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Bush's conservative legacy

Craig Shirley and Don Devine use Karl Rove’s new memoir to argue that George W. Bush was no conservative. I am admirer of both men (and particularly Shirley’s outstanding histories of Reagan’s presidential campaigns), but I respectfully disagree. (Full disclosure, for those who don't know, I was a speechwriter in the Bush administration.)

The thrust of their argument is that Bush expanded the size of government dramatically -- and they are absolutely right. Federal spending grew significantly on Bush’s watch, and this is without question a black mark on his record. (Federal spending also grew dramatically under Ronald Reagan, though he was dealt a Democratic Congress, whereas Bush had six years of Republican leadership on Capitol Hill.)

Yet this is only one part of Bush’s record, and Shirley and Devine ignore a string of unprecedented conservative achievements on Bush’s watch. There is ample evidence to back up Rove’s claim that “Bush is among the most conservative presidents of the modern age.” Indeed, Bush arguably did more to advance conservative priorities than any president that came before him. Consider a few examples:

TAX CUTS. Bush enacted the largest tax cuts in history -- and unlike my personal hero, Ronald Reagan, he never signed a major tax increase into law.

JUDGES. Bush has the best record on judges of any Republican president in memory – his appointments of Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito will be judged favorably over time compared to Justices Anthony Kennedy, Sandra Day O'Connor, David Souter and John Paul Stevens (all put on the high court by Republican presidents).

FREE TRADE. Bush enacted free-trade agreements with 17 nations, more than any president in history.

HEALTH CARE. Bush created Health Savings Accounts – the most important free-market health-care reform in a generation. And he courageously stood up to Congressional Democrats when they sought to use the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to nationalize health care -- and defeated their efforts.

SCHOOL CHOICE. Bush won a Supreme Court ruling declaring school vouchers constitutional and enacted the nation's first school-choice program in the District of Columbia.

SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE. Bush was the most pro-life president in history, securing passage of the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, the Unborn Victims of Violence Act and the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act. And Bush steadfastly refused to fund the destruction of human embryos for research -- and was vindicated by the scientific breakthroughs that followed. No president did more to protect the sanctity of unborn life.

NATIONAL DEFENSE. Bush increased defense spending by nearly 73 percent, more than even Ronald Reagan, and the largest increase since the Truman administration.

INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT. Bush defended American sovereignty with an act that was virtually unprecedented – he unsigned a treaty, the Rome Statute, creating the International Criminal Court.

MISSILE DEFENSE. Bush withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty – a conservative goal for a quarter century. And he became the first president to deploy defenses protecting the American homeland against ballistic missile attack.

EXAPNDING FREEDOM. Bush brought freedom to more than 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq, the largest expansion of human liberty since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

THE SURGE. Bush’s decision to launch the surge in Iraq – and to stick with it when virtually everyone in Washington was urging him to admit defeat and withdraw – was one of the most courageous acts by a commander in chief in the history of our country. It is one of the many reasons the men and women of our military loved him like they did no President since Reagan.

SOCIAL SECURITY. Bush fought valiantly for a conservative priority no American president had ever dared to touch: Social Security reform, with private accounts that would have given millions of our citizens a stake in the free market system. His effort failed, but he deserves credit from conservatives for staking his second term in office on this effort.

So yes, spending grew on Bush’s watch. But taken as a whole, Bush’s presidency established a conservative record without parallel. This is why, despite the spending, the vast majority of conservatives across the country supported President Bush and stood with him through his last moments in office.

Shirley and Devine should acknowledge these accomplishments. And if are going to blame Karl Rove for the growth of government on Bush’s watch, they should give Rove credit for his role in these conservative achievements as well.

By Marc Thiessen  | April 8, 2010; 11:33 AM ET
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You can go on praising "The Worse President Ever" all you want, but you'll have no company.


Posted by: lindalovejones | April 8, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

The results of this 'conservative' governance that this clown champions have placed America in dire straits - wars of lies, galactic debt, bankers run amok, decent christians marching with fetuses and screaming at gays and brown people, abandoning New Orleans to their incomeptence, environmental degradation, worldwide disdain (and the list, literally, goes on & on...).

If this is what these idiots are proud of, and if Bush's reign of error is what happens when Republicans get elected, methinks Americans have learned to 'Just Say No' to Republicans.

It's just embarrassing to deal with these people, nothing worthwhile to say, no policy that hasn't alredy failed in front of everybody...they've become silly and sad...

Posted by: russcarter1 | April 8, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE followed later by EXPANDING FREEDOM- incredible. Bush getting into a women's right to choose while causing an unknown number of deaths in Iraq to play oil-power politics with some John Wayne, fake Republican machoism thrown in. And yes, the faithful fools "stood with him through his last moments in office."

Posted by: hrobert02 | April 8, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

TAX CUTS. Bush enacted the largest tax cuts in history -- and unlike my personal hero, Ronald Reagan, he never signed a major tax increase into law.
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Tax cuts were for the rich and helped break the states,

Posted by: creatia52 | April 8, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

In response to the billboard of President Bush that reads "Miss me yet?", the answer is:

Yes. Yes we do!

Bush had some major screw ups, there's no denying that, but his overall record is a very good one (Note to clearly insane people, your opinion really doesn't matter to most Americans).

And while Bush made mistakes, the current administration is DELIBERATELY embarking on a course for disaster and misery.

Give me back George W. Bush any day. Barack Obama is a laughable failure and incompetent.

Posted by: etpietro | April 8, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Okay, he was conservative. And he was a complete and utter disaster for our nation. He was the worst president ever. Worse than Buchanan. Worse than Hoover. Worse than Nixon.

Posted by: kurthunt | April 8, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

EXAPNDING FREEDOM? - dude,check your spelling.

Secondly, I don't agree with your column at all (well except for the FTAs). But I'm surprised you left out the one Bush legacy that 30 years from now will still be extolled by the left and the right. Remember the program to save millions in Africa through expanded HIV/AID treatment regime? Really bizarre that his most non-controversial policy move was left out. Isn't saving millions of lives a plus for conservatives? DO you just like stirring the polarized pot?

Posted by: PWChomeowner | April 8, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Please, please, please stop trying to rewrite history.

Posted by: rlj1 | April 8, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

NATIONAL DEFENSE. Bush increased defense spending by nearly 73 percent, more than even Ronald Reagan, and the largest increase since the Truman administration.
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I might remind you that 9/11 happened under Bush's watch -- he willfully ignored warnings from intelligence. What is so great about increasing defense spending to blaoated amounts while ignoring the education of our children?

Posted by: creatia52 | April 8, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

WHY IS THIS HACK STILL WASTING SPACE AT THE WASHINGTON POST? There are intellectual conservatives in America with constructive things to say. This fool is not one of them.

Posted by: mmclaughlin1 | April 8, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

If Bush was such a great conservative then we should never, ever vote another conservative into office. He left our country in ruins.

Regarding those Health Savings Accounts - they go along with high deductible health insurance which reduce the risk for insurance companies and transfer that risk to the insured.

I suppose that makes it a win for Bush's Conservative credentials but, as usual, that means a loss for the middle class and poor.

Health savings accounts are ill-advised
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/04/business/fi-lazarus4

Posted by: FauxReal | April 8, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, dude, but you were a speech writer for this supposed conservative president. Thus, you are biased... So this column is just a bunch of hot air from a person that is in complete denial to the fact that he wrote speeches for a turnip...

Posted by: phorse | April 8, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Sanctity of human life? I read that abortions rose under the Bush presidency. This is believed to be because the Bush regime WRECKED the economy, for which we are all obviously still paying...

Posted by: msame | April 8, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

So George Bush's hired cheerleader is still cheering. One question is why would the Washington Post be paying him to do this? Another is who would care what he thinks?

Posted by: turningfool | April 8, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

"Bush’s decision to launch the surge in Iraq – and to stick with it when virtually everyone in Washington was urging him to admit defeat and withdraw – was one of the most courageous acts by a commander in chief in the history of our country."

But not nearly as courageous as lobbying for capital gains tax cuts while soldiers were welding scrap metal to their Humvees in Iraq - just to try to stay alive. And wasn't the surge merely an admission that his (and Rumsfeld's) original strategy was a tragic failure?

Posted by: vekis | April 8, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Thiessen's opinion is typical of neoCON ideology of admitting total success and denying any shortcomings. A conservative legacy? How about a neoCON legacy. Starting with national security issues, the Bush administration was vacant to terrorism intelligence prior to 9/11; it fabricated Operation Iraqi Freedom into a regime change; it was delinquent in post-Katrina; and it was in the heart and hubris of the financial meltdown. That my fellow Americans was a winning formula; not to mention his taking office with a surplus and leaving it in an economic whirlpool. If that's a conservative legacy, Thiessen is either in denial & deception, or just simply delusional.

