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In Massachusetts, Scott Brown was better off on his own

Here's the paradox of the Massachusetts Senate race that everyone is now watching: Republican Scott Brown was doing an excellent job without the national attention. The fact that the race has been nationalized may be the best thing that happened to Democrat Martha Coakley -- even if all the news has suggested that she is weaker than expected.

Brown was running well as an insurgent who was somewhat disconnected from the national Republican Party. Conservatives, Republicans and tea-party types were already mobilized to vote next Tuesday. Democrats were asleep. All the national attention to the race now gives Democrats a reason to vote. Brown does better as an independent-minded outsider than as someone who is now recast as part of Washington's partisan battles. He is trying gamely to preserve his independent image, but that has become harder, and the Democrats' advertising is aimed at tying him into the Washington Republican Establishment.

In a post at the end of December on this race, I compared it with the 2007 special election in Massachustts' 5th congressional district, where Democrat Nikki Tsongas edged Republican Jim Ogonowski by 51 percent to 45 percent. I used that race then to show that Massachusetts has more moderate and conservative voters than most outsiders think it does. But that race is revealing in another way: Democrats had thought they could take that seat for granted, but Tsongas got fair warning before election day that she was in trouble. As a result, she and the party mobilized and pulled out that six-point victory.

My hunch is that we may be seeing the same story all over again: Democrats get warned just in time again and manage to block a Republican insurgent. One caveat: In 2007, George W. Bush was president, and that was a huge help in mobilizing voters for Tsongas. We'll see if the timely warning Democrats got this time will be enough to bring their voters to the polls.

By E.J. Dionne  | January 13, 2010; 10:33 AM ET
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The thought of a republicon in Teddy Kennedy's seat should be enough to make every voter in the state of Mass., and all American with a sense of dignity, conscience, and history, want to vomit.

Posted by: John1263 | January 13, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I don't live in Massachusetts, so maybe I missed this. But what national attention are you talking about - other than the now infamous Cosmopolitan Scott Brown centerfold I saw for the first time (strategically pixellated) on my local NYC news last night?

Are you trying to say that sort of thing helps? (That would seem very uncharacteristic of you. To say nothing of opening a rather large can of worms.)

Posted by: Itzajob | January 13, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

We'll see E.J.

John 1263: Maybe you did not hear the sound heard 'round the world: "It's not the Kennedy's seat. It's the people's seat".

Posted by: hz9604 | January 13, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Truthfully, Democrats will have to wake up nationwide or we will have a return to what we had in the Bush years or maybe even worse--teabagger GOPism.

Both Republicans and progressives are interesting. When Republicans get up in arms, they go out and vote. When Democratic progressives feel everything is not going their way (though many things are), they stay home and let the Republicans win.

That could happen in Massachusetts and nationwide.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | January 13, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Whistling past the graveyard.

Posted by: hoyatiger | January 13, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Massachusetts has its share of conservative voters? Ha.

Massachusetts elects nothing but socialists. They kept murderer Ted Kennedy around for what?-six terms because he was a Democrat. They changed the rules for appointing a successor to a mid term US senatorial vacancy to prevent the governor from appointing a Republican to the Senate in the event that John Kerry won the 2004 presidential election.

Then when Kennedy was dying, Massachusetts changed the appointment rule back to governor interim appointment. Now the Democrats put out a phony poll showing Scott Brown ahead of Democrat Coakley by 1 percentage point for the purpose of galvanizing Democrats to get out and vote to insure against a Brown victory.

Nothing smells more socialist than Massachusetts.

Posted by: bbwk80a1 | January 13, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

John1263 wrote:
"The thought of a republicon in Teddy Kennedy's seat should be enough to make every voter in the state of Mass., and all American with a sense of dignity, conscience, and history, want to vomit."
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You may bemoan if someone you do not consider to be a worthy successor to Ted Kennedy is elected to the US Senate for MA. Yet, all Americans with a sense of decency should decry any reference to any seat in government (federal, state or local) as "(Fill in Name)'s seat." Edward Kennedy held one of 2 Senate seats granted to his state. The electorate voted him in and gave him the privelege. The seat did not belong to him but to the people of MA.

