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Fox should stop whining

By Jo-Ann Armao

I wish I had a nickel for every time a public official refused to talk to me or one of the reporters I supervised in my more than 30 years of journalism. Or a penny for every time someone criticized my reporting. If they had, I’d be set for life. And that’s why I’m having a hard time understanding all this fuss about the Obama administration not wanting to play ball with Fox News.

Much of the Sunday talk circuit was devoted to this fight. The president’s inner circle has claimed the network is so biased that it’s not a real gatherer of news. Fox has fired back about the unseemliness of the administration declaring war on a news organization. One would think there weren’t issues of real import that demand the nation’s attention.

Don’t get me wrong: administration officials are stupid to pick such a silly fight. The only thing they accomplish is to make themselves appear small and petty while giving a boost to Fox’s ratings. Still, I am amused that Fox protests so much. There’s nothing new about newsmakers picking and choosing who they best think will carry their message. Or in snubbing those who have irritated them. Indeed, didn't that -- getting under the skin of officialdom -- used to be a point of pride for news organizations?

The last time I checked the First Amendment, there was nothing in it compelling officials to talk to certain journalists. Certainly, there are legal requirements about what information should be made public, but no one -- not the man on the street, your local council member or even the president of the United States -- is obligated to cooperate with reporters they think are unfair or who, for whatever reason, they dislike. And, goodness knows, there are reasons to dislike Fox, just as there are reasons to dislike MSNBC. And, yes, I suspect that some of you reading this will say there are reasons to dislike the organization I write for. But unlike Fox, you won't hear me whining about it.

By Jo-Ann Armao  | October 19, 2009; 1:14 PM ET
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The real whining is coming from Little Lord Fauntleroy in the Oval who seems to always pee his pants over criticism of his policies. It's time to stand up and be a president and not a cheerleader!

Posted by: nmg3rln | October 19, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I think everyone knows who the idiots look like in this fight. And it's not anyone at Fox.

When Helen Thomas, the New York Times and even The Nation (of all places) says the White House is the petty one, that's something I like to call "bipartisan agreement."

Grow up White House. This isn't the kiddie pool and it's not t-ball where everyone who plays should get a trophy. And even though you'd like it to be, it's also not Chicago politics where you can intimidate people into toeing your line.

Face criticism like adults or get out.

Posted by: etpietro | October 19, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

and the msm got called whiners because across Iraq and other military bases only FOX news was on while Bush and Rumsfeld were supposedly running things. FOX keeps Beck who called the duly elected President a racist, yet consrvative radio conspired to ostarsize the Dixie Chicks to the point where there were cd burnings and the traditionally married with kids women were called traitors, sl&ts, wh#res, and received death threats. I still think there should have been an investigation into radio stations conspiring to NOT play their music, to blackball them, etc...FOX wants to play by their own set of rules, so they should get to play by themselves, and be ignored by mainstream media, except to point out the fact-free obvious stories.

Posted by: katem1 | October 19, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

FOX should stop whinning? I repeat FOX SHOULD STOP WHINNING? On what planet have you been living on these last few weeks?

Posted by: stepup | October 19, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

no..government officials are not compelled by law to cooperate with reporters...but the Constitution certainly does NOT authorize the President to hire a CZAR to monitor news organizations that expose embarassing facts about him or anyone in his administration...I seriously doubt the rest of the "news organizations" would have sat quietly by if the Bush administration insulted them in such a manner. It isn't FOX News that's had to apologize for reporting untruths about a certain conservative radio host in leu of possible lawsuits...

Posted by: faktcheker | October 19, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I have only seen one short segment of Fox news, so I can't comment on their agenda. But it seems that they are winning this fight with the Obama administration. The ratings at Fox news are soaring while the President's numbers have slid. White House aids too often sound like the hypocritical liberals whom the right caricatures: "I'm a free speech advocate as long as you agree with me." Obama needs to intervene with his aids and be like the umpire who admonishes a pitcher who criticizes his strike zone: "Shut up, and play ball!"

Posted by: Peter28 | October 19, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

@stepup,

I live in a world where they spell the word "whining" with only one "n", and conservative posters to political blogs tend to be conspicuously semi-literate. What world do you live in?

Posted by: Plix | October 19, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

The problem is people *actually believe* FOX NEWS is a true news channel. It is not. It's an entertainment channel competing against all the reality shows on broadcast TV. I sometimes watch just to get a chuckle out of the Beck, Hannity, etc., comedy hours!

Posted by: Rich393 | October 19, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't blame the current administration for avoiding Faux News. Faux News was a huge mouthpiece for the Bush administration and their lies about Iraq, WMDs, etc. Faux News is neither fair nor impartial -- it's privately owned and scripted.

Posted by: TwoEvils | October 19, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

An embarrassing post that displays a staggering dishonesty or ignorance about the dynamics at play here.

Last time I checked, FOX didn't send two top staffers onto Sunday shows to whine that the White House is illegitimate and should be ignored.

The people in charge of the country are taking on a news organization and you're suggesting the news organization shouldn't "whine" about it?

I would imagine, Ms. Armao, that if you're work was being publicly discredited by the most powerful people in the country that you would feel pretty good about it, yes? And just kind of stay silent about it.

Here's the real question: If you're concerned about FOX's whining, I would imagine you are also aware of the hilarious irony of your whining about FOX's whining.

One of the most inane blog posts I have ever read. Pathetic.

Posted by: Truth6 | October 19, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

FOX is not a news org and the Obama admin is right to call them out on the fact that they are a propaganda arm of the republican party. About time somebody did.

Posted by: tadtef | October 19, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

The term "Fox News" belongs in quotes as FAUX NEWS is no more a news organization than is the The Cartoon Network.

The Obama Administration is correct in calling out and dealing with FAUX NEWS as exactly what they are - the proganda arm of the right wing fringe of the Republican party.

It's about time.

Posted by: ceefer66 | October 19, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

The same constitution grant foxnew the right to report the news as they see it. This is a fight between Obama and the constitution, not foxnews....

Posted by: billisnice | October 19, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

"The president’s inner circle has claimed the network is so biased that it’s not a real gatherer of news. Fox has fired back about the unseemliness of the administration declaring war on a news organization."

To Fox News:

But ya are, Blanche, ya are a biased propaganda machine not deserving of any serious American's attention!

Posted by: jamshark70 | October 19, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

The absurdity of this column is that the outrage isn't over the President slighting one major news station over all others. It is the direct lies that the administration has stated outright, both verbally and in writing, about news coverage, and that they've encouraged other news media to view Fox News as "not news". They've even taken it further and called Fox News "the enemy" and said they will "engage in battle". This is firstly unpresidential and secondly a massive misdirection of such firm wording when the citizens of the US wish they would "engage in battle" with true enemies of freedom.

Posted by: tomteboda | October 19, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

TO: nmg3rln who wrote:
“The real whining is coming from Little Lord Fauntleroy in the Oval who seems to always pee his pants over criticism of his policies. It's time to stand up and be a president and not a cheerleader!”
___________________

Ha! If you want to see a REAL pee pants wimp, look over at your former supreme leader who is hiding behind everything and everybody, rather than stand up to his responsibilities, who is of course George W. Bush.

Rather than that little irresponsible baby coming out and standing up for every law he used to run this country into the ground, he’s hiding behind his momma’s skirt watching President Obama get blamed for all HIS mistakes, including all the spending Bush did.

Talk about a pansy, you got one BIG one on your team.


Posted by: lindalovejones | October 19, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse


I am still waiting for FOX to show us those weapons of mass destruction they said were hidden in Iraq.

Obama can't publicly say he won't work with Republicans, but he can tell FOX to go to hell.

I applaud that.

Rupert Murdoch, a foreigner, makes a ton of money in this generous country and the best he can do is start a cable network that does nothing but fratboy shenanigans and tom foolery? We are a mighty nation indeed to be able to suffer his idiocy.

Don't forget who first called Bush a "winner" in Florida in 2000 and in Ohio in 2004.

It was FOX.


Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | October 19, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I watch Fox and have yet to hear whining. A bit of laughing perhaps...all the way to the bank:) I don't hold Obama responsible for the nickel-and-dime behavior of his children, but he's the boss so he gets the credit. I find it ironic and more than a little humorous that the white house minions are showing all the signs of a group caught in a panic. Not to worry children...It's going to get worse.

Posted by: fike01 | October 19, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"And, goodness knows, there are reasons to dislike Fox, just as there are reasons to dislike MSNBC."

The only thing not to like about MSNBC is its weekend programming: endless hours spent roaming the insides of prisons, all to no point.

Their "Trap a Pedophile" shows were also useless, stupid and uninteresting.

Posted by: norriehoyt | October 19, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I agree, Fox is whining away and of course the Press wont call it that since they dont know when it will be their turn to whine. If Fox had so many viewers and the this back and forth were increasing their viewership, maybe they could whine away some more, and even withdraw their White House reporter, and take the fight to the next level.

There is little doubt that Fox is an opinion station, so why not accept the moniker and operate (they are doing so profitably and I dont begrudge that) as such.

For my money there is a great niche available for a new station that is idealogue free (not CNN) and which can boldly call a truth a truth and a lie a lie instead of calling reporters (no experts themselves) and talk show hosts to opine on what truth and lies. The caliber of reporting is so bad on Cable TV (not so I find in Network News or on Lehrer) that it is not worth tuning into. Maybe Shep Smith is an exception.

Posted by: rocky | October 19, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

It's funny, Fox News spent 8 years fawning over a President his "call them like he saw'em" folksy style.

Now that another president is doing just that towards them they get full of self righteous rage.

Whining seems pretty accurate to me.

Posted by: rpixley220 | October 19, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

What makes it news is how the White House campaigned on transparency and openness. It terms of practice, their enemies list strategy towards one news outlet makes them more "Nixonian" than "Jeffersonian".

Posted by: sarno | October 19, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Obama's war on Fox News. Any news network that disagrees with Obama should be shut down. Fox news commentators should be imprisoned for defaming Obama. Perhaps, an execution would stop these attacks on Obama.

Posted by: Dodgers1 | October 19, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

If Fox didn't whine, how would their
re tarded listeners (hello,nmg3rln!) know what to gnash their rotting teeth about?

Posted by: LABC | October 19, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I agree the Obama admin is the one looking stupid on this issue but to compare a single reporter getting flack personally from a politician to a whole administration ignoring a whole network seems idiotic. This issue is a big problem if you ask me, it is a hypocritical assault on the 1st amendment; the government is trying to shut out a news agency! If Bush had done that to CNN the liberals in America would have lost their minds!

Posted by: flonzy3 | October 19, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

FOX whined when the President didn't come on their Sunday morning talk show. Apparently they thought it was important that day to hear from the President.

Soon before that, however, the President gave a major speech before a joint session of Congress to lay out his priorities for health care reform.

On THAT night, however, they were the only network not to air it. They felt what the country needed to see that night was "Dancing with the Stars"!

Yeah, Cartoon Network sounds about right.

Posted by: DROSE1 | October 19, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

It is high time that this on going charade that dignifies Fox as a legitimate news agency instead of the highly partisan arm of the Republican Party that it truly is, be called off.

Giving respect to Fox as a real news outlet forces on the public phantom issues that pander to the right wing, and makes other news organizations seriously contemplate these wild partisan accusations and vendettas against everything and everyone liberal.

The news media has been jerked around by Fox wingnuts far too long. We need to demand that the news be as objective and respectful of facts as is humanly possible, instead of this wink and a nod routine and pandering to all the news people want to believe true or not.

Posted by: maddymappo | October 19, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

1. "[In his new book, Judicial Watch founder, the conservative Larry] Klayman reserves some of his harshest words for Fox News, expressing his increasing disappointment with the network, which "should really change its motto 'We report, you decide' to 'We brainwash, you decide.'"

He accuses Fox News and host Sean Hannity of not being straight with him by tricking his clients to coming on the air: "I came to perceive Hannity as a shallow and insincere Rush Limbaugh wannabe..."

Klayman takes particular aim at the "strange and petty tactics" of the network's chairman Roger Ailes. When he asked Ailes about his decision to hire Chris Cuomo, the current "Good Morning America" co-host, to do commentary, the Fox News executive replied: "If I'm going to put on some goddamned liberal, I might as well get the dumbest f*** I can find!"

Klayman claims that Fox owner Rupert Murdoch "tried to kill the publication of this book" because of his criticism of the network.

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/14/larry-klayman-conservativ_n_321080.html

2. Last night, NBC News and the Wall Street Journal released a poll showing that “all the misinformation out there” about health care reform proposals in Congress is taking root with many Americans. For instance, 45 percent believe the false claim that legislation includes “death panels” while 55 percent believe the false claim that coverage will be extended to illegal immigrants. MSNBC’s First Read notes that self-identified viewers of Fox News are disproportionately misinformed:

Here’s another way to look at the misinformation: In our poll, 72% of self-identified FOX News viewers believe the health-care plan will give coverage to illegal immigrants, 79% of them say it will lead to a government takeover, 69% think that it will use taxpayer dollars to pay for abortions, and 75% believe that it will allow the government to make decisions about when to stop providing care for the elderly."

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/19/fox-news-viewers-misinformed/

Posted by: WhatHeSaid | October 19, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Fox is a "news" organization in the same way that Pravda was a "news" organization in the Soviet Union, and Murdoch is a man who clearly wants to influence current events for the benefit of his financial empire. No surprise that the appeal of the channel is to the gullible who need to be spoon-fed their opinions.

Posted by: gposner | October 19, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Jo-Ann,

As you say... there is "all this fuss". As much as the rest of the media is covering this story, there just might be more to it than just Fox "whining."

Perhaps there is a real journalistic issue somewhere here. Maybe you should think some more before your next post and see if you can't uncover the reason behind all the "fuss".

Posted by: WhatsonSecond | October 19, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

The White House should revoke the press credentials of Fox News. They continually misrepresent the briefings and positions of the current administration. Fox viewers would not mind. It would finally put this matter to rest. I agree with what another article said earlier today that: Fox has become a foreign style media outlet and is no longer American in its approach to news. It reflects the European tabloid style journalism, becoming a 24 hour infomercial for only one politcal party and is therefore, un-American. Because of Murdoch, Fox mirrors the English and Australian news media, not the truly American, Fourth Estate honorable news media that informs our citizens in an unbiased manner. The press being controlled by one foreigner who hates the President of the United States and all Democrats? Is he a naturalized citizen? Is he against immigration? Interracial marriage?

Posted by: mawheelz | October 19, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

2 words: Faux News.

Posted by: KJR1 | October 19, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Lol...so you write an article decrying the fact that other media people are talking about something and then talk about it yourself.

And the wheels on the bus go round and round...

Posted by: qwerty6899 | October 19, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

So I guess the expectation here is that every news organization fall in lockstep with the administration--- as they did during the campaign, when the major networks and all the newspapers served primarily as cheerleaders for then-candidate Obama. One cable network doesn't jump on the bandwagon, and it's subject to scorn, ridicule, and abject hatred. Whatever happened to "speaking truth to power?"

Posted by: Regis09 | October 19, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Hey! Obama started it.

He just whines so smoothly that it's less noticeable.

Does he use a tele-prompter when he whines?

Posted by: battleground51 | October 19, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

This morning, I heard the ultra-conservative Elisabeth Hasselbeck on "The View" say that Obama was demonstrating McCarthyism by "banning" Fox News and telling Americans not to watch the network (would that he could...) Her comments reflect the level of ignorance demonstrated by Fox news fans.

I decided that Fox was not worthy of my time when I learned that Cheney demanded that the televisions in hotels he frequented be turned to Fox News upon his check-in.

Posted by: borntorun45 | October 19, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Calling the sewage plant that is FauxNews a news gathering organization is like setting up a restaurant in a men's room. You know that absolutely no one would go to eat in a men's room. Why would the administration wander into the slime filled sewer that is the organ (aka voice) of the neo-con, neo-nazi, neo-facist white supremacist Grand nO Party.

The party that we fired last year is so full of hate that its lemmings are executing the plan of the Nazi err FauxNews and hate AM radio. The Nazi Foxpublikon aka the Grand nO Party is out of ideas and it's dying a slow death. All your hate will not attract more diversity to your tent. You and your handlers can continue to spew all sorts of drivel fed to you by the Real Nazis, Rush Limpballs, Glen "Stir Crazy" Beck, Sean Manatee, and their underlings. You need to get some new bogeymen, because you never for a New York minute did not teabag your hero for the past 8 years and his puppet masters help sink us in the current hole. Your thuggish fear mongering no longer works. And let me remind you that most of us in Blue States pay for your welfare. Your side has been present, but absent with ideas at the critical debates that face working Americans. You can scream all you want, but we're not going to be intimidated. Look what intimidation did in the rest of the world. You never complained about how much was spent in Iraq, and you scream bloody murder when we request to have the previous war criminal regime vigorously investigated. I can see your patriotism on display with your flag pins and your flags flying over your home. What a sick and evil crew!

FAUXNEWS is not a news organization. The sooner this country accepts this as a fact, the better we will be. Supporting any company that subsidizes the Murdoch slime noise machine is un-American. We need to get him to show us his certificate of live birth.

Posted by: numbers28 | October 19, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

@ Plix, and the posters of these two INANE comments:

"I don't blame the current administration for avoiding Faux News. Faux News was a huge mouthpiece for the Bush administration and their lies about Iraq, WMDs, etc. Faux News is neither fair nor impartial -- it's privately owned and scripted."

Posted by: TwoEvils | October 19, 2009 2:09 PM |

"The term "Fox News" belongs in quotes as FAUX NEWS is no more a news organization than is the The Cartoon Network.

The Obama Administration is correct in calling out and dealing with FAUX NEWS as exactly what they are - the proganda arm of the right wing fringe of the Republican party.

It's about time."

Posted by: ceefer66 | October 19, 2009 2:39 PM |

First off, Plix- I love how what could have been a typo (whinning instead of whining) automatically makes someone...what did you call it, "semi-literate"? While I agree it is entirely possible that stepup does not know how to spell, I also believe that the odds are stacked against that. Typos happen, we all know it. I am offended by your assumption that conservative bloggers are what make these comment boards so unappealing to people with an ounce of intelligence. You and I, along with everyone else, know damned well that it is a combined effort of extreme left AND extreme right morons that do this. Being conservative does not make one stupid. Blindly following an idea or person does. Not finishing high school, overuse of drugs, getting pregnant in your teens, having a brood of 8 children when you can't even pay your rent for yourself, THAT makes you stupid. Oh, wait, that's generally the group that votes left.....sorry.

Now, on to the morons who decided calling Fox News "Faux News"....did you graduate at all? Read the word "faux" phonetically. (as in say it out loud.) it is not pronounced "fox", rather "FO" (rhymes with NO) yes, I understand it means fake, but still. Learn pronunciation you morons. It only works if they SOUND similar.

Actually, Plix, these are guys from your side of the fence, too. Guess that means you all are making the pool "semi-literate". Good luck raising the bar.


Posted by: lostcause227 | October 19, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

FoxNews is an oxymoron.

Posted by: HughBriss | October 19, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

tony-in Durham, NC - You say Rupert Murdoch is a foreigner making money here in America, well, what do you call George Soros who hates freedom & is all into the Democrat party with donations & sometimes I think he is the one calling shots.At least Mr. Murdoch is a fair & balanced guy & lets journalist on his show give both sides of the story. The commentators on Fox are all a variation of Independents. Conservatives, Republicans, & Democrats. So you do not know what you are talking about Mr. tony in Durham, NC. To think that is my home state & I still have so many family members still there & the Democrats to take hold of the state is just awful. We used to be Republicans in there & I grew up in North Carolina telling everybody I rather me an Elephant then a Donkey & now I understand why. I must have known I didn't want to grow up being an ass.

Posted by: egw7777 | October 19, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

"The last time I checked the First Amendment, there was nothing in it compelling officials to talk to certain journalists. Certainly, there are legal requirements about what information should be made public, but no one -- not the man on the street, your local council member or even the president of the United States -- is obligated to cooperate with reporters they think are unfair or who, for whatever reason, they dislike."

