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Why conservatives should oppose Arizona's immigration law

A healthy debate rages on the right about the details and dangers of Arizona’s new immigration law. Serious conservative writers such as Byron York of the Washington Examiner argue that the burdens of the law on citizens and legal immigrants are minimal. “Can anyone argue that being asked to produce a driver’s license, if one is in some sort of encounter with police in which police are acting lawfully (that is also specified by the new law) is overly burdensome?”

York and others attempt to defend the Arizona law by asserting is it essentially meaningless. Who could object to being asked for a driver’s license when caught for speeding? But the question naturally arises: Why would one need an immigration law -- considered groundbreaking by its supporters and detractors -- to allow policemen the right to check the driver’s licenses of speeders?

The law itself is murky, but it certainly broader than this. For any “lawful contact” made by law enforcement officials “where a reasonable suspicion exists that a person is an alien... a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person.” The phrase “lawful contact” is not much of a qualification. Just about any contact of a policeman with a citizen short of a shakedown is lawful.

The phrase “reasonable suspicion” is also broadly drafted. The law prevents police from checking immigration status “solely” because of race or ethnicity. But “reasonable suspicion” is purposely undefined in the law. In fact, Arizona’s governor, members of its legislature and local police officials have refused to publicly offer their standards for such suspicions, because those standards would almost certainly smack of racial profiling. Their silence is a kind of confession.

So the law paints a vast, gray area, leaving police tremendous discretion in its application. It could mean a Phoenix policeman asking for a driver’s license during a routine traffic stop. As far as I can tell, it could also mean a small-town Arizona sheriff, untrained as an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent, deciding that he doesn’t like the look of a packed van containing a family of fourth-generation Americans of Hispanic origin passing his speed trap. The law’s broad discretion leaves broad leeway for abuse. And that potential for abuse is increased because authorities are not only permitted to act on a “reasonable suspicion” but required to act -- note the “shall” in the law. Another portion of the law allows for suits against local authorities if citizens do not believe the law is being enforced vigorously enough.

On these issues, conservatives are having a reasonable debate. Some believe, given the severe provocation of illegal immigration, that police must be trusted to reasonably enforce a vague law. Others, myself included, think it is disturbing to create a suspect class, based in part on ethnicity, which is required to prove its innocence on the basis of unspecified suspicions.

But York goes on to slip the surly bonds of sense and argue that the demand by police to provide identification is inherently unobjectionable in every circumstance because it is unexceptional in some circumstances. “When we board an airplane, we are asked to produce a government-issued photo ID, usually a driver’s license. When we make some credit- or debit-card purchases in department stores, we are asked to produce a driver’s license.” And so on.

It hardly requires argument that the context for such demands makes a large difference. By way of analogy, an entrance exam for college entry is expected. An entry exam at a polling place in unconstitutional. In the same way, being asked to prove your identity for security reasons to board a plane or employ credit is not the same as being asked to prove your identity to a police officer because of a vague stereotype. I am more than happy to provide my identification to an officer who clocks me speeding. I would be less cooperative if I were stopped because conservative, overweight, white men were declared by implication to be a criminally suspect class by the state of Virginia.

The failure to comprehend such a basic distinction reveals a fundamental lack of empathy. When millions of American citizens of Hispanic origin are told they will not be “solely” targeted based on their ethnicity in Arizona, they understandably hear they will be partially targeted on the basis of their ethnicity. And it is not particularly reassuring to minorities in America when informed that the police will largely police themselves -- applying a vague law with wide discretion. If conservatives and Republicans cannot even understand such concerns, they will not deserve Hispanic support.

By Michael Gerson  | April 29, 2010; 12:38 PM ET
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It only confirms just how far-reaching and absurd this law is, when Gerson comes across as completely reasonable by comparison.

Posted by: Ralphinjersey | April 29, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely.

Aside from the question of whether this law is unconstitutional, how can any intellectually honest conservative support such a broad expansion of police powers? Are conservatives for limited government, or not?

