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Al-Qaeda Doesn't Get It

Ayman al-Zawahiri, the putative no. 2 figure in al-Qaeda, shared his thoughts last week on the election of Barack Obama as the 44th president of the United States. Zawahiri's comments revealed more about his own failings than Obama's. Probably because the president-elect wants to, among other things, beef up U.S. forces in Afghanistan, and because Obama regards Israel as an ally that America would never abandon, Zawahiri decided to tell the world that America's first black president is subservient to whites and is a "house slave."

It has been said that sometimes 'tis best to be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Zawahiri either has never been afforded the benefit of that wise saying or he elected to ignore it. His slurring of Obama has drawn widespread denunciation, including from one group he may have foolishly expected to applaud -- American Muslims.

This is not to say that Zawahiri has no standing to bring up the subject of slavery. After all, it was his forebearers who started the slave trade in Sub-Saharan Africa, capturing men and women of a much darker hue and spiriting them off to lands of people with much lighter hues. The Arab slave trade managed to pull off this theft of black people several centuries before Europeans discovered that there were goodies to be had stealing and selling human beings who didn't look like them. So yes, for Zawahiri -- a Muslim, an Egyptian and a student of Islamic history -- the enslavement of blacks is as much a part of his heritage as the erection of the Great Pyramids. He owns the subject.

Where the man demonstrates that he is completely out of his depths is when he turns his attention to the country of Obama's birth. Zawahiri denounces Obama as being under the thumb of whites -- a man who "pray the prayers of the Jews" -- and holds up, in contrast and for high honors, Malcolm X, the American-Muslim leader who was assassinated by other black Muslims in 1965. Zawahiri's fondness is for an America of yesteryear, a time of deep racial and religious divisions. He views this country as unchanged since slavery. In his blind hatred of the West, Zawahiri missed the transforming event of 2008. On Election Day, more than 66 million Americans of every color, religion, age group, gender and region of the country freely, and with knowledge aforethought, decided to make Zawahiri's "house slave" Obama, master of the White House and commander in chief of the most powerful military arsenal on the face of the earth. If anyone is a captive, it is Ayman al-Zawahiri, and of his own ignorance.

By Colbert King  | November 24, 2008; 5:03 PM ET
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Mr King, you are wrong.

Al Qaeda does 'get it'. This organisation thrives because the USA disrupts the Middle East (Iraq and The Palestinian) by seeking to impose its will on its residents.

It is only since Bush invaded Iraq that Al Qaeda has flourished. Ordinary people who are outraged by American domination and imperialism want the USA out of the Middle East.

If Obama negotiates Peace Treaties then those ordinary folk who have flocked to Al Qaeda will abandon Al Qaeda and get on with their lives.

Al Qaeda did not want Obama to win. They want an ongoing war so that they have a raison d'etre to continue operating and are able to attract new recruits.

They fear Obama and the sense of hope of peace and stability that he offers many ordinary people in the Middle east. If he can bring about peace then they will love America. Nobody, except war mongers, want war.

Posted by: robertjames1 | November 24, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

You're right, but doesn't it impress you that this guy, living in a cave, understands enough about our culture and history to draw the distinction between the "field negro" and the "house negro"? Shouldn't we understand as much about Zawahiri's culture and history if we are to "swiftboat" Al Qaeda?

Posted by: terry4 | November 24, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

robertjames1 nails it. Ayman al-Zawahiri's rant is of little to zero consequence, despite the fact that it offended Mr. King's (and mine for that matter) sense of political correctness. Big deal.

Al-Qaeda has succeeded beyond its wildest expectations. It has drawn America into two wasting wars, wars essentially against the people we invaded. Wars with no possible victory, wars that have blackened our name throughout the whole world. Wars that drag on as malignant cancers, draining our lives and treasure.

Al-Qaeda is clearly the strategic victor. Concurrent with the massive Republican malfeasance over some thirty years in deregulating our complex derivative markets, we will suffer from our hubris and self-delusions. America as we thought of it is finished. Think I am wrong?

Wait and see.

Posted by: tarquinis | November 24, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Mr. King, I have to disagree with you. The US' aspirations to control the mideast through Israeli hegemony in the region is the reason why the area is in such turmoil. Zawahiri is all too perceptive of whom Obama is politically beholden to-one need look no further than his own chief of staff-Rahm Emanuel, who is the son of an Israeli Irgun terrorist.Others in Obama's fledgling cabinet are also of Jewish descent-such as his Treasury Secretary, Tim Geitner. Zawahiri's perceptions are also further validated by Obama's choice of Secretary of State in Hillary Clinton, an individual who has already threatened to destroy Iran on Israel's behalf in the event of war. Obama has merely shown that he has his own cabal of neocons similar to his mass murdering predecessor, the names have merely changed, while their foreign policy ruled by AIPAC and its minions remains the same.

