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Quit complaining about Obama's 'insensitivity' to women

By Jo-Ann Armao

Apparently, it’s not enough that President Obama has appointed more women to his Cabinet and Cabinet-level positions in his first year in office than any president before him. Or that he’s good on issues important to many women. Or that he’s never seemed to mind sharing the stage -- personally and professionally -- with strong women. Because the president likes to shoot some hoops with the guys, he’s now being criticized for insensitivity to women. What, to steal the president’s words, a bunch of bunk.

Women’s advocates and liberal bloggers, the New York Times reported over the weekend, are criticizing Obama for hosting an all-male basketball game earlier this month. It’s supposedly indicative of how the president excludes women from decision making in what’s been described as a “boy’s club” atmosphere of the White House.

I recognize the value of face time with the boss. I also can identify with what the Times called the “collective eye-roll” of White House women toward the “sports-fan thing ” -- one of the reasons I dislike Monday mornings is having to put up with hearing how those Redskins, Bills, Gators, (fill in the blank) did. It's a big leap, though, to suggest that because Obama plays basketball with a bunch of guys that he’s dismissive of women. I don’t know about your circle of friends, but in mine it’s not all that unusual for men to play basketball with other men. And for women to pursue their interests with other women.

If, as the Times suggested, Obama’s female advisers are being elbowed out of the way by men such as Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, it may well be due to his skills in the game -- the political one. Women who don’t want to be marginalized would do well to stop taking the easy way out -- and that is what blaming gender insensitivity in this way is.

By Jo-Ann Armao  | October 26, 2009; 1:30 PM ET
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I didn't vote for Obama and have been quick to criticize much of what he has done (or failed to do) in his presidency so far. But, I agree with him 100% that this line of criticism is a huge, steaming pile of bunk. If the man wants to play basketball with the guys, then let him play (same goes for golf)! The fact of the matter is having a woman in the game changes it, and generally not for the better (and I say this as a woman and a sports enthusiast). There is plenty about which to criticism Obama---this just isn't one of them.

Posted by: arlingtonresident | October 26, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I'll be the first to criticize Obama for being a card carrying member of the boys club when it comes to dragging his feet on getting us out of Iraq and storming on into Afghanistan like a rhinestone cowboy. War hurts women and children more than it hurts anyone else. However, shooting hoops? Get real. I can't believe anyone cares. Are you sure you aren't making this up to cause trouble?

Posted by: SarahBB | October 26, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

So Jo-Ann, you dislike monday mornings with all the talk about the Redskins, Caps, etc. Well, you know what? I doslike all the effing times I have to listen to you dopey women yak yak yak incessantly about inane bull$h!t like the color of you shoes, you effing periods, shopping, etc. etc. etc. JUST STFU!

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | October 26, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I think you are missing the point. As long as Obama is willing to have face time with women, then hanging with the guys is okay.
Is golf also only a male sport or do women play golf? I guess Obama only wants to get to know men and exclude women on the golf course. Friendships and Deals are made in these informal settings. If Obama golfs with only the guys 26 times and then includes a gal once. I think that is saying a lot. If women continue to be excluded from the boys club, the rest of the world will elect women leaders, as they have before backward USA.

Posted by: humanrace | October 26, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

you people are something else,can't think of any thing else to criticize this president for,but his basketball games?
even looney tune birthers and tea baggers made more sense than this.
you guys have a few more years to go, have you peaked too soon?
let this man govern, leave him alone, vote him out next time.
if you had any credibility it is all gone now.
next you'll complain about the color of his drawers, pick your battles.
you've lost this one.

Posted by: ninnafaye | October 26, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

SarahBB: "War hurts women and children more than it hurts anyone else." Are you for real? Who's that leave, men? Men don't get hurt by war because they aren't fathers, brothers, husbands, uncles, sons, what? The (H)Air Force should take female chauvinists like you and Gloria Steinem and parachute them into the Middle-East. You whiners can walk-the-talk and put a little backbone into the oppressed in those countries! What an idiotic thing to say. And really, Jo-Ann! Quoting the NY Times about liberal bloggers? Slow news day or what?

