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Surprise, surprise: Tea Partyers are Republicans

For some months now, I have been battling against the idea that the Tea Party movement is some brand-new thing in American politics, an independent movement akin to the rebellion led by Ross Perot in the 1990s. Tea Party people, I have been arguing, are simply right-wing Republicans organized under a new banner.

I have not been alone in making this case, of course, and it has been slowly gaining ground, but I hope a new Gallup study will settle the question. Gallup is one of our oldest polling firms and no one’s idea of an agent for the left-wing conspiracy.

Today, Gallup put out a report that concluded:

There is significant overlap between Americans who identify as supporters of the Tea Party movement and those who identify as conservative Republicans. Their similar ideological makeup and views suggest that the Tea Party movement is more a rebranding of core Republicanism than a new or distinct entity on the American political scene.

Here’s Gallup’s summary of its findings from three surveys in March, May, and June of this year.

Gallup concluded that “almost 8 out of 10 Tea Party supporters are Republicans, compared with 44 percent of all national adults.” It also found that, “Thirty percent of Americans, on average, identify as Tea Party supporters -- a percentage remarkably consistent across the three surveys.” That’s a higher percentage of Tea Party supporters than in a number of other surveys, so no one can accuse Gallup of any prejudice against the movement.

Last April, I argued that “both major parties stand to lose if they accept the laughable notion that this media-created protest movement is the voice of true populism. Democrats will spend their time chasing votes they will never win. Republicans will turn their party into an angry and narrow redoubt with no hope of building a durable majority.” I see no reason to change my mind on that.

Some of my comments on the Tea Party over the last few months have aroused somewhere around 75 to 100 of its members (I haven’t updated the count lately) to send me tea bags in the mail. I thank my correspondents for the tea, and for their commitment. Some of the tea bags came with rather angry notes, which is in keeping with our politically-divided moment. But several of the Tea Partyers displayed excellent senses of humor, for which I salute them.

One wanted to match the choice of tea to my political views and so passed along a bag of French Vanilla. But my Proud-to-Have-Grown-Up-in-the-State-that-Hosted-the-Original-Tea-Party Prize goes to the person who thought hard about picking an appropriate brand for someone who writes a newspaper column and regular blog comments. So I say a special thanks for that bag of Constant Comment.

By E.J. Dionne  | July 2, 2010; 12:46 PM ET
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In todays Post I count no less than six separate articles attacking the Tea Party. Now, every single one of them is disingenuous, at best, and a series of outright lies describes the norm. Not since the avalanche of stories supporting the invasion of Iraq or claiming that illegals only take jobs "Americans don't want", have we been subjected to such an orchestrated and dishonest load of excrement. Now, given the amount of harm our disaster in Iraq has resulted in, given the challenge to the Constitution and liberty your support for the Patriot Act resulted in, I am trying to figure out what you clodhoppers are up to.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 2, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

the tea bag rebranding of the republicans is merely an effort to dump the stain of george w bush and create the fantasy that they are an alternative to something.
the fact remains that these are the same people who gave us george w bush and the current recession we are still struggling to get out of, and they still have nothing to offer but the same failed policies of george w bush.

Posted by: MarilynManson | July 2, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I went back and re-read the post. Replace "clodhoppers" with "cretins and hysterical windbags'. I forgot this was E.J. I was referring to.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 2, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse


Speaking of Gallup polls from June, 2010:

June 25, 2010

In 2010, Conservatives Still Outnumber Moderates, Liberals

Last year's increase in conservatism among independents is holding
by Lydia Saad

PRINCETON, NJ -- Conservatives have maintained their leading position among U.S. ideological groups in the first half of 2010. Gallup finds 42% of Americans describing themselves as either very conservative or conservative. This is up slightly from the 40% seen for all of 2009 and contrasts with the 20% calling themselves liberal or very liberal.


Posted by: screwjob16 | July 2, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Wow, EJ, you and the rest of the Democrats can rest easy, this finding just makes them go away!

Posted by: VastRightWingConspirator | July 2, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

That's right, E.J., they are the same leopard but with slightly different spots. We want the Repubs to cater to this crowd, the more the better. It will lead to a Democratic victory this fall, expanding the the Democrats seats in teh Senate and House.

All the brew-haha abot a Republican take-over of Congress or winning a bunch od seats - yeah, and I've got some ocean front property in Montana to sell you...

Posted by: ScottChallenger | July 2, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party will win.
10% of the Population creates 90% of the jobs.
A big portion of that 10% aligns idealogically with the Tea Party even if they don't show up at rallies.
Obama is at war with the job creators.
Obama is in the 90% of the population that can't create jobs and thinks he can run the country by fiat from the White House and Congress.
Every month Obama says:
"Let there be Jobs."
Every month its the same: NO JOBS.
No Jobs = No Obama
The resistance has begun.
The resistance will prevail.

Posted by: jfv123 | July 2, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Not surprising at all, these new revelations. Of course the tea party crowd is composed mainly of Republicans. They were incited by Republicans, encouraged and nurtured by them, funded by them and continue to be lied to by them.

But what will be interesting will be that so many Republican incumbants will be brought down by them. Like a scene in an old classic movie, the creator will eventually be destroyed by the very monster he created.

Good times.

Posted by: borntorun45 | July 2, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

It is interesting how the left-leaning pundit finds it necessary to continue to comment on what they perceive as an irrelevant, eminently ignorable movement.

Must be that they perceive it as a threat to their comfort as one of the "leading" elite.

Posted by: Crmudgeon | July 2, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

It is interesting how the left-leaning pundit finds it necessary to continue to comment on what he perceives as an irrelevant, eminently ignorable movement.

Must be that they perceive it as a threat to their comfort as one of the "leading" elite.

Posted by: Crmudgeon | July 2, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

This is news to you? Here is some other obvious statements for future articles:

1. Republicans give more to charity becasue the believe in personal responsibility.
2. More Democrats believe race matters in terms of employment, college applicaiton etc. Whereas most Repuplicans are color blind.
3. More republicans trust the people to make their own decisions and more Democrats trust the government.

This should give you 3 more "earth shattering" articles.

Posted by: sarno | July 2, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

E.J. states that Republicans "have 'no hope of building a durable majority.” I see no reason to change my mind on that."

E.J., you'll change your mind on Nov. 3rd. There will be a majority. So much of your commentary this year has been on the coming tsunami and you twist thoughts around to see if there's an escape i.e. the mid-terms will be anything but a liberal disaster.
My recommendation is to accept the inevitable (not unlike a cancer survivor), and prepare for the medicine. It is indeed coming.

Posted by: slatt321 | July 2, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Big surprise. The right wing is chock full of teabaggers... That's why they keep getting caught in airport bathrooms, or hiring male prostitutes.

Posted by: wideblacksky | July 2, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

These modern day Tea Partyers share something with the Ye Olde Tea Partyers we don't hear much about.

Then and now the Tea Party folks wore disguises.

Back in Ye Olde days them thar tea tossers dressed up like Native Americans. Not exactly an "in your face John Bull, we are rebelling colonists" action.

Fast forward to today, the present version, the tea bag danglers, are dressing up to look like Ye Olden day colonists. Whatsa matter, can't find any feathers?

Posted by: apspa1 | July 2, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse


123 days until Election Day. Four months. Two months of that is summer, and summer is over before you know it.

See you at the polls, Dims.

Posted by: screwjob16 | July 2, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

SURPRISE SURPRISE...Next theyll do a poll on their education level and find out 8/10 didnt finish high school.... this isn't a movement, just an insignificant half-ass group of people who are afraid.

Posted by: rel1982 | July 2, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

No study yet on how many 'progressives' are really just democrats. Are they still paying old white men of privilege to write this dribble daily?

Posted by: permagrin | July 2, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse


"I never miss an opportunity to insult the voters."

Your Typical Leftist

Posted by: screwjob16 | July 2, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

When people throw tea bags at you, make tea. Hope it was at least good tea.

And wow the Tea Party are "conservative republicans". Guess the sun does rise in the east and set in the west. All those who are suprised stand on their heads.

Posted by: kchses1 | July 2, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

"SURPRISE SURPRISE...Next theyll do a poll on their education level and find out 8/10 didnt finish high school.... this isn't a movement, just an insignificant half-ass group of people who are afraid."

No doubt bro, these stupid tea baggers are so irrelevant that liberal rags write story after story after story after story of how insignificant they are. and you eat it all up mr. educated. Did you say they were insignificant? Wow, make that liberal doucebag #32948586 who doesn't have an original thought.

Posted by: permagrin | July 2, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

DUMP OBAMA! CLINTON IN 2012!! THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE DEMOCRATS CAN RETAIN POWER!!! OBAMA IS POISON TO THE PARTY!!!!

Posted by: georges2 | July 2, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm amazed that anyone had to think more than one second on the makeup of the tea party members. I'd go as far as to guess that DNC members are democrats. Better check with Gallop! Some people need to get a life.

Posted by: LoveofCountry | July 2, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

You delivered, this time, Dionne! But nobody really cares about that. If we Democrats don't do something soon besides complain and make fun of the Republicans or the Tea Party or whatever, we're going to lose big time in November and really big time in 2012. Here's the thing: Americans are sick of Obama. This is everyone's mantra: ANYBODY BUT OBAMA! That's why we Democrats need to realize that if we don't dump Obama for the 2012 election, all is lost! HILLARY CLINTON IS THE ANSWER! Of course, Obama's folks will use every dirty trick they can think of to make sure it doesn't happen, but it should happen! OBAMA IS POISON TO THE PARTY! HILLARY CLINTON IN 2012!!!

Posted by: georges2 | July 2, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Dionne, you magnificient bastard! You did it, you cracked the case. This finding is right up there with the earth is round and Tiger Woods might like women. I'm shocked by all this.

One question. Now that they are obviously evil Republicans, does this mean Tea Partyers don't have a legitimate concern?

Posted by: cartertatge | July 2, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Gallup polls from June, 2010:

June 25, 2010

In 2010, Conservatives Still Outnumber Moderates, Liberals

Last year's increase in conservatism among independents is holding
by Lydia Saad

PRINCETON, NJ -- Conservatives have maintained their leading position among U.S. ideological groups in the first half of 2010. Gallup finds 42% of Americans describing themselves as either very conservative or conservative. This is up slightly from the 40% seen for all of 2009 and contrasts with the 20% calling themselves liberal or very liberal.

