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The Republican Party has no soul

"Battle for the Soul of the Party" was the subject of the panel discussion at The Week magazine's opinion awards dinner Tuesday night. So, I figured it was a perfect opportunity to ask a question of House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and Steve Schmidt, senior campaign strategist on Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) 2008 presidential campaign.

Do you think the soul of the party rests with Sarah Palin, who is the sweetheart and the golden girl of the Tea Party movement, which is the energy and life, it seems, of the Republican Party? Or does it rest with Scott Brown, who won the Democratically-held seat for 30-something years by Sen. Kennedy in Massachusetts, who was elected by independents, who we all know win elections?

Both Cantor and Schmidt dodged making an explicit choice. But their answers revealed a recognition that the Republican Party has a lot of work to do to regain the trust of the American people and that the purge of moderates from its ranks is a big problem.

"I'm going to probably say that's a false choice and that the soul of the party rests in what most people think the Republicans should be," Cantor said before launching into litany of talking points. Acknowledging that the GOP "fell down on the job" and was "fired in '06," Cantor reminded all that the Republican Party "believes in limited government...in lower taxes...in strong national security." "And, as importantly, [it should be] a party that can be viewed as a competent party to lead this country. That's what I think independent voters in this country are looking for right now." Cantor is correct in his belief that independents are looking for leadership. Unfortunately, he proved allergic to providing specifics other than saying that it "starts with recognizing where real problems are and then trying to apply the principles that Republicans stand for. That's where I think the heart and soul of our party is."

Ever provocative, Schmidt began his answer saying, "I don't think political parties have souls." He went on to say, "They're organizations. I think people have souls." But Schmidt lamented the current purity kick gripping the party. Quoting a story related to him, he said by either Ken Mehlman or Ed Gillespie, both former chairmen of the party, Schmidt said that there are two types of churches. "There's the type of church where the members go out hunting for heretics to kick them out. There's the type of church where people go out looking for converts to bring them in. If we're a political party that goes out hunting for heretics that's not a strategically sound premise." Schmidt then confirmed the heretic hunting in the GOP when he said, "People are getting kicked out of the party."

The anger in America is real, palpable and, in the case of those worried about exploding deficits and the size of government, justified. Reiterating the Republican 101 mantra of cutting taxes and spurring job growth is not enough. People want real and specific solutions to the nation's problems. A party with a soul -- or at least some ideas to bat around that aren't rooted in short-term political gain -- would have something more to offer.

By Jonathan Capehart  | April 22, 2010; 6:34 AM ET
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Does Capehart have a brain or is he simply a mindless Democrat Uncle Tom? Answer: Uncle Tom as proven by his ceaseless attacks on the Republican Party. The SOUL of the Republican Party is LINCOLN while the soul of today's Democrat Party is ALGER HISS who replaced Jeff Davis after the New Deal.

Posted by: bruno77 | April 22, 2010 7:14 AM | Report abuse

Abraham Lincoln is NOT the soul of this Republican party! The party bears no resemblance to anything Lincoln stood for. And how the hell does Alger Hiss have anything to do with the Democratic party?

Posted by: boxman14191 | April 22, 2010 7:24 AM | Report abuse

I'm convinced Cantor is a wind up doll, who can only spout talking points. If he's concerned about expanding the GOP base, he wouldn't have raced to endorse tea party robot, Marco Rubio. Maybe they were spawned at the same toy factory.

Posted by: Koko3 | April 22, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse

bruno77 @ April 22, 2010 7:14 AM: Firstly, it is the 'Democratic' party. Only Republican party hacks refer to it as the 'Democrat' party. Secondly, Lincoln would be chased out of today's Republican party before breakfast. Today's Republicans would not even honor him with the term RINO (whatever they think that means).

Posted by: AMviennaVA | April 22, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

The soul of the Democrat party resides within the tomb of Karl Marx. Democrats keep it locked up when they are out of power so people cannot see them for what they are.

But.......as soon as the liberals are able to fool enough Americans into voting them back into power, they unlock Marx's tomb and let the ghost out.

The problem, for Democrats, is that Marx's apparition is so scary to most Americans that they run, immediately to the nearest ballot box and wish the horrible thing away.

November ballot boxes are getting nearer every day. People are running as never before.

Posted by: battleground51 | April 22, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Jonathan Capehart wrote: "The anger in America is real, palpable and, in the case of those worried about exploding deficits and the size of government, justified. Reiterating the Republican 101 mantra of cutting taxes and spurring job growth is not enough. People want real and specific solutions to the nation's problems. A party with a soul -- or at least some ideas to bat around that aren't rooted in short-term political gain -- would have something more to offer."
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We do offer specific solutions - liberals simply do not want to listen to them. They hold their hands over their ears and shake their heads in complete denial while we provide our ideas:

1. Release the government stranglehold on our businesses. Cut their taxes. Let them conduct their business without intruding on their ability to generate profit, which in turn spurs job growth.

2. Stop the creation of gargantuan entitlements that we cannot pay for. Repeal the recent health care monstrosity. In its place make sure that tort reform and insurance fraud prevention is included with whatever liberal boondoggle you decide on.

3. Cease and desist with the stimulus and jobs bills. These bills are useless bandaids that cost an awful lot and provide very little. Long term jobs are created and nurtured by the private sector.

4. Get the he11 out of Arizona and other states that are doing what they can to protect themselves given that the current Nanny State Government led by Comrade Obama refuses to do anything federally to resolve the influx of illegals, many of whom bring crime with them.

5. If you insist on regulating the financial sector, please remember to include dangerous government 'companies' such as Fannie Mae. The waste and the corruption that permeate these agencies are often worse than the Enrons of the world (analyze the Great Recession of this decade for a prime example).

If the Republican Party lacks a soul, at least they do not share the mindless thug mentality of the Democratic Party. I would very much rather be represented by an everyman like Sarah Palin or Scott Brown who have the interests of the country in their hearts than by con men like Barack Obama, Charles Schumer, and Barney Frank who do not.