I see, so the executive branch is not obligated to regard the press as a formal part of our republic's system of checks and balances? The only problem I have with this assertion is that it seems to run contrary to the Post's own position regarding press notification. This position was certainly stated very forcefully in an indignant Post editorial that followed Dick Cheney's failure to immediately report his infamous hunting accident to the national press. Despite the fact that this accident was promtly reported to the local authorities, the lack of press notification was characterized by the Post as a very grave error at that time. So, assuming that your bosses haven't canned you yet for contradicting their own sacrosanct standards, I wonder when the Post's position on such matter changed? Did the change occur roughly nine-months ago?

Posted by: jbrenner1 | October 19, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

One of the requirements for watching Fox is that you be an idiot.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | October 19, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

The funny thing about all of this: "The only thing they accomplish is to make themselves appear small and petty WHILE GIVING A BOOST TO FOX'S RATINGS." This is great for Fox, and they are more than happy to keep this childish spat going for as long as they can. It'll make Fox more partisan, to keep up that perception, and the Admin will continue to alienate Fox viewers. So, basically, by not giving Fox access, they allow the misinformation to continue, which hurts their chances of passing anything - I'm not sure that's so smart.

Posted by: DoubledownDC | October 19, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse


No one in America can take FAUX News seriously. After all are they NOT the king of reality T.V.

Most reality T.V., shows are geared to create drama within the cast, or storylines. The more dysfunctional, uneducated the characters are, the more drama, the more ignorant, and the higher the ratings.

It is that half (the ignorant) of the populous that stays glued to the Fox News network. Now you know how George Bush was able to get elected into office, not once, but twice.

And now you also know why Sarah Palin was that close to the Whitehouse.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | October 19, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Fox News is the only media outlet whining?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Whining is what the media does best.

Why is Obama's administration on Sunday TV whining about Fox?

To single out Fox News shows what a low-class news organization TWP has become.

I hope Kaplan sales pickup otherwise TWP will be coming to taxpayers for a bailout....

Posted by: ravioliman6666 | October 19, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

As one who has suffered through many years of listening to Dan Rather and his ilk pushing their left-wing views over the networks, I'm delighted to have at least one news organization that sees things from a different perspective.

I may not agree with everything that comes out of Fox, but I know this: if it weren't for Fox we would never have heard about the ACORN scam or the Van Jones flap. The liberal media would never have covered it.

I also know that, as annoying as they can be, I hear things from Limbaugh, Hannity and Levin that would never have come to light from the liberal media. I particularly enjoy it when Limbaugh plays clips so that we can hear the liberals lying to us in their own words. There's no substitute for catching them in the act.

Finally, I didn't need Beck to tell me that Obama is a racist, but it's nice that somebody had the cojones to say it out loud.

Posted by: neilwied | October 19, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I think the author is confused.

Fox isn't whining, they are milking it.

Not only does it make the administration look petty, but it has to make other channels like CNN very concerned that they are annointed the "least likely to ask a question we don't want to answer" goto station for the administration.

I suspect, all journalist will eventually get behind Fox on this.

They have opinion retards, and if Obama want's to call them out do it, but you can't try to stereotype an entire organization over some op'ed columnist.

Posted by: HugitThrough | October 19, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Point in fact, madam, there is no reason for anyone to co-operate with the media.

Posted by: rmlwj1 | October 19, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

To Faux News: This is America--Love it or leave it.

I applaud the administration calling it as it is. If an organization is going to be so un-American as to reflexively criticize every single action of the administration without even thinking first, why should they bother with them? There is nothing Obama could do that would make these nitwitted haters of the U.S. happy.

Posted by: dougenglish | October 19, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Rich 393's post earlier had the most insightful about FOX: "It's an entertainment channel competing against all the reality shows on broadcast TV."

Other cable channels are trying to sell three hours of news in primetime. I guess they are trying to mimic the old network news programs, but the problem is that network news was only half an hour. The result is that almost no one is watching. So FOX's competitors aren't really "selling."

FOX is "selling" three hours in primetime. People are watching.

To do well in business, you have to:
(1)know your product,
(2) know your competition and
(3) know your customers.
FOX is beating the other cable networks at all three precisely because FOX knows its competition is the full range of viewer choices, not just the other news networks.

Of course, the best news shows are and have always been also entertaining. The two are not mutually exclusive. That's why the "60 Minutes" program had high ratings for decades.

So, who's the stupid network - the one trying to combine news and entertainment or the one trying to expand a half hour into three hours?

And who's the stupid viewer, the one getting both news and entertainment or the one suffering through three hours to get half an hour of content?

This battle between the White House and FOX is just another example of why FOX is killing the competition. It's entertainnig and, of course, it's a FOX exclusive.

All this makes me wonder if someone in the White House doesn't own stock in FOX's parent company. The White House seems to be doing all it can to build the FOX brand as the place to watch if you want an alternative to whatever story the government is trying to sell on any given day.

So, we have established that:
(1)FOX is definitely independent of the goverment,
(2) FOX's critics call it "entertaining,"
(3) FOX's ratings are going through the roof and
(4) all the other modia are talking about FOX and what FOX's strategy is going ot be.

FOX's competition must be wild with envy. It seems like that's what the news media used to pride itself on.

Of course, FOX is vulnerable. FOX's competitors could also choose to become independent of the government. That would dilute the FOX brand. But that probably won't happen for at least three years. So FOX has at least three years to build its brand without substantial competition. What company wouldn't love being in the position of having a three year lock on market growth!

Posted by: jfv123 | October 19, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Fox is only reaping what they've so carefully sown. You cannot have shows on for months at a time that repeatedly put forth demonstrable falsehoods - about the president's birthplace, about death panels, about health reform covering illegals - and not expect to be treated like a cartoon channel.

Any White House has the right to have at least minimum standards for what they consider a news outlet.

And besides, what irony that Fox is whining about being losers in the "free market of ideas"! They are free to host whatever drivel they think will sell to their brain damaged adherants -- and other players are free to deal with them, or not, as they see fit.

Any more questions?

Posted by: B2O2 | October 19, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

All he is doing is following the example set by Bob Ehrlich, except he hasn't actually banned anyone from his events. Unlike Bush Obama doesn't arrest people who publicly dissent either. He also hasn't been caught with a Jeff Gannon type running around his home.

Posted by: williamwertman | October 19, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

The only thing Fox doesn't make up is football. They couldn't script the lousy playing of the Redskins. With all of Danny's money he should be buying time on Fox to explain why he can't field a winning team. I trust Fox news as much I I trust John Bohner looking out for the average American. The only thing Fox can't do is say no. They have to make up a story to fit their fair and honest reporting from O' Reilly, Beck and Hannerty.

Posted by: msjn1 | October 19, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Fox "News" is an embarrassing farce. And anyone that watches it and/or pretends it is an objective news organization (including, I guess, Jo-Ann Armao) is a crackpot and should be ignored - or laughed at. And, come on, Jo-Ann! Comparing Fox "News" to MSNBC is akin to arguing (and conservatives frequently do argue it) that since they don't poke fun at liberals' crazy assertions that the Earth is many millenia old - and round, their point of view - that the Earth is 6,000 years old and flat - should be given equal time and consideration. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: chert | October 19, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

If Fox News is so inane, so news worthless, so biased that even the Whitehous can see it, than what is the Whitehouse worried about? News entities who have exhibited the same characteristics before have self destructed, ie: Chris Matthews, Keith Oberman, Dan Rather, MSNBC-ratings down to nothing.

So what's the problem. If Fox is so terrible, they won't last long. If they are so dishonest, someone will out them.

Or is the Whitehouse losing so much political traction that they have picked on Fox News for icing down the slippery slope Obama is on?

Posted by: reginacoeli | October 19, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

jfv123, your careful analysis ignores one major factor as to why Fox is "killing" the competition. We are a politically divided country, and they are the only network that has traded in its journalistic integrity for a policy of unabashedly presenting the world through a prism that will flatter and satisfy one third of the politically divided country.

That will remain a wise business decision just as long as that half of the country continues to devalue themselves enough to want to be fed fantasy in place of news. When they get tired of being confused about who attacked us, what proposed legislation will do, and how policies really affect them, Fox will go downhill even while ostensibly catering to a third of the population.

In the meantime I agree, they are making money hand over fist from their cognitively-challenged viewing captives.

Posted by: B2O2 | October 19, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

You got it wrong! FOX isn't whining - they are revelling in the raise in ratings! :-)
The Pinheads in the White House are making fools of themselves!!

Posted by: thornegp2626 | October 19, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

DoubleDownDC wrote: It'll make Fox more partisan, to keep up that perception, and the Admin will continue to alienate Fox viewers. So, basically, by not giving Fox access, they allow the misinformation to continue, which hurts their chances of passing anything - I'm not sure that's so smart.
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I don't know what's worse than having someone who views FauxNews (Faux in French is False!) as balanced. And the bit about alienating FauxNews viewers, who do you think are the rabid FauxNews viewers? They are the members of the coalition of birthers, teabaggers, radical right wing "christians", secessionist, ultra racists, healthcare anti-reformist,etc., are all the same core group of poor, semi-illiterate, semi-informed ultra-conservative pawns tricked by the corporate masters and cheerleadered by AM conservative talk radio to get these people to believe and vote against their own self interest.

The majority of this US could care less what these bozos say. FAUXNEWS = LYING & SCHEMING SLIME SEWAGE DUMP.

Posted by: numbers28 | October 19, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Just confirms that Fox is the _only_ news origanization left.

Posted by: NoWeCant | October 19, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

No, lostcause, if you spell it the same way twice (whinning) it's not a typo, it's semi-literate.

Posted by: annew2 | October 19, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Poor Jo-Ann wins a fellowship to a self-indulgent Stanford thing start to believe that she's better and smarter than everyone else (Lawyer have the same flaw).

The reality is that in hip journalism circles, Fox is consider ridiculous and not even worthy of comment.

The only thing that gets all these so-called journalists angry is that Fox actually has a pretty good news division and gets better ratings than anyone else.

The thing that really steams these so-called journalists is that they don't understand how wonderful and smart obama is (just like aforementioned journalists) and what's worse is they cater to those icky, dirty red states that don't really embrace the kinds of things "smart people" (again like the aforementioned journalists) embrace.

So when the Wonderful & Smart White House attacks the enemy, Fox News, it's a bit predictable where people like Jo-Ann would fall here. They're secretly cheer for the Wonderful & Smart people in the White House while trying to put up the thinnest veneer of "Well, we respect the first amendment..." nonsense.

And then you wonder why newspapers are going out of business. You have contempt for the readership you should be courting.

Reminds me of a local bank that got too big for it's britches (Suburban). I told them 20 years ago "You guys will go out of business with this arrogance and when you are thrown out of work, I will come down here and applaud".

Sure enough they went out of business and were bought by some bigger bank. I didn't go down and applaud, mainly because I work for a living. Something that may be foreign to the fans of the current administration. And something that may become unfamiliar to the employees of the Post in about 18 months.

Posted by: Skeptic1 | October 19, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight!

"False Noise" Network WOULD NOT show the President's speech on "Health Care Reform," but want to cry about the President's administration not accepting interviews from the "Fixed" News Network?

Yeah...that's "Fair and Balanced" for you! I support our President's decision to shun those r*tards!

Faux Noise Network called the Dixie Chicks "unpatriotic" for speaking out against the war. But the network can turn around and just give every ounce of negative press towards our President when he hasn't been in office for a hot minute?

Yeah...that's "Fair and Balanced"....but for who?

President Barack Obama 2012!!!

Posted by: BigHustla | October 19, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Billisnice: This is a fight between Obama and the Constitution? Really? There are First Amendment implications here? Where do you get that from? Do you have any idea what you are talking about? The same First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that gives me the right to ask you these very obvious questions also allows the President and any of his advisors to levy well-deserved criticism on Fox “News.” Or did you think the First Amendment existed only to protect a far-right propaganda machine and its disjointed ravings against the public disrobing of its thin veil of legitimacy? Just asking (as is my right).

Posted by: ckenjones | October 19, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm confused with this OPED, the President of the United States whinned that FOX news was not on board with his policies not the reverse. I must warn all liberals that FOX News is not in the tank for Obama. They don't kiss his ring everyday and ask what to report and how to report it like ABC, CBS, MSNBC and CNN. So if you want liberal slanted news that has been cleared by the White House don't listen to FOX.

Posted by: quillerm | October 19, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

In a nation of over 330 million people, how many view FAUXNEWS again? Rethugs just keep spewing the same LIES about ratings. If FAUXNEWS (Faux=False in French is drowning in their ratings, that would mean less than 20 million viewers, which the base of the current Grand nO Party. So unless you are using FAUXNEWS (false) numbers, you and your ilk are on the wrong side of history. The majority of the country wants the public option in the healthcare debate, but FauxNews will never report those numbers. FAUXNEWS is FALSE!

Posted by: numbers28 | October 19, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Fox should not be considered a news network. They do not conduct themsleves in a manner consistent with generally accepted journalistic standards and ethics. They admit their own bias.

Fox is merely the Comedy Network under another banner. I would no more expect the White House to acknowledge a Stewart/Colbert reporter, or Entertainment Tonight reporter than I would a Fox reporter.

Posted by: MHawke | October 19, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

So why are you people whining? Oh, thats what republicans do when they are not in charge of government. Whine and complain about the person who is, then when they get in charge they screw themselves out of power and what do they do, more whining about the person who takes their place. I think the republicans think they dont have to do anything to improve their party image, just spend the next three years complaining about Obama and hopefully they can make him less popular than they are with voters. Good luck. We havent forgotting how our country was headed down such a slippery slope that we voted for Obama in the first place.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 19, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

JFV123,

The Definition of Entertainment on the free encyclopedia website is:

An entertainment is any activity which provides a diversion or permits people to amuse themselves in their leisure time.

Entertainment is typically passive - as in watching opera or a movie. Activities which involve participating in games or sports are more often considered to be recreation.[1] Activities such as personal reading or practising a musical instruments are considered as hobbies.

The industry that provides entertainment is called the entertainment industry. There are many forms of entertainment, which cater for particular tastes.

For example, there is cinema, theatre, sports, games, social dance which cater for different groups of people. These may also be grouped on the age of persons interested, such as child entertainment or adult entertainment. For example, puppets, clowns, pantomimes and cartoons tend to appeal to children, though adults may also find them enjoyable.

If people want to define Fox News as an Entertainment News Channel, that's fine with me.

However, this is main reason why we have so many issues in this country that are not being seen as REAL issues that affect peoples lives everyday.

As B2O2 stated, this is why the country is divided.

This is why we have the extreme partisan politics in the country.

The bottom line is that we have people in this country that are treating every issue, and every problem, as if it is some kind of sporting event.

The sad thing about it is that the FOX News Network is the instigator of this type of polictics into our system,and they are using the least educated to help them keep it up.

The last time I checked REAL News was NOT Entertainment.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | October 19, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

quillerm wrote:
I'm confused with this OPED, the President of the United States whinned that FOX news was not on board with his policies not the reverse. I must warn all liberals that FOX News is not in the tank for Obama. They don't kiss his ring everyday and ask what to report and how to report it like ABC, CBS, MSNBC and CNN. So if you want liberal slanted news that has been cleared by the White House don't listen to FOX.
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Since FAUXNEWS is not in the tank for the POTUS, then they should be happy that the administration refuses to be interviews on their sewage filled network. But FAUXNEWS is the real whiner here! If I were in charge at the White House, I would throw out the FAUXNEWS lemmings masquerading as reports.

Posted by: numbers28 | October 19, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Fox, you live by your rule and you die by them. We all know why you want Obama on your channel, to attack him and get ratings in the process. He has been on your programming before. He does not need you, you need him. Look at you republicans, you were wrong on everything the last 8 years, including the 08 election now you want to spend the next 3 and a half whining. Truth is if you dont shape up you will be whining another 7 years.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 19, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Fox is a joke. Anyone who gets their opinions spoonfed to them by these idiots is a...... well.... an IDIOT!

This White House hasn't gone far enough - Fox should have to be listed as a cartoon channel. I mean come on Glenn Beck? Hannity is such a liar and really dumb. Can't Fox find college educated people wo work for them?

Posted by: Julescator | October 19, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I agree this is stupid post but the White House whining is more stupid. Reminds me of local instead of national politics which is where I think this administration still thinks it is.

The biggest kick I get is the liberal reaction to all this. It was OK to do / say these things about Bush, his politics and his administration but now that the messiah is in office it's just not fair. What a bunch of whiners.

Personally it bothers me to know the administration is oh so bothered by Fox. I didn't care for many of the Bush administration decisions and I was glad - at least I was - that we were getting a new perspective on the issues. Seeing how this administration feels it must react to issues I can surmise are only being reported by Fox makes me very leery about this administration and its agenda. What is it they are trying to hide? This reaction leads credence to the fact that Fox is reporting news that other, more liberal news media, are not and the administration doesn't like it.

Maybe the Congress could bring back the Alien and Sedition act of 1798. Then President Adams used it to lock up more than a few newspaper editors for writing things about him he didn't like. Maybe Nancy Pelosi already has the bill written?

Posted by: JAMoore1 | October 19, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Whining? Sorry, but the Washington Post will have to wait in line on the whining business. We have a President who is the prince of whining. Particularly when others question his distinctly un-presidential activities such as beer garden counseling sessions, embarrassing Olympic boondoggles, and lowering himself to squabble with a new outlet. In my lifetime, there have been many mediocre to strong Presidents, but this one is the least professional, underqualified, misfocused of the bunch. Nope, you gotta wait in line if you are going to discuss whining. For the emporer is devoid of clothes? Now that's something to whine about!

Posted by: donchew1 | October 19, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing news worthy about a Fox broadcast. Like all TV non-news it fails to present facts, engage a deeper story, or seek the truth.

It does however push its owner's neoconservative political and self-serving business goals.

The main reasons for viewing a Fox broadcast are "The Simpsons" and "Family Guy"

Posted by: onestring | October 19, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

"Now, on to the morons who decided calling Fox News "Faux News"....did you graduate at all? Read the word "faux" phonetically. (as in say it out loud.) it is not pronounced "fox", rather "FO" (rhymes with NO) yes, I understand it means fake, but still. Learn pronunciation you morons. It only works if they SOUND similar.

Actually, Plix, these are guys from your side of the fence, too. Guess that means you all are making the pool "semi-literate". Good luck raising the bar. "

Posted by: lostcause227

You obviously don't get the joke.

And YOU have the nerve to call someone "semi-literate"? ROTFALMBAO!

If you take issue with someone calling that propaganda machine and joke of a news network "Faux News", you definitely ARE a "lostcause".

Now go have a happy landing.

Posted by: ceefer66 | October 19, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Let's say I went over a friend house and sat on her pouch, she decided to go inside and when she opens her door I could see all the junk piled-up in her house and get a "faint foul odor smell" coming from her house....

Let me ask you something - Do you actually think I would want to sat foot in her house?.....HELL NAH!!

Posted by: danson1 | October 19, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

No, the real whining is from those pompous, racist, name calling, Obama bashing, opinionated, right-wing idiots at FOX news. The bad part is, they do it all in the name of politics. President Obama is not obligated to give them the time of day and I hope he does not give them or people like you the sweat off his brow.

Posted by: FunnyGirl1 | October 19, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

This White House hasn't gone far enough - Fox should have to be listed as a cartoon channel. I mean come on Glenn Beck? Hannity is such a liar and really dumb. Can't Fox find college educated people wo work for them?

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Noooo, because they only do Entertainment News.

Did you NOT get the message?

The News hours is to only entertain the Dimwits, Rubes & Goobers, and Ditto Heads.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | October 19, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

This is a riot - the Obamaites getting in a tizzy over a media outlet which doesn't fawn over him and his Chicago crew and the Next Great Thing. Grow up, or better yet, send Rahm over to cuss them out. Now that is statemanship.

Posted by: BlueMax1 | October 19, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

My take on this is that it's all politics. FoxNews wants to paint Obama Administration as "liberal"; and the admninistration wants to paint FoxNews as the evil messenger of GOP partisans. This faux debate is a huge distraction from real issues.

Meanwhile, real people are unemployeed; mortgage foreclosures are increasing, and health care reform is stalled in congress.

People in my neighborhood want to work, and continue raising a family in the safe suburbs.