Posted by: tdavis11 | October 26, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

30 rounds of golf with the boys, and not one woman invited.

Imagine the howls if it had been 30 rounds of golf by bush and not one black invited..
(12% of the population vs 51%)

Obama is an arse

Posted by: tru-indy | October 26, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

oopsie, it seems tha author of this column doesn't know about the 30 rounds of golf with just the boys in his admin.

Ignorance seems to a trademark of the Obama excusers

Posted by: tru-indy | October 26, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

humanrace and ninnafaye: You've not only missed the point, you've gone off the deep end. If you think deals are made or broken on the links, you've never played the game. You know what happens out there? You try to hit a little ball with a long stick better this time than you did the last. You breathe and enjoy a little down time. You don't think about ways to insult others because they have differing opinions or concerns, ninnyfaye! Besides, the article isn't bashing the holy hero, kool-aid drinkerfaye, she's quoting the NY Times! Take a pill, dude!

Posted by: tdavis11 | October 26, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Why is Obama shooting hoops anyway, or playing golf? Doesn't he have something better to do than play games (for example, Afganistan)? If he wants to play childish games, why doesn't he play with his children? If he wants to work out for health reasons, why doesn't he just lift weights or use the tread mill? Obama should try to act like a responsible grownup instead of someone who is trying to hold on to his youth. His behavior is unbecoming, in my opinion. I really wonder how he finds the time to goof off.

Posted by: tina5 | October 26, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

tina5, shouldn't you be typing or filing something, preparing a brief, editing an item? What a piece of work! FDR swam, Teddy killed bears and mooses (meese?), Clinton boinked his interns. Man does not live by whatever, alone! What are you, a puritan or just a hypocrite? Please don't call yourself a conservative! And whatever happened to reading comprehension in this country? Most of you people sound stupider than your comments!

Posted by: tdavis11 | October 26, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

adrienne_najjar and tru-indy, you guys just need to go away.

Posted by: tdavis11 | October 26, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Tina - you are out of touch with reality. it does not matter who someone is, at some point, that person (given that they are human) needs time to relax.

you trying to suggest that running on a treadmill is more grownup then playing a game of basketball shows your ignorance...and well, lack of intelligence.

And how is someone playing basketball holding onto their youth?!?! Maybe holding onto their HEALTH is the better word choice. But again, you clearly aren't suited to be passing judgments.

SarahBB - "storming on into Afghanistan like a rhinestone cowboy." - no, you are confusing Obama with McCrystal. McCrystal is the one trying to get 40,000+ troops to Afghanistan. Obama and the Pentagon are the ones waiting to see if this is really needed.

Posted by: bryangirkins | October 26, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Some people here are really getting their undies in a bundle. It's a Sunday afternoon golf game -- not the work week. And it's the gestalt and sum of the interactions. I think he's doing just fine. Just chill.

Posted by: chicago11 | October 26, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Its a misstep and its not about 'insensitivity': what he's doing is creating more opportunities for only his male staffers to interact with him socially. And that has *always* made a difference in the workplace, whether intentional or not.
And seriously - he should know better than to convene an all-male ANYTHING, he's only in the most visible job in the world..!

Posted by: dllydggr | October 26, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Tru-Indy
It's thinking like that that has the Republican party where it is today. Great strategic thinking. Keep it up!

Posted by: lewfournier1 | October 26, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

In response to a building wave of criticism that her weekend shopping trips are sexist, Michelle Obama today quietly snuck away from Camp David hunting for shoes with Rahm Emanuel in tow. Emanuel (pictured above struggling to haul a full bag of Jimmy Choo’s) apparently was taught the basics of shoe shopping by his mother who knew that if he wanted to get ahead in Washington someday he would have to be able to swap strappy sandal stories. “Let’s face it,” Emanuel reportedly confided to an aide last week, “most every state dinner guest list, who’s in and who’s out with the First Lady, is determined on those shopping excursions. If you want to trade elbows with the big girls, and get the latest East Wing dirt, you’ve got to be there.” It is not clear whether Emanuel purchased anything on the trip.

