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The GOP's Shameless New Attack

How desperate are Republicans? If their political anxiety correlates with their shamelessness, very.

Last week, the House GOP released a web video that flashed images of President Obama associating with the King of Saudi Arabia and, yes, members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus -- spliced between scenes of angry-looking foreigners burning American flags and a balaclava-clad insurgent firing a rocket propelled grenade. Yesterday, the Senate’s Republicans took their turn at alarmist political aspersioneering, releasing this web video on Obama’s plan to close the prison facility at Guantanamo Bay.

After showing the names and scary looking pictures of some of Gitmo’s most unsavory prisoners, the video cuts to a CNN anchor asking, “where are they going to go?” -- and then it flashes shots of detention facilities in military bases in the Lower 48. On screen, road signs tell us who’s really going to get creamed: Colorado, Pennsylvania, Virginia -- even Kansas! (What, did Lamar Alexander, who produced the ad, run out of swing states to scare?) “Terrorists,” the video warns in bold letters, “Coming Soon to a Neighborhood Near You.”

This isn't exactly new territory for the GOP (See Rove, Karl). And it's hard to imagine that the Republicans can squeeze much more political utility out of the Democrats-are-weaklings line -- or at least not enough to diminish Obama's sturdy popularity or distract from the all-consuming economic crisis. At the White House’s daily briefing this afternoon, anyway, Robert Gibbs, the president’s spokesman, didn’t give the impression that Obama or his attorney general are earnestly appealing to congressional Republicans to come around on Guantanamo.

Still, sadly, the threat of terrorists coming to a backyard near you has a bit of traction. More and more lawmakers are making noise about keeping Gitmo transplants out of their districts. And not just Republicans. David Obey (D-Wis.), the chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, is just one of the prominent Democrats saying that Obama won't get any money to move the prisoners until legislators get more information on the relocation process.

But just because some in Congress are acting worried doesn’t mean they should be. Maybe I’m missing something, but I’m not sure just what these ads are saying we have to fret about. A prison break? Though there are some prisoners at Gitmo who deserve to be let go -- something even the Bush administration admitted -- Obama isn’t going to release the worst-of-the-worst detainees the ad features onto American streets. Indeed, the GOP’s video even shows the heavy gates and high-security features of the facilities in which these prisoners would likely reside. Recently admitted al Qaeda agent Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri lived in a naval brig in South Carolina for nearly six years, and nearby Charleston is still intact. Colorado’s federal Supermax prison already holds Ramzi Yousef, the World Trade Center bomber, Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th 9/11 hijacker, and Richard Reed, the guy who tried to blow up a plane with a shoe bomb. The state’s no less safe for it. There’s a reason they call it Supermax.

Of course, the Republicans are trying -- poorly -- not just to stir up a little not-in-my-back-yard-ism, but also to imply that the nastiest of Gitmo’s denizens will eventually get released into your cul-de-sac instead of languishing in your local Supermax or military base. The rest of us should find the GOP’s latest video appeal a little insulting -- and Congress should cut back on the NIMBYist legislating, too.

By Stephen Stromberg  | May 6, 2009; 6:32 PM ET
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It's more politics of FEAR!
How has the military managed to keep these people locked up in Gitmo or have several of them escaped to terrorize Cuba?

Posted by: knjincvc | May 6, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Politics of FEAR is correct. Woe be on anyone who disagrees with the President, for he shall be labeled "Shameless" or Fearmonger or in some manner or fashion linked to Rush Limbaugh who has become the latest boogyman since Dick Cheney isn't around to kick anymore. GTMO should remain open until a firm plan is completed. Protections are in place to ensure no abuses can happen. Detainees have more rights than the Geneva Conventions require.

Posted by: the_node | May 7, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be nice if Dick Cheney weren't around anymore. Sadly, he keeps showing up and spewing his venom.

Posted by: lisa9 | May 7, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

"Last week, the House GOP released a web video that flashed images of President Obama BOWING TO the King of Saudi Arabia...."

Posted by: Ynot1 | May 7, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

The real point is lost, as the Post again assumes the liberal position without argument, while demonizing the opposition. Should foreign terrorists be granted US citizen rights? And do 'stress positions', 'sleep deprivation', and 'waterboarding', all of which are used in training our own forces (boot camp uses stress positions and sleep deprivation; special forces are trained with all three techniques) truly constitute torture?

