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Palin vs. Collins in NY's 23rd

The congressional race in upstate New York’s 23rd District continues to create fascinating divisions in the Republican Party, and the reporting over the weekend in the district highlighted two national Republican figures going different ways.

This is the fight in which the Republican nominee, Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava, faces not only a Democrat, Bill Owens, but also a third party Conservative candidate. As I reported in my column last week, many national Republicans have abandoned Scozzafava because they see her as too moderate, or even, God forbid, as a liberal. This gives Democrat Owens a chance to win in a district that, in its various configurations, has been Republican since 1871.

Sarah Palin is not one to get caught out on the left, and it was big news in the district that the former GOP vice presidential candidate endorsed the Conservative, Doug Hoffman. Amber Withers, reporting for the Palladium-Times of Oswego, cited Palin’s post Thursday night on her Facebook page. “The Republican Party today has decided to choose a candidate who more than blurs the lines,” Palin wrote, “and there is no real difference between the Democrat and the Republican in this race.” Line blurring is definitely not a Palin thing. Withers also noted the endorsements of Hoffman from former Republican Sen. and presidential candidate Fred Thompson, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey and Steve Forbes, another past Republican presidential contender.

But the moderate Republicans will not go down without a fight.

In Sunday’s Watertown Daily Times, reporter Martha Ellen gave extensive coverage to a strong endorsement of Scozzafava from Sen Susan Collins (R-Maine), one of the last of the moderate G.O.P. tribe in Congress. Collins, a 1975 graduate of St. Lawrence University, was in the district for the inauguration of William L. Fox as the university’s new president. She took time out to plug Scozzafava as “someone who really understands the concerns of the district.”

For her part, as Ellen reported, Scozzafava tried to turn the opposition to her from national conservative figures into a local asset. “They don't know us,” Scozzafava said. “They don't know this region, and they don't care.”

The candidate added: "Victory is all the more sweet when it doesn't come easily.”
The election will be settled on Nov. 3. But the fight within the Republican Party that this contest has brought into relief will go on for a lot longer.

By E.J. Dionne  | October 26, 2009; 7:00 AM ET
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Dream on, EJ. Scozzafava is so far to the left this is not remotely a template for the "fight within the Republican Party" you would love to see.

And of course, the perpetual discord among Dimwitcrats is supposedly a sign of their "diversity" (LOL).

Posted by: thebump | October 26, 2009 7:42 AM | Report abuse

The Repubs are in a death spiral and that is great news for America.

The vast majority of the country is sickened by their incompetence and weird cultish behavior. The GOP is about as popular as syphilis.

Posted by: ottoparts | October 26, 2009 8:05 AM | Report abuse

EJ,

Again you demonstrate your ignorance when you refer to Scozzafava as "too moderate." A Republican who supports taxpayer-funded abortions, the Obama-Pelosi-Reid Stimulus plan, refused to sign the no new tax pledge and big labor is hardly a moderate.

If anyone is outside of the mainstream GOP, it is Susan Collins. As for Scozzafava, she is so outside of mainstream GOP thinking, even the local Dems think she is too liberal.

Posted by: TooMuchSoccer | October 26, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Ottoparts,

have you checked recent poll numbers for the big 3 Dems - Obama (historical decline), Pelosi and Reid (they would be jealous of George Bush's numbers).

How are Dems doing in Virginia where they are about to be swept out of the three highest offices?

Seems to me that Americans are sick of liberal Dems.

Posted by: TooMuchSoccer | October 26, 2009 8:11 AM | Report abuse

The GOP is about as popular as syphilis.

Posted by: ottoparts
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Funny you should say that, because with all the teabagger paranoia concerning vaccines, they should start dropping like flies fron syphilis, rickets, polio, etc. relatively soon. This will make it very hard for them to wave their poorly worded protest signs at the next white powe...I mean tea party.

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | October 26, 2009 8:36 AM | Report abuse

@ thebump

Yes, we "Dimwiticrats" take discord as a sign of diversity. Although, we're smarter than Redumblicans because we usually do these things in a primary, not a general election.

Posted by: froggmanx | October 26, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

"weird cultish behavior."

Like putting a halo over 0bama's head, like putting his picture on the American flag, like chanting "yes, we can," and "change." That kind of cultish behavior.

The fact that Scozzafava is the darling of the Daily Kos, has ties to ACORN, supports card check, and has voted to the left of half the dems in the NY legislature, doesn't make her a "moderate Republican," it makes her a big D democrat.

Posted by: gatshanson1 | October 26, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Great points gatshanson1. How about a little intellectual honesty EJ?

Posted by: TooMuchSoccer | October 26, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

gatshanson1, TooMuchSoccer, et al-
You don't really think the GOP would be stupid enough to offer up a candidate that was totally and completely unqualified and would convince their moderate constituents that they had gone off the deep end, do you?

Oh, wait, Palin...

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | October 26, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

(a) Why are you against White Power? I don't mean the Klan, I mean the power of white people. Are you against Black Power? Or are you just against majorities? You probably hate Christians on principle but fear to say anything bad about Islamic militants who, in one day, generally kill more people than fanatical Christians have in the last decade.

(2) Why are you against the Tea Party? Are you against the Communist Party? Socialist? No, why would you be. Have much hypocrisy for breakfast? What about Libertarian? Why are you against free thought?

(3) Why do you think the Tea Party is the Klan? Don't you know that the Tea Party has a cross-section of America in it: white, black, Oriental, man, woman, gay, straight. How can you not know this? The Tea Party is against big government, not people. The Tea Party is against taxation without representation. The Tea Party is against intrusion. Conservative? You bet. But, unlike the Left, we don't talk about marching Liberals into the sea or camps.

(4) Why do you hate? You hate Palin because.. what? She's a hypocrite? Who isn't? Look in the mirror. She's a politician? Wow, you have high standards... Obama is a politician. She's a bit daffy? So is Biden. She's a woman? Get over it. She's better looking than your girlfriend/wife/self? Probably.