Posted by: SMMajid_1 | November 24, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

One of the very few positive aspects of the whole increasingly bogus "war on terrorism" is that Al-Qaeda is as ignorant of US politics and realities as the Bush League is of them. They could have influenced the 2004 elections in much the same way Iran used the hostages to help get Reagan elected in 1980, by simply doing a Tet Offensive and showing (truthfully or not) the American public how ineffective US forces were in Iraq. And they've squandered their support in Iraq by targeting everyone, not just the US and its allies.

Posted by: slothropgr | November 24, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Yes they don't get it,
but after 8 years of incompetent arrogance around the world
the u.s. is about to nominate as secretary of state a woman that spent months screaming "We are the Best Country in the World !"

that will not fix a thing
seriously

Posted by: giab | November 24, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

I think Bush, Cheney and company played right into Al Qaida's hands with their Iraq invasion and occupation. The only thing that's prevented us from having to pay an even more terrible price is Al Qaida's own incompetence.

As intelligent as some of these scumbags are purported to be, they seem unable to exploit our internal divisions effectively.

When people get angry, they become easy marks. They say and do things that are normally out of bounds.

We as a people have started to behave so hatefully towards each other over politics, that even these guys will see the open window of opportunity.

If we were to have another situation like Florida in 2000, we leave ourselves open to being manipulated into turning on ourselves. Without going into details, I can see how this could be engineered.

Posted by: fredfawcett | November 24, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

I think the solution to Al-Qaeda is simply to shoot them and their Taliban supporters. As well as anyone else who wants to support them. They need to all die, all their leaders, and anyone who would raise new leaders for their movement in place of them.

Eventually, they will run out of people. There are more of us than of them, and they're bat-crap crazy.

Posted by: timscanlon | November 24, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

al qaeda wasn't out to tarnish our reputation or drag us into a war some may consider foolish. Like all radical muslim groups, they sought notoriety and gained a considerable amount after 9/11. Since then their miscalculation has been forcefully exposed by General Patreus with the brave men and women fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Whatever you rabid anti-rightist bloggers may think, this is why our shores have been safe for the better part of a decade.

I'm sick of people constantly trying to rationalize the islamic fundamentalist mind as somehow confused but ultimately sane. The arab world has something like a 60% illiteracy rating, contributes 18 year olds as suicide bombers, and condones countless other despicable practices. King's just as bad as the rest of you in his column. Al qaeda doesn't get it. Really? All that has transpired since 2001 hasn't been enough to convince him that al qaeda's crazy, but calling obama a slave tips him over the edge.
We're not dealing with rational people here!

Posted by: batigol85 | November 25, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Someone should remind MJMajid and all his "Jewish Cabal" friends the one salient fact that drives U.S. support of Israel - it is the ONLY democratic and free country in the whole Middle-East. As soon as one of their theocratic or oligarcic neighbors decide to join the rest of us here in the 21st century, maybe their concerns will rank higher on our list of things to give a s*** about.

Posted by: commonsense26 | November 25, 2008 1:37 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, it is Colbert King who does not get it. Ayman al-Zawahiri would not have minded if not one American read his comments. Al Qaeda is a political organisation and like all political organisations they wish to obtain power. There is no democratic way in which they can seize power so they have to resort to the alternative political strategy of terrorism. If they are to succeed in obtaining power they require the support of a substantial number of moderate Muslims which is why they claim what they are doing is God's will. We, of course, know much better and have no political organisations or campaigns that base their argument on it being God's will. If Al Qaeda is to be defeated it will not be by us, it will be by the opposition of the same moderate Muslims. You only have to look to the Anbar Awakening for evidence of that. All we can do to support those Muslims. George W Bush supported Al Qaeda by creating the impression that America was at war with Islam. Barack Obama has excited most of the world to think that he will restore our moral leadership. Therefore, it is important that Al Qaeda convinces Muslims that he is a person of no worth, hence writing him off as a "house slave" and as the son of a Muslim who turned his back on the true faith. In other words, a nobody and that Muslims should not look to America for support but to Al Qaeda.

Posted by: Chrisle | November 25, 2008 5:36 AM | Report abuse

First, robertjames1 must be from another planet. to say that Al Qaeda didn't fourish until Bush invaded Iraq (he aparently did it personally, without anyone's help) is just ignorant. They had safe-haven... oh, never mind.

Second, Colbert King on foreign affairs looked interesting. Turns out this was not about foreign affairs, or interesting. Same old stuff.

Posted by: steveroake | November 25, 2008 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Most of the above posts say it all.