Posted by: FlyDiesel | May 7, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Stromberg, maybe it's just me but I think it's a rather wise idea to make plans for placement of those prisoners BEFORE they are moved from Gitmo.

No one in their right mind would simply close a prison and then sit around scratching their heads and asking "what next?"

You attack Republicans for raising the issue but then go on to state that it is not a Republican-only worry. You also go on to say: "Obama isn’t going to release the worst-of-the-worst detainees the ad features onto American streets."
Well, that's a relief. We only have to worry about the really bad ones and not the really, really bad ones.

Thankfully, we have naifs like Stephen to assuage the fears of the silly few who might question The Obama's judgment

Posted by: spamsux1 | May 7, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Very funny and well-written post about an even funnier video. Why won't the GOP tell us about Obama's plans to arm the terrorists once they're let loose in the suburbs? Perhaps, because Republicans are in the pocket of big bioweapon.

Posted by: dpascover | May 7, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

They make new versions of the Triumph of the Will every now and then. Mostly on Fox News. I think that full disclosure requires the "Republican" Party be renamed the American Fascist Party. That is how they behave. So let it be written. So let it be done.

Posted by: DaktariImpossible | May 7, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Too bad for FlyDisel that the Army actually requires 7 hours sleep for boot camp trainees and does not use Guantanomo stress positions -- no one is shackled in crouches for hours.

Maybe some of these chickenhawks should get their yellow out and really join the fighters.

Posted by: williamwertman | May 7, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps if we didn't torture them we'd have some admissible evidence that could put them behind bars for a very long time.

Posted by: JRM2 | May 7, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Is it shameless, or just really, really stupid?

Posted by: nodebris | May 7, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"Very funny and well-written post about an even funnier video. Why won't the GOP tell us about Obama's plans to arm the terrorists once they're let loose in the suburbs? Perhaps, because Republicans are in the pocket of big bioweapon. Posted by: dpascover "

Remember, once those terrorists are out on the streets, the Republicans and the NRA will defend to your death the rights of any amateur gun dealer in the country to sell them any weapon or ammunition that they have the money to pay for at any gun and knife show in the country. They will also object to anyone having to keep records of any such ordnance that they might have sold to such terrorists.

Posted by: ceflynline | May 7, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

IT is spot on and brilliant. Truth hurts doesn't it? Well it pains us daily to watch Mr. Obama put the security of this nation second to his agenda. If you think for one moment we will not fight back with all we have, you are mistaken. If we learned one thing from the state media it is this,"Fight like a liberal" and so we shall.

Posted by: RWells2 | May 8, 2009 3:03 AM | Report abuse

Peggy Noonan would say, "Sometimes we just have to keep on walking." That is a direct quote from her on investigating the Bush administration for war crimes. Gitmo is just one example. ......


http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/05/08/just-keep-on-walking/

Posted by: glclark4750 | May 8, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

While fear mongering can be effective, this particular attempt is just plain dumb. If those Gitmo guys are genuinely dangerous, I would much have them here in our secure facilities than repatriated to the battlefield, as Bush-Cheney did - with predictable results.

Posted by: ched | May 8, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Gee why should we be afraid of these guys? It's not like their going to hijack commercial airliners and fly them into our buildings and kill a bunch of Americans. That is just a figment of Karl Rove's imagination...Get your head out of your behind Stromberg.

Posted by: prairiedog | May 8, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

"Last week, the House GOP released a web video that flashed images of President Obama BOWING TO the King of Saudi Arabia...."

Posted by: Ynot1 | May 7, 2009 10:36 AM
++++++++++++
Would you prefer that he exchanged a sloppy kiss with him?
I saw the GITMO closing video, complete with scary Omenlike devil chant music playing loudly throughout the whole thing. That music would make people eating ice cream in the park on a Sunday afternoon look scary. Today's GOP assume that Americans and stupid and gulible and go from there.

Posted by: creatia52 | May 8, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

This sort of activity from the Republican party does not surprise me at all.

Posted by: smckaho420 | May 8, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I suspect the GOP wants Culture War Amageddon.

