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Martha Coakley and a Massachusetts miracle

The looming prospect of a Democratic loss in the Massachusetts Senate race has me thinking of Sully Sullenberger, Macbeth and Benjamin Franklin, in that order.

If the Democratic party were a plane, its captain would have gotten on the intercom and instructed passengers to brace for impact. But President Obama, in this instance, may be no Sully Sullenberger. The chances of pulling off a smooth landing seem slight. The consequences could be catastrophic. I argued after the off-year gubernatorial elections in Virginia and New Jersey against reading too much into the Republican wins and overestimating the predictive potential of the results.

Massachusetts would be different.

Democratic candidate Martha Coakley ran a terrible campaign -- while Washington slept, assuming that Ted Kennedy’s seat was a Democratic entitlement. Where was the Senate campaign committee, the White House, the national party? More important, a Coakley loss would not simply reflect her shortcomings; it would illustrate the desire, in Democratic Massachusetts and nationwide, to put some checks on Democratic control of the levers of government. The first victim could be the central legislative focus of Obama’s presidency.

If Coakley loses, there is only one realistic eye-of-the-needle route to getting health-care reform done: Have the House vote for the Senate-passed bill. The margin for error would be vanishingly small: The House passed its version by a vote of 220 to 215, and two of those voting aye -- Republican Joseph Cao of Louisiana and Michigan Democrat Bart Stupak -- would probably switch. The only real debate would be whether to press for a vote right away and hope Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) can rally her troops, or whether to take the time to do a careful vote count and cut the necessary deals.

Which brings me to Macbeth: “’twere well it were done quickly.” (Granted, it’s a tad uncomfortable that Macbeth was debating an assassination.) A loss in Massachusetts is apt to trigger a race-for-the-lifeboats reaction among lawmakers, especially among House members facing an election less than 10 months away. Time isn’t likely to soothe those fears -- imagine the barrage of negative television ads. Special deals would be tricky since the legislation couldn’t change in any way. And the last thing Democrats need is more behind-close-doors deal-making to make them look like the party of business as usual.

Hence, Franklin’s reputed admonition on the signing of the Declaration: “We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.” If Tuesday turns out badly for Democrats, this has to be the Obama-Pelosi rallying cry. The only thing worse for the party than passing health-care reform -- and in the short term I think it‘s going to be a political albatross -- would be not passing it. Having come this far, it’s too late for Obama to abandon the effort. I don’t subscribe to the argument that the failure on health care was a prime cause of Democrat losses in 1994, but a defeat this time would be different. It would show the Democrats incapable of delivering on their promises notwithstanding their solid majorities. If so, why bother to turn out?

There is also this small matter: It would squander a historic opportunity and put off needed changes for years, if not decades, to come. The Senate bill is far from perfect, but it is, on balance, better than the House version. The millimeter-thin silver lining of a political debacle in Massachusetts could be a measure that is more likely to succeed at containing costs while reversing the national disgrace of so many millions without insurance. And if Coakley manages her version of a Massachusetts miracle -- well, Democrats should pass health care and then do some serious thinking about the meaning of the bullet that just whizzed by.

By Ruth Marcus  | January 18, 2010; 10:15 AM ET
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Come on Massachusetts, lets give Scott Brown a big enough margin that the Acorn and SEIU thugs and the Democratic machine can't even think about trying to steal this election.

Massachusetts, be the first shot of the Second American Revolution to restore the original principles of the Founding Fathers. God knows the country needs it.

On Tuesday January 19, 2010, we will hear it: we will hear the "Scott" heard around the world.

Go Scott Brown Go!!

Posted by: Straightline | January 18, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Help break the "Kennedy curse" on Massachusetts and the ObamaNation on America.

Vote for Scott Brown.

'Nuff said!

Posted by: battleground51 | January 18, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

America has never had a just and equal society and never will. He who holds the gold makes the rules. Most of us are just short of being slaves. The Republicans love it and know the true nature of our citizens. They use division, lies, and race baiting and it works.

Posted by: fare777 | January 18, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

IF BROWN IS DOING ALL THESE THINGS THEY CLAIM....

SIGNING AUTOGRAPHS...SEEN WITH LARGE CROWD...

WHY CAN'T THE REST OF US SEE IT???

ONLY PHOTO I SEEN OF HIM IS...HIM IN FRONT OF HIS TRUCK!

IS THIS A PROPAGANDA FOR THE WHITE BOY ONLY SENATE CLUB?

OBAMA DREW A VISUAL CROWD OF MORE THAN 1500 AND THOUSAND WERE SENT AWAY...YET YESTERDAY WHEN I SAW BROWN...HE WAS ON THIS ITTY-BITTY STAGE WITH ONLY 6 OR 7 YOUNG MEN BEHIND HIM AND IT SURE AS HELL DIDN'T LOOK LIKE NO 1500 WERE IN THE AUDIENCE.... IF BROWN IS DOING ALL THESE THINGS THEY CLAIM....

SIGNING AUTOGRAPHS...SEEN WITH LARGE CROWD...

WHY CAN'T THE REST OF US SEE IT???

ONLY PHOTO I SEEN OF HIM IS...HIM IN FRONT OF HIS TRUCK!

IS THIS A PROPAGANDA FOR THE WHITE BOY ONLY SENATE CLUB?

OBAMA DREW A VISUAL CROWD OF MORE THAN 1500 AND THOUSAND WERE SENT AWAY...YET YESTERDAY WHEN I SAW BROWN...HE WAS ON THIS ITTY-BITTY STAGE WITH ONLY 6 OR 7 YOUNG MEN BEHIND HIM AND IT SURE AS HELL DIDN'T LOOK LIKE NO 1500 WERE IN THE AUDIENCE....

Posted by: dove369 | January 18, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

what a difference a year makes.

Posted by: drjcarlucci | January 18, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

There is no such thing as a "safe seat" in Congress. The Republicans discovered that when they lost a House seat (New York) because of internal bickering between conservative tea baggers and moderates within the party. The Democrats stumbled in Massachusetts because they let themselves be distracted and were blindsided by a Republican blitz. It's like a quarterback being sacked - always watch for the blitz and be ready to change the play. The problem is that the Democrats may now accept the Senate bill, which is less than perfect, to avoid another Senate vote. The bill could have been much better with bipartisan support, but some right wing tea baggers would prefer an option that lets poor people die - their solution for balancing the budget. Some people on the extreme right remind me of Count Vlad the Impaler - you remember Vlad don't you? He solved social problems by inviting all the poor beggers to a banquet, locking the doors once they were inside to prevent their escape, then setting the building on fire - that's the type solution that would appeal to some extremists.

Posted by: FredinVicksburg | January 18, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

If this author was so wrong about the reason and trends behind the Nov. elections in NJ and VA, why is she now credible about this?
Typical ideological pundit, who spins events to support her party/philosophy, then expects to be treated as an analyst who has something to say to all?
Track record counts. If you are consistently wrong, then maybe you should examine thyself, instead of repeating the same claptrap.

Posted by: johnL1 | January 18, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I think there is a distinct smell of tea brewing in the air right now up in Massachusetts and it smells like victory.

