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You might have thought rank-and-file Republicans learned their lesson after their invocations of Joe the Plumber failed to halt Barack Obama’s march to the presidency. Apparently not. It looks as though the Republican National Committee won't, as planned, vote on a resolution to request that the Democratic Party rename itself the “Democrat Socialist Party” at the RNC's (ironically very Soviet-sounding) extraordinary special session today. Instead, CNN reports, the resolution on the table now merely condemns "the Democrats' march to socialism." Oh, that's all.

Sure, it's nice that the derisively ungrammatical term “Democrat Party” was dropped -- it's the grown-up equivalent of seven-year-olds on the playground willfully mispronouncing the short kid’s name and snickering about it. (This, of course, never happened to seven-year-old me, even though even I had trouble explaining what that “ph” was for.)

But these Republicans, it seems, still must hurl the epithet “socialist” with the dictional facility of an oxygen-starved Levi Johnston. Even though Vladimir Lenin would have called President Obama a class enemy before a comrade -- and America’s socialists are screaming that they don’t want to be associated with the president. Okay, granted, when pressed, the GOPers would probably admit that they mean Obama is more Gerhard Schröder than Rosa Luxemburg, but that’s not why they are using the term, weighted as it is with pinko-tinted connotation.

Michael Steele, the mercurial chairman of the RNC, opposed the old resolution. Will he oppose the new one today? Neither is likely to help the GOP look anything more than puerile and fixated -- and both obscure the legitimate policy differences between the parties.

I hate to say this, since I find a lot of Obama’s rhetoric to be unbearably saccharine, but if saying goodbye to childish things means I never have to hear the phrases “Democrat Socialist Party,” or "Democrats' march to socialism" again, sign me up.

Update: The RNC approved the revised resolution today, which included this choice line: "Resolved, that we the members of the Republican National Committee recognize that the Democratic Party is dedicated to restructuring American society along socialist ideals."

By Stephen Stromberg  | May 20, 2009; 9:00 AM ET
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Mr. Stromberg,
So--in the midst of financial, social, health, and economic (jobs) meltdown, this is what the RNC focuses on? Brilliant strategy.
Makes you wonder when they will bring out the old "nanny nanny boo boo" offensive...
On a serious note--whenever anyone of any weight speaks to bringing back some economic equality for the masses, the cliched "socialism" rears its ugly (and regrettably, effective--til now) head as a dire warning. While agreeing that this form of government has been been egregiously misapplied, so has democracy as evidenced by the vast exclusivity, nepotism, graft, corruption and criminality of our elected officials. This deep seated anger, by the way, is felt towards BOTH parties, and if the conversations we, as average citizens, have had in 10 states with people of all stripes, colors, and economic status are any indication, this outrage shows no signs of abating as we watch the inept and/or corrupt Neros fiddling while Rome goes up in a conflagration.
It is unfortunate, but does socialism look terribly negative compared to what we (the have-nots, the not politically connected) have now? I believe the answer is an emphatic NO. Unless this country begins to reflect the true meaning of democracy again, I think we are heading for a real confrontation between the completely disconnected power elites and the citizens who have to live with their self-serving, greed inspired decisions. The time of citizens believing posturing, puerile blather is over--the irrefutable proof of their immorality has been, shall we say, in the putting.
That makes me terribly, pensively sad--I want my country back...

Posted by: ibnrn06 | May 20, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

As the Republicans announce their unhappiness with the Democratic "Socialist" party, they might do well to further their cause [and eventual implosion] by attacking the most socialist programs we have in the United States, Social Security and Medicare.
When will we hear the Republicans shout how they are against Social security for all Americans and any help with their health care through medicare/medicaid as they represent the slow path to Socialism.
So republicans, are you ready to tell the American people how much you hate Socialism and its associated programs? Or, as I would imagine they would do, as the feckless cowards and just-say-no party they have become, that those represent good Socialism, but what the Democrats want is bad Socialism.
Let it be shouted out loud and strong, THE REPUBLICANS DO NOT BELIEVE IN SOCIAL SECURITY, THE REPUBLICANS DO NOT BELIEVE IN MEDICARE! Down with socialism [that we the republican party believes is bad socialism, but we do endorse programs that we think is good socialism]

Posted by: freund3 | May 20, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats and Republicans are both opportunists; only their rhetoric differs. Barack Obama is willing to pander to everyone from William Ayers to Rahm Emmanuel. John McCain was a former best friend of John Kerry who makes William Ayers seem like a patriot. When the political climate changed, McCain started pandering to Zionist terrorists and fundamentalist crazies.

