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Democrats are responsible for the partisan mess they're in

In the New York Times, Carl Hulse and Adam Nagrouney “report” the following so-called news:

Before the health care fight, before the economic stimulus package, before President Obama even took office, Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican minority leader, had a strategy for his party: use his extensive knowledge of Senate procedure to slow things down, take advantage of difficulties Democrats would have governing, and deny Democrats any Republican support on big legislation. Republicans embraced it, Democrats denounced it as rank obstructionism. Either way, it has led the two parties, as much as any other factor, to where they are right now. Republicans are monolithically against health care legislation, leaving the President and his party executing parliamentary back flips to get it passed…

To paraphrase my old boss, Donald Rumsfeld, they have started with an illogical premise and proceeded perfectly logically to an illogical conclusion. Put another way: This is sheer nonsense.

Oh, yes, Republicans set out to block everything Obama does -- that is why the Democrats have been forced to try tricks such as the “Louisiana Purchase,” “reconciliation” and “deem and pass.” The fact is, Obama and the Democrats are reaping what they have sown. The president came into office with the largest Democratic majorities in decades and decided he would pass his major initiatives along strict party lines if he had to. That is what he tried to do. And it backfired.

As I have pointed out in this space, both of Obama’s immediate predecessors, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, reached across the aisle in their first months to forge bipartisan coalitions on major issues. Clinton teamed with Republicans to approve the North American Free Trade Agreement; Bush worked with Ted Kennedy to pass the No Child Left Behind Act.

Quick: name one single comparable bipartisan initiative Obama proposed in his first year in office? There aren’t any.

The idea that Mitch McConnell has the ability to “deny Democrats any Republican support on big legislation” is ridiculous. McConnell is pulling the strings of moderates such as Sens. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Susan Collins (R-Maine), George Voinovich (R-Ohio), Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), and Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.)? These senators have prided themselves on cooperating across the aisle -- Hatch’s favorite Senate legislative co-sponsor was Ted Kennedy. If Obama had made even the minimum effort to reach out to these and other centrist Republicans, he could have won enough GOP votes to pass a health-care bill -- without having to buy off Ben Nelson with a back-room deal. But to do it, he would have had to compromise on substance. This he was unwilling to do. That is why Republicans of all stripes in the House and Senate -- left, right and center -- are in such a state of unprecedented party unity.

McConnell wishes he could take credit for that unity. He is good -- but he is not that good.

By Marc Thiessen  | March 18, 2010; 6:30 AM ET
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Here's yet another piece of partisan dribble. Of course McConnell isn't that good but given his strong arm tactics plus presssure from far-out rightwing media outlets and groups like the Tea Party miscontents, any Republican breaking out of the mold will have a precarious future. In a time of political midgits, it's everyone for himself.

Health Care Bill passage or not, it's the American people and form of government who lose in this era of me first.

Posted by: TomMiller1 | March 18, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Why is this guy writing for the Post? The record amply demonstrates that Obama did, indeed, seek out bipartisan common ground with Congressional Republicans, only to be rebuffed. That the stimulus bill--widely acknowledged by economic experts on both sides of the aisle as being essential and being packed with tax cuts expressly for the purpose of appealing to Republicans--received only one affirmative vote from Congressional Republicans evidences McConnel's oppositional strategy. And the fact that the health care bills received no Republican votes, despite being a largely centrist piece of legislation further confirms that Congressional Republicans never had any intention of cooperating.

For Thiessen to blame Obama for this deliberate oppositional strategy is absurd and suggests that Post readers can look forward to more intellectual dishonesty for the duration of Thiessen's tenure.

Posted by: friedman05 | March 18, 2010 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Thiessen has certainly proved himself to be an utter fool. Job security at the once proud WAPO.

Posted by: Ralphie1 | March 18, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

I am for this bill. No more pre existing conditions restrictions and so many more good and needed things are included in this bill. The rates keep skyrocketing while the insurance industry fat cats get rich and we all die without adequate coverage. There is no end in sight to their greed, the American people will regain control with this bill. As far as it not going far enough, well that may be true, but just getting this much passed first is far more important now as getting it this far is hard enough. To the Liberals, keep in mind, the parts that are missing can always be added later if need be, bills can be amended and improved upon once they pass. Let's just get it done and make history, support our President and Democratic country and values and move forward. This progress is better than no progress at all and falling to the Republican party of no, party of nothing, party of killing progress and killing America. Let's all support our President, our party, this life saving legislation and just get it done Democrats.

Posted by: Hillary08 | March 18, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

All of the insurance company regulations were the input of Republicans a long time ago - and were rebuffed by Dems. They have never agreed to meaningful tort reform, however. Imagine that.

Posted by: easttxisfreaky | March 18, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Your former boss Rummy? Enough said.

Posted by: jckdoors | March 18, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

My Dad's favorite expression when my sister and I would fight and blame each other for starting the conflict was "it takes two to tango". Obama did try to engage the GOP even before he took office. We watched all summer long while the Senate Finance Committee waited and waited and waited for the 6 senators, 3 dems and 3 republican to hash out a watered-down bill. The GOP stated very early on that health care reform would be Obama's Waterloo (Sen. Jim DeMint) and that was the last honest statement I have heard from them. The better question than "why make the government responsible for one sixth of the economy" is why do we have a private enterprise health insurance system that spends one third of every dollar on paperwork and process while leaving 47 million Americans uninsured and costing twice as much as the universal health care in almost every other industrialized nation and earning us the distinction of being in 30th place in most measures of health. So we have 44,000 excess deaths a year from lack of insurance, 600-700 thousand annual bankruptcies from medical bills and a consumer satisfaction rating for health care less than half that of other industrialized nations. These are just some of the reasons why most specialty medical societies as well as the AMA favor the health care reform bills that, lest we forget, have already passed both Houses of Congress. So the GOP whines that HCR is being rammed down their throats. What a crock. Same song and dance used previously with civil rights and Medicare.

Posted by: wilsonjmichael | March 18, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Washington Post continues to print the light musings of a torture supporter. No decency. No shame. No dignity left. What an embarrassment.