Posted by: juke2 | April 8, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Mr Thiessen,

What is conservative about tax cuts if the spending doesn't fall in concert?

What is conservative about judicial activism not seen since the '60s?

What is conservative about free trade agreements a complete failure of the Doha Round of WTO negotiations? Trade isn't more free because of these bilaterals, its less free than if Doha succeeded.

What is conservative about a government paid-for drug subscription service???

What is conservative about school choice if all of those schools are now under the regulatory arm of the Dept of Ed??? No Child Left Behind was conservative - more government control of local schools???!!!

What is conservative about protecting a few dozen human unborn lives but killing hundreds of thousands in horribly executed wars?

What is conservative about SPENDING more on Defense when we could have better defense with less spending through better coordination of all levers of government (think GWOT).

What is conservative about cowardly not being part of the ICC but brazenly starting two wars and not finishing them? Which principle are you supporting, sovereignty or accountability?

Missles: didn't Reagan use SALT II to help end the cold war. Bush started a second cold war with the abolishment of the ABM and deploying useless ballistic defense technology.

Ugh, I grow tired of wondering what type of conservativism you are advocating...

Posted by: beut_d | April 8, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Why even start with Bush?

When he is blamed, the cry is loud and clear... *Bush ain't here no mo'*

So why bring him up now? Leave him to cry in peace, if he can find some...
***

Posted by: Evenfoolsarerightsometimes | April 8, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

"(Federal spending also grew dramatically under Ronald Reagan, though he was dealt a Democratic Congress, whereas Bush had six years of Republican leadership on Capitol Hill.)"

Reagan could spell "VETO"

"TAX CUTS. Bush enacted the largest tax cuts in history -- and unlike my personal hero, Ronald Reagan, he never signed a major tax increase into law."

Big Big Big black eye ... intelligent presidents do not cut taxes then invade two countries, increase defense spending 73%, deregulate the financial and then sit back as the country sinks into a near depression.

Posted by: knjincvc | April 8, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Finally, an admission of complete fiscal irresponsibility of Bush and the Republican Congress.

"Federal spending grew significantly on Bush’s watch, and this is without question a black mark on his record."
and
"TAX CUTS. Bush enacted the largest tax cuts in history -- and unlike my personal hero, Ronald Reagan, he never signed a major tax increase into law."

Increased spending while decreasing taxes, and failing to acknowledge, let alone take responsibility, for the fiscal mess created. Reagan reacted to the fiscal reality caused by the 1981 tax cuts, while the Bush Administration continued to push for further tax cuts despite the obvious fiscal crisis.

As for the military, it was Clinton's military, not Bush's, that won the Iraq war. It was Clinton's budget priorities, not Bush's, that gave Bush the military to succeed.

Posted by: notjafo | April 8, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

To suggest these achievements are soley the property of conservative america is a false argument. Expanding freedom? Tell that to the people that were wrongfuly locked up at Guantanamo (the mongues) He suspended Habeous Corpus. Afghanistan is free? Free to douse acid in the face of female adultresses. Tell those women thats the sting of freedom.

Posted by: lamarilium | April 8, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Thiessen's is an apologia worthy of a speechwriter.

It gives former President Bush credit for everything good that happened on his watch, and omits mention of every disaster (9/11, the response to Katrina, the economic collapse of 2008). It looks right past black-letter contradictions -- increased government spending under Bush was bad, increased defense spending was good; huge deficits were bad, huge tax cuts were good. It also has no reference to the distinguishing characteristic of Bush Republicanism.

This was disdain for liberals, the lowest common denominator in Republican Party campaign politics for generations. Past Republican Presidents -- Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, even the first President Bush -- brought other things to the table. The younger Bush brought hardly anything. If 9/11 hadn't happened he would have struggled to think of anything for his administration to do after about the middle of 2002, beyond preparing for reelection in 2004. It was no accident that for most of Bush's administration the White House staffer in charge of domestic policy was his campaign manager, Karl Rove himself.

In perfect fairness, Bush's supporters added some things to disdain for liberals that weren't entirely his fault. Disdain for foreigners during the preparation for the Iraq war was one; Bush's ignorance of the world when he took office was vast and palpable, but he never took explicitly anti-foreigner positions even when his administration quarreled with foreign governments. Disdain, bordering on hatred, for immigrants later in his tenure was another; though this is now a staple of GOP politics in the South especially, Bush did not directly encourage it. But standing up to liberals -- "The Left" -- and the media was the leitmotif of the Bush Presidency, the basis of his claim to be a real conservative.

Posted by: jbritt3 | April 8, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Correction to the comment that Reagan had a Democratic Congress. He did not. The Senate was controlled by the Republicans for 6 of the eight years of the Reagan Administration.

Posted by: frtrue | April 8, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

You left out several things: One, went to war on specious ground and tried to bully other countries into giving him what he wanted only to have him go to the countries he bullied to ask for help while at the same time leaving Afghanistan on the back burner for 8 years.

Expanding Freedom: Yeah he may be for freedom but if the people wants a political group running their government he turns around and says you can't elect them. Epitome: the Hamas when the Fatah was considered corrupt and can't get anything done and has the gall to send money to try to help them win. Lost that one.

TAX CUT: it was the biggest mistakes made because you don't cut taxes while fighting a war period and it is one reason he ran up the biggest deficit of before all of them starting from Reagan. THAT'S A BLACK EYE! At that time Democrats and Republicans in Congress built a consensus for fiscal responsibility and Bush blew that in no time flat.
Besides the economy was facing a diametrically different sets of problems that faced Reagan and yet offers up the same set of solution.
As a result he put our country in dire strait that will take years to recover from.

HEALTH CARE: In reality he lost that one pretty quick and was making it a political mountain hole out of a program that utilize the private sector to provide insurance to children.

To sum it up, you are a typical political hack praising Bush when everyone knows he was a disaster in the making, at least from me.

Posted by: beeker25 | April 8, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

You left out several things: One, went to war on specious ground and tried to bully other countries into giving him what he wanted only to have him go to the countries he bullied to ask for help while at the same time leaving Afghanistan on the back burner for 8 years.

Expanding Freedom: Yeah he may be for freedom but if the people wants a political group running their government he turns around and says you can't elect them. Epitome: the Hamas when the Fatah was considered corrupt and can't get anything done and has the gall to send money to try to help them win. Lost that one.

TAX CUT: it was the biggest mistakes made because you don't cut taxes while fighting a war period and it is one reason he ran up the biggest deficit of before all of them starting from Reagan. THAT'S A BLACK EYE! At that time Democrats and Republicans in Congress built a consensus for fiscal responsibility and Bush blew that in no time flat.
Besides the economy was facing a diametrically different sets of problems that faced Reagan and yet offers up the same set of solution.
As a result he put our country in dire strait that will take years to recover from.

HEALTH CARE: In reality he lost that one pretty quick and was making it a political mountain hole out of a program that utilize the private sector to provide insurance to children.

To sum it up, you are a typical political hack praising Bush when everyone knows he was a disaster in the making, at least from me.

Posted by: beeker25 | April 8, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

No evidence cited as to whether Bush's policies were good for the country or for people... just that they were "Conservative".

This is infuriating to me. You people don't work for us so you can beef up your credentials with your party... you work to make things better. When will you learn?

Tax Cuts !! Yes, federal cuts but everything else in my life tripled in costs.

Judges? Again... so what ! You can't have it both ways... it's no better to stock the court with Conservative judges than it is to stock it with Liberals and the guys Bush put in are not defensible as being anything but down the line right wing.

Surge? Yes, he finally sent the number of troops he ignored sending earlier... should history reward him for this?

Freedom? This is a poor argument since these wars continue and since there are 1000's of families both here in the US and there in the Middle East who have lost loved one's... what about them? Are they "Free-er"?

This is a stupid column... take credit for things you succeeded in and stop fighting for your mistakes... you had a lot of them.

Posted by: Rickster623 | April 8, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

you are speaking of the "conservative" legacy of TORTURE that Bush left, right?

Posted by: hohandy1 | April 8, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

There are days like today when I think that Fred Hiatt hired Marc Thiessen to make Charles Krauthammer look good by comparison.

I suspect that Thiessen is continuing his pout over the spanking he got from Jon Stewart.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | April 8, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I might remind you that 9/11 happened under Bush's watch -- he willfully ignored warnings from intelligence. What is so great about increasing defense spending to blaoated amounts while ignoring the education of our children?

Posted by: creatia52
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Rich people tend to vote Republican and educated people tend to vote Democratic. So is Bush more likely to make rich defense contractors richer or educate kids who will likely grow up and vote Democratic?

