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The McCain Campaign Works the Refs

The McCain campaign, aided by right-wing commentators, is playing up the fact that vice presidential debate moderator Gwen Ifill has been writing a book about new black political leaders, which features, among such up and coming politicians of color, Barack Obama.

The Republicans claim that Ifill's book a sign that she is slanted towards the Democratic side. And the attack is likely designed to make Ifill bend overbackwards tonight to prove she isn't out to get Sarah Palin. If Ifill gives in to the pressure, advantage Palin.

It's called "working the referees," a tactic used by a coach on the sidelines to guilt trip referees into making favorable calls for his team.

Republicans have been doing this to a fare-the-well this campaign season. Witness the McCain campaign's continued attacks on the New York Times and the campaign's complaints that the media is in the tank for Obama. The aim is to browbeat reporters into showing greater deference to the Republican candidates.

Tonight, GOP partisans will be watching Ifill as closely as they listen to Joe Biden and Sarah Palin.

"Workin' the refs" usually doesn't work in professional sports. It shouldn't work with media pros either.

By Colbert King  | October 2, 2008; 3:16 PM ET
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But this ref has placed a bet on the game.

Posted by: davidadrian | October 2, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse


its funny how the Post article that King's links a) mentions Ifil's upcoming book "Age of Obama" as an afterthought, in the second to last paragraph, and b) does not mention that the book comes out on inaguration day.

this isnt rocket science: a book with "Age of Obama" in the title will seem more relevant (and, hence, sell more) come inaguration day if Obama is the one assuming the office of the presidency. I've witnessed only one attempt by a liberal to deny this--and it was laughable.


its so dishonest for the Post article to focus on Ifil's race as the cause of the conflict of interest controversy. the only issue anyone has is her pecuniary interest in an obama victory. but if we ARE looking for a black replacementsomeone like derrick mcginity, from WUSA would be a wonderful replacement.

Posted by: dummypants | October 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Excellent point!

The same way that Obama used the RACE CARD in both the Primaries and then again in the General. It worked against Clinton, but McCain saw through the little puke and called him on it!

Posted by: edgeco1 | October 2, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I agree that Ms. Ifill's book is possibly politically unbiased, although Obama's name is in the title. But I disagree with your statement that the McCain campaign is playing this up. Your source for this statment clearly cites McCain's assumption that Ms. Ifill will be objective. While conservative commentators are expressing concern, the McCain campaign, as always, remains professionally complacent.

Posted by: Doph | October 2, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

"But this ref has placed a bet on the game."

Really? because you have read the book that hasn't been released yet?

What are you going to say when she releases the book and it is not about Obama? Oh, wait, you will already have been crying fo months about how palin sucks at debates, i mean how she ruined it for palin

Posted by: Independent4tw | October 2, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Moderators are impartial or they look bad and lose their jobs. I doubt she is that stupid, so i doubt she will be partial.

Posted by: Independent4tw | October 2, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

But this ref has placed a bet on the game.


How amusing this issue was never brought up until this week. How amusing it was never an issue with the McCain people and is NOT a concern even this week per Mccain's on statements about yet one more bogus argument. McCain signed off on Ifill weeks ago.

I suspect if your right wing, are concerned about Palin's credentials and abilities, AND are sleazy, then yes let's make a tactical pre-emptive strike in order to tilt things into their favor.

McCain has run a shaky campaign. Yes he is a maverick but that trait is too unconventional and is reflected in his campaign. It has led him to several bad decisions. Bad in the sense they are costing him voter support.

The fact that it appeals to the right wing Kool-aid drinkers appears as a positive to those who are True Believers.

But ultimately the maverick trait will be his Achilles Heel. The majority of voters when it comes down to it are going to select someone who they feel they can trust. And mavericks are too unconventional, too untrustworthy to be the president.

Notice I said the majority.