Posted by: bryanmcoleman | April 22, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

For a generation liberals have expressed faux lament that the social conservatives controlled the Republican Party and the fiscal conservative moderates had no effective power. Now we see these very fiscal conservatives taking control, but somehow we hear the same faux lament.

When you get the same response regardless of circumstance it's time to wonder what the columnist is really describing. It can't be reality.

Posted by: mj13 | April 22, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Hey idiots: the republican party ceased being the party of Lincoln after the civil rights act when all the racist Dixiecrats became republicans to counter LBJ.

The republicans of the civil war were really today's democrats, and vice versa.

Pick up a history book NOT written in Texas and maybe you won't go through life ignorant and obnoxious.

Posted by: Please_Fix_VAs_Roads | April 22, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

"Firstly, it is the 'Democratic' party. Only Republican party hacks refer to it as the 'Democrat' party."

Missed this commenters outrage over those who call Tea Partiers by a sexual slur. Shocking that the difference between Democrat and Democratic is seen as a big deal, but sexual slurs draw no criticism. Well, at least it would be shocking if 10% of what liberals thought about themselves was actually true.

Posted by: mj13 | April 22, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

"Hey idiots: the republican party ceased being the party of Lincoln after the civil rights act when all the racist Dixiecrats became republicans to counter LBJ."

Well, this is certainly what Democrats tell themselves. Anything to feed their self-righteousness.

The basic difference between the parties is that Democrats have always supported the spoils system. Those who believe government should work to benefit all its citizens are Republicans. The groups getting the spoils have changed, but he policies never have.

Posted by: mj13 | April 22, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

IF YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN WHEN YOU ARE YOUNG, YOU HAVE NO HEART.

IF YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT WHEN YOU ARE OLD, YOU HAVE NO BRAIN.

That pretty accurately sums it up.


Posted by: ChristopherAnn | April 22, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Faced with the reality that most Americans (76%) distrust government and the Liberal policies of the Obama Administration, the mainstream media - pawns of the Left - are trying to "radicalize" the right. The NY Times, LA Times, Atlanta Journal, and TV's NBC, CBS and ABC are all surrendering to the Left in this effort. Any political action that criticizes or rallys against government is now proclaimed to be racist, white supremacist, or at best lacking soul.

Sadly, next to politicians, journalists are equally distrusted and this is evidenced in the reality most are going bankrupt. Only FoxNews continues to grow as Americans of all races and political leanings seek out "fair and balanced" reporting which often is reflective of America's disdain for the Obama Administration. It seems it far more logical to recognize the Liberal policies that are rejecting traditional American values and embracing Socialism is the real "Radical".

Liberals believe there is a huge mass of privileged rich folks that Liberal freeloaders can tap for more entitlements. It isn't true. The spending spree the "Leader of the Free Lunch" is doing is coming directly from the hard earned money of the middle class.

The Robin Hood concept of wealth redistribution - taking from those who work and giving to those who don't is awesome if you really believe only the rich work or that they are the ones who will pay the Trillions this Administration is spending. Obama has already spent in a year and a half more than the spending of ALL prior administrations COMBINED, and that does not include the insane health-care plan he has jammed down America's throat.

Republicans, Independents, Tea Party participants and disheartened Democrats are fed up with this corrupt Administration and will show their anger in the most civil of ways - voting the Liberal bums out in November!

Posted by: 2009frank | April 22, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

bryanmcoleman wrote:

"Release the government stranglehold on our businesses. Cut their taxes. Let them conduct their business without intruding on their ability to generate profit, which in turn spurs job growth." The Republicans did that by doing everything they could to gut regulation. The result was the economic collapse that occurred, let us not forget, during the Bush administration.

Does "Let them conduct their business without intruding on their ability to generate profit..." include letting them pour poisons into waterways and the air for everyone to ingest?

When I began to read bryanmcoleman's post, I thought that he was an intelligent, rationale conservative presenting his positions in a responsible manner. That was before I got to "Comrade Obama" "the mindless thug mentality of the Democratic Party" and "con men like Barack Obama..."
Alas, he reveals himself to be just another right winger who can't express himself without hurling insults and name calling. Too bad.

Finally,anyone who thinks that Sarah Palin and Scott Brown really have much in common demonstrates a lack of critical thinking ability when comparing the two.

Posted by: colton | April 22, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

"...the Republican Party "believes in limited government...in lower taxes...in strong national security." "And, as importantly, [it should be] a party that can be viewed as a competent party to lead this country."

This has been the republican mantra for years - and they've been abject failures. They grew the government, Reagan raised taxes and the national debt and deficit - and bush came along and doubled down. In terms of competency - I think they've fueled the "government is the problem" notion by being so incompetent at actual governance. They either need to revise their platform, or follow through...just once.

You can complain all you want about big government, spending and President Obama, but we knew what we were getting when we voted. He's passing exactly what he ran on - health care reform, wall street reform, ending the wars. Like it or not, he's been a man of his word which is much more than can be said about the republican party and their pipe dreams.

Posted by: JilliB | April 22, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

2009frank needs to understand that the greatest wealth distribution in the history of the country occurred during the last decade. That flow went from the middle class the the wealthy, especially the very wealthy.

Wealth and income inequality have risen dramatically since the mid 1970s. The gaps are dramatic. Unless 2009frank is among the top 20%, especially the top %5 of earners, he's been getting hosed whether he realizes it or not.

The genius of those who have held the levers of power behind the scene is that they have convinced everyman, like 2009frank, that the opposite is true. I think someone, George Orwell maybe, called that doublethink.

Posted by: colton | April 22, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Income inequality and income (or wealth) distribution are not appropriate measures of economic health. Democratic Party policies result in less inequality. They also result in less income for everyone involved. Theirs is a childish reaction by those who never learned that envy (and in many, hatred) is no basis on which to run society.

I want a society where everyone is better off. That some will be much better off than I doesn't bother me a bit.