(5) The Republican Party dead? I hope so. Then the Democrat Party can die off also. We need less parties, more people.

(6) Why do you hate community organizing? The Tea Party is just a coalition of community organizers and regular people, with some political backing and a bit of media approval from Fox. But you're so afraid. Why? If so, be afraid of organizer-in-charge.

(7) The reason you're mad is that Conservatives have finally caught on and taken the strategies of the Left for themselves: organize, protest, be heard. Interesting that we've only making a small noise and you are so violent about it. Why do you say Obama's gonna get shot? Who's fomenting?

Posted by: gengar843 | October 26, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Hoffman has been endorsed by Palin, Thompson, Armey, and Forbes. Ha! Ha! Ha! Nothing like being endorsed by quitters, losers, and have beens. Good luck, Hoffman!

Posted by: Gatsby10 | October 26, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Gatsby10, damnedgentlemen, et al,

You seem to be upset with people who have put principles before politics, individuals before party. How cynical.

I prefer a committed principled liberal Democrat to a squishy unprincipled Republican. At least they have the guts to stand up for their beliefs. The same goes double for principled conservatives.

By the way, you need to step outside the Beltway. Check the letters to the editors of local papers, rallies, etc in NY-23. Hoffman has generated the grassroots support while Scozzafava and Owens (the Dem) are relying on ossified national party and union leadership for support.

Hoffman is the candidate of the people, for the people and by the people.

Posted by: TooMuchSoccer | October 26, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Scozzafava is NOT a liberal. She's a hard-core libertarian that wants ALL of government out of people's lives, even on social issues like reproductive and marriage freedom.

On those issues, she goes so far around the circle to the right that she comes back around to the left side of the left.

Scozzafava makes Ron Paul look like a socialist.

Posted by: Jimdotz | October 26, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse


gengar843 wrote:
(3) Why do you think the Tea Party is the Klan? Don't you know that the Tea Party has a cross-section of America in it: white, black, Oriental, man, woman, gay, straight. How can you not know this?
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Aahahahaha1 Good one! Obviously, you've never been to a tea party...because they're whiter than a klan robe fresh from the cleaners.
Love the 'Oriental' reference, btw.

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | October 26, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Jimdotz,

What is libertarian about denying secret ballot votes for unions? What is libertarian about more government control of industry? What is libertarian about government bailouts? What is libertarian about the Obama-Pelosi-Reid stimulus package? What is libertarian about using taxpayer funds for abortion?

Scozzafava supports all of those. Do you still think she is a libertarian? If you do not wish to amend your remarks, then you obviously do not understand libertarianism.

Posted by: TooMuchSoccer | October 26, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Toomuchsoccer, have you checked the poll numbers for the republicans, for Sarah Palin, for Limbaugh and Beck? Look. At the moment Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, Boll Clinton and President Obama have the highest approval numbers in the country.

Not only that, your idiotic notion that Obama is suffering from "historically low poll numbers" is laughable! He is at 57% at the moment. If you want to cite historically low approval numbers for a President, you have to go back to the previous President and his dour sidekick Dick Cheney.

Posted by: jaxas | October 26, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

TooMuchSoccer's views on what is the "mainstream of GOP thinking" is exhibit A of why the GOP is doomed to follow the Whigs and the Know-Nothings into the garbage can of history.

Sick freaks.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 26, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Toomuchsoccer has taken too many free kicks to the head.

Doesn't he know that soccer is a sport played by the children of liberal suburbanites?

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 26, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Sorry jaxas.

"Obama Sees Worst Poll Rating Drop in 50 Years"
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6409721/Barack-Obama-sees-worst-poll-rating-drop-in-50-years.html#)

By the way, it is trivial, but CBS is reporting that the Anointed One has now played more golf in his first nine months of office than Bush did on 8 years.

Posted by: TooMuchSoccer | October 26, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Libertarianism? What a joke! Look. Libertarians have always been with us but they have never been able to garner any more than a tiny sliver of the electorate. How long are you nudniks going to delude yourself? The American people want government. They may complain about its size from time to time but if I have learned anything over the years of my life it is this: Whenever any President or political party or ideology says they are going to eliminate a specific government program or department, they get their head handed to them by the public. If you don't believe that, just ask Newt Gingrich what happened in 1995 when he and the conservatives wanted to eliminate the Department of Education. And while your asking him that, throw in a question about what happened when the conservatives try to shut down government in 1995. They handed President Clinton a second term!

Posted by: jaxas | October 26, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Hey koolkat,

You obviously have not followed the races in Virginia where the most conservative slate in 20 years is about to toss out the Dems. Is that what you call the ash heap of history?

Posted by: TooMuchSoccer | October 26, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I see that nobody can answer simple questions. The only response to my questions so far is that tea parties are whiter than a Klan robe. First, incorrect. Mainly white, definitely mixed. Second, deliberately divisive. What do you have against white people? I have nothing against any color. If your standard is that the Left is more "inclusive," then you're just full of yourself. The "party of the people" is not.

Posted by: gengar843 | October 26, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

The WP is fascinated by a division between real Republicans and RINOs? Wasn't this division the reason why Truman beat Dewey?

Posted by: JBaustian | October 26, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

That's pretty thin gruel toomuchsoccer given that in the same time frame, everyone suffered the same dramatic poll number drop. The GOP ended up at 20%! A little nugget your right leaning website left out of that poll.

Look. I know it is like ashes in your mouth but, Barack Obama's Poll numbers suffered not because people just don't like him. They went down along with everyone else's because people saw the big banks and finanacial institutions and their CEOs being rewarded while they were losing jobs and being kicked out of their homes.

You can believe whatever claptrap you want to believe put out by these biles soaked, I-hate-Obama-because-he-doesn't-look-like-one-of-us websites, but the truth is, he is rebounding because the economy is rebounding. The American people like this President. They want him to succeed. And they don't give a crap about all of this conspiratorial hoodwinkery put out by the Becks, Limbaughs and Fox News.