Posted by: patrick10 | October 2, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I've admired Gwen Ifill for years and always found her objective and fair and very, very smart. She is more than capable of dealing with the cynical Republican "refs" who seem to fall all over themselves in a mad scramble to "protect" Sarah Palin. They look silly and cowardly in all their tactics -- including their goofy lowering-the-bar tactic. Gwen Ifill will be equally tough on both candidates, and why not? She's a confident, wise, well-prepared woman. Why shouldn't Sarah Palin be held to those same excellent standards?

My concern is that journalists who do the "post-debate" chat will say Sarah wins if she manages to finish three sentences grammatically. I hope NO ONE gives her any benefit of the doubt. Let's demand excellence and competence and complexity! No one is giving Obama any benefit of the doubt, nor Joe Biden. But the "refs" have bought into this absurd "lowering the bar" drivel. I'd think the Rebublicans would be ashamed, but as we saw in two elections, they have no shame.

Go Gwen! I wish you were the candidate!

Posted by: cturtle1 | October 2, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Ifill is neither a ref nor a judge. She has proven herself as a moderator and was accepted several weeks ago by both campaigns. Just how is she supposed to get away with any bias? There is nothing that is going to happen tonight that is secret. If the right wingers think Palin needs to be handled with kid gloves (like Hannity did) then they need to admit she is not close to being qualified. Country first? And he picks her?

Posted by: phil55 | October 2, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama is White! can someone explain to me how someone who is half White is always referred to as Black? And since when is white not a color? people of color. I want a white car cause white is not a color. hello...
anyway the point of this debate is whether we want this person who happens to be female to be within a few cancer cells of president. check out this on education:

“I personally believe that, U.S. Americans are unable to do so, because some… people out there in our nation that don’t have maps, and I believe that our education, like such, as in South Africa and Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should… our education over here in the U.S., should help the U.S., er, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future.., for our...”

sowat if she is a pit bull tonight or a moose in barracuda guise...who cares? she is not presidential material...nor is John for that matter...

Posted by: rayreyns | October 2, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Gwenn Ifill is one of the fairest moderators there is. She always bends over backwards to be fair. She gets my vote of confidence.

Posted by: Jeff-for-progress | October 2, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

In "The Fix" yesterday, I learned that Ifill's book _Breakthrough_ profiles four up-and-coming black politicians, not just one. Ifill said she "started the book when it looked unlikely that Obama would win the Democratic nomination."

But more to the point here: I don't imagine that Gwen Ifill is the type to cave to anyone. She won't be worked.

Posted by: Aunt-Lefty-the-Nimble | October 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Would Tom Brokaw be allowed to moderate a debate involving anyone from WWII? After all, he wrote a pro-WWII book? This is crazy. The timing of their complaint smells. Invoking a Blacks against Us narrative is disgusting. It's further evidence of how 'uncivil' discourse has taken over the McCain campaign.

The short answer debate format reduces the involvement of the moderator to something little more than a time keeper. Distraction, Distraction. Distortion and Distraction is the standard Rovian modus operandi.

Bush/McCain. Mo More Years!!

Posted by: thebobbob | October 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Doph, we can consider your position when the McCain campaign apologizes for accusing the Obama campaign of personal and family attacks on Palin, which Obama scrupulously avoided. In fact, it's much easier to imagine that McCain is in cahoots with leading rightist media lights who are carrying his dirty water than to think Obama had anything to do with disgusting bloggers like those at the Daily Kos. Obama said Palin's family is off-limits and he would fire anyone in his campaign who acted otherwise and then never mentioned the subject again. That's how you do it if you really mean it. By contrast, McCain keeps bringing up the topic of Ifill, thereby nodding and winking to all his backers who keep making the points he wants made, even while keeping his own hands clean. That's not how you do it if you really mean it, which I notice has not been lost on commenters with a less rational bent than yours.

But that's okay. McCain is providing so much evidence of his lack of integrity that people can hardly miss it. The more the merrier, really.

Posted by: NomoStew | October 2, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow... You obviously see a conflict of interest in the moderator, and hope to cover this up for as many readers as you can dishonestly connect with. Otherwise, you would not have downplayed the roll Obama plays in her book. He is in the name of the book! It claims it is HIS time! It is being released on inauguration day! You are either a fool or a liar. Either way, you should be fired and turn in any journalistic credentials you so clearly should not posses.

