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David Cameron panders to Turkey -- at Israel's expense

Western leaders have been puzzling over how to respond to the Turkish government of Recep Tayyip Erdogan, which in recent months has abandoned its former policy of seeking integration with Europe and begun seeking to establish itself as an Islamic power -- with cosy relations with Iran and Syria.

On Tuesday Britain's new prime minister, David Cameron, tried shameless pandering. In a speech delivered in Ankara, Cameron first denounced European opponents of Turkey's membership in the European Union, saying they were motivated by protectionism or prejudice against Islam.

But Erdogan lost interest in the E.U. some time ago. So Cameron embraced the Turkish leader's new favorite subject: the evils of Israel.

"The Israeli attack on the Gaza flotilla was completely unacceptable," Cameron said. Then he added: "Gaza cannot and must not be allowed to remain a prison camp."

A prison camp? Israel's enemies are fond of using that term, with its implicit hint that the Jewish state has adopted the policies of Nazi Germany. But according to the BBC, no British prime minister has ever spoken so harshly of Israel's handling of Gaza.

Asked about it later, Cameron protested that he was only repeating what he had said in a House of Commons debate several weeks ago. But the Guardian checked: in that instance, the prime minister referred to Gaza as "a giant open prison," not a prison camp.

Erdogan, of course, was delighted to have Cameron join his anti-Israel campaign. His Islamist ruling party encouraged the Turkish ferry whose attempt to break Israel's sea blockade of Gaza at the end of May led to a clash in which nine Turks -- all of them members or supporters of a militant Islamic "charity" -- died. Since then Erdogan has been using the incident in a bid to compete with Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Hezbollah's Hassan Nasrallah for leadership of the Middle East's Israel-hating "street."

Standing alongside Cameron, Erdogan compared Israel to the "pirates of Somalia" and added that people in Gaza "are living under constant attacks and pressure in an open air prison." That was fairly mild stuff for the Turkish PM, who regularly accuses Israel of "state terrorism" and last month called it an "adolescent, rootless state."

If Cameron was troubled by such rhetoric, or by Turkey's role in the ferry incident, he gave no indication of it. Instead he proclaimed that "when I think about what Turkey has done to defend Europe as a NATO ally... it makes me angry that your progress toward E.U. membership can be frustrated in the way it has been."

That may win the new British government some points in Ankara. But the price will be paid by Israel, which has just seen the international campaign to delegitimize it gain a little more momentum.

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Diehl panders to Israel...at US expense.

Posted by: FloydThirsby | July 27, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

"But the price will be paid by Israel, which has just seen the international campaign to delegitimize it gain a little more momentum."

Israel's actions are the cause of its increasing isolation and lack of legitimacy. Stomping your and its feet whenever Israel is criticized is a failed strategy. Too many innocent people have died for the status quo to have any legitimacy at all.

Personally, I support a single, secular state with equal rights and protections for all religions and ethnicities in Palestine. It is also what I support for the US, Nigeria and everywhere else. But if the Palestinians and Israeli Jews come to some different solution they are all happy with, that is fine by me.

But the current conflict, with a pretense of two ethnic states masking the reality of Israeli control over a subject Palestinian people is unjust and illegitimate. Just as apartheid South Africa's control over its black population, internally and in the semi autonomous Bantustans was illegitimate.

David Cameron is not the problem. You and the Israeli government are.

Posted by: dehall | July 27, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Our government must not only ignore Apartheid Israel, we should distance ourselves as much as possible from the racist Jewish regime. Our support for the Apartheid Israel has done nothing but to endanger our nation and destroy our ties with the world. It is time that we stopped defending Israel and started putting American interests first by extending a hand of friendship to Iran and work to rebuild the once great relationship between our two nations. Unlike Israel, Iran is a nation who has never attacked anyone, has not ever invaded anyone and is pivotal to our achieving lasting success in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Israeli regime would like nothing more than to destroy that relationship as peace is antithesis of Zionism, and without continued war and violence to use as cover for its campaign of ethnic cleansing, Israel would be quickly exposed as the despicable racist country run by Judeofascist religious extremists that it is.

Who knows, we might even get back a congress that is 100% loyal to our own country for a change. You know, one that's not constantly "pandering" to Israel.

Posted by: ardestani | July 27, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

The wretched history of oppression, discrimination, and slaughter of Diaspora Jews, and the rise of overt anti-Semitism around the world, are not caused by the actions of the Israeli government in Gaza. They are the tragic realities of Jewish history. Because of these realities, the Jewish people must have a homeland in their own homeland. A "one-state solution," such as that proposed by "dehall," would not provide such a homeland for the Jews, because they would be immediately outnumbered by the Palestinians and lose their sovereignty. I support a two-state solution, and so does the majority of the Israeli population, provided the two sides can reach an agreement that assures Israeli security. The current government in Israel is not one I support, but Israel is not to blame for the suffering of the Gazans. The people of Gaza voted to empower Hamas, which is committed to the destruction of Israel and would be far more able to accomplish its goal if not for Israeli self-defensive measures, such as the blockade. David Cameron knows all this, which makes his comments shameful and despicable, and will only deepen the conviction of the people of Israel that the world is against them.

Posted by: mg81992 | July 27, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

After the author referred to Turkey as establishing itself as an "Islamic power", there was no further need to read on. As the rest would just be mindless rants of a mad man.

Posted by: wlockhar | July 27, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Yes, the UK is pandering to Turkey. But please allow me to be frank: Israel itself has pandered to Turkey for a long time.

How so? One way is by shamelessly and hypocritically working with Turkey - alongside some of the top-level Jewish American lobbying groups such as the ADL, AJC, and JINSA (explore www.NoPlaceForDenial.com for all the details that you deliberately never reported) - to deny the Armenian genocide and push Congress to not recognize the Armenian genocide. This was holocaust hypocrisy of the first order, and many principled Jews and Israelis have rightly condemned it. Also pandering to Turkey have been the American mass media who insisted that Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan was a "moderate." It was always clear from his record that he was not a moderate. Please see this article about Erdogan by Brown University's Andrew Bostom
("Erdogan has a Judeophobic and Nazi-Like Background"):
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2010/06/erdogan-has-judeophobic-nazi-like.html

And this article by Rachel Sharon-Krespin:
http://www.meforum.org/2045/fethullah-gulens-grand-ambition

America's mainstream media have always groveled before Turkey. The UK is merely following that lead.

