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Obama and Netanyahu: pointless poison

So it’s now been two weeks since President Obama chose to seize on a poorly-timed Israeli announcement about new Jewish housing in Jerusalem to launch another public confrontation with the government of Binyamin Netanyahu. The results, so far, are these:

Obama’s demand, through Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, that Israel reverse its decision on the new neighborhood and freeze all other new construction in Jerusalem has been publicly rejected by Netanyahu. And the administration, for the second time in a year, has backed down. “Ultimately,” said State spokesman P.J. Crowley at his briefing Tuesday, “the future of Jerusalem can only be resolved through the direct negotiations [between Israel and the Palestinians] that we hope will get started as quickly as possible.” That, word for word, has been the Israeli position all along.

Meanwhile, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has adopted Obama’s original demand as his own: He’s saying he won’t begin even the indirect, “proximity” talks he previously agreed to until Israel accepts the Clinton terms on Jerusalem. How could he do otherwise? The Palestinian leader cannot be less pro-Palestinian than the White House. But Abbas cannot climb down from his position so easily -- which means that, for the second time in a year, the Middle East peace process has been stalled by a U.S.-engineered deadlock. U.S. and Israeli negotiators worked until 3 a.m. Wednesday in an attempt to come up with a formula that would allow the talks to go forward. They met again Wednesday morning. So far, no luck.

Finally, Obama has added more poison to a U.S.-Israeli relationship that already was at its lowest point in two decades. Tuesday night the White House refused to allow non-official photographers record the president’s meeting with Netanyahu; no statement was issued afterward. Netanyahu is being treated as if he were an unsavory Third World dictator, needed for strategic reasons but conspicuously held at arms length. That is something the rest of the world will be quick to notice and respond to. Just like the Palestinians, European governments cannot be more friendly to an Israeli leader than the United States. Would Britain have expelled a senior Israeli diplomat Tuesday because of a flap over forged passports if there were no daylight between Obama and Netanyahu? Maybe not.

The White House’s explanations for Obama’s behavior keep shifting. At first spokesmen insisted that the president had to respond to the “insult” of the settlement announcement during a visit to Jerusalem by Vice President Biden -- even though the administration knew that, far from being a calculated snub, the decision by a local council had taken Netanyahu himself by surprise.

Next the administration argued that the scrap was a needed wake-up call for Netanyahu’s right-wing government, which, it was said, had been put on notice that its failure to move toward a settlement with Palestinians was endangering U.S. interests in the region. But -- assuming for the moment that the administration’s premise is correct -- Obama chose to challenge Netanyahu on a point that is not material to the creation of a Palestinian state. As the Israeli leader has pointed out, previous U.S. administrations and the Palestinians themselves have already accepted that Jewish neighborhoods in and around Jerusalem will be annexed to Israel in exchange for territory elsewhere.

U.S. pressure on Netanyahu will be needed if the peace process ever reaches the point where the genuinely contentious issues, like Palestinian refugees or the exact territorial tradeoffs, are on the table. But instead of waiting for that moment and pushing Netanyahu on a point where he might be vulnerable to domestic challenge, Obama picked a fight over something that virtually all Israelis agree on, and before serious discussions have even begun. As the veteran Middle East analyst Robert Malley put it to The Post’s Glenn Kessler, “U.S. pressure can work, but it needs to be at the right time, on the right issue and in the right political context. The administration is ready for a fight, but it realized the issue, timing and context were wrong.”

A new administration can be excused for making such a mistake in the treacherous and complex theater of Middle East diplomacy. That’s why Obama was given a pass by many when he made exactly the same mistake last year. The second time around, the president doesn’t look naive. He appears ideological -- and vindictive.

By Jackson Diehl  | March 24, 2010; 11:24 AM ET
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I won't hold my breadth for Diehl to adapt objectivity when writing about Israel. The biggest challenge to Israeli security is rooted in the assortment of apologists who choose to overlook Israeli transgressions while focusing on US behavior. Here's the story that Diehl would NEVER write: "What was Bibi thinking about when Israel announced MORE Jerusalem expansion HOURS before he was scheduled to meet with the President!" Bibi's gov't is either incompetent or dilusional. Either choice does more to put Israel at odds with it's allies than anything this President has done. How about a little ISRAELI accountablility?!

Posted by: TruthHurts2 | March 24, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

The continuing lack of objectivity and absolution of Israel for continuing to treat the US and the peacemaking process in general poorly needs to stop. Israel has dumbly placed itself on the wrong side of this debate, not Obama. At some point, Israel has to stop acting like a spoiled child and throwing tantrums, or simply, the aid must stop. They are not a viable nation without US aid, and yet, their wrongheaded actions jeopardize the lives of US soldiers everyday. At some point, they need to realize support for their right to exist does not come without obligations to undertake serious negotiations to end the Palestinian issue. The world is getting tired of their nonsense, even the US is showing it at this point. Good faith negotiations on peace and meaningful actions are the only way out.

Posted by: jacksquat100 | March 24, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Has Israel become a liability to the U.S? Vote

http://www.youpolls.com/default.asp

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Posted by: usadblake | March 24, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

What a hack job. The West Bank makes Darfur look like a tourist destination. The topic deserves serious, objective treatment by all parties, and the US engagement over the past year has been specifically aimed at creating an honest and equal partnership in negotiations. Dropping a settlement in East Jerusalem is quite the opposite of honest and equal dealing. Responsibility for the entire sequence of recent events lies squarely on the shoulders of the Israeli government; a government which is currently tied down by right wing religious extremists, and led by a Prime Minister with an established track record of not caring one iota about the future of Palestinians.

Posted by: hiberniantears | March 24, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

I suppose in the President's response to Israel, he looked despondent, weary, tired, and not enjoying the Presidency. I fail to understand how the Post can continue this rant against the President. Diehl needs to find a country he can be happy in---or give up his Israli citizenship. How is America's interest served by a blind obedience to every act and wish of Israel?

Posted by: gondola2 | March 24, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

What is it with the Washington Post and Israel? Why do you insist that Israel can do no wrong? Yesterday Tom Shales wrote a horrible piece of poorly sourced innuendo suggesting that Christiane Amanpour is a poor choice to host a TV news program because she doesn't endlessly cheerlead for Israel. As far as I can tell all of your opinion columnists are in the same boat. Netanyahu's not ideological and vindictive? A little objectivity would be appreciated.

Posted by: Gutavo | March 24, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Just send Joe Biden over. He'll pizz everybody off with stupid gaffes and the resulting war will give the Middle East 100 years of peace.
Iran will be a smoking hole and the 'Palestinians' will go back to Jordan where they belong.

Posted by: Etek | March 24, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

WHAT IS WRONG WITH CRITIQUING THE PRESIDENT'S TEAM WHEN THEY DON'T MEASURE UP TO THE JOB? GET HILLARY AND GEORGE OUT OF THERE AND DEFINITELY KEEP JOKING JOE AWAY FROM THE ACTION. AND WHERE IS THE SANCTIONS PROPOSAL AT THE U.N? THIS YEAR SOMETIME WOULD BE NICE. TIME IS RUNNING OUT.

Posted by: DANSHANTEAL1 | March 24, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

FACT CHECK.COM;,---
Mike Gerson, Charles Krauthammer, Bill Kristol, Bob Kagan, Jonah and Bernie Goldberg, Ben Stein, Robert Hayes, Paul Wolfowitz, Podhoretz,David Frum and with a few Gentiles thrown in for cover like, Dick and Liz Cheney, John Bolton, John Yoo all work for the American Enterprise Institute, Weekly Standard, Heritage Foundation. These people lobby for the Israeli gov. and most have dual citizenship with Israel. Their Agenda; Promote War for Israel , just like they did for Iraq, and now want to Nuke Iran so that Israel can expand. This group practically run the Republican Party because they know that they can manipulate them more easily , because of their un-educated masses . Israel is the aggressor -- not Iran.Iran needs to develop the Bomb so Israel stops riding roughshod over all of it's neighbors , under the pretense that everyone is Anti-Semite, they are not , they just want the Greed, Conniving, and aggression to stop. The Palestinians live like they do in Haiti and the Jews live like they do in Miami Beach. Put a stop to these War-Monger Neo-Cons.

Posted by: orionexpress | March 24, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

My goodness you Israel-firsters must be desperate. Never before have I seen so many columns devoted to Israel's defense even after the continuing slaps in the face to the USA's honor by Netanyahoo and his cadre. Do you people even care about the USA? Gosh Jackson, pretty much every article I have read by you shows you to be nothing more than an apologist for Israel on AIPAC's payroll. That's a bad "Diehl" for everyone.

Posted by: Desert_Fox | March 24, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

If Jerusalem is divided again, there is no God.
If God prospers Israel in the direction they are going and their associations, there is no God.
If God prospers Israel in their manner of building settlements, there is no God.
If the two state solution to Israel-Palestine is accomplished, there is no God.
There is one God and He guides and directs this world; these plans for Israel are not written.

Messiah, Mahdi, and other expected great ones will only come with the word of God, the same, yesterday, today and forever. If the people of religions continue to reject the word of God given to their prophets and refuse to follow it, they would not recognize their Messiah, Mahdi etc. if he dwelt among them.

If a Messiah comes with nail scared hands and feet with a pierced mark in his side and say that the law of Moses was done away including the memorial feasts of Leviticus 23, Ten Commandments of Exodus 20 including the 7th day Sabbath of no work for any, or the New Year and Passover of Exodus 12, he would be the false prophet of Deuteronomy 13. Jesus "magnified the law and made it honorable" Isaiah 42:21.

Only the truth of God’s word as it is written will save us from great horrors being prepared. God Himself is the only Messiah, Mahdi, deliverer and Savior.

Marie Devine
Kansas City, Mo.
Divine-Way.com

Posted by: MarieDevine | March 24, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Post, NYT and Congress are all Zionist operations. This is why they attack our own leaders at every turn if this pleases the Israeli Jewish political classes. After wiping out Jimmy Carter for daring to correctly compare Israel with South African apartheid systems, the Zionists are now aiming to destroy Obama for daring to force Israel to stop violating UN resolutions and colonizing Muslim parts of Jerusalem and the West Bank.

This business is going to backfire very badly here in America. We cannot support ethnic cleansing and segregated housing and denial of civil rights in Israel. Obviously, this is immoral and political poison! We must denounce these things and not financially support them.

Posted by: elainemeinelsupkis | March 24, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Israel's Solutions are found in this YouTube comment:

FEAR NOT; it disarms enemies. Fear = war. God is protector when they trust Him.
God stirs up people against Israel when then ignore His word. Psalm 1, 2: God destroys works of joined nations (UN, EU, US). Iran, UN, etc are fulfilling God's word: nations want to wipe out Israel. God proves Himself by protecting Israel in spite of multitudes. Like 2 Chron. 20:15-20.
Religions are in error: Jesus said live by every word of God. Muhammad said follow Torah and Gospel, all God's words.

Marie Devine
Kansas City, MO
Divine-Way.com

Posted by: MarieDevine | March 24, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

We all forget one thing -- "East Jerusalem" is very liberally defined by the Israelis. It included suburbs and exurbs that extend far into the West Bank. The assertion that Israel will keep building in East Jerusalem then simply means that it will keep expanding into territory -- prime territory -- that the Palestinians need to have a viable state. Take a look at the map of the settlements sometime. It is quite sobering, and shows that Israel has no intention of ending its colonial enterprise.

Posted by: Momo6 | March 24, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

A flap over forged passports, wow. Isreali agents stealing British citizens identities to facilitate an assassination in Dubai is a simple flap over forged passports? Give diplomats a little credit here, it seems like a reasonable response.

Posted by: Dremit97 | March 24, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

It is the Government of Israel which is a poision. The US has spoiled the Government of Isreal over the years and has fostered and enabled it to become the worlds largest bully. President Obama now has to figure out how to change the behavior of a spoiled brat which has become a bully. I wish him luck!

Posted by: lairb7 | March 24, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

There must be some word for when a partisan pretending to be unbiased resorts to assinine illogic when his side is clearly wrong and falling apart. According to Mr. Diehl, it is now our president's fault--and not Israel's--that Britian kicked out the Mossad agent/"diplomat"! Further, he claims Israel is only guilty of "bad timing": for the 3rd time in a row now! Are you claiming the Palestinians can also start building inside the green line -- or is this just another half-baked double standard?

Someone who is so totally blind to what Netanyahu is doing should think about his priorities and not just knee-jerk criticize the US. As Tom Friedman just wrote, making excuses for drunk-driving is not helping a friend, and Netanyahu is the drunk driver.

Diehl needs to get out of his cozy "think tanks" and face reality -- if Netanyahu continues to provoke our president, who only wants peace, then the US public will be siding with Obama. Then where will Israel be?

Posted by: arpy58 | March 24, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Read the comments on this article and you will see that Arab appeasement is hard at work both in the White House and in the nation. Antisemitism is as powerful a force in America as it has been in other times in other nations. Jew hate is alive and well in Washington and elsewhere, especially the arab world.

The realistic solution to the West Bank problems is to negotiate a treaty between Jordan and Israel that provides for a West Bank Palestinian Jordanian protectorate!

The realistic solution to the Gaza problems is to negotiate a treaty between Egypt and Israel that provides for a Gaza Palestinian Egyptian protectorate!

Voila, done!