And by the way, in the Democratic version of society income may be more equal, but consumption isn't. Don't believe for a second that those who make the decisions will abide by the rules they set for us. By moving the center of society away from business to government all you do is change the names of those who are rewarded at the top end of the scale. Look at the compensation for government employees today. And for this the rest of us should agree that having less is a good trade? No dice.

Posted by: mj13 | April 22, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

“Cantor reminded all that the Republican Party "believes in limited government...in lower taxes...in strong national security." Does Cantor recognize the conflict in his statement “in strong national security” with smaller government and lower taxes? I assume he supported the off budget funding of the Bush-Cheney War Crime in Iraq, soon to be a trillion dollar war debt not considering the tragic human costs in American and Iraqi lives. The downward spiral was initiated by Reaganomics and reached its height with Bush, the ideology of Milton Friedman’s ultra-capitalism of deregulation, elimination of social services, tax cuts for the wealthy and that markets will regulate themselves. Reaganomics in combination with the mindless ideology of Alan Greenspan created the “Perfect Storm” of the present financial crisis. Republicans have a lot of “Sin” to account for because the Republicans are frequently on the wrong side of history be it the New Deal with Social Security, the Marshall Plan, MEDICARE, civil rights or health care and now financial reform. A poster made the absurd statement that the current Republican Party is that of Lincoln, how ridiculous! Lincoln was a force for action, not a roadblock of “NO” to the evils of his day! Republicans may congratulate themselves on blocking any consideration of a true universal health care system for all Americans be it the expansion of MEDICARE or even the Public Option, but they in effect have denied all Americans access to health care as enjoyed by other advanced countries be it Switzerland or Singapore, simply to protect the “For Profit” Health Care Insurance Industry, an ATM for the corrupt Wall Street. For Profit Health Care Insurance is counterintuitive and an oxymoron!

Posted by: kemcb | April 22, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: bruno77
The SOUL of the Republican Party is LINCOLN while the soul of today's Democrat Party is ALGER HISS who replaced Jeff Davis after the New Deal.
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If Lincoln were around today, he would be one of the heretics in the Steve Schmidt analogy that the Republican Party would be hunting to kick out

Posted by: Sandydayl | April 22, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

As opposed to the "soul" of Democrats - Godvernment (in the right hands of course)is the way, the truth and the life.

Posted by: rom12921 | April 22, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

to all,

it's NOT the "Democrat Party" or "The Democratic Party", anymore.

instead it's The DIMocRATS Party of:
socialists,
BIGOTS,
fools,
ANTISEMITES,
leftists,
TAX CHEATS,
sexual perversions,
LOUD-MOUTHED wierdos,
"peaceniks",
COMMON CRIMINALS
&
"crooked union bosses".

the days when normal Blue/Pink/White -collar families like ours were "Democrats" are OVER with forever. = we believe that the party bosses sold us out to the RADICALS & we will NOT return, EVER.
("our JFK" today would have NOTHING to do with these FANATICS, military-HATERS & LUNATICS. i believe that he, was he living today, would be an INDEPENDENT, as the party that he championed is NO MORE.)

instead, we moderates/conservatives will vote "for the man/woman who is LEAST disgusting" to us & will remain Tea Party Patriots.

fyi, the FINAL BLOW, for many families like ours, was "BHO's healthcare reform bill", which 2/3 of American citizens oppose. = the DIMocRATS in Congress didn't listen when we said "NO!", so we are GONE from the party.

we will take our REVENGE out on Princess Pelosi, Prince Harry Reid & every other LEFTIST in November of this year & then on BHO/DIMocRATS in 2012 & beyond. ====> if you are a DIMocRAT "office holder" now, start looking for new employment, as you will be VOTED OUT!

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 22, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

okay frank2009, you do know that the results of "polls" are not laws and rules written in stone, right? here's a poll for you done by wapo on good friday, showing marked disatisfaction with the HCR bill. only later on in the article that took two wapo "reporters" to write were we informed that of the 1,009 respondents, 94% were white and 73% were conservatives, not exactly a true representation of 130,000,000 voters. And the vaunted PEW report? sent out by the PEW foundation, which was started of course by the PEW family, huge GOP donors for decades. the prez polls of nov/08 said the race was too close to call, which gee, was not the case at all. No other paper I read on line has as many stories based on poll results as wapo. and the right-wing commentors here lap them up like they were candy, supposedly supporting their FOX spewed talking points. So you go right ahead, keep believing those polls, cause come November, the only poll that matters will be done.

Posted by: katem1 | April 22, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

texasnative46, you and frank2009 should get together since both of you seem to think that posting the results of polls supports your position. all it does is show that of 1,000 to 1500 people, you agree with most of them. that doesn't mean you are right. and you're just getting sucked into the vicious cycle of mediadriven polls supporting media driven controversies. the only poll that matters will be in November, just like the one in Nov/08, where your vaunted polls said the Prez race was too close to call. Instead, the largest electoral victory in recent memory occurred. How could your polls have been so wrong, and off the mark? maybe because they are a big pile of hoooey sold to the same gullible public that bought Iraq having WMD's. Another "poll" on wapo's frontpage a few months back? a Tiger popularity poll---could wapo be anymore highschoolish with this stuff?

Posted by: katem1 | April 22, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

katem1,

YEP, the poll that COUNTS will be the one that DUMPS all of the RADICALS & DIMocRAT CROOKS (like Harry Reid, for example) OUT of their office & gets the REAL people back in control of our government.

the LANDSLIDE that is coming this NOV will BURY the DIMs & make the LEFTIST morons as inconsequential as they really are to "normal people", like the EX-democrats in our family.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 22, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: mj13

Income inequality and income (or wealth) distribution are not appropriate measures of economic health. Democratic Party policies result in less inequality. They also result in less income for everyone involved. Theirs is a childish reaction by those who never learned that envy (and in many, hatred) is no basis on which to run society.

I want a society where everyone is better off. That some will be much better off than I doesn't bother me a bit.

