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The Tea Party's moment of truth

On “Meet the Press” yesterday, David Gregory asked Marsha Blackburn, a very Republican congresswoman from Tennessee, whether she approved of Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) referring to the Obama administration as “this gangster government.” Blackburn had just finished telling Gregory that the Tea Party is wonderful because it’s about truth: “What they want is leaders who are going to say, ‘Look, we’re –you may not agree with us, we’re going to tell you the truth. We’re going to tell you we’re we stand.’”

So where did Blackburn stand on Bachmann’s remark, made at a Tea Party rally? “Are those views that you would stand behind? That kind of rhetoric?” Gregory wanted to know. In other words, is the United States of America like Venezuela or Cuba, or Syria or Belarus? Or was this another example of extremely tasteless rhetoric, an incredibly un-Tea Partyish lie uttered by a politician who had contempt -- utter contempt, if I can editorialize -- for her audience?

I held my breath: This threatened to be a moment of truth, candor and nearly unprecedented boldness. But Blackburn was in a bit of a fix. After all, conservatives have been on a bender of Shavian wit lately: “You lie!” “Baby killer!” Not to mention the allegation that Barack Obama is a socialist -- or, as Newt Gingrich and Jim Garlow phrased it in a recent Washington Post op-ed, that Christian conservatives are up against “a secular-socialist culture,” which is as close as I would like to come, thank you, to a Godless-Menshevik culture of the sort found on the Upper West Side of New York. Still, while the culture is abhorrent, the bagels are pretty good.

Ah, but I digress. We must get back to “Guts Ball” Blackburn, as she will henceforth be known. Did she agree? Did she approve? Gangster government? Rat-a-tat-at?

“You know, I choose a different rhetoric,” Blackburn said. But that was not what Gregory asked, and he said so. “Wait, but one sec -- is that over the line?...”

“That was very --”

“Is that over the line?”

The congresswoman from truth, from candor, from telling people where she stood, summoned all her political courage and said, “Those -- those are the words that she chose and the statements that she made.”

Pathetic.

By Richard Cohen  | April 19, 2010; 9:59 AM ET
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Pathetic says it all, doesn't it? I guess congresspeople really do live in another world. With the public's, especially independents, disgust with both parties, it's simply amazing that someone can be so gutless that she/he can't tell it like it is. I also wonder about their overall intelligence. Do you party folks really think that your base will always be able to elect you without the independent vote? Your time will come. Even some of your base doesn't respect a wimp who's afraid to state the obvious.

Posted by: Fergie303 | April 19, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

This is an example of the problem in politics today, politicians all lack the courage of their convictions. How Americans trust government when no one can call like it is. The problem is that the true "Tea Party" member has no one that they can truly trust. Everyone is trying to ride the movement for the own advantage. Politics as usual. What a sad commentary on America.

Posted by: enr1025 | April 19, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

This is an example of the problem in politics today, politicians all lack the courage of their convictions. How Americans trust government when no one can call like it is. The problem is that the true "Tea Party" member has no one that they can truly trust. Everyone is trying to ride the movement for the own advantage. Politics as usual. What a sad commentary on America.

Posted by: enr1025 | April 19, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

These two woman should not keep their day jobs.

Posted by: hoser3 | April 19, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Why has no one made the obvious connection that if Michelle Bachmann truely believes that the Obama administration is a "gangster goverment" then she and her Tea Party must believe that Americans are an outlaw people because we're the ones who voted for him.

For a populist movement that pretends to be the champion of the common people, Michelle Bachmann's tea partiers don't seem to have much respect for the Real America that actually turns out to vote -- instead of the imagined America that gets all its news and opinions from Fox News.

Blackburn's comments are just added reinforcement that the GOP is composed of either cowards or fools -- either they agree with Bachmann and her madness about the illegitimacy of a democratically elected government, or they are prisoners of her insanity, and sedition, and can do nothing to stop her, and those like her.

Posted by: TedFrier | April 19, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

to all,

actually it will be the LYING, EXTREMIST DIMocRATS of BOTH houses of Congress, who will be "seeking different employment" came Nov 2010!

the FUNNY part about the coming LANDSLIDE of DIMocRAT LOSES is that the DIMs did it to themselves. - the wimpy GOP had nothing to do with the DIMocRATS passing "healthcare reform" against the wishes of TWO THIRDS of the voters & the DIMs will be PUNISHED on the coming Election DAYS, by losing BOTH houses of Congress AND "the puppet of the clue-LESS left", BHO, will also lose in 2012!

WE THE PEOPLE will neither FORGIVE OR FORGET = the DIMocRATS are DONE as a major party.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 19, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Easy there TN46. Maybe you should take the next few plays off...

Posted by: scott032 | April 19, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I think it's time to take your meds, texasnative46.

Posted by: stephenlouis | April 19, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

TN46...save your breath. You'll need it to blow up your girlfriend.

Posted by: AHappyWarrior | April 19, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Yep. Pathetic, indeed.

Posted by: jpost2000 | April 19, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse


Perfect...

NT46 is a "texas native"...part of the dumb,fat, mouth-off succession group, undoubtedly. Can't you just see him?

But he'd better be careful. It's me mine and 70% lf the populace he's 'coming after', and as me and mine vote, obey the law and are good citizens,

We're in no mood for him. No mood.

Posted by: whistling | April 19, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Barry Obama is an (admitted) junkie. OK, claims to be ex-junkie. In afghanistan he, Barry, is DELIBERATLY & KNOWINGLY playing footsie with the drug gowers/traffickers. Millions of US lives have been drug-ruined. Barry knows that. Barry, also, like George before him, doesn't sel the Mexico border. Is Barry a gangster? I don't know. Then again, if it quacks like a duck...

Posted by: craigslsst | April 19, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Gregory's question was illegimate... the type of question the media like to ask in order to divide.

I am not a fan of the "Tea Party" nor of either of these politicians but it is NEVER the job of one politician to "approve" of the words of another.

Gregory knew that but tried to ask a trap question. Trap questions are always illegitimate... an attempt by the media to make the knews rather than report it.

And the answer was absolutely correct... the words were Bachmanns' and Blackburn would have chosen different rhetoric.

That is the correct answer to ANY question asking whether you approve of another politician's comments.

Posted by: drbill21 | April 19, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I don’t think Sarah Palin and the Tea Baggers has the good sense God gave green apples.

Posted by: lindarc | April 19, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

If I had been in her shoes being asked this question by David Gregory, I would call this kind of rhetoric out of line. However, I would also consider Pelosi's rhetoric out of line associating health care protesters with Nazis by saying they are carrying swastikas on their arms.
Can we apply David's question to Ms. Pelosi at the time she made her accusation?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGRUx2b0ArM

It's not helpful in a debate to engage in the name calling or making false associations with bad guys from the past.

That said, why are the Tea Party supporters the only ones being called out on their rhetoric? What's good for the goose is good for the gander...

Posted by: sauron | April 19, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

This is example number one million, billion, gazillion that politicians will say anything to appeal to a crowd rather than their convictions. Sorry, I misunderestimated that misoverrepresentation of politicians. The convictions of a politician are determined by who wrote the biggest check that day. The truth in politics goes to the highest bidder, and we Americans let that slide by not holding politicians accountable to their campaign promises.

Posted by: citizen4truth1 | April 19, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

drbill21 @ April 19, 2010 1:28 PM wrote "Gregory's question was illegimate... the type of question the media like to ask in order to divide."

In what way? There is an adult who says complimentary things about a movement. It is perfectly legitimate to question whether this adult agrees with all positions of the movement; and if not, to clarify where disagreements exist. Afterall, we are talking about adults here.

If this Congresswoman cannot express disagreement with what Bachmann said, it is because she agrees with it, but lacks the honesty to say so.

That applies to the rest of the Tea Partiers, by the way. If you are an adult, you are responsible for what you say, for what you do, and for what you keep quiet about and therefore tolerate.

Posted by: AMviennaVA | April 19, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse


Is Cohen WISE

In mentining, even in passing the "godless
MENSHEVIK types" on the upper east side in New York? (the bagels are good, he says)...

in bringing out the little secrets and whirlpool of NY Jews talking about how to take over NY, the US, and then out into the world...

as they did in Russia? Does their zionist plotting never stop?