Posted by: argie | January 13, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

You liberals are sickening. Kennedy’s seat my ass. As Scott Brown told David Gergen
during the debate, this isn’t Kennedy’s seat or even a democratic seat, it’s the people SEAT! Unless you bring ACORN and the union thugs to suppress the people you will see a new day in Massachusetts.

Posted by: GaGator | January 13, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Just another example of EJ running from realty! :-)
Who else could be on the Sun Deck of the Titanic and be looking for a chair!?!?!
He is not a journalist - he is a cheer leader for the dems!

Posted by: thornegp2626 | January 13, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I think Dionne's correct on this one.

Sometimes, the Republicans would do better to realize that the Democrats can fail on their own.

Posted by: postfan1 | January 13, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

EJ has written well. Republicans should take heed of his words. The Republican party needs to be reformed along lines of more moderate politicians. If not, this country will be in a bad shape for years to come. Personally, I would not like to live in a country torn apart by religious-political factions.

Posted by: EarlC | January 13, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Gee, EJ - Coakley ads are not trying to link Brown to Washington establishment unless we all have forgotten Bush and Cheney are no longer in office and Limbaugh is a radio personality and not an elected official. They are smears plain and simple. Notice that attention you worry about brought him over a million in new donations by "individuals" driving Coakley to attend last night's swanky fundraiser in Washington by the health care lobbyists and health industry. She takes their money and now everyone is to believe she wants to regulate them and put them in their place? Ha! Now who is tied to the Washington establishment when she rushes off to pocket their money? Dems are scared to death they may lose that 60th vote and this terrible health bill debacle might fail and have to go back to the drawing board and be reworked. They are desperate in Washington to ensure that she wins with the SIEU union now spending almost 700,000 on an ad buy for her...so who is establishment? Thank goodness all of us are getting to see how the democrats are using tactics that Obama promised he would change when he took office. The big gun democrats were sent in a while ago to ensure Coakley a win so now the attention allows all of us to see how really desperate they are.

Posted by: justmyvoice | January 13, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

The question is whether one week was enough notice for Coakley to turn things around. My guess is that they should have figured this out long ago and that too little time exists to really turn her numbers. If she is indeed behind though, I guess that this is her best case scenario (i.e. energize the base). As for losing the "Kennedy's Seat" it would be fitting karma for the Dems pushing their version of healthcare reform on a public that really doesn't want it. These people are buffoons. Why would anyone want to have their healthcare placed in the hands of these (or any other) partisan nuts? Happy Happy!

Posted by: plh123 | January 13, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Read the blogs in the Boston area. Running ten to one against Coakley. Today's poll shows a dead heat. That is a dead heat with all parties represented in the polls. Now, I have a hard time believing that Coakley voters are some how missing from the count. And the SEIU union thugs can try to pressure voters all the want, but I doubt it will help. Martha, at best, you will weasel out a very close win. At worst, you have a place on the unemployment line. And for President Obama, Harry and Nancy. Now what issue do you suppose is turning the country against your party? You are either fools, or don't give a damn. Both will send you to the unemployment line, too.

Posted by: donchew1 | January 13, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Health insurance and Big Pharma lobbyists backing Coakley with mega$$$$.
SEIU buying a 685,000$ ad smearing Brown, endorsing Coakley.
Main Street Americans donating over 1M to Brown campaign in one day!

The people want Brown.
Corruption wants Coakley.

Who will win?

Posted by: inmanorj | January 13, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

E.J. IS LOL-FUNNY!


E.J. obviously is shooting from the lip.

I heard Brown on the radio. He invoked Reagan's name AND thrifty philosophy every three minutes. Which RINOs do NOT do.