Al Queda is (thus far anyway) the "strategic victor" on the "War on terror." Blunders by the Bush Administration have enhanced its fortunes far beyond what they can have hoped for with the attacks of 9/11 in terms of recruitment and popular support.

Zawahiri's statement may or may not show some ignorance about America. As one comment suggests, it is directed at a Muslim audience (and is a minor slip in any case). Zawahiri obviously is far better informed about the West than President Bush ahd the leading lights of his administration are about the Middle East and the Muslim world.

Posted by: GaryPeschell | November 25, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

King is correct to point out the foolishness of al-Quaeda's statements. I think it belies a bitterness that in electing Obama America took a big step towards living up to its ideals and thus undercutting criticisms that the US isn't a "real" democracy.

That being said Mr. King needs to do some research on how slavery actually occurred. The romantic notion that many blacks harbor about whites leading raids into the African interior to capture and enslave people is utterly divorced from reality. European colonies were mainly relegated to the coasts due to fear of disease and local resistance. The vast majority of black slaves brought to the Americas were from interior tribes defeated by powerful west African kingdoms (also comprised of black people) and empires in warfare then sold amongst themselves and to whites. This practice had gone on for centuries, Europeans simply found a new way to exploit it during the age of exploration.

Its true that the hideous development of racial hierarchy around slavery is something that developed in the Americas and is a blight we live with to this day. However that's no reason to propagate historical fictions about how the slave trade actually worked.

Posted by: nitrojunkie_20723 | November 25, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Shocked. I've always expected much more sensitivity from terrorists.

Posted by: TheProFromDover | November 25, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Unlike Chrisle, who wrote: "Ayman al-Zawahiri would not have minded if not one American read his comments" I am not so sure. I tend to imagine the renowned terrorist sitting down each morning in his bathrobe and slippers and googling for feedback. Possibly, he would stop and print off any really good comments for preserving later in a special scrapbook.

Zawahiri's deeds have brought his own house down upon head. Was it worth the death of
a wife and beloved child? A special child, yes, born with Down Syndrome. Their deaths made it personal. And what amount of carnage would avenge that loss? They were irreplaceable. Destroying the world would not be their equal. An obscenity to try to make it so.

As to slavery, I am unfamiliar with the Qur'an, so will have to make do with the words of the Jewish prophet, but despite their source, I believe they hold up today: "Whoever commits sin is the slave of sin."

The election of Barack Obama proves once for all that the United States of America will not be defined by our past, not slavery, not 9/11, and least of all, not by you, Dr. Zawahiri.
We will no longer be forced to play inside an arena marked with the old divisions of the past, and neither should you be. We have taken a giant leap forward. So, Dr. Zawahiri, should you.

That is what I, a common citizen who voted for Barack Obama, would imagine myself saying to the web-surfing terrorist still in his bathrobe and slippers, looking for reassurance that he has not lost his place in this new world. And I would add, get dressed, and go back to treating sick people. Good deeds don't make the big news but they change lives.

Posted by: martymar123 | November 25, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I laughed my head off when I heard Zawahiri's comment on the news. The irony that escapes him: It doesn't work to refer to a guy as a house slave if he's the one who owns the house, and the plantation it's on, and if he's been put in charge of the country the house and plantation are in, and if that country is the dominant actor on the world stage. You can't be a house slave at the same time you're the most powerful person on earth. If you could, people would be lining up to become house slaves.

Posted by: jlizkenn@aol.com | November 25, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Good article Colbert. One of the advantages I see in having Obama as President is that he will continue to do 90% of what Bush was doing. This will make Al Qaeda attack him (check, lol) and make leftists run to his defense (check) and thereby validate the Bush anti-terror structure. I see that a lot of the rants here are left-wing nutters attacking you and agreeing that Al Qaeda as the morally superior force vis a vis the US. Don't worry, they'll come around.

Posted by: ZZim | November 25, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

If Al-Qaeda was that smart they'd take Pakistan. If we loose Pakistan we loose Afghanistan by default.

Posted by: nuke41 | November 25, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

If Al-Qaeda was that smart they'd take Pakistan. If we loose Pakistan we loose Afghanistan by default.

Posted by: nuke41 | November 25, 2008 11:35 AM

They do not want Pakistan or Afghanistan, those countries are the wrong side of Iran.

Posted by: Chrisle | November 25, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Thanks "Common-nonsense26" for your erroneous allegations of Israel being a democracy-not! How is a country that was essentially created by the western powers in their evident efforts to atone for their indifference to European atrocities committed by the Nazis, any better than its own former German antagonist in its behavior towards indigeneous arab peoples, when it keeps 4.5 million of them under the longest running military occupation in modern history. Don't believe it? I suggest you exercise your paltry intellect by reading excerpts from Ariel Sharon's speeches to the Israeli knesset.

