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Enhancing the dishonesty on Obama's religion

I admit it -- I gave Ann Coulter a page view this morning, and for that, I'm sorry. I was browsing one of my aggregators, when I scanned her headline today: "Obama is not a Muslim." I thought Coulter sympathized with the cranky fifth of the country that believes the president is Muslim -- isn't that the slice of America that feels she has anything useful to say?

The first line was even more promising: "The nonsense about President Obama being a Muslim has got to stop."

Had persistent reality finally breached Coulter's firewall? Only, it turns out, insomuch as it allowed her to make another dishonest point:

I rise to defend him from this absurd accusation by pointing out that he is obviously an atheist.

Leave aside Obama's fanatical opposition to allowing Illinois hospitals to save the lives of babies with God-given souls inadvertently born alive during abortions. Also leave aside the fact that neither of his parents were Christians. And leave aside his current crop of "spiritual advisers," which is a collection of Mother Earth worshippers, polytheists and other nonbelievers.

Sounds like a barbeque at my folks' place.

First I checked to make sure a petty demon hadn’t transported me to Inquisition-era Spain. (Nonbelievers? Really? Didn’t they already fight some kind of Thirty Years' War about that?). Then I got mad.

Coulter is trying to make baseless attacks on Obama’s religious beliefs more intellectually consistent with claims that the president is a secular socialist, a view that never worked with the he-wants-to-impose-Sharia line. Her unified theory of Obama, of course, isn't any more true; just like others expressing doubts about the president’s repeatedly-expressed faith, she has nothing but wishful thinking and vague aspersion for evidence. But she’s making the untruth better, making it sound more plausible, strengthening the intimation that Obama is a dangerous outsider by making it less internally contradictory. In a way, that's more pernicious.

By Stephen Stromberg  | September 2, 2010; 12:59 PM ET
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Religion is a personal matter. During the Spanish colonization the natives were given no other option than convert or die. So, for generations, many natives were officially Christian but in their intimity they whorshiped the former gods. If young Obama wanted to have a position in US politics it is normal that he could not present himself as a Muslim, it would have not worked well for him. I am not saying that he is a Muslim or not, I say that we will never have access to his intim feelings, so we must judge him by his deeds

Posted by: edurep | September 2, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Ann Coulter is a professional right-wing bomb-thrower, who surfaces every so often to flog whatever new "liberals are unpatriotic weasels, and worse than child molesters" tome she's written. Though she managed to tap into some of the same misplaced anger that Glenn Beck is now playing like a violin, and earlier than he did, she's never found a way to profit from it nearly as handsomely as he has, though I'm sure she still makes a pretty good living at it. In short, she's someone to be roundly ignored.

Posted by: bienefes | September 2, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Even liberal commentators on last Sundays network shows felt Obama should go to church on Sundays instead of playing golf. They get it.

Why do ONLY less than half of Democrats (according to Pew) think Obama is a Christian ?

Maybe its his non-Muslim upbringing ? his Muslim father ? his visit to Cairo not Jeruselem ? His campaign site statement that America is NOT a Christian nation ? His Cairo speech declaring America a Muslim nation ? His defence of the VICTORY mosque in New York ?

Even most Democrats - his own supporters are confused !!

Posted by: Petras123 | September 2, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

So Ann Coulter thinks Obama is an atheist ?

Given that Pew finds less than half of Dems think Obama is a Christian.. a very large number of Dems probably agree with Ann.

I actually side with Glenn Beck, who thinks Obama is a Christian.

Beck says: "People aren't recognizing his version of Christianity..."

Beck provided the first reasonable explanation why millions of Americans are confused...

Beck explained that Obama follows the "liberation theology Christianity" of his 20-year mentor Rev. Wright.

Beck correctly identifies Obama's world view of victim/oppressor that guides Obama's foreign policy.

Obama is a student of black liberation theology Christianity... his support for Muslims simply a compatible victim/oppressor motif.

Yes Americans are confused... Obama is being judged by his actions not his color.

Posted by: Petras123 | September 2, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

After twenty years in Rev Wright's church, Rober Gibbs says that Obama is NOT a follower of liberation theology. When did Obama renounce his beliefs?