They want most voters (emphasis on voters) to polarize into two voter-camps, THEM (radical, progressive, socialist, communist, tax and spend, leave America vulnerable, gay-loving, abortion murderous, PC LIBERALS) vs US (conservative, traditional, marriage-oriented, strong defense kick anyone and everyobody's ass who messes with us, no gays in the military or marrying, bible-loving-god-fearing, no taxes/low-taxes, free-market capitalism RC Republicans).

So I guess us PC (politically correct) Democrats/Independents will have to continue co-existing with those Rabid Crazy Republicans/Conservatives:)

Posted by: GroupThink | May 8, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

The bigger picture is this: now that they have lost the election, only the staunch,questionable, right wing zealots who have really been running things for the Republican party are left in the Senate and House in D.C. Now that guys like Sessions are in the limelight, we will get to take a good look at who they are and who "they" associate with; i.e. what "clans" they belong to, and what their "purity" plan for real America is. For decades, these same men have been behind the scenes. They can't hide behind the moderate Republicans anymore. These are the true Republicans. When you have this many Senators who will not stand up against the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Rielly, Beck and others and the racist hate speech they spread day after day, then I have to believe that they condone it because it furthers both their agenda and popularity with the base. Otherwise they would take their oath seriously and protect all people in the United States, white, black, hispanic, Asian, etc. They are United States Senators. Not just State Senators. Boehner himself just ran one of these fear driven ads that should never have had his voice on it. A U.S. Senator inciting fear in the U.S. during a critical economic crisis is just plain dumb. These old-school,fear mongoring Republicans need to retire. This "come to daddy" philosophy from all these dirty old men is past its time. The U.S. needs a moral cleansing.

Posted by: mawheelz | May 8, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I think the Repubs fear the growing consensus of the public that we have so little to show for the very expensive decisions made by the Bush Adm.

Growing Salafist Islamic movements in Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan, clampdowns in Egypt, the Hamas election in Gaza, continuing terror attacks in all of the above and in the P.I. .. Turkey's concessions to their own more fundamental Islamic parties, Lebanon caught in the cross-hairs and being pulled by both the Sauds and Iran.. the growing popularity of Hizbollah and Hamas once funded by the Sauds and mostly now by Iran

It is so much easier to keep us looking at the 'muscle' and telling us to be very very afraid rather than go after the sponsors of Islamic terror.

The Republicans are defending 8 years of American foreign policy in which our country is like the child with a 'Bozo Bop Bag' .. we keep hitting them and they keep bouncing back.

Posted by: Gracefulboomer | May 8, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Well, exactly where ARE they going to put them? Maybe each of the Democrat libs who have bemoaned the cruel treatment of gitmo prisoners and wanted to send a message to the world about how caring and humane the US is will put their money where their mouth is and offer to "adopt a jihadist." Let Ahkmed sleep on your sofa for a month once he is released from the cruel American military. After all, he is just misunderstood and alienated because of that warmonger Bush, right? A little fireside talk over tea will bring him to his senses and he will renounce his evil ways forever. Thank you Obama!!! Making the world a little safer for our enemies each and every day!

Posted by: CarlosHawes | May 8, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Truman said, "The Buck Stops Here." He took responsibility. Obama's motto: "Buck, what buck?" I didn't know anything about any buck. But I sure got outraged when I found out about it!"

Posted by: CarlosHawes | May 8, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

I don't recall hearing President Obama saying that he didn't have any idea what to do with these people and he was just going to let them loose in the country. Why would you even think that? My understanding is that they are coming up with a plan of what to do with them. Many of these comments reflect just the point of view that the ads are trying to generate. I guess I had thought that those kind of tactics weren't working so well any more. Maybe I was wrong.

Posted by: ilima1 | May 8, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

He should have the plan complete BEFORE he announces he is going to close gitmo. But then again, the Democrat party "thinks" with their emotions not their minds. Just like they decided that they needed to pass a stimulus bill for almost $1,000,000,000 without really have a plan on what it would be spent on exactly. "Well we've got to do SOMETHING!"

Posted by: CarlosHawes | May 8, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he's going to put them in the missing mystery seven states of the 57 that he campaigned in.