Posted by: joej1 | October 26, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I think the issue is that there are at least two women who played B-Ball in College, and if they are not being invited to play because they are women, that is an issue. Of course they might not want to play, but how is not inviting them to play at a co-worker event at the White House not discrimination?

Posted by: Muddy_Buddy_2000 | October 26, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

The basketball is a stupid side issue. I disagree, however with the initial assessment of Obama as an ally to feminist causes. While he is not an enemy, he certainly was willing to go there with stereotyping his female opponent in the primaries and not prevent those in his campaign from stereotyping his female co-opponent in the generals. In the first case, he allowed his campaign to play her as the lady MacBeth, in the second, he allowed the focus to be on the accomplished governors "ditziness" rather than her horrendous policies.

Posted by: NYClefty | October 26, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

What's even more insulting is that Obama and the guys he hangs out with are SOOO macho.

Posted by: Wallenstein | October 26, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

My, my, my, what foolishness have you haters come up with now? Whether you're a liberal or conservative woman, black, white asian, hispanic or whatever ethnic group, this is the height of foolishness. If President Obama called it a bunch of bunk then I totally agree. Get a life and stop being such a nag. Its good to see the comments of some fair minded people who have accepted the fact that President Obama has been elected, but for some to try and critize the fact the President for inviting a group of men to play in a pick-up basketball game is really over the top at trying to drum up foolishness, and again I say get a life. Should some of you have been invited? Did George Bush, Dick Cheney, or any of the other Presidents invite women out to go hunting, or fishing. Did you complain about that? Get real ladies, it appears the person who thought of this foolishness is full of class, the problem is its all low. My last word is anyone (including the President) who wants to get together with some friends and participate in some friendly recreation should be able to do so without fear of some special interest group or cry baby hollering they're excluding this group or that group, think about it.

Posted by: young1jay | October 26, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Man, I feel bad wasting my time even commenting on a non-story like this. Guys need guy time doesn't matter if they are POTUS or a janitor what's the big deal. I really don't think any policy decisions are being hammered out during these games that are likely not lasting more than an hour...but in all fairness I would pay big money to see Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer, HRC, Snowe or any other female power broker play basketball against the Prez. Then when one of them gets an elbow in the nose the headline will be "Obama abuses women in pickup basketball game"...sheesh get a life! :0)

Posted by: russ4 | October 26, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Aren't most, if not all the men playing in this game former high level High School, if not college or NBAPlayers? Claiming that high level athletes aren't macho on the B-ball court is a little like claiming the ex-cheerleader Bush the lessor was more macho than ex starting Quarter Back Gore.
That is the one reason that even the ex-college level women in the adminstration might not want to play.

Posted by: Muddy_Buddy_2000 | October 26, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

How about looking at, detailing, and analyzing a woman's hyper-sensitivity to not being noticed by men?

seems just as adequate an explanation, ladies.

Why else would you dress up like it's hallowe'en every day - you know, make up, perfumes, all that stuff that makes you appealing to others ?

Get over yourselves, maybe a perspective that you can work with will develop. Maybe.

The mere idea that you feel slighted, ladies, speaks volumes about your innate insecurities, so of course, you complain.

Maybe you'll get it right eventually.

Posted by: pgibson1 | October 26, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Got to love the irony of the fact that the affirmative action, PC president gets a taste of his own medicine - that is being FORCED to associate with some one not based on their merits or his personal desire but based on nothing but PC on steroids. Since she was black I guess we can take a page from the lib--turds play book and continue to p^ss and moan until he plays golf with a white female staff member.

Posted by: Bcamp55 | October 26, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

If he is looking for a sport where men and women can compete fairly evenly I would suggest volleyball. There may be several women who played in college, but take it from a 5'9" tall man, someone Obama's height would just clean our clocks. As far as golf goes, he seems to be bad enough at it that if one of the women in his cabinet wants to play they better be used to four letter words.