E.J., thanks for the laughs.

Now, try actually reporting, before you make another screw-up.

Posted by: russpoter | January 13, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Niki Tsongas was sworn in TWO days after the election!!! DOUBLE STANDARD???
Do the Dems really want to solidify the next election against them on due to ONE incredibly rememberable double cross?

Posted by: dumasjohnj | January 13, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

EJ,
you're asking for it on your blog. What the rightwinger, teabagger bloggers are doing for Scott Brown's campaign in Massachusetts, they'll do to you here. These are paid bloggers for Dick Armey's organization, really creepy people. But you'll find out.

I agree with you completely, though. None of these blogger creeps are voters in Massachusetts. Word is the Democrats are already organizing a blowout vote next Tuesday. Coakley will be in the Senate on Wednesday!

Posted by: dudh | January 13, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Dionne is a liberal. A fairly fair minded liberal, but still a liberal..so I can understand his wishful thinking.

He ALMOST arrives at the truth, when he admits that the dynamic in 2007 was different since Bush was President.. but didn't quite get there.

The dynamic is QUITE different this year.

Yes..Bush ISN'T President..so we don't have that energizing the liberal base.

Instead..we have an arrogant liberal Democrat Congress and a radical liberal president, with tanking poll numbers and a deeply unpopular healthcare bill, who have enraged and alienated independent voters and fired up the Conservative base .. raising 1.3 million dollars for Brown in one day!

We have a Democrat candidate who has acted arrogant and aloof as if she believes she is entitled to this senate seat, who openly takes money from fat cat Washington lobbyists, who embarrasses herself in debate by saying there are no terrorists in Afghanistan and whose campaign is so inept that it runs tv ads where it spells "Massachusetts" incorrectly!

Yes.. the dynamic this year is VERY different from 2007.

Posted by: livfreeordi | January 13, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

We can only hope that the great people of MA wil provide the shot heard around the world that this nonsense in politics should stop. The healthcare bill is a debacle...pure and simple garbage...and al lthe while the SEIU is supporting Coakley - its members will get screwed via the cadillac tax...that is unless BO provides cover for unions in the bill (so much for equal protection under the law for non-union members). Please good people of MA - time to send a message..this crap must stop now.

Posted by: short1 | January 13, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Watch your choice of words Dionne. You say Republican insurgent as if he's a terrorist trying to bomb the hopes of an easy democrat victory in one of the most liberal states in America.

This partisan venom disgusts me. Your whole party spews hatred toward your fellow Americans in order to advance a political agenda.

Posted by: axxionx12 | January 13, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

It's time that Massachusettes forgot the nonsense with the so called Kennedy aristocracy. If the father of that family was alive today he would be serving many years in jail for his background, and Ted should have gone to jail for the Chessapeeke incident.
Go out all you real people in MA and vote for what is good for America. Thank you.

Posted by: remesquaddie | January 13, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Not to worry....if everything else fails for the Democrats....Acorn will stuff the ballot box or they'll have a special recount that gives it to them....remember the entire country is now under control of the Chicago thug machinery and Crook (oops Cook) County Illinois is not the only one with dead voters on the roster

Posted by: conardkessel | January 13, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

EJ,
you're asking for it on your blog. What the rightwinger, teabagger bloggers are doing for Scott Brown's campaign in Massachusetts, they'll do to you here. These are paid bloggers for Dick Armey's organization, really creepy people. But you'll find out.

I agree with you completely, though. None of these blogger creeps are voters in Massachusetts. Word is the Democrats are already organizing a blowout vote next Tuesday. Coakley will be in the Senate on Wednesday!

Posted by: dudh | January 13, 2010 12:51 PM
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two points dudh

1. I'm not a paid blogger. I'm just a citizen.

2. Show me in my post above where I abused Dionne. He is a fairminded guy.. but was obviously reluctant to carry his point about Bush no longer being President to its logical conclusion. As I pointed out above, this election year is very different from 2007.