'Asked about Glenn Beck's accusation that President Obama follows "liberation theology," Gibbs says: "People are entitled to their own opinion, as ill informed as it may be. But they're not entitled to their own facts." '

Posted by: kitchendragon50 | September 2, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

In Ann Coulter's world you must provide evidence of your beliefs. You must sign into Church, proclaim (in contrast to the teachings of Jesus) your faith in public lest you be accused of being an infidel. We all know the penalty for being an infidel, don't we?

Does she want a Committee to register the faithful? Sounds like a "religious test" for holding office, something expressly forbidden by The Constitution. In her world Patriotism is demonstrated by the wearing of pins and the flying of banners, not by actions taken to serve your community.

Her world is a world of Fear, Hatred, Distortion, and Division.

Posted by: thebobbob | September 2, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Wow Petras, looks like you have all the points down pat.

Not to debunk everything you posted, which wouldn't be tough at all, but I'd like to point out that the quote "America is not a Christian nation" never happened.

The quote was "America is no longer JUST a Christian nation". Go ahead, look it up. See how omitting that one word makes a big difference? Of course you do, that's why you continue to spread the lie by leaving that word out.

It's all you have. Lies and scary words like Muslim and socialist.

By the way, you're a lousy Christian and your God knows you're lying and judging people by perpetuating the lies. Good luck with that afterlife you're working so hard on.....

Posted by: steve-2304 | September 2, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

This would probably die if you and the other OpEd writers would just let it or if you would just state the facts. It is true his mother was not particularly religious and his father was Muslim. He did attend a Muslim school during his very early years, but then he was a very young boy and I doubt no matter how intelligent he was that he seriously delved into his religious beliefs. His adult life is different. He was a member of a Black Liberation Church in Chicago IL for over 10 years so one can only assume that his religion is a variation of Christianity as practiced by those who read and accept James Cone's writtings. Today President Obama has chosen not to practice his religion with an organized site, he seldom attends church. But that does not mean he is not a Christian it just means that he and his wife have made the decision to worship at home or to worship in a different way. The only real problem he faces is that he lives in a fish bowl and everyone expects him to go to church, even Clinton went to church in spite of his other activities. So living in a time when secular liberals are doing as much as they can through our government to force religion out of everyday life it worries people when the President of the U.S. seems not to be too concerned with actively practicing some religion. His father's religion will always haunt him given the World condition. So just get over it and take your own advise and ignore those that question Obama's beliefs. Accept him for what he is and measure him by his daily actions. Nothing else matters.

Posted by: staterighter | September 2, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I would think the fact that Obama doesn't attend church would be a strong selling point for the progressive Dems, considering they classify religion as backwards and primitive. Maybe we're asking the wrong questions.

Posted by: jackieRo | September 2, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

It would be wonderful if Obama had no religion. God has done enough damage. Don't we have some hungry lions that like skanky fake blonds?

Posted by: fare777 | September 2, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

It would be wonderful if Obama had no religion. God has done enough damage. Don't we have some hungry lions that like skanky fake blonds?

Posted by: fare777 | September 2, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

It's barbaric that in 2010 anyone cares about Obama's religion. The only question about his morality should be: "Is he a good person with good intentions?". That's it. My 8 year old daughter can understands this.

I don't know of any religion that doesn't have a shameful period in it's past or present. Religion may be good for some people. But it's never good for people who seek to impose their beliefs on others. Coulter is not a good person with good intentions. Why would anyone look to her for anything?

Posted by: rramos01 | September 2, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

This is just so special,

To see exactly how the Rabid Right Wing evolves thier "truths" and their "realities". They feed off of misinformation and lies like a jackle feeds off a rotting dead dear carcas.

They just manipulate one lie into another lie because they see it can be more slanderous. What is amazing is that they can then with a straight face turn around and call themselves God fearing Christians after acting as decitful, hateful and dishonest as they can.

The Rabid Right Wing is a disaster, and if America wants to listen to their lies, ad believe their lies, then merica is showing itself to be deserving of the disaster that Conservatism has brought upon this country. The disaster that is our economy, our debt, and our corporatism that has shipped our jobs overseas.