Posted by: SMMajid_1 | November 25, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

"timscanlon said: I think the solution to Al-Qaeda is simply to shoot them and their Taliban supporters. As well as anyone else who wants to support them."
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Brilliant suggestion.
I wonder why Bush, Rumsfeld, and various assorted generals didn't think of that, it's such a simple solution!
And they call themselves the Chiefs of Staff. Hmph!

Of course, we have to come up with a foolproof way to identify all them Al-Qaeda and Taliban creeps - obviously, any dark-skinned men in turbans, robes and beards are terrorists, so they're sitting ducks. The Sikhs? Oh, they'll just be collateral damage, no one cares about them anyway.

We'll shoot all of the turbaned/robed/bearded men that live in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, and aw heck while we're at it let's take out Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE, just for good measure.

And then when the Palestinians and Syrians get ticked off that we just wiped out 50% of the Eastern Muslim world, we'll shoot them too.

And then when the Britons, French, Germans and Scandinavians start screaming about how we're committing genocide, we'll shoot them too.

We should take out Canada on principle alone.

And you just KNOW that those yella lefty commie pinko hippies in America are going to start protesting, so we may as well shoot them now before they even get a chance, after all, I got one living next door to me, it'll be easy to take him out. I'm sick of smelling his patchouli anyway.

Africa's already killing itself, so nothing for us to worry about there.
Eastern Europeans love to shoot each other, too, so we'll let them handle the Caucuses and the Balkans.

Not that they'll say much about our war on terror, but we bombed Japan once, we may as well bomb them again, they make crappy cars anyway.

Leave China alone, they make lots of cheap stuff and of course I'm an Amurican and it's patriotic to run up my credit cards and HELOC so I can buy stuff, stuff, and more stuff.

Leave Mexico alone, too, I like talking about building a wall on the border but also paying $1 for a head of lettuce and gettin clean sheets when I stay at the Best Western.
Definitely leave the Caribbean, I need a place to get some sun and a mojito after all the undesirables are gone and I can safely leave the country without packing heat.
Do people really live in Australia? Huh! Didn't know that. Well, I'm sure they're on our side, and if they're not, then we'll shoot them too.

That will pretty much leave America and Israel to rule the world, and that's when Jesus can come back and take us all up to meet Reagan...er, I mean, God.

Brilliant, brilliant plan. I think we're on to something. Someone call Dick Cheney, we've only got 2 months left!!

:) :)

Posted by: JMGinPDX | November 25, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

And by the way, "Commonsense 26," you might want to check your spelling-ie: "oligarcic"??? Really, such sophomoric errors make you look like such a RUBE!

Posted by: SMMajid_1 | November 25, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

fredfawcett: "I think Bush, Cheney and company played right into Al Qaida's hands with their Iraq invasion and occupation. The only thing that's prevented us from having to pay an even more terrible price is Al Qaida's own incompetence."

That's because you don't understand what happened from their perspective. The Al Qaeda strategy was do draw the US into a war in the Middle East. They did that. They offered us good incentives and we took them. But they miscalculated because the rest of the plan went - Heroic Arab warriors destroy the US paper tiger and drive the Crusader armies into the sea causing a collapse of the christian civilization and making room for the emergence of the world-wide caliphate under the Bin Laden dynasty.

Oops, lol.

They lured is into battle because they thought they could defeat us, but they had a fundamental misunderstanding of the world. As we see from the latest propaganda attempt.

Posted by: ZZim | November 25, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Thanks "Common-nonsense26" for your erroneous allegations of Israel being a democracy-not! How is a country that was essentially created by the western powers in their evident efforts to atone for their indifference to European atrocities committed by the Nazis, any better than its own former German antagonist in its behavior towards indigeneous arab peoples, when it keeps 4.5 million of them under the longest running military occupation in modern history. Don't believe it? I suggest you exercise your paltry intellect by reading excerpts from Ariel Sharon's speeches to the Israeli knesset.

Posted by: SMMajid_1 | November 25, 2008 12:40 PM

I really have to correct all the errors in this post. The country was not created by the western powers to atone for their indifference to European atrocities committed by the Nazis. The Balfour Declaration accepted the principle of a Jewish homeland in Palestine providing that the Jews did not interfere with any Palestinian homes. This was made in 1917 and a considerable time before the Nazi party came into being. As the western powers were at war with Nazi Germany while Nazi Germany was committing those atrocities it is hardly fair to accuse them of indifference. After World War II, in 1948, the Jews living in Palestine proclaimed Palestine to be the Jewish state of Israel. The Arabs went to war against the new State of Israel and were defeated. It is from then that Israel became established. Whatever anyone may think of the current State of Israel they should at least be aware of its origins.