Posted by: ram_lopez | April 29, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

How can this law be unconstitutional? It parrots the federal law that the federal government is not enforcing. THAT law has not been declared unconstitutional! When you are illegal you are already breaking a law. Arizona is only enforcing the law. In fact, it does not take effect until July 1. Already, according to a WaPo article in Politics today, illegals are already leaving Arizona in droves. Perhaps the police will not have to check too many papers! Anytime you cross a border, to Canada or any country in Europe, your papers will be checked! Just because you DC people do not travel does not mean you are correct. In fact, we see and read the reverse everyday.

Posted by: annnort | April 29, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

To correct the author's speeding driver analogy, this law would not make you produce a drivers license if you are caucasian.

To correct the law, the police would have to demand citizenship documentation from every person they "came in contact with".

Posted by: Generalize | April 29, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Funny, in my state, the police can put up roadblocks checking everyone for license, registration, proof of insurance and seat belt usage. No "reasonable suspicion" is required.

As for stereotyping, I imagine that if you see a dozen hispanics walking through the scrub in the middle of the night carrying water bottles, you are a racist to suspect they might be illegal aliens. That's profiling.

Posted by: kitchendragon50 | April 29, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Gerson misses the point.
Arizonans are simply protecting themselves and their property, because the federal govenment has failed to do so.

Posted by: chipcarlson01 | April 29, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Do people READ and UNDERSTAND the SB1070 word for word? It is a solid law. It is carefully crafted and a GENIUS law. A lot of things that opposing people talk about in this law is FALSE, HYPE, BASELESS, PROPAGANDA, SMEAR and a BUNCH OF LIES. The state of ARIZONA does NOT even have to enforce this law everyday and it will work. But I do not recommend that. However, it does need to be uniformly enforced meaning that if the crime is there, enforce it, don't ignore it.

Read the intent of the law carefully. Arizona has no intention of deporting all illegal aliens. READ THE INTENT and discover what GENIUS of a law this is. I swear that Arizona will only have to probably do their everyday work like they are doing now like if the person committing a crime cannot provide a valid ID or DL, they check for immigration papers, this LAW will work like a charm. However, if they see violations stated in this bill, the law has to be enforced. This is the MOST GENIUS law I had ever seen.

Please read the SB1070 word for word. You will discover how genius of a law this is---- This law is a MASTERPIECE.

Posted by: tij12345 | April 29, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Let Arizona live with the law for a while, they shall soon see that they have destroyed their own economy. That is what the Virginia town discovered in 2007 before they repealed, it is also what Pete Wilson and California discovered in 1994 before they also repealed. As an added bonus, the 1994 law also destroyed the California Republican party.

Actions have consequences. Let Arizona live with the law. Their economy is surely headed for a crash, and then they will jumping over each other to repeal.

Posted by: Amminadab | April 29, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

ANNORT said, "Already, according to a WaPo article in Politics today, illegals are already leaving Arizona in droves. Perhaps the police will not have to check too many papers!" This is exactly the intent of SB1070. That's why I said the police do not even have to enforce it everyday. Folks, READ THE INTENT OF THE BILL carefully. It is PURE GENIUS and it is working.

Posted by: tij12345 | April 29, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

ANNORT said, "Already, according to a WaPo article in Politics today, illegals are already leaving Arizona in droves. Perhaps the police will not have to check too many papers!" This is exactly the intent of SB1070. That's why I said the police do not even have to enforce it everyday. Folks, READ THE INTENT OF THE BILL carefully. It is PURE GENIUS and it is working.

Posted by: tij12345 | April 29, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I am so sorry about the repeated post. I do not know what happened. WP can you please delete to duplicate posts?

Posted by: tij12345 | April 29, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't see what is the big deal? In other advanced nations, Canada, Europe, Australia, immigratants are reqiuired to carry proof of Residency Status at all times.

Don't you want the United States to become more like Europe?

Posted by: NorthMan | April 29, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Generalize, this is a law already that the Government does not enforce. Tell me something, it's ok for a police officer to stop a white person and ask for I.D but it's not ok for them to ask for Hispanics I.D because that is Racial Profiling?? What about drinking in a bar,or being somewhere where they ask you for I.D/ Is that Racial Profiling? Do you know the only time there isn't I.D checked is when we vote. Hmmm I wonder why... could it be because the Demis are the only group who actually need illigals votes and they add up to alot. If we get rid of the illigal immigrants the lefties wouldn't get near the votes that they are getting now. I say pass this law and let every other state pass a similar one also! If you want to be a part of our beautiful nation, then be here legally.. They get welfare, don't have to pay taxes, and you people are ok with this????? Well alot of us are sick of this and now we are fighting back.

