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The Comeback?

There I was, standing in the press risers at Xcel Center, praying for the end of John McCain's stilted acceptance speech. An address that ate up just six printed pages but felt like an eternity. Yet something happened in the last 50 seconds. A switch seemed to flip, and the droning oratory gave way to a fiery call to "stand up and fight!" The delegates erupted in a roar of approval that sustained McCain until the end.

It was an effective message then, and it's wise for the McCain camp to resurrect it now.

The raw campaigning at McCain-Palin rallies last week unleashed an anger and ugliness that severely damaged McCain's reputation. The "fight" mantra he reprised this Monday is a much more focused and effective way to tap into the anger -- not just in the Republican Party but also in the rest of the country -- about the war, the economy and the uncertain future facing American families.

This change in tactic improves McCain's chances of moving from the senate to the White House. And yes, contrary to Marie's thinking, he still has a chance. Here's why.

1.) If McCain can maintain message discipline (a tall order), he can raise doubts about the senator from Illinois without jumping into the gutter to do it. And that could help McCain close the yawning gap in the national and battleground state polls.

2.) The peculiarities of each candidate's campaign could still come into play. McCain has a history of coming back from the political dead. He was thought to be electoral road kill when he canned his senior campaign staff last year and started clawing his way to the nomination from scratch. Now look at him. Obama, meanwhile, has a history of not being able to persuade working-class white voters to vote for him. While he won the nomination over Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, he did lose nine of the last 14 primary contests to her and wasn't able to pull any of the critical electoral vote states into his column. Not Pennsylvania. Not Ohio.

3.) Three weeks (20 days to be exact) are an eternity in politics. Look at how the dynamics of the campaign have changed over the previous month. Remember my post about my two New York friends who were despairing at Obama's prospects because McCain and Palin were leading in the polls? One month later, McCain is so far behind in the polls that some folks are already writing his political obituary, including my two friends in New York.

Will any of this be enough to overcome the tidal wave Obama seems to be riding? We'll find out soon enough. But this much is certain: McCain's path to the Oval Office is getting narrower by the day.

By Jonathan Capehart  | October 15, 2008; 2:55 PM ET
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It is painful to watch John McCain speak knowing it is all over for him and Palin.
There is no path to the White House for him.

Posted by: Kimmo1 | October 15, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

John McCain of 2008 is not the John McCain of 2000.

He is not capable of delivering a clear vision that will gain support. He should have run just a media campaign and kept Palin in a closet.

The approach of surfacing doubts about Obama and play that card, came off as offensive and lost independents and others who might have been swayed.

Palin is a total disaster, seen for what she is and no packaging can now reverse that.

The best Senator McCain can do is regain some of his dignity and be proud instead of embarrassed about his failed campaign.

Sarah Palin should just go home, content with her 15 minutes of fame (or shame) and pray that the voters are stupid enough to give her a second term as Governor.


Posted by: oldgeek143 | October 15, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain's problems stem from what I call the "congressional debating disease". If you notice, John Kerry, Al Gore, Bob Dole,Gerald Ford, George McGovern and even Barry Goldwater all used the more gentlemanly and somewhat aloof "Congressional debating style that caused them to lose, usually to a former governor (Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush). McCain keeps calling Obama and the audience "my friends", and he offers wonkish answers that may be fine in the Senate but fall flat with the public. Mr. Obama is a senator and is polite, but he is also a trained trial lawyer, so he has a superior ability to focus his responses and deliver punch lines. Even when Obama virtually "sets the ball on the tee" for McCain, McCain fails to deliver the answer that is screamingly obvious to the rest of us. One example: McCain proposed legislation to regulate Fannie mae and Freddie mac 2 years ago, and the bill died in committee at the hands of Chris Dodd and Harry Reid. Mr. Obama (who claims he wrote a letter to paulsen at that same time) did nothing to support the bill and certainly never filed a bill of his own (if he really knew so much) ..so why is it that after 2 debates mcCain, when asked about the crisis, doesn't argue this? It is maddeningly simple: Neither obama nor McCain are capable. Obama is a leftist who is not man enough to present his true self and true beliefs, and McCain seems to have had the fight knocked out of him. I intend to vote for McCain, but ONLY to balance out the Pelosi-Reid cabal in the Congress. We should never again have the Congres and the White House in the hands of the same party. THAT is how we got into this mess.