Posted by: thecontributist | September 2, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

For Beck and Coulter lies are their currency, and their followers hoard it like gold. Just read his followers’ comments on this site http://wp.me/pNmlT-mI which is critical of Beck and his rally. They are cult like in their blind adherence to the Beck doctrine, and this despite the fact that for some, like the Tea Party, Beck's worldview contradicts their core belief in the Founding Father’s who believed strongly in the separation of church and state! Their commentary provides all reasonable Americans with a stark reminder that unless we stand strong against demagogues like Beck and the type of movement he and the Tea Party represents, then the future of our Nation and our Democracy are in grave, grave danger

Posted by: Dh1953 | September 2, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Yes Americans are confused... Obama is being judged by his actions not his color.

Posted by: Petras123

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That's right, and no matter how many times liberals use the race card it won't change this basic fact.

Posted by: bbface21 | September 2, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Ann Coulter is crazy and over-the-top 95% of the time - this time she hit the nail on the head.

It all about false colors and honesty or lack thereof. Someone observed he would do anything to get elected. Obama is arrogant, aloof, cold - so proud of his degree and alma mater. Why should we trust him to be honest about his faith or lack thereof?

He is a master of deceit.

Posted by: alance | September 2, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

The hate-mongering of self- declared "Christians" is decidedly unChristian. Regardless of religious affiliation or political party, we owe one another civility, respect, and even the benefit of the doubt. Aside from the damage such language and behavior do to the individual's own character, hypocrisy hurts us all as a nation, just as it drags down our shared humanity.

The nastiness, mean-spiritedness, libel, and slander that often characterize the comments posted here, befoul us all, win no converts (fortunately), change no mind for the better; on the contrary, they destroy the credibility of the poster. Who wants to listen to vitriol unless to gratify his own vicious proclivities? If you don't like vituperationt directed at those you believe in and respect, don't dish it out. Disagree courteously, not disagreeably. Got it? Thanks.

Posted by: castleb | September 2, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

The hate-mongering of self- declared "Christians" is decidedly unChristian. Regardless of religious affiliation or political party, we owe one another civility, respect, and even the benefit of the doubt. Aside from the damage such language and behavior do to the individual's own character, hypocrisy hurts us all as a nation, just as it drags down our shared humanity.

The nastiness, mean-spiritedness, libel, and slander that often characterize the comments posted here, befoul us all, win no converts (fortunately), change no mind for the better; on the contrary, they destroy the credibility of the poster. Who wants to listen to vitriol unless to gratify his own vicious proclivities? If you don't like vituperationt directed at those you believe in and respect, don't dish it out. Disagree courteously, not disagreeably. Got it? Thanks.

Posted by: castleb | September 2, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Of course Obama is an atheist--doesn't bother me.

But Paris is worth a mass and he should really consider establishing a religious identity. By that I mean an outward and visible ceremonial practice. Obama is tone-deaf to religion and imagines that edifying remarks about his spiritual commitments and confabs with his team of spiritual advisors are what appeal to "People of Faith." This doesn't impress people. What they want is much simpler: just seeing the Obamas go to church. This isn't rocket science.

I suggest the National Cathedral, aka Washington Cathedral. This place is perceived as neutral. Do most Americans know what denomination it belongs to? How many Americans have heard of the Episcopal Church anyway? And I'd bet most Americans don't know its real name: to what saint is it dedicated?

It would be quite a neat thing if Obama, and his family, were confirmed at Washington Cathedral--closest thing we can get to a coronation, with anointing.

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Posted by: jackeyjing | September 3, 2010 2:25 AM | Report abuse

There has never been a president of my religion, yet I don't consider any of the presidents this country has had to be "outsiders" for having a different religion from my own.

Instead, I trust that the nation's Christian presidents, will make choices for this country that will not be offensive to people of my religion, just like millions upon millions of other nonChristian Americans must trust the president to make decisions not rooted in faith.

This is not a Christian nation, it's a nation of many faiths, and while Christians may be the most common, there are others living here too, so to try and prove that the president is some kind of outsider by convincing yourselves or others that Obama isn't a Christian is pretty offensive.