Posted by: concernedinWashingtonstate | April 29, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

So what if you have a driver's license from bordering Utah or New Mexico, those states "don't verify lawful presence in the U.S." Illegal with a valid driver's license... not that hard. Now what?

Posted by: EvanTH | April 29, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Generalize, this is a law already that the Government does not enforce. Tell me something, it's ok for a police officer to stop a white person and ask for I.D but it's not ok for them to ask for Hispanics I.D because that is Racial Profiling?? What about drinking in a bar,or being somewhere where they ask you for I.D/ Is that Racial Profiling? Do you know the only time there isn't I.D checked is when we vote. Hmmm I wonder why... could it be because the Demis are the only group who actually need illigals votes and they add up to alot. If we get rid of the illigal immigrants the lefties wouldn't get near the votes that they are getting now. I say pass this law and let every other state pass a similar one also! If you want to be a part of our beautiful nation, then be here legally.. They get welfare, don't have to pay taxes, and you people are ok with this????? Well alot of us are sick of this and now we are fighting back. I live in Washington state where there are many illigals who tell me that it's right for them to be here, harvest our trees and take that money back to mexico to their families.No wonder we have higher taxes!

Posted by: concernedinWashingtonstate | April 29, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

This article stretches the limits of rationalization and sophistry. The author suggests that conservatives should oppose the new law because of an expansion of police powers. This is incredibly disingenuous.
First of all, police power will be constrained by the same forces that control "Terry Stops" ( a factor excluded from the article because the author knows he is being intellectually dishonest). Second, we are dealing with a "crime in progress" when discussing an illegal alien. By being in the USA illegally the alien is engaged in a continuous crime. The suggestion that one cannot stop a suspected illegal is akin to suggesting a police officer cannot stop and question a burglar, a trespasser, or any other criminal "caught inthe act". Why do opponents of our nation continue to deliberately ignore the words "ILLEGAL ALIEN."
As a true conservative, I respect the Constitution and the Rule of Law. As a conservative I am patriotic, and love my country and its culture and its traditions. As a conservative, I love the "new blood and new ideas" that flow from LEGAL immigrants, but I expect people to OBEY THE LAW.
As a conservative, I also know good and well that opponents of Arizona's law do not care about the USA or the Constitution. The real reason they support "illegal rights" is their desire to inflate the rolls of the dirty Democrat Party with 30 million new Mexican voters.

Posted by: MARKM2 | April 29, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

nicely put Markm2

Posted by: concernedinWashingtonstate | April 29, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

It's sort of funny and sad that people refuse to state the obvious here: 99.9% of illegals in Arizona came from Mexico or South America. There's no Irish or Austrailian or Ghanan illegals flooding the border. To scoff at the law and claim that this amounts to "racial profiling" is absurd. If the police are supposed to have a "reasonable suspicion" what else are they supposed to look for if not appearence? If Arizona is so worried about the illegals, BUILD A WALL. It would create jobs. But the irony would be those jobs would get taken by illegal workers.

Posted by: jakeyrotten | April 29, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

To be honest I think its a little short sighted to flame this bill based on the fact that they use racial profiling. While in a general application i think it is wrong to harass law abiding citizens based on race, this is a border state and while not all Mexicans are illegals, all illegals are Mexicans. Its an invasion. They are raping and murdering our countrymen to bring across drugs and the ones that are just looking for work are violating our borders as well. You may confess to be color blind, but it is a fact that we all see color to some degree and i bet if we started having suicide bombers in your neighborhood you would look at people from the middle east differently.

Posted by: rutler85 | April 29, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Building a wall doesn't work. The Chinese have learned that over the past one to two thousand years. Also, reminder: you can't vote unless you are a citizen, legal residents still can't vote; so whose votes are the evil Democrats stealing? concernedinWashingtonstate: your state is one that doesn't require proof of legal presence in the U.S. to get an I.D., work on your own state first, you have a border to the North, those Canadians and their legalized Marijuana must scare you to death eh?