It is just that simple.

Posted by: jaxas | October 26, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Jaxass,

Apparently Obama's drop is much more rapid than anyone's including Nixon's, in the last 50 years. What say you about Virginia and the conservative slate that is about to be elected? have you looked at Pelosi and Reid numbers (in the 20s)?

Funny, how when I put forward facts, rebuttals are in the form of ad hominem attacks.

Posted by: TooMuchSoccer | October 26, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Indeed, jaxas, as you noted, polls can be interpreted many ways.
You could make an arguement that Congress' numbers are low due to their failure to pass healthcare reform, or in fact failure to accomplish much of anything for the middle and lower classes.
I know I'm no fan of Congress, but mostly because they still let Mitch McConnell and John Boner say anything ever.
I guess getting smacked down in the last two Congressional cycles has somehow convinced the GOP that they're not obstructionist enough. Maybe when there are no more Republicans in Congress at all they'll get it.

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | October 26, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I think I can answer your questions gengar843. Most Americans don't hate white power. But then again, most Americans are not like they were in the 1950s and are far more receptive to what used to be minorities having power. And as for the Tea Parties, I am sure there were serious principled people in attendance. But let's face facts here. The Tea Party spectacle is no different from the same sort of political theater that takes place on the left from time to time when they are out of power and disagree with the direction of the country.

But the salient point here is that the Tea Party mentality is in the minority politically speaking. They probably account for no more than 20% tops when it comes to the political sentiments of the American people. At the moment, most Americans want effective government action to solve major problems. The conservatives for the past 40 years have pretty much held sway with their "government is the problem" mentality.

That attitude no longer prevails. Americans have a natural suspicion of big governemt. They will always have that. But at the moment, they expect government to solve problems and are willing to go along with a more activist governemt and the polls reflect that in this current debate over health care.

The tea parties are not really any more emblemnatic of where the country is than are the left wing demonstrators against the globalization of the economy.

Posted by: jaxas | October 26, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Toomuchsoccer, let me try to explain it again. You seem to have trouble understanding facts when they are presented in a logical, coherent fashion.

Obama's poll numbers droped from the 70s to the 50s. Every President's poll numbers drop down in his first year and usually end up somewhere in the low to mid 50s unless something dramatic happens. Obama's present mid-50s approval ratings are rather astounding given the mess he has inherited from the previous administration.
Two messy wars and a shattered economy.

But what is more astounding to me is your delusionary tendency to look at this President and see failure when in fact he hasn't been in office all that long and we are already beginning to see a turnaround in a great many things that plagues us during the last administration. The right track-wrong track number is by no means good but it is an improvement over where we were in the Bush administration.

And trust me, the TARP Bill is going to be seen--indeed is already being seen by those in the know--as a heroic action on the part of Obama, Bush, McCain and all those who voted for it in spite of the pressures of ddomsayers on the right. It has saved us from what would have been an unimaginable economic holocaust.

No, you can bawl all you want and you can console yourself with the balmy delusion that somehow Obama has lost the confidence of the peope. But that is not what the polls show and I think you and Beck and Limbaugh know that and that explains your almost erotic need to try and slime this President anyway you can.

Posted by: jaxas | October 26, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Look. I know it galls you people on the right who hate the left, hate Obama, hate the Clintons, hate Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. But, look Pelosi and Reid are right in the same pot of tar that Boehner and McConnel are in, mired in the 20s. All that means is that they are in Congress and right now Congress is held in the same low esteem as the GOP, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin the media and Osama Bin Laden and you can throw in Mr. Heene as well if you want.

At the top of the pile sits Hillary, Michelle, Bill, and Obama. Now you can slice it any way you want but they are way, way more admired than any of the pukes you right wingers get all wet and hot over.

Posted by: jaxas | October 26, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

If there is one point that fairly shouts out from all these polls and quite honestly from the election Of Barack Obama, it is this: Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, the GOP, the Tea Party protestors, the Town Hall squidbrains, the Birthers and the Deathers, the racists and the bigots with their cute little racists signs--The American people don't like you.

They like Obama and the Clintons. They like the democrats mostly. They like Joe Biden. They like David Letterman and John Stewart. They even like McCain, Romney and Pawlenty. They hate the media in general but they admire the mainstream news anchors. And they like Susan Collins.

That should tell the right wing something. But then, they look at the world from the inside out and they look at it from upside down. For them, the 20% who love them are the real Amurricans.

Posted by: jaxas | October 26, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

jaxas,
Since you insist on using logic and level-headed reasoning, I recommend that you include crayon-drawn pictures in your replies.
Unlike the blathering fools you are attempting to straighten out, I have been to multiple tea parties.
I have yet to see a single Asian (or 'Oriental', as gengar843 so quaintly refers to them) of any sort.
I can tell you how many non-whites I've seen: 4.
As for gays, well, you got me there. GOPers have become quite adept at concealing anything about themselves that looks un-status quo. If only blacks, women, hispanics, and poor people could so easily hide their true selves, tea baggers would find it much easier to come out of their caves and intermingle with society.
Lucky for them, there's the Interwebs.

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | October 26, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Why is she still around? She's so sickening. To know how stupid she is and still have her regarded as a possible presidential candidate makes me want to vomit.

Continue the discussion on my blog! http://thepoliticrat.blogspot.com

Posted by: thepoliticrat | October 26, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

As a Democrat, I earnestly hope that the Republican wingnuts continue their ideological purge of moderate Republicans. Perhaps we can even look forward to the creation of a "pure" third party.

Posted by: BrooklynDemocrat | October 26, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

he Repubs are in a death spiral and that is great news for America.

The vast majority of the country is sickened by their incompetence and weird cultish behavior. The GOP is about as popular as syphilis.

Posted by: ottoparts | October 26, 2009 8:05 AM | Report abuse "

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I was thinking herpes. Syphilis can be cured but herpes comes back. It also has some validity. Just like a bad case of herpes, the GOP is always there to make sure you don't get laid.