Posted by: MARKM2 | October 15, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama was not a trial lawyer.

Obama will win because McCain is out of touch and cannot shake being tied to Bush.

With good reason too.

Posted by: Koronin | October 15, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Comeback?
Ummmm ya that is a great question to ponder if you want to sell papers, get web hits or increase viewership. To the rest of the country its a pointless excercise. Do you really think anything can be said or done tonight to swing the tide? Oh wait i forgot Ayers.....ummm sure right. Good luck selling that one. Perhaps a reality check is order....

Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread
RCP Average 10/08 - 10/14 -- 49.8 42.5 Obama +7.3
Rasmussen Tracking 10/12 - 10/14 3000 LV 50 45 Obama +5
Reuters/C-Span/Zogby Tracking 10/12 - 10/14 1210 LV 48 44 Obama +4
Hotline/FD Tracking 10/12 - 10/14 823 LV 49 41 Obama +8
Gallup Tracking (Traditional)* 10/12 - 10/14 2160 LV 49 46 Obama +3
Gallup Tracking (Expanded)* 10/12 - 10/14 2319 LV 52 44 Obama +8
IBD/TIPP Tracking 10/09 - 10/14 825 LV 45 42 Obama +3
GW/Battleground Tracking 10/08 - 10/14 800 LV 51 43 Obama +8
LA Times/Bloomberg 10/10 - 10/13 1030 LV 50 41 Obama +9
CBS News/NY Times 10/10 - 10/13 699 LV 53 39 Obama +14
Ipsos/McClatchy 10/09 - 10/13 1036 RV 48 39 Obama +9
Pew Research 10/09 - 10/12 1191 LV 49 42 Obama +7
USA Today/Gallup (Traditional)* 10/10 - 10/12 761 LV 50 46 Obama +4
USA Today/Gallup (Expanded)* 10/10 - 10/12 1030 LV 52 45 Obama +7
ABC News/Wash Post 10/08 - 10/11 766 LV 53 43 Obama +10

Electoral map:
Obama 286
McCain 158

Battleground states:
Ohio (20) 48.9 45.5 Obama +3.4
Nevada (5) 49.2 46.2 Obama +3.0
North Carolina (15) 47.9 46.7 Obama +1.2
Missouri (11) 48.8 47.0 Obama +1.8
Florida (27) 49.8 45.0 Obama +4.8
Colorado (9) 50.4 44.6 Obama +5.8
Virginia (13) 51.6 43.0 Obama +8.6
New Mexico (5) 49.8 42.8 Obama +7.0
Minnesota (10) 51.3 42.6 Obama +8.7
Wisconsin (10) 52.4 42.0 Obama +10.4
Michigan (17) 50.7 40.2 Obama +10.5
New Hampshire (4) 52.0 41.6 Obama +10.4
Pennsylvania (21) 53.4 40.0 Obama +13.4

McCain is fighting for his life in RED states. Not only does he need to sweep all the toss-ups states but he needs to pick off another 50 or so electoral votes from Obama. Good luck with that Johnny.

Posted by: feastorafamine | October 15, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain's entire message revolves around his ability to fight. Fight Iran, fight Obama, fight his underdog status ... I am NOT looking for someone to FIGHT our financial crises, I am looking for someone smart enough to handle it without making it worse.

He's leaning entirely on an emotional appeal now, he has nothing substantive left to say, all his die-hard supporters are yelling ACORN, AYERS, REZKO at the top of their lungs but nobody else is listening to them.

It's over John, please exit with grace.

Posted by: khote14 | October 15, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

McCain has never faced as high quality an opponent as Obama, and he will continue to fall further behind, because day after day, more people are able to see that Obama is smarter, more honest, caring, friendly, imaginitive,... etc.

Plus Obama has great taste in lettuce.