Posted by: screwjob16
___________________
what's your point? this stat has held remarkably steady for decades, through administrations of both parties. It's simply a function of the labels. "conservative" is simply more inclusive than "liberal." Obama won by getting the votes of the vast majority of the 40% who weren't liberal or conservative, so they must be closer to liberal than to conservative. So nearly 60% are in the camp you are not in, whatever you want to call it.

Posted by: JoeT1 | July 2, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

The primary funding sources for the Tea Party are Oil Industry Funded conservative groups:

“Americans for Prosperity”, “FreedomWorks”, “Cato Institute”, “American Enterprise institute” and the “Heritage foundation”.

which receive substantial funding from Exxon Mobil, ChevronTexaco and David Koch of Koch Industries, the largest privately-held energy company in the country, and the conservative Koch Family Foundations. Koch industries are responsible for hundreds of Oil spills spread over multiple states.

The Tea Party is fighting for what's best for Wall Street Criminals, for Oil and Coal Industry Criminal negligence resulting in Deaths and Pollution, and the Policies that allow them to continue doing so Without Oversight or Regulation.

Why isn’t the Tea Party organizing and demonstrating against Industries causing the Deaths and Lost Livelihoods of Millions of Americans? Why aren't they protesting Lack of Regulation against Wall Street, Oil and Coal companies that are Killing People and caused the Financial Devastation of Millions of Americans? Why aren't they protesting against BP and Halliburton's Gross Negligence in the destruction of Multi-Billion dollar Tourism and Commercial Fishing Industries in the Gulf Coast Oil disaster?

The Tea Party has a Clear Allegiance: The Rich, Oil and Coal.

Posted by: Airborne82 | July 2, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Suddenly a flurry of negative articles about "the tea party" - why? Did WaPo get some marching orders from Rahm Emanuel or David Axelrod?

Posted by: pgr88 | July 2, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

what is mibrooks 27 talking about? "Your support for the Patriot Act"? Who is "your"? Mr. Dionne makes a fair point in his blog. Most "tea partiers" are convervative GOP. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, but for those who hype it up as a brand new coalition of Americans uniting to throw off their shackles? -Nonsense. I didn't agree with going into Iraq either, but I don't believe that's a "liberal" or "convervative" viewpoint.

Posted by: 1qazQAZ1qaz | July 2, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

E.J. states that Republicans "have 'no hope of building a durable majority.” I see no reason to change my mind on that."

E.J., you'll change your mind on Nov. 3rd. There will be a majority. So much of your commentary this year has been on the coming tsunami and you twist thoughts around to see if there's an escape i.e. the mid-terms will be anything but a liberal disaster.
My recommendation is to accept the inevitable (not unlike a cancer survivor), and prepare for the medicine. It is indeed coming.


Posted by: slatt321 |
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slatt - perhaps you should read more carefully. Dionne says they won't win IF they are deluded in to thinking that the tea party is the true voice of populism and pursue their agenda (whatever that is) instead of just the ultra-right wing of their own party, because if they do, they will turn off true moderates and independents and simply solidify votes they would get no matter what. If Republicans gain a majority soon it will likely be because they agree with Dionne.

Posted by: JoeT1 | July 2, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

JoeT1:

You don't get it. It's not populism; it's jobs, spending, and lack of hope. If it were only Repubs then it would be entirely based on party turn out. That'll be strong but indeps will go heavy against incumbents. I know it. And deep, deep down, I bet you do to.

The first step is acceptance. You'll be ok, and when the president is forced to be moderate things will start getting better.

Posted by: slatt321 | July 2, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, the Tea Party ideals center on common sense regardless of political affiliation.

If you think we should protect our sovereign borders; support and respect our military; control Congressional spending with a real balanced budget, reign in the sense of entitlement; adhere to the United States Constitution, favor state rights and local governance, abhor bailouts at taxpayer expense, honor free market principals, and feel there is too much Federal power, you’re a Tea Party person.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | July 2, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

It's nice to see some scientific confirmation of what everyone knew anyway. The arguments from tea baggers that the group includes Democrats and Independents has been and always will be laughable.

Posted by: Observer001 | July 2, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

This is news to you? Here is some other obvious statements for future articles:

1. Republicans give more to charity becasue the believe in personal responsibility.
2. More Democrats believe race matters in terms of employment, college applicaiton etc. Whereas most Repuplicans are color blind.
3. More republicans trust the people to make their own decisions and more Democrats trust the government.

This should give you 3 more "earth shattering" articles.

Posted by: sarno | July 2, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse
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Neither side has a monopoly on race issues. How many black republicans have ever been elected to House or Senate? African-Americans didn't start voting primarily democrat for nothing, and this was all before Affirmative Action. Democrats have been using minorities, especially African-Americans for votes for decades. They make these government-backed promises, then don't deliver on anything.

I'm neither democrat or republican, I think both are just out to get a vote, but I will give republicans a hand for putting some African-Americans into positions of power. Democrats deserve a hand for putting forth and supporting an African-American presidential candidate.

Posted by: nsu1203 | July 2, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

People in the state of Nevada will regret the day Senator Harry Reid loses his seat. In the 1982 senate election between Senator Howard Cannon and and Republican Chic Hecht, the Republicans painted Senator Cannon as out of touch with the voters of Nevada. This is the same argument Tea-Party candidate Sharon Angle is painting Harry Reid. Most Nevadans are poor who think they are middle-class but are heavily in debt. For instance it is the Democrats who create jobs and provide benefits. After Senator Howard Cannon lost to Chic Hecht in 1982, the US government tried to dump nuclear waste in Yucca Mountain near Las Vegas. You see Senator Cannon was the head of the Senate Armed Forces Services Committee that deflected nuclear shipment from Nevada. Senator Harry Reid is in a similar situation where he is behind Sharon Angle but he is the Senate Majority leader. The problem with the people of Nevada is we have legalized gambling and the average citizen thinks he or she is a businessmen and have the same status as a Republican politician. People in a blue state will not understand this mentality but this is the reality. Nevada is second to last in education, the highest unemployment, the lowest life expectancy rate and still people will vote Republican. THE PEOPLE OF NEVADA WILL DESERVE THE WORST WHEN THEY SEE NUCLEAR WASTE, NO MORE SOCIAL SECURITY AND NO INNOVATION WHATSOEVER!!!!! WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS LOW-IQ PEOPLE WHO FIND THE TEA-PARTY VERY APPEALING!!!!!

Posted by: big_bors | July 2, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

georges:
"OBAMA IS POISON TO THE PARTY! HILLARY CLINTON IN 2012!!!"

Hillary Clinton will not run for office again. Sorry.

Posted by: presto668 | July 2, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

What is surprising about any of this? The Tea Party is symbolic for resistance to unwanted government presence in our lives, particularly in our economic lives. Which party complains that the most? It's the Republicans. Democrats want to regulate every aspect of our lives. Anyone who would deny that is much too blind or politically correct for their own good.

As a Republican, it's frustrating that the face of the Tea Party is a generic idiot spewing some derivative of Sean Hannity babble. I've said from the start that this movement is bad for the future of Republicans long-term because, to the young generation with a malleable political ideology it makes us look like morons. It's good to see that most of the GOP has largely sought to distance itself from the movement when pressed.

Posted by: TheThinkingMansMan | July 2, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I think this oversimplifies a bit. Yes the Tea party people are by and large Republican, but I think they represent the resurgence of the libertarian wing, primarily motivated by economics. This is a shift for the GOP in that the "values" wing aka evangelical christians have had their thunder stolen. That is a good thing.

Posted by: allknowingguy | July 2, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

The poor teabaggers are throwing all they've got at Dionne today!

And it ain't much.

Posted by: binkynh | July 2, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

JoeT1:

You don't get it. It's not populism; it's jobs, spending, and lack of hope. If it were only Repubs then it would be entirely based on party turn out. That'll be strong but indeps will go heavy against incumbents. I know it. And deep, deep down, I bet you do to.

The first step is acceptance. You'll be ok, and when the president is forced to be moderate things will start getting better.

Posted by: slatt321
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I think you just agreed with me. Actual independents who are concerned about spending, etc., may vote republican indeed, which would turn the tide, as independents often do. the point is that the vast majority of the tea party isn't those independents who voted for Obama.

Posted by: JoeT1 | July 2, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I ♥ COFFEE.....

Posted by: Geopolitics101 | July 2, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Or put another way, Sharon (armed insurrection - unemployment benefits just lead to unemployment - end social security) Angle, and Rand (those Nashville lunch counters shouldn't have to serve blacks if they don't want to) Paul, aren't trolling for Obama-voting independents.

Posted by: JoeT1 | July 2, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

LoveofCountry wrote: "I'm amazed that anyone had to think more than one second on the makeup of the tea party members. I'd go as far as to guess that DNC members are democrats. Better check with Gallop! Some people need to get a life."
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Just to refresh your memory, the Tea Party first started out decrying they were NOT a Republican Party, however, it is now apparent they really are and the recent polls come to that conclusion also. They shouldn't have lied about it to begin with.

Posted by: lddoyle2002 | July 2, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party may have started as a movement but it has become a money-making gimmick.

Posted by: rivermama | July 2, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

JoeT1:

Actual independents who are concerned about spending, etc., may vote republican indeed, which would turn the tide, as independents often do. the point is that the vast majority of the tea party isn't those independents who voted for Obama.
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Nothing controversial there, but also not newsworthy. Maybe I haven't seen enough argue-tainment on cable, but I am unaware that any statistically important percentage of independents who voted for Obama are simpatico with Tea-partiers.
The idea that E.J. just this week made up his mind that the T party is mostly Republicans is probably a hoot for most readers.

Please excuse my vanity, but I can't let it go.. you agreed with me. :-)

Posted by: slatt321 | July 2, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party is being used now to soften up on the Democrats and pave the way in 2012 for the GOP candidate selected by K Street and Wall Street. "Step aside, citizen. The professionals will take it from here. Don't forget to vote."

Posted by: SoCal | July 2, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I am SHOCKED! Next thing I now, people will tell me that there is gambling in casinos!

Posted by: AMviennaVA | July 2, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Yes Yes Yes. The Tea Party started out as a series of publicity rallies created by national GOP campaign staff. Republicans were recruited to attend. The original Tea Party events were very poorly attended, but Fox News (the Iraqi Information Minister of the GOP) covered them like they were some kind of gigantic spontaneous groundswell, and for some reason the mainstream reports bought it. I know you work for the Post, but the Times did some good polling which basically showed these people are the right wing of the GOP -- pretty much identical to the white male kooks who used to be known as the John Birch society. It's a few million Rush Limbaugh listeners, but a groundswell it ain't.