Posted by: dcp26851 | October 26, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

At one time, the Republican Party was great because it housed a strong progressive contingent, as well as conservative elements. FDR worked with progressive Republicans like George Norris of Nebraska and Fighting Bob LaFollette of Wisconsin; and on some issues, he sometimes faced their opposition. And let us not forget Franklin's cousin Teddy, a true progressive who has to be rated as one of the country's best chief executives. I see that old tradition of conservative/moderated and liberal in both parties dying out, and I think that's too bad, because when one or the other party governs, we get too much conservative or too much liberal, and never the twain shall meet.

Posted by: rcairo | October 26, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

"As a Democrat, I earnestly hope that the Republican wingnuts continue their ideological purge of moderate Republicans. Perhaps we can even look forward to the creation of a "pure" third party."

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Conservative Quacks?

Posted by: dcp26851 | October 26, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I just LOVE the Republican Party these days. I just love sitting back and watching them EAT their own.

I know, I know. Disgusting isn't it, but at least it's fun to watch from where I sit.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | October 26, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm on the left and loved watching the republicans go under but now it is just getting old. Are there any true conservatives out there that can put a stop to this crazy spectacle? this is even worse than watching the struggling Rams play.

Posted by: alan15 | October 26, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Like playground bullies, the Limbaugh lemmings will say and do anything to get their way. That is not politics nor patriotism. It is nothing less than the promotion of anarchy and the overthrow of the duly elected (for a change) government of the United States. By definition, this is both treason and sedition. Perhaps it is time to pursue criminal charges against those who believe they are above the law. We have failed to take a stand against actions to overthrow the rule of civil law since the Warren commission white washed the murder of John Kennedy. As long as we accept this behavior as normal and acceptable we have no chance to ever regain respect from the rest of the world let alone our own children. When the likes of Glen Beck rise to a level of importance that far exceeds their intelligence we have become Germany under Adolph Hitler. You need look no further than Dick Cheaney to prove my point.

Posted by: anOPINIONATEDsob | October 26, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me that the Reactionaries want to take full control of the Republican Party or start a rump third party by riding mostly on race prejudice because the President is an African-American. Let 'em wallow in their dirty stew.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | October 26, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

the question is...
who do you trust...
the dem who will tax you to death...
the Republican who is a rino...
or a Conservative who will say what they mean...
if you trust obama...
and few do...
why would you trust anybody but a conservative...

Posted by: DwightCollins | October 26, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

The moderate Republicans won't go down without a fight? Give me a break! They have already lost their party to the right wing lunatics who have taken over our streets and have now become the GOP mouthpieces in the House and Senate: Elected officials like Joe Wilson. Jim DeMint, Imhof, Kyle,and Bachmann, just to name a few. But Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity,Coulter and the others are the REAL faces of the New Republicans and those faces are continually contorted in anger and hate-filled rage. Screaming out against the non-white,the poor and the sick. That is the New Republican Party. It is too late for moderates - they have already been run out of the party. Palin is becoming a stronger voice than Gingrich. The conservative movement has become a mob of vigilantes and they are storming their way to Washington, D.C, pitchforks,torches and all.

Posted by: mawheelz | October 26, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

October 26, 2009

Conservatives Maintain Edge as Top Ideological Group


PRINCETON, NJ -- Conservatives continue to outnumber moderates and liberals in the American populace in 2009, confirming a finding that Gallup first noted in June. Forty percent of Americans describe their political views as conservative, 36% as moderate, and 20% as liberal. This marks a shift from 2005 through 2008, when moderates were tied with conservatives as the most prevalent group.

Changes among political independents appear to be the main reason the percentage of conservatives has increased nationally over the past year: the 35% of independents describing their views as conservative in 2009 is up from 29% in 2008. By contrast, among Republicans and Democrats, the percentage who are "conservative" has increased by one point each.

As is typical in recent years, Republicans are far more unified in their political outlook than are either independents or Democrats. While 72% of Republicans in 2009 call their views conservative, independents are closely split between the moderate and conservative labels (43% and 35%, respectively). Democrats are about evenly divided between moderates (39%) and liberals (37%).

2010 & 12 Cannot Come Soon Enough!!

Posted by: FraudObama | October 26, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Having lived in Upstate New York, one should note that the Conservative Party isn't just a fringe third party, it has real organization, and considerable membership. Often in Upstate elections the Republican candidate will appear on the ballot on multiples lines in addition to the Republican Line, just as Democrats will often appear on the ballot multiple times on both the Democratic Party and Liberal Party lines (among others). It is also not uncommon for the various third party candidates to field their own candidates if there is disagreement on platforms.

It would be interesting to see on how many of the other third party lines the Conservative candidate will also appear? Will he appear on the Libertarian Party line and the Right To Life Party line on the ballot? Will the Republican candidate appear on any of those lines?

Posted by: SUMB44 | October 26, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Better to be a teabagger than a teabaggee.

Posted by: PhilThijou | October 26, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I agree. The GOP is going the way of the dinosaur and the Whip party. Who really cares about Pailin? Except that she makes money making news every time she opens her quack fundamentalist mouth. I mean really...here is a woman with 2 years or less of actual political experience who QUIT her job as Alaskas Governor. And the pipeline? Forget it...its become more like a pipe dream that will never happen. Sister Sarah boggled that one too. The fast the GOP dies and fades into history, the better off the country will be.

Posted by: vintel7 | October 26, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Is the little pig from Alaska still in the circuit?

Posted by: analyst72 | October 26, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Some day, all you "less goverment" morons are going to get what you want. Then when things gowrong, you'll be asking why the goverment isn't doing more to help you.

See definition of "hypocrite".

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | October 26, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

The bigger issues is whether we will bankrupt our nation or not; whether we will allow "politics as usual" to destroy the future for our children and grandchildren.

Democrat or Republican labels don't much matter any longer. Being a responsible citizen/legislator does.

That's what the race is all about.