Posted by: pgould1 | January 18, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

From today's online Worcester, Mass. Telegram story about Brown's rally in
Worcester drawing 3200 people, the following post
which is telltale:

By TRUTHBETOLD:

"The new(Worcester-D) mayor Joe O'Brien was there and looked like he just got hit by a Rivera punch. He was staring at the massive Brown crowd, then slipped out on his cell phone and probably back home after the beating he just saw."


Posted by: Concerned14 | January 18, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Better to let the electorate of the State of Massachusetts decide just who they want to represent them!
Ruth Marcus: When are you and your liberal editors going to learn that the majority of the electorate are going to be sending this message to this administration and Congress?
Whoever wins should be determined and NOT influenced by the President or congressional members!
After all, this is the way that the Massachusetts legislature determined that successors to deceased senators were to be chosen....by election and not by the governor!

Posted by: SeniorVet | January 18, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse


Obama is 100% disconnected from the majority of Americans.


The intensity in Massachusetts to vote against Coakley is overwhelming.

I for one never expected this kind of voter sentiment, especially for such a blue state. I have many friends and business associates in Massachusetts and I've talked to about 75% of them. They are all voting for Brown-most of them can't stand Coakley, and many of them do not like what Obama is doing.

Even rank and file union workers do not like Coakley.

Posted by: charko825 | January 18, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Boston Democrats: they are the political geniuses of the universe, except when it comes to winning elections.

Posted by: blasmaic | January 18, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Marcus says:
"I don’t subscribe to the argument that the failure on health care was a prime cause of Democrat losses in 1994, but a defeat this time would be different."

The failure of "Hillary Care" can be blamed on the same forces threatening "Obama Care".
A revolt against the overreaching, hugely-expensive, backroom deal.

The right and center were firmly against it and the left became frightened and fragmented, just like today.

The failure of Hillary Care did not *cause* the Democrat's losses, it was simply a continuing rejection by the voters of the liberal agenda.

Posted by: spamsux1 | January 18, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I see the liberal script and postscript regarding a potential MA senate debacle. Blame the candidate. A month ago, Coakley was an ideal candidate. Now, she is a terribel candidate. Remember, democrats of MA chose Coakley. Is Ms. Marcus arguing that MA democrats (Harvard crowd?) did not know that Coakley would be a terrible candidate? Remember the mantra that democrats are smart and the rest are stupid! Deeds lost in VA because he was a bad candidate. Corzine lost because he was running a poor campaign. Ms. is forgetting (or ignoring) that the independents had enough of the current administration and its policies?

Posted by: philly3 | January 18, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

"More important, a Coakley loss would not simply reflect her shortcomings; it would illustrate the desire, in Democratic Massachusetts and nationwide, to put some checks on Democratic control of the levers of government." WOW! So, in essence, let's vote for the one with such "shortcomings"! I thought that we should be voting for the most qualified, the one with the best credentials and leadership. If she can't run a good campaign, how is she going to meet the needs of her constituents. And in reference to the "checks on Democratic control....", our system relies on the checks and balances. The people are fed up with the unchecked plans of the current administration and lap-dog congress...and i'll be the first to say it happened before with other administrations of both parties. Checks and balances are a good thing.

Posted by: mmer | January 18, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

This is hilarious! The anti-Coakley types think they are standing for and voting for the GOP ideals (anger, passing the buck, subversion, looting the Treasury, selfishness, etc.), but the GOP leaders are unconcerned about anything except getting back in power.

EJ Dionne has a column in today's WaPo that says it all - the GOP leaders knew what a tsunami of destruction they had unleashed upon the country before ceding their mess to Obama, and feel it was a good timing because Obama and the Dems will get blamed for the mess and have to try to clean it up. Then the GOP will get back in power once the Dems set the country on a more viable course, and the GOP will come in and take the credit for the slowly turning supertanker reversing while the GOP is in power.

It is like a harmonic wave, with the GOP and their destructive policies timed with the up wave abd the Dems with the down wave. Lord forgive the GOP for the desecration they wreak - even though they know perfectly well what they do. All so biblical, ain't it? GOP is all anger and hate with no good alternatives for solving any problem. We are an UNDEVELOPING nation since, like sharks, not moving forward leads to death.

Posted by: enough3 | January 18, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

The article fails to mention a third option--re-starting the legislative process to incorporate the values that BHO spoke of during '08: open, transparent, and bipartisan.

It has become abundantly clear that the "new politics" BHO spoke of during the campaign--one that dispensed with the 'insider trading' and special interest deals--was just old style campaign rhetoric; and 'hope and change we can believe in' was just a slogan.

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More to the point; people say "America is the richest country on earth--it's a disgrace that we don't have government health care like most European countries."

Here's a news flash: America is a rich country because people WORK here. Over the last five decades, the US unemployment rate has averaged about half that of most European countries. One of the strongest incentives Americans HAVE to work is that that is how most people get decent health care insurance for themselves & their families.

But the reality is that many people are lazy (me too!) Give them all the good stuff for free? They'll stop working for it!

Yes--a lot of low-paying, unskilled entry level jobs don't have health care insurance. Many young workers take such jobs as their first jobs--but they don't have to stay in those jobs. The possibility of higher pay & better benefits is a powerful incentive that motivates workers to improve their skills and gain diverse work experience.

But again--give people all, the good stuff for free, and they will likely stop working...

Posted by: psylvia | January 18, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

The amount of hate showing in some posts is truly sad. Yes, I am a registered Republican. My husband & I have never made over $50,000 in a year (combined), but we own our own home and pay our credit card bills in full every month. We are average Americans who do not want unlimited interference by the federal government.

I truly hope MA elects Scott Brown because we need a 2 party system. Washington is running amok, there needs to be discussion from both sides of the aisle, but secret meetings and private deals are the norm right now. It stands to reason that insurance, pharmaceutical companies would be against this healthcare bill if it was really going to rein in their profits, stop waste, magically make greed obsolete.
Instead, they're in bed with the Dems. Why is that? Ms. Coakley has all of these special interests plus the unions working for her (the unions made their own deal on healthcare). Doesn't that make you want to go out and make a change in MA?

Vote for the person, not the party!

Posted by: tucsoncaller | January 18, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

No matter who wins, at least the seat will no longer be occupied by a murderer.

Posted by: scvaughan | January 18, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse


Don't count Martha out yet, ACORN is working hard on getting the Democrats out to vote.....Early and Often!

Posted by: geo82170 | January 18, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse


A lifelong Democrat who felt energized by Obama's victory in 2008, I can understand the reasons for plummeting support of the president and the Democratic Party. There is no magic cure for the problems facing America. But they failed the people by taking wrong direction. Their actions showed that they are as much a part of the corrupt system, beholden to 'big money', as the Republicans are. We heard stirring words but saw little action to help ordinary Americans.

Those who think that defeat of Coakley in Massachusetts would lead to better things are naive. The venality of our elected representatives is not confined to Democrats. Neither Democrats nor Republicans are for the 'people'. They are all on the take.

Posted by: probashi | January 18, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

All anyone has to do is click on the Boston Globe and read the articles. The paper is definitely liberal biased, but the comment sections following the articles tell the complete story.

The majority do NOT want Coakley, nor do they want a Government run Health Care bill crammed down their throats. They resent the prescence of SEIU thugs, and ACORN and their ilk.

They certainly were not impressed with Obama's speech, nor the Big Labor boss' and referred to Kerry as "Lurch".

