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The Tea Party: From rebellion to absurdity

WILMINGTON, Del. – The primary here today will determine definitively whether the Tea Party is capable of carrying its rebellion to a truly absurd extreme.

Want to know how angry the state’s Republican leaders are at the campaign of Christine O’Donnell, the perennial candidate who is threatening Rep. Mike Castle in the U.S. Senate race? Here’s what Delaware Republican Party chairman Tom Ross told me last night:

I could buy a parrot and train it to say, ‘tax cuts,’ but at the end of the day, it’s still a parrot, not a conservative.

That, so far, is my favorite line of this election season.

Ross is furious because O’Donnell had no credibility as a candidate until the Tea Party Express, a California-based group, decided to target Castle, a genuine moderate who represents the last vestiges of what was once a thriving and honorable wing of Republicanism. Oh yes, and she also got the endorsements of Sarah Palin and Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.). DeMint is determined to purge his party of anyone with the nerve to be – well, even a moderate conservative.

Ross notes that the state Republican convention endorsed Castle. These are not some shadowy party bosses, but, as he put it, “the grass-roots delegates who knock on the doors and pass out the literature and pound the pavements.”

Ross says he thinks it’s pretty nervy for “some group in Sacramento that doesn’t know our state to come here, destroy our civility, and tell the people of Delaware they know more about our state than we know.”

What’s interesting here is the notion that for all its grass-rootsy talk, the Tea Party is a nationally led and nationally directed movement that is willing to run roughshod over local Republican parties if it finds them to be less than ideologically pure.

The real question will be turnout. Celia Cohen, the political writer for the Delaware Grapevine Web site, notes that turnout in the 2008 Republican primary was 29,000 and it was only 14,000 in 2006. To win, Castle needs something closer to the 2008 turnout, and probably more, since the hard right is almost certain to show up.

The fact that it’s a closed primary deprives Castle of the votes of the many independents and Democrats who have always liked him. Castle’s campaign hopes enough Republicans now understand the political threat to their popular former governor that they’ll show up. The race hangs on whether that’s right.

Few races this year have been more clear-cut on the matter of electability: The polls demonstrate that Castle would be the favorite against a rather strong Democratic candidate, New Castle county executive Chris Coons. By nominating O’Donnell, the Republicans would hand Coons and the Democrats the seat.

Castle, at least, is not in the least bit complacent. “The Tea Party Express, which claims it’s not a political party, is in reality a pretty good political operation,” he said in an interview last night. “This is a more sophisticated political operation than they’ve been given credit for.”

He adds that what’s happening here “goes way beyond this election” -- and that’s entirely true. Democrats may be rooting for O’Donnell because they need all the Senate seats they can get this year. But my hunch is that a lot of them would quietly mourn if Castle, a guy of old-fashioned decency, were to lose. If there is no longer any room for him and people like him in the GOP, it will be the clearest sign yet of a party that has decided to go off the edge.

By E.J. Dionne  | September 14, 2010; 9:35 AM ET
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Cull the herd of the rational thinkers.


Purfiy the party to extremism.


Alienate the Independents that can actually get us elected to office - who needs them right?


Concoct as many conspiracy theories as we can as to build fear and suspicion of the party that is cleaning up our failures.


Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.


Ignore the facts and run on ideology.


Cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes with no plan as to how to grow our economy so in the edn we just build more deficits funded by China.


Hate our government, hate it with a passion while we call ourselves Patriots.


Ignore state level behaviors and state dependencies on Federal programs to provide the roads, bridges, water treatment and distribution, electricity and everything else we Tea Baggers use in our hypocritical drive to kill the Federal Government.

Yes America, these are the beliefs that you should vote for.


Posted by: thecontributist | September 14, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

There is no difference between a RINO republican and liberal democrat and there is nothing absurd about overthrowing the status quo. So Mr. Dionne can go to H*ll.

Posted by: penniless_taxpayer | September 14, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I saw O'Donnell on the news last night complaining about Republicans who follow the Democratic line "lock, step and barrel." This woman is easily as dumb as Palin.