Posted by: caphilldcne | March 18, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

HIATT!!! FIRE THIS STUPID PUTZ NOW!!!

Not only is he cheerleading, he's shamefully dishonest in everything he says. He contradicts himself in midsentence, and compounds his sophistry with each lie building on the previous fallacy.

The GOP has been a little fuzzy bunny of understanding and compassion since Obama was elected and McConnell has had his hands full holding back the teeming masses of republicans clamoring in bipartisan joy to sing Kumbaya with their Democratic colleagues.

This is ridiculous. This man should have to pay advertising rates for this shameless pandering. The GOP owns this tool and he is incapable of an honest thought that isn't bought and paid for by his masters.

Posted by: joebanks | March 18, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight... Mr. Thiessen is bemoaning partisanship by stating highly partisan arguments but starts by complaining about poor logic?

Oh yeah... great job, Mr. Hiatt... this hack makes the Post, oooohhh sooooo much smarter.

Posted by: CardFan | March 18, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

"To paraphrase my old boss, Donald Rumsfeld...blah, blah..." Go to the SHTFUP store, stop at the SHTFUP juice aisle, and buy yourself a big container of SHTFUP juice.

Why this loser, WAPO? Gerson needs a break, does he?

Posted by: LABC | March 18, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Barack H. Obama is the most bitterly partisan, liberal, political machinist to ever inhabit the White House. That cannot be denied. Obama is a leftist steeped in Marxist ideology and he will not compromise that hardcore outlook.

He is a delight to all the leftist, yes-men of the Pelosi, House comrads.

Boy! Did those so-called moderates make a monumental error in causing that Chicago, street organizer to be elected president.

It will take years to undo the damage the Obamatons will have caused before they can be kicked out. It took nearly 30 years to clean up the mess the last batch of liberals caused in the '60s.

When will the clueless "moderates" learn that there is nothing worse than giving the reigns of power to unabashed liberals??

Posted by: battleground51 | March 18, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

When will the clueless "moderates" learn that there is nothing worse than giving the reigns of power to unabashed liberals??

Posted by: battleground51
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Gee, I don'thave learned the lesson of giving the reigns of power to wingnuts supported by talking point buffoons?

Posted by: LABC | March 18, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

When will the clueless "moderates" learn that there is nothing worse than giving the reigns of power to unabashed liberals??

Posted by: battleground51
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Gee, I don't know - how long will it take to learn the lesson of giving the reigns of power to wingnuts supported by talking point buffoons?

Posted by: LABC

Posted by: LABC | March 18, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Thiessen's precept is demonstrably false, but what can one expect from a person who was a Bush admin flack and argues that it's legal and moral for this country to torture prisoners in our custody, blythey ignoring both international law and our own statutes.

It's shameful that the Post has given him a forum to spout his lies.

Republicans HAVE set out to block everything the Obama administration does; they have bragged about it, and that's why the filibuster has been used at record levels in the Senate since President Obama took office.

For a good overview of Republican obstructionism, see this post: http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/03/02/republican-obstruction-at-work-record-number-of-filibusters/

Posted by: posterchild90 | March 18, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Isn't the minority party SUPPOSED to obstruct? Otherwise why not just have one party like China?

When the Dems did it to Bush it was Patriotism and now the Repubs are evil? You may disagree with obstructionism and partisanship but please don't think that one side or the other is not guilty.

Fact is that despite his words to work with the Republicans Obama hasn't actually taken any actions do so.

Posted by: BradG | March 18, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

How is your old boss, Donald Rumsfeld? He certainly aced all his Logic class. When the presumptions are incorrect, then all derivations from those presumptions are garbage.

Wasn't he the person that created a lot of presumption about Iraq: its WMD, its Al-Qaeda linkage, and how Americans would be seen as a liberators as opposed to invaders? Based on those assumptions, he concluded that history would one day give him the credits. I hope that you have learned from his logic well.

Posted by: Israel4 | March 18, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I think your piece here is unbalanced, to say the least. An honest analysis would admit that both sides are guilty. Yes, the Democrats have been partisan, and could have done more to reach out--Obama included. However, your exculpation of the Republicans is blinkered: as one example, remember Demint and Obama's Waterloo early on? What about all those conservative purity tests lingering in the background?

First, have a look at your colleague's piece for examples of 2009 bipartisanship and compromise: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/03/obama_the_hyper-partisan.html

Second, what about Obama's attempts at education reform, led by Duncan? If people from Newt Gingrich to Michael Gerson are praising it, that gives some indication that there are attempts at bipartisanship being made by Ds.

Part of the cause of partisanship is a lack of honest discussion of political matters by pundits such as yourself. Without a balanced narrative by the media, it is difficult to properly diagnose and cure the partisanship problem.

Thanks

Posted by: lde2c | March 18, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Gee, I don't know - how long will it take to learn the lesson of giving the reigns of power to wingnuts supported by talking point buffoons?
Posted by: LABC | March 18, 2010 10:36 AM |
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Please come up with something more original and less trite. You sound like your parroting Limbaugh.

"Wingnuts"? "Buffoons"? Sounds to my like your describing the tyrannical Obama and Pelosi.

Posted by: krankyman | March 18, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Your old boss Jesse Helms as well as his wife and kids received pretty good health care from the Federal Employees benefits package. All the American people ask for is the same.

Posted by: MerrillFrank | March 18, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Wingnuts"? "Buffoons"? Sounds to my like your describing the tyrannical Obama and Pelosi.

Posted by: krankyman
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Gosh, with that stinging rebuke, you must be the Don Rickles of your teabaggin' group. Tyrannical, now is he? Are we now in ancient Rome? Have you given up the socialist-fascist-communist labels this week?

Posted by: LABC | March 18, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

When I grow up, I want to be a useless filth-spewer just like Thiessen. He is my hero.

