinning out of control. Listen to the tone of many of these postings, from both sides: a lot of angry knee-jerk reactions and not much constructive criticism. People, take a collective deep breath; try to pull back on the paranoia!

The Obama campaign is planting agitators in Republican crowds to make them look bad? I don't think so - why would they want to risk putting their candidate in danger by inciting hatred?? No, unfortunately we're seeing the not-very-pretty under-belly of the American electorate here: racism is alive and well, and McPalin is obviously desperate (and shameless) to be exploiting it. God bless and help the secret service in doing their job! We need stability, not anarchy.

If the media is so biased in favor of the left, why has there been so little exposure of the Palin family's association with the violently anti-American Alaskan Independence Party? Why are some forms of anti-Americanism okay with many of you on the right? Does it have anything to do with the color of the person's skin who is spouting the anti-American views?

Come on, people, we're all in this together - whether we like everyone else or not. Economic and environmental tsunami's are bearing down on us, and all this name-calling is very foolish distraction from our real problems.

It's okay to disagree, but it is NOT okay to hate your fellow Americans! Is this so hard to understand?? Cool it, folks - quit playing with matches before you burn down your own house.

Posted by: Leo3 | October 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

What we are seeing here through all the hate/fear and anger is the death rattle of the republican party. Republicans are vile, corrupt greedy, self-centered, untruthful, selfish, hypocrites, and are the embodiment of all evil. What's more, they brought this on themselves. Change is coming.

Posted by: Godhimself1 | October 10, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

No liberal bias in the media? You have got to be kidding me. How many people are yelling about the conservative bias in the media? Just imagine you are a conservative for just one second and watch any of the major news networks and I think you'll see what I mean.

If you are not afraid to read Fox News, check out the following analysis of the vp debate:,2933,433314,00.html

Or I guess we should just wait for Tina Fae to show it how it really is.

Posted by: BeckyinMo | October 10, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Good comment Leo. Thank you!

Posted by: Godhimself1 | October 10, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

But the Republicans do have a choice. They could choose to lose with grace. Instead, they will go down in history as one of the lowest campaigns ever, lacking substance, lacking class, lacking manners - and that is if no further evil comes out of their odd rallies.

Posted by: asoders22 | October 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama True Hypocrat and Liar

Hides his previous connections with Ayers
Not hardly. AYERS, AYERS, AYERS!!!!!!
Not hiding anything. We just don't care about his relationship with Ayers.

Yes, William Ayers, the ex-member of the Weathermen. No coverup. No denial. It's all out there for anyone and everyone to examine.

Obama worked with Ayers in Chicago long after the government dropped all the charges. No denial. No coverup of Ayers past history.


You do, we don't. Ayers is in the past and the relationship they had was a positive one for Chicago. That is all we care about.

Ayers isn't a problem for us. Ayers. Not an issue.

Ayer, Ayers, Ayers. You're problem, not ours.

Sorry to disappoint. We're moving on.

ps: Ayers!

Posted by: patrick10 | October 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I watched the news showing McCain’s interview on Fox being televised on CNN, FOX, and other networks. In the interview McCain said he wanted Obama to come out with the truth about Ayers so the public can decide. Why isn’t anyone calling out McCain on his hypocrisy on TROOPERGATE? He asks for public truth from Obama, yet he sends his lawyers to Alaska to cover up TROOPERGATE to avoid public scrutiny. Why doesn’t McCain let Palin testify about her TROOPERATE connection so the American Public can decide – the same standard he wants to apply to Obama. Do you smell hypocrisy?

I don’t want to hear this excuse that TROOPERGATE is politically motivated and that the AYERS connection isn’t. Palin was in office as a government official during TROOPERGATE while Obama was eight years old when Ayers did his despicable act. You tell me which has more validity in applying a standard of judgment -- a person governing when the act was being committed or a person who was eight years old when someone else committed the act?

If judgment is what McCain is questioning about Obama, shouldn’t the American pubic question McCain’s judgment for picking a VP that may be using her powers for personal reasons? Sounds like Bush/Chaney tactic to twist the law f to protect them elves and those they surround themselves with. After all, Palin's character could be a heart beat away from the Presidency if McCain is elected. The public deserves the truth by her testifying in front of an INDEPENDENT board, not one she picks. How many middle class citizens you know that would get away with ignoring a subpoena -- hmmm, I guess if you could hire high powered lawyers to put you and your cronnies above the law, you could.

Come on, what are you afraid of McCain, the truth? McCain keeps preaching about transparency in government, but I guess that only applies to others, not himself or those he surrounds himself with.



Posted by: steveeyes | October 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Godhimself1, you are such a good representative for your party. You are right, the dems are vile, killers of the unborn, who want to live for free and have everyone in the world sing Kumbaya! Oh yeah, and in the spirit of the dems, maybe both Obama and McCain should win the election, we don't want anyone to feel bad now do we!!

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Here's a post I came across afew weeks ago:

Sorry, but the truth isn't "liberal." It's pretty funny to hear you right-wingers screech when things don't go your way, just like infants in the sandbox. And I don't need to be lectured on "loving America" by the same self-loving conservatives who opposed every advance in human rights in this country for the last 70 years. You have destroyed this economy every time you've gotten your hands on it, though Democrats always clean up your messes. You have killed thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of innocents around the world. You have beaten, dragged, lynched, and defamed everyone who looks different from you or disagrees with you.

I don't need your moral judgments on liberalism, because you have no ground from which to make them. You are morally, intellectually, and now financially bankrupt. It is you who hate the idea that America means dialogue and compromise--you want it all, all to yourselves.

I love my home and my country too much to cede it to the likes of you. It's not America I hate--it's your philosophy. America is more generous, decent, and kind than you have ever let it be, or would ever let it be.

That said, it's an American tradition to honor our fellow Americans' hatefulness as their "right." So I honor your right to continue hating everyone to the left of Hitler. But you will never, never, get my vote, and I will work as hard as I can to undermine your every effort, in every way I can, as long as I live.

Enjoy watching history move past you. It will whether you want it to or not.

Posted by: Mike A | September 3, 2008 1:50 AM
Great comment from a truly enlightened American Patriot! Thank you, Mike.

Posted by: Godhimself1 | October 10, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Godhimself1 (interesting name), "Republicans are vile, corrupt greedy, self-centered, untruthful, selfish, hypocrites, and are the embodiment of all evil. What's more, they brought this on themselves. Change is coming."

I wish it were this simple. I want everyone to have what they need. I want society to be fair. I want the government to create equity. I'm conservative because I don't think government does that great a job when it tries to step in and legislate nirvana. I wonder why southern Chicago isn't the perfect community--lots of money pumped in from the state when Obama was there, but life isn't much better there than it was.

Not all of the bad guys are Republicans. Not all of the good guys are Democrats. Please grow up.

Posted by: BeckyinMo | October 10, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

BeckyinMo: You are about as ignorant as they come. You can't even spell "Krauthammer". Most likely your reading comprehension skills are lacking as well, hence your inability to understand what is really going on here.

Just go ahead and keep believing whatever you want. It isn't going to help your pathetic party. Sticking your head in the sand like an ostrich won't do any good.

This country has a 100% FREE PRESS. If your wacko right-wing journalists haven't been able to find anything substantial YET to smear Obama with, then it ain't going to happen. They have certainly TRIED and TRIED and TRIED, and now it's just pure desperation.

And by the way, LYING doesn't count. LYING is what they do in dictatorships, honey.

Maybe you need a simple class in American History. Might do you some good.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 10, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse


Thank you for admitting I'm right.

Posted by: Godhimself1 | October 10, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Kudos to Leo3! If Leo is male, straight and single, let's talk!

But seriously - the photos and their implications in general & regarding the election should be taken into consideration. Go easy on the feedback while your feathers are still ruffled and your head is spinning out of control.

Posted by: LjLm | October 10, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Since a Palin rally has already occurred during which one of her rabble, referring to Obama, screamed out "Kill him!" -- which provoked no censure from the great white hunter, just one of Palin's trademark smirks -- I'm willing to bet that, before election day, the McPain Campaign WILL produce one or more uses of the "N" word, I would guess most likely from Palin herself (though I have no illusions that McCain is above such thoughts himself; and in his increasing enfeeblement, fear, and desperation, stupid thoughts turn into stupid, publicly-uttered words all too easily).

It used to be a comforting thought that "Americans get the President they deserve." Not THIS time around -- McPain uses the fear and mindlessness of the mob just like many former players on the national stage: Herbert Hoover, Father Coughlin (look it up), Charles Lindgergh, Strom Thurmond, Tailgunner Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, and -- most recently and pertinently -- George WMD Bush. Joe SixPack, so wrapped up in his own egocentric pursuits (Oh my God, "Dancing With The Stars" is on tonight!) that he's willing to let political pundits with axes to grind and soap to sell do his thinking for him, just parrots Rush or Glenn Beck, or Kristol, O'Reilly, Krauthammer, Tucker Carlson, or any other number of low-functioning demagogues, and thinks he's done his duty to "Country First!"

How about PEOPLE first? White people, black people, brown people, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, Hindus, Christians of every un-Christian-like warring faction.We are all in the same frighteningly mortal boat. We're all X number of paychecks or medical emergencies from homelessness and ruin.

Is this the time to accept -- as Palin does -- that "kill him" is an acceptable part of a party's political message? If that time has come, then America is not the place the founders envisioned, not the place that countless public-spirited men, women, and children have fought to bring into being. That's MY America. It is obviously NOT the America of John McCain and Sarah Palin, and their self-absorbed mob. Their motto isn't "America First!", not by a long shot, Their motto is "ME First!"

So tear yourself away from the TV for a moment and ask yourself: Is the "ME First!" America the America we want, for ourselves, and for our children, and grandchildren? The answer will be revealed in one month.

Posted by: bbrown95 | October 10, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

McCain needs to be arrested for trying to start a lynch riot. He is acting like a paranoid nut job & is praying someone does something because it is the only way he will ever get into office.

Give him a tranquilizer & his geritol & put him to bed.

Posted by: MichelleH | October 10, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

The youngest baby is not Sarah Palins. The child is her daughter Bristols. She wasn't pregnant at the time she was running for Governor. If she did, What happened to her stomach. Check these pictures. (Feb, 2008) Click "view larger photo".


Posted by: Impartialreporter | October 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

No liberal bias in the media? You have got to be kidding me. How many people are yelling about the conservative bias in the media? Just imagine you are a conservative for just one second and watch any of the major news networks and I think you'll see what I mean.
Ultimately it is up to each voter to determine what is true and what is relevant. The press is for the most part a collection of profit motive companies "selling" the news to us. They may have some moral obligation to present it fairly.

But it up to each individual to learn the bias of each source and filter out the truth. This is part of your responsibilty as an informed citizen in making the correct choice at voting time.

If you choose to listen to the screamers out there from just side of the issues, it is your choice. But you must be honest and realize you are adopting a very biased point of view.

All within your right to do. But it isn't rational to blame the press for how people vote. They aren't in the booth when the lever is pulled. Only you. And its your right to believe what you want. No matter how true or not true it may be.

Posted by: patrick10 | October 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Godhimself1, you are the typical dem who can't see past his nose. I love people like you, they make the rest of the average joes hate the left even more!

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Barry s followers are concerned about people screaming " kill him " "terrorist", all they have to do is have Hussein come clean, quit tap dancing around the truth !They should know Acorn, Ayers, and the Muslim connection is beginning to take its toll. Each time Obamas mouth piece Bill Burton goes on TV it takes him longer and longer to get the spin out.

Posted by: cclem | October 10, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

All discussion about Obama being on a board with Ayers meaning anything, especially since noteable news organizations have done the investigating and found no further connection is sad. It means that the people who are upset about it either are feigning their concern or that they don't understand what a board is. You don't marry the people on a board. You don't even really have to know people you are on a board with. Many times, for good reason, people on a board are from hugely different areas of expertise and background which brings evenness to it. They see each other at a meeting or 2 a year in some cases and may not even get to speak directly to each other. So since no "communication" can be documented between Obama and Ayers on these boards, this whole thing is just Swiftboat tactics. And of course, the people who think you have to be in bed with someone you're on a board with are the lesser acculturated, lesser educated, "Joe 6-pack" people Palin describes herself as and is attractive to. Figures.

Now for McCain and Palin, we have hugely different examples that people should be "concerned" about, should be asking more questions about, and for which we have pictures, video and sound. Keating, successionists in Alaska, ex-klansman sympathizers who worked in congress with McCain are not even a sizeable mention of their problems. But we would rather talk about a trumped-up, investigated and resolved issue for Obama and call it a character issue than replay these other people's own words. That points to our character, or lack thereof.

It amounts to immaturity, on the part of the republican leadership and their lynch mob they're growing. It also points to the fanning of those flames by the press who continues to slant the journalism in favor of this wornout topic without giving any real credible coverage of McCain and Palin's scandalous laissons. We deserve better. The voters are obviously asking for better. I'm asking the press and the RNC for better. Press, do you job. RNC, reign in your rabid dogs.

Posted by: bronzee | October 10, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

This makes my stomach turn. Of course, its a matter of cause and effect - they'll get the government that keeps ripping them off - a government that incidiously perpetuates this crap and manipulates them. Man oh man, the ignorance!

Good to be Canadian!

Posted by: ngeisler | October 10, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Well, Becky in Mo, I must apologize for the vitriol of my last statement. YOUR last statement made a lot more sense than your previous one about "Klinkhammer".

DO accept my apologies...!

I am leaving now.... let cooler heads prevail.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 10, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: hclark1 | October 10, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

RUBY2: show us evidence of the claims that you just made, because judging from your rant without any evidence, you're just another crazy racist who can't bring herself to believe that a minority could come to power.

Posted by: birdaa | October 10, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Such are the kinds to be drawn to the likes of those two.

Yes, they appeal to such people, the angry ignorant, and those whose reasonings are in reality a kaleidoscope showcase of classic fallacies.

The easily swayed, the easily ticked off, the tunnel vision visionaries, the gut-feeling gutless, the inspired imbeciles, the righteous damned, all caught up in the suction of the intellectual vacuum that is a McCain-Palin rally.

What a scene.

Posted by: bushieisa | October 10, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

The youngest baby is not Sarah Palins.

You guys are idiots. Why do you pursue this garbage? This makes no more sense than saying Obama was really born in Africa.

Do you line the inside of your house with tin foil to prevent CIA thought waves from programming your brain at night while you sleep? You know about that secret program don't you???

Posted by: patrick10 | October 10, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse


No, not ALL republicans are bad but it does seem to be the party of intolerance and selfishness.

Look Becky, it seems we both want the same thing but disagree on how to get there. I don't believe you give huge tax breaks to big corps and the rich and hope it will "trickle down". It doesn't trickle down. I don't trust the rich and corps to help the less fortunate. They are greedy and only look out for their own interests. Money does that to people. I don't believe in getting rich at the expense of other people's sweat and toil. There needs to be social programs to help with a hand up but not a handout. There are many,many people out there through no fault of their own, cannot take care of themselves. We need to be our brother's keeper.

Thanks for your time, Becky.

Posted by: Godhimself1 | October 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Im the scum of the earth? Well let me tell you something. Im just speaking what other pows have about McCain. Heres a link

He broke his arms and legs by not pulling them in when ejecting from his plane.

The viet cong did not break his legs.

Research it before you start spouting off at the mouth.

If mr perfect mccain can spread trash so can obama.

Posted by: stanmart | October 10, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Idiots, Morons, and Imbeciles for McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: khote14 | October 10, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

If there were a liberal bias, which there isn't for reasons corporate, it would be because most people involved the media, especially it's frontline people, are educated, open, and aware of what's going on locally and globally. They would be the antithesis of your average uneducated, close-minded, unaware, self-righteous republican.

Its that simple.

Posted by: ngeisler | October 10, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

AMERICA'S DANGEROUS DANCE WITH BARAK OBAMA-How many terrorists, anti American preachers, and religious leaders must Barak Obama be closely associated with over the last twenty or more years before the American people understand that he is a dangerous choice to become the Commander in Chief and president? How many votes to disarm our armed forces and undermine the troops and their families? How many convicted slumlords and convicted felons does it take to buy Obama his Senate seat and his mansion? One. His name Tony Rezko.


Posted by: mharwick | October 10, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

For those posters that claim that there is a "Liberal Media" point out exactly what media company you are referring to please. I need to know. Are you referring to the "liberal media" that employed Judith Miller who essentially acted as the mouth piece for the Bush administration in the run-up to the invasion and occupation of Iraq? Is it that same "liberal media" that hid from the American public what it knew about the NSA wiretapping for over a year because they did not want to affect that years election? Is it the same "liberal media" that relentlesly attacked Al Gore during the 2000 elections? Attacking the cloths Gore wore, claiming that he was a liar, portraying him as something less than American? Is it the same "liberal media" that called John Edwards the "Breck-Girl", or Obama "Obambi"? Is it the same liberal media that as late as a couple of months ago crowned John Mccain as the "Maverick" and the "Straight Talk" when he was and is not either one of those things ever? Is it the same "liberal media" that helped wing-nuts wage war against the Clintons in the 90's with their White Water and Vince Foster fantasies? Is it the same "liberal media" that looked the other way when John Kerry was ravished by lies and innuendo in 2004....gee, he must be French!! I could go on and on about the "liberal media"Please point out to me this so called "liberal media"
You all have been played as fools by the so called "liberal media"

Posted by: WhatLiberalMedia | October 10, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?

We wont.

Posted by: PulSamsara | October 10, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

McCain lost when he picked Palin. This is just the extreme whiny fit that follows. It will end on election day. Hopefully, no one will get hurt in the meantime.

McCain and Palin are showing the nation and the world, they do not deserve to be leaders of their own families, let alone the nation.

It is a sad day for the GOP.

Posted by: paulstewart | October 10, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse


Put down the pipe. This thing is over. sen. Obama will be our next pres. Get over it. (and the books you speak of have no credibility whatsoever.)

Posted by: Godhimself1 | October 10, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

It's time America took a good long hard look at itself and its place in the world. You are a bullying, resource stealing, imperialistic nation, even more so during the past 8 years. It's done under the guise of security, but we all know that's baloney.

None of Reverand Wright's words that we all heard several months ago were untrue.

Why are you so threatened by the truth?

Face what you are - and if you don't like it - change it. This is your chance!

Posted by: ngeisler | October 10, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

The questions about Rezko, Ayers and Wright have been asked and answered, ad nauseum, over the last two years. Continuing to ask the same questions will not yield different answers, nor will it make you look smart.

Posted by: tpsteele | October 10, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I don't know what else to say - this horrible ugliness McCain is unleashing has made me very afraid.

Posted by: DOlivervelez | October 10, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"Obama said, I will take Government funds, oh, no I won't"
You folks want to fan the flames of anything and hope it becomes an issue.

This one is bogus. It's a non-starter as they say.

BOTH candidates are constantly sharpening their pencils and re-calculating how best to finanace their campaign. They are obligated to take the most lucrative path if they are serious and professional.

It got to the point in time that they both had to make a decision about accepting free government money or to not take it.

This one was a no-brainer for both candidates. Obama realized he would be dollars ahead by refusing the free government money and its restrictions. So he turned it down. Excellent tactic. And in your face move on Mccain.

McCain also realized he didn't have the finanacial support from all of you to match what the Democrats were capable of. He was forrced to take the free government money. And its restrictions.

Did I mention it was free government money he was accepting??

You better believe his accountants were envious as hell about Obama's position. They new it was a bad omen. buy they had no choice. It was weak but their only choice.

Fact is they would have leaped on the same bandwagon Obama did had they confidence Republican's would finanace McCain as well as what Obama was receiving.

It's all about the money. McCain called the bluff and lost the bet. It was a poker game and Obama beat him. Too bad Republican's. You could have helped out the White Haired Dude but you didn't believe in him back then. So you never sent him the money he needed!!

Remember when he couldn't attract the base, the conservative talking heads, and lots of the support he didn't receive until too late.

NOT AN ISSUE. Just a strategic move that any good candidate would do, irrespective of party.

Another non-issue you folks keep tripping over.

Trying to tear down Obama at this point is beginning to alienate the undecided voters. And this is why the polls are showing problems for McCain in swing states.

You're doing it to yourselves. Keep it up. Keep fanning the flames. Send more voters our way. Help the undecided make up their minds.


Show us how freaky and mavericky McCain and Palin can really get in the next weeks. That team is wobblying out of control and about to burn up on re-entry.

Your choice, suit yourselves. sorry it had to end so ugly. But your choice, not ours. Time to man up.

