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Carly Fiorina doesn't get a pass on comment about Boxer's hair

What is this, middle school? I was all set to sit down and write about women in politics, and applaud Tuesday's results, when off pops the new Republican nominee for senator from California, Carly Fiorina, with a comment that takes you back to the cattiness of the school cafeteria.

Fiorina, all miked up but not yet ready to be on the air -- and, I think it's fair to suggest, perhaps not ready for prime time -- described an aide who saw her opponent, Sen. Barbara Boxer, on television "and said what everyone says: 'God, what is that hair? Sooo yesterday.'"

Adding insult to insult, Fiorina didn't back down when asked about the comment by Fox's Greta Van Susteren. "I was quoting a friend of mine," said Fiorina, who lost her hair during cancer treatment and is now sporting what my mother would call a pixie cut. "My goodness, my hair's been talked about by a million people, you know? It sort of goes with the territory."

No no no no no! It does go with the territory that women in politics have more attention paid to their appearance than male candidates. It doesn't go with the territory that one candidate -- female or male -- gets a free pass for dissing an opponent's looks.

For heaven's sake, John Edwards got in hot water during one debate for joking about Hillary Clinton's choice of jacket. The point of having women in politics was not to produce a "Mean Girls" sequel in the form of the California Senate race.

So what I was going to write was a lot cheerier. It wasn't just about how many women won on Tuesday: Fiorina and Republican gubernatorial nominee Meg Whitman in California; Sen. Blanche Lincoln against the pundit-decreed odds in the Arkansas Democratic primary; probable GOP gubernatorial nominee Nikki Haley in South Carolina; Republican Senate nominee Sharron Angle in Nevada. It was about how the typology of female candidates has changed even as the phenomenon of being a female candidate has diminished in importance.

At the risk of incurring the wrath of PTA moms -- they're not just PTA moms anymore. Or widows and daughters of male politicians. Fiorina and Whitman are former chief executives of major companies (Hewlett-Packard and eBay, respectively). Lincoln is an incumbent senator. Haley broke some kind of gender barrier as a female candidate for major office caught up in an alleged sex scandal. Angle seems like a nut, but at least a self-made nut.

Meanwhile, as The Washington Post's Anne E. Kornblut pointed out, "gender never became much of an issue" in this year's campaign. In California, former and would-be future Gov. Jerry Brown will be, literally, the odd man out among three female candidates at the top of the ticket. The nation's largest state could easily have a woman in the governor's chair and, however the election turns out, will continue to have two female senators. That's pretty remarkable.

"It could be a bit of an indication of something resembling progress," Debbie Walsh, director of the Center for American Women and Politics at Rutgers University, told Kornblut about the election results.

Alas, that was before Fiorina's unfortunate detour. Carly, talking about your opponent's looks? Sooo yesterday. And when middle-schoolers get caught talking trash, a grown-up makes sure they apologize.

By Ruth Marcus  | June 10, 2010; 2:48 PM ET
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Comments

Fiorina was a disaster at HP. And now? What a joke.

Posted by: alamo2 | June 10, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

More cheesy, two-bit, white trash soap operas from the Huckabees. Don't they have better things to do, like help their fellow Republican Donohue Catholics hide their pervert priests?

Posted by: areyousaying | June 10, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Not to be picky, but the State of Washington has had a woman governor and two women senators for a while now...

Posted by: SouthSound3L | June 10, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Gee, Carly certainly had her "macaca" moment early in the campaign.

Posted by: BBear1 | June 10, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

And who does Marcus think she is - the Unmpire?

Posted by: GaryEMasters | June 10, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

"Gee, Carly certainly had her "macaca" moment early in the campaign."

Not even close. Just because you can remember something, it does not mean you can understand what it meant.

Racial slurs are nothing like comments on hair. Anyone who thinks so is clearly not informed.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | June 10, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

The whole pre interview is worth watching to understand Ms. Fiorina in an unscripted venue. If she lived in my neighborhood, I'd avoid her. Toothache of a candidate. I feel pity for the hard up people who have to work for her because they cant find somebody better who has as much money. In a rotten economy, we all have to make sacrifices. Ms. Fiorina is one of those odd people who think they have something to offer everyone since they got fired from their last two gigs.

Posted by: MikeKelly45 | June 10, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Carly "Short Hairs" should tell us all about the 30,000 HP workers she scuttled and how she outsourced HP jobs....

Other than that, I couldn't care less what this hypocritical hag has to say.

Posted by: EdSantaFe | June 10, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

The typology of female candidates may have changed but the behavior of politicians has not. Welcome to the trash talking female candidate.

Posted by: publius1 | June 10, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

The typology of female candidates may have changed but the behavior of politicians has not. Welcome to the trash talking female candidate.

Posted by: publius1 | June 10, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Did you expect more mature behavior from Carly? For god's sake, she was endorsed by $ARAH PALIN.

Carly is just the latest MEAN GIRL candidate to appear on the scene, whose development was arrest sometime during her middle school years.

But honestly: as a cancer survivor who's had her own issues with "bad hair" (or even NO HAIR), you'd think that Carly wouldn't have gone there. The fact that she did speaks volumes about her complete lack of class and extremely poor character.

My cleaning lady would be a better candidate than Carly! She's never been fired.

Posted by: goldengateview | June 10, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Barbara Boxer is more beatiful inside and out! Barbara Boxer is in touch with the average american on all issues.

Fiorina should keep her mouth shut. When looking at Fiorina's hair and appearance, she is in no position to critize others. The arrogance and pettiness just makes her even less attrative as a person and a candidate. Get over yourself!

Posted by: amylj | June 10, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Women want it all ways; they say they want equality, but then you hear them talking in the lunch room about menopause, or their periods, and being 'hormonal'. Women can't help themselves, their bodies and socialization overrides and undermines their desire for equality.

Posted by: pamschuh9 | June 10, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Is this really a story? Give me a break. Fiorina says something about Boxer's hair and off you go on a tangent. But you can call Sharon Angle a "nut" and that's ok? It's not like Fiorina threatened to cut off Obama's nuts during an open mic. (That was excused because it was Jesse Jackson and he's a democrat. Fox news was blasted for having released that tidbit. There seems to be no outrage at CNN for releasing this tape. If it were Boxer, it wouldn't have been released at all. What Boxer says in public - on the record - is nuttier than what Fiorina said (don't call me Ma'am, General).

Posted by: jtinnlv | June 10, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

To "jtinniv" from 3:57 pm:

There's a difference here: Sharon Angle IS a nut.

Thanks for playing.

Posted by: goldengateview | June 10, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Ms Fiorina certainly can't run on her success at HP. She nearly destroyed the company. So, she does what all politicians do, talk about something she does not like about Senator Boer. Her hair.

Add another 5 year old to the mix.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | June 10, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Carly is pretty catty. Is this what we have gained with the emergence of women candidates? It is hard to imagine male political adversaries obsessing about their opponents hair styles. Besides, has Carly looked in the mirror? Her do isn't much to shout about. As interesting as her opinion about hair styles is, why hasn't more been made of her dissing Sean Hannity? That would seem to be the real story. She thinks Whitman made a mistake by scheduling an appearance on his show: "You know how he is." What does that mean? How much "T" is in her cup?

Posted by: csintala79 | June 10, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Ruth, you chose unwisely. You should have gone ahead and written the piece you were planning and not have taken your time and our time with this dud.

Talk about a non-issue!

Posted by: bryanmcoleman | June 10, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

This was an embarassing display of immaturity that would make me cringe if I was the voter. A grown woman belittled an elderly woman and she is supposed to represent our country in a levelheaded fashion. This was very revealing and ugly.

Posted by: jackson641 | June 10, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I am not a Republican and will not vote for her, but this is very trivial indeed. As if there are not about a thousand more important subjects to be discussing.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | June 10, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

"Barbara Boxer is more beatiful inside and out! Barbara Boxer is in touch with the average american on all issues."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know you were serious.

Posted by: Azarkhan | June 10, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm searching high and low on washingtonpost.com for the article from this columnist declaring comments about Palin's appearance to be out of bounds. You know, the snide comments about the $150k spent on her wardrobe, or her personal appearance, or that she's just a beauty queen who gets by on her looks.

Funny, but I can't seem to find that article, no matter how hard I look.

Posted by: bryancohen1 | June 10, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Ah, I see. It's OK for you to call a REPUBLICAN female candidate a "nut" but not OK for a Republican candidate to comment on a Democrat candidate's hair. Got it!

Posted by: ajudoka | June 10, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

TO: GaryEMasters who wrote:
"Gee, Carly certainly had her "macaca" moment early in the campaign."
“…Racial slurs are nothing like comments on hair. Anyone who thinks so is clearly not informed.”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No need to expect “racial slurs” from either of these candidates.
They’re both caucasian.

That said, there's no way Fiorina has a chance. She can't get enough votes in California to support her nasty political tactics, or her Tea Bagger mentality.

She may have bought her way through the primaries, but now that she's on the political map, she'll be looked at and taken for exactly what she is:
A old nag.

One blogger claims that the reason Fiorina was near bald was because she has cancer and was receiving chemotherapy.

I've blogged and no confirmation of that.
Maybe she was trying to hard to look man-ish and had all her hair cut down to make her look more butch.


Posted by: lindalovejones | June 10, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Huh???? Journalist (?) Marcus doesn't get a pass for trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill with some two-bit catty remark. At least she's transparent in her subjectivity and integrity or lack thereof.

Posted by: Calabrese99 | June 10, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Yawn! Is this really what you're writing about? Let me explain something to all of you primates. Boxer is a MORON! She is a large part of the reason why your state is in shambles. Stop voting with a nanny state mentality and get Fiorina in there so she can help bail your azzes out!

Posted by: holdfast | June 10, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I see have you all have conveniently forgotten how Palin was trashed by the Libs and, in fact, still is. See the HuffPo speculation on her asset augmentation.

Posted by: jnpublic | June 10, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

"I'm searching high and low on washingtonpost.com for the article from this columnist declaring comments about Palin's appearance to be out of bounds. You know, the snide comments about the $150k spent on her wardrobe, or her personal appearance, or that she's just a beauty queen who gets by on her looks.

Funny, but I can't seem to find that article, no matter how hard I look."
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And you never will, because leftists are hypocritical a-holes.

Posted by: Azarkhan | June 10, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Is is supremely ironic that the supposedly more Progessive party is the one that now seems sooo old... and sooo tired and... well... "soo yesterday!" Man, that changed fast.

Posted by: Guarapari | June 10, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

More about Al and Tipper's divorce please!
And the divorcee daughter too.

Posted by: pamschuh9 | June 10, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Another distasteful comment from a Republican, but that's just what Americans expect from this bunch of uninformed representatives.
www.thethrifters.net

Posted by: dtroppy | June 10, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

California is going into the toilet, the Country is falling into the abyss and people want to make hair an issue???

Posted by: lutzbrehmer | June 10, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

When did everyone in the country get such thin skins? Grow a little hide, people. I heard some nurse on the radio yesterday complaining that she felt "scrutinized" by her boss. A week ago some loon wrote an op-ed about how we need laws protecting plain-looking people from job discrimination. Now an off-hand remark about hair is a headline. A nation of crybabies.

Posted by: sheehanjc | June 10, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

primates as in neanderthals! Gotta be PC in CA!

Posted by: holdfast | June 10, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Liberals just can't get over reality! Women will be women, thank God they are conservative women!

Posted by: ameriapp | June 10, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey Marcus - were you criticizing the Dems when the made fat jokes about the NOW Republican govn of NJ? I doubt it. Please send us the link where you expressed concern about Dems making comments about looks of Republican politicians. Go ahead, we'll wait....well maybe not, because you now you did not. Your LEFT WING biases are evident here, not to mention your hypocrisy. r/ Bedrock Guy

Posted by: historian1 | June 10, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

What is the problem here? She was sharing an anecdote about something a friend said (in the clip, you can clearly hear her say "Laura saw Barbara Boxer briefly on television this morning...").
Watch the rest of the video- she's just talking about Hannity and hamburgers. She seems pretty in-touch with the everyman (or woman, as the case may be) to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cTk3XIrZ3w

Posted by: geomike99 | June 10, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Hey Marcus - were you criticizing the Dems when they made fat jokes about the NOW Republican govn of NJ? I doubt it. Please send us the link where you expressed concern about Dems making comments about the looks of Republican politicians. Go ahead, we'll wait....well maybe not, because you know you never did. It's only an issue when the R team makes these comments. Your LEFT WING biases are evident here, not to mention your hypocrisy. r/ Bedrock Guy

Posted by: historian1 | June 10, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Marcus....get a life. Problem with Liberals is this is what they focus on....Hair comments. Who cares. Waste of space. I'd say try to worry about the issues, but from a leftist/marxist/socialist/fascist/"progressive," we get your point of view every day on the network news.

Posted by: rewerdrwcom | June 10, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

We're only getting a portion of the conversation that tooks place. Let's face it, it's not Fiorina who is childish, it is the person who leaked the video.

I am sure there are soundbites that would embarass almost all of our elected leaders if the people who saw/filmed them decided behave with less integrity.

Give it rest and focus on the issues.

Posted by: eliahs474 | June 10, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

We in California surely will NOT send a two-bit catty remark making Fiorina to Washington, especially since she'd rather be caught making two-bit catty remarks instead of being caught making substantive comments on the state of the economy and/or what she plans to do about it.

I have an idea of what Carly Fiorina plans to do in Washington: Make more two-bit catty remarks and hang out doing nothing with the rest of the lazy do-nothing Republicans who are already there.


Posted by: lindalovejones | June 10, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Florina's comment was silly but not worth a whole column. One sentence would suffice. What is worth commenting on is what exactly does she bring to the Senate? She was not a good CEO, her positions are out of step with the majority of Californians, and there is nothing in her resume that gives any indication she should be preferred over Barbara Boxer.

Posted by: serban1 | June 10, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

The best thing about Fiorina, is that she is NOT Boxer. Turn over the whole lot of the house and senate.

Posted by: dricha8548 | June 10, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

"One blogger claims that the reason Fiorina was near bald was because she has cancer and was receiving chemotherapy.

I've blogged and no confirmation of that." lindalovejones
---

Poor thing! Here you go. Now just COPY and PASTE. OK? Can you do that? If not, you might want to ask an eight year old for help.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/04/business/04fiorina.html

Posted by: Azarkhan | June 10, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Yawn. If a guy was caught on an open mike saying that he thought his male opponent's dye job looked ridiculous, or that he dressed like a slob, or that his ties got lousy reception, we'd all chuckle and move on. Why should the rules be any different if the candidates are women? Isn't that, you know, sexist?

If Ms. Marcus raised holy hell when Corzine's campaign all but accused Christie of being a fat tub of lard, I'd cut her some slack for at least being consistent. Maybe she did criticize him for that. Can't recall.

Or if she got all up in Boxer's face for lecturing that military officer for calling her ma'am, maybe I'd cut her some slack for consistent calls for civility and decorum in the political arena.

As it is, who cares?

And seriously, what is up with Boxer's hair anyway? Girlfriend looks frostier than my old freezer.


Posted by: dcpost1 | June 10, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Politicians!! Woman? Man? Republican? Democrat? Who cares. Looks like California's got itself a real deep thinker to challenge for the senate seat. Just what we all need to lead us through these difficult times.

Posted by: kermit5 | June 10, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Yawn. If a guy was caught on an open mike saying that he thought his male opponent's dye job looked ridiculous, or that he dressed like a slob, or that his ties got lousy reception, we'd all chuckle and move on. Why should the rules be any different if the candidates are women? Isn't that, you know, sexist?

If Ms. Marcus raised holy hell when Corzine's campaign all but accused Christie of being a fat tub of lard, I'd cut her some slack for at least being consistent. Maybe she did criticize him for that. Can't recall.

Or if she got all up in Boxer's face for lecturing that military officer for calling her ma'am, maybe I'd cut her some slack for consistent calls for civility and decorum in the political arena.

As it is, who cares?

(And seriously, what is up with Boxer's hair anyway? Girlfriend looks frostier than my old freezer.)

Posted by: dcpost1 | June 10, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

@amylj:
Boxer is "in touch with the average American on all issues?"

You've got to be kidding me. I think you actually believe that. Put the pitcher down and wipe the red K00l-Aid stains from your mouth, dear.

Someone might mistake you for a nut.

Posted by: crusoe | June 10, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

It's actually women who focus upon female politicians dress, hair, and style. Not suggesting that's how female voters make their choices by any means!

But the focus a female candidate's appearance receives is by and large created by other women. Fiorna's comment is just an example of that.

Posted by: divi3 | June 10, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Most of what comes out of DC is sophomoric drivel. Hearing comments from prospective candidates, for the most part, is on a much higher plane of intellect that practically all, with the exception of the erudite Ron Paul, of the meat pies who occupy a house and senate seat.

Posted by: schratboy | June 10, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what someone said about someone else's hair??? This kinda stuff makes the news these days??? My gosh .... I'm back in junior high school.

Posted by: playfair109 | June 10, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Senator Boxer deserves no respect from anyone. This is the same Senator Boxer who dressed down Brigadier General Michael Walsh in the Senate for neglecting to address her "properly" as "Senator" (or was it "your Highness"?) rather than the perfectly acceptable "ma'am." Was she perhaps suggesting she "worked" harder to get her title than the General did for his????

What a silly twit. I don't care who replaces her. She has to go!

Posted by: jfrykman | June 10, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

@dcpost1:
Awesome. Well said.

Posted by: crusoe | June 10, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Wait a second- this isn't only a female politician issue. I distinctly recall John Edwards or John Kerry claiming to have better hair than Bush/ Cheney.

Come to think of it- be hard to call John Edwards a man. He was quite the feminine man.

Posted by: nypaul61 | June 10, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Do yourself a favor and stick to writing about real issues. This is not something to flex your feminist bona fides over. How about writing about why you think Angle is nut? Name-calling without any rationale is childish. By the way, try going up to a kid in a middle school cafeteria these days and telling him/her to apologize when you hear trash talking. I'd like to see that.

Posted by: mddise | June 10, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

You ignorant Progressive Pigs.... the truth is November is a long way away... Boxer will get a couple of $550 do's by then... she will still be trash, and the voters will have long forgotten.... the tsunami is coming.

Posted by: farkel44 | June 10, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for not apologizing, Carly. It's refreshing in these days of U.S. self-haters.

Posted by: tw46 | June 10, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

This hair style dissing comment is a big deal? Nice try libs.

Posted by: Train413 | June 10, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

You go, Ruthie, baby! Hey honey, I called up that other hot Republican, Barbie-Doll chick, Sarah Palin, and asked her what she thought about people making cracks about other peoples' hair... and lipstick, and bra-size, and cute legs.

Sarah said, "I wouldn't know. It never happened to me. My political opponents were entirely above-board when I was a candidate. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm programming the DVR so I can record Letterman."

Posted by: ArcticFox1 | June 10, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

If Barbara Boxer gets her panties in a bunch over that comment then that's yet one more reason she has no business in the Senate.

I was much more offended by Boxer trying to chastize a general for calling her "Maam" (and making a jackass out of herself in the process).

Posted by: IUT1 | June 10, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

LOL, this is the best you can come up with? Give me a break! HAHAHAHAHA I think her whole "hair" comment was just peachy compared to Boxer telling a Brig. General to call her Senator instead of Ma'am. Puuullleeeessee. Seriously, this is the absolute BEST you can come up with?????

Posted by: jadrummond | June 10, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

What hypocrisy -- Sarah Palin is fair game to any rude, disgusting comment under the sun, but Barbara Boxer (god, I feel dirty just typing her name) should be spared from such comments. Can't have it both ways lady.

Posted by: BadNews | June 10, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Fiorina will blow Boxer away in November regardless of Boxer's hairstyle. Boxer is a far left radical (Oh, I'm sorry, it's SENATOR Boxer; I know she's worked very hard for that title) Bwa...ha...ha....

Posted by: goldenco5 | June 10, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

As an overtaxed Californian, I thought Fiorina's comment was great. No mercies should be reserved for Boxer after all of nonsense she's dragged my state through.

As to you clowns that keep trumpeting the dismissal of 30,000 HP workers: we call that "a business decision." Get used to it; no company owes you ANYTHING other than pay for time worked. I know this may be a shock after being spoon fed by the mediocrats of government for so long. Business is not charity and though Fiorina may be as much as a disaster as The Governator was for us, I'll give her a shot.

Remember: Boxer up and send her away!

Posted by: Megadan | June 10, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

That old baby-killing hag Boxer is HISTORY.

Maybe she can get a job with Harry Reid as door greeters at an Indian gaming casino. I understand her son has some pull with the tribes.

Posted by: maliknidal | June 10, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

TO: Train413 who wrote:
“This hair style dissing comment is a big deal? Nice try libs.”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If it isn’t a “big deal” then why’d she say it?
Poor manners or just a lack of class?
Maybe that’s the way Republicans like it:
Down and Dirty.
Anyway you put it, one could only hope for something better than the routing Republican sleezy poltics.

I guess she was unable to come up anything clever like how she might solve California’s problems, but then, we’ve all learned that Republicans don’t have any “plans” other than to take their afternoon nap and pick up their checks from Oil Company and Health Care Lobbyists for their “No votes” and continued non-leadership positions.


Posted by: lindalovejones | June 10, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Marcus,
Real political news must be scarce to come up with. This is petty political commentary made about a "Hair" quote.

It seems that this pro-partisan-Democrat paper salivates at the chance to make inane political comments about petty comments like this and others.

This commentary says more about the Washington Post than it does about this petty hair remark!

Posted by: reich2 | June 10, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Typical liberal Wash Post bullsheet.

Posted by: rpsboyz | June 10, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Bahahaha. She failed out of law school after one semester! LOL.

- During her time at HP, HP shares declined more than 50%.
- As HP CEO she shipped American jobs to India and China.
- She cut worker salaries by $130m while collecting $90m for herself.
- She collected a $42m golden parachute and $50k for career counseling.
- She is rated one of the 20 worst CEOs in history along w/ Ken Lay of Enron.
- Her leadership was "disastrous."

Chuck DeVore was the teaparty candidate, endorsed by the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Assoc. and Natl Tax Limitation Cmte (Carly distributed a mailer with the lie that they had endorsed her!). Lew Uhler, the NTLC prez wrote "Let me be clear, I do not support CF, her campaign's dishonest tactics are a disgrace."

Posted by: sm4269a | June 10, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

"If Barbara Boxer gets her panties in a bunch over that comment then that's yet one more reason she has no business in the Senate."

Panties? Doubt it. She's wearing Depend underwear for women. I mean, she is 70 years old!

Posted by: Azarkhan | June 10, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Oh, for Pete's sake ... democrats have said much worse picked up on open mikes.
This is much ado about nothing. At least, Carly's was a comment that was right on with no curse words used.

Posted by: grndmrbby | June 10, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Angle 50%
Reid 39%

with 60% of Nevadans saying they disapprove of Dingey Hairy.

Buh bye, Hairy.

...maybe you can get that door greeter gig at a casino in Winnemucca.
...a Buick dealership in Ely?

Posted by: maliknidal | June 10, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I don't care about catty comments, although it shows a certain immaturity on Fiorina's part, but why is there no discussion of multimillionaires (in Whitman's case a billionaire) buying the nominations. So much for campaign finance reform.

Posted by: ianstuart | June 10, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

The leftists will try anything but nothing will help this Boxer woman. She is one of the reasons California is a basket case now. Boxer is an old style, social Marxist who, nevertheless, loves money. Just another arch leftist hypocrit. My God, just looking at her, I get disgusted.

Posted by: walterndebby | June 10, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Carli, Shame on you. Since they take ol' Barb back to the funny farm every night, you're being cruel.

Posted by: gto582000 | June 10, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Carly could moon her audience from now till the November elections and she'd still have more class than Barbara Boxer.

Posted by: AnnieP1 | June 10, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Judging the quality of a politician based on what they say into an open mic seems like a frivolous game to play. Why are we calling women in leadership catty? Aren't you supporting the double standard by remaining silent on Biden's "Big f-ing deal" statement, or what about Obama's "a** kicking" statemnt (not a hot-mic). PostPartison - sorry, but you gave yourself away here. It seems you will attack what threatens you.

Posted by: marnold1980 | June 10, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Carli, Shame on you. Since they take ol' Barb back to the funny farm every night, you're being cruel.

Posted by: gto582000 | June 10, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Carli, Shame on you. Since they take ol' Barb back to the funny farm every night, you're being cruel.

Posted by: gto582000 | June 10, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

This is the kind of thing you dedicate your column to???! It's ALMOST funny, but isn't. If I were the editor you'd be looking for a job.

So tell us - Barbara Boxer didn't have HER "macaca" moment when she told General Michael Walsh, "Don't call me Ma'am" as he was answering her at a Senate hearing???
What a snobby out of touch #%@&^ she is.

All she's done in CA is vote for huge expenditures time after time. You libs are all loony.

Fiorina for Senator. Don't waste your vote on Boxer, folks.