Posted by: rmorris391 | October 19, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is so partisan now days no one has their own opinion anymore. We all look to see if the person is a republican or democrat then we judge them based on what our political leanings are. We cant agree on simple things because everyone wants to score political points. Americans now hate one another based on politics not realizing that they may be the same people high five'ing each other at a sporting event. Like I always ask, when the planes hit the towers did anyone care who was republican or democrat? Partisan politics is making our country weak. Republicans whining about Obama before he passes one bill. Political parties who would rather have their own party in charge doing a bad job than the other party in charge doing a good job. America is weak.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 19, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Fox News is propaganda. Nothing more, nothing less. The Administration is better served by ignoring them.

Posted by: cdamore1 | October 19, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

It now takes $1043 to buy an ounce of gold, whereas it took $759 to buy that same ounce when Obama was elected. It costs $79 today to buy a barrel of oil vs $38 when he took office. Our dollar is crumbling like an old dry cookie, we have a 9.8% unemployment rate, are fighting two wars, one of which is being escalated, and are adding $5 billion per DAY to our national debt.

And what is the this administration doing? They have picked a fight with a News organization. The enemy's that way Obama-look toward Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Posted by: reginacoeli | October 19, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

My take on this is that it's all politics. FoxNews wants to paint Obama Administration as "liberal"; and the admninistration wants to paint FoxNews as the evil messenger of GOP partisans. This faux debate is a huge distraction from real issues.

Meanwhile, real people are unemployeed; mortgage foreclosures are increasing, and health care reform is stalled in congress.

People in my neighborhood want to work, and continue raising a family in the safe suburbs.

Posted by: rmorris391 | October 19, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

BlueMax1

And the republicans are in a tizzy because Obama a democrat is president when they lost the ballgame on their own court. It would be one thing if the democrats had been in charge the last 8 years doing a bad job and Obama won, but it was the REPUBLICANS who were in charge, remember? They did such a poor job that Obama was able to beat them in an election. Obama as president is a direct reflection of the republicans failures at leadership. After owning the political arena for 8 years do you really think Obama would have won the 08 election if you had just done your jobs while you were in power? Do republicans ever man up and ask themselves that simple question? Apparently not, its easier to whine about Obama than to look at themselves in the mirror.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 19, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"False" News Network may have "millions" of viewers.

But just ask yourselves this.

What's the percentage numbers of the viewers that are looking at it for the comedy value vs. die-hard right-wing nut cases? Come on. We all love to laugh at supidity sometimes.

Posted by: BigHustla | October 19, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

"And that’s why I’m having a hard time understanding all this fuss about the Obama administration not wanting to play ball with Fox News."

Huh??? Because it's good publicity for Faux and being on the "outside" is a good way for Faux to whip their base into a foaming-mouthed frenzy.

Please. Faux is loving it.

Posted by: arancia12 | October 19, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who defends Fox News needs an intellectual makeover. If you need someone or something to think for you, Fox is your channel. If you have a modicum of intelligence, however, you would avoid them like the plague. Imagine enduring more than thirty seconds of Glenn Beck et al. What a waste of time.

Posted by: fasm7700 | October 19, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Fox seems to always have their panties in a wad about something. They couldn't fawn over Shrub and his group enough, asking every light weight question imaginable. But to Democrats, they act like they're intitled to lie about their efforts, and slam them for not appearing on their bigotry network.
Perhaps that's why they've never won an award for news. They don't do news. They do propaganda.

Posted by: COLEBRACKETT | October 19, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

reginacoeli ...............????

Where was all the crying you doing when Bush was dumping billions of dollars in Iraq and asking the majority ran repulican congress for blank checks to cover the cost?

Exactly! Just remember, the immdiate issues we are facing now are a result of your boy Bush!

Get it right!

Posted by: BigHustla | October 19, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

All the people ranting here against Fox News have clearly never actually watched it.

Posted by: tomteboda | October 19, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

"He does not need you, you need him."

Dude, hate to burst your obama-bubble, bu Fox news has record high ratings, and Obama's ratings are falling faster by the week.

Obama will come grovelling over to Fox in about 4 weeks. Maybe sooner.

Posted by: Skeptic1 | October 19, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Fox is the propaganda arm of the GOP.

However, that said, I think the White House should grant interviews. Better to expose the obvious falsehoods and smears that would result from such an interview than be labeled a coward for not playing the game in the first place.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | October 19, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Those of us overseas watch AFN...Fox used to be on all the time...especially at the meal time when virtually thousands of soldiers were eating....and watching Fox on the huge screens.

I witnessed in some cases soldiers actually booing and throwing the bread rolls at the big screen when Fox was on...

Fox is not news..is it mostly about opinions...and the network supported Bush 100% of the time...

Most now just watch CNN.

Posted by: LTC-11A | October 19, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

It's time the White House took on the gaggle of liars and distorters who slink around over at "The Sly FOX", the dirty dog of televised propaganda.. those FOXites can dish it out but they sure can't take it.. they rely on their core audience being frightened and scared which makes it easy to mislead them.. facts mean nothing to the FOXites because their motto is "let's scare the hell out of our viewers and they'll believe anything we tell 'em"..

Posted by: VietVet68 | October 19, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

"One would think there weren’t issues of real import that demand the nation’s attention."

I mean, by writing this piece aren't you also ignoring real news while squabbling over this issue?

Posted by: Publ1us | October 19, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

You don't understand Fox's problem?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

First of all they and conservatives in general are overjoyed at this development, for too many reasons to list here. What you should be asking is why the other 5 LIBERAL news organizations are queasy about this. And you might as well include the deeply Liberal WoPo in that group because it directly affects you.

The reason the other news organizations are queasy is that they know that they are deeply Liberal but have maintained a delicate lie for the past 30 years: "You can't prove anything and even if you can there is no precedent for you to determine who is a News organization and who isn't.
You just have to take what we dish out because if you don't we will paint you as Nazi's"

All that is over now.

The precedent has now been established by a Democratic President that the White house can unilaterally determine who is a news organization and who isn't.


Posted by: RJ14 | October 19, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Skeptic1 said:
Dude, hate to burst your obama-bubble, bu Fox news has record high ratings, and Obama's ratings are falling faster by the week.
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Fox's ratings may compare favorably with other cable news organizations. However, in terms of actual viewers, the broadcast stations are far and away the most watched. For July 14-18, the combined numbers for the big three broadcast news shows was around 21 million. FOX News probably couldn't acheive those kinds of numbers in a month.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | October 19, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

This is a media hoopla from Fox and their friends - Kurtz, etc. I didn't hear Fox complaining that the Bush Administration should appear on other networks when they had the monopoly.

If Fox acted like a network instead of a Republican publicity machine maybe those of us in the real world would care. We don't.

Posted by: rlj1 | October 19, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

All the people ranting here against Fox News have clearly never actually watched it.

Posted by: tomteboda | October 19, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse


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I watched it during the spring tea parties. The "news" was manufactured.

Posted by: mikem1 | October 19, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

tomteboda said: All the people ranting here against Fox News have clearly never actually watched it.
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That's because it's unwatchable!!.. lie after lie after lie.. thinking is not illegal yet, unless you're a FOXite, television for dummies!

Posted by: VietVet68 | October 19, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Jo- Ann Amaeo - But you think
it is O.K. for you to whine about
FOX ?

YOU SHOULD
STOP WHINING ABOUT FOX !

When FOX finally DOES get the CHICKEN SQUEEZE to be interviewed ... they will be just as BLAND AND PASTY AND CENSORED as the rest of OBUMMERS SERVILE MEDIA

Posted by: noHUCKABEEnoVOTE | October 19, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

It was time that someone of importance came out and said what EVERYONE already knows, that Fox News is not a news channel, but a propaganda machine for the conservative point of view. Watch it if you like. It is a free country after all. I tried to sample one or two of its shows. I felt my IQ diminishing as I watched. This explains the loyal audience it still has. Morons will watch anything.

Posted by: nyrunner101 | October 19, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Faux News has two sets of rules, one for conservatives that can do no wrong, regardless of the damage to our country, and another for liberals that can do no right. O'Reilly is one of the more truthful talking heads there, yet you hear Limbaugh should not be held to account for his comments, while Obama is blamed for the rantings of Wright, Farrakan, Ayers etc. Birthers, racists, McCarthyites, creationists are the majority of viewers. The less than 20% of America they represent tells this American, most are sensible people. Supporting the GOP damaging our country is their niche (Palin), as opposed to voices of reason like Powell, Lugar and Crist. I turn a tin ear and eye to anyone that thinks Fox is objective. Where Fox is correct is calling most of mainstream media biased to the left, leaving one outlet nearly all of conservative viewer share. Beck waits on a dead Whitehouse hot phone, while liberals like Maddow get on Face the Nation to grill GOP congress on contradictory statements or falsehoods.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 19, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I don't recall Fox as the one that is Whining. It's our thin skinned President and his Communist Mass Murdering Dictator lovers like Anita Dunn.

Posted by: robtr | October 19, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Why do you socialists watch a "faux news" station? If you don't watch it, how do you know they put out "faux news"? :)))

AS for the poster who told me to "get it right", I believe I did. Facts are indeed stubborn things. Obama has all this stuff on his plate. He didn't have to run. So now when he's got the football he wanted, he punts!

You want to place blame. I got loads of blame for Clinton, Rubin, Summers, Frank, Dodd, Pelosi, Reins, ACORN.

You could buy an ounce of gold for $759 when Obama was elected, now it will cost you $1043. A barrel will cost you $79, vs $38 when he took office. He inherited a 7% unemployment rate that he assured Americans wouldn't go past 8%. Look at it now. Medicare and Social Security are nearly insolvent, yet he's pushing yet another huge social program, Obamacare that will break the bank.

And yet he finds time to go to war with a news organization! If Fox news is so inane, so "faux", so dishonest, than why does the President of the United States waste time with them, given all that's on his plate?

Posted by: reginacoeli | October 19, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I got news for you, Fox isn't whining, its churning. The adminstration's complaints about the network have been a ratings bonanza. I wonder how long this adminstration will assist with churning up the airwaves.

Posted by: SEAN19 | October 19, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Whats the matter with the white house someone stood up to them and so they are going to take their toys and go home? What are they a bunch of 10 year olds that cannot take any criticism?

When the Democrats get hammered in 2010 you are going to be able to point at the childish way the white house handles criticism as a major reason why. I just wish I had abstained from voting for Obama in the last election instead of showing loyalty to the Democratic party of which I have been a member for these past 20 years.

Posted by: DCDave11 | October 19, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I am sure that next time a Republican takes over the Presidency and offers the policy against the Washington Post, NYT, NBC/MSBC those who are cheering President Obama on its actions against Fox will feel cheer the Republican as well.

Posted by: Drumfire | October 19, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

If you look at Fox News starting at 5:00 pm Eastern Time, all the shows are opinion shows with various points of view. If I turn on Fox before 5:00 pm, I get in my opinion straight news.

News reporting depends on the way that a person perceives the news. I can find many samples during the evening news which I consider to be shaded toward giving the current administration more favorable reporting compared to the reporting when Bush was in office. Another person with a more liberal view would have an entirely different view of the evening news.

I consider Fox Channel (not Fox News) to be a very liberal network with their programming with the exception of the NFL. While they did not show Obama's latest speech, they also ask viewers to watch the speech at Fox News. Given that ABC, NBC and CBS showed the speech, there was plenty of opportunity for anyone who wanted to listen. I do remember that ABC, NBC and CBS would not give Bush prime time during the last 4 four years.

Posted by: sales7 | October 19, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

The people agreeing with Fox are the same ones who whined about the President encouraging children to work hard & do their homework, or the President taking his wife on a date, and the President taking a weeks vacation. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!

Posted by: minco_007 | October 19, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Jo- Ann Amaeo - But you think
it is O.K. for you to whine about
FOX ?

YOU SHOULD
STOP WHINING ABOUT FOX !

When FOX finally DOES get the CHICKEN SQUEEZE to be interviewed ... they will be just as BLAND AND PASTY AND CENSORED as the rest of OBUMMERS SERVILE MEDIA

Posted by: noHUCKABEEnoVOTE
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First of all....take your meds!

Second of all...President Obama did do an interview with the Fales News Network during the General Election time....with the head of the lying (ooooops...Lion) Bill O'Riely.

Thank you.

Posted by: BigHustla | October 19, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Jo-Ann,

A simple question.

How many times in those 30 years did those officials go on record as saying your organization was off limits?

The answer is what would be the most telling. Like you, I can understand the administration not being enamored with Fox, but in all my years, I have not seen any administration pick a fight with or single out any media as the White House has with Fox. At least not to this degree.

Actually, I think it is clever on both their parts. While everyone is focused on these two fighting and name calling. The real issues that should be dealt with are being relegated to the second page. This way the White House moves the focus away from the real issues and Fox gets better ratings so they can sell advertising at higher rates.

All this goes on while the country loses.

Clever when you think about it. Just maybe that angle would make a good article Jo-Ann.


Posted by: Jim65 | October 19, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Fox News...
Fox has become THE news organization.
Ask Van Jones... ask Acorn.... Ask every news outlet that quotes Rush, quotes Hannity, quotes O'Reilly.

The more Fox is bashed the more it proves its relevance.

Fox, like Rush, are going in the other direction (conservative) meaning against the main stream media THUS makes it more popular.

TWP, TWT and other news outlets should take note and turn in the Media for Obama credentials and maybe their products would see improvement.

Posted by: ravioliman6666 | October 19, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Goes to show how stupid the Fox supporters are. Calling the appointees CZAR an ignorant action picked up by Fox...all the appointees the Obama administration has in office were also appointed by KING bush. I didn't hear Fox call them CZARs the one who started all this is mush brain beck. Who really truly doesn't know which end is up, but is supported by Fox News because he is stupid enough to show how STUPID he is with the stuff he does on the air...but I suppose Fox culls the crap and puts them on TV, cause what self=respecting person WOULD go on that show.

Posted by: msealock | October 19, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

It would be nice if the Obama Admin. would look into recinding all of those waivers for overlapping media outlets across the United States granted to the BAD people of FOX as the "Go to" of propaganda outlets.

It's safe to say that FOX represents ALL of the evils possible in media, and clearly represents a threat to America's domestic tranquility.

Posted by: BellsBlu2 | October 19, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

If the standard is that you can't have a bias, then NBC/MSNBC, CNN, ABC and CBS aren't news organizations at all either.

Now granted, Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are conservatives. But at least they bring on liberals to debate with them.

When's the last time that little wuss Keith Olbermann actually had a conversation with anyone who didn't agree with his ridiculous tinfoil conceptions? Never. He's a lightweight.

As for daytime anchors, if anyone thinks CNN's Rick Sanchez is anywhere near objective, then you're just crazy and you need to put down the Kool-Aid. Fox's Megyn Kelly is FAR more objective than anyone on CNN or MSNBC. And Shepherd Smith is far and away the best straight evening news anchor on any station, network or cable. And yes, he DOES call it down the middle most of the time. Even most liberals -- the sane ones anyway, a shrinking number I grant you -- will cop to that.

So big deal. Fox has conservative hosts. That makes it roughly one versus five (six if you count PBS which still employs the deplorable Bill Moyers) in terms of liberal versus conservative television news organizations.

Posted by: etpietro | October 19, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Big Hustla: Found your post. Bush went into Iraq for the very reason Obama was given his undeserved Nobel Peace Prize, among other things a perception that he was eliminating WMD (he has eliminated none, and the Russians think he is a joke).

Must I explain all this. You couldn't be very old, or you would remember that almost the entire congress voted to fund Bush's invasion of Iraq. Most of the world thought Saddam had WMD back then, which is what the dictator wanted us to think, especially Iran. We didn't find any WMD, but we found a tyrant who committed genocide on almost a million of his own countrymen, the Shiites and Kurds.

After deposing Saddam, Bush established a fledgling Democracy in the heart of the Arab world, something Kennedy and Johnson failed to do in Southeast Asia where 54,000 American soldiers lost their lives with 4000 MIA. Iraq has lost about 4400 to date after 8 years.

The people in Iraq voted in their first ever free election in 2005, selecting representatives to write their first constitution. In 2007, they elected their leaders for the first time, rather than being forced to vote only for a Saddam.

The Iraq war has cost, by the most liberal estimates approximately $750 billion to date, about half of fiscal 2009's deficit of $1.4 trillion. This while Obama quietly escalated the war in Afghanistan last week with 13,000 more troops, the same war he accused Bush of abandoning. That in itself contradicts your contention.

Fiscal 2010 promises an even bigger deficit, according to CBO, even as Johnson's Medicare and FDR's and Wagner's Social Security are rapidly going insolvent. Only money (that we don't have but will print or borrow) will fix these two financial black holes. But Obama presses forward for a socialized healthcare program that won't be able to fund itself, despite Baucus's "FAUX" claim.

I got it right Big Hustla, and you need to do some reading.

Posted by: reginacoeli | October 19, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Krauthammer should learn from Armao: both sides in almost every political argument can simultaneously be praised and blamed.

Please PostPartisan, do away with every writer who predictably toes one ideological line. Although unmistakably brilliant, they tether their glistening intellects to their desire to be right.

Keep Armao and a few others, sack those who can't see beyond their own desires.

Posted by: mbus | October 19, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

LMAO Stop whining FOX??? If anyone is whining it is the Obama admin and the Mao worshiper Anita Dunn.

Freedom of the press?? As long as it worships instead of criticizes Obama.

Posted by: Straightline | October 19, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Fox news' stories are designed for a junior high student level - rumor ("some people say"), innuendo and cleavage/legs. It's pretty hilarious when they are their own lead story, which is regular.

They crow about their high ratings - yeah, they get most of the people who don't have anything better to do than watch TV. There are millions of us who don't watch cable news every night, and we could care less what Fox will make up tonight. It's like saying The Enquirer has the largest newspaper circulation. True, but meaningful? No. President Obama has the right idea, let them spew their vitriol without participating - Fox is a joke to all intelligent American citizens.

Posted by: jvlem | October 19, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

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Fixed News only exist for the idiots of this country.... we have many.

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Posted by: A-Voter | October 19, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Where was all the crying you doing when Bush was dumping billions of dollars in Iraq and asking the majority ran repulican congress for blank checks to cover the cost?
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Where was it...at home on election day letting your party win.

As an independent I find it hillarious that liberels think they are the majority. Conservative America punished the conservative party, only to be reminded why even the worst republican is better than the best democrat.

That being said, I understand the Obama administration theory. Hey if you can't win an argument on merits, just call the people asking questions names. Then hint that if you have the same question, you too are of the same name.

Brilliant.

Posted by: HugitThrough | October 19, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I do not even watch Fox News on Channel 5 for the Weather..

They even get that wrong..

ISA

Posted by: Issa1 | October 19, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

reginacoeli asked:Why do you socialists watch a "faux news" station? If you don't watch it, how do you know they put out "faux news"? :)))

I force myself to watch it because I want to know what they are saying. As part of the legal community, I know how to argue both sides of an issues, and being aware the opposing view's arguments is invaluable in gaining insight into an issue.


That being said, I find Fox's programming to be mostly innuendo and geared to a junior high mentality. In comparison to legitimate news outlets, and I don't mean MSNBC, it is not objectively factual and appears to seek to inflame rather than inform, IMHO.

Posted by: jvlem | October 19, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

The White House is stating the obvious in criticizing Fox. Of course, they have a conservative point of view. They are busy daily trying their best to undo the Obama administration. Fox should not carried away with their ratings. I watch it some in the evenings but I do understand that they have a point of view and they are not just reportings. You can sum up FOX...Republicans Good/Democrats Evil and bad for you... Let's face it they sure entertain.

Posted by: Rotimisolanke | October 19, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

"Must I explain all this. You couldn't be very old, or you would remember that almost the entire congress voted to fund Bush's invasion of Iraq." Posted by: reginacoeli

I believe you are wrong. Congress voted to give Bush the authority to invade Iraq after he promised to use that authority as an absolute last option.

Funding of the war was never done in the regular budget.

"The CSBA agreed and blamed the ballooning budgets on the Bush administration's unprecedented decision to fund the wars through giant emergency spending measures rather than through appropriations requests.

"The process has reduced the ability of Congress to exercise effective oversight. It has also tended to obscure the long-term costs and budgetary consequences of ongoing military operations," the report says. It also warns that such emergency bills have included "substantial amounts of funding for programs unrelated to the military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan." WaPo December 26, 2008

Let's face it, once the war was started, Congress had to fund it. When anyone stood in the way they were branded as traitors and troops haters.