There's the very popular song in Israel, that dominated the radio for months called "First We Take New York."

If Goldman is taken down, as it should be, perhaps that'll slow down a little the
plans of those who plot, always, in every century, everywhere.

Posted by: whistling | April 19, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

sauron @ April 19, 2010 1:34 PM wrote "That said, why are the Tea Party supporters the only ones being called out on their rhetoric? What's good for the goose is good for the gander...".

I disagree that the Tea Partiers are the only ones being held accountable. Most important, remember that Bachmann and Blackburn are not run-of-the-mill protesters. They are among the leadership. They are whom the Tea Partiers are following.

You also posted "I would call this kind of rhetoric out of line.". Actually, my words are far stronger than 'out of line'. The democratically elected government is not a bunch of gangsters. Unless you want to overthrow the democratically elected government.

Posted by: AMviennaVA | April 19, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Oh my goodness, the sky is falling because Bachmann said Obama is running a "gangster government".

Where was the outrage when the left constantly called Bush a "war criminal"? Where was the outrage when a movie was made glorifying the assasination of Bush? What about all the liberal protestors waving signs of Bush and the swastika?

Grow up: there is hatred on both the left and the right.

Posted by: princeps2 | April 19, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

princeps2 @ April 19, 2010 1:53 PM: To be sue many on the left called Bush a war criminal. Every grup and crowd has its nuts. However, since Bachmann is a Congressperson, and part of the Republican leadership, and a spokesperson of the Tea Partiers: please point me to a Democratic Congressperson who called Bush a gangster or war criminal at a Democratic event.

There is a trememndous difference between what some nut(s) say, and what a (responsible!) political leader says. Don't you agree?

Posted by: AMviennaVA | April 19, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

"Grow up: there is hatred on both the left and the right."


So what, we have to put up with hatred on the right now too? Somehow their hatred is justified because the left hated Bush?

Liberal hatred is dilettante hatred, they aren't even good at it - they aren't religious enough to have the kind of deep, passionate hatred the rightwing nutjobs possess.

Neither is worth our time, but you whackoes who forgive the right wing hatred, indeed encourage it - do you know what you're doing?

Touched you last, that's all I'm hearing from you juveniles.

Posted by: barferio | April 19, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Let's remember that, for all the inflated rhetoric, the Tea Party is making some legitimate criticisms of the Obama administration. I don't particularly like the way they do it (either their rhetoric, or the way they assume anyone who disagrees with them is unpatriotic), but I also disliked the methods of several groups that protested the Bush administration (Code Pink, among others - fake blood in Congressional hearings was way over the line).

So long as we can keep the actual crazies in check - like that nutcase who flew a PLANE INTO THE IRS, for crying out loud - I don't care what they call Obama, Pelosi, Reid or the Democrats. Political discord is often ugly, but so long as it doesn't become violent, it's still healthy. If calling Obama "the gangster administration" will keep the Tea Party from assaulting the Democrats, I would take it and move on.

Posted by: haldon12 | April 19, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

"Pathetic" seems to describe the GOP Congress men and women to a tee nowadays. Blackburn's dance around the question is living proof of their fear of Tea Party.

Posted by: lddoyle2002 | April 19, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

What's truly "pathetic" are the attempts by the mainstream media to play "gotcha" journalism and toss out questions that are designed solely to get one conservative on tape criticizing another conservative ... fortunately for the future of our country and our freedoms, the people have seen through the trcisk of Big journalism and Big Government and are turning against both--that's why the tradiitonal TV networks and the Democratic Party's chances in November are declining so precipitously.

Posted by: ToughChoices | April 19, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

What's truly "pathetic" are the attempts by the mainstream media to play "gotcha" journalism and toss out questions that are designed solely to get one conservative on tape criticizing another conservative ... fortunately for the future of our country and our freedoms, the people have seen through the tricks of Big Media and Big Government and are turning against both--that's why the traditional TV networks and the Democratic Party's chances in November are declining so precipitously. (And for the record, I suspect the "gangster government" line refers less to a Hugo Chavez-style dictatorship and more to Obama's Chicago-style political thuggery in trying to force his unpopular proposals down our throats ... it's a coloful metaphor, nothing more.)

Posted by: ToughChoices | April 19, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I agree, Mr Cohen. Pathetic! And as a woman I am embarrassed that the shrillest voices are out there are not only women, but women who have complete disregard for the truth and who pander their opinion as facts without being held accountable. An elected official like Bachman should know better.

Posted by: Jose5 | April 19, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Cohen,

"Guts Ball Blackburn?" "Pathetic?"

David Gregory's questions smacks of typical vaudevillian journalistic antics such as those employed in Presidential races like "Name the Prime Minister of Tajikistan" or "When was the Department of Energy formed?" Blackburn, if she was a bit brighter, might have opined that given the fact the current administration shoved the health care bill down the throats of Americans, that was not unlike the iron hand leadership style of a famous Chicago gangster such as Al Capone. She could have demured that she wouldn't have called the crack-management team in the White House 'gangsters' but the analogy was closer to the truth than not.

So you decided to harangue the Honorable Ms. Blackburn by calling her names and making a cheap accusation of a moment of truth fumble. It appears you and Mr. Dionne decided to stir the pot today with the Tea Party and garnish some attention. Push the Conservatives around a bit and watch as they seethe with anger at your malevolent prose. Not me cupcake. Your unprofessional attempt at fomenting rebellion won't work.

I believe, Mr. Cohen, that you inaccurately believe you are a man of the people, but possesed of a higher knowledge. My take is that you aren't a man at all - just another forgettable journalist lobbing verbal hand grenades from the shadows. Political courage you called into question? What do you know about courage?

Posted by: pararanger22 | April 19, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

You want to know what was really pathetic about D. Gregory's singleminded quest to wring the answer he wanted from Marsha Blackburn? It's the difference between the manner in which he singlemindedly pursued her and the way he lets people like David Axlegrease and Rahm Amanuensis slither off the hook once he has made their point for them. This kind of poop passes for journalism? Meet the Press hasn't been the same since we lost Tim Russert, God rest his soul.

Posted by: Katzenjammer1 | April 19, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Ah, the gangsterism of a freely elected president who sailed in by a landslide. He is what the people wanted and he is still who the people prefer over the alternative. Bachmann is taking a page from her fellow Minnesotan McCarthy's book, and it is likely to send her into the same ignomy he rets in. Mealy-mouthed apologists for such hateful rhetoric, like Blackburn, will not go down into history as heroes either.

Posted by: wd1214 | April 19, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

ToughChoices @ April 19, 2010 2:29 PM wrote "I suspect the "gangster government" line refers less to a Hugo Chavez-style dictatorship and more to Obama's Chicago-style political thuggery in trying to force his unpopular proposals down our throats ... it's a coloful metaphor, nothing more."

Yes, it is truly terrible that:

1. Obama won the popular vote;
2. Obama won the electoral college vote (instead of being appointed by a Court);
3. One of Obama's positions during the year-long campaign was health care reform;
4. Health care was debated in the open since March of last year;
5. Health care was debated in Congress starting in June of last year;
6. Health care passed the House;
7. Health care passed the Senate with 60 votes out of 100.

It is truly pure gangsterism that such things can happen! Imagine that, a politician who actually followed through on a campaign promise! It is truly the end of the world and all creation!