Posted by: bdbop | June 10, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

This is NOT news. It's not even mildly informative. This is just kind of sad. Fiorina doesn't like Boxer's haircut. Should I care? Sorry but I don't. I honestly don't think I've ever really noticed Boxer's hair. So I was compelled to go find a picture or two of her hair. Looks fine to me. In fact, for her age, Barbara Boxer is actually quite an attractive lady. She's 69 years old!

What I do notice about Barbara Boxer (and find quite unattractive) is her outrageous, radical political views and actions over the years. This woman is as nutty as a fruitcake. If Carly Fiorina wins in November, I trust it will be on substance and not hair style.

Posted by: whosiwhatzit | June 10, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Carli, Shame on you. Since they take ol' Barb back to the funny farm every night, you're being cruel.

Posted by: gto582000 | June 10, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Carli, Shame on you. Since they take ol' Barb back to the funny farm every night, you're being cruel.

Posted by: gto582000 | June 10, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Carli, Shame on you. Since they take ol' Barb back to the funny farm every night, you're being cruel.

Posted by: gto582000 | June 10, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Carli, Shame on you. Since they take ol' Barb back to the funny farm every night, you're being cruel.

Posted by: gto582000 | June 10, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

lighten up. her hair does look like crap as does the hair of the author of this annoying piece.
how many people have been commenting on blago's hair. good grief. seems people are more offended by the fact that a republican dissed a democrat.

Posted by: kopihory | June 10, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Well, add that to the speculation that Sarah Palin must have had a boob job recently, or that South Carolina candidate Nicky Haley has been sleeping around.

I give stupid, girly stories like this about the same credence I give global warming "studies".

None whatsoever.

Posted by: bob-dog | June 10, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

of course Carly gets no pass, she is a conservative.... anyone who saw the whole thing knows:
A) she was set up by CNN
B) she probably knew it and figured they could use the ratings boost from all the attention she would get
C) her comment about Boxer's hair was related to her experience of losing hers from her cancer treatment...

now if we want to discuss issues, why is the Obama Administration getting a big ol 4 yr pass?
thats something to discuss...

Posted by: jeepster949 | June 10, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Thirty to forty percent of Democrats today are hard left liberals and would vote for ANYONE with a D after their name. They have no flexibility, no sense, no moral direction, hate God and Jesus, hate the constitution, want to kill babies by the millions, hate our military and hate America as it once was and what the founders like Jefferson and Madison wanted. And we are supposed to take their insane posts on this comment page seriously? No Thanks. They are irrelevant without the other fifteen to twenty percent of real American democrats. You remember the old Democratic Party don't you? That’s the party of Scoop Jackson, JFK, Harry Truman and Sam Nunn. You remember them. Honest opposition, not the anti-America progressive-liberal morons that infect the Democratic Party today. The Democrat Party (ie, liberals, progressives, Marxists, socialists) is the culture of corruption. As usual, the Washington Post and their army of liberal writers find something to pick about. Get a life Marcus. Did you say anything about Boxer and her remarks to Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh about being called “Senator.”

Posted by: rchaa27aa | June 10, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Well Ruth, you have to admit, it looks like a dead beaver sitting on top of Babs Boxer's head.

After "The Year of the Woman" in California (1992), one has to notice the correlation between the elections of Feinstein and Boxer, along with the oncoming of other liberals in the state, to it's fiscal demise and near bankruptcy.

I never liked her (she, Pelosi and Feinstein are among the reasons why I left the state in the mid-90's) and her only claim to fame is being a Clinton In-Law. She has done more to help exacerbate the fiscal failings of California, by not stemming the flow of illegal immigration and being a big spender of Other People's Money, than any other California Senator.

Frankly, I think she's intellectually brain-dead, as well. As far as I am concerned, California should just slip into the sea.

Posted by: Computer_Forensics_Expert_Computer_Expert_Witness | June 10, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

@lindalovejones: Let me get this straight, you criticize Fiorina for making two-bit catty remarks, and in your own post you essentially called her or accused her of aspiring to be: a Tea Bagger, an old nag, and man-ish/butch.

I'm still chuckling. By the way, I think instead of "blogging" for information you might try "searching" for information. You might have more luck that way.

Posted by: AZBoy | June 10, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

It never suprises me how Obambi and his "Fellow Travelers" in the media, especially the "girls", get so catty at everything a Republican woman does. Face it - repub women are a lot better looking and carry themselves with a lot more class that the Obambi girl brigade. How many pantsuits does Clinton own? Her legs must be elephant sized. No wonder Bill got his elswhere.

Posted by: emyers12345 | June 10, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Where was the outrage when Biden and Reid make quasi-racist and at least, condescending comments about Obama's skin color? The liberal media whines when it fit them then, ignores it when its their own. The WaPo has no credibility.

Posted by: tcsi | June 10, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Seriously Marcus, this is the best you've got?

Posted by: markmeed | June 10, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

CEO Magazine once again gave Caleefornia their "Boobie Award" as the Worst Business State in America. Carli's decision to move 30,000 jobs out of Caleefornia makes sense to any rational business manager....Caleefornia is the last place on Earth to invest capital or labor...unless you're running a Taco Bell.

Posted by: maliknidal | June 10, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh and one more thing.... Sen. Boxer is soooooo bad a senator that even the uber-liberal LA Times failed to endorse her. And said so. "We're not endorsing anybody."

Now THAT's news...

Posted by: ArcticFox1 | June 10, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Carly F. has made many bad decisions in her time, but she was right this time. Of course she doesn't owe Barbara Boxer an apology for making a trivial comment about Boxer's hair in what she thought was a private, casual conversation with an acquaintance! If anyone owes and apology here it is CNN. The comment was not newsworthy and never should have been released.

If we're going to talk about childish, lets talk about the CNN editor who decided to release the stupid tape. Sorry Ruth, but lets also talk about how childish it is not to understand that we all have opinions on thousands of trivial things and sometimes express them in conversations with people we know.

Posted by: exco | June 10, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Give me a break. She wasn't talking to the interviewer. This is a ridicules article.

Posted by: Mswn27 | June 10, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

hahaha, but you see this is how women are, and why there are so few in high office.

"I disagree with her stance on the budget deficient, and did you see those shoes she had on?!?!"

I hope she calls her a fatso at the debate, that would really make for good TV.

Posted by: Dremit97 | June 10, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

What a silly column. First off, apparently Marcus has a selective memory. Ronald Reagan commented, publicly, about Gerald Ford's "prematurely orange hair." Ronald Reagan was repeatedly taken to task for dying his hair, which, in fact, he did not do.

To continue, Governor Blagojevich has been roundly ridiculed for his Beatles haircut (so "Yesterday," with apologies to Paul McCartney. And John Edwards was ridiculed by Mitt Romney for his "Breck Girl" moment in front of the make-up mirror playing with his hair.

Boxer, with her hideous dyed hair, looks like a cross between a John Travolta in Welcome Back, Kotter and a bag woman.

Appearances count for something in politics as in all public walks of life. Ms. Marcus, you need a new hairdo as well, which is probably why you don't get it. Jack Thompson, Miami, Florida

Posted by: amendmentone | June 10, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

I know some of you say this is trivial, but Ms. Fiorina has really clarified why we have to be careful about electing women to public office. You never know when one of them might have a hairdo that is "so yesterday." And thank goodness we have somebody like Ms. Fiorina to tell us. Most voters are so out of it when it comes to current events that we wouldn't even know what kind of hairdo Barbara Boxer has. I know I don't, and I follow her career fairly closely, considering I'm from New York.

Posted by: landsend | June 10, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

The only nice thing I can say about Barbara Boxer is that I like her nose job

Being from Long Island I have seen a lot of them

Posted by: LIBOB | June 10, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Obama administration's efforts to pull the US out of recession haven't succeeded, according to Naseem Taleb, author of The Black Swan.

"It's not that they make mistakes, it's that they almost get nothing right." Moreover, a second major stimulus package may be futile, he warned.
"Obama promised us 8 percent unemployment through stimulus. It hasn't worked." There are significantly more liabilities in the US than in other countries around the world, he said.
"Don't give a junkie more drugs, don't give a debt junkie more debt."

http://www.cnbc.com/id/37610064

Ruth, sweetheart, why don't you stop writing drivel and, well, try covering something a bit more important.

Posted by: Azarkhan | June 10, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Whatever. Boxer's presence in the United States Senate is a national disgrace. As well as being a tireless, shameless shill for the abortion industry, she is a vulgar, grotesque ignoramus with the IQ of a doorknob.

Posted by: thebump | June 10, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

GO CARLY!!!!!!!!!!

Boxer is a beast.

Posted by: jans1 | June 10, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Hair. Edwards, Clinton, Blagojevich. It's not like it hasn't been an issue before or that it's limited to women. But usually the polls let others make the snarky comments.

Fiorina made a faux pas on two counts. She appears petty. And she may call attention to how much she spends on coiffure, nails, spa treatments, wardrobe. She's going to have a hard time pretending to represent Joe Sixpack or the Tea Party crowd. She's pure establishment insider with a house in the Hamptons. Palin has diluted her own brand with her endorsement of Fiorina - what does Palin stand for?

Posted by: j3hess | June 10, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

the real issue isn't the comment as such, it's that she comes off as an immature twit. add that to her record of nearly destroying a major company with her incompetence and poor judgment, and it's no wonder the Republicans love her.

Posted by: JoeT1 | June 10, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Looking at Barbara "don't call me M'am" Boxer, I think Ms Fiorino might have said "That FACE--so last century." Barbara Boxer is an arrogant, mean-spirited, greedy, spoiled old woman--the separated at birth twin of Nancy Pelosi. She's history--and November can't come too soon. For those on this form who continue to sneer at anyone right of Stalin, sneer now --quickly--before your elected representatives--notably the POTUS--embarrasses you so completely that you will already be flattened before stomped into the ground by the rush for the exits.

Posted by: mezzonotte | June 10, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Boxer looks like she's been whipped with an ugly stick. Of course most leftwingnut women do (with the exception of Barney Frank)-haha

Posted by: smithstar4 | June 10, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha... It's pretty entertaining watching all these women taking cheap shots at each other. That's one reason it took so long for them to get the right to vote. The more things change, the more they stay the same. And NOBODY better forget that it's SENATOR Boxer!! How dare someone refer to her by a term generally considered COURTEOUS and DEFERENTIAL in POLITE circles. But then again, Mzzzz Boxer knows nothing about polite circles and decorum. Here's hoping the mentally challenged Senator from California gets her head handed to her this November... This is gonna be good!!!

Posted by: bruceschaefer | June 10, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Get a grip, Ruth. Ronald Reagan's on-mike faux pas was that "the bombing would begin in five minutes..." Just because these folks become candidates doesn't mean they can't still be light hearted and blow off steam. As Ms. Fiorina described, you don't think her hair hasn't been the butt of numerous jokes. The scrutiny is ridiculous and overwhelming. Why don't you focus on the issues?

Posted by: kenr21403 | June 10, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

The Post will take the communist side of any issue, even hair. So predictable!

Posted by: WilliamPenn | June 10, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why liberals are so completely obsessed with gender, race, sexual orientation, finances, etc. Where I see candidates, they see male/female candidates, black/white/brown candidates, straight/gay candidates, wealthy/poor candidates. I wouldn't even mind so much, but they seem to be the group that screams the loudest about how open-minded they are and how everyone else is a bigot. Go figure.

This Op-Ed is a prime example: the author admits right up front that she was never going to write about the issues or qualifications -- she was going to write about how they were women. And then, when she gets wind of something stupid said by one of the candidates, she immediately frames it as a sexist issue by describing it as "cattiness". Oddly, she remembers John Edwards' remark about Hillary's jacket, but not the obsession everyone had with John's hair. Apparently that didn't fit the narrative.

So, really, liberals -- please -- drop all the bigotry for once and actually talk about the issues. Yes, I know that all conservatives must be stupid -- because if they weren't, they'd obviously be liberals. We've gotten that talking point pretty firmly drilled into us. But if it has to be that versus your overt racism, sexism, and other -isms, I'll take it.

Now, in case you haven't noticed, California's teetering on bankruptcy. Perhaps you could actually investigate the causes. Perhaps excessive taxation and regulation of businesses would be a nice place to start. I hear you lost another automotive plant (Toyota) this year. Care to talk about why that happened and how to address it? Or is discussing the gender and race of the candidates just an easier and less painful job?

Posted by: AZBoy | June 10, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Liberals and the so called press have been making fun of conservatives in many ways over the years. Now when one of the presses favorite lackeys has to endure the hair comment, the press kicks in with the sudden indignant attitude. So, I guess like Obama's ears, now Boxer's hair is off limits! Doesn’t anybody remember how the press used to drone on about how Dumb GW was? Or the constant jokes about Dick Cheny?

Get over it, suck it up, and quit being so thinned skinned. Conservatives have been taking crap like that since...well since forever.

Posted by: KCZOMBIE | June 10, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

What if she would have said she has better hair, like Kerry- Edwards said ? Barbara looks like Shaun Penn.

Posted by: angeleyesken | June 10, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"focus on the issues?" Like how Republicans think the electorate is so dumb they can run a female executive on a private enterprise platform and hope they don't realize that her record in private enterprise was destroying tens of thousands of jobs, nearly destroying a company, and being so incompetent and displaying such bad judgment that a major corporation paid her 12 million to GO AWAY?

Posted by: JoeT1 | June 10, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Marcus, you are just another WaPo partisan hack who surely must have been foaming at the mouth when you heard Ms. Fiorina's . . . well, lame, stupid, juvenile, catty, unprofessional, etc., etc., remark. I agree that her remark was all of those things, and probably more. However, I find it interesting and sadly typical that you do not offer up any of Ms. Boxer's monumental gaffes which are dripping with condescension and racist overtones. By far, what has come out of Ms. Boxer's mouth is far worse than Ms. Fiorina's ridiculous remark, even with her defense of same.

I find it hilarious that your article is placed in a section (ironically) entitled "PostPartisan." Now that's funny! Also, you may want to take a look in the mirror the next time you ask "What is this, middle school?" The premise of your article, along with the blatantly joyful gotcha tone, is pure middle school, lady.

Posted by: Robin888 | June 10, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse


What's the matter marcus...slow news day or is this the first time you've been able to defend one of you lefty creep friends in a while. If Fee wants to make comments about box's hair, then how is that news? People don't want to read your rubbish about who said what about who's hair. News flash: box is a mutt, Fee is a mutt, and your a mutt. Report real news! Quit trying to manupulate the moronic middle voters with stupididty, they have enough trouble with voting as it is! I give you obama as an example. Find a night job, you stink at your day job.

WC

Posted by: wesm | June 10, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Normally I would say Carly was out of line...but Democrats are the one's responsible for getting us to this point. They are the mean-spirited one's that always up-the-ante when it come to personal attacks. Just look at what Sarah Palin and her family have endured. So Barbara...your hair does look stupid!

Posted by: littlebitlikethat | June 10, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

How quickly the column leftists forget. about John Kerry's hair. In fact, they forget John Kerry as a whole. Ditto Jon Edwards. They were... male.

To be credible, one should have some sembalance of memory.

Posted by: buzzstar | June 10, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Liberals on Panic Mode! so predictable are the attacks on candidates that represent a real threat to Liberals. Carly is now poised to win it all and the left is freaking out. LOVE IT!!! and Barbara Boxer? as Dumb as a liberal can be.

Posted by: colecturia | June 10, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

How quickly the column leftists forget about John Kerry's hair. In fact, they forget John Kerry as a whole. Ditto Jon Edwards. They were... male.

To be credible, one should have some sembalance of memory.

Posted by: buzzstar | June 10, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I know!!! How childish of the Republican candidate and so unprofessional. I mean why is hair even a topic with these right-wingers?

".....We've got real plans. We've got a better sense of what's happening to America, and we've got BETTER HAIR." -- John Kerry campaigning for the presidency in '04 with his running mate, Sen. John Edwards.

Posted by: hubris_az | June 10, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Barbara Boxer is a mess. I haven't forgot the time she belittled a military officer when she was questioning him in front of the Senate. He had called her Ma-me instead of Senator Boxer. She tried to make a fool of him. She is another nut from the land of "Fruits and Nuts."

Posted by: AlbertSchweitzer | June 10, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

It is really good to see so many post by people who are informed about the past history or should I say the past disaster of Carly Fiorina. I was going to remind people of how she wrecked HP but some of you have done a fine job of that. I hope people in California are as informed as many of you in these post,if so Barbara Boxer will win by a landslide as she should.

Posted by: LDTRPT25 | June 10, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Marcus has clearly written an excellent column. The rightwingnuts/tea tards/in-breds/droolers/trailer trash/Palinbots are frothing at the mouth.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | June 10, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

This is sooo not a story, and if anything just shows there are politicians who can act regularly. Besides, everyone knows Boxer is ugly as a dogs behind.

Posted by: crystal9154 | June 10, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I think your cattiness -- and partisan sentiment -- is showing..

it's so innocent!

Posted by: kkhebert | June 10, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Since Marcus is silent about the moonbat blogosphere's current obsession speculating about Gov. Palin's bustline, I assume she's okay with that.

Hypocrite.

Posted by: thebump | June 10, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

How hypocritical of a liberal slug like Marcus to criticize Carly for this. Does anyone forget how many thousands of gallons of ink the liberal press wasted trashing Palin's shoes and glasses? What goes around comes around, and the liberal press is about to see its precious little icons viciously trashed and thrown out of office.

Posted by: tbmiller421 | June 10, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I am not crazy over Carly Fiorina. I am even less crazy over Boxer. It is a shame those people don't have a legitmate choice to choose from. What can you expect from California?

Posted by: AlbertSchweitzer | June 10, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I heaed Blanch Lincoln almost traded her Oreobama health scare vote for a half bucket of extra crispy ! BTW, Barbara is an Alpo Queen !

Posted by: angeleyesken | June 10, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Carly (what a CUTE name!) failed out of law school after one semester! Plus.....

- During her time at HP, HP shares declined more than 50%.
- As HP CEO she shipped American jobs to India and China.
- She cut worker salaries by $130m while collecting $90m for herself.
- She collected a $42m golden parachute and $50k for career counseling.
- She is rated one of the 20 worst CEOs in history along w/ Ken Lay of Enron.
- Her leadership was "disastrous."

Plus she looks like a bad drag queen act of Bea Arthur.

Posted by: EdSantaFe | June 10, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

And Ms. Marcus just couldn't wait to tell us all about it. Seems as though no woman is beneath this stuff, myself included, and probably Ms. Boxer, as well.

A girly story like this would have been better relegated to my junior high granddaughter's facebook page.

And then forgotten - like we do with all of the MALE politicians' off-mike flaps.

Posted by: NDSue | June 10, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

This is sooo not a story, and if anything just shows there are politicians who can act regularly. Besides, everyone knows Boxer is ugly as a dogs behind.

Posted by: crystal9154 | June 10, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Ruth Marcus and Babs Boxer are about the same age and both have yesterdays hair look. Tattered Messes!
Since Joe Biden left the senate the DUMBEST SENATOR still voting is Barbara Boxer. Just remember thia "Madam" earned her title senator unlike the General who address this woman clearly was pushed through up the rank to General. What a blithering idiot Boxer is, but hey she represents California.
"Never knowing when to shut her trap Fiorina" was completely bald from chemo due to breast cancer.
Cat fights are not what the nation needs but good old fiscal ass kicking. Boxer has never run anything but her mouth, Fiorina has managed an 80 billion dollar company. Again what piece of legislation can BOXER POINT TO THAT HAS HELPED THE WORKING MAN AND WOMAN........

Posted by: pv1961mc | June 10, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Someone help me out, i cant tell wreather Marcus has 2, or 3 chins ! I know she has 2 faces !

Posted by: angeleyesken | June 10, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

It's OK to call someone you don't like a "nut" (in print for the world to see), but not OK to criticize someone's hair (in what was intended to be a private conversation). You hypocrite! It looks like the positive column you originally intended about women in politics was easily set aside to lambaste someone you obviously don't like. Thanks for showing your true colors, which I will keep in mind when reading anything you print from now going forward.

Posted by: jhalverson10 | June 10, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Ruthie, you make sure she apologizes. In the grand scheme of things, Ruthie, you could write a book about what Helen Thomas' remarks, and the fallout from them, really mean. I mean, we're talking Holocaust here. But you choose to distract from that, don't you Ruthie? Distract and focus on a remark someone made about hair. That's really rich, Ruthie. You'll probably get a Pulitzer for it.

Posted by: chatard | June 10, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Wow did I just waste my time reading this article!?! This was horrible writing...how does this get through an editor!?! Marcus, this has to be the most hypocritical, scatterbrained, and boring article I have ever read! Talking about middle schoolers...I think they could have done a better job writing on your topic...WOW

Posted by: FreeThinker8 | June 10, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

poor writer - a none story..
how about the line re: prior & future gov-
jerry brown -- Gov. Moonbeam...Now he is a total
joke!!!!!!!! writer just happen to want to mention him - so everyone knows where she stands.
Poor soul.

Posted by: migtex1234 | June 10, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

The objectivity of Ruth Marcus is as bad as Boxer's hair. Of all the things to write about. I wonder Ruth; Did you comment on Obama's kick a$$ moment? I'd like a open mic and camera on Ruth over the course of a day. This is and will be nothing. Boxer has been a utter disgrace as a senator. Fiorina may not be all that great, but she is certainly a better choice than Boxer, even if she did get the hair thing fixed.

Posted by: commonlogic | June 10, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

And then there's Boxer's face.

Oops...I forgot to say Senator Boxer...sorry mam.

Posted by: moovova | June 10, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Poor childless Carleton Snide.... I mean Sneed...... she's really a guy in drag. No wonder she is childless and tries to channel Bea Arthur (who must be turning over in her grave).....


Posted by: EdSantaFe | June 10, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Sorry all you progressive liberal types but Barbara Boxer sucks. Her arrogant attitude sucks. Her being out of touch with the people sucks. If you want 6 more years of deception, incompetence and arrogance, stick with Obama and his cronies.

Posted by: hardworking_vietnamvet | June 10, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Stop the presses! Carly Fiorina critized Barbara (just call me Senator) Boxer's hairdo. Too bad she didn't dig a little deeper and criticize the total vacuum between her ears.

Posted by: r_loveland | June 10, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Gee, so Jesse Jackson talking about cutting Obama's balls off .... was what, Marcus?

Or is black on black violence still sooooo today and totally acceptable?

Gimme a break! Boxer's hair IS awful. Not unlike Donald Trump's goofy comb over which is often joked about too. So what? I think we will all be thanking Carly after Bab's upcoming makeover. I look forward to her new look!

Posted by: Vivienne | June 10, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Marcus

You are a hypocrite!!!
Where were you when they were bashing Sarah Palin, including you. What a joke you are. You shouldn't be writing for that comic book.
By the way, your hair looks much better than your face!!

Posted by: parestey | June 10, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Where was school yard girl Ruthie Markus when Helen Thomas told the jews to go back to Poland (implying Poland under Nazi control)? Where was Ruthie when all kinds of horrible, despicable and vicious things were said about Palin? Where was Ruthie when Boxer disrespected a highly decorated general? Where was Ruthie when both Obama and Biden use language totally beneath the offices they hold? Need I go on?

Posted by: commonlogic | June 10, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Where was school yard girl Ruthie Markus when Helen Thomas told the jews to go back to Poland (implying Poland under Nazi control)? Where was Ruthie when all kinds of horrible, despicable and vicious things were said about Palin? Where was Ruthie when Boxer disrespected a highly decorated general? Where was Ruthie when both Obama and Biden use language totally beneath the offices they hold? Need I go on?

Posted by: commonlogic | June 10, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Overpaid CEOs trying to buy votes and now promising to find US jobs after cutting 18,000 HP workers and making off with a $40 million parachute? Now THAT'S reallly "so yesterday." Sorry, Carly, this vote's not for sale (and anyway, your buddy Meg paid $80 per vote so you're gonna have to up the ante to keep up with the Republican fat kitties out here!)

Posted by: Omyobama | June 10, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Good gosh, Boxer's a dog.

Posted by: boutros1 | June 10, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh, give it up and write a real story.

Where were all the women's groups when Sarah Palin was getting trashed at every turn? Where were you? Which side of the cafeteria were you sitting on then?

Posted by: catpur | June 10, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

What a pitiful column by Ruth Marcus. The Washington Post will continue to lose readership (and revenue) until it becomes balanced and objective. Until then, we know the rag and its stable of propagandists to be fully owned and operated by the Democratic Party and other liberal elites that know better than the rest of us.

Posted by: Starkermann | June 10, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me, are you actually SERIOUS??? You libs have been giving the entire Democratic party free passes to diss on Sarah Palin every chance you get--talking about her chest, her hair, her clothes, even her lips...so this woman makes one comment about an ugly liberal woman and you consider it news? I THINK NOT. If you can't take it, don't dish it out and quit the whining.

Posted by: Butterfly0821 | June 10, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

The hair's okay, it's the wrinkled leather look that scares me.