Posted by: Chrisle | November 25, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

JimGinPDX, I loved the timely and well thought out prose-you're a poet and you know it! timscanlon's rantings merely prove my assumption that he is probably off his meds. Maybe he needs some faux reality 50 mg. from commonsense26!

Posted by: SMMajid_1 | November 25, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Much like those Americans who can't imagine a president who is not white because it challenges their fiercely held perceptions of reality, Al-Quada doesn't exactly know how to make hay in their usual way - which is to appeal to those who assume America to be the enemy of all people of color - and Obama messes with the minds of both essentially racist groups. Oh, well! Too bad! Both narrow interest groups are out in the cold if they insist on clinging to their historic SOPs and sterotypical constituencies.

Posted by: BennyFactor | November 25, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

The Balfour declaration of 1917 was drafted in accordance with the well-expressed desires of the European zionist leaders that had been extensively lobbying for Israel's creation. The fact that the contemporary mideast was colonized by the European powers prior to Israel's 1948 creation does not preclude the fact that it was created as another colonialist power to govern on behalf of the European powers who began to lose their hegemony subsequent to WW II. This is evidenced by France's loss of Lebanon and Syria, and Britain's loss of Palestine, Eygpt and trans-Jordan. Balfour's declaration merely created the impetus for Israel's creation, while WWII solidified its reality as a colonialist power. One need look no further than its now-defunct policy of Eretz Israel as espoused by Theodore Herzl, Golda Mier, and Ariel Sharon. In 1948, the campaign of ethnic cleansing was well understood among Israeli leaders such as Ben Gurion, Begin and their associates in the Haganah,Irgun and Palmach paramilitary organizations. These cleansings were not exactly facilitated by indigeonous arab peoples being paid to leave their homes and villages. The Israelis, well armed and financed by the West Europeans, could not help but prevail. Anything less would have illustrated their own callous indifference toward realizing their zionist aspirations. You are all welcome to disagree, and you can ignore history to your heart's content, yet it doesn't belie the fact that Israel cannot call itself a jewish state, and still claim to be a democracy in the true sense of the word. The two concepts are mutually exclusive. I did appreciate the well written different opinion.

Posted by: SMMajid_1 | November 25, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Chrisle, the indifference I was referring to can be exemplified by the Petain's Vichy government of occupied France which was an accomplice to Nazi atrocities, as well as the British government having proven intel about the existence of the death camps, and their complete refusal in taking action against them through either bombing the railroad networks that carried their human cargo to camps such as Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, and Birkenau, or by their refusal to desrupt the German holocaust industry through covert means. The allied decisions to not intervene were made at the highest levels of command, signifying that the West's indifference was one of clearly defined policy. The crucial difference was that neither Churchill or Roosevelt could have imagined the scope of the atrocities that were committed by the Germans. Through their refusal to act in order to prevent more deaths among Europe's jews, the Western powers were indeed guilty of gross indifference to the suffering of their fellow human beings.

Posted by: SMMajid_1 | November 25, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Zawahiri is an A$$. What else is new. Why dissect his statements.

Let's go dissect Hitler's speeches. Who cares?

He's an A$$.

Plain and simple.

Obama being elected doesn't fit into his preachings, so he cites an exception.

He's an A$$. An Ignorant, A$$.

Posted by: LeftwithNochoice | November 25, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

The Balfour declaration of 1917 was drafted in accordance with the well-expressed desires of the European zionist leaders that had been extensively lobbying for Israel's creation..

Posted by: SMMajid_1 | November 25, 2008 1:35 PM

Again you overstate your case. It is true that European Zionist leaders had been extensively lobbying for the creation of the State of Israel.In 1917 the Bolsheviks overthrew the czarist government and sued for peace with Germany. The British government feared that the Bolsheviks would enter the war on the side of Germany. In order to prevent this British policy was changed and the declaration made as a sign of "sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations." However, the Balfour declaration fell far short of their hopes and aspirations so it cannot be said to be drafted in accordance with their desires.

They are perfectly entitled to claim to be a democracy you are perfectly entitled to refute the claim. We claim to be a democracy but you do not have to look very far to discover some very undemocratic practices.

Posted by: Chrisle | November 25, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

"This is not to say that Zawahiri has no standing to bring up the subject of slavery. After all, it was his forebearers who started the slave trade in Sub-Saharan Africa, capturing men and women of a much darker hue and spiriting them off to lands of people with much lighter hues. The Arab slave trade managed to pull off this theft of black people several centuries before Europeans discovered that there were goodies to be had stealing and selling human beings who didn't look like them. So yes, for Zawahiri -- a Muslim, an Egyptian and a student of Islamic history -- the enslavement of blacks is as much a part of his heritage as the erection of the Great Pyramids. He owns the subject."