Posted by: Cdgaman | October 26, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

as someone who grew-up amongst straight-up bigots in southern west virginia may i paraphrase an old quote?
while all the conservatives i've known are not bigots, all of the bigots i have known are conservatives.

Posted by: boonerl | October 26, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

the question is...

who do you trust...
the dem who will tax you to death...
A. Republican Meme

the Republican who is a rino...
A. Maybe this is a Republican who wants to serve their constituents instead of the national party.

or a Conservative who will say what they mean...
A. Even if it is Bat Guano crazy; See Bachman, Michelle

if you trust obama...
and few do...
A. Really? Few in YOUR circle, perhaps. How can you say whether or not you can trust a newly elected president in his first year?
Sound like YOU don't trust him.

why would you trust anybody but a conservative
A. Because they are forced to support national party views that are out of step with the rest of the country in order to get the support of the party.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 26, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse


FraudObama wrote- "PRINCETON, NJ -- Conservatives continue to outnumber moderates and liberals in the American populace in 2009,"

Ok. What have you been smoking? Conservatives are polling at 20-23% in most polls and their numbers haven't changed since dubya left office. The GOP blew it with this country. Face the facts, your party can't govern its way out of a paper bag. The deep damage Bush and the Republicans did to this nation will not soon be forgotten by Americans. The GOP is simply on its way out...and fast.

Meanwhile- the popular vote for President Obama was 53% and his approval ratings are on the upswing again and have been holding steady at 53-58%. And this is in a time when the country is in the worst shape its ever been in its history due to Republican incompetence and failed policies. Failed governance and failed policies are always caused by a faulty ideology. The republican ideology simply is not in alignment with the Universe...with THE WAY THINGS ACTUALLY ARE. Do you think the Higher Power who created this planet and this Universe is going to allow the very people that damaged the planet to prosper? Nope..sorry. The Universe does not work like that. This is why nature is evolving more evolved souls for the future. Kids being born today are twice as smart as we were. The Global political direction is in the direction of the more evolved progressives...who are the party of compassion. Therefore progressives are ascendant and conservatives are on their way out. Thank God that Providence/Nature will not allow you morons any more power to destroy God's Earth with your greedy policies that do nothing but protect the business of war...ie Halliburton, Raytheon, and the fossil fuel business. The GOP is the party of pollution, no, nothing, guns, murder, and the killing of innocents. Do the world a favor and take all your guns and your gas hog chevy
SUVs and go away.

Posted by: vintel7 | October 26, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Attention Palin lovers! The Alaska Post just published a story showing how Hoffmann now has a commanding lead in the polls in N.Y. and is all but assured a victory, thanks to Palin!
Oh, wait, they're sourcing a website which strongly supports Palin and polled it's own hardcore conservative readers? WTF? Dad-burned Liberal Media!
Well, you Palinites don't give a fig about facts or credability anyway, so go on and get your feel good!

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | October 26, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

When I think of Sarah Palin, only when the media shoves her at us once again, I think of the words "Out of touch with the main stream, ill witted, ignorant, incompetent, quitter, irrelevant, obnoxious, a recurring rash, reckless, foolish, ex Governor of an ice berg and please someone tell this woman she lost.."

Posted by: Hillary08 | October 26, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

TooMuchSoccer: "mainstream GOP"

What is that? This is exactly the point: there IS not "mainstream GOP", just small tents whose only consistent message is "anybody but Democrats." The GOP is a house divided against itself.

Posted by: egc52556 | October 26, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

You have to be careful with terminology. Conservative Republicans are a combination of Plantation Republicans with a vision of a one party, Imperial(istic) Presidency; loony Crackpot Republican disinformation propagandists and war mongering Neocons. This is a far cry from conservative. Will Steve Forbes be leading this merry band to the Presidency?

If we go with a one party Imperial Presidency, we could cut government in half, instant small government. Obviously, the Republican Plantation Imperialists want to toss out the Constitution, so it makes sense to accuse the opposing party of the very same thing. What is the opposite of socialism? Democracy or a Monarchy?

So who will support the Republican Moderates that want us to remain a Democracy along with the Democrats?

Posted by: Beacon2 | October 26, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Somehow I doubt that any district in NY will vote for Creationism.

Posted by: whereareweandwhatarewedoinginthishandbasket | October 26, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Past: Dems lost, Repubs won, Country lost.

Present: Dems won, Repubs lost, Country won.

Future: Dems undo Bush, Repubs obstruct and self-destruct, Country wins

Simple enough for ya?

Posted by: normich2 | October 26, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

The real winner in all this? Palin.

Posted by: NoWeCant | October 26, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

The object of funny mental lust, yet again receives unmerited WaPo attention. When will this obsession end?

Posted by: whocares666 | October 26, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

johnchambers

These opinions sound like children cheering for their team...

Better pay attention to what "cdgaman" said

The bigger issues is whether we will bankrupt our nation or not; whether we will allow "politics as usual" to destroy the future for our children and grandchildren.

Democrat or Republican labels don't much matter any longer. Being a responsible citizen/legislator does.


Posted by: johnchambers | October 26, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

"The Tea Party is against taxation without representation. The Tea Party is against intrusion. "
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Where were these people before we had a black man in the WHite house?

Posted by: JRM2 | October 26, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin? Do you mean the fraud who used to be Governor of Alaska but quit because she couldn't handle the job? Are you talking about the glorified spokesmodel who got exposed during the last Presidential election for being a charlatan with an itty bitty mind? Are you talking about that Sarah Palin? What a political success story! She used to have the weight and the gravitas of the Alaska Governor's office behind her. Now she's reduced to posting on Facebook like some pimply-faced high schooler. Priceless.

Posted by: sonny2 | October 26, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

johnchambers

These opinions sound like children cheering for their team...

Better pay attention to what "cdgaman" said

The bigger issues is whether we will bankrupt our nation or not; whether we will allow "politics as usual" to destroy the future for our children and grandchildren.