Could Coakley still win this election? Given that Democrats outnumber Republicans 3 to 1 in Massachusetts..sure! All they have to do is march enough mind numbed knee jerk party line voters to the polls and she would probably win. BUT.. the fact that it ever got this point should be a wake up call to all of you who are trying to force an agenda down the throats of the American people..THAT THEY DO NOT WANT!

Even if Coakley wins.. I doubt that it will be an easy blowout..which is what this election should have been for the Democrats!

If your guys are in this kind of trouble in Massachusetts.. Massachusetts for God's sake!!!!.. you are royally screwed come November!

Posted by: livfreeordi | January 13, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Nice try EJ; keep whistling past the grave yard. The key here will be independents, of which Massachusetts has many. They're the same folk who showed up in Va and NJ to usher in a new Republican regime. You think the comments of Rush Limbaugher or the RNC will make them stay home? Think again Bucko!

Posted by: sladenyv1 | January 13, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Nice try EJ; keep whistling past the grave yard. The key here will be independents, of which Massachusetts has many. They're the same folk who showed up in Va and NJ to usher in a new Republican regime. You think the comments of Rush Limbaugher or the RNC will make them stay home? Think again Bucko!

Posted by: sladenyv1 | January 13, 2010 1:17 PM
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51%

That is the percentage of Massachusetts voters who are unenrolled (independent) voters.

Polls show them overwhelmingly supporting Brown.

"Change" is supposed to be good.. so, this year, I'm supporting change.

"Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

Posted by: livfreeordi | January 13, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Martha got caught in bed with evil Big Pharma:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Coakley-in-trouble-Pharma-and-HMO-lobbyists-to-the-rescue-81067542.html

Posted by: grunk | January 13, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Didn't New York's House Repub. loss, after 100 years as Repub, to a teabagger, resonate anywhere. It got no traction in the media at all. The media can't wait to write a story about a referendum on Obama, is this 1994 all over again, etc. Just like they couldn't wait to write the 'is Obama soft on terror narrative', and they fell all over themselves to do so after a kid couldn't light off a bomb in his underwear...you would have thought it was 9/11 all over again. So, they are salivating with the thought of the dems "losing" Kennedy's seat (not happening by the way), a new revolution, etc. By the way,am I missing something, or have the demographics changed since 11/08; yeah right, they have, more older white voters have passed away, so the demographics are simply set up to keep the dems in power until an alternative party emerges...

Posted by: johnkomalley | January 13, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats are going right over a cliff on healthcare and they just don't get it. Too many "special deals," too many "bribes" to Senators, and the public is fed up with it. This is not "change" anyone voted for. Where is the promise of "C-SPAN" watching out for us? The Democrats have lost the battle because they can't even win in the People's Republic of Mass. without a cat fight. How are they going to win in Ohio and Penn? The very best thing that could happen to the Democrats is that Brown wins and then healthcare is defeated and then in November the Republicans have nothing to run on against them other than their pure stupidity.

Posted by: N369RM | January 13, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

hz9604 wrote

We'll see E.J.

John 1263: Maybe you did not hear the sound heard 'round the world: "It's not the Kennedy's seat. It's the people's seat".

Posted by: hz9604 | January 13, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse
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I think this is really funny--this quote that keeps showing up everywhere from Cosmo Brown. The "people's seat" goes to who the people elect. The last election for this seat, they elected Senator Kennedy. This election, they will elect Ms. Coakley. Democrats will mobilize like they did for the special election for the Fairfax County Senate seat--which, incidentally is a mobilization story where a Republican seat was won by a Democrat because of a good get out the vote effort.

Posted by: Prosperity2008 | January 13, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

livfreeordi,

Of course you're a paid rightwing blogger for Freedomworks, Otherwise, put your real name on your foolish messages for whacko Scott Brown.