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This is a bit much considering all your posts yesterday bemoaning how unfair it was that teachers had something (tenure) that the rest us don't. We just had to redress their "special status."

Oh well, it never hurts to be flexible.

Posted by: ablum1 | April 22, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

katem1; all,

btw, you are DEAD WRONG. - the Saddam regime DID have WMDs. TONS of them. ====> are you so IGNORANT that you don't KNOW that they KILLED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of UNarmed Iraqi civilians & Iranian soldiers with POISON GAS & BIOLOGICALS?
OR
are you just a LIAR, who HOPES that the other readers here are brain-DEAD?

fyi, my brother-in-law (a LTC in the US Army, who spent 3+ years in Iraq & is NOW stationed in Afghanistan) SAW the WMDs.

also, MSNBC had numerous PICTURES & VIDEOS of American GIs removing those WMDs from the depots in Iraq, a week after the initial invasion.===> are you DUMB enough to believe that MSNBC "created" those pictures to FOOL Americans?

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 22, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Anyone with an attention span longer than ten minutes can read about how Republican administrations have not been "fiscally responsible." No matter how much they might believe in being fiscally responsible, it's by their irresponsible actions that we know them. Witness the first decade of this century.

Even by including "strong military defense" in the same litany, they show that, in fact, they just want to pour money into another area controlled by vast governmental bureaucracies. The two parties have different priorities, but don't kid yourself that Republicans want to want their pennies. They want to spend taxpayers billions on wars -- and they have. And they've never managed to succeed in getting rid of Social Security or Medicare. George Bush big plan to "privatize" Social Security, had it passed, would have impoverished millions of older Americans, thanks to the financial meltdown -- also caused on Bush's watch (where no government oversight of Wall St functioned properly).

The Republicans are NOT the friend of the fiscally conservative, at least if we look at actual GOP administrations' records. If you still insist on believing the dusty old (and they are old, old, old) talking points, then go ahead. But it would be a better idea to think for yourself. Be a little bit honest and independent.

Posted by: cturtle1 | April 22, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

ablum1

My comment didn't bemoan that teachers have something we don't. I pointed out that teachers being treated the same as most Americans isn't an example of them being treated unfairly.

The bill isn't an attempt to redress their "special status". It's an attempt to improve educational outcomes. Preserving their special status is the reason most liberals are against the bill.

Posted by: mj13 | April 22, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

The GOP has become the Party of Public Relations. They can sell you any image of themselves their consultants dream up. Their public relations people are closely tied to Big Corporatism -- so they know advertising. What they don't know is truth-telling. They discovered through marketing principles that if they say the same words over and over, people will believe them. And if they can get an attractive candidate to say those words, it's even more effective.

But we all know that advertising is anything but reliable. Buyer beware! Look at the eight years of George Bush, for God's sake.

This is what Republicans seriously have to offer. Don't be fooled.

Posters here who have gone to pure emotion (whatever happened to reason and logic and fact?) are perfect dupes for Republican marketing. It's obvious to everyone but the emotional types that Cantor and Crowd are saying precisely NOTHING of substance, but wow, they are good at sticking to the script.

Think for yourselves, fellow Americans. Think before your write.

Posted by: cturtle1 | April 22, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

"Anyone with an attention span longer than ten minutes can read about how Republican administrations have not been "fiscally responsible."

Which is why Tea Party protests aren't Republican Party protests. The whole goal is to get actual fiscal conservatives instead of the slimy crap we have now. You seem to understand those who argue the Tea Partiers are Republicans in disguise are wrong. Maybe you whould address them.

"Even by including "strong military defense" in the same litany, they show that, in fact, they just want to pour money into another area controlled by vast governmental bureaucracies."

Just silly reducto ad absurdum. Some things have to be done by government. We object to having things done by government which can be done better privately.

Posted by: mj13 | April 22, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I see soul is a theological and philosophical term and it applies to human beings as well as the rest of the animal kingdom. A political party is neither. How can it have a soul?

Political parties are essentially the sum total of the human beings who support that party. If a majority of these people feel strongly about one side of an issue, the party will tend to follow that position. At present the Democrats lean toward liberal and the Republicans lean toward conservative. If you want to support that or change that, get involved in the party.

You wrote: "People want real and specific solutions to the nation's problems." I believe most of our problems have been caused by government intervention. The solution would be to back the government out of those interventions.

Posted by: herlick | April 22, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

To ask whether one party or the other has a "soul" is juvenile and illustrative of the Cliff Note quality of contemporary journalism. When the American people elected Barrack Obama President of the United States they HOPED and expected that he was going to CHANGE far more than just one political party for another. Instead he has let us all down by proving himself to be just another partisan player in a game whose importance is taken very seriously only by the players and the press. The rest of us regard their bysantine maneuvers as a trivial distraction from the serious business of the country. A soul? How can any party have a soul when so many of their members have lost theirs?

Posted by: cgale | April 22, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

mj13 @ April 22, 2010 9:01 AM: Temper, temper. Control it, otherwise you will continue to make no sense.

Posted by: AMviennaVA | April 22, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

My comment didn't bemoan that teachers have something we don't. I pointed out that teachers being treated the same as most Americans isn't an example of them being treated unfairly.

The bill isn't an attempt to redress their "special status". It's an attempt to improve educational outcomes. Preserving their special status is the reason most liberals are against the bill.

Posted by: mj13 |
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I do appreciate the verbal dexterity.

However, one could make the exact same argument for income re-distribution-- asking "the rich" to be treated the same as the rest of us isn't unfair, etc.
I doubt you would find that kind of argument appealing in a different context.
It certainly contradicts the sentiment of yours I quoted earlier... that we should worry about making everyone better off rather than worrying about whether there is somebody somewhere that has something that I don't.

Posted by: ablum1 | April 22, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

'Soul' is just a metaphor for social consciousness. What the Republican Party has is no social consciousness. Unless, and until, the GOP starts thinking beyond its' own very narrow interests advocated by drug addicts, perverts and demigogues, it will remain in an unconscious stupor and, again, not know what hit it when the mid-term and 2012 election cycle comes along.