I like this because much as I hate to admit it, I really was ignorant of world history on this subject. I would imagine, if we go far enough back we all have some slaves and masters in our backgrounds. And of course we are all descendants of the same African woman who was the mother of us all.

I like what the NY African Americans said in response to AZ's statement, as reported on CNN, that it was really insulting because after all they would speak for themselves. 89% of American Muslims voted for Barack Obama.

Posted by: martymar123 | November 25, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Zawahiri and his fellow Al-Qaida killers don't have a clue. They have murdered more people of the Islamic faith over the last few years than Americans. When is the Islamic world going to condem them? When are the orders to kill on site going to come out against them, as they do all the time for any Western writer or artist that somehow manages to offend them - what about murders of ISlamic men, women and children? Not even the American Islamic groups have done that. Until they do that Islam will always be a "Gutter" religon - not fit for human consuption - not even by Arabs. A home to fanatics and murders.

One good thing in our favor is that this Zawahiri guy and his fellow criminals and murders are just as dumb as Bush and his Republican friends.

Now with Bush gone we should be able to eliminate these morons without too much trouble.

Where the heck is Bin Laden? Maybe he is dead and they have been unable to piece together some sort of "taped" message about Obama and his victory. His silence speaks volumes.

Posted by: gooch73 | November 25, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

first, who cares what al qaeda thinks...
all we have to know is, does he think obama is weak enough to attack...
it's no secret al qaeda is in America, all over the country...
do they think they can capitalize laughing attacks on America...
question is, which country paid al qaeda to do the attacks...
betcha it's the first country to offer us their help after the attacks...

Posted by: DwightCollins | November 25, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I love Mr. King. Great smile.

Anyway, who cares what Al-Kayda thinks. Anybody belongs to it, you kill them. You don't stop until people get that Al-Kayda equals death if you belong to it.

Simple to solve things when you have the will to suceed.

Posted by: Skeptic1 | November 25, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps we should say that Israel is the closest thing the Middle East has to a democracy -- complete with civil rights (actual, not just in theory). For example, occasionally a leader is voted into power in Israel who favors trading land for peace. I ask you: when has that happened in Syria? Among the Palestinians? In Jordan? In Iraq? In Iran? In Egypt? Answers: never, never, never, never, never, and once (and Sadat paid with his life).
Another question: In which Middle Eastern countries can you pass out religious literature for a religion other than the majority religion, and even convert from that majority religion, without being murdered by zealots with the acquiescence of the government? (Hint: It is a trick question -- there is only one Mideast country with anything that Americans would recognize as religious tolerance.)

Posted by: dmm1 | November 25, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I am wondering if a single poster here, including the author, has ever read one intelligence report.

The wild claims being made here (al Qaeda flourishing only after the Iraq invasion being among the worst, but certainly not the only one) tell me no.

Even Obama, after he was elected and was fully briefed, has backed off some of his earlier, irresponsible foreign policy statements because he now has access to new intelligence showing the value of our role in the Middle East (yes, including Iraq). So much for hope and change, left wing nuts. The adults know better.

If you don't have access to the intelligence, then just shut up because you're only making yourself sound stupid.

Posted by: etpietro | November 25, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Disagreeing with an Al Qaeda operative... what a controversial piece.

Posted by: fake1 | November 25, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Americans elected this man to be the president of the most powerful country the planet has ever seen, hopefully though he won't be forced to use that power. What we need more than anything is to rebuild America. After WWII the U.S. and it's allies rebuilt most of the now free world but we have neglected our own country for far too long trying to be the world's police force. We can't be an example to other fledgling democratic countries or give advice on how to run a democracy with all of the flaws we have now. We need to come together and rebuild and restrengthen America. Maybe then God will bless us again. The entire world is watching and waiting for us to show them the way, all we have to do is take the small steps we need to get it done. God bless us all.

Posted by: rrhein | November 25, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I am wondering if a single poster here, including the author, has ever read one intelligence report.

The wild claims being made here (al Qaeda flourishing only after the Iraq invasion being among the worst, but certainly not the only one) tell me no.

Even Obama, after he was elected and was fully briefed, has backed off some of his earlier, irresponsible foreign policy statements because he now has access to new intelligence showing the value of our role in the Middle East (yes, including Iraq). So much for hope and change, left wing nuts. The adults know better.

If you don't have access to the intelligence, then just shut up because you're only making yourself sound stupid.