Posted by: davidG2 | October 2, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

People don't seem to understand that all of the debates were agreed to by both parties, including who would moderate.

There was a time and place to discuss these things, and bringing it up at the last minute is simply dishonest and dishonorable.

The McCain camp is clearly trying to game the system. They have nothing to lose as all of the trendlines are working against them, but it's still disappointing.

Posted by: kelmerp | October 2, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

"..book about new black political leaders, which features, among such up and coming politicians of color, Barack Obama" .. Coincidentally the book is named, "..The Age of Barack Obama." Was Obamagirl not available to moderate?

Posted by: fraccle | October 2, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

So, we're to believe that the McCain camp, the rabid right wing extremists on AM talk radio or any of the crack journalists with Fox News didn't so much as Google Gwen's name until the day before the debate? Hmmm, if you believe that then I've got a Bridge to Nowhere to sell ya!

Posted by: stuartson | October 2, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Rayreyns, you are aware that what you quoted is not a quote from Sarah Palin, aren't you?

(“I personally believe that, U.S. Americans are unable to do so, because some… people out there in our nation that don’t have maps, and I believe that our education, like such, as in South Africa and Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should… ")

Posted by: Aunt-Lefty-the-Nimble | October 2, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

rayreyns wrote, "Obama is White! can someone explain to me how someone who is half White is always referred to as Black? And since when is white not a color? people of color. I want a white car cause white is not a color. hello..."
---

Technically, Black isn't a color and White is all colors.

Posted by: iiell | October 2, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Anyone here crying about this is retarded. She's basicly going to ask them the same questions and that's about it... why the hell would a respectable woman like herself do anything to ruin her rep? To sell a book? I know it's hard for some of you to believe, but money isn't EVERYTHING to some people.

Posted by: iiell | October 2, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Anyone here crying about this is retarded. She's basicly going to ask them the same questions and that's about it... why the hell would a respectable woman like herself do anything to ruin her rep? To sell a book? I know it's hard for some of you to believe, but money isn't EVERYTHING to some people.

Posted by: iiell | October 2, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Gwenn Ifill is one of the fairest moderators there is. McCain's people ought to be concerned that targeting Gwenn Ifill could backfire on them and will instead push people in Obama’s favor. Why does Republican have to play so dirty?????

Posted by: norcomspe | October 2, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Some of our friends on the right are getting their pantyhoses out of order, because god forbid, a black woman, who is publishing a book about blacks, has the audacity to moderate a 'debate' with their white candidate. They should give it a rest, or perhaps they should tune in for relaxation with their favorite white talk show host (Rush, Ann, Bill O etc.) while the debate is on.

Posted by: mich123 | October 2, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

I am inclined to agree that Ifill will be fair, but this isn't just a trumped-up issue. It should be of some concern when the Columbia Journalism Review has an issue with it.

http://www.cjr.org/the_kicker/drudge_raises_a_point.php

Posted by: mez_ | October 2, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Gwen Ifil is the consummate professional which is why I always make a point of watching the Newshour....you NEVER know how any of them feel about any specific topic. Gwen is about as fair and unbiased as they come. Good for her.

Posted by: susanr1 | October 2, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

If McCain wants to bet his reputation as a straight-talker against Gwen Ifill's, I bet he will lose.

Posted by: martymar123 | October 2, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the GOP is doing it.

But my God, Obama's campaign has written the book on the matter. He inoculated, insulated himself from criticism during most of the primary campaign and coasted to nomination.

Joe Biden's campaign a few years ago was derailed because he used parts of Neil Kinnock's speech in his campaign.

Compare how innocuous that is, compared to Obama's pastor problem.

But no, nobody dare to criticize him on that. If you open your mouth, you are branded a racist.

Now, he's reaping the advantage of the economic debacle that fell into his lap. The man's a lucky dude. He will barely squeeze through in this "Mother of All Democratic Years". And of course his supporters will blame racism for such a lukewarm showing.

