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Haley Barbour is whistlin' 'diddly'

Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (R) doesn't see why folks got all upset with Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell's (R) tourism-generating Confederate History Month proclamation because it initially didn't include a single reference to slavery. After saying he didn't think McDonnell made a mistake, he told CNN's Candy Crowley, "I don't know what you would say about slavery. But anyone who thinks you have to explain to people that slavery's a bad thing I think it goes without saying." I think it goes without saying that it's a bad thing to feed people historically inaccurate lessons. Barbour tried to blunt the criticism against McDonnell by pointing out that there's been bipartisan support for his state's Confederate Memorial Day for years and that he's not heard of Democrats in his state being criticized for it. I wonder how Virginians feel about being linked to Mississippi in this manner.

"To me, it's a sort of feeling that it's a nit that it is not significant, that is not, uh, that is trying to make a big deal out of something that doesn't amount to diddly." Funny how people who want their "culture" and history to be respected -- and who get quite offended themselves when folks make a fuss about honoring those who fought against the Union to preserve a morally corrupt and barbaric system -- have no problem belittling those offended by McDonnell's insensitivity. Then again, they don't care what those people think in the first place.

By Jonathan Capehart  | April 12, 2010; 12:26 PM ET
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The southern, middle-aged ,white man's club just doesn't get it.

Posted by: jckdoors | April 12, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

The southern, middle-aged ,white man's club just doesn't get it.

Posted by: jckdoors
=====================

OH they get it..!!

They are still angry babies because they were forced to join the new century that all people have rights.

AND
Like all Self Declared CONSERVATIVES (which is the wrong definition) still seeking a moral justification for greed and slavery.

Fei Hu


Posted by: Fei_Hu | April 12, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Barbour still did not answer the question of WHY MS ranks 50th for HEALTHCARE and EDUCATION? STILL NO ANSWER WHY!

Jake Tapper asked him on This Week and Barbour DODGED the question!

12-6-09 Sen. Wicker R-MS on C-Span- Y his state ranked 50 for Healthcare? His Answer: Due to MS ranking #50 in education!

Double WAMMY for MISSISSIPPI!

Guess what Barbour did JAN 2010?

Cut EDUCATION!

No more CASINO money -- wink wink!

now he cuts Healthcare

He thinks the LEAVITT Group in UTAH is the was AMERICA needs to DO healthcare!

Google that--- see what BUSH did for America's HEALTHCARE!

Posted by: sasha2008 | April 12, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Haly Barbour is a great American,,,


He believes that promoting Confederate History Month without talking about slavery is OK,,, and that slavery was bad,, but focusing on it now is not really important,,


And the Republican Party wants to fill a big tent,,


Remember this Southern Republican's you can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig,,


you can wish away the history of the south, but it is still racist, even today


“To say that the systematic condemnation of millions to bondage and generation upon generation to servitude is ‘not significant,’ or that the tearing apart of families and the selling of human beings as cattle ‘doesn't amount to diddly’ is outrageous for any public official to say, let alone a man Republicans have placed in a position of leadership.”

Posted by: EastCoastnLA | April 12, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Haly Barbour is a great American,,,


He believes that promoting Confederate History Month without talking about slavery is OK,,, and that slavery was bad,, but focusing on it now is not really important,,


And the Republican Party wants to fill a big tent,,


Remember this Southern Republican's you can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig,,


you can wish away the history of the south, but it is still racist, even today


“To say that the systematic condemnation of millions to bondage and generation upon generation to servitude is ‘not significant,’ or that the tearing apart of families and the selling of human beings as cattle ‘doesn't amount to diddly’ is outrageous for any public official to say, let alone a man Republicans have placed in a position of leadership.”

Posted by: EastCoastnLA | April 12, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

A non-story that only Obama's bootlickers at WaPo care about.

Posted by: kohnfjerry | April 12, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Well, Barbour's thoughtful, timely comments should finally put to rest this idea that Southern Republicans are not all that different from their plantation-owning ancestors.

Posted by: moto-d | April 12, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Foghorn Leghorn Barbour's opinion is duly noted and placed in the circular file...

Posted by: LABC | April 12, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I am not from Mississippi, and I am not suprised that they passd such a resolution. I am from Virginia, and I am very upset and disappointed that we have such a resolution.

I also note that at no time during the campaign for the election, did McDonnell say he would do any such thing.

Posted by: AMviennaVA | April 12, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I've voted against Haley Barbour twice. He and I both know that the "base" of the Republican vote in Mississippi (even more so than in Virginia) is the unreconstructed racist white male vote. He can try to dress it up, but he's not fooling me (or himself).