Posted by: AMviennaVA | April 19, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I too, Mr. Cohen, was watching her, with the same abated breath as you-and I nearly
squealed with joy as I watched her squirm, and grin, (that sickening cheshire grin that Bushy taught the worshipers so well), and search desperately for the RIGHT words to answer the question. She absolutely could not
answer it with the correct answer, so she chose the RIGHT answer, a tactic they are all so adept at. It is so anticipatory,
just amazes me how stupid the RIGHT answers always are. She cannot, and neither can any other repukithug, discuss this issue truthfully, because they are at the bottom of it all. It is nothing
more than one more, in the long line, of
lying, deceptive creations of these spiteful poor losers. The thing that leaves me aghast is, they do not get it that they LOST, in 06', and 08', for the
very reasons they insist on flagrantly perpetrating. Stupid is as stupid does I guess.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | April 19, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Barry Obama is an (admitted) junkie. OK, claims to be ex-junkie. In afghanistan he, Barry, is DELIBERATLY & KNOWINGLY playing footsie with the drug gowers/traffickers. Millions of US lives have been drug-ruined. Barry knows that. Barry, also, like George before him, doesn't sel the Mexico border. Is Barry a gangster? I don't know. Then again, if it quacks like a duck...
*******************************************
You're a complete loonie-toon. Well, I guess you are sane enough to see the fortunes of your "Hate-Obama" movement sinking like a rock. "Gangster" seems to be the latest epithet of choice for the desperate rescue attempt. Typical ditto-ism. But wait! Look who's carrying the guns. This IS confusing.

Posted by: st50taw | April 19, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

" Newt Gingrich and Jim Garlow... phrased it in a recent Washington Post op-ed, that Christian conservatives are up against “a secular-socialist culture, which is as close as I would like to come, thank you, to a Godless-Menshevik culture of the sort found on the Upper West Side of New York. Still, while the culture is abhorrent, the bagels are pretty good."

It sounds as though these folks have been shmeared!

Posted by: Jeff-for-progress | April 19, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Dear Whistling, It seems that the whistling sound is due to the holes in your head, the breeze blowing through said holes and all of the birds chirping in your head. It astounds me to no end the worry you have concerning the worlds's population of Jews. Amazing that out of 6 billion people, you feel that 12 million Jews control the world. 5.5 million are in Israel and 5.5 million in the US, that is 80% of the world's Jewish population (Hitler did quite a good job of extermination, but only got half of us). In Russia, to pick a country you named, there are about 141 million people and 228,000 Jews that have been blacklisted, held in jail or gulags or Siberia and according to you, control Russia and the rest of the world.

You sir are a bigot and a fool and fortunately you let the world know every time you express a thought . Thank you for being so open so we can spot you so easily as you keep whistling Dixie>

Posted by: optodoc | April 19, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

What did you expect? Of course she is going to evade the question since the majority of her right winged neanderthal constituents probably agree wholeheartedly with this nonsense. She isn't about to antagonize them and invite a challenge from the right. The gentle congresswoman and her ilk are all salivating at the possibility that the Republicans will take control of the House in November. Since they have largely purged their party of moderates, it should be quite a horror show when Bachmann and company start setting the agenda. Obama better dust off his veto pen - it is going to be a rough ride.

Posted by: da55 | April 19, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Whatever Cohen. Whatever. You don't care one wit about truth or the people in the tea party. You just care about your leftist/democratic march to socialism. This whole campaign is designed to get the Democratic Party's chestnuts out of the fire by November. Its just a low level hatchet job. This is your life in journalism. Congrats!

Posted by: scott3 | April 19, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

The left may have criticized Bush, but I don't recall any of the Bush critics showing up with loaded pistols. Also, it was obvious Marsha Blackburn didn't want to answer a simple question on Meet The Press about the views of her fellow Congresswoman and Tea Party supporter. It's "Meet The Press," not "Tea-time With The Girls." There will be some tough questions. Marsha tapdanced as fast as she could before issuing the standard no-comment comment.

Posted by: TX12345 | April 19, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Whatever Cohen. Whatever. You don't care one wit about truth or the people in the tea party. You just care about your leftist/democratic march to socialism. This whole campaign is designed to get the Democratic Party's chestnuts out of the fire by November. Its just a low level hatchet job. This is your life in journalism. Congrats!

Posted by: scott3 | April 19, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I suddenly realized something astounding.
I cannot believe that I did not realize it before. From the heightened incitement of the tea bageer movement, it is really obvious that a repukithug can be fooled, duped, cheated, deceived, double-dealed, tricked, led down the perverbial garden path, and off the perverbial cliff, and STILL KEEP THE BLINDERS ON, AND KEEP UP THE OBEYANCE, AND ALLOW THESE PERPETRATORS
TO SUMMY THEM DOWN. It truly is remarkable,
and so very sad.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | April 19, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I look forward with delighted anticipation to the day Michele Bachmann is removed from office. Denied a platform from which to exercise her big, crazy mouth, she will wither like a vampire in the sunlight.

Then again, Fox News would doubtless welcome her as a political commenter. She'd be able to squall her core-deep nuttiness without even the vestigial concern for remaining an elected representative.

Still, it'd be better than pretending she speaks as a member of the government, in whatever capacity.

Posted by: marknesop | April 19, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I look forward with delighted anticipation to the day Michele Bachmann is removed from office. Denied a platform from which to exercise her big, crazy mouth, she will wither like a vampire in the sunlight.

Then again, Fox News would doubtless welcome her as a political commenter. She'd be able to squall her core-deep nuttiness without even the vestigial concern for remaining an elected representative.

Still, it'd be better than pretending she speaks as a member of the government, in whatever capacity.

Posted by: marknesop | April 19, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

OOPS!! Get so carried away that the old arthritic apendages goof up now and then. Please forgive my errors, bagger, not bageer, and DUMMY not Summy. I guess I could find use for these goofs, a "bageer is one who bags", ???, and summy could be ??? Oh well, havin' fun, are you?

Posted by: patriotgmalou | April 19, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

This article is labelled as TEA PARTY MOMENT OF TRUTH, but only cites a single GOP elected official,Marsha Blackburn, interviewed on Meet the Press. The article does not establish that Marsha Blackburn is a supporter of the TEA PARTY -- only that she is a Republican. But aside from these inconsitent journalists, ascribing TRUTH to the TEA PARTY's very loud demonstrations, with none other than Sarah Palin as head cheerleader, you have to wonder if any EDITOR's read this noise. Paraphrasing Tina Turner, WHAT's TRUTH GOT TO DO WITH IT?

We don't have the space in this blog to really discuss TRUTH, but it feels like politicians are talking about OPINIONS. Sometimes you hear the expresson TRUTH TO POWER -- this seems to be effective when disclosing FRAUD and other kinds of CORRUPTION. But truth IS NOT the same as opinions.

Free speech (political speech) is about opinions, is it not? Free speech does not equate to truth. For example, when Newt asserts that we are a nation of "secular socialists" is that truth?

If we are truly a nation of secularists, then how come so many people go to church? How come people get upset with the child abuser priests? Is that truth?

Socialism obviously means different things to whoever is using the word. But it is hardly truth, it's supposed to be something about a government that takes care of its people with schools, jobs, food, shelter, etc. It is hard to see how the U.S. could be considered a socialist nation with so many unemployeed, poor, sick, homeless (bank foreclosures), etc. If an alien dropped in from outer space, wouldn't they see more of a dysfunctional nation? While Newt and others might see Socialism as bad government, aren't they just expressing an opionion? Again TRUTH is fairly subjective, and not as absolute as implied in this sloppy article (IMHO).

Posted by: rmorris391 | April 19, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Can Bachman be impeached? Shouldn't it be against some rule to call your President a gangster? I know this a free country, but
she IS an elected official, who pledged to uphold the rules, right? Maybe there was a new rule inserted by Bushy that we forgot
about. Impugning the integrity of a political opponent is one thing, but an elected Federal official impugning the integrity of the President, have we really
sunk so low? Somebody ought to slap a defamation of character law-suit against her. Next thing, she and Carabou Barbie will be swinging their shoot em' up guns around while they spew their filth. We should draw the line SOMEWHERE!!!

Posted by: patriotgmalou | April 19, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

patriotgmalou @ April 19, 2010 4:12 PM wrote "Shouldn't it be against some rule to call your President a gangster? I know this a free country, but she IS an elected official, who pledged to uphold the rules, right?"

You mean a rule about respecting the office?