Posted by: gwert | June 10, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

In the clearing stands a Boxer and a fighter by her trade and she carries a reminder of every perm and beehive...

Posted by: obamamamajamma | June 10, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Boxer is a dog.
Barbara Boxer is not a dog.
Barbara Boxer is a dog's breakfast...

Posted by: Starkermann | June 10, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Carleton is a man.

Posted by: EdSantaFe | June 10, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Be serious! Male politician's physical attributes are talked about ALL the time by everyone. What about John Edward's glorious locks, or Blagojevich's football hair? John Kerry's chin? Ronald Reagan's blush makeup. Quit your silly handwringing Ruth Marcus! You sound like a 1960s feminist has been- you make no sense to us GenX women at all. Skewer the woman on a political issue; YOU sound trite and petty not Fiorina. She was making an offhand comment, you chose to write an article.

Posted by: jcnhcti | June 10, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's appearance including her hair style, eye glasses, shoes, body - well you name it - were discussed, criticized and ridiculed in great detail by Democrats and other Lefties during the campaign. It was, and is, shameful and embarassing. She didnt complain much, just accepted it as part of the job. Now Democrats are up on your high horses over some snarky but meaningless comment uttered off the record. The hypocracy is staggering, but typical.

Posted by: babs14 | June 10, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Wow, this is supposed to be some sort of controversy?

A Republican said something bad about a Democrat's hair? Really?

Are we to the point where your side has to cry "unfair" anytime anything negative is said about a candidate?

Get out the waaaambulance!

Posted by: ironchefofmunchies | June 10, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Let's talk about Boxer's comments when she KNEW the mike was on - like when she was speaking to Harry Alford, the chair of the National Black Chamber of Commerce last summer - and he reamed her for it.

It was equally as bad as (if not worse than) her snooty comment to Brigadier General Michael Walsh last June.

She's been in Washington long enough.

Posted by: NDSue | June 10, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Marcus is ridiculous. She complains about the cattiness but writes a whole article about someone who didn't know their microphone was on instead of the substance of the race. That was her choice, and it was very transparent that she chose this gutter scraping over the substance because Boxer is a nut and if their weren't so many morons in California we might get someone that actually has some experience in solving problems instead of just talking about them and getting richer every year as they bleed the country white.

Posted by: jimp64 | June 10, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Marcus is ridiculous. She complains about the cattiness but writes a whole article about someone who didn't know their microphone was on instead of the substance of the race. That was her choice, and it was very transparent that she chose this gutter scraping over the substance because Boxer is a nut and if their weren't so many morons in California we might get someone that actually has some experience in solving problems instead of just talking about them and getting richer every year as they bleed the country white.

Posted by: jimp64 | June 10, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Christ man, is this news? Women must be so damn catty if this is news. Boxer's hair? Hell, we should be commenting on Boxer's face which looks like a collapsed sculpture made of bread dough.

Posted by: gregrkytek | June 10, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh, please! Democrats and Washington Post play-acting writers, constantly smear Republican women, worse, don't respect any woman who is not a NOW Hag! After the drubbing Sarah Palin receives regularly from half-baked Democrat operatives, like WashPost play-acting writers, this is mild stuff. Watch out, girls, she's going to beat the PANTSUIT off that tired loser Boxer!

Posted by: panastos | June 10, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Carly is a old drag queen doing a bad act of Bea Arthur.... How can you be that rich and look that bad?

Posted by: EdSantaFe | June 10, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

The Post will take the communist side of any issue, even hair. So predictable!

Posted by: WilliamPenn

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Wow, the communists have a side of the "hair issue"? Com'on William, Communists are soooo 1970's. You must be at least as old as Barbara Boxer and dumber than a 5th Grader.

You won't pass the Republican purity test if you don't know St. Ronald Reagan defeated the communists single handidly. To be one of Limbaughs lemmings and Palin's "True Americans", you have to use "narcissistic" and "socialist" now in your mindless Huckabee parroting.

Posted by: areyousaying | June 10, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

So, we are supposed to care what comment Fiorina made about Boxer's hair? We have Marxists and communists running amok in the White House and government agencies. We have the FTC wanting to support newspapers, and the FCC wanting to destroy "certain" radio shows and cable news programs. We have an Obama administration determined to break the bank of the USA so that he can become the Hugo Chavez of America. These people are no different than the Soviets were or the North Koreans are....central control of all of us by force. So, I don't care what Carly's offhand opinion of Boxer's hair was, as long as California steps up and FIRES the stupid woman.

Posted by: betspotter | June 10, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Let's not forget that Barbara Boxer tried to discredit THOUSANDS of Americans when she said a few months ago that the TEA Party supporters were not genuine because they were "Too Well Dressed"

Look for yourself!

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/08/racial-senator-boxer-says-tea-party-protesters-too-well-dressed-to-be-authentic/

Any serious politician would just let the comment roll off of them. If this is the nastiest that Carly gets then I would vote for her because she didn't know she was being listened to in the first place.

She quotes someone else and it is a crime against humanity? If this is the worst this campaign gets then its going to be some sort of record for conduct on the campaign trail.

Get real people this isn't news.

Posted by: graciebarbosa | June 10, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Women have controlled both senate seats in California since 1992. That's 18 years. I think it's sexist that this columnist even feels the need to point out that they are women and congratulate them separately from the men.

The whole notion of a "women in politics" column is sexist.

It's not like she belittled a 4-star general on the floor of the Senate or anything. She made a catty comment about her hair.

So what.

Is it a revelation that women talk about this stuff off the record? It was heard through an open mic.

How about we judge candidates on their actual politics for once?

Once again, a journalist tries to create an issue that has nothing to do with the real problems in order to cloud the indefensible record of Barbara Boxer.

Californians have seen the decay of their once-great state over the past two decades under Boxer's leadership. She is an embarrassment. That is the real issue. Not catty comments that were never intended for public consumption.

This columnist is acting like she dropped an N Bomb.

Posted by: srkeegan | June 10, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

On the bright side, no mention was made of Boxer's face, or that she looks like she's been chasing too many parked cars. ; )

How about a discussion of the issues and not all this cat fight stuff? Grow up Ruth and focus on the issues and what Boxer has done to the country and to our state.

Posted by: jasonn13 | June 10, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

The comment was not intended to be made public, so there was no malice in it.And I
strongly agree with and commend the comments of commonlogic. My God, what passes for journalism these days!

Posted by: hoya72 | June 10, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone notice the picture of Marcus at the start of the article? She looks like a liberal! With all that anger she smiles like she's happy. How trivial can one person be?

Posted by: clarify | June 10, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

How terrible...gee, I wouldn't think of voting for someone who critizes someones hair! Get real Markus, what planet do you live on anyway?

Posted by: hoellviken | June 10, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Pleeeeze. No pass on a stupid hair comment??
Save the "no passes" for a topic of substance, like jobs, deficit, government bankruptcy, etc. This is lame, criticize on REAL stuff. Do some work and report on real issues, not phony, dumb stuff.

Posted by: jwgordon1234 | June 10, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

barbara boxer is going to lose her seat...so maybe she will have time to" get her hair fixed..."don't Call me mame.... haha I amazed that anyone would think this is an important issue....liberalism is a mental illness...this woman is a journalist ????

Posted by: andiron | June 10, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Quote:"Fiorina was a disaster at HP. And now? What a joke." Unquote.

Maybe a joke but way better than the total disaster that is Babara Boxer. RIP. Vote for the lesser of two evils.

Posted by: Grantchstr | June 10, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

So the sniping of the Left (once known as the 4th) Estate has begun.
The Washington Compost.... what happened to you? I remember when you helped bring down a Presidency.... Oh yeah... he was a Republican.

Posted by: nosuchluck | June 10, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

When Fiorina moved tens of thousands of jobs offshore she made the comment that “there is no job that is America’s God-given right anymore.” She called off-shoring "right-shoring. Just how is she going to represent average working Americans?

After driving HP into the ground she was a spokeswoman for the McCain campaign. Each time she appeared she wore jewelry worth years of the average working person's salary. Then she put down McCain and Palin stating neither could run a corporation - at which point she wasn't a spokeswoman anymore.

The hair comment is just another example of what a truly mean girl she is.

Posted by: MNUSA | June 10, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Please try some "grown up" stories. Oops I forgot, nothing but juvenile stories in this paper.

Posted by: doug_kinton | June 10, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

While I don't want to see conservative candidates stoop to the gutter level of liberals, I actually kind of like seeing a few jabs to people the caliber of Barbra Boxer.

Posted by: bassassin | June 10, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Just another idiot who thought she deserved making it to the top in business because of her business skills. First hand experience Forina is a me me me fraud who was given a couple of promotions because her men counterparts were excited about a skirt. At HP she hadn't a clew of what she was doing. It's obvious now as a politician wannabe she still hasn't learned much.

Posted by: steveb7 | June 10, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Ruth - you have taken a non-story and made it a story. You are perpetuating that which you allege to despise. Let those among you who have never said anything unkind about another person cast the first vote...

Posted by: jackyjack | June 10, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone commented about how AWFUL Carly's hair looks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DaManToday | June 10, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I offer that Ms. Fiorina cannot come anywhere near the extent of idiocy that her highness, Ms. Boxer, expressed while publicly "dressing down" a General Officer whose shoes she does not begin to deserve to shine.

Fern

Posted by: byandby | June 10, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh, pah-lease, they BOTH have "the little hairdo" that middle-aged women with no taste seem to consider obligatory. Those hairdos are laughable. It's as though they said to themselves one day "oh, I think I'll have my hair cut into a stiff little helmet. LOL. Ms. Fiorina should take a look in the mirror at herself.

Posted by: jayne0914 | June 10, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Boxer = What a Hag!

Posted by: ExoticTraveler | June 10, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Barbara Boxer has done nothing but hurt California in her 18 years in the Senate. She's gotten only 5 bills passed (3 naming courthouses, 1 named part of a river IN VIRGINIA, and 1 retrofitted some bridges for earthquakes). Worse is that she's caused the loss of 40,000 farmworker jobs in the San Juaquin Valley, over a stupid fish. Unemployment is over 36% there and getting worse. I don't care what her hair looks like -- I just want her gone!

Posted by: mojitomom | June 10, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

MArcus, take the high road and don't be pointing out teenage type things. Aren't there bigger fish to fry.

Posted by: Dinosaur1 | June 10, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Barbara Boxer's hairdo is a non-issue. If this is the best that Fiorina can do perhaps she needs to reconsider her candidacy. As I recall Ms. Fiorina was a vicious disaster at HP. Now she is presenting herself as a "business woman, who knows how to create jobs. " Guess that works as long as the job seeker has a good hair do.
Here's hoping that California voters have more sense than to vote for a woman who is so shallow.

Posted by: OhMy | June 10, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

We talk about John Edwards hair, Blagos hair and Donald Trumps hair. This is new? This is news?
I don't think so. Report something we can actually use to form a decision.

Posted by: RealAmericanRevolution | June 10, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Not this time Ruth. It ain't gonna work. In Fact, your catty column makes people more determined then ever to make sure Boxer has plenty of time to spend with her hairdresser after Jan/2011. she has been an unmitigated disaster for CA and the USA. The adults will be back in charge after Novemeber.

Posted by: stevec5 | June 10, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

I ONLY HOPE Carly Fiorina gives little Barbara Boxer her walking papers .... Boxer is ranked right there along with Pelosi and Reid in the most despised politician in America. CA voters PLEASE welcome Barbara Boxer back home ..... permanently.

Posted by: Sedona1 | June 10, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

"I was going to write a positive" BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH , "BUT then I saw a chance to rip a Republican a new one for something completely NON-Policy related, and how do you NOT jump all over that hair do?" Seriously same old crap from the same old writers. Helen Thomas could have written this article and it would have had more honesty at least. Send Fiorini back to Italy, Dumb wop, souldn't be alive anyway. Really, too bad DeVore did not win.
Why can not ALL the MARXISTS come out of hiding and stand with ROSY ODONNEL and what is that round table idiots name, mohr? THEY SCREAM, "SEIZE IT, THE GOVERNMENT, BP, I don't care just SEIZE IT" God help us all. The COmmie Bastards KILL 10-20% of teh Population one way or the other. Abortion does not count towards that goal for them, just so you know. You can not minimize Marxist Killing FIelds by increasing your ABORTION RATE. But good thinking Progressives.. That would have been your version of a kinder, gentler Marxism....
But Dangit Obama and his henchman are still going to need to kill 30 Million amERICANS for a good Marxist start.
Why should anyone have more than you? Let's jsut TAKE IT. IF they fight us we kill them" That is quoting half of Obama's Cabinet. The other half thinks, "Let's just kill them than take it." Oh well on our own soil. Give me Freedom or give me death.

Posted by: irishalaman | June 10, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey Marcus,

What a hipocrite..you are..liberals blast every aspect of Sara Palin..her looks..her husband and her children..Remember gap tootted..Letterman..saying Palin's daughter was as hooker?..and you twinkies are upset.. that Carly..took a swing..at Boxer???
Cry baby !..oh that's so unfair...not!

Zeke

Posted by: yopaulomurrayoto | June 10, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

who gives a ****?
If Joe Biden can say the f word and still be VP Ms Fiorino can comment on helmet head.
Nuff said.

Posted by: irishmom58 | June 10, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Hair? get the Botox out!! forget the hair. Boxer originally from Brooklyn, n.y. hard, coarse old broad....can't wait til she's gone.!

Posted by: mexicanseverywhere | June 10, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Ruthie, take a look in the mirror. Your hair could use some tending. But you and your sista Barbie....both so useless.

Posted by: PittAlum | June 10, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Boxer is a nutcase. Bad hair question aside, the sooner we get rid of her, the better.

Posted by: ttj1 | June 10, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse


Oh this article is too funny. Sahara Palin was hammered form her head to toe about, hair, wardrobe and eyewear
Like I said, head to toe. This is just too rich- What bunch of two faced left wing hypocrites at this crummy paper.

No wonder the major news media needs a bail out- HA HA HA!!!!

Posted by: Daniel37 | June 10, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

WHERE WERE ALL THESE HYPOCRITES for Clinton, DAVID LETTERMAN, Sandra Bernhard? This should be Marcus's newest favoriteset son.

STAND BY YOUR MAN>>>>>>>>
Even as he goes down on the Intern>>>
Stand By your MAN>>>>>
Even as he promotes and uses his work couch for the ones that PUT OUT>>>
Stand by your WOman>> even as they threaten PALIN with RAPE>>
liberal Progressives it just sucks to be you. Everyday you have to wake up and be a patheitc hypocrite. IT must be depressing as hell. And to know what you are fighting for is the complete end to our FREEDOMS and Wealth. TO work so that mankind must live in FEAR once again.. What a miserable existance..

Posted by: irishalaman | June 10, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

yeah,,,she gets a pass...you're a dope. something offends you and you are going to make a issue out of it? How about a president who has been less than transparent? how about a congress that is useless? how about a glib and shallow press secretary who is the voice of this "government"....some of you shills ought to awaken to government and not "party". The Repubs are a bunch of tired old men shaking their impotent fists at the young scallawags...the incumbents are a bunch of power drunk fratboys to paraphrase Camille Paglia. There needs to be a degree of independent thought. If you are incapable of that maybe you shouldn't vote.

Posted by: tomsamba2003 | June 10, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Marcus's simple-minded '80s feminism again!

When women stop spending a fortune and a huge amount of time on carefully managing their appearance and when they stop obsessing about their own and each others' clothes, makeup, and hair, THEN you can complain when people pay more attention to women's clothes, makeup, and hair.

Marcus's reverse-sexism '80s feminism says that women get to continue primping and obsession about their looks but no one else is allowed to notice it. That's called a MASSIVE DOUBLE STANDARD.

Posted by: uh_huhh | June 10, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Ruth Marcus probably doesn't actually mean to do it but she clearly has some old-school bra-burning issues and she comes across as a "sexist baiter"; she sounds sort of like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson do - except they are race baiters - and it makes it hard to take Marcus seriously. I actually do not like Fiorina as a candidate, but opinion writers (IMO) should have a little more respect for their readers and write about substantive issues... So I am writing a petty post to a petty article about a petty off the record comment. I mean hey, where does Fiorina stand on Iran getting nukes? What is Fiorina's position on stimulus spending? Does Fiorina have any particular agenda she is working on?

Posted by: jcnhcti | June 10, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Ruth Marcus is such a hypocrite!!! Where was this condescending criticism when Sarah Palin was savaged on every aspect of her life and looks?
I agree with Carly’s assessment of Boxer’s hair....it is a metaphor of her policies...dated, unflattering and a real mess.

Posted by: BigBake | June 10, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Gee, I seem to remember a couple of guy Democrat President and vice presidential candidates that thought hair was their ticket to control of the country. One ("the breck girl" Edwards) got multi Franklin ($100) haircuts. The Other (John F'ing Kerry) saying in an attempt to prove the qualifications of the Democrat ticket "...we have better hair than them."

Now Ms. Marcus, what are you trying to say?

Posted by: skoch1 | June 10, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I am a bit surprised you did not mention the President of the United States swearing like a middle school kid on national TV in the morning when kids and parents have the TV on.
You really want to make a point over a remark about someones hair? Which by the way I have heard men ask the question about BB, what is up with that hair? (it looks very weird some days.)
Nice lecture lady.

Posted by: sw1123 | June 10, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone noticed how much Boxer looks like Dustin Hoffman in "Tootsie"--It's uncanny.

Posted by: smithstar4 | June 10, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

That is not news.

This is news...

WHAT IS TAXED . COM

Posted by: truthfullyspeaking | June 10, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Marcus "doesn't get a pass" on yet more mainstream-media hack punditry that panders to noodle-brained zombified liberal thralls.

Same old stale recycled vapid double-standard-wielding lib agenda; even the "repackaging" is in tatters, it's been reused so many times.

Honestly. *This* is what she chooses to "focus" on? This opinion piece is so lame, so bereft of anything remotely resembling substance, I almost feel sorry for it.

By the way, does anybody know what Marcus's "take" was when every vile, godless, bile-slinging scumbag hack on the left was smearing and castigating Palin, slinging baseless rumors and innuendo and outright falsehoods? Was she decrying the all-time media low then? What about Obama's "lipstick on a pig" comment, that the windbag-in-chief used not-so-slyly following on the heels of Palin's grand-slam "pit bulls with lipstick" joke? Was Marcus there beseeching a "higher level of discourse"?

Please.

Posted by: finsher771 | June 10, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Whatever the comment, Barbara "Call me Senator" Boxer earned it. She is sub-human. I hope Fiorina beats her black and blue.

Posted by: RightStuff | June 10, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I cannot imagine that Boxer would find the subject of Fiorina's hair or anything else about her physical appearance important enough to cat about. And she probably doesn't even care that Carly thinks that her hair is "sooo yesterday." It was a harmless comment, but it tells us something about Carly Fiorina -- she is immature and catty -- someone who is more comfortable playing junior high school games than doing the hard job of being a senator.

Posted by: creatia52 | June 10, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

boxer needs to be replaced. she does nothing but worry about being called "senator". when she called down that army man she showed herself. a person serving in the service of our country rates far higher than an old broad sitting on her fat ass doing nothing collecting unearned money.

Posted by: twinspineve | June 10, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Ruth,
I will always remember Senator Boxer for the following interchange:

Sen. Barbara Boxer, California Democrat, gave an Army brigadier general an order this week during a committee hearing: Call me "senator."

Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh of the Army Corps of Engineers had addressed male senators on the Environment and Public Works Committee as "sir" during the Tuesday hearing. When the time came to speak with Mrs. Boxer, the panel's chairwoman, he called her "ma'am."

Mrs. Boxer quickly interrupted him.

"Do me a favor, can you say 'senator' instead of 'ma'am'?" Mrs. Boxer pointedly asked the general. "It's just a thing. I worked so hard to get that title, so I'd appreciate it. Thank you."

Senator Boxer has been a stockbroker, member and later president of the Marin County Board of Supervisors, congresswoman,and a senator.

By way of comparison,

Brigadier General Walsh assumed command of the Gulf Region Division, US Army Corps of Engineers, Baghdad, Iraq on 14 October 2006. His previous assignment was Commander of the South Atlantic Division, US Army Corps of Engineers (USACE). As SAD Commander from June 2004 to September 2006, Brigadier General Walsh oversaw engineering, construction, and real estate activities for the Army and Air Force in the Southeastern United States, Latin America, and the Caribbean. He was also responsible for water resources development activities which included management of major harbors, federal navigable waterways, and multiple-purpose reservoirs.
As USACE Chief of Staff from May 2003 to June 2004, he was responsible for directing, coordinating, supervising, integrating, and training more than 900 personnel to provide responsive engineering support to the Army and Nation at home and abroad. He worked closely with the Army, other MACOMs, Department of Defense staff, and members of Congress to ensure USACE provided exceptional support to the Army and Nation in peace and war.

Barbara's hair is probably her best feature. Everything else about her is pathetic.

Posted by: janreg1 | June 10, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

creatia52, grow up and wake up, take a whiff of the coffee that's brewing. Nobody's buying the silly contrived tongue-clucking from the effete hackneyed hypocrite libs.

Posted by: finsher771 | June 10, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Fiorina is not only a nut but also regression to middle school. And if hair really is an issue, she'll need to take that birds nest of her head, take her psych meds, and at least pretend to be somebody appropriate for public office.

Posted by: revbookburn | June 10, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Bush-Pro bailout Pro war
Obama - Pro bailout Pro war
Democrats - Pro bailout Pro war
Republicans - Pro bailout Pro war

Some of you folks are too stupid to put 2 and 2 together. It doesn't matter who wins. Our political ruling elite from BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE are selling our nation out. Vote Libertarian. Stop the NWO. Take back America. Educate your stupid selves before it's too late.

Posted by: jiji1 | June 10, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

lindalovejones -

linda, dear, if you no longer have the mental acuity to be embarrassed for yourself, I'll be embarrassed for you. Your comments make me think I'm reading the script for an episode of "Drug-addled Aging Hippie Chicks say the Darndest Things".

You and your raggedy army of hairy legged women and testosterone deficient men are the reason Kalifornia has become an economic cesspool.

Better learn a marketable trade, sweetie - the days of free needles and condoms are about to end - FINALLY!!!

Posted by: grapedanish | June 10, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

How can you distinguish such stupidity on the part of Fiorina and Marcus? Politicians behaving like middle schoolers?

Posted by: shangps | June 10, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

No wonder this country is mired in such trouble, when you have politicians acting like middle schoolers, journalists reporting it and mass media publishing it.

Posted by: shangps | June 10, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

@ GaryEMasters

"Anyone who thinks so is clearly not informed."

I agree.

Or hinged.

Posted by: neopatetic | June 10, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

That was Boxer? I thought it was Jerry Brown with a bad hair piece! Speaking of Ol'Brown...is that the best the California democrats can come up with for a gubernatorial candidate? No wonder a felon democrat was nominated in SC for the Senate, they are really scrapping the barrel here.

Posted by: scottpeck53 | June 10, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what our "clean, articulate, light-skinned with no negro dialect" president would have to say about this? He'd probably want to "kick her a$$".

Let's not throw stones, Libs. You've got PLENTY of mouth-shooters in your corner.

Posted by: QuineGeology | June 10, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Even the Clinton in-law has removed himself/herself from ties to the Boxers (on grounds of Mutual Reprehensibility?)

Posted by: Kmbold | June 10, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

To heck with her hair----------THAT FACE WOULD STOP A FREIGHT TRAIN!!!

Posted by: YankeeSoonerBill | June 10, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

@ alamo2

"Fiorina was a disaster at HP. And now? What a joke."

Fiorina saved HP in its passage through very tough times. Net HP employment during her tenure rose. People always want to concentrate on how many were fired, instead of noticing that the company simply could not have survived had it remained inefficient in economically perilous straits. Why do such people as alamo2 have no sympathy for all of the many, many more people than those who were let go, who would have lost their jobs if HP had gone under?

Posted by: neopatetic | June 10, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

I will translate for the benefit of my fellow Texans:

Is like she said High School Football is stupid.

There.

Now for Californians: It's just like that scene in Godfather II ... except in Texas your horse wakes up and rolls over.

Posted by: gannon_dick | June 10, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

I will translate for the benefit of my fellow Texans:

Is like she said High School Football is stupid.

There.

Now for Californians: It's just like that scene in Godfather II ... except in Texas your horse wakes up and rolls over.

Posted by: gannon_dick | June 10, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Barbara Boxer is an UGMO!

Posted by: whatyoutalkinboutman | June 10, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Agreed with shangps.

Hair? Who cares? A comment about hair? Again, who cares?

If she can cut 30,000 hp employees, maybe she can cut 5 million illegals.

Posted by: cleanfun | June 10, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Check out what this dog (literally) thinks about Carly and the California primary results. Commentary to give you paws...
http://atticusuncensored.wordpress.com/2010/06/10/winners-sinners-and-dinners/

Posted by: atticusuncensored | June 10, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Fiorina was actually being very restrained in her comment about Boxer. She could have said that Boxer needs a heavy-duty nose job.