Posted by: arancia12 | October 19, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Fox news is fair and balanced.

All sane people know that there are some liberals and some conservatives in the US.

All decent people know that both liberals and conservatives are entitled to their opinions, and to express those, even if the other side finds them abhorrent.

It's Obama who is whining, not Fox, by complaining that unlike the Legacy Media, Fox news actually permits conservative commentators to join in with the liberal commentators they have on the air, and expresses the same spectrum of opinions that regular folk have in America.

Unlike the Obama administration, Fox news has grown-ups in its audience who listen politely to the stuff they disagree with and enjoy the stuff they do agree with.

Posted by: andycutler | October 19, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

LMAO Stop whining FOX??? If anyone is whining it is the Obama admin and the Mao worshiper Anita Dunn.

Freedom of the press?? As long as it worships instead of criticizes Obama.

Posted by: Straightline | October 19, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

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Fox is free to be a propaganda wing for the Republican party, and Obama is free to express his opinion about it.

The day that Fox starts acting like a news organization is the day that Obama should pay attention to it.

Posted by: maggots | October 19, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

The real whining is coming from Little Lord Fauntleroy in the Oval who seems to always pee his pants over criticism of his policies. It's time to stand up and be a president and not a cheerleader!

Posted by: nmg3rln | October 19, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

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No, Fox is the cheerleader for all the birthers, teabaggers, and other conservative miscreants running around this country.

Posted by: maggots | October 19, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Whining isn't Fox New's true nature. Ranting and revving up the loyal viewer base is.

Posted by: MillPond2 | October 19, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Has this White House or this writer ever heard of the First Amendment? The White House has one media outlet out of how many that deigns to criticize it, and they can't take it? I feel sick. Mr. Obama seems to have more in common with Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro in his governing theories than any other Dem president that this country has ever had.

Posted by: MIMI13 | October 19, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

My Dad was visiting from out of the country this past weekend. I had a few shifts to work, so he sat around waiting for me to come home.

I think it says it all when he stated that he wondered about this FOx News channel.

He could not figure out their purpose as he said the only thing discussed was some bald guy screeching something about the "LEFTIES of this country keeping him from owning a football team" and that Obama is a racist. And the second news article was about the President not liking Fox News channel. And then he said they were ripping the European Medical Programs.

He thought this was a comedy skit - he said _WHERE WAS THE NEWS?????

Guess that says it all.

Posted by: kare1 | October 19, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

The White House, launched this as an all-out war against Fox, not the other way round. They sent the Communications Director onto CNN last week to declare war.

It is one thing to say that Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck are the voice of the Republican Party. It is quite another to say that a major network is the enemy of the Administration.

The last time we had a President with an enemies list this long was Richard Nixon, and there clearly is something Nixonian about this White House. It is throwback politics, the old Kennedy "don't get mad, get even" approach. Next thing you know there will be labor strikes against Fox motivated by support and thugs with baseball bats outside Chris Wallace's house.

Posted by: krush01 | October 19, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

"Has this White House or this writer ever heard of the First Amendment? The White House has one media outlet out of how many that deigns to criticize it, and they can't take it? I feel sick. Mr. Obama seems to have more in common with Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro in his governing theories than any other Dem president that this country has ever had.

Posted by: MIMI13 "

Don't you just love it? Now the neo-cons want to hide behind the First Amendment.

The First Amendment does indeed give any agenda-based lunatic fringe hack the right to shoot off his/her/its mouth. As a corollary, the listener - or the subject - has the right to ignore it, tune it out, and treat the source as if it has no credibility. Which is what the Administration has chosen to do.

It would be one thing if Fox News engaged in objective, constructive criticism and fair-minded opposition. Anyone with half a brain and a shred of honesty knows that is not the case.

"Fair and Balanced"? Yeah, right. About as "Fair and Balanced" as Pravda and Mein Kampf.

It swings both ways, playa'. Sorry you don't like it.

Posted by: ceefer66 | October 19, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

The only whining I've been hearing has been coming from the White House....poor Obumbles. Being President is Hard!

Posted by: luca_20009 | October 19, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

IT SEEMS IT IS THE WHITE HOUSE HIT MEN WHINING ABOUT FOX!! AND OBAMA WHO TOOK HIS TOYS AND WENT HOME INSTEAD OF FACING FOX!!!

Posted by: jjcrocket2 | October 19, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Being a human if some one tells you not to watch something that's the first they will turn to and listen closely to see why....I watch two news stations...FOX and CNN I take both with a grain of salt. When the WH came off with this Fox is not a news station I broke out laughing...why because it stated a point...Is it not the same goal of a certain OTHER leader well except he is a dictator....maybe the WH read that book...what do YOU think...Go FOX news if your getting under the governments skin you must be doing some thing right!

Posted by: Immanurse | October 19, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

This article is kind of pointless, Fox viewers can't read that is why they watch fox news where the average IQ of a viewer is below 90. No one that read the post takes Fox news seriously, it would probably be like watching that survivor show where everyone lies and schemes against the other person. Next topic please.

Posted by: Blah-Blah | October 19, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Armao swallows, and loves anal..

Posted by: SMWE357 | October 19, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

There is so much humor in this editorial that I don't know where to start.

This White House has dozens of networks and newspapers all over the country that shill for them daily. They get one that calls them out on their daily nonsense and they cry to mommy. That's an indication of what American's have to deal with this incompetent administration.

If Obama were a REAL leader, and wanted REAL bi-partisanship, he would want to reach out to Americans via Fox News. By avoiding Fox, he's made it clear that without providing undying adulation, he's not YOUR president...

Can you say MOST DIVISIVE PRESIDENT EVER

Posted by: RobParker | October 19, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Is Obama going to blame Fox for the 2010 beating the dems will take on their backsides? OR Is he going to blame MSNBC for not doing enough? Maddow,Olbermann and the guy with the tingly legs are on every night helping Obama. Why isn't Obama getting huffy over their poor performance. Heck EVEN Jon Stewart sees the irony. You should watch Jon Stewart. He seems to get it. He roasts the right mostly, but he really enjoys roasting the cable networks.

Posted by: -PBL- | October 19, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

I always thought the eleventh Commandment should be:

XI. Thou Shalt Stop Whining.

Obviously, Corporate Entities and Government Officers duck the obligations of the first ten Commandments when it suits them - (He Sighs) - so there is no reason to think they will do justice to number XI. That said, if the President stops whining, he still has a job, but if Fox stops whining, they are no longer employed.

One wonders what a Journalist must *really* think of their audience when the prospect of becoming one of them is a fate worse that death.

Posted by: gannon_dick | October 19, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Jo-Ann Armao's 30 years in journalism doesn't quite stretch back to the day when Nixon's VP called what is now known as MSM "nattering nabobs of negativism." The Post viewed that as a sinister precursor of an assault on freedom of the press. If Jo-Ann had been on the staff back then, would she have called her colleagues whiners and told them to relax?

Posted by: wumhenry | October 19, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Fox news asks the real tough questions? To who? Dick Cheney? George Bush? Any republican on the show? Are you frickin' kidding me. Let's take a look at who is on Fox and see if they are fair and balanced shall we.
Karl Rove-republican
Liz Cheney-republican
Glenn Beck-republican
Sean Hannity-extreme republican
Greta Van-republican
Bill O'Rilley-republican
Huckabee-republican
Fox and friends-all republicans
Yeah, Fox news is fair and balanced all right, what a hoot. I wish all democrats would refuse to go on Fox.

Posted by: kubrickstan | October 19, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Today Hannity was blustering on and on about the Fox News/White House issue. I found it interesting that he again explained to his radio audience that he is not an objective journalist...not on his radio show or his Fox News slot, but rather a Conservative with opinions (do ya think?!)

Since Fox continues to argue they are an objective news reporting outlet, shouldn't they be responsible enough to make a blanket nightly statement along the lines of....."the statements and opinions of this host do not reflect the opinions of Fox News "?
Just a thought......

Posted by: karenofpa | October 19, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse


Perhaps BO, the Dems, and the WaPo should stop whining.

Posted by: BorisB1 | October 19, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Oh you hypocritcal conservative blowhards...why is it okay for Darth Cheney to speak only to Faux News, yet with the shoes changed it isn't okay for the current CiC to pick his microphone? Honestly, your fork-tongued maroons (misspelling on purpose) make me ill!

Posted by: ghs61 | October 19, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

The whiner is Anita Dunn...but she's just carrying the water of Rahm Emmanuel...who is carrying the water for the President. Fox news has news shows and it has opinion yakkers...anybody who watches TV (everybody?) can tell the difference except Anita Dunn et al. Anita...and by extension Rahm...and thus his boss, need to grow up. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. At least change the channel.

Posted by: PanhandleWilly | October 19, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

"He could not figure out their purpose as he said the only thing discussed was some bald guy screeching something about the "LEFTIES of this country keeping him from owning a football team" and that Obama is a racist."

Whoever wrote this doesn't know how to craft a very credible lie. For one thing, Rush Limbaugh isn't even part of Fox News, and for another he's never called Obama a racist. Now you're just confusing various accusations made against people who may or may not be affiliated with Fox News in any capacity and bundling them together as "truth. Learn to quit lying.

Posted by: tomteboda | October 19, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Faux neus is simply the propaganda arm of the retardican party. It is no more than a glossy, grocery store tabloid that features stories of Elvis sightings, alien abductions and two-headed chickens. The talking heads that work for it will be embarrassments to their children when they grow up.

The dittoheads that Rush Limpbag spawned are indeed, a source of amusement for us all.

Posted by: 4Jaxon | October 19, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

"He could not figure out their purpose as he said the only thing discussed was some bald guy screeching something about the "LEFTIES of this country keeping him from owning a football team" and that Obama is a racist. "

Limbaugh isn't on Fox News...he's not even on TV...so you're a liar.

Posted by: PanhandleWilly | October 19, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Don't confuse whining with laughing, which is what FOX is doing all the way to the bank. This little Faux-Fox-Fight has done nothing but put FOX in the news and has increased their already booming viewership. Not Really Smart for Obama to move the focus from his health plan, Afghanistan and the economy by putting the focus on FOX . . . UNLESS that's the entire reason for this little fit of rage. DUH!

What Obama is doing is distracting his base by the shiny lights at FOX and moving their discontent from his failed administration and hollow promises to a tangible enemy which is FOX News. He brings his base together for a fight. How peaceful is that? Hope. Change. God Help Us.

Even Helen Thomas was quoted in the NY Times as saying this isn't a fight the White House should be involved in. When Helen Thomas speaks against the administration, then THAT'S worth noting!

The rest is smoke and mirrors, folks. Can the left spell "GULLIBLE"???

Posted by: JackESpratt | October 19, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see most the FOX supporters miss the subtle point here...if Obama can paint all opposition as being led by Fox (and their stable of absurdly partisan on-air talent) then he seems all the more reasonable. A strong, balanced GOP attack would harm him but that's not happening.

Posted by: AHappyWarrior | October 19, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

I applaud the administration for taking on Faux News. It's time they were called out on their propaganda, and no longer treated as a legitimate news organization.

Faux may win the ratings battle in the short term, but that's not surprising. After all 25% of the population consists of birthers, racists and wingnuts. While the rest of us divide our loyalties among the rest of the media, the 25% people who think George W. Bush was our best President will continue to swear by Fox.

Let Murdoch and Ailes continue to make money off those unfortunate and delusional souls. Meanwhile the administration should continue its efforts to delegitimize Fox to the rest of the country.

Posted by: sambam | October 19, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

No harm in simply calling Fox what it is.

Most news isn't political in nature, yet Fox brings in a GOP political ad man to run its entire news channel. That right there says exactly what the channel is and what it stands for. There will always be duhs who gravitate towards Fox's variety of propaganda, and sure there are people who might rally behind Fox because of the administration's statements about the propaganda outlet.

The administration should continue to treat Fox as it would any other GOP-centric political organization.

Nixon to his credit would probably have had the IRS audit the channel and its multiple tax havens.

Posted by: JPRS | October 19, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Apparently Obama is sensitive to critics. Please. Stick to the critical issue and forget this nonsense on Fox. Even I can better use my time.

Posted by: 45upnorth | October 19, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Ah, you poor patriots at Fox. My heart pumps orange juice for you.

Just wish Obama would do the same to CNN until it dumps Dobbs into the Fox sewer, like it did the other pasty faced pundit. (I've never listened to him. It's hard enough to look at him!)

Posted by: expat2MEX | October 19, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

I've been following this pretty closely, and I don't sense any "whining" from Fox News. The network continues to cover events at the White House and on the President's schedule. It's true that Fox's Chris Wallace (a registered Democrat, by the way) can't land any big heavies for Sunday talk interviews, but who cares? His big mistake was fact checking an appearance by Tammy Duckworth, something that incensed previously unheard from and unknown Anita Dunn, who now is famous for her love of Mao and his little red book.

All of this will pass at some point, because even the fawning main stream media will eventually tire of the control the Obama people now admit they attempt to use on the press. It is quite possible that Axelgrease and the Ballerina sensed a shift in the attitude of their accolytes (perhaps occasioned by Helen Thomas very public admonition to Gibbs several weeks ago), and decided they way to head this off was to attack Fox. They need to keep the Chuck Todds and Andrea Mitchell lapping up every bit of their propaganda, and if those types thought they would be HORROR OF HORRORS denied access, as is being done to Fox, they would think twice about running anything mildly critical of the Great Leader and his merry band of village idiots.

Posted by: Curmudgeon10 | October 19, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

The White House ignores Fox yet it's the New York times that is laying off folks.

Posted by: grunk | October 19, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Fox "News" has no legitimate claim to be recognized as a credible source or information. They have more in common with Pravda from the former Soviet Union. People watch Fox out of morbid fascination, similar to auto accidents, wrestling, and childhood brawls. Their most famous personalities are an exhibition of mental patients without medication. Fox has been increasingly recognized as being below supermarket tabloids and other obvious sources of propaganda and spin. Rev. Bookburn - Radio Volta

Posted by: revbookburn | October 19, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

A more accurate Name for "Fox News" - - -
"GOP Ministry of Slander and Propaganda"

Posted by: lufrank1 | October 19, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

The Magic Marxist, and his little henchmen are not being payed with US tax dollars to fight with Fox News.

Obama better start fighting a failing economy after spending 787 billion dollars he swore would fix it.

Posted by: dashriprock | October 19, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Calling Fox the "propaganda arm of the Republican Party" dignifies Fox way to much and cheapens the Republican Party that they can be bought for tabloid media attention.

Posted by: tniederberger | October 19, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Somebody had to say it, so good for the White House. Everyone privately knew that FOX wasn't really news, but now that someone has come out and said it loudly in public, everyone can stop pretending and just watch (or not) for the fun of it.

Posted by: dwhitebread | October 19, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

The "Annointed One" has given Fox News the best gift for a boost to their ratings they will ever receive.

I bet Rupert Murdoch is kissing a picture of Obama at this very second.

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Posted by: oldnova | October 19, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Fox News - just entertainment. They cannot be taken seriously and so how can they or their viewers gripe about being called out? Their advertisers will suffer for it. Their viewers are naive and misinformed.

Posted by: larry9 | October 19, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

To quote the author of this mess: "administration officials are stupid to pick such a silly fight". Give this woman some credit - she can actually see that administration officials are stupid....and petty. When you don't agree with them, they try to diminish the critic. It shows that the truth does hurt. Grow up you people in the White House. You have no spine.

Posted by: PittAlum | October 19, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Howl on, Fox! And keep up the great work, too. You got Otrauma and the neocommie frat boys with their panties seriously knotted and moving north at an amazing rate. I don't care if they never come on and answer real questions. They are collective toast in 2010/12 and the less we see of them the better. The mustache, the ballarina, and the Mao lovers can all go take a flying leap and we'll all be better off for it. Howl on Fox!!! Run it up the highest flag pole and let the sissies at 1600 hit the fainting couch en mass.

Posted by: MDDem1 | October 19, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

BigHustla - you're a complete and utter moron! More from the party of tolerance! And a complete representation of Obama and his constituency of the left!

Posted by: hdroadkingpd | October 19, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm retired so I have plenty of time to watch and/or listen to TV and frankly I have Fox on all day. I must say I don't hear any whinning. On the contrary, they see their ratings moving up huge numbers, and are overjoyed. They don't understand why an administration would go after them in much a visible, overt manner, trying folks to tune in to "take a look" and staying... They /Fox/ are mystified by the tactic but they are loving it.. I check the evening befores ratings every day and any one of the Fox folks from Glenn , to Shephard, to Brett to O'Reilly to Hannity to Greta. If you take all the angry MSNBC ratings combined, any ONE of the above have better ratings then the whole MSNBC gang with room to spare. How unhappy could Fox be..

Posted by: james_m_reilly1 | October 19, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Just as it is stupid for Obama to pick this fight, it would be stupid for Fox to ignore it.

Every week reveals another bizarre past statement by someone close to Obama, most recently his communications director praised Mao. Fox is the only network reporting it, that's why Obama wants to demonize them.

Posted by: alstl | October 19, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

obama doesn't like Fox because they are exposing him, if you don't get it, you don't get it.

Posted by: highwaybluesoccer | October 19, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

What I find disturbing is the administration's blatant attempt to squelch criticism. This is truly frightening. Instead of debating issues, they engage in full frontal attacks!
They aren't fooling anyone.
Chicago on the Potomac won't work. They can get away with their thuggery in Chicago, but the rest of the nation won't stand for it.
They demonize and attack any opposition, and that's OK?
This started with Joe the Plumber, folks. Wake up America. Let's take our country back before these radicals ruin it for good. We can't count on the mainstream press to report the facts. They are part of the problem.

Posted by: thinker16 | October 19, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Fox "news" runs stories about Ayers 24-7, it's commentators compare health care reform to Nazi euthanasia, even the "Maoist" quote by the White House spokesperson is framed like something right out of a political ad. In typical Fox fashion they abandon the context!

I'm reminded too of a story that I saw on their morning show several months ago where they talked about the Employee Free Choice Act. In standard Fox fashion they highlighted the $100 million that labor groups are spending lobbying on the issue, but they completely omitted the $200 million weighed in on the other side against EFCA by business groups. On top of it they framed opposition to EFCA as "protecting" workers . Anyone who has even a cursory understanding of the legislation, understands that the legislation gives workers a lot more leverage than they currently have -- it addresses some major inequities that have crept into labor markets in recent decades. Fox never went into the ways that companies slow walk unionization efforts after they've been petitioned by workers, or the various forms of intimidation that employers years.

Generally cable news sucks -- it's hard to think of any real significant stories that cable has actually broken. They don't invest in real investigative reporting (and no what Glenn Beck does ISN'T investigative reporting -- the guy hasn't spent two weeks working a beat in his life; his "journalistic" training was as a disc jockey).

While the White House move might drive some more geriatrics to get a regular Fox News fix; it's going to only continue to further marginalize the party for which it has aligned itself in a death embrace. The "most popular new channel on cable" represents fewer than 4 million viewers during any given hour. It's entertainment for nutjobs and people who previously got their news from right-wing radio and super-market tabloids.

Posted by: JPRS | October 19, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Anytime the left can't handle the truth, they label it "entertainment". Rush is an "entertainer". Beck is an "entertainer". Now Fox is "entertainment". Then the mainstream media follows with the same message. We'll be treated to this same dumbed down argument in every major newspaper's editorial section and on all the mainstream media's "news" programs. (this will actually be "the news")
They are so transparent it's almost funny.
I keep asking myself every day: Do they think we are all stupid?!
Evidently, they do. Trouble for them is that many of us get it.
This administration grabbed control of our government while some people were asleep at the wheel. But I think people are catching on everyday. The administration's strong armed (and odd) attack will actually hasten that. Their fannies are showing for all of us to see!

Posted by: thinker16 | October 19, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

thinker16,

Limbaugh himself and people within the GOP have called him an "entertainer". It wasn't people on the left, or right who first applied the label to him.

Fox is "entertainment" based on standards of objective reporting. By and large it doesn't act like a news organization. It doesn't invest heavily in reporting. It invests primarily in commentary.