Posted by: CarlosHawes | May 8, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Mr. CarlosHawes:

Are you really that stupid? Do you honestly think the President of the United States (Obama) is going to release any detainee into the general public vs elsewhere, be it a super-max prison or another country, assuming they are even remotely guilty or associated with any terrorist group? Or are you just harping on some estoric believe YOU could do a better job if put in his shoes. Most if not all politicians make platform promises, some of which they can do and some they cannot, and before they actually have their administration figure out the complex details. Did you critique the Bush Administration for not planning the complex details of the hyped-up War on Terror, which created the Gitmo Problem? Second-guessing politicians, playing the Catch-22 card with our leaders, and arguing the You Should Have But Didn't role is what we citizens love to do. But we should be humble in our often and mostly uninformed critiques about the complex job of leading and managing an often contentions nation like ours, where thousands of stakeholders all want the nation to function in their god-like imagine. Even I cut the Bush Administration some slack in taking us into a hyped-war and not knowing exactly how to get us out of it. This doesn't mean we shouldn't critique the Obama Administration or even Dems. It simply means we should deluding ourselves our complex nation and policies are 100% thought-out in their proposal, development, and implementation. As I said in a prior post, the job of being a politician has its power-perks. But it also can be a thank-less job given the many competing self-interests so many citizens want "instantly" met:) I would suggest Americans have more to fear from our own existing millions of imprisoned and yet to be caught criminals than a handful of maximum-security alleged terrorists. So your silly notion (rhetoric) that Gitmo detainees are going to be joining you, I, or others at the local Burger King or Movies is absurd:) But should you be that "gullible" or "paranoid" or "insecure" than perhaps you should renounce your American Citizenship and relocate to one a more safer-terrorist nations, one you feel treats suspected or actual terrorist in the inhumane/torture/imprisoned ways you feel the Obama Administration and American citizens are not -- perhaps Cuba, the Sudan, Russia, China, just pick a nation you feel is doing a better role-model job.

Posted by: GroupThink | May 9, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

It's interesting how the same politicians who claim to be "real Americans" and who are willing to send our sons and daughters to a dubious "war on terror" in Iraq would not be willing to sacrifice their peace of mind, even a tiny little bit, to protect and honor our constitution and to keep America truly safe. This is the worst and most cowardly kind of NIMBYism.


Posted by: pricetheo | May 9, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

The GOP has been all in favor of clean, cheap, patriotic wars to rally around. They've always ignored the advice of Dwight Eisenhower who admonished, "War will surprise you."

Under their eight year rule, the Taliban proved more determined, the Iraqis more independent, the North Koreans more advanced, the Iranians more intransigent, Hamas and Hezbolah more popular than the GOP could or wanted to imagine imagine.

Now these self-proclaimed patriots rail against taking care of the men we took to be enemies, took charge of, sometimes tortured and held without habeas corpus. Too dangerous to be around they claim!

Apparently these Republicans thought war could be fought from a distance, without pain, in an antiseptic manner that wouldn't even get us a bit dirty, (Except for the stop-lossed armed forces, guard, reserve, and hired guns from Haliburton.)

Now we've all found out the truth: War will surprise you.

Now the GOP says it's not their responsibility.

Posted by: kcbob | May 9, 2009 7:35 AM | Report abuse

The republicans are losing ground because after 8 years people are growing more and more tired of living their lives in fear. The voters are fatigued.

Posted by: Frazil | May 9, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

GOP and it's supporters don't have conscious! How could they declare and support unwanted war while the main culprit still loose in afganistan? If it were done my Dems, they would have been demonized by with negative ads! GOP just thinks like thugs and taliban.

Posted by: Observer2 | May 9, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

The tin hat wing nuts are just irrelevant.

Posted by: wege1 | May 9, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

what's the issue? that's simply taking a few pages from the democrat playbook!

Posted by: ddetnwilliam | May 9, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Dear Columnist?
The Politics of Fear come primarily from the likes of yourself. You should do some serious research and less spewing, as the State of Michigan has much more business sense than that shown by the automotive industry.