Posted by: 2pigsfly | June 10, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

@ areyousaying

Nice to read your very best material.

Posted by: neopatetic | June 10, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

WaPo sniping journalism for ya!

Posted by: houston123 | June 10, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Hair, schmair . . . .

I bet there are plenty of reasons to vote against Fiorina (like her abysmal record at HP) without worrying about her snarkiness. Maybe her snarkiness is a tie-breaker, but then this would be an issue-less campaign (don't think it'll turn out that way).

In any event, since I live in WV, not CA, I don't get to vote. Besides, I'm an old man, so I could care about women's hair (too busy being glad about still having mine to worry about anyone else's). Like I said: hair schmair.

Posted by: post_reader_in_wv | June 10, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Did you complain when John Kerry said Americans should vote for his ticket because they had better hair than Bush/Cheney ? I agree with a previous poster, this could be your best material. Low bar that it is .

Posted by: borntoraisehogs | June 10, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

@ BBear1

"Gee, Carly certainly had her "macaca" moment early in the campaign."

Like so many on BBear1's side of the debate who have criticized Sarah Palin's appearance, or Ann Coulter's, or that of any person on this side of the debate, is that to what BBear1 is referring?

Or is it an extremely bizarre comparison between what many considered a racial slur, intentional or not, and having something to say about the relative contemporaneousness of someone's hairstyle?

Well?

Posted by: neopatetic | June 10, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. Carli's hair is a disaster as is Barbara Boxer's. They both look like trout in heat.

Aside from that, I would take Fiorini any day of the week, because she has experience in corporate america and was responsible for the turnaround at HP (no doubt the fan boys will call foul, but as an investor, I call em like I see em).

Barbara's claim to fame is she is a consistent and dedicated wack job. So it's time to get her out of the pool where mature people make intelligent decisions and return her to the Disneyland, where she might be qualified to take tickets on the baby rides.

Posted by: grcac | June 10, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

I live in California and I did not vote for Carly. But now that she has won, I will vote for her. Commenting on someone's hair is petty compared to Obumma wanting to kick someone's ass. Who has the least amount of class here Obumma or Carly? No comparison.

Posted by: jayesouthworth | June 10, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

@ GaryEMasters

"And who does Marcus think she is - the Unmpire?

No, she's miffed because she and Boxer share a hairstylist.

Posted by: neopatetic | June 10, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Give me a break. I wouldn't let this remark sway me from voting for Carly. Anyone and Anything is better than BOXER. VOTE HER OUT.

Posted by: mjno | June 10, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

OH PUH-LEEZ. Where were all you whiners when Sarah Palin's hair, legs, looks, glasses and everything else about her was (and still is) the target of condescending comments about Barbie Dolls?

Get over it.

Posted by: Darlene_Jr | June 10, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Talk about splitting hairs. This is the most important thing in the news? WAPO is desperate.

Posted by: sportsfan2 | June 10, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

@ EdSantaFe

"I couldn't care less what this hypocritical hag has to say.

So Ms. Fiorina is hypocritical for making what could be viewed as a catty criticism of Ms. Boxer, but not EdSantaFe for calling Ms. Fiorina a "hag"?

Oops.

Posted by: neopatetic | June 10, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Which is worse? Fiorina talking about hair styles or Marcus writing about it? No wonder men question women's ability to be serious politicians or columnists.

Posted by: sportsfan2 | June 10, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

i would like to know where ms. boxer has her hair "done" so that my dog's annual styling isn't performed by the same person. kudos to carly fiorina.

Posted by: oldinosaurgolf | June 10, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Follow the link below to see 40 seconds on Youtube, in which egomaniac Barbara Boxer insists that a Brigadier General call her "Senator," rather than 'Ma'am.'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVtQ7M0V15M

Posted by: dumbreddown | June 10, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Just don't forget to address barbie as senator - she's worked real hard to get that title remember. How pretentious can one be for Pete's sake.

Hey barbie, time to say bye bye.

Fiorina made a bold move with the Compaq acquisition and the last time I checked it seems to have worked out pretty good.

Bottom line, ANYTHING is better than the return of the box .....

Posted by: UncleBuckeye | June 10, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Forget Boxer's hair---Barbara is as dumb as the telephone pole on the street in front of my house. California you can do a lot better!

Posted by: carr1010 | June 10, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Barbara is as dumb as a tree!

Posted by: carr1010 | June 10, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

@ publius1

"The typology of female candidates may have changed but the behavior of politicians has not. Welcome to the trash talking female candidate."

Apparently publius1 has forgotten about the behavior of Senator McCaskill at the Goldman Sachs hearing in which she chose to imitate the trash talking Senator Levin.

(Nor is she the first.)

Posted by: neopatetic | June 10, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

What drivel is this? Snarky feminist pseudo-analysis posing as insight is all it seems to be to me. How about a few facts about Ms. Fiorina? For example, Portfolio magazine rated her as one of the 20 worst CEOs of all time, losing nearly a third of HP's market value during her tenure. I'm in the tech business and watched her closely as she mad a whole series of bad decision. I could care less about she says about Boxer's hair. It's irrelevant and trifling.

Posted by: glennd1 | June 10, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

crazy carly talks too much, she ran hp into financial ruin, then she discredited the nincompoops who hired her to help with their well organized campaign for president and vice president.
she'll be a perfect fit for california,after all they elected the terminator.

Posted by: ninnafaye | June 10, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

I could care less.

Posted by: moebius22 | June 10, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

LISTEN, DON'T CALL ME MAM! CALL ME SEANTOR. CAN'T YOU SEE THE HAIR MAKES ME LOOK LIKE ONE. REALLY, YOU PEOPLE.

Posted by: Oldsouthernguy | June 10, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

There is no insult to Boxer that can be made which is over the line. I am rubbing my fingers together and playing a sad tune on the smallest violin in the world on her behalf (credits to Reservoir Dogs).

As for Carly ruining HP, I think it turned out better than what has happend in the U.S. under the "leadership" of Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Harry Reid and, of course, Obama who would be insulted to be left off my list.

If California and the U.S. wishes to survive, or at least thrive again, it will require another 1980 and 1994 where the Dumbocrats get tossed out on the street.

Posted by: jdean10 | June 10, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Ya'll know I've just bout had enough of the search and destroy of Carly Fiorina here.

Just why do you think the subject of hair came up in the first place?

You folks think that no one in California talks bout what you folks in DC are saying with respect to Carly and her cancer?

Ms Marcus, care to comment on Sen Boxer's chats to her aides to the effect that "She's(Fiorina) hair today and gone tomorrow", or better yet, "health issues may decide this race?"

Hmmmmmmm........

Yep, Babs said it and everyone at the Post and on the Hill knows it.

Why don't you report that?

Madame Boxer's smug attitude is due to fact that she knows folks like you will protect her and do her dirty work, and no open mike set-up by the media will ever be allowed to soil her image, or what's left of it.

Sen Boxer has made no secret that she thinks Fiorina is unelectable because of her breast cancer, and I defy anyone of you to tell me that this avenue of attack will not find it's way onto the sleazy DC media train between now and election day.

Ms Marcus, I don't know your current health status, but if you're cancer free, you better hit your knees and thank the good Lord that you are.

As for Sen Boxer, well, we all know what sickness she suffers from.

Ms Marcus, cancer sorta makes a comment about hair seem like a petty issue to attack a candidate with now doesn't it?

If so, why are you Dems running with it?

Ya'll know the answer to that one don't ya?

Tell me I'm wrong here, with any of this?

Posted by: nopinko | June 10, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

But wait, I comment on male politician's hair all the time! Byron Dorgan's bizarre hat-like toupee, Joe Biden's chia-pet-like plug job, I love that laquered dinosaur fin that obscures Blago's gnomy little face, Newt's had some style issues and the pie-eyed, over-floofed and strangely comotose Boxer is certainly fair game on this subject as well as on many others. But agree with her or not Babs always was fairly feisty and there's something missing these days. She seems jaded or something. No energy. Too bad, I always liked a good girl-fight and this one has just begun. Babs will find her inner Stalin, I know it. This Senate campaign is going to outdo the bikini mud wrestling night at the Tropicana Club. I can just feel it! And cost a billion dollars.

Posted by: skep41 | June 10, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

@ goldengateview

"Did you expect more mature behavior from Carly? For god's sake, she was endorsed by $ARAH PALIN.

What's your point, goldengateview? President Obama was endorsed by Jeremiah Wright, Ahmed Yousef (chief political adviser to Hamas), Louis Farrakhan and white supremacist David Duke. I doubt you find yourself closely aligned with all of those people. Just because a candidate is endorsed by someone, that doesn't mean they agree with the endorser on any specific thing unless that has been made clear independent of the endorsement.

"Carly is just the latest MEAN GIRL candidate to appear on the scene, whose development was arrest sometime during her middle school years."

We can now see how very much goldengateview abhors MEAN GIRL pejorative name-calling and ad hominem attack.

But honestly: as a cancer survivor who's had her own issues with "bad hair" (or even NO HAIR), you'd think that Carly wouldn't have gone there."

Oh, yes. let us condemn Carly Fiorina for a single errant criticism of her general election opponent's appearance on the night of her hard-fought primary victory. Let us make a big effin' deal out of it. In fact, let's kick her heinie all over the place. None of us has ever done such a thing, surely.

"The fact that she did speaks volumes about her complete lack of class and extremely poor character."

I would be more inclined to believe goldengateview thinks Ms. Fiorina's single questionabe remark "... speaks volumes about her complete lack of class and extremely poor character," if Senators Levin and McCaskill had been even more harshly criticized by goldengateview for their foul-mouthed behavior in the Goldman Sachs hearing. Cite? URL? Or how about some even harsher words from goldengateview for the foul-mouthed verbiage to which I referred on the part of Vice President Biden or President Obama?

"My cleaning lady would be a better candidate than Carly! She's never been fired."

Has she bounced as many checks as Senator Boxer did on the House Bank? Probably not. There are plenty of felons behind bars who bounced fewer checks and for less money than she did. Personally, I'd far rather have your cleaning lady be the next Senator from California than that prolific paper hanger, Barbara Boxer.

"Boxer was among the top 24 involved in the House bank scandal. On March 1, 1992 the Sacramento Bee quoted Boxer as admitting she didn't pay enough attention to her House bank account. More specifically, that meant 143 bad checks totaling $41,417 over a three-year period that she had written on the House bank."

http://www.opencongress.org/wiki/Barbara_Boxer#Record_and_controversies

Posted by: neopatetic | June 10, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse


So people who didn't like Fiorina before she made this comment now still don't like her.

There's a surprise.

Posted by: WylieD | June 10, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Grease these women up and turn them loose on each other. The last one with their bra still on wins!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: dougonesko | June 10, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

oh good grief - the thought police of the left are laying it on thick. they can't find anyone to bash so they use personal comments. so what - she said something about someone's hair off the mic - at least it was honest. i would have bashed that hideous eye liner boxer has on in the picture in private as well. yuck. but it wasn't part of her speech so get over yourself--we're not in high school anymore. pick a REAL topic.

Posted by: NewLibertarian | June 10, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

If this is all the criticism you can come up with regarding Carly Fiorina, she must be as good a candidate as I think she is. Your behavior mimics what the lefties did when Sarah burst on the scene. They responded with sheer terror and criticized every word that came out of her mouth. They were right to be frightened of her. Sarah's quite formidable. And so is Carly! But, my dear, need to get a life!

Posted by: Norma1 | June 10, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

If this is all the criticism you can come up with regarding Carly Fiorina, she must be as good a candidate as I think she is. Your behavior mimics what the lefties did when Sarah burst on the scene. They responded with sheer terror and criticized every word that came out of her mouth. They were right to be frightened of her. Sarah's quite formidable. And so is Carly! But, my dear, you need to get a life!

Posted by: Norma1 | June 10, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Ohoho.
Is it a secret that Boxie is as ugly as a hag?
Of course, not.
And she has a mouth as foul as a jackal.
Everyone knoes that.
So, why has the dirty left become so holy when it comes to telling the truth of how ugly and low thy are?
Because they fear their end is imminent.

Posted by: objectivist | June 10, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Ohoho.
Is it a secret that Boxie is as ugly as a hag?
Of course, not.
And she has a mouth as foul as a jackal.
Everyone knoes that.
So, why has the dirty left become so holy when it comes to telling the truth of how ugly and low thy are?
Because they fear their end is imminent.

Posted by: objectivist | June 10, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

fiorina destroyed Compaq and worked very hard at destroying HP. Now the idiots in California want to have her further show how incompetent she is. Just what we need, a female version of "W".

Posted by: ksobserver1 | June 10, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Ruth, you are priceless. Bent out of shape because Fiorina commented on Boxer's hair, yet your comment about Sharron Angle is so non-mean-girl? I can't remember similar outrage from any of you libs at any comment ever made about Sarah Palin's looks.

Posted by: roboko1 | June 10, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Biased Marcus?

What jealous little girls will complain about.

Come on, THAT HAIR IS GROSS!!!!!.

Boxer is a female dog and shows contempt for the country and the voters.

Posted by: Spares99 | June 10, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

To borrow a quote from the blank panthers in Philadelphia, "you are gonna know what it is like to be ruled by a white conservative woman."

Posted by: trus1 | June 10, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

To borrow a quote from the blank panthers in Philadelphia, "you are gonna know what it is like to be ruled by a white conservative woman."

Posted by: trus1 | June 10, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Boxie is rich white trash.
It is an open secret.
She's fair game, so, what is the fuss about?

Posted by: objectivist | June 10, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

I agree on the Fiorina "quip." Btw., Carly, dear, what's with that extra chin? Sooooo.....?

Posted by: farnaz_mansouri2 | June 10, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Certainly not the first time a candidate has made an unflattering--and petty--remark about an opponent. Shall we move along now to the issues and where they stand on them?

Posted by: SavingGrace | June 10, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

The funny -- nay, hysterical -- part of Fiorina's comment is that she's at a victory rally standing next to Whitman whose hairdo is so bad it makes her look like an aging drag queen.

Posted by: markiejoe | June 10, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Now we know why Palin endorsed Fiorina....middle-school catty mean girls love company. Seriously, I was amazed that with her history Fiorina could win the primary in California. They had a better candidate but he didn't have her money. You have to wonder about the voters! Actually, given her history, this is something you would expect from Fiorina....she has a reputation for being ruthless, and incompetent. This was beneath the dignity of any candidate.

Posted by: sharronkm | June 10, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

First of all, typical female chit-chat, especially among rivals. So don't get your panties in a wad!

As for Carly, quit lying about her.

Barbara Boxer has voted for more than a trillion (dollars) in tax increases, supported policies that have expanded government and at the same time stifled real job creation throughout her 34 years as politician. Boxer's vote for Obama's stimulus package didn't prevent California from losing hundreds of thousands of jobs.

Compare that to Carly's record at HP where she steered it through the dotcom bust and the worst technology recession in 25 years. During her tenure, HP's revenues doubled, from $44 billion to $88 billion, with improved profitability in every product category. Today, HP is the largest technology company in the world.


Posted by: Callie369 | June 10, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Don't waste your time trying to write about significant election results. Stick to the junior high tripe that so suits your analytical talents and much of your readership's comprehension level. Fish wrap is fish wrap.

Posted by: NCMike | June 10, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Marcus....get a life. Problem with Liberals is this is what they focus on....Hair comments. Who cares. Waste of space. I'd say try to worry about the issues, but from a leftist/marxist/socialist/fascist/"progressive," we get your point of view every day on the network news.

Posted by: rewerdrwcom

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Too funny and more than a little hypocritical!

It seems Ms. Fiorina didn't focus on the issues. She's the one focused on another woman's hair. Only when Ms. Fiorina's catty childishness is reported do you get all wee-wee'd up.

I'll take that socialist/progressive/liberal/ whatever word you want to puke agenda any day...especially over a woman whose big issue in life is obsession with another woman's hair.

Posted by: arancia12 | June 10, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

This is a complete joke! What is Boxer going to do when the real hard comments start such as "incompetent", "democratic lemming":, perhaps something worse--Are people like you so naive that you think anybody is going to let Boxer use her normal bad behavior during the campaign? It is truly amazing that you, Ruth Marcus, and others like you set yourselves up as "authorities" and "experts", when in fact you have nothing to say because you have no real credentials!

Posted by: bradford2 | June 10, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Having just spent a school year working part time with teenagers (mostly freshmen and sophomores), I'd say most of them were more mature than Carly. Once in awhile we saw juvenile behavior, but these college prep teenagers were usually more mature than that.

Posted by: GHDEL | June 10, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

This is a complete joke! What is Boxer going to do when the real hard comments start such as "incompetent", "democratic lemming":, perhaps something worse--Are people like you so naive that you think anybody is going to let Boxer use her normal bad behavior during the campaign? It is truly amazing that you, Ruth Marcus, and others like you set yourselves up as "authorities" and "experts", when in fact you have nothing to say because you have no real credentials!

Posted by: bradford2 | June 10, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Anne Richards used to joke about Babs' hair and it was okay - no different than guys talking about who wears a rug. Frankly, I would focus on Babs not wanting to be called ma'am by a 5 star general. I found that highly inappropriate coming from Babs. Or perhaps focus on Babs' do nothing agenda for many years.

Fiorina wasn't my first choice but I am now in her camp. She was good at HP and turned around a disaster. She gets criticized because the good old boys didn't like a WOMAN at the helm. Besides, she's good enough, smart enough and gosh darn, CA voters love her.

Posted by: BikeChick1 | June 11, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Those wrinkles... That hair.. Those votes that are destroying our economy. I could go on.
Good Bye Ms Boxer.

Posted by: yokohlman | June 11, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

gee, I admire your willingness to confront the tough, complicated issues.

Posted by: daphne5 | June 11, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Oh boy, Carly won! It's going to be so much fun watching her and her little old golden parachute go down in flames. I hope she spends a bundle, and gets so hooked she wants to try again in 2012.

Posted by: fzdybel | June 11, 2010 12:27 AM | Report abuse

This is a complete joke! What is Boxer going to do when the real hard comments start such as "incompetent", "democratic lemming":, perhaps something worse--Are people like you so naive that you think anybody is going to let Boxer use her normal bad behavior during the campaign? It is truly amazing that you, Ruth Marcus, and others like you set yourselves up as "authorities" and "experts", when in fact you have nothing to say because you have no real credentials!

Posted by: bradford2

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Dearest Brad, Mrs. Boxer has been in politics a long time. And please...do you see a post from her here?

No. Mrs. Boxer has not said a word. You seem to confuse the posters here who are critiquing Ms. Fiorina with Mrs. Boxer. Hope you read more thoroughly before you vote.

I guess your right that Ruth Marcus isn't an authority or expert...unlike you, eh?

Posted by: arancia12 | June 11, 2010 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Fiorina has spent too much time talking about hair, her own and now other's, when there are serious issues that need to be addressed. Whitman has spent her time trying not to talk about anything at all. California has serious problems and it will not be enough to say the other person is worse. What are their programs and how will they bring the economy of the state back?

Posted by: ThomasFiore | June 11, 2010 12:28 AM | Report abuse

The Post is showing its well-known partisan bias and Ms. Marcus toeing the party line as well as likely displaying her own ethnic predelection for Ms Boxer.

Carly is decidedly less than conservative, but ANYONE is preferable to Boxer the neo-Marxist and almost literally lunatic feminist. I don't care for Boxie's colleague's politics nor her and her husband's business ethics, but at least she's sane and recognizably an American.

Posted by: searic | June 11, 2010 12:31 AM | Report abuse

OH puhleeze, stop with the faux outrage.
What a stupid waste of column inches.

Posted by: cjkillingsworth | June 11, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

OH puhleeze, stop with the faux outrage.
What a stupid waste of column inches.

Posted by: cjkillingsworth | June 11, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

"She was good at HP and turned around a disaster. "

Actually, she was bad at HP, and the board of directors fired her. Even before her scandal (you do remember the scandal, which revealed her for a power-mad egomaniac?) the board was working to shift her responsibilities to her department heads. They had put her on the "performance improvement plan," the board was *not* happy with HP's performance. The decision to spin-off Agilent pre-dated her. Her big contribution was the merger with Compaq. Playing the CEO game for what it was worth in those days, she tried to flip HP onto the merger market and make a quick killing, but the HP stockholders weren't having any.

As a CEO she was 'way out of her league. As a Senator, she would take care of the people of California about as well as she took care of the employees, board, and stockholders of HP.
Not that it will come to that: she's going to go down in flames come November. She won't be able to distance herself from positions she took during the primary.

Posted by: fzdybel | June 11, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

C'mon CBS havent you better things to do than sandbag a political novice ? was joe biden busy ? hes always good for a gaff or two ..Boxer has made enuf gaff's in her career to fill a program and she did it without being sandbagged knowing full well the mic was hot ...Lets talk issues with Boxer last time she ran for the senate she didnt even give her opponent a debate ..maybe this time she will ...and before you appear on TV please comb your hair !!......

Posted by: Skyehawk | June 11, 2010 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Fiorina is a disaster and the state of California deserves a senator with a little class. What we absolutely don't need is a dried up less attractive version of Sarah Palin who is just as nasty.

Posted by: Brigadere | June 11, 2010 1:03 AM | Report abuse

All we nee now is for Barack Hussein Obama to show up, thus closing the deal for Fiorina. YES HE CAN!!

Posted by: trippermeow | June 11, 2010 1:10 AM | Report abuse

@ amylj

"Barbara Boxer is more beatiful inside and out! Barbara Boxer is in touch with the average american on all issues."

Let's test that out. Barbara Boxer is in favor of sanctuary cities. She is completely against the Arizona law recently passed to help curb illegal immigration. She essentially favors lax border enforcement, if any. In direct contrast, the average citizen of this country, by large margins in each case, opposes each of those, according to many polls.

Or, take the health bill. Senator Boxer strongly supports that. Depending on the poll, the average citizen of this country is either against it by a plurality or an outright majority.

One could go on and on, but the assertion by amylj that, "Barbara Boxer is in touch with the average american on all issues." is proven categorically false.

"Fiorina should keep her mouth shut."

Ah, what we have here must be more of that All-American support for the First Amendment we hear so much about from the Left. No one should be surprised if amylj turns out to be a card-carrying member of the ACLU, should they?

"When looking at Fiorina's hair and appearance, she is in no position to critize others."

Clearly, looking at Ms. Fiorina's hair and appearance, amylj is in the idea position to criticize her, however. What evidence do we need beyond her own words?

"The arrogance and pettiness just makes her even less attrative as a person and a candidate."

I'm just so certain, too, that amylj would have voted for Ms. Fiorina if not for this one thing. Isn't everybody? Isn't it perfectly obvious?
/sarcasm

"Get over yourself!"

Good advice.

Posted by: neopatetic | June 11, 2010 1:10 AM | Report abuse

And Barbara Boxer can rant about anyone she chooses and Ruth Marcus ignores it.

Posted by: mike85 | June 11, 2010 1:17 AM | Report abuse

In April 2009, the business magazine web site Condé Nast Portfolio listed Fiorina as one of "The 20 Worst American CEOs of All Time", characterizing the HP-Compaq merger as a widely regarded failure, and citing the halving of HP's stock value under Fiorina's tenure.

That's a 50% slide over five years. Did somebody say something about a "turn-around at HP?" That came only after a lot of cleaning up, long after Carly's expensive departure. She got the $20 Million Golden Boot.

She did seem to eat up being the celebrity CEO: most powerful woman in Silicon Valley, yadda yadda. She came up from Sales; her main skill set is self-promotion.

Posted by: fzdybel | June 11, 2010 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Go to Hell, Ruth Marcus!
Tal Dayan, Ramat Gan, Israel

Posted by: LiorK | June 11, 2010 1:32 AM | Report abuse

@ goldengateview

"To 'jtinniv' from 3:57 pm:

There's a difference here: Sharon Angle IS a nut.

Thanks for playing."

Here's another difference: Boxer, Reid and the others of their ilk are incontestably worse.

Thanks for trying to play.

Posted by: neopatetic | June 11, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

"The nation's largest state could easily have a woman in the governor's chair "
WRONG. Ruth, Whitman is against Latinos, Gays and Lesbians and Unions ... she can't win in California .. no matter how much she's willing to pay!

Posted by: paris1969 | June 11, 2010 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Ruthy, I get the idea about women making progress in a man's world (but really, who does hold the vagina/power in the men's world?)anyway, shouldn't politics be about COMPETENCE and HONESTY - irregardless of sexuality, race. etc.?

Posted by: db11232 | June 11, 2010 1:58 AM | Report abuse

Ruth, for the sake of the truth, I saw Barbara Boxer in a very rare TV appearance about a month ago on the KTTV Ch. 11 news in Los Angeles, a very friendly place to her. Sen. Boxer's big campaign tagline in this interview was her hair. They showed a few pictures of her with completely different colors and styles. The Senator joked that she had a longtime political friend who always commented that her hair changed color and style every time he saw her, and she (ha ha ha ha!!! she laughed) told him "she knew!" But the political punchline was, that he then said, "Barbara, your hair always changes and I never know what it will look like, but your politics are always the same." Hee! Hee! (she laughed then too). And that was it. That was the sum total and substance of the whole 5 minute appearance. That was her main campaign selling point, and she even said so. She said when the primaries were over, she planned to use that story to tell voters exactly what she was like.