Posted by: ThomasFiore | October 26, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

PLease note that Title IX of the education amendments (1972) put college women on the competitive map. Some colleges now have a woman at the helm as athletic director. Softball, track, swimming, rowing, basketball, skiing have all made tremendous progress. Indeed, we now have a women's professional basketball league. However, I am not aware of any college sports that support co-ed competitions, where men and women are teamed up. Even the international sports events, keep men and women in separate brackets. Even in marathon's (where women are considered to have better endurance than men) there is man's winner and a woman's winner (the times are recorded as separate).

So I am not sure what all of the fuss is about regarding Obama's basketball "league" of men. Obama and his regular players are attempting to manage stress, and keep sharp both on and off the BB court.

At my local gym, there are two sports that allow men and women to compete: racquetball, and aerobics. did you know racquetball is considered an anaerobic (like weight lifting)?

Posted by: rmorris391 | October 26, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Washington Post, I guess you guys will let anybody comment on your site. Pretty good way to get the juices flowing, all this cross-talk and counter opinionating (add to dictionary). This kind of civil discourse is what freedom of speech and the first amendment is all about. Do you suppose the WH reads any of this? Or do they have a special filter that just allows the pro-Obama - pro-liberal comments? I have an inquiring mind and I'd like to know!

Posted by: tdavis11 | October 26, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Today's whiner about Obama being "anti-feminist" because he doesn't play basketball with women is tomorrow's grey-haired spinster living in a shoebox-sized apartment with 17 cats.

Posted by: castanea | October 26, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

FYI, i will be playing basketball today at a park. any women who want to play, please come so that you don't feel slighted and claim i am discriminating.

Posted by: bryangirkins | October 26, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Obama is criticized for everything he does or doesn't do. If he drinks a Coke, he should be drinking tea. If he works with his suit coat on, he should take it off. Heaven help him is he takes time to play golf or shoot some hoops; he should be solving world problems. He even got blamed for taking time to have a family portrait made; he was wasting time.
For Obama haters nothing he does or will do will be the correct thing to do.
I hope Obama continues to call such comments "bunk"; that's what it really is.

Posted by: cej62107 | October 26, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Those oh-so sensitve darlings ought to learn how to shoot hoops.

If they don't want to let them form a quilting club or a knitting circle.

Posted by: battleground51 | October 26, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

For a person of public office, somebody will always find something wrong with what you are doing. Always. I try not to use that word often but in this case I think it's true.

My advice: quit complaining and writing about people's insensitivity towards Obama.

I know that every article doesn't have to be front page news, but it's starting to feel like every day we read about some small crazy group of people who do not approve of whatever it is Obama has done within the past week.

Posted by: legendarypunk | October 26, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Summary of the above 100 posts: I'm just going to insult and attack everyone regardless of everything!! No matter what the poster writes, I WILL DISAGREE and get super-angry and insulting about it. I will get crazy mad on the anti-Obama side then I'll get crazy mad on the pro-Obama side. Everyone's wrong but me! Look at me! I'm a nut!!!!

My question: Is all that really necessary?

Posted by: Urnesto | October 26, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

It's not like being a White House staffer is a big career move or anything. I mean, it's only an eight-year gig at best, right? Besides, I'm not sure that potentially whooping your boss's butt on the boards is the best career move anyway.

Posted by: bobsewell | October 26, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I really don't care who Obama plays basketball with--what a complete non-issue.

On the other hand, Gator football is a serious issue, Jo-Ann. GO GATORS!

Posted by: pepperjade | October 26, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Ms. Armeo. If women working in the WH report that they are being mistreated, not taken seriously, denied promotion, or harassed, then I will worry. But Obama's use of his recreation time is really not something that concerns me. If you're going to criticize him, criticize him for his job, not his free time.