We have recreation, tourism, and huge prisons! A potential plan is currently in the works to offer one of our maximum security prisons to house those currently at Gitmo - one in the Upper Peninsula where no prisoner could survive a day in our winter weather without proper gear - or - in the summer where the horse flies are larger than your brain and as mean as people like perezhilton, or whatever name that kook has stolen and abused.

Think about it, sir, and invest in some common sense. Prisons are big business and we need the jobs desperately.
Snoocks2

Posted by: snoocks2 | May 9, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Unless the Obumbler intends to add another law broken to his already long list I suggest he obey the laws that prohibit the likes of most Gitmo prisoners from being even admitted to the United States.

Posted by: DarkMatter | May 9, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Is Obama - DUAL NATURE - a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hide, as revealed in The new DSM Psychopathology? The "White Obama" versus "The Black Obama"?

President Truman - a democrat - who dropped two Atom Bombs on Japan, is a moral lead by Liberal standards... In contrast, George W. Bush - a republican - who approved "Water-bording" of three Al Quada terrorists after 9/11 - is a War Criminal ? Is that it, America ?

French president called Obama - who bowed before Saudi Sultan - week and meek; Fidel Castro calls him Superficial, Arabs call him insane, and Israel calls him "untrustworthy"...
Evidently, the president who swore he would change the way the world looks at America is not a fan of the British, or Israel.. although he pretends to be.
Here's what Obama did not write in his "Audacity of Love"...
According to CFP (Canadian Free Press) - Obama’s paternal grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama worked as a cook for a British army officer when he became involved with the Kenyan independence movement. Grandpa Obama was arrested in 1949 as a sympathizer for the Kikuyu Central Association, the organization that ultimately spawned the Mau Mau for slaughtering White People... There is no question that the Kenyan penal system of that era was a violent place; mere imprisonment was not considered sufficiently punitive; torture was ubiquitous. Grandpa Hussein’s wife tells of horrific torture of her husband at the hands of the Brits. Some of her recollections are questionable however: one scene of hell on earth she describes is actually a pretty good description of the process of delousing.

There is also no question that if Hussein was arrested for subversive activities, he was up to something more than just being a good community organizer. He certainly would have been subject to some enhanced interrogation.

The left wants to paint the Mau Mau as yet another misunderstood group of oppressed victims. The truth is, the Mau Maus were vicious guerrilla fighters. Contrary to popular folklore, the Mau Mau slaughtered far more Kikuyu citizens than the whites they were supposedly rebelling against.

Mau Mau membership required taking an oath which was not exactly frat boy material. The colonial secretary, Oliver Lyttleton wrote:

“The Mau Mau oath is the most bestial, filthy and nauseating incantation which perverted minds can ever have brewed. I have never felt the forces of evil to be so near and as strong as in Mau Mau.

The question is: What gives Barack Obama, the moral Authority to "Dismantle the United States of America ? Is it Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde ?

Posted by: hasinc67 | May 9, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh..what to do? what to do? Shutting down GITMO has turned out to be a "ready, fire, aim" moment for Obama and his administration. Neither the Dems or Repubs have a workable solution, thus all the rumor and disinformation swirling about. Makes for good copy and sound bites. I can just vision Holder in a private converstation with Obama, it goes something like this.. Well, here's a another nice mess you've gotten me into!

Posted by: john19501 | May 10, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

What is scary to me - is that five months after the grand stand anouncement that he is closing Gitmo - they have no plan to deal with the prisoners. This is becomming a pattern with Obama, say what ever he thinks the left wants to hear him
say at the time - then deal with it later.
That's not governing, it's campaigning. It seems like they don't think things thru before they announce a new policy.

Posted by: mckphx | May 11, 2009 4:31 AM | Report abuse

What's to fear? The guilty of these guys will be locked up, not running loose on the streets. The Blind Sheikh, Omar Abdel-Rahman, lives 25 miles from me (in Butner, NC) and so does Carmine Persico (of the Colombo family). I understand that John Gotti made an appearance there, too. I'm not shaking in my boots.

Posted by: Agki1 | May 11, 2009 6:12 AM | Report abuse

(boot camp uses stress positions and sleep deprivation; special forces are trained with all three techniques) truly constitute torture?