Some are born lucky, some make their own luck. And some, such as Obama have luck thrust on him.

And al the while, Michelle thinks the country is mean.

Amazing!!!

Posted by: pKrishna43 | October 2, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Dear Morons (this includes Mr. King),

The McCain Campaign did not complain about the moderator. McCain said he believes she is professional and would never try to do anything that would be unfair. You Bozo's shouldn't be allowed to vote for shear stupidity!

Posted by: davidG2 | October 2, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

That should be fare-thee-well. You're welcome. And I don't even get paid by a newspaper to write.

Posted by: hitpoints | October 2, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

The other advantage of working the ref is to innoculate thier partisans against the opinions of the rest of America. If everyone who doesn't want McCain to be president is a member of a secretive left wing conspiracy, then you can automaticaly discount anything negative said about McCain, it's just the shills from the left wing conspiracy talking.
If you read these posts, one of the things that really jumps out at you is how irrational many of th e poster are. Among conservatives, this is a hallmark of the "tin foil hat" set.

Posted by: dijetlo | October 2, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Gwen Ifill is one of the best moderators out there and in the past has even moderated debates sponsored by FOX news.

So now we find out she wrote a book about politics that actually says some nice things about Barack Obama. Oh the horror!

No matter what the Rush Limbaugh crowed says Gwen is one of the few journalists in this country who can run a debate in a fair and impartial way. The nay sayers are just trying to run interference for what could prove to be a difficult night for Republicans.

Posted by: MarcMyWords | October 2, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

It's pretty amusing that McCain's strategists continue to work the margins even while the center of his campaign is collapsing. If you think Gwen Ifill's questions tonight will make a difference in the election results, raise your hand.

Posted by: SteveIowa | October 2, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

votewithyourshirt wants to get some more information on this. Does Ms. Ifill's book include such recent black leaders as J.C. Watts, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, and Kenneth Blackwell? If so, then we see nothing wrong with this pick. Every commentator or reporter has an opinion and a preference for president. Of course, we'll have to see the debate to determine if she is fair to both sides - and by fair we mean equally hard, not easily soft.

Posted by: votewithyourshirt | October 2, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

"Dear Morons (this includes Mr. King),

The McCain Campaign did not complain about the moderator. McCain said he believes she is professional and would never try to do anything that would be unfair. You Bozo's shouldn't be allowed to vote for shear stupidity!"

McCain, today: "Frankly, I wish they had picked a moderator that isn't writing a book favorable to Barack Obama," McCain said of Ifill, who is examining the rise of the Illinois Democrat and other post-civil rights black leaders. "Let's face it. But I have to have to have confidence that Gwen Ifill will handle this as the professional journalist that she is."

"Life isn't fair, as I mentioned earlier in the program."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/Asked_about_Obama_poll_surge_McCain_takes_JFK_approach.html

Posted by: McBain1 | October 2, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I am going to post again what I posted on another of the blogs in this site because it applies.

I find it amusing that conservative commetators are crying bloody murder because Ms. Ifill wrote a book profiling Obama and other 21st-century African-American politicians. May I remind you that the Commission on Presidential debates is composed of representatives of BOTH THE DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN PARTIES? The commission's presidents are a former RNC and a former DNC chairman. Therefore, to those like Greta van Susteren who claim conflict of interests, I submit to you another legal term, "voir dire".

Voir dire is the process where a juror's qualifications to serve are examined before a trial starts. To quote Gordon P. Cleary in his book Trial Evidence Foundations (James Publishing, 2007 at section 201), "Voir Dire is the process by which attorneys select, or perhaps more appropriately reject, certain jurors to hear a case."

When Ms. Ifill's name was submitted for consideration as moderator for the Vice Presidential debate, if the Republican Party representatives on the Commission on Presidential Debate (who should be more politically aware than most) thought she was biased, then they had the duty to object at that moment. Now it is too late to cry foul, when the people supposed to protect the interests of the Republican Vice Presidential candidate already said she was qualified as a moderator.