But, the arabs don't like it.

So, Obama doesn't like it.

And the antisemites don't like it.

Because it doesn't destroy the Jewish State of Israel.

Clear enough?

Posted by: bert8 | March 24, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

The whole of the Israeli-Palestinian mess should be turned over to Diehl, Krauthammer and all their friends at AIPAC, with one proviso. They get fourteen months (the same time Obama has had) to produce serious peace negotiations between the sides. If they succeed, we continue to follow the lead they set. If they fail, they must make a choice. They either shutup and let the administration elected to do the job do the job; or, they continue in controlling the process, but all US military trade with Israel ends.

Posted by: kermit5 | March 24, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I never post on these things, but I have to just state my agreement with the others who have commented on the obvious lack of objectivity in the article. Even for the Opinion section this is laying it on thick. Diehl, how can you suggest that forging passports is "no big deal" and no one would probably care if it weren't for Obama being such a mean doody-head? That assertion right there makes anything you say just ignorable nonsense.

As someone who pretends to care about the US or Israel, how can you honestly make the assertion? Forged documents are a basic requirement of any foreign agent who wishes to commit terrorism within the US or Israel. Not only that, but the forged documents were not used to take a holiday in Dubai. They were used to assassinate someone. Again, your contention that the UK somehow overreacted is beyond absurd. Also, since you're not a student of history, Margaret Thatcher expelled Israeli diplomats over almost the exact same thing back in 1986. Are you suggesting that Reagan was not "cozy" enough with Israel either?

Posted by: fatty2 | March 24, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Would any other world leader, even a enemy, expect good treatment after intentionally slighting our VP, and intentionally sinking a major part of our foreign policy. Any country which gets 6 billion/year in aide, and produces no end of trouble for the USA should at least not rub our faces in their lack of concern for our wishes.

I am becoming more convinced that the USA needs to teach Israel a hard lesson. Cut their aide by 20% for a year, and notify them that we plan to phase out the aid within x years. I certainly support Israel's right to exist, and even the strength of their claim to East Jer, but they are out of control. The fact that Hamas, and Hezzie are far, far worst, doesn't excuse Israel's lack of deference to their benefactors in the USA.

If Israel is a big enough boy to split in our President's face like this, they are big enough to pay for their own defense. Their economy drawfs that of most of their opponents combined anyway.

Posted by: Muddy_Buddy_2000 | March 24, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

@bert8

Not everyone who disagrees with a Jewish person is an anti-semite. I have not seen one person on here commenting about how the "Jewish state should be destroyed." If the US is going to condemn Palestinian terrorism, then be prepared for the US to suggest that maybe Israel shouldn't build settlements in the middle of Jerusalem, everyone's favorite place to claim as "their" hold land. Put your rhetoric away, and contribute to the discussion with logical argument and critical thinking.

Posted by: fatty2 | March 24, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

The US pays a heavy price for its association with Israel. Most terrorist attacks (against the US) happen because of the US support for Israel. All this hellish air-travel, not to mention the costs associated with it, comes directly as a consequence of Israeli behavior.

Israel also makes things very hard for the US. If the Israelis behave the way they do, what can you say to Iran? Israelis cannot help the US in anyway even if they wanted to. They cannot be part of any coalition. They are increasingly becoming like the South Africans in the apartheid era with the lone friend in the US.

Despite all this, US puts up with the likes of Nethanyahu. Times are different now. The cold war is over. Israel needs to recognize that. The US cannot defend the indefensible forever. Americans (including Jewish Americans) also need to recognize that and support their leaders who take a strong stance with regard to Israel.

Posted by: pattr1 | March 24, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I think Diehl is 100% correct. First, I do not believe that Netanyahu deliberately advanced these permits for two reasons: 1. A few days prior to the announcement, he intervened with the mayor of Jerusalem to delay the launching of another plan in the Silwan area that had been widely discussed in the media; 2. Because Israeli law has been applied to Jerusalem, this became an ordinary zoning and planning issue. Just as Obama isn't expected to know of every zoning matter and proposed project pending before the DC Council or Arlington County Board of Supervisors, I don't think that Netanyahu sits around all day reading the minutes from the zoning commission.

The reality is that Obama helped Abbas climb up a very tall tree. I don't see why he rejects the direct talks that Netanyahu has consistently called for. I would think it would be better for Abbas to enter direct talks and see what Netanyahu really has to offer in terms of creating a state next to Israel. During the past 17 years of negotiations, there hasn't been a real settlement freeze - even from left wing governments. So who honestly thinks that a right wing government will concede this? It would be better for Obama to invest his efforts in creating a state than focusing on this side issue, which only diverts and delays the real talks from beginning.

Posted by: NoVa4 | March 24, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

FACT:

the Armistice Line (which became the Green Line) from the agreement with Jordan:

""... no provision of this Agreement shall in any way prejudice the rights, claims, and positions of either Party hereto in the peaceful settlement of the Palestine questions, the provisions of this Agreement being dictated exclusively by military considerations"

and

"The Armistice Demarcation Lines defined in articles V and VI of this Agreement are agreed upon by the Parties without prejudice to future territorial settlements or boundary lines or to claims of either Party relating thereto."

So if the parties to the Armitice agree it wasn't a border -- and perhaps this was the only thing they ever agreed on -- then it certainly isn't a winning argument to claims that this was an internationally recognized border.

Barry O's madrassa inspired move backfired.

Posted by: craigslsst | March 24, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

To @bert8: You are wrong. All you need do is read many of the pro-Israeli comments posted here. It is evident that anyone, even Jewish people, that believe settlements(West Bank, East Jerusalem or anywhere else) create an impediment to peace hates Jews. What is important is we do not say, we do not write, and we do not think anything different than the Israeli government line else we become bigots.

Posted by: kermit5 | March 24, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Diehl, hope you are reading the feedbacks

Posted by: pattr1 | March 24, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

It is two strikes for Israel, my friend.

Americans are fed up with Israeli intransigence. Billions in direct aid and additional billions indirectly. Plenty of American blood spilled as well.

Many of us are pro Israel, but the time has come for a return on our investment.

If they can't get on board a peace process then it is time to loosen the tether that keeps them sailing so close to us. Let us see how they fare in a turbulent ocean without us for a time.

Posted by: heycoachb | March 24, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

No, Mr. Diehl. It is you and Israel that have it wrong.

Israel has no inherent right to Jerusalem since it was occupied during a war and never relinquished.

It is LONG past time when the United States put some serious pressure on Israel to stop "stirring the pot"!

Posted by: repmisc | March 24, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Being for endless occupation is not pro-Israel. It's anti-Israel, looking long term. The Israeli right wing and US Neocons/Christian right are dead wrong. A 2-state solution with a viable Palestine with a shared Jerusalem is the only possible solution. Without that, the other outcomes destroy Israel: Israel becomes apartheid, is overwhelmed demographically, or there's an apocolyptic war. The disaster is coming, and I'm glad Obama is trying to steer Israel from the abyss.

Posted by: utec | March 24, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Diehl writes "even though the administration knew that, far from being a calculated snub, the decision by a local council had taken Netanyahu himself by surprise"

Are you kidding me? We're talking Israeli politicians here. The move to humiliate Biden was well executed.

As a naturalized American, I felt disgusted.

If your loyalties lie with another country, please do us the favor of moving there. We have enough people in the US who think "Israel first".

Posted by: RMM007 | March 24, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I do not like the deputy editorial editor for the Post to be a shill for the Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. and for his Embassy.

Diehl once served in Jerusalem and has no/no perspective on Palestinian grievances. Whatever peace process may have existed is at a halt and Diehl lays it all off on the Palestinians. Road to progress? I don't think so and I don't need Diehl to feed Israeli views to me.

Can Diehl explain to us the views and influence of Israel's far-right Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, a man who lives within a settlement? Give it a try.

Posted by: harper-d | March 24, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

The more we distance ourselves from that repulsive little country, the better.

Posted by: GrumpyOldMan | March 24, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I sense that the people of the US are waking up to what has been happening in the ME for a long time. The Israel Firsters are having a tough time today. Mr. Diehl, time to change course and find new words? Justice is the only way forward.

Posted by: postReader2006 | March 24, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

i do not understand what right we have to be ordering israel to obey us.do we order india to do as we say over kashmir?
israel is a sovereign state.obama's behaviour to israel is unseemly.

Posted by: razor2 | March 24, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

The idea that Israels and U.S. interests are identical is simply laughable. Just apply the same dumb logic to another ally of ours, let's say, Germany or England, and you see the absurdity of it. But of course any critique of Israel's policies is "Antisemitism" (see idiots like 'bert8').

The bottom line is: Israel (under any of its administrations) is creating "facts" on the ground in the West Bank - settlements, wall etc. - to annex the land it does not have the legal right to. But it can not re-draw its borders to make the West Bank a part of Israel either because it would loose it's Jewish majority due to the huge amount of Palestinians who would have to become Israeli citizen (unless Israel would expel them). So, it's chipping away, step by step, maintaining nothing else but a de facto Apartheid system, with the Palestinians being second class citizens of their own land, ridiculously restricted in their very basic use of roads, water, land etc. etc. Just go visit the West Bank. Many Israeli soldiers call the Palestinians "donkeys", it's an eye opener.

The most influential Arab countries (Saudis, Egypt) on the other hand couldn't care less about Palestine. They use it only as a political talking point, especially domestically. Those regimes' main problem is not Israel but the push for democracy from the secular 'left' and even more the religious radicals to the 'right'.

That makes a two state solution simply a mirage, no matter what any U.S. President will say or do (remember when George W.Bush tried to reign in on Israel very early into his presidency?). The very term "two state solution" exposes on its face the fact that Palestine is not a viable state, it has some land and that land is occupied by Israel. Israel knows that the U.S. will never walk away from them. It can't. The rest is bare-knuckle Israeli domestic politics, pure and simple.

Posted by: piwinter | March 24, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

perhaps obama should start by ordering iran to obey him.
obama has now alienated all our friends including the uk israel and the east european nations.he loves third world dictators.birds of a feather.

Posted by: razor2 | March 24, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Deihel lost all the credibility which he never had when he wrot:"new Jewish housing in Jerusalem?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????."

Housing???? Outright theft and colonization of Palestinian homeland finaced by US taxpayers'money IS SIMPLY new jewish Housing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!while the Palestinian owners of the demoilished house in Jerusalem are "living" on the streets of Jerusalem. of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How shameful,dihel.

jews now occupy 100% of Arab historic Palestine and have colonized over 94% of it and mutilated the balance.

Additionally, jewsis terrorist organizations such as Haganh,Shtern,Irgun ethnically cleansed over 70% of the indigenous Palestinian Peole in 1947/8 who now number six million and still languish in refugee camps near Palestine for the past 61 years.

jews inavded and occupied the rest of Palestine in 1967 and have since imposed a brutal military apartheid regime on the remaining five million indigenous Palestinians in all of historic Palestine.

The One state solution is a de facto:the existing jewish apartheid regime will never be accpeted by the world:justice,time and history are on the side of the downtrroden,occupied and otherwise exiled Palestinian People.

Posted by: asizk | March 24, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

what puzzles me is the insistence of those who bad-mouth israel.they tell us this has nothing to do with hatred of jews.

has this hatred really disappeared?remember it overwhelmed europe seven decades ago.why would it stop?

i submit this hatred is alive and well among the left in the united states.they have formed an alliance with the kkk and white supremacists.

Posted by: razor2 | March 24, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Yet another nit-wit reporter of the pro-Israeli Lobby ilk offers us his "Un-Biased" opinion about why President Obama shouldn't have tried to “dis” our so-called "friends" in the mid-east. Said friends of an ill-disguised form of theocracy passing itself off as democracy; friends who have continued to ignore International calls to cease and desist their de-facto encroachment onto others lands; friends who – by virtue of the very sort of blanket support America has given them over the years and which this reporter seems to continue to favor – causes us ever-ending misery in terms of the lives and treasure we have to spend because of their ridiculous biblical fixations and obstinacy.

Enough Already! Let’s cut the purse strings on these Jokers. If they don’t want to compromise and end this festering problem (going on over 60 years now) then I see no reason to have my tax nickel spent to continue to support them.

Posted by: davidelder | March 24, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Look! I listened to Hillary and Bibi at AIPAC and also Congress....

The dice is loaded - from a historical perspective. Demography and current apartheid policy of this rightist regime will mean an end of a Jewish state.

Diehl is not an American patriot. He's along with rest of WP editorial clowns(!)absolutely in the pay of AIPAC and Nethanyau's talking points. They never, if ever, deal with objective reality facing both Israelis and Palestinians.

POTUS is attempting to find a thread to bind the antagonists to a peace process and resolution of two-state solution. Nethanyau's wife's brother labels POTUS an anti-semite and calls him *Hussein* to make his point that POTUS is pro-PLO.

Reminds one of GOPs HC Tea Party slogans labelling POTUS with pulling the plug on grandma! Lies and more lies!

Neither Israel nor Palestinians - children of Abhraham - need to lie about the facts on the grounds created by IDF and Moosad.
At this rate, the notion of a Jewish state might really become a theoretical idea, me thinks.

Posted by: hariknaidu | March 24, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

i repeat a comment i saw elsewhere:

"even if israel consisted only of tel aviv and the prime minister of the jewish state was mahatma gandhi the hatred of israel would still be as strong."