Posted by: ped1 | October 15, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

A poster said: "Obama is a leftist." Does he have any truthful information to back up that assertion?

This country now needs a young, vigorous, intelligent man to make decisions and to speak truthfully to the American people and the world.

McCain is a 72-year old has-been who couldn't even pick a decent vice presidential candidate or run an effective election campaign. He's not the man for the moment, and none of the petty, libelous smears that his campaign and suporters invent can change that.

I don't want an old man who doesn't understand the economy and can't even use a computer to be president in the harrowing years to come. Nor do I want a dumb soccer mom--labelled as a pit bull with lipstick or a barracuda by her own party--sitting in the wings in case he kicks the bucket, as McCain may well do.

Posted by: FedUp1 | October 15, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Jonathan here's a news flash. McCain has this huge albatross hanging around his neck that has cost him any chance in the election. Her name is Sarah Palin. And, he deserves to lose for ever thinking that she was qualified to be VP.

Posted by: bretb | October 15, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey "Feastorafamine" you should wonder about polls which vary so widely - from Obama by 3 to Obama by 15. I mean, come on, which is it? That's a huge difference - one, well within the margin of error and another showing a blowout. The poll watchers may want to ask themselves how there could be such disparate results. Go on measuring those drapes for the White House Obama, while McCain goes ahead and wins the election!!

Posted by: eedchic | October 15, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign is setting up the debate. In New Hampshire, Gov Palin called the global economic crisis an "Economic War." During his recent stump speeches, McCain has compared the fear of losing one's house/ job/ life savings to the fear he felt as a POW. Which I can only imagine he is actually comparing those on Wall Street with his captures.
What McCain either doesn't understand because he's either so extremely wealthy or extremely out of touch, is that if he paints this as an "economic war", his own party and his own campaign managers are the economic terrorists that hit Wall Street.

Posted by: hbfrancis | October 15, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I think McCain will continue his maverick or is it dementia theme by faking a heart attack at the debate. He will still get credit for attending but doesn't have to discuss the economy. Hopefully, the next president will realize America can no longer spend scarce money on foreign wars. Time to worry about America's problems first.

Posted by: luyehara | October 15, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Bet you we see McCain shed tears at the debate tonight. Since he can't reach us through our brains anymore, he's going to try to tug at our hearts.

what a shame, how far the man has fallen. I take no joy in seeing his destruction, but you kind of have to know - What he didn't do to himself directly was done to him by his party.

It's the republicans I won't vote for, it's the hate ralliers I won't vote for, it's Palin I won't vote for. Cut off these cancers from your back John McCain, I could vote for you.

Posted by: khote14 | October 15, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure McCain's "comeback" history does him much good here. He lost in 2000. Sure, he came back from near-dead in 2007, but that was against Giuliani, Thompson, Romney and Huckabee. That's like coming back against Alan Keyes. Now McCain is facing a much, much better candidate than those knuckleheads, and it's looking like 2000 all over again (knock on wood).

Posted by: simpleton1 | October 15, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

There is no room for complacency in this election. Do not forget to vote!

Obama/Biden'08

Posted by: lassair | October 15, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Hey "Feastorafamine" you should wonder about polls which vary so widely - from Obama by 3 to Obama by 15. I mean, come on, which is it? That's a huge difference - one, well within the margin of error and another showing a blowout. The poll watchers may want to ask themselves how there could be such disparate results. Go on measuring those drapes for the White House Obama, while McCain goes ahead and wins the election!!

Posted by: eedchic | October 15, 2008 5:16 PM

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I should worry about the fluctation in polls? Really?
I guess you didnt notice that ALL yes ALL of the polls have Obama in the lead. You see that was supposed to be the telling point about me posting them. McCain isnt even on the board anymore. He is battling to defend his own territory. Sorry not trying to be mean but the GOP is on par for a collasal beatdown. I think a part of you knows that. trust me i have no ill feelings towards you. In fact you have my sympathies for having your party hi-jacked by a bunch of loons for the least eight years. I have many conservative friends and i convey my sympathies to them on a regular basis. I am working with Math here, the elctoral map right now is not only ominous for Mccain it looks hopeless. This will be a very tragic year for your party. my only hope is that you folks get rid of the neocons and ideoligical nightmares that have ruined your party and that you offer consitantly electable candidates in the future. My sympathies even ly with Mccain for having to cow-tow, flip-flop and virtually sell his soul to cater to the far right and gain the nomination. Now he has to live with the facts that moderates wince at what he had to do and say just to get the nom. Have a good day