Posted by: Michael86 | July 27, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I agree completely with Mr. Diehl's thoughtful and honest comments. Mr. Cameron is clearly pandering to Turkey as well as Muslim interests. There is a growing and increasingly powerful Muslim population in England and in Europe in general, and these people vote. "Muhummad" is one of the most popular baby boy's names in London, and this trend will most likely continue.

What we are witnessing is the increasing Islamization of Europe.

I wonder what position Mr. Cameron had taken when he was running for office. Did he have an obvious anti Israel bias? Seems he does now.

Hamas fired thousands of rockets into Israel before she launched operation Cast Lead. I recall no protests from the British government. Not one peep. Dead or injured Jews are OK, I guess. In Mr. Cameron's view, the Jewish people should just role over and accept that it is their fate to be bombed by Arab criminals. And Israel is not allowed to defend herself or her people. That is the fate of Jewish people in Mr. Cameron's eyes.

The Jews of Europe are in trouble. I hope that they are able to escape to Israel and/or the US before it is too late.

Posted by: Jackstfu | July 27, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

The donmeh are no longer in control of Turkey.

Posted by: usnr02 | July 27, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Diehl is absolutely right. What we are seeing is the increasing Islamization of Europe. Cameron is not only appeasing Turkey, but pandering to Muslim interests in Europe. And the Muslim population is growing.

If the British government were truly intereted in peace and justice, it would have screamed loud and clear when Hamas fired 3000 rockets into Israel. Instead, the British government was upset when Israel defended itself.

Seems in the mind of Mr. Cameron the only good Jew is an obedient one that rolls over when attacked.

I wonder if Mr. Cameron's obvious anti Israel and anti Jewish bias was known when he was running for office.

Posted by: Jackstfu | July 27, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Thank God the world is waking up to the fact that the state of Israel through it's actions become a terrorist nation. I applaud any leader who calls for the moderation of the State of Israel. I also accept the State of Israel's right to exist, but the same right clamed by that government needs to be extended to the Palestinian people whose ansestors also have a valid claim to the that region of the world.

Posted by: lairb7 | July 27, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Diehl, I wouldn't worry. Cyprus, half of which has been occupied by Turkey for forty years, following the Cypriot genocide has found an ally in Israel. Hopefully, this will stave off the roiling anger in Cyprus, as the Turkish elephant seeks to trample the Cypriots into the ground.

The US continues to support Turkey, but this will change. The Pope, when he was there a few weeks ago, was confronted by tens of thousands of Christian demonstrators. He urged Christians of the region to band together.

This is a strategy that should be followed by Christians of the MIddle East and Asia. If Jews had done this, we might not have wound up three million in exile.

Or, at least, we would have gone down fighting.

Posted by: farnaz_mansouri2 | July 27, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I never understood why we pandered to Jews because we are "Christian nation." If you don't accept Christ as your Saviour, you're going to hell, whether you're Jewish, Persian, or Albanian. The Jewish "Chosen people" status was fulfilled when Christ came to earth as a Jew to save all mankind. I don't believe that it was perpetual status that entitled them to anything more than what a Gentile is entitled to.

Posted by: nsu1203 | July 27, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Diehl,

Another thing: I'm assuming you have read about the possible boycott of Great Britain. A miserable, imperialist, racist nation. The boycott is long overdue.

Posted by: farnaz_mansouri2 | July 27, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

You want to help the Palestinians? Really? Then encourage them to give up violence and focus on building a peaceful state. The anti-semites who seem to think that Israel is just going to go away. It's not going anywhere. Israel will continue to protect itself, and has proven that it can do so. By promoting violence against Jews and Israel you are prolonging the suffering of the Palestinian people. The only solution to the conflict is the two state solution, and that isn't going to happen without Israel's participation. As long as the chief focus of the Palestinian population is violence against Israel there will be no end to their suffering.

Posted by: DrMike2 | July 27, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Diehl, a descredited neocon Israeli, wrote that "Israel's enemies are fond" of calling Gaza "a prison camp?"!! As mr. Diehl knows, the vast majority of the PEOPLE around the world consider Gaza as a huge concentration camp. Thus, most of the world is considered by the rogue state of Israel as ENEMIES!!! The very few "friends" Israel still has, like the UK's PM Cameron, see Gaza as "a prison camp". In other words, Israel is seen by people like Diehl and Netanyahu as a "victim" and the WHOLE world is wrong to call Israel a brutal military occupier of Palestine and the Palestinians!!! In fact, the respected South African Judge Goldstone, a Jew, accused Israel last year of committing war crimes against the Palestinian people of Gaza!

Posted by: editor4tonio | July 27, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse


Cameron Pasha Goes Bananas, Turkey, Obama

Another newly-baked Islamist, British Prime Minister David Cameron suddenly appeared.

Hardly five minutes in power, Cameron had already made a series of anti-Israel speeches.

Cameron went a complete turkey attacking viciously Jewish state as well as attacking the European Union.

Europe is undergoing a serious political and economic crisis and to increase its troubles it should, according to a crazy Brit, add an Islamic country led by an insane Islamist Erdogan-Yatagan.

What food was Cameron served in Ankara; probably the same Obama was getting in Cairo.

Posted by: m-epstein | July 27, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Diehl - please move to Gaza. You will be one less American whose social security I'll have to pay. Thank you, and good luck!

Posted by: jap219 | July 27, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Netanyahu: "America is Easy to Push Around"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6KLFrye9Xk&feature=related

Posted by: Supertzar | July 27, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

The Brits tried to appease the Nazis and now they are trying to appease the Muslims with devastating consequences to follow at the cost of innocent lives (when Muslims take over).

They should read Wafa Sultan's (a Muslim) new book called A God Who Hates to understand the inherent intolerant and violent nature of Islam.