Keep your eyes open for a big Coakley win Tuesday

Posted by: dudh | January 13, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

please. listening to the teabaggers, you'd think Brown was their boy. they'll try to elect him and then instantly discredit him because of his abortion views and lack of snake-handling bible-thumping.

the GOP house is like an insane asylum where the inmates have taken over, privatized insanity, collected donations from other insane people, and then built a new asylum to house sane people.

Posted by: Please_Fix_VAs_Roads | January 13, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

It's getting ugly out there:

"We Report, We Get Pushed
Video: Someone with the Coakley campaign shoves WEEKLY STANDARD reporter outside of a Capitol Hill fundraiser.
BY John McCormack"

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/video-someone-coakley-campaign-pushes-me-metal-railing

youtube video of reporter being shoved:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8CdfQGlgVw


Posted by: livfreeordi | January 13, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Wow E.J. why don't you just wear a Coakley button and say you work FOR the Coakley campaign??? It's one thing to be partisan but you didn't even give one reason to vote for Coakley other than the fact she is not the Republican. Is that what this country has come to.. it doesn't matter who is running.. just what party they belong to.. no wonder more and more people are becoming independants...

Posted by: sovine08 | January 13, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps it would be best for all if a modrate, independent was elected in Mass. The Dems need a jolt, and the loss of their illusory 60 vote majority might remind them that ideology and loyalty to a heretofore proclaimed progressive agenda was what secured their majority in the first place. Their abandonment of same will be their undoing.

Posted by: shpierce | January 13, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Brown winning would be a good thing for the state.

Posted by: FLvet | January 13, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

COMPARED TO BARRY OBAMA....Bush Is Alexander The Great!......Of Course, Any Other President Would Be Comparing To The Failed Marxist, Obama

Posted by: djmcfly | January 13, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

If Scott Brown wins, this election will have been for the Democrats a modern day version of The Battle of Waterloo (1815). The defeat at Waterloo marked the end of Napoleon’s rule as Emperor of France. If Brown wins here in 2010, another empire will end.

Even if Scott Brown loses, this election will have been for the Democrats a modern day version of The Battle of Bunker Hill (1775). Although the British won the Battle of Bunker Hill over our Colonists, their “victory” has forever been known as a Pyrrhic Victory because they suffered big losses in officers, soldiers, confidence, and prestige. And, we all know what happened to the British in the ensuing years.

Posted by: VirginianforFreedom | January 13, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

livfreeordi,

Of course you're a paid rightwing blogger for Freedomworks, Otherwise, put your real name on your foolish messages for whacko Scott Brown.

Keep your eyes open for a big Coakley win Tuesday

Posted by: dudh | January 13, 2010 1:50 PM
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Two points dudh:

1. Maybe your guilty conscience is at work and you are a paid blogger, but I'm not. I'm just a private citizen. I don't work for anyone but myself. I'm a physician, a board certified radiologist, in a group practice in the finger lakes region of New York. My congressman is Democrat Eric Massa of NY. He is adecent democrat congressman, who opposes the haltcare bill in Congress.

2. I don't see you posting your identity on here..so why should I post my name, so I can be harassed by wackos..like you?

3. As I already said, a Coakley win is certainly a possibility..perhaps even a probability..so you aren't making any points by agreeing with me on that point...

BUT.. there is absolutely NO way you can spin the fact that the Democrats have to now work very hard to keep this seat..when it should have been an easy walk..as anything but BAD news for the Democrats!

Isn't it amazing how poltical fortunes can change in such a year?

Keep deluding yourself and whistling past that graveyard.

November is only 11 months away.

Posted by: livfreeordi | January 13, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I have little doubt that Coakley will win even though Brown has shown himself to be far more qualified. Unfortunately, MASS residents would rather vote for an unqualified Democrat nitwit that thinks there are no Taliban in Afghanistan than a qualified republican.