Posted by: steveboyington | March 19, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Exact Same Style weekend event by US Congress sent HelathCare bill to US Senate in LATE 2009. Several Problems then, US Congress was NOT In session that day/NIGHT & photos show Person with Grey hair, heavy set & Mustache, identified in News Release as US Congressional Sgt at Arms, whom Lost Job (fired) about 6 Years ago. Recently, earlier today, picture on internet with Same Heavy set gray haired & Mustached defunct Sgt at ARMS, with group in US Congress Floor area with Hon Pelosi, Seems that specific BAD guard Knows how to enter US Congress when out of session & Pull Spoof Photo session that becomes foundation for HealthCare bill Moving Bill on in Process, complete Fraud, Public Seems NOT smart Enough to UnderStand Mess has fallen into. terrible Crime, Right in Front of US Public Eyes.
Murder Is NOT Health Care & Prsent Bill Is Harvest of People whom bought BAD Package, NOT HealthCare At ALL. Entertainment Murder In isolated Place called hospitol. Inside Foundation of present HealthCare, Is HATE of Citizens of United States of America Lawyers Are that Way with Others. Whole Lie now called health Care Bill Needs Be Thrown Out, Defeated. Congress Is About To Criminalize HealthCare Process Further than every before. Public Being Duped & Repeat of first events in US Congress in Lat 2009. US CongressPeople Are NOT Above Law.

Signed:PHYSICIAN THOMAS STEWART von DRASHEK M.D.
GEORGE MASON UNIVERSITY 1984 to 1989.

Posted by: thomasxstewart1 | March 17, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: thomasxstewart1 | March 19, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

I don't read Thiessen's drivel, but I did enjoy watching him being eviscerated by Jon Steward -- I followed a link from Frank Rich's Sunday NY Times column (which I do read).

Posted by: russellglee | March 19, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

first, thiessen, it was funny to watch you get your phat as s handed to you by jon stewart. second, you are nothing but a torture monkey, a vile liar, and a waste of the phat that was used to construct your monstrously ugly head. you make as much sense as a crackhead huffing drano. may you soon get an incurable cancer and find that you've been dropped by your insurance company for not declaring the pre-existing condition of being an absolute priiiiiiick.

Posted by: memorybabe1 | March 19, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

I notice the vast majority of replys here fall into two categories, those who hurl ad hominem insults, and those who bemoan the lack of left wing conformity on the Post's Editorial Page. Apparently living in DC and attending Ivy League schools provided insufficient conformity in their lives.
We are running a deficit of 1.6 trillion a year-A YEAR !. The bizarre idea that right now is the time to add a trillion dollar a year entitlement program to the budget is rather like the Captain of the Titanic asking for a larger hole. Or perhaps Captain Hazelwood ordering up another Margrita is more apt. Insane.

Posted by: devluddite | March 19, 2010 2:02 AM | Report abuse

Who cares what a Bush speechwriter and proponent of torture thinks? And why does the Post hire professional liars instead of journalists?

Posted by: turningfool | March 19, 2010 2:26 AM | Report abuse

Obama did reach across the aisle. Important concessions were made. There is no public option on the table. That hurts. Many of the current proposals were supported by Republicans not that long ago. An entire year was spent trying to bring Republicans into discussions. Yet not one peep of support from Republicans, not one useful bit of bipartisanship.

I think the Dems got played by the Republicans. It looks to me like the Republicans never meant to work with Dems on this or on anything else. Look what they did with Obama's appointments, even those that they later overwhelmingly supported when it came to a vote. It's all delaying tactics. The nuclear option -- the Republicans are already playing the nuclear option and they blame the Dems. Maybe that's why they are so quick to blame Dems, to avoid criticism for what they do themselves.

The Republican party has sunk to slime mold level. There is no honor in that party anymore. And yes, there used to be.

Thiessen always writes such cr*p. You know, the New York Times has a respectable conservative columnist (David Brooks). The Washington Post only has second-rate hacks.

Posted by: DavidH3 | March 19, 2010 2:36 AM | Report abuse

jebus

have you spent the past year on another planet ???

maybe you suffered a major head wound in the past week ???

or are you just the sorriest liar ever born ???

here's a hint:

when you tell a lie, it has to be believable

you can't try to blame Democrats for the gridlock in Washington when everybody knows the repuglitarded party is the problem

remember lushbo limpball little quote:

"I want him to fail"

or are we discussing the off-planet thingy, or the head wound thingy

or the part about you being the most pathetic 4aahole liar in the history of America

or maybe you're just stupid

that would explain the lame lie

Posted by: nada85484 | March 19, 2010 3:48 AM | Report abuse

Sunday Obama meets his waterloo

please note, demint did not specify if Obama was Napoleon or Wellington

all I know is that the LOSER is bound for a god-forsaken island

I hope demint enjoys his exile

hasta la vista, 4sshole

Posted by: nada85484 | March 19, 2010 3:56 AM | Report abuse

Thiessen's comments are Orwellian nonsense - trying to paint his cause up as the opposite of what it really his. If George W. Bush ever reached across the aisle to Democrats in his administration, it was only lip service at best. Democrats were essentially shut out in Congress during the Bush years. Then when Obama took office, there has been no sign that Mitch McConnell had ever done anything more than offering a scorched-Earth approach to the Democrats. This is politics as war by other means.

In an area where there should be bipartisanship, financial reform, there will probably be none, as Republicans try to avoid any regulation of the financial industry.

Posted by: ablankinship | March 19, 2010 4:57 AM | Report abuse

Mark you are a very angry and deluded character. I guess that losing elections will do that to partisan hacks such as yourself. When the health care bill passes on Sunday; I hope your head implodes.

Posted by: ginabw | March 19, 2010 5:02 AM | Report abuse

What I'd like to know is why the Post prints pieces like this without any fact-checking -- without pointing out the numbers of times Republicans have used both reconciliation and "deem and pass" in the past. (Hint: often, and considerably more than Democrats.) I'm all for the Post printing a variety of opinions -- but not using its pages to allow blatant misinformation and hypocrisy to go unchecked. This is a public disservice and an abdication of journalistic responsibility.