Posted by: jaltman1 | April 12, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

How long does it take YOU, Mr. Barbour, to cook your grits?

Posted by: Please_Fix_VAs_Roads | April 12, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"Barbour tried to blunt the criticism against McDonnell by pointing out that there's been bipartisan support for his state's Confederate Memorial Day for years and th...."

Ole Haley talks like he's got a mouthful of dogspit, no one understood what he was saying.

Posted by: knjincvc | April 12, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Ole Haley talks like he's got a mouthful of dogspit, no one understood what he was saying.
And republicans actually believe he's a viable presidential contender.

Haley and Newt in 2012.

Posted by: knjincvc | April 12, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Confererate Memorial Day and Confederate History Month seems like two different things to me. The Cofederacy was sending out 15 year olds and old men to fight at the end of the Civil War. In the end, I am sure not very many soldiers had war fever or were indeologues -- just people sick and dying and wanting to go home. I see nothing wrong with honoring the dead. McDonnell is a different story. He knew exactly what he was doing when he forgot to mention slavery -- he is not a stupid or uneducated man. He is buying into the rise of open racism cropping up around the country. I don't agree with a Confederate History Month or celebrating a war that happened mainly because the South wanted to keep its slaves. They call it a war of Nothern Agression and a war about "states rights." The only right they wanted was to preserve the right to own human beings. Haley? Haley is Haley and quite popular. What he said won't hurt him with practically anybody.

Posted by: creatia52 | April 12, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

You can celebrate the dead, but not that tragic war:


The Band---The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
(J. Robbie Robertson)

Virgil Caine is my name and I served on the Danville train
Til Stoneman's cavalry came and tore up the tracks again
In the winter of '65 we were hungry, just barely alive
By May the 10th Richmond had fell, it was a night I remember oh so well.

Chorus:
The night they drove old Dixie down and all the bells were ringing
The night they drove old Dixie down and all the people were singing
They went, Na nana...

Back with my wife in Tennessee when one day she called to me
`Virgil, quick come see, there goes Robert E. Lee'
Now I don't mind choppin' wood and I don't care if the money's no good
Ya take what ya need and leave the rest, but they should never
have taken the very best.

Chorus

Like my father before me I will work the land
Like my brother above me who took a rebel stand
He was just 18, proud and brave, but a Yankee laid him in his grave
I swear by the mud below my feet, you can't raise a Caine
back up when he's in defeat.

Chorus (twice)

Posted by: creatia52 | April 12, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Never understood MS. Trekked through there by car going from Texas to Florida and back. Lovely beaches. Pleasant folks for the most part. The flag sticks in your craw; you can't forget it no matter how hard you try. Neither the wife nor I would spend a dime there, except for gas and, maybe, a quick meal. Kind of sad actually.

Posted by: Martial | April 12, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I had the expensive but good experience of bailing on a 7 night stay in Williamsburg. The bucks went to Marriot so Virginia got nuttin'. So much for Virginia Tourism. Now I have to cancel our reservations for Catfish World in Mississippi.

Posted by: hoser3 | April 12, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

No need to cancel your reservations to the World Catfish Museum in Belzoni, MS-Memphis is close enough that you can spend the night there and buy your gas and food there too. There isn't a decent hotel in Belzoni anyway.
Should you wish to eat in Belzoni, I can supply you with names of African American owned restaurants there. Remember that 45% of us never voted for Haley.

Posted by: jaltman1 | April 12, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

One of Haley's principal antagonists in the State LEgislature is Sen. Rufus Straughter of Belzoni. You can also swing up to Clarksdale to eat at Madidi Restaurant. It's owned by Morgan Freeman and Bill Luckett, a Democratic candidate for Governor next year.
Luckett has spoken the truth-"You can't grow up in the Mississippi Delta and not be a Democrat, unless you are also a racist." Luckett, Haley Barbour and I all grew up in the Delta-only one of us is a Republican.

Posted by: jaltman1 | April 12, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

The premise of a "Confederate History Month" is suspect at best. If Virginia's desire is to promote history and tourism by far the effective approach is a "Civil War History Month" which promotes the study of its history from all perspectives. There is no reason to single out "Confederate Soldiers, etc" for homage and study over Union Soldiers, and other aspects of the Civil War. Unfortunately, this is just more BS for a supposed "moderate" who is nothing more than the same White Citizens Council type politician who has managed to raise his ugly rump once again for a new generation. In sum let's celebrate "Civil War History Month" and not "Confederate History Month". What a crock!