I was at Carly's victory party and I am a lifelong, pretty successful (top 5% earner) professional female with three different and diverse successful careers (nonprofit executive, professional writer, and college teacher).

So, you may of course freely raise these issues with those who might be swayed by them. I respect Carly Fiorina in every way and can see she is highly-educated, highly-successful, and highly-insightful leader. I see this in her own person and in-person approach, and in her achievements, which outshadow Barbara Boxer's in all ways except this "election thing." Until a couple of days ago, the top selling point on Barbara's campaign website was the high victory margins she's had running against weak candidates. Yesterday, it was a very minor, ineffective 2004 law to give tax breaks to feebly try to keep film companies in California. She says she's "working to bring green energy jobs to California." Well, she's had 17 years to do that. I think she had a lot of time and opportunity and has done nothing but change her hair color.

Posted by: ASterling1 | June 11, 2010 2:02 AM | Report abuse

Ruth, if that's the best you've got, you need to find another line of work. Perhaps you could write an etiquette column and call it "Marcus Manners" or "Ruth's Rules."

Posted by: jsutton1240 | June 11, 2010 2:17 AM | Report abuse

Also, I know for a stone cold fact that "liberals" contribute very little to charity. Former Vice President Al Gore is unbelievably penurious, and - though he is registered in the Republican party, Carly's primary opponent Tom Campbell, the man who liberals promote to me as the man I ought to vote for, and someone "acceptable" to them, gave a whopping $600 to charity in 2008, off an over $1 million income.

Many corporations are in the 1%, 2% and 3% club - they commit to giving this much profit a year to charitable causes. Many individuals are in the 10% club, and those who attend church know this as tithing.

Carly Fiorina gave $481,384 to charity in 2008 - with an income of approx. $2.5 million.

There are many things that "liberal" mouthpieces either do not understand, or disrespect. One is genuine charitable contributions, legacies and bequests, genuine altruistic volunteer efforts that are done without concern for "awards" and recognition, and the final one is the difference between mandatory tax withholdings, and the many other forms of tax, such as near-10 cents on the dollar sales tax, property tax, and estate and capital gains taxes that automatically remove cash to others who spend it as they will - and not necessarily to accomplish ANY result except to spend it. Like, oh, say, meeting with experts to find out whose ass to kick. This type of thing.

Posted by: ASterling1 | June 11, 2010 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Wow, Ms. Marcus, your a hypocrite of the highest order. You want to call Sharon a nut then we need to call out bad hair including yours. Your hypocritical editorializing is sooo...yesterday if you ask me.

Posted by: jaydawg1 | June 11, 2010 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Huh???? Journalist (?) Marcus doesn't get a pass for trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill with some two-bit catty remark. At least she's transparent in her subjectivity and integrity or lack thereof.

Posted by: Calabrese99 | June 10, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

*****
Please get an education. Marcus is a journalist and as such she is reporting something that is the truth. You may not like to hear the truth, but there it is. Moreover, you should find it an insult to your intelligence to defend a female who is running for an important office, to act like a junior high school silly girl. If this is what Fiorino's character is like, God help her chances of getting elected. Senator Boxer is one of the hardest working woman in Congress, regardless of her party, and the last thing a candidate hoping to take over her Senate seat should do is poke fun at her hairdo. Apparently Fiorino's cancer didn't change her attitude toward kindness and honor and dignity. If all she has going for her are her 21 million dollars of her personal money to get the nomination, and her unkind and catty words, she is a loser. Marcus did display objectivity, she let us know just what kind of fool Fiorino is and Marcus's integrity is just find. Perhaps you don't know what integrity is, and so you throw out something to demean the messenger. Grow up child. fritz

Posted by: papafritz571 | June 11, 2010 2:25 AM | Report abuse

Who cares about the hair.......lets look at the record..and the millions Boxer and her husband made over the housing deals..Lets look at the ladies heart, the evil communist heart that wants to destroy Calif and America...Look at all she has done and ask yourself can you stand another day with this evil democrate in office.

Posted by: welovetheUSA | June 11, 2010 2:48 AM | Report abuse

Yes, but she is right about the hair.

Besides California is a Two part consent state so I suspect a crime was commited.

California Wiretapping Law

California's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. California makes it a crime to record or eavesdrop on any confidential communication, including a private conversation or telephone call, without the consent of all parties to the conversation. See Cal. Penal Code § 632.

If you are operating in California, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any conversation that common sense tells you might be "private" or "confidential." In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the California wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party. See Cal. Penal Code § 637.2.

Posted by: palin | June 11, 2010 2:57 AM | Report abuse

Forget the hair. Senator Boxer herself, sorry I meant "Ma'am" is sooo yesterday. Like from the 60's Groovy, man.
As Michael Savage used to say if it wasn't for her government job the best Boxer could hope for was to be a brassiere saleswoman in Queens.

Posted by: ExPatYankee | June 11, 2010 3:10 AM | Report abuse

Wow a republican won't be given a pass on something! Shocking!

I've got news for you I am a guy who works in a female dominated industry. (nursing) The amount of gossip, backstabbing and bull-crap is unparalleled.

No surprise here. If Boxer (OH I'm sorry, Senator Boxer), had made the comment about Carly this article would be about something different.

By the way men in high level positions have comments made about their appearance all the time including politicians. I've heard plenty of comments about Biden's hairplugs, Oh and what about Trump.

The difference is that men don't give a crap and certainly don't spend any time discussing it.

Posted by: 4101 | June 11, 2010 3:17 AM | Report abuse

I see this in her own person and in-person approach, and in her achievements, which outshadow Barbara Boxer's in all ways.

Yes, Babs never did manage to run a Fortune One Hundred corporation so completely into the ground that the employees, board of directors, and the stockholders all wanted to see her head roll. Also I don't think Babs ever manage to wangle a $20 Million severance package for wrecking said ruin. Yes, Carly's achievements are formidable!

Posted by: fzdybel | June 11, 2010 3:26 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Marcus, you must be desperate for something to criticize. Cut me a break. Liberal bloggers in their usual visciousness speculate about Sarah Palin's cleavage but that's perfectly okay with you? This is just an attempt at another liberal hit piece but it is so lame that it is just laughable. You are not a feminist you are a shill for the Democratic Party who masquerades as a columnist.

Posted by: susansalisbury1 | June 11, 2010 3:31 AM | Report abuse

Please get an education. papafritz571. You might want to take your own advice. Barbara Boxer is the hardest working woman in congress. Your proof of that sir or is that just your OPINION stated as fact.

Barbara Boxer was caught in the middle of racist diatribe where she basically argued with a black man telling him that he should agree with something because other blacks support it. Yup thats what she said. The man called her on the carpet immediately and told her that her comments were completely racist and inappropriate. It’s as if you can’t be authentically black or Hispanic unless you also buy in to liberal dogma. Yes Papa this is a verifiable FACT that can be viewed on you tube.

Then we won't even get into her condescending and demeaning manner in which she spoke to one of our military commanders during congressional hearings. She worked hard to earn her title. Well I guarantee he worked harder and was entitled to the same respect which he did not receive.

I'm not saying that Carly's comments were appropriate but I guarantee Boxer has been catty as well from time to time. Just because she didn't get caught on an open mic makes no difference.

Making an issue out of this is as childish and immature as the comments. Unless you really believe that the fact that someone doesn't like someones hair and comments on it is a reflection on their ability to hold a leadership position. If that is the case you probably shouldn't be voting at all.

Posted by: 4101 | June 11, 2010 3:45 AM | Report abuse

The comment simply plays reinforces the opinion of some that she is not serious-minded enough for the job.

Posted by: mingkeeper | June 11, 2010 4:00 AM | Report abuse

I think the fact that someone like Carly Fiorina made it to the top of Hewlett-Packard speaks more of HP than it does of Ms. Fiorina.

I can imagine her being paired up in high school by her excited prom parents with someone like...say, Tony Hayward! Soooo cooool, the two of them together.

And all they want back is their life!

Posted by: sthomas1957 | June 11, 2010 4:09 AM | Report abuse

Oh puh-leeze! Barbara Boxer REALLY does have bad hair. Libretards love to name-call, but when they are the butt of the joke, they cry like babies. Get a life and start worrying about the things politicians like Barbara Boxer are doing to our country and our children's future. Buck up and be responsible adults!!!

Posted by: jjtex | June 11, 2010 4:36 AM | Report abuse

Gee, where is Ms. Marcus when her libtard friends are all piling on Sarah Palin for such 'catty' things?

I didn't see her standing up against any of those intentional attacks by such incompetents as Robert Gibbs at the White House no less....

Yet MORE hypocrisy from the left... No wonder why no one pays attention to them anymore...

Posted by: 1hughjass | June 11, 2010 5:39 AM | Report abuse

Also, I know for a stone cold fact that "liberals" contribute very little to charity. Former Vice President Al Gore is unbelievably penurious, and - though he is registered in the Republican party, Carly's primary opponent Tom Campbell, the man who liberals promote to me as the man I ought to vote for, and someone "acceptable" to them, gave a whopping $600 to charity in 2008, off an over $1 million income.

Many corporations are in the 1%, 2% and 3% club - they commit to giving this much profit a year to charitable causes. Many individuals are in the 10% club, and those who attend church know this as tithing.

Carly Fiorina gave $481,384 to charity in 2008 - with an income of approx. $2.5 million.

There are many things that "liberal" mouthpieces either do not understand, or disrespect. One is genuine charitable contributions, legacies and bequests, genuine altruistic volunteer efforts that are done without concern for "awards" and recognition, and the final one is the difference between mandatory tax withholdings, and the many other forms of tax, such as near-10 cents on the dollar sales tax, property tax, and estate and capital gains taxes that automatically remove cash to others who spend it as they will - and not necessarily to accomplish ANY result except to spend it. Like, oh, say, meeting with experts to find out whose ass to kick. This type of thing.

Posted by: ASterling1 | June 11, 2010 2:18 AM
--------------------------------------------YOU keep posting this here and elsewhere, however what don't understand is that the average Liberals has a lot less $ than the average Republican. What you also don't post is that LIBERALS Bill and Melinda Gates, Warren Buffet, Oprah Winfrey and David Geffen, Michael Bloomberg and Steven Speilberg give more to charity a year than all Republicans combined. Therefore you are LYING!

Posted by: joemcnamara1 | June 11, 2010 5:43 AM | Report abuse

Wow....The Post still has this 'non-issue' article featured online? They must be desperate to highlight anything that they feel will help a liberal politician stay in office.

Eagerly awaiting the Nov elections to help the Tea Party throw out the progressives so that America can have a chance at survival.

Posted by: honorswar26 | June 11, 2010 5:44 AM | Report abuse

When are you going to do something with YOUR hair? It's HORRIBLE. I didn't even finish reading the article. A dame like you ought to do a better job with your fashion. SHAMEFUL!

Posted by: cacacoo | June 11, 2010 5:57 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, luv, but dress and grooming are important in the board room, and they should be important in politics, too. Imagine Harry Reid in a mullet, Barney Frank in pink leather biker pants and jacket, Obama in an 8-inch-tall Afro or Supreme Court nominee Kagan in a checked flannel shirt and combat boots. Do you think I'm trying to say something with my combinations of style and person? Well, the styles these people choose for themselves say something about them, too, and what they say about themselves absolutely is fair game for comment - by anyone.

Posted by: dryrunfarm1 | June 11, 2010 6:04 AM | Report abuse

Senator Slummer from NY calls a woman a word that rhymes with witch and it barely gets a mention here and now the hair pulling is cause celebre? Yeah. Right. Your liberal slip is showing.

Posted by: beebop1 | June 11, 2010 6:09 AM | Report abuse

@ pbarnett52

"Ms Fiorina certainly can't run on her success at HP. She nearly destroyed the company."

"So, she does what all politicians do, talk about something she does not like about Senator Boer. Her hair.

Add another 5 year old to the mix."

To pretend that all of Senator Boxer's faults are in her hair, or that Ms. Fiorina "nearly destroyed" HP is truly childish.

Posted by: neopatetic | June 11, 2010 6:13 AM | Report abuse

Anyone that has heard Barbara Boxer Speak knows she has the IQ of an 8-year old child, and while Fiorina simply commented on Boxer's hair.....she should have referred to her squirrel-like intellect or her rambling, non-sensical monolouges in the Senate. Fiorina should be the next US Senator from California simply because she has an IQ over 100....something Boxer isn't even close to. It's time for California to stop embarrassing itself and rid itself of Waters, Pelosi, Waxman, Boxer and others - why can't California chose intelligent people to represent them in Washington DC?

Posted by: Realist20 | June 11, 2010 6:16 AM | Report abuse

@goldengateview

"Election 2010: Nevada Senate
Nevada Senate: Angle 50%, Reid 39%
Thursday, June 10, 2010

Sharron Angle, following her come-from-behind Republican Primary win Tuesday, has bounced to an 11-point lead over Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in Nevada’s closely-watched U.S. Senate race.
A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in Nevada, taken Wednesday night, shows Angle earning 50% support while Reid picks up 39% of the vote. Five percent (5%) like some other candidate, and six percent (6%) are undecided."

Harry Reid is the incumbent. He has been around for decades. Nevadans have come to know Senator Reid quite well over all those years. That is precisely why they can't wait to kick his a**: they found out he's a lot more of a nut than they can stand to put up with.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/nevada/election_2010_nevada_senate

Posted by: neopatetic | June 11, 2010 6:36 AM | Report abuse

Quick! Quick! The Republican said something stupid! Let's blow it out of proportion and save our floundering candidate - you know, the one the LA Times wouldn't even endorse due to her lack of "intellectual firepower" (i.e. she's dumb as a bag or rocks):

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-endorse-20100507-18,0,6999694.story

A Major news organization wasting its time on this nonsense is like someone being paid by ESPN to comment that one team is better than another because they have cooler helmets, or because their star wide receiver is not a jerk like the other guy. As for Boxer, why don't you do some research and comment on the supposedly reprehensible remarks she made against Condoleeza Rice way back when, intimating that Rice was not qualified to make decisions on troop deployments because she was childless? What about her childish rant against a commander of men and women in our Armed Forces who had the audacity to call her "ma'am"? Yeah, Boxer's a real winner. But please, by all means, continue to focus on the "hair flap". Let's not waste precious resources actually covering the disastrous, Katrina-times-100 response of this misadministration and their man-child village idiot leader Obungler...this is faaaaarrrrr more important....

Posted by: ihatethepost1 | June 11, 2010 6:37 AM | Report abuse

Whoopee, another Republican Woman Candidate that we can slam, trust the quality of the Women running for the Democrats will receive equal scrutiny from the this wonderful nearsighted Helen Thomas stand-in.

Posted by: ZebZ | June 11, 2010 6:50 AM | Report abuse

The usual... half the posters here don't even get it.

the point, the whole point, and nothing but the point is why should anyone vote for you?

Childish school yard taunts about looks and hair are simply not even part of a leadership discussion. I cannot remember a single male candidate who ever commented on the clothes or hair of their opponent...

I don't remember any candidate with such a potty mouth as Sarah Palin, and certainly none have ever been so unaware as Angel to start out backed by a racist group and brag what sacred cows they will slaughter, unmindful of the sensitivities of those who vote. only Michelle Bachmann from Minnesota is any dumber, her with her family's hundreds of acres in the soil bank complaining about 'big government'.

Its like the republican female has suddenly become the Biker "b......", vying for the seat behind the nastiest of the nasty daddies, not to deal with real Americans with real problems, but to prove their nasty bonafides.


Posted by: dutchess2 | June 11, 2010 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Lighten up Ms. Marcus. The only thing about this episode more catty than Ms. Fiorina's comment would be, um, your use of your national forum in taking her to task for it. Maybe you should consider your own inability to leave the 9th grade behind...

Posted by: Lukey | June 11, 2010 6:59 AM | Report abuse

@ csintala79

"Carly is pretty catty."

The comment about Senator Boxer's hair, while accurate, was a bit on the catty side, but certainly not enough, in and of itself, to support such a judgment as csintala79 would render about Ms. Fiorina in general.

"Is this what we have gained with the emergence of women candidates? It is hard to imagine male political adversaries obsessing about their opponents hair styles."

Please be more serious than to ask such a frivolous question. This nation has made huge strides in the arena of electing women to high office and we are very much the better for having done so. To pretend that all of that progress is summed up by Ms. Fiorina's casual, off-camera remark is breathtakingly lacking in political and social judgment. Also, it is easy to imagine such candidates as Presidents Reagan and Clinton, Senator Edwards and Governor Blago all obsessing over their own hair, let alone that of their opponents.

"Besides, has Carly looked in the mirror? Her do isn't much to shout about."

I am amused that so many on the Left/Liberal/Democrat side of the debate so strongly criticize Ms. Fiorina for having made a catty remark as to Senator Boxer's hair, then turn right around and hypocritically do the very same thing as part of their own critique of her that they complain Ms. Fiorina did.

"As interesting as her opinion about hair styles is, why hasn't more been made of her dissing Sean Hannity? That would seem to be the real story. She thinks Whitman made a mistake by scheduling an appearance on his show: "You know how he is." What does that mean? How much "T" is in her cup?"

California is going broke. So is the country. We are in the throes of the what seems likely to be one of the greatest environmental disasters in the history of the country, and possibly, before it is over, in the history of the world. Yet, despite those and many other serious issues, like nuclear proliferation, terrorism, a crisis on the Korean peninsula and what may be the impending collapse of the Euro, what csintala79 thinks is "the real story" has to do with who goes on what talking heads show?

Really?

Wow.

Posted by: neopatetic | June 11, 2010 7:02 AM | Report abuse

What is this middle school? OMG, did you hear what she said? Big deal. The story isn't worth the space you've taken up on my laptop. The comment was not about her race, creed or color. It was an off-handed remark about her hair.

We get it. You and most of the WaPo writers want everyone to vote for Democrats. It's evident with every headline. I don't remember WaPo making a fuss about Boxer's arrogant treatment of a military officer testifying before her ("Don't call me maam").

Posted by: bethg1841 | June 11, 2010 7:05 AM | Report abuse

quick reaction re; "Marcus: Fiorina gets no pass on Boxer dig".....

and the same to you Marcus for working so hard to make substance out of a fluff of hair- because columnists of all stripes are desperate to find something anything to say to make themselves indispensable?

I hair you but I don't buy it.

Posted by: 27anon72 | June 11, 2010 7:06 AM | Report abuse

Fiorina is just another George W-like business failure who wants to bring her "leadership skills" to public office.
Some people never learn.
Maybe she just wants a job like Sarah Palin's where she can be catty and get paid for it.

Posted by: pjohn2 | June 11, 2010 7:07 AM | Report abuse

and Marcus stoops even lower by writing about it!

Posted by: widget_lmb | June 11, 2010 7:10 AM | Report abuse

and NOBODY commented on Ronald Reagan's hair.

Posted by: widget_lmb | June 11, 2010 7:11 AM | Report abuse

Fiorina is a conservative woman politician, with conservative views on social and fiscal issues. So, let the trashing and hate begin.

Posted by: GeneCar | June 11, 2010 7:22 AM | Report abuse

@ jackson641

"This was an embarassing display of immaturity that would make me cringe if I was the voter."

I'm sure. Just like it would make jackson641 cringe if the President of the United States referred to 'kicking a** on a national network's morning show, when kids can get an earful with their Wheaties. Just like it would make jackson641 cringe if the Vice President of the United States referred to the health care legislation signing as a "big f***ing deal" on national television when he became careless, as Ms. Fiorina did, around an open mike. One becomes more than a little nauseated at all the faux outrage and feigned cringing. One would have hoped we were made of sterner stuff.

"A grown woman belittled an elderly woman and she is supposed to represent our country in a levelheaded fashion. This was very revealing and ugly."

Would that be "very revealing and ugly," like when Senators Levin and McCaskill repeatedly used the word, "sh*tty in a nationally-televised hearing on Goldman Sachs? By the way, those two miscreants did not have the excuse that their remarks were not intended for public consumption. As in this case with Ms. Fiorina, they were, however, only quoting what someone else had said, or at least for the most part. Senator Levin pushed the enelope and used that scatological term without directly quoting, in at least one instance during those hearings.

One imagines jackson641 becoming overwhelmed by an attack of the vapors and simply swooning away.

Posted by: neopatetic | June 11, 2010 7:24 AM | Report abuse

Ya gotta admit, she does have a bad haircut, not as bad as that of Butch Kagen or Obama's ugly wife, but bad nonetheless

Posted by: BPCHI | June 11, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

The bar has already been set low for Liberals. Biden knows lots of Indians in his home state who work at 7 elevens (remember him? He's second in line to the Presidency now). Schumer taunted a female flight attendant with a similar (off the cuff) remark - calling her a b***h. Of course, Ruth Marcus was all over them...right?????

Posted by: ihatethepost1 | June 11, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Fiorina commented on Boxers Hair????

Who cares ???? Who cares ????Who cares ????Who cares ????Who cares ????Who cares ????Who cares ????Who cares ????Who cares ????Who cares ????

only a buch of whiney pea brained dames would care about this .....


Who cares ????Who cares ????Who cares ????

Posted by: killerm | June 11, 2010 7:38 AM | Report abuse

You are such a sexist. It is OK to make fun of male politicians hair, but not OK for a woman to make a comment. In case you can't remember criticism of male politicians hair, think back to John Kerry and his VP choice. They were both labeled with the hair helmet moniker as well as being called the Breck girls.
Just like always, it is women who bring down women by attacking them for doing just what he men do. I bet when you see a strong woman who demands excellence and rises to the top, you are one of the first to call her a "B with an itch". If she is nice, you probably say she slept her way to the top. You really need to take a look at yourself and seek counseling to find out why you hate women so much.

Posted by: crusmisel | June 11, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Neopatic said:

@ jackson641

"This was an embarassing display of immaturity that would make me cringe if I was the voter."

I'm sure. Just like it would make jackson641 cringe if the President of the United States referred to 'kicking a** on a national network's morning show, when kids can get an earful with their Wheaties.

B.O's statement about "kicking a$$" was a response to a question about kicking butt. This a lot different than putting down an elderly woman's hair, just as the use of slang is in the other examples you named.

Face it, Fiorina revealed a lack of maturity and an ugly side. Regardless of her skills (doubtful since she was ranked 19 on list of worst CEO's by Portfolio magazine as HP lost half of its stock value) putting down an older woman's appearance made her look foolish and petty.

No, it is not the end of the world, but it is embarassing. She showed a lack of intelligence and maturity that makes people lose respect. Basically, she looked like an idi0t.

Posted by: jackson641 | June 11, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Ho Hum. Failing at HP demonstrates an aptitude for politics!!! At least we know her limitations going in. As for the cattiness, the "media" are all over anything that can be stretched into a news item, no matter how insignificant. Women (and some men) utter snide remarks about hair as commonplace conversation. So what! Perhaps we should be informed as to the cost of said hair. Perhaps $600, as was so heatedly reported about another candidate? Here we have another tempest in a teapot. Ruth, have you been having a slow day?

Posted by: Geezer4 | June 11, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

@ Aprogressiveindependent

"I am not a Republican and will not vote for her, but this is very trivial indeed. As if there are not about a thousand more important subjects to be discussing."

I am a Republican and will vote for her, and I completely agree that this is very trivial indeed. My hat is off to Aprogressiveindependent, who has restored my battered faith in my fellow Americans to put aside the partisanship long enough to make a rational assessment as to the relative importance of such things as this.

Bravo, Aprogressiveindependent: let us all learn from and profit by your example.

Posted by: neopatetic | June 11, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Given the economic state of California right now do they realy need a Senator who single-handedly managed to run a major corporation aground? Just another self-absorbed, obstuctionist Republican relying on the political strategy set forth by the RNC: "Never underestimate the power of large groups of stupid people." Pretty much what the Republican Party has counted on since Ronnie Reagan slithered into office.

Posted by: Bushwhacked1 | June 11, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse

The fact that Marcus would even write about this shows she's just doing the same thing Fiorina did. I guess cattiness is just something that never goes away...

Posted by: silencedogoodreturns | June 11, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Ms Ruth Marcus is whining because Ms Fiorina said something about the Senator's hair? Where was Ms. Marcus when the good Senator rebuked an Army Brigadier General while testifying before her committee for calling her Ma'am?

Posted by: rowca | June 11, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Democrats have displayed profound antiAmericanism over the past decades......


....so, frankly, nothing anyone does to them bothers a normal American at all...

Stick with liberalism and perversions become normal and affirmative action elects a President.....

November 2010 is when payback begins and it will be sweet to destroy their foolish dreams.