I mean, Ifill already had a track record doing the same job during the 2004 election campaign. She even cut short Vice President Cheney during one of his responses during the Cheney-Edwards debate, and the Republican representatives to the Debate Commission did not say a peep, then the conservative commentariat should stop their mock outrage and accept the verdict of the members of their own party who vetted this moderator.

Now people let's sit back watch both of them face to face, and may the best man-- or woman-- win!

Posted by: Kruhn1 | October 2, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Desperate accusations for the desperate times of desperate characters. Gwen will prove to be one of the most level headed, fair and balancing of all the moderators for any of the debates.
McCain/Palin is toast and their own campaign knows it...

Posted by: buzzsaw1 | October 2, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I, as an Obama supporter, do not think she should be allowed to moderate this debate because of her book. If it was reversed and the moderator had book with a McCain chapter coming out I know I would not like it.

However, with all of the scrutiny and heat now I am sure she knows she will be under a microscope and will be professional.

If anything this works in Palin's favor because even if the moderator does nothing biased at the debate the notion that Palin is beginning at a disadvantage is one that will help her with the public.

McCain's campaign just wants to draw attention to it. They don't Really want another moderator.

Posted by: jmedia421 | October 2, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Ding Ding Ding

Thank you for again pointing out that the bootstrap gang is nothing more than a group of sniveling little brats who can't give straight answers so they complain about everything else around them. This routine has gotten so old.......

Posted by: theobserver4 | October 2, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

"Dear Morons (this includes Mr. King),

The McCain Campaign did not complain about the moderator. McCain said he believes she is professional and would never try to do anything that would be unfair. You Bozo's shouldn't be allowed to vote for shear stupidity!


Posted by: davidG2 | October 2, 2008 5:09 PM "

Hey knucklehead, McCain went on Fox News today and complained that Ifill was biased against Palin. Go use the Google to look it up on the internets. And don't come back here until you know what you're talking about.

The McCain campaign has been consistently on the defensive for weeks now. Every time they complain about the refs, or the media, or Obama, or Wall St., or anyone else, they look weaker and weaker. And less presidential. Remind me again why anyone thinks this guy would make a good leader for this country??

Posted by: simpleton1 | October 2, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Are conservatives anxious Gwen Ifill is such a biased, evil genius that she will ask something embarassing of the good Governor about, say, foreign policy, domestic policies, Supreme Court decisions. Yes, we should lower our expectations because she's a woman, shouldn't we? It was a "gotcha" question, when asked about Supreme Court decisions by Katie Couric, that she could not cite even the recent Exxon decision that directly affected her state.

Posted by: mischanova | October 2, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like you have a great moderator there! Surely this debate is about finding out the strengths and weaknesses of the candidates. Presumably you wish your president to be Strong, Intelligent, Well read, a skillful diplomat, with a keen sense of history. It would also be helpful if his deputy had a fair share of these attributes too. From what I have read the lady in question seems strong, but not too well read. Diplomacy doesn't appear to be part of her makeup, and her education level, leaves something to be desired. Since I have never heard her comment on matters of history it's hard to say how her knowledge is on the subject. Would it be so hard to find a better candidate?

Posted by: valart9 | October 2, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Palin should be able to hold her own without the ref being worked over. She's been through 24 debates which makes the whole notion that people should to easy on her (e.g. shortening the format of the debate, Ifill being "deferent") complete ridiculous. If she's able to answer the questions coherently and substantively, there's no way that the debate could be slanted against her. The more I read and see from Republicans, the more I understand why George Bush was able to wreck this country in a scant eight years. You refuse to see the reality of a situtaion, constantly falling back on some blind dogma to make your decisions. I think the last true sensible Republican leader was George H. W. Bush. He actually behaved appropriately to match his situation.

Posted by: ehperkins1971 | October 2, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Colbert King: you are spot-on. Let's soften-up the ref. Why not just send out a team to just break her ankle? Oh, right, they already did that.