Posted by: feastorafamine | October 15, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

http://thecomicnews.com/edtoons/current/weekly/palin/01.php

Posted by: khote14 | October 15, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

lol,you dems always think you have it in the bag and time and again you are shocked when you lose.

Can't wait for 11/4

McCain/Palin 08
True American Patriotism

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 15, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

If you had watched Jon Stewart's Daily Show last night you would have seen his side by side comparison of McCain's convention speech and his latest stump speech. They were almost word for word identical especially the "Fight" bit. Jon Stewart's comment...."Does the GOP know McCain recycles?"

Posted by: susanr1 | October 15, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Feadup1: You asked for reasons Obama is a radical, a ultra liberal. A bit over a yr. ago I watched his TV video in which he said these were programs if he is elected:
1. Global Proverty Act ("Marshall Plan" for 3rd World Countries..Africa).
2. Universal guaranteed health care.
3. Free college tuition
4. Universal national service, like in socialist countries.
5. Universal 401ks (govt. matches contribution for low & moderate income families.
6. Free job training, even for criminals.
7. Wage insurance, supplement union workers.
8. Universal preschool.
9. More subsidized public housing (who's going to repair the ones we now have that have been damaged by the tenants?)
10. A fatter earned income tax credit for the working poor.
etc. etc.
Sound socialist to you? Yep............Obama said these in his own words.

Posted by: love234america | October 15, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

True American Patriotism, sounds like someone's been drinking too much kool aid. True Americans are ones that care for their country and believe our melting pot makes us stronger. Not like us. us vs them, my way or the highway is the polarizing politics started by Newt (I love the derogatory association with the word newt). Their days are numbered as this election will bury any chance for power by the neocons. The Alan Simpson type Republican and not the Richard Cheney type will be the future of the party. They keep on their neocon tract and I beleive 10 years from now the party will no longer exist. Blue dog Republicans are the intellectual members while neocons are willing to follow the leader off a cliff.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 15, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

If McCain had picked a running mate that the country could have faith in this race would be a lot closer.

Hiding Palin from a vigorous press exposure has all but sealed McCain's fate. He can take the "associated with terrorists" route, but then heavy advertising by Obama on the Keating Five will offset that.

McCain needs to re-establish both his fighting spirit and his public sense of honor and only straightening out Palin would let that happen.

I'll watch Meet the Press, Face the Nation and CNN this Sunday. If I see Palin there and actually answering the questions intelligently then I'll believe that McCain has a chance.

Posted by: KHMJr | October 15, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

It's funny that Capehart should suggest McCain go back to his "Stand up and fight" line. Funny because last night's episode of "Frontline" played back McCain's speech at the 2004 Republican convention, which ended almost exactly the same way: "Stand up. Stand up and fight. Never give up. Blah blah blah. We don't watch history, we make history. Blah blah blah."

Except that in '04 he included one additional line: "Re-elect President Bush!"

If the "Stand up and fight" tack ever gained any traction, Obama could just run the '04 clip in ads and take McCain right back to minus-14.

Posted by: jonfromcali | October 15, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

If McCain had picked a running mate that the country could have faith in this race would be a lot closer.

Posted by: KHMJr | October 15, 2008 6:42 PM
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You're right about that. If McCain had picked Mitt Romney, I think this race would be much closer. But he picked Palin to satisfy the evangelicals, and now he has to deal with the fall-out from Independents.

Posted by: smc91 | October 15, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Nonsense. The media are not going to let their man lose. The character assassination of McCain and Palin will continue until the election and Obama will be coronated as per the wishes of our new lords and masters in the liberal media.