Posted by: etpietro | November 25, 2008 4:35 PM
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Brilliant Pietro, brilliant. It was just a matter of time (and information) before Obama started thinking and acting like GWB. His wacky supporters are going to be so dissappointed. I hope that he sets up some sort of outreach program to them in order to bring them around to supporting the War on Terror, just like the grown-ups do, lol.

Posted by: ZZim | November 25, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Gooch73,
Thanks for your insightful perspective on the "Gutter" religion and its not being fit for human consumption, and your assertions that none of its adherents have spoken out publicly about Zawahiri and failed to condemn his band of religious fanatics.I suppose the same litany of hate could be attributed towards Evangelical Christians' and their interpretation of the End of Days, wherein non-believers (Jews and Muslims included) will be cast into their lord's lake of fire by a vengeful Christ, while true believers enjoy the rapture's lifting them up prior to ascending them into paradise. If these are your core beliefs, then I would argue that the only distinction between you and Al Qaeda is the difference in religious texts. And how can you argue with such certainty that Zawahiri et al has murdered more Muslims than the US over the past 7.5 years-what are your classified sources-Bill O'Leilly and his vaunted Faux News??? Gooch73, if you want to hate people based on their religious orientation, feel free. Under W's soon to be over reign, you might even qualify to become an Attorney General who sanctions torture in the name of protecting our great democracy!

Posted by: SMMajid_1 | November 25, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

"I am wondering if a single poster here, including the author, has ever read one intelligence report."

Thank you, pietro, for riding to the rescue on your swift and powerful shetland pony.
No, I have never read an intelligence report.
I did, however, read the article. Did you?

Posted by: martymar123 | November 25, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse


One brief comment on Zawahiri: I'm not saying that he isn't speaking with ignorance on this issue, but al Qaeda hasn't been that far off with its prediction of what would happen to the United States once they were drawn in to the War on Terror.


Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | November 25, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes, I hear President-elect Obama speaking, and am reminded of these words
from Shakespeare:

"The quality of mercy is not strained.
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
Tis mightiest in the mightiest; it becomes
The throned monarch better than his crown.
His scepter shows the force of temporal power,
The attribute to awe and majesty,
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings.
But mercy is above this sceptered sway;
It is enthroned in the hearts of kings;
It is an attribute of God himself;
And earthly power doth then show like God's
When mercy seasons justice."

Posted by: martymar123 | November 25, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

As for al-Zawahiri, we should thank him for sharing and move on.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | November 25, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Al-Qaeda has never gotten it. It's why they think perpetrating horrors furthers their cause.

Posted by: bubbuh | November 26, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

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Hey, Colberto,
"the country of Obama's birth."

Are you hinting that he was born outside the USA ?
.

Posted by: BrianX9 | November 26, 2008 3:20 AM | Report abuse

Why would you want to respond to anything said by leaders of this heinous, mafia style crime ring known as Al-Qaeda ?

Posted by: tifoso1 | November 26, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Mr. King, I think you lost. Why? Because Zawahiri wants that kind of tit-for-tat jibe. By that I mean, let's get into a conversation about who is most evil, i.e. Arabs enslaved to in W. Africa and Egypt.

Posted by: hepmerria | November 26, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Although I don't completely agree with Mr. King, I think robertjames doesn't 'get it'.

There is much ignorance in saying that Al Qaeda has only flourished since Bush invaded Iraq. That kind of thinking plays right into the lack of imagination that the 9/11 Commission cited as a lesson learned from 9/11. There was ample evidence of the power of Al Qaeda long before Bush invaded Iraq.

There is also ignorance in stating that if Obama negotiates Peace Treaties then those "ordinary folk" who have flocked to Al Qaeda will abandon it and "get on with their lives." Do you really think the the US negotiating Peace Treaties with governments overseas is going to solve the problem of Al Qaeda? Al Qaeda's mission spans far broader than that, there is a millenarianism to it. Although peace treaties might make some who disagree with American foreign policy happy, it will not deplete Al Qaeda.

Posted by: smho | November 26, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

i'm afraid it becomes abundantly clear that mr. king is out of his depths on this...and tangential issues. one warped approach to historical interpretation is not best countered by an equally ill-informed interpretation to the contrary.

Posted by: panchenlama | November 27, 2008 4:25 AM | Report abuse

If anyone doesn't get it that would have to
be that pathetic wimpy lying covert Muslim
Mr Fancy "The Office of the President Elect" Podium Trainee Messiah Barack Hussein Obama,since Obama seems to think he
can go "talk to these Terrorists" even after Osama bin Laden's Number Two Mad Man
al_Zawahri called the big lying coward Obama a "house Negro" and which once again
proves that Obama just don't get it and is
not fit to be President of the USA. Impeach
Obama one minute after he and Biden are
swore in or watch Surrender Barack Obama
surrender the US to Osama bin Laden and
Al_Qeada before 2012.