Posted by: bigdaddyLA | October 2, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama played dirty in politics SINCE HE first won in his home state. Obama will cry racist at the drop of a hat. In typical lawyer fashion he cares not for justice, truth, country, honor, duty.. he only wants to win… and be in power. He can not make a decision, he is like a puppet that has his strings pulled by his cronies on the hill and his rich supporters.

Big issue that can be tied directly to Obama and the democrats. Take a look at the revised TARP Bill that came out and was signed yesterday. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE IF OBAMA IS MADE PRESIDENT.

The House bill was changed and added to behind closed doors. It contains items that the Democrats COULD NOT GET through the Senate. and then they tacked on to this SAVINGS BILL???

Note the following BOND ISSUES that will actually take money out of THAT CREDIT cycle they are crying about.

Renewable Energy Bond Limitation of only 800,000,000.

Increases to Funding Black Lung Disability Trust.

National Xone Academy Bond Limitation only 400,000,000 for schools at poverty levels.

Coal project investment Tax Credit
2,555,000,000

They approved increasing the National Debt limit to 11.300,000,000.

Issued tax credit extensions for the following areas. (This is a joke.. because they hid this so well and ther are bunches more.)

Midwest Store Damage Credit
Secrue Rural Schools Tax Credit
Mental Health and Substance Abuse Credit
Child Tax Credit
Domestic Production Activies Puerto Rico
Expense advance Mine Safety Equipment
Mine Resuce Team Training
Economic Development for American Samoa
Rum Exicsit Tax for Puerton Rico and Virgin Islands.
S Corpations making charitable contributions of property.
Cost recovery for Improvements , restaurant improvement and certain retail improvements tax credit.
Expense and modification of research tax credit.
Oil spill liability fund
Futa Surtax
Green building and sustainable design products
Fringe benefits to bicyle commuters.

These SOB's in the Senate with the Democrats making these additions behind closed doors deserve to be impeached,voted out and shot at dawn.

The initial House Bill was only 109 pages..AFTER the Senate... got done it was 451 pages. The first 109 pages were almost the same as the house bill. When Dodd, Reid and the rest of their cronies got done with the bill, we are in hock for even more money.

If I remember correctly... not an accountant, the Treasury will issue bonds that will pay a certain interest. These will be placed on the open market for investors to purchase.

This means that 1,200,000,000 dollars of money that COULD BE USED FOR main street
credit will be sucked up with by the US Government. Add another 2 Trillion to that in the increase in National Debt.

And they have just 'sucked' 3.2 Trillion dollars out of the credit market.

ISSUE A 2,550,000,000 TAX CREDIT TO COAL PROJECT INVESTMENTS.

And you have a cluster if there ever was one.

The 75 Senators that voted for this Bill, in all likely hood DID NOT EVEN READ this Bill.

They just VOTED.

Now the Mainstream Media will HIDE this as well... because this is a DEMOCRAT sponsored bill.

You can not have a democrat on the hill as PRESIDENT.. that has no original thought, no experience, that listens to DODD,REID, FRANKS,PELOSI, And other democrats on the hill. Obama so far is just a puppet ...his strings are pulled by the DNC, and the ole guard on the hill.

He is now talking about going through next year’s financial budget, line item by line item. But what he is not saying is that next years financial budget was worked on and completed by Obey at the end of September. It was planned in such a manner that NO ONE had a chance to review… because it was only presented to allow 24 hours for review and then it had to be approved. (Obey was very proud that THE PUBLIC and the members of Congress DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE T REVIEW.)

Obama has promised CHANGE IN WASHINGTON.. yet here is the MOST IMPORTANT BILL supposedly since the last Depression and it is loaded with PORK that has been unable to be passed.

IT was created by Dodd, Reid, and other democrats on the hill BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

I am Obama and I approve this post.

Posted by: miller51550 | October 2, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

They have video of biden and Palin practicing for the debate at http://www.watchdebate.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 2, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Crybabies.

Worried about hard questions like, "could you name one example of a newspaper you read recently?"

I'm sure Sean Hannity and his Fox News Ministry of Disinformation would be more to the McCain camp's liking.