Posted by: gerrymansingh | July 27, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

But, but, but what about Israel's ace in the hole- the U.S.A?

Posted by: moebius22 | July 27, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Ironic how people use language like "concentration camp" and "prison" so readily. Gazans VOTED for a govt whose SINGLE core principle is the elimination of Israel and the replacement of it with an Islamic state. Gazans voted for confrontation, got it and now don't like where it got them. Compare it to the West Bank where they didn't vote that way.

Turkey is quickly moving towards an Islamic state, away from its secular history (ask the Orthodox church how its going for them in Turkey these days). Its also continuing its fight against the Kurds, and a lot more Kurds have died at Turkish hands than Palestinians at Israeli hands.

Funny how the world, in pandering to Turkey can't seem to get their hands around the Kurdish issue. And don't even mention the Armenian issue from a century ago.

Pander to Turkey. That'll help nothing.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 27, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Turkey has been a NATO ally since the Korean War. Pelosi's Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Representatives condemned Turkey last March for an event almost 100 years ago. This insane action gave Turkey an excellent opportunity to change their foreign policy.

Turkey was lucky the EU gave them a cold shoulder. They are gleeful Greece went belly-up and the Euro is tanking. If they had been allowed to join the European Union they would be in big trouble now.

Posted by: alance | July 27, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I used to be highly critical of Israel and rather feverish in outrage about the treatment of the Palestinians.

Watching the Palestinian, Lebanese, and Syrian leadership in the past decade has almost entirely switched my views towards sympathy with Israel.

As I see it, the problem is that Palestinians are not negotiating with Israel. Worse, Palestinians are being used by neighbors who have political goals in the region inconsistent with Palestinian autonomy. Palestinians are not proposing solutions, but rather are being actively martyred by their so-called "friends." "Friends" which, of course, won't allow the Palestinian immigrants in their borders.

While no angel, Israel has currently agreed to halt settlements until September and extended a hand to engage in direct talks with Abbas.

Everyone -- Pro-Israel, Pro-Palestinian, those rare "neutral" watchers -- needs to cross fingers and hope Abbas actually agrees. We need to hope he doesn't dismiss the Good because it isn't Perfect.

There is no reason why this conflict need continue for another decade. Palestinians need to take whatever land they can and establish a stable rule of law, normal lives, and normal trade with the world. Israelis need to encourage that independent stability with respect and distance.

A healthy Palestinian state will make the indirect conflicts with Lebanon and Syria direct; while not particularly welcome news, it is better than an unending cold war that undermines both Palestinian security and Israeli legitimacy.

Posted by: ledirigible | July 27, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Does it really matter what Cameron says regarding Israel ?Britain has always flirted with the Islamic countries out of an apparent illusion that it was an important part of its progressive outlook.There are also substantial sections of the British society that revel in anti-Semitism.Today however Britain is not even a second rate power.And Cameron is one of the weakest prime ministers the country has ever had.No wonder he is sucking up to Turkey for economic benefits.

Posted by: vismorge | July 27, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

It must be nice to be English and have fully adult leadership.

But no matter how one tries to spin it, the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians has been unacceptable from the start, actually before 1947. England bears significant responsibility for what happened then and for what has transpired since. Cameron's crocodile tears hardly suffice as atonement. Perhaps the Israelis will show him the real thing next Yom Kippur.

In the interim someone should do something to aid the suffering Arabs in Gaza.

Posted by: mini2 | July 27, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

If Gaza is a prison camp Hamas is the warden not Israel.

Turkey and the new British Prime Minister can blame Israel all it wants for the condition of Gaza but the reality is that Gaza is kept in it's open air prison by it's own democratic government ruled by Hamas. You see rockets are more important than food, shelter and education as far as Hamas is concerned. It is the government of Hamas that denys it people it's needs while spending all aid on rockets then launching them in order to inflict more suffering on it's peoples in order to elcit sympathy from the rest of the world.

Hamas created and enforces the prison camp of Gaza and the new British Prime Minister sounds like a fool when he points the finger at Israel.

Posted by: rannrann | July 27, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

let me explain something to you jackson -- david cameron is acting in HIS country's best interests. see, you're used to u.s. administration after administration doing what's in ISRAEL's best interests.

when are your pals going to come clean about the u.s.s. liberty?

Posted by: mycomment | July 27, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Diehl,
Perhaps your thoughts would have more impact if you were not so singular in your support of all things Isreal. You never acknowledge the damage Isreal causes it's neighbors and the humiliation they impose on Palestine. You and other Zionists need to understand that when you treat people like dogs they will learn to bite.

Posted by: mdenny1 | July 27, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Cameron made strong anti Israeli pro Hezzbolah statements during the war with Lebanon a few years. His favourite accusations against Israel are that it uses "disproportionate force." This implies that Israel "is not allowed to defend it's people." He is no friend of Israel but a hypocrite. Britain has committed war crimes in Afghanistan and released Libyan terrorists for business deals.

Posted by: semsem | July 27, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I don't see that Cameron said anything inaccurate.
But Diehl can give himself a pat on the back for running his AIPAC talking points.

Posted by: stanwood1 | July 27, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

There's a judgment implicit in this column that "at Israel's expense" is a bad thing. A question for Diehl might be when America will finally stop pretending that Israelis are the only people in the Middle East with interests worth defending.

Posted by: jeffwacker | July 27, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

When's the last time you went to Gaza, big guy?

Posted by: tsicby | July 27, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

If possible, the Jewish interests that control the Washington Post are even more fanatical in their defense of Israel than those who manage the New York Times. I think all that most Americans ask for is at least the illusion of objectivity.

Posted by: socaloralpleazer | July 27, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

What? Cameron is not an instrument of the Zoinistas or AIPAC? How refreshing. Not too many leaders around the world are willing to speak the truth "bluntly" as you put it. Maybe we would have peace and not be constantly looking for terrorists over our shoulders if our leaders were not puppets of Isreal.