Posted by: Katya2 | October 26, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

When Obama goes upstairs to private quarters he sits down to dinner with 4 women - Mother in law included. That is 4 one 1!!

I guess like all men he needs some male friends! What's the big deal!!


Posted by: jjcrocket2 | October 26, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Leave the man's personal recreation alone. What a pile of steaming crap to even suggest that his personal recreation time has to be approved by ANYONE outside of his family.

Posted by: vickie105 | October 26, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Pres. Obama's statement that it's "bunk".

Strange how these white males and females at these majority white MSM newspapers; TV stations; etc. are trying to make a big deal about who Pres. Obama "plays" with. All the talk about who is going to replace Diane Sawyer - no females; blacks; Asian names are mentioned but I don't hear MSM talking about that.

Posted by: rlj1 | October 26, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

oopsie, it seems tha author of this column doesn't know about the 30 rounds of golf with just the boys in his admin.

Ignorance seems to a trademark of the Obama excusers

Posted by: tru-indy | October 26, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

++++++
They have to get up mighty early in the morning to get one past you! Oopsie indeed. You are not ignorant - no way - just a dim bulb.

Posted by: vickie105 | October 26, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

What they should have is co-ed orgies. If Obama excluded the women from the White House romps, now that would be disturbing.

Posted by: danielcmalloy | October 26, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Just goes to show you that no matter what a man does, women are never satisfied.

Posted by: ahashburn | October 26, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

My father, a quiet man, a WWII bomber squadron veteran, grew weary of my mother's constant commentary on just about any subject, anytime, anywhere. He bought a little sign: "Man wants but little and is easily pleased, but woman, bless her heart, wants everything she sees."

Posted by: rdl114 | October 26, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I would be concerned if Obama were avoiding basketball with females, and angry if he suggested that it is "not a sport for gals". However, we don't know what his social circles are like - people tend to do sports with people they know who are interested and of similar skill levels, and he may not be personally close to any females who play those sports. Personal recreation is not a PR event - people won't go to great ends to be representative in their personal lives.

We should assume it to be innocent unless he says something - I doubt most of us have perfectly statistically even distributions of friends. If we don't have a Chinese friend to go out drinking with, that doesn't necessarily say anything about how we feel about Chinese people.

Posted by: pgunn1 | October 26, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

@ adrienne_najjar -

You said it all. Right on.

Posted by: TomPaine76 | October 26, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

dllydggr, that ridiculous. No all male anything? All male or all female activities are entirely appropriate for any number of thing-take rest rooms for one. Take your gynocentered world view and stuff it.

Posted by: IsaacCrocket | October 26, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Its time to ACT. Lets ship all these little whiners to Sierra Leone or Zimbabwe so they have a REAL ISSUE to complain about. These advocates should be complaining for the mistreatment of women in another countries, rather than crying because they didn't get to hand over the towel during recess at the game. Its ENOUGH. GET A JOB.

Posted by: R3N364D3 | October 26, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

A drunken Kool-Aid drinker offers lame defense of sexist president. Val Jarrett, who is Mrs. Obama's second cousin (Google it) is hardly cover for this administration's marginalizing of women.
To extol women to get their game "up" to Rahm's leve adds insult to the injury. These Chicago capos are stuck in 1978.
Sigh. He is likable enuf but for the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of the sexism of the WH and the president.
This writer is opted-in in a sad attempt to fit in. No wonder Monday a.m. conversation goes over her head. It is intended to. Duh.
Fail.

Posted by: nancyjeanmail | October 26, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Watch. Next time the president eats a hamburger, someone will jump on him for that too.

This incessant dumping on Obama from both the right and the left has really become quite tiresome. Actually, it's gone beyond tiresome, into the realm of the semi-insane.

Posted by: Gladiator2008 | October 26, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

It must be a slow day at Fox News (Jerry Springer Show) if this is all they can come up with to complain about. They should try covering some News events live ( outside in the fresh air) .... but that takes a real reporter doesn't it ?