Posted by: McHenry | April 12, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Your never going to get a lucid response from these racially ignorant fecal openings. If the majority of people in Virginia and Mississippi think these Strom Thurmond types are correct, then those 2 states should think about seceding from the government of the United States and form their own Confederacy and receive no monetary, military and any other kind of support from the U.S.

Posted by: rosenfan1 | April 12, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

I am from the South and I wish they'd secede. Bush II would have lost two landslide elections without the South. It's much like West Germany being dragged down by East Germany. Let the South wallow in it's disgusting past (not that the North was pure either) without destroying the future of the entire country. Texas, Miss., Georgia, Louisiana, y'all think Obama is Hitler and the end times are a comin'? Get on out of the way where you can't do any more damage. You people are crazier than a hog in heat. Which is pretty much what Barbour looks like.

Posted by: jonthes | April 12, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour's Confederate History Month declarations do not mention slavery, either. For years he has worn a Confederate flag lapel pin. My guess is Barbour wants other governors from the South to join him in being racially provocative, believing that will help the GOP's chances in the coming elections. We will see if more of them make Confederacy lovin' remarks. Is Piyush Jindal foolish enough to go there?

Posted by: query0 | April 12, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

This is the same Capehart who misquoted Joe Stack and was caught red handed in a lie in attempting to associate Stack with the Tea Party.

Capehart, once you lose trust as a writer, it's over. What will be your second career, Capehart?

Posted by: jblast2000 | April 12, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

"When Israel was in Egypt land,
Let my people go!
Oppressed so hard, they could not stand,
Let my people go!"

Posted by: mullingitover | April 12, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

The GOP and southern white conservatives do know about our nation's long history of slavery, but they seem to have calculated that they have much more to benefit from their likely voters in honoring the Confederacy and white southern culture, than to lose from offending blacks, who the GOP knows has almost entirely has written them off.
Celebrating the Confederacy is sad, really...how might Jews feel about conservative Germans honoring the Third Reich and the Nazis???

Posted by: Civilius | April 12, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

If a conservative mentions slavery in the context of a controversial issue... they're condemned. Now, if they don't... they're condemned.

Just another liberal double-standard they can use to criticize something of minor importance instead of focusing on major issues that affect everyone, such as Obamacare.

How many liberals believe that Newt Gingrich's Obama basketball comment was racist? Unfortunately, I would bet a high percentage.

Posted by: LiberalsAlwaysLie | April 12, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

to all you "anti Confederate nitwits & brain-DEAD, sanctamonious, SELF-righteous DIMocRATS,

as long as you welcome Robert "KKK" Byrd into your "inner circle" of the DIMocRATS Party, don't dare say one word about Governors Barbour and McDonald OR about Confederate History Month!

ANYBODY who TOLERATES a FILTHY, stinking KLANSMAN in their party is as EVIL as the KLAN is.

btw, the LIES that you heard in "the gubmint apruvd publick screwl sistim" are just that: LIES told by knowing liars to FOOL naive, stupid, easily-led morons.
(my advice: do NOT be a FOOL and/or be FOOLED by the liars.)

the WBTS was no more about slavery than it was about chicken salad! - the northern population & the Lincoln administration FEARED & HATED "people of color" (like me for example - i'm a "mixed-blood") & in 1861 had NO intention to EVER free a single slave.
Lincoln said that he wanted NOTHING to do with ending slavery & was willing to "protect the peculiar institution, where it now exists in perpetuity, by Constitutional amendment", if the south would "come back into the Union peacefully".

the ONLY reason that Lincoln did, what LITTLE that he actually did, "about slavery" was that he (correctly) feared that the British Empier would ally herself with the CSA, enter the war on the side of the CSA & that the war would be lost, if he did NOTHING whatever.
the Emancipation Proclamation freed exactly NOBODY!= Lincoln did NOT free the slaves that he COULD free "with a stoke of the pen", so he CHOSE to "free" those that he COULD NOT!
(Lincoln was, like BHO is, a KNOWING/intentional/remorse-LESS LIAR & a STONE RACIST & wished POWER & MONEY, to the exclusion of honor/decency/morality/anything.)

the ONLY reason for the war, according to Lincoln himself, was to prevent the dissolution of the "union of the unwilling". period. end of story.

that is the unvarnished truth, however much you may wish that it was not.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 12, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

to all,

another FACT: think that the damned yankees thought anything GOOD about Blacks, either slave or free?:

during the DRAFT RIOTS in NYC, MORE innocent Blacks were LYNCHED in 4 days of riots than in all the years before/since in the whole USA!.- according to a journalist of the NY Times, who was present & SAW that happened:

"The bodies of so many Black people "decorated every lightpost" for MILES that i could NOT count them all."