Two points, you don't get packed in a tiny box or hung by your wrists in boot camp, that's just foolish. As for the sleep deprivation thing, you get to sleep every night, just not as long as you'd like.
You can also quit any time you want, the SERE canard is simply that, a canard. You know going in it will last 24 to 36 hours, they wont kill you and in fact at any time you can raise your hand an end it.
Yes, what we did was torture by any objective standard. We've imprisoned people for doing less, executed them for more.

Posted by: dijetlo | May 11, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

In the eyes of the electorate the Republican Party sinks lower and lower each day.

The party is without a titular head. Consequently Cheney, Limbaugh and Palin are able to portray themselves as "leaders" of the Party and the mediais more than happy to accomadate them.

If the Party continues down this road, it will be a road to extinctiion. Hopefully more moderate leaders will emerge but it is doubtful that they will.

Posted by: WESHS49 | May 11, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse


What scares me the most is Dick Cheney. He keeps saying with his crooked mouth that he and Bush kept us "safe" from another attack.

But we were never attacked until THEY came into office. There are some out there who are saying that we were attacked on Bush/Cheney's watch because they (Bush and Cheney) were complicit, and it was Bush and Cheney's screw ups that got us attacked in the first place.

So, Cheney means they supposedly "kept us safe" by not falling asleep at the wheel again I presume.

As for Cheney's inference that President Obama isn't keeping us safe enough, I ask: It would not be, and should not be possible for Cheney to know, being that he no longer has access to that type of information. Cheney no longer has access to ANY information, on this day, upon which Cheney could make such a unilaterial statement, or any such informed statement, unless of course, Cheney is the terrorist.

As for President Obama having dinner with or associating with the King of Saudi Arabia, so what! Is Bush and Cheney jealous?

Bush's daddy has dinner with the Saudis all the time and has had a business relationship with that family spanning over decades, including Osama Bin Laden's family. Bush Jr. grew up with Osama Bin Laden and, instead of holding 100 of Osama Bin Laden's family members in jail until Osama Bin Laden turned himself in or was captured, after 9/11 happened it was Bush who flew all 100 members of Bin Ladens family to safety, while all of us Americans were grounded.

I thought the evil politicians had left town, and I hope they're left off of television too. They're only poisoning the public (they must REALLY like doing that).


Posted by: lindalovejones | May 11, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

It's not nice, it's not politically realistic, but it's delicious to think about.

The administration should reward the Republican Party of No by relocating the Guantanamo prisoners to all the states that voted solidly against Obama (not the swing states). Heck, they aren't going to vote for him next time, so no loss there. And it call's the fear-mongerers bluff. They might even be a little more careful about staging such malicious ads in the future.

Posted by: leschatdeux | May 11, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Yup.. its just fear-mongering by those GOPers !! Whats to fear ?

Look Obama asked his European friends to help out and they responded big-time ! Europe took one prisoner ! Austria, I think.

Bush has already released most of the Gitmo 800 now 300 ? so whats to fear ?

Only 70 or so of the released have returned to terror.. a pretty reasonable rate of recidivism... by liberal standards. so whats to fear ?

Obama's hometown Chicago has already successfully reintegrated terrorists (friends of Obama: Ayers and wife) I think they can be role models.

Yup.. release them in Chicago... give them visas, student grants, and heck maybe they'll be University academics in a decade ! Drinking beer on weekends at the Obamas house : )

Posted by: pvilso24 | May 11, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"Shameless new attack"??

They've got a lot of catching up to do.

After all, Democrats shamelessly and rabidly attacked President Bush for almost eight years.

But they had the Democrat/liberal media on their side then and the Democrat/liberal media comprises about 90% of American media.

The poor Republicans have to go it virtually alone.

Brave band of opposition patriots is what they are. It's the humans vs the Obamatons.

In science fiction movies, the humans always win. Let's hope it's that way in real life too.

Posted by: battleground51 | May 11, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

You just have to love all the sons of Rush at times like this. It was Dubya' who referred to Truman constantly, but now, he's the Moral leader of Democrats, Wingnuts quoting the French President, and the Willie Horton ad is now suddenly out of the DNC playbook! Of course It the Bush/Cheney machine that invented "free speech zones", retaliated against journalists and fired federal prosecutors who didn't play ball but... now it's Obama who doesn't tolerate criticism.
Luckily, most voters don't live in the parallel universe of "I'm rubber, you're glue" so I'm looking forward to 2016 when the Republican party starts referring to Alabama and Mississippi as Battle States and Georgia as their firewall.