Posted by: SarahBB | October 2, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

The intent of Ifill to write a book with part of the title" Age of Obama" refers more to the rapid falling of political stereotypes, and the rapid rise to prominence of a gifted bi-racial politican (along with a cohort of other black politicians) than it has to do with future sales of that work. The first announcement came in July of this year, before Palin was even being considered for the ticket. The publisher put the book on its press release in Septmeber. The right wing is just off the rails--anyone who has watched Ifill work has no questions about her integrity or evenhanded journalism.
Lacking any faith that Palin can actually anwswer the challenge of mastering anything but a blizaard of talking points, they want the country to actually swallow the idea that this is anyone's fault but their own, or that it flies in the face of McCain's petulant refrain that he "always puts country first". Or that we should believe she really is the best VP candidate they could find. Or maybe she's not one of the country's leading experts on energy (a frequent McCain claim). Or that she must lose or be submarined by the bad nasty biased black moderator. Or that it's someone else's sexist attitudes.
Sometimes you just have to shake your head and marvel at the ferocity with which they seek to retain power, and to try to prove black is white and gray is red. Sad really.....

Posted by: bklyndan22 | October 2, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

This inner city negro columnist-is he a quota hire?


Posted by: res08hao | October 2, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Excellent point!

The same way that Obama used the RACE CARD in both the Primaries and then again in the General. It worked against Clinton, but McCain saw through the little puke and called him on it!
___
Hopefully Biden sees through the little puke named Palin and doesn't fall for McCain/Palin's claims of sexism, and debates her like he'd debate a man. These two have pulled the SEX card plenty of times.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 2, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

res08hao,

Here's what we'd all like you to do.

Slam your head on the keyboard in front of you. Repeat. Don't stop until everybody in America is white.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 2, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Neo-nazi facism runs rampant in Amerika. Try that headline.

Gwen is one of the finest journalist in America, perhaps as good as her boss, Jim Lehrer.

What angers these nazi facist is the fact than anyone can read or write, regardless of color.

They thrive on ignorance and are weakened by intelligent citizens. That is what erodes the Evangelical Party (evil angel party, the anti-christ party) aka Republican Party. They hate intelligence. It is their number one enemy.

Posted by: basementfrog | October 2, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

This is the most pathetic excuse I have seen. Ifill herself is to blame for any controversy. She admits to not having told anyone about the book and she accepted this position knowing her own bias.

If anyone thinks that she will not be biased against Governor Palin, you couldn't even believe yourself. It will be there underlying this whole debate.

Ifill didn't put all the effort into writing a book that will be released on inauguration day to have it be a NON seller. The book title is about "the age of Obama". Who will buy it if he is an "also ran"?

Liberals who find no question of integrity compromise in this by a fellow liberal would be raging if the shoe were on the other foot.

Regardless of what she wishes she can not be fair and her snide comments at the GOP convention attest to that.

Posted by: Von123 | October 2, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Neo-nazi facism runs rampant in Amerika. Try that headline.

Gwen is one of the finest journalist in America, perhaps as good as her boss, Jim Lehrer.

What angers these nazi facist is the fact than anyone can read or write, regardless of color.

They thrive on ignorance and are weakened by intelligent citizens. That is what erodes the Evangelical Party (evil angel party, the anti-christ party) aka Republican Party. They hate intelligence. It is their number one enemy.

Posted by: basementfrog | October 2, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

TEE HEE, HEE...

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=palin+and+witch+hunting&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#

Posted by: basementfrog | October 2, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

New Obama slogan:

Obama/Biden:

Elevating Mediocrity

Posted by: JASB4 | October 2, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

miller51550: You, like many Republicans, appear panicked and terrified. Calm down and take a deep breath. You needn't be so scared, unless Sarah Palin ends up being president. Then you can be scared because you'll have four more years of Democrats having a great time mocking! I don't know why you conservatives think it's great to have incompetent people in office. She would have to govern, you know. It's not a football game. Or a hockey game.