Democrat or Republican labels don't much matter any longer. Being a responsible citizen/legislator does.
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Puh-leeeze...spare us all the 'save the children' line.

I never heard it when we started bombing Iraq...
Or when we started giving my tax money to Iraqi warlords to stop blowing us up (we called that "The Surge")...
Or when we burdened our education system with stupid arbitrary testing and a bureaucratic maelstrom that sucks our money and our childrens' education down the drain (We called that No Child Left Behind')...

And most of all, I won't be hearing that cry from the Right when it comes to Climate legislation.

The Right only cares about 'the children' to cover their greed, and disagreement with giving ALL Americans an equal chance at education, health, and prosperity.


Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | October 26, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

The downfall of the GOP started when the GOP embraced the fundamentalist Taliban right wing, Southern white bigots who espouse & promote xenophobia,Islamohobia,homophobia, a Neo-Con policy that encourages anti-Americanism around the world, it is time for moderate Republicans to wake up & realize the party of Eisenhower,Gerald Ford, Christinne Todd Whittman has been hijacked by the Sarah Palins, Tom DeLays,Tom Tancredos,Jim Demints,Jeff Sessions. The Democratic party offers the moderate Republicans a better alternative than the party of George "W" Bush, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter & Michelle Malkin.

Posted by: yog2541 | October 26, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a Bimbo.


Posted by: lindalovejones | October 26, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a Bimbo.


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At the moment, Sarah Palin is the most powerful politician in America. Like her or not, every time she makes a public remark, every media outlet in the country picks it up and runs with it. The Democrats continually try to trash her because they are scared spitless of her.

Posted by: mike85 | October 26, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Why does anyone in NY State give a rat's ass about what Palin thinks? She's a self-aggrandizing boob who knows nothing.

Posted by: EdSantaFe | October 26, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

mr.chabers:
i agree that a lot of these arguments can get childish, but i for one have gotten sick and tired of being called less of a christian, patriot and all the other slights these right-wing nuts throw at anybody who disagrees with them.it's time to fight back, even though these people constantly cast themselves as victims while twisting thrir knives in a little deeper.

Posted by: boonerl | October 26, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow, no kidding? What color is the sky in your world?

Posted by: sonny2 | October 26, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

what are you talking about sonny?

Posted by: boonerl | October 26, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Karl Marx Endorses Dede Scozzafava!
http://02e56fa.netsolhost.com/blog1/index.php/2009/10/26/song-karl-marx-dede-marx-endorses-dede-s

Posted by: panto1455 | October 26, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

would some of you conservatives tell me why you think the liberals are afraid of Palin?

As far as I can tell the emotion they're feeling can best be described as "glee."

Sure, some of them hate her, at least that's what they're saying. But if we add up the abject worship and love some on your side are exhibiting I think we can safely say these people should just be ignored. You know, get a life and all that.

As far as I'm concerned, she's making a lot of money off of this juvenile war you're having with the liberals. More power to her, it's the American way.

Posted by: katavo | October 26, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin should "pull a Hillary Clinton" by relocating to New York.
At least it wouldn't be as bad as relocating from Kenya by way of Hawaii and Chicago.

Posted by: tncdel | October 26, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

you birthers sure are tenacious. dumb but tenacious.

Posted by: boonerl | October 26, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Owens by 5 points. More Democrats in Congress. Yay! We got all the money, all the power and all the fun.

Posted by: roboturkey | October 26, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

gengar843 wrote:
(3) Why do you think the Tea Party is the Klan? Don't you know that the Tea Party has a cross-section of America in it: white, black, Oriental, man, woman, gay, straight. How can you not know this?
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Aahahahaha1 Good one! Obviously, you've never been to a tea party...because they're whiter than a klan robe fresh from the cleaners.
Love the 'Oriental' reference, btw.

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Spot on! LOL too.

Posted by: sr31 | October 26, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Didn't we hear enough about Palin to turn us off our feed?

Please, please allow the GOP to implode.

I suppose that it's good to get updates regarding what the self-serving, wacko is up to, but it really causes some discomfort.

As always the depressing aspect of Palin is the groups that actually follow and find something worthwhile about her. Scary really.

Sarah, damage the conservatives and disfigure the republican party beyond description .... then just please frigg'n get lost in the wild tundra.

Posted by: Topper2u | October 26, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse


vintel7
here you go
there are many more conservatives

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FraudObama wrote- "PRINCETON, NJ -- Conservatives continue to outnumber moderates and liberals in the American populace in 2009,"

Ok. What have you been smoking? Conservatives are polling at 20-23% in most polls and their numbers haven't changed since dubya left office. The GOP blew it with this country. Face the facts, your party can't govern its way out of a paper bag. The deep damage Bush and the Republicans did to this nation will not soon be forgotten by Americans. The GOP is simply on its way out...and fast.

Meanwhile- the popular vote for President Obama was 53% and his approval ratings are on the upswing again and have been holding steady at 53-58%. And this is in a time when the country is in the worst shape its ever been in its history due to Republican incompetence and failed policies. Failed governance and failed policies are always caused by a faulty ideology. The republican ideology simply is not in alignment with the Universe...with THE WAY THINGS ACTUALLY ARE. Do you think the Higher Power who created this planet and this Universe is going to allow the very people that damaged the planet to prosper? Nope..sorry. The Universe does not work like that. This is why nature is evolving more evolved souls for the future. Kids being born today are twice as smart as we were. The Global political direction is in the direction of the more evolved progressives...who are the party of compassion. Therefore progressives are ascendant and conservatives are on their way out. Thank God that Providence/Nature will not allow you morons any more power to destroy God's Earth with your greedy policies that do nothing but protect the business of war...ie Halliburton, Raytheon, and the fossil fuel business. The GOP is the party of pollution, no, nothing, guns, murder, and the killing of innocents. Do the world a favor and take all your guns and your gas hog chevy
SUVs and go away.