Posted by: razor2 | March 24, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Americans should be allowed to criticize Israel behavior without being accused of being Anti-Semitic. I am just tired of spending tax payer money we don’t have to continue to dehumanize a whole generation of Palestinians. Here is what Israel wants us to do now:

The third "ask" that AIPAC supporters will make of Congress on Tuesday is to once again pass the $3 billion in U.S. aid provided annually to Israel. "It's a very tough ask this year," Aserkoff admitted, noting the U.S. domestic budgetary and economic challenges. Among other major purchases, the Israeli government has announced plans to replace its aging fleet of F-16 fighter jets with new, American-made F-35 fighters, a major cost that Israel hopes will be substantially borne by American taxpayers.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1973983,00.html#ixzz0j7RK8n6N

Posted by: Darmstrong11 | March 24, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

The American People should descend upon Washington and liberate Capital Hill from aipac and jews;then it will be easier to liberate Palestine and free the oppressed indigenous Palestinian People and allwo th ereturn of the exiled Palestinian.

Posted by: asizk | March 24, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I am just plain sick and tired of the Zionist apoligists troting out that bromide of anti-semitism everytime these criminal Zionists who happen to be Jews are treated as people who have to be responsible for their behavior! I could care less if the Israelis are Jews, Christians, snake worshipers, or worshipers of the Great Pumpkin! The fact is these peoples are international criminals, international terrorists, in violation of inumerable UN resolutions, in violation of International law; they have siezed lands, people, and resources illegally and failed to repatriate the same as required by law and basic humanity; they have acted in ways that can only be labeled Beastial and have committed crimes against humanity; they have justified their acts of cruelty and insanity as some God given right to lands that their ancesters may have occupied in some distant past; lands that there own histories reveals that they had taken the lands then in similar wars of agression and conquest! These people have NO claim to steal these lands; These people have no claim on any alligance or support by America; These people must yield to the world or face the consequences of their criminal behavior! America MUST give up the blind support of these misguided peoples!

Posted by: Chaotician | March 24, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse


Let me summarize:

Poor little Israel. It's all Obama's fault! and Abbas! The only fair thing to do is to let Israel establish as many "facts on the ground" as it can to assure it has acquired the maximum possible advantage over Palestinians.

But maybe, Mr. Diehl, Abbas has realized that Israeli commitments are worthless; the government in power does what it wants to with little regard for previous promises or any Palestinian authority.

Posted by: j2hess | March 24, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

The quality and tenor of Diehl's recent sequence of extremely one-sided articles by a senior Post editorial manager are disturbing.

His recent pro-Israel articles are not serious analysis; they're primarily efforts to exculpate Israel at the expense of President Obama. Diehl does not consider the objectives and the security needs of the United States in our relationship with Israel.

Most of us who read this stuff are neither Palestinians nor Israelis. We are Americans, and it is in our great tradition to seek middle ground. There can be no middle ground if we simply acquiesce in Israel's policy that what's theirs is theirs, and what isn't can be settled.

Israel's annexation of Jerusalem was illegal under international law (as opposed to Israel's own habit of giving itself legal rights in whatever it does).

Israel did not incorporate the Palestinian residents of Jerusalem as citizens. Palestinians, regardless of how long they and their families have lived there, can't build new homes and can be thrown out with very little excuse.

That is not a basis for peace. Obama is right to object. Diehl is wrong to repeatedly use the Post's editorial space for a special pleading, and the Post's Editorial Board ought to consider carefully whether this is an appropriate use of the newspaper's space.

Posted by: redant | March 24, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

chaotician dont be too confused.you are just another hater.
"zionists"? you mean jews.have the courage and say it.

"who happen to be jews" dont make me laugh and stop being a worm.

Posted by: razor2 | March 24, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

"repulsive little country"

yet another hater of the jewish people.

as for "billions i aid" that is a swinish lie.israel receives fighter jets helicopters and spare parts.that is all it receives.

Posted by: razor2 | March 24, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

chaotician dont be too confused.you are just another hater.
"zionists"? you mean jews.have the courage and say it.

"who happen to be jews" dont make me laugh and stop being a worm.

Posted by: razor2 | March 24, 2010 2:58 PM


Well said, and amen, brother!

Posted by: captn_ahab | March 24, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Could it be that Israel manufactured this to point out just how pro-Palestinian the current administration is?

Joe the Plagerizer has made no secret of his anti-Israel postion.

Hillary and Bill have received millions from Arabic countries.

Obama has been involved with a love-fest romance with the Muslims.

Perhaps this was all to show these folks that Israel won't lay down for them and is quite content to wait until they have real friends in the White House who are interested in real peace for the Middle East.

Israel certainly is not without fault but to attempt to cast them as worse than the Palestinians is lunacy and mendacity.

The real issue is the only Israel that the Palestinians and the Arabic world is willing to accept is an Israel without Jews.

Peace won't come until they abandon their dreams of genocide.

Posted by: krankyman | March 24, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

"President Obama chose to seize on a poorly-timed Israeli announcement about new Jewish housing in Jerusalem to launch another public confrontation with the government of Binyamin Netanyahu."

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Poorly-timed Israeli announcement? No, it was precisely timed. Do you think we are idiots?

Posted by: sr31 | March 24, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

It's crystal clear that Obama wants a new relationship with the Muslim world. He thinks if he can improve diplomatic relations with them, it will lead to a less bellicose Iran (which will lead to them not developing a nuke and will enable the US to pull troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan), will undercut islamic fundamentalism, and lead to a resolution of the palestinian problem. Of course, to get really better relations with the muslims, he must throw israel under the bus. And IMO that's exactly what he plans to do.

Posted by: JohnR22 | March 24, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Do you really think that the Obama adminsitration is naive, Mr Diehl? I am sure they thought it through and giving into a tactic by Netanyahu to manoover out of this and hit another issue was probably analyzed as lack of boa fe on the part of Netanyahu. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!

Posted by: hamid1 | March 24, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Diehl: "waaah waaah waaah."

Posted by: brickerd | March 24, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

We give billions to Israel, billions each year.

Its time Israel be given marching orders - make peace with the Palestinians or find those billions somewhere else.

This charade has gone on for too long.

Posted by: Richard18 | March 24, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

seems more like two strikes for Netanyahu.

Posted by: scientist1 | March 24, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I am not sure how Mr. Diehl has more authoitative information than the whole US government. It seems that Mr. Diehl is trying to suggest that this was a benign oversight on part of the Israeli government which knows exact movements of its enemies but have no idea what local councils are doing in their own country - especially when it relates to sensitive topic like settlement. The local council didn't announce plans to build a hospital or a road - they announced an unprecedented settlement project which is a major issue between Israelis and Palestinians. I think Clinton said it best - friends have an obligation to call you out when you are wrong. No harm done there. I think Mr. Diehl is unnecessarily harsh on Mr. Obama.

Posted by: mrk_6 | March 24, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

US should have placed sanctions on Israel when they elected that thug Netanyahu. I come from the most part as pro-Israeli but Netanyahu is a borderline terrorist, war criminal and supremacist.

Posted by: savage0409 | March 24, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

The Jewish lobby and Israeli supporters in the U.S. are a bar to resolution of the conflict. They bring pressure on Congressmen who disagree with Israel's policies by withholding financial and political support, thus preventing a Palestinian state and maintaining the status quo. In the best interests and security of America, Congress needs to show some spine and stand up to Israel -- either stop the aid or vote against Israel in the U.N. Israel needs to know they no longer have the U.S. in their pocket. Perhaps, that will be motivation to come to the peace table.

Posted by: fedup32 | March 24, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

The Jewish lobby and Israeli supporters in the U.S. are a bar to resolution of the conflict. They bring pressure on Congressmen who disagree with Israel's policies by withholding financial and political support, thus preventing a Palestinian state and maintaining the status quo. In the best interests and security of America, Congress needs to show some spine and stand up to Israel -- either stop the aid or vote against Israel in the U.N. Israel needs to know they no longer have the U.S. in their pocket. Perhaps, that will be motivation to come to the peace table.

Posted by: fedup32 | March 24, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

An incredible "analysis"! What do you suggest Jackson, that Obama and Biden publicly apologize to Bibi for their heavy handedness and issue and executive order incresing aid to Israel by 30% as compensation for their boorish behavior?

Posted by: johnyb | March 24, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

America First

The relationship with Israel is important, but not more important than America itself. The right wing (Likud and allies) nut cases in Israel are dragging there country towards
the cliff and dragging America with them.

And AIPAC shills/cronies would parrot for Israel rather than stand for America.

Shame on you

Posted by: Republicanshavenoshame | March 24, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

We need to cut off the money wasted on Israel and that jerk Netanyahu needs to stay in Israel,Our President has to work on our problems here, he or noone else can fix things over there and shouldent even waste time trying.Its not going to happen as long as Israel refuses to be resonable and do their part in the peace process.

Posted by: smorrow | March 24, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey Chaotician,

As Bob Dylan said, you just rearrange their faces and give them all another name.

"I am just plain sick and tired of the Palestinian apoligists troting out that bromide of Palestinian victimhood everytime these criminal Islamist terrorists, who happen to be Arabs, are treated as people who have to be responsible for their behavior! I could care less if the Palestinians are Arabs, Christians, snake worshipers, or worshipers of the Great Pumpkin! The fact is these peoples are international criminals, international terrorists, in violation of inumerable UN resolutions, in violation of International law; they have siezed lands, people, and resources illegally and failed to repatriate the same as required by law and basic humanity; they have acted in ways that can only be labeled Beastial and have committed crimes against humanity; they have justified their acts of cruelty and insanity as some God given right to lands that their ancesters may have conquered in some distant past; lands that there own histories reveals that they had taken the lands then in similar wars of agression and conquest! These people have NO claim to steal these lands; These people have no claim on any alligance or support by America; These people must yield to the world or face the consequences of their criminal behavior! America MUST give up the blind support of these misguided peoples!"

Posted by: captn_ahab | March 24, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Sigh. May I point out once again that the Palestinians have consistently rejected every peace plan that has been presented to them. This is because acceptance of a plan implies acceptance of Israel. Clinton/Barak/Olmert/Netanyahu, it makes no difference. Currying favor with the Palestinians, or the Iranians, or the Syrians is a fool's game. We will always be the Great Satan. US ties with Israel permitted Bush 1 to request Israel not to retaliate against Saddam's SCUDs during the Gulf War. Breaking these ties will result in an Israel that is not concerned about such niceties.Every commenter here is using something developed by Israeli technology and ingenuity. They will have no problem doing without products developed in the Arab world. Mr Diehl's mild defense of Israel pales in comparison to the anti-Israel invective that pervades our media.

Posted by: melk1 | March 24, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Jackson Diehl and other Jewish Columnists: We Americans are sick and tired of your pro-Israel propaganda spread via our media (like Washington Post) which has been systematically taken over by jewish Americans. Until Americans stand up and say No to these agents of Israel loudly and clearly, we will continue to funnel $4 billion a year to Israel, send arms to Israel, and in return be the recipient of Al Qaida attacks. We all know why Al Qaida attacked us on 9/11- mainly because of out support for Israel. We remember quite well who pushed us to go to war in Iraq - Richard Perle, Paul Wolofwitz, Douglas Feith, Ken Adelman, Bill Safire, Charles Krauthammer, Bill Kristol and other parasites amongst us. 4000 Americans and over 100,000 Iraqis dies in this unnecessary war, while jews like Bernie Madoff, Ezra Merkin loot in Wall Street.

Posted by: timsz247 | March 24, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

This article seems to have the inside info on what went on (it wasn't pretty):

http://peacemoonbeam.typepad.com/scooters_report/2010/03/obama-sulks-after-netanyahu-meeting.html

Posted by: phxazbob | March 24, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

The unruly child at the adults' table needed to have his ear pulled. He will mope, throw tantrums, kick and scream but at some point he will understand what is required of him.

Posted by: thor2 | March 24, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing to me how many commenters forget which country the U.S. should be thinking of first. No rational discourse can be held with the AIPAC crowd.

Posted by: PaineintheThomas | March 24, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Diehl you are an idiot. I support Israel, but not it's current government. Bibi doesn't want peace. He wants continued APARTHEID and so does the Washington Post.

Theocracy's never give the same rights to those who don't practice the official religion. That's why the US was formed & that's why we blew it when we made a new country based on a religion. Israel should be for jews, christians & muslems. No one should be treated differently.

Posted by: kindness1 | March 24, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

It is disgraceful how WP prints only blatantly proisraeli articles. The greatness of America lies in its people who come from all parts of the world. They assimilate in the society and call themselves Ameircan and almost all of them feel that they are American FIRST. The greatest criticism against Muslims living in America has been that they donot assimilate and seem to call them Muslims first and American second. We as a nation cannot go forward if this thinking persists in its population which consists of different ethinic group, nationalities and religions. All of us including the Jews must accept this fact. It is time all Americans stood up for our interest and not for the interest of our forefathers' country. And american interest lies in trying to solve the middle east problem ( as even the american generals have testified to congress) which has been festering for so many years. It is clear that the right wing government in Israel has no intention of making peace there, so we as a nation have to pressure them into accepting what is logically, legally and morally right. No one is asking for israel to give up whaterver is righfully theirs but they are being asked to give up what is not theirs. The ones to decide what is rightfully theirs cannot be the right wing israeli politicians or the editorial board of the Washington post. And calling anyone who criticises this ultra rightwing government in israel an antisemite is ridiculous. The fact speaks for itself.