Posted by: yard80197 | July 27, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Cameron speaks the truth, unlike Jackasson Diehl, who is just one of the WaPo's stable of zionist hacks.

Posted by: googleguy | July 27, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

"You and other Zionists need to understand that when you treat people like dogs they will learn to bite."

Posted by: mdenny1 | July 27, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

The Palestinians are being used by other countries that would profit from an insurrection. Most Palestinians I've met are hard-working, down to earth people that want stability and a chance to hold onto something concrete in the world. Many are as unhappy with their own (West Bank) leadership as they are with Israeli hypocrisy.

Compare: Israel investigates its uses of force against Palestinians, and tries to account for the grievous injuries it inflicts. Hamas has yet to "accuse" a SINGLE official for using hospitals and schools to launch attacks -- basically guaranteeing injury to disproportionate civilians. Israel indicates that it cares more for accountability to Palestinian loss of life than Hamas itself does.

Or compare with Lebanon. Palestinian refugees in Lebanon lack many basic rights, including the ability to work or own land. They have no provisional government representation, unlike Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. Human Rights groups have repeatedly chastised Lebanon. So why doesn't the world encourage Lebanese Palestinians to "bite back?"

To make this a "Zionist v. Arab" or "Israel v. Palestinian" scenario is disingenuous. The truth is none of Israel's neighbors (bar Jordan) have helped Palestinians; they've merely wanted to profit off of Palestinian suffering and, ultimately, eliminate "Zionist" Israel.

Go ahead and believe other propaganda. When history looks back, they will see a conflict that wasn't necessary. All we need to do is stop telling everyone how bad the other side is and actually start building something new.

Posted by: ledirigible | July 27, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Caaling out all the racists, and at this Liberal hell whole, that would be the motherload. Cameron is just another fool.

Posted by: skscottkeyes | July 27, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Obviously Cameron has two standards - one for the British Isles and one for Israel. If the IRA started rocketing England, or better yet, the Scots decided to rain missile fire into English towns, what would the British government do? What would Cameron think if the Israeli PM decided to call Scotland an open prison because the English blockaded it in response to the rocket attacks?

If Hamas would stop its overt and covert war against Israel (no doubt at the commands of its puppet-masters in Iran), perhaps the blockade could be lifted, but Israel is in a de-facto state of war with Iran and its proxies - and I'm afraid sooner or later (probably sooner), the shooting will start once again.

There is no "peace" in the middle east and I do not think there ever will be given the mentality of the participants. The best you can hope for is the absence of hostilities - a cold peace if you will. Turkey was no innocent bystander in the flotilla fiasco. They knew what the IHH was up to and their PM "played" Israel to a tee, and then screamed bloody-murder when the IHH plan to confront the Israeli blockade turned out like they thought it would all along. At a minimum, Turkey was complicit in this flotilla fiasco and it brings into question what that ruling party is really up to - I think realignment away from the west and towards Islam.

To see a western leader groveling up to Turkey (who supported IRAN in the UN sanctions debate) is depressing and embarrassing - almost as embarrassing as calling Pakistan a "US ally".

Posted by: deacon777 | July 27, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Cameron saw the light...Finally.

Posted by: wrock76taolcom | July 27, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

The jewish state is not popular in Turkey. But neither is United States. I don't think the U.K. PM is about to mention that. But if you are going to say anything you say something that the other country wants to hear other wise they ask you to leave and don't come back.

Posted by: artg | July 27, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

"But the Guardian checked: in that instance, the prime minister referred to Gaza as "a giant open prison," not a prison camp."

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Talk about a distinction without a difference. Diehl insults the readers' intelligence once again.

Posted by: lostinthemiddle | July 27, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Cyprus is also hinted here: "when I think about what Turkey has done to defend Europe as a NATO ally... it makes me angry that your progress toward E.U. membership can be frustrated in the way it has been."
So, a bloody invasion implementing ethnic cleansinng, rape of 800 women, destruction of invaluable historical heritage, settlement of more than 200 thousand Turks from Turkey ...an immense demographic change, thus an ecological catastrophe means nothing to Mr. Cameron! he is ANGRY that the fascist, racist regime of Turkey is not a member of the EU.
What happened to Europe of human rights Mr. Cameron?
Give me a brake ...

Posted by: FGenas | July 27, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I should mention that the British win no prizes for there own behaviour as they promise the Armenians there own country during WWI. You can see where that got the Armenians.

That was in Turkey. But British also was selling opium in China. Which was another good deed amoung others that the British have done. If on the other hand United States had under British rule we would be a small second rate country. One should ignore some speeches that come out of this PM mouth as they are not all those in favor of the United States. But we will hear more about that in the future.

Posted by: artg | July 27, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Diehl is wrong about Israel: Gaza IS a prison; the assault on the ferries was piracy on the high seas; the killings during the assault were murder. Diehl aside, Israel's actions towards the Palestinians, and the US's tolerance of them, are criminal. In that Cameron is correct, but he should acknowledge that it is one of Britain's many gifts to the world.

Cameron, however, is wrong about Turkey. The EU has been supporting Turkey which has responded with an endless supply of migrants, and has graciously acted as a transfer location for illegal immigrants into the EU. Turkey makes our border with Mexico look impregnable. Not to mention that whenever we have asked for tangible help from Turkey, we got the back of their hand. But that behavior is standard for Turkey, and supporting Turkey is standard policy for Britain.

So, we have Cameron bending over as the Brits usually do to the Turks; and Diehl bending over as our so-called intelligentsia has been doing for decades now to the Israelis.

It is all in character.

Posted by: AMviennaVA | July 27, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Screw Turkey and screw Israel. We should let them duke it out between themselves. We have problems at home that need to be addressed.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | July 27, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Diel appeared to have make a rare concession. He seemed to have no problem with Cameron calling Gaza "a giant open prison," and only objected to him referring to it as "a prison camp". I agree, there's a huge difference between "a giant open prison" and "a prison camp"!!!

Mr. Diel obviously is reminiscing over the good old days of Bush's lapdog Tony Blair, who could now do his dirty work only in the background.