Conservatives: don't bother thinking about ever seeing a GOP President again. The media has really perfected the slimimg of conservatives like and puffing up liberals. Just get used to a permanent liberal hold on the White House from here on.


Posted by: bobmoses | October 15, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

So, McCain still has a shot, you reckon?
Funny you should say that.
My cat still has a shot too.

Posted by: wardropper | October 15, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

"If you had watched Jon Stewart's Daily Show last night you would have seen his side by side comparison of McCain's convention speech and his latest stump speech. They were almost word for word identical especially the "Fight" bit. Jon Stewart's comment...."Does the GOP know McCain recycles?"

If you watched the Jon Stewart show last night you got another heaping bowl of liberal propaganda. Nice to see folks enjoying lapping it up.

Posted by: bobmoses | October 15, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

love234america believes that Obama is a socialist based on this?
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" A bit over a yr. ago I watched his TV video in which he said these were programs if he is elected:
1. Global Proverty Act ("Marshall Plan" for 3rd World Countries..Africa).
2. Universal guaranteed health care.
3. Free college tuition
4. Universal national service, like in socialist countries.
5. Universal 401ks (govt. matches contribution for low & moderate income families.
6. Free job training, even for criminals.
7. Wage insurance, supplement union workers.
8. Universal preschool.
9. More subsidized public housing (who's going to repair the ones we now have that have been damaged by the tenants?)
10. A fatter earned income tax credit for the working poor.
etc. etc.
Sound socialist to you? Yep............Obama said these in his own words.
Posted by: love234america | October 15, 2008 6:36 PM"
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I'm supposed to trust the year-old memory of a obviously biased person who wouldn't know socialism if it hit him in the face???

That said, in the light of the economic catastrophe which has hit this country, all of those suggestions sound extremely good.

For example: Millions in this country would be very happy to have free health care and education. A fatter earned income tax credit for the working poor sounds very fair. Universal pre-school is bad in what way? Is socialism in what way?

However, since the Republicans have run this country into the ground for the past 8 years--indebting future generations with a colossal national and foreign debt--I very much doubt that Obama will have the funds to implement these measures.


Posted by: FedUp1 | October 15, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Virginia has many military families and other than the over 60 crowd, most have men in service have to think about their future. While Obama is green and not in most Americans eyes (why? another discussion) as good a commander as McCain, he is long in tooth and Palin would take over. Obama can't finish and Biden takes over. When your life is on the line or family members that is on the table. Obama's benefits for them are better than McCain's and so is the tax plan. I think they will vote for Obama in much greater numbers than is currently being polled.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 15, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Simple Truth:

Obama is a fraud, a liar, a scam artist. He beautifully uses words like a Musketeer wields a sword, but it's all smoke and mirrors. Welfare handouts become tax cuts, government-run, rationed medical system becomes affordable health care, confiscatory taxes on small business becomes fair taxes.

And his very, very radical associations and friends, and the excuses he gives when confronted on it, makes him either an idiot who is easily fooled (which I don't think) or a liar who fools the fools that listen to him (which I do think).

His word mincing and parsing makes Bill Clinton look like a drooling hick. Obama is slick, and Simple Truth, he's a socialist at best and a marxist at worst.

He is happy to use his mindless followers to bring ineligible voters to the polls, and steal this election. He will be an ineffective Commander in Chief, and will bring solace to the enemies of our country.

That's why he's so popular with Raul Castro, Hugo Chavez, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the other thugs of the world -

That's the promise of Barak Obama, charlatan. And that is plain and simply, the truth about BO.

Posted by: MichaelDallas | October 15, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

I hope people who have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the McCain campaign's lies, like Michael in Dallas, stay away from the Book Repository while Obama is president.

Posted by: FedUp1 | October 15, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately for McCain, he is viewed as being too close to the Republican "deregulate everything" philosophy. McCain said to the Wall Street Journal that he is the greatest deregulator out there. Toss in McCain's close ties and support of Phil "mental recession" Gramm, who wrote the toxic legislation in 1999 that rolled back most of the banking industry safeguards from the Great Depression, and you have the reasons why the odds are stacked against McCain. When the 3rd quarter 2008 401K statements hit the mailboxes next week, it won't be pretty for McCain.