Posted by: tboyer33 | July 2, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

26% of Americans supported Nixon to the bitter end, about 28% of Americans supported Bush to the bitter end, about 29% of Americans identify as baggers.

Given the advanced age of the average Tea Party member, I suspect that the three groups listed above are made up of the same people, i.e., gullible, old Republicans manipulated by talk radio and whose primary loyalty is to the party and not to the nation.

Posted by: ravenmocker | July 2, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Sounds to me like the Tea Baggers are trying to swell their numbers by harassing journalists into just "saying" there are more Tea Baggers than there really are.

I don't see it. There was some kind of mad protest against Dionne, which resulted in him getting 75 to 100 tea bags in the mail.

Wow. Now turn those into votes and couldn't get anybody elected to the PTA, let alone public office.

Posted by: lindalovejones | July 2, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

The Truth Hurts to those who want to Kill American workers and Wildlife and Poison Fresh Water supplies and Children with impunity.

The current GOP's membership question is always; how can I pass Oil, Coal, and Gas Pollution and Poisons onto the Public without making the Polluters pay for it??? How can I abuse the Taxpayer funded Privilege of my office to advance Oil, Gas and Coal interests and get more campaign Money???

How can I allow Wall Street Banks to Win and the Public Taxpayer to Lose and get more campaign money for doing so??? It’s always “Heads I win, Tails you Lose” with Wall Street. How can I ensure Health Insurance companies continue to Gouge the Consumer with administrative overhead and duplicate procedures to I can get more campaign contributions??? How can I keep people Unemployed while Obama is in office and Stop and Delay Clean Energy Jobs legislation and using less Oil (which might cut into my profits~ ala Joe Barton and Judge Martin L.C. Feldman)???

How…How…How….Eureka…I’ll just block and say NO to any meaningful reform and weaken anything that passes so I can attack it later…-or-…call it an Evil Energy Tax so Pollution can continue unabated to be paid for by the Public while I take the Profits. An Evil Tax is much worse, much for Fearful than a little Poison or CO2 that you cannot see.... High Five…..Fist Pump….Flying Chest Bump!!!

Global warming?? What Global Warming??? Certainly the increased global temperatures, Flooding in Tenn, Kentucky, Arkansas, Arizona and Texas (It always floods in Texas ~ as Stevie Ray Vaughn's famous Blued ditty notes), is perfectly natural. Who cares what's also happening around the World. It's Sun spots silly!

Posted by: Airborne82 | July 2, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

No surprises in the Gallup Poll. The effort by Tea Partiers to paint the "movement" as simply a populist uprising against big government doesn't quite square with the facts.

They are only against big liberal government; conservative big government is perfectly fine with them. Just ask a random Tea Partier what he or she thinks of the warrantless wiretaps, torture, massive weapons systems and fences to keep out 'those people' and you'll find they don't mind the government as much as they would have us believe.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | July 2, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

No big surprise this news. The interesting question is "why?" Why concoct this new identity?

My thought is that the Republicans are trying to distance themselves from the disastrous policies of the Bush Administration and the Republican controlled Congress that went with it by doing what companies often do after disasters--re-branding. "We're not Republicans," they claim. "Our policies are different." But are they?

These findings suggest that conservative Republicanism = Tea Party, and I would go on to suggest that both = the Bush policies. There is no difference. During the first 6 years of George W, when Republicans controlled Congress, he used his veto power ZERO times, which displays rather complete agreement with Republican policies. And yet, the results--in war, in the economy, in administrative oversight of regulations--were disastrous.

So, if a=b=c, expect Tea Party policies to be equally disastrous should this re-branding gambit work. And others--Democrats and Independents--should remember what it wrought last time: the mess we're in.

Posted by: gary45 | July 2, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Those tea baggers remind me of them there crazy Islamic Arab Terrorists. They will try to lynch-mob hang ya for winnin a Presidential Election.

Posted by: truthhurts | July 2, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

This independent is not going to vote for republicans, of any kind. Since I have only voted for 3 democrat anythings in the last 30 years, I see now reason to change that either.

Those of you making assertions about what independent voters will do, maybe you should ask some of us? All we ever hear in the media are loud noises spewing from the buttocks of the True Believers populating both the democrats and the republicans.

Go ahead, ask us. We are sick to death of both of you. You both suck, and somehow in a strange recursive way you both suck more than each other.

Posted by: barferio | July 2, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

It is kind of hard to figure out what they're trying to say, particularly since they don't even agree with each other on many issues. Fear and hatred of the government seems to be a common theme, although one suspects that this would evaporate if their party was running it again. The venomous hatred of Obama makes you wonder if they're just racists, but they'll never admit it. The concern with the national debt seems a little strained, since most of these people pay no taxes and are dependent on the very social welfare state they claim to loathe (and see no contradiction in their position).

I suspect that these are easily-manipulated people whose buttons are being pushed by the same media outfit that started their movement in the first place, Fox News. As the propaganda organ of the Republican party, one has to assume that the goal is to serve the party's interests. They may have created a monster though, which will turn on its master.

Posted by: DaveHarris | July 2, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Joet1 - the vast majority of the tea party isn't independent at all.

I am personally ambivalent about the independent vote this fall. The latest thing in polls is to query "likely voters."

While some actual independents - my Father-in-Law, for instance - do vote in every election, most do not.

When a poll comes out showing "registered" voters Democrats tend to be doing better. But the pundits on both sides poo-poo it because some of those people are not likely to vote.

I am waiting to see how the polls look mid-August, after the sitting Senators have had the chance to campaign in person.

Posted by: TOMMYBASEBALL | July 2, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

truthhurts I think that is a little extreme.

Just because most republicans are unwilling to admit that I may love America as much or more than they do does not make calling them islamic terrorists OK.

While most people in the tea party - and probably a lot of rank and file republicans, too - hate America, I hardly think that is grounds for name calling.

Posted by: TOMMYBASEBALL | July 2, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I find the media search for Tea Party leaders extremely entertaining. If the group has leaders and a structure then it can be defined and becomes easier to attack. However, the amorphous nature of the Tea Party makes it a real threat to liberals. .... Kill this arm over there only to have another arm pop up some place else.

The Tea Party was never about forming a group or new political party, we're simply Americans tired of 20% of the nation dragging the rest of us through hell.

The media cannot control us because you can't even define us and you're really pissed off that we dare to speak our minds.

Posted by: SamWest314 | July 2, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Face it, the tea partyers are the crowd who believed in Rove's permanent republican majority. When they got slammed in 2008,they couldn't accept the fact that a Democrat, let alone a Black Democrat, had won the White House. These are just that core of repubs trying to rebrand themselves under phony issues of the economy and Constitutional rights. How so? Because there was nary a protest by this crowd while bush was building a record deficit, wrecking the economy, getting us into private wars, and bypassing the Constitution to spy on all of us, not just the "terrorists." boehner and the other fools claim that Obama hasn't created jobs, Well, he's created more jobs in 18 months than bush did in 8 years. The bush years saw more drops in fulltime employment than in any other since the Depression. Real wages stagnated. All those who castigate Obama do not mention bush at all. They refuse to face the facts or, actually, wish to hide them under some guise of responsible government. Obama is right: why would anyone want to return those same people to power? boehner, mcconnell, mccain, palin, bachman, kyl sessions-name me one of those gop "leaders" who anyone can remotely believe will have a clue how to run this country as they all backed bush to the hilt.

Posted by: mikel7 | July 2, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

EeJay .... Surely most people register in a party so that they can vote in primaries (as most States, i believe, limit primary voting to party members) so it isn't a surprise that Tea Partiers identify themselves as the recognized group that most reflects their values.

This is not to say that there isn't major disatisfaction with the Conservative Republican leadership!

Live by the poll, die by the poll!

Posted by: Hazmat77 | July 2, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Who in the world thought the Tea Partiers were only Democrats and the left. Republicans, independents, and Democrats who saw the direction this country was going attended the Town Halls and assembled as Tea Parties. Health care was being forced down our throats. Our choices were being taken away. The Constitution was being walked all over and Obama was as tone deaf then as he is now. The incumbent theory was created by the MSM, Obama, the Democrats and the left. Reality sinks in faster with some people then with others. The country was unhappy with Obama and Obama wasn't listening. After attempts to define the Tea Partiers as racist failed, now another attempt to define the Tea Partiers as only Republicans and not independents and Democrats is going to go down in smoke also. After Obama was sworn in he created the fantasy world he lives in and spins little time in the real world. If we keep spending more time in Obama's fantasy world, we won't recognize the real world when confronted with it, like now.

Posted by: houstonian | July 2, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Since they emerged immediately after Obama took office, the Tea Party is an obvious faction of the GOP that I've likened to a snake molting from its old skin. Conservative Republicans, having driven the GOP into the ditch, want no responsibility for their handiwork and so they pretend they are an new and independent movement apart from the discredited GOP brand they helped to destroy so that they can retake the GOP and start the whole process over again.

Posted by: TedFrier | July 2, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

MarilynManson...Perhaps you'd rather that sex pervert Al Gore had actually won the presidency .... hmmmmmm.....what does that say for your intellect?

Even Tipper reached the end of the line of tolerance for that dunce.

Perhaps it's too bad that Bush43 was the alternative ... but blame that on the Dumbocrats who nominated him, disregarding the fact that he was a loser with the personality of a dead chicken. He also was as crooked as can be - remember his taking of $300,000 in cash from a group of California Monks (where'd they get cash?) for the Clinton Reelection campaign. He lied and said that there was no controlling authority regulating such behavior - conveniently forgetting ethics at the very least.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | July 2, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Teabaggers are tea partyers are republicans are teabaggers... What a vicious cycle of incompetence...

Posted by: demtse | July 2, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT-
The majority of a group that favors smaller fiscally responsible government are Republicans. Who would have guessed. Thank God I read the Post and EJ in particular.

PS I would guess, though I didn't read it in the Post, that the majority of anti-tea party people are Democrats. And that's without Gallup one of the oldest pollsters in American.

Posted by: flyover22 | July 2, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Can you say Moral Majority? These guys are just as hypocritical and just as certain.