Posted by: vintel7 | October 26, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse
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PRINCETON, NJ -- Conservatives continue to outnumber moderates and liberals in the American populace in 2009, confirming a finding that Gallup first noted in June. Forty percent of Americans describe their political views as conservative, 36% as moderate, and 20% as liberal. This marks a shift from 2005 through 2008, when moderates were tied with conservatives as the most prevalent group

Posted by: charlietuna666 | October 26, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

EJ;

How does it feel to be one the president's pet journalists now? Keep up the good work propagandizing every possible issue as you ignore the elephant in the living room.

The president and his programs are becoming increasingly unpopular as he resorts to ever more propaganda and divisiveness.

Posted by: oceanaris | October 26, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Obviously you are ignorant of the latest Bombshell. A conservative bloger at http://www.robbingamerica.blogspot.com just broke the news with a shocking comparison of the polls in NY district 23 Before/and/After the Sarah Palin's endorsement. Go to the sight and be prepared for a shocker. A sign of things to come!

Posted by: JohnGalt9 | October 26, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a Bimbo.


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At the moment, Sarah Palin is the most powerful politician in America. Like her or not, every time she makes a public remark, every media outlet in the country picks it up and runs with it. The Democrats continually try to trash her because they are scared spitless of her.

Posted by: mike85 | October 26, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a private citizen, you idiot. She isn't a politician. She holds no office. She has no political authority at all. She is a private citizen. If she has influence as a private citizen it's because there are still a few epically stupid people buying tickets to her carnival tent show.

Posted by: dfc102 | October 26, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

I think Sarah Palin should move to NY and run for the seat herself.

Hilary did it.

Posted by: joy5 | October 26, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

My question is: How would "Death Panel" Palin know the difference? Someone would have to point out the candidates, show her the symbols, write them down for cheat notes, explain the differences and give her a quiz before her proclamation is issued. Don't ask her what a proclamation is; she'd be on overload and screw it up and go for the conservative instead of the Party of NO! Oops! I ment to go conservative (wink-wink)!

Posted by: robjen116 | October 26, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

No wonder only 20% of the country identify themselves as liberals. That is coincidentally the same number absolute idiots residing here too.

Posted by: MikeJ9116 | October 26, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Palin v.s. Reality, honesty, and facts
she is a shamless political oppertunist.
She proves Washington was right....
However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.
GEORGE WASHINGTON, Farewell Address, Sep. 17, 1796

Posted by: jpenergy | October 26, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

The definition of "conservative" is what I find interesting. Rush loves Cheney and yet it was Cheney who claimed that Reagan proved deficits don't matter.

Thus the liberal Clinton balanced the budget and the "conservative" Bush ran up the deficit, both with a republican congress.

Posted by: alstl | October 26, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

The Watertown, NY newspaper ran an interesting editorial board discussion with Hoffman. He knew basically nothing about issues in the district but couldn't care less.
Don't these idiots know that the Republicans in NY are of the more moderate stripe and Scozzafava is a for the district. The NY congressional delegation has only 3 Republicans , down from a recent 9. The Repubs are 0 reps in New England and are about to expand that losing streak to NY.

Posted by: pb185 | October 26, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Writing from the Midwest here, what will happen is that the Palin endorsement will do Hoffman no good except confirm that he is in the right-wing of the Republican Party in NY. Ms. Scozzafava, a moderate by any measure, will lose because the vote has been split and the Democratic candidate will win. It will confirm what most of us see in the country which is that the GOP has unfortunately been overtaken by its extremely conservative wing and unable to function effectively. What I mean is that they grasp onto static ideas and anyone who disagrees with them or tries to hoe a middle road is somehow demonized. This may be what the GOP needs: a complete rendering and splitting. Hopefully Palin will try to run as a third party candidate and draw out most of the dysfunctional members of the GOP. This will allow them to clean house and get back to being a necessary force in the politival system. Until this occurs I see a bleak future for them at the national level.

Posted by: am1968 | October 26, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin is the best thing to happen to the dem party. With her tearing apart her own party there will be no need to campaign. there's not going to be much left of the GOP once she's done.

Posted by: the_brainwashed_one | October 27, 2009 12:26 AM | Report abuse

The republican party is in danger of going too far and becoming unredeemable. As it is, they've already crossed the line in the minds of many voters. There are an awful lot of very angry American voters who will never vote republican again.

To listen to hate radio, you'd think that America was furious at President Obama and the Democratic party. Backed up by the Fox news of polling, Rassmussen, rightwingers think that they're about to ride a wave of anti Democratic anger back into power. What the Drugster, Rush Limbaugh fails to mention is the true wave of anger in America. It started to grow very early in Bush's term and got exponentially bigger every passing year. Does the rightwing think that America will forget, much less forgive those years? It's going to take a bit more than a few months out of office.

Posted by: fredfawcett | October 27, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

If the comments from conservatives on this board are any indication of the mindset of the majority of republican voters the republicans are doomed to be a fringe party.

Posted by: exbrown | October 27, 2009 7:21 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin would endorse David Duke if he were running. Sarah Palin represents the worst in Americans, especially since she wears her stupidity as a badge of honor. And now she is laughing her way to the bank everyday.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | October 27, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

mike85 (below) The Dems are not "scared spitless" of Sarah Palin because she is a threat, they are "scared spitless" because they are witnessing a dumbing of America. Fact is Sarah Palin is the best thing for America and the Dems. While she has strong support amongst 25% of the most ignorant Americans the rest ARE scared spitless, just not for the reasons you think.

I'd be scared spitless also if Hitler were running, basically he had the same platform and appealed to the same mentality and look were that got Germany.

At the moment, Sarah Palin is the most powerful politician in America. Like her or not, every time she makes a public remark, every media outlet in the country picks it up and runs with it. The Democrats continually try to trash her because they are scared spitless of her.

Posted by: mike85 | October 26, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rcc_2000 | October 27, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Throwing in with the Club for Growth .... just another sign that Palin ain't too bright. We already knew Thompson was a dumbazz. What is the Club for Growth's record in these skirmishes? Have they EVER won one?