Posted by: patrick10 | October 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

This is great news !

Stoke the podunk racists !
Racket up the inbreds !
Dial up the red-neck hate speech !

It just turns off the center all the more :)

This is going to be a rout.

Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?

We wont.

Posted by: PulSamsara | October 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

My friends, my friends!

Country first?

Posted by: sobugged1 | October 10, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

RealDataIsBest, first of all you are referring to the Nazi's. The Nazi's were as far to the right as you can go on the political spectrum. The right side of the spectrum is not the side on which socialism lies. McCain is a dangerous man stirring up dangerous unstable uneducated people. Wake up! He called you his fellow prisoners just Wednesday!

Posted by: stevenmpalmer | October 10, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse


The rampant breaches of journalistic ethics fascinates me as a professional philosopher. News media automatically dismisses any challenges to Obama as a suitable candidate but fails to offer any authorative refutation beyond a personal dismissal of all charges. Anyone who associates with Wright, Ayers and Khalidi must have SOME interests in common with these men and their radical views...After all could you hang out with Wright for 20 years unless you sympathized with him?

Do more homework before you are so dismissive. You can start here.

Remember that Obama distributed millions of CAC funds to schools not for math or science programs but to spread Ayers' philosophy of education to school children.


Let's get on the ball here...

Posted by: joanig | October 10, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign is doing a great job alienating moderates and independents.

Fear mongering and hate mongering is extremely un-American. Senator McCain's campaign has taken a very disappointing turn.

Posted by: Ann9 | October 10, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

The purpose of Palin and McCain inciting the crowds to violent outcries is to intimate other people from speaking up in barbershops and bars and bridge games. It is the technique of the Nazi's. At least we can still vote in privacy.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 10, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

He broke his arms and legs by not pulling them in when ejecting from his plane.

This is crap. Ejecting from a jet fighter is a violant act. Injuries are very common. Even in normal egresses. McCain plane lost a wing and they don't fly well at that point.

Your comments are absurd.

Let's beat McCain for his wacky ideas and decisions today. Not this garbage.

Posted by: patrick10 | October 10, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Didn't we used to have laws about inciting riots and slander, libel and racism or have we decided that the means to the end and politics are exempted from or are above the law?

I have never been so disgusted as I am now of the behavior of McCain and Palin, Cindy McCain and the and their campaign strategists and handlers. This is ugly and violates all the rules of common decency. To anyone, including the senator and the govenor and related parties, who is engaged in sponsoring and promoting the MCCAin/Palin brand of politics ought to be charged with a crime, a fine or a loss of an FCC license. This is more than a dance with darkness and those who are dancing know it!

Posted by: nutmegger1 | October 10, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

RE: Troopergate response....."The McCain campaign says the investigation has become "muddied with innuendo, rumor and partisan politics"
My eyes are bleary. This comes from the McCain camp that is linking Obama to Ayres using the same concept? Spare me this BS. McCain and Palin have morphed in Karl Roves. McCain is not the man he thinks he is. He has become a hypocritical weasel. Palin sleeps with a separatist and supports their cause. What more do you want from this group?
Palin also makes Spiro Agnew sound like a Rhoads Scholar.

Posted by: sd-mouth | October 10, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

RE: the comment "The media is really more far left now than at any time I can remember. Evidence is the selective lack of memory exhibited by authors such as this one. Remember four years ago and eight years ago? Remember the relentless pounding by the media Bush took because of his membership in the National Guard?"

Yea, and I remember the daily pounding in the "liberal" press that Bill Clinton took, too, along with Jimmy Carter and Lyndon Johnson.

You don't get it: It isn't a liberal or conservative press - it's a press that challenges the government and serves as a watchdog, and that's exactly what we need.

And If Obama is elected, guess what? The press won't be swooning over him either. The honeymoon is very, very short.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | October 10, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Two things: They folks with the "Vote Right Vote White" signs are ignorant and an embarassment to our country. To say that Obama "has been under the presidential campaign microscope for the last 20 months" is a lie. The mainstream press bias in favor of Obama is now well established and accepted. He has not been vetted on his character, associations, etc. since the Wright issue back in March.

Posted by: gaypastor | October 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Not only G.Bush didn't capture Osama Bin Laden. He help him destroy Wall Street (Osama tried and fail on 9/11). Who's the terrorist now?
With this logic, Osama was trying to safe the American people from Wall Street and those corrupt CEOs.
Now Osama Bin Laden has nothing to destroy in America... we are safe... Mission Accomplish !!!

Posted by: fernando1958 | October 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

joanig - I'd like to know what the American people find so repugnant about Rev. Meyers and Black Liberation Theology.

Please prove to me that any of Rev. Wright's assertations were inaccurate. You reasonably state that blacks have been denied the opportunites American Whites take for granted, for centuries, can you? Every oppressed people turn to their faith to gain equality.

Why is this an issue?

Posted by: ngeisler | October 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

"Dancing" with the dark side?

The dance that he's doing with the Devil is universally known as the "Horizontal Bop".

And with the Devil as your "dance" partner, you never get to lead. McShame will never get to lead this country either.

In America, we don't elect "bottoms" to the top office. Sorry McCain't, we've got ya pegged.

Posted by: laboo | October 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how much control McCain has these days over his campaign? It looks like a desperate pack has taken it over and he is helpless! If only he had chosen someone like Romney as his running mate... he could have run a creditable campaign rooted in economy. I hope he realizes soon that this ugly campaign could undo all the reputation he has built the last few decades. Dear McCain: Please take control of your campaign!!!

Posted by: Sonny5 | October 10, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh No!!! White people may vote for McCain because he is white!!!!!!! The Republicans are all disgusting racists!!!!

Where is the comparable outcry because roughly 99% of all black voters are voting for Obama? Are they not also racist?

If it is ok to be a black racist, then I am truly happy. Now as a white person, I can be openly racist also.

Posted by: mango2 | October 10, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Should Sarah Palin become president of the US -Deus miserere nobis- McCarthy's crusade would look like a Disneyland adventure... I'm a little be scared

Posted by: roberto-old-european | October 10, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: joanig | October 10, 2008 4:23 PM

It is a lie to suggest that Obama 'hangs out with" Ayers.

He worked on a charity for schools with him.
Ayers is the 1997 Chicago Man of the Year and a successful profession of education and author.

Stop peddling the lies of Palin. They are simply not true.
Look it up. Obama does not 'pal around with" Ayers.
Never did. Its just a lie. Big lie, repeated often, the cornerstone of the Nazi's. See Nixon, who put lie mailers in mailboxes the night before his first congressional race, falsely claiming the opponent was a commie AND a homosexual, and then denying it the next day. We know who put the mailers in the box now, and it was a Nixon regular, who also worked on the Watergate crime.
Back to Ayers. Obama does NOT pal around with him.

Let's talk healthcare. Or dont you care?
McCain's plan will drive employers to drop support for group plans. Then the individuals will lose group pricing.
That's the basic McCain strategy, written by lobbyists.
See why he wants you to talk about Ayers?
So you dont look at his actual proposals.

Let's look at Mc's housing plan, announced during debate #2.
It puts $300 billion in the pockets of the bankers, and takes that money from your tax dollars. There is nothing else in the proposal. You lose $300 billion, and bankers get your money.
Like that one?
Pay attention. Ayers is a smokescreen for big business lobbyists.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 10, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

It is the technique of the Nazi's

If I were a Nazi I would be offended by this comment. They were much more sophisticated and clever than McCain. I won't suggest Palin has anything to do with these decisions. She certinly isn't that clever and instead remains as McCain's willing puppet.

Posted by: patrick10 | October 10, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

mccain deserves to lose. his honor is gone. his soul is lost. i am ashamed that mccain & palin have embraced & endorsed the fanatic fringe of the GOP - the Giants of Propaganda. what a bad example they are setting for young Americans.
i am proud that i will join millions of Americans casting a patriotic vote for Barack Obama.

Posted by: lawrence2xl | October 10, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

McCain, is he FIT to serve as President really?

At a rally 2 days ago addressed the people gathered there as "My fellow PRISONERS ... " and went on with his message.

To me it is obvious that he is got a mental delusion of being addressing his fellow prisoners while he was captive in Viet-Nam.

Senator McCain, Viet-Nam is over, you are not in that prison anymore. You may well be in need for medical attention and help. Keep all the dignity you can.

Posted by: ElMugroso | October 10, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Why is the MSM NOT addressing this:

At the same time the Bush administration was negotiating a still elusive agreement to keep the U.S. military in Iraq, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama tried to convince Iraqi leaders in private conversations that the president shouldn't be allowed to enact the deal without congressional approval.

Mr. Obama's conversations with the Iraqi leaders, confirmed to The Washington Times by his campaign aides, began just two weeks after he clinched the Democratic presidential nomination in June and stirred controversy over the appropriateness of a White House candidate's contacts with foreign governments while the sitting president is conducting a war.

Some of the specifics of the conversations remain the subject of dispute. Iraqi leaders purported to The Times that Mr. Obama urged Baghdad to delay an agreement with Mr. Bush until next year when a new president will be in office - a charge the Democratic campaign denies.


Posted by: tbastian | October 10, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I am really scared by the level of vitriol that McCain and his running mate are using against Obama. For the person who wrote that the "kill him" line came only from a Washington Post blog, I suggest you go to U-Tube and look at a video taken at a McCain rally yesterday. After McCain mentions Obama, a voice from the audience shouts "kill him". McCain visably recoils but does not call the person out on the comment. This is appalling. Why aren't McCain and Palin getting charged with incitement to violence? Seriously, I am really afraid for the safety of the Obama family. Something needs to be done to stop this kind of campaigning. Republican meetings are starting to resemble Nazi rallies.

Posted by: MLGR | October 10, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

That is rich, Democrats trying to lecture McCain on Honor. I would posit that the national socialist DEMOCRATIC party know approx jack squat about honor. It is much like someone who has never served in the military lecturing someone who has, how to best run a military, Democrats NEVER had any Honor!!

Posted by: mango2 | October 10, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Young black men calling little old white ladies "b*t*h" and "ho" simply because they were walking into a Hillary rally is also "fear mongering and hate mongering" and I've seen it happen...repeatedly! The Obama campaign needs to stop being single-minded when it comes to oppressions in our country. Obama chose to run against the historic candidate of the first woman frontrunner and he, not Hillary, chose to pit two historical oppressed groups against each other. That was his call and his responsibility to heal the rifts (which he HAS not done!)
Again...."the vote right vote white" guys are idiots!!!

Posted by: gaypastor | October 10, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama.. meeting with Iraqi leaders and saying don't negotiate with our President.. wait until I'm elected so I can take credit.... This shows you his LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OR RESPECT FOR THE MILITARY AND THE USA

Posted by: tbastian | October 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I'd have no issues casting a vote for Obama... if someone would show me ONE THING Obama has done while in any office... besides give a great speech, or cast a vote of "present."

The only thing I can think of is he gave the former execs of Fannie a job on his campaign, instead of sending them to jail next to the Enron book-cookers. Oh - That's right: Obama received over $200,000 in campaign contributions from Fannie (2nd highest only to Dodd), so he's simply returning the favor. So much for "eight years of failed policies" when both Bush and McCain tried to regulate Fannie/Freddie years ago... but it was blocked by Dodd, Obama and other Democrats.

God Bless America.

Posted by: BrianK299 | October 10, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Jonathan is correct. McCain is dallying with the dark side. Whatever claim he may have had for being honorable and virtuous is now gone. He is resorting to all the things that were done to him by his Republican opponent in 2000. But the current circumstances (thank goodness) are such that he is very unlikely to succeed. Americans do not have the luxury of stable economics and peace with which to indulge their petty prejudices. We are in dire straits and have very little room for error this time. From a political standpoint, the economic upheaval could not have come at a better time for Obama...or a worse time for McCain. It is clear that that is today's focal point and trying to make a case for character doubt by waving the Ayers flag is simply not going to work. But instead of losing the election with a clear conscience and clean campaign, McCain will return to the Senate a changed man. He can no longer easily step across the aisle. The press will no longer be his "base." He will find himself isolated from his Republican colleagues for losing the election, and dragging a lot of incumbents along with him. And Democrats will not soon forget his pandering to the worst of the worst. There will be Democrats on one side; Republicans on the other; and McCain and Lieberman somewhere in between, giving each other moral support while everyone else gives them the cold shoulder.

Posted by: rob15 | October 10, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

joanig - I'd like to know what the American people find so repugnant about Rev. Meyers and Black Liberation Theology.

Please prove to me that any of Rev. Wright's assertations were inaccurate. You reasonably state that blacks have been denied the opportunites American Whites take for granted, for centuries, can you? Every oppressed people turn to their faith to gain equality.

Why is this an issue?

Posted by: ngeisler | October 10, 2008 4:32 PM\
The objections are
1. Rev Wright wears an African highly colored vest, not a black outfit with a teeny white collar, like a proper repressed Victorian.
2. Rev Wright is loud sometimes. He is not buttoned down, like a repressed victorian minister.
3. Rev Wright said bad things about the USA after the Rev Wright heard that the CIA had trained Bin Laudin.
Bin Laudin was actually trained and paid and his entire legion of warriors were trained AND ARMED and paid by our tax dollars, in a stupid idea to get the Muslim nutsy-jihadists to fight the Soviets. We thought they would not turn against us. Wrong.

So you heard it here. G-D damn the CIA for creating the monsters that killed thousands on 9-11.

They dont like that Rev Wright cursed our dear land. Tsk.
How awful. They dont comment on the moron CIA creating this mess and bringing such dishonor upon our flag.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 10, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Your a mean old man McSame

Posted by: grandstreetfund | October 10, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Yes Mango, Honour can only come with the experience of killing innocents in unjust, unjustifiable American-led battles.

Posted by: ngeisler | October 10, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

McCain needs to fire up his base of supporters. I recommend they burn a cross after each rally.

Posted by: hamishdad | October 10, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

sarah palin campaigns remind me of the nazi rallies in the 30's. If john mccain has gone so crazy as to tolerate shouts of murder at his rallies, he shouldn't be able to hold any rallies, or maybe dress up in white sheets. the right wing republicans show their basic moral character once again and it is sickening.

Posted by: t_golstch | October 10, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Dear ottothewise,

You are correct that the US did train Osama and provide hoim arms as a freedom fighter against the former USSR. It was one of the mistakes that was made by our "pulling out" and leaving Afghanistan.. kind of what Obama wants to do in Iraq...... history.. learn from your mistakes or your bound to repeat them

Wright is an extremists by any means you look at it. I think we can all agree on that. The black church is different from a "white church" and some people don't get this. I do... I understand how when your preception is much different it is hard to break out of it. But, be real.... hatred is not love or compassion by any religion

Posted by: tbastian | October 10, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

The premise of Capehart's article, that the Republicans (I am an independent)in general, and John McCain in particular, are engaging in over the top and dangerous campaign tactics, is one I find laughable. The most egregious race based campaigning, innuendos and accusations directed toward Mr. Obama during the past two years have been by the Clintons, not the Republicans. John McCain has not campaigned by telling Pennsylvania voters (or the voters in any other state) that he stands for hard working white middle class Americans; that was Hillary Clinton. Nor has John McCain, to his credit, chosen to continue the Reverend Wright smear campaign begun during the Democratic primaries. It would have been to McCain's obvious advantage to run national ads reprising the Wright sermon snippets disseminated on You Tube, especially given the mileage Obama's Democratic party rivals milked from it. After all, the undercover work on the Wright connection had already been done by the Clinton campaign in first condensing thousands of hours of sermon video footage to the inflammatory You Tube segments and then inducing Wright into a public response which embarrassed the Obamas. And the evidence was already in that the public at large did not like what it saw of the Reverend Wright. But rather than address the particular McCain conduct Capehart finds so reprehensible, that he has associated Obama with William Ayers (Capehart's innuendo is so complete he never bothers to actually tell us what McCain has done to prompt Capehart's outrage), Capehart instead chooses to engage in the hysterical innuendo and character assassination that he accuses McCain of. Hence we are subjected to Capehart's association of the "Grand Old Party" (and, therefore, by association, McCain) with unidentified but evil people from the early 1990s who talked about black helicopters and supposedly spawned Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombings. And so, by and by, Capehart links McCain with McVeigh. People don't get any worse than McVeigh, do they? Not only so, but the dangerous people Capehart says are now prowling the outskirts of campaign rallies are being drawn there, like moths to a flame, by (apparently, again the charges are never specified) McCain's claim that Obama is friendly with William Ayers. Ayers was, as he boasts at some length in his "memoirs," a man intent on destroying the U.S. government. Violence, including bombings and killing people, was part of the plan. Presumably, the crazies Mr. Capehart is concerned about are not the William Ayers of the world; they would be pleased with a friendship between Obama and Ayers and would stay home and vote for Obama, or perhaps they would haunt the McCain campaign and try to kill him. Rather,the crazies Capehart fears are the McVeighs of the world, the Nazis, the Ku Klux Klanners. But what is more likely to get them to surface - You Tube videos of Reverend Wright asking God to damn America or the claim that Obama is friendly with Ayers? It was Hillary, after all, in the midst of the Reverend Wright furor, who suggested one reason for prolonging her apparently hopeless campagain against Obama was that someone might kill him. Perhaps Capehart, as a responsible journalist, has made an effort to actually speak with some of these people to give Capehart's journalistic claims, which might otherwise be viewed as hysterical and irresponsible, credibility. If so, it would be good of Mr. Capehart to give his readers the benefit of his journalistic enterprise. Until he does I, for one, believe the Reverend Wright You Tube footage is more likely to get the Nazis and KKKer's up in arms. And what, when we get down to it, does Capehart think about the connection the McCain campaign is focusing on - that Obama is close with William Ayers? Are Capehart's handwringing and professed concerns an attempt to divert attention from his silence on this topic? Ayers' memoirs were published just 5 years ago, not in the 1960's. Ayers writes that he is capable of bombing again, and that he is utterly and completely unrepentant about what he did. Actually, he goes further - he gloats about his past violence and that he was never punished. I would really like to know how close Obama and Ayers are/were because I find Mr. Ayers to be as disturbing as some of the individuals Capehart describes on the fringes of campaign rallies. They speak violent words. Ayers published them in a memoir. If Obama is friendly with Ayers, that would be of real concern to me.

Posted by: info47 | October 10, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the country has seen this kind of campaigning since the glory days of George Corley Wallace. Circa maybe 1968?

What's next, John Simon McCain is going to start channeling the unquiet ghost of Lester Maddox?

Posted by: ericmaundry | October 10, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

As much as a year ago I warned my friends on the left that they are soon to discover a side of their party that they will not like. And sure enough, I was right. Sexism was something that thought would never rear its head. The butcher job put on Senator Clinton was classic. She cried foul, and the press laughed at her. But she were correct. If Senator Obama faced the scrutiny that she faced, then perhaps we could be looking at another Clinton Whitehouse. Color trumped gender. The race card was played to the hilt by the legions of guilty white liberals, despite what they contend. I am not sure of the true motivation, but I cannot help but feel their sentiment was that a candidate of color would play better on the world stage. We could reclaim our position as the world's leader if a black man were elected President. As a conservative-minded Hispanic, I have no problem with the color of one's skin, its the politics and policies that concern me. If its black they want, then lets give them former Lt. Governor Micheal Steele of Maryland. He would ease the pain of the left, and satisfy the right. Now this is a man who could truly unite. Race as an issue? Blame the left, they are the real threat to race relations. Maybe in 2012 they will feel the need to reconcile for the Zoot Suit Wars and Governor Richardson will be thrust upon us.
Phillip, San Francisco

Posted by: pemonares | October 10, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

McSame and Failin will do anything, say anything and flip flop their way thru the next few weeks in their desparate attempt to give McSame his last chance and Failin her only chance at the Presidency. Their tactics are disgusting and a disgrace to our electoral process. They have nothing worthwhile to say, make up policy as they go along and spend more time inciting right wing nutcases than offering any solutions. McSame's erratic behavior shows the world he's incompetent and not fit to lead. Failin is not worth even talking about. Get out the vote for a landslide victory for Obama/Biden! Get America back on track and send McSame to the retirement community while Failin hits the trail! Good riddance to both of them!

Posted by: TruBlu1 | October 10, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Let the people know the truth and then they can decide. Why are Obama supporters so afraid of hearing the truth? Would you rather people not make a vote knowing both sides of the ticket? Or would you rather keep people stupid so they can remain dependent on the gov't. IF Obama didn't do anything wrong, then why should he or any of his supporters care about this character judgement is an issue? Only those who lie are afraid of the light. In the end... the best escape from the dark, is the truth. Throw everything out there... let the people judge. IF you trust yourself and your actions... then why hide. Isn't it much calmer and better to your stress level being in the light?