Posted by: wd1214 | July 2, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

mibrooks27 - reality and the obvious are not among your strong qualities are they. There has never been a time in the last 2 years that the teabaggers were ever considered anything other than the far right hate-mongers and active klan members that they are. It started upon the election of a black president and that is all they can focus on. Keep the delusion as the real world is a bit scary and I suspect you have run out of depends.

Posted by: mjcc1987 | July 2, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Hazmat77 - physician, heal thyself!!!

People like you love to throw what you allege as Democratic licentiousness around.

Where is your outrage over republican adulterers? I think you guys are ahead by a country mile in this department. Is there such a thing as a republican leader who isn't a philanderer?

The candidate for Gov in SC is outed as a multiple adulterer and her popularity in the party goes up!!!!!

Go figure...

Family values?????? Not in the gop

Posted by: TOMMYBASEBALL | July 2, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

A summary of EJ comment-
I knew I didn't like the Tea Party and now I have the proof- they are Republicans.

It's never issues with EJ just party affiliation.

Posted by: flyover22 | July 2, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

tboyer33 ... you keep believing that claptrap and say goodbye to your DNC leadership.

And to those who don't believe it, Hillary will either be VP candidate in 2012 on Barry's ticket, replacing the Biden Dunce, or she will challenge and defeat Barry- whose only support will be from the proud Black voters who don't give a hoot what Barry says or does, and some Hispanics who just can't believe that Barry only wants them here to vote for him!

Posted by: Hazmat77 | July 2, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Anyone as dumb as teabaggers would have to Republican. I've never seen a dumber group
of people given so much attention, The
main stream media is utterly right wing and corrupt.They are always inventing some right wing fringe group we are supposed to genuflect to. First it was the supposed moral majority- a closet bunch of homosexuals, wife cheaters, gamblers, liars and thieves. Then it was the soccer moms and the Nascar bunch.

The media loves to spread right wing ignorance so the corporations can rob us blind while we are fighting and savaging our fellow citizens.

Posted by: Barbi520 | July 2, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I can understand why Libs hate and denigrate the Tea Party Movement.

It's about fiscal responsibility and smaller government.

The Libs philosophy of bigger government and greater debt has given us 15% real unemployment, a crushing national debt, and now we're heading into a second recession.

Obviously the Libs economics have failed, look at the mess they've given us in just 18 months.

I long for the days of 4.5% unemployment and DOW 14,000 under evil George Bush.

Now the Libs want to spend even more to dig our hole even deeper.

The Tea Party is a reaction to that insanity.

Which even France, Germany and the rest of socialist Europe are rejecting.

Guess the French are Tea Party nuts too.

Of course fiscal responsibility and small government look insane to the 20% of Americans who self identify as Liberal.

And obviously they can't point to how great their program is working out because it's a train wreck.

So all they have to offer is blame Bush, insult anyone who disagrees with them as racist, and jam as much of their unpopular program thru Congress as they can before being blown out in November.

Obama is a failure.

He makes Bush look good by comparison.

That's just how bad he is.

Posted by: drjcarlucci | July 2, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

TOMMYBASEBALL...I'm a registered INDEEPENDENT....

Frankly regarding Al Gore ... I always knew that he was a creep and a crook. As for his current situation, I don't really care other than it confirms prior conclusions of his character.

I never critized Clinton for his adulterous sexual conduct - other than when he compounded his behavior by lying in a judicial proceeding which is a violation of his oath of office and his oaths as an attorney - which is why his law license was suspended.

I've always been suspicious of those hiding behind the family values claim.

All that aside TommyB, why do you defend Gore's alleged behavior (where is WAPO's reporting on it?) by bringing up what a Republican is alleged to have done?

That's obfuscation, not a defense or excuse.

Sleaze knows no arificial boundaries.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | July 2, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

TOMMYBASEBALL...I'm a registered INDEPENDENT....

Frankly, regarding Al Gore ... I always knew that he was a creep and a crook. As for his current situation, I don't really care other than it confirms prior conclusions of his character.

I never critized Clinton for his adulterous sexual conduct - other than when he compounded his behavior by lying in a judicial proceeding which is a violation of his oath of office and his oaths as an attorney - which is why his law license was suspended.

I've always been suspicious of those hiding behind the family values claim.

All that aside TommyB, why do you defend Gore's alleged behavior (where is WAPO's reporting on it?) by bringing up what a Republican is alleged to have done?

That's obfuscation, not a defense or excuse.

Sleaze knows no artificial boundaries.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | July 2, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

If the tea baggers ever learn how to make their cup of tea, it won't be green or black tea, they should be forced to drink it!!!

Posted by: tony12 | July 2, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

the teabagger terrorist are a bunch of repuglotarded people who are ashamed to admit they are repuglotarded

call it a "Profile in Cowardice"

most Americans realize how corupt and hypocritical the repuglotards have become

teabagger terrorist are a bunch of stupid cowards who can't admit they were wrong

Posted by: nada85484 | July 2, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Hazmat77 "Al Gore's alleged behavior" according to whom, again??? The National Enquirer? Well, that guarantees it is accurate!!!!

So, OK, Haz:

1) We do not know the specific reason Tipper and Al split. They have not said.

Unless you are close to them and breaking their trust, you don't know anything and are just inserting your own lewd opinion.

2) The woman who was alleged to be molested by Gore said nothing when she left his hotel room, said nothing the next day. Or the day after that. Or the day after that. etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.

When she finally got around to filing a complaint the police (and, note, not the Baltimore police) determined it was hokum.

Didn't she wait until she needed money to file the report? And didn't she get a nice check from the Enquirer for her tale of woe???

Hell, for a nice check I'll recall that Ann Coulter molested me. She and Barbara Bush, together.... Maybe Fiorina, too! See how easy it is?????

So, yea, you are right!!! Where is the big investigation??????

Newsflash: unless you are Fox news, you don't waste your time on a story that isn't.

Posted by: TOMMYBASEBALL | July 2, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Spend Spend Spend Borrow Borrow Borrow TAX Tax Tax. The Elite News Media supports it all. The Delusional have been in charge for over a decade. Throw them all out of office. Taxpayers have had enough. Americans are waking up.


Have you had enough.

Posted by: cosciousness | July 2, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Take one human being, give them less than a high school education, fill them up with toxic talk from the althernate reality of talk radio and Fox "News", play on their xenophobia, throw in some of that ol' time religion and you get someone bamboozled into voting for a party whose only true constituency is the corporate and wealthy elite. Oh, yeh, and also label the other guys as "elitists" as part of your War on Science.

Then pump massive amounts of money into the Military Industrial Complex and let the financial markets run amok to create the biggest liquidity bubble the world has ever seen and then load the financial markets with financial toxic waste. Then you have a faux economy that gives the illusion of national wealth and props it up for a few years.

Then promote a medical system that is the most costly in the world and has poorer outcomes than most other advanced economies as "the best in the world".

What you've got then is Tea Bagger heaven!

Posted by: gschultens | July 2, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Take some human beings, give them less than a high school education, fill them up with toxic talk from the alternate reality of talk radio and Fox "News", play on their xenophobia, throw in de-Christianized version of that ol' time religion and you get someone bamboozled into voting for a party whose only true constituency is the corporate and wealthy elite. Oh, yeh, and also label the other guys as "elitists" as part of your War on Science.

Then pump massive amounts of money into the Military Industrial Complex and let the financial markets run amok to create the biggest liquidity bubble the world has ever seen and then load the financial markets with financial toxic waste. Then you have a faux economy that gives the illusion of national wealth and props it up for a few years.

Then promote a medical system that is the most costly in the world and has poorer outcomes than most other advanced economies as "the best in the world".

What you've got then is Tea Bagger heaven!

Posted by: gschultens | July 2, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

The "Tea Party" is the usual gang of GOP dimwits whose aim in life, their sole aim, is to let others pay their taxes.

The rest of would feel sorry for them if they weren't so hateful and racist.

Posted by: sufi66 | July 2, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

The tea party is the BEST thing that ever happened - for the Democratic Party. The Republican party will be eaten by its own young in November.

As for all the tea partiers who are certian the democrats will lose in November: Try getting out of your Fox News bubble. Your "movement" is only supported by 30% of the electorate. You may be winning in Republican primaries, but actual swing voters are taking note of the ignorant "mob mentality" of your group and you won't hear about that in your echo-chamber medias.

Posted by: jvlem | July 2, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Spend Spend Spend Borrow Borrow Borrow TAX Tax Tax. The Elite News Media supports it all. The Delusional have been in charge for over a decade. Throw them all out of office. Taxpayers have had enough. Americans are waking up.


Have you had enough.

Posted by: cosciousness
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And the solution is to hand the reins of power back to the same group who had that power for most of that decade?

I gues it makes sense in a Tea Party sort of way.

Posted by: dldbug | July 2, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Congrats for figuring this out EJ, now how bout study to determine if the majority of the moveon.org or daily kos loons are democrats?

When the repubs are voted back in power this fall, we will see if they stick to the principles (they won't) they ran on. Then we will repeat the cycle and flush them out and continue to go nowhere.

Posted by: je121819 | July 2, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

..."I've been saying the same thing! Teaparty another name for Republicans who are afraid America might put together why we are in this mess the Republicans made by losing a "RECORD 8.5 MILLION JOBS, LEAVING A RECORD/DEBT/BILL/DEFICIT $1.5 TRILLION!

As President Barack doing all he can to clean up a "GIANT/CRIMINAL/REPUBLICAN/MESS!

This registered Voter/Vet USAF, Glad, glad, glad, he voted for President Barack over the Party of NO/Republicans who ruined America's economy then ran away...

Posted by: ztcb41 | July 2, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

This independent is not going to vote for republicans, of any kind.