Posted by: queenofromania | April 22, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

"However, one could make the exact same argument for income re-distribution-- asking "the rich" to be treated the same as the rest of us isn't unfair, etc"

They are being treated the same. Making more money than someone else isn't evidence of being treated differently in and of itself. Unequal outcomes are not proof of unequal treatment.

Posted by: mj13 | April 22, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

What happenned to the WaPo I knew and love? These comment boards (and the paper itself) have been taken over by right wingnuts. So sad.

Posted by: missgirl | April 22, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Bryan wrote: "I would very much rather be represented by an everyman like Sarah Palin or Scott Brown who have the interests of the country in their hearts..."

Please explain how Palin has the country's best interests in their heart? She quit as Governor when the going got a little tough and instead chose to line her pockets with millions of dollars donated by gullible Tea Party attendees.

She's looking out for one person....herself. To believe otherwise is simply ridiculous.

Posted by: steve-2304 | April 22, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

katem1; all,

btw, you are DEAD WRONG. - the Saddam regime DID have WMDs. TONS of them. ====> are you so IGNORANT that you don't KNOW that they KILLED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of UNarmed Iraqi civilians & Iranian soldiers with POISON GAS & BIOLOGICALS?
OR
are you just a LIAR, who HOPES that the other readers here are brain-DEAD?

fyi, my brother-in-law (a LTC in the US Army, who spent 3+ years in Iraq & is NOW stationed in Afghanistan) SAW the WMDs.

also, MSNBC had numerous PICTURES & VIDEOS of American GIs removing those WMDs from the depots in Iraq, a week after the initial invasion.===> are you DUMB enough to believe that MSNBC "created" those pictures to FOOL Americans?

yours, TN46

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Total nonsense. You must live in a dream world, or get your information from Texas history books.

Posted by: cjbass55 | April 22, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I live in a state where the Republican party has almost become a one-issue party and where it has become a party that kicks the heretics out. As I result, when asked their policical affiliation, most of my friends say, "I used to be a Republican." Notice that we are not newly minted Democrats, although we have elected several Democrats in recent years and will probably continue to do so as long as the Republicans ignore our concerns as they focus on their pet issue and cut taxes below the level that can adequately support satisfactory schools, univerisites, and roads. If you don't agree with the traditional Democratic Party vision for the country and the Republicans have made it clear that only those who can enter by their narrow gate are welcome, then no party represents your interests. Independence by choice is one decision; independency by abandonment is another.

Posted by: abbyandmollycats | April 22, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"She quit as Governor when the going got a little tough and instead chose to line her pockets with millions of dollars donated by gullible Tea Party attendees."

Making money in politics makes one's ideas suspect? I happen to agree. But I wonder if you apply this standard to the Clinton and Obama families, who have made millions from their political involvement. Or does having views you approve of insulate one from this suspicion?

Posted by: mj13 | April 22, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Capehart, I think the better question that gets at the heart of the matter is, "How do you reconcile your rhetoric ("small government, lower taxes and strong national defense") with your party's actions since Reagan?"

Posted by: abqcleve | April 22, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

The Democrat party has a soul. Its soul tells liberal politicians to confiscate as much of the money hard-working Americans earn and put it into government programs designed by community organizers to benefit the government workers who will administer the squandering of the money. The 1960's liberal War on Poverty saw billions of dollars go into Chicago, New York, Los Angeles - those dollars ended up creating people dependent on the government and completely reliant on the Democrat Party. 95% of blacks vote Democrat. Having a soul is also good for winning elections. No coincidence.

Posted by: mhr614 | April 22, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

bruno77: "The SOUL of the Republican Party is LINCOLN"

During Lincoln's time, Republicans were supported by northerners (including of course northeast "elites"), and stood for the following: expansion and solidification of federal power, expanded rights for black people and attempts to make amends for past inequality, imposition of an income tax, and federal spending investment in infrastructure for the country.

Do you recognize any of that in today's republican party?

Seems to me that today's largely white, southern-based, states' rights party has no claim to the party of Lincoln.

Posted by: jonstewart1 | April 22, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

If what the Democrats are doing is considered having a "soul" by Mr. Caphart, I'll do fine without one, thanks.

If having soul means leaving a legacy of debt for generations, mandating and restricting every class of human behavior and debilitating people to live off the hand outs of the government rather than stand on their on two feet--please--ban the soul.

The left wing of the Democratic party is the dope peddler of dependence and race baiting. It doesn't require "soul" to get sick of that in a hurry.

Posted by: Alvinjh | April 22, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Point 1: Sarah Palin was not elected to a national office. She was elected as governor of Alaska, and resigned mid-term. It is hard to believe that Sarah Palin is the "soul of the Republican Party."

Point 2: Scott Brown was elected to Senator of Massachusettes by independents. Even though GOP operatives claimed some "victory" over Democrats, that does not appear to be true.

Point 3: The GOP has tried for many years to brand itself as the party of small government/lower taxes/strong national defense. But it has not delivered on these promises.

Point 4: The current GOP strategy of opposing all things Democratic has soundly backfired. The Great Recession, the TARP program, and now excessive executive compensation reads like "organized crime" gone amok. GOP types cannot possibly believe they are protecting the wealthy class from "big government."

Point 5: The GOP has missed a grand opportunity to advance the "greening of America." By failing to even recognize the need for "greening" our daily activities, the GOP cannot claim any legacy for "saving energy" or "reducing carbon footprint." This shortsighted "strategy of denial" entirely misses the opportunity to create new industries, new jobs, and most importantly a sustainable lifestyle.

Conclusion: The GOP is a dead political party. It is unable to recognize the "new world" we all live in. It is unable to "learn from its mistakes." It cannot change its "branding."