As for sanctity of life, why are Bush and the Republicans in favor of war, the death penalty and guns?

Posted by: adifferentpointofview | April 8, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

so...where is the fiscal (ir)responsibility? tax cut plus increase in defense spending for two wars- and we sold our soul to foreign investors. oh... Spanish Insquisition to Bush Insquistion= torture them all, let someone else sort out the mess

Posted by: questionsneedanswers | April 8, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

so...where is the fiscal (ir)responsibility? tax cut plus increase in defense spending for two wars- and we sold our soul to foreign investors. oh... Spanish Insquisition to Bush Insquistion= torture them all, let someone else sort out the mess

Posted by: questionsneedanswers | April 8, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Look Jackass. Junior also started two wars he didn't know how to finish and dang near ruined the country's economy forever. He actually had no significant accomplishments and it would have taken, Oh, about a million, to cover those blunders. GWB II was clearly the worst president in over 100 years. End of argument.

Posted by: jrw1 | April 8, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Let me see if I get this straight. To be a conservative you need to slash federal revenue (and create $5 trillion in dedt in the process), vastly expand the military (but pay for it in debt), go half way around the world and invade a country that didn't attack us spending 100's of billions more (but pay for that also with debt) and attempt to dismantle the nations insurance policy (social security) that has protected 10's of millions for more then a generation and hand that money over to the itinerate gamblers on wall street. This is a conservative? This meets no definition of a conservative every delineated in any political science text ever written. It is however the definition of a revolutionary in all of them.
More up is down from the new 'conservatives'.

Posted by: kchses1 | April 8, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Tax cuts for the wealthy, yes, but not for me.

Judges: Bush appointed two of the most thin-skinned justices who muted their views before the Justice Committee and then have shown where they stand.

On Health Care there is no argument but that Bush and the GOP did nothing substantive, argued against SCHIP and then voted "no" on HCR.

Bush consistently opposed stem cell research on grounds of opposition to any form of abortion of even unborn fetuses. This will be shown as ideological and a pander to his base.

We spend too much on national defense against enemies who spend a fraction of what we do and who pose no threat to our current defense posture.

ABM has nothing to do with the defense of the U.S. Go back to school. It was intended to be against missiles that Iran does not have.

Can you look at Afghanistan and Iraq and claim bringing freedom to either nation? You must be kidding.

The surge in Iraq has done as little to Anbar Province as President Obama's has to any area in Afghanistan.

Yes, his attempt to gut Social Security failed with fund plan set-asides that few who put their money into. This is typical GOP sidestepping a problem.

Yes, you are a former Bush/Cheney, Rumsfeld and Jesse Helms speechwriter and have recently distinguished yourself as a torture apologist. If you can bottom feed any lower than to defend Karl Rove, just let us know.

Posted by: harper-d | April 8, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Nice list. Though, I think you left out the part about Bush being the worst president the United States has ever had -- that he completely destroyed the U.S. economy, and that he somehow managed to isolate the U.S. from the entire world when all were ready to support the us after a devastating terrorist attack.

Basically, you left out the part about him being an incompetent fool.

Oh, and he's a war criminal too. I almost forgot that one since it doesn't get mentioned in the press very often.

But he did limit stem cell research -- and that's uh good, right?


Posted by: wkristol | April 8, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Disgusting!

Praise for Giving huge tax breaks to the wealthiest, gutting the environment, placing far right activists judges on the Supreme Court and in beacoup lower courts, being in league with the worst Attorney General in my lifetime, AND WITH HIS MASTER VP AND OTHER NEOCON TRAITORS ... STARTING A WAR THAT KILLED AND MAIMED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11.

Beneath Contempt . . . downright AMORAL (all the while parading as a "born again Christian).
Ultimately disgusting!

Posted by: lufrank1 | April 8, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

This fellow, Thiessen, is a delusional addition to the WP's stable of Bush-Cheney apologists and explainers, backed by Obama harpers. Thiessen, Gerson and Krauthammer serve only to stimulate reasonable people (those a good distance from the far right) to work harder for our president and nation.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | April 8, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Marc, you sold your soul.

give it a rest.

Posted by: vigor | April 8, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Print this article in Iraq, and then walk unarmed and unescorted down the streets of Baghdad so the people can thank you for their freedom personally.

Now we know. How conservative you are is in direct proportion to how badly you wreck the economy.

Posted by: leftcoaster | April 8, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Bush’s decision to launch the surge in Iraq – and to stick with it when virtually everyone in Washington was urging him to admit defeat and withdraw – was one of the most courageous acts by a commander in chief in the history of our country.


Baloney!!

His invasion of Iraq stands as one of the largest Mistakes in US history, being pig-headed and dishonest when it came to cleaning up the mess is most definitely not a courageous act.

Posted by: vigor | April 8, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Thiessen, your whitewashed bravado is matched only by your college freshman-level reasoning.

DId more to advance conservative principles than anyone else? Unmatched conservative record? That's why conservatives stood with him through his last moments in office? What pap.

If that was Bush's contribution to conservatism, then you're really lauding his burial of your cherished idealogy. Bush *killed* everything Reagan stood for; you do accept Reagan's mantle when discussing Bush, don't you Mr. Thiessen? Do you even realize that your sycophantic tone and slanted reasoning make a sick farce of the ideology you clearly love?

I'm liberal, so I can spot a conservative. If that's a robust defense of conservatism, I'd happily vet your next column - just to remind you what you're supposed to stand for. What a joke!

Posted by: brykin | April 8, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

It's only my opinion but some of these things are not to be proud of. What gives us the right to unsign treaties and prevent Iran from withdrawing from whatever treaties they wish to withdraw from?

Posted by: fresno500 | April 8, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Marc Thiessen is just the latest exhibit in the long line of evidence of how fact-free the longstanding right-wing claim that the Washington Post is a "liberal" newspaper is. A genuinely liberally-slanted publication wouldn't bother with apologetics by someone who wrote speeches for George W. Bush. The "White Man's Burden" touch in which Thiessen claims that Bush "brought freedom to more than 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq" was especially nice. Let's hear from the tens of thousands of Iraqis killed by our invasion and occupation, the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis both internally and externally displaced and the innocent people we routinely shoot in Afghanistan. Don't believe me, here's what Gen. Stanley McChrystal said to his troops last month during one of his virtual town-halls:

"However, to my knowledge, in the nine-plus months I've been here, not a single case where we have engaged in an escalation of force incident and hurt someone has it turned out that the vehicle had a suicide bomb or weapons in it and, in many cases, had families in it. That doesn't mean I'm criticizing the people who are executing. I'm just giving you perspective. We've shot an amazing number of people and killed a number and, to my knowledge, none has proven to have been a real threat to the force."

Posted by: ozma1 | April 8, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

What a nauseating column, praising the worst president ever, a President who started a war for absolutely no reason, spied on his own people, looted our treasury, tortured, practiced rendition, built secret prisons, outed a covert CIA agent, eviscerated our Constitution, etc...

This guy along with Hiatt, Gerson and Krautheimer belong in prison for aiding and abeting war criminals.

Posted by: daniel3715 | April 8, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

The worthless drunk, george bush, is the reason our once great country is in the desperate condition it's in.

He is a traitor and should be on Death Row along with cheney, rumsfeld, wolfowitz, rice and the entire AIPAC cabal.

And as far as I'm concerned, you Mr Theissen, should join them there.

Posted by: rcubedkc | April 8, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Ha! I love giving credit to Bush for the "surge". He pre-emptively started a war, lied about weapons of mass destruction, declared the war over, failed to support the troops with basic protective gear, continually supported tactical blunders costing thousands of lives, and then finally, years and hundreds of millions of dollars later, decided on the "surge". Boy, he really did a bang up job on that war, didn't he? I'm just glad that the war is finally over. Wait, what? It's not? Oh brother.

Posted by: MarkDaniel | April 8, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Forgive me for coming back to this silly article. Bush started two wars that he did not finish and did not fund.

He turned a surplus into a huge deficit and his defenders blame all that on 9/11, his bullhorn hallmark of his presidency.

He and Cheney left at the lowest approval ratings in recent history. Cheney barely speaks to Bush as he's concerned about his own neoconservative legacy.

Thiessen, the torture apologist, and Michael Gerson, he who believes the Catholic church has faced up to pedophilia, continue to be as wrong as wrong can be. Lies on an op-ed page of the Post are offensive and not worthy of a formerly good newspaper.

What's next? More Sarah Palin? Michelle Bachman? More John Bolton and more Paul Wolfowitz? The list goes on and on but actually hiring Thiessen and Gerson is a real thumb in the eye of thinking people who have actually done things in life and not just made stuff up.