Posted by: barferio

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there is the theme of the 2010 election

terrorist teabaggers, apologizing to BP, pretecting the wall street crooks, fighting against health care, rebranding themselves every 5 minutes, telling Americans we have to cut social security to pay for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and now the republtards are telling us that Obama should have never invaded Afghanistan

who would vote for delusional idiots like that

sharon angle wants to eliminate social security, & the department of Education, and deregulate offshore oil wells

and on local issues, sharon angle supports the Yucca Mountain Nuclear waste dump that is opposed by a strong majority of Nevadans

rand paul is a SELF ACCREDITED doctor, who lives off of medicare patients, and wants to end social security

rand paul opposes civil rights too

what's his name kirk in Illinois can't tell the truth to save his penis

the republitard party is a clown college

what sane person would suppot this bunch of idiots

and then there is $arah paylin ...

bat excrenent crazy

michele bachman, newt gingrich, haley barbor, dick armey

all a bunch of lying grifters

and rand paul can

Posted by: nada85484 | July 2, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

The tea baggers remind me of the so-called 'moral majority" crowd from the 1980s. Whenever one of them was asked by reporters the underlying reasoning for their many of their perceptions (which was really republican dogma), all they could ever could do was to simply parrott various republican talking points that they memorized. The so-called tea baggers to the very same thing. And most are nearly incoherent and sputtering with misplaced rage when they are even able to speak beyond the near scripted language they typically use...

Posted by: michaelsmith21 | July 2, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

$arah paylin, sharon angle, paul kirk (that's what's his face's name) and rand paul can't answer simple questions

and they blame the MEDIA for their stupidity, insanity, and lies

they are too stupid to know that the journalists are SUPPOSED TO BE "out to get them"

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That got cut out of my last post, and left a remnant that made no sense

Posted by: nada85484 | July 2, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey EJ,

You're wrong (again) (another shocker). Tea Partiers are conservatives. Many of them ARE in fact repiublicans, but many are also independant, and even some are democrats.

Get it -- CONSEREVATIVES.

It's a wonder that you remain employed.

Posted by: MrBoggle | July 2, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

So, they're red zingers?

Posted by: whocares666 | July 2, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for adding that nada854. We were confused about your rant.

Posted by: slatt321 | July 2, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Mr. E. J. Dionne, thank you for showing us just how relevant the Tea Party is. You and your "Progressive Comrades" must really think that the Tea Party is irrelevant. That must be why you try to convince the rest of us that they are. Hmmm. Oh well, if they are so irrelevant, I guess you don't have anything to worry about. Hope the Kool-Aid tasted good.

Posted by: barrysal | July 2, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

MrBoggle

Last time I checked, 80% is more like "almost all" than "many". If the remaining 20% are independents and people who are registered as Democratic, I would count that as a "small minority" as opposed to "many" and "some". But, go ahead and type conservative in all caps, since it is pretty emblematic of the blue-faced, screaming idiots that the teabaggers appear to want to be seen as.

Posted by: daweeni | July 2, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

NAW? YOu are kidding I thought they were "real Americans"?? Wow imagine that? They have a name? My, My!

Posted by: Scar1 | July 2, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Why should the Gallup poll's results surprise anyone? 30% of American voters describe themselves as Tea Party members or sympathetic to the TP. Does anyone recall that about 30% of the electorate during the darkest Bush years could be counted on to support Bush and his policies? It's no coincidence. This new voice of "populist outrage" is just a rebranding of the same outrageous no-nothingism that always will be with us.

Posted by: gratianus | July 2, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

I will be sure to tell my independent friends who joined the tea party that, they are really republicans.... what a crock!!

Posted by: greenstheman | July 2, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

I disagree. The Tea Party is the new political wing of the Klan.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | July 2, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Psst. Hey everybody... I got a scoop that I just heard about in a poll...

Most folks who foam and rage against the T-party - are progressives... Shhhh.

Posted by: slatt321 | July 2, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

This is hardly a revelation or insight by Dionne. Just common sense.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | July 2, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Well, yes they are "just Republicans". They ARE the Republican Party today. These people have been purging their party of each and every "moderate" voice of old time Republicanism for years now.
And, they have succeeded. My God, how EMBARRASSING for old time genuine Republicans who believed in civil discourse (because they were CONSERVATIVE in their speech and expression of ideas), how EMBARRASSING for old time genuine Republicans to be represented by these wild-speaking, fact-less based statements made on THEIR? behalf.
The Republican Party has morphed into something that old time Republicans would not even recognize: old time Republicans like Ike, Rockefeller, Barry Goldwater, George Romney, and every other one of them.
You know, there really was a time in history, and not that long ago, when a really decent, enlightening conversation could be held between Republicans and Democrats. A time when each party had something relevant and valuable and serious to offer one another.
Not anymore. The Republican Party allowed itself to be taken too seriously by their radical element and it killed them.
It saddens me very much because there was a time when it was really possible to look to Republicans for a meaningful contribution to our public lawmaking. They often made sense and were capable of working with their political opponents who might not have made much sense and worked it out.
I am so sad about the death of the Republican Party as I knew it to be.
But, that's America, isn't it. Political parties, like each of us as individuals, grow, change, live or die and life goes on.

Posted by: cms1 | July 2, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

TEA REVOLT wants nothing to do with current Democrats or Republicans.
Independent Party who will open all hidden history on Public Officials,call for One Flag one Allegiance and deport the multiple citizenships with no allegiance here, make Congress term limited and delete all of their active retirement plans.



Posted by: dottydo | July 2, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party has a Clear Allegiance: The Rich, Oil and Coal.


Posted by: Airborne82
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Strange assessment when you consider that most of the "rich" consider themselves liberal and big oil has contributed substantially to the Democratic candidates and those who are already in office.

Posted by: bethg1841 | July 2, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

In other news, bear poop is found in the woods, confirming what was long suspected.

Posted by: hitpoints | July 2, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Tea Partiers are just Brown Shirts disguised as Americans, but who may have the same effects as eighty years ago. The irony in this case is what Tea Partiers are against only applies to others, but not themselves: Reduce government largess, Social Security, Medicare, Home Owner and Loan and Student benefits for others, but NOT themselves or their families.
They act like Lemmings following the multimillionaire radio and tv jocks who push them toward going against their own interests$.

Posted by: october30 | July 2, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Tea Partiers are just Brown Shirts disguised as Americans, but who may have the same effects as eighty years ago. The irony in this case is what Tea Partiers are against only applies to others, but not themselves: Reduce government largess, Social Security, Medicare, Home Owner and Loan and Student benefits for others, but NOT themselves or their families.
They act like Lemmings following the multimillionaire radio and tv jocks who push them toward going against their own interests$.

Posted by: october30 | July 2, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Tea Partiers are just "Brown Shirts" disguised as Americans, but who may have the same effects as eighty years ago. The irony in this case is what Tea Partiers are against only applies to others, but not themselves: Reduce government largess, Social Security, Medicare, Home Owner and Loan and Student benefits for others, but NOT themselves or their families.
They act like Lemmings following the multimillionaire radio and tv jocks who push them toward going against their own interests$.

Posted by: october30 | July 2, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Tea Partiers are just "Brown Shirts" disguised as Americans patriots, but who may have the same effects as eighty years ago. The irony in this case is what Tea Partiers are against only applies to others, but not themselves: Reduce government largess, Social Security, Medicare, Home Owner and Loan and Student benefits for others, but NOT themselves or their families.
They act like Lemmings following the multimillionaire radio and tv jocks who push them toward going against their own interests$.

Posted by: october30 | July 2, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Of course Tea Parties as Republicans. But they are even stupider and more pigheaded than the average stupid, pigheaded Republican and are a really threat to our country since their goal is to push the country into anarchy and chaos.

Posted by: jjedif | July 2, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse


As many are independents. Massachusetts is only 12 percent registered Republicans. How did Scott Brown win in Massachusetts? Riddle me that Dionne, you leftist hack.

Posted by: screwjob16 | July 2, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Shocking that a movement bankrolled by Dick Armey is full of Republicans... They they just show up when the Democrats took charge... shocking shocking shocking...

You can shine up excriment all you want, the tea party movement line the GOP proper is still excriment.

Posted by: dwdave67 | July 2, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Surprise, Surprise the mainstream media is pimping for Obama and the Democrats.

Posted by: jblast2000 | July 2, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

This kind of crapola makes me sick:

The Tea Party will win.
10% of the Population creates 90% of the jobs.
A big portion of that 10% aligns idealogically with the Tea Party even if they don't show up at rallies.
Obama is at war with the job creators.
Obama is in the 90% of the population that can't create jobs and thinks he can run the country by fiat from the White House and Congress.
Every month Obama says:
"Let there be Jobs."
Every month its the same: NO JOBS.
No Jobs = No Obama
The resistance has begun.
The resistance will prevail."

The resistance has begun.
The resistance will prevail.

Puhlease. Newsflash: You're not Samuel Adams. You're not a patriot. You're apparently not even capable of cognitive thought. Please stop watching TV and listening to the morons on Faux. YOU are destroying the nation I love. You don't like it here? LEAVE.

Posted by: borntorun45 | July 2, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

The RepuBPlicans keep saying the richest 10% create the jobs so give them what they want. Well, that was done and they sent all the good jobs overseas, racked up record profits, and destroyed the middle class. They did not create jobs and they won't if they have their way.

Posted by: dnahatch1 | July 2, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse


Given the abysmal performance of American institutions during the past 30 years, it is understandable that Americans would be unhappy with the outcomes. Their perception that there have been chaotic responses and failed policies is accurate. Whom to blame is inaccurate. Nobody put a gun to Angelo Mozillo's head and forced him to sell fraudulent adjustable rate mortgages to big names on Wall Street. Nobody conspired to induce Moody's to rate AAA packages of Angelo's loans because AIG insured them against default. AIG wasn't compelled, other than by greed, to write insurance against mortgage default on many times its capitalization. Counterparty risk was evident, yet the S.E.C. hadn't the slightest notion that anything was wrong or would lead to an economic catastrophe nor that the catastrophe would lead (under Cheney and Bush) to taxpayers propping up major banks (there being no longer a distinction between investment banks and retail banks). The Tea Baggers blame none of the aforementioned institutions. They blame Liberals, foreigners, and lazy, shiftless American minorities for problems that Conservative Americans in high places created. They see a trillion dollars or more loaned to banks to be a Liberal conspiracy to give away their hard-earned tax money. Fact challenged, they do go on -- and loudly.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | July 2, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

There are a cream of fringe soup. A mix of the lowest of obstructionist Republicans, race-hate groups, militia nuts, anti-abortion terrorists, and advocates for 'free-market' destroyers of our nation. Hopefully, heath care reform will help them access psych meds.

Posted by: revbookburn | July 2, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse


Only 20 percent of American voters are liberals Dionne, you leftist hack.

42% are conservative or very conservative.

Posted by: screwjob16 | July 2, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

The aptly named "screwjob16" scribbled this half-baked comment: "As many are independents. Massachusetts is only 12 percent registered Republicans. How did Scott Brown win in Massachusetts? Riddle me that Dionne, you leftist hack."