Posted by: wasaUFO | October 26, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

If the woman can hit off the white or blue tees, then I would say ok. Yet, I have golfed with women and it always entails a wait...while the group goes to the red tees for the woman. The women typically don't hit the ball as far unless their name is Annika or Michelle Wei. As far as the political accusations...it is as The President has said..a bunch of BUNK.

Posted by: vintel7 | October 26, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

you all are just like bushies...

the future 28 percenters

LMAO

Posted by: tru-indy | October 26, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama is just exhibiting CP's tendency to live large, usually at other people's expense, while not performing his job even to a level of competency.

Posted by: sperrico | October 26, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

What is the difference between President Obama and us?

He's not sitting around reading a dreary bunch of blog opinions regarding our choice of sports friends.

Posted by: roboturkey | October 26, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

What next? That the President didn't invite women into the locker room for a bout of boy's talk in the showers? Please. This administration is pro-woman, pro-gay, pro-family, pro-American in more ways than any other prior administration. Yet, whiners will continue to whine. The women in the administration are probably laughing at this foolish accusation.

Posted by: jaysit | October 26, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have hit rock bottem. They have complained about everything Obama has done since he's been in office.. But you are really scraping the bottem of the barrel now. Leave Obama alone and let him try to get us out of the mess your President got us in...

Posted by: lis1 | October 26, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Well I'm glad the President has been able to take the lead on this subject.

Our golf clubs and courses are sacred and it's about time someone has taken a position to keep the ass dragging women off the golf course.

Finally! Thank you Mr. President. And thank you Jo-Ann for giving us something really stupid to read and ponder.

Posted by: Topper2u | October 26, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

women are never satisfied, no matter what they get from men. the most admirable women are the quiet ones.

Posted by: mock1ngb1rd | October 26, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

This is some of the most nonsensical criticism I have heard yet. It's bad enough that the right-wing nut jobs are critizing our President over anything and everything they can think of, but it seems the so-called liberals are losing their minds as well. I have no problem with folks criticizing President Obama or any president with respect to REAL issues and REAL policies. But for playing basketball with a bunch of guys? Really? Absolutely ludicrous!!!!

Posted by: mellow01 | October 26, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama lives in a fishbowl with his wife, two daughters, and his mother-in-law. Give the guy a break and let him have a little male time once in a while.

Posted by: dcmom | October 26, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

That's what you get for trying to please feminists. It's written into their misandric movement that men are the root of all woman's problems. He didn't actually think for a moment that he wasn't a man...did he?

Posted by: moebius22 | October 26, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Why is anyone surprised by this? Everybody knows Islam is the most sexist major religion...

Posted by: cjbmo | October 26, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

No wonder you stupid beatches are always getting slapped around. Get back in the kitchen or bedroom[not necessarily in that order] and shut up. And bring me another beer, beatch.

Posted by: Dionysis | October 26, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

What's all of the fuss? I'm a total feminist, and I say that those women who want to play basketball should make themselves know; I'm sure they'd be welcome to play. Did anyone ever raise a fuss about Bush's golf outings? NOPE

As for you sexists making juvenile remarks to elicit attention, all I have to say is I'd beat your ass on the court anyday!

Posted by: lk11 | October 26, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Just curious how many women in Bush's cabinet spent time chopping wood with him in Crawford, Texas...

And, probably even more amusing, how many of them when hunting with Dick Cheney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Citi__Street | October 26, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Good grief. I read the Times piece and it doesn't enumerate the supposedly upset bloggers. I wonder if this is more supposed astroturf/PUMA "liberal unrest from women" which during the campaign turned out to be REPUBLICANS pretending to be liberals. This is a new thing in conservative circles (the head of PUMA had donated to many GOP candidates in the past).

You see it here on the Post all the time now in the comments. All the "Gosh, I voted for Obama but I'm very troubled by... blah blah blah". Meanwhile, his approval rating is EXACTLY at the proportion of the country that voted for him. People are not becoming unsatisfied with Obama (on the whole, though surely everyone has something they wish he'd do differently, since so much is going on now) in any significant numbers.