Posted by: dpand1 | October 27, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Scozzafava and Sen. Susan Collins are not "moderates".

Posted by: ttj1 | October 27, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is the most popular politician in America? The very thought of that is enough to make me sick. Sarah Palin? You actually believe that pile of horse puckey?

This is the same pile of BS that we are getting all over the media today. Bil Kristol is touting a poll showing 40% of Americans are willing to label themselves as conservative and he thinks that is a winner? Doen't it actually mean that 60% of the American people are refusing to call themselves conservative?

Look. This is not Britain or Germany or Italy where we have a mutiplicity of political parties. We boil ours down to two. We are a republic. If you can't win enough votes to get the nomination of one of our two parties, you have no power.

Come back to me in 2012 after yoiu republicans have nominated Sarah Palin. Then and only then can we test that silly hypothesis.

Posted by: jaxas | October 27, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Who is The Tea Party planning to run for President in 2012?

Certainly all the bus tours can produce just one viable candidate with a coherent Tea Party platform.

VP?

Film at eleven on Fox News

Posted by: averddy | October 27, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Great Americans?

Who is The Tea Party planning to run for President in 2012?

Certainly all the bus tours can produce just one viable candidate with a coherent Tea Party platform.

VP?

Film at eleven on Fox News

Posted by: averddy | October 27, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Yes republicans, grab your torches and pitchforks, drive up to New York, form a lynch mob, and drive out the unbelievers.

Let me know how that works out for ya.

Doncha know, wink wink goes the barfly.

Posted by: Heerman532 | October 27, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Palin's endorsement seems just a little divisional.

All I can remember is the article by Andrew Sullivan, "The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin: A Round-Up" in July of 2009...interesting articles. It actually list the lies told by Palin. (there were a lot) It was thorough and an assessment made by fact check...

The definition of rogue is:
1 : vagrant, tramp
2 : a dishonest or worthless person : scoundrel
3 : a mischievous person : scamp
4 : a horse inclined to shirk or misbehave
5 : an individual exhibiting a chance and usually inferior biological variation

It fits well. Face book is for SOCIAL networking not policy development from someone unemployed....

I still love this country...


Posted by: lindarc | October 27, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

With only 1 in 5 Americans (20%) labeling themselves "Republicans", I really don't think Democrats have much to worry about in terms of elections. As non-whites continue to grow in numbers in America, the G.O.P. (the party of old, white southern racists) will continue to lose elections with greater frequency until moderate Republicans break away and form a new political party. Until then, Republicans can keep defining themselves by the Sarah Palins and Rush Limbaughs of the world.

Posted by: Caliguy55 | October 27, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm thrilled that TooMuchSoccer considers Sarah Palin a "mainstream" Republican. Guarantees a Democratic majority for years to come. Starting in NY's 23rd CD.

Posted by: StevefromSacto | October 27, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Teatards are a shrinking minority made of mentally and culturally retarded white Southern Christian evangelical racists.

But that's all that's left of the Republic party after the total failure of George W. Bush.

The Bush years were a nightmare for America and only a profoundly retarded Southern racist would want to continue the same policies.

That's why America gave the Democrats the House, Senate, and White House.

No one trusts Republicans to do anything right, they are the party of crazy hillbillies and they always will be from here on out.

The Democrats are the coalition of liberals and moderates in this country, they represent 75% of the nation and all the important debates are going to occur within the party while the Repugs sit on the sidelines and cry.

That's just the truth, not that I would expect a teatard to understand any of that.

Posted by: ottoparts | October 27, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

The neocons posting here really should eat more fish, I hear it is brain food. Cry and point fingers, name calling solves nothing. You want a conservative with at least some ideas, the guy you knocked out of the box because he had a funny first name and was a Mormon, Mitt Romney. While not perfect MA. healthcare is far better than just about everywhere in the country. You back Palin whom one day attacks end of life counseling, and then has a rally for living wills.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 27, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Palin made the easy choice to step down as governor and people knock her for it. Stay face ethics charges and assembly full of people she wronged like Lydia Green or spend 1/10th the time making more than 20 times the coin. Good for her she is cashing out, I have no problem with it. I do have a problem for what Colin Powell said, she is not capable of doing the job of POTUS.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 27, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

To the blue or red pundits a fact, the largest growing voter registration is independent. America is fed up with both parties.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 27, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Palin the Grand Bimbo of the Repuke party.

Posted by: Classic60 | October 27, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

"The GOP is about as popular as syphilis.

Posted by: ottoparts "

But a lot less fun to catch!

Posted by: thrh | October 27, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

ottoparts, you Democrat pukes are so clueless.

You have no idea how bad it's going to be next time we're in power, but to give you a hint, you'll never see another Democrat run for office!

Posted by: muawiyah | October 27, 2009 10:08 PM | Report abuse

"ottoparts, you Democrat pukes are so clueless.

You have no idea how bad it's going to be next time we're in power, but to give you a hint, you'll never see another Democrat run for office!

Posted by: muawiyah"
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So you're planning on suspending the Constitution and banning the Democratic Party? Boy, THAT will sure get you some votes outside the radical right hinterlands. I'm soooooooooooo scared, I'm shaking in my sneakers.

Posted by: windrider2 | October 27, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

LOVE Palin. Absolutely no Conservative guilt. Can't hear the criticism - we all have flaws.

HATE Progressive. HATE Agenda 21 and sustainability. And YES, if clean water means supreme government control, HATE clean water.

BACK TO BUSINESS: Hoffman - don't know him, but must be better than Dede. Don't live in New York, but a good test case for Conservatism and a lesson for us all no matter which way it goes. Gingrich is way off base - he is not our spokesman, and anyone who says otherwise is a Democrat saying "Get back in place, schweinhundt!" Screw you, whoever would order us.

LOVE Palin. Why? She's the Energizer Bunny.

Posted by: gengar843 | October 28, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

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