Lies after Lies, and hiding does the people of this country no justice. LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE. Frankly, everyone has different views, for all you know, many of the people in the U.S have Socialistic views. What's wrong w/Socailistic views any way? If you're afraid of it, then maybe it's not a right view for you.

Posted by: KAustin1 | October 10, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Dear t_golstch,

Again with the Nazi comments. To those who are Jewish this is offensive and hateful. Extermination of a poeple due to race or religion is not something to laugh about.

Hitler was a great speaker... I guess we could always look at someelse running who is a great speaker and came to power at difficult hard economic times for his country by promising prosperity.. But, I would not make that association no matter how much I dislike Obama and what he stands for. It would be wrong.

Posted by: tbastian | October 10, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Why Are They Smiling? Permission to Hate.

It's obvious that the McCain campaign has decided that they are going to lose. They know that attacking Senator Obama as a terrorist drives away independent voters in droves. Yet McCain, on his stump speech, is asking crowds that he has warmed up with untruths about Senator Obama: "Who do you think he is?"

From within the all white crowd someone screams: "A terrorist".

McCain smiles. Permission to hate.

Plain fires up her all white crowd by stating that Senator Obama is "not like us" and implies that he hates America, and then she charges that he "pals around with terrorists". From within the all white crowd someone screams: "Kill him".

Palin smiles. Permission to hate.

"A terrorist" and "Kill him" are not random responses. Without these responses these speeches don't work.

The Republican strategy is now to get the most rabid of their base stirred up into a frenzy. They have taken the right wing-nut talking points of Limbaugh and Hannity and lob them like red meat to the crowd.

The Republican Goal:

Create a post election environment where the rabid base is so furious that bringing people together and governing becomes as difficult as possible. As party leaders, they are deliberately encouraging and giving permission to millions of Americans to feel justified in hating a new president President Obama. The stage is set to blame President Obama from 'day one' for the mess the Republicans have made over the last 8 years.

Our job is to follow Senator Obama's example. We need to continue to calmly reach out to our friends, neighbors and relatives who support Senator McCain by acknowledging their right to their opinions, see where there is common ground on some issues and tell them the truth about Senator Obama. Then let it go.

Posted by: polotka | October 10, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

By the way if you look at what the nazi party espoused, you would see that there governing philosophy most closely matches the Democrats.
wanted a welfare state
Democrats want a welfare state
Nazis practiced eugenics
Nazis preached collectvism
That is all you hear from Democrats
Obama supporters try to squash free speech
Nazis sqaush free speech
Nazis wanted more government control
Democrats want more government control

Other than preaching racial superiority and wanting to kill jews, i would say that the Democrats are virtuyally identical to the Nazi party

Posted by: mango2 | October 10, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

RAAAAAAAAAAACIST!!!!!! All those Democrats are racist. Since Republicans are going to vote Republican no matter who the canididate is, these people must RAAAAAACIST Democrats!!!

Posted by: decodenny | October 10, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

What if the report is true. What if Obama "did" meet with Ayers in his own house, what if the friendship goes beyond what he is leading people to believe. It's not looking good. I am an independant, was leaning towards Obama, but now, I've got to read and educate myself more, but the more I read, the more I wonder, and the more people I talk to, the more they are worried about this new development.

Posted by: claranicole | October 10, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

The Co-Governor of Alaska is Todd Palin.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 10, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

KAustin -

"IF Obama didn't do anything wrong, then why should he or any of his supporters care about this character judgement is an issue?"

Because, these accusations are based on lies and gross exaggerations. People will base their opinions and voting decisions on misinformation.

Posted by: ngeisler | October 10, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I don't think that Dem's or GOP's are racist. I think ignorant people are racists. I think race is a non issue here.. but it is politically expediant to throw the race card isn't it

Posted by: tbastian | October 10, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

One thing I don't understand, if there are nearly half of the population in this country sees a problem w/his association... does that mean this near half of the group are all mean spirited out to destroy the U.S? How many conservatives do you know who are out to destroy the country? And do you really understand why they are so passionate? all the republicans I know are good citizens who supports their country and community, charity givers... now, ask yourself a question why the frustration? The McCain campaign has been so quite about this issue, when most conservatives see it as a problem. And when the people get frustrated... why can't you ask why? what is the situation? it has to be deeper? But instead, you blame the campaign. How narrow minded and shallow you are. it's the consevative people who are crying out b/c we feel we've been muffed... so let's be fair, b/c we're your neighbors, family, and friends too.

Posted by: KAustin1 | October 10, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Those pictures are disturbing, but not all whites or even rednecks are racist! Keep hope alive and don't let the hate and the negative ads stop you from believing in change!

Go Rednecks for Obama!

Posted by: FriendlyFred1 | October 10, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

McCain is, as described, a perennial adolescent. Remember, this is the same guy who crashed four airplanes, was reprimmanded in the Keating Five scandal, selected an unqualified running mate, and openly lies several times a day on the campaign trail. Now he is deliberately inciting his more rabid followers at a time of maximum danger for his opponent. Is this a person any sane person would trust with the Presidency. I think not.

Posted by: maxfli68 | October 10, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain's campaign people says, if he talks about the economy, he will lose. But at least he would lose honestly and honorably.

And, if he did, I bet he would be closer in the polls.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | October 10, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

The issue is MSNBC,NBC,CBS,CNN and the rest are SO IN LOVE WITH OBAMA that the refuse to report anything that doesn't prop him up.

It is up to us to get the word out and when you do you are a racist, mean spirited hater and fear monger.. To ask questions is wrong.. Obama supports to ask don't tell... you don't ask any questions and he won't tell

Posted by: tbastian | October 10, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Look at John McCain's history. His father and grandfather were Admirals - four star admirals. This John McCain was not well liked in the Naval Air community. He got where he got because of the love and respect held in the Navy for his father and grandfather and because of his record as a POW. He topped out as a Captain, far below the four stars earned by the first two John McCain's. And yet if you watch him on the campaign he walks around in a NAVY baseball cap...why? Does he think we won't remember he was in the Navy and was a POW? I write this as a 21-year Naval Air retiree and a Vietnam vet.

Posted by: spitlube | October 10, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

ngeisler, I am not sure what lies you are talking about... are we talking about Ayers?
(1) Obama says he doesn't know Ayers, only worked briefly w/him on a board, and didn't know of his history. His sr advisor says that they are certainly on "friendly" terms during the primaries. Today, Obama says he thought Ayers has been reformed of his ways. In 2001 was it? don't remember... but Connie chung had a big interview w/Ayers... still Obama didn't know about Ayers past? His wife says everybody in Chicago who's in politics knows Ayers... not just her husband. So, now they do know Ayers? And she says Chicago politicians all know ayers... LOL, do you know how corrupt Chicago politics is? I'll answer more... I'll let you read this first.

Posted by: KAustin1 | October 10, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

"ngeisler, and how many babies have I kiloed you honorless Twit?"

Yes, I can see by your hostility that you're full of Honour. I don't know who you have and haven't killed. I only feel sad that you and your ilk equate violence with honour.

Y'all need a revolution of values. Maybe Jesus will come back soon and get that going for you.

Posted by: ngeisler | October 10, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

So sad. I would expect those kind of signs down here in the South - but Pennsylvania???? It would be ironic if it weren't so tragic.

I am white and honestly, don't usually spend a lot of time on race issues. But I am becoming increasingly uncomfortable with some of the actions and online posts I've read lately from the white racists. (Yes - I know there are black racists).

Especially here in Georgia I have seen a frightening change in tone on our Atlanta Journal Constitution online readership. Blatant, cruel racism and the the AJC just leaves it up there. It makes me literally sick.

I am praying that we don't have to relive and relearn the lessons of the civil rights era should Obama win.

Here is another indicator of our strange politics this year. A parking lot owner in NC who put up a sign banning cars with Obama stickers:

Posted by: MollieKaye | October 10, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

KAustin1 - I was speaking of Rev. Wright. I don't know enough about Ayres to comment.

Posted by: ngeisler | October 10, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I am a conservative and I am ashamed of McCain. He lost my vote when he didn't stand up against the bailout. I have watched the youtube videos of the people gathering at their rallies and it is disturbing.
Like it or not Obama is a Senator and a Presidential candidate, he graduated top of his class at harvard after rising from very difficult circumstances, he then dedicated himself to the people of this country. He DESERVES your respect and even though I do not agree with his policies he has mine.
We could have and should have nominated Ron Paul and any Republican who votes for McCain should have their heads and hearts examined.

Posted by: dawnisis | October 10, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

mccain and palin will have the same fate as lee atwater's.

Posted by: RIVASF1@WESTAT.COM | October 10, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I thought we'd seen the worst of divisive, low-ball national campaigning. Blame the power-behind-the-"throne" for what we're seeing now. You may believe, if you wish, that John McCain - after one or two brief meetings - plucked Sarah Palin out of a hat. More likely, desperate conservative political operatives schemed and essentially forced the choice down McCain's throat. Does that mean that they've got "dirtier dirt" yet on Sen. McCain?

I'm disappointed to see so many clingers-on who, despite the fact that 8 years of Republican dominance in Washington have failed them where it counts most - in the pocketbook, still cheer and chant for these two impostors. Again, it seems that in a losing strategy, the desire is to sour the country and continue bitter divisions that will make governance difficult and less effective than if Americans could pull together in this economic downturn and difficult international environment. Such calculation should not be discounted. There are enough types whose interest is only power and money which they see through control of the nation's resources who will use any means to keep the shady but influential places they've held through the last eight years. Perhaps I digress; only perhaps.

Posted by: Jazzman7 | October 10, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse


so which is it? does he or does he not know ayer's background. Or is this the same as Wright's issue where Obama loves him as a spiritual leader, went to I can't condemn him, to I didn't know his views (even afer 20 yrs of realtionship), to his views are detestable. My head is spinning just to keep up w/the response.

Noone is blaming Obama for Ayers actions of the past... but his judgement on remaining assoc w/this man and lying to the people is questionable.

Did you also know that Obama was the distributor of the $$ Ayers obtained for the education reform for all those years. Did you also know that the $$ did not go to the Chicago public school, but rather to Ayers special groups and other specialty groups that teaches not math/science, but socialistic views? Good way to brainwash childrens heads. Did you also know that they think it's okay to push political views in school? I don't know about you... but I don't want my children be influenced by one-sided views... They need to learn it for themselves through life.

Did you also know that Obama's book says that he "carefully selected his friends, politically active blacks, feminists, foreign students, and studied socialist books... I can't remember the rest". I don't have a problem w/this... he can do what ever he wants, but let the people know is all I ask for.

Funny thing is I went to UIC (where Ayers teach)... I had a teacher talk about hating the conservative movement and the gov't... I couldn't stand to listen to hate (not kidding) for 2 days... I had to drop the class and find another teacher.

Posted by: KAustin1 | October 10, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

The first thing that entered my head when I saw that lunatic at the Wisconsin rally was Hitler's Brownshirts. Starting on Nov. 4, Sen. Obama is going to need a security cordon like no one has ever seen in this country to protect him for such lunatics. Even Thad Chochran has publicly denounced McCain for his temper. Do we want such a man as President? I certainly hope not! The idea is frightening.

Posted by: alphaomega51 | October 10, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Here's the bottom line on all this, McCain LOST his considerable honor and respect as a former POW and war hero, to WIN an election.

How pathetic and disgusting from a REGISTERED REPUBLICAN!

My father and uncle are veterans of the Korean War and words cannot even begin to express their tremendous disappointment.

Posted by: ksergiomendoza | October 10, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Whether or not McCain "stokes" it, the anger is there, and it did not arise in a vacuum. I submit that the mainstream media are more responsible for it than any other factor. Barack Obama has from the start received flagrantly favorable treatment from the media, with contrasting absent or negative coverage of the GOP campaign. Some of those who honestly favor McCain's candidacy and resent Obama are becoming fed up. The Ayers controversy is only the latest of many examples. The fact is that Obama's relationship with urban terrorist Ayers is only the tip of the iceberg. His other chosen adult associations included left-wing extremists, racist ministers, Chicago political hacks, and even criminals. These are despicable people who hold no love for the USA, and it is inconceivable that the relationships have not helped to shape Obama's character and ideology. Nevertheless, the media have served as Obama's apologists and have given him a pass on this subject to an astonishing degree. It is time for the media to do its job and insist that Obama answer this concern in a meaningful way.

Posted by: bubba31138 | October 10, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is questioning the character of Obama even though he himself needs to look in the mirror and ask the same question about himself.

Here is a joke McCain told some reporters. "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her real dad is Janet Reno." He never thought that the reporters will print it. Initially he tried to deny that he told that joke. But when multiple newspapers printed the joke, he went to president Clinton and apologized to him.

McCain with his foul mouth and derogatory remarks about women should be ashamed of himself. He is no maverick. He became the lowest creature on this planet when he told another joke about a girl who got raped by a gorilla.

read about these jokes here.

Posted by: MaryHiggins1 | October 10, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Mccain will take us back to the 1930s....Just because he started in that decade, doesn't mean we want to go back there.....Turn the page on the 8 miserable years of Bush/Cheney supported by Mccain and give us a hard-working Democrat team---Obama and Biden in '08!

Posted by: benighse | October 10, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

ngeisler, you sound like a nice and reasonable person... I won't comment any more as you can read these up for yourself. I lived in Chicago since 1989, my neighbors were Obama's friends and the Mayor of the city... You don't want chicago politics for this country... no checks and balance. Their children all go to private schools while the neighborhood school was racist... my friends who had to send their kids to the neighborhood school cried everyday coming back from school b/c they were white. Sad isn't it? She eventually moved. I moved too b/c I couldn't afford private schools. They don't do anything for the school system in their neighborhood... what makes anyone think they'll do anything for this country? High crime, panhandlers at every corner... while all they care about is how do they stay in office.

Sorry about being mean here, but sometimes I think they want to keep the people dependent so that they can stay in control. BTW, before my move to the better area? I lived in a low-income area, all I saw were new mercedes... while I had my cute little civic. But life is not fair, that's why we should work hard for what we have.

Best Wishes!

Posted by: KAustin1 | October 10, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: benighse | October 10, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

A courageous and incisive article, Capeheart. The pictures are disturbing, and point tangibly to a current frightening reality. McCain and Palin demean themselves by inciting all this rage and bigotry; hence they have lost the respect of so many Americans, all the more because they themselves are not exempt from the ill-thought associations they accuse Obama. Their actions themselves speak for their judgment and character, and ambitions--they will do anything to win!!! Taking the lowest road to the highest office in the land, they are proving everyday that they don't deserve to get there. They are, in my opinion, the worst Republican candidates in my lifetime, and have just slaughtered their party's principles and sense of decency and respect. Shame!!!

Posted by: paula7 | October 10, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Mango2, you've already shown you haven't needed permission from anyone to be a racist. I am a white person who is sick and tired of some white people complaining of black racism. It rings so hollow. How has so-called "black racism" hurt their lives? Were whites' ancestors enslaved or lynched? Were they repressed for hundreds of years by blacks? Just stop it! McCain stop the evil negative campaign before someone gets hurt.

Posted by: phil55 | October 10, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

How any decent Republican can follow McCain, Palin and their racist goon squad of supporters at this point defies explanation.

Someone in authority in the Republican Party needs to stand up and denounce the McCain-Palin strategy, and do it soon, before McCain tacitly recruits the next generation of domestic terrorists. Mssrs. Grassley, Hagel, Mss. Snowe, Collins, even Sen. Lieberman, do your duty!

Posted by: waxtadpole1 | October 10, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Ask ourselves, Who is the real Sarah Palin? What does she really stand for? Why does she incite hatred? This woman could be next in line to the highest office in the free world. Ask the questions now and demand the answer now before it's to late. Republicans and Democrats alike. Demand answers! NOW! This is our country and we deserve to know.

Posted by: johnathanporterfield | October 10, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

McCain's organization was the target of a Special Independent Council investigation into the Iran/Contra affair.

In 1983 John McCain was on the Board of The U.S. Council for World Freedom ("Council"). The "Council" was part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. This group along with Col. Oliver North ran an illegal covert operation for the purpose of overthrowing the Sandinista government of Nicaragua. Col. Oliver North solicited funding from the Saudis and illegally purchased weapons from Iran.

McCain was actively involved with Col. Oliver North, in violation of the Bolden Amendments and American tax laws, when he helped solicit funds the Saudis and purchased weapons from Iran during the Iranian embargo. Those weapons were illegally smuggled to the gorillas who opposed the Sandinista government.

The Office of Independent Counsel (OIC) focused its inquiry on possible criminal activity -- ranging from violations of the Boland Amendment prohibition on aid to conspiracy to violate the tax laws -- in Administration efforts to assist the military and paramilitary operations of the contras. The investigation also centered on what officials knew about that assistance and what they offered when questioned about it.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 10, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

dawnisis said: "I am a conservative and I am ashamed of McCain. He lost my vote when he didn't stand up against the bailout. I have watched the youtube videos of the people gathering at their rallies and it is disturbing." ------------ LOL... thanks for the laugh. So, does that mean that you are now voting for Obama b/c Obama ALSO did NOT stand up against the bailout? You have to admit that this is funny. stating the bailout (or not) as a reason not to vote, then go vot for another who stood for the same thing. But it's okay for a liberal to to stand up against for the bailout b/c..... liberals were always MEANT to use gov't money so it's okay? Perfect reasoning! Sorry... had to comment on this reason... I know you must be laughing at how strange it sounds too.

Seriously, dawnisis you really need to re-examine the difference between the differences of conservative views and liberal views. You have respect for Obama b/c he has served his short years getting nothing accomplished for the people of Illinois (but to vote for early release of sexual offenders)... didn't do anything for the education reform that he talks about other than wasting the millions of dollars given to him... yet you say that he's given more to the people than McCain who has served his country for the many years, his father served, his grandfather served, and his children are now serving.

Are you seriously listening to yourself? Seriously, go meditate... and think about what you've said really really hard. nothing wrong w/being young... as I don't think that I am old by any means... being in your 20's is definitely a fun age.

Take care.

Posted by: KAustin1 | October 10, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

"How any decent Republican can follow McCain, Palin and their racist goon squad of supporters at this point defies explanation."

--- you know, there are MANY decent and giving republicans who are absolutely NOT racist. Actually, MOST republicans are ot racist. I wonder... if blacks hates whites... is that racist? There are plenty of blacks who hates whites in the Democratic party... but it's okay when Ludacris calls Hillary a "b!tch"... McCain doesn't belong in any chair but a "wheelchair"... and "let's paint the white house black"... it's okay b/c they're black and they're not racist right?

White children gets intimidated by blacks, but blacks are not racist right? Funny thing is, I am not even white, yet I have to defend idiotic suggestions such as this.


Posted by: KAustin1 | October 10, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

"Bill O is 100 percent conservative. Hannity. OMG. Posted by: stanmart | October 10, 2008 2:59 PM "
********************** Seriously, it'll do you good to listen to both sides often... and then research it on your own. Bill O may have conservative views... but I HONESTLY think he's fair... he has one true hate as we all do, corrupt officials, so you see him screaming. You'll see plenty of conservatives thinking he's going liberal now, I know, hard for you to see that view.

Hannity, yes, he's absolutely on the right... BUT his show has Colmes who is completely liberal. One Conservative, One Liberal... Fair and Balance.

Posted by: KAustin1 | October 10, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Title VIII:
Terrorism criminal law

Main article: USA PATRIOT Act, Title VIII

Title VIII alters the definitions of terrorism, and establishes or re-defines rules with which to deal with it.

It redefined the term "domestic terrorism" to broadly include mass destruction as well as assassination or kidnapping as a terrorist activity.

The definition also encompasses activities that are "dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State" AND ARE INTENDED TO "INTIMIDATE OR COERCE A CIVILIAN POPULATION."


Posted by: IndependentInWaiting | October 10, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama has intellect and integrity two character traits that John Mc Cain does not!. The good news is that Barack Obama will win in a landslide because many of our electorate wee him as the embodiment of the American Dream and don't listen to Mc Same and Pailin the igloo trash queen of ghetto politics. OBAMANOS! VOTE HOPE AMERICA NOT MADE UP FEAR FRIOM THE SAME FOLKS WHO BROUGHT US GEORGE W> CBUSH> YES WE WILL BRIN GTHE CHANGE WE NEED NOW!