The tears of liberals will make a wonderful drink..... :)

Posted by: georgedixon | June 11, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

You gotta be kidding me, so much to do about a hair comment; jezzzz can we get a little substantive and not be so concerned about trivia!

Rome is burning with these left wing radicals in office and we talk about hair. It's no wonder we're going down the tubes in a hand basket!

Posted by: dac6803 | June 11, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Hair comments? Who cares? While at Hewlett Packard, Fiorina destroyed 30,000 good American jobs. That's what disqualifies her from becoming a US Senator, not some offhand remark about Barbara Boxer's hair.

Posted by: ancient_mariner | June 11, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Y'all need to grow up. It's hair.

She probably just meant to imply that Barbara Boxer is "so yesterday". And it's not like that's a bad thing.

It's not as though we haven't made fun of Republican women.

Nancy's dress, Barbara'a eyes and white hair, Marilyn Quayle's hat, Sarah's glasses and hair. Who cares!

It's not news unless the media makes it news. The media concentrating on the superficial, that's how Barack got nominated and elected!

Posted by: RedGreenBlue | June 11, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Incredible,,the old girl with no makeup and the mannish hair talking this way about anyone

Posted by: gonville1 | June 11, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

As any good car mechanic knows, its what is under the hood that counts. I kind of like the Boxer doo. But the engine it covers has some pretty leaky gaskets.

Posted by: hipshot | June 11, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Isn't the new code for out of touch political views "That hair"? Stay tuned.

Posted by: tjcnc60 | June 11, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Go over to the Huffington Post and read five thousand comments on whether or not Sarah Palin has had breast augmentation.

Posted by: palainausa | June 11, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

What' with the hair? Sooo yesterday.

Well, Carly you are talking about the majority of women who are Sen. Boxer's age. Actually, we have more important things on our plate then the "latest" hair style, like, let's see, food, clothing, shelter, educations, health-care, bills, bills, bills for children, elder parents care, you name it, honey, we got it on our plate so the hair takes a "trunk seat" not even a "back seat" and I guess that Sen. Boxer's plate is a full as ours,

Glad you have time to pretty yurself up though.

Posted by: rannrann | June 11, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

It's in.

Some Republican women are just as catty and petty as their Republican male counterparts.

And, if you pay attention like I have over the last few years, Republican politician's have nothing of real value to offer our democracy, other than to attack their opponents physical traits. All day and every day.

So far, I have not seen or heard one Republican speak to our nations problems. When a so-called political leader has nothing to offer the country, they have nothing other than to assassinate their opponents character, and in this case (and several other cases) their opponents physical appearance, so that they can try to make themselves look and feel better about who they are.

We now know what Fiorina truly represents and that is an insecure catty and petty minded woman.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | June 11, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

oh give me a break!! Like nobody's ever made fun of Blagos "mop", or Joe Biden's "plugs" or John "Breck Girl" Edwards' "coiffeur".
It's not just women that can be "catty".

And what WAS up with that hair??

Posted by: CSinMiami | June 11, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Fiorina is stupid and thank God that was determined early. "Money can't buy you class"

Posted by: sabrina2 | June 11, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Too funny that Marcus chooses, as an example, John Edwards getting in "hot water" over a comment made about Hillary's jacket. How many people made fun of Edwards during the campaign regarding his own hair?? I think that he was referred to on more than one occasion as "The Breck Girl."

Seriously, in order to run in the political world, one needs to develop a thick skin. I suppose maybe this is why Marcus is up in arms about the hair comment while I haven't heard anything from Boxer. Boxer apparently knows that this DOES, indeed, go with the territory.

The reality of it is that nobody is going to vote for or against Boxer based on her hairstyle -- so the comment is, more or less, irrelevant.

Posted by: notimpressed | June 11, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Wow, this is GREAT! High comedy the first thing in the morning. Much Ado About Nothing, but the best part is all of the leftist spin as to why this is important at all. The story is how CNN is excerpting the comment and once again attempting to slant the electoral process. Wake up California, You are BROKE, BUSTED and DISGUSTED and it's time to fix your problems. The old ways will not work anymore and neither will the old politicians. BTW, are you guys TAXED enough yet?

Posted by: Czechbikr | June 11, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

I am not as interested in her comments about hair as I am in her receiving a huge golden parachute after laying off so many people at HP and being fired.

What was it the Republican party was saying about such executives during the 2008 campaign?

Posted by: jim4postnatl | June 11, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

I am not as interested in her comments about hair as I am in her receiving a huge golden parachute after laying off so many people at HP and being fired.

What was it the Republican party was saying about such executives during the 2008 campaign?

Posted by: jim4postnatl |

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That was before she got fired from HP her self.

Right?

Right...

Posted by: lcarter0311 | June 11, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse


Politics, as it turns out for the men is attacking each other over the lack of machismo by accusing their opponents that they're weak on national security.

And for women it appears they accuse each other of not being in fashion.

It kind of gives you the impression that for Fiorina this is simply one big fashion show, doesn't it?

Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | June 11, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

This is leftist hypocrisy at its most ridiculous.

Palin was - and is - called a hor, a pig (by the leftist president) illegitimate parent and so on and so on.

So what does the leftist media fixate on?

A comment about a fellow traveler's hair.

My my. What a horrific, mean, disgusting this to say. Why, we should Allenize her. Destroy her political ambitions. After all, look at our spotless record as senators - we can't have that sort of meanness! Whats that? The speaker of the house called Americans nazis? Balderdash. The president used a crude, vulgar epitaph to describe right wing Americans? They had it coming.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | June 11, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

meow,this crap is called news?

Posted by: pofinpa | June 11, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Hey Carly, have you checked out Meg Whitman's hair style? Now that' make Boxer look like she belongs on the cover of Vogue. And rerun a few videos from the 2008 GOP convention - it looks like 90% of the women had colored, teased and lacquered their way back to the 60's. Now how about moving on to some really important stuff like clothes and shoes, enough with ragging on hairstyles. But hey, there's still plenty of time to get that pump out of your mouth.

Posted by: mcordray | June 11, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Marcus - who cares? Who freakin' cares? This isn't news. This isn't worth writing about. If you're going to pass yourself off as a journalist, at least act like one and write about something relevant. Nobody (except an idiot) cares about what Carly said about Barbara's hair, or what Barbara retored back. It's not important.

Posted by: wadeb123 | June 11, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Looks like the $40M she effectively stole from HP after she trashed the company hasn't helped her attitude and immaturity at all. She ruined a great company.

Posted by: deepee1 | June 11, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

I've tended to vote conservative and republican most of my life.......and I will never, ever, vote for Carly Fiorina. This woman brought ruination to HP in a way that is difficult to even conceive. If the devil himself was running against her, I'd give the devil serious consideration. She cold, manipulative, self-centered and internally ugly. Do not trust her, period.

Posted by: richard36 | June 11, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

All of this fuss about a comment about Boxer's hair is just more media nonsense, peddled by nonsense peddlers. Better to be tricked by these media slugs now than to be tricked the day before the election.

Posted by: hared | June 11, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

For those of you who think that Fiorina's hair comment is a non-story, then you shouldn't cry when her so called corporate experience is overshadowed by her Mean Girl image. No woman likes a Mean Girl. The vast majority of women have friends who were ridiculed by Mean Girls in middle school and high school. Fiornia may be a girl friend of Palin but no body likes a Mean Girl. This was no gaffe, Fiornia is that way when the cameras are off too.

Posted by: adelef_2000 | June 11, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Love it! Go Carly-finally someone to take down babs.

Posted by: jgoodsonar | June 11, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

"You know, could all you comment people do me a favor. Could you say ’senator badhair’ instead of ‘ma’am?’ It’s just a thing, I worked so hard to get that bad hair, so I’d appreciate it." BB

Posted by: 2pigsfly | June 11, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

My Christmas present to Ruth Marcus will be the "Panty Unbuncher 5000" from Ronco.

Really? Your knickers are in a twist over this?

Get some perspective, you nutjob. It was a harmless little joke. Oh, and by the way, it was also true. Barbara Boxer's hair is a nightmare on wheels. (Then again, Carly's kind of in a glass house on that front).

Your faux outrage isn't passing the smell test.

(I know. Maybe Fiorina should have properly addressed Barbara as "Senator" Boxer. Maybe then people wouldn't be so miffed.)

Get a grip, Ruth Marcus. There is the edge and then there is the abyss, and we all know where you are.

Posted by: etpietro | June 11, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I find it remarkable that such focus is paid on an inadvertent comment rather than one's IDEAS and PRINCIPLES. Am I going to vote for or against someone based on this kind of comment? Nope. I am more concerned about what the candidate stands for in terms of policy. Sadly, Ms. Marcus seems intent to flame the passions of the average voter into voting against someone not because you don't like their policies, but because you don't like an irrelevant comment they've made. Criticizing Ms. Fiorina based on this comment seems a lot like making fun of someone's hair than anything else.

Posted by: jeffdc1 | June 11, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

For those who have criticized Senator Boxer for asking a general to call her "Senator" rather than "Ma'am", I appreciate that "Ma'am" and "Sir" are used in the military. However, I respect Senator Boxer for what she said. This was a woman who has worked hard to become a U.S. Senator during a time when it was still highly unusual, and difficult, for a woman to achieve such a high level of responsibility in our society -- which it still is, although to a lesser extent thanks to women of both parties and many professions who have fought through the difficulties. I think those who were there have the right to enjoy their titles and the respect they signify -- and again, I am talking about women of all political persuasions. Whether you are, or are not, a fan of Barbara Boxer is irrelevant here. BTW, I think she phrased her request to the general in a polite fashion, and explained what she meant to him, so I don't see this as a "slam" or as arrogance on her part. Unfortunately, in today's polarized world in which the tiniest remark elicits instant fury from someone, it's unfortunate that this incident was picked up in this way. Having said that, I suggest that Senator Boxer probably picked up votes from her natural constituents over this, although I don't think that's why she did it.

Posted by: j24w | June 11, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse


HAIR?

That is not news.

This is news...

WHAT IS TAXED . COM

Posted by: truthfullyspeaking | June 11, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Everyone's missing the point here. Fiorina's comment on Boxer's hair was a nudge and a wink to the racists who comprise what remains of the Republican base. The coded language of racism hasn't changed in the last hundred years.

Posted by: dnahatch1 | June 11, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Unbelievable. You people saying Carly's not being nice? You are just proving liberals are insane.

As much damage as Obama is doing to America, it may be a good thing in the long run. Jimmy Carter did the same, and we weathered it. I pray we do it again (but I have serious doubts).

Posted by: Squiggy1 | June 11, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Ruth,
You're a sensible woman. And this is NOT a controversy. If Fiorina had made this comment in public or was trying to make it into a public issue to get people not to like Boxer or if the media was making comments about Boxer's hair or appearance as if it was actual political commentary (like when they endlessly talked about Hillary's fashion) then I'd be with you. But this was a remark made by Fiorina in private that happened to be caught on mic. Do you really think that women don't go around critiquing other women's clothes, hair, fashion etc? I'm a guy and I've heard women do it all the time (and men do it too). Who cares what Fiorina thinks of Boxer's hair?! There's nothing scandalous about Fiorina making a private comment about another woman's appearance. It might be catty, but it's not scandalous. Calm down.

Posted by: Eric12345 | June 11, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Senator "Maam" Boxer has tried to be "most popular" and "prom queen" at that same middle school for quite some time. I distinctly remember Boxer's juvenile, sophomoric, adolescent, and catty dressing down of the Army general officer for calling her "Maam," which is a perfectly acceptable and respectful title to be called in the military. That little episode revealed her character as a "public servant." Along with her nutty liberal ideas is why Boxer is a poster child for all that is wrong with the "progressive agenda" in Washington. I have zero, zip, nada confidence in her ability to make sound, common sense public policy decisions that affect my home and family. That's the more serious issue that should be discussed. Forget her "squirrel's nest" of a hair style.

Posted by: Husker78 | June 11, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Boy, the left is really in melt down mode...Macaca Moment??? What a bunch of despirate loons. I don't care what Boxer's hair looks like- Just how she has helped to destroy this country. I think her dressing down a true patriot is more of a Macaca Moment for Barb than anything Ms. Fiorina said.

Posted by: celticnf | June 11, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

j24w: It was clear to anyone watching that this left-wing shrew was attempting to dress down the general. It is part of her character. She loathes the military except when it involves military funding for something in California. If she had her way the U.S. Army would all look like the Village People.

Posted by: 2pigsfly | June 11, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

The comment was trivial at best, but it does provide a small glimpse into the kind of person Fiorina is, and how she is likely to conduct her campaign.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | June 11, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

True colors emerge- a grown woman with the underlying mentality of a middle school mean girl. Good luck California. You're gonna need it.

Posted by: PatC1 | June 11, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

It does go with the territory that women in politics have more attention paid to their appearance than male candidates.

Right. I mean no one has ever said anything about Blagos hair, or Trafficants wig...or Bill Clinton and John Kennedys looks.
Fact, as long as we have a large population more concerned with a pop culture than Liberty we will always judge candidates in mindless ways such as looks.

Posted by: shane1271 | June 11, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Barbara Boxer's hair looks fine. Watchu talkin' 'bout, Fiorina?

Posted by: tonyprzy | June 11, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Hag Carly... how can you be so rich and look so bad? I still think she's a man in drag.

Posted by: EdSantaFe | June 11, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Barbara Boxer's hair looks fine. Watchu talkin' 'bout, Fiorina?

Posted by: tonyprzy | June 11, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Who cares!!!!

Posted by: donnakkk | June 11, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing that anyone would want to be governor of California. Nation's largest failed state is more like it.

Posted by: Ralphinjersey | June 11, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Amazing that someone could write an entire column about this.

WE

DON'T

CARE

Posted by: drjcarlucci | June 11, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Criticizing Fiorina for her inappropriate language is ignoring the elephant in the room -- she was a catastrophe as the CEO of HP, and was named among the 20 Worst CEOs of All Time!!!

OMG! She was John McCain's financial advisor during the 2008 campaign!!! (Who do you think told him that "the fundamentals of the economy are strong???)

So leave her alone. Barbara Boxer's hair is ALL SHE'S QUALIFIED TO DISCUSS!!!

Posted by: leftcoastblue | June 11, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Marcus stick to what matters: 1. Why Barbara Boxer deserves another term in the US Senate. 2. What skills does Carly Fiorina has that will improve the lives of Californians, or how it impacts National policy.

Posted by: bill_delgrosso | June 11, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Look, I am all for more women in leadership at all levels of both business and government. But just look at the level of quality and gravitas of some of the women that are making news these days: Sarah Palin has shown herself to be something of an imbecile, not even having the most fundamental level of knowledge one would expect of a VP candidate or any other office. Michelle Bachmann, Virginia Fox, both Lowden and Angle in Nevada, have all shown themselves to be quite honestly, unfit for even menial positions, let alone leadership positions at the highest levels of government.

Fiorina has some semblance of valuable experience as does Meg Whitman. Yet both of them suffer from this same conservative tendency to use personal insults toward their opposition.

I guess I am puzzled by this conservative need even among conservative women, to resort to such gutter tactics against the opposition. If the GOP really does want to appeal to women voters, one would think they could come up with more women who exhibit professionalism and gravitas instead of acting in the same boorish manner as the good ol' boys they are replacing.

Posted by: jaxas70 | June 11, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I'm no Fiorina fan but give me a break... she joked about someones hair when she thought she was off camara.. SO WHAT??? Off camara people talk about other peoples appearance... hair, clothes, shoes, whatever it's no big deal. In a paid add or a stump speech yeah silly if not stupid to do.. off camara it means nothing..

Posted by: sovine08 | June 11, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

It's always entertaining to see what provokes DC progressive - socialist - communist - anarchist - libtard outrage. Now it's hair. Retail sales have just taken a huge drop, an unresponsive WH is paralyzed as oil destroys the Gulf Coast economy, our Middle East ally Israel has been thrown to the wolves by Ozero, massive tax increases begin January 1, 2011, the unemployment rate is over ten percent and climbing, federal spending is out of control, Islamic terrorism is on the rise both here and abroad, European socialism has, as correctly stated by Margaret Thatcher, "finally run out of other people's money", our southern border is a war zone as illegal immigrants flood our country,...but the coddled, arrogant, anti-American liberal elitists inhabiting Virginia, Maryland, and DC are in a hissy-fit about a hair comment. Your God, George Soros, will be so proud of you!

Posted by: DocSavage1 | June 11, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Really? this is what is important in a dialogue about the elections in California?

Posted by: bill_delgrosso | June 11, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Right. And nobody ever snarked about John Edwards' hair, of course.

God, what has this nation come to. We are facing colossal, complex problems, and this supposedly serious political commentator whines that she is forced to waste column space to cover snarky remarks by a candidate (who didn't remember she was on an open mike) about another candidate's hair.

Nobody is forcing you to cover this triviality, Ruth. Do some growing up yourself.

Posted by: herzliebster | June 11, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

We already knew that Fiorina was incompetent; she proved that in business. Now we know she is petty. Do people in California vote on hair styles. I never noticed either one's hair.

Posted by: withersb | June 11, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

We already knew that Fiorina was incompetent; she proved that in business. Now we know she is petty. Do people in California vote on hair styles. I never noticed either one's hair.

Posted by: withersb | June 11, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Ahh...let the cat fights begin. Or not.

I was going to say 'high school', but no, Ruth is right. Middle school.
Fiorina was amateur hour for McCain and had to banished over her McCain not being able to run a major corporation remark (which was probably accurate-Cindy does-and Carly also did badly). She's still amateur hour.
Boxer will buzz cut her right out
of the arena.

Posted by: dcunning1 | June 11, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Obviously, a comment on Boxer's hair has got the less intelligent among us with their panties in a twist. Boxer has disgraced and failed herself, her constituents and Congress at every turn; no argument can refute that. The results speak for themselves. So, if the smug left wants to swarm all over a comment over HAIR, they deserve to be taken apart by Fiorina.

Posted by: Catherine11 | June 11, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

If anyone is being "catty", it is the author of this silly article. I will never forget the debate between Ronald Reagan and Walter Mondale (live television), when Reagan made fun of Mondale's horrific make-up job. We all loved it and no one accused Reagan of being "catty".

Posted by: AG52 | June 11, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

For my part, too many of these GOP women have failed to demonstrate a level of maturity and solid grasp of the world we live in in this 21st century. Palin Bachmann, Foxx, Lowden and Angle are quite simply too nutty and immature for any office that requires a fundamental understaniding of the modern world. They seem to think we are still back in the 18th century.

But, Fiorina and Whitman--thought not as screwy as those I listed above--are just as out of touch with the problems of everyday Americans and by dint of their wealth and connections to big business are not likely to be sympathetic to anyone outside the boardrooms or counting houses.

Posted by: jaxas70 | June 11, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

If the comment about Boxer's hair style was juvenile, what does that say about a columnist who would waste time and space to write about it, much less take money to do so. Given the state of the nation and the world, I find this kind of "reporting" to be disgusting and an utter waste. Are there no editors at the WP? Let's have some real news.

Posted by: drawlr | June 11, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

"No no no no no! It does go with the territory that women in politics have more attention paid to their appearance than male candidates."

Oh screw you. I guess you weren't around during the 2008 primary season when half the Washington Post (and other mainstream print) coverage of Hilary Clinton related in some way to her (1) appearance, (2) marriage, (3) personality as a woman and (4) outright blatant sexist portrayals of her attitudes and postures.

And then, presumably, you were asleep during the mainstream media's ridiculing, lampooning and satirizing of Sarah Palin using image- and body-related sexist portrayals of her.

The Washington Post and other liberal media dominated outlets are the masters of sexist bashing of women in politics.

Posted by: AsperGirl | June 11, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Really Bill_degrasso? Wasn't it Fiorina who began this trivial discussion? You morons on the right kill me. You get your cookies off by listening to this sort of childish snark every single day by listening to that porky, sour idiot Rush Limbaugh and that puerile little snot Glenn Beck who seems to be perpetually huffing into a brown paper bag, and now you're all wet in the pants over Ruth Marcus pointing out just how silly and catty Fiorona is.

More evidence that the right loves to dish it out but they can't take it themselves.

Posted by: jaxas70 | June 11, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

I'm no Fiorina fan but give me a break... she joked about someones hair when she thought she was off camara.. SO WHAT??? Off camara people talk about other peoples appearance... hair, clothes, shoes, whatever it's no big deal. In a paid add or a stump speech yeah silly if not stupid to do.. off camara it means nothing..

Posted by: sovine08 |

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Yea, but this coming from a woman running as a state legislator for the state of California.

Her getting fired from HP and making little comments about her opponents hair speaks volumes about her character and her leadership style.

Her comments reminds me of the time when Jesse Jackson Sr., was caught on camera making comments about President Obama's gonad's, during the 2008 presidential campaign. And we both know how men feel about their gonad's, probably the same as women feel about their hair.

Jackson sounded quite envious and jealous of the president when he made those comments, and we also know what his leadership style was/is like, too.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | June 11, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Boxer's a cow. Is that catty enough for you?

Posted by: drawlr | June 11, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

So, conservative women are "catty" and "mean girls." I guess the evidence shows that conservative Republican women are NEVER the object of liberal hate. Their looks and wardrobe are NEVER criticized (the paltry $150k election campaign wardrobe makeover criticism of Sarah Palin was 100% justified; even though Michelle Obama wore single gowns that cost more than that she gets a pass because she's a liberal maried to a liberal). Conservative women who have accomplished much more in life than being an ACORN "community organizer" are always IDIOTS and HATERS to liberals. That's a given because anyone who is a conservative MUST be an idiot and a hater.

Posted by: anonemuss225 | June 11, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Oh get off it! the phony Post! Dem/libs make nasty comments about repubs. constantly..Palin, Bush,anyone who suits your fancy!! The usual hypocrisy!

Posted by: nonewy3003 | June 11, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Actually, Boxer's big mouth needs an adjustment more than her hair. Talk about a venomous woman. Review Boxer's interview with the general when she demanded that he desist calling her "ma'am" because she was an important "senator." Boxer is no "ma'am." She's a shrew.

Posted by: judithod | June 11, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

DocSavage, spoken like a true Limbaugh anal sucking deciple. You regurgitated all of Lamebaugh's smelly droppings--socialists, anarchists, communists, libtards. None of which actually applies to liberals or progressives but anarchists comes pretty close to the nauseating philosophy bugs like you would drop on us.

Look, you smarmy little thug--the very fact that you are on this advanced bit of communications wizardry dribbling absolute nonsense from your gnarly fingers is by dint of heavy government expenditures in Research and Development carried out in DOD and initiated and promoted by Vice President Al Gore as part of his the Clinton-Gore Reinvention of Government program. Socialist? Communist? If so I await your announcement that you will not participate in any technical advance brought about by evil socialist government spending.

Posted by: jaxas70 | June 11, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

I see have you all have conveniently forgotten how Palin was trashed by the Libs and, in fact, still is. See the HuffPo speculation on her asset augmentation.

Posted by: jnpublic
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Being trashed by libs or any blogger is very different than have the candidate do it. And in this case the reason it matters is that the candidate isn't criticizing anything legitimate but is showing herself to be a catty, small-minded school girl. That may not be about an actual issue but it tells a lot about her character. That's why this matters and is worth a column.

Posted by: bgormley1 | June 11, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Carly Fiorina was fired from her CEO position at HP. Who cares what she says. About anything. She's ineffective.

Posted by: jkarlinsky | June 11, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

It's not Boxer's hairstyle so much as its color. Notice how it's a different color every month with ridiculous streaks, highlights and shadings. Her hair is almost as ephemeral as her dotty brain, but The Wash. Post would rather criticize for comments on the hair.

Posted by: donwayne69 | June 11, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Definition of ironic:

Left - Qualifications to be a US Senator: candidate on the right must have 100% positive credentials as an executive. (we will leave alone the pile of smelly poo from Minnesota for right now.)

Left - Qualifications for US President: Isn't he just DREAMY!!????!!!!!

Now, lets talk hair.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | June 11, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

All you need to know about Carly Fiorina, she's a GOP hack and is using the tea party. She failed out of law school after one semester! LOL.

- During her time at HP, HP shares declined more than 50%.
- As HP CEO she shipped American jobs to India and China.
- She cut worker salaries by $130m while collecting $90m for herself.
- She collected a $42m golden parachute and $50k for career counseling.
- She is rated one of the 20 worst CEOs in history along w/ Ken Lay of Enron.
- Her leadership was "disastrous."

Chuck DeVore was the teaparty candidate, endorsed by the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Assoc. and Natl Tax Limitation Cmte (Carly distributed a mailer with the lie that they had endorsed her!). Lew Uhler, the NTLC prez wrote "Let me be clear, I do not support CF, her campaign's dishonest tactics are a disgrace."

-Connie Bruck, The New Yorker, "Right Fight" 6/7/10, page 34

Posted by: sm4269a | June 11, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Carly takes a humorous jab "off-camera" at her opponent and you get your knickers in a knot ?

But heck.. you go on record calling Angle a "nut" ? And hey forget the vitriol tossed daily at Palin by the supposedly women-friendly Left ?