Posted by: shrestbin | March 24, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Re Mr Diehl's irritating and highly partisan column, I, like other respondents, feel I must emphasize a central point: in this matter, America's interests come first. It is not our job to mollify the Israeli government, whatever it does. Israel is an American ally, and the U.S. has been far and away its strongest supporter. But the right of this administration, as of any other presidential administration, to criticize Israel is absolute. As someone with a certain knowledge of the Israeli political right wing (you could almost say wingnuts), I am positively proud of the Obama administration in giving some pushback -- and, the U.K. has done the same. If it wants American support, Israel has a strong obligation to show us respect. What we don't need is a cadre of knee-jerk shills for Israel's perceived (and perhaps self-defeating) interests to be talking about Pres. Obama "adding poison" to the U.S.-Israel relationship. I consider that a shameful statement.

Posted by: Pragmatix | March 24, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Yes, SR31, Diehl holds all WaPo readers in contempt and has used the WaPo discussion platform to call anyone who does not agree with him precisely about Israel an antisemite. His attempt to mitigate Netenyahu's face slap as a poorly-timed announcement speaks volumes about Diehl's condescension towards WaPo readers and his bias against US interests.

Posted by: lostinthemiddle | March 24, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

This essay turns reality on its head. Diehl is doing Israel (and himself) no favors by apologizing for its inexcusable behavior.

Just because your side has no credible logic to win a debate does NOT mean you should turn up the shrillness knob, which is what this essay does.

Posted by: Oomingmak | March 24, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

BUT, Obama WON a Nobel Peace Prize!!!

Bibi should Bow to the Great BO!! Doesn't Bibi know who he is dealing with!!

Obama, A legend in his own mind!!

Posted by: morphy | March 24, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

This essay turns reality on its head. Diehl is doing Israel (and himself) no favors by apologizing for its inexcusable behavior.
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so truth telling is what they teach at harvard law school?

Posted by: dummypants | March 24, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

What I'm trying to figure out is which of these scenarios are the reality:

1. Those who write in the manner of Mr. Diehl’s efforts here are so strongly of the belief that Israel can do no wrong that their minds are disassociated from reality.
or
2. Those who write in the manner of Mr. Diehl’s efforts here do understand the reality but are attempting to, through their writings, make the rest of us believe a kind of propaganda.

We've all watched through the years as each and every time we see a growing perception of approaching progress in the possibility of Israeli/Palestinian peace (a two state solution), Israel does something to sabotage the program then finds a way to twist the facts in a manner that makes it seem like the reasons for failure lie elsewhere.

We should be thankful for organizations such as J Street that are on hand to remind the world that there are many Jews in both Israel and America who believe that Netanyahu’s policy is wrong and that a two state solution is a viable answer to peace in the region.

Posted by: kcooper35 | March 24, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

responding to captn_ahab:

writers in this thread consistently use the libel that jews control the government and media, and in the same breath incensed at the accusation that anti-semitism is at play in the israel/arab debate. Check out highlights from some of the threads above:

"We remember quite well who pushed us to go to war in Iraq - Richard Perle, Paul Wolofwitz, Douglas Feith, Ken Adelman, Bill Safire, Charles Krauthammer, Bill Kristol and other parasites amongst us. 4000 Americans and over 100,000 Iraqis dies in this unnecessary war, while jews like Bernie Madoff, Ezra Merkin loot in Wall Street."

"The American People should descend upon Washington and liberate Capital Hill from aipac and jews"

followed by your post:

"I am just plain sick and tired of the Zionist apoligists troting out that bromide of anti-semitism"

So let me break it down for you, and for any other poster here who claims to have "legitimate" criticisms for Israel. If you read the first 2 quotes i posted and "can understand" that point of view, you might just be, an anti-semite.

Posted by: mfeldman2 | March 24, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Why is the Post defending Netanyahu instead of the president, especially when Obama is right on this and Netanyahu is wrong? Right and wrong in this case being measured by US national interest. Oh, I forgot. The Post's editorial page doesn't operate in American national interest if it conflicts the Israeli government. I won't say "when it conflicts with Israel's national interest", because in this case the interest of the people who actually live inside Israel is to divide the land and make peace. Including Jerusalem.

Posted by: stillaliberal | March 24, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I am bemused by constant reiteration of the common misnomer that Israel is an "ally." An alliance occurs when two or more states are united in responding to a common threat. If Israel is an ally, what is the COMMON threat?

No, Israel is a dependant or "client" state of the United States. In the same way that Irish Americans were instrumental and critical in the creation of the Irish Free State, Jewish Americans were crucial to the founding and continued existence of Israel. It is certainly true that Israel has a disproportionate influence on American foreign policy. But it is a difference of degree. Every foreign entity is working to influence Washington, just as 2000 years ago all roads led to Rome. Wars are won and lost in the American media and not on the battlefield.

But Israel did not put Iraq, Iran, etc. on the radar for us....their own behavior did that. And Israel did not give us our appetite for oil that makes the Persian Gulf so vital to our national interest. On the other hand, it is a hilarious celebration of the obvious to pretend that Petraeus' remarks (about the difficulties our close relationship with Israel presents for our operations in the Middle East) are news.

So, let's get some proportion and reality in this discussion. One can understand, relate to and even favor the Israeli position vis a vis the Palestinian Arabs (who are in refugee camps as much thanks to their Arab “brothers” as Israel), but let's not be thinking of them as an "ally" or equating Israel's interests with America's interests.

Obama, with his associations with the likes of Wright and Farrakhan, and pusillanimous dealings with Iran is already on thin ice with American Jewry and it would not take much more bullying of Israel to drown him in that regard. At the very heart of the current "crisis" is the mistaken assertion by the administration that Netanyahu had committed to suspend construction in the Jewish quarter of East Jerusalem when, in fact, the commitment was in regards only to the West Bank. The callous disregard for this fact lends credence to the notion that this “crisis” is of American manufacture.

It will be interesting to see whether Obama can force changes in the Israeli governing coalition before the clipping of his own wings this coming November and whether his efforts against Israel will not compound the already precarious landscape Democrats face.

Posted by: CincinnatiRIck | March 24, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

First, Jerusalem is the present capital of Israel. All the state department needs to do is use google. Second, the apartments were planned a long time ago and were not on the negotiating table at any point.

As for Abbas, I wouldn't worry. He needs Israel for every imaginable reason, including staving off Hamas.

The worry is the Israeli people. They are with Netanyahu and against Obama. I think at first many were stunned, but when Clinton followed the Biden shriek with shrieks of her own, the Israelis turned.

Everyone knows if Netanyahu caves, he will face a vote of no confidence and will lose his position to a far right nationalist. That is why Livni and Labor are keeping a low profile.

This American screeching designed to comfort our oil buddies, including the Saudis, of the 9/11 Saudis, has backfired.

We look as ridiculous in Israel as we do in China and in Iran.

Oh, well. There are only two more years. Hopefully, the Democrats will come up with a candidate better than Obama or Clinton, for that matter. Hopefully, too, the Republicans will choose someone more appealing than McCain or Palen.

Posted by: FarnazMansouri | March 24, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

"If Israel is an ally, what is the COMMON threat?"

Come on. We all know who the enemy is.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | March 24, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

This article seems to have the inside info on what went on (it wasn't pretty):

http://peacemoonbeam.typepad.com/scooters_report/2010/03/obama-sulks-after-netanyahu-meeting.html

Posted by: phxazbob | March 24, 2010 4:17 PM
*****

You mean to say that you believed that rather sophomoric fabrication?

How'd ya like to buy this 'ere bridge?

Posted by: j2hess | March 24, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

mfeldman2:

You are confusing me with an anti Semite.

Believe me, bro', I am on your side.

What I posted was a parody of the ridiculous anti Zionist/anti Semitic rant of chaotician, substituting Palestinians for Israelis.

Puhleez, don't put on the side of the fence with the bigots, haters, and supporters of Islamist terrorism.

Puhleez....

Posted by: captn_ahab | March 24, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

my bad capt ahab...blame it on all my furious scrolling up and down...:)

Posted by: mfeldman2 | March 24, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

"If Israel is an ally, what is the COMMON threat?"

Come on. We all know who the enemy is.


Posted by: GaryEMasters | March 24, 2010 5:08 PM
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No, we ALL don't know. Who might that be? Do enlighten us.

Posted by: CincinnatiRIck | March 24, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Wow --What a bunch of Obama apologist, let alone anti-Israel sentiment. Or is it just the BB is a conservative. The Palestinian plight(s) are solely Palestinian and Arab caused. Lest none of you bother to mention how many times the Arab nations have taken up arms against Israel and indiscriminately bomb and killed Jewish citizens. 1967 solved the border issue, Israel has every right to claim any acquired (Especially Jerusalem) land as its own and any of that land given to the Palestinian's should be negotiated under Israel's terms. Its easy to throw up a lot of rhetoric about whether they are an ally or not, that they are a democracy in a land devoid of such governance. However nonetheless, right is right and wrong is wrong regardless of your political/government structure. The simple fact is that the Arab nations decided to gather there arm's and in 1967 they where going to wipe Israel off the map. They lost a war that they started. Just like Japan lost WWII, have we given back to them all the islands we took? Lets see, what about the portions of Finland that they Soviet Union took in WWII, are you crying a river that the Finn's deserve that land back. To the victor goes the spoils, Israel will never give up its claim to Jerusalem and it should not. BTW, I am not a Jew. Just an observer of history. Obama sees the world thru Arab eye's, that we in the western world have wronged them. He is showing his disdain for Israel --such that he can impress the Arab world as a negotiation point of interest. Again another losing proposition, the rest of the world is watching the sole super power and how do we mediate grand scale negotiations. So far a horrible start. The simplest of mediation advice will tell you do not negotiate with finger pointing, emotianal rants, blame-gaming, etc... negotiate with facts, points of interests, understanding, compromise, strength where needed, finesse when called upon. Obama lacks of these, instead has missed one of the biggest talents...never show your cards. Which he has overtly done numerous times. He is a child in adult games.

Posted by: garyp2 | March 24, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Its actually twice now that Israel has purposely screwed up peace negotiations, not Obama. I always wonder how pieces like this even get beyond the editor of the paper. So now its Obama's fault that Israel wants no part of any kind of peace agreement? We all know this is the case so why are we still telling lies back and forth about it? Israel has always held all the cards and it is entirely their fault that no peace accord is even being discussed. You cannot negotiate when the other side has no plan on giving anything in return. If Israel wanted peace they would have it.

Posted by: rc95959 | March 24, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Mr. CincinnatiRick, As I'm sure you know, Jerusalem is a point of origin for all Abrahamic religions including the Muslims. You know as well as the rest of us, that from a Muslim perspective, the Jews are attempting to take the whole of Jerusalem as their own. It's obvious to all that nothing could incense the Palestinians more, especially just before peace talks, than an announcement that Israel would be building 1,600 new apartments for Jewish settlers in largely Palestinian East Jerusalem, a territory sought by Palestinians for the capital of their projected state. It isn't a matter of where Israel agreed to a building moratorium, it a matter of Israel's blatantly obvious move to sabotage the talks by incensing the Palestinians before those talks even could even get started.

Posted by: kcooper35 | March 24, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Jerusalem is the CAPITAL of ISRAEL.

If Americans want to return capitals, kindly return Washington DC to the Native Americans, who have the best claim in the world to it.

A two-state solution may no longer be viable, not following the intifada staged by the Palestinians after agreeing to said solution. Oslo failed.

Israel needs to be coaxed back gently. This administration has turned not Netanyahu, a politician against it, but the Israeli people. That is a whole other kettle of fish.

It was they, and not Ehud Barack, who, after the Palestinians attacked and ended Oslo, it was they who called a halt to discussion.

JEWS HAVE PRAYED FACING YERUSHALAEM FOR TWO THOUSAND YEARS.

The Palestinians have prevented us from praying in our own temple.

Yerushalaem is the capital of Israel. It will never be on the table for a two-state solution, talks for which the next administration may, God willing, have the ability to finesse.

Posted by: FarnazMansouri | March 24, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Appears ideological and vindictive? The vindictive part is just for show. Obama wants Israel's enemies and even what few friends it has, to know that he...meaning the U.S... is no longer solidy supporting Israel. Now they can take the lead in attacking Israel. All part of Obama's strategy to gradually, as fast as domestic opinion will allow, withdraws U.S. support for the Jewish state. Can Israel suvive alone without the U.S.? Unless supporters of Israel wake up we are likely to find out within a few years. Certainly if Obama and the Democrats maintain total control of the Government things will get worse and worse, and the crisis is likely to come if/when Obama wins a 2nd term!

Posted by: valwayne | March 24, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Diehl

"As an editor and columnist, Diehl advocated the 2003 invasion of Iraq, and the Post's early tenor of approval for the war has been attributed to his influence.[2]"

Oops. I guess we know how seriously to take this idiot's writings.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | March 24, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Diehl’s Deal: The Post’s Wannabe Broder

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/04/sb-20070429swyl

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | March 24, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

This article is a one-sided apology for Netanyahu.