Posted by: sherrykay2008 | November 27, 2008 6:51 AM | Report abuse

Al Qaeda doesn't get it? Hell, REPUBLICANS don't get it, so don't be too hard on the idiots plotting total world domination in some cave in the middle of nowhere. And by that I mean Al Qaeda, not Republicans.

Posted by: rnsmatile | November 27, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Mr King:

Ayman al-Zawahiri seems to be an unpleasant man and there are probably many reasons to abhor him. But to blame anyone for who his ancestors were and what they did is the essence of racism. Let us not sink to their level.

KJBarton

Posted by: kjbarton1 | November 27, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Ayaman al-Zawahiri died five years ago, and he had nothing to do with the September 11 terrorism, nor did Osama bin Laden. There was a report in the Iranian Hayat-e-Nou newspaper that Ayman al Zawahiri was arrested in Tehran on February 17, 2002. See http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/feb/18/iran.afghanistan If it were true, however, we would have known by now.

A link to a video of Zawhiri spouting this propaganda would help. Then I could compare him to the real Zawahiri and known fakes. See http://www.geocities.com/evian0630fra/EV000binladenandzawahiri.html Incidentally, it is hard to believe that a real Arab terrorist leader made these remarks, rather than the CIA.

Posted by: markoller | November 27, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Do not forget the Jewish slave trade. Download http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/08slave.htm

Posted by: markoller | November 27, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Al Qaeda and the Taliban get it, but our current executive does not. When fundamentalist madrassahs in Pakistan are turning out unfit for jobs idealogues which are then recruited by those that get it. Gul and his henchmen are purged from ISI but I believe are actively planning assaults in surrounding countries. Mumbai and Afghan attacks show a level of planning that does not come from a cave. The mad Egyptian doctor knows an even fair Obama kills his call to Jihad and moves Islam to moderation. House negroe plays to the stupid in Islam and India's muslims tend to have more education and better standard of living than their Pakistan counterparts. The building of moderate madrassahs to replace the strict sharia ones in Pakistan will turn around the 30% illiteracy rate. Zadari seems to me out for revenge against his wife's killers and a hard push from our side will leave the Taliban no quarter. Lashkar tribe should be funded, protected and armed, as they are part of a divide and conquer strategy to win the tribes. More than half the population is under 30, making education and rising standard of living part of our mission. Win the people, win the war.

Posted by: jameschirico | November 28, 2008 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Bin Laden and al Qaida are fanatic islamic terrorists. They were that before Bush became president and they'll be that after he leaves office. They'll be that after Obama takes office and he'd better be ready for them.

The terrorists are murderous barbarians who kill anyone who isn't muslim or who isn't muslim enough for them. If you're nice to them--they'll still kill you. The only way to treat these low-life animals is to kill them before they can hurt or kill you or your families.

Posted by: tharper1 | November 29, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

al qaeda's crazy
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No, Al Qaeda isn't crazy. They are cold, calculating and remorseless, but then again so are we.
They didn't attack the US for "notoriety", they wanted the economic and cultural imperialism of the United States to take a military form because they just couldn't get enough Muslims to take up arms against Hollywood and Banana Republic. Nothing radicalizes the locals like a little shock and awe and we obliged.
Since the more of them you kill, the easier it is to recruit replacements, the military option has left AQ "fellow travelers" in control or partial control of several ME and African states, mission accomplished indeed. Further, it's put the most effective opponent of our strategy in the ME in charge in Iraq. The big winner of the Iraqi invasion turns out to be Iran. It's created a self perpetuating fiasco that will have to be carefully managed for generations to retrieve a positive outcome.
It's what happens when you leave a pack of bloodthirsty cowards in charge of the national government.

Posted by: dijetlo | November 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

When the U.S. stops being so obviously hypocritical ... something that Americans are completely blind to... nothing is going to change... supporting israel's repression of the palestinians, the saud family repressing the saudi's... then calling iran a terrorist country right after invading iraq and killing thousands of people so they can be free... there was no al-qaida in iraq before bush... america could have crushed al-qaida in afghanistan but cheney had other ideas.... and we're paying $10 billion a month for his arrogance and bush/rumsfeld/bremmer stupidity.

Posted by: kkrimmer | November 29, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least Obama isn't living in a cave wearing a burka in the dark.

The AQ people remind me of the little loudmouths on the playgrounds when we were kids. The ones that taunted you, and gave you a sucker punch, then ran to the teacher tearfully swearing that you started it. Good riddance, each and every one.

Posted by: renaissance_warrior | December 1, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

My son said, "I think the term Zawahiri is searching for is HNIC. And I DO mean H!"

Posted by: SoldiersMom | December 1, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

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