Personally I don't like rules like that. But I find it very interesting that those who demand respect for the office (when a Republican holds it) have none when a Repulican loses the election. Not that they are hypocrites or anything ;)

Posted by: AMviennaVA | April 19, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I've got it!! Look up the definition of the "female mother dog" and you will find:
photos of Blackburn, Bachman, Palin, Cheney #2, Coulter, what a lovely group!!
Now the question is, which one will be the
presidential candidate for 2010, and which one will be the VP choice? What a cat-fight that will be!! I'm simply giddy with
anticipation, hope it doesn't come to a duel @ dawn, don't laugh, it COULD be such a sticky wicket by then ya know. You Betcha!! I do believe Carabou Barbie is the best shot however.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | April 19, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Ah, the left....While vilifying the menacing, bogey-man TEA Party, the upright and morally-rectified liberals have indulged themselves with foam-flecked, spittle-spraying invective in this post. Thanks for showing us what real tolerance sounds like.

Posted by: Katzenjammer1 | April 19, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

AMviennaVA-those Republicans waving the flag on the balcony of the statehouse are
exemplary examples of the"up-standing" ones
who demand that "respect". Just how much lower can we expect these low-lifes in our
hallowed halls to go? You know, I guess it will be as low as we allow them to go.
Not on the heels of my votes, no way!!

Posted by: patriotgmalou | April 19, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

AMviennaVA:
We are all well aware that Obama won the election--since that seems to be his only answer for everything (I won--so do as I say ...) But the nation is undergoing serious buyer's remorse--which is the one soruce of solace. He may have fooled America once, but several polls have shown that, if the election were held today, most Americans do not think he deserves a second term and would instead choose any of several leading Republicans (no--Sarah Palin is not among them so you don't need to start foaming at the mouth). I just hope we get some change before Obama inflicts too much damage on our country.

Posted by: ToughChoices | April 19, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

They are not menacing, bogeyman anythings,
they are but pawns in the RIGHT'S leading lambs to slaughter, they have our sympathy, not our angst.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | April 19, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I think calling the Obama bunch a gangster government is being kind. You libs have no memory of Madam Speaker Nancy calling George Bush a "total failure" and Pete Stark calling Pres. Bush a "liar"? It's obvious that your side is losing any credibility they once had before Obama became POTUS. David Gregory got the answer he deserved, only wish Blackburn remembered the vicious names that the left called "W".

Posted by: gwalter1 | April 19, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Disgusting that she didn't have the conviction to say "Hell, yes!"

If you can't take the truth, take some smelling salts.

Posted by: happyacres | April 19, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Partiers will always be remembered as the the rude loud mouths that stood up and shouted down politicians at this last summer's town hall meetings.

Posted by: Emmetrope | April 19, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

ToughChoices @ April 19, 2010 4:35 PM: Thank you for the response. To be sure, there is a vocal part of the population that disagrees with a number of policies. But we are a representative democracy. And the crowd is fickle. I mean, how many Republicans do you recall complaining about deficits when Reagan or Bush were President! For that matter, who complained when Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don't matter?! I sense tremendous hypocricy there, but that is just me.

But I am glad that you did grant the essence of my post which is that health care was NOT rushed and Obama is actually carrying through on his campaign promises (even on things with which I disagree, btw). I however do not complain about them, since he is doing what he said during the campaign.

By the way, when you refer to 'our country' I assume that you include me, because frankly when Republicans/Conservatives and Tea Partiers talk they exclude people like me! Which is another reason I am very mistrustful of them. They think that God himself revealed the truth to them (and I suspect they'll throw Him off the bus if he utters any support about social justice, btw).

Posted by: AMviennaVA | April 19, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ToughChoices:
We are all well aware that Obama won the election--since that seems to be his only answer for everything (I won--so do as I say ...)
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The Tea Partiers are saying "Listen to us!"

ToughChoices needs to listen to Obama, judging by what he says above.

Posted by: Emmetrope | April 19, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ToughChoices:
We are all well aware that Obama won the election--since that seems to be his only answer for everything (I won--so do as I say ...)
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The Tea Partiers are saying "Listen to us!"

ToughChoices needs to listen to Obama, judging by what he says above.

Posted by: Emmetrope | April 19, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

AMviennaVA | April 19, 2010 1:37 PM responded to my post (drbill21 @ April 19, 2010 1:28 PM) where I wrote "Gregory's question was illegimate... the type of question the media like to ask in order to divide."

He replied:

"In what way? There is an adult who says complimentary things about a movement. It is perfectly legitimate to question whether this adult agrees with all positions of the movement; and if not, to clarify where disagreements exist. Afterall, we are talking about adults here."

The question wasn't whether she agreed with Bachmann's position on a particular issue but with Bachmann's rhetoric, specifically the phrase "gangster government."

It is not at all uncommon for "adults" who are allies politically to different on strategy or rhetoric. Gregory was asking her if she agreed with Bachmann's somewhat over-heated rhetoric. Of course, he wanted her to say "No" so that he could have a headline that suggest a "rift" or "division" or "conflict among tea party leadership. He knew she couldn't say yes without looking equally shrill.

This would be like throwing one of Al Sharpton's outrageous quotes (of which there are many) in Obama's face, and asking if he agrees with it.

The correct answer is simply to acknowledge general philosophical aggeement on many issues but refuse to endorse (she wasn't asked to agree with but to actually approve Bachmann's statement) a particular rhetorical flourish.

Gregory was playing typical gotcha journalism and Blackburn for the most part didn't fall for it. That's politics, not pathetic.

Posted by: drbill21 | April 19, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Send them pointy head eleetist a message! Let's dig up George Corley Wallace and make him Prez. He won't put up with nunna that socialist nonsense.

Where'z my pillz!!??

Posted by: boglesby | April 19, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Blackburn couldn't come out and directly say that the Teabaggers are over the line because they will attack her without mercy.
While those of us who recognize these Teabaggers for what they are and are alarmed by them, the Republicans are terrified of them.
They have been, and will be, attacked in an instant should they say anything critical about the Teabaggers. Republicans don't want Rush highlighting them on his show, for example. Nor, do they really want them or their families threatened. Political positioning only goes so far when the lives of one's family are at stake.

Posted by: cms1 | April 19, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

What a waste.. this is sticks and stones stuff... who cares.. could you imagine if reporters asked Democrats to defend what other Dems said about Bush/Cheney??? They shuld only be asked about there own words

Posted by: sovine08 | April 19, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Let's give credit where credit is due. It wasn't any Republican who first used the word gangster. It was the American people because of the corruption and trickery used in the House to pass health care. It was because of the closed door meeting with special deals which left the people holding the tab. It was the secrecy behind health care. It's the attacks on this country for profits and it's because now everything is broken and we must have reform as an another excuse for government take over. It was because of the generations after generations that are going to have to foot the bill for President Obama's social justice programs. These are political gangsters and the actions of President Obama and the Democrats are the proof needed and these are the facts and they as indisputable.

Posted by: houstonian | April 19, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Saw part of the show and not only did she not answer the question, her GOP platform was nothing more than talking points. Too bad he did not ask her about the Tea Party contract for America. They say they will unveil it on Thursday, but their 10 point outline is as follows:
1. Protect the Constitution
2. Reject cap and trade energy reforms
3. Demand a balanced budget
4. Enact fundamental tax reform
5. Restore fiscal responsibility and constitutionally limited government in Washington
6. End runaway government spending
7. Defund, repeal, and replace government-run health care
8. Pass an 'all-of-the-above' energy policy
9. Stop the pork
10. Stop the tax hikes


The devil is in the details which I don't think we will see. Kill grandma is not cutting, it is spending. You want medicare to be solvent, you better raise the tax or cut benefits, you can't have it both ways. When has Palin been called out on her white elephant sports complex, bridge to nowhere or the road built to the non-existent bridge? Our gov't in a nation of laws has always been by the constitution. No tax trickle down has always increased deficits, coming from the Tea Party will change that fact? Obama took the entire GOP house to the woodshed in their healthcare debate (Fox cancelled coverage it was so bad) and expect the contract from America to suffer the same fate.

Posted by: jameschirico | April 19, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Well as a Republican who voted for the idiot from Texas; I can say without reservation that George, Dick, Condi, Rheumy and their whole cabal are war criminals, war profiteers, insane egotistical sociopaths, criminals, traitors, and worse! They lack even basic qualifications as humans, much less political leaders of a country with a government for the people by the people! These people are wannabee Fascist, corporate enablers without a single redeeming excuse for their existence! These religious obeisance to the fundamental christian craziness is inexcusable and unacceptable. Calling Bush a war criminal is not hyperbole; it is a simple truth!