Objective reporting means that you shoot things straight -- you don't push an agenda. Anyone who looks at Fox's programming with a half-way critical eye can see the dishonest framing that they use.

The channel is run by a guy, Roger Ailes, who was a REPUBLICAN AD MAN. If you think advertising is journalism, then you are at best a useful idiot. Of course, Fox isn't "News".

No one with any understanding of journalism or issues before Congress -- many of which can get pretty complex -- would mistake Fox for a "news" organization.

It has essentially a two hour news program in the night that tilts right-ward. The other 22 hours the network has no standards of accountability or truth telling. Something like the Dan Rather firing would never happen at Fox -- it's not because Ratheresque errors don't happen at Fox. It's because Fox doesn't care when it gets caught in a lie! It does it out of a matter of habit. It has no respect for the intelligence of its audience.

It's no accident either that Fox has become a revolving door for GOP officials and commentators. So you get people like Huckabee, Rove, Perino et al finding a home at Fox after their time in government. There's no attempt at balance -- not even the kind of "false balance" or "he said, she said" journalism that passes for objectivity in some mainstream outlets.

Posted by: JPRS | October 19, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Fox News was Cheney's favorite mouthpiece. Fox News pounded on the war drums for the invasion of Iraq. Fox News made all the other TV stations follow suit.

It is lethal to America, lies, lies lies...

And the people who swallow those lies, are ignorant dumbos, dumbos, dumbos...

Posted by: FedUp1 | October 19, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Is this author for real? Oh, my land.

Posted by: InHarmsWay | October 19, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Jo-Ann, I'd say, given the reactions you've brought forth, your observations are fair and balanced. ;-)

Well said. Time for all of us to become adults.

Posted by: dabonner | October 19, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Is this author for real? Oh, my land.

Posted by: InHarmsWay | October 19, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

I have to say I am surprised The Obama Administration is taking this stance AND being vocal about it. The way to go about this is to just refuse every time they ask for an interview. The message will be sent without saying a word. Of course they would then be ripped by Fox for refusing interviews. At least this way they are out front and honest about their reasons.
As a former videographer for a local news station I'm not impressed by either side on this issue. Yellow journalism on one side, and yellow bellies on the other.

Posted by: ripper368 | October 20, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Fox is a 24/7 propaganda channel. The white house reps were right - it's an honest assessment of fox programming.

It's funny, those at fox that consistently whine - and in becks case, cry about the horrors of Nazism are using the same tactics the nazi's used.

And the lemmings flock. Go figure. Just callin' 'em like they see 'em.

Posted by: notfooledbydistractions | October 20, 2009 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Fox didn't begin this "war." The White House thugs needed to create a diversion from Obama dithering on Afghanistan and from the health-care debacle.

Posted by: judithod | October 20, 2009 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Peter28 | October 19, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

"The ratings at Fox news are soaring..."

Peter - the ratings "are soaring" for Dancing with the Stars also, that doesn't make it quality programming.

Posted by: notfooledbydistractions | October 20, 2009 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Even the Bush admin did not close out NBC/MSNBC. The Obama admin is way too thin skinned on this. All the networks have so-called perspectives as Rombo put it on CNN this weekend. This is such a joke and completely foolish politics. No way they continue the boycott past the end of Oct. If they do, they are dumber than I thought.

(I still can't believe that they are doing this. It looks so petty especially when juxtaposed with the multiple network biases (or "perspectives") pitted against Bush. How about going on the shows and winning over the pursuadables by presenting your ideas? Too difficult I guess for this bunch!)

Posted by: sagedutch | October 20, 2009 12:56 AM | Report abuse

The commentary by folks here is so sad. Most comments are rather angry and intolerant. People apparently can't accept the fact that there are different world views. Fox News is like talk radio; they have their view of the world. But so do ALL news outlets. If you get your news from one news outlet, you have a very narrow view. I feel so sorry for some of the folks; they obviously don't understand that EVERYONE has a different view; NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN...if you carefully analyze what their approach to the news, you can tell what their politics are. The slant they put on the story, and even what stories they choose to select. If you're not aware of where they're coming from, I regretfully and respectfully have to inform you that you're not very bright.

Posted by: eeterrific | October 20, 2009 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Fox isn't whining, they are loudly pointing out that President Barack Obama is trying to destroy America's freedoms by attempting to take control of the press. The last straw come Sunday when David Axelrod and Rolm Emanuel, speaking on competing networks, made veiled threats to all of the media if they do not toe Obama's line they can also expect to be attacked.

The Pew Research Organization, one of the nation's most highly respected polling and research groups, has determined that Fox News is the most honest and least biased of the major networks. Why would the Obama Administration be attacking Fox if they have nothing to hide?

On the other hand, Pew also reported that MSNBC is the least honest and most biased of all of the news networks, yet the White house continues to praise them.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it.

Posted by: mike85 | October 20, 2009 2:04 AM | Report abuse

The President shows great courage in confronting the right-wing bullies that make up Rupert Murdoch's propaganda outlet for the republican party. Fox "News" is not a news outlet but a republican party noise machine. Fox "News" attacks the President of the United States 24 hours a day with Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Mike Huckabee, Brit Hume, Fred Barnes, Charles Krauthammer, Juan Williams, Bill O'Reilly, Steve Doocey, Brian Kilmead and a parade of forgettable women with skirts raised and legs crossed.

Most of those purporting to chastize the administration for standing up to these right wing Rupert Murdoch media bullies seem to have missed the point here. Fox is not a news organization but a propaganda outlet for Roger Ailes and the republican party and the White House seems to be saying they will allow administration officials to push back against Murdoch's lies, propaganda and racism.

Despite the republican slobbering in the morning by Joe Scarbough and the phony undercover republican Mika Brezinski on MSNBC, the President is right to give a smackdown to these big-mouthed right wing republican bullies.

Posted by: DCSage | October 20, 2009 2:13 AM | Report abuse

The posters here do realize that people are entitled to their opinions right. Even if Fox is a 'Republican' media outlet the Obama administration should talk to them. Didn't Obama campaign on a platform of talking to everybody? Lol the white house will talk to the President of Iran but not Bill O'Reilly. Yeah that makes alot of sense.

Obama is not getting any worse coverage from Fox than Bush and the Republicans in congress get from MSNBC.

Posted by: DCDave11 | October 20, 2009 3:07 AM | Report abuse

Fox is not whining. They are asking journalistic questions that Obama and his administration are ingnoring because they don't have answers.
Glenn Beck has offered to correct any errors in his statements if the White House would call and correct him. No one has called because Glenn is speaking the truth.

Posted by: SusanfromPA | October 20, 2009 3:20 AM | Report abuse

FOXNEWS IS FOXNOISE plain and simple!! The people behind Foxnoise are all right-wing gooks and simply the mouthpiece of the crazy right-wing nuts known only as republicans!!

I never considered FOXNOISE as serious news!!

Posted by: maripil | October 20, 2009 3:30 AM | Report abuse

Simple -- if Fox is spilling lies and defaming, then sue them for defamation. A judge will look at the facts and laugh you out of court. If Fox was inaccurate, you know other media outlets would be pointing this out in a heartbeat, but they can't so they just try to treat Fox like a little gnat.

As it stands, the White House / Obama cannot refute the facts Fox puts forth and the public listens! Fox has something the other media idiots don't. There's a huge market for TRUTH and Conservative message and America is tuning in! See Fox's ratings.

No one can escape or refute the truth. Conservatives and moderate America who stupidly voted for Obama are not fooled and the consequences will be more red states in 2010 and 2012! Just keep whining Obama and Dunn. How do you think you'll deal with a republican contress and senate? You can't get your stupid extreme agenda passed when the public punishes the congress and media.

Posted by: datasleuth | October 20, 2009 4:16 AM | Report abuse

Fox isn't whining.

Fox is making money!

Posted by: fenoy | October 20, 2009 4:50 AM | Report abuse

Fox whining?? I watch Fox regularly and they do have this smirk about this...I reckon it comes from the fact that their ratings are through the roof...
Obama should go there and make friends...Hell he wants to go to Iran ( who is responsible for the death of many American soldiers) and make peace....
Why not starting at home??

Posted by: huntyrella | October 20, 2009 5:50 AM | Report abuse

It seems to me that a lot of people on this Post watches FOX News more than they would like to admit, could it be that you are also getting sick of a President that does not have an honest bone in his body.
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To Fox News:

But ya are, Blanche, ya are a biased propaganda machine not deserving of any serious American's attention!

Posted by: jamshark70 | October 19, 2009 2:50 PM
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Jamshark I am not sure you know what a propaganda machine is, did you not watch the one line Presidential Candidate of our current President, he kept saying over & over that The USA was the best place on earth & in the next breath he says he was going to CHANGE everything.

Well he has; we are in a constant turmoil, the White House slugs are still trying to convince us that they are so great that they can WALK ON WATER everyone of them. Give me a break, The Obama administration’s war on Fox News is dumb on multiple levels. It makes the White House look weak, unable to think for themselves; they just react and not very well at that.

He has never quit campaigning to became the President, he whines about Bush (not a Fan of HIS) leaving him a mess. He knew; are should have known that the Country was in a mess when he started running for President since he was in the Democratic controled Congress that put us in this shape with a lot of help from Bush!

This "Democrat" is sick of the way everyone is trying to tear this country apart with a load of help from Obama. I only started watching FOX NEWS because so many people as well as Obama was whining about them, I am deeply thankful for you turning me on to FOX NEWS. They are the only NEWS that does not sugar coat everything Obama says & does.

I just knew Obama would make a wonderful President, but his mistakes, his indecision, constant Campaigning, Whinning, his changing the truth around to fit his agenda is so stupid that it makes this once fan, a devout critec that Fact Check before I believe Obama, his staff, FOX NEWS, ABC, NBC, CNBC, or any other News Net work.

I wish Obama would do the same!


Posted by: wildfire1946 | October 20, 2009 6:49 AM | Report abuse

Fox "News" is nothing more than a propaganda network, and the really stupid thing is, everyone knows it, so why dance around the issue. The WH is only stating what is blatantly obvious. They're not trying to censor Fox, shut them down, or even refuse to go on any of their programs. What is really unfortunate is that people who get their information from Fox are dangerously misinformed and don't even know it. That is bad for the country. Fox has ceased to be a rational player and refuses to deal in facts. The WH is right in pointing it out. When Bush was president, despite his many failures, they never had an unkind word. Many in Bush's administration refused to appear on other networks. Now we have a Democrat in the WH and it's one constant hate fest and witch hunt directed at this administration. Fox needs to stop whining. They just don't like that someone is finally pointing out to the public what they really are.

Posted by: ggwalt | October 20, 2009 6:58 AM | Report abuse

Jo-Ann...it sounds like you are whining. Unlike the Right-wing media that hides behind being "objective" or Liberals that hide behind being "progressive", at least everyone knows FOX is on the Right wing side of the news. Look at the predominant editorial writers and cartoonists for the Post, they sure have a Left wing agenda. Actually, I'm tired of the labels. Let Americans pick who they want to hear. The problem appears that the Left Wing feels threatened by the popularity. As for the Administration, Jo-Ann is corrrect. They are being petty and childish.

Posted by: rhino2 | October 20, 2009 6:58 AM | Report abuse

One of the things I find so amusing is that you can always tell when people get their "news" from Fox. They all talk about the exact same trumped up ridiculous stories. Currently, it's Obama's czars, ACORN, and Van Jones. None of these matter a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things, particularlly when one considers what's going no both nationally and internationally. The so-called "czar" gate is totally bogus, since every administration since at least Nixon has appointed "czars", including Bush, who had plenty. The ACORN story was completely overblown, as was the story on Van Jones. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

Posted by: ggwalt | October 20, 2009 7:08 AM | Report abuse

Lessons to be learned (and not ignored) from history:

Hitler demanded to be heard, too.

Is it supposed to be a secret or something, that Rupert Murdoch is a fas. cist?

Posted by: thesuperclasssux | October 20, 2009 7:10 AM | Report abuse

The reason that FOX reports that the WH is attacking FOX, is because the WH will like to control the entire media.
The rest of the MEDIA SHOUL BE SCARE THAT THE W.H.IS GOING THE WAY THAT DICTATOR DO, CONTROL AND OPPRESS TH MEDIA TO GAIN POWER.
REMEMBER OBAMA CAMPAIGN CONTROLLED THE MEDIA by not doing interviews, only given the media what they wanter to be printed

Posted by: jimmie3132 | October 20, 2009 7:28 AM | Report abuse

ggwalt
But the czars of this administration are communist, socialist,
getting their info and support from Mao???
research all of them and see what inside the WH
We are going in the direction of a Dictatorship....WAKE UP

Posted by: jimmie3132 | October 20, 2009 7:32 AM | Report abuse

And another modern conservo institution fades into obscurity. Not a moment too soon. Once they lost their monopoly on government installation TV screens it was only a matter of time.

Posted by: washpost18 | October 20, 2009 7:59 AM | Report abuse

and...the Washington Post should START reporting.

Posted by: jobro2 | October 20, 2009 8:11 AM | Report abuse

The Obama campaign's press strategy leading up to his election last November focused on "making" the media cover what the campaign wanted and on exercising absolute "control" over coverage, White House Communications Director Anita Dunn told an overseas crowd early this year.

In a video of the event, Dunn is seen describing in detail the media strategy used by then-Sen. Barack Obama's highly disciplined presidential campaign. The video is footage from a Jan. 12 forum hosted by the Global Foundation for Democracy and Development in the Dominican Republic.

"Very rarely did we communicate through the press anything that we didn't absolutely control," Dunn said, admitting that the strategy "did not always make us popular in the press."

The video drew attention after Dunn kicked off a war of words with Fox News last Sunday, calling the network "opinion journalism masquerading as news." The White House stopped providing guests to "Fox News Sunday" in August after host Chris Wallace fact-checked controversial assertions made by Tammy Duckworth, assistant secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs.

Dunn complained about the fact-checking last Sunday. In the January forum, she provided details about the lengths to which the Obama campaign went to control the media message.

She explained that the campaign favored live interviews so that Obama's words could not be edited -- "so that what the voters heard we determined, as opposed to some editor in a TV station."

She said Campaign Manager David Plouffe put out Web videos so the campaign could avoid talking to reporters and focus the media message.

"Whether it was a David Plouffe video or an Obama speech, a huge part of our press strategy was focused on making the media cover what Obama was actually saying as opposed to why the campaign was saying it," she said. "One of the reasons we did so many of the David Plouffe videos was not just for our supporters, but also because it was a way for us to get our message out without having to actually talk to reporters. ... We just put that out there and made them write what Plouffe had said as opposed to Plouffe doing an interview with a reporter. So it was very much we controlled it as opposed to the press controlled it."

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Typical Republican behavior: whine, whine, whine... Do these people ever grow up and take responsibility for their own actions?

Posted by: Gatsby10 | October 20, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Fox News has operated outside the realm of journalism. They create fake controversies and then report them as news. Just look at the tea bagger goons.

Roger Ailes is a right wing propagandist and the White House called Fox out on it. Bravo!

Posted by: tbranen | October 20, 2009 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Last time I checked, FOX didn't send two top staffers onto Sunday shows to whine that the White House is illegitimate and should be ignored -- Posted by: Truth6

They don't have to - they spend all of their talking head time whining that President Obama is illegitimate. When they're not violating all tenants of responsible journalism they're outright lying in their chyrons.

Posted by: washpost18 | October 20, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Food for thought. http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067

Posted by: washpost18 | October 20, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Not finishing high school, overuse of drugs, getting pregnant in your teens, having a brood of 8 children when you can't even pay your rent for yourself, THAT makes you stupid. Oh, wait, that's generally the group that votes left.....sorry.
Posted by: lostcause227 | October 19, 2009 3:29 PM
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Lecturing on the use of words and assuming that they were used in the manner you assumed they were being used and contributing certain actions to be the bailiwick of the left doesn't sound to bright to me.

Isn't speaking down to people the job of the elite's?


Posted by: ORNOT | October 20, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Whining? I think Fox must be thrilled with the Presidential level attention.

Posted by: edfromtexas | October 20, 2009 8:38 AM | Report abuse

As a regular viewer of the Fox Cable Network, I wouldn't want Obama, or any of his radically driven, lying lackeys, to appear on this network. Saul Alinski would be very proud of msnbc,nbc,cbs,abc, for following his script.

Posted by: khm53 | October 20, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

"Fox" reeks of GOP. its the only way they are heard. otherwise, noone would pay any mind. sure they're hurt. they failed miserably the last 8 yrs. now they need someone to smear so people dont get the real truth. its like the national enquirer, only a stupid channel that should be cancelled off. its filled with nothing but trash reporters.

Posted by: jaimenino | October 20, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Obama Aide: 'We Controlled' the Press

Communications director brags about Obama campaign's strategy to make media cover only what they wanted

then after you get control of the press,you will get control of the people...

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Actually, I think the Obama administration has effectively made a point, that Fox is a right-wing conservative ideological organization busy attacking anything he does. No news takes place there. Who cares if he takes a little heat for sluffing them off?

Posted by: dudh | October 20, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

I would be far, far more impressed if the Administration were to take it a step further and pull FOX News's White House press credentials.

Posted by: kemp13 | October 20, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Wondering how the spinless reporters with the Washington Post feel about being controlled by the obama administration....

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/14/larry-klayman-conservativ_n_321080.html


Really? Now there is an unbaised website.

Posted by: supersonic2 | October 20, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

It's the President who needs to stop whining. What causes him to imagine that in the United States of America, under the United States Constitution, it is up to the White House to decide which news organizations are "legitimate" and which are not? He needs to re-read the First Amendment and then he needs to man up. If he is too thin-skinned to bear criticism, he is too weak for the job and should not have run for office.

Posted by: MrsWhatsit | October 20, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

never thought to see the day when dirty rotten thievery gangster politics from chicago would take over Washington.D.C.

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

"It now takes $1043 to buy an ounce of gold, whereas it took $759 to buy that same ounce when Obama was elected. It costs $79 today to buy a barrel of oil vs $38 when he took office. Our dollar is crumbling like an old dry cookie, we have a 9.8% unemployment rate, are fighting two wars, one of which is being escalated, and are adding $5 billion per DAY to our national debt.

And what is the this administration doing? They have picked a fight with a News organization. The enemy's that way Obama-look toward Afghanistan and Pakistan."

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And therein lies the problem - people like you and Faux news don't want to go near any discussion as to why Obama is facing these problems. You won't admit his job has been made very difficult as a result of the misguided direction of the Bush Administration which of course, Faux News ralleied behind selling vertually everything he said - calling those who did not "unamerican". If that's not "an arm of the Republican party" I don't know what is.

Then they and their viewers proudly take credit for "outing" ACORN a valuable group for the disadvantaged in this country (who BTW have received a mere 50 million dollars in the past 15 years of government aid for the good work they do) demand they be taken off the government contractor list. At the same time, we have government contractors (Boeing, Lockeed etc) who have taken BILLIONS, and been fined BILLIONS for inappropriate and fradulent actions - where's the outrage there? Does Faux and it's viewers think the disadvantaged in this country do not deserve representation?

The reason they went after ACORN is the association ACORN has had with this president - who worked for the disadvantaged in Chicago prior to his political life. It was not coincidence and it wasn't about ACORN, it was about Obama - anything they can do to make him look bad and to reinforce their viewers that yes indeed, Obama is BAD! A socialist, Hitler like - be afraid, be very afraid.

This is NOT journalism folks it's feeding the sharks chum to attract them and work them into a frinzy. These sharks are hungry to feed their hate - their discontent - "I want MY country back" (what ever the hell that means). As if this country doen't have enough problems with the economy and lack of job.

Got any suggestions as to how to HELP? NO! Just like the political party Faux represent no solutions - critize, critize but no solutions. As a favorite old boss of mine always said, "don't bring me problems, bring me solutions". Good advise - made me a better thinker and problem solver. I never brought him a problem without proposing a solution.