Posted by: KT11 | July 27, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how much the Author was paid by the Israili lobby to write this load of BS, why is it the rest of the world can see what is happening in Gaza, yet all the blinkered Zionists cannot, the reason the Middle East is in the state it is in is only because of Zionists and their entrenched views not through some sort of anti-semetism but the way israel has treated its own Arabs and also the treatment of Gaza.

Posted by: rlbradley | July 27, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

So Zionist Coolie writers has a new enemy : David Cameron!!

PS: Saying that "Gaza is a prison camp" is not a crime against humanity.

Posted by: CasteMonitor | July 27, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Ironic how people use language like "concentration camp" and "prison" so readily. Gazans VOTED for a govt whose SINGLE core principle is the elimination of Israel and the replacement of it with an Islamic state.
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As with every article/post covering Israel the usual suspects here could care less if Hamas wants to or succeeds in exterminating Israel and its people.

Posted by: bbface21 | July 27, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

There should be disclosure in journalism as to what are the affiliations of the writer to ISRAEL. IS HE GAURANTEED to have a automatic citizenship and land to build a American taxpayer funded villa by uprooting a palestinian family. How much does he contribute to AIPAC and otehr Jewish organizations. Telling the way it is is not PANDERINg. You want to see pandering it should be evident from LARGESSE in TRILLIONs that American taxpayer are forced to pay over the years by US politicians. ISRAEL without American BLOOD and MONEY is basket case just like ETHIOPIA. It is the Americans who are paying the price for the SINS of ISRAELI human rights violators and WAR CRIMINALS read JUDGE GOLDSTONE(he is of JEWISH descent)

Posted by: khafeez1 | July 27, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"The wretched history of oppression, discrimination, and slaughter of Diaspora Jews, and the rise of overt anti-Semitism around the world, are not caused by the actions of the Israeli government in Gaza. They are the tragic realities of Jewish history. Because of these realities, the Jewish people must have a homeland in their own homeland..."

So let us do to them as they did to us... Let us kick people from their homes, so that we have one. Brilliant!!!

Posted by: kfors | July 27, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Diehl,
U are a false witness par excellence.And U should be ashamed of yourself.

In occupied Jerusalem, the west bank and the rest of Arab historic Palestine there is a de fcato jewish Apartheid Regime imposed on the occupied Palestinian People for past 62 years.

Gaza is an Aushwitiz # 2. And if u can not see that then U should your eye signt and have a deep check up of your soul.

Your isrl is and has always been an absolute evil:it is a racist, apartheid,billegernt,occupying jewish ethno-religous amalgam of murderers, assasains,terrorists,ethnic clenasers and high seas pirates.

These are unequivocal facts.

Posted by: asizk | July 27, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

The British government particularly the new Prime Minister David Cameron has to support Turkey at this time . Mr. Cameron does not watch for and work under pressure of influential Jewish lobbyists and necons . The Israel's attack on boats carrying aid supplies for Palestinians in Gaza was condemned by almost every civilized nation around the globe . The three million Palestinians living in sub human conditions , and a jail like land strip of Gaza have been suffering for forty years . The Israelis actions would and has jeopardized historical relationship between Israel and Turkey . That would benefit Iran in the future . The British has to be concerned about all these big issues with implications for peace in the Middle East . The current right wing extremist prime minister of Israel has no respect for the International laws and agreements . He has spent his life time opposing all Palestinian rights . Prime Minister David Cameron has to stand with Turkey , a very influential country in the region and the 57 member of the organization of Islamic countries .

Posted by: dmfarooq | July 27, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I was cool to Cameron at first, but anyone who can get blood of these AIPAC/Likud hacks at the Post boiling like this is my kind of guy.

Posted by: hoos3014 | July 27, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

"Gazans VOTED for a govt whose SINGLE core principle is the elimination of Israel and the replacement of it with an Islamic state."
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In fact, Hamas won the vote because 1) they provided necessary services otherwise unavailable, 2) the Palestinians were angry with the Israelis, for good reason, 3) they had, for the first time, an unimpeded election which allowed them to express their desires.
There are, undoubtedly, other reasons which a reader of the US press is unlikely to know.

As to the destruction of Israel, having lived in the US of A (if I am not mistaken), you recognize political rhetoric, empty as a Gazan's purse. Who believes that the threat to extirpate Israel is possible of accomplishment while Uncle Sam stands by as a second to that nation?

Posted by: mini2 | July 27, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Ironic how people use language like "concentration camp" and "prison" so readily. Gazans VOTED for a govt whose SINGLE core principle is the elimination of Israel and the replacement of it with an Islamic state.
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As with every article/post covering Israel the usual suspects here could care less if Hamas wants to or succeeds in exterminating Israel and its people.

Posted by: bbface21

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A reading of the Hamas charter should answer the questions about what they want.

Not sure why you think the core values of Gaza's ruling party, which solidified their hold on govt after murdering their opponents following the elections a few years ago, is irrelevant.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 27, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Diehl,
I challenge u to go to Aushwitz # 2 and stay there for one week only;to feel the endless pain, suffering and agony of the imprisoned 1.5 million Paestinian refugees,u should enter Gaza crawling thru one the dark tunnels.Then come back and reort your expeience to your masters at AIPAC.

Posted by: asizk | July 27, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Well, the Tories have never been very good when it comes to Israel. I think down deep they resent ex-colonies having become independent (remember, Palestine was once a British 'protectorate'). But, my greatest concern is over what has been happening in Turkey. I lived and taught in Turkey for five years in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Modern Turkey has a progressive, modernist tradition and the military three times resisted attempts to stir up Islamic passions by so-called secular political parties (in 1960, in 1971, and in 1980). They generally will reject all forms of extremism but, in particular, they don't want parties trying to go backward by evoking symbolism from the country's Islamic, colonialist past (the Ottoman Empire). On all three occasions, these conservative (neo-religious) parties did it in order to shore up political support in the face of economic hardships and dissatisfaction in the country. And on all three occasions, the military intervened. For them (the military), it was unacceptable to use religion to build political support especially in difficult economic times (since these political parties would use religious passion to overcome political opposition). It is part of the Turkish political 'view of the world'. Therefore, what we are seeing now from Erdogan and his Justice & Development Party (AK) has been seen before. I think Erdogan is 'playing with fire', so to speak. While claiming he is maintaining 'independence' for Turkey by reaching out to Iran and selectively to nearby Arab states (notice that he doesn't reach out to Egypt, the largest Arab country), he is alienating his country's position with respect to the United States, to Germany, to NATO in general if not also to the U.K. (in spite of what Cameron says). That's a very dangerous strategy that he is taking. I am sure he understands the consequences of continuing on his path of rejecting European modernism and the 'West'. He's a very smart man, but there are limits to what he is trying to do.