Posted by: rmorris391 | April 22, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

TN46, I hope you wipe down your keyboard of all that spittle after you're finished typing out your ravings, and ravings they are. I suspect that you're an adolescent, 16 tops, and that you put your garbage on paper to make conservatives look like raving, ignorant psychopaths. Well, it works. Oh and by the way. I'm not a Democrat, Dimocrat, whatever you choose to call them. I've always been an Independent, as opposed to you who seems to be independently unstable.

Posted by: curtb | April 22, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

If you're 20 and you don't vote Democrat, you have no soul. If you're 40 and you don't vote Republican, you have no brain.

Posted by: shewholives | April 22, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

If you want to find the soul of the Republican party, read all the posts by those referring to the "Democrat" party. Bottom line...the Republican party has no soul, kind of like the mindless zombies in "Night Of The Livinig Dead".

Posted by: 20steveltd | April 22, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"For the last 40-plus years we had a ‘Southern Strategy’ that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South."

-Michael Steele, speaking at DePaul University on Tuesday (from The Plum Line)

Posted by: TheDukeStir1 | April 22, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

However, one could make the exact same argument for income re-distribution-- asking "the rich" to be treated the same as the rest of us isn't unfair, etc"

They are being treated the same. Making more money than someone else isn't evidence of being treated differently in and of itself. Unequal outcomes are not proof of unequal treatment
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It is certainly true that if profession A receives a higher salary than profession B, that that is not evidence of unfairness.

I would contend that if one of the benefits of profession C is increased job security-- when compared to profession D-- that that too is not evidence of unfairness. It needs to be corrected no more than an income disparity.

Posted by: ablum1 | April 22, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have sold their conservative souls and become populists.

Wrapping yourself in the American flag, being discourteous to the sitting President and turning your life into a self promoting book tour should be neither a conservative nor a Republican pattern of behavior. Modesty, duty, integrity, work ethic and compassion are behavior that a conservative soul should exhibit.

Posted by: MHawke | April 22, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

also, MSNBC had numerous PICTURES & VIDEOS of American GIs removing those WMDs from the depots in Iraq, a week after the initial invasion.===> are you DUMB enough to believe that MSNBC "created" those pictures to FOOL Americans?

yours, TN46

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Hey Tex: Do you mean to say the we found WMDs in Iraq and Cheney didn't do the talk show cicuit to prove he was correct? Sit back and ask yourself what the chances of that happening are?

Posted by: bob29 | April 22, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

There's one phrase that sums up the tea party movement....Sore Losers.

Posted by: andyg37 | April 22, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

New Political Party.

Not Democrat, Not Republican, Not Independent.

It's called the "P*SSED OFF PARTY" (or POP).

This party is dedicated to vote every incumbent out of office in the next elections.

If you're Democrat, vote Democrat. Just don't vote for the incumbent.

If you're Republican, vote Republican. Just don't vote for the incumbent.

We need to send a message to all politicians, that we're tired of their B.S.
If the country votes out all the incumbents, the new incoming politicians will get the message.
It's pretty simple. Nobody needs to change parties but be honest, there's plenty of blame to spread around.

A few good politicians will lose their job but they probably have better retirement and insurance then 95% of the American public.

You've had to struggle for the last 5 years.. Some of you have lost your job and may be working in some other sector just to feed your family.

I guarantee you, none of them will suffer like this country has.
If you like what's going on and think this is a bad idea, DO Nothing...
But if you're fed up and think this is a good idea, pass this information on.

This should be read and understood by all Americans

Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!!

Posted by: Deana1 | April 22, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

So, Steve Schmidt doesn’t think political parties have souls? Sure they do Steve, You can find them in the parties' platform, the collective wisdom of their leaders, and their history of true service to the welfare American people. By these criteria, the soul of the Republican party can be found at your local sewage treatment plant.

Posted by: irkulyen | April 22, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

ablum1

You would be right if these exchanges were made freely between those paying and the teachers. But they aren't. Teachers work conditions are set in exchange for votes, donations, and volunteers.

We're not advocating "correcting" benefits. We're advocating improved educational outcomes. In response you're defending the status quo by pretending the lack of virtually 100% job security is unconscionable, despite the simple fact that most Americans work under these circumstances their entire lives.

Posted by: mj13 | April 22, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I must disagree with one post.
I was a Republican when I was young because I thought that all Americans could be self reliant. Now that I'm old I'm a Democrat because I see that the wealthiest Americans (Gates and Buffet excepted) don't care about the rest of the people and only want lower taxes to buy their German made cars.Maybe a political party has no soul but it sure seems that the Republicans have no heart. When you try to block every bit of legislation that can help people you aren't a political party. You are just obstrucionists. Maybe instead of the Tea Party, they should be called the No Party.
I am ashamed, as a jew, with Eric Cantor who is heartless. I believe if Barry Goldwater was alive today, he would switch parties and join the Democrats. He was a conservative with a concience. I can't say that about Boehner or Palin or the rest of the GOP leadership.

Posted by: msjn1 | April 22, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I'd kind of like to hear what the Republican party is willing to have the government pay for. There is all this talk of getting government out of the way - what is their take on what government is supposed to provide? What are they willing to pay their tax dollars for?

All this tax cutting is leaving the roads and the bridges, not to mention the schools, the emergency services and a whole lot of other things we take for granted woefully underfunded.

I love the sales pitch for the tax cutters - keep your money in your pocket. So the roads, the schools, the fire department, and the police are less important than your retirement account, the bigger car, or the big-screen TV? After you've had your public education and while you live in your nice secure community?

Fine then, but own up to your real identity. You're no patriot - you're an ungrateful greedy bastard.

Posted by: Rozinante2 | April 22, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Mr Capehart, You're so fast to say that the Republican Party has no soul. You mention "empty promises" and chants, yet YOUR guy Barack Obama, fooled the whole country by just chanting "YES WE CAN". Oh he did alright! He managed in just 14 months to lead his party on the brink of self-destruction, and he helped to jam the health care monstrosity down the throats of the unwilling American People. If a man does that to an unwilling woman, it's called RAPE, but of course, we're dealing with a double set of standards.