Posted by: Chaotician | April 19, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

to all the DIMocRATS here,

sadly, for you DIMs/LIBs/LEFTISTS, what i posted earlier is 100% correct.
(at the rate that the Tea Party Movement is growing, we will be larger than the DIMocRATS & GOP combined, really soon. 3% growth per week is unheard of in American politics & the TPP is, some weeks, growing 4-5% per week.)

as i've said here on several threads, when a middle class/NON-white/mostly "blue collar/union(full disclosure, i was lucky enough to get an Army scholarship, went to college/grad school & spent my career in the military, rather than farming or working in the "awl patch", as many of the men in my family do.)LEAVE the DIMocRAT Party FOREVER, as many other families here have, it "doesn't look too good for" the future of the DIMocRAT Party ever being a majority in the republic again.

we all are now & will remain INDEPENDENTS (who will "just say NO" to every DIMocRAT/leftist/socialist, from the county courthose to the WH) & Tea Party Members.

fwiw, the current "leadership of" the DIMocRATS Party is so out of touch with reality that they do NOT understand that "the light at the end of the tunnel" is a freight train that's going to run them down in Nov of this & every other future election day.

IF i was any DIMocRAT in the congress, i would start "seeking for new employment" now, as MOST in the HoR are DONE & will be voted OUT in about 5.5 months.
(fixing the US Senate will take longer, as the terms are "staggered", but the TPP will "clean house" there too in 2012/2014.)

in case you're wondering WHY this will happen, it's called "healthcare reform", which was passed over (jammed down our throats) the objections of TWO THIRDS of the voters & the ANGER & DISGUST at/with "their elected representatives " is growing daily outside the Beltway.

btw, DIMocRATS, WHEN are you going to dump the KLANSMAN (Robert "KKK" Byrd, DIMocRAT Senator of WV) out of your party & into the street on his pointed, little, HOODED head?
(TOLERATING a stinking KLANSMAN in your party is just as EVIL as BEING one!)

*******
a final note: BHO will be defeated by a LANDSLIDE in 2012,like that of 1980.
further, i never thought that i would live to see any POTUS that was as TOTALLY incompetent (or as big a FOOL as) as Jimmy Carter was & as DISHONEST as Richard M. Nixon was, but BHO is WORSE than both combined.====> a total FAILURE as POTUS & a source of EMBARRASSMENT to most voters.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 19, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

"WE THE PEOPLE will neither FORGIVE OR FORGET = the DIMocRATS are DONE as a major party."
yours, TN46 (texasnative46)

You've really got your panties in a bunch, TN46! You should calm down and get a cool one. It must be the water down in Texas that kills brain cells. The Republican'ts are on the edge of the cliff not the Democrats. Watch in November when the voter go to the polls they will remember..
Democrats Care!
Republicans Don't!
Christa Johnson, Tucson, Az

Posted by: lunetrick | April 19, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

5 will get you 10 Bachmann will be resigning soon.
Seeing Sarah "I quit, show me the money" Palin getting $12 million from the rubes in la-la-land last year has got her thinking.
Cat-fight coming, watch for it!

Posted by: apspa1 | April 19, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

drbill,
As you noted, there are ways of expressing your disagreement with Ms. Bachman's position without making it personal-- if that is your worry. You could easily start with a "I don't think the President of the United States is a criminal, but.." and then launch into a list of disagreements with the administration that would have endeared her to the Tea Partiers.
She pointedly refused to do so.
The correct conclusion to reach from your own position isn't that the question was illegitimate, but that Ms. Blackburn expressed no disagreement with the idea that the Presidency of Barack Obama is illegitimate. Sometimes an omission says a lot.

Posted by: ablum1 | April 19, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Looking from outside the U.S, (although I have many family members as Americans) it is sad to see how a two party political system can get so dengrously radical. Moreover, your indirect electoral system worsens the situation. In any democratic country if a President is chosen by 60% of its citizens through a direct vote, you will never see anything like what's going on in the U.S. currently.
Maybe the Americans should think about voting directly for their Mayors, Governors, and their President.

Posted by: michaelhacopian | April 19, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

While it may be true that Blackburn lacks political courage, please note that courage as defined is extremely expensive in our current society, perhaps costing someone their entire careers. Mr. Cohen, with all due respect, have you ever faced a situation where if you stated the truth but avoided the thrust of a question you would face minimal criticism, but if you took the bull by the horns and told the unvarnished truth you would never be able to work as a journalist again?

While Blackburn certainly ducked the question, she didn't pander or lie. To expect otherwise in today's raw meat political climate is naive.

Posted by: reussere | April 19, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

there is not one thing the dems can say that will distract the people from the economy, their security and their lives...
the dems are in charge and have been so for years now...
they take the hit...
it's their game...

Posted by: DwightCollins | April 19, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Blackburn, like the rest of the so-called leaders supporting the tea party tantrum, have NO COURAGE. They are only brave and full of bombast when spouting off to their own followers. When among reasonable, rational, normal, common-sense Americans, they look a bit shamefaced, as Blackburn did in that interview. I watched it.

I wish interviewers would always press them with tough questions like David Gregory did. The tea party leaders get away with their over-the-top rhetoric every single day because no one calls them on it. When called on it, they shrivel up like Blackburn did, because they know that answer will appear in an ad by the Democrats! The Tea Party is a fringe group, and the COP is going in a very negative direction. They cannot win with this kind of frantic emotionalism. We want serious adults to run our country.

Posted by: cturtle1 | April 19, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

"I just hope we get some change before Obama inflicts too much damage on our country."

So where do tea-baggers stand on the idea that the government can read your yahoo mail and gmail without a warrant? Where do you stand on the permanent suspension of habeas corpus? Permanent war powers? Do I see shoulders being shrugged?

"Big government" is just tea party slang for worry that somebody is going to use the government to get more than is coming to them. And even then, tea bags don't concern themselves with Goldman Sachs, Citibank or like that, just poor folks. The Tea Party is just a little bag of same-o same-o political tea, with a convenient handle, to be put about in brews that don't matter.

Well don't worry tea party marks, you're going to be getting what's coming to you from "big government" alright, and taxes are the least of it.

Posted by: fzdybel | April 19, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Barry Obama is an (admitted) junkie. OK, claims to be ex-junkie. In afghanistan he, Barry, is DELIBERATLY & KNOWINGLY playing footsie with the drug gowers/traffickers. Millions of US lives have been drug-ruined. Barry knows that. Barry, also, like George before him, doesn't sel the Mexico border. Is Barry a gangster? I don't know. Then again, if it quacks like a duck...

Posted by: craigslsst
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And if it thinks like an idiot, writes like an idiot, well, it must be an idiot.. like you craigslsst!!!

Posted by: VietVet68 | April 19, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

"Democrats Care!"

Yes, but what do they care *about*? They just sold the country down the river to the health insurance business and the pharmaceutical business.

Both parties care about financing election campaigns and winning elections. That about ends the extent of their concerns.

Posted by: fzdybel | April 19, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Liberals in the media (about 90% of American media is liberal) seem to live in paranoid terror of the TEA PARTY movement. There have been about a thousand anti-TEA PARTY articles in the usual suspect newspapers lately. The TEA PARTY patriots must really be a threat to the Post's beloved Democrat party. The anti-conservative, anti-Republican, and anti-TEA PARTY propaganda is coming at a feverish rate.

You Democrats must really fear the electoral tsunami coming your way in November.

One thing's for sure. You Democrat, media shills have insulted and demonized the TEA PARTY patriots so much that the TEA PARTY patriots will naturally vote Republican just to get even.