Posted by: pedraza1 | October 10, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I hope you will get the opportunity to discuss this on television.

Not everyone reads WaPo - I see you often on cable. Please make sure this is stressed.

Posted by: DOlivervelez | October 10, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

John McCain lacks the integrity, education and the decency and common sense required of a president of a great nation. His tactics will fit well with countries like Cuba, or Venezuela, but not the United States of America.

With regard to our economy McCain showed two things. When asked how many houses he has, he was not even sure how many he has. He said my staff will get back to you on that. Then he stops his campaign and tells the American public that he was going to champion the economic recovery by running back to the senate. The man who does not know how many houses he has is championing the economic recovery package? There is something wrong with that picture.

Posted by: JimFargo | October 10, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

This is a question of McCain's character. Here's another example: Polygamy thrives in Colorado City, Arizona (McCain's home state) where thousands of American families (10,000 people) are systematically stripped of their democratic rights and women & children are abused. John McCain hasn't lifted a finger to stop it. What qualifies McCain to be president when he can't even clean up the Taliban in his own backyard? Take a look at the trailer for the recent alarming documentary, BANKING ON HEAVEN.

Posted by: pixel2 | October 10, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Memo to GOP,McCain campaign and bigots:

Your mob style tactics aren't gaining any traction; the polls continue to trend Obama. You lose GOP, epic fail

Posted by: afgooey74 | October 10, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Palin is Bush in a Skirt and McCain is propagating a leadership of hate.

I'm looking forward to this chapter of ignorance ending and a new beginning.

Don't listen to fear, vote smart!

Posted by: Frita | October 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.No wonder considering his Chicago mob connections.Do we need the criminal in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 10, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Mc Same is going to lose in a landslide because he has no honor whatsoever. I am a decorated veteran and you can go to and see how those of us who have served America in war give Mc Same a D grade. His campaign is trying mightily to distract us with smears and lies but fortunately for America it will not work this time. I am certain a majority of Americans are educated enough to know that we cannot trust the same group of clowns that brought us George W. Bush who lied us into a war that is costing us 10 billion a month plus untold numbers of dead and maimed courageous troops. Vote Hope America not fear manufactured for Mc Same and Pailin the igloo trash beauty. OBAMANOS! YES WE CAN AND WILL BRING THE CHANGE WE NEED NOW!

Posted by: pedraza1 | October 10, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

What planet do you live on? Senator Obama has been "under a microscope"? What a joke. The NYT, Wash. Post, network news, CNN, PBS, NPR, etc. have given Obama an adoring pass since he addressed the 2004 Democratic convention. Only the WSJ and FoxNews have asked tough questions about whether the very junior senator from Illinois has the experience and character to be president. Do you really want a president who consorted with unrepentant SDS bombers while he toiled as a community organizer on the south side of Chicago? I certainly don't. Please don't call me a white racist. I marched for civil rights in the sixties and would have voted for Colin Powell in 2008 in a second.

Posted by: rwe123 | October 10, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.No wonder considering his Chicago mob connections.Do we need the criminal in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 10, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

John McCain constantly reminds us that he isn't always popular with his own party. At this point, his party is going to need to run away from McCain.

McCain is solidifying the KKK vote and nothing more. The rest of the country, including a lot of displeased Republicans, don't want anything to do with this campaign.

If McCain doesn't change his course, there won't be any need for a 3rd debate. He'll be toast within days.

As for me, I did respect McCain until recently. I felt he would be a decent president. But not anymore. The past few months have told me this 'hero' and 'man of integrity' is history. McCain disposed of the Straight Talk Express and now its a rotted, rat infested corpse.

As far as I'm concerned, the faster McCain gets his sorry a$$ back to any of his homes, the better off this country will be.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 10, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Ruby2, and to others who agree with her comment: I don't believe your facts are correct about the race of the people who were targeting Obama in Colorado, so check that. I've seen their mug shots and they are white. Secondly, if you think there are not race issues in this country, think again. You've got your head in the sand. I imagine that incident is not the only one that has indicated some extremists will be gunning for Obama. Aryans and the KKK do still exist in this country, like it or not. I live in the midwest and a lot of people here come from the south. I can tell you that racism is alive and well. I see it and hear it in my own large, extended family. At the same time, it's obviously way better than it used to be. I also have family members who have married members of other races. But saying race is not an issue in this race is a lie. Race is an issue in many things in this world, black, white, brown, and so on, there are misunderstandings and tensions that we all need to continue to work to improve, if we care.

Posted by: cordermary | October 10, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I never thought I would say this about John McCAin, but the Republicans chose the wrong candidate and that is becoming increasingly obvious each day. His rallies, Palin's rallies are becoming nothing more than hatefests where their incendiary talk is inciting their audiences to hateful and someitmes violent yell backs. McCain is showing us every moment that he is out there that he is unfit for the presidency. He is angry, erratic, and more disturbing -- he is sounding and looking confused? "My fellow prisoners?" Wandering aroung the stage in Nashville and into Brokaw's camera shot? He is not operating on all four burners. If he was, he would have never allowed the choice of an extreme, polarizing, relatively inexperienced woman to be his running mate. He wanted Ridge and Ridge might have helped him get this election. He would have never allowed the likes of Steve Schimdt to run a pile of cr** strategy. Cindy McCain would have never been allowed to speak at a rally as an attack dog, while he stands back and grins foolishly. Bill Ayres would not have been allowed to be the centerpiece of a McCain campaign when the country is economically falling apart everyday. It is sad when a great man passes, it is tragic when the greatness passes before the man.

Posted by: creatia52 | October 10, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

McCain's latest gaffe, "my fellow prisoners," says it all. He feels trapped in his own campaign, a mudfest that violates every principle of honor and decency that he ever held dear. If these incitements to race hatred weren't so offensive and dangerous for America's future, it would be sad to see a distinguished war hero and public servant's legacy go down the drain before our eyes.

Posted by: waxtadpole1 | October 10, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

How sad to see John McCain, self-described "Maverick" and moderate, lead the rise of the New America Fascist Party. How long before a mob of his angry supporters heads to the local TV or newspaper office with torches to register their displeasure at an editorial in support of someone they call a "danger to America"??

Embracing the "dark side' in a quest for power is truly dangerous and needs to be denounced.

Posted by: thebobbob | October 10, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

The rethoric used by McCain and his campaign is extremely dangerous. This country is known for having a sizable population that loves weapons - violence and disregards people's lives and rights. This is the real USA country - culture in many parts of Texas and Mid America.

Is McCain pushing hard these last days, for his only possible defacto electability? Getting someone to buy into the fear factor he is selling hoping that someone will go gun ho on Obama?

Is it possible that McCain is thinking like this? It's highly probable, given the turn in his campaign profile and content.

Posted by: iplatovsky | October 10, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

KAustin - Was O'Reilly fair when he shouted down Barney Frank and then called him a coward? You can think whatever you want about Frank, but that's hardly an example of responsible journalism.

And, putting one conservative and one liberal together does not equal objectivity. It equals two ideologues.

CNN's attempt to "balance" out the commentators by inviting partisans from both sides of the aisle is annoying and counterproductive. Each side might as well be reading campaign press releases.

True journalism attempts to be objective. Not fair. Not balanced. Objective. It is an unreachable ideal, but it is what serious journalism is about.

Posted by: tsawyer_mv | October 10, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

pro36 - are you really afraid of that? Muslims aren't communists - far from it. And do you think the events that would have to precipiate that scenario would actually get through congress? What's Obama going to do - implement martial law?

It seems to me that in America, the right is motivated by fear. Fear of blacks, muslims, government, communism, science, intelligence, gay people, themselves.

Posted by: ngeisler | October 10, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Capehart,
You wrote,

"For two days now, there have **stories** about boisterous McCain-Palin supporters screaming inflammatory words at the very mention of Obama's name. Words like "terrorist" and "Kill him!" and "treason."

This is hearsay.

Did the reporters catch any of those shouts on tape?

You'd think they would be recording most of the speeches.

Your link DOES NOT back up your allegations.

Posted by: dumbreddown | October 10, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

The right is descending into vicious hatred because they felt entitled to a 'permanent Republican majority'. However, when they got their hands on the wheel they were worse than a drunk driver texting on a cell phone.

As much as one would like to ignore it, a wounded animal can be dangerous. Obama will need an awesome security detail. I sincerely fear for the man's life and the rage that would unleashed if someone managed to do the unthinkable.

Posted by: tweldy | October 10, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Hey KAustin1 - the term "white man" was written as part of Supreme Court decisions of the 1800's. It does not refer to skin color exclusively. Its orgin is in the 1800's. It refers exclusively to English whites. Irish, Polish, German whites were viewed as not equal to English whites.

U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Roger Brooke Taney wrote:

“They (Negroes) had for more than a century before been regarded as beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations; and so far inferior, that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect; and that the negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to slavery for his benefit. He was bought and sold, and treated as an ordinary article of merchandise and traffic, whenever a profit could be made by it. This opinion was at that time fixed and universal in the civilized portion of the white race. ” (emphasis mine) DRED SCOTT v. SANDFORD, 60 U.S. 393 (1856), 407-408.

And in no nation was this opinion more firmly fixed or more [60 U.S. 393, 408] uniformly acted upon than by the English Government and English people. They not only seized them on the coast of Africa, and sold them or held them in slavery for their own use; but they took them as ordinary articles of merchandise to every country where they could make a profit on them, and were far more extensively engaged in this commerce than any other nation in the world.

The opinion thus entertained and acted upon in England was naturally impressed upon the colonies they founded on this side of the Atlantic. And, accordingly, a negro of the African race was regarded by them as an article of property, and held, and bought and sold as such, in every one of the thirteen colonies which united in the Declaration of Independence, and afterwards formed the Constitution of the United States. The slaves were more or less numerous in the different colonies, as slave labor was found more or less profitable. But no one seems to have doubted the correctness of the prevailing opinion of the time.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 10, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Capehart,

You wrote,

"Judging by this picture -- taken on Oct. 5 on Mickle Hill Road in Warren County, Pa., by Maryland resident Kurt Kolaja, who was attending a wedding in the area -- the McCain campaign is tapping into an even more unsavory strain of anger within the electorate."

Where is the connection between McCain and the racist who wrote the sign?

One the other hand, it's well documented that Obama funneled money to the parishes of Revs. Pfleger and Rev. Wright.

Posted by: dumbreddown | October 10, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: preacherman1 | October 10, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin and John Mccain are two of the most evil and vile politicians to ever walk the American political stage. John Mccain used to fly on private jets to Bahamas with Charles Keating who bilked 23,000 people out of their life savings including many seniors. Charles Keating is a convicted felon who did 10,000 times the damage that William Ayers did. And Mccain really was palling around with him.

Now for Sarah Palin, her husbhand is a known traitor and was a member of a dangerous secessionist group known as the Alaskan Independence party. The Alaskan independence party founder says quote: "I hate America and its institutions". Palin herself spoke at their gatherings and counts them as key supporters in Alaska. In short, she is the one associating with fringe militia groups and traitors, she SPOKE AT THEIR CONVENTION LAST YEAR. AND SAID QUOTE "KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK". What work, does Palin mean overthrowing the federal government in Alaska is quote "good work"?

The Republican party is dooming itself right now to second place status for a generation. America is becoming a multicultural society. And as a minority, with a funny sounding foreign name myself, I can see through their race bating actions. They are forever branding themselves as the bigots that they are, I as an American and minority, will never ever, ever support a republican. I wouldn't support my own brother, if he ran as a republican for dog catcher of my town. The Republicans have shown themselves as the party who wants to portray minorities as "unAmerican" and "outsiders". This will doom them in future elections the bigot vote simply isn't as big as it used to be.

Posted by: socalcrimatt | October 10, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

OK, I'm REALLY tired of McCain being labeled a "hero". He was a POW and I honor him for that sacrifice. But he was one of the minority of VN era POW's that compromised the code of conduct. The others who DID NOT give aide and comfort to the enemy were heroes, McCain was one of the minority who cracked.

To be clear, I'm really glad that I don't know if I could have held up. I also know that I got really tired of losing friends who truly were heroes in every sense of the word.

See "the wall" for a list of heroes. You won't find McCain on it.

I served in the Marines during Viet Nam - one full tour and two extended deployments. We believed that real men tell the truth no matter what. The dishonesty of McCain's campaign is shameful, but the real damage is the rank bigotry that is emerging from his hatred. I had hoped America was beyond that. So many have given everything for that cause.

In the spirit of honesty I admit to voting against McCain in Arizona three times. I will make it four as soon as my early ballot can go in.

Posted by: HopefulOldMarine | October 10, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

If you phoneys in the media had vetted this clown in the last two years he would only get the vote of the most left wing lunatics & perhaps al Qaeda. The corruption & dishonesty of the MSM is what makes people angry. We know the deck is stacked against us by liars in the media elites. You might want to examine your conscience.

Posted by: jbianco28 | October 10, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Two things: First, I can't imagine finding myself at a wedding in a neighborhood filled with those signs. I think I would have congratulated the happy couple, and then split before it got dark... way too creepy for me. Second, I think when this election is over, and McCain has lost, there should be a public outcry demanding his resignation from the Senate. I don't think this campaign of hate -- inciting violence -- leaves him worthy of the office. He has sullied his reputation irreparably.

Posted by: DogBitez | October 10, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm more concerned about the "closet racists" who are smart enough to not blow their cover any more than necessary to push the hate buttons. Palin reminds me of one. Always into redneck rhetoric and never anything to say that minorities could relate to. McCain, sad to say,seems to be following her lead.

As for the blow hard racists who hang all their dirty laundry out there for everyone to see, they will always be there no matter what others think. They operate at a level that is beyond understanding or redemption.

Hopefully some of the closet racists are intelligent enough to realize that voting for skin tone rather than grey matter is dangerous and foolhardy. We'll find out on election day.

In the meantime Obama would be wise to hire his own backup security. We must keep in mind that the current Administration is crawling with racists and bigots, some of which could be in the Secret Service. All one needs to do is look back into our history to see that this is something to take very seriously.

Posted by: inewsmaster | October 10, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, how would McCain define "association with terrorists"? Where do one breaks the link? In “Connections And Then Some: David Rubenstein Has Made Millions Pairing the Powerful With the Rich” (Washington Post, March 16, 2003; Page F1) Staff Writer Greg Schneider wrote: "It didn't help that as the World Trade Center burned on Sept. 11, 2001, the news interrupted a Carlyle business conference at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel here attended by a brother of Osama bin Laden. Former president Bush, a fellow investor, had been with (Osama's brother) at the conference the previous day."

We know that McCain was seen in a golf cart with former president Bush recently. Is that also guilt by association?
Hypocrites use double standards all the time.

Posted by: TaoZen | October 10, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

to think that Obama got full 200 dollars from Ayers - with whom he worked in mid 90s (while Ayers was professor of education. Now that it outrageous.

This is getting sillier by day

Posted by: overboard20 | October 10, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

If this is still the America I know WE ALL LOVE, McCain will not be rewarded for this hate.

Posted by: mobedda | October 10, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Here is a list of the things Obama has accomplished through his skill at funneling government and foundation money to others.

He's compromised our electoral system; he's wrecked Chicago housing; he's wrecked Chicago's public schools; he's wrecked our economy; he's enriched the parishes of hate-filled pastors.

Posted by: dumbreddown | October 10, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain's rallies are looking like the Nazi rallies of the thirties or the pro-apartheid rallies of South Africa.

But at least they are getting out in the open sans white hoods. Now we can identify them.

Meanwhile in the midst of a financial crisis Bush attends a fundraiser in Miami.

Yes we know what is truly important to the current incarnation of the GOP. (Greedy Oinking Pigs)

Posted by: 1FLWB2 | October 10, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

As the angry racist right rears its head--frothy maw agape--and vomits its typical violent spew once again, fomented with calculated purpose by the McCain/Palin hate campaign, I hope the better nature of the American people will prevail and see this particularly ugly side of our nation's reactionary wingnut fringe for what it is: a sad, xenophobic, ignorant, brainwashed goon squad firmly in the pocket of the cynical Republican sleaze machine. This stratum of the McCain/Palin consituency is a wasp's nest of wretched, violent souls ever ready to swarm and sting and wreak pain upon their sworn enemies. Though Republicans embrace this loathsome crew, perhaps the rest of us can spend the next 4 weeks closing the gate on these barbarians.

Posted by: Montaigne | October 10, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

So, we are told that Kurt Kolaja and his daughter took those 2 pictures of signs they happened to come across.

Would that be the SAME Kurt Kolaja who is a "MISCHIEVOUS" filmographer who used to work in "Action News"?

Would that be the SAME Kurt Kolaja who is a "WITTY writer, [whose] PROSE STYLE WALKS UP TO FOLKSY then backs off before it's too late"?

Would that be the SAME Kurt Kolaja who was the inspiration for a Baltimore Sun blog written by Dan Rodricks September 20, 2007?


Posted by: dumbreddown | October 10, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if he wins or loses ... I just don't want him to become a martyr.

Posted by: boesc | October 10, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Hi dumbreddown, that's me. Why do you ask?

Posted by: kurtkolaja | October 10, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Repugnicants have always been sore losers -- at least since Nixon, when the Watergate conspiracy was launched to deprive the country of a fair choice. That's the same tone as Reagan's "There you go again" and Bush, Sr.'s "Read my lips." They know all to well the spoils that go with victory, so they won't let go without a bitter, derisive fight. Surprising that they would be so mean-spirited about winning but nevertheless deprive the troops in Iraq with the proper equipment to protect them against IED's. Guess it's only themselves they care about.

Posted by: boesc | October 10, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Dumb Article!

I remember the Obama crazies attacking Senator Clinton everything offensively possible. To the point that Ill be voting for McCain just to protest the treatment Hillary got during the primaries by Obama and the DNC. Obama was silent while the Democratic party burned. Good luck in November Senator. Obama has less soul than Bush.

Posted by: hhkeller | October 10, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse


"When you have an Obama, Pelosi and the rest of the hooligans up there going to run this country, we have got to have our head examined. We are mad. So, go get them," one man told Sen. John McCain at a town hall meeting.

"I'm mad. I'm really mad. And what's going to surprise you, it's not the economy. It's the socialists taking over our country," another man said.

Sarah Palin said Obama was being "less than truthful" about his ties to Ayers. "His own top adviser said they were 'certainly friendly.' ... I am just so fearful that this is not a man who sees America the way that you and I see America -- as the greatest source for good in this world," she said.

One member of the Palin audience in Jacksonville, Florida, Tuesday shouted out "treason." And at another rally Monday, one member to yell out: "kill him."


At several recent rallies, Palin has stirred up crowds by mentioning the "liberal media." Routinely, there are boos at every mention of The New York Times and the "mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew.

Some audience members are openly hostile to members of the traveling press covering Palin; one crowd member hurled a racial epithet at an African-American member of the press in Clearwater, Florida, on Monday.


At a McCain rally in New Mexico on Monday, one supporter yelled out "terrorist" when McCain asked, "Who is the real Barack Obama?" McCain didn't respond. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."


CNN contributor David Gergen said that the negative tone of these rallies is "incendiary" and could lead to violence. "There is this free floating sort of whipping around anger that could really lead to some violence. I think we're not far from that," he told CNN. "I really worry when we get people -- when you get the kind of rhetoric that you're getting at these rallies now. I think it's really imperative that the candidates try to calm people down."

So far, neither Palin nor McCain have explicitly called on their supporters to tamp down the attacks.

Posted by: basementfrog | October 10, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Today my son brought home three of his new friends.
Their names Rev.Right, Ayers and Rezko.
I told my son to use his good judgment and cut off all relationship with them.
My son said, “Dad I’m planning to become President. I don’t need good judgment. Look at Obama.”