Although I accept that Obama is a Christian, what bloody difference would it possibly make if he wasn't? We of other faiths trust the president not to go on another Crusade, but Christians can't trust a Muslim not to impose mandatory prayer times or an Atheist president not to be advised by non-believing polytheists? (Not possible, if they have many gods, that implies belief in those gods)

The foolishness of the people spreading this and acting like it makes a bit of difference is shocking to me. After all these years people of other faiths have been tolerant of presidents beings Christian without exception (The religious affiliations page of Wikipedia actually lists the religions of presidents by Christian Denomination instead of by religion. No president has ever not been a Christian, though a couple have been nondenominational, and several have been for some reason accused of Atheism. Like it would be so terrible.)

No one looked at Obama and said, hmm, He's not white! Maybe they should stop looking at things that don't make any difference, and start looking at policy instead of looking at someone's personal preference in skin color, socioeconomic standing, and religion.

I'm a Buddhist. The president being Christian isn't that bothersome. However, the fact that if he WASN'T Christian that it would be a problem, gets under my skin, since EVERY president up to this point has been representative of a single religious view. Christians are 43-0 anyway, maybe it's time another religion had a turn. >=\

Posted by: PKemrin | September 3, 2010 3:49 AM | Report abuse

I'm actually glad the president and his family don't attend church regularly. Organized religion is a cancer to spirituality. Claiming "christianity" gives way to many people grace on their blatant hypocrisy and anti-christian antics.

Ghandi nailed it..."I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." Truer words have never been spoken.

Posted by: JilliB | September 3, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

I may be wrong about this, but I don't really recall George W Bush attending church on a regular basis. Most of his weekends were spent at his ranch and the local church didn't see him very often. I wish the right would be more honest in this particular condemnation of President Obama. I don't remember GWB being criticized by the right or the left for his poor church attendance.

Posted by: papawsteve3 | September 3, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I don't know if Obama is a Muslim, or not, but surely we have reason to wonder. It would not matter what he is, were he not appeasing the worst elements of this group, thus bringing lack of peace and security to this nation.

When the author of this article calls those who wonder "cranky filth," he is condemning them, and holding himself above a good part of the nation--people over whom I would doubt that he could claim any superiority! Is this what is to happen to a nation which prided itself in allowing freedom of opinion? If we are "filth" for thinking the President might be Muslim, it would figure that Mr. Stromber himself, considers Muslims to be filth as well. I know he didn't mean it that way, but he seems to be a very hateful man, with a big ax to grind, along with a giant-sized superiority complex, based upon ignorance!

Posted by: JKAREN96 | September 3, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

To begin with, Obama's father was not a Muslim, he was an atheist. So was his mother--she was a strictly secular humanist. His stepfather was Muslim, and the grandparents who mostly raised him were Christian. He himself was agnostic until he found Jesus in his 20's, and is now Christian. That is his background, if it matters to you. To me, it does not. I care what he does in office, the rest is dross.

Posted by: 1toughlady | September 3, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

One religion believes its founder died and then rose from the dead to cleanse us of our sins. Another believes that its founder was transported to heaven in a firey chariot. Any rational, educated 21st century person who believes either of these is true is delusional.

Posted by: newrussianguy | September 3, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Stop reporting on the "Obama is a Muslim" story!! It just enables the yahoos who say they believe it in the first place.

Posted by: LouisianaDoug | September 3, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

It's not hard to "enhance" lies when the people you are preaching to are not that bright in the first place.

Posted by: kenmcree | September 3, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

By their fruits, you will know them.

Posted by: rimallek | September 3, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Oh Lord, protect me from thy followers ...

Posted by: waynekelley | September 3, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Stephen,

Do you ever step back from the daily blog wars and wonder: Is this really what we've come to. Is this really what we're talking seriously about? How did the nut cases escape from their asylum and trap us in their looney bin instead? We've become so acultured to arguing whether the president of the United States is an alien, or wants to convert the country dto Shiara law or something equally strange, that we sometimes forget this is the kind of stuff we used to call "mental!"

Posted by: TedFrier | September 3, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Excuse me, JKaren.....The author of the column did not call you or your religion "the cranky FILTH". Read it again carefully.....he said "the cranky FIFTH" of the nation. There is a difference there and you would have noticed it, if you had not been so quick to see yourself as the poor, repressed christian whom everone wishes to discriminate against.