Posted by: harper-d | April 8, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

The non-critical partisan thinkers will say (or shout) things like: "He was the worst president ever!" or perhaps, "He was great!" Little time has passed to make these statements with certainty. One of the few things people might agree on is that he was far more radical in his actions than his discourse would suggest. But neither those on the right that loved him nor the far left that hated him owns "history." We'll only have a clear view of his legacy as time passes in coming years.

Posted by: ttj1 | April 8, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I completely agree with you sir , Mr GW Bush was one of the BEST presidents in US history

Posted by: michel1835 | April 8, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

After eight long years of devastation and destruction by the prior Administration, any person who still believes George Bush was anything other than an incompetent, brain-dead fool, war criminal and puppet of the Neocons who avoided responsibility for all of his many, many crimes and failures MUST BE mentally deficient. Of course, this is the reason most US states have passed laws to revoke the driver's license of any person who has decided to join or retain membership in the Republican Party as such membership is irrefutable evidence of mental incompetence (I made up that last part, but don't tell the Republicans as most of them cannot read this sentence).

Posted by: law1 | April 8, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

To any sane and thinking person, the things touted as proof of bush's conservatism, and he was certainly a conservative, are exactly why conservative is such a disaster.

Posted by: John1263 | April 8, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Bush's Conservative Legacy:

Two worthless wars that are still raging after seven years.
Cost: Trillions of dollars.
Benefits: None

Doubling of the National Debt. Bush borrowed more money than all the presidents from George Washington to Bill Clinton. NOW, of course, the Cons are all concerned about the debt. They sure weren't concerned when it was Bush writing the checks.

A decade of no wage growth for working people.

A worldwide financial crisis, the worst since the Great Depression.

A real economy heading for another Great Depression.

He showed little concern about terrorism before 9/11, then he exploited 9/11 for political gain and to get his worthless wars.

That's Bush's legacy. I understand why Cons pretend he never existed, but the American people have not forgotten him.

Is he the worst president in history? He was much worse than Herbert Hoover and William McKinley, who are usually in the bottom five.

Posted by: ottoparts | April 8, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Shrub was the worst President of my 60 years on this planet. He was the most arrogant, immoral clown to ever reside in the White House. His misplaced actions led us directly to where we are today. Deficits spiraling out of control. A broken and battered military. A Supreme Court making activist rulings, allowing unlimited funds in elections by foreign interests. Domestic spying on our own citizens.
The list could go on for days, but it amazes me that Republicants, those tax cut loving, smaller government advocates, can't see that their heroes, Reagan, Bush and Shrub grew government at a faster pace than Democratic administrations. And grew the deficit faster also. Which to me shows the real Republicant party, a bunch of hypocrits. And Shrub as just a traitor, for violating the Constitution on several occasions.
And all the books by insiders like Rove and the like aren't going to change history. He'll still be seen as the worst president in history.

Posted by: COLEBRACKETT | April 8, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Big Big Big black eye ... intelligent presidents do not cut taxes then invade two countries, increase defense spending 73%, deregulate the financial and then sit back as the country sinks into a near depression.

Posted by: knjincvc
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So I guess what intelligent presidents do is increase spending to raise our debt to levels never seen before, while increasing our taxes (but only on the rich) to cover all of the new entitlement programs. And I guess they also spend over $700B on programs that are supposed to create jobs, but have yet to materialize any real job creation. Is that the change and hope you voted for?

Posted by: sanmateo1850 | April 8, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

You gotta love Republicans/conservatives who never let facts get in the way of a good myth. Thiessen wrote:
(Federal spending also grew dramatically under Ronald Reagan, though he was dealt a Democratic Congress, whereas Bush had six years of Republican leadership on Capitol Hill.)
Fact: Republican's controlled the Senate for the first six years of Reagan's term. And because of an alliance between conservative Democrats and Republicans, the GOP had effective control of the House for much of that time, especially Reagan's first two years. Reagan's first tax cut, which set off the modern era of spiralling federal deficits, was passed over the objection of House Speaker Tip O'Neill, who nominally controlled the House majority.
You might argue that because the federal budget must start in the House, that Democrats were responsible for the deficits. But -- another important fact here -- if you take the Reagan presidency in total, the budget deficits approved by Congress were smaller than the aggregate deficits proposed by Reagan.
As for the rest of the article, it's mostly balderdash. Tax cuts are not conservative if, like Bush's, they lead to deficits. Deficits are nothing but deferred tax hikes because they must be paid for sooner or later. There's nothing conservative about the deficits Bush presided over and then saddled the country with because of the economic meltdown his administration had a major part in creating. (It's not liberal, either. It's just plain reckless.)

Posted by: gbship | April 8, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Define conservative then i'll read the article.

Posted by: whocares666 | April 8, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I can definitely tell your his former speechwriter as evidenced by your spin... This would be all well and good, except for one glaring omission; BUSH NEVER PAID FOR ANYTHING!!!

Posted by: PeterPamZ | April 8, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

More of Bush's Conservative Legacy:

Stocks went down. The S&P 500 was down by about one-third from Bush's "election" in 2000 to the 2008 election.

So if you bought stock during the Bush years, you were wiped out.

He tried and failed to privatize Social Security.

And, he lied. He lied about WMD, he lied about things going so well in Iraq until even he had to admit it was a disaster, he lied about torture.

That's a fair cross-section of his wonderful legacy.

Posted by: ottoparts | April 8, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Bush's conservative legacy.

ClusterF*ed 3 countries
nearly brought down the global financial system
5.5 Trillions of debt

Mission Accomplished

Repigs simply cannot get it through their heads that their heroes the bush family and holy saint ronnie were simply despicable people.

Posted by: dcp26851 | April 8, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Lets not forget that Nancy Pelosi had a hand in where our country is today. She presided over the House, who only wanted to bring Bush down at the expense of the country. Her goal was to make this country so bad that people would only want to vote for a democrat, any democrat.

And look what we got! An arrogant self promoter who only cares about what's good for him.

OUr country is more deeply divided as a result of his attitude toward anyone with an opposing idea. Just look how many allies he has in world. He is even turing our allies in Afghanistan against us. And just look at how well his Car Czar did at recovering GM. How much money did it loose, $4 billion?

WOW!!! You liberals sure know how to pick em dont ya!

Posted by: sanmateo1850 | April 8, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Arguing for the surge is like saying it was great that an arsonist called the fire department 5 hours after setting your house ablaze. The surge was pecipitated because bush started a war based on lies, did not plan for it, and let it spiral into the worst anarchic violence the world has seen in decades.

Arguing that bush "liberated Iraq" Again - what a crock. saddam would be 73 now, if he were still alive. The chances that he ould still be in power is just about zero. If we had done nothing except the containment we had already been doing. So yeah, saddam is gone. But he would be anyway, and at what cost? How many tens of thousands of Iraqis would still be alive? How many thousands of Americans? How many trillions of dollars could we have spent in other ways? We could educate every child on the plaent earth for what it cost to topple an old man who was already losing his grip on power.

bush is and will hopefully always be the worst president we have ever endured. He make buchannan look like a genius. He makes nnixon look honest ad law abiding. He makes harding seem incorruptible. And he makes hoover look like an economic giant.

Posted by: John1263 | April 8, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I get it. You can *%&@ up the country all you want, as long as you do it conservatively. That pretty much sums up the reality of the modern conservative movement.

Posted by: st50taw | April 8, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I guess Thiessen is too high on adrenaline for his last torture session to consider how exactly these policies actually worked out....

TAX CUTS: Grew the deficit to stupid amounts and didn't raise the median wage over an entire decade.

JUDGES. Allowed international corporations to spend infinity dollars on political propaganda.

FREE TRADE. America has continued to bleed jobs to all these other countries and receive no economic benefits in return that help average citizens.

HEALTH CARE. Despite "the greatest free market thing in health care" out of pocket health care costs increased more during Bush's two terms than in any time in history.

SCHOOL CHOICE. America fell behind the rest of the world during Bush's time in office.

SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE. Tell that to the 100,000 Iraqi civilians you buried.

NATIONAL DEFENSE. More and bigger attacks against the US than in any other Presidency.


MISSILE DEFENSE. Has been a defense contractor slopping trough since Reagan.

EXAPNDING FREEDOM. Bush passed a law that suspends habeus corpus, the 4th amendment, the 5th amendment, 6th amendment, 8th amendment, allowed for spying on US citizens with no court oversight and now those same policies although the assassination of US citizens. That's not more free.

THE SURGE. The real surge was the surge in bribes we paid the Sunni's to turn against al-Qaeda and fight for us. The surge had nothing to do with troops and everything to do with bribes.

SOCIAL SECURITY. Had Bush succeeded in allowing privatized social security, the market collapse after the sub-prime melt-down would have erased massive portions of people's retirement savings.