The people of MA are proud and patriotic. They are speaking out against a prez that is promoting (forcing) an agenda in the narrcissitic attempt to create a legacy for himself.

Posted by: inmanorj | January 18, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

MSNBC IS A SELLOUT!

THEY ARE SHOWING SUFFOLK POLLS WHICH ONLY IS A CONTROVERSIAL POLL....

I

Posted by: dove369 | January 18, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

The possible loss of the Massachusetts Senate seat would not pose such a danger to the progressive agenda were it not for the Senate Republicans's so-far successful effort to leverage Senate Rule 22 to require a filibuster-proof 60-vote majority for every single vote. Rule 22 must be changed, no matter what happens in the special election tomorrow. But let's keep our eye on what is really causing the logjam on moving ahead with the Obama Administration's many fine progressive ideas: the Republicans 24/7 filibuster strategy. The founders would be horrified to see what has happened in the Senate this year. They rejected super-majority voting requirements in all but a handful of very specific situations. To make it the norm in the Senate is a perversion of the Constitution and the Democrats need to take on that issue ASAP and help the voters understand what is at stake.

Posted by: nancyellen879 | January 18, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

All anyone has to do is click on the Boston Globe and read the articles. The paper is definitely liberal biased, but the comment sections following the articles tell the complete story.

The majority do NOT want Coakley, nor do they want a Government run Health Care bill crammed down their throats. They resent the prescence of SEIU thugs, and ACORN and their ilk.

They certainly were not impressed with Obama's speech, nor the Big Labor boss' and referred to Kerry as "Lurch".

The people of MA are proud and patriotic. They are speaking out against a prez that is promoting (forcing) an agenda in the narrcissitic attempt to create a legacy
==================================
THAT'S BECAUSE IDIOTS LIKE YOU ARE PAID PROPAGANDA ARSINES....

COAKLEY WILL PULL THIS OUT....

AND THE FIGHTING IRISH CAN ILLUSTRATE THEIR RACIAL PROFILLING SOMEWHERE ELSE

Posted by: dove369 | January 18, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

The problem with a two party system, given the absolute inability of either party to retreat from pandering to its base and make the compromises required to govern, is that we will have a no party system.

Perhaps the only way to ever get to health care reform is to have the current bill fail and experience the ultimate collapse of the whole system. If enough don't have health insurance, the resulting rates on the insured to cover the use of emergency rooms by the millions of uninsured, plus the hit to the economy as more and more go bankrupt paying for their uninsured medical bills (and siphon money away from all businesses but the health care industry), will drive the cry for something to be done.

Posted by: seahawkdad | January 18, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

The real issue is how the Senate Republicans have used Rule 22 to force every vote to require 60 votes. That is contrary to how the Constitution set up the US Senate. The Administration needs to take on the Senate Republicans and force reform of Rule 22. Whether the Massachusetts Senate seat stays in Democratic hands for the next two years, the balance of Ted Kennedy's term, should not be the hinge on which the entire health reform effort turns.

Posted by: nancyellen879 | January 18, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey Martha,
Nice job sending an innocent family to jail.

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-14537-Albany-CPS-and-Family-Court-Examiner~y2009m9d4-Involvement-in-Amirault-case-makes-Martha-Coakley-unfit-to-replace-Ted-Kennedy-as-Senator

Nice job dragging your knuckles on prosecuting high profile cases.

You think maybe Martha should be spending more time chasing criminals and less time chasing old ladies in their garden clubs.

You know at least a few people who voted for Obama in 2008 who are now planning to use their ballot Tuesday to “repent.”

Posted by: ANTILIB | January 18, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

LISTEN TOO ME ALL LIBERALS AND PROGRESSIVE

DO NOT WATCH MSNBC - THEY ARE NOTHING MORE BUT A CLEANED UP MOUTH PIECE OF THEIR COUSIN FOX NEWS....ALL THEY DO IS PUT THE DEMS AND OBAMA IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT WITH THEIR....IRISH ONLY POLLING.....

WATCH CNN AND CBS IF YOU WANT TO HEAR UNBIASED NEWS.....


LIBERALS AND PROGRESSIVE
STOP WATCHING MSNBC
STOP WATCHING MSNBC

START WATCHING
CNN
CBS

MSNBC IS UNDERCOVER FOR IRISH WHO PROFILE RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: dove369 | January 18, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Vote for martha coakley if you want your money back from big banks and more jobs to help the unemployed. She supports the bank tax and obamas jobs bill scott brown does not.

Posted by: matsuiny2004 | January 18, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Let's not try to spin this looming debacle for the Democrats as a "miracle" if Coakley wins--she was the one who was supposed to sweep to victory. The "miracle" will be if Scott Brown wins statewide office in a state where the Democrats currently hold every statewide office. That will be "the shot heard 'round the world" that serves as the Dems' last wakeup call that they need to lunge back to the center before November.

Posted by: WoodingsCBI | January 18, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Wow what the heck is going on in MA. This is the height of irony, having a republican take the seat held by a Kennedy for 50 years. Teddy must be spinning in his grave. Now if the voters of MA have half a brain, they will get rid of Barney Frank next.

Posted by: FormerNewYorkerNo9 | January 18, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

this woman is such a pathetic and predictable panderer. today is the official national mlk observance, so what does this inconsequential white woman say?

according to an AP article in WaPo, "Martha Coakley is asking Massachusetts voters to send her to the U.S. Senate to continue the type of work that filled the life of Martin Luther King Jr."

translation: "please turn out the black vote for me tomorrow, ALL of it... because i'm a democrat and i'm entitled to every black vote that gets cast tomorrow."

what an insult to black america, playing on the notion that all black voters think in lockstep, just because they're black.

the democratic party has really shown its hand in this election: "we're entitled" is the only message that is getting through.

Posted by: yesnomaybe213 | January 18, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

MSNBC

THEY ARE DOING A LOUSY JOB OF COVERING HAITI...JUST LIKE THE 2008 ELECTION....

MSNBC IS NOT A LIBERAL STATION

HONESTLY WITHOUT KEITH AND RACHAEL THAT STATION WOULD BE IN SERIOULY TROUBLE...

THEY ARE COVERING IT THE WAY THE RED CROSS WORKERS ACTED WHEN THEY WERE WORKING WITH THE KATRINA VICTIMS....LIKE THEY AFRAID THEY MIGHT CATCH SOMETHING!

Posted by: dove369 | January 18, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Marcus. As you know from past posts and emails, I am admirer of you, your parenting and your work.

That said, you are wrong on the hodge podge of a health care bill currently in the House and Senate. Your mantra that a bad bill is better than no bill is wrong.

Secret deals behind closed doors, special deals for union members that non-union members do not receive..the list goes on and reminds us of the promise of transparency, of putting the hearings on CSPAN, of some semblance of bipartisanship, none of which is happening.

Yes, we need health care reform. This bill needs to be scrapped and congress, with the cooperation and input of both sides of the aisle, needs to come up with a bill that will provide decent health care for all Americans. Bribery and favoritism to some senators to acquire their votes is wrong. The cost at the height of a recession is wrong.

The only thing that is right is the pursuit of a good health care bill without all the shenanigans going on currently.