Posted by: rashomon | September 14, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

This woman is easily as dumb as Palin.
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Now that is saying something! In fact, the more I ponder that statement, the less I am able to wrap my mind around it. Wait, you said, as DUMB as Palin? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. That's a good one!

Posted by: rpaustex | September 14, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

YES they will like Adolph Hitler did..!!

and
the Mindless Followers
without any awareness what they are doing either.

ISA

Posted by: vettesport | September 14, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

If Dione is saying it, it must be verbiage directly out of the Dems playbook. A little unrest is good for both parties, neither of which seems to understand their appointed rolls. As Al Davis, owner of the Oakland Raiders said, "Just win, baby!".

Posted by: KDSmallJr | September 14, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Dionne pleads for a GOP that doesn't exist anymore. Castle is an orphan. The GOP is dying, the Teabaggers will take over. One or two elections cycles and there will be NO strong second party.

O'Donnell is truly an unelectable, blithering idiot. With candidates like her, Fiorini and Angle the end is coming for the Tea Party and that smirking, grinning buffoon Sarah Palin.

Posted by: joebanks | September 14, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Dionne it's really amazing that some in the media and in government, especially on the loony left fringe, still don't get what the Tea Party is all about.

It's all about shrinking the size of our government and getting back to common sense values and ideas. You know, the stuff this country is made of, and the stuff that has always made it great.

The Tea Party isn't about left or right, it's about right and wrong. It just so happens that the values of republicans are more in line with the values of working Americans and the Tea Party. Therefore you will see the Tea Party aligning more with the right than the left.

However that does not mean that the Tea Party won't go after republicans who are more about spending and irresponsibility than fiscal constraint and accountability.

It really doesn't matter what happens this election cycle or the next for that matter. The Tea Party is here to stay. It's all about the voice of the people. Not the voice of the loud mouth loony left which has always been loud and illogically proud, but the voice of working Americans which has always been silent. We are now fully awake, aware, and active, and it's not going to change.

Deal with it Dionne, the time of the progressive socialist has past in this country. The American people are taking our country back, one election, one politician, one correct decision at a time.

Posted by: SayWhat5 | September 14, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Teabaggers, sheep-shaggers, baa baa baa!

Palin-Dr. Laura in 2012!

Democrats rejoice! The Repugnants will be walking in the wilderness for 200 years!

Posted by: bs2004 | September 14, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone know what Palin's cash haul was from her 9-11 Bar-B-Q?

Posted by: Maddogg | September 14, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Say what 5 wrote...
It's all about shrinking the size of our government and getting back to common sense values and ideas. You know, the stuff this country is made of, and the stuff that has always made it great.

Like lying about your education, living off campaign donations, defaulting on your mortgage and having IRS liens...
Ms. O'Donnell surely represents those solid common-sense values.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | September 14, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

EJ, think that you have not been outside the DC cocoon long enough to see that an increasing number of Americans are TIRED of the 'tax and spend' mentality in Washington -- BOTH PARTIES.

When we have an inexperienced, arrogant executive who apparently cannot count, the ire just gets that much greater!

Come visit us in the Dakotas and see what can happen when citizens become responsible for themselves!! (WE SURE DO NOT RUN UP DEBT TO PROVIDE AN ILLUSION THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE -- AT THE EXPENSE OF HONEST WORKERS AND PLANNERS!!)

Posted by: wheeljc | September 14, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I'm still waiting for anybody to get specific on their plan to improve jobs. We know the TARP, STIMULUS, and TAX CUTS didn't work.

All we get out of all fronts is non-sense. And non-sense just doesn't cut it anymore.

Posted by: Maddogg | September 14, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Wow - the fear in the WP is really getting bad.

Between Dionne and Robinson today, it is obvious that both are under hard pressure from their White House masters to go into full screech mode against people who are pointing out what is wrong with Obama's vision.

Both these guys always think they are right, yet the debt is getting bigger and bigger and they are getting louder and louder that the rest of us don't get it and they are smarter than us.