Who cares if Bush was Conservative or not? Whatever he was, he was awful at it.

Posted by: Gover | April 8, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Mr. Thiessen, for compiling this encyclopedic indictment of 43's tenure. It's a useful reminder to those of us tempted to criticize Pres. Obama for being "too" centrist and pragmatic of just how lucky we are that the Bush era is over.

Unfortunately, as PeterPamZ rightly points out, Bush's irresponsible refusal to pay for his tax cuts, two wars, etc., guarantees we'll all still be paying the bills for a LONG time to come.

Posted by: DCSteve1 | April 8, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

OK...lets go one by one:

TAX CUTS: Were primarily for the wealthy and had to expire in 10 yrs because they were unpaid for.

JUDGES: The current SJC is now allowing corporate money into the political system...I guess its conservative.

FREE TRADE: Was this really good for American workers?

HEALTH CARE: Please, Bush did pretty much nothing as costs skyrocketed.

SCHOOL CHOICE: Yes, take money away from public schools and give them to tuition based private schools. It hasn't proven to work.

SANCTITY OF LIFE: Yes, the government controlling a woman's right to choose. Also, bog conservative government budding into our private lives: Remember Terri Schiavo? Oh what do the Tea Partiers think of that?

EXANDING FREEDOMS: Are you kidding? That is not why we went into Afgan & Iraq

NATIONAL DEFENSE: Yes he spent, but did he do it smartly? Remember, 9/11 occurred on his watch.

SOCIAL SECURITY: Can you imagine what would have happened if a large percentage of people had their social security savings in the stock market in 2008?

So even though he spent like a drunken soldier, here is what he missed:

-Reduced funding of SEC...couldn't catch Madoff
-Reduced funding for FEMA..Hurricane Katrina response

How is that for a legacy.

Posted by: jimbom | April 8, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

So this is an explicit admission that what conservatives do is (1) increasing spending and (2) cut taxes.

But we're supposed to elect conservatives to take care of the budget deficit?

Does not compute.

Posted by: edwardlahoa | April 8, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Sir-you should take your wittle red pen, and your wittle red pencil, and your BIG CHIEF tablet, and write speeches for the
elite of the GOP dupes like Boehner, McConnell, Graham, Rove, Rummy, Rice for Brains, Limpballs, Beck, Hannity, Coulter, Palin and Bachman, the list goes on and on. Your fine talents of intelligent observation are absolutely remarkable. Obviously your tenure with the monster men created a wittle brain lavaging. Your memory is incredibly selective, where is the mention of thousands of lives lost in that hell hole of a toilet that now STILL cannot govern themselves? Their freedom is
a fragile thing, and now Bushy Shrub's pocket buddy is threatening to destroy all hopes of a successful endeavor over there where they raise poppies as their major
export, and HE'S imbibing. I often wondered what kind of mind altering item
dubya was on. Your article is an insult to every American, and especailly all those who are hungry, sick, homeless, jobless,
or on the brink of all these maladies. Go
back and kiss their ***es, are you still on their putrid payroll?

Posted by: patriotgmalou | April 8, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

The sooner we forget that moron w the better. He was responsible for the ruination of this country.

Posted by: davidsawh | April 8, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Remember back in the 2000 election debates Bush and Gore would argue about what to do with all the SURPLUS federal revenue? The Congressional Budget Office projected a $2.7 TRILLION federal surplus between 2000 and 2009. Well, Bush got elected, he enacted massive tax cuts, engaged in a pointless and horribly expensive war, and expanded government spending to unprecedented levels. By 2008 he had run the Federal debt to $10 trillion, a record high. He did all of this just in time for the Great Recession, so that the country was utterly unprepared to handle a financial crisis of that magnitude. Once again, bang up job Mr. President!

Posted by: MarkDaniel | April 8, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

In a column full of complete, utter disregard for the truth, here's my favorite:

EXAPNDING FREEDOM. Bush brought freedom to more than 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq, the largest expansion of human liberty since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
......

Go into any bookstore. You can find a dozen books by reputable authors that describe how Bush LIED US INTO THE IRAQ WAR. He knew full well that there were no WMD's there, but it was a useful lie, so he got George "Slam Dunk" Tenet and the CIA to lie to Congress, and the American people.

Fred HIatt should be horsewhipped for printing these lies. But then, Fred was an Iraq war cheerleader, too.


Posted by: losthorizon10 | April 8, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

According to Conservatives, Conservatism itself absolutely, positively cannot fail no matter how much it seems to time after time in the real world.

It's Conservatives like former President Bush, who failed Conservatism by the commission of the sin of not being Conservative enough.

A sin by the way, which can only be detected in hindsight.

Perfect.

Posted by: cfeher | April 8, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Bush's conservative legacy is the same as Reagan's:

Crippling, generational debt;

An unnecessary war;

Socialism in the form of government bail-outs;

The destruction of the middle class.

Monkey see, monkey do.

Posted by: WhatHeSaid | April 8, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

When are Republicans like Thiessen and Hyatt going to learn... they should never talk about Bush. They should never even mention Bush. He never existed, he was never president. Everything is Obama's fault.

Posted by: ottoparts | April 8, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

"NATIONAL DEFENSE. Bush increased defense spending by nearly 73 percent, more than even Ronald Reagan, and the largest increase since the Truman administration. "

LMAO.
That's like saying the Boston Strangler was responsible for the biggest increase in spending on law enfoecement in Boston's history. In fact, it isn't even true. Osama Bin Laden is the guy responsible for the spending increases, not Bush. You aren't saying Bin Laden ought to make the Republican hit parade are you Mr. T?
OTOH, Bush couldn't have been a two termer without Bin Laden so maybe you are.

"TAX CUTS. Bush enacted the largest tax cuts in history -- and unlike my personal hero, Ronald Reagan, he never signed a major tax increase into law. "

The US had a 5 trillion dollar defecit when Bush took office. He should have paid that off, or at least down,before cutting federal income.


J

Posted by: JohnRCarroll | April 8, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

do we forget the worst president ever is now in office and he proved it in just one year.

Posted by: samuellenn | April 8, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Just to be clear: Democrats will gladly discuss Bush's legacy. We'll discuss it all day long. We are still living in it.

Posted by: ottoparts | April 8, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

What a disgusting human w was. Thankfully only laura will have to deal with that manchild. She deserves it though.

Posted by: davidsawh | April 8, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Why does the Post continue to give space to this apparatchik?

Posted by: DeadCenter | April 8, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

This opinion piece probably tested well in Amnesiastan,but to those of us who were adults in the 1990s or just graduated into the worst job market in decades, it's a fantasy. Poking that pile of horse manure that was the GW Bush administration and shouting gitty up doesn't make it a pony you hack.

Posted by: bassetwrangler | April 8, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

The only thing Bush ought to get any credit for is helping make possible the election of Barak Obama.

There probably wouldn't be a "President" Obama had he not been preceded by an idiot.

"Mission Accomplished" Georgie!.

J

Posted by: JohnRCarroll | April 8, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Where are the sharp, well-informed conservatives to write sharp, well-informed articles in our newspapers?

Are we really going to assert that "Bush brought freedom to more than 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq"?? Are we seriously going to argue that?

How many dead Iraqis whose death came as a result of Bush's invasion would it take for you Mr. Thiessen to reconsider your liberty argument? How many thousands have fled Iraq because of the invasion and the troubles that ensued? Perhaps as many as 500, 000. Did they flee because liberty was brought to their land? How many dead Afghans killed by our military operations (however inadvertently) would it take for you to rethink that statement.

This half-baked, oversimplified garbage that passes for intelligent commentary is exactly what got us into our foreign policy nightmares in the first place. You claim to be a devout Catholic. So please, let me as a fellow Catholic appeal to your faith. Study Aquinas' ideas on violence. Think about what Augustine taught about just war. Give Thomas Merton or Dorothy Day a glance. Try to enlarge your concept of "pro-life" beyond the issue of embryos. Try out the works of Andrew Bacevich one the the brightest minds on American foreign policy and a Catholic. Wrestle with the beatitudes. Consider the "Peace Prayer of St. Francis" and then contrast that with your unnuanced affirmation of waterboarding and war in general.

Let this article by Mr. Thiessen stand as exhibit A, a perfect example of the adolescent foolishness which is bleeding our nation to death.

Posted by: mindfulness | April 8, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

The only thing Bush ought to get any credit for is helping make possible the election of Barak Obama.

There probably wouldn't be a "President" Obama had he not been preceded by the idiot son of GHW Bush.

"Mission Accomplished" Georgie!.