Posted by: Kansas28 | January 18, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

MONICA ON MSNBC IS DOING A POLL ON RACE RELATION....

THIS STATION IS A JOKE ALL THEY DO IS NEWS AROUND POLLS....UN-FREAKIN-BE-LIE-A-BLE

Posted by: dove369 | January 18, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

"BOSTON -- Democrat Martha Coakley is asking Massachusetts voters to send her to the U.S. Senate to continue the type of work that filled the life of Martin Luther King Jr. "

how could she possible do that when up to now her job was putting blacks behind bars...
does she look like a compassionate person to you...

Posted by: DwightCollins | January 18, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

If Republicans crush the health care reform process with Brown joining the other traitors in the party then most of Americans will be sorely regretting the silly notions being peddled by Faux as their health care costs continue to spike year after year running up to 2012. That's when the Republicans will take their turn at being sorry.

Come on Republicans; most of the voting citizens have already forgotten why they had been soundly rejecting you all as candidates. Bring in Brown and remind us how incompetent and mean spirited you all are.

Posted by: theobserver4 | January 18, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

There is some things in the bill that everyone would like. But the Democrat written bill does not control costs, adds taxes and is a hit at businesses that no Republican can support. A bill not backed by the majority is not good. The people don't want this bill although they do want some aspects. The Dems should not push a bill that is not backed by the majority.

Posted by: jschmidt2 | January 18, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Health Care Bill is reversing the national disgrace of so many millions without insurance?

This is absurd! The disgrace is that politicians have the nerves to paint people who pay for the medical services out of pocked as being irresponsible. Figure that one out!

I am not insured and one of the ‘disgraced’. If the bill passes I won’t get insurance either. It is cheaper to pay out of pocket to any physician around then to pay for a bloated and unnecessary bureaucratic government.

Enjoy your healthy increase in insurance premiums on top of the sweet increase in taxes because that's what you are going to get!

Posted by: west129 | January 18, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

LISTEN TOO ME ALL LIBERALS AND PROGRESSIVE

DO NOT WATCH MSNBC - THEY ARE NOTHING MORE BUT A CLEANED UP MOUTH PIECE OF THEIR COUSIN FOX NEWS....ALL THEY DO IS PUT THE DEMS AND OBAMA IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT WITH THEIR....IRISH ONLY POLLING.....

WATCH CNN AND CBS IF YOU WANT TO HEAR UNBIASED NEWS.....


LIBERALS AND PROGRESSIVE
STOP WATCHING MSNBC
STOP WATCHING MSNBC

START WATCHING
CNN
CBS

MSNBC IS UNDERCOVER FOR IRISH WHO PROFILE RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: dove369 | January 18, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

___________________________________________

Apprently, the Democratic leadership only watches CNN too thus their problem. It only reports the rose-colored liberal views while the rest of the world turns around their ignorant as*es.

Posted by: RobParker | January 18, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

theobserver4- Funny how you would call a representative who can't support a bill a traitor. The fact that the people do not support this year makes the Democrats the traitors since they are not following the will of the people. Each representative is elected to support their constituents. The Dems have ignored those not supporting the bill. That is those who elected republicans. The Dems should never have pushed a bill that the majority do not support. If the Dems pass this bill it will be through back room deals, bribery of Congressmen or their states, and pushing through a bad bill that will damage our economy. This is the worst bill imaginable.

Posted by: jschmidt2 | January 18, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

straightline wrote:
Come on Massachusetts, lets give Scott Brown a big enough margin that the Acorn and SEIU thugs and the Democratic machine can't even think about trying to steal this election.

let's talk about stealing elections, like Ohio 2004 with the Republican servers.

And let's talk about the filibuster and the fact that senators representing about 10 percent of the population can stymie badly needed changes. Dems should just push stuff through using reconciliation the way Bush did. Let me remind you that Obama is trying to fix the Bush economic collapse by priming the pump. All these teapartiers raging about unemployment should run the numbers and estimate how high they would be if Obama had let GM and Chrysler go bankrupt (instead of what the teaparty morons call "a government takeover of the auto industry" we would have a wave of collapse affecting millions of workers--that was the real alternative, not a continuation of a government-free industry) and then CUT spending the way Republicans wanted. Republicans have proved themselves to be the party of fiscal and regulatory irresponsibility. This phony populism should have its bluff called. I notice Brown opposes hitting the banks with fees. Like I said, a phony populist.

Posted by: scientist1 | January 18, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Health Care Bill is reversing the national disgrace of so many millions without insurance?

This is absurd! The disgrace is that politicians have the nerves to paint people who pay for the medical services out of pocked as being irresponsible. Figure that one out!

I am not insured and one of the ‘disgraced’. If the bill passes I won’t get insurance either. It is cheaper to pay out of pocket to any physician around then to pay for a bloated and unnecessary bureaucratic government.

Enjoy your healthy increase in insurance premiums on top of the sweet increase in taxes because that's what you are going to get!

Posted by: west129

------------------------------------------------------

You're one of the jackholes that gets in a wreck or has a stroke which costs me $1,000 extra in premiums each year because when it hits the fan you have nothing to protect you. You're all smug now since nothing has happened, but your tune would be different if you were going to go bankrupt due to your irresponsibility.

I would've been supportive of the mandate if we would've had a legitimate non-profit option for people to get into. As it is I can't blame you for not wanting to pad the pockets of a company who would only deny or drop you when you do eventually get sick.

Posted by: theobserver4 | January 18, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats aren't really worried. The "miracle" will happen. They are, as we speak, loading buses with ACORN and SEIU operatives armed with "grant money" and by the time the clock strikes midnight all the Democrats will be registered and ready to swarm the polls tomorrow morning. Of course ACORN and SEIU are also ensuring that the absentee ballots are being properly prepared and that all have the correct (even the same) post mark. Reid and Polosei are busy sending emails and making calls to the appropriate support organizations with a complete list of earmarks and extra funding that will be headed Mass way as soon as Coakley is settled in her new digs in DC. So, Democrats don't worry, be happy the fix is in.

Posted by: staterighter | January 18, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Dems want to blame their candidate's poor campaign strategy. That way, they can claim its not their policies that are of fault.

The problem with that approach is that Ms. Coakley did in her campaign what most Dems have been doing for at least the past six months - trying to hide from the rage of American voters caused by Dem policies. Any crowd that hasn't been pre-selected to weed out dissenters would produce the same thing - people telling you they are mad about current policies. So Ms. Coakley directed her campaign to safe constituencies - the unions, fellow politicians, and the media.

For the past six to nine months, most Dem Congresspeople have claimed the tea parties were just the lunatic fringe organized by big corporations, either cancelled meetings with their constituents last summer or failed to really listen to what people were saying and concluded Congress knows best and the voters should shut up.

Dems forgot that the Constitution provides people the right to petition Congress. Dems reinterpreted that to mean voters only have the right to listen quietly to Congress' explanation of what is right. "Petition" means something more active than voters listening, but Congress has determined the voters should listen, not Congress.

Ms. Coakley merely followed the model of incumbent Dems in her campaign.

This "Congress knows best" attitude is still dominating the Dem strategy. The Dem liberal pundits are all still recommending passing healthcare no matter what the outcome of the Mass election. The only disagreement among the liberal establishment seems to be which parliamentary trick to use to pass the healthcare bill.