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 13, 2010 12:54 AM | Report abuse

A lot of the comments here upset me because they assume and speak of all Southern people as being like-minded drones.

FACT: Haley Barbour, despite being one of the most popular governors in the history of the state, only took 58% of the vote during his re-election.

FACT: During the 2008 Presidential election, Obama took 43% of the state's votes. This percentage is higher than both John Kerry or Al Gore were able to muster in the state.

I know it's convenient to have prejudices against people--it allows you to act like you know everything about them before even meeting them! But know that Mississippi is just as politically diverse as any state. We have plenty of Democrats AND Republicans, liberals and conservatives (in fact, the state legislature has been controlled by democrats for what seems like forever and Hayley Barbour is only the second GOP Governor for MS since Reconstruction). So, please, give us some credit.

"Purple America" <-- Google that. We're all far more politically alike than the media would have you believe.

Posted by: bob4runner98 | April 13, 2010 6:52 AM | Report abuse

The twisted history of the Southern Secession was written by Republicans and that legacy has been fostered since the 1800s. Legend doesn't allow FACTS get in the way.

LIE: Lincoln freed the slaves.
Only if he was in a Seceded State where Lincoln had no jurisdiction. Areas where Federal troops had control as in Missouri and Florida Lincoln refused to allow them to be freed. Northern Slaves were not feed until the 13th Amendment was Ratified in 1865.

Posted by: ddoiron1 | April 13, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

I'm getting sick of writing this. BILL CLINTON DID THE SAME THING, AND NOBODY SAID A WORD. Bill Clinton even added a STAR to his States' Flag, in HONOUR of the CONFEDERACY.
ERNEST HOLLINGS put the Confederate Flag up on his STATES' CAPITOL BUILDING. And guess what? NOBODY SAID A WORD!
Ya looking for SLAVERY? Try looking on the LIBERAL PLANTATION. Find out why all those POOR BLACK KIDS in D.C., had their SCHOOL VOUCHERS ripped from their hands. Find out why, after 60 YEARS of voting DEMOCRAT, the BLACKS are still living in RAT INFESTED, DRUG INFESTED, THIRD WORLD CONDITIONS.
Until then...S.T.F.U.!

Posted by: GoomyGommy | April 13, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

texasnative46 hits it right on the head. You have a KLANSMAN in your own freaking party! Your last President was a RAPIST, for GODS' sake. You've got a Rep. from Massachusetts who was running a GAY WHOR HOUSE out of his D.C. Apartment. His other buddy, Gary Studds, got a STANDING OVATION from YOU, and your FREAK PARTY, when he DEFENDED HIMSELF, for MOLESTING A YOUNG BOY!
You want to find RACISTS and FREAKS and PEDOPHILES? Look in the Mirror! Or call the RAPIST. I understand he's got an OFFICE in HARLEM, that he never goes to, because he's always at his home in in his TOTALY WHITE TOWN, or playing at some ALL WHITE GOLF COURSE, somewhere.
But that doesn't bother you. Does it, sweetheart? Cause it never has before.

Posted by: GoomyGommy | April 13, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

It's no surprise that an old, white-haired Southerner like Haley Barbour thinks McDonnell's insensitivity and lack of leadership was about "diddly." But McDonnell himself is not only younger, but he's from northern Virginia, and in spite of his lackluster academic career, he has children who are young. If he has lived with his eyes and ears open, and if he's listened to his children and his fellow northern Virginians, he knows that Virginia has come a long way since the Civil War -- and that Virginians generally do not want to go back to the Confederacy. Why didn't he celebrate "Civil War History Month" instead of "Confederate History"? It's hard to understand -- since tourists are more likely to flock to a "Civil War History" theme than a theme that takes sides (hint: most tourists have Union soldiers in their ancestry). It's hard to understand until you realize that McDonnell has been pandering to the far right wing in Virginia ever since he took office. It's disappointing, and it's a lose-lose.

I couldn't be more disappointed in this governor. Or in both governors.

Posted by: cturtle1 | April 13, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

The solid south became Republican when Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act; they remain Republican because the Republicans feed thier racism. If you want to read some distorted history check when the Texas School Book Committee did to the history to be taught our children. Thomas Jefferson is out before he promoted separation of church and state; Phyllis Shafly is in because she promoted the far, far right brand of conservatism, etc., etc., You won't recognize what purports to be history. We have a far, right wing governor who appointed these people. Hitler brainwashed the children.