Posted by: battleground51 | April 19, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

A moment of truth? Sounds to me more like a moment of a double standard "gotcha". Would David Gregory have asked Nancy Pelosi whether she stood behind Congressman Phil Hare's (D) remarks at a town hall meeting, captured on YouTube, that health care was so important that he didn't care whether or not the Constitution allowed it? C'mon. NBC (and its offspring MSNBC) are solidly in the left's camp, just as much as Fox is in the right's camp - there is no doubt about it. It is a common ploy for a host to post up an inflammatory quote from another politician from the same party as their guest, and then try and skewer the guest by making them come out against whatever it was that was said. Who in their right mind is going to criticize a member of the same team on national television? If I were a Republican scheduled for Meet the Press, I'd come prepared so that if I were set up by David Gregory like I just explained, I'd toss back a few "red meat" Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddox quotes, and ask him if he stood by them. On second thought, I'd just respectively bow out of any interview on NBC or MSNBC and be done with it.

Posted by: coffeetime | April 19, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

So I guess liberal pundits are never going to get around to talking about the issues. Instead, they will rant until they are blue in the face about how evil all of the people who don't share their narrow minded views are. Of course, the mindless partisan sheep will lap it up and the rest of the country will ignore it all together. Ignorant hate speech isn't very unusual, particularly when it comes from the left.

Posted by: bobmoses | April 19, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Rahm Emanuel the equivalent of a gangster? No way!!

Posted by: hz9604 | April 19, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

So, did the White House put out the word to step up the attacks to discredit the Tea Party? Must have. Between you and your colleagues at The Post, the liberal news and Pres. Clinton, the message must be "all hands on deck" today.

Posted by: bethg1841 | April 19, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

lunetrick,

actually you are as DEAD WRONG as the leftist/brain-DEAD/crooked DIMocRATS in the HoR & Senate will be in Nov of this year.

the DIMocRAT "leaders" just may get the "yellow dog DIMocRAT base out to vote - that's perhaps 35% & most of those believe (with good reason!) that BHO & the DIMs have "sold them out", so the "base" may "go fishing" that day, as many of the GOP/Independents did in Nov '08.

35% won't EVER win in a 2-way race, so REID, LANDRIEU, LINCOLN & a host of others are FINISHED in <6 months!
also i figure that 55-75 seats in the HoR will go GOP. = so the DIMs are FINISHED & BHO's claque will be GONE, so he'll be FINIS, too.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 19, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? Personally, I'm going to do what 75% of voters will do. I'll watch all the performances, laugh, and quietly wait to vote in November. I sure hope we elect representatives who actually know the meaning of the word compromise. This demonizing the other party thing is really getting old.

Posted by: damascuspride04 | April 19, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Much ado about nothing. Cohen had unreasonably high expectations of Marsha Blackburn. What has Blackburn done to warrant such high expectations? What has any Tea Partier done to warrant high expectations? Lie about death panels? Call people socialists? Hurl racial epithets? Fret about the loss of gun rights while there is absolutely no laws on gun rights being discussed?

The Tea Party is little more than old white people upset about a black President who they believe is out to enslave them and send them to concentrations camps. Perhaps we should let stop giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: Smooth_Jazz | April 20, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Pathetic is kind. Michelle Bachmann is now a "national" disgrace thanks to the voters of Minnesota.

Posted by: paris1969 | April 20, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

"we're we stand..." she actually said that, huh.

Posted by: daphne5 | April 20, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Smooth_Jazz,

tell us truly, are you REALLY ignorant/DUMB enough to believe the NONSENSE that you posted?

if you ARE, i PITY you.

NOBODY, that i know of, in the Tea Party gives a damn what color BHO is.

they DO care a great deal that he is a LIAR, a CROOK & a FOOL, who seems to be nothing more than "a charming PUPPET" of the DUMB-bunnies/socialists on the lunatic left of the political spectrum.

"playing the race card" against us is SILLY, DISHONEST & makes the DIMocRAT morons, who try that tactic, look STUPID!

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 20, 2010 1:11 AM | Report abuse

daphne5,

even if she said that, at least she doesn't believe that she's visited 57 states during the primary season, as BHO said TWICE, in 2 different states, that he had visited "with 3 more to go".

if i was a DIMocRAT & "my candidate" was THAT clue-LESS/ignorant, i'd keep my mouth tightly SHUT!

btw, WHO was it that FOUR times in a speech in 2009 said that "J-O-B-S" is a THREE-letter word?
could it be "Poor Joe Biden" THE DUNCE, VPOTUS & "pride of the DE DIMocRAT party"?

YEP, that's who it was.
fyi, the "standing joke" on Capitol Hill (among Congressional staffers & MEMBERS) is that "Poor Joe" is "so stupid that you can pee on his feet & convince him that it's raining."

laughing AT anyone, who thinks that either/both of your "standard-bearers" are even HALF smart.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 20, 2010 1:29 AM | Report abuse

daphne5,

even if she said that, at least she doesn't believe that she's visited 57 states during the primary season, as BHO said TWICE, in 2 different states, that he had visited "with 3 more to go".

if i was a DIMocRAT & "my candidate" was THAT clue-LESS/ignorant, i'd keep my mouth tightly SHUT!

btw, WHO was it that FOUR times in a speech in 2009 said that "J-O-B-S" is a THREE-letter word?
could it be "Poor Joe Biden" THE DUNCE, VPOTUS & "pride of the DE DIMocRAT party"?

YEP, that's who it was.
fyi, the "standing joke" on Capitol Hill (among Congressional staffers & MEMBERS) is that "Poor Joe" is "so stupid that you can pee on his feet & convince him that it's raining."

laughing AT anyone, who thinks that either/both of your "standard-bearers" are even HALF smart.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 20, 2010 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Occasionally the English language provides the perfect word for a person's behavior. You found it: Pathetic.

Posted by: Felipe_M | April 20, 2010 2:13 AM | Report abuse

The Tea Partiers are no more racist than any other group of whites in this country, and that includes liberals. I can't tell you the number of times some far-left-leaning family member or friend has, in an unguarded moment, whispered something to me about blacks that was as racist or sterotyping as anything you'd hear from a Klansman. In fact, I believe the majority of Tea Partiers are actually LESS racist than the typical white person in this country, because we are repulsed by the "soft bigotry of low expectations" routinely embraced by the Left.

Tea Partiers believe in personal responsibility and believe every individual is capable of being personally responsible. This means working to better yourself while you're on welfare so you don't remain on welfare forever, keeping your neighborhoods clean and safe for your children, not having multiple children out-of-wedlock by multiple men, turning in criminals within your midst rather than protecting them, paying your fair share of taxes, and, in general, being a good citizen. Tea partiers are disgusted by what we see as willful bad behavior, and we don't think any race has a lock on stupid. Tea Partiers believe this obligation to be personally responsible translates into governments, and we are repulsed by a federal government that is borrowing and printing money that makes Imelda Marcos' shoe-buying mere amateurism.

Why are those on the Left such as Cohen so super-sensitive to any free speech on the Right, albeit somewhat inflammatory, but are tone-deaf to rhetoric on the Left that is orders of magnitude worse? He calls this Republican Congresswoman's reaction to Bachman's opinion that this is a gangster government "pathetic" but seems to have no problem with a President who sat in a church for over 20 years listening to the "pastor" spew the most vile, anti-white, anti-American bile imaginable. He seems to have no problem with the fact that this man who is currently President gave a speech saying that he could "no more disown the Reverend Wright than he could his own white grandmother or the black community". How about a little intellectual and moral consistency, Mr. Cohen?

Posted by: RedderThanEver | April 20, 2010 5:58 AM | Report abuse

The tea-baggers are just a sad group of old, rich, white, malcontent republicans who hate blacks, asians, hispanics, the middle class and the poor and can't stand the fact that we have a black president. When they howl "take back America!!" they mean to take it back from minorities. Luckily the middle class and the poor far outnumber the tea-baggers so they will have little effect in November. Mark Montgomery boboberg@nyc.rr.com

Posted by: boboberg | April 20, 2010 6:25 AM | Report abuse

All the Republicans are pathetic. They insist on adding fuel to the unhinged right wing extremist movement that seems to be engulfing this country, or at least seems to be getting lots of attention by the media. According to our very conservative paper, the Richmond Times, the gun rights rally yesterday had about 2000 people, yet looking at the coverage, you would have thought it had at least 10 times that. Never mind the fact the the Obama administration has done NOTHING to roll back gun rights, just like the fact that he decreased taxes for 95% of the country while the Tea Baggers are out there protesting taxes. These people are irrational and make no sense, yet get all sorts of attention.