Posted by: david865 | September 3, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

to all,

fwiw, i do NOT care what religion that BHO claims to be/is BUT i DO care that he is a continual, KNOWING, remorse-LESS, LIAR.

he seems to believe in nothing except "getting ahead". - if tomorrow, 3% of Americans chose to engage in cannibalism, BHO would stoutly defend that practice as "just another acceptable life-style" & offer a book of White House recipes for preparing people for the table.

according to the Department of State of The Republic of Indonesia, BHO in 1981 swore before the (local equivilent of our US District) Court that:
1. he was a native-born citizen of Indonesia,
2. that he was a member of the Moslem faith
and
3. that he was the citizen of no other country & owed no allegience to any foreign power.

according to my source in the Indonesian embassy, their chief judge is ANGRY that Obama LIED to receive an Indonesian passport, solely to be able to travel to Pakistan.
(Americans at that time were barred from traveling to Pakistan.)

do i think that BHO was a citizen of Indonesia and/or a Moslem? ===> NO, i do NOT.
instead i simply believe that BHO thinks NO LIE that he tells has consequences, if they benefit HIM in some way and that he is WITHOUT conscience, morals or even common decency.

01-20-2012 cannot come soon enough to suit me.

just my opinion.

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | September 3, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

texasnative46......Of course you cannot tell us who "your source" is. Wait....it was Glenn Beck!!!!! We should have known!!!

Posted by: david865 | September 3, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Coulter's business model is based on maximizing the number of people she offends with any given utterance. How to do that with the Obama-is-a-Muslim meme? Not by agreeing with it -- she wouldn't even be heard over the noise. Simply attacking it as counterfactual would cause some small offense to its adherents, but not enough to make it worth her trouble -- and besides, it's too wimpy a position for her.

So she invents a new meme that's offensive to *both* sides. Now *that* is creative trolling. I almost admire her.

Posted by: isaac32767 | September 3, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Whoever thought the wonderful invention of the internet would serve the purpose of spreading lies by extreme right wingers about a US President and members of Democratic Presidents wives. It does not matter what church home he chooses or does not chooses it will be criticized if it is necessary to lie to do it. Such nonsense that he swore to the Republic of Indonesia that he was a Muslim. He was a child when he was there and he swore nothing to them. There are multiple, bad forgeries of a Kenyan birth certificate; you can buy them. The degradation of the political right seems to know no bounds. Even religion is no longer sacred.

Posted by: withersb | September 3, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why they have the notion that a President has to be from a particular religion.
Where in the constitution says that the President has to belong to a church or that he/she has to attend church every Sunday?
It is clear that they doing this to Obama, because they don't have any thing else to talk about.

Posted by: coquiisla | September 3, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

In her article, Ms. Coulter calls the President an atheist because he went to a church headed by Rev. Wright. Where I come from that's called "guilt by association."

Overall, there isn't all that much internal consistency in the article. It's the same old poison.

Posted by: Breells | September 3, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

This country needs to get over it's obssession with religion. There is no god, and coulter is a bitter, twisted woman. If you believe, fine. But, mind your own business.

Posted by: jckdoors | September 3, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Neither Ann Coulter, nor any of the Tea Baggers, nor the Republicans can say ANYTHING bad about President Obama.

So then, all they have left is lies, and they love to lie and misinform and Demagogue all day long, 24 hours a day.

Posted by: lindalovejones | September 3, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

So what proof do you offer that he isnt a Muslim ? We're still waiting to hear it....

Posted by: JUNGLEJIM123 | September 3, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Dear Texasnative46: like all of Ann Coulter's, Glenn Beck's, and Rush Limbaugh's followers aka dittoheads, you believe, as they do (and as Josef Goebbels did), that all you have to do is keep telling a lie over and over again and a large portion of the illiterate and uneducated public will believe you and even, as you have done, embellish the original lie with some more untruths. See the following snopes.com article that completely destroys all of your theory: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp Of course, I doubt you will go look this up because then you would be confronted with the truth, and the truth does not fit your plans so conveniently, does it?