Netanyahu campaigned under the slogan of stopping negotiations with Palestinian and with Syria, and expanding settlements activity. He chose a right wing coalition in order to just that. Everything he does is aimed at one purpose only : stall, slow down, prevent and delay any meaningful peace negotiation and in the mean time expand settlements at such a pace that a two state solution will no longer be possible. All Netanyahu needs , in his thinking, is to wait wait another 30 months or so unil Obama will be thrown out of office and a new right wing adminstration will endorse him eonce more.

I write all this as a veteran officer in the Israeli army, and a long time peace activist. Netanyahu and his coalition believe they can bend the actions of the American adminstration to achieve asolution to the ME conflict, and in the same time convince the US, once more to do the job for Israel and attack Iran, as the US did in the Iraq war. As an Israeli patriot, I hope Bibi fails. I look forward to the US forcing israel to back down from its exapnsionist policy and agree to a two-state solution
Lt. Col (res), Rami Neudorfer

Posted by: ramineu | March 24, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

rc9595 --Please read your history knuckehead. The Isreal-Egypt treaty of 1979, the Israel-Jordan peace treaty of 1994. In fact after the 79' peace treaty Anwar Sadat and Menachem Begin received the Nobel Peace Prize, we all know where how well the Arab's received Anwar's work (sent him to his maker). We also know that Arafat had a Palestinian state in his grasp and thumbed his nose at the the Jews. Read it right here! I think there is an old saying of those that don't know history are doomed to make fools of themselves.


Barak offered to form a Palestinian State initially on 73% of the West Bank (that is, 27% less than the Green Line borders) and 100% of the Gaza Strip. In 10 to 25 years the West Bank area would expand to 90-91% (94% excluding greater Jerusalem).[1][2][3] As a result, "Israel would have withdrawn from 63 settlements."[4] The West Bank would be separated by a road from Jerusalem to the Dead Sea, with free passage for Palestinians although Israel reserved the right to close the road for passage in case of emergency. The Palestinian position was that the annexations would block existing road networks between major Palestinian populations. In return, the Israelis would cede 1% of their territory in the Negev Desert to Palestine. The Palestinians rejected this proposal.

Posted by: garyp2 | March 24, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

"This article is a one-sided apology for Netanyahu.

Netanyahu campaigned under the slogan of stopping negotiations with Palestinian and with Syria, and expanding settlements activity. He chose a right wing coalition in order to just that. Everything he does is aimed at one purpose only : stall, slow down, prevent and delay any meaningful peace negotiation and in the mean time expand settlements at such a pace that a two state solution will no longer be possible. All Netanyahu needs , in his thinking, is to wait wait another 30 months or so unil Obama will be thrown out of office and a new right wing adminstration will endorse him eonce more.

I write all this as a veteran officer in the Israeli army, and a long time peace activist. Netanyahu and his coalition believe they can bend the actions of the American adminstration to achieve asolution to the ME conflict, and in the same time convince the US, once more to do the job for Israel and attack Iran, as the US did in the Iraq war. As an Israeli patriot, I hope Bibi fails. I look forward to the US forcing israel to back down from its exapnsionist policy and agree to a two-state solution
Lt. Col (res), Rami Neudorfer"

Fantastic. I learned more from this man's reply than I did from the original 'piece'

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | March 24, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Striking Cognitive Dissonance:
1) Israel is a free, independent actor.
2) Everything is Obama/USA's fault.

Posted by: tdisante | March 24, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

As an American Jew who speaks fluent Hebrew and has lots of friends in Israel, I think Diehl's off base on this. If anything, Obama should be pushing Netanyahu harder -- much harder -- on a whole range of issues. Netanyahu is the nominal head of a government controlled by an extreme Russian immigrant party and ultra-Orthodox religious parties that grow more extreme by the day. Groups like AIPAC like to talk about the shared values between Israel and the US, but Israel is increasingly taking itself outside the realm of those shared values. What do we as Americans have as a country that implements gender-segregated buslines because ultra-Orthodox political parties demand it? What do we have in common with a country whose Russia-born foreign minister demands laws that seek to actively discriminate against the country's Arab minority (Israeli citizens, not the Palestinians in the territories)? Israel is treading on very dangerous ground on several fronts simultaneously, and it pains me as a Jew and Zionist, as well as an American, to see how out of control the current Israeli government is. The US needs to really use more leverage, not less. More harsh talk, not less.

Posted by: lee_arlva | March 24, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I was born in a S. American country but have lived in the US most of my life. I consider myself an American and put American interest even before my country of birth. THAT my friends is the difference i see between Jews and others living in this great land who call themselves American.

Posted by: seraphina2 | March 24, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

“Netanyahu is being treated as if he were an unsavory Third World dictator, needed for strategic reasons but conspicuously held at arms length.”

Good job Obama. About time an American administration dealt with this guy appropriately .

Posted by: Provincial | March 24, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

At AIPAC'S - DIEHL MADE A DEAL and LOADED MORE POISON for FREE


1. It is not The Poorly-Timed Israeli Announcement. IT IS THE ILLEGAL OCCUPATION - STUPID [all 42 years of it].

2. How dare you talk like this to an American President? ["Finally, Obama has added more poison to a U.S.-Israeli relationship..." - When you know well that THE POISON CAME FROM ISRAEL].

3. Netanyahu is being treated as if he were an unsavory Third World dictator. HE IS NOT. NETANYAHU and HIS GANG ARE FIRST CLASS LIARS.
[see Ehud Barak's 2 statements:
24 MARCH 2010 | Haaretz Service
Barak: I can't promise there will be no future settlement mishaps
21 MARCH 2010 Haaretz and AP
Barak: East Jerusalem announcement was unnecessary, damaging].

4. Diehl: "Israel needed for strategic reasons but conspicuously held at arms length."
-- ISRAEL IS MORE OF A BURDEN than an ASSET.

5. Diehl "flap over forged passports".
WOULD DIEHL GIVE THE MOSSAD HIS PASSPORT?
[some say he has given them more than that].

Posted by: telavivPEACEagent | March 24, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Sepaking of adding "more poison to a U.S.-Israeli relationship,"how does the new announcement of 20 new apartments on top of the 200 help? The rhetoric of this being "poorly timed" or a "gaffe" disingenuously ignores the contested status of East Jeruslaem. The noble cause of Israel is mired in naked real-estate grabs.

Posted by: Aristocles1 | March 24, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Any Israeli Government that Refuses Peace -
- Is Anti-Semitic and Anti-American!
===========================================

Diehl is again distorting realities, as he did when he support the War in Iraq.

But most Jews I know, want peace, not war.
Only some crooks, Zionist ILLEGAL settlers and weapon-manufacturers in Israel support the current Israeli government. [*]

Unlike Jackson Diehl, an overwhelming majority of Israelis believe president Obama!
[see last week's Haaretz poll
Unlike WAPO's Extreme Right-Wing Zionist Gang, which hacks and bangs Anti-Obama slogans...
"MOST ISRAELIS SEE OBAMA AS FAIR AND FRIENDLY" - FINDS A FRESH HAARETZ POLL:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1157483.html
"U.S. President Barack Obama's popularity may be declining in American public opinion, but a sweeping majority of Israelis think his treatment of this country is friendly and fair, according to a Haaretz-Dialog poll conducted this week.
The poll also found that most Israelis don't believe politicians who call Obama anti-Semitic or hostile to Israel, or who say he is 'striving to topple Netanyahu.'
The poll, which was conducted Tuesday and Wednesday and supervised by Professor Camil Fuchs, comes after reports of a crisis in diplomatic relations due to Israel's announcement during a visit by U.S. Vice President Joe Biden that it will build 1,600 housing units in East Jerusalem."]

[*] I know! I was born and educated in Israel. That is where most of my friends live!

Posted by: telavivPEACEagent | March 24, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that Israel can do no wrong?

Posted by: kwoodgr | March 24, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Dear Aristocles1

Although I agree with you, let me correct a small mistake:
The Status of of East Jerusalem is only "contested" and/or "disputed" by the governments of Israel, who refuse to accept UN Security Council resolutions.

To the World -- East Jerusalem is ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED by Israel.


[see UNSC #478, adopted on August 20, 1980, which declared the Israeli 1980 Jerusalem Law annexing East Jerusalem as "null and void", and required that it be rescinded forthwith while affirming that it was a violation of international law.

Already In November 1967, the UN Security Council Resolution #242 called on Israel to withdraw "from territories occupied in the recent conflict".]

Posted by: telavivPEACEagent | March 24, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

So lee_arlva --what are those range of issues that BiBi needs to do, get along with Syria. After all the Syrian government assinated Rafik al-Hariri and provides safe haven for Hezbollah which again feels necessary to kill as many Jews as possible. Should BiBi get a long w/ Iran...a country that wants to wipe them off the map, lets see should the have formal cultural exchanges with Saudia Arabia, a country that gives dogs higher stature than women. Maybe BiBi can work with Yemen to sponsor a water-slide park in Yemen that Jews can take summer vacations to. And Yemen could supply the bullet proof vests to the Jewish children. Please for one minute tell me what is Israel supposed to work on with the Arab world, what does the Arab world provide to the greater good in the form of science, in the form of humanitarian aid, to the arts, to medicine. Name me one thing they bring to the table other than a desire to exterminate the Jewish peoples. Please start with how many times have the Arab nations attacked Israel? Please tell me! You act as if its Israel that is the third world dictators and the Arabs and Palestinians as innocent victims. You can't because other than Iraq, they are all despotic regimes that care nothing for individual rights or freedoms. Please argue me this, is a Arab living in Yemen or Saudi Arabia (of humble beginnings or even poor) have a greater chance of a college education in their respective country's or if they lived in Israel. Its a rhetorical question, but feel free to try and dispute it.

Posted by: garyp2 | March 24, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

This piece is such a crock. How dare he call compromising British intelligence officers during a badly bungled, illegal assassination a mere "flap over forged passports"? There is not wide agreement about Jewish settlers in East Jerusalem. Israel needs to be pushed back hard, and Obama is correct to keep the PM at arms' length until Israel stops its abhorrent behavior. Israel needs tough love, not unconditional love.

Posted by: rosepetals64 | March 24, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Two words...sever ties. Buh-bye Israel...good luck with all that.

Posted by: alexindc108 | March 24, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mfeldman2 - "So let me break it down for you, and for any other poster here who claims to have "legitimate" criticisms for Israel. If you read the first 2 quotes i posted and "can understand" that point of view, you might just be, an anti-semite."

Wow. So I don't like Robert Mugabe's policies in Zimbawe, I must be a racist too.

Posted by: flwehr | March 24, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

The TRUTH about the washington post
[and other privately owned media]
=================================

[1] wapo is a privately owned paper
[2] wapo represents the most reactionary forces in America
[3] unlike Public Service media, wapo writers and editors are only responsible to... the owners
[4] wapo owners will change their minds when they see fit, and according to their interests.
[5] as most of us know, the interests of owners do not always coincide with those of the public.
[6] a private company that produces explosives to make money does not normally give annual peace prizes.

[Alfred Nobel was an exception, and watch how many times the Norwegian Nobel Committee made the wrong decisions].


Did I say that in a sufficiently mild manner, as not to hurt the feelings of Fred, Jackson and the owners?

Posted by: telavivPEACEagent | March 24, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Strange that this Diehl fellow gets to write on the subject of foreign policy, when he seems so ignorant about how it really works. Reading the Post these days, one gets the impression that knowledgeable columnists just can't be found.

Posted by: turningfool | March 24, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Suspend all aid to Israel, and that would be a third strike against Obama, for this WP "neocontributor". For most loyal Americans it would be a HOMERUN to break the game wide open.

Posted by: likovid | March 24, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

West Bank = Darfur?? Are you kidding? go visit the west bank. There is no genocide of "Palestinians," although they do a good job killing each other. The last time the PA accused Israel of committing a "massacre," (google Nablus raid 2002), even human rights groups and the UN found NO Evidence. You guys really don't know who your allies are. Who is making technology like pentium intel chips, motoral phones, non-invasive cancer detection methods that we are using here in the U.S.? Hamas? Egypt? The PA? No, it's Israel, the ONLY democracy in the middle east. Go visit there instead of slandering our only true ally in the Middle East. (of course, maybe you would like MORE foreign aid go to the Arab countries who hate your freedom of the press...nice)

Posted by: vectorandraster | March 24, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

The twit Diehl

thinks everytime some
American doesn't bow low to the low crud Netanyahoo, it's another strike.

Dielh has a lot to learn about where
Americans are going, but he'll learn it soon. His puny, zionist mostly unread rhetoric will have helped get us there...

FINALLLY SPLIT, divorced from the warmongering parasites of Israel. And the world will cheer.

Posted by: whistling | March 24, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

garyp2
You are abusing sanity, mostly your own.

[1] Syria has not been found guilty of murdering Rafic Hariri.
[2] Read what Israeli reserve general Uri Sagui, who negotiated with Syria on behalf of 3 Israeli PMs said. He reccommended them [incl. Barak and Netanyahu] to SIGN PEACE ACCORDS and withdraw from the Occupied Golan Heights.

You pose the Q "what BiBi needs to do"
A. To resign, if he still refuses peace.