Posted by: withersb | April 13, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Ineffective leaders, like McDonnell, are a lot like ineffective parents. They take sides. Rather than role-model togetherness and fairness and mediation, they role-model favoritism. Bad parents -- we all know this -- choose sides among the children and favor one over another. Even parents who work hard not to favor one child over another sometimes refuse the hard work of modeling family unity. McDonnell is not modeling or advocating unity in Virginia. He's being incredibly wishy-washy -- choosing his right wing for special favor (showing that his senior thesis was no anomaly) -- and then swinging back when shown the error.

I wish Virginia could find another leader -- someone with less of a long learning curve.

Posted by: cturtle1 | April 13, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

So Gov. Barbour thinks that slavery is a bad thing and doesn't amount to diddly> This is what his ancestors said in 1861:
"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization."
They didn't think it was diddly or that it was bad either.

@texasnative46: Take note of this.

Posted by: sjpatejak | April 13, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I'm getting sick of writing this. BILL CLINTON DID THE SAME THING, AND NOBODY SAID A WORD. Bill Clinton even added a STAR to his States' Flag, in HONOUR of the CONFEDERACY.
ERNEST HOLLINGS put the Confederate Flag up on his STATES' CAPITOL BUILDING. And guess what? NOBODY SAID A WORD!
Ya looking for SLAVERY? Try looking on the LIBERAL PLANTATION. Find out why all those POOR BLACK KIDS in D.C., had their SCHOOL VOUCHERS ripped from their hands. Find out why, after 60 YEARS of voting DEMOCRAT, the BLACKS are still living in RAT INFESTED, DRUG INFESTED, THIRD WORLD CONDITIONS.
Until then...S.T.F.U.!

Posted by: GoomyGommy | April 13, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Capeheart must be the laziest journalist ever...he's been playing this broken record for what - four days now? I hope my tax dollars are subsidizing your fat a55.

Posted by: easttxisfreaky | April 13, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

What is it with all the RETHUG REVISIONIST HISTORY??
Do they think people can't read actual history books (or should I say - people interested in learning - as we know that the RETHUGS and many people in the South apparently can't read or won't read - they just pass horrid stories down by generations while sitting at the local bar drinking moonshine and eatin catfish)

Posted by: racerdoc | April 13, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

racerdoc; all,

SORRY, but i'm NOT going you to get away with that piece of(i suspect KNOWING) INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY!

REVISIONIST/REVISIONISM is a LEFTIST sophistry, out of the northeastern "Poison Ivy League" schools, (i would say: PACK OF LIES!, as many of the Revisionists are well aware that their opinions are based in part/totally on FICTION.), which is socialist/northern on outlook on the war (some would say Marxist-Leninist in outlook!)

REVISIONIST is also "a term of art" the definition is FIRMLY fixed among educated people & is well-understood by those in "academia".
(fyi, i've been doing ACTUAL historical research from the "original documents" for over 20 years & MUCH of what is in "actual history books" is, in one word, FALSE.===> full disclosure, my earned academic degrees are in DIPLOMATIC history & Post-secondary Education, rather than WBTS history. = i wrote my dissertation on The Spanish American War & the diplomacy, between the USA & the British Empire,of that particuliar period.)

whatever else we southerners may be, we are NOT & have never been REVISIONISTS!

as for the rest of the "vomitus" in your previous post, do you not think that your comments about southerners are as hate-FILLED, arrogantly ignorant of FACTS, STEREOTYPICAL & FALSE as the DRIVEL believed/published by the worst of the RACISTS?

were i you,(and i'm quite pleased that i am NOT) i would be humilated/shamed that i had been so easily un-masked as a HYPOCRITE, (i suspect) a LIAR & a credulous FOOL, by "an educator, of small note", from a small Texas college.= CHUCKLE!)

fwiw, you should STOP reading REVISIONIST'S LIES, published by south-HATERS of the northeast (they write that FICTION to make more palatable the rape of the poor/racial/ethnic/religious minorities in the southland.) & go do your own research= you'll find that you've been LIED TO & "played for a FOOL".

my advice to readers: DO NOT BE A FOOL!

just my opinion.

yours, Tn46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 13, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Slavery is diddy to Barbour. Of course it is, he would rather have it like it use to be, whitney can hang blacks when ever they please and get away with it. That's what Barbour is trying to bring back.

Posted by: carolynlebeaufyahoocom | April 13, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

carolynlebeaufyahoo.com,

tell me truthfully, are your REALLY dumb & ignorant enough to believe that NONSENSE, OR are you just a PREJUDICED, hate-FILLED, little, NITWIT?

just wondering.

Yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 13, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

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