Posted by: NL_from_Houston | July 27, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

And YOU, Mr. AUTHOR, are pandering to Israel, at US - and the rest of the world's expense! defending the usurpers of Palestinian land and the murderers of Palestinian children, at the expense of human consciousness! So typical! Shame on you!

Posted by: genevieve2000 | July 27, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

As with every article/post covering Israel the usual suspects here could care less if Hamas wants to or succeeds in exterminating Israel and its people.

Posted by: bbface21

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A reading of the Hamas charter should answer the questions about what they want.

Not sure why you think the core values of Gaza's ruling party, which solidified their hold on govt after murdering their opponents following the elections a few years ago, is irrelevant.

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I don't think it's irrelevant but to the anti-semites who post here it probably is.

Posted by: bbface21 | July 27, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Such a Diehl!

Posted by: whocares666 | July 27, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Anyway it's an improvement on us (and Diehl) pandering to Israel at U.S. taxpayer expense.

Posted by: redant | July 27, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

The truth is that the people of Gaza voted
for Hamas knowing full well that their
agenda is military confrontation with Israel.
If the Gazans voted for Hell, then let them
enjoy Hell. One day they may choose peace
and coexistence, and then God bless them
when they do. But for this British Jackass
Prime Minister to slander the state of Israel
over its Gaza policy (which is nothing less
than holding a mortal enemy at arm's length
without actually killing it), this is making
himself a fool, and a tool of Islamic fascists.

It is the heights of political bad behavior
to bad-mouth a third country on an
international political tour: Let Cameron
talk about Cyprus when he's in Turkey.
And let him talk about Gaza in Israel.

S D Rodrian
http://islamisbad.com

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Posted by: sdr1 | July 27, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

mg81992, I agree the security of Israel is paramount. The reality is that any Palestinian state needs to be viable. Israel will never have peace as long as the Palestinians live in abject poverty. The existing situation is untenable and is a breeding ground for terrorism. Israel is presently in a military position of strength but if you want the Jewish State to last forever a solution must be reached. Sooner or later the disparity in numbers will shift the balance of power. As we both know the enemies of Israel think in terms of thousands of years. It is best to deal now out of strength rather than put off the final solution. The continuing expansion of the Jewish State into disputed areas is winning very few friends for Israel. This may not seem important now, but it is something that Israel will regret dearly in the future.

Posted by: gvelanis | July 27, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again. Mr Diehl, just say that as a Jewish person you are primarily worried about Israel, even though you are an American. Then I will say that as a Muslim, I could care less. Let the US do what is best in it's interest and support it. Would you like to have the Latinos always supporting their home countries, and the Asians theirs too? Come on. You guys have been on the tit of succour long enough. Give someone else a chance, or just stop the sucking totally.

Posted by: Aeschylus | July 27, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again. Mr Diehl, just say that as a Jewish person you are primarily worried about Israel, even though you are an American. Then I will say that as a Muslim, I could care less. Let the US do what is best in it's interest and support it. Would you like to have the Latinos always supporting their home countries, and the Asians theirs too? Come on. You guys have been on the tit of succour long enough. Give someone else a chance, or just stop the sucking totally.

Posted by: Aeschylus | July 27, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Pander - to appeal to someones base desires... (Webster)...

So since you like to pander to the Israeli's so much ... why did you use the word pander? Could it be because his comments were true?

Posted by: mini1071 | July 27, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

David Cameron is not "pandering" to Turkey, he is being realistic in view of the importance of the Islamic world to Great Britain and increasingly to Europe. A member of my family was one of the diplomats that voted for the existence of Israel in the UN. However there is a reality that faces every country in the world and that is the importance of Islam and its economic resources versus the ideal of a democratic Israel. All over the world, the islamists are swoly but surely gaining pre-eminence over the Jewish state both diplomatically and economically. Soon Israel or its sponsor the United States will be reduced to buying the favor of countries ina similar fashion to what Taiwan does today. There is no way out of this predicament since demographics dictate that even in Israel proper, the Islamic population will in this century overtake the Jewish population making democracy a clear weapon in a "Democratic" Israel.
In latin America, Israel is losing the battle to the economic power of the Islamic world. This in the US "backyard". No longer can the Us Ambassadors command votes for Israel in the UN like in the past.
Is the world "pandering" to Islam? I think not. The world is bending to that most Jewish of all realities,the economics of the matter. How long will the US be able to throw in its lot entirely with Israel? I dare say that Israel has to face the reality of numbers both demographic and economic and prepare itself to become the Taiwan of the Middle East because the US needs the Islamic world more than it needs Israel. Sad, not idealistic, but apparently true.

Posted by: PilarFuerte | July 27, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Remember the U.S.S. Liberty!

Posted by: rkthomas2mriscom | July 27, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Jackson Diehl led the charge at Wapo for the US to invade Iraq and he has been an advocate of our pandering to Israel as well. He seems far more concerned about the harm Cameron's "pandering" will do to Israel, than the harm all the years of rolling over for Israel has done to the USA.

I commend Cameron for taking Israel on, we could use a few public servants with that kind of attitude, left or right.

As George Washington put it..
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp
...a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. .... And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country...

And so it is with AIPAC,ZOA,PNAC,FLAME,CAMERA, AEI whose "ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens" make sure Israel comes first, no matter the damage to America.