Posted by: telavivPEACEagent | March 24, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Post needs to hire some non Jewish columnist. This constant poor mouthing of how the US was wrong to insist that Israel really work toward peace is getting tiresome. Dielh and others like him are doing Israel more harm than good bcz they are shifting the mood of the American people against Israel. America is not a colony of Israel Mr Dielh, if you want to live in a country that supports Israel without question I suggest you move back to Israel where doing that makes sense. The truth of the matter is, Israel's well being should not be an American interest. It is a media myth that Israel's interest is America's interest and the people in the US are beginning to realize it.

Posted by: rbprtman23 | March 24, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse


The bad timing was Israel's. Netanyahoo's.

At a time when Americns are roiling with fury over the Jews of Wall Street greedy ways. As their own homes are forclosed.

As Europeans expell israeli diplomats because of the Dubai/passport murder incident. And call Israel a pariah state.

As the long detestaton of things Israeli including the Gaza savagery soaks in.

Diehl's stupid defense is badly timed, too, though there's no time coming when any timeing will be better.

America is the only nation that supports the stinking Israelis. That even tolerates them. If you can't get along with someone who gave you land, billions and billions and airmanents and cover.

YOU CAN"T GET ALONG ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
This was the last station for those who've been hated whenever and wherever they've appeared. Yack on Diehl.

Posted by: whistling | March 24, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

vectorandraster

Your arguments in favor of Israeli HI-TECH disregard the fact that Israel has plenty of LOW-TECH slave-like employees. Some even come from Darfur...

2. The Israeli HI-TECH is based around ELBIT, RAFAEL, IAI IMI and other WEAPON MAKERS. Israel finds itself in a VICIOUS CIRCLE going periodically to war to test new arms so it can sell these "winning products".

Posted by: telavivPEACEagent | March 24, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Mr.Diehl, - If you cannot see the foolishness, selfish and non reconciliatory tone/act Netanyahu's govt., has taken then you need a reality check!

If there is going to be any chance for peace in the Middle East, then there has to be fair treatment for both the Israelis and the Palestenians. Both need to roped in when necessary. The Palestinians need to be told they need to behave and so do the Israelis.

The Brits had to take action - Netanyahu tried the same "state sponsored violence" using Canadian passports last time! If they didn't then they would be accused to being a party to the act.

If the US needs to "command" respect in the rest of the world, then the US needs to behave and act like a responsible grown up. Obama is right on. Yes, thanks to Hillary too for the tough love!

Posted by: NOVAResident | March 24, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

It isn't a matter of where Israel agreed to a building moratorium, it a matter of Israel's blatantly obvious move to sabotage the talks by incensing the Palestinians before those talks even could even get started.
Posted by: kcooper35 | March 24, 2010 5:30 PM
-----------
Au contraire: the administration umbrage was, officially speaking, based on Netanyahu breaking a pledge made to the US (concerning building on the West Bank) and had naught to do with the Palestinian reaction, which only came later, on cue, in response to the US verbal barrage.

But, of course, anything that interferes with the pretense of the US being able to broker "peace in the Holyland", gives the US a problem...and you can only get truly incensed when someone breaks their word...thus possibly motivating the administration dissembling about what Netanyahu had pledged. It is an inconvenient truth that Israel is supposed to be a sovereign state. It's a pity that Obama did not show the fine sensibility for Israel's sovereignty that he did for the theocracy controlling and rigging elections in Teheran.

So, was the administration ignorant of the difference between the West Bank and Jerusalem or deliberately dissembling about the Netanyahu commitment as a pretext for demonstrating "peace broker" bonafides? My guess is the latter.

Posted by: CincinnatiRIck | March 24, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Here's what the UC Berkeley kids are saying:

ASUC senators passed a controversial bill urging the university to divest from companies who supplied Israel with materials used in alleged war crimes at a meeting Wednesday night which drew a record number of attendees from the campus community.

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The 18-25 year old smarties are telling Israel to take a hike.

Posted by: Emmetrope | March 24, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Go ahead Diehl, pump up what you imagine to be your manhood by cheerleading for Bibi while he cuts the throat of the Jewish state. You'll miss it a lot more than will 99% of humanity.

Posted by: misterjrthed | March 24, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Seraphina2: Your perception saddens me. I think you seriously misread the temperment of most American Jews. Pundits like Diehl and organizations like AIPAC do NOT represent us - they represent Israel. These folks are well paid public relations puppets, trying to project problems Israel creates for herself anywhere but where it belongs. This is basically a business for them -$$ pure and simple. Part of their job is to make people like you think the Jews in this country don't support Obama. Obviously, Israel needs to protect herself or retaliate within reason. However, I think the majority of Jews in this country clearly view how the Israeli Government exacerbates problems in their region for the US and causes potential for harm to our soldiers, just as Gen Petraeus implied. Diehl linking the British expulsion of an Israeli diplomat after the Dubai attack with the Obama administration would be comical if it were not so disingenuous. The rest of the world recognizes the harm Israel is doing to herself, why can't Israel? It's irrelevant but I find it amusing that those members of congress and the press who rail against SOCIALISM, seem to be putting the security of a socialist country like Israel ahead of our own. (/rant)

Posted by: sunsync | March 24, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm actually very heartened that the discussion is not completely one-sided because AIPAC does such an amazing job of making Americans think that Israel is ALWAYS right. They're not. On the positive side, there are many "leftist" Israelis who think these settlements are a disaster. But with right-wing Bibbi as PM, I doubt we'll see any progress on Middle East peace. I doubt that Bibbi even believes in a two-state solution. He's just going through the motions (and doing his best to mess things up). He believes all the land (including the land illegally confiscated in the 1967 war) rightfully belongs to the Jews. I would assume these settlements are in violation of UN resolutions (not that the U.S. ever bothers to talk about that).

Posted by: pmhebert | March 24, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Nothing like a piece about Israel to lift the rock that mercifully conceals the Bund during daylight hours.The Israelis know what everyone, save the crackpot left knows,that Obama's Administration is a dead man walking.They will simply ignore his tantrums until he is sent packing back to Chicago to continue his important work as a community organizer

Posted by: diana11777 | March 24, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse


Clearly the biggest part of this little
insult isn't what the President will or won't do. He is proscribed, still but not long, by such as AIPAC.

IT'S THAT MAIN LINE AMERICANS ARE SICK TO BLOODY DEATH OF ISRAEL, and are in a bad mood in general.

Does Diehl remember the rich American Jews who convened a meeting of "world jewery" and decided to BOYCOTT AND RUIN Germany?
In 1938?

Posted by: whistling | March 24, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

You know what, who cares about Israel right now? I mean seriously?

It seems every year since Israel's inception they are at war with someone or at the very least, engaged in some regional conflict. Sometimes they are the victims, other times the aggressors but the so-called "peace process" is an absolute farce and has been for decades. Both sides are unwilling to compromise, Hamas and Netanyahu in particular. They don't care about making nice with their enemies, they only care about advancing their own power and the influence of their respective peoples. The U.S. is merely a pawn in this neverending charade.

I say the U.S. should wash it's hands of the whole conflict and let them sort it out on their own because it's an absolute waste of resources with no benefit to the U.S.

What good has America's alliance with Israel ever done the U.S.? I'm serious. I always thought alliance were supposed to be reciprocal relationships but the only thing the U.S. ever seems to get in return from Israel is grief. If they're not pulling the U.S. into a conflict, they're forging passports or actually spying on the U.S.

They are a horrible, horrible ally and the U.S. would be be better off with out them. America has enough to worry about right now to care about Israel.

Posted by: cjpotter19 | March 24, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Yes, let's continue to appease Israel and make U.S. troops in the region more vulnerable.

Traitor.

Posted by: patrick3 | March 24, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Barack Husein Obama learned really well from his mentor, Jeremiah Wright - Obama's mentor - Hate speech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdJB-qkfUHc

His administration shows its true face when dealing with Israel right to build in their homeland.

I am ashamed I voted for him

Posted by: mike123t | March 24, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama is going to make the Israeli's mad and then they will solve his Iran problem. That is his strategery.

Posted by: delusional1 | March 24, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

THIS FOLKS IS THE REAL DIEHL!
THE WRONG DEAL FOR THE WASHINGTON POST
SUPPORT ISRAEL AND GET PAID BY THE WASHINGTON POST.
IS THERE ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD EXCEPT ISRAEL WHOSE SUPPORTERS GET PAID BY OUR MAJOR MEDIA OUTLETS, TO RELENTLESSLY, DISHONESTLY, UNASHAMEDLY, SPOUT OUTRAGEOUS PROPAGANDA ON ITS BEHALF.
AMERICANS MUST BE A VERY STUPID PEOPLE TO HAVE TAKEN THIS BULLCRAP FOR THIS LONG.

Posted by: aghayyurkhan1 | March 24, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

I think people in ever-larger numbers are waking up to the fact that Obama is not only inexperienced but dangerously inexperienced.

Posted by: RossOdom | March 24, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is right to recognize that this conflict is an indirect threat to US national security. How else that could be? When a great military power such as the US seems to help by every means a nation to colonize and expropriate a stateless population amid a thousand-year old religious feud around Jerusalem, one can assume that religious radicalization is around the corner... Bluntly speaking, the cheers among Muslims and anti-US folks around the world on 09/11 is more than directly linked to that feeling of grief about Palestinians. I personally had an awkward felling that day, I couldn't help thinking that somehow, something that bad had to happen to make Americans realize how dangerous the situation is there in its implications with Muslim radicalization (we in Europe have a huge Muslim population so we perceive this much more acutely, I think), and how bad it is to encourage, even indirectly, any kind of colonization. Americans have to realize as well that the notion of Israel as the lone democratic regime in the middle east is very much idealistic. How on hell a religiously segregated system can work as a free society? The very idea of a Jew State is as bad as the idea of a Muslim state, these can't be free (it's incredible that only Jews have the duty to serve in the Israeli army isn't it?). Anyway, it's good to see the US be harsh with right-wing religious extremists, that's what they deserve. Netanyahu should be considered as an obstacle for peace as long as his pro-colonialist government doesn't change substantially to include moderates. If the right coalition loose power because of that, Obama do have a small chance to make a difference.

Posted by: stephanesibani | March 24, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Diehl has it wrong on many counts. According to polling this week, at least half of the Israeli public oppose the colonization -- which is the proper word -- of East Jerusalem by right-wing extremists funded by American right-wing money. See today's Ha'aretz: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1158599.html?

Second, he really needs to take a tour of "East Jerusalem," which includes many square miles of Arab villages which have never been part of the city proper. Many Israeli leaders have admitted that annexing these areas was a mistake -- a mistake that can be remedied in final status negotiations. When ignorant pundits sermonize on a "united Jerusalem" they are making a basic geopolitical mistake, akin to "uniting" Washington by including Baltimore and Fredericksburg.

More and more American Jews oppose Bibi and his puppetry for settler, ultra-nationalist and ultra-Orthodox interests. An Israel that is prohibiting peaceful demonstrations, attempting to shut down its own human rights groups, disenfranchise Reform and Conservative Jews as 'real Jews' at the behest of the ultra-Orthodox hierarchy, sponsors legislation requiring 'loyalty oaths' of its citizens, allows public buses that force women to sit in the back, and continues to spit in the eye of its most important ally, is not the Israel that we progressive American Jews signed on to support.

Good for Obama in handing Bibi his head, which I really hope is what transpired last night. Bibi lost his job the last time by badly misjudging the Clinton administration and his own public. Let's hope for deja vu all over again.

Posted by: commdir | March 24, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse


This paper is trying to be more Zionist than the Pope! Or is it Catholic? OHHHH - I'm so confused!

I can't tell the difference between The NYT, The Post, Congress, or the Knesset.

Please help meeeeeeeeeeeee!

Posted by: Xavisev | March 24, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

One of the stories about Obama the mainstream media ignored is his close relationship to Rashid Khalidi and The Arab American Action Network, who are supporters of the Palestinians. In order to get Obama elected, he had to appear to support Israel.

Not only do I believe Obama supports the Palestinians over Israel, I am sure Netanyahu KNOWS the truth...

Posted by: 1djn | March 24, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Israel reminds me of a contemptuous relative who disses you at the holiday dinner, is rude to your friends, yet still demands that you subsidize their lifestyle with "gifts." At some point, if you have any balls, you explain to them that no more gifts will be forthcoming because they have overstayed their welcome.

Petraeus put it best -- the continued dispute with the Palestinians, the ham-handed military decisions (the Lebanon war, the Gaza invasion) and the perception of favoritism are harming our interests and putting roadblocks in our path to achieve our objectives. But Diehl and many others seem to think that the US should advance Israel's interests, regardless of the costs to us. Barack is asking Israel the Janet Jackson question: "What have you done for me lately?"

In fact, what exactly do we gain from this relationship? Anything? If the Israelis continue to ignore our interests, I say we should just step aside and let the Israelis and the Palestinians sort it out by their own damn selves.

Posted by: B-Rob | March 24, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

It is about HIGH Time for a Regime Change in Israel-just like the one that took place in Iraq.There must be enough Israelis to form a Democratic sane Government. A quick Trial of the present members of the Government and there Just punishment would end all the problems of the ME. This will benefit not only the USA Tax payers but also the elimination of World Terror.We do KNOW where and how Terrorism Started-don't We ??

Posted by: handjacan | March 24, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jackass,

That's you..the person who whines about objectivity. It's a friggin op-ed! For those of you not familiar with the term. Op(inion)-Ed(itorial). It's not a news story. Idiot.