Posted by: EvanTH | April 29, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

ANNORT said, "Already, according to a WaPo article in Politics today, illegals are already leaving Arizona in droves. Perhaps the police will not have to check too many papers!" This is exactly the intent of SB1070. That's why I said the police do not even have to enforce it everyday. Folks, READ THE INTENT OF THE BILL carefully. It is PURE GENIUS and it is working.

Posted by: tij12345
+++++
Are they leaving in droves back to Mexico? Nooo. This is not genius as you seem to think it is, it is dumping a problem on somebody else. Adjectives like opportunistic and cynical come to mind.

Posted by: Sandydayl | April 29, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse


It's refreshing to read a conservative that sounds reasonable these days. Gerson, you are a loner in your camp and I hope voices such as yours prevail because the conservatism of today does not have empathy in its vocabulary. The extreme right has made it almost treasonous to empathize.

Posted by: tadtef | April 29, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

1. I have a reasonable suspicion that this ‘law’ will be found unconstitutional. (Violation of equal protection, illegal search and seizure, privacy, etc…)
2. ‘Broad support’ shows that even majorities can be wrong-headed and quick to look for a scapegoat for their problems.
3. The federal immigration system in our country is hopelessly broken and needs reforming now. (by the federal govt)
4. For the vast majority (unskilled laborers) there is no legal line to get into. They are allowed in when the work needs to get done and they are kicked out when there is no work.
5. The Mexican people legal and otherwise have played a huge role in the building up of the infrastructure of the SW USA.
6. America used to be a beacon of liberty, hospitality and dignity. Or ideally it was. Here’s hoping we return to those values.

Posted by: fortressAZ | April 29, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to point out some major logical fallacies that i found:

1. this entire article is an appeal to fear: you are basically saying that the law will severely burden citizens and illegal immigrants alike and is extremely discriminatory, when really, law enforcement will simply ask to see a driver's license if they have a PROBABLE CAUSE, such as a large group of workers standing around a bench. They don't necessarily have to be hispanic, so it is not discriminatory. Also, people have nothing to worry about if they aren't doing anything wrong, so stop freaking out!

2. False Analogy: "By way of analogy, an entrance exam for college entry is expected. An entry exam at a polling place in unconstitutional". You cannot compare this to the immigration law simply because it is irrelevant and fails to recognize changes in circumstances. You are forgetting that asking for ID is not unconstitutional because it is asked for under PROBABLE CAUSE and IS relevant to the law.

Posted by: amandagonzo | April 29, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Why do I have feeling that they hate even legal immigrants?

Posted by: BOBSTERII | April 29, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

"The failure to comprehend such a basic distinction reveals a fundamental lack of empathy."

Bingo. "A fundamental lack of empathy" seems to be a primary characteristic of most conservatives.

Posted by: rashomon | April 29, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I absolutely agree with everyone. And the next time some Nazi at the airport or the courthouse asks me to "show me your papers" I'm going to tell him to go take a hike. I'm going to claim racism, sexism, homophobia, whatever. There is no reason for anyone to ever have to "show me your papers".

Posted by: zrakoplovom | April 29, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WORD ILLEGAL MEANS??? WHEN IS IT WRONG TO ENFORCE THE LAWS OF THE USA?? HISPANICS SAY THEY ARE BEING TARGETED.BUT ARE THEY NOT IN FACT ASKING FOR SPECIAL TREATMENT???ARE THEY ABOVE THE LAW??????? THE MEXICAN-AMERICANS[WHICH I HAVE MANY FRIENDS]MOSTLY[ LIKE WHITE AND BLACK AMERICAS]ARE HARD WORKING PEOPLE.IN MY STATE AND MANY OTHERS WE ARE HAVING MAJOR INFIANCIAL PROBLEMS,THAT IS CAUSING HARDSHIP FOR ALL AMERICANS!! SOME OF WHICH IS CAUSED BY ILLEGAL ALIENS OF ALL NATIONALITY IN 1982[WHILE WORKING AT PALO VERDE ] I WAS STOPPED AND QUESTIONED BY IMMERGRATION. I WAS NOT INSULTED OR ANGRY ,I REALIZED THESE PEOPLE WERE SIMPLY DOING THERE JOBS OF UPHOLDING THE LAWS OF THE USA. GET REAL AMERICA NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!!ILLEGALS ARE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD NOT HAVE SPECIAL TREATMENT.