I wish the media wouldn't fall for this conservative-manufactured "liberal unrest" trick. They are so gullible. Or maybe they know better but it's a chance to get more hits on their pages and sell papers. Sad.

Posted by: B2O2 | October 26, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

"Get back in the kitchen or bedroom[not necessarily in that order] and shut up. And bring me another beer, beatch."

Bob McDonnell? Is that you? How the hell are ya, anyway? Kind of a drag you gotta pretend to support women working now, ain't it? Just cause of this here durn anti-fundamentalist media. Well, I'm sure when you get in office you'll turn this place back into a good Taliban stronghold. Can't wait. These liberal western infidel ways have been awful for Virginia. Women thinking they kin speak up an all, and people using birth control as if it should be up to them. Godspeed, man!

Posted by: B2O2 | October 26, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

You're right - he's not insensitive to women. He's insensitive to: the Cambridge Police Department, Special Olympians, people who listen to talk radio, people who watch Fox News, Israeli settlers, Virginia Democrat gubernatorial candidates, Inspectors General, the nation of Poland, the state of Czechoslovakia, Neda, returning Iraq veterans, 50 million children who will not get the swine flu vaccine, senior citizens who want to live a long, comfortable life, people who pay for colonoscopies and mammograms, people who receive colonoscopies and mammograms, descendants of Winston Churchill, American traditionalists, the worth of the Constitution of the United States of America, the US Chamber of Commerce, .....do we need to talk about Obama's 'sensitivity' anymore?

Posted by: chatard | October 26, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe these women are whining about this. I guess if michelle were knitting with the female staffers, the male staffers would get upset. Considering the fact that women have not had to make the sacrifices that men have made for this country, they sure do expect a helluva lot. They should be whining about why they are not included in the draft.As usual, they are never satisfied.

Posted by: mark0004 | October 26, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I am surprised that it has taken this long for the women-in-power to notice that Obama have been playing games with the boys exclusively. Not anymore - after "that" golf game. It's now time for the lesbians, homosexuals, and transsexuals to demand equal time on the playing field with POTUS. I hope Barney Frank hits on him first.

Posted by: usnret742w4 | October 26, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Speaking about women, Michelle Obama's face, according to 'The Onion', will be put on fast-food containers and wrappers. Gawd,that face alone would be enough for me and others to spit out the cheese burgers and french fries we have already chewed and throw the rest of the items in the trash .

Posted by: sperrico | October 26, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

This is just another pseudo-story pumped by a desperate media.

Posted by: B2O2 | October 26, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

This is what happens when groups work so hard to destroy the Constitution.

Once there was a Right known as Free Association - the right to meet with whomever a person wanted to.

Now that Right is gone so Obama gets grilled for chillin with the guys and not inclusively including any women.

And what about the guys? Does he hang with a representative sample of a cross section of US demographics or are only certain groups represented?

Perhaps it's time for the Buddha Wheel to turn and Obama should answer for purposely excluding portions of our society from his "power pick up games".

Posted by: krankyman | October 26, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama the electable image vs Obama raised in the Koran

Posted by: dottydo | October 26, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

bcamp55 refers to the affirmative action president. Is he referring to the president whose daddy bought him everything, including a baseball club and a presidency, or the president of humble means who worked his way through university, was the first black editor of the Harvard Law Review, who gave up big bucks with legal firms to work with the poor, and became a constitutional law professor?

Posted by: lewfournier1 | October 26, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

What a silly article. Obama doesn't mind sharing the stage with "strong women" because, alas, he hasn't appointed any.

Sure, he's appointed women, but most of them are an IQ point or 2 short of low-grade moron ~ for example, Sebelius. She has no idea why the H1N1 flu isn't available ~ just keeps telling us how great it's going to be when it arrives, but little more than that.

Then, there's his wife ~ some real questions about her ~ seems to still be upset about not having grown up on a farm.