That seems like something right out of the Coakley campaign book.

Posted by: jfv123 | January 18, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

You forgot Cassandra:

The Cassandra metaphor (variously labelled the Cassandra 'syndrome', 'complex', 'phenomenon', 'predicament', 'dilemma', or 'curse'),


is a term applied in situations in which valid warnings or concerns are dismissed or disbelieved.

Everything Ruth has written thus far is a perfect example of this "malady".

Example - Cassandra says "Pass the bill because it is better than nothing."

Keep going Dems.

Posted by: mdsinc | January 18, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

theobserver4- Funny how you would call a representative who can't support a bill a traitor. The fact that the people do not support this year makes the Democrats the traitors since they are not following the will of the people. Each representative is elected to support their constituents. The Dems have ignored those not supporting the bill. That is those who elected republicans. The Dems should never have pushed a bill that the majority do not support. If the Dems pass this bill it will be through back room deals, bribery of Congressmen or their states, and pushing through a bad bill that will damage our economy. This is the worst bill imaginable.

Posted by: jschmidt2

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20% is not a majority pal. And yes the Republicans are traitors, but not for their decision not to support the bill. They're traitors for not contributing and try to stall reform out of existence......well the Dems didn't listen you'll bleet with a reply. Let me save you the trouble. They put out a 3 page wishlist without any budget numbers first. Then months and months later they offer up some slop to add 3% enrollment while giving away to insurance companies and blowing up the budget even worse than the Democrat plan.

The backroom deals and bribery of Democrats to get them to vote for the bill is just god awful so we agree there. The difference is I would have liked to have seen a few Republicans stand up and do what is right so it wouldn't have been seen as necessary by that jerk Reid. I'd rather have conservative Democrats who voice their concern on the bill than a conservative Republican who just shouts no. At least there was a chance of conservative Dems at least allowing reform to happen. Repubs were so traitorous that they couldn't let the politics take a back seat to their actual job of doing the people's business.

Posted by: theobserver4 | January 18, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Whenever I bother to read Marcus, I wonder what this woman of such middling talents ever did to get a column in the WaPo.

Posted by: turningfool | January 18, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

dove369 wrote: "IF BROWN IS DOING ALL THESE THINGS THEY CLAIM....
SIGNING AUTOGRAPHS...SEEN WITH LARGE CROWD...
WHY CAN'T THE REST OF US SEE IT???"

Because, of course, it is not in the interest of the establishment (Democratic) party to show a challenger (Republican, or otherwise) drawing a crowd, creating interest or being successful. A whole generation of journalists won't see (or photograph) Republican (or other) candidates when they're successful, because Democrats are supposed to win; it's the only story they've ever known, the only one that will get past their editors, and the only one that will satisfy their power-hungry friends, who will deny them interviews and any chance of promotion if they don't toe the party line. This not only prevents Republican candidates from getting covered well, the very idea of a third-party candidate is anathema, because it doesn't fit the narrative: if D means righteous and virtuous, and R means evil and mean-spirited, what does I mean? INVISIBLE: because it's too complicated to fit the simple good-vs-evil mantra. Try to find in-depth coverage of Libertarian, Constitution or other third-party candidates; at best you'll be told the Libertarian is kooky, the Constitutional candidate is a rabid right-winger and the others might as well not exist.
Well, the top two are collaborating to make government even larger, so do the work to find out which third-party candidates (one's an unrelated Kennedy in MA this round) are sound, and vote for them; we've got to break the two-party stranglehold on American politics, if we're ever going to get back to sound fiscal policy in this country.

Posted by: Wanderer13 | January 18, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

theobserver- the are somethings in the bill the Republicans would support but the Dems excluded the Republicans to push their far left agenda. Their so no way the Republicans could support a public option and the Dems were bent on pushing that. The lack of compromise pushed the Republicans away. And last I heard the majority over 50% don't want this bill. The Dems are not listening and will only learn the hard way they voters will not accept big govt or a hard left agenda.

Posted by: jschmidt2 | January 18, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Ruth what you fail to mention - the primary issue is the Heathcare Debacle. The majority of Americans do not want like the bill in its current form. It required all sorts of bribes...not to mention that sweetheart of a give-away to the unions while the rest of working americans foot their bill.
Its the policies itself Ruth as to why the dems are in trouble....They are either ignorant to that fact...or simply choose to ignore the fact...In either instance - it's cause to vote them out of office.

Posted by: short1 | January 18, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

So, let me get this straight....the "proud, patriotic people of Massachusetts" and real Americans in general will only accept being ruled by a Democratic administration if it listens to - and does - as Republicans want it to? Obama can only claim to be tuned into the American wavelength if he passes more tax cuts and starts a war with Iran? Is that about the way of it?

The Massachusetts voters are certainly faced with a tough choice, because Coakley truly is not the ideal candidate. However, these proud, patriotic voters are about to fall for the Republican short game one more time - the impression that registering a protest vote will be essentially harmless and will be a "wake-up call". Instead, it will ensure that nothing gets done, and that the same old crowd of thugs you whined and complained about is in power once again in short order.

Don't you ever get tired of being laughed at?

Posted by: marknesop | January 18, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Don't vote for the Party of "NO" in Massachusetts unless you want Limbaugh and Hannity and Glen Beck running the country!!

Posted by: paris1969 | January 18, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

marknesop- It is called bipartisanship and negotiation. Something the Democrats no thing about. And the Dems are having all their trouble within their own party. When one party loses it doesn;t mean they walk away. It is called govt by the people not by the Dems and on this bill and on the size of govt, the Dems do not represent the majority.

Posted by: jschmidt2 | January 18, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

dove369,

Kindly turn off the cap locks.

Posted by: furtdw | January 18, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

if Coakly wins, will the repuglitards support Heath insurance reform ???

if not, It ain't really a referendum on health insurance reform

I'd settle for the repuglitarded shuting their pie holes if Coakly wins

but we know that aint gonna happen either

Posted by: nada65931 | January 18, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

parts1969- I think that is don't vote for the party of 'NO Compromise' and 'NO Bipartisanship"- the Dems

Posted by: jschmidt2 | January 18, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

C'mon Scott...help the Democraps do what they do best:

Lose, and whine.

Posted by: jd5024 | January 18, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

You know I dont think I am alone in thinking that if Coakley could not pull this off by herself, then she is not qualified to stand on her own. If Obama has to come to her aid then she is not up to snuff.At this point and time I think having Obama support you is like having Clinton support Gore when he wanted to be president. Clinton hurt his vote instead of helped him.Thats why I like the idea of Obama coming to help her because I think sometimes the are too many cooks in the kitchen.And the dems are so pitiful they get into each others way.

Posted by: annieandpauldonovan | January 18, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

jschmidt2 - please. The Democrats have given the Republicans every possible opportunity to participate in the legislative and governing processes, but the Republicans have reliably responded with tantrums that make great political theater - but are as immature as they are colourful - or with threats to filibuster. Republicans are completely occupied with stopping Democrats from passing any meaningful legislation that they might later be able to point to as a success - most of the malodorous concessions in HCR that now look like cave-ins to the Insurance industry do so because they are, and they were forced by....Republicans!