Posted by: desertdreamer1945 | April 29, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Who is this article directed at? Most folks out in the hinterland don't want advice from resident elites in New York City or Washington D C. The prevailing attitude is that you are running the country into the ground.

Posted by: althusius | April 29, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

DOES ANYONE NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT ILLEGAL MEANS? WHILE COMPLAINING THERE ARE BEING TARGETED AREN'T THE IN FACT ASKING FOR SPECIAL TREATMENT??TO BE EXEMPED FROM THE LAW. IS ANYONE ABOVE THE LAW REGARDLESS OF THEIR NATIONALITY OR SKIN COLOR??? IN 1982 WHILE WORKING AT PALO VERDE I WAS STOPPED AND QUESTIONED BY IMMERGRATION. I WAS NOT INSULTED OR ANGRY I REALIZED THAT THESE PEOPLE WERE SIMPLEY DOING THEIR JOB OF UPHOLDING THE LAWS OF THE USA.

Posted by: desertdreamer1945 | April 29, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I really don't understand this racial profiling BS...It's not like we have tens of thousands of Japanese or Belgians or even Russians crossing into this country illegally through the Mexican border. No doubt the ACLU will be all over this. They don't even know who the most discimminated person is in this country. I am not racist at all..However I would like to know where my job is based on skin color(affirmative action)...How come I don't see the WET(white entertainment channel)BET,OMG heavan forbid if that happened.and now we have people who are asking for special treatment...Wheres my special treatment for being a white european.

Posted by: steveouth123 | April 29, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I really don't understand this racial profiling BS...It's not like we have tens of thousands of Japanese or Belgians or even Russians crossing into this country illegally through the Mexican border. No doubt the ACLU will be all over this. They don't even know who the most discimminated person is in this country. I am not racist at all..However I would like to know where my job is based on skin color(affirmative action)...How come I don't see the WET(white entertainment channel)BET,OMG heavan forbid if that happened.and now we have people who are asking for special treatment...Wheres my special treatment for being a white european.

Posted by: steveouth123 | April 29, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I really don't understand this racial profiling BS...It's not like we have tens of thousands of Japanese or Belgians or even Russians crossing into this country illegally through the Mexican border. No doubt the ACLU will be all over this. They don't even know who the most discimminated person is in this country. I am not racist at all..However I would like to know where my job is based on skin color(affirmative action)...How come I don't see the WET(white entertainment channel)BET,OMG heavan forbid if that happened.and now we have people who are asking for special treatment...Wheres my special treatment for being a white european.

Posted by: steveouth123 | April 29, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Generalize is exactly right. This law is not a bad law, but it is inevitable that some Latinos (citizens and legal immigrants) will be accidentally targeted. Therefore, the citizens of Arizona should ask the Legislature to change the law to say that police will determine the citizenship status of EVERY person with whom they have contact, not just those they suspect of being illegal. This means that most of their efforts will be spent on legal (mostly non-Latino) residents, but it also means eliminating the ethnicity component from the argument.

Posted by: Rex123 | April 29, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

I think we should target those people that hire illegal immigrants. Throw them in jail. Most illegals came here because some business offered them money. Enforce the existing laws. Fix the immigration and visa process so that workers can be hired legally. It would also help if our own unemployed citizens would work in the fields and service jobs. I don't blame the illegals for coming here, if I was in their shoes I would probably take the risk too. But American businesses need to hire Americans.

Posted by: KD11 | April 29, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Rex123. I think that would be a huge waste of time and resources. if you were looking for an axe murderer wouldn't you start focusing your efforts on people wielding axes, or would you run around asking everyone but the guy with the bloody axe, so he isn't offended that you noticed it? It is a physical characteristic, not a judgment of worth. Again, physical characteristic, like brown hair. Not a judgment of worth. And what is all this mess about empathy? Its rough all over, we don't want murderers sneaking into our country raping and selling drugs. If you want to work, there is a legal way to get here.