Posted by: jayashiel | October 10, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Ok everyone, I commented earlier and doing so again. First off I do not like Obama and I do not like McCain. I wanted Hilary to be the nomination, and since she wasn't I was going to vote for McCain, and the key word is "WAS". It is extremely clear McCain is not fit to run this country. Both men back tracks on what they say( McCain more so ) and they both have issues that they try to hide. But for McCain to induct racism and hatred is down right criminal and extremely dangerous, and the same goes for his running mate Sara Palin. Now speaking on her, she has many people fooled. She do not openly claim any church beliefs, because if she did, she would be caught in endless lies. She also tend to hire people she knows to benefit her self as governor, they all do it but she is a little over board. Also what about that investigation she claims she is a open book, seems as though that book closed real fast, and who is going to have a job, especially an important job like governor, allow their mate to interact with function of the job. Isn't a mate suppose to be just supportive? if she becomes VP, will he be telling others what they should or should not be doing since that appears to be his role now? I live next to Canada and even go into Canada off and on, do that make me a diplomat? after all she lives near Russia and Canada and claim she has diplomat relationship because she lives near them and yet never spoken to anyone in either countries. What's wrong with that picture? Is people so simple minded to believe her? But anyway I am voting for Obama because of the two he is a better choice and even though he has not proven his self to lead in the short time he has been in politics, he is a much better choice and he might pull of the change this country needs. Every true American should reject the hate and racism McCain and Palin is trying to put into people minds. Would like to see people killing neighbors and friends or rioting like we see on the news over seas? Reject the hatred and racism. Hitler used speech to excite people inject hatred against the Jewish and the KKK use it against non whites, so is hard to figure out what McCain and Palin is doing with their speeches and kicking back allowing it and smiling and laughing?. There are idiots that will try to act on such words and if there is a crowd of idiots, and then half a nation of them....what happens then? Will you or a member of your family be lucky to one of the survivors? Danger is way to close to us, stop it now and not later, because later may never come.

Posted by: firewings13 | October 10, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Hi, kurtkolaja,

Thanks for dropping in to address my concerns.

Did you talk to the folks who lived on the property?

For all we know someone was trying to hurt the reputation the owners of the property.

There might be a good story, somewhere, for you to write and to film.

At any rate, I can't see how McCain can be held responsible for signs painted by idiots.

Posted by: dumbreddown | October 10, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

McCain's Chilling Dance With the Dark Side--------
Montreal, CANADA, October 4, 2008




Because of MAIN STREET!

Because of WALL STREET!

Because of the final electoral sprint - ending soon next coming november 2008 - while THE WHOLE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has its eyes on YOU.

Everyone expects You to be democratically elected and see that something happen in America.

In March 1983, one of humanity's most famous spokesmen, Pope John Paul II, came to our country - 'Haîti' - and loudly proclaimed what each and every one of us had been whispering:

'Something must change here.'

Today, more than ever, a lot of people of The United States of America stand up, longing for something and working to make something happen.

"Go thou America ahead and show us thy true countenance in a positive light.' It is up to everyone to play his or her part in order to let thee regain thy mark of excellence !"

With this letter, I am communicating with You, SIR, and with the whole people of The United States of America.

You offer this country what it takes to be a 'Wonderfull Land.' Yes, let us say 'with a great people living and working together.'

Go thou, America, go ahead, following in the footsteps of one of thy sons who is now becoming one of thy statesmen.

With this in mind, to whom else could I entrust this letter sent to his Holiness Pope John Paul II when he set foot on Haitian soil for the first time, as well as its acknowledgment by the Vatican?

That letter to Pope John Paul II is intended to draw attention to the problem posed by anti-Black discrimination and its negative repercussions on the advancement of scientific progress in the West, and more precisely in the realm of Optics.

In the Western world, according to Newton's widely accepted theory, white is considered to be the synthesis of all colors. Actually, the opposite is true. White constitutes the analysis or 'visible' decoding of light or color, whereas black is its synthesis or 'invisible' composition.

In other words, darkness or blackness and, we might add, "Black Holes'" - a scientific misnomer designating invisible stars or 'Black Suns' - are a source of energy and light. Scientifically, Industrially and Economically speaking, what an asset !

That basic raw material of light energy culminates, in its most radiant form, in the neutralization of all the colors of the spectrum in the form of usually called "white light."

Therefore "absolute blackness", the absorption of all the colors, is a divisible component of light. Needless to say, Newton's theory gives only a partial interpretation of the notion of light, by excluding black. Our contribution aims at demonstrating that the black color is not only an integral part of the color process, but its true synthesis. Light is therefore shown to be a divisible whole comprising an intensity or color scale in which black is the invisible or 'absorbed' form of the energy in question.

Allow me, SIR, in order to support my statement concerning Black Holes and radiation, to pose a question asked by Hubert Reeves, Doctor of nuclear astrophysics and Scientific Consultant to NASA:

"What would have become of the Sun, if it were plunged into a high temperature radiance like the one that existed at the beginning of the Universe? [our translation]"

"Instead of emitting light, it would absorb it and, in the end, it would be completely reabsorbed into the cosmic fluid."

The cosmic fluid is what, due to an "optical mistake", is called "darkness" or the "blackness of Space". We are talking about the electromagnetic flux, that immeasurable ocean in which the planets and stars are bathed, like the sea which links all the continents together. Darkness is thus "The Sea of Space."

"What would have happened if, instead of an ordinary star like the "White Sun", a Black Hole or "Black Sun" were injected into that primordial radiation?"

"According to Einsteinian Physics, a Black Hole is a place where gravity is so formidably intense that nothing can escape it, not even visible light. Such a hole should suck in and absorb radiation and increase its own mass: E=MC2, always."

"But after Einstein came Bohr, Heisenberg, and Quantum Physic. From then on, nothing was the same as before."

"The Einsteinian version of the Black Hole is equivalent to a statement that the matter inside the Black Hole is definitely there to stay, in that volume of space. Let us quote Hubert Reeves: "Such an absolute statement is thus contrary to the "Quantum spirit", affirming that nothing is definitely localized in one place. There is always a probability of escape. If the enclosing wall is too high, a tunnel will be dug; if the prisoners are patient, they will escape. One has only to wait." [our translation]

"According to that principle, Black Holes "evaporate". Matter constantly escapes as radiation. Black Holes "shine!" Their surfaces behave like those of any body heated to a certain temperature and that radiation endlessly feeds that marvelous "Cosmic Fluid" which, wrongly and in bad faith, people keep calling "Darkness."

Nigra sum "sed" formosa!

Yes, but should we not say instead, I am black "and" comely?

Darkness, which is both source and vehicle of light, does not have to defend itself for being the beautiful and infinitely discreet raw material of the Universe. Darkness is the "Mother of the Universe."

Also, beautiful and discreet art thou, Haiti. Discreet, yes, but never outshone! Just like the Black Virgin who inspires and sheds her love on thee from the hilltop and even beyond Cité Soleil (Sun City).

Our purpose was to offer a more constructive approach aiming at correcting the abusive traditional, so-called scientific, theories of Optics.

It’s like to say that in the exceptional circumstances in which we live today - in the point of view of FINANCE and ENERGY - no exploration in the mid or long term, by the american expertise , of an additional source of energy, at the same time safe and economically profitable, should not be ruled out.

That is why, we wrote to that authentic witness to the signs of this age, His Holiness Pope John Paul II, the prophet of the new era.

Congratulations to You, Sir, and congratulations to the PEOPLE of The United States Of America - for having made it possible for this day of November to come - to mark the beginning of a "New Era of Hope !"

Lucien Bonnet

PLease, SEE :

Posted by: loubonnetdH6RcDzx | October 10, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Capehart, I happened to be watching
Sarah Palin live from the Clearwater FL rally and the comments you attribute to being said about Sen. Obama, were said about Mr. Ayers. If you watched the rally
telecast I suggest you look at it again.
She says something about "Do you know who he knew...I am totally paraphrasing..and when she says Bill Ayers, THAT is when the person in the crowd says terrorist..kill him. If Sen. Obama would really answer the questions we all have about his association with Ayers, ACORN,Frank Marshall Davis, Zbigniew Brzezinski etc.
people wouldn't be pushing Sen. McCain to
try to get him to answer. Every time a pundit is asked they just spin and start saying how the economy should be the focus.
As an independent I have done weeks and weeks of "online vetting" and there is a lot of info about Sen. Obamas associations that he is TOTALLY not copping to. I would rather him tell the truth and say he had very bad judgement and made mistakes.
Every one loves Bill Clinton now and how many times did we hear him say "I never has sex with that woman".

Posted by: DLNY | October 10, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

If anything physically happens to Sen. Obama, or his family, his blood will be on McCain and Palin's hands. It seems it should be against the law to whip up hatred of a candidate because he is black or an intellectual or because of his religious affiliations. We have seen many despots over the years marginalize a group of people so others could violently suppress them. McCain and Palin are doing the same thing. How unAmerican is that?

Posted by: northernlights | October 10, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Hello again dumbreddown,
No, I didn't knock on the door, an explosion of barking dogs, heard from inside the house, and a desire to make the eight hour drive home, sent me and my family on our way.

You are absolutely correct; there is indeed a story, or a film, there. Perhaps I should look into it. Problem is though very few want to see such things. American Idle will have a limited run.

Of course I am not implying Mr. McCain or any in his camp drove the stake into the American heartland. A bigot did.

Posted by: kurtkolaja | October 10, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse


Were the two offensive signs on the SAME piece of property?

It looks like they were made by the SAME racist.

1. The lettering on each of them drifts downward on the right.

The phrases on each sign are rhymes.


Posted by: dumbreddown | October 10, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

John McCain, Fraulein Palin, and the RNC are beneath contempt. They have nothing to offer the average American except hatred, fear, and loathing for those who think differently than them. For McCain to send Fraulein Palin the female jackel out to spew baseless accusations against Obama while he hides behind her skirts shows the worst of cowardice. Last time I checked it’s illegal in this country to incite people to riot but Fraulein Palin has her crowd of misguided miscreants howling for Obama’s death and calling cameramen doing their job n***ers. Is this what my father fought fascism in WW2 for? To have these two resurrect the spirits of Mussolini (Moose-olini?), Stalin, and Franco in an attempt to create a world that not even George Orwell would envision? I’ve had ENOUGH of these two. Send McCain back to his 7 houses and Fraulein Palin back to the AIP.

Posted by: caebling | October 10, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Can't honestly say. Mickle Hill Road winds down through a stunning slice of Pennsylvania. Could the property line follow from hill top to valley? Maybe. Lot of ground if it does!

Posted by: kurtkolaja | October 10, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Throughout this campaign John McCain has alternatively projected either anger or a sense of entitlement. He appears to think that he's entitled because of his years in the public sector to be President and he's angry that a younger man has been an effectively challenger.

His anger has clouded his judgement, his behavior has at best been erratic. Whether this is the result of age, a hidden illness or just poor judgement coupled with overarching ambition who knows? But no matter which of these it is, he is not fit to be President.

Posted by: laSerenissima2003 | October 10, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else worry that the tactics used by the Republicans in 2000 and 2004 to get Bush in the white house will be used in 2008 to get McCain to the same address? "W" was NOT elected by the people of the US. The Supreme court appointed him and stole the 2000 election from Gore with the help of his brother in Florida. In 2004 Ohio had the distinction of being the state of note in another election that never reflected the will of the American people. George W. Bush should NEVER have been President. Not ONCE but TWICE the elections were stolen and no one did anything about it. Now THAT'S scary!!!

Posted by: 2iron | October 10, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Palin unlawfully abused her power and violated the public trust.

Link to the Alaska State bipartisan (majority is Republican) Legislative commitee report.

Can you spell karma payback???

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 10, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

WABC News just said that the committee reported that Palin did not break any laws.

Posted by: dumbreddown | October 10, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse


Looking at the google satellite map.... seems like some of the farms are pretty big.

Did you discover any oil while you were in the area? :-)

Posted by: dumbreddown | October 10, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Check this out for a close look at the hate from McCain/Palin rallies (vs. the hope from Obama's).

Posted by: Omyobama | October 10, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Hussain Obama has lied repeaditly and each time he is caught he calls you a racist. Why if 90% of blacks are voting for him because he is black are they not racist. Hussain started this racist business with the help of the media. Obama is a Muslim marxist. He denies it but all of his marxist friends in Kenya say he is. Hussain Obama gave $850,000 dollars to Accorn to register Democrats. Accorn is involved in massive voter fraud. Obama should be challanged by the media. They are afraid to be called Racist. Obama is a
a preacher of deceit and division. Look at his friends Ayers Wright Farakhan Odinga

Posted by: DrRevere | October 10, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

In fact dumbreddown, when I was a kid, big sport was to drop stones down abandon Pennsylvania oil shafts. Wild excitement.

I'm off to read.

Has been an enlightening thread.

Posted by: kurtkolaja | October 10, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Some one on here accused Obama of breaking the law with Rezko? Really was he ever charged with a crime? Was there even an investigation? LMAO, Alaska just released one and it has found Gov. Sarah Palin was found to be guilty of violating an ethics law in abusing her powers.

Spin that one Polly Perfect Palin.

Posted by: AverageJane | October 10, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

That's it. I've been leaning to McCain until now, but after watching that video taken at the Strongsville rally, I'm going with Obama. I don't agree with a lot of his policies, but he's an intelligent, good man. The core supporters of McCain scare me. They are a mindless mob, and they remind me of Nazi supporters before the fall of the Weimer Republic in 1933.

Posted by: George23 | October 10, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

For any "fearful" McCain/Palin supporters who dare to open your minds, check out this letter from the lawyer who prosecuted Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground in the 1960s:

As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.

Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.

Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.

I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director.

William C. Ibershof
Mill Valley, Calif., Oct. 8, 2008

Posted by: bethechange1 | October 10, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

To RealDataIsBest and others who keep calling Sen. Obama a "socialist:" What are you talking about?

Do you mean that he supports health care for all, especially children? You probably haven't read his proposal, which says he doesn't mandate it for all - if you have a policy you want to keep, you can keep it. Anyway, sadly many people who spout this nonsense probably could use some help with healthcare. The republicans have trained you to have a reflexive response, "universal health care = socialism."

Do you realize that the Veteran's Administration Health Care System is a universal health care model? And despite some of the recent press about mental health services, which are burdened by the current poorly planned wars, the VA has excellent ratings for health care delivery and it supports veterans who do not have money or private insurance.

In case you haven't noticed, it is your president, George W. Bush, a supposed conservative, who has endorsed a socialized financial system in the U.S. now. Is he a "Socialist" by your standards? How about John McCain who also voted for it with Barack Obama? McCain = "Socialist?"

Posted by: bethechange1 | October 10, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Jonathan Capehart is duly concerned and may be the only writer at a paper that once brought down a corrupt President and now upholds one.

I am sorry to insult many of the readers here and dismay others, but the Republican black shirts and brown shirts will not be silenced by an Obama victory but only promise to continue their 25 year campaign of fear, hate and potential violence. Palin will preach from the rooftops more than ever, especially after the "abuse of power" finding by an Alaskan probe. Such things never stop Republicans (ask Karl Rove). While Obama stands against Joe McCarthy-type invectives about his remote association with a 60s ex-Weatherman and now Professor, stands against being labeled "traitor" and "terrorist", is subject to death threats in public, the people remain quiescent and fail to compute that the accusers themselves are the traitors and terrorists.

It was not long ago that any person publicly verbalizing death threats against a public figure be subject to restraint and questioning by law enforcement. No such reaction took place at Palin's Florida "Hitler rally" and this indicates willingness by police and FBI to tolerate it.

I predicted some time ago that civil war would occur in America, and the lines have been drawn. I don't wish to be remotely associated with any person vaguely supportive of McCain and Palin's Gestapo tactics. These domestic wars - already approaching visible stages - are not provoked and waged by 60s Leftists or the disenfranchised locked into urban ghettos, but by the Republican Right under the protection of law enforcement. Yes, this IS fascist.

For those many others that are not of Palin's "one of us" it will be dangerous times because the Republican Right, the Christian Coalition and the Patriot groups carry the guns!

Posted by: mbucci2 | October 10, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a disgrace and an embarrassment even for his own party. He crossed the yellow line and deserve a blame for it.

What a contrast with cool hand Barack...

Funny how Obama's opponents end up shooting themselves in the feet. Hillary couldn't find any angle for fair criticism, and her campaign went down the same path. That's not the best way of differenciating oneself with the Bush-Cheney era.

America is tired of this violence. The Obama couple is the best model for everyone. They love and respect each other, they radiate positiveness. Americans will love to have them at the White House.

Posted by: stephanemot | October 11, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

I have been crying off and on all evening listening to clips from the McCain/Palin rallies. I am so sad that we still have so much hate in our country. How counter-productive. In a time of national fiscal crisis, it is criminal that McCain and especially Palin are fanning the flames of hate. The GOP should be absolutely horrified by this mess. These ARE NOT the Republicans I grew up with and not the people I want to associate with. I'm afraid this country may not survive the election intact. I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: LynPearson1 | October 11, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

I am just worried whether one of those nut jobs shouting "kill him" and "bomb Obama" are going to act on their threats.

And if, God forbid, they do who do we hold accountable? Would it be McCain and his campaign officials? After all don't we hold people accountable for inciting riots?

Posted by: ChasYazzie | October 11, 2008 1:47 AM | Report abuse

John McCain has been acting erratically ever since he selected Palin for his running mate. When the economy failed his behavior became bizarre. Stresses on any president in the next few years are going to be extreme . They will be fatal on someone in McCain's health and mental state. When he steps down we will then inherit his Palin fiasco
Instead, we need a cool-headed and logical leader who can handle this crisis.

Kipling said it best:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!

He was talking about men like Obama.

Posted by: seemstome | October 11, 2008 4:14 AM | Report abuse

Pamelaofthepoconos You must be some kind of screwball! If as you suggest Obama was not a citizen of the USA, did it ever occur to your tiny brain that he is already a Congressman? Don't you think McCain and his gang would have checked every item of his background by now? What we don't need is ill informed comments like yours trying to muddy the waters of reasoned debate. I am an old man now and I can tell you, we all slow down some when we get past seventy, and McCain is sure looking tired to me. The signs are there for all to see. No wonder Palin is desperate to grab the Deputy's job. Next stop the Whitehouse, then look out America! You think you got problems now?
You ain' seen nothing yet!

Posted by: valart9 | October 11, 2008 7:42 AM | Report abuse

John McCain had this to say to G. Gordon Liddy (one of Americas biggest scumbags) in November of last year:

Liddy greeted him as "an old friend," and McCain replied. "I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family... It's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."

Liddy, Convicted Felon, Conspiracy, illegal wiretapping, sentenced to 20 years.

Wikipedia says"Liddy concocted several plots, some far-fetched, intended to embarrass the Democratic opposition. These included firebombing the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. (where classified documents leaked by Daniel Ellsberg were being stored), kidnapping anti-war protest organizers and transporting them to Mexico during the Republican National Convention (which at the time was planned for San Diego), and luring mid-level Democratic campaign officials to a house boat in Baltimore where they would be secretly photographed in compromising positions with call girls. Most of Liddy's ideas were rejected, but a few were given the go ahead by Nixon Administration officials, including the break-in at Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office. Ellsberg had leaked the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times.

Get educated people, McCain has a nasty long history of terrible judgment and outbursts of rancor, I won't go into his bit about calling his wife the "C" word or calling other senators "MF's"...all documented.

Posted by: adglenny | October 11, 2008 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Let us be abundantly clear. The GOP playbook which reads say anything and do anything to get elected regardless of the consequences on the American body politic is tantamount to TREASON.

So authentic American patriot can POSSIBLY support such a cause, and betrays the very principles of America by voting for ANY member of the GOP, however far down the ballot.

There are THOUSANDS of men and women who have spent time as a POW. Shall we install a revolving door on the Oval Office for each of them? Having done so is NO IMMUNITY for treasonous acts.

The "slash and burn" style of politics is directly a product of the GOP and stretches in an arc from W to Nixon. Nixon resigned in disgrace, W should have.

There is only one way to repay such contempt for the American public. VOTE EVERY GOP OUT OF OFFICE POSSIBLE.

When one party controls congress and the other the White House, leads to the inevitable stalemate Americans rightfully blame as the cause of our problems. We need a Democratic Congress free of GOP interference and a Democrat in the White House to enact their legislation.

Nothing less will save the American republic and provide justice to the harm the GOP has done to America.

It is time to END THE LIES. It is time to END THE HATE. It is time to END THE GAMES.


Posted by: ethanquern | October 11, 2008 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks the word "lib" or "liberal" is a BAD word is unacquainted with the English language.

Liberal means to be free. It is counterpart to the word LIBERTY. If there is ONE responsibility EVERY American has from here to eternity, it is to SPREAD LIBERTY. The means for doing so is LIBERALISM.

What stupid bunch of fools. There must be brain destroying rays coming from talk radio for people to be so uttlerly clueless.