Somewhere in that insane word salad, you asked why Brown won in MA. The answer, screwy, is that he's good lookin' (especially in the Cosmo shots), his wife is a well-known personality in the state, he drives an old truck, he's nicer than the Democrat (who came off looking arrogant), and he pandered to the tea partiers.

BTW, how's he workin' out for ya?

Posted by: borntorun45 | July 2, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

"We are completely in the bag for Barry the incompetent boob Obama and have been whitewashing Barry's three-ring circus of blunders since Day One."

Your Editorial Staff

Posted by: screwjob16 | July 2, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Remember after the 2008 election where Republicans were despairing over their damaged "brand?" When there was report after report of a record low number of voters self-identifying as Republicans?

Well the tea party has solved that branding problem.

Maybe the tea party USED to be an independent voice but it has become gradually more and more co-opted by the GOP. Nowhere is this more evident than the huge role Dick Armey (the former Republican house-speaker) has played in this movement that past few years and the vigourous support given to it by Fox News and their hosts. Fox News, as you'll recall, is owned and controlled by Roger Ailes - who was a media consultant for Nixon, Bush Sr., & Reagan, in other words, an establishment Republican.

The Tea Party has simply been a way to allow people to support the Republican Party without closely associating themselves with the Republican party and Bush. Which is why you hear some people say "I'm not a Republican, I support the Tea Party" even though they essentially support the same things.

The thing is the Tea Party's stength is an illusion. The majority of their ranks are composed of scared elderly people who fear their medicare & social security entitlements being cut to make way for more programs. However leaders of this movement have started to believe their own propaganda and they fail to realize this.

All it takes is for the tea party to advocate abolishing social security, medicare & medicaid and the entire movement will collapse like a house of cards and the leaders will start scrathing their heads wondering why. Their ranks are full of fellow travellers, not die-hard ideologues but of course, the die-hard ideologues fail to realize this.

This will be the end of the tea party, of that I am confident. It's inevitable.

Posted by: cjpotter19 | July 2, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

It's important to emphasize that the Tea Partiers are Republicans. The Tea Partiers want to disassociate themselves from the Bush record on deficit spending. But most of them no doubt voted for George Bush twice (don't tell me they voted for somebody else than George in 2000 and 2004), and that kind of messes up their pose as being against fiscal irresponsibility. And that's what it is--a pose. They have no ideas, or at least haven't shared any, on how to bring the federal budget under control.

Posted by: parkerjere | July 2, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, its shockingly obvious. More importantly, Tea Partiers were asked by Senator Graham (R-SC), ok, you can say what you're against, but what are you for ... what are your solutions? Mr. Graham rightly concludes the rebranded fools called tea partiers are a fad. They have NO solutions. Its just a group of whiners and complainers who, despite being upscale, can't think beyond what they hate. The tea party is a Faux News vacuous invention.

Posted by: seve2yoo | July 2, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

It's important to emphasize that the Tea Partiers are Republicans. The Tea Partiers want to disassociate themselves from the Bush record on deficit spending. But most of them no doubt voted for George Bush twice (don't tell me they voted for somebody else than George in 2000 and 2004), and that kind of messes up their pose as being against fiscal irresponsibility. And that's what it is--a pose. They have no ideas, or at least haven't shared any, on how to bring the federal budget under control.

Posted by: parkerjere | July 2, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

I knew who they were a long time ago. You can tell by how dumb they are. Anyone that falls for McCain's flip-flop politics, and Palins BS aren't playing with a full deck. And I won't get in to some of the things these nut-jobs are calling for because most have been mentioned here already. If they get their way believe me it won't last long. Once people get a taste of living in Tea-Bag land they'll be running down to the White House guns blazing.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | July 2, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse


"We are trying to break the news to you gently: The Democrats are going to get slaughtered in the midterm elections."

Your Editorial Staff

Posted by: screwjob16 | July 2, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

The tea bag movement is a class movement of republicans and right wing independents. No growth for the GOP. They are the party on No.

Posted by: COWENS99 | July 2, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Yes Dionne. The last of the American Patriots you so despise.

Posted by: Imarkex | July 2, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why this op-ed writer gets promoted to the front page as often as he does? How is this guy even employable? He better be thankful the Washington Post is still hanging on financially or else he would be blogging for Huffington (...maybe).

Posted by: goodczara | July 2, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why this op-ed writer gets promoted to the front page as often as he does? How is this guy even employable? He better be thankful the Washington Post is still hanging on financially or else he would be blogging for Huffington (...maybe).

Posted by: goodczara | July 2, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why this op-ed writer gets promoted to the front page as often as he does? How is this guy even employable? He better be thankful the Washington Post is still hanging on financially or else he would be blogging for Huffington (...maybe).

Posted by: goodczara | July 2, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse
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Care to back up your statements with actual arguments other than assertions?

Why not attack the argument put forth rather than the person who is making it?

Are Tea Partiers not by and large Republican voters? Do they share Republican values? If he's dead wrong and they are in fact not affilated with any party, care to state why this is so?

I am so sick of seeing assertions thrown out on message boards with nothing to back them up. Anyone can do that and frankly it's very boring and tedious to read.

Posted by: cjpotter19 | July 2, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

It's all about teabaggers' feelings of guilt and shame for swallowing the bait Karl Rove used to sell the Bush agenda to the voters of America.

They took the bait and ran with it for seven years. It was only when the Bushies brought the country to its knees economically and juridically - only then did the fish get the sense that they had been baited, hooked and reeled in.

Most still can't admit they helped bring the country to its present crisis.

So they hug the flag and swear by the Constitution to try to salvage some shred of dignity.

Oh yeah, and they never mention Bush, Cheney Rumsfeld and Gonzales.


Posted by: Anadromous2 | July 2, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

You have Graham announcing that the Tea Party is a flash in the pan, and Steele putting his foot in his mouth to Bill Kristols dismay. It sounds as if the Republicans are fighting themselves and losing. The Dems have to be delighted.

Posted by: merrylees | July 2, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

The tea party, like the Republicans, are all a bunch of dumb faggg0ts

Posted by: bendan2000 | July 2, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Great job by Mr. Dionne in coining the description of a tea baggers diplomatically but in reality they are nothing more than scum of the earth flea bitten racist Republicans!

Posted by: Citi__Street | July 2, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

You'd be wise not to drink the tea these people send you!

Posted by: rbmurals | July 3, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Duh. A republicon financed them, fux the news created all the hype around this loser insane bunch of fanatical kooks (ie-conservatives/republicons) what did you expect? They spout absolute gibberish about communism and Kenya and SEIU as if it meant anything to anyone except pther tea baggers. hey carry guns to political rallies, come up with genius slogans like "keep you government hands off my Medicare" and cry for "smaller government" while paying for their tea baggings with welfare and social security checks. In other words, they are typical rank and file republicons.

Posted by: John1263 | July 3, 2010 12:32 AM | Report abuse

The tea bag people are right wing nuts-they add not one vote to the GOP.

They are as stale as McConnell.

Posted by: COWENS99 | July 3, 2010 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Tea Partiers are Republicans, Democrats, and Independents who are tired of non-representative government, and who believe in the Constitution, and the intent of the
Founding Fathers. They believe in Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, and the Right of Peaceful Assembly, which I guess you "sophisticated libbies" think is "old fashioned". BTW, they are demonstrating for the right for you to believe in what you do too, even for the right of "you lefties" to call them the despicable pornographic names that you call them. Sounds like some exceptional American Citizens to me. But, of course, what would you know? You're too busy enjoying your freedoms, while "Mommy and Daddy" pick up after you and pay the bills. Have a nice 4th of July, and have a nice life.

Posted by: barrysal | July 3, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

In other news, bear poop is found in the woods, confirming what was long suspected.

Posted by: hitpoints | July 2, 2010 8:46 PM

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HILARIOUS!

Posted by: damascuspride04 | July 3, 2010 1:12 AM | Report abuse

And what's so bad about that??? You liberal, clowns reveal your hateful bias with editorials like this. Obama is running America into the ground so the TEA PARTY folks are looking better and better to more Americans.

If you don't like that, blame the Obamatons and Pelosites. They are in charge now.

Maybe not for long though.

Posted by: battleground51 | July 3, 2010 6:16 AM | Report abuse

E.J. refuses to acknowledge that many people in the Tea Party are Hillary Democrats who fled the Democratic party when it was hijacked by radicals like Obama, Pelosi,Dean, Brazile, Frank, Dodd, Jarrett etc etc etc .....the very thought that there are Democrats out there who wont support Obamas disastrous policies scares EJ to death so he ignores it. Keep bashing the Tea Party EJ - we need the constant publicity. Hillary is having the last laugh on you radicals who spit on her. Enjoy it Hillary - your time is coming.

Posted by: JUNGLEJIM123 | July 3, 2010 7:01 AM | Report abuse

Teaspooners embrace irrational thought, anti-science, anti-intellectual. Teaspooners say they want their "freedoms" yet imply "2nd ammendment remedies" when they don't get their way. Other than telling America who can and can't get married, who can and can't raise children, and what religion we must embrace, and who is allowed to have sex and when, they really do want guvment out of our lives. Pusilanimous windbags..it is the GOSheep.

Posted by: mrtimmaulden | July 3, 2010 7:05 AM | Report abuse

A few of my favorite statistics from the survey a few months ago.

The tea-partiers are 98% white. 94% say you can't ever trust the government to do what is right. 24% say violent action by citizens against the government can be justified.

These are the "angry white male" Bush voters. Only 6% blame Bush for the economy. 60% will admit they still like him. They are older now, and angrier at the Republican party. Their main points of agreement are that they don't like Democrats, you can't trust the government, and Fox is the place to get your news. Their most admired living political figure is Newt Gingrich ("drill here, drill now, pay less").

If you factor out the TP, there is enormous consensus in this society. For example, on HCR, more than 90% of non-tea-partiers favor the insurance company regulation, more than 70% favor a mandate, and 75% are OK with taxing high incomes to pay for subsidies. 85% think Medicare and SS are worth it.
Less than 5% blame Obama for deficits, and three-quarters think Obama understands their needs and problems. 85% are concerned about
global warming. Only 9% want to weaken gun laws.

Posted by: chase-truth | July 3, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Analyze, rationalize, marginalize, or anathematize--the Tea Party must be reckoned with. E.J.'s obsession proves that.