Posted by: bjw699 | March 24, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

How do we Diehl with the fact that the Washington Post is unfailingly in support of Israel? A quick review of the comments on this article reveals that the United States is waking up to the fact that pro-Jewish interest is not the same as American interests. Perhaps the Washington Post should consider hiring some Muslim writers to get a balanced approach. Or do we have to wait until something freezes over for that miracle to happen? Allison Knight-Khan

Posted by: aghayyurkhan1 | March 24, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Jack, I hope you're reading these comments. Columns like this one are the reason why I, and a lot of other people, no longer subscribe to your newspaper.

Posted by: AlanVanneman | March 24, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

A little objectivity please! The Post seems incapable of any fairness when its coverage involves the Middle East. There is so much misinformation in this piece, especially the whole idea of Britain expelling an Israeli diplomat because of the flap between the U.S. and Israel. The use of faked British passports by the Israel to carry out an assassination in Dubai preceded the flap, and Britain's anger at Israel was well known prior to it as well.

Posted by: scmc | March 24, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Israel is incorrectly described as the only democracy in the Middle East. It just ain't so. Apartheid is not democracy.

Posted by: russellglee | March 24, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Jerusalem is the CAPITAL of ISRAEL.

If Americans want to return capitals, then kindly return Washington DC to the Native Americans, who have the best claim in the world to it.

A two-state solution may no longer be viable, not following the intifada staged by the Palestinians after agreeing to said solution. Oslo failed.

Israel needs to be coaxed back gently. This administration has turned not Netanyahu, a politician against it, but the Israeli people. That is a whole other kettle of fish.

It was they, and not Ehud Barack, who, after the Palestinians attacked and ended Oslo, it was they who called a halt to discussion.

JEWS HAVE PRAYED FACING YERUSHALAEM FOR TWO THOUSAND YEARS.

The Palestinians have prevented us from praying in our own temple.

Yerushalaem is the capital of Israel. It will never be on the table for a two-state solution, talks for which the next administration may, God willing, have the ability to finesse.

Posted by: FarnazMansouri | March 24, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Most people realize that if(IF) there is peace in the middle east, most terrorist attacks will stop and may even gradually completely stop.

To mediate peace, one needs to be somewhat fair. What that means is that you need to reach out to both sides. There are some people who are uneducated professional Obama-haters who do not understand this. There is little one can do about them.

Unlike the Bushes, Mr. Obama had/has no interest in oil or ties to any Arab country. He tries to reach out to the Arab people in the hope that they will see the US as an honest broker. In the end his intent and wish is interest of the US as he recognizes the terrorism must stop before it begins. That is the best kind of protection Americans can get.

Israel on the other hand is only concerned with their own SHORT-TERM interest. The current lot of Israeli leaders have no interest in the peace process. It is pointless to talk about peace with them. The US should simply attempt to see that they do not do irreparable damage to the prospects of peace.

Posted by: pattr1 | March 24, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

First, Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. All the state department needs to do is use google. It is not now nor has it ever been on the table up for negotiation. The apartments were planned a long time ago and, and last time, I checked, sovereign nations are entitled to build apartments in their capitals.

If the US wants to give away capitals, it should return Washington DC to the Native Americans, who have the best claim in the world to it.

As for Abbas, I wouldn't worry. He needs Israel for every imaginable reason, including staving off Hamas.

The worry is the Israeli people. They are with Netanyahu and against Obama. I think at first many were stunned, but when Clinton followed the Biden shriek with shrieks of her own, the Israelis turned.

Everyone knows if Netanyahu caves, he will face a vote of no confidence and will lose his position to a far right nationalist. That is why Livni and Labor are keeping a low profile.

This American screeching designed to comfort our oil buddies, including the Saudis, of the 9/11 Saudis, has backfired.

We look as ridiculous in Israel as we do in China and in Iran.

Oh, well. There are only two more years. Hopefully, the Democrats will come up with a candidate better than Obama or Clinton, for that matter. Hopefully, too, the Republicans will choose someone more appealing than McCain or Palen.

Posted by: FarnazMansouri | March 24, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

"for the second time in a year, the Middle East peace process has been stalled by a U.S.-engineered deadlock. "

Deihl, please do yourself a favor - move to Israel.

Maybe you can start writing classified advertisements for Haaretz or something.

Peace is not happening right now because Yahu and his merry band of Zionazi zelots are kicking Palestinian families out of their homes and stealing their properities to build more Russian and Eastern European jewish immigrant settler outposts. This has nothing to do with the US President or his Administration.

Posted by: IsraelisnowanAparteidGovnt | March 24, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Yerushalaem is the Capital of Israel. Those who thing nations should give away capitals should return Washington DC to the Native Americans, who have the best claim in the world to it.

If they don't care to, then the best thing for them is to take their Apartheid selves and live on the Reservations with the Native Americans they put there.

Otherwise, shut up.

Posted by: FarnazMansouri | March 24, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

At all events, there are only two more years of the present fascist regime that genocides Afghanistan, wants to invade Iraq. The Obama regime is a joke in China and Iran, repugnant to Europe, to Israel, and to many Americans, Democrats as well as Republicans.

Hopefully, in two years, the Dems will come up with a knowledgeable, qualified candidate, and the Republicans will do better than they did the last time.

Posted by: FarnazMansouri | March 24, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

World, we apologize for our indescretion in electing an anti-Semitic ideologue as President. We have forgotten the lessons of 1933.

The level of uninformed venom I see in previous comments astounds me. Here we have the small nation of Israel, surrounded by enemies who profess a desire to destroy it, who has never once attacked a neighbor without provocation and in self defense, and who is excoriated for building houses in its own capital city. But I suppose that if one's ideology requires one to speak ill of a particular country or racial group, the facts don't really matter.

Posted by: jmbreland | March 24, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Very simple analysis: Israel and the Jews have been running the peace process game on the United States and the world for more than 60 years ! The land they occupy was taken fromn the Palestinians and the Jews have used brute force to hold it and expand ever since then. There will never be peace in the Middle East so long as the balance is tipped by unfettered U.S. aid to Israel and they are allowed to run roughshod over the Arab world. It's about time for the $$$$$$ to be cut off from the Jewish State ! That is the only way to control their aggression ! We can no longer afford to support Israel unconditionally and thereby enable them to wage war on the Palestinians !

Posted by: ellislawoffice | March 24, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Not Jewish, nor anti-semite.

It occurs to me that by reading the Old Testament, studying historic digs on site, and researching Islamic readings and Islamic histories, that maybe, just maybe, many of you have forgotten that Israel has been around as a nation in those parts, for 'only', say, about 4000 years. When they had been forcebly exiled, by Egypt, by Babylonia, by Rome, etc., the vacuum left behind in the geographical location was pretty much left AS a vacuum, except for a few nomadic arabic tribes, this being the purpose of those conquering nations who wanted no trouble from anyone in those parts.

So to say the Jews don't belong there is ignorant in it's most obvious form. The issue with the Palestinian factions is not that Israel is an 'invader', but that Jews are allowed to exist at all. It is current Islamic doctrine that Jews are to be exterminated.

I'm not even going to begin with the pandering Obama exibits everytime some Moslem leader is within bowing range, it speaks for itself.

Back on topic. Most of you miss the point that Israel and the Jewish religion/people have been around for a VERY long time. From at least 2000BC. Christianity came along two millenia later. Islam is the newcomer, founded by Mohammed in about 650AD. So....ignore or re-cast the reality of history at your own peril.

Posted by: kentuckythunder | March 24, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

ellislawoffice

"Very simple analysis: Israel and the Jews have been running the peace process game on the United States and the world for more than 60 years...."
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Quite right, my dear Nazi, your analysis is simple, indeed simple-minded. As well, there is no "peace" process per Barak Hussein, whose present position will surely end in two years, given his massive incompetence at just about everything.

"In a recent chilling document, reiterated by Biden in the course of his condemnation of construction in Jerusalem, the US assured the PA that the principal objective of the “indirect” negotiations was not peace, but the establishment of an independent Palestinian state and that parties who adopted negative positions would be dealt with “in order to overcome that obstacle.”

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=171110

Posted by: FarnazMansouri | March 24, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

US congress respects Bibi more than anyboby on earth.He is the President of the world.Everyone knows Israel controls US and the world; US president is just a puppet.Israeli news papers make fun of him everyday.Bibi denied all his demands on his face so far in a very rude manner .It is laughable when US tries to show the world that it has some control over Israel.US can be considered as Israel,s colony state and keeping this in mind world should turn its eyes over some other countries to break the deal between Israel and palestine or let them do it themselves.

Posted by: meemmaheen | March 24, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

meemmaheen:

Err, actually, the US can be considered Pakistan. That would be the Pakistan that is illegally occupying Kashmir and runs guns from there.

That will end, thought. Pakistan is a failed state. India is not.

The billions we give the corrupt Zardari will find a better home in India. One day, the Kashmiri people will say so long to the invaders.

Posted by: FarnazMansouri | March 25, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Health vote cost too much capital. Trade-off--You get healthcare--hands of Israel. Healthcare will embroil Obama for at least another year, and the process is now so tricked and confused, with so many caveats and protocol, that Israel could commence the 3rd Temple and no one would notice. Both Abbas and Obama are at best checkmated, and worse thrown under the bus. Obama knows he's treading on cracked eggs already, Europe is insane with rage over what they see as Bibi playing cat-n-mouse with Obama, but like Israel with America, Obama has carte blanche with Europe. A vicious circle. Meanwhile the settlers are edging toward the Mount. Israel owes Republicans for years of unconditional support, and Obama knows he can expect a sucker punch from that direction. Still, he seems to not yet grasp that while American Jews always vote Democrat, Israel loves Republicans. Now with enraged Republicans egging Bibi to go renegade--Obamacare may cause the greatest non-reversible expansion of Israel since the Six Day war. And Europe elected Obama to put the kibosh on Israel. Now it increasingly looks like they may get Armageddon instead. This is what you get when you hire Balaam to curse Israel--"He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

Posted by: shreir | March 25, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Diehl is sickening. General Patreaus has testified to congress as to the danger Israel's renegade policies present to the American Military. Unlike many Jewish Americans whose sons serve in the Israeli Defense Force, my son serves in the American Army. I expect the ADL, AIPAC, and all the rest of these organizations to start toeing the American line or make Aliyah. Their efforts to impose Israeli wars upon peace loving Americans constitute treason.

Posted by: wildtimecharlie | March 25, 2010 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Progressive but Palestine...The Washington post editorial board as put together by Hiatt continues its decent into the gutter. Its shocking to see these traitors take a contrary position to whats good for America. The sunlight shining on AIPAC and its amen corner is starting to disinfect the Israel firsters. We now see the Walt et al were right this isn't antisemitism its pro Americanism. The settlements are important because they speak to Israels intentions...that is no withdrawal no one state apartheid. The people of Israel proper are insulated from the Palestinians and the status quo is good enough for them. Its not good enough for Americans or the rest of the world. Its heartening to see the responses challenging the tripe of the neocon editorial board. Just google the writer and Israel and everything becomes clear

Posted by: Amazed2 | March 25, 2010 1:23 AM | Report abuse

When mushroom clouds appear over Haifa and Tel Aviv, there will be high fives in the White House.

Posted by: johnhiggins1990 | March 25, 2010 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Some truths
1. USA WAS ANTI-ISRAEL until 1967-1973. But anti-USA sentiment in the middle east started well before that. Look to the cold war and stop scapegoating Israel.
2. Israel is not hostile to USA but gets treated a lot worse than hostile nations.
3. The US administration repeatedly uses Israel as an expendable asset and not as a friend or an ally.
4. The Arab lobby is much more powerful than the Israel lobby and has much more money to throw at the state department. When the Arab lobby said don't sell to Israel - USA companies stopped selling to Israel eg Pepsi. When Arab lobby told UK not to build a new tank with Israel the UK stopped immediately. The Arab lobby controls the UN - which is why the UN spends half its time on Israel which has no power in the UN. If Israel had power in the UN they would have to find someone else to pick on.

Posted by: jhenson1 | March 25, 2010 3:38 AM | Report abuse

wow i read some of the comments here and both sides seem unreasonable.

some people here expect israel to act against its own interests just because the U.S. aids it. the fact that the U.S. aids Israel does not mean the U.S. owns it. if you have such expectations of israel you should reexamine your democratic/liberal values.

keep a few things in mind:

*Yes Israel received monetary aid, but so does egypt, as a result of our peace agreement. how come no one criticizes the aid egypt receives, and calls it a parasite.even though its very obvious which of the 2 pays off its debt in many ways (intelligence, technology, security etc)

**The U.S. is the largest sponsor of palestinians. what does the US get in return? (other than sweets handed out on 9/11). and no one calls them parasites.

***the expenses of U.S. military presence in many countries far outnumber its spendings on israel. no one calls those countries parasites.

-keep in mind we are discussing 2 sovereign countries here. Israelis dont expect the U.S. to act against its own interests, especially the vital ones. From the comments here some people expect israel to commit suicide, and that any other behavior is considered a "slap in the face"

Posted by: israelit | March 25, 2010 5:52 AM | Report abuse

Another perspective is that Obama has done well not to invest too much in Middle East peace. It has not been productive for presidents in the past and may not be for him. He has wisely invested in his domestic agenda, which is bearing fruit.