Posted by: wheres_the_press | March 19, 2010 6:10 AM | Report abuse

lets see, obama looks to work with the Republicans yet pelosi and reid lock the Republicans out...
a sort of bait and switch...
obama gets his sound bite about working togeather...
pelosi and reid do what they want...
the dems are not fooling anybody...

Posted by: DwightCollins | March 19, 2010 6:15 AM | Report abuse

Lusiana Purchase. Trying to get paid twice for the same chunk of real estate by Napoleon. I never pay for the same piece of real estate twice. They're going to pay the doctor and congressman for the same operation too. Right now you just pay the doctor and the congressman needs brain surgery and his bimbo needs a breast transplant. Pay with plastic money for plastic surgery and look years younger in a big wood box. They'll read you your rights if they can find you in a Chicago cemetery. The FBI is involved and the police are busy people. Guns jamb.

Posted by: tossnokia | March 19, 2010 6:27 AM | Report abuse

I read to the part about your old boss. He was the one who wanted to bomb another country because there were no exciting targets in Afghanistan. Please don't apply that kind of logic to healthcare.

Posted by: MNUSA | March 19, 2010 6:45 AM | Report abuse

I was getting bombed and she was getting blown away. There goes the school bus. Keep the kids safe and the wife happy. Keep your steel sharp and your shotgun loaded.

Posted by: tossnokia | March 19, 2010 6:53 AM | Report abuse

This "writer" is an example of the worst scum in America. The bill should specify that he and his family get NO health care at all. I have never read the works of anyone who could lie as boldy, obviously, and often as this punk. The Post has become toilet paper and Hiatt should commit himself.

Posted by: MyCut | March 19, 2010 7:01 AM | Report abuse

Every time TORTURE-LOVER Thiessen opens his big yap a BIG lie will emerge!

There are 6 Republican senators retiring--if RepubliCANTS were so sure voters will hate health care reform any of them could vote with the Dems. Then Dems will be swept out of office come November.

BUT...Reps know Americans desperately want and need this bill and they are ever more desperate to stop Obama and the party from achieving any victories.

Posted by: suec716 | March 19, 2010 7:08 AM | Report abuse

For Republicans, bipartisanship means getting everything they want, despite the fact they're in the minority, AND that Obama was elected with a mandate for change. Thiessen is a political hack extraordinaire with no credibility. He was a speech writer for one of the worst presidents in American history for crying out loud. He made a living off spinning the Bush disaster, is anyone really listening to him?

Posted by: ggwalt | March 19, 2010 7:09 AM | Report abuse

next time america gets to go into an election booth these progressive disaster's will be out of power for 50 years.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | March 19, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Most of the comments appear to be gratuitous invectives. Anyone who posits arguments based upon invectives and unsubstantiated statements is either a liar, a simpleton, an irrational (sic crazy) being or a little of all. It is quite impossible to have a rational discussion when one side is irrational and incapable of understanding the position of the opposing view point. Maybe, just maybe, some of those with liberal persuasion should actually acknowledge that the conservatives truly believe in the position that govt expansion and spending is detrimental to ALL individuals, to the society at large, and to our ethos to which we owe our success as the greatest community (defense, economy, liberty, charity) that has ever existed in the history of this planet. What is so wrong with that? Why such anger and hatred? Why does it seem that so much of the depression and anger comes from the left? Accept personal responsibility for yourself and you just may find that the world and our society is not such a bad place.

Posted by: nothiringanyone | March 19, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Healthcare for all. Budget deficit cut!
America WINS! Obama Wins! The Democrats Win!
The party of NO! NO! NO! Loses.

The one sad thing is we do not have Government Run Healthcare - you know, the same kind we give the TROOPS! Then we could save even more money.

Posted by: chucky-el | March 19, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

FOX OFF ...

Posted by: Fei_Hu | March 19, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Pure unadulturated drivel. And so typical of Republicans who have perfected the art of political projection.

I should have stopped reading at the point where the author referred to his former boss Don Rumsfeld. What a crock!

Posted by: cogit845 | March 19, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

To quote your former boss Donald Rumsfeld, "We know where they [WMD] are. ... around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."


Posted by: leftcoaster | March 19, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Thiessen has consistently proven himself to be a partisan hack for the hard right, submitting to the party line by lining his pockets (with the help of WaPo) the easy way: rewriting the same article many-fold and even producing a book repeating the same lies over and over. He knows the republican strategy has been to block everything the dems do in order to get elected. Every reasonable and awake person in the world knows that. The consequence is continuing fiscal and moral problems for this country.

Frankly I'm too old to care anymore. I am just responding to this dumbass column to kill some time before I start working. I wish y'all luck in trying to save this nation from the republicans (and not a few democrats), who are all bent on distracting us from what some scholars call "constitutional faith," which is that a truly *united* United States can serve the interests of *all* its citizens and not the the wealthy and powerful few. I realize the notion that the US is grounded in a set of moral ideas is difficult for the hard right to understand, but the basic one is simple enough: that every citizen is owed equality of concern and respect.

Posted by: douard1 | March 19, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse


Wow. Most of the comments appear to be gratuitous invectives.

Posted by: nothiringanyone

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This is Mark "Al Qaeda Seven" Thiessen. If you want a serious debate, there are plenty of other op-ed writers on this site.

Posted by: leftcoaster | March 19, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

What is depressing about this comment is not that it is partisan. That is Thiessen's job apparently. It is that it is so childishly bad.

He is responding to a report about McConnell's actions in 2008 before Obama took office. And he is claiming that it was caused by Obama's behavior when he took office in 2009.

In a different context this might be the usual partisan claptrap. After all, Obama's stimulus measure was heavy in the kinds of tax cuts that Republicans like when a Democrat is not in office. In fact there is not a major measure Obama has passed that has not had ideas previously embraced by Republicans. Obama has had to pull Republican initiated ideas from health care reform because they have been mischaracterized and vilified by Republicans.

But distorting the history is pretty par for the course. Missing that he is answering an argument about behavior in 2008 and simply describing it as a response to behavior in 2009 though is a special kind of stupid. It really cheapens the Washington Post to have a columnist whose understanding of basic argument is that bad.