Posted by: usr105 | January 13, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

How could this be described as "partisan venom?" This is a well-argued opinion column about how EJ views the race in Massachusetts. The word "insurgent" does not mean terrorist. It means a new-comer, independent, who is turning the tide. I am not one to stand for letting people who are obsessed with using terrorism for political points co-opt the English language.

Just read an article, think about things for yourself, and then decide how you want to vote. Makes a bit more sense than lashing out at someone for their opinion. Nobody has any respect these days. It saddens me that instead of stating one's own opinion, it becomes a game of name-calling and personal attacks.

Posted by: markh83 | January 13, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

What were terrorists in Iraq called by mainstream media since the war in Iraq? That's right, insurgents.

Posted by: axxionx12 | January 13, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

all the national dems can do is donate money and they should, tons of it...
the only people that matter are the voters...
and I don't think ads will do it...
I know the dems will launch ads saying the same type of lies the dems said before obama was elected...
and see what a fine job obama has done...
to mass. homes, did obama put you back to work...did he save your home...
did he do anything that made your life better...
elect the dem and get fined for not having insurance...

Posted by: DwightCollins | January 13, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh EJ, does the shilling ever end? Interesting the use of the word "Insurgent". I think Browns chances are obviously better with the immense amount of support he is getting, not from inside the Beltway Right Wing Republicans, but from Americans like myself who are not ideologically extreme, but are sick and tired of the liberal left driving our country deeper and deeper into a hole. Brown may not win, but the Tea Party movement already has, this should never have been a race at all!!

Posted by: bettlerd | January 13, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Dionne there are some significant differences.

In 2007:
- The GOP had proven they were corrupt and had become mostly "neocons" not being fiscally conservative or following principles.

- Strong anti Bush sentiment partially due to Bush's actions partially due to unfair media coverage

- The democrats had been out of power awhile and their messages started sounding legitimate. "Change, clean up washington, new way of politics, bipartisanship, etc etc etc" of course sound good.

Then democrats got into power and with their supermajority in 2008 they have shown these were complete lies and pure politics in order to gain power to get their way.

The media tries to cover it up but fortunately not everyone are sheep.

Although I think the liberal policies being shoved down the throats of the american peopel are destructive enough to resound for decades it is forcing REAL CHANGE in the GOP.

Many conservatives like myself are done with the "lesser evil" and supporting neocons, democratlite and other corrupt republicans who are part of basically a 1 party system.

Although the media childishly dismisses the tea parties as "teabaggers" it is forcing the kind of change this country needs and required the GOP to suffer huge losses to happen. They need to earn the vote and Scott Brown looks like the type of republican FREE THINKING conservatives, independents and moderate democrats can support.

Posted by: Cryos | January 13, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

sophic wrote:
Update,
The Democrats are getting ACORN involved...
The telltale signs to look for:

1) more votes in your district than voters

2) names like Mickey Mouse, Goofy, Daffy Duck, Fog Horn, Porky Pig and Al Gore on the voting list along with lots of dead people...

3) don't be fooled by the media ignoring these serious abnormalities...

4) Panthers with AK-47s at voting booths asking for your party affiliation...

5) unknown Czars running the voting booths...

6) Electronic voting machines on the Democrat side and old punch card voting devices that were shown defective in the "hanging chad" years on the Republican side

7) stramge people outside handing out money to certain people

Posted by: ProCounsel | January 13, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Oh and to take the definition of insurgent from princeton:
Insurgent:
-a person who takes part in an armed rebellion against the constituted authority (especially in the hope of improving conditions)
-guerrilla: a member of an irregular armed force that fights a stronger force by sabotage and harassment
-in opposition to a civil authority or government

So yes, it is partisan venom.

Posted by: axxionx12 | January 13, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

This article must have preceded the journalist getting beat up in DC by the Coackley hunchman. According to posters in the Boston Globe today, nobody in MA likes Coackley. The posters are blaming this confrontation on labor unions!! Obama's friends!! Doesn't fare too well for the democrats!