Posted by: markoller | May 20, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I have watched over the past 10 years as my party has slowly been taken over by more and more radical elements. They seem driven by radio entertainers whose sole interest is in creating entertaining radio programs. They seek to create emotional reactions in their listeners and the easiest emotion to conjure up is anger or hate. Which is then directed at democrats who are all then equated with the most liberal examples they can find, who are then equated with marxist/socialists. Now my party has been reduced to the small rump (and I mean that in every sense of the word) that seem to thrive on the petty nonsense that drives talk radio.

Posted by: kchses1 | May 20, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Party has been trying to rename the Democratic Party for years. It galls them to not be considered democratic -- the fact that they most certainly are not has no bearing on the matter.

Posted by: DonAlbertson | May 20, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

The republicans have lost their core values and the democrats have none. We the People need to vote them out and start afresh. We still have the power, what we need is the will. Is Nancy Pelosi the best we can get to lead the House of the People? Is Harry Reid really the best choice for the greatest deliberative body in the world? Is a self-serving Arlin Specter really what Pennsylvania want and need? The problem with a democracy is you get the government you deserve. We deserve this one! I personally want a better one.

Posted by: the_node | May 20, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Name calling is silly, but in politics, it works. Ask Pelosi, Reid, Daschle, Kennedy and Obama. They used it to win power. The RNC doesn't have to pass it's resolution. The seed is planted. Unfortunately, the Dems aren't just socialists, they're liberal fascists---extreme socialists. Sadly, W and DeLay also were big government socialists, which means the tag isn't very worrisome to most voters. The kiddies who elected Obama and the Dems last year believe the government owes them. They think socialism would be and is good. So changing the name of the Democratic Party to the Democratic Socialist-Labor Party probably would attract as many voters as it would repel.

Posted by: donaldjohnson | May 20, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I have been a Republican since Nixon and could not be more embarrassed at their behavior and choices for leaders. I want them all to just grow up and quit acting like Democrats and spoiled children.

Republicans are supposed to think with their brains. Democrats are allowed to think with their feelings. I have not seen much thinking from either side in the past 20 years so who knows how it works now.

The actions both parties have taken are all self centered or focused on the select few and not on the majority. That brings to mind the old saying that capitalist share the prosperity and socialist share the misery. I think this is going to prove itself true over the next couple of years. God help us all.

Posted by: longbow651 | May 20, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ibnrn06
Mr. Stromberg,
So--in the midst of financial, social, health, and economic (jobs) meltdown, this is what the RNC focuses on? Brilliant strategy….”
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I could not have said it any better. Thank you.

Posted by: longbow651 | May 20, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

LOL, liberal fascists. Yes, and there are many heavy light things and hot cold things out there, right? Are conservatives really as stupid as they sound?

Posted by: benandpogo | May 20, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I have a resolution for them. Let's call them the Republican Fascist Party: http://comityofarrears.blogspot.com.

Posted by: noctsomniae | May 20, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

We have ALWAYS been socialists - what nation is not?

I am 63 and never had any children - yet every year I am forced to "socialize" other people's children with a free education which the parents allow the children to waste!

Tell me NannyBooHoo GOP Rich Country Club Compassionate Conservative Evangelical Republicans just why this isn't socialism?

Posted by: anderson2 | May 20, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

First let me start by saying that Karl Marx created socialism from a bastard lineage; disease and corruption has dsetroyed the Prussian empire, Wales is now the superior naval power, the Nordik empire has fallen to Germany. Spain is controling the Mediterraneanian, to keep from an all out war with the king Italy surrenders its northern territories to Spain. Engalnd forms a treaty with Russia, which the Bulshevicks break by killing the Fabrasaire Prince, Nicholas II. An assassination that the crown claims it had no part in. Part of the treaty was the prince was to marry an italian princess which would give England control of the world banks, this sent the Russian rubel to a crash. Which caused its civil war, the bastard child.

Posted by: edtroyhampton | May 20, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Anderson 2
I went to school a hundred years ago but still cling to the definition of socialism found in Webster. Depending on your edition it is simply * a system of government that where the government controls all the means of production and distribution of the benefits of production.*

While the federal government has lately intruded into the states rights in education there still is considerable input by the states and local government agencies. While one can argue this constitutes government control it is certainly diluted control of the means of production and the distribution of the product is certainly beyond the reach of government.

Universal education is, without a doubt, the major reason for the ascendency of the United States to a preeminent position over Europe and Asia. Both began to approach and,some think, supplant the U.S. only after educating their citizenry. You can thank all those well educated kids for what ever standard of living you have enjoyed in this country.

It's all part of the effect wiser men than we have now in the halls of power who rejected the ideology of you're on your own for the philosophy it takes a village.