J

Posted by: JohnRCarroll | April 8, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Wow Mark, your list of his "conservative wins" reads like an obituary listing of failed opportunities and blunders that will haunt America. Undermining The International Court that is cincerely trying to confict the worst murderers of our generation, weakening Social Security that allows a net for the most vulnerable among us,prideful dismissal of missile defense, and school choice that undermines our public education system. Way to go!

Posted by: cadam72 | April 8, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

The Bush presidency was a perfect laboratory for Conservatism.

Bush got everything he wanted, with the single exception of privatizing Social Security.

He got every war, every soldier, every dollar, every tax cut he wanted.

And what were the results?

Disaster. That's what Conservatism means for America. And they want to run the country again.

And there are just enough mentally and culturally retarded teabaggers in this country to make it a possibility.

There is no greater threat to America than the possibility of the same people who wrecked this country during the Bush years getting into power again.

Posted by: ottoparts | April 8, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

OTTOPARTS
YOU ARE NOW LIVING IN THE CLINTON POLICES

Posted by: samuellenn | April 8, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Excellent article. I read that article saying Bush wasn't a Conservative and I laughed because it was silly and I couldn't figure out what their agenda might have been to write such silliness.

Posted by: ZZim | April 8, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Now that we have had some time to recover from the trauma of the Bush administration we can see clearly that Bush was the worst possible President. I don't know enough history to state categorically that he was the worst ever, but I certainly hope he was the worst I will see in my lifetime. And we should never forget that he only got into office because of the actions of a skewed Supreme Court, and the anti-constitutional "stop the count" policy of the Republicans.

Posted by: gposner | April 8, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

samuellenn, right, it's all Clinton and Obama's fault. Bush never was president and he never even existed. You teatards believe the opposite of whatever is true, that's your retarded culture.

Posted by: ottoparts | April 8, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

The surge? You mean when James Baker and his team was called in and forced little boy George to fire Rumsfeld, replace him with Gates, and act like he knew that there was a war on? The worst war time president we ever had, as shown by the fact that both of his wars are still undecided. We've really got a lot to show for our losses in blood and treasure don't we? Stop acting like this pretender was a "decider". He even pretended to have read 100 books in a year.

Posted by: curtb | April 8, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

curtb, he also pretended to be fluent in Spanish, and you could go on and on. He had a weird personality cult like Kim Jong Il that praised his heroic virtues. Thiessen was part of that of course, and he's still working on it as you can see from this article.

Posted by: ottoparts | April 8, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

ZZim: Do you think the reason those folks rejected Bush as conservative might be because they're desperate to disown him? Look what his conservatism left us. And don't act like the Republicans left the country in the oughts and returned to find that the Democrats had ruined everything. They were applying the gas the whole time as we went down that road.

Posted by: curtb | April 8, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

"OUr country is more deeply divided as a result of his attitude toward anyone with an opposing idea."

Posted by: sanmateo1850
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Compare Obama's statements about opposing ideas with those of Cantor, Boehner, and the rest of the "everyone who disagrees is a communist" crowd.

Posted by: leftcoaster | April 8, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Mr.Theissen-crawl up out of the hole in which you dwell and read these posts-these are the words of regular, hard-working, decent, moral Americans who see those 8 years in a VERY DIFFERENT LIGHT THAN YOU DO. That is because we were all out there living in HIS HELL, and you were inside the bubble, drinking the kool-aid, schoozing with the madmen, and getting rich off of us, along with your crooked
idols. I really feel sorry for you in your delusional world of facts, and rhetoric, and pathetic worship of devilish deceit.
God help ya man, it's not too late for ya to wake up and find reality.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | April 8, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

These are accomplishments? Increasing the already bloated military budget by 73% is something to be proud of when access basic health care was beyond the reach of tens of millions of American citizens? The Internationa Criminal Court? Bush and Cheney and company should be tried in the Criminal Court for crimes against humanity. Excessive tax cuts for the wealthiest of Americans? Near destruction of the US economy? Lying to the American people and the world at large about the rationale for a war of choice? Ignoring the evidence of global warming so that oil industry executives could contimue to line teir pockets at our expense? These are accomplishments? I shudder to think what the author thinks would constitute a FAILED administration.

Posted by: topperale | April 8, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Of course Bush is not a conservative!

Saying, "Bush expanded the size of government dramatically, but...." is like saying like saying, "Except for not believing in Jesus, my friend Saul is a great Christian."

REAL Conservatives don't trample on the Constitution, let involve the federal government in public eduction, don't meddle in social issue like abortion, and don't start unprovoked wars.

Posted by: pmendez | April 8, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Only Republicans could argue over who on their team are real conservatives and who's not! The bottom line is that nearly all of these conservative pundits voted for Bush, wrote glowing editorials about Bush and basically walked lock step with him all the way. Just more rats jumping ship and preening in their mirrors.

Posted by: jrussell1 | April 8, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Legacy?? Chimpy has a legacy?? HA!

What, his claim to fame as the WORST PRESIDENT IN THE NATION'S HISTORY - EVER...

Prepare his family name, and now yours, as top-five hall of fame material for dumbest man alive competition for which you two may tie....

Posted by: rbaldwin2 | April 8, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Warmongering is a liberal/socialist trait. Socialists believe that since their motive making the world a better place, killing people is no sin.

Viet Nam = Kennedy & Johnson
Korea = Truman
WW2 = FDR
WW1 = Wilson

Of course, Hitler, Lenin, Stalin & Mao were the real liberal/socialist killers.

Posted by: pmendez | April 8, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

ottoparts
Just look at the truth it's all coming out now but i know libs can't stand the truth.

Posted by: samuellenn | April 8, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

NATIONAL DEFENSE. Bush increased defense spending by nearly 73 percent, more than even Ronald Reagan, and the largest increase since the Truman administration.

This is conservative? I'd call it fiscally irresponsible.

Posted by: bertram2 | April 8, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I fully agree that Bush II was the most conservative president this country has had.
I only take exception to considering his legacy as anything to be proud of. He has left us with a mess of historic proportions
and came close to sinking the country. That the country managed to survive his presidency is a testament to the resilience of the American economy but surely it is not due to his conservative philosophy. Conservatives are distancing themselves from him and blaming the mess he left us to him not being a true conservative. What else can they do without discrediting the conservative movement as a whole?

Posted by: serban1 | April 8, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

We elected Bush for one main reason,did you see the other choice.

Posted by: samuellenn | April 8, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

This is a great comedy piece! Where can we see this clown's stand-up act?

Posted by: tomguy1 | April 8, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Bush is a war criminal, mass murderer, he ordered mass torture, he and his administration attacked the middle class while providing the largest chunk of welfare ever, to large corporations, many of them operating criminally.

Thiessen, you're out of touch with everyone but Michelle Bachman. Get lost. Find another job you might be good at.

Posted by: 2229 | April 8, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

As a student of science, I really hate how conservatives like to say that defunding embryonic stem cell research helped advance scientific discovery. These techniques would've been found out otherwise because of a multitude of concerns other than fiscal ones. But, to say that by limiting the necessary resources to understanding human development, that you've helped advance science, that takes chutzpah.

Posted by: HTseng | April 8, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

the republican party is full of conservatives.. it doesn't mean what it use tomean.. nowadays it means "hate your neighbor if s/he isn't like you".

Posted by: newagent99 | April 8, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

"SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE. "
LMAO... so long as it's a fetus and not a human being

Posted by: newagent99 | April 8, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

OK, TORTURE BOY is back for his Friday whipping. I'll be back in the morning to register a few virtual lashes. Publishing this article certainly makes him deserving of it.

Posted by: lectricbass | April 8, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
The facts are that Republicans took over from Clinton with no vision other than whatever Clinton did we will do the opposite. And we can see the same playbook being played today.
Republicans left the middle class without jobs, and if they still had a job they are now doing the work of two. Republicans were in power when the largest transfer of wealth from the working class to the governing class took place and is still taking place.
Iraq and Afghanistan??? We know thousands on innocent men women children, American troups have died. We will not know the outcome until far into the future.
We do know that America cares not one iota about Palestinians being kept in servitude by best bud Israel.
How about the Supreme Court justices who share a brain?.
How about the Republican adoration of pudgy white men with breasts and potty mouths?.

Posted by: JillCalifornia | April 8, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Dear Thiessen - we see your name and immediately think "he's so full of BS, what's next - Bush claims Oceanographer Award?"

Like O'Connell, you are your own worst enemy. Want to see a list of Bush F-Up's?

Posted by: ScottChallenger | April 8, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Alito and Roberts for sure will go down in history, but not for the same reasons Thiessen thinks. They are right-wing activist judges doing the bidding of corporations (perhaps a bit of facism here?), which is evident every time they hand done a decision. Poor deluded Thiessen. Doomed to spend the rest of his life defending the Bush administration and their dreadful legacies.