Posted by: ethanquern | October 11, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

It is time for McCain to realize he is in a sinking ship and stop pointing fingers and stick to the real issues of the economy and healthcare. I mean if you make it to the White House, you really can't just sit in the Oval Office and say that someone's actions or associations make that person a really bad person. So you can get the kids in the United States to just stick gum in that person's hair because they don't agree with your ideology. This isn't a school yard and we aren't in the third grade. (However, some responses from Palin would be suspect.) But come on McCain quit spreading your hate and mistruths for your short comings, and stick to the real issues of the campaign. Even a child can see tell when someone is on the defensive, and you sir are definitely there. OBAMA/BIDEN08!!!!!

Posted by: davetpahgts | October 11, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Yes, McCain would rather create a [Civil] war than lose an election. The actions by McCain and Palin have incited hate-mongering in their Lynch-mob styled rallies. McCain and Palin’s inaction following hate remarks in rallies is an endorsement for the hateful behavior that has been escalating around the country toward Obama. Palin especially is showing a crazed joy about all of this. She speaks like an extremist. She is an extremist. I was sent a video of an interview with Strongsville voters just after a rally by McCain and Palin. Most of them stated that Obama is a terrorist. This is deplorable. One of the Wikipedia definition of Terrorism is stated as “only those acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack)” Obama shows no sign of this, and as a matter of fact, the entire Republican campaign fits the bill of terrorism. In addition, this attitude is one of the ten steps toward dictatorship. The next step toward a dictatorship is to start arresting innocent citizens for terrorism because they stand up for their constitutional rights

McCain needs to be held accountable for endorsing by both action and inaction for creating a further division not only between Republicans and Democrats, but also between ethnicities and religious groups. When McCain supporters make terrorist remarks at their rallies such as "Kill Him" or "Off with his head", and they do not admonish these remarks immediately after, they are endorsing racism. When McCain’s campaign blatantly uses Barack Obama’s middle name Hussein as proof of Obama being a terrorist, this is a direct assault on Muslims. Hussein is a common name like Smith that is used around the world Zakir Hussein, the great tabla player is not a terrorist, nor is King Hussein of Jordon. This kind of logic is like saying Kennedy is part of the IRA, and Karlheinz Stockhousen, the great composer is a Nazi. The hate and fear mongering tactics of the McCain campaign is very dangerous. It is their direct actions with the support of hateful white supremacist supporters that clearly defines both McCain and Palin as terrorists. This is hardly a parallel to Barack Obama sitting in a boardroom with a group of people with different values from him. There is nothing about Obama that shows him as inciting fear and terror in others. This attitude is entirely created by the McCain camp rhetoric.

Posted by: info39Thsp5 | October 11, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Isn't it interesting how everyone here is wringing their hands over how "some nutjob" might commit a crime on behalf of the McCain campaign.

I guess you all missed the news the other day that someone actually did commit a crime on behalf of the Obama campaign, a federal crime, a felony, in hacking into Sarah Palin's email and publishing it on the web. Also, ACORN is under investigation in something like eleven states for fraudulent voter registrations and I can tell you they weren't registering Republicans that's for sure. Your pal Obama has given that organization $800K per year and in the first bailout package, Nancy Pelosi tried to put in a clause that would funnel some of that money to ACORN.

So, instead of worrying about what might happen, you should turn around, look at your own side, and see what has already happened.

Posted by: TXKafir | October 11, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

This is "much ado about nothing" If there is any anger - it is on the public's part and rigthfully so - we know very little about how Mr. Obama would govern since he has done so little in public life other than write two autobiographies. His associations and rabble-rousing ( known as community organizing) are suspect, and the "Audacity of Hope" is really an audacity to watch as Americans' life savings plummet. If I remmeber right "call me if you need me" is NOT what Americans want, but perhaps "less" Government and more freedom and liberty. This is why there is anger on the trail. We are losing our liberties right in front of us. The massive Govt bureaucratic machine is wiping us up. And if being angry is the right reaction - count me in as well. We deserve better than platitudes and rather have someone who has a record of doing something!!! Is it that hard to see why a man with no character matters to us??

Posted by: jgdonahue | October 11, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

HEAD OF STATE: Another riviting piece of hilarious reading! Can't wait to see what you come up with next. That was soooooooo funny - probably not the way it really happened - but close to the truth! When a campaign says "Going negative is the only way we can win" - then you know it has no substance whatsoever at all....
Keep up the good work!
Can't wait for your next 'episode'....

Posted by: gjkbear | October 11, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

You are a bigot. The hate you spew is un-American and there is no place for that in this country. America stands for diversity and tolerance. If continue w/ your hate filled remarks, let me say on behalf of this country, you are not welcome in this great nation. You are un-American. Please leave.

Posted by: Godhimself1 | October 11, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Registering someone as a Republican or a Democrat doesn't make that person vote for a particular party come election day. The actual choice for a candidate occurs in the voting booth. A registered Democrat can vote for McCain if they choose. So are we opposed to registering voters ?

Posted by: mlaux | October 11, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

People now knowing Faux News Hannity shows Ayers expert is a rabid anti-semitic neocon wingnut. Must be a hero for those shouting terrorist and kill him at the McCain rallies. Worse is the Florida policeman's snarling his hatred of Islam, a badge to enforce his sick viewpoint. MSNBC stretching the truth on Obama's behalf is only marginally better. The truth lies somewhere in between and I think all incumbents that have pointed fingers of blame should be voted out of office. We keep on being polarized, we will fall like Rome. McCain tried to get credit for the bailout and Pelosi pushed up the vote without proper discussion to not give him credit. Both get a thumbs down for politicizing the needed fixes for our great nation. The helping of fellow Americans that was countrywide after 9/11 is gone with the untier being the most polarizing president of my lifetime. The McCain campaign is self destructing playing only to the base which unfortunately has more than it's fair share of violent wingnuts. Palin should do all of us a favor and resign after the troopergate report. McCain/Romney or McCain/Lieberman is far more competitive than this fake hero of the common man. No change and Obama will garner over 300 electoral votes as solid red states like VA are showing Obama close to the magic 50% in polls that spell a win. Nationally he gets to 51% and even the 3-4% error rate can't turn this into a McCain win. The president have given both candidates a beyond senatorial briefing on homeland security to make sure of a seemless security takeover. Think about this neocons when you try to say Obama is a terrorist, Dubya and his cabinet do not think it is true.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 11, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Acorn rigging the election, LOL. Tell me brainiacs how many multiple registrants will vote more than once in the coming election? Tell me how many will be disenfranchised by being taken off the rolls. Hopefully you are educated enough to add and subtract, it is no contest. McCain was booed in MN for saying don't hate Obama, he is a good man. The black vote is 12% of the electorate and the born again Evangelical wing is close to 20%, making the over 90% black vote less than the over 90% Evangelical born agains. The born agains are voting their viewpoint as is black America, and prejudice and the race card appears to be Republican strategy. In AL Republican leaders use "Uppity Obama" and in KY we hear "That boy should not have his finger on the button." I never thought America could rise above it's prejudice to elect a man on the content of his character, but Obama does look like he is going to win. The content of McCain's character was liked by me in 2000. The new neocon handled McCain is not the same man and Palin has become a national joke with the latest abuse of power in the troopergate scandal.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 11, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Dance with the dark side, indeed.

There is a reason it is illegal to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre.

Inciting an angry, fearful crowd with inflammatory rhetoric is relatively easy; rebuilding a country is difficult. There are many different ethnicities in our country, many different surnames, many reasons our individual ancestors decided to leave their homelands and come to America. Most immigrated because they thought the promise of freedom and democracy was better than remaining where they were. My mother's ancestors were made fun of when they settled in America because they couldn't speak English. My father's ancestors were ridiculed and belittled when they arrived during the Irish potato famine because they were viewed as taking away jobs from 'real' Americans and placing an undue burden on the social system (sound familiar?).

For those who would say Barack Hussein Obama is 'too different' sounding and therefore 'scary'; I would ask a simple question of you: "Bush" is a strong sounding name, and certainly "All-American"...Have the past 8 years of his administration made your life better? Do you like what has happened to our country in the past 8 years? Aren't you and many other Americans now scared? Angry? Frightened of the unknown in front of us?

"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Let's celebrate the differences in each one of us and recognize that in difficult times we truly need to pull together. It is so very important not take our rights as American citizen for granted. When you see an injustice happening, give voice to the fact that it is wrong. Do not turn away and hope someone else will say the words for you.

Posted by: lindajudge | October 11, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Are you a Republican? Do you intend to continue to vote Republican? You
may wonder why the question. The answer is simple. I don't want you to cut
your throat any deeper than you already have by putting uncaring, bigoted,
money grubbing, to hell with the working man politicians in office that have
gone so far to the right that they don't need a KKK membership for
inclusion. Have you been watching the rallies of John McCain and Sarah?
Palin. Their supporters have lost their collective minds and talk of death,
terrorist, and other vile contempts about an honorable man. These people
would have you believe that they know all about Senator Obama and are
smart enough to have figured out his evil plan for America. These people are
too stupid to even answer the questions when directly asked of them. Sarah
Palin's performance at the debate with Joe Biden should have convinced
you that if you vote for her you're voting for lack of experience, and Lack of
intellectual curiosity about her world. She couldn't even mention a single
magazine that she reads. I contend she probably doesn't read any.
And now we find that Sarah Palin has abused her power in office. She and
her husband have tried to get another honorable man removed from his job
because of a dispute in the divorce courts. Remember this all you fathers
who have been through the divorce courts yourself. This is a candidate for
Vice President that would like to expand the powers of the Vice presidency.
Have you forgotten about Dick Cheney. He believes he is above the law. He
doesn't even think that he is part of the Executive branch of government. The Republicans have draped themselves in 9/11 and the American flag as if they own them exclusively. This is one of vile contempt for other Amercans that sacrificed the same if not more than they have. Surely I don't have to remind you that 9/11 occurred on the Republicans watch. They were warned that terrorist activity was important by Richard Clarke but refused to acknowledge the problem. They were obviously too busy trying to change the ideological environment into a personal crusade to enrich themselves and their already too rich friends. To hell with you and the working class.

Sarah Palin thinks this is just great. Now with her abuse of power brought
out what do you think she will do when she gets the office of Vice-president.
John McCain doesn't have the guts to tell Senator Obama to his face that he
is a terrorist, a liar, an evil man bent on the destruction of America.
McCain's sense of decency is just a sham. He is trying to tone down the
rhetoric at his silly klan like conventions because he realizes that to continue
with the hateful talk he might actually have to talk to Obama man to man.
You vote Republican. You continue to lose your jobs to outsourcing. You
Vote Republican. You encourage the debacle from wall street. You vote
republican. You can't afford healtcare and unforeseen medical bills force
you from your home. With republicans in office you'll have no sympathy for
your plight whether it was caused by yourself or not. Republicans have
proven that they don't care for you. They have gone out of their way to show
you that as a working American you are of no consequence. So why do you
continue to vote for them. If you are one of the hateful and fearful people at
the McCain rallies then I feel sorry for you. You might be beyond
redemption, but if you are a thoughtful brave American as I believe many of
you are then Senator Obama is your candidate.

Posted by: IRemember | October 11, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

The Republican approach of constant fear and panic inducing messages in their advertising, rallies and media manipulation is parallel to the Hoover campaign. Contrastingly, Obama parallels FDR’s message of calm and hope. Hoover was fed by the same racist groups that are fueling the Republican campaign, and Sarah Palin is the trophy warrior to perpetuate hateful attitudes in their supporters. This is too parallel to the history of the black plight dating back to slavery not to take note. We cannot forget that entire black populations were scared away from towns in the South because of the Republican scare-tactics, with lynching being at the top of the message. This lynch-mob atmosphere needs to stop in all aspects of the McCain-Palin campaign. While I appreciate the efforts of the campaign to tone down the rhetoric within the past twenty-four hours, I think a public apology and retraction of their accusations of Obama being a terrorist is in order.

Posted by: info39Thsp5 | October 11, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

It was a relief to see John McCain, at least, seem to back away from the whirlwind of vitriol his campaign and Sarah Palin have created. I'm speaking of his response to the man at the Wisconsin rally who claimed to be "scared" of Obama as President. McCain defended Obama as a "decent" man and said there was nothing to be scared about. Then (at the same rally, I think) a woman claimed that Obama was an "Arab," and McCain shook his head and, took the microphone from her before she finished her statement and said, "No, he's not," and acknowledged his citizenship and membership in the human race. His supporters didn't like it very much.

Posted by: EldonW | October 11, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if the Obama supporters have ever stopped to realize if they prevail in electing their deceptive, lopsided give-away, income re-distribution socialist adminstration through their ourageous lies the people will not follow it?
Americans want freedom, not enslavement.
We want the truth. We have courage. We do not walk away from a hard time. We want our nation and way of life defended. We want Congress cleaned up, and corruption removed.
We want to remain a capitalist society where an indiviual's rewards are based on truth and hard work, achievement, education, personal honor, responsibility, accountability and accomplishment.
We want criminals, liars and illegal aliens removed from our country.
Having fought for these things an awfully long time, we won't be giving up.
Americans sacrifice for freedom. We know what it costs and how to maintain it.

Posted by: USDefender | October 11, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

McCain, dark? I think you need to take a better look. Little joke there.

Anyway, in all honesty, these issues about Ayers and Wright and slum lords should have been brought up in 2007, but you in the press refused to. In fact, you have ranted non-stop Obama propoganda since the beginning. If Obama had been vetted, and if America had been told the truth about him, he would not be the nominee. It's the right thing to do for voters to support McCain, because they don't want a man who pals around with thugs to become President.

Posted by: BettyM47 | October 11, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Let's see. I've read on this blog that it's the Jews fault, it's the old people's fault, etc. Sounds like extreme discrimination on the part of Obama's supporters, yet McCain is the one on the dark side? Obama has played the race card since the beginning. He said McCain is old and confused, but he doesn't want to be discriminated against himself. Obama can call women pigs or liars, he can call women sweetie, and he can give women the finger. Obama is on the dark side. If he think people will vote for him, he should think again.

Posted by: BettyM47 | October 11, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

I've been around long enough to remember people crying in their front yards while I was walking home after being let out of school early. JFK had been shot. I was too young to fully appreciate why this was so upsetting to so many, but after a few years and hearing about Robert Kennedy being shot as well, I began to realize that politics and angry people are a deadly mix.

You would think that this sort of thing just couldn't happen in the United States in this day and age, but in this economy, any spark can light a fire. Losing an election, or slipping in the polls, should not be a reason to create riotous activity. We all love a good fight intellectually in presidential races, but this type of "killer" campaigning must be stopped before someone gets hurt physically.

The whole thing is very unattractive.

Posted by: chick1 | October 11, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

McCain defends rival Obama
"US presidential candidate John McCain found himself defending his rival
Barack Obama at a Republican Party rally. It happened when one member of the
audience gave an incorrect comment on the Democratic presidential
candidate's background."

Posted by: old_hippie | October 12, 2008 4:56 AM | Report abuse

Women of America Unite!
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!

Women must unite against the liberal media vicious, sexist, cruel, demeaning, contemptuous UN-AMERICAN, unfair, unprofessional, unrelenting and blatantly biased treatment against Vice President Sarah Palin and acting blatantly in favor of Barack Hussein Obama during this unprecedented historic quest for the presidency!

Barack Hussein Obama claims a mightier throne, one forged in liberal ideals of justice and equality and hope, BUT he has benefited mightily from sexism in this campaign, and has remained silent. Obama supporters seem very happy with the sexist way pundits and some news organizations treat any action or statement by Sarah Palin, and many believe that most of the "venom" in the campaign is coming from supporters of Obama.

Women of America Unite in this defining moment in American history. To ensure we can grow up from the male dominated government that has caused many of the problems our country is facing; to a country where men and women are equal partners in governance.

Women of America Unite!
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!
VOTE for McCain/Palin

Posted by: Manolete | October 12, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama's Involvement with ACORN Unearthed, Missing
Cleveland Leader ^ | October 9, 2008 - 9:08pm.

While Barack Obama's connection with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) has not gone entirely unreported, it has not been fully explained. Most media background pieces simply note Obama's involvement in a 1995 lawsuit on behalf of ACORN. Obama's own website, as well as most major media, fail to reveal the full depth and extent of his relationship with the organization.

Attempts to hide evidence of Obama's involvement with ACORN have included wiping the web clean of potentially damaging articles that had appeared, and were previously publicly accessible. Unfortunately, those behind the attempted cover-up failed to realize that in today's day and age, nothing disappears forever. There also exists another layer of the web, the hidden web, which is full of information included in proprietary scholarly databases where these very same "missing" articles can be easily uncovered.

Obama's campaign website states:

Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.

Is that really a FACT, or just another lie? Let's take a look at a quote from a 2004 article - Case Study: Chicago- The Barack Obama Campaign - written by Toni Foulkes, a Chicago ACORN Leader, which was published in the journal Social Policy. Did we mention that Social Policy recently pulled this particular article from their website, while leaving links to all other articles up?

"Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar (the name of the Republican governor at the time) and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5,000 of them).

Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office. Thus it was natural for many of us to be active volunteers in his first campaign for STate Senate and then his failed bid for U.S. Congress in 1996. By the time he ran for U.S. Senate, we were old friends."

Not only does Foulkes boast of Obama's ACORN leadership training, but also makes it clear that Obama's post-law school organizing of "Project VOTE" in 1992 was undertaken in direct partnership with ACORN. The tie between Project VOTE and ACORN is also something that Obama and others have attempted to disprove in recent weeks as ACORN has come under fire for allegations of voter registration fraud.

As recently as March 2008, the Los Angeles Times also made reference to Barack Obama's involvement with ACORN:

"At the time, Talbot worked at the social action group ACORN and initially considered Obama a competitor. But she became so impressed with his work that she invited him to help train her staff." (LA Times, March 2, 2008)

All this information was easily pulled up with minimal time investment. It took less than thirty minutes to find, despite attempts by some to bury the truth. If I could find this with little effort, imagine what could be dug up with a serious, in-depth investigation. Scary, isn't it?

Nevertheless, Barack Obama's campaign website continues to lie and deny the truth about his involvement and association with ACORN. No matter how many times you say it, it does not make it true. The facts do not lie, Senator Obama. It's time to come clean and tell the truth, and it's time for the American people to demand it.

Posted by: 4elise | October 12, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

The only thing "chilling" is this article which supposedly denounces racism, but actually promotes it. McCain has denounced any disparing remarks his supporters have made and has DEFENDED Barack Obama at his rallies. Your article is inflamatory as well as fictional. And posting a picture which McCain HAS NOT supported is false advertising! You're trying to incite racism while writing about how terrible it is. SHAME ON YOU AND THE POST for REPORTING such GARBAGE!!!!!

Posted by: drd109 | October 12, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow, the "Main Stream Media" is biased for Obama? Is Fox News not mainstream? Go check out the constant propaganda the organization is spewing in their commentary and scrolling headlines.

It is obvious desperation when Obama is blamed for everything that occurred over the past 8 years -including the plunging Dow.

I mean, first the line is that Obama didn't do anything in the US Senate - no bill with his name presented or passed, and yet he also has the ability to bring down the world economy before he is elected president?


Take some accountability. Show a shred of dignity.

Posted by: GetReal8 | October 12, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Scuse me, but what was Liddy doing in Alaska for palin a couple months ago--and the connection for the engagement? McCain... questioning Obama's relationship to Ayers is really stupid, but astute on the side of Obama if indeed he was already preparing for the presidential election at the age of eight. That's one very precocious kid. But consider the slander on Ayers-- he's a respected professor now, so he's getting smeared royal. And McCain had lots of dark closets himself... Palin though is an intellectual blackhole...

Posted by: ardeladimwit | October 12, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin....... The ''High School Bully'' and the ''Cheerleader''
..........begin to spiral downward in the polls....Where's the ejection Button

Posted by: rodhemeon | October 12, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

The ''High School Bully'' and the ''Cheerleader''........................................
''As Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States''
Palin the ''Maverick'' grabs her shotgun....If she and McCain begin to spiral downward in the they will.......The rich and powerful may very likely create a major international military incident.....To allow John McCain to come to the rescue..........

Republican or Democrat....
You will feel a cold chill running down your McCain and
Palin assume control of the nuclear trigger.

Posted by: rodhemeon | October 12, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Why is speculation about Ayers all over the media and McCain's association with Liddy restricted to a blog? The only answer is racism.