Posted by: real_democrat | July 27, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Diehl:
You are shamefully pandering to Israel. Mr. Cameron's condemnation of Israel's actions to block the flotilla is completely justified. It's time for Israel to grow up. Many of us US taxpayers are just plain sick of Israel's incessant whining and self-appointed victimization.

Posted by: cougartonyusa | July 27, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Remember the U.S.S. Liberty!

Posted by: rkthomas2mriscom | July 27, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

You must be kidding! Pandering, you haven't seen pandering until you have seen American politicians pander to AIPAC and the Israel lobby.

Posted by: Rothenberger | July 27, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Diehl does not show one instance in Cameron's s speech where his observations were wrong. Gaza is a open prison camp or what Deihl prefers a "open prison".
Did not Cameron speaks the truth when he spoke of Turkey's long service to NATO during the cold war only to be backhanded when they sought EU membership.
Haven't Turkey been correct when they fought for an impartial probe to determine why nine of their citizens were killed in the fortilla incident while the US failed to question how the US citizens met his death. The US fails to determine how its citizens meet their deaths when Israel is the party, as they have done in the attack on the US Liberty and Rachel Carson incident, Turkey's approach is different
So Jackson Israel delegitimized itself, they don't need help from anyone else except the United States which always is a willing partner.

Posted by: hairman | July 27, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Diehl is pandering to Israel at at America's expense. What does he think it is Club Med?

Posted by: goyo1588 | July 27, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Have to confess, never heard of or read Jackson Diehl till today. But he has been stuck on stupid for some time apparently. Harpers had a piece on him back in 2007 regarding his tawdry cheerleading for Bush and the Invasion of Iraq. The story in part:
"I went back and examined Diehl’s columns on Iraq and, as expected, the Post’s resident foreign affairs guru has been wrong on just about every key issue surrounding the Iraq war. Make an inventory of every cliché ever uttered about Iraq by war advocates, every hysterical charge of the global threat posed by Saddam Hussein—you’ll find them all in Diehl’s writings. You’ll also find that Diehl didn’t seem to consider that serious problems might arise in the aftermath of an invasion. When they did, he didn’t acknowledge that his own analysis might have been flawed, but instead blamed poor execution by the Bush Administration for everything he failed to foresee. Apparently, if Diehl had been deputized to run the war things would have turned out differently."

Posted by: goyo1588 | July 27, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Spend a week in Gaza living like a local and tell us it's not a prison, you pandering fool. That is, if Israel will even let you into Gaza without shooting you or running you over with a bulldozer.

Posted by: politbureau | July 27, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

How I loathe Israel and its partisans' never-ending apologias for its illegal and immoral behavior. It is killing the United States--when will this ever end?

Posted by: johnmoran175 | July 27, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Let's see...Turkey, a Muslim country had decent relations with Israel until the latter had their commandos storm a Turkish ship and kill a dozen people. hmmmm.......... Don't blame Turkey a bit.

The author of this idiotic article is indeed pandering himself to Israel. Wonder how much he's getting under the table?

Posted by: mosthind | July 27, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Hypocricsy should be a crime.
I did find your own pandering to Israeli interests) somewhat amusing.

Posted by: Kingofkings1 | July 27, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Hypocricsy should be a crime.
I did find your own pandering to Israeli interests) somewhat amusing.

Posted by: Kingofkings1 | July 27, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

This piece is not even propaganda. It borders on the fanatical. Diehl, your emotions are running really way ahead of any reason. You have no credibility left!

Posted by: likovid | July 27, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

If anyone has delegitimized Israel, it's Israel itself. It claims to be a democracy, but imposes racist policies and oppresses the non-Jews to an extent that many have called Israel a fascist regime. Israel takes land illegally from Palestinians and allows Settlers to damage their property without retribution. What is the most seriously is the collective hate from both the government and Jews against the local indigenous population. Yes, they hate Jews too, but who cares who started the cycle first.

Posted by: tdpss2 | July 27, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Shunned by the EU despite an ambitious reform program, ignored by the US in the build-up to the Iraq war, and increasingly marginalized by its Western "allies" despite a growing economy and increasing influence in the Islamic world; is it any wonder that the Turks have turned to the East? Perhaps Mr. Cameron realized that he misses the Turkey of yore, that erstwhile NATO ally, especially in the face of an untenable situation in Israel. Hardly pandering...

Posted by: zachhaugen | July 27, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Diehl,

You appear to be saying that Cameron is a hypocrite and liar because instead of using the term "prison camp," he instead said "open air prison." I totally fail to see the difference and agree with other posters who deplore Israel's treatment of the Gazans as well as Palestinians elsewhere in the region.

Posted by: lobewiper | July 27, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

I applaud PM Cameron's newish views on the Gaza prison and the Israeli flotilla attack. But for those of you who think President Obama and Prime Minister Cameron are able and willing to reverse strong pro-Israel foreign policies have not studied the real, not cosmetic and cleansed, nature of American and British political economies over several generations or hundred of years, respectively. The Zionist center of decision-making power is London with the support of Paris. The Zionist implementation of policy is in Washington with the support of NYC. Both or all nations' Middle East policies are heavily influenced or determined by Tel Aviv/Jerusalem. At best, these leaders are using the support of the Jewish/Zionist Left and any cleavages within thereof to influence Israeli politics/policy/actions by pressuring/removing/changing PM Netanyahu. And, all of this pressure on Israel might be simply a diversion for when Israel, if not the US/UK, attacks Iran/Syria.

Posted by: sssallie51 | July 27, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Just mention the name "Israel" and the anti-semitic freaks come out of the woodwork

Posted by: gadlut | July 27, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Not pandering, just telling it the way it is. People are waking up to the realities of this horrible situation.

Lift the siege on Gaza, please, Israel.

Your long-term security depends on changing your aggressive and self-serving actions.

Posted by: Sweetadversity | July 27, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

To gadlut: No, just mention Israel and you can hear all those Zionist heels click and a resounding Sig Heil. Come on dude, step back and smell the roses.

Posted by: tdpss2 | July 27, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Alas, confirmation that in Mr. Diehl's mind, Great Britain joins the United States as a colony of Israel.