Posted by: sauerkraut | May 20, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

freund3:

Thank you for pointing out the Republican Party's hypocracy. If it is socialist today, why wasn't the implementation of Social Security and Medicare socialist when it came about in the 1930's? As a conservative, it drives me nuts. Pres. Bush signing the prescription drug benefit into law is a prime example of why the Republican Party also needs to change it's name to include 'socialist'. They have no standing to call the Dems "socialist" unless they're willing to take the name themselves. It's the age old battle, the Repubs want the status quo socialism (social security, medicare), whereas the Dems want to take the socialism further (universal healthcare, paying for college tuition).

What I find amusing is the liberals who have no idea (or they're just not willing to admit) we're already a socialist society. What is socialized medicine and socialized pensions if it's not socialism? If it quacks like a duck...

Posted by: GodFamilyNation | May 20, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

"Republican Corpofascist Party"
Hey! Now that's an idea.
lol

Posted by: abelito | May 20, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

someone buy donaldjohnson a dictionary. he has no idea what the word "socialist" even means. we have, even after the financial crisis, not a SINGLE nationalized bank. on second thought someone buy him an education.

Posted by: Vizier6 | May 20, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

I actually hoped they would waste their time on debating the "Democrat Socialist Party." It's one more wedge dividing the 21% and falling Republicans from moderates and independents in this country. In a time of near catastrophic challenges Republicans are resorting to school yard taunts. And they wonder why they're not in power any longer.

Posted by: Omyobama | May 20, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: anderson2
Tell me NannyBooHoo GOP Rich Country Club Compassionate Conservative Evangelical Republicans just why this isn't socialism?
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Even when I try to be serious about a subject somebody will come along and just provoke me in using terms like bed wetting socialist panty waist liberals that can not get it through their heads that moderate conservatives know the Republicans have not been heading in the right direction because they think the demoquacks are leading the way as socialist centrist. The way is into oblivion as the blind leads the blind Obamanation.

The present Yomama/Clinton admenstruation is creating the United Socialist States of Euromerica and it will not hold the promise the old Democratic Republic held by adhering to capitalistic practice of productivity, freedom and liberties granted the citizens. You obvious have no children so you are not concerned with grand children but many of us do and I do not relish the idea of having to pass on a socialist serfdom legacy to them simply because some crack pot dope heads felt it necessary to only take and not produce. I will not give it up with out a fight so the battle lines are drawn. Brace your self because it will not be a pleasant experience when we have had enough controls forced on us.

Posted by: longbow65 | May 20, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Freund3 wrote:
THE REPUBLICANS DO NOT BELIEVE IN SOCIAL SECURITY, THE REPUBLICANS DO NOT BELIEVE IN MEDICARE! Down with socialism [that we the Republican Party believes is bad socialism, but we do endorse programs that we think is good socialism]
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Just a little confusion where you stand so I will just assume you are a socialist or communist for sake of argument. Social Security was a benevolent effort that was created for the common good for those that had no pensions or income but had produced in the past and contributed to it. When our government found a way to buy votes using this coffer it was a matter of time before they emptied it. Greed and corruption has crippled the effectiveness of our elected officials to function and when they get their hands on all of the assets of this country, “you ain’t seen nothing yet.”

The U.S. is heading into third world status because that is what Europe wants and Obama will hand it to them on a platter. The truth is the world needs the U.S. but I really do not think the U.S. needs the worlds help at all. I do not have the answers but would like to see a bit more isolation for security’s sake. The corporate and government elite are building a working utopia on the back of every working family in America. Soon the working man will experience wage slavery and only then will you understand what is being said. It’s OK to laugh now because it will not be funny later for your children and grand children. Welcome all to the New Changed America.

Posted by: longbow65 | May 20, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Take a long look at communist China because that is our future model. "Socialism with a heart" and property ownership for the masses. That may have been a quote from Bill or Hillary Clinton but I can not remember for sure. Government control from cradle to grave.

Posted by: longbow65 | May 20, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Socialist or not the current Democratic agenda in this country is for greater government control of every aspect of American life, they are taking over industries (for our benefit of course), they want to take over health care (how it will be rationed,and all health care in the world is rationed in some form, has not been discussed)and they will decide how much you are worth and how much of your wealth you can keep. Now I don't give much weight to labels but I do notice that gun sales in this country are significantly growing and show no sign of stopping.I still think that even though most people are giving the current administration the benefit of the doubt there is a growing uneasiness with where government is going in this country.

Posted by: Tuerke9 | May 21, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Longbow,
The abuse of decorum and prejudice evidenced by calling the U.S. President "Yomama" is indefensible and childish.
I've noticed that there is always a clue in the words used by current Republicans as to the genealogy of their thinking. It's easy to work back to the source, since none of you add any thinking of your own, and I've always believed that people who don't think are afraid and fearful subjects of their tribe--you can only repeat robotic insults and lists of talking points because you have been subjugated and used, compensating with meanness, and when that fails, weapons.