Not a hint of hypocrisy ?

Ah you compassionate clueless leftists.

Posted by: pvilso24 | June 11, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

I see from some of the comments that Carly knows her base and knows they think that kind of talk is acceptable. It won't help her with anyone except her small base, though I can promise you.

Posted by: bgormley1 | June 11, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

This flap wont last another day, but I thought the columnist's article was important in the sense that we are reminded that politicians are people too....with their foibles, prejudices, and character defects. A professional woman who can tell it like it is, ala the cattiness of the female magnified when under pressure and in a position of power.
It is what it is.

As a Conservative, I don't give Republicans or Democrats a free pass.

As for the tiresome post above regarding Republicans being racist...I remind that Republicans passed the Civil Rights Bill in the '60's while Senator KKK Byrd, a southern Democrat, voted against it. As did his brethren.

However, this notion that Democrats are for black Americans is partially correct. They contrive to keep African Americans on the Democrat Plantation. Decades of welfare have crippled generations of Blacks.

Conservatives have historically worked to set Blacks free to realize their individual potentials. Thousands of Black Americans will attest.

This is not debatable. Even a cursory examination of socio/political chronology in America makes this tenet unassailable.

Encapsulated proof lies with the advancement of many Blacks and women...embodied in the wonderful career of Condoleeza Rice, a Black woman who did not just play sock puppet to a president.

She advised. And she was listened to.

Posted by: MarkBench | June 11, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

'see from some of the comments that Carly knows her base and knows they think that kind of talk is acceptable'

As opposed to, say, hor, teabaggers, nazis, brownshirts, traitors, "punch back", "get in their faces", counterpunch.

Lets talk hair.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | June 11, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Liberal media attacks are coming fast and furious already.. and if they have nothing on you THIS is what they chose to base their attacks on? AN offhanded remark about someone's hairstyle??

And you call yourself a journalist?

Posted by: itsbob | June 11, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

This is too funny! The right spurts all over itself listening to the quackings of Limbaugh and Beck every day not to mention the incomprehensible burblings of Palin on her titter-twitter, and the insane conspiracy theories of the evil twin sister wretches Bachmann and Foxx in the House. And not even mentioning that they have an entire network of dull witted wretches on Fox News who for 8 years buffed the buttocks of Bush Cheney while making blackboard scratching sounds ove any democrat who dared challenge the conventional wisdom of neocon doggerel, and now that one their California Dreamin' hopes for a revival tent Congress, Carly Fiorina, has shown her backside to America which uncannily resembles her front side and rightfully gets called on it by the media, they are all in a funk and getting that messy pants feeling.

Am I enjoying this? You betcha!

Posted by: jaxas70 | June 11, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Carly the failed HP CEO took the money and ran..... for Congress. Now that she's bought the nomination, let's watch her fade away and become "so yesterday" real fast. Butch hag.

Posted by: EdSantaFe | June 11, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Itsbob, do you mean like the off-handed remark that Barack Obama made about barfy rednecks like you "clinging to their guns and religion" that got you conservatives thongs in a twist about your, uhhh, tiny little jewels?

Posted by: jaxas70 | June 11, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

'see from some of the comments that Carly knows her base and knows they think that kind of talk is acceptable'

As opposed to, say, hor, teabaggers, nazis, brownshirts, traitors, "punch back", "get in their faces", counterpunch.