Posted by: annnort | January 13, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I can only shake my head at the conservatives who want to point to ACORN as "stealing" elections. ACORN only registers people to vote. Does FOX News have a state-by-state tally of questioned votes cast in the 2008 election? Much ado about nothing.

Posted by: ggilby1 | January 13, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

livfreeordi,
you're just a member of rightwing organizations using rightwing talking points (you know you are) to attack a candidate for office you don't know in a state where you do not live or vote. Stick to radiology.

Posted by: dudh | January 13, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

the blogs are running pro-Brown because the pro-Moakley people have a life and a job and don't have time to be dreaming. But they will have time to vote on Tuesday. It's Coakley by at least 15%

Posted by: dboston | January 13, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Not that I'm proud of the performance of Republicans over the past 8 years, but if Mr. Brown were to pull off a victory in Massachusetts it might be just the SHAKE UP that is needed in this country. It would point out that people want the CHANGE they were promised and are not getting.

Posted by: Brensarg | January 13, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

November is only 11 months away.

Posted by: livfreeordi |
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Actually, November is only ten months away.

But I agree with those who point out that it is not "Kennedy's seat". The seat belongs to the people of Massachusetts.

Posted by: rohitcuny | January 13, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

the FBI should be asking acorn supervisors what their intentions are this coming election day...
they should be prepared for election fraud...

Posted by: DwightCollins | January 13, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

"Read the blogs in the Boston area. Running ten to one against Coakley."

LOL the blogs. Now there's an accurate reflection of the electorate.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 13, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

livfreeordi,
you're just a member of rightwing organizations using rightwing talking points (you know you are) to attack a candidate for office you don't know in a state where you do not live or vote. Stick to radiology.


Posted by: dudh | January 13, 2010 2:30 PM
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At least I don't lie about who I am or where I'm from..which is more than I can say for you.

I'm not a member of any organization. I'm just a single informed citizen expressing an opinion..which is now possible in this day of the Internet.

Why is it OK for Coakley to bring in help from outside the state..including going down to Washington to beg money from pharmaceutical industry lobbyists..but it's not Ok for people like me to speak out for Brown?

Your hypocritical double standard would be amusing..if it wasn't so disgusting.

He gives me hope. If Massachusetts can come to its senses..perhaps the same thing can happen here in New York. liberal politicians are destroying this state. Every day, more of our best and brightest leave for better run states in the South to escape our oppressive taxation and stagnant economy. When I retire.. I'm following them.

What you call "right wing talking points" most rational people would call facts and logic.

Posted by: livfreeordi | January 13, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

E.J., what is it about your column that winds up the right wing extremists so much? Here are some quotes: "Acorn will stuff the ballot box , Ted Kennedy was a murderer, Obama is a Marxist, Panthers with AK-47s at voting booths asking for your party affiliation". Do these crazy extremists realize how stupid they sound?

Posted by: gposner | January 13, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

E.J., what is it about your column that winds up the right wing extremists so much? Here are some quotes: "Acorn will stuff the ballot box , Ted Kennedy was a murderer, Obama is a Marxist, Panthers with AK-47s at voting booths asking for your party affiliation". Do these crazy extremists realize how stupid they sound?

Posted by: gposner | January 13, 2010 3:19 PM
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Yeah..maybe they will go and assault some reporters!

Oh wait.. one of Martha's thugs did that already..last evening!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8CdfQGlgVw

Posted by: livfreeordi | January 13, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Scott Brown is an empty suit with a pretty face who has done nothing as state senator. All these people defending him know nothing about him.

Posted by: jake14 | January 13, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I hope that you know that you are an IDIOT?

Posted by: engineer4 | January 13, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Oh ..this is just too good!!

Sheet Metal union Workers in Massachusetts, carrying Coakley signs.

They were PAID $50.00 each to show up..and one of them said he is voting for Brown!!!