Posted by: rutler85 | April 29, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Michael Gerson is wrong. It is stupid NOT to single out the Hispanics since they are the ones abusing immigration. I don't see Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Indians, or any other race noticeably sneaking into the Unites States in defiance of the law. Just the Hispanics via the Mexican corridor.

Posted by: penniless_taxpayer | April 29, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

to all,

as a retired LEO, may i simply say that the ILLEGALS that UNLAWFULLY cross our southern border USED to be 99% Hispanics.

NO MORE. - today MANY of the ILLEGALS apprehended by ICE agents are NOT Spanish-speaking & MANY of those "other than Mexicans" are DANGEROUS criminals who are NOT coming to this country to work. instead, they are crossing the border to COMMIT terrorist & violent criminal acts.

to protect Americans, we MUST seal the border & remove the CRIMINALS from our midst.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 30, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

I have been wondering how KKKonservatives would break on the Arizona law after all, one man's "reasonable suspicion" is another's "civil rights violation". And since the RepubliKKKans brought us non-torture waterboarding and the President that supported such fantasy was from Texas, Texas seemed to be a good place to look.

So when Rick Perry, up and coming RepubliKKKan presidential candidate and a permanent walking salute to 'good hair' day, pronounced the law not right for Texas, I knew that the rumored provisions of KKKapital punsihment were not true. After all, why would this Governor, whose watch included the execution of an innocent man and who blocked its subsequent investigation, want to go into the Texas text books as soft on state sanctioned murder, especially of immigrants or those without sufficient resources to make a 'serious' campaign contribution?

Posted by: bgreen2224 | April 30, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely.

Aside from the question of whether this law is unconstitutional, how can any intellectually honest conservative support such a broad expansion of police powers? Are conservatives for limited government, or not?
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Yeah, the cops asking for ID is such a broad expansion of power. I've never had a cop not ask me for ID. Liberal arguments on this are so stupid, because everybody knows they only care about cheap drugs for their parties and cheap mexican labor to mow their lawns.

Posted by: peterg73 | April 30, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

bgreen2224;peterg73; all DIMocrats; ALL,

BGREEN & PETERG: are either of you REALLY ignorant enough to believe that hate-FILLED, STUPID, fiction that you both posted?

to all DIMocRATS: WHEN are you DUNCES, of the DIMocRATS party, going to throw out your KLANSMAN (Robert "KKK" Byrd, DIMocRAT of WV) out of your party & into the street outside the Capitol on hi little pointed/hooded head? = until you do that chore, you should keep your COLLECTIVE mouths as tightly CLOSED, as your TINY/BIGOTED minds are.
(your President RECENTLY called Robert "KKK" Byrd a "A SHINING STAR OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY, a leading light of the US Senate & a dear friend of ours".)

TOLERATING a stinking, filthy, KLANSMAN in your party is just as EVIL as BEING a member of the KKK is.

to all: now you know WHY we call them: DIMocRATS & BIGOTS.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | April 30, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

To oppose this law one must support chaos, criminal activity, Voter fraud, drug running, gangs and Cartels to run rampant in our country. Somewhere between 11 and 25 million hispanic illegals have decided to demand special rights to live above the law in our Nation. Will they succeed in intimidating our politicians and threatening law abiding citizens? Make the best of it because our politicians will sell out for Votes every time. Law abiding Americans can only try to do their best to protect their loved ones and property from this onslaught. The Democrats won't help and are facilitating this disaster for political gain. With the assistance of the liberal media they will succeed and law abiding citizens will fail. This may be our last chance to vote for politicians that take a hard line on illegal immigration. Do the right thing in November and remember the liberal media will fight you all the way.

Posted by: quillerm | May 4, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

What gives Gerson the right to tell "conservatives" how to think?

He is about as far as one can get from a true conservative. He is a tool for the Bush Dynasty and their rich elitist friends from all over the world. Gerson comes from the One-World, Anything-for-a-Buck, Big Business wing of the GOP.

Gerson telling conservatives how to think is like me telling Hindus how to pray.

Posted by: pmendez | May 4, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

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