Lets talk hair.

~~~

But, not once have you ever heard Barbara Boxer or any other left-wing politician making these comments about their opponents: "hor, teabaggers, nazis, brownshirts, traitors, "punch back", "get in their faces", counterpunch".

Not once have you ever.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | June 11, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

So if you think it's a trivial matter, why are you reporting on it? If she said she disliked Boxer's purse, would you write 2,500 words about that as well?

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Posted by: TheMSMControlsUs | June 11, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Jaxas we are glad you enjoy this.

Enjoy the coming hyper inflation. Enjoy the hyper regulation of your life.

Enjoy the destruction of the U.S. Constitution.

Enjoy the loss of freedom of speech on the internet.

Enjoy your neighbors watching you for signs of non compliance.

See Spot run. See Dick jump. See Jane gossip.

See jaxas wonder what happened to his country. See jaxas cry.

Posted by: MarkBench | June 11, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

LOL Virginia....indeed.

Posted by: MarkBench | June 11, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

lcarter - Nancy Pelosi called fellow Americans nazis. Dick Durbin called fellow Amerians brown shirts and compared our service men and women to those who work in soviet gulags.

The community organizer in chief called fellow Americans tea baggers.

John Kerry called our men and women war criminals.

The list goes on and on of famous quotes of American hating leftist politicians.


These people are a disgrace. Own them. Their are yours.

Lets talk hair.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative |

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I am not aware of this. Do you have any proof of these arguments?

Posted by: lcarter0311 | June 11, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Tea Party influenced candidacies are the not ready for prime players of politics.

Everything is okay to do or say (unless you get called on it). All negative flack is the fault of the media. We (adults) and particulary the GOP are being pulled around by poorly prepared, ill advised and politically inept people who jutify their views, actions and attitudes as a reasonable response to Washington, gridlock and partisanship.

If any Tea Party people get elected (and no Scott Brown is not one), my guess is the learning curve to discovering their idiocy will be steep and difficult.

Its time to make 2010 the year of the debate so that the nonsense of nutballs like Fiorina can be exposed

Posted by: kmwray | June 11, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

So!? Boxers' hair IS a mess.

Let the cat fight begin. This is going to be fun. Go Carly

Posted by: ConservativeBeaner | June 11, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

So you were going to write one thing but just were forced to write another because of a hair comment -??? Why?
I am sure the fact that you never let a chance go by to trash a republican candidate and especially a woman has nothing to do with it. Give me a break! As a woman, I have watched you trash Palin, and I have watched many at this paper absolutely crucify Hillary Clinton as you all rushed to ensure that Obama became the candidate over her. We had to endure talking about her hair, her pantsuits, her cleavage, her laugh and on and on.
So please keep the faux outrage to yourself. Both your appearances on TV and your articles show you enjoy being critical of any republican candidate as much as the next guy.

Posted by: justmyvoice | June 11, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

lcarter - Grow up and do your own research. No one is going to hold your hand.

Thats Obama's job.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative

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That's what I thought. No proof.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | June 11, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Male or female, we should not assume that high powered business executives are necessarily going to be good political leaders. For those in DC, we remember that Sharon Pratt Kelly was an effective business executive but turned out to be less than stellar as mayor of the city. I think Fiorina needs to be scrutinized far more carefully than she has been so far. HP could fire her at any time. In the Senate we have to wait 6 years and then hope we can find someone to replace the seat holder.

Posted by: mickle1 | June 11, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Funny, I don't remember anyone at the Washington Post defending Sarah Palin against crass comments on HER hairstyle. In fact, it sure seemed like everything about her EXCEPT her record as governor was fair game. Boxer DOES look like crap. But more important, she IS a disgrace, not only for helping to bankrupt her state and this country, but for her incredibly rude and insuling behavior to Brigadier General Michael Walsh in the Senate. What a display of arrogance! Get Boxer and her kind out of the Senate, House and yes, the White House. the sooner the better.

Posted by: lostein | June 11, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

"That's what I thought. No proof."

What you posted, publicly, for everyone, who is not an idiot, to view, exposes you for what you are.

The proof is out there. In spades. If you choose to live with your head buried up Obama's donkey, that is your choice. Its a free country. Just don't pretend to be rational.

How does it feel to be amongst an ever dwindling number of fools and useful idiots? Soon, you will have to seek each other out like some night dwelling parasites - ever in fear of sunlight.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | June 11, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Its always been amazing to me that Calif. had to reach deep down into the bowels of New York to come up with a Senator like Boxer ..She lies like she breaths ...The author of this "hit piece" on carly needs to remember the hate that is spewed every day on conservative women/men ..remember the Hate heaped on John Roberts and his Family ..His children and wife were slammed (they ,are unruly, they look like the fifties etc..) surely the author can come up with BETTER off mic comments than carlys ..Boxer has made more ON mic gaffs than ,Biden, polosi,reid ,obama,durban,murtha , Get my point marcus ?? Tell Boxer to comb her hair ....

Posted by: Skyehawk | June 11, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Come on, cracks have been made about Biden with his hairplugs and Guiliani with his combover (before he lost it) and various helmet-head hairdos for years. Not nice, sure, but hardly something to jump all over.

Posted by: Johannes1 | June 11, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Carly Fiorina -- All of the paranoia and illegality of Nixon, none of the competence.

Posted by: williamwertman | June 11, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Ruth, I think you're engaging in exactly the sort of behavior you decry. One little comment and you're off and running. Come on, Ruth. Get over it and focus on real issues, please.

Posted by: george39 | June 11, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

to the POST PARTISANS you keep rejecting my comments ...WHY ? i have yet to have a comment published ...you a say i have posted to many comments ..I HAVE YET TO HAVE MY ONE COMMENT PUBLISHED .and compared to others it is quite calm in nature ....whats up ???

Posted by: Skyehawk | June 11, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

It wasn't so much what she said but how she said it. If you watch the whole clip, Fiorina is quoting someone else, but it's her delivery that's creepy. Almost like she'd be twirling a handlebar mustache if she had one.

Posted by: valandsend | June 11, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Come on, cracks have been made about Biden with his hairplugs and Guiliani with his bad combover (before he mercifully lost it). Not nice, sure, but hardly something to jump all over.
Instead of deflecting from real issues by harping on an off-mic comment, lets look at things that actually matter, like Boxer being so owned by Planned Parenthood (which performed over 300K abortions in one year, according to its own report) that she voted against banning partial-birth abortion (in which the "doctor" partly removes a baby and then kills her).

Posted by: Johannes1 | June 11, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Yes Ruthie, this is 'middle school' journalism.
Why not report the other half of the conversation?
Because, it shows that this was a set-up by CNN?

Posted by: C2ShiningC | June 11, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

You have to love the irony of people rushing to comment on this piece, elbowing each other to get a chance to say: "This is a non-issue." Clearly, it's an issue! When a candidate presents a public face that is hiding a private face that is pretty nasty, we need to know about it.

Fiorina shows no class, no good will, no respect, no maturity. If she were a Democrat, I'd say the same thing. She's also the candidate who put out that silly, goofy, amateur, and (yes) also nasty demon sheep ad. It didn't even make sense! It's illogical as a metaphor. The woman is nasty, carping, back-biting, catty, AND unintelligent. Come on, California. You surely have better women to put forward than this one who puts down women!

Posted by: cturtle1 | June 11, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Thank God I get to vote being in California and I don't care if mickey, minnie or donald were running against boxer, she would not get my vote and I am a life long democrat as is my mother and father, retired union worker, sister and brother in law. Enough is enough, she will spend us into the ground and then keep digging. She was so incompetent she was kicked off as head of the global warming commission ( now that is a joke in and of itself) and people want to rag on her opponent. HP seems to be doing pretty well these days, and if we are going to rag on bush for what he did 9 years ago, you have to give her credit for what happened to HP after she left and set in motion a pretty good long term plan.

Posted by: jet202 | June 11, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Left wingers take no prisoners. Had the situation been reversed and Boxer was overheard critiquing a conservative woman's hair, Kagan would be wondering what the commotion was all about. To liberals the personal is political -like everything else is.

Posted by: mhr614 | June 11, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Get to the issues and please lets not talk about abortion. The last time a senator had a vote on this topic nobody of age to need one was even born, this is a supreme court issue not one for the senate so talk about the real issues. Barbara, what have you done for business in California, schools, jobs, taxes, spending, curbing govt waste and the illegal immigration which is killing our state. Oh wait, Barbara, you better go back to and argue abortion, it is your only chance.

Posted by: jet202 | June 11, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

wow.... just mention the hair dooo and look at the left leaning, bed wetting, bugger eating sick o's that come out from under the rock.... oh yeah... george bush made her say it....all of you socialist should go start your own country.....

Posted by: testplot | June 11, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

The bottom line is there's so much more in a woman "looking good" than in a man "looking good" it's something women *have* to consider more.

For a man it's a decent haircut, shaved or trimmed facial hair, a dress shirt, a dark suit, dark dress shoes, and a tie. If I look for a fashion statement in a man it's all in the choice of the tie.

There is so much more going on with women--makeup, hairstyles, brightly-colored clothes, pantsuits or dress suits, heels, brightly-colored shoes (or not), not to mention all the shaving, whether and how much to show at the neckline, how much leg to show, how to hide or accentuate figures, earrings, rings, bracelets, necklaces, scarves, ruffles, and on and on and on.

Just getting one of those things wrong can have a major effect on the impression a woman makes--and getting those things "just right" can have a major effect on the impression a woman makes.

Is there not something about Sarah Palin's glamorous looks that immediately put some of us on guard but draw admiration from others?

Posted by: cmckeonjr | June 11, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

what's a joke is Marcus. It is amazing that anyone would pay her for this c--p!

Posted by: mct1 | June 11, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

what's a joke is Marcus. It is amazing that anyone would pay her for this c--p!

Posted by: mct1 | June 11, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Ruth,
Can you please direct me to your column on Harry Reid calling President Bush a loser to a group of elementary scholl kids? Didnt think so. HACK.

Posted by: j751 | June 11, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Ruth,
Can you please direct me to your column on Harry Reid calling President Bush a loser to a group of elementary scholl kids? Didnt think so. HACK.

Posted by: j751 | June 11, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Mark Bench, what planet are you tweeting on? Hyperinflation you huff? No economist in America right now is talking about inflation. Hyper-regulation you screech? Yeah, right? That's the problem. If we just had fewer regulations that mining disaster in W. Va, that oil spill in the Gulf, that bridge collapse in Minnesota, those levees that failed in New Orleans--none of that would have occurred. And of course the financial collapse, Bernie Madoff, ENRON--NONE OF THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF ONLY THE REGULATORS HAD JUST BUTTED OUT. My God! What planet are you on and what are you smoking!?

Posted by: jaxas70 | June 11, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

The author of this opinion piece said, "It doesn't go with the territory that one candidate -- female or male -- gets a free pass for dissing an opponent's looks."
Ms. Marcus, from the looks of your photo, you are old enough to remember the Reagan vs. Mondale debate in which Reagan made fun of Mondale's overdone make-up job. We all laughed about it (including Mondale). We laughed then, we still laugh about it today and Reagan did get a free pass for his hilarious comment. You are grasping at straws with this silly opinion piece.

Posted by: AG52 | June 11, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I'd really like to know what was going on inside the minds of the California Republicans when they chose Ms. Fiorina for their Senate candidate this week. What great qualities does she bring to the table? Can you honestly say with a straight face that it's her resume, personal charisma or accomplishments?

And please don't tell me that she's not Barbara Boxer. You're forever going on about how the Democrats are stuck on Bush bashing.

At least Sarah Palin didn't outsource thousands of worker's jobs or almost bring a Fortune 500 company to its knees.

Posted by: dldbug | June 11, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

icarter....everything posted about Durbin, Kerry, and company is documented, historical fact.

Hes right...do your own research. Proof? Its fact.

Go look.

You can use the internet can you not?

Oh wait...enjoy it before the Obamanistas take it from you.

Posted by: MarkBench | June 11, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

The author of this opinion piece said, "It doesn't go with the territory that one candidate -- female or male -- gets a free pass for dissing an opponent's looks."
Ms. Marcus, from the looks of your photo, you are old enough to remember the Reagan vs. Mondale debate in which Reagan made fun of Mondale's overdone make-up job. We all laughed about it (including Mondale). We laughed then, we still laugh about it today and Reagan did get a free pass for his hilarious comment. You are grasping at straws with this silly opinion piece.

Posted by: AG52 | June 11, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

It is amazing how quick you are to attack Fiorina. Is that all you've got? You can't write a story that compares the two candidates? You don't know how to put that together? Isn't that what journalism is all about? All you can do is write about what Fiorina said about Boxer's hair off camera? Do you think anyone cares about that? Are you completely incompetent?

Posted by: pljorgenson | June 11, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, back in the reality based world (to borrow a phrase favored by Karl Rove)Barbara Boxer's re-election chances look better and better. Take a look at her futures prices on www.intrade.com, they've been moving dramatically moving upward since the results of Tuesday's primary.

Can you say, "Democrats maintain majorities in the House and Senate? I thought you could.

Posted by: dldbug | June 11, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Oh, come on, Ruth. If you can't find something more substantive to write about than THAT, don't write anything at all. A female reporter grousing about a female candidate's off-air comment about another female candidate's hair? Is that the best you can do. Focus on issues, Ruth. Your article is no less catty than Fiorina's remark.

Posted by: OhYeahBabe | June 11, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

So!? Boxers' hair IS a mess.

Let the cat fight begin. This is going to be fun. Go Carly

Posted by: ConservativeBeaner | June 11, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

and once again the feminists deny the truth- women enjoy talking about hair and clothing and fashion...we're not men.

By the way I've mocked John Edwards and John Kerry's hair for years.

Posted by: SheilaMn | June 11, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

and the author's "I was really going to say something nice about Republican women, really I was, I mean only one of them's really a nut..." talk about "Mean girls"

Posted by: SheilaMn | June 11, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

People are catty. Why make it a gender issue? And why either demonize or put a pedestal political figures? It is attitudes like yours that drive political contests from policy and principle to personality-first combats. Elevate yourself, let people off camera, be off camera, unless it is official business.

Posted by: BillRusso | June 11, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Carly the fired HP queen who outsourced American jobs and now flaps her botox lips about creating job. What a laff.

Posted by: EdSantaFe | June 11, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

and let's not forget it was Barbara Boxer who coined "the Brooks Brother Brigade" commenting on the fashion choices of consituents at town hall meetings-- but that's OK!

The author's "I was really going to say something nice about Republican women...raelly I was..only one's nut" Talk about "mean girls"

Posted by: SheilaMn | June 11, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm a guy, and Carly said exactly what I was thinking when I saw Boxer. In fact, Boxers hair was all in her face, and looked like she was getting over a hangover, but then I realized that was just her usual face. Didn't know Carly was recovering from cancer, which is why her hair was so short. That is a plus for me! As far as losing and outsourcing jobs, HP is not the only company to do that in this economy. Can you say GM, Chrysler, etc., etc. Wake up! The more women in government, the more catty comments! Deal with it!

Posted by: scifieye | June 11, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Nice, most of the comments regarding Carly Fiorina in this comment section are way more incendiary than the basis for this article. Come on liberals, what happened. You're all so mean now. Ah, that right, it's OK to bash conservatives, sorry forgot.

Posted by: daveKnows3 | June 11, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Women want it all ways; they say they want equality, but then you hear them talking in the lunch room about menopause, or their periods, and being 'hormonal'. Women can't help themselves, their bodies and socialization overrides and undermines their desire for equality.
Posted by: pamschuh9
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wow! is that you, Pam?!?

btw, Boxer was the General's BOSS. as military, he needed reminding...
a retired vet

Posted by: mloaks | June 11, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Libs are outraged at Fiorina cutting up about Boxer's hair off mike. Really? After all the comments made about Palin's hair, lipstick, dress, shoes, earrings, boobs, glasses, reading material and intellect? Comments made out loud and in print, on purpose? Grow up!

Posted by: ctmom | June 11, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Typical white person - acting stupidly.

Posted by: Neffie | June 11, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

My Mom retired early after a long career from HP when fiorina came on board fearing that fiorina would try to raid the pension fund, which i believe she did, and that she would drive HP into the ground, which she did. She also got caught using secret wiretaps and recordings of employees.

Posted by: John1263 | June 11, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

still... not running on anything they want to do or have done except grow hair.

Posted by: Geopolitics101 | June 11, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Ruth, Jerry Brown just compared Meg Whitman's campaign to Josef Goebbels.
I can't wait to see if you think that might deserve a comment, given your anger about someone's snarky remark about Boxer's hair.
If you choose not to comment, we know you've chosen sides in the 'Mean Girls junior high hair-pulling fight.'
Please don't fake outrage Ruth. You just don't want Fiorina to win, it's that simple.

Posted by: slatt321 | June 11, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I guess this is what you do when you can't find anything of substance to criticize about Fiorina. How pathetic.

Posted by: yomomma1 | June 11, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

You Kool-Aid drinkers just can’t get off race can you. I scrolled down and what I saw were stupid and ignorant remarks about race. Boxer is a clown, your inability to recognize that is a most profound statement of your own ignorance.

Posted by: jim787 | June 11, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm a guy, and Carly said exactly what I was thinking when I saw Boxer. In fact, Boxers hair was all in her face, and looked like she was getting over a hangover, but then I realized that was just her usual face. Didn't know Carly was recovering from cancer, which is why her hair was so short. That is a plus for me! As far as losing and outsourcing jobs, HP is not the only company to do that in this economy. Can you say GM, Chrysler, etc., etc. Wake up! The more women in government, the more catty comments! Deal with it!
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Fiorina almost destroyed HP when the economy was doing just fine, so that's no excuse. She was paid 12 million by the company to GO AWAY. That's quite a pro jobs, pro businees, pro free market resume.

Posted by: JoeT1 | June 11, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

all the smart money is on the right side of the table come autumn. Boxer has not got a legit leg to stand on - the state is flat broke. I'll take a business woman over a big-gov't bureaucratic woman any day... bring on the new CA girls - business smart, plenty of savvy, and plenty of support, plenty of cash and riding on the red wave that is imminent.

Posted by: patsyd | June 11, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

WHAT"S WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU. It's SENATOR BOXER. She demands to be called SENATOR!!! How dare you forget that you peasants. You peons are unworthy to utter her name. Bow before the SENATOR!!

Posted by: naughtiusmaximus | June 11, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Did Ruth Marcus call out all those who were demonizing Sarah Palin and her family since she was nominated by John McCain, including a sexist cover on Newsweek - soon to be converted into a conservative magazine since they are unable to survive solely on liberal falsehoods?

I didn't think so.

BTW, the personal attacks on Palin haven't stopped yet.

Posted by: mgoveia | June 11, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Did Ruth Marcus call out all those who were demonizing Sarah Palin and her family since she was nominated by John McCain, including a sexist cover on Newsweek - soon to be converted into a conservative magazine since they are unable to survive solely on liberal falsehoods?

I didn't think so.

BTW, the personal attacks on Palin haven't stopped yet.

Posted by: mgoveia | June 11, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Did Ruth Marcus call out all those who were demonizing Sarah Palin and her family since she was nominated by John McCain, including a sexist cover on Newsweek - soon to be converted into a conservative magazine since they are unable to survive solely on liberal falsehoods?

I didn't think so.

BTW, the personal attacks on Palin haven't stopped yet.

Posted by: mgoveia | June 11, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

all the smart money is on the right side of the table come autumn. Boxer has not got a legit leg to stand on - the state is flat broke. I'll take a business woman over a big-gov't bureaucratic woman any day... bring on the new CA girls - business smart, plenty of savvy, and plenty of support, plenty of cash and riding on the red wave that is imminent.

Posted by: patsyd | June 11, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what someone said about someone else's hair??? This kinda stuff makes the news these days??? My gosh .... I'm back in junior high school.

Posted by: playfair109

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well, let me tell you who cares

voters who respect civility care

voters who are sick of republicans constantly criticizing people

people who actually TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for their actions care

we just witnessed an umpire making a BIG mistake, and then ADMITTING he made a mistake

compare that with the actions of republicans

republicans take no responsibility for their mistakes, constantly criticize their opponents, and act like a bunch of children

you ask who cares ???

people who want their government run BY ADULTS care

so can you figure out who cares now

or do you need the November results to PROVE that we are SICK of the republicans' actions ???

Posted by: nada85484 | June 11, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

This is a female thing. Sure, edwards and Kerry joked about hair, but it was to highlight an exception. females do talk more about style than guys do.

If you're an executive and haven't gotten fired once, you're nothing special, you're not aiming high enough.

The personal insults against Fiorina, and Palin says more about the bitter posters than them. It substitutes for intelligence and thinking.

Posted by: xxbingo2001 | June 11, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I keep seeing comments about Fiorina running HP into the ground but I've yet to read a comment about our politicians, including Barbara Boxer, running the United States into the ground, financially, and otherwise. Any damage Fiorina may have done at HP is miniscule compared to the ruin brought upon our nation by the elitist, self-serving politicians in Washington D.C. who care only about winning the next election and care nothing for the citizens of this country. If you don't think Fiorina has your best interest at heart, don't vote for her. Same goes for Boxer. Stop letting these self-serving morons ruin our country.

Posted by: AG52 | June 11, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Boxer's hair is the LEAST of her problems. But I know you don't want to talk about her politics so of course you want to jump all over Carly Fiorina for making true statements about Boxer's hair. So transparent. If you think THAT is going to save Barbara Boxer, boy are you grasping at straws.

Posted by: numag | June 11, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

The Wham-Bam-Thank you Ma'am is about as elementary as you can get. It's built in a gal to mention how horrible or outdated some other gal's hair is. That isn't nearly as insulting as telling a General not to call her Ma'am. Boxer is so small minded.

Posted by: jctgal | June 11, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

The Wham-Bam-Thank you Ma'am is about as elementary as it can get. It's built in a gal to mention how horrible or outdated some other gal's hair is. That isn't nearly as insulting as telling a General not to call her Ma'am. Boxer is so small minded. Now that was the height of insults to the General

Posted by: jctgal | June 11, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

and the author's "I was really going to say something nice about Republican women, really I was, I mean only one of them's really a nut..." talk about "Mean girls"

Posted by: SheilaMn

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sharon angle wants to return to the days of prohibition, outlawing alcohol, and returning the liquor trade to illegal gangs

now that IS NUTS

those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it

perhaps you'd like to look up the organized crime commission, murder incorporated, lucky luciano, meyer lansky, bugsy Segal

you could learn why prohibition is a REALLY BAD IDEA

then you might understand why angle really IS NUTS

Posted by: nada85484 | June 11, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

The Wham-Bam-Thank you Ma'am is about as elementary as it can get. It's built in a gal to mention how horrible or outdated some other gal's hair is. That isn't nearly as insulting as telling a General not to call her Ma'am. Boxer is so small minded. Now that is the height of insults to the General

Posted by: jctgal | June 11, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

all the smart money is on the right side of the table come autumn. Boxer has not got a legit leg to stand on - the state is flat broke. I'll take a business woman over a big-gov't bureaucratic woman any day... bring on the new CA girls - business smart, plenty of savvy, and plenty of support, plenty of cash and riding on the red wave that is imminent
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Boxer is a senator, not a governor, so she isn't responsible for CA's budget mess. Fiorina may be a business woman, but the free market you repubs tout judged her wanting. She nearly wrecked a major company, cost it tens of thousands of jobs, and was paid 12 million by its board to GO AWAY. The free enterprise system says she's a failure. Why does that make her a good candidate?

Posted by: JoeT1 | June 11, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Marcus is dead wrong. Hair has been brought up in politics as long as I can remember.
The left accused Reagan of dying his hair. Jokes were made of Michael Dukakis' poofy hair. Both Clinton's hair were scruntinized and John Edwards name never surfaces without reference to his girlie hair-doo.

Too say that "hair" is sacrosant and never spoke of like race - oh wait, liberals are obsessed with race - is a joke.

Hair is only a below the belt attack when it is on a liberals head.

Posted by: LKILLEN | June 11, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Marcus is a typical hack, fawning at the feet of the anointed one in the Oval Office. She and Helen Thomas are two of a kind! Together they've raised journalism to its current ugly heights.

Posted by: nmg3rln | June 11, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

people make faux pas every day - so what!

why write about them?

now about an article on her proposed solutions to the problems the senate is facing?

Posted by: boblesch | June 11, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I always get a chuckle from all the right wingnuts ranting about those horrible papers, the Post and NYT, those godless Mao's red books without covers, and their card-carryin', gay-marryin', pinko columnists. I have to wonder why they would subject themselves to such horrors and take valuable viewing time away from Fox & Friends' Action NewsBarbie Playset.
Why pollute your mind with this liberal scum when you could be cleaning your gun, or looking forward to looking down on all the gays and liberals burning in the eternal fire of H-E-double-hockey-stick? Go read some Ayn Rand, or better yet Mein Kampf; your doctor and I are concerned about your blood pressure. :)

Posted by: DaChiefs | June 11, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Carly Fiorina just knocked herself out for the count. She's history. Good riddance before she even arrives.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | June 11, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Carly Fiorina just knocked herself out for the count. She's history. Good riddance before she even arrives.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | June 11, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Fiorini almost destroyed Hewlett-Packard and she had reporters spied on when they wrote stuff she disliked about her disastrous reign as CEO. Now she wants a go at helping the Republic Party finish off the country. No thanks.

Posted by: mongolovesheriff | June 11, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Carly Fiorina just knocked herself out for the count. She's history. Good riddance before she even arrives.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | June 11, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Carly Fiorina just knocked herself out for the count. She's history. Good riddance before she even arrives.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | June 11, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

so we are supposed to worship free enterprise capitalism because the market rewards innovation and skill and punishes poor judgment and incompetence.

OK, so when the business world punishes Fiorina for incompetence and poor judgment we are supposed to be impressed with her? why, exactly? If you value free enterprise theory, you should conclude that she's the last person you want in Congress.

Posted by: JoeT1 | June 11, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about her hair. And I think it's hillarious that Carly said it. But I do think Ms. Boxer is a self-absorbed jerk. Call me Senator, not Ma'am - I've earned it through duping the easily duped voters of California to vote for me. This woman needs to go. She's obviously below her pay grade.

Posted by: timmeh5564 | June 11, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

What a dumb article. We don't talk about Joe Bidens hair plugs? You can't get past grade school.

Posted by: tk1123 | June 11, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Carly "Short Hairs" should tell us all about the 30,000 HP workers she scuttled and how she outsourced HP jobs....
Other than that, I couldn't care less what this hypocritical hag has to say.
Posted by: EdSantaFe | June 10, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse
It probably has something to do with fat lazy Americans like you thinking they DESERVE 26.00 per hour to sweep the floors. If you’re looking to blame someone then take a look in the mirror. It’s the greed of the average American that lost you the jobs….

Posted by: askgees | June 11, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

barbara boxer has flushed california down the toilet....someone should rip her hair right out of her head.

Posted by: skipper66 | June 11, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Oh poor Babs. Can't stand the heat over her straw ridden haircut? No wonder she hates capitalism, our military, our generals who did not 'respect' her Senatorhood, and her liberal progressive leftist socialist pacifist agendas keep her in the forefront of the MSM libs and the nutters in the Dem Party. Carly is not only smarter, actually has run a good business, and will not bankrupt Ca. or the USA with her votes. The Libs have trashed conservs, Pubs, Christians for decades but can't take a shot about a lib's stupid hair. What cowards!

Posted by: phillyfanatic | June 11, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

A tempest in a teapot. In fact, this is so laughably lame as a put-down that Boxer should respond derisively, "Is that all you've got?"

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | June 11, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Ruth! I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but this isn't your decision! That's the trouble with journalists today. They think they're more important than they are!

Posted by: georges2 | June 11, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Fiorina doesn't get a pass? This is silly. I don't recall the same ire and attacks on all the "journalists" - using that term loosely - and politicians that jumped on every little issue with Sarah Palin's clothing, hair, glasses, etc. Was HuffPo chastised for staring at Palin's chest at the Belmont Stakes? I think not.

What a non-story. Go do some real reporting.

Posted by: lvtaxman | June 11, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Carly Fiorina's catty and immature comment is no surprise to me. I met her in a small-group roundtable discussion at a McCain campaign event in Florida. People had driven in the pouring rain to be there. She seemed knowledgeable on the issues, but completely uninspired with solutions to our problems -- her main thought was to give more tax breaks, etc. to big business. She also seemed very aloof, and to have NO respect or liking for people. Zero ability to connect with individuals who had driven in a storm to be with her. I would never vote for her for any elected office.

Posted by: sceptic1 | June 11, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure those involved in Californian's horrid economic mess who are sick of Boxer's voting yes on just about every tax proposal to hit the Senate and were set to vote on actual issues will now vote for her because someone said something catty about her hair!

And as for the q if this is middle school, have you ever dished the dirt with the rest of the broads, to quote Rodgers and Hart? When it's a male exercising sexual power over an intern, the talking point is that it doesn't affect the job and needs to be moved on from. When it's a snide live-mike comment, it's a macaca moment that should cost the offender a place in public service! And you wonder why the eco's in the state it's in.

Posted by: one2 | June 11, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Fiorina doesn't get a pass? This is silly. I don't recall the same ire and attacks on all the "journalists" - using that term loosely - and politicians that jumped on every little issue with Sarah Palin's clothing, hair, glasses, etc. Was HuffPo chastised for staring at Palin's chest at the Belmont Stakes? I think not.

What a non-story. Go do some real reporting.

Posted by: lvtaxman | June 11, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

How about a nod to Maine's Libby Mitchell. We are very proud of her. Has been both Speaker of the House and President of the Senate at the state level and is now poised to move into the Governor's mansion.

Posted by: pormsby | June 11, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Senator Boxer is not one of my favorites, but Ms. Fiorina really disappoints me. Politicians are elected to do people's business, not a fashion show. The longer Ms. Fiorina drags on without an apology, the more damaging it is to her campaign. Honesty is still the best policy.

Posted by: dummy4peace | June 11, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Carly needs to look in the mirror. Her own hairstyle makes her look like one of those damp rescued Pelicans.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 11, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

So, Boxer's hair is more newsworthy than the Democrat who is charged with a felony and just won the primary in SC for US Senate?

Posted by: ringmaster76120 | June 11, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Too much catnip has you in a tizzy Ruth.
What ever you say about Barbara Boxer is unimportant. Your readers do not vote in California. Boxer has assisted Obama in the attempted destruction of our beautiful country. The Lefty Senator and the Professor will get their just reward at the ballot box.

Posted by: ajaycubsun | June 11, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone noticed how much Boxer looks like Dustin Hoffman in "Tootsie"?

Posted by: smithstar4 | June 11, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone noticed how much Carly Fiorina looks like Charlie Callas?!

Posted by: Liam-still | June 11, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

@dummy4peace:

Give it a rest; must you libs (yes, you're an "independent," I'm sure) -- must you libs so predictably fall in line with whatever latest pretentious "indignation" the effete liberal media feed you?

If this is your biggest concern -- this little open-mic comment that doesn't amount to the merest fraction of the constant depraved sniping and conniving and baseless innuendo that comes incessantly from the bigoted seething foaming-at-the-mouth left -- then you are one petty, shortsighted, small-minded individual.

The bottom line: "call me senator" Boxer is an embarrassment as a legislator -- a clueless, self-important, smarmy, dipcrap hack the likes of which is tangling up our screwy bureaucracy to unprecedented levels of convoluted ineptitude.

Vote ... this smug incumbent ... the hell out.

Posted by: finsher771 | June 11, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Cary Fiorina,

The Fired Golden Parachute Girl Of The West!!!!

Posted by: Liam-still | June 11, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Marcus complains that Fiorina made a comment about Boxer's hair and then calls Nevada's Angle a "nut."

Not sure how that's okay either. Perhaps it's okay to criticize others only if you write for the WaPo.

Posted by: Jomag | June 11, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

with a gentle flip of my wrist I say;Whats up with jerry browns hair doooo,skinhead look or what..gosh..don't taze me man,is boxer that loon from calipornia the red state. Oh the broke state or is it the boxer state the enviro state leading the bankruptcy charge of the left infidelllllls

Posted by: jmounday | June 11, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I love this opinion piece as it shows the bias of the liberal media.

'Cattiness of the school cafeteria'? Gee, WaPo never commented like this when the 'Main Stream' media attacked Katherine Harris for her appearance.

Another great example of the double standard the WaPo exhibits daily.

Posted by: DixieRecht | June 11, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

what a stupid discussion ....

Women should be women ALL THE TIME...on or off camera.

Boxer's appearance IS open for discussion .... I'm certain that I'm not the only guy who laughed at John Edwards mop; or Joe Biden's embarassing hair implants....

The real problem with talking about Boxer is not referring to her as Senator...remember that, she must be addressed as Senator!!!

Posted by: Hazmat77 | June 11, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Exactly right alamo2, Fiorina was a joke at HP. She also cut her teeth at Lucent Technologies, which has been destroyed and eventually bought up by the French. Fiorina leaves a trail of failure at every turn. If Republicans want to win (and they should), it would help if they had good candidates instead of corporate flunkies.

Posted by: gvelanis | June 11, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or does Ruth look like a slightly younger (barely) Helen Thomas?

Say what you will about Boxer...just remember to preface it with "Senator", i.e. "Senator Boxer's hair is so yesterday."

Posted by: ddnfla | June 11, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Carly Fiorina fired 33,000 American workers. When she became CEO in July, 1999, HP's stock price was $52 per share, and when she left 5 1/2 years later in February, 2005, it was $21 per share—a loss of over 60% of the stock's value. During this same time period, HP competitor Dell's stock price increased from $37 to $40 per share. She was paid slightly more than twenty million dollars in severance for her failure.

Posted by: Gates9 | June 11, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

this is about boxer's dismal record not her hair. do not try to detract from her socialist record of 28 years. i have been waiting for this election since her elitest comment to that general, " don't call me ma'am i worked hard to be called senator ". really?? well barbie get ready to go and find another job. your time is up. good riddance. go carly.

Posted by: lvessi | June 11, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

whatever you want to say about Boxer, the free enterprise system that you repubs worship judged Fiorina a disaster. if a major company will pay her millions to GO AWAY because she's bad at business, why would voters want her? How can you run as a CEO with business experience if your record is failure as a CEO?

Posted by: JoeT1 | June 11, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

GMAFB. It's called filling dead air with small talk before the mike goes live. Men have to suffer at the hands of comedians with some of the same jokes about their hair (Breck Girl John Edwards, Blagoveich, Henry Waxman, not wait, he's bald, ....). For a cancer survivor, it can traumatic for either sex that has to undergo chemo to lose their hair, so cut Carly some slack on comparing doos.

Posted by: TyrONeil | June 11, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

My hair looks a lot like Barbara Boxer's or did until I recently got my short summer cut similar to Carly Fiorina's.

Posted by: kay_sieverding | June 11, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

My hair looks a lot like Barbara Boxer's or did until I recently got my short summer cut similar to Carly Fiorina's.

Posted by: kay_sieverding | June 11, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

To JoeT1: In the free enterprise private sector you can fire someone for poor performance. Not so in the public sector. It is almost impossible to get rid of an incompetant school teacher. Why is that?

Posted by: AG52 | June 11, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Poor Barbara - we wouldn't want to hurt her feelings with harsh talk now.

And Carly Fiorina "not ready for prime time"? Oh, that's right, she only ran a Fortune 500 company!!

Posted by: wes8 | June 11, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

To JoeT1: In the free enterprise private sector you can fire someone for poor performance. Not so in the public sector. It is almost impossible to get rid of an incompetant school teacher. Why is that?
______________________
fair point, but this isn't about why you can't fire a teacher you hired and then discovered to be incompetent. Why would you knowingly hire (vote for) a candidate you already know is incompetent?

Posted by: JoeT1 | June 11, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

to all you "she ran a Fortune 500 company" folks - doesn't it matter to you that she was a miserable failure at running a Fortune 500 company?

Posted by: JoeT1 | June 11, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I am sick to death of this Carly Fiorina. She is the one responsible for the "Thousands" she put out of work at Hewlett-Packard. These people put their heart and soul into the company. They even gave part of their salary back to the company to save the company and to prevent from being laid off. And still they were laid off. They were told by getting a call over the phone to so to a conference room where they received a program voice mail to say they were being laid off as though they were a piece of trash! This was a horrible day people were falling out, crying you name it. When she came to sites you were told to remain seated with her guards. Carly cares nothing about the people she hurts she only cares about padding her own pockets. Only after destroying thousands of lives HP decided to get rid of her and she walked away with thousands of dollars like a fat rat! Dave and Bill (Hewlett & Packard) were really caring people and believed in their employees. They would have ever went along with what she did to their employees I just hate they passed away. Until she came along in the history of the company they were a solid company that never laid anyone off!

Posted by: allen827711 | June 11, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I think it's HILARIOUS. I live in California and I can only hope that we can finally rid ourselves of the incumbent Boxer. She's made a mess of our State, but if the East Coast Liberals want her for a senator I'm sure she'd change her address for you. Go for it Carly!

Posted by: fxdwg2000 | June 11, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

She is thee cause of Hewlett-Packard job outsourced to India while putting US citizens out of work!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: allen827711 | June 11, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

To JoeT1: In the free enterprise private sector you can fire someone for poor performance. Not so in the public sector. It is almost impossible to get rid of an incompetant school teacher. Why is that?
______________________
fair point, but this isn't about why you can't fire a teacher you hired and then discovered to be incompetent. Why would you knowingly hire (vote for) a candidate you already know is incompetent?

___________________________________________I would never vote for someone I felt was incompetent and I don't know that Fiorina fits that description. I will admit, I do not know much about Fiorina's tenure with HP but I think it would be fair to say that she must have been successful at some points throughout her career to have been able to land the position at HP. It does not seem reasonable to conclude that she is incompetent based solely on her time at HP.

Posted by: AG52 | June 11, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

"I think it would be fair to say that she must have been successful at some points throughout her career to have been able to land the position at HP"

She rose through the ranks from the Sales department. She is great at self-promotion and "let's make a deal." Executive? Not so much. By the time her five year tenure as CEO was over, HP stock had lost 50% of its value.

Posted by: fzdybel | June 11, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

fzdybel said in reference to Carly Fiorini, "She is great at self-promotion and "let's make a deal." Executive? Not so much."

Unfortunately for us, the voting public, this is how the vast majority of politicians get voted into office.

Whether you voted for Obama or McCain in the last election, you must admit you voted for a deal-making, self-promoting individual.

Posted by: AG52 | June 11, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Carly, dear, what's up with that double chin?
It's Soooooo.......?

Posted by: farnaz_mansouri2 | June 11, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

IT IS A NON-EVENT. THE GOAL IS TO OUST ALL INCUMBENTS...LEFT,RIGHT AND OTHERWISE.THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVTS HAVE BECOME PROFLIGATES WITH TAXPAYER MONEY SO OUT, OUT, OUT.

Posted by: DANSHANTEAL1 | June 11, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

IT IS A NON-EVENT. THE GOAL IS TO OUST ALL INCUMBENTS...LEFT,RIGHT AND OTHERWISE.THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVTS HAVE BECOME PROFLIGATES WITH TAXPAYER MONEY SO OUT, OUT, OUT.

Posted by: DANSHANTEAL1 | June 11, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

So Ruth Marcus is upset about a comment on the weird hair of the ditzy Boxer who chews out a General for calling her "Ma'am"?

Oh, well, that's right, Carly is a Republican.

Wonder what Ruth had to say about Boxer's "classy" response to the General?

Posted by: hanks1 | June 11, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

ALL women are catty. Indeed, I would be surprised if both candidates didn't make highly personal and insulting remarks about each other in private on a daily basis. Fiorina just forgot to turn off the mic in a public forum so we received confirmation of the wholly expected -- actually, the mildness of Carly's put down is what is so surprising given how repulsive Boxer is on all levels.

The press should let this non-story be and just analyze why Boxer should get another term as US Senator when she has presided over the decline of CA from first to worst.

What this incident does say is that the press has picked up its water buckets early for Democratic candidates in Nov. Marcus is just another dull partisan columnist scratching the sad itch of liberal opinion.

Posted by: greg3 | June 11, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I was going to say something pretty close to that of greg3, so will compliment him on his astute observations.

Boxer and her buddies are on her way out. This post that someone sent me a link to this morning says it pretty well.
http://www.fatherlyadviceandrants.com/america-rising-an-open-letter-to-democrat-politicians.html

Posted by: ClassicCarLover | June 11, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I was going to say something pretty close to that of greg3, so will compliment him on his astute observations.

Boxer and her buddies are on their way out.

This post that someone sent me a link to this morning says it pretty well.
http://www.fatherlyadviceandrants.com/america-rising-an-open-letter-to-democrat-politicians.html

Posted by: ClassicCarLover | June 11, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Well, not exactly "so yesterday." There was the Hillary Clinton campaign, during which Secretary Clinton's hair, clothing, feelings, clothing, clothing, and clothing were derisively referred ceaselessly. I don't recall Ms. Marcus taking a stand on this, but maybe I missed it. In fact, I waited for the duration of the campaign for someone to defend Clinton from the sexist trash she endured since she couldn't defend herself without seeming to whine. Never happened.

Posted by: rebglass | June 11, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Put a (D) next to Ms. Fiorina's name, and watch these same critics whistle past the graveyard. Non-story as far as most people are concerned, just the dinosaur media attempting to save Ms. Boxer's job. These are not the droids you're looking for... move along, move along.

Posted by: jpmzo | June 11, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

@ ancient_marine

"Hair comments? Who cares?"

We agree.

While at Hewlett Packard, Fiorina destroyed 30,000 good American jobs. That's what disqualifies her from becoming a US Senator, not some offhand remark about Barbara Boxer's hair.

I don't know who fed you that distorted version of the truth, but I would never use them as a source of information again. Let us speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

• Fiorina fired 30,000 people.

• She saved the organization at a time when a lot of companies didn't make it, saving all the rest of the jobs at HP.

• Net net, Carly Fiorina created jobs at HP.

The strength of the capitalist system is the engine of its growth: creative destruction. The inefficient must give way to the efficient, or many more jobs will be lost than can ever be temporarily be "saved." Whole companies go out of business all the time. Other companies survive and prosper, even in adversity. A great many folks who work for the latter, those who make the cut, still have their jobs. The folks at the companies where nobody who should have been fired to preserve the jobs of all the rest end up losing their jobs because of poor, cowardly, short-sighted management.

As it so often is for actual human beings like all of us who make these comments, life for corporations can be solitary, nasty, brutish and short. Managers can act with real compassion, intelligence and fearlessness to save the vast majority of jobs by eliminating anti-competitive inefficiency and redundancy, or they can fail to act, and doom all of the employees, not to mention stockholders.

Posted by: neopatetic | June 11, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Making fun of another person's hair is something that we could expect from a mean, jealous junior high or high school girl--not an adult. Maybe Carly Fiorina's problem is that she feels inferior to Boxer, so in order to make up for her own inadequacies and insecurities, she feels she has to make fun of Boxer's hair. How petty!

How would she feel if Boxer made fun of her last name by calling her Ms. Inferiority or Infiorina?

Posted by: fridaolay | June 11, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

To IUT1:

Barbara Boxer hasn't gotten "her panties in a bunch" about Carly Fiorina's catty, stupid, immature snipe. As Boxer's campaign representative said yesterday, "Carly can talk about hair if she wants. We're going to talk about jobs."

And what's wrong with Boxer's hair, anyway? I think it looks just fine. (As if it even matters.)

Posted by: marcywrite | June 11, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

To IUT1:

Barbara Boxer hasn't gotten "her panties in a bunch" about Carly Fiorina's catty, stupid, immature snipe. As Boxer's campaign representative said yesterday, "Carly can talk about hair if she wants. We're going to talk about jobs."

And what's wrong with Boxer's hair, anyway? I think it looks just fine. (As if it even matters.)

Posted by: marcywrite | June 11, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

To patsyd:

Your comment illustrates your utter ignorance of the political process. Sen. Boxer represents California in the U.S. Senate. She has nothing to do with STATE politics or the STATE budget.

Good grief. LEARN something before spouting off, would you please? You embarrass women who actually CAN think logically.

Posted by: marcywrite | June 11, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

So Fiorina can only find fault with Barbara Boxer's hair? That's the depth of her intellectual curiosity? The day after winning her party's nomination, Boxer's hair is the issue that was rattling around Fiorina's head prior to her on-camera interview? OMG! Fiorina knows we all want a United States Senator that looks good and is stylish. That's the most important thing to us! (Intelligence is optional). Can't blame this on Fiorina, though. The Republican Party has annoited Sarah Palin as the new political woman prototype. Every woman better keep up in the looks department or the Mean Girls will come after you on live television.

Posted by: mawheelz | June 11, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

@ marcywrite

"To patsyd:

Your comment illustrates your utter ignorance of the political process. Sen. Boxer represents California in the U.S. Senate. She has nothing to do with STATE politics or the STATE budget."

That is erroneous: although Senator Boxer clearly has no direct role in the California legislature's law-making, that hardly means "She has nothing to do with STATE politics or the STATE budget." She does.

Senator Robert Byrd, D-WV and dean of the Senate, has worked assiduously for decades to move as much of the Federal government to his state as possible. Senators virtually all and always try to win Federal spending for their States. Senator Boxer has not been all that successful in doing so, despite the fact that her political philosophy certainly puts her in the 'Tax and Spend' camp.

Also, Senator Boxer is and has been an important part of and a power broker within California's very left-of-center Democrat Party power structure for many years. That power structure has promulgated many of the policies, laws and deals that are bankrupting both the State and the United States.

"Good grief. LEARN something before spouting off, would you please?"

Your personal attack is based on too little evidence to support your contention, and is therefore illogical and unwarranted, in addition to being rude and abusive.

"You embarrass women who actually CAN think logically."

Physician, heal thyself.

Oh, and please don't SHOUT.

Posted by: neopatetic | June 12, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Barbara Boxer's hair is just the tip of the iceberg. Barbara Boxer is all that is wrong with our politicians. She's ELITIST, ARROGANT, HYPOCRYTICAL, NASTY AND SO VERY IN YOUR FACE. ALL THOSE YEARS OF HER BEING IN THE SENATE HAVE ONLY MADE HER UNCARING ABOUT HER CONSTITUTENTS. HOPEFULY THE GOOD PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA WILL VOTE HER OUT. THEN HER ARROGANCE WILL FIND IT'S JUST REWARD.

Posted by: barrysal | June 12, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

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