Posted by: lddoyle2002 | April 8, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Can't you just imagine reading this article with "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, über alles in der Welt" playing in the background.


Posted by: rcc_2000 | April 8, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Thiessen, stop already, I hurt myself from laughing so hard!!!

George W. Bush

WORST

PRESIDENT

EVER

Posted by: Heerman532 | April 8, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Ha! You say Bush fought valiantly for Social Security reform - just imagine the mess we would have had if he had won that fight. He would have funneled everyones hard earned money into the stock market, where Wall Steer executives would have sucked all that money out for themselves, and we would have watched whatever remained lose the rest of it's value in the Bush stock market crash at the end of his disaster of a presidency.
Social Security would have been bankrupted last year, instead of in 25 or more years as it is now... just think of all the elderly people who would literally be living in cardboard boxes.
I guess conservative tea-bagger republican means to be a heartless greedy war monger with no regard for the average American, just the rich ones.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | April 8, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight.
Massive increases in spending in combination with massive cuts in taxes (which, in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, means massive borrowing) is a conservative value?

Ok Massive Borrowing = Conservative Value
check

73% growth in military when we had no significant military threat, while ignoring intellegence and direct threats from small groups or terrorist is a conservative value?

Massive misappropriation of resources to defend against non-existant threats, while leave our country without defense against against actual threats = conservative value.

School voucher to spend Federal tax dollars on religious programs = conservative value.

Inserting the government in between individual women and their doctors = conservative value

So basically GW conservatism = powerful federal government borrowing money, spending wastefully, funding churches, and dictating people's personal affairs.

Gotcha.

Posted by: mattrose | April 8, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

With creative writing skills like these, Theissen could get a job writing text books in Texas.

Posted by: mgurbada909 | April 8, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Please WaPo, do keep bringing up the topic of chimpie, goebbels, gonzo, kinda-sleezy, etc.

You can even run a follow up on that guy cheney shot in the face...OH OH...or how about cheney's lesbo daughter...then we can focus the discussion on the 'real' conservatives that the GOP so adores!

Posted by: Heerman532 | April 8, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

The midterm elections this year will juxtapose all of W's failures, that Thiessen somehow brags about, to Obama's record of accomplishments on;
stimulus package(s) - housing, cars, etc
healthcare
Sotomeyor
nuclear arms agreement
letting the tax cuts on the rich and estates expire
financial regulation
ending the war in iraq
cleaning up the environment
opening up offshore drilling
NOT trying to provide amnesty to illegals (like w's slave-labor wing of the GOP tried to do)


I think Obama and the Democrats have better than even odds of holding their ground.

Posted by: Heerman532 | April 8, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Thiessen is a sick man who needs therapy, not a column in the Washington Post.

Posted by: rbmurals | April 8, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

just when I thought conservative ideologues didn't have a sense of humor . . . oh wait, the joke's on us

Posted by: goexplode | April 8, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

One of the reasons I gave up on the Post is because of the increase in this kind of drivel. The old media covets the Fox News ratings so they trot out these right wing clowns hoping to attract the Fox crowd. Won't work. The Fox News audience is too old and drunk to read.

Posted by: estockto | April 8, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Is this guy for real? I mean, I'm all for making an argument but it really should make sense first. And avoid terms that make it sound like you're beatifying the man. We'll be cleaning up the mess he left for a while.

Posted by: dg1231 | April 8, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Torture, Wars and the Ownership Society bringing down the Country to the lowest level since the Great Depression .... that's how history will remember George W. Bush!

Posted by: lunetrick | April 8, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Bush: Worst president of all, primarily because he was a right-wing conservative

Posted by: dudh | April 8, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

To summarize: Bush's conservative legacy is a mountain of debt, never-ending war, and a wrecked economy.

Posted by: leftcoaster | April 8, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

For those who say Bush lied us in to war might need to look at the dems vote and comments about it were.

Posted by: samuellenn | April 8, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Funny stuff! We've found the new George Carlin!

Posted by: lewfournier1 | April 8, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Sanctity of human life?What about all the Americans and Iraqis who died in an unnecessary war in Iraq?

This column might be funny if the reality weren't so obscene.

Posted by: maggots | April 8, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Warmongering is a liberal/socialist trait. Socialists believe that since their motive making the world a better place, killing people is no sin.

Viet Nam = Kennedy & Johnson
Korea = Truman
WW2 = FDR
WW1 = Wilson

Of course, Hitler, Lenin, Stalin & Mao were the real liberal/socialist killers

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Civil War = Lincoln
Spanish-American War = McKinley
Vietnam = Eisenhower actually deserves credit
Gulf War = Poppy Bush
Iraq War = GW Bush
Afghanistan War = GW Bush

Do you have any other moronic postings to share with us tonight?

Posted by: maggots | April 8, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Hmm The Bush legacy:

Allow America to be attacked [√]
Fail to find Bin Laden [√]
Start a two front war by attacking a country that had: No Link to 9/11, NO Link to Al Qaeda and NO WMD. [√]
Fail to win both wars. [√]
Get America castigated as torturers [√]
Out CIA agents and assets to the Iranians [√]
Tripple the price of gas at the pump and raise the oil barrel price to over 140 Dollar. [√]
Produce the biggest increase in BIG government spending in US history while allowing US bridges and infrastructure to fall apart. [√] (Still not sure how achieved that one?)
Make America a home for fraudsters Madoff, Enron, Abramoff, Tom Delay, Tom Anderson, John G. Rowland, George Ryan, Tom Noe etc.[√] (possibly the answer to the one above)
Start out with Zero debt and leave a 12 Trillion Dollars Government Debt bill for US tax payers. [√]
Halve the value of every US citizens home, pension and 401K. [√]
Cripple the US Economy [√]
Give out the worlds biggest ever welfare check, for billionairs who bankrupt their own company (Halliburton) 6 Billion Dollars. [√]
Better the 6 Billion by 1 Trillion Dollars for Wall Streets Welfare Queens.
Turn the Republican party into the communist party [√]
Split the Republican party by creating the Teabag party. [√]
Make the Republican party unelectable. [√]

An Incomplete list, I know, I ivite others to list more of George Bush jnr's true conservative legacy by adding to it.

Posted by: walker1 | April 8, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

"The thrust of their argument is that Bush expanded the size of government dramatically -- and they are absolutely right. Federal spending grew significantly on Bush’s watch, and this is without question a black mark on his record. ...TAX CUTS. Bush enacted the largest tax cuts in history -- and unlike my personal hero, Ronald Reagan, he never signed a major tax increase into law."

Don't you people get it?....increasing spending, starting a major war, and at the same time cutting taxes is not "conservative" -- it's simply fiscal irresponsibility. And we will be paying for this, literally, for a long time to come.

Posted by: david_misc | April 8, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

"Federal spending also grew dramatically under Ronald Reagan, though he was dealt a Democratic Congress, whereas Bush had six years of Republican leadership on Capitol Hill"

Can't you conservatives write 20 words without trying to Fox News us?

What you say above might be true in wingnut reality, but here in actual reality it's pure spin.

Reagan had a Republican Senate for six of his eight years and he had effective control of Congress for all eight years because of a block of about 20 Democrats who voted with him on everything.

Your argument that Reagan was controlled by Democrats is as false as any story you might hear on Fox News.

I expected better from the Washington Post.

Posted by: Andrea_KC | April 8, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

You guys can keep coming up with excuses for why Comrade Bush, Comrade Cheney and all the other "conservative" leaders can't run an efficient and productive government, and we Democrats and our wise President will keep laughing at you and your insanity.

You Republicants wouldn't know fiscal discipline if it hit you up side the head with a signed copy of Wealth of Nations by the liberal creator of capitalism, Adam Smith.

Posted by: WillSeattle | April 8, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Check out the rose-colored glasses on this guy.

I guess those on the right are having a tough time deciding whether to keep distancing themselves from the Decider, or to just re-write what happened.

Posted by: robrice311 | April 8, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

First, let us take up the issue of the appointment of Roberts and Alito to the Supreme Court and Theissen's conjecture that these appointments will be viewed "favorably" in the future. By whom, may I ask? Fact is they are abysmal failures, two of the worst appointments ever.

However, I will not argue with the statement that Bush was conservative. He certainly was. But at what cost? View the last few months of his presidency with his approval ratings at justifiably historical lows. He started an unnecessary war that made the world less safe and cost almost a trillion dollars to date, all of it unfunded. The financial system was in shambles. Katrina. Torture. Terry Schiavo. Huge expenditures unsupported by spending cuts or tax increases. 73 per cent increase in defense spending yet nothing to help the one quarter of the population living in poverty, the fift million without health insureance.

Sure Bush was conservative, but he was also the worst president in history,and his legacy is one of ruin.