What we have here is an EMPTY SUIT who was hired by "others" to do parties, show up at barbeques, and deliver speeches.

There's really nothing more than that.

His appointments show how elementally corrupt and clueless this particular Chicago-type regime has become.

Time for the whole kit and kaboodle to resign and Git Outta My Way.

Posted by: muawiyah | October 26, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

When will the injustice ever end! Argh!

Posted by: allamer1 | October 26, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

The president needs exercise and he chooses basketball and golf. He should also be able to choose his playing partners. That is part of the relaxing process.

I did not vote for Obama and I am not thrilled with his presidential decisions. They affect all of us. However, his personal time decisions should be his alone...and he does need personal time.

Posted by: Kansas28 | October 27, 2009 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Obama is allowed some personal time. He works hard and then he plays golf on Sundays---with his friends. As for basketball, they play rough. Lots of elbows and bumping involved. They sweat and stink and probably scratch themselves too. These are things that men generally enjoy and women don't. I think if the President wants a good work out with people he doesn't have to be polite or proper with, then he's allowed. After the work out, he showers, puts on his suit and is the ultimate gentleman who includes women more than any President in memory. I think the guy needs to grunt and sweat and work of stress. Leave him alone.

Posted by: karela | October 27, 2009 6:31 AM | Report abuse

Where the defense of Obama falls apart is with the golf outings. He never invited a woman there either, until the new broke that he had no women. It is highly unlikely that at that level of government, there are not some pretty good women golfers.

Posted by: mgochs | October 27, 2009 7:27 AM | Report abuse

I'm a day late so this will probably not be read by many but I'll say it anyway because it makes me laugh and here's why. What if he invited only women play? I can only imagine the comments, things like, "he's not a man because he only plays with women" or maybe "here we go again, another Bill Clinton".
And if it they were an equal combination of men/women? We'd hear things like "he's just trying to placate the women and please everyone". And the comments after the game would probably be worse with things like "he was grabbing their a** when he went for a loose ball" or "he was intentionally pushing against their boobs the whole game". And if not those things there would be something like "he didn't have to play so aggressive on that rebound and knock her down".
It doesn't matter if you like Obama or hate him, he needed a little relaxation and this is how he got it. It's no worse than Bush riding his bicycle (and falling down) and certainly much better that Cheney shooting attorneys . . . then again, maybe not better than Cheney.

Posted by: hebray | October 27, 2009 7:42 AM | Report abuse

This is hilarious...after reading the article and ALL the comments I have come to the following conclusion: I am sure that if our president was in fact sexist or insensitive to womans rights/feelings there would be much more evidence to prove so other than who he decides to play basketball/golf with. Many people agree with me, many of you don't get it, and the rest of you will criticize him no matter what he does/does not do. My position is this, the only reason reports are being made, the only reason there was a segment about it on ABC this morning, is because the main stream media answers to somebody. And those people they answer to have their own agenda and their own perogative. What better way to pull the wool over our eyes, devert our attention from anything with any kind of substance, than to get the nation in a frenzy debating/blogging about whether or not the president should play basketball/golf with more women. I have to admit, it works. All of us, my self included, are contributing to the mayhem. By posting this, somebody else will respond. Then someone will respond to them, and so on and so forth. Its perfect. next thing is we'll be calling him racist because he doesn't play basketball/golf with enough white/black/whatever guys. We're really sick. We can't ever be happy. We always need a scandal in the White House. If there isn'tone there, we do this type of BS. Way to go America, keep making yourselfthe butt of every joke.

Posted by: cblank0212 | October 27, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember the interview that President Bush (1) conducted on a Maine golf course at the beginning of the Gulf War? As soon as he was asked why our soldiers were going there and dying, he was too busy to continue the interview. I have no problem with the current president playing some basketball or golf to maintain his health and reduce stress as long as he addresses the critical issues we're facing. I don't think he needs to be "politically correct" during his "down time".

Posted by: islandlady1 | October 30, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

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