Posted by: BBear1 | July 27, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

It's sad to see the British lion reduced to becoming a simpering pawn of islamofacists. All that's missing is Cameron's umbrella! Why should we expect anything different? Look at the Lockerbie fiasco. Look at their legislation that would subject foreign diplomats to be tried for any number of imagined offenses. Britain can no longer be counted on as a sensible and reliable ally. The Brit PM is has been usurped by the islamic immigrant population. They are the tail that is wagging the toothless lion. Shame on Cameron.

Posted by: diogenes4 | July 28, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Cameron = Chamberlain.
Here we go again.

Posted by: steve601 | July 28, 2010 4:03 AM | Report abuse

The hell with moral values - UK is looking once again for commercial benefits.
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1:On the reception of the Lockerbie bomber in Libya, Kaddafi son words to the bomber read by a mouth movement expert were that his freedom was on the economical negotiations with UK

2:M s Cameron- what is the next UK secreat deal with Islamist?

Turkey under Erdugan is undergoing an Islamic evolution
ERDUGAN POLICY --- NOT ATATURK LEGACY
1: Endogen considers Hamas a sister party
Hamas agenda is Islam rules the world
2: Erdugan government shelters IHH which is part of the global Jihad network
According to Danish and French intelligence reports:
IHH helped AL QAIDA attack on LA airport, send manpower, arms and money to areas engaged by Islamist
3: Erdugan is binding Turkey to the Iran Islamist theocratic regime
The Iranian theocratic rulers desire to replace the western civilization- including the end of democracy and western life style.

Posted by: mordechayariely | July 28, 2010 4:24 AM | Report abuse

Words are cheap and so are most politicians - Cameron and certainly Erdogan being no exceptions.

Erdogan still plays up the "West doesn't want us" theme in Turkey feigning a wish to join the EU and all the while working to ensure that this couldn't happen. Erdogan's politics will keep Turkey out of the EU (e.g. assault on a free media, government control of education and elections, etc.) and given the current financial problems of the EU no expansion is likely soon regardless. It's very cheap and very safe.

Cameron's feeble statements on Gaza won't help the people of Gaza but they will promote Erdogan's grandiose desire to be the Gaza Gazi and the policies of his friends in Iran and Syria.

Israel's approach to the "break-the-blockade" ship encouraged by the Erdogan government and his friends was mis-managed and needless political blundering, something that Erdogan understands and exploits daily for his own selfish ambitions. Erdogan and Bibi are in the same boat on responsibility for the 9 deaths on board.

Cameron is just doing what a cheap politician does.

Posted by: TomMiller1 | July 28, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

The rogue Zionists state has no one to blame for their isolation, but themselves for what is happening to them and will happen to them. Their atrocities, ethnic cleansing, and blatant disregard for the International laws and norm has and will back fire on them every step of the way.

Iran and the Turkish government will and should bring back the Islamic world to the consensus that trusting the West and the Apartheid Zionists state will never have any benefit for them. It is shown historically that west will use any means to disrupt the region progress. During the last 50 years This was accomplished by using the Zionist expansion in to the Islamic land and its ethnic cleansing.

who can deny that?!

Posted by: Esther_Haman | July 28, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Quite twisted article, telling it as it is does not make it at Israel's expense.
Media role is to inform and be objective, not so tinted.

Posted by: cj1231 | July 28, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Cameron is absolutely right about the treatment of Gaza. I hope we can soon have U.S. leadership that has the same insight and courage as Cameron.

We've spent billions support Israel for no good reason. The only justification comes from either references to WWII or that Hamas has fired "thousands of rockets" it Israel. The Israeli's have killed more Palestinians with U.S. supplied weapons than Hamas has fired rockets; not to mention without any significant damage.

Israel only wishes to expand territory, possess nuclear weapons and gain sympathy.

The day of reckoning is coming.

Posted by: jackbrumbelow7 | July 28, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Cameron is absolutely right about the treatment of the Palestinians by Israel.

The Israeli's justify ny action they wish by claiming rocket attacks by Hamas, the Holocaust or "threats by the latest enemy of democracy" (read Iraq, al Qaeda, Iran, etc).

Israel is bent on territorial expansion, possession of nuclear weapons and unending U.S. aid. The Israeli's have killed more Palestinians (mostly innocents) with U.S, supplied weapons than Hamas has fired rockets.

The rest of the world is getting smarter about he deceptions, hopefully the U.S. will have leadership with the insight and courage of Cameron.

Posted by: jackbrumbelow7 | July 28, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Since arriving here 3 months ago I have been shocked to find that any position that questions Israeli government policy is immediately seized upon as 'anti-Israeli'. Those criticising Israeli government policy immediately placed in the same camp as the lunatics who would seek to drive Israel into the sea.

In a country that prides itself on its love for freedom of speech, I was shocked to be advised by Americans to censor any views I may hold on the topic.

This article only serves to support my sad conclusion that one of the biggest barriers to peace and prosperity in that unfortunate part of the world is the US' inability to have an open, critical and constructive debate on the wrongs of an Israeli policy that has led to nothing but suffering for all concerned (including the US).

Mr Diehl is no friend of Israel. Friends offer honest constructive criticism and seek to help others see the error of their ways for the betterment of all.

Posted by: jamesstevens2 | July 28, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

The British and American governments, economies, and media have been under Zionist domination for so long, it is hard to believe Obama and Cameron's supposed criticisms of, and political pressures on, Israel and its policies. Except perhaps for the Internet, Zionist wealth, power, status, influence, and control should be at an all time high. Unless all of this is just a ruse to: either prevent the furtherance of anti-Semitism (since even lay people separate from populist and progressive activists believe Zionists for the most part control the American and British governments) or camouflage American and British support for a perceived unilateral Israeli decision to attack Iran and Syria (duping their people and the world of no US or UK complicity with such an attack). If I am wrong, why would these politicians possibly risk alienating AIPAC, Jews, Christian Zionists, and the military-industrial complex,and thus committing political suicide?

Posted by: sssallie51 | July 28, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

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