Posted by: klcscott | May 11, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Do you as an industry ever wonder why you are going broke? The majority of America understands and accepts that you are biased. I don't buy any US paper or watch ANY non cable channels for show. I will get the free versions though. I don't understand where your ethics went but American media is looking like the old Soviet media.

Posted by: l_ervin | May 11, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Wait a moment . . .
Who the flying f*** gives a rats arse about the Gitmo clowns?

Did Stromberg write this OpEd piece to take a pot shot about 'fear mongering'?

Almost every comment thread today on most every one of the WashPost OpEd has posters that continue to promote a set of taglines to diminish the conservatives -- and to promote the 'change' to socialism.

Interesting . . . over the weekend, a black female comedian named Wanda Sikes has her fun with Rush Limbaugh and others at the correspondance dinner for the President -- the same comedian that frequently talks like a nigg*r about nigg*rs -- for our first Black President.

We need to protect my right to own guns to control the 'threat' of a bunch of liberals h*ll bent on retribution -- for what?

Posted by: linuxman1 | May 11, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

I didn't watch the video and I'm sure I wouldn't care for it, so in that sense I probably agree with Stromberg. But, dude, please tell me you were kidding when you expressed surprise about the reference to Kansas. Ever heard of Leavenworth?

I'll respect your opinions more when you demonstrate an awareness of basic facts.

Posted by: Compared2What | May 11, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Party has become the new National Inquirer with Dick Cheney and Rush Limbaugh chief correspondents.

Posted by: repudar711 | May 11, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

I can't imagine being a member of a political party where Dick Cheney is the chief spokesman.

Posted by: repudar711 | May 11, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

"Maybe I’m missing something"

That pretty well raps up your comments as well as most Democrats who would elect an empty suit, steal power from the people and put it in the corrupt hands of politicians, spend us into oblivion and pass that on to our children as well as trash our security and close Gitmo BEFORE he has a clue.
You and the Democrats and voters are missing something called wisdom.

Posted by: ekim53 | May 11, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

They make new versions of the Triumph of the Will every now and then. Mostly on Fox News. I think that full disclosure requires the "Republican" Party be renamed the American Fascist Party. That is how they behave. So let it be written. So let it be done.

Posted by: DaktariImpossible
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I have come to think of the democrats as Social Fascists.
So it's International Social Fascists(D) versus the American Fascist Party(R).
But both parties can share and at least agree on neoliberal economic theory.

Posted by: WilliamBlake | May 12, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

The GOP are masters of fear - and fear does matter. ............


http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/05/12/why-fear-matters/

Posted by: glclark4750 | May 12, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

It's those kind of tactics that made me travel outside of my state to campaign for Obama in the fall. I might do it again, as I'm sure the GOP will keep up these dishonest attacks.

Posted by: Smooth_Jazz | May 12, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"Did Stromberg write this OpEd piece to take a pot shot about 'fear mongering'?

Almost every comment thread today on most every one of the WashPost OpEd has posters that continue to promote a set of taglines to diminish the conservatives -- and to promote the 'change' to socialism."

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So you're saying that the video is not fear-mongering? You actually believe that terrorists will be let loose in your neighborhood? If you do, then your intelligence is no greater than Limbaugh's.

Posted by: Smooth_Jazz | May 12, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow....the complaints on a ad that is pretty mild stuff compared to what Moveon.org produced against President Bush. I guess it is easier to dish it out than to take it.

Posted by: Drumfire | May 12, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Good; let them go back to their roots of smear and fear. It worked in 2004 and look what happened. All these unemployed doofuses can't afford cars do they won't be able to get to the polling stations to vote against their interests in 2010.

Independents and fence riding Dems have seen this one trick pony so many times that it doesn't even catch their eye anymore and when I see these type of ads it just pisses me off. Go back to basics repubs, let Rush be your mouthpiece, obstruct progress at every turn, and remind us how you're back to basics supply side supporters again. Become a regional party and eventually dissolve. You sicken me.