Posted by: dustymac | October 12, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Your column should stand corrected. In fact McCain did, on national T.V. , interrupt a woman who was accusing Obama of being an Arab, and in his own way, defended Obama. But, come on. The moment was more than likely scripted; the woman (whose face, due to camera angle, remained obscured) was probably a shill, an actress…Cloris Leachman? McCain can now show his decency, integrity, heroism, (on national T.V.) by defending his opponent. Like when a pyromaniac becomes a fireman so he can set fires and later arrive on the scene to help put out the fires.
Nevertheless, your main ideas are spot on. It is virtually unrealistic for a person to enter modern politics and expect to remain virtuous. That unfortunate, but necessary dichotomy, need not lead one to become vicious, as we have witnessed with Sarah Palin. The core problem is that the McCain Train can already see the light at the end of the tunnel, which may turn out to be the end of McCain’s career on a caboose. So, in a death rattle of desperation, in spite of the truth, McCain's advisors are still calling for the low road, still calling for blood. And sometimes, especially in situations as volatile and as emotionally explosive as today's are, even after a statement has been retracted or corrected, the initial response will always be the response that people will remember. McCain knows, and even recently stated, "The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it." These old-school, hard-ball tactics are straight out of the Bush/Cheney/Rove political play-book. The quote is from Hitler. Does McCain quoting Hitler, during a televised Presidential debate imply that he is a closet Nazi? Could be. He does look like a geriatric skin-head.

Posted by: appelshock | October 13, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

I am SOOO! HAPPY Senator McCain has designated Sarah Palin as the new face of the republican party!!!!

The GOP needs a new face!!!

Instead of an elephant mascot the new GOP mascot should be a moose much like Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose party.

Posted by: knjincvc | October 13, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

McCain is a shrinking spirit where once a proud man stood... but no more.

Posted by: vtcxc | October 13, 2008 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Regarding the crazy woman and her comment about Senator Obama's nationality/ethnicity, I was not reassured by Senator McCain's rebuttal. By calling his opponent a decent man, he implied that there is something inherently indecent about people whose origins are Arabic.

I continue to be astonished by the tone of the GOP! I question the patriotism of a candidate whose rallies incite hateful responses though exageration and smarmy innuendo. It would seem that the unashamed McCain Machine is comfortable appealing to the lowest common denominator of humanity.

Posted by: cheryllyne | October 13, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Senator Obama and William Ayers

William Ayers was the leader of the 1960s-70s Weathermen Underground. This group was responsible for at least twelve bombings including the Pentagon, New York City Police Headquarters, and the Capital building. In a September 11, 2001 New York Times interview, Ayers said “I don’t regret setting bombs….I feel we didn’t do enough.” In the August 2001 Chicago Magazine interview there is a picture of Ayers standing on the America Flag.

In April ABC news asked Obama about his relationship with Ayers. He said “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago….” He and his campaign staff refuse to tell the truth about Ayers. In 2006 Ayers gave a speech to Hugo Chavez, President of Venezuela, and said “We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution” or “La educacion es revolucion!”

From 1987 Obama and Ayers worked together at The Developing Communities Project, at The Woods Fund and at The Annenberg Challenge. At the Challenge their purpose was to radically change school education in Chicago. From 1995-1999 Obama was Chairman of the Annenberg Challenge. He resigned as Chairman in 1999 but remained on the board until it dissolved in 2002.

According to the Consortium of Chicago School Research (CCSR), the Challenge was viewed a failure because “it did not achieve its goal of improvement in student academic achievement and nonacademic outcomes.” Plus, it wasted millions of dollars and public service employees’ time. This is Obama’s only leadership experience.

Obama's Lost Annenberg Years Coming to Light, American Thinker, August 21, 2008, By Thomas Lifson.
Obama, Ayers, and the Annenberg Challenge Cover-Up, Pajamas Media, August 22, 2008 by Tom Maguire.
No Regrets, Chicago Magazine, August 2001 issue.
No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; The New York Times, September 11, 2001, by Dinitia Smith.

Posted by: runmon | October 13, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Obama camp downplays payments to ACORN
Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:55:26 PM · by Red Steel · 17 replies · 329+ views
Washington Times ^ | Friday, October 10, 2008 | S.A. Miller

Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama's campaign distanced itself Thursday from its $800,000 payment linked to the liberal ACORN organization, which is under investigation in several states where it is suspected of filing fraudulent voter registrations. Federal Election Commission reports show ACORN-affiliated Citizens Services Inc. got $832,598 from the Obama campaign for get-out-the-vote work during the primaries. But those payments stopped in May and the Obama campaign says they should not be an election issue. "This is going to be an historic election with unprecedented voter participation, and we are committed to protecting the integrity of the voting process," Obama...

The New York Post counts 15 states where ACORN's been doing vote fraud.
Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:55:48 AM · by est1995 · 35 replies · 938+ views | Thursday, October 9, 2008 | The New York Post

Vote-Fraud-A-Go-Go Let every vote count, is the Democratic Party's mantra these days. That slogan might better be: Let every vote count as often as we need to win. Such, at any rate, are the tactics of ACORN, Barack Obama's favorite "community organizers," and its Project Vote - of which, the Democratic presidential candidate has boasted, "I started working as the director... here in Chicago." ACORN has been implicated in voter-fraud schemes in 15 states - including Ohio, from where The Post's Jeane MacIntosh reports today that a Board of Elections investigation has unearthed evidence of widespread voter fraud.

Posted by: runmon | October 13, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Obama has less government experience than Palin and 20 years less than McCain. He has been a senator for only three years and two of those years he has been flying around the country running for President.

Obama hasn’t told the truth about Bill Ayers the Weather Underground bomber. He and Ayers worked together from 1987-2002 at the Woods Fund, The Developing Community Project, The Joyce Foundation, and at the Annenberg Challenge. Obama has not told the truth about slum lord Tony Rezko. He helped Rezko get city contracts worth millions of dollars and defended him in court. Rezko returned the favor by both donating and raising over $200,000 for Obama’s early campaigns and he helped Obama buy his mansion in Hyde Park.

Jim Johnson CEO of Fannie Mae from 1991-98 and Franklin Raines CEO of Fannie Mae 1999-2004 both inflated earnings and took millions in salary bonuses. Both of these men are at the heart of the sub-prime mortgage mess and both worked for Obama as advisors.

The news media are supporting and protecting Obama. For two years they have crammed Obama down our throats with feel good fluff stores about him. When are they going to send lawyers, reporters, and staff to Chicago and all over Illinois like they have Alaska? When are they going to investigate Obama as thoroughly as Palin? They are so deep in his pocket they can't see whether it's daylight or dark outside.

This is why Republicans are angry.

Posted by: runmon | October 13, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Head of State

Sunday, October 12, 2008
The Paranoid Style Meets The Issue of Race In American Politics

Richard Hofstadter's seminal article "The Paranoid Style In American Politics" portrayed, for the first time with widespread impact, the insular and delusional suspiciousness that characterizes much of the "critique", if it can be called that, of the far right and, at times, of the extreme left.

Standing just one notch away from pure delusion--and often not even hewing that distance--and embracing those whose functionality--such as it may be--is supported by and compels the repetition of these fantasies, we see this style in every electoral cycle, manifesting itself, remarkably anew, in new minds, with the same characteristic conspiratorial thinking--the grasping of an ambiguous, or equally likely, unresearched but conspiratorial-sounding detail or name--into a grand plan, foggy in specifics but surely--as it has assumed its premise--secretly lurching towards an all powerful hegemony.

As always, they give people too much credit. As always, they are among the bitter powerless, whose manifest lack of explanation for that lack of power turns itself into a bitter projection--if they can't have it, their secret masters must, and so on. It gives them a path to power through projection--they see the secret truth, and gain power through it's proclamation--thus "None Dare Call It Conspiracy", thus the "Clinton Chronicles", thus "9/11 Truth", etc. etc.

Each election cycle, the impulse forces itself to burgeon anew, straining to fit facts to its preexisting need, straining to grow into the dark.

Now--it becomes interesting.

Here--we have a candidate whose power combines with the fact that he is the first of a long oppressed minority to rise to this position. How, we might ask, will this impulse find a way to strain itself upwards towards conspiratorial theories of all embracing power? A challenge to the force of the delusional impulse.

In the last few weeks, we have been seeing the development of this narrative.

Touch him with the brush of radicalism--despite the fact that Obama's adult life story has been one of consensus-building and unifying--a clear and deliberate move towards the shared need, and away from the radical fringe. The key has been to forge the conspiratorial, paranoid impulse with racial fears, to create the combined message: You don't know who he really is.

As in: "Who really is Barack Obama?"

This lights the torch to the paranoid style in full force, turning it upon ill-formed objects--Bill Ayers, ACORN, that by their mere sound and invocation, can be whipped by this eternal historical force into a storm of hatred. To those prone to such thinking, these become absolute evidence, touchstones, the words they have been waiting for.

For the conspiratorialist, the obvious and central characteristic of Obama's personality--the move to unify, which is inherent in his speech, actions and development, is--as is so often the case in this style--evidence of its opposite. Of course, if he were in fact a radically divisive figure, this would also serve as evidence of the same "radical" characteristic. That's the paranoid style--either it's there, or it's masterfully hidden: Heads I win, tails you lose (at least until medicated).

You likely have seen this kind of thinking developing on the outer edges of the message boards and twittering over recent months.

However, it was only with the cementing of the McCain-Palin team that the style has begun to grow into its fuller portrayal. Each of the two essential elements of the admixture is used to reinforce the other--"Radicalism"--Bill Ayers, ACORN--provides license, justification and cover to those who experience a deeper prejudice, and that very prejudice leads those who experience it to draw in unexamined, tangential "evidence" to prove to themselves or others his inauthenticity or "radicalism."

McCain, and to a greater extent Palin, have used this admixture at rallies to attempt to create some form of enthusiasm in the electorate. It has proven to be a volatile mixture, this new alloy of the paranoid style, and, in their efforts to provide some spark to a moribund campaign, they have been unable to keep this lightning in the bottle.

The remarkable and horrifying shouts we have heard over the past weeks did not originate with this campaign--but they were liberated by it, allowing this raw and stark version of the paranoid style to be unleashed by and feed off of these insinuations. We have seen this kind of visceral unleashing of the paranoid style, driven by fear and the impulsive, momentary, compensatory power of stereotypic hatred before, in other nations. Not here, and not in this way.

There are limits to winning--and losing--ugly. And there are ways to fan and contain the paranoid style. I suspect that Plain believes that she is speaking the plain truth to these audiences--and that there is a plain truth to be spoken, and that she already knows what it is--and no more.

It is John McCain's responsibility to put this darker manifestation of a dangerous and unnecessary dybbyk back in the bottle. I can see he understands what has been released--and perhaps would wish to retain just those parts that could meet his ambitions, without its consequent furies.

Just as you would rather lose an election than lose a war, John--I believe that you would rather lose an election than to unleash, justify, imprint and allow this distorted vision on this society. It was not you, it is not you, and it should not be you or us. Consider it your newest, and your best, call to courage.

Head of State

Posted by: caraprado1 | October 13, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Howard Kurtz is right in his column today when he says the media has hyped the supposed anti-Obama behavior at McCain rallies. It's even more infuriating to note that the media didn't even notice in the Democratic primary when Congressman Lewis joined the Obama camp's egregious attempts to smear both Hillary and Bill Clinton as racists in order to increase African-American support for Obama.

Obama's online shock troops were also doing their best to incite race riots. The Huffington Post, in typical tabloid style, was actually running stories accusing the Clinton campaign of darkening Obama's skin in their ads, while the netroots set the internet on fire with their faux rage.

All of the above was deemed acceptable by the media, both MSM and blogosphere, as it benefitted the candidate selected by the DNC, superdelegats, and the media's own good old boys network.

The lesson taught by the Democratic primary is that your vote as an American citizen means absolutely nothing.

Posted by: ichief | October 13, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Why don’t folks just go back to your trailer parks and deep-fry some Oreos while you’re ironing your white sheets. You are going to have to come to grips with the reality this country will have an educated pragmatic individual occupying the white house. By the way that little dustup (ya know the one they call the civil war) a few years back well all of the bigoted ignorant people of this country did loose that one (no kidding).If you have taken offence to this statement you are obviously guilty of being a ignorant bigoted small minded worthless piece of garbadge.Thank you and have a nice day 

Posted by: pragman | October 13, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

The only "Dark Side" is the GOP apparatus pulling out all stops in a desparate attempt to use the G. Bush model once again. Clearly, Sen. McCain is refusing these efforts to retain some degree of respect

Posted by: iwengrow | October 13, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I was at the Waukesha, WI McCain Palin Rally and I saw frustration more then any real anger. The frustration was with mostly the media. No one yelled "off with his head" nothing dark and scary came from the crowd.

What I do see is a lot of dark, evil crap coming from the liberals. I see so much ugliness coming from the left that is very scary. All we hear from the media is the anger on the right. The media needs to look at the left, because the right is not the scary ones.

Another thing I am tired hearing is if you don't agree with Obama or question his background you are an ugly racist. The only ones talking race is the democrats and it is getting old.

Posted by: sbindrim | October 13, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

What do you think about the Obama campaign contributing $800,000 to ACORN, a group that has been and is currently under investigation for massive voter registration fraud in at least 10 states? ACORN offices in Nevada were raided last week by the FBI. This is the first time a presidential candidate has done such a thing.

Google ACORN not just on voter registration fraud but about its role in the financial meltdown and Obama's tactics. He is intimately involved with this group as advisor and one time legal counsel. He certainly supported giving mortgages to those who cannot afford to pay them off...see YouTube and article below. The mainstream press is giving him a free pass. I think McCain has an obligation to tell the voters about this man. He shouldn’t have to. But the press certainly is not doing its job, taking a politician’s word at face value.

Start here.

NRO "Planting Seeds of Disaster" by Stanley Kurtz

Posted by: joanig | October 13, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

rudy2 will never be able to back up his claim that the men accused of threatening obama's life were black because it's simply not true. I beleive that most republicans want the same thing that democrats want,a fair chance at having the best quality of life possible. However, when mccain/palin and other republicans distort the truth or straight out lie about everything, it makes it even harder to believe in the republican party. I wouldnt vote for mccain/palin now no matter what comes out of their mouths. They are not to be trusted.

Posted by: sroulette6 | October 13, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Why this Monday morning after Palin is found Guilty in Troopergate is the media, including the Post quiet about this? Are you guys afraid of the GOP?

Posted by: paul41 | October 13, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness the smears and lies of the radical right are not working :-)

Posted by: Gipper1 | October 13, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

My 79 year old father has a compulsion to pick up litter and throw it away. I know, yuk. Last week when he drove from Mass. to NH to visit me, at a rest stop he picked up a donut box and it fell open. Written inside with marker was "Kill Obama." He felt that particularly Sarah Palin's incendiary comments at her rallies and the continued use of the words "palling around with (plural) terroristS" were creating a mob mentality that is permeating the base. And what if Barack Obama were behaving in this manner???? He would be labeled as a Black Panther!!! Certainly not a good sportsman!!!

Am I the only person who noticed John McCain say to the Black man at the town hall "You probably never heard of Fannie and Freddie until this past month?". Is this not about race? You betcha it is!

Posted by: LeftyinNH | October 13, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Lipstick pig dog lady expects every thing that comes out of her mouth to be taken as bible, she is very impressed with herself and her presumed talents.12 year olds can google about the findings of the BIPARTISON trooper gate report, but she claims she was found completely innocent –seeing Russia on a clear day “energies expert”—eBay plains—Not like us, pallin around terrorist type people—More bridge crap than we can’t get her to understand like HEY LADIE YOUR LIEING!!!. An intelligent person could go on and on for a couple of hours. With Americans prospects for the future looking as scary as they are to have the GOP try to cram this Palin person down are throats is sad and angering, but worst of all having this Palin take the debate to such a disgusting level with such genuine bile and contempt insults me to the point were my true thoughts are eat sh^t you Nazi b^tch.
Sorry but that is the response that she disserves.

Posted by: pragman | October 13, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone considered that the clowns making really stupid comments at the McCain rallies are actually Democratic shills? My guess is, "NO." It would provide just the fodder that is being thrown about in reaction to this Capehart article.

Here's something to think about. What could be more racist than 95% of blacks voting for Obama BECAUSE he's black (or half-black; he's apparently ashamed of his "white" half), while they don't even know who he is (after 4 years), or what he stands for. And yet, whites are called "racist" if they don't vote for him "..because he's black." God help us, America!

Posted by: Boray1 | October 13, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, there is disgusting and despicable behavior in both camps and at both candidates' rallies, but the Washington Post doesn't seem as outraged or concerned by bad behavior by Obama supporters. Let's hope the Post will begin reporting fairly and objectively after their candidate is elected and the real work begins.

Posted by: DianaTravis | October 13, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

"So the McCain camp is trying to raise doubts about Barack Obama -- even though the Illinois senator has been on the national stage for four years and has been under the presidential campaign microscope for the last 20 months."

What presidential campaign microscope is he referring to? I have never seen a candidate receive such praise from the media. He hasn't been subjected to half the microscope that McCain has. Don't even get me started on what the media/democrats have put Palin through. Why doesn't main stream media talk to people from Obama's old district in Chicago, heck, just take a few pictures. I imagine that it's an Oasis in the ghettos of Chicago since Lord Obama can seemingly perform miracles. Guess what, I have seen some pictures and it's a slum. The only people that truly support him from his old district are the ones on his payroll. Of course we don't hear that on the 6:00 news. How about the 105k campaign contributions from Fannie and Freddie. That never made the "main stream". Why? Because the media refuses to go after Obama. We haven't had the least bit of the so called "presidential campaign microscope" since the Democrat primary. The Clintons sure did help the media find Rev. Wright, Ayers, etc. If you can't see the media preference to the left in this election you had better be deaf and blind.

Posted by: Al-in-Indy | October 13, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

i think both candiadates are going to far and is too worried about winning to actually see there pinning us against each other and we don't need that at least not in this world today!!!!!

Posted by: shannon-taz | October 13, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

How many news papers are owned by Gannet (91)? Chicago tribune or tribune media /LA Times / FOX.
Pease take some time to look this up.

Posted by: pragman | October 13, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Read this about from regarding Sarah Palin's recent and disturbing involvement with the Alaskan Independence Party. She may not have been a member, but these extremist and they helped start her policial career. The even said they had an open door policy with her. Now that's frightning.

Posted by: trisha4 | October 13, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I am deeply concerned about the rallies Ms Palin has been hosting. Would she be OK if someone were to hurt Mr Obama?

My European relatives were slaughtered by someone like that in WWII. His name was Adolf Hitler. As my mother used to say- never permit people to say bad things about the Jews- because when you leave, they will say bad things about blacks, Irish, Poles, etc. Mom was right.

So I am saying to McCain/Palin and ALL their supporters, it is one thing to bring associations like Ayers to people's attention, it is another thing entirely to allow people at their rallies who believe that "hanging him" is the way to honorably win a presidency. IT IS NOT

Sarah's right I don't see America as she sees it - and thank God I don't.

Posted by: u028021 | October 13, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet Sarah would be pallin' around with Timothy McViegh if he was still around. Peas in a pod.

Posted by: ldr1 | October 13, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

So many wingnuts bleating about ACORN, so little time...

Listen up, you lying dissemblers:

ANY large community registration drive produces fraudulent registrations.

ACORN in fact flags and reports suspicious registrations and cooperates with state investigations. Still: in most states such organizations are REQUIRED BY LAW to turn in all completed reg. forms, phony or not. (Imagine for just a moment that ACORN collected 1000 forms in a precinct and turned in only 650: you'd be screaming that they'd culled out all the GOP voters.)

REGISTRATION fraud is not ELECTION fraud: Registering as "Bugs Bunny" or "Mary Poppins" or your dead uncle is one thing; actually voting under one of those names is another. Any organized effort to cast fraudulent votes would have to involve large numbers of volunteers willing to commit a felony by impersonating a fictitious voter and keep quiet about it. There would be no way to verify how they voted, since ballots are secret.

This logistical barrier is one major reason why there have been no prosecutable cases of this kind of actual VOTING fraud uncovered, despite a massive effort by the Bush Justice Department.

Thus, any fake registrations that do get past organizations like ACORN will have ZERO effect on the vote count in November. By contrast, the GOP-led efforts to "cage" or challenge large lists of ELIGIBLE voters and have them stricken from the rolls on a host of flimsy pretexts will certainly disenfranchise thousands.

The ACORN nonsense is nothing but a red herring; a pathetic last-ditch attempt by the reactionary Right to shift blame for the coming Democratic landslide.

Posted by: youarestillidiots | October 13, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

US Defender,

If you live by your the creed expressed in your handle, please protect the US from Secessionist Sarah Palin.

Posted by: KAM3 | October 13, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain, Palin and the Republican leadership have chosen to make a deal with Satan to get elected. They have chosen bullying and racism as their tickets to winning an election. This is more than sleazy; it's completely repugnant.