Posted by: beckerl | March 19, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans have too few numbers to stop anything the Democrats and their liberal allies really want. Their problem is that too many Democrats do not want or like what Obama/Pelosi/Reid are peddling. They are having to arm twist and buy off their own people to pass bills that the Amreican people do not want and really despise. It's easy for the liberals to blame the small Rebublican minority. In reality the American people do not want what they are peddling and politicians are afraid to support these unpopular bills.

Posted by: schmitt_fam | March 19, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Cute how you put "reconciliation" in quotes and label it a "trick."

Bipartisan initiative quick takes:

1) Over $280 billion in middle class tax cuts
2) Cap and trade (part of the McCain 2008 platform)
3) Immigration reform
4) Deficit reduction commission
5) Health Reform (remember the Gang of Six?)

Posted by: gmart68b | March 19, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Thiessen breathing exhaust fumes again. Any Op Ed that starts off by quoting a proven and utterly repudiated fool like Rumsfeld starts bad and only goes down hill. There are better conservative voices than this right wing hack. The only illogical premise illogically argued is his entire column.

Posted by: lloydamy | March 19, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

How does proposing "reform" which would have covered merely 3 million of the tens of millions of uninsured in any way represent a basis for "bipartisan compromise"?!? Essentially, Republicans seemed to have staked out a position early on in this debate amounting to "there really isn't any kind of significant problem here, we don't really need to make a substantive effort try to cover a significant percentage of these people".

Had they put forward some sort of legislation that might have covered, say, 15 or 20 million, I might give them credit for having proposed something substantive, even if I still felt it didn't go far enough. But they didn't try to do that, so their cries now that they were being ignored while the current bill was being drawn up by Democrats leave me cold.

Frankly, Republicans seemed to ignore the fact that there's a serious problem with access to health care in this country - something that I, as a doc who used to work at a community health center in Massachusetts, was vividly aware of up until our state passed its own reform bill in 2006. It wasn't just a theoretical issue for me during those years. I saw patients suffer major adverse health consequences as a result of inadequate access to care, hence it bothers me intensely when I see conservatives proposing "reform" that doesn't make any kind of serious dent in the numbers of the uninsured.

People die from lack of access to health care in our country. Be brave enough to suggest something that will actually make a significant difference for large numbers of the uninsured, if you want me to view you as serious about "bipartisan" reform.

Posted by: mjabele | March 19, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Cripes - why is this guy in my paper again? It's such a TORTURE to have to read him! Washington Post - why do you insist on TORTURING your readers this way???

Posted by: hohandy1 | March 19, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Thiessen's assertion that there was no compromise in the health care bill is just plain false, which is not surprising considering the source.

The bill has no single-payer healthcare system, no public option, not even an opportunity to buy into Medicare. In fact, the choices that Americans overwhelmingly support have all been compromised out of the bill. While it is marginally better than nothing, it could have been much better if Dems had NOT been so willing to "compromise on substance."

And after all that compromise, how many Republican votes is this bill going to get? My estimate: zero. Sounds like the New York Times article was right on target.

Posted by: ancient_mariner | March 19, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

So you once worked for Donald Rumsfeld? Was that before or after he ignored General Shinseki's professional military judgment and sent too few troops into Iraq to secure the country? Was that before or after he refused the professional military's request for more troops at Tora Bora? Was that before or after he refused to purchase body armor for our troops? Was that before or after he said "you go to war with the army you have not the army you wished you had"? When are you going to stop distracting readers from the fact that you worked for a war criminal?

Posted by: jsj20002 | March 19, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Jesus, this bill just has some basic fixes to the individual insurance market. These Republicans need to get their collective knickers out of a wad.

And speaking about men in knickers, why has the Washington Post turned into a lifetime pension plan for ex-GOP mouthpieces? Is this some new law that was passed in the twilight of the Bush administration that mandated a cradle to grave job protection program within the WaPo for every second string, B-grade Bush propagandist? Surely there must be other Republican voices out there?

Posted by: jaysit | March 19, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

The Washington Post presents "No Bushie Left Behind," starring Michael Gerson, Marc Thiessen, and Bill Kristol.

The Reds are jingoistic and uncreative, while the Dems are incompetetent and patronizing. That said, membership in either is still highly profitable.

Posted by: boredagain78 | March 19, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

The claims that Republicans were willing to help fix health care (or anything else) would have been far more believable if their leadership hadn't stated from the start they were going to oppose anything President Obama did on this issue, and many others as a political ploy. The current Health Care Bill is a copy of a Moderate Republican Bill in nearly all details, and goes to right on some the disagreeing parts. So why are there no Republicans voting for it?
Because the Modern Republicans ALWAYS PUT PARTY OVER COUNTRY!!

Posted by: Muddy_Buddy_2000 | March 19, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Thiessen whines again, just like the disgusting Taliban Bush a$$kisser he is.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | March 19, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Thiessen - More pathetic lies and conjecture. Have you no shame.

Posted by: dcperspective | March 19, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Hiatt sure loves old has-been speechwriters for George the Dumber for his daily Obama and Democrat bashing.

Here's another brilliant quote from Thiessen's old boss, Don Rumsfeld:

"I would not say that the future is necessarily less predictable than the past. I think the past was not predictable when it started."

Posted by: coloradodog | March 19, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

This guy was also Foreign Relations Committee spokesman for Senator Jesse Helms from 1995 to 2001. Need anyone say more?

Posted by: coloradodog | March 19, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

In my lifetime, only two Presidents had large majorities of his own party in both houses of Congress:

Lyndon Baines Johnson - after he trounced Goldwater
Jimmy Carter - after Nixon's Watergate.

In both cases, the Republicans in Congress shrunk to an even smaller minority than normal.

What both Johnson and Carter also have in common is that they were elected President only once.

Total control over both the Executive branch and large majorities in Congress by one party creates a sense of power that encourages politicians to ignore popular opinion and do what they think the people are too "dumb" to appreciate.

That's where we are today.