Posted by: theobserver4 | May 12, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

"Wow....the complaints on a ad that is pretty mild stuff compared to what Moveon.org produced against President Bush. I guess it is easier to dish it out than to take it.

Posted by: Drumfire"

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Which is perfectly demonstrated by your outrage at the Moveon ad that is apparently seared into your memory.

Posted by: Smooth_Jazz | May 12, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Can't we just secretly render ALL these guys to Libya and then have them mysteriously turn up dead in their cells from "apparent suicide"?

It worked great last week with that "high-value" al-Libi guy, who might've said some very inconvenient things about state-sanctioned torture and manufactured Iraq/9-11 intel, now that those annoying Human Rights Watch gadflies had finally ferreted out where we stowed him...

Posted by: youarestillidiots | May 12, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I have seen some Republican feigning outrage that Gitmo prisoners involved with the WTC attacks could be held in New York City.

In my mind that is exactly where they should be held and tried. Last I checked murder or aiding and abetting murder were illegal in NYC. Don't the families have a right to attend the trials of those accused of the crime?

Republicans are acting more like defense attorneys demanding a change of venue.

Posted by: timothy2me | May 13, 2009 7:54 AM | Report abuse

What was shameless was the suggestion that some of the Guantanamo detainees would be released in the United States. Liberals have historically assumed that criminals and terrorists are essentially good people gone bad. The ads in question do not assume that liberal Democrats act rationally in the best interests of the United States. The ad merely reminds people of that sad fact. Nothing shameless in educating the people.

Posted by: mhr614 | May 13, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Well, this VA citizen thinks it's just fine to bring those prisoners to my state. Let them increase the prison population, which will also increase the need for security jobs in my state. And, what better security than a bunch of prisoners watching the terrorist imports? Do any of us REALLY think these guys stand much of a chance in a maximum security facility? Even the child molesters and rapists would pick on them, and that is saying something.

If the conservative geniuses who made up the video really think that the guys who are in prison are the ones firing the RPGs and blowing themselves up (in other countries), then so be it. Small minds are easily persuaded to fright. Nothing will change that.

Posted by: paquers | May 13, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Quite amusing video, especially the terrifying visage of Kahlid Sheik Mohammed with the stained wife-beater and the bed head.

I guess it remains to be seen if Americans are as much spineless pants-wetters as the GOP seems to be banking on.

Posted by: ibc0 | May 13, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

FlyDiesel says
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The real point is lost, as the Post again assumes the liberal position without argument, while demonizing the opposition. Should foreign terrorists be granted US citizen rights? And do 'stress positions', 'sleep deprivation', and 'waterboarding', all of which are used in training our own forces (boot camp uses stress positions and sleep deprivation; special forces are trained with all three techniques) truly constitute torture?
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The United States Government has prosecuted and won cases of foreign troops using these techniques against Americans. The Geneva convention is pretty clear in establishing that Waterboarding is in fact clearly torture. By our own past definitions of what a war criminal is, Cheney, and Bush, along with numerous other high level officials in the Bush administration qualify in spades.

Of course, because they are Americans, they are different from Charles Taylor, the current administration of Sudan, etc. And of course they are 'different' from the Japanese soldiers convicted of these same crimes by the Unite States. This is a classic example of do as I say, not as I do by the US. Hypocrisy disables and disqualifies us for any leadership role or moral standing in the world.

Of course, most Republican apologists simply say that world opinion doesn't matter. In doing so they are also saying that US standing in the world, US leadership, and the US's ability to influence world events don't matter. That's the real price we pay for torture.

Posted by: reussere | May 13, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

It's laughable for Republicans to imply that a country which imprisons a larger percentage of its population than any other country (including China) somehow suddenly lacks the ability to imprison a handful of foreigners who've been locked up and tortured for almost a decade.

Imprisoning people is what America does best. I don't think it'll matter whether they're foreign Muslims or not in our ability to slam the door shut.

Posted by: windrider2 | May 17, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

ceflynline is very out of line, the NRA has never fought for the right for any criminals to buy guns and if you think they would then you don't know a damn thing about them.
The NRA might fight for your right to own a gun if you could prove that you are not the mental case your post would indicate.

Posted by: Gary25 | May 17, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

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