Posted by: twilightblue | May 21, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

ok, after scrolling through the comments, mr donaldjohnson's caught my eye. In his humble opinion, the democrats are actually "liberal fascists"...........the periods are for the head scratching. liberal fascists; oxymoron! moron. Hows about people understand the meaning of words before they use them?

Posted by: sherlockjt | May 21, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Why don't they just write: "marching toward inefficient and wasteful economic policy?"

Then Mr. Stromberg wouldn't need to get in such a huff about being subject "derisively ungrammatical terms."

Posted by: ttj1 | May 21, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

What you know about China fits in a thimble, Longbow.
Most people in China, and even most businesses, don't pay taxes. The government instead taxes large corporate concerns and derives a lot of profit form the corporations it "partners" with.
But they also spend 1 100th of what we spend on defense and control their own medical system (which gives them more control over the cost), so without all these crony capitalists dipping their bills in the public fountain, the money goes much farther.
They have a more efficient system, is it any wonder their economy is gaining on ours?

Posted by: dijetlo | May 21, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Republicans are nuts. Seriously. Some website (conservativeHQ?) ran a poll and found that 91% of self described conservatives believe that Obama is a "Socialist", "Facist", "Marxist", or "Communist".

Meanwhile, a different poll (on a more mainstream site) shows that 63% of Americans believe that Obama's policies are moving the country in the right direction. Only twenty-some percent thought we were headed the wrong direction.

What this says to me is that either two thirds of the country are closet Socialists or 90% of Republicans are completely delusional.

Posted by: WilyArmadilla | May 21, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

The GOP is going through every parent's nightmare: They go off into the night to a party leaving explicit intructions with the oldest sibling to keep the children in line, protect the home, and for God's sake, don't do anything stupid like inviting some friends over for snacks and TV!

In effect, that is what has happened to the GOP. The parents have returned only to find the house has been trashed, the oldest sibling has turned their home into a den of rank, overemotional adolescents drunk on media attention and brief possession of absolute freedom and power.

The problem is that the GOP parents have no idea how to get rid of this bunch of spoiled, pampered snots who have taken over their home!

Posted by: jaxas | May 21, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Another really - really bad day for Baracky Hussein Obama and the DEMOCRUDS.

Posted by: hclark1 | May 21, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: twilightblue
Longbow,
The abuse of decorum and prejudice evidenced by calling the U.S. President "Yomama" is indefensible and childish.
I've noticed that there is always a clue in the words used by current Republicans as to the genealogy of their thinking.
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I have little respect for our president at the moment and less for our lying secretary of state and even less for the rabid liberal democrats attempting to tear the soul out of the greatest country on earth because of their misplaced guilt and greed. Barry has made no attempt to show who he is and has covered his tracks and his past better than any president before him. Who is Barry Obama?
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Posted by: dijetlo
What you know about China fits in a thimble, Longbow.
Most people in China, and even most businesses, don't pay taxes.
They have a more efficient system, is it any wonder their economy is gaining on ours?
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I know communist China will gladly stand the corrupt businessmen and government officials against a wall and shoot them in public if they had done to China what they did in America. For that thought they at least have my respect.

The corrupt Chinese capitalist are fleeing in great numbers to hide in the U.S. and Europe. The people in rural China are being herded into metropolitan areas to provide cheap labor for the factories turning out cheap goods to sell around the world. I wonder how that is done and a profit is realized for the corporate executives. The same way America did it in the late 1800’s in the northern factories. Wage slavery! Is that your idea of efficiency?

Posted by: longbow65 | May 21, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: WilyArmadilla
What this says to me is that either two thirds of the country are closet Socialists or 90% of Republicans are completely delusional.
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Did you know the armadillo is one of the stupidest animals on earth? Just a little trivia. I believe 30% of the citizens drank the Obama kool aid and got in line behind the crowd. They have no idea where they are heading. 30% are closet socialist that have no intention of contributing to a capitalist system by means of employment and the other 30% are intellectuals that have no common sense or a sense of self preservation and want some one to take care of them. There is left a mix of government and corporate elite that know what is happening and will reap the benefits when the United Socialist States of Euromerica is complete. Accuracy is plus or minus 5%.

Posted by: longbow65 | May 21, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Under this president, the government has effectively purchased a controlling interest in the largest automobile manufacturer in the U.S. This is a patently socialistic policy. Instead of shying away from the word, it would be honorable for Democrats to make a case for the American people why their socialistic policies are advantageous to the public.

Posted by: rounmcneal | May 22, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

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