Posted by: spam6 | October 15, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

oldgeek143, you put it simply, eloquently, and directly. Really sums up the entire sad state of affairs for John McCain and his pathetic campaign.

Posted by: JeffB-27 | October 15, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

lol,you dems always think you have it in the bag and time and again you are shocked when you lose.

Can't wait for 11/4

McCain/Palin 08
True American Patriotism

Posted by: blevins20061
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Blevins: You are too funny. Sorry but YOU lose! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Classic60 | October 15, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain knocked off his own campaign the moment he chose Sarah Palin for his running mate. Lots and lots of moderate Republicans were dismayed when he picked an unqualified, extreme politics and ethical baggage.

Posted by: osullivanc1 | October 15, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

It's a marvel that the McCain-ites can still blame the media for his troubles--like, his choice of VP, I suppose; the demagoguery of his rallies, the incoherence of his policies, his support of Bush's economic policies, his belligerence, his war-mongering. Hell, why not throw in his treatment of his first wife? I'm not sure exactly how the media is to blame for all this, but then, I don't have the clear vision of a right-wing radical.

Posted by: dane1 | October 15, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Moron Con Econ WMD Terrorist OLD Adulterer War Criminal Corrupt McLobbyist & the Born Again Killer Retard are DONE!!!

Posted by: mawt | October 15, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Yeah McCain has no chance in hell of winning!

Posted by: nallcando | October 15, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

McCain has never fought anyone, he dropped napalm on civilians from thousands of feet in the air which is the least honourable way of fighting in history.

The only people he has ever fought are the repugnicons and he rolled over and played tickle me most of the time.

Obama is a constitutional law professor and so for that matter is Joe Biden who is enormously well known and respected throughout the world for his compassion and decency.

Palin, what does one say about Palin.

She is insane and dangerous.

Posted by: shepherdmarilyn | October 15, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Comeback? No. The call "come back" you heard - that was the faithful 3 supporters in Sedona, Arizona begging McCain to come back and retire with what is left of his soul.

Posted by: gmsliberty | October 15, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

CLEAN SWEEP FOR OBAMA/BIDEN!

That's 4 debates, 4 convincing debate wins for Barack Obama and Joe Biden!

Obama outclassed and outcooled McCain yet again tonight.

McCain = Erratic + Angry + Bush clone

Obama = Composed + Calm + Real, positive change for middle class Americans

Posted by: jgarrisn | October 15, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Dems go ahead and vote for a baby killer, your children will definately have a thrill with that birth control method that can kill them.

Posted by: michelevalladares55 | October 15, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

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McCain has slipped.

He cannot control his own face.
How can he run a nation?
.

Posted by: T-Prop | October 15, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

I am so thankful that the elite at the Washington Post can tell all the rest of us in this country how stupid we all are. To say this is a "post partisan" or "non-partisan" analysis is just absurd. The very first sentence of this article talks about the dread of hearing the McCain acceptance speech. Go drink your kool aid and preach your so called non-partisanship somewhere else.

Posted by: camjulward | October 16, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

McCain is toast ...and this country will be the better for it .

Posted by: beastofbourbon | October 16, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

McCain Still Has a Shot.

At this moment I recall the words of the late Redd Foxx. Oh he's got a shot all right, a shot in the a*s! lol

Posted by: tydicea | October 16, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Mr. McCain can come back as you put it, but will our economy, international reputation, and way of life come back after that experience? The last eight years have us on the mat and the count is at 8.

If he can score that comeback we will all be pleased.

I want the John McCain of 2000 to come back! The one I was going to vote for proudly.

Posted by: hakafos44 | October 16, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

I think what we saw tonight, at least, in Presidential politics is old style politics versus new style politics. Senator McCain is a good man. His advisers are the same dirty politics guys that come from the tradition of Richard Nixon. Hopefully, the American people have finally come to realize, its about issues not personal attacks, that they need to make their choices on. Even if McCain won the Presidency, I don't think the conservative base and his advisers would let him do what he thinks is right. They are just too powerful. As far as vetoing every bill with "pork" in it; he would have to veto every bill. So that's not even realistic. The Congress always forces "pork" to be added to bills that are needed to pass; that's usually why the "pork" gets through.