Posted by: jfv123 | March 19, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

If only the Democrats would do what the rest of us have done, and realize that these Republican obstructionists refuse... REFUSE to cooperate in good faith, then they would indeed start the steamrolling that the GOP would like to believe has been going on. It hasn't, yet. But it should start now.

Better late than never.

Posted by: bjameswi | March 19, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Orrin Hatch a "moderate"?

Looks like old Marc caught BDS at the White House (Bush Delusional Syndrome)

Posted by: coloradodog | March 19, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

My challenge to Mr. Theissen is to explain to me why the GOP starts out with an attack mode and then whines that the dems are not rolling over and giving them what they (the minority) want. I guess Mr. Theissen -- with his background -- is unfamiliar with the concept of how democracy works.

Reagan worked with the dems and the dems worked with Reagan. That was the last time that happened. Starting with Newt and Tom "the Hammer" the GOP has made attack the order of the day. The GOP IS stall, obstruct, lie, pander to the mob, pander to the haters (Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter, et.al.) BUT never actually try to help the other side govern.

Clearly, your time with Jesse Helms was well spent in educating you on how to be and act ignorant. I'll bet you believe the earth is only 6,000 years old. How about its shape, is it flat in your world?

To the WAPO bashers -- The FACT that Theissen and others of his ilk are found in the WAPO IS PROOF that the WAPO is a fair and balanced media source -- unlike FAUX News which is about as biased and unfair as possible. FAUX news is just another example of pandering to the mob. Murdoch believes in profit -- not the philosophy of his property BUT he is selling a product and the lemmings buy it.

Posted by: Freethotlib | March 19, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Thiessen's first line refers refers to comments of people with whom he disagrees, "so-called news."

Thiessen's first paragraph after quoting the people with whom he disagrees, starts with, "To paraphrase my old boss, Donald Rumsfeld ..."

That pretty much says it all about Mr. Thiessen's view of the world. Denigrate those with whom you have political issues, and rely on the reputation of a person that left office with credibility of the little boy with Oreo crumbs all over his face saying he does not know how the cookie jar fell to the floor.

As for President Bush "reaching across the aisle" on No Child Left Behind, is that the same President Bush that then worked to not fully fund the program, or is that the President Bush that told Democrats in 2004 that "elections matter" when pushing to change Social Security.

Posted by: kermit5 | March 19, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Shut up, torture boy.

Posted by: jjhare | March 19, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I have a great idea for a column: write outrageous crap designed to spark reaction to "prove" that people read me. But..wait...Thiessen stole my idea! Republicans under Speaker "Only the Majority Wins" Hastert, Tom "The Hammer" Delay and Dick "The Animal" Armey ran the House of Representatives for 10 years with an iron fist, highlighted by midnight votes, the "K" St. project and other legislative shenanigans. Thiessen is re-writing history to the point where he should go to work for the Texas School Board. What drivel. What an embarrasement to the Post. I'm finished with this guy until he finds all those WMDs.

Posted by: mgrace471 | March 19, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Don't you love it, a Rumsfeld acolyte talking about logic? Someone who proudly hails the fact that he was stupid enough to be subservient to the most incompetent SoD in recent memory. Contrast Rumsfeld with Gates, clear enough?

Posted by: instanton | March 19, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Mark Thiessen is nothing more than a plump, pink chickenhawk who sits on his fat fanny in Washington blowing neocon soap bubbles into the air.

Posted by: lobern | March 19, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Partisan hack* pens partisan drivel.

Dog bites man.

* former speechwriter for Donald Rumsfeld and George W. Bush

Posted by: crw3 | March 19, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I encourage everyone and anyone who might actually see this piece of crap Thiessen on the street to beat him senseless.
Kick his torture loving teeth down his lying throat. I guarantee you he's a pussy, and won't put up any kind of fight.

Posted by: strictly_liberal | March 19, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Fred Hiatt should be horsewhipped for printing this trash.

Thiessen? This guy is a former speechwriter for the Worst President In History, George Bush.

As of 2007, about one in 26 Americans have had cancer.

By 2020, roughly one in 19 will have been diagnosed with the disease.

45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE58G6W520090917

The Congressional Budget Office says that the health care bill will cut the deficit by 130 billion dollars the first ten years, and 1.2 trillion in the following ten years.

A new Associated Press-GfK Poll finds a widespread hunger for improvements to the health care system, which suggests President Barack Obama and his Democratic allies have a political opening to push their plan. Half of all Americans say health care should be changed a lot or "a great deal,"

…and only 4 percent say it shouldn't be changed at all.

Those teabagger nuts crying “tyranny”” are too funny.

It’s called “democracy” and you people lost the election, after having it your way for eight years, lying us into war, putting the Iraq and Afghanistan wars on a Chinese credit card, and causing the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

Right wing loons, you or someone in your family could get a serious disease or injury at any time. You could be financially wiped out in a day.

We rank 37th in health care in the world, and have the second highest infant mortality rate among the Western countries.

We are simply doing what 30 other Western nations have already done.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | March 19, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

If it has backfired so badly, how come with each passing day it appears more and more that health care legislation will pass? Let's just say, "there are known knowns and known unknowns," and one thing we know is that the Republicans love to force a fight, no matter how many lives go down in the process.

Posted by: crikey | March 19, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm all for opposing view in the Post, but I can read/haer Republican talking points just about anywhere. Is there an original thought in this guy's head? I keep hoping I'm gonna get a new episode, but it's all reruns here. Now, back to waterboarding my 6 year old....

Posted by: lectricbass | March 19, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Any man who crows that he worked for Donald "Known Unknowns" Rumsfeld should NOT be given space, cyber or print, to spew such particulate matter as this.

Just another smug twit with an 'R' next to his name. This guy makes Glenn Beck look smart.

As Bugs Bunny would say, "What a maroon!"

Posted by: Zino | March 19, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

To once again paraphrase his former boss Donald Rumsfeld, "Yes sir, Mr Saddam Hussein, you can have all the weapons and military maps you want. Now go bomb the s*** out of whoever opposes you"

Now, who wants to listen to his opinion on healthcare?