But don't let me stop here. Reagan is this guy's hero. Reagan, the man who did the most to stigmatize the most disadvantaged of all Americans, one of the worst presidents in history.

Reagan and Bush. If these men are your heros you shouldn't be writing columns. You should be checking yourself into the nearest mental facility.

Posted by: nyrunner101 | April 8, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Why does this list of examples seem more Liberal to me than Conservative.

Most of the examples cited COST Taxpayers millions, if not billions of dollars.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | April 8, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Conservatives are in favor of limited government because they understand that government intervention is expensive, and it is very difficult to ensure success. Government intervention with the best of intentions can have unintended negative consequences.

Liberals may or may not understand this, but they are in favor of government intervention in hopes of alleviating misery and bringing the greatest good to the greatest number.

As is the case with most politicians, Bush was neither conservative nor liberal president. He was a Republican, doing things that made his political party happy.

Posted by: no_uniquemypostids_left | April 8, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Bush, worst president, right-wing conservative, trashed our country.

Posted by: dudh | April 8, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Enumerating the positive results of George W. Bush's administration is not unlike knowing he price of everything, but not knowing the value of anything.

Posted by: yarcan228 | April 8, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

I just want to see the jobs that were promised in return for the tax cuts.

Where are they?

Posted by: colonelpanic | April 8, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

This Bush Speechwriter is probably trying to drum up some work. Imagine trying to sell yourself as chimps man who helped words come out of his mouth?

Posted by: Mnnngj | April 8, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Intellectual dishonesty is not new in political ballyhoo. No doubt there were Nazis who would've defended the Holocaust as population control.

Posted by: Irishvetter | April 8, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Whatta load. You've gotta love that "the Surge" is an indicator of conservative greatness -- spend years creating FUBAR conditions in Iraq, and then take credit for surging to a lesser fubar.

Posted by: russellglee | April 8, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Torture accomplice Marc Thiessen must be trying to get a job for a tabloid or Fox "News." Reagan and W. Bush were the top contributors for the economic decline. Tax slashing for the rich, deregulating corporate America, rewarding the removal of jobs and money out of this nation, and dramatically increasing the spending of the extremely overbloated military budget, left a legacy of a nearly destroyed nation.

Posted by: revbookburn | April 8, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Torture accomplice Marc Thiessen must be trying to get a job for a tabloid or Fox "News." Reagan and W. Bush were the top contributors for the economic decline. Tax slashing for the rich, deregulating corporate America, rewarding the removal of jobs and money out of this nation, and dramatically increasing the spending of the extremely overbloated military budget, left a legacy of a nearly destroyed nation.

Posted by: revbookburn | April 8, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

This list of conservative "accomplishments" is timely, in case anyone of independent thinking was considering a revisionist account of the Bush II presidency.

Add the infamous deeds left unmentioned, especially deception about the rationale for the Iraq invasion, the unnecessary loss of human lives and hundreds of billions caused by the invasion, the refusal to confront climate change, the tragic fiasco of the response to Katrina, incompetence in ignoring warnings leading to 9/11, the use of torture, neglect of the needy, etc. and most people should agree Bush II was one of the four or five worst presidents so far.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | April 8, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately for Theissen (Bush's writer) and for Reagan's writers, there are too many of us alive who know the truth of their Presidencies.

President Bush will go down in history as the worse President ever not elected by the majority of the people. In 2000 Bush did not receive a majority of votes of the nation. The Supreme Court whose members appointed by Republicans that Theissen complains about, interfered in the 2000 election, and insured Bush won.

Theissen said Iraq folks are free, that is those who were not killed when Bush invaded in his war of choice. But, they are no longer free to enjoy electricity all day in a country with over 100 degree temperatures. They lost their infrastructure, schools, hospitals, museums, and safety because of the President's actions. Many Iraq folks had to leave the country to be safe and still have not returned.

The Free Trade that Theissen said President Bush brought us was not monitored to ensure the US was treated fairly, and our economy tanked before President Bush even left office. We can thank President Bush for giving our businesses the right to take our jobs overseas and send products back to the US for us to purchase. Only, we have no jobs and little money now to purchase items, so the US companies who left have tanked also.

Theissen said that President Bush increased the Military Budget - true - but he decided to borrow and put the country into debt instead of pay for the increase.
He prefered to leave office with the debt he assumed for this buildup to countries like China.

You can take each item listed by Theissen and if you even think a little bit, you will see how President Bush drove the country off a cliff by the end of his term in 2008.

Thank heavens the country was smart enough to vote for a Democrat who took actions to help the country to recover with one of the single largest increases of the stock market in one year - over 3,000 points. He helped midigate the loss of jobs with health care insurance reform effective immediately - No pre-existing conditions, no lifetime caps, children stay on the policies of parents until age 26, etc.

Posted by: SCVoter | April 8, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately for Theissen (Bush's writer) and for Reagan's writers, there are too many of us alive who know the truth of their Presidencies.

President Bush will go down in history as the worse President ever not elected by the majority of the people. In 2000 Bush did not receive a majority of votes of the nation. The Supreme Court whose members appointed by Republicans that Theissen complains about, interfered in the 2000 election, and insured Bush won.

Theissen said Iraq folks are free, that is those who were not killed when Bush invaded in his war of choice. But, they are no longer free to enjoy electricity all day in a country with over 100 degree temperatures. They lost their infrastructure, schools, hospitals, museums, and safety because of the President's actions. Many Iraq folks had to leave the country to be safe and still have not returned.

The Free Trade that Theissen said President Bush brought us was not monitored to ensure the US was treated fairly, and our economy tanked before President Bush even left office. We can thank President Bush for giving our businesses the right to take our jobs overseas and send products back to the US for us to purchase. Only, we have no jobs and little money now to purchase items, so the US companies who left have tanked also.

Theissen said that President Bush increased the Military Budget - true - but he decided to borrow and put the country into debt instead of pay for the increase.
He prefered to leave office with the debt he assumed for this buildup to countries like China.

You can take each item listed by Theissen and if you even think a little bit, you will see how President Bush drove the country off a cliff by the end of his term in 2008.

Thank heavens the country was smart enough to vote for a Democrat who took actions to help the country to recover with one of the single largest increases of the stock market in one year - over 3,000 points. He helped midigate the loss of jobs with health care insurance reform effective immediately - No pre-existing conditions, no lifetime caps, children stay on the policies of parents until age 26, etc.

Posted by: SCVoter | April 8, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Mr. Thiessen, for reminding me just how awful a president GWBush was.

Posted by: kymark | April 8, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Thiessen's reframes of Bush atrocities are insulting, but I'll just comment on two:
1) The wars: Please don't call the bloody attacks and resulting brutal insurgencies an "Expansion of Freedom." That was never his goal, and is certainly not the result despite the efforts of the best among us. Just ask the actual people living in those countries.
Oh BTW, does "Sanctity of Life" not apply to the lives of soldiers and innocent civilians? Shame on the Bush administration's lack of planning after the bombing; that has caused endless unnecessary deaths and injuries on all sides.
2) Social security: After the massive collapse of the economy under Bush, is Thiessen seriously unaware of what would have happened to the social security of millions of people if their accounts had been privatized? Reform may be needed, but that was a disatrous idea whose disaster actually happened!

Posted by: feri | April 8, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

I was going to write something negative in response to the specious article, but saw that I was beaten to the punch by practically everyone else. I am a reformed sinner, having voted for Bush in 2000. To this day, I still think he is a nice guy, but he was way over his head serving as President. In the end, his Administration put the country in a downward spiral from which we may never recover. Unbridled free trade worked great for lining the pockets of the wealthy, but in the end made us a debtor nation with a non-competitive labor sector. The debacle of Iraq only exacerbated matters. His fatal flaw was his choice of confidants during his first term (i.e., Cheney and Rumsfield). The second term was much better, but by then it was too late.

Posted by: George23 | April 8, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

"Bush created Health Savings Accounts - the most important free-market health-care reform in a generation."

Bwahahaha thanks for the laugh

Posted by: orangefh | April 9, 2010 2:09 AM | Report abuse

Wow! Nothing like an nasty echo chamber in the comments section. The reflexive arrogance,ignorance and vitriol displayed by the Bush haters should not surprise me but, still, it takes my breath away everytime. They seem to live in an alternative universe where they remain willfully blind to facts, and pat each other on the back with how intelligent they are. Not surprising they put someone in the Presidency that reflects the same qualities. Too bad the entire country is paying the price (literally) for their shallowness. They're still screaming over Iraq and Afghanistan. We'll be lucky to escape Obama's first term without another WW III.
Good article, Mr. Thiessen.

Posted by: pjwg1 | April 9, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

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