Posted by: amercrutio100 | October 16, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse


Acts 13 V. 25:

And as John fulfilled his course, he said, Whom think ye that I am? I am not he. But, behold, there cometh one after me whose shoes of his feet I am not worthy to loose.

McCain or Obama in the current context?

We don't even need a fact checker here. The expression that appeared again and again on McCain's face during this final debate said only one thing. And we choose to quote from Obama's mother here, namely, 'look buster, this is no picnic for me either!'

ONLY MCCAIN HAS SO SERVED HIS MASTER THRUOUT HIS LIFE, HEREIN, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA -- ONE COUNTRY, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

MCCAIN FOR OUR GREAT NATION'S NEXT PRESIDENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: brucerealtor@gmail.com | October 16, 2008 1:47 AM | Report abuse

McCain on FOX: "Lose the debates - does not lose the election!" Watch interview here: http://tubedirect.net/index.php?q=McCain-Lose-debate?

Posted by: varniklili | October 16, 2008 4:54 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Capehart, keep whistling Dixie ...

Posted by: orray | October 16, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

"John McCain of 2008 is not the John McCain of 2000", exactly! i rooted for him in 2000 as a young voter but he's not the same in 2008. attacks and more attacks, oh yeah, + arrogant & you-don't-know-a-thing look. i was utterly surprised and he completely blew me away by electing Palin, when there are more qualified women politicians in Rep. i'm an independent and the 2000 McCain represent it. a true maverick will call on his own failed campaign team to "reform" first before asking the country. to question everyone EXCEPT Palin's violation of ethnic law and abuse of power is uncalled for (and she's a conservative? who believes in God?) then what defines a true conservative? it's coservatism include the law she broke? she doesn't need to be in Washington to be a Washington politician. the only time she sounds coherent is when she's on the attack, otherwise, i'm ashame to have her represent us to the world. i'm not a sexist because i'm a woman who wants the candidates to address real world/domestic issues. about experience, President Bush has plenty of experience as a governor and what happened? accusing Obama's plan as socialist? where did our "capitalist" system lead us and the world in 2008? how can we convince other countries we've spent billions of $$$ in that our democracy works? we hijacked true democracy and replaced it with true imperialist + a tsp of facist many years ago. i heard many people (who brand themselves to be TRUE Americans) say we, Americans don't need to care about what the world thinks of us, they don't know! they do know and maybe know much more in some aspects than us. national security? what is national secuirty when foreign investors is buying our banks which translates into cutting our paychecks? it's not just about bombs and more bombs...
in this election, i think it's important to evaluate which presidential candidate can offer the best cabinet members by observing how each runs their campaign and who are the people the surround & advise him. :) smile, no need to attack.

Posted by: abc2008 | October 16, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I find it hilarious that so many people who parrot Senator Obama's ideas as 'socialism' clearly have NO idea what real socialism is. Maybe some bigoted conservative old farts still blathering about the "Red Scare" give a crap (This just in: it's 2008, not 1955!) but I'd rather see a 'socialist' in the White House than a McSame that will continue policies that rape the working poor. (And yes, neocons, that's WORKING poor - enough of this 40% non-tax-payer = 'welfare cheat' crap.)

I used to respect McCain, a -lot- (and I'm one of those blasted lefty liberals)...in fact, I'd have loved to see him win the nomination against Bush in 2000, and I might have voted for him against Gore, too. But whatever integrity the man had then has been lost. What happened to the guy who actually worked across party lines? What happened to the guy that actually cared about certain issues enough to fight AGAINST his own party?

Obama has shown himself to be wise, intelligent, knowledgable and actually -cares- about our country, and wants to HELP. McCain just wants to help himself and his buddies, same ol' same ol'. I hope he reigns it in enough in these last weeks to get back a shred of that dignity he once had; but somehow, I doubt it.

Posted by: sykadelic_chic | October 17, 2008 5:28 AM | Report abuse

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