Posted by: cturtle1 | October 2, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

This last minute attempt to discredit Gwen Ifill the moderator of tonight’s debate is a pathetic attempt to justify Gov. Palin’s performance in what will probably be a nationally televised preview of the next four weeks of Saturday night live comedy skits.

Posted by: RobertG | October 2, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Pathetic right-wingers. Anything to get an edge. Lies, half-truths, innuendos. It's all fair to Rove and company.

Posted by: taid | October 2, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

I love seeing people like miller51550 get all hot and bothered about the bill just passed. Your MAN McCain voted for the bill !!! Duh.

Posted by: taid | October 2, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

In the shadow of the blatant and stunning sexism launched against the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign by Barack Hussein Obama and the liberal media, democratic Hillary supporters were thrilled to hear John McCain announce Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, because, she offers Americans a chance to vote for someone who is her own woman, and who represents a party that, while we don't agree on all the issues, at least respects women enough to take them seriously.

Having a woman in the White House, and not as The Spouse, is a change whose time has come, despite the fact that the media and Democratic Party leaders have decided otherwise. But with the Sarah Palin’s nomination, Clinton voters, in particular, have received a political wake-up call they never expected. Having watched their candidate and their principles betrayed by the very people who are supposed to be the flame-holders for equal rights and fairness, they now looking across the aisle and see a woman who represents everything the feminist movement claimed it stood for. Women can have a family and a career.

The democratic party’s bullying of the Clinton candidacy during the primary season was the first revelation of how misogynistic and sexist the democratic party has become. The democratic party has moved from taking the female vote for granted to outright contempt for women. That's why Sarah Palin represents the most serious conservative threat ever to the modern democratic liberal claim on issues of male cultural and social superiority.
The time is now for a woman to be in the White House as an equal partner in governance.

The time is now for John McCain/Sarah Palin.

Country First! McCain/Palin

Posted by: Manolete | October 2, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Shut up with your sexism lies. She ran the same mud slinging campaign as John McCain and got what she deserved.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 2, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Gwen Ifill vis-a-vis the Republicans, in the final analysis, silence is the best revenge.

Posted by: symancshorecom | October 3, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

I just had to come back to this. At first I thought Ifill had done a terrible job because she didn't force Palin to answer the questions.

But I changed my mind on that. This morning the whole world knows that, in a post-Cheney world, Sarah Palin would like to expand the power of the vice presidency. We have Ms.Ifill to thank for that gem.

Posted by: martymar123 | October 3, 2008 7:06 AM | Report abuse

I think that McCain is running so scared that he has to lower himself to such despictable behavior. This is predictable and expected of the republican's "it's my way or no way!"
Biden definately outperformed Palin and is a seasoned candidate who is a watchdog for the middle class. Palin is living in a fantasy world, the world of a beaty pageant. As a disabled american, I was appalled at the way she once again thre that poor downe syndrome baby around in order to garner votes. This is extremely offensive and I was worried about that baby's safety. At the end of the debate, the young Palin daughter was holding that baby and appeared to almost drop him. How could a good mother allow that? It was apparent that she was not concerned about that baby other than to exploit him. Sarah Palin's only concern is her presence, fame and self indulged glory. I felt her performance to be extremely offensive as it was phony and definately rehearsed.

Ifill was absolutely more than fair and unbiased. Again, John McCain is NOT the person who should be leading this country. It must be someone new with a fresh perspective and realistic outlook at the US economy and well-being.

Posted by: LKM2 | October 3, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

So, Colburt, you think it is of no consequence that she is writing a book about black political leaders with a title to the effect of being "in the age of Obama" which is scheduled to be released on inauguration day in 2009? Do you not see that this could lead to the perception of bias? Certainly she stands to have a monetary interest at stake in who wins. I would think her book sales would not be as high should McCain win. I really wish you wouldn't have to show your bias so readily by dismissing anyone criticizing Ms. Ifill as being "right wing". How about just being "right." Oh, by the way, did you hear her congratulate Senator Biden after the debate by saying he did a "great job".

Posted by: dojemc | October 3, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

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