You can crow all you like if Brown somehow manages a win, but don't delude yourself that it will mean a sea change in politics. All it will mean is that Republican obstructionism will be easier, and that Dems will have to suck up to Republicans so hard to get anything passed that it might as well have been a Republican bill to start with. You had 8 years of radical Republican rule: it destroyed your economy, wiped out your international good will and kicked the superpower legs out from under you - didn't you learn anything except GOP talking points?

Posted by: marknesop | January 18, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I love history, it brings with it great sayings/lessons of the likes of Thomas Jefferson's. He goes on to say. History ,in general ,only informs us what bad government is.I think we are now seeing what history brings us with this administration.Bring in the stateman and rid us of the devils.

Posted by: annieandpauldonovan | January 18, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

"I argued after the off-year gubernatorial elections in Virginia and New Jersey against reading too much into the Republican wins and overestimating the predictive potential of the results"

You were wrong then, this race proves it. The national mood is against the Democrats.

"Massachusetts would be different"

You have your Democratic colored glasses on. That's what different.

"Democratic candidate Martha Coakley ran a terrible campaign"

That's the standard excuse losers in a political campaign make. "McCain lost because he was a terrible candidate" is a standard refrain you heard after last November's election.

Here's what you should've learned. You're very partisan in your political views and it colors you interpretation of everything you see.

That's why your column always reads like a special message to the Democratic faithful; you're incapable of seeing anything except "Democrat=Good, Republican=Bad".

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | January 18, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Brown looks like a 'spoiler' for the dem.

Posted by: somers91 | January 18, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

If Martha loses,it would be Obama's fault because he is not alert enough to take care of things. Obama may be a good learder, but his staff are all losers, they simply do not know how to execute things, or how to govern. We are having another Jimmy Carter in the making, but the alternative of another Bush is even worse, the country will become a developing country in a fewer years, mark my words!

Posted by: johnycheng1 | January 18, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse


Ummm, it's not that voters are fed-up with only the Democrats. They are fed-up with Washington, with the politicians of both parties, and with business as usual. The Democrats just come in for more grief because they are the party in power.

Posted by: WylieD | January 18, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

The dem will have to drink 'bitter' tea as Brown makes headway into a dem-controlled territory.

Posted by: somers91 | January 18, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Those who think it doesn't matter that Coakley ran a bad campaign would do well to remember the example of Kathleen Kennedy Townsend in 2002. She thought she was a lock for Maryland governor, therefore she half-assed it, therefore she lost.

Personally, as a non-resident of Massachusetts, and a non-Democrat or Republican, normally I wouldn't care, except for that pesky health care bill quagmire.

Posted by: bucinka8 | January 18, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I want all the unemployed people to think about this, if you and you family all have no health issurance coverage while you are unemployed,what will happen? You will lose everything.This is going to happen to you too,if we send Brown to Washington. Think hard as I am doing now,because I am currently unemployed.

Posted by: johnycheng1 | January 18, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse


Both the Senate and House bills deserve to die. The president likes to claim that he is about to achieve something that presidents have been trying to do since FDR. Get a clue. FDR would not for an instant have considered this merde to be health care reform. Neither would any of the intervening presidents, including Eisenhower and Nixon.

To borrow from the infamous SNL skit, "Mr. President, do the American people look like your wife?"

Posted by: WylieD | January 18, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Two simple lessons can be learned from this campaign:

1. Even Democrats like checks and balances. We all knew Obama was to the far left of the Democratic Party, but after seeing his proposals that are moving the pendelum a little too far to the left, even Democrats are nervous. Who wouldn't be after a president proposes legislation that will hurt the quality of health care for at least 80% of Americans?

2. People don't like politicians who have a sense of entitlement. Coakley has been playing it too safe -- just like John Kerry did in 2004 -- assuming she was entitled to a victory if she didn't do anything stupid. That's no way to win the hearts of the electorate.

Posted by: diehardlib | January 18, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

If a conservative Republican beats a liberal Democrat in Massachussetts, campaigning on health care, of all things, the only thing that might be more disorienting is a sunrise in the West. But for Washington liberals, in and out of Congress, and in this blog, even cosmic signs are unlikely to dissuade. They know what is good for us, and they will exhaust every parliamentary trick to give it to us good and hard. Conservatives don't have to remind ordinary Americans that Washington's ruling class is out of sync, or in the narrow ideological grip of an anti- democratic spirit. Our representatives are acting like distant and dismissive rulers. They routinely demonstrate it in word and deed, with every unsavory deal, provision by provision in their monstrous and unpopular health bill. " Democrats should pass health care and then do some serious thinking about the meaning of the bullet that just whizzed by." Obviously, this opinion writer knows better than the majority of Americans who do not support this bill. How elitist, how dangerous, and how wrong can you be? We have a history of revolt, we were born in one. Tread softly, and don't tread on me!

Posted by: nelsonah | January 18, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

makensop- I don't call negotiating behind close doors without have representatives of the other party in the room as bipartisanship. Democrat committees voted down Republican proposals. But the Dems had problems with their own party. Buying off your party members to get votes is not the way a representative democracy is suppossed to work. The Dems have ignored the anger over stumulus programs that don't work or giveaways to unions. Exempting unions from the Cadillac tax goes against the sense of fairness that people seek. So there will be a sea change this year even if Brown doesn't win. The mere fact he can challenge a Dem in Mass, is enough to shake up the power structure. Obama and the Dems have already lost, they just haven't admitted yet.

Posted by: jschmidt2 | January 18, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

markensop- Oh and yes we did have 8 years of far right rule. Didn't work did it. The public is neither far right nor far left. But the Dems haven;t learned that and that is why they are failing. It is not obstructionism if the elected officials represent their constituents. Did the Dems support Bush 100%? No they called him every name in the book and they tried to undercut him at every turn. Was that obstructionism? And as far as blaming people for the mess, look at your own because is was Barney and Dodd who were the biggest supporters of NO regulation of Fannie and Freddie while accepting campaign donation. So be mad at your own party, Rangel, Waters, Frank, Dodd, Murtha for being the corrupt representatives they are.

Posted by: jschmidt2 | January 18, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I want all the unemployed people to think about this, if you and you family all have no health issurance coverage while you are unemployed,what will happen? You will lose everything.This is going to happen to you too,if we send Brown to Washington. Think hard as I am doing now,because I am currently unemployed.

Posted by: johnycheng1 | January 18, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

___________________________________________

And you STILL won't have insurance until 2013 or later. That is, IF you can afford the mandated plan.

Vote Democrat. Pay now, get screwed later.

Posted by: RobParker | January 18, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse


"Democrats should pass health care and then do some serious thinking about the meaning of the bullet that just whizzed by."
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No, it will not have "whizzed by". It will be a fatal shot; but the patient will linger on life support until succumbing Nov. 2010.

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | January 18, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Coakley is brilliant on the whereabouts of the Taliban -- today, they were in Kabul, attacking. Martha...Kabul is in Afghanistan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtO2s8R6Hqc

Posted by: scottatrw | January 18, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Brown is keeping the Massachusetts temp agency's in business. You'd think he'd have a few unpaid volunteers, like most campaigns do. Apparently, he can't get enough volunteers.

With the right-leaning media and political polling firms, I guess I shouldn't be surprised about why this news about Brown isn't getting out.