Shocker: E.J. has a sense of humor! Who knew?

Posted by: elgropo1 | July 3, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Republicans with strong libertarian leanings voted for Perot in 1992. Republicans with strong libertarian leanings are disgusted with the current brand of RNC Republicans and are supporting Tea Party candidates. And Dionne thinks this is a "eureka" moment? What am I missing?

Posted by: RedderThanEver | July 3, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Chase-truth -- Tell me, please, what percentage of the Green Party or environmental movement in general is white. Tell me what percentage of the Pro-
Choice and Pro-Gay Rights movement is white. Or, conversely, tell me what percentage of these groups is "of color" and why. Or just tell me why any of it matters, except to racists on the Left.

Posted by: RedderThanEver | July 3, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Chase-truth -- Tell me, please, what percentage of the Green Party or environmental movement in general is white. Tell me what percentage of the Pro-
Choice and Pro-Gay Rights movement is white. Or, conversely, tell me what percentage of these groups is "of color" and why. Or just tell me why any of it matters, except to racists on the Left.

The questions that are of greater interest to me are...Why is opposition to an outrageous and unsustainable national debt considered racist? And why is it only middle-class whites who are concerned about an outrageous and unsustainable national debt? Could it be because middle-class whites pay the bulk of the bills?

Posted by: RedderThanEver | July 3, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Shhhh...don't blow the lid on Dick Armeys scam on those still brain-dead enough to vote for republicans. You may have opened the door so the lemmings see that they've again been played by lobbyists and scumballs like Armey who are just looking to manipulate the weakminded so he can take their donations and their votes, and then screw them blew through legislation that benefits everyone but them - corporations and the rich.

These cretins crawl out from under their rocks every time theres a democrat in the white house. They're easy prey for the likes of those willing to take advantage of their ignorance and their anger. Look where it lands us - loaded with debt and a shrinking middle class. The scam has been working since the reagan days, and bush played it masterfully - too bad the majority of americans are now paying the price, and will be for years to come.

Posted by: notfooledbydistractions1 | July 3, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

It is interesting how the left-leaning pundit finds it necessary to continue to comment on what they perceive as an irrelevant, eminently ignorable movement.

Must be that they perceive it as a threat to their comfort as one of the "leading" elite.

Posted by: Crmudgeon | July 2, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

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Crumudgeon - call it what you like, I'd call it intervention. Trying to save the obvious lemmings from being duped again. And trying to save our country from those lined up to take advantage of your obvious gullibility in an attempt to save our country from destruction by those looking to line their pockets and complete the corporatization of this country and annhiliation of the middle class.

For thirty years republicans have been campaigning for small government, fiscal conservatism - but once they're in power they are anything but proponents of small government - except for deregulation of almost everything which leads to disasterous results like the destruction in the gulf, repeated mining disasters and the near collapse of our economy through the recklessness of wall street and the banking industry. They have been anything but fiscal conservatives, but you and others on the right continue to fall for their hooey thinking that THIS TIME, they'll really follow through. How many times do you have to be fooled before you catch onto the scam? Others are more astute, we're just trying to save you, and ourselves from their obvious scam.

Posted by: notfooledbydistractions1 | July 3, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

I read all of the comments so far and all of the right wing comments were just name calling, uniformed, ignorant, frequently bigoted hot air. That is the problem with the Republican party (Tea Party). They have nothing to offer but bigotry and anger. Your elected representatives in Washington did a good job of showing that this week not to mention the party chairman. I note that rational Republicans, only a few fit that category I admit, called for him to resign.

Posted by: withersb | July 3, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

It is not surprising that Republicans make up a majority of the Tea Party people. However, simply saying that this is the Republican Party trying to distance themselves from Bush is naive. If you will remember, Bush ran on a humble foreign policy. However, when he got into office he became a statist, intervening in foreign affairs, education, civil liberties, etc. He expanded the role of the federal government to unprecedented levels. Obviously, Libertarians, Constitutionalists, and the like were opposed to these power grabs, but they make up a minority of voters. However, there is a growing number of Republicans who are fed up with interventionism in foreign affairs as well as the complete lack of respect by neo-con Republican leadership for the Bill of Rights.

The neo-con talking heads on Fox Noise, and the Republican leadership, seem to miss the point. When "Old Right" Republicans who align themselves with Goldwater ideals side with the American Civil Liberties Union instead of the Republican Party on Guantanamo, litigation shields using "state secrets", the unconstitutionality of the Patriot act, etc., then there is clearly a problem.

Stop analyzing who the Tea Party people are. When you do that, you miss the point. Instead, listen to the arguments. Although most Tea Parties focus on economics, and espouse Austrian rather than Keynesian economic principles, there are other topics that focus on the Constitution.

America has lost it's way. When the socialist nations in Europe tell us to cut our deficits and to reduce spending, we have a problem. The Tea Party people have been saying this since 2008. It is a shame we didn't begin listening sooner.

I wrote on the perceived anger of the Tea Party people, so I won't go into that here (if interested, see http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=36233).

Posted by: chmst1999 | July 3, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Maybe. But, apparently, from recent statements from Republican insiders like Lindsey Graham, the Tea Party connection is imploding, not exploding. It's the Pushmi-Pullyu of politics, demanding several contradictory things at the same time.
All those furious holders of signs reading "Don't touch my Medicare" will be screaming at Teabaggers/Republicans this time around, Teabaggers who already are beginning to talk about phasing out both Medicare and Social Security. So all those seniors can put their money in the solidly reliable stock market. (The last sentence was sarcasm, if you missed it.)

Posted by: NancyESL | July 3, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse


This Just In from Gallup Polling!!

Independent voters now favor a generic Republican candidate for Congress over a generic Democratic candidate by 12 points, a trend that appears to be tied to their feelings about President Obama.

Posted by: geo82170 | July 3, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

TEA REVOLT wants nothing to do with current Democrats or Republicans.
Independent Party who will open all hidden history on Public Officials,call for One Flag one Allegiance and deport the multiple citizenships with no allegiance here, make Congress term limited and delete all of their active retirement plans.

Posted by: dottydo

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Actually the Tea Party is made up of Klansmen and para-military organizations like Truth-Keepers (dottydo is a member). The Tea Party is the new Klan (aka Tea Klan)

Posted by: rcc_2000 | July 3, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

This is not news. The NYT-CBS Tea Party poll from several months ago revealed that Tea Partiers were far more likely than the general population to have a favorable view of George W. Bush's presidency. That's the same President Bush who turned a huge surplus into a huge deficit -- something that the Tea Partiers didn't seem to complain about while it was happening. So this isn't about principle; it's about politics, i.e., a frustrated group of conservatives who are peeved that "their team" has fared poorly during that past few election cycles.

But polling indicates big GOP gains in the fall. It appears that it takes two short years for the voting public to forget who drove the country into the ditch.

Posted by: terminator_x | July 3, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

why is every story about anger, and "we're not going to take it anymore..." etc...always about the Tea Party". MSM acts like all of those first time voters that voted for Obama, discovered the power of their vote and their $20 donation, are asleep and haven't noticed how a candidate for the RNC Head put out the derogatory Barack the Magic Negro cd, or noticed the disgusting and historically frightening images evoked at some of these rallies? The GOP lawmakers disrespectful treatment of the Prez, along with the continual racist crap from southern state GOP lawmakers like the one comparing the escaped ape to FLOTUS'S ancestor's. The constant battle waged in Congress to extend unemployment benifits, which the GOP wants to deny.(Reminds me of the conservative viewpoint during FDR's presidency, they think the Federal government has no place keeping people from starving). So just about every post of Cillizza's ignores the Dem base, and how they might be angry at the constant crap from the GOP/TPer's. But that's okay, November will show them, then guys like the FIX will be where did I go so wrong??? And then I'll say you went wrong when you ignored an entire half of the voting population...I'll never forget the disgusting speech that Bush gave at the '08 RNC, saying dismissively ... "The angry left..." he was so dismissive of half of the citizens he was supposed to be serving, big surprise...

Posted by: katem1 | July 3, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Ketem1, take a history class. When millions of people were starving in the 1930's, the federal government slaughtered over 1 million pigs. Do you know why? To help pig farmers by decreasing supply of pork so that prices would go up. They did the same thing for cotton farmers (burning hundreds of thousands of acres of cotton) to drive the cost of cotton, and clothing, up. I guess that makes sense if you think the government should "stimulate" the economy. However, it seems strange that the government would reduce the food and clothing supply in an attempt to inflate prices when people were starving and having trouble finding shelter and clothing their children. My father was starving during the Depression, and he would have welcomed access to just one of those pigs. However, the government didn't allow it.

To many Tea Party people Republicrats are the problem; one statist set of ideals. If you don't understand that, look at how the state of Wisconsin proudly nullified the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850. They used Nullification in DEFENSE of blacks who had escaped slavery. Why do you think that the liberals, progressives and neo-cons all rail against Nullification? They all are statists, wanting total federal control. They lie and say that Nullification was used to promote slavery, but in fact, a vast majority of Nullification actions defended personal liberty.

How can the "democratic base" be so oblivious to this? The "democratic base" should listen to the arguments and find where they have similar ideals. Don't listen to Sarah Palin, she represents the neo-cons among the Tea Party and they don't understand the point. If you listen to the Ron Paul supporters, however, I would guess that you will find a much greater overlap of ideals than you apparently realize.

It isn't the job of the Tea Party people to align with the "Democrat" or "Republican" parties. It is the job of the voters to find out what the arguments are and determine if they have merit. Now, because so much has changed in both the "liberal" and "conservative" parties, the Libertarians are again standing up for these against both sides. If you would actually listen to the concerns of Tea Party attendees, you may learn that you have some allies you never would have thought of before (you will also find that imposters like sarah palin try to hijack it). Freedom allows this to occur. Set aside your differences and start making a collective argument.

It is a principled argument people, you would do well to listen.

Posted by: chmst1999 | July 3, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

The poor teabaggers are throwing all they've got at Dionne today!

And it ain't much.

Posted by: binkynh
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The poor libturds are drinking their kool aid and like the lemmings they are, are moving closer to the cliff come November. Say Bub bye.

Posted by: elcigaro1 | July 3, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Dionne says:
"Last April, I argued that “both major parties stand to lose if they accept the laughable notion that this media-created protest movement is the voice of true populism."