Posted by: Kathy5 | October 20, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Fox is not news. It is misinformation
distributed with a great deal of money
behind it.
The "anchors" which are not at all,don't even remotely resemble one- just drone on and on about whichever twist they can take of a statement by obama or democrats and keep the same thing on for hours and hours. This has nothing to do with fair reporting. All "guests" have the same views and re-confirm each others views. Very few ads target the young they all seem to target elderly conservative voters. A shrinking base. I am sure Cronkite found your "show" amusing indeed.
Have Bill Moyers on- and behave yourselves and don't reduce yourselves
trying to outscreaming him.You all are the antipithaty of his entire life's work. You are all sold out for money.In interviewees
with opposing views You people take on the appearance a prosecuting attorney grilling a criminal in a cheap made for t.v. courtrooom drama. There is no decorum, it
becomes repulsive. It is only entertainment
nothing else.
Fox is not whining it is just another marketing ploy created by them! As if the pres. would even take note of a bunch of talking heads and give them his time. HE only knows them for what they are. They are like the kindergardener that misbehaves for attention.
The format for fox news is no more viable as a news source than the PTL club.
Simply-- because it is identical.
First the "anchor" "reports" some "news"
and then raves and the the camera pans over to the "authority" (Pat Robertson) who reiterates what was just said to lend it some veracity through sagacity and authority.
The similarity is so transparent it is hilarious I sometimes turn it on while I am painting a room or working around the house just as a diversion like listening to a.m. radio, not to be taken at all seriously- just for some white noise- amusement to see how creative deception can be. It is comical. An open tel.line to the white house? As if Obama would talk to some of these jokers? C'mon. Start an open line to Joe the plumber and stop trying to lend yourselves some credibility through such a manufactured association.
You might as well begin asking for cash donations.
Sean Hannity is the Hulk Hogan of pro cable news as Falwel was of pro-religion.

Posted by: huckstered | October 20, 2009 9:30 AM | Report abuse

This one is different. It's not "Nixonian" as another "columnist" put it.
Nixon would say the typical "they're not being fair to me" or even claim "liberal bias," and then sic the IRS on selected people to make sure they got the message. The Constitution taking the brunt of Nixon's paranoia and criminality.

Now, is something completely different. You have a president who flat out in public and without guile or deception says that FOX News is putting out untruthful information about him.

FOX News' protests are interesting and different, too. They're not protesting being cut off as much as protesting Obama's characterization that they are not a news-gathering outfit. Obama hit a nerve apparently. Why would FOX try so hard to prove that it actually collects and broadcasts the news?

Obama's accusations are unique in American history. To any other news outlet the accusation that they are not a news outlet would seem outlandish. The Wall Street Journal is positively and unabashedly conservative. Yet, there would be laughing around the country if a public official were to even suggest that the WSJ's news pages (its edit page is another thing entirely) were not news, but some kind of propaganda.

What is remarkable is that Obama's accusation has stuck. FOX may protest too much that it's somehow not true, but it has had enough traction to stick around.

It has stuck around only because in the broad mass of American people, the accusation is seen as having some truth to it.

And that is probably because it is true, to some very real extend. And therefore is not a laughable accusation, but a truthful one, which stings.

That we're even talking about it all acknowledges that there is something not right about the FOX product. That is does not have that self-evident ring of factual news.

If FOX News was news, this discussion would have never happened.

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | October 20, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

This is all just a warm up for the "Fairness (Censorship) Doctrine".

Posted by: jahs4fun | October 20, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

We don't here FOX whinning at all. We just see FOX showing You-tube videos of all the left-wingers that are hold up in the White House.

I believe it's the White House that's whinning, don't Axerod and Rahm work for "the installed one" ?

Posted by: allenridge | October 20, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I find it odd that you say in your last line you are not whining but in fact rereading your article it is all about whining. Just one thought here from a retired teacher; watch out for Thursdays vote when we will see Obama have the FCC under Czar Lloyd deciding to censor the internet and the airwaves in America. Can anyone say Mao, Lenin, Chaves, Castro or Ortega.

Posted by: pechins | October 20, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Why does the Obamas not like Fox......its plain and simple ....The truth hurts.....


Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

much ado about nothing.

Posted by: amused9 | October 20, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

The statements by the White House regarding Fox News are much more revealing about the Obama administration than about Fox News.

Posted by: JohnRice | October 20, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I find it odd that you say in your last line you are not whining but in fact rereading your article it is all about whining. Just one thought here from a retired teacher; watch out for Thursdays vote when we will see Obama have the FCC under Czar Lloyd deciding to censor the internet and the airwaves in America. Can anyone say Mao, Lenin, Chaves, Castro or Ortega.

Posted by: pechins | October 20, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse


Oh yes......that Czar Lloyd,,,I saw the article on Fox where he said he admired The Chavez Revolution...So after the obamas then take over airwaves.....NEWSPAPERS...banks..hospitals and insurance and BIG OIL IS NEXT IN THEIR SIGHTS....and everthing else that they can get...then we'll be like socialist...does that sound about right to you people out there?

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

This isn't the Obama Administration declaring war on the puppet, Fox News, but on the puppet master Rupert Murdoch.

Posted by: rcupps | October 20, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

I think the saying is "Stop me when I start lying". Of all of the resources at hand in the msm, you'd think that there would be a tremendous amount of reporting on the lies Fox has told. .... what, no one has found anything against Fox that was a lie??? Not even whne they claimed Van Jones was a communist?? How about the school czar and his radical beliefs??... wait.. i know there's one in here somewhere.

Let's face it, whether you like Bush or not, he didn't "wrestle with a pig". Unless fox is telling lies about these things (in which cas4e the msm should be doing their jobs), the President should be above it and tell his staff the same thing. Treat them as you would any other news organization and get on with the job of running the country. This is time wasted that could be better spent.

One last thought. If President Obama agrees that there should be some sort of government intervention on behalf of newspaper (since very few people really read printed papers any longer), would that mean that the Post would be even more biased than it is now? Eugen Meyer is rolling over in his grave over this. Kay Graham fought harder to report the truth about LBJ and Nixon than anyone at the Post has even dreamed of fighting a President lately (Pentagon Papers, Watergate). "Seven Principles by Which to Run a Newspaper" my rear end

Posted by: thensell | October 20, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

"I think everyone knows who the idiots look like in this fight. And it's not anyone at Fox.

When Helen Thomas, the New York Times and even The Nation (of all places) says the White House is the petty one, that's something I like to call "bipartisan agreement."

Grow up White House. This isn't the kiddie pool and it's not t-ball where everyone who plays should get a trophy. And even though you'd like it to be, it's also not Chicago politics where you can intimidate people into toeing your line.

Face criticism like adults or get out. "

No where on the news did the "liberal media" give real weight to conspiracy theories during the Bush administration - when I believe much of this real polarization occured - rather they wrote those people off as loonies (Truthers, War for Oil). The difference is that Fox News gives equal weight to the looniest of ideas and mixes them in there with the plausible criticisms as if these arguments are on equal footing. I'm not an Obama cheerleader. I like the guy, don't get me wrong, but I am uneasy with the quickness that they want to push things through without giving FAIR fact-finding time to do it's work. What I understand is that they are fighting against people that are foaming at the mouth for a variety of reasons. Do you really think that the label of "socialist" would stick as easily to a white Democratic President who wanted to enact the same policies?! The problem is that Fox News is truly riling up the folks that would love to kill this President and they are doing nothing to quell this anger; rather, they are stirring the pot. I would not give an interview to a network if their aim was to try to trap my answers into edited soundbites to fit an ideology. Liberal as they are, MSNBC and CNN play clips that are unflattering to Obama, but they do not give forums to people that would kill this President.

Posted by: SteadyState | October 20, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

DID YOU NOT READ: White House announced THEY control all the media = except Fox. Hmm?
So obvious, W H does not want anyone around that they do not control! Dictator thinking.
Kill the messenger! w h daily lies to public, but only Fox will show the LIE ! Yea Fox.
Leftist, O & Congress cannot stand FACTS.
INTERFEARS WITH THEIR MISSION TO CONTROL ALL CITIZENS IN ALL AREAS.

Posted by: migtex1234 | October 20, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

http://www.newsweek.com/id/218192

This really nails it. fox is hining because it fits their identity of "victims." They are so quick to point out when the vicitim card is played because that is the root of conservative identity politics. Us v "them" -- that nasty old reality based "liberal" community. that is why oreally can whine every year about a "war on Christmas" in the midst of a culture mired in Christmas and comprised of 75% self identified Christians.

Fox is a propaganda outlet. Pretneding it isn't just marks you as being either a liar or a rube. How can you seriously reconcile the statement that "we are a conservative network, therefore we are unbiased?" e are biased, therefore we are not biased?????? Are you people stupid? No answer needed - if you are conservative i is a given.

Posted by: John1263 | October 20, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Fox is whining all the way to the bank (and increased viewership) and is just sitting back playing defense while the White House attacks free speech.

Posted by: hz9604 | October 20, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like people like to live in a fantasy....like reading the newspapers that tell you......its a lovely day today...sunny all over USA with perfect temps too....the wars are going great.....wall street has reformed and they are like the weather..lovely....the banks are so friendly now....they loaning money to everyone..low intrest too and if you miss a payment..no charge....everyone is going to have hospital insurance just like your congressmen...lovely....Congressmen have approved a new 747 fully equiped for Nancy polisi to go home Friday after a lovely week in congress.....Its a lovely day now in USA.....guess what we going going to have another lovely day tomorrow ....

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

There is something newsworthy about the administrations childish, thin skinned, we'll take our ball and go home attitude.

I don't see it as whining by Fox, I see it as them pointing at Obama and saying look at this little brat! He's too immature to be presidential. His skin is too thin! The emperor has no clothes!

http://conservativelibertine.blogspot.com/2009/10/state-run-media-fox-is-not-news.html

Posted by: conservativelibertine | October 20, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Objectively speaking, Fox News is the propaganda arm of the Republican National Committee. Every minute of every day they push their right wing opinion in opposition to everything the elected left wing government does and says. Uneducated and isolated Americans (who are Fox News's avid viewers) have their immutable opinion of those who run the country from Washington. The only thing Washington does right is get Our Country involved in unwinnable wars so boys can grow up to be young men who valiantly go off to war for God and Country. It's like a football game -- only bigger. Collecting taxes, organizing Medicare, bailing out banks, and running the criminal justice system are all a colossal waste of money, in their uninformed opinion. From their cold, dead hands.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | October 20, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Fox should stop whining...
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The WH needs to learn how to show leadership to the nation and the world and quit acting like they are bullies. Show some class at some point in time and the world may take you more seriously.

Posted by: zendrell | October 20, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

I love Fox News because it pisses off so many liberals.

Two wars, a crumbling currency, radical islamic nuclear proliferation, crushing debt, Soviet & Chinese bullying, double-digit unemployement, Healthcare Reform.

And this President chooses to go after FNC because they dent his ego from time to time.

It's truly amateur hour at 1600 Penna Ave.


Posted by: NCvotingGOP | October 20, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Of course right wingers see no problem with Fox. Fox provides the opium and m orphine for their addiction to sensationalism. Fox considers themselvfes the "designated driver" for the car-load of right wingers who are drunk on their own ideology. Stop hitting the booze and maybe the world be appear a bit clearer to you.


Posted by: ScottChallenger | October 20, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

"We are coming to the end of the first year of O. What will we be talking about in 2010?

Will we use an O-meter to measure our progress?

Why define a period of time by a presidency or one man? Is not our technological revolution more important in shaping who we are?

Why are we Post-racial and not Post-Katrina?"

-Ethelbert Miller

Posted by: averddy | October 20, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

fox is not whinning, its winning.
for some reason boy hussein and his possie have decided that fox is the bad guy and started a war with it.
well fox is fighting back and dear leader and its running dogs on the left - like the author of this trash piece in wapo - cant stand that they are losing and fox is winning.
get used to it lefty. your deal leader is like a child in a room full of adults and he gets mad because they dont listen to him.

Posted by: infantry11b4faus | October 20, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I don't think FOX can be considered a news outlet. It's more like a continuous GOP political infommercial. Does anyone take them seriously?

Posted by: sux123 | October 20, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I love Fox News because it pisses off so many liberals. Posted by: NCvotingGOP

I like FOXNEWS because, time after time, it confirms I'm superior to cons.

Posted by: Emmetrope | October 20, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like people like to live in a fantasy....like reading the newspapers that tell you......its a lovely day today...sunny all over USA with perfect temps too....the wars are going great.....wall street has reformed and they are like the weather..lovely....the banks are so friendly now....they loaning money to everyone..low intrest too and if you miss a payment..no charge....everyone is going to have hospital insurance just like your congressmen...lovely....Congressmen have approved a new 747 fully equiped for Nancy polisi to go home Friday after a lovely week in congress.....Its a lovely day now in USA.....guess what we going going to have another lovely day tomorrow ....

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse


people that don't live in a fantasy read.... Fox News...Bad Weather different pats of USA today....Wall street giving out billions in bonuses again.......Soldiers still getting killed in Iraq and afganistan...wars not gong well....banks not lending money...hoarding it......25 to 40 million will not have hospital insurance after reform.....Nancy polisi not getting airplane she wanted...we think she should ride coach like ordinary people......congressmen getting much better health care than citizens.......bad weather over parts if USA tomorrow....outlook on all things above not very good....

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Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

fox is not whinning, its winning.
for some reason boy hussein and his possie have decided that fox is the bad guy and started a war with it.
well fox is fighting back and dear leader and its running dogs on the left - like the author of this trash piece in wapo - cant stand that they are losing and fox is winning.
get used to it lefty. your deal leader is like a child in a room full of adults and he gets mad because they dont listen to him.

Posted by: infantry11b4faus

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"Your deal (I think you meant dear) leader is like a chile in a room full of adults . . . . . . " watch out now this is going to hurt - HE'S YOUR LEADER TOO! Ha ha ha ha - don't you just love it?! I had to accept GWB as my leader even with the rot be brought to the WH - now it's time for you to man up and accept our presidents legitimate place and give him the respect he deserves as such.

BTW - your reference to our president as "boy hussein" is VERY telling. Maybe it's not his policies after all, could be it's him? Just sayin.

Posted by: Kathy5 | October 20, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

'Urkle' seems to be the one whining...he's never been critized in his community organizing life.

He's also too unexperienced and naive to realize this actually helps FOX News attract new viewers.

This adminstration would be better served spending time creating jobs for this country instead of whining about Fox News.

Posted by: seawolfR | October 20, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I much prefer fux news to faux news. It is both phoenetically closer and closer to the truth.

Only conservatives could possibly be so stupid as to accept the fux argument that being biased is what makes them unbiased.

Also love how conservatives "prove" that fux news is not the opposition party mouthpiece by saying the Presdient is trying to silence the opposition.

And no, i don't ever expect that a conservative would understand any of why that makes them into rubes. Cretins. Morons. Troglodytes. Knuckle dragging freaks.

Posted by: John1263 | October 20, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Emmetrope wrote:

"I like FOXNEWS because, time after time, it confirms I'm superior to cons."

I'm reading a lot on this blog of Liberals stating how superior you are, or how that you hold the intellectual high ground. Is that what Stuart Smalley tough you in your daily Affirmation classes.

Nothing screams out insecurity like, "I'm Superior" or "I'm smarter than You"

And nothing screams spoiled little brat like "I'm taking my ball and going home."

Posted by: NCvotingGOP | October 20, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

NC voting lists the problems of the bush administration that are currnetly being addressed, and then attributes them to President Obama. Like a true kool aid drunk fux news viewer -- two wars - one that should have been finished 6 years ago, but wasn't because bush lied to start the second. A crumbling economy -- actually in recovery after the worst administration in modern history wrecked it with help from conservatives, a health care system in a tailspin after decades of neglect by the gop, and the republicon party banding together to block reform in 1993 -- typical conservative.

And if your crteria for loving fux is that it "pisses off liberals" then that is a fine example of how shallow your thinking is, and that fux is actually a propaganda outlet for conservatives. All in one dumb arsh little quip.

What a toad.

It actually isn't that fux puts out propaganda that is the problem, it is that there are so many rubes who swallow the most obvious lies hook line and sinker. For ex:

*** FOX vs. CNN/MSNBC: Here’s another way to look at the misinformation: In our poll, 72% of self-identified FOX News viewers believe the health-care plan will give coverage to illegal immigrants, 79% of them say it will lead to a government takeover, 69% think that it will use taxpayer dollars to pay for abortions, and 75% believe that it will allow the government to make decisions about when to stop providing care for the elderly.

Posted by: John1263 | October 20, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I love Fox News because it pisses off so many liberals. -- Posted by: NCvotingGOP

So you admit Fox is not a news outlet but an entertainment source. Thanks for being honest.

Posted by: washpost18 | October 20, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

When the priorities of news outlets shifted to profits and ratings they ceased being objective and morphed into the mindless, opinionated infotainment that we are bombarded with today. We do not have news any longer, we are just being sold a product and we are ALL losers as a result of this.

Posted by: JKJ88 | October 20, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Just a side not - check out a site politicalcompass.org. They offer a multidimensional presentation of the political spectrum. A very interesting analysis of American politicians in some of their analysis. Being an objective outside source they actually get it right. There is not "left" in American politics. Centrist/rght, right, and extreme right. No left. It just doesn't exist. President Obama is far closer to reagan than he is to Clement Atlee in political ideology. Love where someone like palin falls on the charts....

Posted by: John1263 | October 20, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Just goes to show you, politicians get the most criticism when they tell the truth.

FOX news IS demonstrably the propaganda arm of the GOP. None of its biggest pundits has any thought or agenda other than damaging the president and Democrats.

Maybe the WH is being petty, but they are telling the truth.

Posted by: TonyQ82 | October 20, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Well, according to the leftist "liberals". Quite a contradictory name for a party that likes to add restrictions to every right possible.

Anyway, if it were up to the leftists, then Rush Limbaugh and FOX News would be banned.

So much for the peace-loving attitude of freedom they adore. Hyporcites.

Posted by: jmounadi | October 20, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I love the condescending, elitist tone of the Fox bashers. I watch Fox, so I guess I'm a "cretin, moron, troglodyte, knuckle-dragging, uneducated, white-trash racist hillbilly taking solace with my guns and my bible, huh?

Thank you all for enlightening us poor churls to your vast wisdom. From now on, I'll just watch Oberman and Rachel and try to stifle my gag reflex.

The simple answer to the Administration's issue with Fox is that the truth hurts.

Posted by: bilrux | October 20, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I much prefer fux news to faux news. It is both phoenetically closer and closer to the truth.

Only conservatives could possibly be so stupid as to accept the fux argument that being biased is what makes them unbiased.

Also love how conservatives "prove" that fux news is not the opposition party mouthpiece by saying the Presdient is trying to silence the opposition.

And no, i don't ever expect that a conservative would understand any of why that makes them into rubes. Cretins. Morons. Troglodytes. Knuckle dragging freaks.

Posted by: John1263 | October 20, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

u wouldn't now the truth if it jumped up and bit you on the azz

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Fox is a propaganda service for the GOP. Everyone knows this and that is why Limbaugh refers to Fox as "our network".

Why should Obama pretend that Fox is something that it isn't, i.e., a news service?

If Obama accepts Fox as legit, will he next have to agree that we found the WMD in Iraq and that Larry Craig, David Vitter, Sanford, Ensign and Mark Foley are all Democrats? Recall that Fox DID tell the rubes this in very clear terms.

Posted by: Ms_Morgan | October 20, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Where there's smoke there is fire -- and there be a lot of huffin' and puffin' going on in the White House. The truth be told -- Obama is wrapping up his first year in office with a majority mandate and Congress at his beckon and yet he has still failed to deliver. Big time failure! Thus, the White House needs something to distract us from revelation that Obama is just another naive and hapless politician who possesses nothing more that a unique set of skills to entice and persuade voters to drink from his punch bowl but who otherwise brings little change to our country beyond being able to spend money faster than any sitting president -- pushing us into a level of depth that is unimaginable and probably unsurmountable -- while appeasing despots in Sudan, Iran,Venezuela and North Korea with foreign aid and blind diplomacy.

What has he done?

Posted by: CadronBoy | October 20, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Keep whining White House and Anita (Mao) Dunn! I don't think it's working.

Live + Same Day Weekend Ratings
Cable News Ratings October 17, 2009

P2+ Total Day
FNC – 819,000 viewers
CNN – 446,000 viewers
MSNBC – 306,000 viewers
CNBC – 168,000 viewers
HLN – 256,000 viewers

P2+ Prime Time
FNC –1,190,000 viewers
CNN – 561,000 viewers
MSNBC –452,000 viewers
CNBC – 221,000 viewers
HLN – 259,000 viewers

Posted by: seawolfR | October 20, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

FOX News is to legitimate electronic journalism what the WWF is to legitimate college and olympic Wrestling.