Posted by: marcseltzer | March 25, 2010 7:05 AM | Report abuse

THIS IS F*****G BIG!

Posted by: TYLJ | March 25, 2010 7:08 AM | Report abuse

THIS IS F*****G BIG!

Posted by: TYLJ | March 25, 2010 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Obama Byatch slapped again

roflmao

Posted by: donabernathy | March 25, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

In response to MarieDivine:
"If the people of religions continue to reject the word of God given to their prophets and refuse to follow it, they would not recognize their Messiah, Mahdi etc. if he dwelt among them."

Those that are supposed to be such scholars and know the Bible, just as back then, continue to not see the Truth.
The Messiah already dwelt among men and He was rejected.

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King James Bible
1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Posted by: 1conservativemom | March 25, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

The Supreme Lord Netanyahoo has spoken. It is time for our puppydog leaders to come to heel, or else that great lord will not give them a doggy treat re-election for example, or financing their schemes.) Are the Amurican leaders nuts? AIPAC won't tolerate such dissent.

Posted by: yard80197 | March 25, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

You can always count on the Washington Post and Diehl to be true American patriots. Always putting American interests before those of the foreign nation called Israel, 5000 miles away.

What's Krauthammer's solution by the way? Maybe bomb Gaza again, with some more phosphorus this time? And why not send Israel another few billion $ so they can 'defend' themselves against those hostile rock throwing Arabs. Or maybe starve them a little more. What an absolute disgrace.

Never in the history of mankind has a superpower or empire been held hostage by a country 50 times smaller, 5000 miles away while giving it buckets full of money every year and shielding its war crimes from the UN.
And this with full complicity of the MSM and almost all of Congress.

Imagine the Chinese taking the US for a ride like that or even our 'closest ally', Britain. Accusations of treason wouldn't be far away. But when it comes to Israel, it could nuke Gaza and Congress and Diehl would still be apologists and offend their own president on behalf of it.

Posted by: jhynde | March 25, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Obama is a muslim. He will announce this after he gets re-elected. And like all muslims, Obama hates the "Jooos".

Posted by: pabarge | March 25, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Israeli policy endangers the life of American troops. Source: General Petraeus.

Posted by: jhynde | March 25, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Diehl has removed any doubt that his loyalties lie with Israel and not America. He is not alone. He has many co-conspirators in very powerful positions in the media and politics.

While Diehl and the hasbara posting crowd lament Obama's treatment of Netanyahu as being petty politics and anti-Semitic they are trying to draw attention away from Israel's plan for the Palestinians in the near future, a plan Obama is well aware of.

Recall the Netanyahu loudly complained that the government of Israel did not deport all Palestinians from the West Bank while the world was concerned with the Tienanman Square massacres in China. He wanted to load every one of them in trucks, dump them over any border, and destroy their homes. He laments the passing of a golden opportunity to show the world what zionism is all about.

Netanyahu and the rest of his kooky supporters in Israel, the Israel-First Neocons on the Washington Post such as Diehl and Krauthammer, and other taxpayer-funded, powerful parasite pro-Israel organizations and agents in and around Washington have not changed their goals, only the methods they intend to use. They are pulling out all stops working for an attack on Iran and then when Iran retaliates with a few wayward missiles Israel will round up and deport millions of Palestinians at the point of guns using that old "security" chestnut Israel always uses as an excuse for its war crimes. Israel will then depend on its friends in the American media to play down and justify those crimes and provide Israel protection.

Let's hope Obama has the will and political strength to put a stop to such criminal activity. It is by no means certain that he has the ability to do so as Israel controls the U.S. Congress which has shown time and time again with their votes that they are willing to excuse and reward Israels ethnic cleansing and murderous rampages.

Posted by: Lazarus40 | March 25, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Peace? There can be no peace and there never will be peace between the Israelis and the Palistinians. I frankly don't know why U.S. Presidents continue to waste oxygen on the subject. The Israelis offerered real concessions for peace that the PLO leadership turned down. The PLO can't accept a peaceful coexistence because that is not the goal of the PLO. The normal Palistinian citizen probably wants peace, but the corrupt, inept, victim machine of the PLO leadership needs to keep hostilities alive to keep their coffers full of US and EU guilt money. This incident is about Obama's left wing, academic bred dislike of all things Israel. He prefers to pander to our enemies than support Allies.

Posted by: rdadams66 | March 25, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

obamasma and clinton make carter look like a Rabbi when it comes to Israel hating.

Read The Haj by Leon Uris or better yet, any factual news account about the honor and integrity of the palestinians, if you can find one...

Posted by: jsanderssr | March 25, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I have not read all the preceding comments, but in summing up the best of them, I would recommend that Jackson Diehl take himself over to the Foreign Agents Registration Agency of the DOJ and register as an Israeli agent. That his salary is paid by the Washington Post is irrelevant. The man has been so openly and consistently advocating on behalf of a foreign country, the behavior of which is opposed to US national interests, that it's no longer a joke..

Posted by: JaysonB | March 25, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Obama foreign relations for the US has been a total wash! Sending Joe Biden to a mans work is neve a good idea. It only show how unserious America is in dealing all cards on the table with Israel. Obama looks so foolish when face to face with a giant of a man who does not reduce himself to 'suck ups' Israel and the world's neighbor is treatening to NUKE not only America but Israel as well. We are seeing the workings of president who is in love with himself. He is irresponsbile, a lier, and has shown by passing off a Govt run HC bill, that Chicago style politics works! The country is in total disaray and nobody trust us and the people rejected this HC Bill, while the administaration is in denial. The only real apparoval that mattered was Obmas leftwing base. And come Nov. he will be sorry for having not debated this HC bill with the people before trying to pass it off. The Republicans stood tall in the eyes of those who rejected this socialist piece of Crap. We will bury the leftwing democrats come election and the first one to go will be Nancy )nanny' Pelsosi. She should be ashamed of her conduct and lies that distored the truth about the good, the bad, and the ugly of this so called 'the peoples HC bill. what a joke this admin. has been, and the corrupt and arrogant manner of which a pres. pulled it off will down in "infamy" and known as the day socialists took over yet another crisis and used it to hit a home run for THEMSELVES and not the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Posted by: vigilant101 | March 25, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

God's covenant with the Jewish people goes back to almost the beginning of time. These people have suffered so much. These people who have the wisdom of Solomon and have contributed so much to the world not only in medicine but ingenuity. When Israel became a nation, it was miraculous and a testment to God's promise to Isreal They took a worthless piece of desert that no Arab wanted. worked hard and God blessed it and the desert turned into a desert that bloomed! Isarael is being threatned and tauanted by IRAN. but Iran is faltering and the people do not like this corrput and power driven bats out of hell attitude. What does all this mean to Israel, as it soon will face a determined and possibly nuclear adversary in Iran? America had better wake up and this admin. would be wise to remain Israel's friend. For you see Israel doesn't need American, but America needs Israel! Israel in the past with the previous presidents has been a faithful friend. Obama and his elitist cohort would do wise not to try to fool Israel with their trickery and do, Israel has remained steadfast and has the blessings of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob with her. And it is written in God's Word (Bible) that anything or anyone who strikes at this nation that He created will suffer the hands of His might and swiftness of sword. Be careful Obama, you will answer for any misgivings you have about our dear friend...and staunchest ally...ISRAEL. DON'T THINK FOR ONE MOMENT THAT YOU CAN CUT HER OFF. FOR IT WILL BE YOU WHO WILL BE CUT OFF!!!

Posted by: vigilant101 | March 25, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

@ vigilant101

"They took a worthless piece of desert that no Arab wanted. worked hard and God blessed it and the desert turned into a desert that bloomed!"

As it is said in my Umfufu religion, the Moroccan Desert is my people's promised land, as I shall do all what is in my power to posses that land. Be it by lobbying for it or by force, it is a worthless desert that no one wants anyway, but with some time and hard work (60 years give or take), my desert of a land will bloom, of that I am sure.

Enlightening history lesson I must say, brief but oh so enlightening vigilant101

If I was an American, I might just questionin the loyalty of some of the writers/editors that are in the backyard of my president's home.

Posted by: ElChupakapra | March 25, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if anyone else is finding themselves creeped out by the Stormfront-like nature of some of the comments here?

70-80 years after the 1930s, you'd think at least the lines would change.

Posted by: jkatzman | March 26, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

@jkatzman | March 26, 2010 1:37 AM
"I wonder if anyone else is finding themselves creeped out by the Stormfront-like nature of some of the comments here?"
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I certainly am--the anti-Semites are certainly out in force. "It's the Zionists! It's the Israel lobby! It's the Jooooos!"

Do any of these people really believe a Palestine would bring more peace and stability to the world than Israel? Based on what? The track record of the rest of the Middle East? Or what staunch allies they have been to us, compared to Israel? Good Lord, people--Israel is not perfect, but anyone who thinks the trouble with the Middle East is at her doorstep rather than the Islamic countries surrounding her--countries that pose a direct threat to Western Civilization--simply cannot be taken seriously. The head-in-the-sand technique is not great for self-preservation.

Posted by: LadyVA | March 26, 2010 5:39 AM | Report abuse

0bama isn't fit to carry Netanyahu's jock.

Posted by: ZoltanNewberry | March 26, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Gondola2 Put the shoe on the other foot. How is Israel's interest served by a blind obedience to every act and wish of America...um Obama?

Posted by: PostReader44 | March 26, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

In response to conservative mom.

You need to learn Hebrew. You are so very mistaken as to who this servant is. Who is speaking here? The kings are speaking, the people are finally seeing that it was for their sins that G-d's servant Israel has been despised, kicked around all these years.

do visit outreachjudaism.org and read the questions from christians that are answered by Rabbi Tovi Singer

Posted by: PostReader44 | March 26, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Where is the pressure on the Palestinians?
First, Many of the posted comments actually validate Mr. Diehl's article. Had Obama acted as the President of the US, rather than the Saudi King, many here would not have found it so fashionable to post these radical and, yes often antisemitic, comments.

Second, Netanyahu removed scores of roadblocks set up by Olmert, accepted a palestinian state, froze construction in Judeah and Samaria, and continuously offered to sit down with the palestinians.

What has the Abbas done? What has the palestinian side done beside increase their demands, condone and reward terrorism, and incite their own children to more terror? And where the outrage for all this from these well-thinking supporters of King Obama?

Posted by: kaelmjm | March 26, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

jkatzman, i too found many of these comments shocking and i thank you for pointing, and I do think that many here are using politics as cover to express their shameful antisemitism.

Posted by: kaelmjm | March 26, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

A few points from an English sceptic:

a) "occupation and military conquest" :
Only the Zionists have conquered their own land, but all previous occupiers from Rome to Jordan were handed it magically and in accordance with international (law of the jungle)
b) America isn't occupying anyone's land, nor did it acquire America by conquest, but he natives basically handed the land to them/British/spanish.
c) America gives aid to Israel, but the aid to many other ocutnries doesnt count, eg Egypt, Iraq, West bank; post nazi w. Germany, USSR etc.
d) America is under control of the Zionists and Jews, that is why they have an anti-zionist President. He had to lie about supporting a unified Jerusalem in order to get the job, but hat's ok, he also lied about afew other things.
e) Petrause has already clarified what he said - and he is not blaming the Israelis for US deaths. That is a pretty dumb claim - if you wish to control the world, and have your army everywhere, sadly your troops will fight in wars. The British had an empire once, and have fought in Afghanistan prior to this war.
f) British suport for America is getting our soldiers killed, hence talkbackers should be anti-American (same false logic as above).
g) Obama insults other former allies, eg the UK, the Queen, but brown=noses assorted tyrants and dictators and true enemies of America, eg Chavez, Libya, Iran.
h) American presidents have biggest egos in the world, and that matches the biggest GDP. Clinton snubbed UK PM, John Major, and virtually ignored him until Blair was elected. Major's error was to tout for the Republicans (Major was the right wing Conservative party).

So in a global perspective, it is not just about zionism, but Obama's shift from the Western allies.
I'd liek to see a peace in Israel,a nd the Saudi plan is not bad, but both sides need to sit and talk.

Posted by: middlemex | March 27, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

In 2002 during the Intifada, Netanyahu came to America and told congressmen and some senators of a heinous attack upon the IDF in Jenin the West Bank. He told them that 13 IDF soldiers had been killed that day by a 10 year old Palestinian boy in a suicide bomb attack. This story was a lie and Netanyahu persists in lies to the U.S. to this very day.
Every American politician must prostrate themselves before the Israeli lobby AIPAC
before attaining office.
The overwhelming majority of Americans believe we have some special need of Israel and should back them blindly.
Sadly though the tail has long wagged the dog where Israel is concerned. Israel behaves like the kid on the bus whose big brother is the bully,(USA) so it can do whatever it wants. The U.S. has wielded it's veto on numerous occasions at the UN to protect Israel. I suggest the next time Israel comes before the UN facing sanctions or some other punishment that we let her take the medicine. The "we have every right to protect ourselves" argument is worn and used up at this point. The friends and family of Rachel Corrie who was murdered by the IDF in Gaza trying to protect the homes of innocent Palestinian civilians deserves some justice. God knows the men of the U.S.S. Liberty never got any.

Posted by: Maddoganirishman | March 31, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

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