Posted by: chi-town | January 18, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse


dove369 forgot the have his/her meds refilled.

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | January 18, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

The following sentence from the recent Ruth Marcus item is not supported by the facts:

"The chances of pulling off a smooth landing seem slight."

There are two -- count 'em -- two polls indicating a lead for Brown, and that lead is not beyond the margin of error.

These are not last-minute prayers for a reversal of circumstance, but a plea that all people -- Ruth Marcus first -- respect the facts and stick to common sense and logic.

Any other year, any other time, this race would have been rightly called a dead heat. That there's a dead heat for Ted Kennedy's old seat does say something. But it does not say that Brown wins easily or commandingly.

Leave you with this -- in the New York 23rd race, on the night before the election, Hoffmann was forecast to win the next day by FIVE POINTS. There was no way the Democrat would win, we were told. And then we were told, that it didn't matter that the district had elected a Republican for 100 years and that it was close.

Well, the Democrat did win, and he won handily. No lawsuits resulted.

And here we go again, a difficult to predict special election is interpreted -- factlessly -- as being in the bag for one candidate, yet poll after poll shows that nobody can predict the outcome with any certainty.

It certainly looks like it will be a photo finish, but don't tell Ruth Marcus -- she's already counted the votes and gone to bed for the night.

Perhaps she should have titled her post "Dewey Defeats Truman."

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | January 18, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"Martha Coakley and a Massachusetts miracle" = "Dewey Defeats Truman"

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | January 18, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Oh dear Ruthie. Even your "fix" is inept. If the House votes for the Senate bill and Botox Nan loses 2 votes, the final vote count will be ... a tie.

As an intrepid reporter, one would think you've done your homework. One would obviously be wrong.

I'm sure, if you even bother to read these comments, you're puzzling this out.

Dear Ruthie, Democrat Wexler resigned, no one took his spot. There are only 434 people in the House now.

Better luck next time.

Posted by: bandmom22 | January 18, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

If Brown wins Marcus can forget about the healthcare bill passing. Dems who voted for it will either switch their vote, miss the next vote or, as Obama did so often, vote "present". Many incumbent pols are beginning to hear the footsteps of teabaggers behind them.

Posted by: hit4cycle | January 18, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

MA already has a state version of universal care. If they vote for the republican who kills Obama care, they get to keep their state plan which is way better then either the senate or house versions. So the question really is, are the people of MA looking out for the rest of us or just themselves?

Posted by: ksilton | January 18, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama could change the game by saying okay, America strongly disapproves of what we've put together on health care so we are going to start again with a more reasoned and manageable approach. However, given that he is ramming a hose down the throats of Americans so he can blast his partisan foolish into us against our will - I don't think he will want to stop now. Seems he longs for a dictatorship.

Posted by: parlan | January 18, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

House Dems STILL voting for ObamaCare

AFTER the Massachusetts Massacre

here is your new anthem

White Flag

I will go down with this ship
and I won’t put my hands up in surrender
there will be no white flag above my door...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_6B_QcDGGc&feature=related

Posted by: ProCounsel | January 18, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

The democrats need to take the kid gloves off and tell the american people the real deal. Things were getting better under William Jefferson - but even in year 2000 we were up to our ears in debt.

It seems that the 236 billion dollar surplus didn't include the 362 billion of interest payments due on the debt itself (5.6 trillion due to Reagan and Bush Sr)and the Clinton Administration forgot to tell us about our growing lack of competitiveness in the manufacturing sector - due to the private sector's focus on short term profits instead of long term productivity.

Our trade deficit was 450 billion by 2000. Thank goodness we had a 103 billion dollar interst payment coming in from social security but that still left us 473 billion short.

Then the Republicans knived us in the back and cut taxes - hidding the fact that there was no real surplus - in fact the deficit was actually about the same when you added the trade and federal balances together that they had been for about the last 10 years.

Now the GOP changed all that with Bush jr who trashed the economy. Now the federal deficit is over 13 billion. And if we understand basic arithmetic (and many who vote GOP don't) we have to face the fact that its going to take between 15 to 20 years to recover and that's only if we vote in politicians willing to take the heat and make the hard decisions and bear our displeasure (not GOP populists).

But boys and girls if you vote in GOP wimps things aren't ever going to get better. In facts things will get worse very quickly and it will be welcome to the third world. You want what you see in Haiti over here - I know I sure don't but if you vote for it you'll get it.

Posted by: agapn9 | January 18, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Marcus, Dionne and others among the Obama faithful just don't seem to understand what is going on. Obama has already apparently squandered a once in a generation opportunity to pass health care reform. He lacked the vision and political courage to advocate true reform, despite the illusion he created as a candidate he would do so.

The miracle will be if Brown wins, given the enormous advantages the Democrats should have in Massachusetts. Obama and most Democrats if Coakley wins, as seems very possible, will ignore the close election and proceed full speed ahead with their agenda, a weak health care bill paid for the middle class, persons sixty-five and older, higher utility bills with their energy bill, illegal amnesty for illegal immigrants.

The agenda of Democrats and Republicans do not represent most people in this country. No matter whether Coakley or Brown win, the real losers will be the majority of the people in this country.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | January 18, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse


What rock have the people of Mass been laying under the last eight years to miss the Republicans MESS they put us all in!

The people of Mass. Still don't get it! Don't get the disastrous Republican record of the last eight years belongs to Republicans! President Barack had a MESS dumped in his lap by the "Blew it Bush Administration who dumped a record MESS in his lap and yours! As a registered Voter/Vet USAF, I have to write to the people of Mass and ask them what rock have they been laying under the last eight years! Mass. Still don't get it! Mess we are in is a Republican MESS that took eight years to make can't be changed or cleaned up in one year! These are the facts the Republicans lost 8 Million jobs, left a record/debt/Deficit of $1.5 Trillion dollars, and left all Americans in a MESS, left office with the lowest job approval rating in the history of the United States Presidency 20% this is the Criminal record of Republicans these are the facts, and facts my fellow Americans is what this registered Voter/Vet USAF votes on!

In conclusion, I am asking all my fellow Americans Independents and Democrats to Vote for Martha Coakly who is on your side. Don't go backwards don't vote Republican and don't forget the past/MESS the Republicans put us all in! Go Vote, Democratic, remember we are on your side, President Barack was handed a MESS, remember who handed it to him and to you! Remember the record does matter and the facts do matter, and to this registered Voter, only a fool would ever vote for another Republican my friend especially after the Criminal MESS they have put all in, Vote for Martha, is a Vote to keep America on the right path.

The choice is yours my friends, "I Discovered I Always Have Choices, "And Sometimes Its Only A Choice Of Attitude."
---Abraham Lincoln, Sixteenth President of the United States.

Sincerely, Tommy Birchfield, Voter/Vet USAF,
Graduate Student, Master's Program, Professional Studies,
EAST TENNESSEE STATE UNIVERSITY/CLASS/2010.

Posted by: ztcb41 | January 18, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

The best way to increase the economy is to cut taxes which Bush did. Through 2007 we had a growing economy. He wanted to regulate Fannie and Freddie. Frank and Dodd said no. That is why the economy is a mess.The Dems are giving the house away to the their UNION friends and for their leftist agenda. So the only smart thing is to vote in moderate legislators.