I'm not particularly thrilled with the Republican Party, but the only way to stop this Obama Freight Train from crashing, is to vote Republican this year, to send the ARROGANT, NON RESPONSIVE, DEMOCRATS A MESSAGE!!

WE'LL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!

Posted by: barrysal | April 22, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Republicans do have souls, just no consciences.

Posted by: JMJHU | April 22, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I read this morning that bank employee's wages have gone up over 9% last year. How's that make all you so-called party of Lincoln republicans feel? As an independent who voted for Reagan both times and Bush the first time, I don't like all the excess spending either, but the idea that cutting taxes is going to solve every problem under the sun is simply foolish. Am I the only one who has their stomach churn when they hear "talking points," or is the disease spreading?

Posted by: Fergie303 | April 22, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

"When you try to block every bit of legislation that can help people you aren't a political party."

This just shows you aren't serious. Republicans have a different view of what helps. We support economic growth. Democratic policies which "help people" also take away jobs and ensure everything is more expensive, so the money you have doesn't go as far. In particular the compounding effect of differences in growth mean your policies condemn large numbers of future generations to poverty who would otherwise move up the economic ladder. Characterizing this as being against policies which help people shows you're so dependent on Democratic Party propoganda you can't possibly understand the issues.

Posted by: mj13 | April 22, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

texasnative46,

You are right. Iraq had WMDs. But they weren't hi-tech mobile labs, and they weren't new weapons.

Our soldiers have been finding the weapons that we made Iraq destroy from the 80's and some leftover that we sold Saddam in the 90's.

We will continue to find these outdated weapons. But the existence of outdated weapons was not the intel we were fed by Bush and Cheney. They told us that Saddam had a current program and that it was capable of launching attacks on US soil, and that it was more dangerous than Iran's program. None of that was true.

I know because my cousin defuses all the leftovers and any other IEDs they come across.

Posted by: pathfinder12 | April 22, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

the Republican Party's soul was sold to Beelzebub by Lee Atwater

Posted by: teoc2 | April 22, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

The anger in America is real, palpable and, in the case of those worried about exploding deficits and the size of government, justified. Reiterating the Republican 101 mantra of cutting taxes and spurring job growth is not enough. People want real and specific solutions to the nation's problems. A party with a soul -- or at least some ideas to bat around that aren't rooted in short-term political gain -- would have something more to offer.

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That's pretty rich coming from Careheart, someone who will never vote for a Republican in a million years.

The GOP will likely gain a bunch of seats in 2010. I will agree with Capeheart on one thing-the GOP does have some ideas, and if they can put together a platform it's not inconceivable that they can win majorities in both chambers of Congress.

Posted by: bbface21 | April 22, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

The Republican party has a Christian Fundamentalist base, but it has no soul. Wow, that is a problem.

Posted by: dudh | April 22, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

"The soul of the Democrat party resides within the tomb of Karl Marx. Democrats keep it locked up when they are out of power so people cannot see them for what they are."

I'm sorry, battleground 51, could you refresh my memory on who Karl Marx was and what Marxism is? I'm a little foggy on how this applies to our current government.

Posted by: tectech | April 22, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

"All this tax cutting is leaving the roads and the bridges, not to mention the schools, the emergency services and a whole lot of other things we take for granted woefully underfunded."

First, these items are not underfunded, much less "woefully underfunded". They are underperforming. Take education for example. Above a certain amount there is no correlation between performance and funding. The last time I saw a report all but two states were above this number. So why do Democrats insist on believing that funding is the problem?

Second, if you believe more funding should go to schools why do you support a government that wastes funds it could be spending on those items on every stupid idea it can find? Do we need more retired education bureaucrats making 15k per MONTH in retirement? If you think we need more teachers (or whatever) why isn't eliminating this BS a priority?

And yet another person who believes those with different ideas or priorities are not patriotic. Ah, I miss the good old days when liberals claimed to believe that questioning one's patriotism was out of bounds.

Posted by: mj13 | April 22, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

This Article should have been titled, "DNC Lapdog Barks at Republicans." He is definitely not a journalist since he is using all of the DNC talking points for his hit piece.

Posted by: DL13 | April 22, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

capheart's "analysis" is laughable. considering he is talking about a coutnry that hired a guy because of his skin tone and because he can read of teleprompter and make a million promises that even he knows are never gonna come true.

where are those 4 million jobs the stimulus was supposed to create? we've LOST millions of jobs since it was passed.

obama just paid off unions and the green "energy" lobby. with OUR money. talk about short-term political gain. obama is gonna get wacked in the november elections.

Posted by: dummypants | April 22, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

This article is nothing more than liberal Democratic nonsense.All hype and spin without a valid argument.Democrats can't stand the fact that the American voters have figured them out and they do not like what they see.Congress will fall in the Nov 2010 elections and Obama will follow in 2012.Good riddance to both.

Posted by: fcs25 | April 22, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

"When I began to read bryanmcoleman's post, I thought that he was an intelligent, rationale conservative presenting his positions in a responsible manner. That was before I got to "Comrade Obama" "the mindless thug mentality of the Democratic Party" and "con men like Barack Obama..."
Alas, he reveals himself to be just another right winger who can't express himself without hurling insults and name calling. Too bad."

Thank you, colton. What passes for argument and debate in this country is deplorable. It's unfortunate that critical thinking classes are not mandatory in our schools. Name calling, ad hominem abuse, and parroting does not an argument make.

Posted by: tectech | April 22, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"I read this morning that bank employee's wages have gone up over 9% last year. How's that make all you so-called party of Lincoln republicans feel?"

It depends on why.

If they're making additional money by attracting more business that's fine. In that case they're obviously offering something that consumers find valuable enough to pay for.

If they're making more money because the feds agreed to guarantee their debt which in turn reduces their interest expense that's crap. The solution isn't to limit their earnings though, it's to not guarantee their debt.

Posted by: mj13 | April 22, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are scum.