Posted by: weedtort | September 3, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

And what proof do you have, JungleJim123 that Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, or Ann Coulter are Christians? (as if it really matters?) Have you ever actually seen either of the 3 stepping into a Christian Church? Beck is not a Christian according to most Evangelical "Christians": rather, he is a member of a dangerous "cult" as far as they are concerned. So, why are you listening to anything he has to say? Tell me what Church Ann Coulter or Rush Limbaugh attend each Sunday, please? And when you are done, please tell me why it matters one whit, too?

Posted by: weedtort | September 3, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

So all these staunch defenders of the Constitution don't give a damn that it declares there will be no religious test for any federal office?

Posted by: ColleenHarper | September 3, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Pious Mormons envision a world order and a world church. The church owns income property and some of its members are in politics. Prayer seems a natural way to attempt to bring solidarity to people from diverse backgrounds at a political convention. Mormons are Christian fundamentalist and like other religious fundamentalist (Muslims) they wish to subdue the world's religions and people. This could only be achieved through political participation and proselytizing new members of their faith. That might lead to forming unions of political parties and states or bring the world down for their piety.

Posted by: byetheway77 | September 3, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

What Barack Obama believes in is Barack Obama

There is a growing national perception that a fissure of hubris runs through the character and personality of the current president.

An indication of this is a fast increasing awareness of the fact that Barack Obama continues to conceal virtually the entire paper trail of his existence in a deep shroud of secrecy.

The current president's original typewritten long form birth certificate, school records, SAT and LSAT scores, college and law school admission records and grade transcripts and thesis papers, medical records, passport history and other relevant records and documents have all never been released or allowed to be subjected to any sort of scrutiny, despite several years of repeated requests for disclosure by numerous individuals and non-traditional media organizations.

The Obama 2008 campaign and subsequent administration have to date spent a considerable sum of money, estimated in the millions of dollars, to fight Freedom of Information Act filings and other requests to examine this material.

This comprehensive degree of secrecy is unprecedented in modern American political history. Ever presidential candidate since Thomas Dewey in 1948 has willingly released such records and documents upon serious request, in some instances directly to the campaigns of their rivals, thus acknowledging that the process of running for president should be the toughest job interview on the planet. Barack Obama is the sole exception.

A computer generated laser printed short form version of a birth certificate that a child could have forged was posted on the Obama 2008 campaign website, but this only served to intensify the filings and requests to see the original typewritten long form document. They also produced a one page letter from a physician attesting that Barack Obama was in excellent health for a man of his age. This has been the complete extent of any release or disclosure of any records or documents from the current president's past life. Virtually his entire paper trail remains deeply hidden away.

The mainstream media has given Barack Obama a remarkable free pass on this basic issue of personal transparency and accountability. It has become customary in modern times for presidential candidates to allow for the release and scrutiny of the substantive body of the records and documents from their past, indeed up until 2008 in large measure precisely because of a strong mainstream media interest. It is entirely appropriate to consider why Barack Obama has received such a special exception from this time-honored practice. In their eagerness to "make history" by covering the campaign of the man whom they were clearly interested in helping to become the first black president, the mainstream media failed in their primary national responsibility, namely to report on significant events with thoroughness and objectivity.

What is being hidden and why are they hiding it?

Posted by: FlashHarry | September 4, 2010 4:34 AM | Report abuse

Why does this even matter? It didn't seem to matter when he was elected. I really do not care what Religion he is as long as it isn't one that wants to kill all infidels. America is not the place for insane beliefs. People like their heads attached to their shoulders. Remember, you get what you vote for!

Posted by: sambird | September 4, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

The economy may be struggling, but these are BOOM times for propagandists! Between Coulter with her zany books and kooky assertations, Fox "News" and the daily lie factory that is, and the steady drone of AM Hate Radio, led by the stalwart Rush Limbaugh, sword drawn, dashing headlong into the Dark Ages, this country is being fed a bunch of propaganda morning, noon and night. Josef Goebbels, wherever his sleazy soul resides, must be smiling....

Posted by: squirebass | September 4, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

There's only one reason there's still any questions about Obama, it's the terrible vetting job the sycophant media did during the election.

The press was so terrible, Obama had to go on Fox News and do a Q & A with a real reporter, Major Garrett, to try and get the questions answered about Reverend Wright. His problem was he fudged the truth, during that interview and questions remained.