Watch and listen! LOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S518s32jjic

Posted by: livfreeordi | January 13, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Funny, if you have a sense of conscience and dignity (and history), the idea that someone could drive their car off a bridge, leave the scene letting a passenger to drown, and not be convicted of a crime is enough to make me sick. Instead, he gets reelected to the Senate for another 30 years.

It will be refreshing that someone like Scott Brown, who understands what it means to serve the public will be representing my state.

Even in Massachusetts we can become disgusted enough with out-of-control liberal spending to elect a Republican. Its nice to know democracy is still functional in this state.

Posted by: michaelclee | January 13, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

You're making the assumption that all the Democrats that might now turn out will vote for Coakley just because she has a (D) behind her name?
She's been a real slug of candidate, performed poorly in the debates, and has tied herself to unpopular policies of the current Administration that cut across party lines.
Even Democrats are disgusted with the out-of-control spending and, in Massachusetts, the taxes are high enough. Coakley's willingness to raise taxes even more is sure to hurt her.
Add her radical posture on abortion, thinking that there "are no terrorists in Afghanistan," and a few of her past flops as AG?
All bets are off on this race. Why do you think Obama is staying home?

Posted by: parkbench | January 13, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

It seems E.J. Dionne is counting on Obama's ACORN "community organizers" to do their trick again and commit enough fraud to make sure Coakley wins.

Let us hope the citizens of Massachusetts are able to defend themselves (and defend us) from the lies, manipulation, intimidation, coercion and fraud of Obama and his comrades.

Posted by: AntonioSosa | January 13, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Honest and informed Democrats are no longer Democrats because the stench of the lies, manipulation, intimidation, coercion, bribery, corruption, and backroom deals to force us to swallow the Obamacare SCAM -- which will destroy our health care, our economy, our freedoms and our country -- has forever tainted the Democratic Party.

Thinking Americans understand there's no longer a Democratic Party. The Democratic Party has been replaced by the Progressive (Marxist) party, controlled by U.S. enemies like George Soros and bent on destroying America using the tactics of their Marxist mentor Saul Alinsky.

Thinking Americans are ready to do whatever it takes to defend their future – and the future of their children and grandchildren -- from Obama and his Marxist scams, like Obamacare and cap and trade.

Honest and informed former Democrats in Massachusetts will vote for Brown.

Posted by: AntonioSosa | January 13, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

In the land of Lexington and Concord, the people must once again rise up and fight against taxation without representation. Vote for Brown.

Posted by: rjohnson2842 | January 13, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Dionne:

You are sort of right about the Oganowski/Tsongas race when you say it shows much more independent voting than people think in Massachusetts. Differences though: Oganowski was a much weaker candidate than Brown, the mood of the electorate was much different at that time, and Tsongas had much better name recognition in the district than Brown (and better than Coakly statewide, too) had statewide.

Posted by: dx40 | January 14, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Not sure why people are bandering 'round the term liberal as though it's a bad thing. If conservatism had ruled throughout US history, blacks would still be slaves, women would not be able to vote or attend college, there'd be no limit on # hrs one had to work, . . . well u get the picture. As true to their name, conservatism resists change. And please don't give me the story about fiscally conservative. Until Obama - who inherited one giant mess - the largest deficits were under republican/conservative presidents.

Now Brown is running as an independent thinking republican. If we examine Washington politics over the past generation, this is an oxymoron. The fact that republicans vote in-step, lock, stock and barrel on almost every issue shows that all independent thinking is drilled out during their tenure in washington.

Mr. Brown seems like a good candidate, but the fact that he is running as a republican suggests that he is naive in understanding Washington, if he expects he will be an "independent thinker."

He should run as an independent.

Posted by: LibCon | January 16, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

I think the first thing the Democrats and its MSM wing ought to do is stop referring to those they disagree with as people who practice a homosexual act.

Posted by: Banjo1 | January 18, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

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