Posted by: daweeni | April 22, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

We see in Arizona Republicans duplicating the laws of the Nazi's. Now, even a Jew can be picked up in Arizona for no reason other than they are a Jew.

And naturally, the Democrats don't say boo.

On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the worst I'd give national Democrats a 10 as they are in charge and I'd give Republicans a 9 being they are not in charge.

Posted by: Maddogg | April 22, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

battleground51,
Please, keep running and take all those who think like you with them. The more crazy you are, the better for the nation.

Posted by: KJR1 | April 22, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are such morons! You don't decide who the OTHER party's "soul" is, you fools. You can't even decide on your own. I think this is a big reason republicans are so terrible at governing. They make up their opposition, so they don't ever deal with reality.

Posted by: benandpogo | April 22, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Jonathan, i have to disagree with you. Only a party with no soul would assume it can take care of everything. A party of soul realizes the strength in the people and realizes the impulse of change by those living though it can not be legislated into submission. I would also venture to say that a party with soul will wait till the appropriate moment to culminate its energy in the person best suited, at the time, to offer guidance but not shackles when looking for ways to motivate a nation. I know its a big scary thing going it without proscribed titular heads but it could be worse - you could have a titular head who makes the worse appear the better and everyone believing it.

Posted by: Lynne5 | April 22, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

dummypants,

Actually, what did Obama promise? Health Care reform, drawing down troops in Iraq, refocusing efforts against terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan, helping change the economy around, better rights for gays, and financial reform.

What has he started to work on or gotten bills on? Health Care reform, drawing down troops in Iraq,, refocusing efforts in Afghanistan and Pakistan, changing the economy for the better, better rights for gays, and financial reform.

So for a first year, I'd say he's really accomplished a lot, especially considering the mess he was left with.

Posted by: pathfinder12 | April 22, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

The GOP will start taking advice from Jonathan Capehart as soon as MSNBC starts taking advice from Glenn Beck.

Posted by: KMB3 | April 22, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Bob29;pathfinder12; all,

actually i'll trust my brother-in-law Frank over the DIMWITS, Bush-HATERS, morons & damn-fools that denied the WMDs were THERE by the TONS, when US & coalition forces invaded Iraq, especially after the PICTURES of US GIs removing them were shown on MSNBC. those WMDs wwere the SAME sort of weapons that the NATO forces have & theirs are no more obsolete than the ones that the US armed forces possesss as i write these lines.

what BOTH of you are trying (WITHOUT SUCCESS, btw) is to "cover up for" the LIARS in the American/international LEFT & for the DIMocRATS who KNEW:
1. precisely what was FOUND,
2. what DISPOSITION was made of those weapons
AND
3. they also KNEW that the Saddam administration was (at a MAXIMUM - perhaps it was 6 months away from ) within of having a REALLY DIRTY nuclear bomb.
(that DIRTY BOMB would, according to Frank, have been quite CRUDE but HORRIBLY EFFECTIVE at killing HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people.)

so, NO, i'm NOT going to let you get away with "covering up" THE TRUTH, that the DIMocRATS & the lunatic Bush-HATERS KNOWINGLY LIED about the WMDs in Iraq "to make political points" with an ignorant public.

what Frank says is the UN-varnished TRUTH.= he SAW the WMDs & they were "mobile" in the same sense that an 18 wheeler w/semi-trailer is "mobile".

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 22, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

To completely understand the complexity of the "Conservative" political mind, all one has to do is understand the device which they base their logic & understanding upon. Rather than tell you in depth about the device let me instead provide the clearest & simplest example.
Nothing is better than good law & legislation.
A Republican sponsored bill is better than nothing.
Therefore, a Republican sponsored bill is better than good law & legislation.

This explains the "One shoe nailed to the floor" behavior when it comes to the reasoning abilities displayed by the typical AM Radio addicted, knee-jerk-lemming denialists who act as a constant impediment to forward social & legal progress in this nation.
It amazes me that their fellow circular path heroes, Boehner, McConnel & McCain never suffer motion sickness from their ever spiraling tighter hyperbole.


For more than 2 decades the official retort of Conservative Extremists was..
"America...Love it or Leave it!" followed closely by the crutch "My country, right or wrong"
Now those same aging extremists & their lemming minions have forgotten both in favor of, "I want MY country back" & "Fewer laws, government & taxes".
The "Nirvana" of this radical & overly vocal minority of old white folks exists in Somalia where there is NO government, NO taxes, NO laws or law enforcement and best of all land is frre for the taking by force and guns are part of the daily dress code, no winters, no social programs and plenty of Military & Political figureheads to fawn over, name to state positions for life and where an activist Judge today is a dead Judge tomorrow!
The ConEx'ers either haven't discover their future example of heaven or they have and haven't the guts or ammunition to carry out their original doctrine,
You either LOVE America, follow the law, work to improve it & leave it better than when you arrived...or you LEAVE it, to those whose goal is to provide more, more than when they arrived and MORE than ANY country in the world does for IT'S citizens.
UNTIL the benefits here equal or exceed those of our contemporaries we are not and cannot claim to be the best OR the brightest, let alone "Christian" or moral.

Posted by: misterfids | April 23, 2010 1:59 AM | Report abuse

"The "Nirvana" of this radical & overly vocal minority of old white folks exists in Somalia where there is NO government, NO taxes, NO laws or law enforcement"

When you're reduced to pretending this is what those who disagree with you desire you should recognize you have no understanding of anything.

Posted by: mj13 | April 23, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

misterfids,


are you REALLY clue-LESS & IGNORANT to believe ANY of that SILLY BILGE & MORONIC nonsense, that you posted, above?

if yoy ARE that brain-DEAD, i truly PITY you.
(it's not nice to "make sport of" mental defectives.)

btw, your village called; they're looking for their IDIOT.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 24, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

to ALL,

the MORE i learn about BHO, DIMocRATS, LIBs, "progressives" & LEFTISTS of all sorts, the BETTER i like scorpions, poisonous snakes, slugs, fire ants, cockroaches & venomous spiders.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 24, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

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