Posted by: leftcoaster | March 19, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

And instead of directing their comments at the issue being written about, the moonbats simply attack the writer. Hard to find a issue based comment in the list; just personal attacks.

Posted by: amazd | March 19, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Thiessen has no bona fides for critiquing any sentient beings.

Posted by: PatD1 | March 19, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

More self serving nonsense. The sharp partisan divides are a consequence of the radicalization of primaries where districts have been gerrymandered to insure re-election, the advent of cable news/internet/talk radio wherein news has been subverted by opinion designed to generate readers/viewers/listeners through the mechanism of generating strong emotional reactions in the consumer of thsat media. It was discovered such strong emotional reactions brought back to consume more of the same.

The article is self serving nonsense designed to produce an emotional reaction in the reader which will bring the reader back for more later on.

Posted by: kchses1 | March 19, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

more cr@p from the non-journalist wapo hack, not to mention nazi torture supporter.

Posted by: calif-joe | March 19, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

marc thiessen is 100% right. pelosi is twisting democrats' arms to vote for this, not republicans. the same was the case in the senate. and dont even get us started on the hatred between senate and house democrats.

this is democrats keeping pelosi care from passing. if its a half-way decent bill, why do they have to intimidate their own members into voting for it?

Posted by: dummypants | March 19, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse


Just fire this hack.

Posted by: dougd1 | March 19, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Thiessen, Gerson, Krauthammer, Gerson- wannabe-Lane, Parker, Marcus, Applebaum, Diehl, Kristol, Cohen and Will et. al.

Methinks, in reality, Rupert Murdoch and AIPAC jointly own WaPo and Fox News' Huckabee thug Ailes pulls Hiatt's marionette strings.

Posted by: coloradodog | March 19, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Thiessen is a liar, a hypocrite, an apologist for torture and illegal endless war, and has once again attempted to re-write established history.
This man should be ignored, shunned, pushed to the fringe and left there to stew in his own foulness.

Posted by: artatlarge | March 19, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

The difference between Thiessen's writings and garbage is that garbage gets picked up by sanitation workers instead of by Fred Hiatt.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | March 19, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

It really does say something about Mr. Thiessen's mental state when he refers to Orin Hatch as a "moderate." Hopefully, sooner rather than later the Republicans will recognize that they do not have the divine right of kings to rule, and will again become a responsible part of the democratic process.

Posted by: jdcolv | March 19, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Is there no senior editor at WaPo anymore? How could such nonsense get past a fact checker? The President has reached out more to Republicans than he has his own party. Democrats should have a public option in this bill and force it through like a Bush did with tax cuts to the super rich. If tea baggers don't want "socialized medicine" they should stay off socialized roads and bridges, don't call socialized police when they get mugged, don't eat socialized FDA food, don't drink socialized EPA certified clean water, don't call the socialized fire departent, don't step foot into socialized parks and preserves and put thier own little tea bagger stamps on their mai.

Posted by: mdenny1 | March 19, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

And instead of directing their comments at the issue being written about, the moonbats simply attack the writer. Hard to find a issue based comment in the list; just personal attacks.

Posted by: amazd
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Huckabee pot calling the kettle black as if the party of sneer, jeer and smear does not do the same thing to Obama.

Posted by: coloradodog | March 19, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Thiessen: "To paraphrase my old boss, Donald Rumsfeld..."

____________________________________

Ah yes, Donald Rumsfeld, the man who would not and would not listen.

The man who shared Dick Cheney's view that anyone with a different opinion should "Go **** yourself."

Having seen Thiessen on the 'The Daily Show with Jon Stewart' and having heard him on NPR, I can attest that Thiessen is no listener -- and, like Rumsfeld and Cheney, is capable only of partisan rants that have nothing to do with common sense, any question that might have been asked, or even the flow of the conversation.

He has his talking points and a fanatic's certitude. And, like the mindless automaton that he is, cannot deviate, improvise, or change.

Why someone of his low morals and non-existent intellect has been employed at the Washington Post remains a puzzle.

Given the Washington Post's balance sheet, how is wasting money on someone like Thiessen even a consideration?

Posted by: WhatHeSaid | March 19, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

And to think that the dummycrats believe the people won't hold them accountable for this fraudulent bill come November just shows how far detached from reality that these weasels are. They're done on November 4th, a mass firing squad awaits most of these fools, and deservedly so. Too bad we have to wait that long.

Posted by: hared | March 19, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

nothiringanyone wrote:

Wow. Most of the comments appear to be gratuitous invectives.
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that is all gerson's lies deserve

but then nothiringanyone wrote:

Anyone who posits arguments based upon invectives and unsubstantiated statements is either a liar, a simpleton, an irrational (sic crazy) being or a little of all

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I think this fool was trying to criticize gerson's detractors

instead he wrote the perfect description of gerson's whole portfolio

Anyone who posits arguments based upon invectives and unsubstantiated statements is either a liar, a simpleton, an irrational (sic crazy) being or a little of all, and deserves to be belittled with gratuitous invectives.

you know gerson is a paid liar, and you know this article is a pack of lies

so we're belittleing gerson with gratuitous invectives.

you got a problem with that ???

are you willing to sacrifice your credibility to defend this hack ???

Posted by: nada85484 | March 19, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm left bemused that so many Americans actually believe the sort of fantasy espoused by Thiessen. But I am more amazed at how the Republicans can be so organized and efficient. I understand that they are receiving considerable funding from groups that are opposed to the health care bill, but how is it that, with their relatively small numbers, the Republicans manage to block so effectively? Would it be good, I wonder, if Democratic minorities had this kind of discipline? I don't think so, but the net result is that under Democratic presidents, much of the legislative accomplishments are often the ideas of "moderate" Republicans. . . .

Posted by: dclehman | March 19, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

oops

change gerson to thisesen

these repuglotarded liars are getting so bad that you can't tell the repuglotarded liars apart without a scorecard

Posted by: nada85484 | March 19, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I am more amazed at how the Republicans can be so organized and efficient

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organized and efficient ???

have you seen Iraq lately ???

repuglotards are not "organized or efficient"

they just parrot the same repulotarded lies

lying is not efficient or organized

ask the 4,500 dead soldiers how organised and efficient thiessen and donal dumsfeld were

Posted by: nada85484 | March 19, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

"And for my NEXT joke...(ba-da-BOOM)"!