Everyone agrees that the Obama who ran for election, and the one we have now, are 2 different people. Yesterday, Ann Kornblut had an article on the White House trying to come up with some stimulus before the election. If you read the article, it's a joke. Elmendorf's comment is classic, what conservatives always think about liberals, yet it's in the article. I wonder if Kornblut was trying to show the confusion inside the White House or she thought she was writing a sympathetic article. It's pretty bad.

I read the Ann Coulter commentary and you scrupulously avoid answering the questions she poses.

Remember Hillary's comment to General Patraeus about straining credibility? Does anyone, at the Washington Post, feel that President Obama strained credibility when he said he sat in Reverend Wright's church for 20 years and never heard any of that? If Democrats are sitting there with a smirk on their face and winking at each other, this is what happens with an answer like that.

I have a little bet for you, Mr. Stromberg, Obama will have to give a much better answer to that question, if he wants to get re-elected. Wanna bet?

Posted by: bflat879 | September 4, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

It has been so clear for so many years that Ann Coulter is evil personified. How she is able to look at herself in the mirror is stupifying.

Posted by: gilbertpb40 | September 4, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Odd how the Left is hysterical over the notion that Obama might not be a Christian. Equally odd is their hysteria over what others may say about Obama not being a Christian.

However, the man has not been to Church since he left the racist Wright's Church.

Be that as it may, what do you expect when the best the White House comes up with is Gibbs saying, "He prays every day." Notice there was no mention about to whom he prays so one is still left wondering if he prays to God or Allah.

Besides the fact that if he is a Muslim or has far stronger Muslim tendancies than Christian ones, then he lied to us, which is bad, but beyond that, what is so awful about being a Muslim?

It is not as if he is being accused of being a Morman, after all, which is a bit of religious bigotry that the Left loves to both ignore as bigotry and play into at every opportunity.

Posted by: kctaz | September 4, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

It has been so clear for so many years that Ann Coulter is evil personified. How she is able to look at herself in the mirror is stupifying.

Posted by: gilbertpb40 | September 4, 2010 10:13 AM |

You really need to do some serious studying of history if you think that Ann Coulter is "evil personified". She disagrees with you. It is her right under the First Amendment. That's all.

Many people have died to give you and her the right to disagree with each other. Evil personified is when someone will kill or jail you for disagreeing. The first step such people take, today and throughout history, is to define those who disagree with them as evil. Be grateful you have truly never experienced evil personified. You would not be alive today if you had.

Posted by: kctaz | September 4, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

By the way, you have noticed that it is the MSM and Gibbs and Obama's apologists who keep claiming he is Christian? Obama himself will not come out and say, "I am a Christian". I find that odd as I do not know a single Christian who will not so state, nor a Jew who will not state he is a Jew and so on.

What is Obama's problem with this statement? Really, just wondering?

Posted by: kctaz | September 4, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

My grandparents were Christians in Northern Ireland. She was Protestant, and he was Catholic. They had to flee after death threats. I volunteered and joined the Army, and I served as an 11B Infantryman. Most of my time in the field was in squad or platoon size operations. We would have discussions about what we were fighting for. It always came back to the “Bill of Rights”. To me the most important was “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”
What did our Founding Fathers have to say about religion:
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god." - Thomas Jefferson (letter to Peter Carr, 10 August 1787):
"All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason;
"Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.", John Madison;
“Lighthouses are more helpful than Churches”, Benjamin Franklin
I volunteered and joined the Army, and I served as an 11B Infantryman. Most of my time in the field was in squad or platoon size operations. We would have discussions about what we were fighting for. It always came back to the “Bill of Rights”. To me the most important was “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”

Posted by: lynnlm | September 5, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

My grandparents were Christians in Northern Ireland. She was Protestant, and he was Catholic. They had to flee after death threats. I volunteered and joined the Army, and I served as an 11B Infantryman. Most of my time in the field was in squad or platoon size operations. We would have discussions about what we were fighting for. It always came back to the “Bill of Rights”. To me the most important was “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”
What did our Founding Fathers have to say about religion:
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god." - Thomas Jefferson (letter to Peter Carr, 10 August 1787):
"All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason;
"Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.", John Madison;
“Lighthouses are more helpful than Churches”, Benjamin Franklin

Posted by: lynnlm | September 5, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

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