Posted by: jaynashvil | October 13, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Really Mr. Capehart? My goodness this news site is very left-wing. I can tell you that my spouse is is American Indian and he supports John McCain. He and Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell are good friends. He understands the issues in Indian country. As reported by an Indian news site, republican Alaska Natvies have reacted favorably to Gov. Palin. I know people treat American Indians like they don't matter or that they are something of the past but just wanted to let you know that not all "people of color" support Barak Obama. Obama knows ZERO when it comes to Native issues. He's already been criticized by some Indian leaders.

Did you see the new one where Obama talked to a plumber who asked why he wants to take away all of his hard work by raising taxes? Obama slipped and responded with his socialist view point. Oops!

Talk about associations! Bill Ayers, a homegrown terrorist; Rev. Wright, an extremely racist & disturbing man who hates America; Tony R, a crook in prison; ACORN, voter fraud, etc.

Posted by: Really6 | October 13, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Even if you believed that John "Maverick" McCain was the medicine for this ailing country, how could you possibly continue to believe that when he and Palin did not personally handle those hate rallies? To release a statement(to the press they supposedly dislike anyway) after it's happened says, "Oops, we might lose the election if we don't make nice". That's "Country First"?! Our country does not need a president who would drive more wedges between races, classes and age groups.

Posted by: goheidigo | October 13, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey Boray1, very good point. I believe that many black Americans are voting for Obama based on his race. I understand he represents something for black Americans, but I believe a lot of people are trading in their beliefs for the color of his skin. The few black republicans who speak out in public about their dislike for Obama, have been sent death threats and hate mail. A CNN reporter was excited to tell one man voting for McCain about all the hate mail they rec'd about him. Sick!

Posted by: Really6 | October 13, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

One week "He is a terrorist" and a 'closet Arab'... now I hear the subconscience message from the McCain campain to "TURN YOUR ANGER INTO ACTION" who exactly are they talking to? If the whole lipstick comment can be made to be percieved as Barak talking about Sarah Palin how am I not to entertain the thought that the message to the radicals at these town hall gatherings are not being nudged to not only assume that Barak Obama is a terrorist and that they should be angry about that but that anger should somehow be turned into action. Maybe they are hoping the action taken by these radicals will be positive. I am NOT fooled

Posted by: TroofSeeker | October 13, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

guthompo, the media bashing of bush's national guard duty was deserved. He did little or nothing in the air guard, spent most of his time away from it. Wouldn't release his records. All the while his supporters denigrated John Kerry, who actually fought in Nam and received medals for it. Funny, how repubs win medals and are "heroes." Dems get medals and are accused of lying to get them. Funny how one of Kerry's main swiftboaters got a bronze star for the very action that Kerry won the silver star. But the repub said Kerry didn't deserve the medal because there was no fighting. Didn't hear him say he didn't deserve his. Really, he said he couldn't remember what the citation said. Right!

Posted by: mikel7 | October 13, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

"Obams lack of effectiveness showed up when he responded for russian attach on Georgia and opposition to surge
Mccain all years of experience brings balance and judgement to postion which wasnt there in Bush and Obama due to their in experience,Palen brings freshness of change and executive experience of reforms that she carried in alaska"

Has anyone else noticed that McCain supporters can't spell ir compose a sentence? Who's writing this stuff?

Posted by: rtc1 | October 13, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

rtc1: "can't spell ir compose a sentence?" What is ir? I thought you libs were supposed to be open minded and not so snobbish. Pointing out mistakes once again shows just how elitist your group is.

Posted by: Really6 | October 13, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Today McCain told CNN that Ayers was an "unrepentent terrorist," but that actually, he didn't "give a damn about some unrepentent terrorist." In other words, he has now revealed that he does not believe it is an issue that has any relevance to Obama's fitness for the Presidency, but he has unleashed Palin to go out and stir up the crowd with it anyway. This shows just how empty and calculating and craven he is -- if Palin's vitriol can rally the troops and stir up their zenophobia and racist fears, he lets her go at it, even though he knows that dog won't hunt.

Posted by: fmjk | October 13, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin have turned nasty by appealing to, and bringing to the fore, the bigotry that underlies America.

The indecency of bigotry is that it leaves a lingering and disrespectful taste in the mouths of many Americans that will cause a significant social rift because Americans are good haters.

Emotions should have been left in abeyance. However, Palin had nothing in her tank other than emptyheadedness and hateful slogans that emphasise social alienation. The people who have embraced her are the Joe Six Packs.

Palin has given Americans good reason to vote against her and John McCain.

Posted by: robertjames1 | October 13, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

jim95818, you hit the nail on the head with your post. Thank you! As I was scrolling down to post a comment with the exact sentiment, if not the exact words, I saw that you had beaten me to it. I find the campaign tactics of the Republican ticket, with it's divisive racial undertones and economic motivations SO reminiscent of the beginnings of NAZI Germany that I am truly terrified of a McCain/Palin White House (and NAZI Germany espoused Fascism BTW, not socialism as someone else mistakenly posted...big difference, no? Polar opposites in fact. Hence the need for education reform, but I digress). I sincerely hope that we can overcome all the blind hatred being spewed by these two unscrupulous seekers of power and do what's best for America's future. Obama/Biden. Our best hope.

Posted by: annioli | October 13, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Has it been completely forgotton that Barak Hussain Obama sat in church for 20 years and listened to the racist rantings of Rev Wright?
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
And if Obama is so concerned about his name then why hasn't he changed it? Evidently he is comfortable with Barak Hussain Obama so why should others be chastized for referring to it?

Posted by: downhillsince1857 | October 13, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

McCain would have had a great chance of beating Obama if he picked someone like Lieberman or Romney as the VP candidate and ran a crisp, positive, centrist campaign (which represents his true self anyway). The far right would have voted for him in any case (may be not in great numbers) and he would have gotten most of the independent votes.

Unfortunately, he surrounded himself with the scum of the American politics, whose only trick is politics of division. On top of that, what was he thinking when he picked Palin? I guess he was thinking that it was "maverick" of him to pick her. I guess the truth is that he is just senile.

These days, I actually feel sorry for him. A man of highest personal integrity and glorious service. Eight years ago, at the peak of his career, he was beaten by the dirty politics of a scoundrel. But now he is blinded by his ambition and sold his soul. I do not recognize him any longer. I see only a distorted shadow of the straight talk express I once knew.

Posted by: Jainr | October 14, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

It is no surprise that, in typical fashion of the Repelican party, the Neocon - Christian conservatives, and the"Swift-Boat" propagandistas, they have successfully chosen to publicly exercise their rights to an active, but selective memory of history. This self-induced lobotomy approach to accepting reality not only helps support their current agenda and justifies their fear and terror campaign tactics, but also conveniently fails, as usual, to examine and make public both sides of an important political issue. This tactic also helps assuage their guilty conscious and alleviates any sense of personal responsibility for their actions.
It is true that Ayers was accused and arrested for of a variety of radically anti-social, violent, and potentially deadly terrorist activities in the early 1970's.
However, unfortunately for most of us at that time, his case never made it to trial as the case was rejected and all charges against him were dropped. Why, you might ask?
All charges were dropped and the case was dismissed because a more dangerous, devious, incredibly deceitful, violent and destructive terrorist threatened our very existence and the future of our peaceful and compassionate American way of life.
Was that person an Arab terrorist, a radical Christian fundamentalist, an Ak47 toting member of the Nation of Islam, or a member of the Black Panther Party? Or was that person an LSD drenched, reefer rolling Haight-Ashbury Hippie? None of the above.
Give up?
That person, who single handedly came very close to destroying our Constitution, desecrating the Bill of Rights, and annihilating the very foundation of our blatantly corrupt political system, was none other than our very own President...Richard M Nixon.
Before President Nixon's infamous "Plumbers" were caught breaking into the Watergate Hotel and Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office,
they were caught red-handed and arrested for illegally wiretapping, planting evidence, and otherwise engaging in domestic terrorism and acts of espionage against Ayers' defense attorneys. This anti-social and dangerous criminal mastermind, would probably still be in jail if it were not for an overly corrupt and paranoid Republican President.
So, I always have a very serious problem with any person's integrity, believability, honesty, and ultimately with their ELECTABILITY, when they are so quick to publicly identify, accuse, and condemn any of our citizens as an extremist or as a terrorist. Especially when they so conveniently omit that one of the worst terrorists of the 20th century was a leading member of their own party.
But that’s ok. Because, after all, wasn't this country, which is still the greatest country in the world, founded and built on years of egregious acts of murder, mayhem, and terrorism against its original inhabitants? That is something we can all be really proud of.

Posted by: appelshock | October 14, 2008 2:04 AM | Report abuse

Maybe, just maybe, folks the United States Government has vetted U.S. Senator Obama. Could a sitting United States Senator be some sort of terrorist, closet Muslim, etc. and still have a security clearance? Have access to secret government information? Really? Get a grip people. He is a politician, just like the other 534 in the House and Senate.

For those more religious folks didn't you notice at Saddleback Church which person actually quoted scripture? Sure wasn't John McCain! Maybe the person who more actually fits your biblical worldview is Barack Obama. Imagine that. Also I suggest reading Rev. Wright's sermons and not just respond to the sound bites. I know, I know, facts, context, actual words and all of that stuff, urgh. But really people get a grip.

Posted by: | October 14, 2008 4:25 AM | Report abuse

McCain has shown that he does not have credibility. He was a POW many years ago. It's time for people to take a real hard look at what he has done since his release. NOTHING. He can't even work with the people in his own party without getting upset if things don't go his way and bearing grudges.

Posters on this blog has stated out and out lies: The men who threatened Obama were white racist; Obama was born in Hawaii - which is a state for those to dumb to know any better; McCain has been associated with "terrorist" G. Gordon Liddy; pastor problem John Hagee; drug addicted wife who stole to get those drugs. Let's not pretend that McCain is so great he has a lot of baggage that has not been exploited because Obama has not gone down that road.

Posted by: rlj1 | October 14, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961.

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954

Cincinnati, OH (3rd) .. since 1984

Cleveland, OH (4th) .. since 1989

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor

St. Louis, MO (6th) .. since 1949

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor

Milwaukee, WI (8th) .. since 1908

Philadelphia, PA (9th) .. since 1952

Newark, NJ (10th) .. since 1907

Einstein once said, ‘The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.’

It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats yet are still disadvantaged. (writer unknown)

Posted by: 4elise | October 14, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Pull out of Iraq?!?!

Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?

Body count:

In the last six months:

292 killed
(murdered) in Chicago;

221 killed in Iraq.

Chicago.... Who Runs it: Senators: Barack Obama & Dick Durbin

Rep: Jesse Jackson Jr.,

Illinois Gov: Rod Blogojevich,

Illinois House leader Mike Madigan,

Illinois Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike),

Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J. Daley)

.....our leadership in Illinois.....all Democrats.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago.

Of course, they're all blaming each other!

Can't blame Republicans; they're aren't any!
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.

Cook County
(Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look 'em up if you want).

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois.

And he's gonna 'fix' Washington politics for us?

Wake Up America!

Pull out of Iraq?!?!

Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?
Body count:
In the last six months:

292 killed
(murdered) in Chicago;

221 killed in Iraq.

Chicago.... Who Runs it: Senators: Barack Obama & Dick Durbin

Rep: Jesse Jackson Jr.,

Illinois Gov: Rod Blogojevich,

Illinois House leader Mike Madigan,

Illinois Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike),
Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J. Daley)
.....our leadership in Illinois.....all Democrats.
Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago.
Of course, they're all blaming each other!
Can't blame Republicans; they're aren't any!
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.

Cook County
(Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look 'em up if you want).

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.
This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois.
And he's gonna 'fix' Washington politics for us?
Wake Up America

Posted by: 4elise | October 14, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Obama not vetted????
He was a state senator for how many years.
For this you have to be vetted even more than the president.
Then he was a member of the US Senate (current). He was scrutinized for this as well and vetted.
Went through a grueling race campaign w/ Hillary.
WHAT are people talking about Obama not vetted????

Posted by: riveternite | October 14, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse


The so called "terrorism and kill him" comments from the audience at Governor Palin's speeches have been proven to be coming from Barak Obama campaign PLANTS in the audience, put there to enable the CRY OF RACISM AND TERROR baiting by the left leaning press....and Sen John Lewis with his hateful and slanderous attack on Sen McCain.

This is the same as the ACORN STOLEN VOTES....

Obama cannot win a popular election in the USA, who expects EXPERIENCE AND TRANSPARENCY..not fraud, lies, and Chicago-style smokefilled room pure machine politics.

The amusing part is how many
Americans are TOTALLY fooled and taken in.

Follow the money....Obama is worth $4.5 million....where did he get it????

Posted by: joelevin | October 14, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Today the Wall Street Journal delved into Obama's claim that he will cut taxes for '95%' of America. They said:

"It's a clever pitch, because it lets him pose as a middle-class tax cutter while disguising that he's also proposing one of the largest tax increases ever on the other 5%. But how does he conjure this miracle, especially since more than a third of all Americans already pay no income taxes at all? There are several sleights of hand, but the most creative is to redefine the meaning of 'tax cut.'" (to learn more read today's Wall Street Journal)

Posted by: ShawninMI | October 14, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Please dont talk about the main stream media, s. palin will not do interviews with reports or press conferences. Obama is on TV everyday talking to reporters and having press conferences. He has even appeared on Faux new network, so he is not afraid of questions. You all keep repeating the same lines-MSM! If the media would fully vet s.palin you all will see she is just a cute non-Intellectual with no plan for this country but she read a good script. mccain has betrayed any respect he has ever earned. He knows he is playing with fire, how is mccain anymore a Patriot than Obama? He went to war--there were no wars for Obama nor was he in the military. Obama went back home and actually helped people. Those people who mccain claims he was fighting for. mccain has been running for president for over 10 years and losing but yet he calls Obama ambitious. He pals around wiht a convicted watergate felon-g.gordon libby. mccain was involved in the last financial crisis(SNL).

We should be looking for a 21 century leader not a leader from the Past. Thats why they call it the past its GONE.

Posted by: AMT64 | October 14, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

THANKS for your column;
Interesting Krauthammer's column stopped comments after over 2500 comments!
the gist of most of the "most recommended was, regarding the Hammer-like conservatives; "they would rather tear the country apart then lose this election", given their hypocritical and utterly refutable notions regarding Obama's associations, leading to bringing out the worst of the last couple of generations' hubris.

Like the young generation is saying quite poignantly; "Krauthammer and your ilk, get the hell out of the way, we want change."

Yes they deserve to lose.

Posted by: ukeman | October 15, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Here's my video of the "greatest hits" of these Palin/McCain angry rallies, with a bit of HOpe at the end ...

Posted by: Omyobama | October 15, 2008 2:56 AM | Report abuse

John McCain made an absolutely foolish choice in Sarah Palin. That is obvious by their hogtying her. All she does say when she gets out is half-truths and blatant lies. Accusing Obama with palling with terrorists? That is treasonous. She is nothing but a national disgrace. As for Bill Ayers? that was 40 years ago,like McCains' POW experience,totally immaterial. Why don't some of you right-wing ignorant blowhards travel to Chicago and take the pulse of the enormous amount of good Mr. ayers has done for the children of Illinois? He is entitled to a chance of rehabilitation as is any other citizen of this country. A fifty state victory would validate the disgusting damage that the GOP has inflicted on us for the last eight years.

Posted by: walkman1956 | October 15, 2008 3:36 AM | Report abuse

Here is what McCain-Palin and their racist fanatical supporters are doing, and I am a WHITE independent voter and a former Republican:

The Nazi Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, in his 1925 book Mein Kampf, said: “The broad mass of the nation ... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one.”

Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels said: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”

Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering, before committing suicide at the Nuremberg Trials, said: “Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

McCain and Palin are racists feeding the ugly never-ending fascist beast that is America, from its birth to-date, with the evil fuel to speed up the trip to self-destruction!

Just when I get some hope that the promise of a would-be decent nation that was built on genocide and slavery is moving ahead, I get disappointed by louder and louder fascist thugs in the so-called "Republican Party." I am using quotes here because there is no Republican Party anymore, there is a totally fascist gang disguised under that name.

While China, India and Russia are building and getting greater and more powerful, our vast stupid population is engaged in racist fascism that will lead to self-destruction.

Posted by: Golden_Thunder | October 15, 2008 4:27 AM | Report abuse


The Alaska Supreme Court has cleared for release to the public the Alaska State Legislature's (mostly Republicans) highly anticipated investigative report on whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power.

(note) Troopergate: In plain English, Sarah Palin has been PROVEN she broke Alaska State Ethics Law in abusing her power in pushing for the firing of a State Trooper once married to her sister and by ALLOWING her husband Todd Palin to use the Alaska Governor's Office in a crusade against the officer. Palin is found by Alaska Legislative Investigation (LAW) of Firing without reasonable "just cause" the Alaska State Public Safety Commissoner Walt Monegan.

I am a Alaskan life voting Republican. This 2008 Election, I will [with pleasure] vote Democrat!

McCains V.P. selection Sarah Palin unequivocally has NO business being the Alaska Governor, let alone, a USA Candidate for Vice President…..


I voted for Sarah Palin in Alaskas 2006 Governor Election. MISTAKE!.... Never Again… I repeat-NEVER AGAIN!!....Alaska Governor Palin is an absolute Embarrassment to the Alaska People(s) and "IS PROVEN” over and over to be an insatiable Liar!!...

How can she possibly ASSUME to possess the ability to clean up America, when she cannot clean the progressive ''MESS" She has created…then left Alaska to run for the United States V.P.? Yes,---Left “HER and Her husband todd palins” Mess FOR Alaskans to Clean-Up!!

MCCAIN, you should be ASHAMED of yourself!!!! This victim (palin) has no business in this Presidential Arena.

Posted by: AlaskanVoter
Thank You Truth News
Posted by: Alaskanvoter | October 15, 2008 5:33 AM

Posted by: Alaskanvoter | October 15, 2008 5:39 AM | Report abuse

It's not surprising that the Klan crowd has decided to support McCain and Palin. Palin doesn't shy away from her racism and McCain has already sold his soul so nothing is off the table. It's easy to spot the racism and hatred in some of these postings too. Just like the vote white sign, as John Lennon said, “One thing you can't hide is when you're crippled inside."

Posted by: ElectricBill | October 15, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

These pictures are outrageous; this,- tied to what we have been hearing at the McCain/Palin rallies is not befitting of any presidential hopeful - let alone a sitting senator and state Governor.
Somebody needs to force the McCain Campaign to address this issue seriously.
Maybe draw some cartoons up.
How about a couple of Klansmen posting a sign on a rural road somewhere and the caption reads -
“Joe Six Pack”
Or how about:
McCain and Palin standing in front of a rally with a Klansman, a Nazi, and a Skinhead in the audience and the caption reads- “Mavericks”.
If they wont take responsibility for their campaign’s new direction, we should shame them into doing so.
I saw McCain’s attempt to say he too had been slurred, - what a joke John McCain. I am a Republican, - and for the first time I will be voting against you and my party. Shame on you……..

Posted by: Searchlight1968 | October 15, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Quite seriously,- Why either of these men would want to inherit the mess Washington has gotten this country into is beyond me. What I can tell you is that the steady hand the Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden have shown us that ‘They’ would be any reasonable man’s pick against the ‘all over the board’ scatter brained attempt of a campaign that John McCain has put up this election cycle. Is he crazy, does he have Alzheimer’s, or is he just a liar?
I‘m sure all the people he‘s pissed off over the years on capital hill (be they- Republican‘s or Democrat’s) are having a field day watching his campaign unravel in such a way.. Befitting of such a Maverick.

Posted by: Searchlight1968 | October 15, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

It's nice to find out from the McCain-Palin ticket that not only is Joe Six Pack the only real American, but Joe Six Pack also wants to murder people he disagrees with. Will he use his hockey stick to behead those he doesn't like, or just blast 'em with one of his many firearms?

Posted by: Candressuhmoose | October 15, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Why has teh Washington post not covered the Todd Palin/Sarah Palin connection with the secessionist Alaska Independence party? robert Keneddy jr. alerted the public to that connection some time ago. Self-censorship?

Posted by: jadler2 | October 15, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"Or how about this one, taken just down the road by Kolaja's daughter?"

Or how about something on a Republican website:

Posted by: deacshades | October 16, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Very dark indeed:

Posted by: saryndipity | October 16, 2008 2:28 AM | Report abuse

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