Posted by: ggwalt | April 20, 2010 6:49 AM | Report abuse

Bobo,

Oh, so now the "teabaggers" (are you homophobic?) are "rich." That's funny -- just a few short months ago, we were uneducated, lower-class rubes. Why don't you actually go to a Tea Party, simply as an observer, and make a determination for yourself, rather than regurgitating Left-wing talking points?

As far as Tea Partiers protesting taxes in light of 95% of the country getting tax decreases this past year -- well, our horizon is longer term than a single year. Unlike liberals, who must experience something first-hand before they can understand it, we are able to project into the future and see that it is not possible to continue on with the level of debt Obama is creating without taxes going much much much higher. Either that, or face a financial catastrophe. So if our taxes DO go way up in the next few years, are you going to criticize us for complaining about it then? Or will you tell us to shut up and pay because it's our moral and patriotic duty?

Posted by: RedderThanEver | April 20, 2010 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Marsha Blackburn: Another GOP Profile in Courage.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | April 20, 2010 7:33 AM | Report abuse

I love when in these chats a question is asked-- like: "do you like flowers?" And some posters reply, "that Obama is a commie, socialist, Islamic radical non-American!!!" Some of the posters should answer the question NOT go off on some tangent.

Posted by: Ralph_Indianapolis | April 20, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

It makes me laugh that after eight years of nasty vile comments by sore loser Democrats in this country about the Bush administration, they are suddenly polly pure breads about dissent. You little girls started this game of hard ball and now it's coming back on you. See you in November.

Posted by: gorams1 | April 20, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Wait... It was a test for the Tea Party because of comments by a Republican Congressman? You make no sense.

In any case, did any Democratic politicians have this most cherished of traits as courage to denounce any of the utterly disgusting things--if I may editorialize--things about Bush? Or what about all the lies told about the Tea Party? Where are the Democrats to call out their fellow lawmakers to say, "You know, no one at that protest call you the N-word. You are a disgusting liar."

Well, Mr. Coen? Where are all those courageous politicians from the left? Nowhere? I thought so. So shut up.

Posted by: shecallsmemoe | April 20, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

No news here. If you're holding your breath waiting for a politician of any stripe to answer a potentially embarrassing question straight up, you'll quickly die of asphyxiation. You're in even more danger if you expect journalists to ask the same tough questions of their like-minded guests as they do to those with opposing views.

Posted by: jpost1 | April 20, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

When there was dissent in the Bush years, he was called a Nazi, Cheney a war criminal, and there was actually a play on the assassination of George Bush — you didn't hear a word from him or others about agitated language.

When a Republican is in power, dissent is the highest form of patriotism. And when a Democrat is in power, dissent is near treasonous and a call to mutiny and insurrection. This is really disgraceful.

Posted by: gorams1 | April 20, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

"OOoooh nooooo the Tea Party! Ooops. I pooped my pants again."
--- Every liberal columnists for the past year.

What's pathetic is the media's portrayal of a rather innocuous movement.

Posted by: shecallsmemoe | April 20, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

These tea party people are blindly following Bachman/Palin. I bet 75% of them can't even explain why they are protesting our government.

Is it because of high taxes? Well we have the lowest taxes in 50 years, so that can't be it.

Is it because of deficit spending? Well we have been seeing record deficit spending for the last 10 years, so that can't be it.

Is it because the republicans have been completely destroy in the last elections because the majority of the country thinks that they are all idiots who don't care about America as much as they care about corporations, and this riles up the small base of people who still like them? Probably.

Posted by: Independent4tw | April 20, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

I recently saw the Broadway show Billy Elliott - with the score by Elton John. At one point the cast sings a song with the words, Merry Christmas Maggie Thatcher, we celebrate today ‘cos it’s one day closer to your death". Four times in a row. While wearing Maggie masks.

This was beyond offensive.

Why is it OK for the left to engage in hateful rhetoric and the left-leaning media says nothing??

Then they wring their hands when someone diminishes them??

I'll tell you why: because the tea party movement - which is gathering steam, will dramatically impact the 2010 elections and the press is desperate to throw cold water on this movement any way they can.

Pathetic.

Posted by: thinker16 | April 20, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

This harpy makes me ashamed to be from Tennessee. Unfortunately, there are many others like her here.

Posted by: boxman14191 | April 20, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

I recently saw the Broadway show Billy Elliott - with the score by Elton John. At one point the cast sings a song with the words, Merry Christmas Maggie Thatcher, we celebrate today ‘cos it’s one day closer to your death". Four times in a row. While wearing Maggie masks.

This was beyond offensive.

Why is it OK for the left to engage in hateful rhetoric and the left-leaning media says nothing??

Then they wring their hands when someone diminishes them??

I'll tell you why: because the tea party movement - which is gathering steam, will dramatically impact the 2010 elections and the press is desperate to throw cold water on this movement any way they can.

Pathetic.

Posted by: thinker16 | April 20, 2010 8:13 AM
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Congratulations, you met a group of liberals who are on par with the taste and intelligence of tea party people.

"the tea party movement - which is gathering steam, will dramatically impact the 2010 elections"

You are correct. Conservatives will have to split their votes between two parties, Republican and tea, while the democrats take all the independent and liberal votes again.

Posted by: Independent4tw | April 20, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Why don't the teabaggers just admit that their heads are absolutely exploding over the fact that there is a black president (with a funny name, no less)

their movement is about race, and about culture. Well, guess what - this country is changing, permanently. It is becoming more diverse in skin tone, religion, and language. If you don't like it, go find an all white country with no immigrants. Good luck with that, though.

Posted by: jmp66 | April 20, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

the giant is awake:
a quote from the late mr. george carlin. "it's all B.S.!"
lots of words, ink, air time..... why ??
the American people deserve the truth....
the reason i vote is this, the white crosses/stones at our national cemeteries !!

58000+ in vietnam, 5000+ in iraq/afghanistan..
too many words, not enough action !
vietnam, lbj cried just about every night, mcnamara wrote in his book, "we should not have been there!"
tell that to the moms and dads, husbands and wives, sons and daughters, etc., etc., etc...
it's time to stand up and be counted.....
it's time to be heard, loud and clear..
be cool, calm and collected..... we are not loons, pinheads, racists, bigots.....
WE ARE AMERICANS, PROUD AMERICANS !!!!!

Posted by: ecesareel | April 20, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

What is it with Republicans and shrill, shrieking hags? Do you teabagger men like nutso women with bigger nutsacks than you?

Blackburn
Bachmann
Mean Jean Schmidt
Virginia "Not a" Foxx
Palin
"Mann" Coulter
Malkin (maybe the most annoying shrieker of them all)
Cheney

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 20, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

For a long time, I have thought that Bachmann was the dumbest person in Congress. Now Blackburn is a close second. What a sniveling coward.

Posted by: alamo2 | April 20, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

to all,

when Hillery Rodham Clinton said 3 years ago that "dissent is the highest form of patriotism" all you brain-DEAD liberals/"Progressives" wildly cheered.

but when the middle of the road & conservative citizens protest the CORRUPT ACTIONS of the motley collection of LIARS, SEIU thugs, BIGOTS, antisemites & common criminals that BHO brought to Washington, you say that we should be SILENCED, as protesting things that we find wrong is racist/treasonous/UN-American/etc.

the TRUTH is that you DIMocRATS are LOSERS & HYPOCRITES & nothing more than that.

PATHETIC is correct, as a description of the LUNATIC LEFT.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 20, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Watch out for the huge 'Bag Party celebration today in honor of Hitler's birthday and Tim McVeigh.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | April 20, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Watch out for the huge 'Bag Party celebration today in honor of Hitler's birthday and Tim McVeigh.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | April 20, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse
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Bill Clinton and the left, in their desperate effort to squelch the growing tea party movement, are attempting to re-write history.