Posted by: jschmidt2 | January 18, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

The 2007 Economic Survey did tentatively suggest that growth had been fairly stable over the decade, but also pointed out household financial liability had jumped from 89% of personal disposable income in 1993 to 139% in 2006. The reference also described the long-term budget outlook as "bleak", and was quite clear that whether revenues would need to be increased would depend on success in curbing spending. How'd that work out, would you say? Does that sound like something tax cuts would fix? I wasn't a whiz in math, but I can tell you that when Joe Sixpack is spending 139% of his income, you can cut taxes to zero and he's still going under - it just takes a little longer. Cut spending? Where would you suggest that be done? To Medicare, in an election year? That'd go down well with the over-60 crowd, which makes up a pretty solid voting bloc. Military spending? Good luck, with the Republicans shouting that Obama is weak on Defense and Security.

I devoutly hope you are the Republican candidate for president in 2012.

Posted by: marknesop | January 18, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Marcus, you still don't get it.

We're mired in the worst economic downturn in seven decades and you're worried about passing a health care reform bill. Your priorities are, for lack of a better word, misplaced. Massachusetts' election (or near-election) of a Republican should be a big clue.

Whether you or the Administration or the Congressional leadership will figure this out before November 2010 is now the question.

I say you're too wedded to your own ideology to find a way out. Prove me wrong.

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Posted by: dfdhdfhtrhjethgjtyjgf | January 18, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

I am crossing my fingers that the electorate in Mass. will send a message to Obama. And that is that he should start listening to the people. If they succeed those voters would have shot the first shot to be heard around the world.

Posted by: huntyrella | January 18, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Loved the "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia" stuff from yesterday ~ even the Kennedys don't even know who this woman is ~ and today saw a post quickly and realized I needed to look up "Murtha Coakley" and I'll be doggone there were hundreds of references already on the internet.

Part of the Democrat problem in this election (and in New Jersey and Virginia) is "brand identity" ~ they're running people for office that no one ever heard of nor do they care to hear of them.

The Republicans have people with character, or who are "characters", but that certainly helped put Craig Deeds in the dumper, and old what'shisname in NJ, back in his concrete boots just offshore.

Like Mr. Brown is said to be a hunk by dyed in the wool "posties".

And he has a pickup truck ~ drives around topless, flexing his muscles, haybales and cases of cold PBR in the back ~ oh, my goodness, he's got something for everybody. No ol'gal from Democrat central command can compete with that.

Posted by: muawiyah | January 18, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse


Yes, go Scott Brown go...... go away!

Posted by: kenhyde | January 19, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

The author writes: Hence, Franklin’s reputed admonition on the signing of the Declaration: “We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.” If Tuesday turns out badly for Democrats, this has to be the Obama-Pelosi rallying cry.

This explains so much the difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives see that quote for what it is. A statesman rallying the whole country. Liberals see it as a rallying cry for a partisan agenda most of the country is against. Sickening she would be the first use the words of a great American in order to force feed the American people legislation no one in their right minds asked for.

Posted by: shecallsmemoe | January 19, 2010 2:45 AM | Report abuse

In the end, while he was eminently skilled as a glider pilot, Chesley Sullenberger didn't save his passengers, a very well-designed and manufactured plane did. As Jonathan Capehart says elsewhere on these pages, this "plane", the Democratic Party, needs to examine its design and construction. It surrenders too easily the framing of debate on significant national issues to the gaseous blimps of the GOP. The need to reform the administration of health insurance and preposterous inequalities in the delivery of health care should be patently obvious, even to a fickle electorate or a mob of unruly gas-bags on the Mall.

Posted by: woodmack | January 19, 2010 5:03 AM | Report abuse

Your advise to Democrats to pass the healthcare legislation even if Scott Brown wins is the reason people are so opposed to the healthcare bill. Everyone wants healthcare reform, but not what Pelosi and Reid have concocted. Their bill does not reduce costs. It does not protect against frivilous lawsuits. It does not save corporations money so they are globally competitive. It does not allow the streamlining of healthcare by eliminating all the useless and unnecessary tests. It does not permit Medicare/Medicaid to pay a fair fee to doctors and hospitals.

It does none of these, but it is expensive.

The arrogance of the Democrats to pass something that the majority of Americans do not want. Given the waiver of the "cadillac tax" for unions, the Democrats could be accused of simply paying off their debt to their base, including unionized journalists.

Posted by: jaytucker | January 19, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Biased media and every trick in the book! Don't forget vote tampering, that has worked very well for both sides. House cleaning is something to consider. Because the house is white on the outside doesn't mean it's clean on the inside. No matter which fork in the road we take right now, they have both been over traveled and it's called stuck in the ruts and they all run together.

Posted by: wildernesslight | January 19, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

The people have lost our voice in our own country. The democrats are out of control and that's why they're being voted out.

Posted by: mock1ngb1rd | January 19, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

"The only thing worse for the party than passing health-care reform -- and in the short term I think it‘s going to be a political albatross -- would be not passing it. Having come this far, it’s too late for Obama to abandon the effort."

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Why is it either/or? Why can't the president simply come back to the table and craft a bill acceptable to get at least some Republican votes?

Here's a hint on how to do it: TORT REFORM.

Posted by: Hk45 | January 19, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I spent my entire working life in Germany. I paid far less for my insurance and got better care. The problem with health care in America is that it is allowing a broken business system to continue. Simply put, we spent somewhere around 16% of our GNP on health care and the other so-called advanced nations spend somewhere around 8 to 11%. None of the present plans does anything about addressing this reality. This is why I am opposed to all of the plans that have been put forward. The great irony is that if anything comes out of congress it may well increase health costs.

Posted by: jeffreed | January 19, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

What's the difference between Democrats and Republicans?

Democrats Republicans

Raise taxes for social programs Lie about lowering taxes
Support civil rights Deny civil rights
Regulate businesses Allow business to screw
consumers and workers
Allow people to believe as they wish Force god down throats
Support public education Support private education
Reform healthcare Support insurance companies
Teach evolution Teach creationism
Control military spending Increase military spending
with taxes
Give women choices Suppress women
Provide for the poor Ignore the poor
Create jobs Send jobs overseas
Assist immigrants Condemn immigrants
Create deficits Create deficits
Create opportunity Spy on citizens

It's such a tough choice!

Posted by: bob2davis | January 19, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Sullenberger, Macbeth and Franklin may appear in Marcus’s mind . . . Dirty Harry POPS UP in mine for the midterm election, “Do you feel lucky . . . well do you PUNK?”


Posted by: WeThePeopleofVirginia | January 19, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Democrats could not have picked a more polarizing and unsympathetic candidate than Martha Coakley. This is mistake #1. Locally, she is known for being for the machine rather than for the people. Her arrogance towards voters and her impression of her entitlement to this seat showed in the way she managed her campaign. If she wins today, it won't be about us but about her and opportunities for this administration to make strides in the next three years as nothing, absolutely nothing will get done with the majority position taken away and the Republican will to say "no" to everything that comes its way. At this point, I don't know what is worse, a Democrat who cares only about herself and political insiders or a Republican who will become defacto tiebreaker and devoid of the ability to demonstrate any independence of thought or vote. Neither option is good for the citizens of Massachusetts.

Posted by: sassafrasnewport | January 19, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

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