An entertainment Farce!

It will never be anything more than that, as long as the "RU" Owns it.

When developing what was called "Hannity and Colmes," Murdock personally picked Hannity to represent the "Right," then told Hannity to go out and find someone to represent the "Left."

So Hannity came up with the most impotent former comic who-knows-what he could find to be his so-called "opponent" on the show?

Give me a break!

The Show was Hannity's all along.

Colmes has been an insult to the "left".

Mind you, not that Hannity is the brightest bulb in anyone's drawer, but to have that dim bulb pick his own "opponent" shows exactly what Murdock was looking for.

A whining resentful, and of course, angry, Right-Wing Mouthpiece to spew hatred over the airwaves every night!

So the Obama administration is so very correct in it's evaluation of the contribution FOX News makes to genuine objective news journalism.

Nothing!

Posted by: theintrepidone | October 20, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Polls consistently show how uninformed FOX news viewers are of factual reality. Not doing a very good job at presenting "news" are they?

I don't think conservatives are all troglodytes. I just think they've bought a vial of snake oil. "Watch FOX--and only FOX--for only we have the truth."

Although it must take some effort to believe that the rest of journalism, academia, science, and entertainment is in a giant conspiracy against you.

Posted by: TonyQ82 | October 20, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Most dictators close down news organizations that are critical of them...that only leaves the ones who agree with his policies...is that really what you people want...the opposition silenced....whats wrong with you people......who gives a dam whose political arm it is as long as they tell us the facts....do you want just news organizations that agree with everything they do.....what in the hell is wrong with you people...what is a president of this United States wasting time critizing a news organization...I'm quite sure theres more important things going on now that needs his attention that bring involved in something so petty...or is it

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

You know people that are crying the blues about FOX News should see the forest for the trees. When Bush screwed up by going into Iraq FOX said it was a mistake. Everytime somebody screwed up FOX was there to critizes and let them know they were wrong. FOX doesn't care who you are, if you screw up they're going to come after you. For 50 years I was a Democrat, and I changed to Republican because the last good Democrat was Roosevelt. Ask Obama why he hasn't relinqueshed his birth certificate. Because he's afraid to and FOX will bring out the truth sooner or later and I hope it's sooner.

Posted by: bpkendziora | October 20, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Every two years, the Pew Research Center looks at how people get their news. Throughout the day, we'll take a look at several facets of the latest study, which was released today.

When it comes to audience breakdown by political lines, CNN and MSNBC showed more Democrat viewers while FNC, more Republican. But the minority party viewership is much stronger at Fox News than its competitors: 33% of Fox viewers are listed as Democrats, while 18% of CNN and MSNBC viewers say they are Republicans.

2009 PRC

Posted by: seawolfR | October 20, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Who's Jo-Ann Armao and what are her qualifications to express opinions in the Washington Post?

Anybody?

Posted by: GordonShumway | October 20, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

The real whining is not coming from "Little Lord Fauntleroy" in the White House but from those people whose candidate lost the last election.

Posted by: exbrown | October 20, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Faux News is one of the pettiest groups of noise commentators I've ever heard...they poke and poke and poke and when their object of obsession pushes back they cry foul everytime. How Murdock could consider himself a serious business man and employ so many petty little boys is beyond me. It makes me sick to my stomach everytime I accidently land on their channel...pathetic is the least of the words I think of when I think of Faux Noise.

Posted by: Beingsensible | October 20, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

When it comes to audience breakdown by political lines, CNN and MSNBC showed more Democrat viewers while FNC, more Republican. But the minority party viewership is much stronger at Fox News than its competitors: 33% of Fox viewers are listed as Democrats, while 18% of CNN and MSNBC viewers say they are Republicans.
2009 PRC
Posted by: seawolfR
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That's because Democrats are more balanced; we chew our food before we swollow; while Republicans allow Faux Noise and Rush Nimnord to determine what they should think, when they should think it, and how they should react. It's just a fact that Democrats are more educated than Republicans...you can deny it, but it's a fact.

Posted by: Beingsensible | October 20, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

While he is at it, Obama will also have to take on the Wall Street Journal, London Times, Financial Times, etc., etc., etc.

Fox News has long had more viewers than all the other cable news networks, and no one watches network news anymore. More liberals and Democrats watch Fox News than any other station. Moreover, since the election, the Fox News audience has been growing even further.

I've watched Fox News for years, and I love it, and I'm among America's best and brightest—like all Fox viewers.

Every time, Obama opens his smirking mouth, more people turn on Fox News. By the time Obama gets done attacking Fox News, everyone will be tuning in to "Fair and Balanced" reporting.

Posted by: Jerzy | October 20, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Who really gives a FOX! None of those loud talking "NOBODYS" would give have a voice if it weren't for the Obama Administration. Before Obama they were sitting at their news desk searching for topics to discuss to improve their ratings. They should be thanking the President for helping give a voice to their otherwise lifeless - worthless idiot shows! If your a fan of Fox, watch it...if you're not, then don't! Who really cares?! After Obama they will find other subjects to destroy for self gain. It's really ashame that this country has come to the point where progress is failure.

Posted by: rights4all | October 20, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Who really gives a FOX! None of those loud talking "NOBODYS" would even (correction before that gets blown up) have a voice if it weren't for the Obama Administration. Before Obama they were sitting at their news desks searching for topics to discuss to improve their ratings. They should be thanking the President for helping give a voice to their otherwise lifeless - worthless idiot shows! If your a fan of Fox, watch it...if you're not, then don't! Who really cares?! After Obama they will find other subjects to destroy for self gain. It's really a shame that this country has come to the point where progress means failure.

Posted by: rights4all | October 20, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Fox is not whining, it is honestly reporting the news. The whining you hear is coming from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. which can not deal with a news organization that does not toe the Obama line.

Obama's attack on FOX appears to me to be unconstitutional, just like flag@whitehouse.gov. The ACLU was all over "flag", I wonder where it is on this issue.

Posted by: mike85 | October 20, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Speaking from experience, I've only been personally attacked by people who feel threatened or insecure. In this case, the left wing nuts at the WH war against a news organization are transparently insecure and afraid of the truth coming out. When and why did they start this war that is not winnable? Just like they are about to re-engage in Afghanistan full force, they are afraid that FOX, the only news organization with the guts to expose fraud and corruption, is getting a little too close to the truth? What is the truth? They and their czars acting as a parallel government want to change our democracy into BIG BROTHER government run state!

Posted by: american17 | October 20, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

When Republicans criticize the media, it's "working the refs" and acceptable. When Democrats criticize the press they are "small-minded whiners" and it is unacceptable.

I think the WH is working the refs and driving media attention to a fake dust up with FN - giving everyone something to yak for hours on end about essentially nothing.

Yes, FN is whining incessantly about it; that's their right. It's our right not to listen to it, haha.

Posted by: Richmond_Ace | October 20, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

love that conservatives can only refute arguments with name calling --

Posted by: John1263 | October 20, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm an independent. I won't drink anyone's Kool-aid. I watch Fox news but skip Hannity, Beck and Rivera. O'Reilly takes some getting used to, but has some good segments. At least he talks to people of different opinions. Fox is not whiney. Fox's Chris Wallace, Brit Hume and the panel on the 6:00 PM broadcast have the best news segments on TV. All points of view presented unlike the totally liberal MSNBC and the weak CNN cast (except Bill Bennett and Candy Crowley).
CNN needs to replace Larry King and Wolf Blitzer because they are poor anchors. Don Lemon and Rick Sanchez are too liberal partisan.

Posted by: ACTIONBIAS | October 20, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

ggwalt
But the czars of this administration are communist, socialist,
getting their info and support from Mao???
research all of them and see what inside the WH
We are going in the direction of a Dictatorship....WAKE UP

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Aren't those the very same words spewed by a crying Glen Beck just last night on his program? That mentholeym he puts under his eyes sure makes the tears flow don't they?

Nothing of what you've parroted is real but then facts just don't matter now do they? Is it any wonder the WH is calling out these frauds? And PLEASE don't talk 1st Ammendent rights to me - that's just more "scar tatics" - Bush of course had 44 Czars - I guess they weren't communists huh?

At the least you people can do is make sense.

Posted by: Kathy5 | October 20, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
You can think Fox News is whining all you wnat but the viewers are laughing their butts off!

Posted by: ssol4569 | October 20, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama is just following the adage: "never enter a urinating (I'm cleaning this up) contest with a snake."

Posted by: browneri | October 20, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

The fact that the White House is refusing to talk to Fox News is a legitimate story. It shows the hypocrisy of the Obama administration about being open, engaged in a substantive debate on the issues et.al.

Sure, there is some self back-slapping about the ratings increase on Fox, but why shouldn't they be happy about that?

If the Obama administration wants to defuse the situation then the President, VP, Alexrod, or Emanuel should go on Fox!

But they will not because this administration is staffed by a bunch of control freaks that make Richard Nixon look like a Saint!

Posted by: ScottN1 | October 20, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't the White House have anything more important to do, such as handle Afghanistan, than try to start a childish fight with Fox news? Looks to us like Barack Obama's got a solid case of the emperor's new clothes.

Posted by: mock1ngb1rd | October 20, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Ms amass,
The total viewers of fox is the total of the other major networks, why? During the campaign fox critisized the candidates about equally other networks about 70 to 40 in obama's favor, why? What did the press say about Nixon's journalist hit list and what are they saying about the present administrations attack on Fox, why? Why are they even bothering to attack Fox, they must be insecure or have no other problems to solve.

My opinion was that lawyers were on the lowest rung on the ethics ladder. Well I was in errror, the mainsteam journalist have now taken up that rung. Maybe they have yet to reach that lowest rung, but are trying to get out of the whale dodo. How low is that? If yoy disagree with that observation tell me why the newspaper industry is self destructing. It all just sends a shiver up some where or is is down somewhere!!

Posted by: Buzzo2 | October 20, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Plix et alia:

Actually, "whining" DOES have 2 'n's. even in your world. "Whinning", the aforementioned typo (or not), has 3.

Posted by: eebsnallof | October 20, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Fox news must be doing something right...they're the only news making the news now in the mainstream media and the White House....I'm so sick and tired of White House.mainstream media and people complaining about Fox News....evidently they must be watching it....they sure doing a lot of crying....I'm not complaining about CNN being so biased in the election...kinda interesting watching Jack and Wolf cry after Hillary beat Obama in New Hampshire that night....I didn't complain about Wolf and Jack saying everything the could during primary to hurt Hillary...whom I was hoping would win over obama ....I had been watching CNN since its excistance and had never watched fox news but after Hillary lost..I switched CNN off and never looked at it since and started watching Fox News.......I found there I'
m not being fed a steady diet of what they want you to see.

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I believe the obamamorons should worry about policy and not the media...

Posted by: DwightCollins | October 20, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

People watching False News are knowingly allowing themselves to be brainwashed. Their paranoid fantasy world requires them to watch Faux Neuz to provide their talking points. They then gather with coffee and knowingly nod in agreement as the Faux distortions and lies are bantered back and forth like an aging pong ball drifting endlessly between mute paddles. It is a sad cabal of right wing wackos that are given what they need, a view of the world that never existed and never will.

Posted by: Saxxon_Domela | October 20, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama and his team should stop attacking the press -- including Fox. Interesting that Obama's rhetoric picked up after it was Fox that uncovered Van Jones, and the 'actions' by ACORN. (Wonder where CNN, NBC, CBS, and ABC were on those two, or, were they a bit too close to TEAM OBAMA?????)

Posted by: wheeljc | October 20, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Fox news is 100 percent biased against Obama!

That is a FACT!

They are ANYTHING BUT, "Fair and balanced", as they laughably try to claim.

I am glad to see the White house calling it like it is and going after this phony so-called news site.

Not everyone on Fox is anti-Obama to the same degree.

O Reilly, Beck and Hannity, however, are the SORRIEST excuses of journalism I've probably ever seen.

Sure, people watch them. Just like more people will go to a circus, when it comes to town, than would see a nice opera. But it's still a CIRCUS; entertainment, show and WILD performance with some real freaks along the way. NOTHING to be proud of, IMO.

Same goes for Keith Olberman at MSNBC. I just think these people should at least TRY to maintain some kind of neutrality when doing their shows.

It's why the media has been losing credibility overall as of late.

Vinny

Posted by: vince2 | October 20, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

People watching False News are knowingly allowing themselves to be brainwashed. Their paranoid fantasy world requires them to watch Faux Neuz to provide their talking points. They then gather with coffee and knowingly nod in agreement as the Faux distortions and lies are bantered back and forth like an aging pong ball drifting endlessly between mute paddles. It is a sad cabal of right wing wackos that are given what they need, a view of the world that never existed and never will.

Posted by: Saxxon_Domela | October 20, 2009 1:17 PM
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Or to put it another way. I have listened to abc, nbc, wusa, fox, cnn, msnbc, etc. I find as many barbs being thrown at the right from the left as there are being thrown at the left from the right on the channels. I see where mainstream media will not tell the whole story or leave things out, be it good, bad or ugly and I've seen fox hammer and pound and pulverize the point home.
At my age I've found out a couple of things. Up to this point the US Government has never run any program sucessfully and profitably. They can't manage Social Security, the Post Office, the Census, the Stimulus, the bail outs, Medicare or anything else thus far. I certainly don't trust them to manage health care in this country. Not now. Not ever.
I actually read a few portions of the original bill that came out. I notice that the way the bill was written left a lot and I mean a lot of application dependent upon interpretation. And that includes whether illegals would be eligible for health care.
Secondly, If mr obama truly believes in what he stands for and for what he's doing, he should be happy to talk about it on any station. He shouldn't need a teleprompter to help him answer eloquently. Sincerity beats eloquence any day of the week. Mr. President. Tell us sincerely how you feel and do it on FOX.

Posted by: tjmlrc | October 20, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Armao is obviously sponsored by the government- just like the majority of the information channels in a fascist rule. Ironically, it's this administration that's been whining.

Posted by: nosam32 | October 20, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather watch someone pick their nose than watch fox news. It would be more informative.

Posted by: hobnobber1 | October 20, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Obama doesn't even comment on all our troops in Afghanistan. He is self-serving and probably felt obligated to go to New Orleans. I am so surprised that he doesn't praise our troops more for their hard work and sacrifice.

I wish I could take my vote back. I was fooled by his chrisma. He only wants to change things his way not what THE PEOPLE want. He could have stopped AIG and Goldman Sachs from getting money. He could fix New Orleans like Mr. Robinson suggests.(in a previous article) Obama is just another politician following his orders.

He is not in charge.

The People were fooled. I was fooled!!!
I should have listened to the sceptics that pointed out all the questionable people he hangs out with. Our Media is so biased they are to blame. We believed that Obama was someone he is not. Shame on the media/journalists for not doing their job.

"During his campaign Obama said, "of you who want to know who I am, all you have to do is look at who I surround myself with", this in essence says a lot about who Obama really is, if you look closely at the people that he calls his friends, you can learn a lot.-just look at all the connections to radicals- Need I say more.

Now the petty Fox issue is Crazy. He has bigger issues on the fire why is he sending all his people to tear down FOX's credibility as a News organization?

He is trying to control free speech.

People have brains and can decide or change the channel if they don't like Fox News; but for the White House to get involved makes them look like bullies.

I pray that the Healthcare reform doesn't get passed until next year! It is too expensive and full of cuts and provisions that they don't want THE PEOPLE to know about until it is too late. We will not be able to keep the insurance policy we have because employers will be forced to pay more if they want to keep it for their employees. The government will put our employers at a disadvantage where they will have no other option then to drop our insurance coverage and then Obama can say "I didn't change your coverage, your employer did" This is a Scam! People tell your congress to vote NO on the current healthcare bill. Have them come up with one that has Tort reform! and save some real money!

Posted by: LeeYu | October 20, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

epeitro - I think the white house has grown up and the majority of us are happy to see their response to fox. They refuse to play with the spoiled brats and to that I saw KUDOS. How do you deal with folks who just hate you, you ignore the ignorant. Ignore them.

They do not want to have an intelligent conversation with the man and discuss the issues for real, we all know that. They want to beat him up and then rerun the darn soundbites over and over until the tape is worn down.

Mr. President, good for you. Please stand firm, I know you will. Don't give fox the time of day -- they are not worth your time or attention. You got work to do and so glad to see you doing it, and so glad to see grown folks in the white house too.

You know we aren't used to that after the last 8 years.

Posted by: love2much SE | October 20, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Jo Ann don't you have better things to write about?

The petty Fox issue is Crazy. Obama has bigger issues on the fire; why is he sending all his people to tear down FOX's credibility as a News organization?

The White House is trying to control free speech.

People have brains and can decide or change the channel if they don't like Fox News; but for the White House to get involved makes them look like bullies.

You are whinning--why even talk about it?

Posted by: LeeYu | October 20, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Please people, do not watch FOX News - You WILL lose your faith and mind.

If your friends of neighbors watch FOX News you really have no choice - you must shun them.

Posted by: BGuardian | October 20, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

The Chicago crowd in the White House are in something way over their heads.....they remind me of the dog chasing the car...now I've caught it...what am I going to do now....pathetic...when so much to be done and talked about.... that the President,chief of staff and chief advisor have nothing to talk about but Fox news on tv.... but thats the way they do things in Chicago...kill the messenger

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

As my coffee friend said this morning, "It's a shame, but Fox is the only news that I can believe anymore."

And therein lies the problem:

It's not that Fox News is good at what they do, but unfortunately, the other news organizations aren't doing what a large cross section of the middle class expects of them.

Posted by: JAH3 | October 20, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Whine is all the right wing can do anymore. The party of nay-saying, fear-mongering, losers. Like the right used to delight in saying: "Love it or Leave it"

God, it's nice to see them kicked off their self-rightous throne!!

Posted by: WP11231 | October 20, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

But *whining* is what Fox "news" and conservatives *do* now.

They can't fix the economy and don't care too. They don't really have any real fixes for health care, which after all, only bothers those annoying poor people. The next oil price spike will leave them pointing fingers but little else.

You know what they'll say before they say it. You might as well put it on tape and play it once a day. At *best* it's boring as bejesus.

Posted by: ian807 | October 20, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Get off that trash, Fox isn't whining. They are reporting fairly on themselves just as they do with every other issue. Fox draws more viewers than any other news network and probably more than any two news networks. If this had happened to that pandering Obama network, ABC, they'd be crying in their beer. Fox is the only network with the guts to challenge this current socialist regime and it puts the other propaganda networks to shame.

Posted by: rplat | October 20, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Fox "News" should go to hell, where they belong. Five year olds in any school system in the world could do a better job at reporting news.

Posted by: miknugget | October 20, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Poor baby Fox.

Too many lies.

And not enough time to tell them to the gullible fools who watch them.

Posted by: WillSeattle | October 20, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather watch someone pick their nose than watch fox news. It would be more informative.

Posted by: hobnobber1 | October 20, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse'''

i'm sure it would be for you......

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

How can you expect to get fair news from NBC...when they see Obama...they get tingles up their leg

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, LA Times, CBS, NBC, ABC break the Acorn story?

They don't want to get the Obama administration mad at them.

Without FOX there would be no political news coverage in America.

Posted by: RufusJunior | October 20, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Remind me, which paper's Ombudsman apologized for their slanted coverage following the election?

Posted by: HughAkston | October 20, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Whats wrong with picture so far:

Jones ....communist
Lloyd...admires the chevez revolution
Dunn....one of her favorite person...mao tse tung

stay tuned

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

It's Obabma, Rahm, Axelrod, Gibbs, and Dunn that are doing all the whining. You would think these guys have REAL issues to talk about other than whining about FOX. They also whine about Rush, any and all that question them. It's the Harry Reid and Pelosi Show, featuring the Whining Whitehouse. Geez, give me a break!

Posted by: EvreeMan | October 20, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

They are whining because it endears them to their fans, paints the Obama adminstration as evil - and gets them more ratings. To whine about their whining just helps them accomplish what they want - polarization that gives them more ratings. Dumb all around by the WP and Obama - less so by FOX.