The Oklahoma bombing was a result of the disaster at Waco ordered by Janet Reno under Clinton's watch.

Posted by: thinker16 | April 20, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

kool_kat1960,

do you enjoy being RIDICULED as a FOOL & brain-DEAD HATER by the relatively normal/ordinary citizens, who read these comments.= NOTHING that you've posted makes "common sense".
are you "off your meds" again?

your are, in just one word: PATHETIC.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 20, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

The great thing about the Tea Party is that everyone is trying to ride the movement for their own advantage. WHAT A GREAT POSITION THE TEA PARTY IS IN! Sort of like being lost on an island inhabited mostly by females and you are one of the lone males on that island.

AFTER ALL THE PUNDITS HAVE SPOKEN, AND THE EMPTY SUITS HAVE SAID ALL THAT THEY CAN SAY, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL HAVE "THEIR" SAY.

WE'LL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!

Posted by: barrysal | April 20, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Smooth_Jazz,

tell us truly, are you REALLY ignorant/DUMB enough to believe the NONSENSE that you posted?

if you ARE, i PITY you.

NOBODY, that i know of, in the Tea Party gives a damn what color BHO is.

they DO care a great deal that he is a LIAR, a CROOK & a FOOL, who seems to be nothing more than "a charming PUPPET" of the DUMB-bunnies/socialists on the lunatic left of the political spectrum.

"playing the race card" against us is SILLY, DISHONEST & makes the DIMocRAT morons, who try that tactic, look STUPID!

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46
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Pot calling the kettle black. Read your own post, any details or just innuendo? Tell me what a one of us blueblooded American patriot means? Beck saying Obama hates white people is not racist? Grow up.

Posted by: jameschirico | April 20, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

"My country has been hijacked by a criminal cabal intent on using the hard-earned dollars of the American people for war, occupation, and empire." Democrat Ga. Cynthia McKinny

There's your rhetoric.

Posted by: LMW6 | April 20, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

When there was dissent in the Bush years, he was called a Nazi, Cheney a war criminal, and there was actually a play on the assassination of George Bush — you didn't hear a word from him or others about agitated language.

When a Republican is in power, dissent is the highest form of patriotism. And when a Democrat is in power, dissent is near treasonous and a call to mutiny and insurrection. This is really disgraceful.

Posted by: gorams1
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Tell us Lex Luthor did you hear any Dem elected official say "by any means possible"? OK GOP talked of armed secession, did MA Dems want to secede? Gunsights and take them out is not pink slips vote them out. Beck's Obama want to take your gun away got a Pittsburgh policeman shot. The rise in militias since Obama's election is a threefold increase. It is not only Tea Partiers buying guns and ammo, others have too thinking about what may happen.

Posted by: jameschirico | April 20, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Why should we be surprised? The republican party (of which I was once a member) is now the "white supremacist party"... and will be until they call these people out, which they never will.

Posted by: joecoppo | April 20, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

texasnative46: Illiterate, unstable, teabag scum.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 20, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

So I guess liberal pundits are never going to get around to talking about the issues. Instead, they will rant until they are blue in the face about how evil all of the people who don't share their narrow minded views are. Of course, the mindless partisan sheep will lap it up and the rest of the country will ignore it all together. Ignorant hate speech isn't very unusual, particularly when it comes from the left.
Posted by: bobmoses | April 19, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, bob. You tell ‘em. Make them stick to talking about the issues. Don’t let them indulge in mindless partisan ignorant hate speech.

bobmoses wrote:
Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.
bobmoses wrote:
Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.
bobmoses wrote:
Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.
bobmoses wrote:
Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.
bobmoses wrote:
Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.
bobmoses wrote:
Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.
bobmoses wrote:
Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.

Posted by: Attucks | April 20, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

As the late, great Daniel Patrick Moynihan used to say, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.” So let it be with the irascible Tea Partiers. If one were to believe their graphic displays of Obama-phobia, we have been reduced to a bankrupt, socialist form of government run by a Hitler-like tyrant – so they want to “take their country back.”

They are welcome to try by lawful means, but can they please leave our markets alone? Apparently, the stock markets did not get the Tea Party memo, and they have been on a tear for the past 14 months – thus validating most aspects of the Obama agenda! These are the facts – as most believers in the efficient markets theory of the capitalist system would vouch for – that Tea Partiers need to reconcile and live with.

Posted by: JacktheBlogger | April 20, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

quick reaction- I am not very familiar with either Ms. Bachman or Ms. Blackburn- I am somewhat more familiar with Mr. Cohen-a significantly left wing liberal- and Mr. Gregory, a lackluster choice for his new job- who I hope will soon be replaced before he bores most of us away from Meet the Press-but he unlike his more honest predecessor- is also a doctrinaire liberal with a mission - poorly and clumsily handled o see the world only from one arm-

calling the administration Gangster was /is unfortunate but not terribly deadly- I thought Ms. Blackburn held up rather well under the circumstances

Posted by: 27anon72 | April 20, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

The citizens of this country need to be more understanding of the issues and who they vote for. Jay Leno's "Jay Walking" tells it all.Its really amazing how in the dark people are about the political views and policies of their own country but they know all of the names of the contestants on the American Idol show. People are not paying attention to what counts in this country and that's why big business, Wall Street and banks take advantage of us.Wake up America!!

Posted by: sandtrap | April 20, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Earlier in the same broadcast, Ed Rendell said "What the Republicans are doing is death squad stuff" (it's in the transcript, you can check). This outrageous statement was unchallenged by David Gregory, as opposed to his grilling of Marsha Blackburn for a statement made by someone else.

It's hard to take such a selective sense of outrage by Mr. Cohen and Mr. Gregory seriously. I'd like to think that Tim Russert would not have allowed the "death squad" slur to go unchallenged on his program, then I would have felt better when he also questioned Ms. Blackburn.

Posted by: purplebari1 | April 20, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

In reading the transcript of "Meet the Press", I wonder why Cohen didn't also attack the Secretary of Treasury for not answering Gregory's repeated question about the alleged fraud of Goldman Sachs. Is it because the Secretary is a Democrat? He moved from that type of Wall Street arena to his current position (and will without a doubt move back after his term is over) so he certainly knows the answer to Gregory's question. Of course if he had answered he might not be welcomed back to the Street.

Posted by: wolfman1 | April 20, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

kool_kat1960,

inasmuch as you write like a "mentally unbalanced", grade school dropout, you really should keep your FAT mouth closed about everybody else's writing, so that you don't look like a BIGGER dunce & a more ignorant DIMocRAT/BIGOT than you already do. = PITIFUL, describes you.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 21, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Marsha Blackburn Voted FOR:
Omnibus Appropriations, Special Education, Global AIDS Initiative, Job Training, Unemployment Benefits, Labor-HHS-Education Appropriations, Agriculture Appropriations, U.S.-Singapore Trade, U.S.-Chile Trade, Supplemental Spending for Iraq & Afghanistan, Prescription Drug Benefit, Child Nutrition Programs, Surface Transportation, Job Training and Worker Services, Agriculture Appropriations, Foreign Aid, Vocational/Technical Training, Supplemental Appropriations, UN “Reforms.” Patriot Act Reauthorization, CAFTA, Katrina Hurricane-relief Appropriations, Head Start Funding, Line-item Rescission, Oman Trade Agreement, Military Tribunals, Electronic Surveillance, Head Start Funding, COPS Funding, Funding the REAL ID Act (National ID), Foreign Intelligence Surveillance, Thought Crimes “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, Peru Free Trade Agreement, Economic Stimulus, Farm Bill (Veto Override), Warrantless Searches, Employee Verification Program, Body Imaging Screening.

Marsha Blackburn Voted AGAINST:
Ban on UN Contributions, eliminate Millennium Challenge Account, WTO Withdrawal, UN Dues Decrease, Defunding the NAIS, Iran Military Operations defunding Iraq Troop Withdrawal, congress authorization of Iran Military Operations.


Marsha Blackburn is my Congressman.
See her unconstitutional votes at :
http://mickeywhite.blogspot.com/2009/09/tn-congressman-marsha-blackburn-votes.html
Mickey

Posted by: mickey1956 | April 21, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

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