Excuse me? The majority of the "media" has been fervently attacking the tea party (yourself included Dionne) since its inception.

The small percentage of non-liberal media who reported on the grass-roots movement simply publicized its existence, they did not "create" it.

Get your facts straight.

Posted by: spamsux1 | July 3, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Too many people posting above are believers in the falsehood....IF you believe it will come true it does.

Bellyaching about the Tea Party is akin to bellyaching about the weather...there ain't anything an individual can do about it.

The tea party is nothing more than a SPLIT in the Republicans ideology, a split that they can ill afford.

Posted by: misterfids | July 3, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Why is it a suprise that Tea baggers are Republicans? If some of them feel differently then they will be surprised, themselves, to find that GOP is capitalizing on their unfocused anger to further its division agenda of this country's citizens.

Posted by: Single_Payer | July 3, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Why is it a surprise that Tea baggers are Republicans? If some of them feel differently then they will be surprised, themselves, to find that GOP is capitalizing on their unfocused anger to further its division agenda of this country's citizens.

Posted by: Single_Payer | July 3, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

It is hardly a surprise that Tea Baggers are Republican. But if any of the Tea Baggers feels differently then they will be themselves in a shock to find that the GOP is capitalizing on their dumb and unfocused anger to further its agenda of dividing the country.

Posted by: Single_Payer | July 3, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Sorry about the repitition. My screen was not responding.

Posted by: Single_Payer | July 3, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Image the reaction if the Black Panther party was reconstituted and started walking around with guns at rallies as those of the tea Party are doing?

The country is going through a corporate led movement that is creating artificial wealth mostly at the top, aided by Wall Street with the outsourcing of jobs coupled with cheap illegal workers coming in resulting in the gutting of the middle class. Those in the media which get their revenue from these same corporate entities are naturally sympathetic to the corporate interest rather than Main Street.

The corporate masters of the Republicans want to keep illegals coming in, so they organized the Tea party to rail against it and gain republican votes.

Tea party members: please answer this question. When congress gives you a tax cut and instead of creating jobs in this country, you create products such as the I-phone and manufacture them in China, how is that helping America? Also, where is the money going to come from since you want taxes cut to protect US companies here and across the globe provided by the US military?

The Tea Party anger is misdirected in my opinion. The Party should be angry with the Republicans who started two wars, ran up the deficit and allowed multinationals to outsource all the jobs.

President Obama is just trying to clean up the awful mess that President Bush left behind. Having a Tea Party lets the Republicans off the hook and misdirects the anger to the current President and the Democrats.

Some voters are not smart enough to see that they are being conned!

Posted by: culpeperson | July 3, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm shocked! Shocked!

A wolf in sheep's clothing .... why, a blind man could see it in a minute, a deaf man could hear it in three seconds; a dead man could recognize it instantly ... .

Posted by: hogsmile | July 4, 2010 12:33 AM | Report abuse

If the Tea Party movement is as kooky and irrelevant as the Flat Earth Society why does the MSM waste so much paper, airtime and bandwidth going on about them ad nauseum?

Let's have no more talk of this Tea Party businees.

More hagiographies about Dear Leader please!

Posted by: Bjartur | July 4, 2010 2:08 AM | Report abuse

Dionne,

Once again you have proven you don't know JACK!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jimbo77 | July 4, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Everyone knows that Teabaggers are just old racist Republicans on Social Security and Medicare who scream about socialism because there's a black Democrat in the White House. Period.

And don't you dare touch their Social Security and Medicare, when they say "socialism" they mean "giving the white man's money to lazy n!ggers."

Posted by: ottoparts | July 4, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

withersb -

people like you are a waste of good air. you don't know anything about the variety of conservatives in this country. all you do know is that it's convenient to call all of us names. i have regular conversations with moderates and liberals that i know; we debate issues, rarely change each other's mind, but always approach with intellect and some decent understanding of the issues. i don't call them names. grow up, pal, you can do it....

Posted by: subframer | July 4, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

if 90% of all college professors are Democrats, what does that say about republicans ???

90% of the smartest people in the country are liberal

10% of the smartest people in the country are conservative

smart people choose the Democratic Party, by a ration of 9 to 1

the alternative is that dumb people choose the republican party

I don't call them repuglootards for nothing

Posted by: nada85484 | July 4, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Dionne I can remember when and your liberal fans were blowing off the tea party as a passing fad. I think that even you, now have to agree that it is more than a passing fad, and yes it is mostly a conservative movement. The tea party has become a huge factor within the republican frame work. By the end of the year the tea party will probably up root some of the long term senators and house members. The offshoot here is that it will bring more life to the party and reduce the amount of group think. New ideas are the driving force for our country and people who keep voting in the same ole people are doing the nation a big disservice. To me some of the candidates that really need to move on are people like John McCain, (a very week kneed republican) Thad Cochran, (a man who could never turn down an earmark) Chris Dodd, (ops he is already leaving) Chuck Schumer, (he needs to be leaving) and numerous other hanger rounders.

Posted by: gava2 | July 5, 2010 2:07 AM | Report abuse

What seems odd to me is that today's Gallup poll article on the Tea Partiers lists their top concern as the federal debt, but it is clearly and without doubt George Bush who drove us deeply into this debt. If you doubt this, go to this US Treasury webpage regarding the simple numbers of our debt: http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm
Why support a guy (Bush) and a party (Republican) that put us in this deep debt and then have that same debt be your main rallying cry? Self-hatred??

Posted by: eatinglowonthefoodchain | July 5, 2010 6:53 AM | Report abuse

To jfv123, after complaining that Obama does not add jobs, guess you forgot the Republican control of the House, Senate and Presidency when we lost MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of jobs! Guess you were asleep at that time! Hack.....

Posted by: ginger470132 | July 5, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

What's tragic about the Tea Party is that so much of the movement is founded on false information.
Obama not born here
Obama a Muslim
Death Panels in Health Care Reform
Middle Class Tax increases.

And actually not one of those above mentioned statements is true yet Tea Partiers (who used to call themselves Tea Baggers)believe those false statements. This creates an artificial hatred of Obama.

What really amazes me though is that one of the people who commented earlier gave this garbage about Obama and 10 percent of job creators. He said that Obama hasn't created any jobs and conservatives can create jobs.
Facts: Conservatives are terrible at creating jobs. Obama created more jobs in less than 2 years than Bush in 8 years.

Facts facts fact.

Posted by: EricFutterman | July 5, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Dionne your an idiot! No, I take that back. A liberal, head in the sand idiot.

Posted by: havetheylostitorwhat | July 5, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Since the T.P. tantrums of last summer, I've been observing tea party people to figure out where all that pure hatred and vitriol came from. Seems to me that it's a backlash movement (highly energized angry people six months after the election of Obama -- before he'd had a chance to make them THAT angry). They carried signs clearly showing their fear and paranoia -- Obama is the Joker, Obama is Hitler, Obama is Scary!

No fairness, no fair-mindedness, no simmering . . . but tantrums. It struck me as more fear than actual anger at anything. They were AFRAID of the new President. None of the characterizations made any sense, since Obama hadn't had time to really scare them that much. He'd also been extremely moderate in his approach to health care -- hence the the anger on the Left! He presented himself as nothing so much as calm, rational, conciliatory, hopeful, "professorial" and patient. Just like the campaign, by the way, so it can hardly be a surprise. But the frightened (mostly old) people of the tea party saw him--with no evidence-- as a witch doctor, Hitler, the Joker (really scary), and King George.

There's only one conclusion one can draw (just from observing), and it's that these fearful folks rose up in one massive backlash.

They didn't win the fairly fought, Constitutionally mandated election. They didn't like the peaceful transfer of power. They wanted to overturn that election.

In other words, these folks branded themselves "Tea Party Patriots", but they were (and are) anything but.

Posted by: cturtle1 | July 5, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Aw, but you miss a very important point....before they are Conservatives, or Republicans, they are Americans. Registered to Vote. Educating themselves on the Constitution, the Federalist Papers, the missing Founding Fathers (and Mothers) - all the things deliberately left out of our Public Education for the last, oh let's say, 80 to 100 years. Among them are, gasp, folks who voted for Obama out of their desire to really enter a "post racial era" in this country only to have buyers remorse as they once again realized that elections have consequences and politicians (and the media) have political agendas that matter more than a simple telling of the truth of where a politician really stands.

I always find it quite amusing when our media folks write article after article demeaning the Tea Party Movement but never writes one word about Organizing For American - led by Obama and Biden and his spokes people...encouraging letters to the editors, faxes to the senators, and front porch indoctrination of neighbors.

The media can continue to say that the Tea Party members are "just Republicans".....can continue to underestimate the power of the public library, Amazon, and Barnes and Noble and the internet in the education of just how far the progressive movement has led our country from its roots and its real history and underestimate how those folks are learning to disregard the "sound bite" and understand the "context"......go right ahead....after all, they're just mostly Republicans.

Posted by: LMW6 | July 5, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

That is not true. The tea party is made up of kinds of people, not just Republicans. The left is on a path to demonize the tea party because they are scared about the upcoming elections. They know America is fed up with Obama and his far left Congress with their agenda that most Americans don't agree with. The tea party reflects the true feelings of the majority of Americans. They just are not silent anymore.
The left is so scared they have been planting kooks at tea party demonstations to try and taint them.

Posted by: joanz3 | July 5, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Amusing, the response the TPers get from the left. You'd think there was no corruption in Washington.

Posted by: crawlars | July 5, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Given the choice between two political parties, would it surprise you that liberals, progressives, communists and socialists are always DEMOCRATS?

Ick.

Posted by: mlemac | July 5, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Remember Freedom Works originally headed by Dick Armey, repub Texas ex-congressman. Right out of public office went to work for the lobbyist firm that created Freedom Works that paid people to harass congressmen at their sessions with constituents to shout down anyone who disagreed with the shouters aims. Thus was the "tea party" started. Some bottom line movement.

Dressed in red t-shirts I attended a meeting that my congressman (Republican) and all I heard was hate filled yelling and repub solutions (No). Left after the birthers started in.

Posted by: wallyb | July 5, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

China and some other nations have govts that support their people’s efforts to get ahead and people support those govts. Here we have a substantial % of people who want to run around on their own with little or no govt. Who do you think will win in the end? Do you think a bunch of spoiled tantrum throwing fools can beat the New England Patriots? America working hard to be the intentional loser nation.

Posted by: frankleewright | July 6, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

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