Posted by: wcmillionairre | March 19, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Why someone of his low morals and non-existent intellect has been employed at the Washington Post remains a puzzle

birds of a feather flock together

hiatt, gerson, this 4sshat, krauthammer

fools and liars

Posted by: nada85484 | March 19, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

What's a political hack? Read Thiessen, then balance it with Krauthammer. If only Pat Buchanan were writing his tired wheezes for the WaPo, the hack field would be pretty well covered.

Posted by: Lookinginfromoverseas | March 19, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Torture Thiessen is surely the most dishonest writer on the WaPo. Even as he wrote this he knew it was untrue, but those were the talking points and so he did his job. The WaPo can do better than this.

Posted by: gposner | March 19, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I suggest every registered commenter and subscriber to WAPO KISS (keep is simple...) Let's also keep it short:

"Mr. Hiatt: Please remove Mr. Thiessen as a columnist."

Taking the time to respond logically to his hack propoganda is a waste of time. Hundreds and thousands of messages from different people using the exact same words might actually get through.

Posted by: michael16 | March 19, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Dude: Were still looking for those WMDs. Meanwhile tens of thousands of innocents have been killed. Can't wait to see how St. Peter views Rummys logic.

Posted by: bob29 | March 19, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I watched the sarcastic Mr. Thiessen on the Daily Show explaining why it was appropriate to label as terrorists lawyers who defend people who are accused of terrorism. In Mr. Thiessen's world we're either with him or against him. All or nothing. He is, indeed, a true partisan, and a prime architect of the political and social mess we have today.
He's also one of the reasons that the GOP no longer runs things in this country, thank goodness.

Posted by: dparks2 | March 19, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I hope Thiessen picks up a copy of this newspaper and reads Dionne's and Robinson's editorials. They actually know what has been happening in Washington, and they write so much better, too.

Posted by: Louisecharles | March 19, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I've known Marc since he was in college and edited the campus conservative paper (don't ask how long ago that was...it hurts me as much as him). His writing might be better now, but his logic remains backwards. (I say his writing "might" be better, because he is a good writer, and he was back then too.)

Marc states that the reporting of the NYT is not really "news." Maybe, but then why does he have a problem understanding why there has been no compromise between the Democratic majority and the Republican minority. It is not because the Democrats don't want to find common ground, it is because the Republicans obstruct at every possible turn. In the two examples he cites, congressional minorities made a point of finding a way to work with the opposing party's President, not the other way around.

Perhaps the only legislation Senator McConnell could support would be to express America's love for puppies and kittens. Even then, if it was sponsored first by a Democrat, I suspect he would have trouble coming on board.

Posted by: noahkohn | March 19, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Thiessen, if President Obama didn't burst out of the gate with a raft of initiatives pleasing to Republicans, I'd suggest it was thrown into service putting out the numerous fires begun in the previous administration. Beginning with the full-scale meltdown of the economy. As the flames leapt higher the President should never have had to ask, "Brother, will you please grab a bucket?" But at some point he did. And astonishingly, the Republicans opted for dereliction of duty. That was shameful - complete abdication of their simple patriotic duty.

President Obama has shown cognizance that, as U.S. President, he leads a country of Democrats and Republicans. His policies in Iraq and Afghanistan and other decisions (retaining Secretary Gates and appointing Sentator Gregg among others)show acknowledgement and respect for political diffences. At every front he was met with unprecedented pure political stonewalling.

I audibly chuckled when I read your description that the Republicans "are in such a state of unprecedented party unity." And I don't chuckle easily. That is certainly one way to describe the state of the Republicans.

The GOP needs to learn that the majority of Americans are put off by public servants who behave like full-time cynical partisan electioneers. Most reasonable people just want good, efficient government, as small as necessary to keep the nebulous forces like those who contributed to the financial meltdown in check.

Posted by: firethief | March 19, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Thiessen didn't quote his other boss, Jesse Helms.

As usual, he's just putting lipstick on a pig.

Posted by: sr31 | March 19, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Ummmm, the above opinion is listed on this site as a partisan online blog, right? Seems like the real complaint in all these comments is the way that wapo.com is blurring the divide between news and commentary.
Maybe if fewer liberals loved to hate Fox News they would stop being the "news leader" that everyone strives to emulate. But damn, aren't they fun to hate?

Posted by: mcpuckett | March 19, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Marc, you lying traitorous Republicant!

RESIGN.

Seriously, this kind of drivel from the activists in the Republicant Party of No is just beyond BELIEF!

Posted by: WillSeattle | March 19, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Is this a joke? What the f*#K?


Posted by: wkristol | March 19, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Nada - you proved my point. You do not even pay attention to who is speaking, to what the argument is. You just care about spewing your hatred and irrational invectives. You offer nothing to the debate. Claiming the low ground is not something of which to be proud. I am embarrassed for you (I get the feeling you are shameless and have no idea how to be embarrassed). I do wish you well. I do not think your world is a good place to be.

Posted by: nothiringanyone | March 19, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

This is hilarious! You almost got me, too. But pretending the author is a war-criminal Rumsfeld toady was just too much. Otherwise, I would've bought your little pre-April fool's gag. Best comedy piece in the post in years!

Posted by: tomguy1 | March 19, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if this "Thiessen" guy is under the delusion that he's contributing to the national debate in any constructive way.

Posted by: leftcoaster | March 19, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

This hack is an idiot. He's a a partisan simpleton. PLEASE MAKE THIS NONSENSE STOP!!!!!

Posted by: mmclaughlin1 | March 19, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

I still have a petulant, spoiled adolescent streak in me. That qualifies me do Op-Eds for the Washington Post, right?

Jeezus this guy is bad. Beyond bad. He makes Krauthammer look like Socrates.

Posted by: st50taw | March 19, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

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