Posted by: jdarcy_1999 | October 20, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

But let's not be "fair and balanced" and mention the MSNBC duo of Olbermann and Morrow. Now there is a pair of realy fair and balanced "journalists"...oh sorry Ed Morrow I didn't mean to insult you. I think the beating that Olbermann still gives Bush (who he must not have realized has left office)everyday and I don't remember Bush once saying MSNBC should shut down. If anyone is whining it is the White House and certain OpEd writers.

Posted by: staterighter | October 20, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

But let's not be "fair and balanced" and mention the MSNBC duo of Olbermann and Morrow. Now there is a pair of realy fair and balanced "journalists"...oh sorry Ed Morrow I didn't mean to insult you. I think the beating that Olbermann still gives Bush (who he must not have realized has left office)everyday and I don't remember Bush once saying MSNBC should shut down. If anyone is whining it is the White House and certain OpEd writers.

Posted by: staterighter | October 20, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

But let's not be "fair and balanced" and mention the MSNBC duo of Olbermann and Morrow. Now there is a pair of realy fair and balanced "journalists"...oh sorry Ed Morrow I didn't mean to insult you. I think the beating that Olbermann still gives Bush (who he must not have realized has left office)everyday and I don't remember Bush once saying MSNBC should shut down. If anyone is whining it is the White House and certain OpEd writers.

Posted by: staterighter | October 20, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

if anyone who says...Shepard Smith is not fair on his reporting have never looked at his show or a liar.....it has to be one of the two.....

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Being from the UK, I'm pretty sure Fox would not be able to use the word "news" in their title, given the obvious political bias that pervades every aspect of their coverage.

If we assume they would even be *allowed* to broadcast at all in the UK as a terrestrial channel, they would almost certainly go bust due to the fact that they would lack absolutely any credibility as a provider of useful information.

Only in the US could they be evenly remotely considered a legitimate provider of news...

Posted by: sh856531 | October 20, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Dick Cheney and George Bush boycotted everybody but FOX and Limbaugh. The Obama administration should have done the same thing to FOX but not said anything about it.

Posted by: Lilly1 | October 20, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Fox News is the only station I view, and I am a Democrat. Fox News has a broader audience than most people in the media would like to admit. Anderson Cooper is tanking in the ratings and MSNBC is hitting rock bottom as well.

Posted by: shewholives | October 20, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Fox News is the only station I view, and I am a Democrat. Fox News has a broader audience than most people in the media would like to admit. Anderson Cooper is tanking in the ratings and MSNBC is hitting rock bottom as well.

Posted by: shewholives | October 20, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Dick Cheney and his boy Bush boycotted most of the news organization and would only appear for FOX or Limbaugh. The Obama administration should have avoided those two without saying a word about it. Talking was their only mistake.

Posted by: Lilly1 | October 20, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I missed it. Fox News whining? When? The story I read was the Obama administration whining and since I don't watchFox News I must have heard it somewhere else.

Go ahead and whine Obama. Your constituency is the whiners and your whining validates them.

Posted by: aloysius1 | October 20, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

FOX NEWS ISN'T WHINING, IT'S WINNING AND LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK.
Obama, our Supreme Leader, hubris and thin skin be upon him is the whiner. He uses his attack dogs to go after Beck who outted Van Jones, and Anita Dunn and helped out ACORN. Obama is pulling a Nixon and is using our tax dollars to attack a private company, Fox News. Every day Fox gains viewers and now has more than all the MSM Obama lovers combined.
The latest Czar who quotes Mao and hates business can be seen telling his side of it in 2008. Watch it:
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/32133/

Posted by: mharwick | October 20, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Fox News stinks. In the main, it isn't really news, but propaganda mirroring the views of, at most, 27% of the population.

Fox News' business objective is to deliver the largest possible audience to advertisers in what has become a highly fragmented mass-media market. Fox's remedy to this fragmentation is to target a demographic group that is mostly white, middle age, under-educated (relative to the norm in the general population), often racist (covertly or otherwise) and otherwise disinclined to accept the notion that most political situations are actually obtuse when not opaque. Its commentators do not strive to challenge the target audience's conceits and prejudices but to confirm and reinforce them, to keep them tuned-in and watching; precisely why it stinks to high Heaven.

I applaud the President's decision; long past time.

Posted by: hogsmile | October 20, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

the USA seems to be one of those rare countries , where a president doing nothing except being "present" on most occasions , still stays in power

Oh yes , let's add , that the White House is one of those rare institutions providing on-the-job training for presidents

how ridiculous

Posted by: michel1835 | October 20, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Treating Fox as a legitimate news organization is as absurd as Fox referring to itself as "Fair and Balanced." Fox was founded by a right wing billionaire, is run by Nixon Administration flacks, and has a business model built on feeding extremist right wing paranoia.

The White House should treat Fox News respectfully but as an advocacy organization, akin to Pat Robertson's TV show, or maybe the P.R. wing of the National Rifle Association -- they have a big following but that following is still a very small sliver of America. They deserve no more attention than, say, the AARP or the AFL-CIO, which have similar sized memberships. It's amazingly hypocritical that Fox wants to be treated like a real news organization when it has never followed the rules of a real news organization.

Posted by: tboyer33 | October 20, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

"Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him yourself."--Proverbs 26:4

Posted by: ecglotfelty | October 20, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

So, what's the big deal? The WH is only stating the obvious about Faux News. They are a political operation. Why would Fox want to to deny what is so obvious? No one is trying to shut them down or censor them, but people need to be clear about their agenda a propensity for misinforming. The real question should be how much damage does it do to a democracy when opinion journalism masquerades as news. In fact, we're not even just talking opinion, we're talking about an organization that peddles misinformation in a big way. When people in this country can't even agree on facts, which Fox frequently seems to have a problem with, how can we seriously debate ANY given issue?

Posted by: ggwalt | October 20, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I think "Little Lord Fauntleroy" is a good name for Obama. What at first seemed athletic and intelligent, now seems a wimp. How can things have gone so wrong so fast?

Posted by: mclovin | October 20, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

labc,i like your thinking,ive seen some people that admit to watching fox and by and large they do have personal hygiene problems.and for sure they cant think for theirself.i find it hard to believe that anyone who watches beck,or hannity have ever been in any supervising position in their life,they are just a band of gofers.

Posted by: donaldtucker | October 20, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

ok folks...time for Glen Beck on fox...enjoy....

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Should my fellow progressives no longer choose to be distracted by Fox's supporters' terribly sad monetary assertions, you'll see that the likelihood more than few of that comedy network spokespersons from Orally to Manatee to (George) Wallace, and surely their owner Master Murdock historical relevance, nay it be said life, has so slim a chance to outlive this President's that few of us need continue them written response. Absolutely no threat implied or intended. Simply fate.

Posted by: crit_thnkriedc | October 20, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Can the people here engaging in personal demonization against Fox News and its viewers not see the larger picture at stake here? If a presidential administration can dismiss any news organization that offers views critical to it, then every news organization becomes subject to political vetting of news.

Fox News distinguishes between straight news reporting and news-commentary; but the administration here is making no such distinction. Moreover, the existence of commentary is being used to call the organization "not news." Under that definition, this, the Wall Street Journal, is not a newspaper, but an entertainment/opinion vehicle because it has opinion pages.

Because Fox News has revealed stories that have proved embarassing for the administration, they are engaging in a counter-attack method that will dismiss the messenger instead of defending the policies and decisions that led to the situations. If you silence Fox News, then this administration and future ones can also silence any other media organization that proves to ask questions or show stories that are embarassing.

Remember:

"Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me." ~Pastor Martin Niemöller

Posted by: tomteboda | October 20, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

TO: nmg3rln who wrote:
“The real whining is coming from Little Lord Fauntleroy in the Oval who seems to always pee his pants over criticism of his policies. It's time to stand up and be a president and not a cheerleader!”
___________________

Ha! If you want to see a REAL pee pants wimp, look over at your former supreme leader who is hiding behind everything and everybody, rather than stand up to his responsibilities, who is of course George W. Bush.
Rather than that little irresponsible baby coming out and standing up for every law he used to run this country into the ground, he’s hiding behind his momma’s skirt watching President Obama get blamed for all HIS mistakes, including all the spending Bush did.
Talk about a pansy, you got one BIG one on your team.
Posted by: lindalovejones
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Linda, I love your posts. They are an endless source of hilarity.

No doubt GW had some (many) terrible policies, thank you for restating the completely obvious.
I had high hopes for President Obama's term(s) in office, and I still do. As far as I can tell, the mistakes he has been blamed for ($1T here, $800B there, let's wait and see about this whole pulling out of Gitmo thing, 2011 is plenty soon to be out of Iraq - wink wink, let's deal with China's money and THEN we can talk to the ONLY true agent of peace in this world) are his alone.
I don't think President Obama is a pansy (why am I the only one from either side still referring to him as "President"?), but I am pretty dang certain that little Napoleonic Texan would just as soon sit down to tea with Ahmadinejad as he would jump up to gut-punch him; and he would bring the Dalai Lama to China with him, just to watch Hu Jintao's face when the Lama waves at him from the US sovereign territory that is Air Force One.

Seriously Linda, you are ridiculously funny. More ridiculous than funny, but still...

Posted by: thepearl0369 | October 20, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I watch Fox, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, and CBS. I have not seen much whining from any of them. Rachel Maddow, Glenn Beck, and Keith Olbermann have whined. That's 2 to 1 liberal outnumbering conservatives. The rest of them don't seem to whine. When is the whining time that I am missing. I get to watch from about 6:00pm to 10:00pm. Sometimes in the morning as well. I see very little whining

Posted by: thelaw1 | October 20, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

My mom taught me years ago "...if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen". Maybe "THE WON" will pick up his clipboard to run back to Chicago where the greasy machine humps his leg endlessly!

Posted by: rogerherd | October 20, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Faux News gets called out and all of Wingnutistan screams bloody murder. Too bad, 'nuts. We all know Faux has been in the bag for your side forever. Good for the President! Those who say it makes the White House look small are just plain wrong. I say keep swinging at Rodger Alies' thugs. I'm enjoying it

Posted by: gwbush2323 | October 20, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Fox 'News' is a hate crime in motion.

Posted by: TightWhiteRight | October 20, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

This supports my growing theory of the Democrats. My theory suggests that since Obama took office the Democrats will resort to personal & character attacks when faced with confrontation, instead of addressing the issues or disagreements that they are being presented with. The Democrats will try to divert the attention of the argument away from the initial point of contention and try to focus on any personal or character issue of the party or person who raised the issue. So instead of discussing the real issue (i.e. public healthcare being provided to illegal immigrants) the Democrats choose to have a vote on decorum and not address the issue that was presented. This results in the news and the rest of the world to take sides on whether the "you lie" was out of bounds, or justified.

Posted by: sanmateo1850 | October 20, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I Don't waste time with ROACHES, I Exterminate them.

Posted by: mudbone | October 20, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

For all those complaining that Fox News didn't show the Obama speech to Congress - you are wrong! Both Fox News and Fox Business showed the entire speech with pre- and post- comments. The Local Fox affiliates didn't run the speech, probably as a tacticle move - Let's see 12 channels runniong the speech, including our own Fox News and Fox Business - maybe we can appeal to that group that wouldn't be interested in watching the speech. Yes, there are people out there that were not interested.

Get the facts straight - this is a battle between the Obama administration and FOX NEWS. Fox News and Fox Business ran the entire speech!!!

Morons who posted otherwise, I expect a retraction of your biased, falsehoods!

Posted by: EJ001 | October 20, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

You got it bacwards , dear jo-ann. Fox is not whining - all the whining is coming from this petty White house - Fox is happy as a clam and milking it for all is worth. Why don't you take a pick at the ratings?

Posted by: JohnGalt9 | October 20, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

The government tries to bully and intimidate a news agency and prevent them from covering stories critical of the people in power... and the Washington Post thinks this is perfectly okay. Hmmm...

Posted by: felixw | October 20, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

If they can kill Fox and News Corp, and ABC too (not nearly enthusiastic enough) there should be nothing but good news to listen to from then on from the unbiased media. Everyone else will understand the message, even if they don't get it now.

Posted by: droberts57 | October 20, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

"But unlike Fox, you won't hear me whining about it."

I guess that's because you're a "journalist" and not a "reporter"... facts aren't important, the conclusion you want to shove down people's throats is.

Besides, you don't even work for a real news organization.

Posted by: malclave | October 20, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

@Plix

I live in a world where liberal "contributors" to blogs are defined by their hatred and intolerance.

I guess we live in the same world.

Posted by: malclave | October 20, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

no..government officials are not compelled by law to cooperate with reporters...
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Especially Foreigner Keith Rupert Murdock... He's not even an AMERICAN...but he owns and controls American views and lopsided opinionated entertainment (not news)...go to the fact check sites and they will disprove the rhetoric spewed by a FOREIGNER....You guys fall for anything...

"In recent years, Australian-born billionaire Rupert Murdoch has used the U.S. government's increasingly lax media regulations to consolidate his hold over ...while you attempt to keep your jobs and feed your children...this man makes billions off the extreme right rhetoric and he's NOT AN AMERICAN...enough said.

Posted by: lindarc | October 20, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

NewsBusters: Unlike Nixon, Obama's Media Attacks Generate Little Press Anger
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2009/10/20/unlike-nixon-obamas-media-attacks-generate-little-press-anger

Posted by: StewartIII | October 20, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I am glad the White House finally has got some backbone - call it Fox "Republican party network", call it Fox "conservative party network", but don't call Fox a News channel..

Posted by: WVUWEIRTON | October 20, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

The President said that he would call out those who did not tell the truth about his proposals. Fox presents the death panels, President's birth location, Obama will stop people from buying guns, and on and on as objectively obtained, reliable news. Basically, the Fox organization has elevated allegation, conspiracy theories, and trash to the level of legitimate news.

Posted by: EarlC | October 20, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Thank God for the level headed moderates and Independents in this country.I have confidence they will save this country again from the extreme right wing nuts and the extreme left wing nuts.

Posted by: lucygirl1 | October 20, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey Wingnuts,

You guys are all over the comments section of this liberal rag. Whats-a-matter, you 'nuts hangin with the commies now? ha. You know my favorite part of this whole wingnut eruption following our victory last November is how p.o.ed all of Wingnutistan seems to be. Stay angry, 'nuts. We won, You lost. ha ha ha. We get to make the laws now, you don't. Enjoy Glenn Beck guys. He's the best you got now.

Posted by: gwbush2323 | October 20, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Fox? I don't really care if the bottom 5 percent have a voice. It's not like we don't have 100s of stations now. Guess it's bad thou when the so-called "news station" is the news.

Posted by: JoeNTx | October 20, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Bush/Cheney/Limbaugh/Mother Teresa/Levin's fault: was I first?

"Fox should stop whining
By Jo-Ann Armao

I wish I had a nickel for every time a public official refused to talk to me or one of the reporters I supervised in my more than 30 years of journalism. Or a penny for every time someone criticized my reporting. If they had, I’d be set for life."

Just proving was an old bag she is....

"And that’s why I’m having a hard time understanding all this fuss about the Obama administration not wanting to play ball with Fox News."

She sounds like Gilda Radner's Emily Litella: what's all this FUSS about Fox not wanting to play ball with Obambi?

Moron.

Posted by: nickthimmeschearthlinknet | October 21, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Emily Litella was an elderly woman with a hearing problem who made regular appearances on SNL's Weekend Update op-ed segment in the late 1970s. Attired in a frumpy dress and sweater, Litella was introduced with professional dignity by the news anchors, who could sometimes be seen cringing slightly in anticipation of the verbal faux pas which they knew would follow.

Gilda Radner (as Litella) peered through her reading glasses and, in the character's trademark high-pitched warbly voice, read a prepared editorial addressing some public issue, becoming increasingly agitated as her statement progressed—only to discover in the middle of her commentary that she had misheard what the issue really was. A typical example:

"What is all this fuss I hear about the Supreme Court decision on a "deaf" penalty? It's terrible! Deaf people have enough problems as it is!"
When the news anchor interrupted to point out her error (eg. "that's death, Ms. Litella, not deaf"), she would crinkle her nose, usually saying, "Oh, that's very different...", and then meekly turn to the audience, saying, "Never mind."


And I apologize to all you true morons (like you, gwbush2323) for calling this idiot a moron.

Posted by: nickthimmeschearthlinknet | October 21, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Questions:

(1) If Fox is an arm of the Republican Party why didn't Sarah Palin go on Bill O'Reilly's show during the campaign?

Answer: Because O'Reilly is a hard-hitting independent who asks tough questions of everyone, regardless of party.

(2) If Fox is an arm of the Republican Party why didn't John McCain go on Bill O'Reilly's show during the final weeks of the campaign?

Answer: Same as #1.

(3) Why don't we see Dick Cheney on Bill O'Reilly's show?

Answer: Same as #1

Honestly, Fox-bashers, you lose credibility when you make comments that betray your total ignorance of these facts.

On the other hand, if you want to see slavish devotion to a political elite, tune into MSNBC or read the dying big city newspapers.

Posted by: felixw | October 21, 2009 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Fox News is way more akin to news than Obama is to presidency.

Posted by: oneterm | October 21, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

It is a little silly for Jo-Ann Armao to compare herself with the Fox News channel. It is one thing to diss individual reporters, but when the White House starts excluding a news outlet - trying to punish for not pleasing the White House with its reporting then that begins to be stifling freedom of the press.

Frankly I am amazed that so many of the news media are willing to stand by and see that done to one of the top 5 TV news outlets. It is a good thing that the Washington Bureau chiefs had the cajones to tell the White House today if Fox was excluded, so were they. That is how it should be done.

Posted by: DDiorioNDallas | October 22, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Most people are uninformed. They watch their favorite news outlet and claim the talking points to be facts. Go to factcheck.org or politifact.com, both non partisan, and you will find that Sarah Palin's view that the excise tax on "cadillac" health plans will hit those making less than $200 thousand the most is mostly true. Also, tort reform will cut health spending by .5% or $41 billion over the decade. Find that on MSNBC. You won't. You will find it on Fox though. Check your facts before you talk.

Posted by: karcourt | October 23, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Armao: No White House or no Congress should engage in attempting to define who is and who is not a news organization. That said blogs, and honestly, op-ed reporters are not news because they exist solely to express opinions. However, the issue is not that FNC is making "all this fuss" the real issue is that our elected representatives are deciding to which questions they will acknowledge and which questions they will ignore, and worse yet, diminish as "meaningless."
Do you believe in your heart-of-heart that any politician should get a pass for refusing to answer hard questions on their policy stance? Or do you have "a thrill running down" your leg too?
Finally, if the previous administration tried this, would your op-ed on the subject be so supportive to them?

Posted by: citizenjoe | October 23, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Jo-Ann Armao, I thought this was an article of some worth. But the fact you have no earthly idea of the subject you are talking about, I find it an insult to this publication. First when has FOX cried about this, as they have been laughing all the way to the bank on it. This whole issue has shown the child like, immature attitude of the joke we have in Office, as you notice I do not use the word President, as he does not in any sense fit that term.
The only cry baby here has been the ones Chris Wallace has pointed at, Obama and his pro-Mao, Che, Castro, Stalin, staff.

Posted by: dakwamyth | October 23, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Like Hugo Chavez, Obama and his ilk may be seriously thinking "Presidency for Life", which means that he must suppress opposing voices. Indeed Obama may be the first US tyrant in the making. We are certainly entering a period in which the strength of the US Constitution, the resilience of a free society, and the continued viability of the free market system - are all being severely tested. If we fail, then Newsweek magazine will be right in its headlined declaration, "We are all Socialists Now" (Newsweek 2/16/09).

Posted by: philphat | October 24, 2009 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Bluemax1 -"It would be one thing if the democrats had been in charge the last 8 years doing a bad job"

You're joking right? Hey Mr. Genius. The DEMOCRATS WERE IN CONTROL. They had the majority in Congress when Bush made all of those stupid decisions; Iraq War,The Patriot Act,CIA tortures, Quantanamo Bay etc.

Posted by: mousepd | October 24, 2009 3:53 AM | Report abuse

Armao, have you heard of the First Amendment?

Posted by: myfreedomfirst | October 25, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

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