It is getting old. Might be time to get rid of these guys when their contracts are up. They are not very good.

Posted by: asdf9876 | September 14, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

"Absurdity". What is "absurd", Dionne, is for you and your ilk to think that Americans are going to go down without a fight. We are not going to buy health insurance, or anything else you and Barack Obama have to sell

Posted by: chatard | September 14, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

The upshot of the likes of O'Donnell, Palin, the tea-baggers from Nevada, Alaska and other states is a testimony to the fact that the educational system in the US has really fallen behind. This seems to be part of the plan of big corporations. People get their indoctrination from FOX news and other organs of the corporate establishment. Then the uneducated masses who have never learned to think clearly find that the simplistic, fearful, angry, hate-filled arguments thrust at them by people who are "just like them" are very appealing. It is quite possible that the tea-bagger approach may become a dominant force in US politics. It would be another down-turn but it can happen. It is interesting to see that, like many third-world countries, the uneducated electorate of the US can be convinced to vote against its own best interest by those who would profit from the ignorance of the majority rather than find ways to educate and raise people up. What a world!!

Posted by: MickyD1 | September 14, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see some real reporting about just WHO is in control of the "Tea Party Express."

Oh, wait, maybe I don't. If they can give the Dems this seat, I'd be happy to let them continue their shenanigans out of the light of day.

Posted by: theRealCalGal | September 14, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

All we need is for one of these so called patriots to put a hold on all nominees and filibuster the first bill they don't like in the senate to understand how far we've gone down the path to tyranny by neglect over the last few decades - and these puppets from the so called Tea Party haven't the slightest clue as to how they've been manipulated by players they haven't even met...

Posted by: thanksforfish | September 14, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Good morning from Alaska, Have heart tea party people our local papers are attempting to demonize us up here also. They just can;t believe Joe Miller won. Well good luck to Ms. O'Donnell and I predict a win here for her. To those who think she can't win in the general I say "bring it on"

Posted by: mrwndrflxoxo | September 14, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

When politicians of either or both parties refuse to accept that their job is to REPRESENT their community's citizens rather than to RULE over them; then it is time for some changes.

From bail-outs and health care and Cap and Trade to redefining words such as "Public Use" and "marriage", far too many elected and appointed public officials have totally forgotten that they are put there to represent the citizens and to work on their behalf, not to work toward some ideological goal or personal and party power grabs.

If it takes the likes of the Tea Party to begin to correct this situation then so be it.

Posted by: robinTX54 | September 14, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I am not going to comment on the Delaware primary but am wondering if Dionne wrote the same thing about Democrats when Blance Lincoln was considered too moderate and the unions spent big money in trying to win the primary for a big left of center liberal.

Posted by: sales7 | September 14, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone know what Palin's cash haul was from her 9-11 Bar-B-Q?

Posted by: Maddogg | September 14, 2010 11:01 AM

ZERO I was there.

Posted by: mrwndrflxoxo | September 14, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

willandjansdad1 wrote ....
Like lying about your education, living off campaign donations, defaulting on your mortgage and having IRS liens...
Ms. O'Donnell surely represents those solid common-sense values.

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willandjansdad1 you have to understand something. NOBODY is even LISTENING to people like you anymore. Your out of touch opinions don't mean anything anymore.

You can rant, rave, jump up and down, stop your feet, lie (which is what the loony left does best), and hold your breath until your face turns blue, but it just isn't going to matter.

The country is in an awakening. It's moving back to common sense values and beliefs and there's nothing that the progressive socialist machine can do about it.

What's interesting to watch is the expression of hatred and intolerance that is expressed by the left over all of this. It sheds light on who these people really are and how they operate.

Posted by: SayWhat5 | September 14, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse


Well Well! Dionne is working off the journolist of suggested street words to call the enemy -- lunacy, Absurdity, extreme!!

It is not Republicans who are making this change but Americans, and it's overdue!!

Getting some real Americans in government and emptying the swamp of elitists in D.C. is perfectly good business. We have had enough of Ivy league trained(indoctrinated) lawyers in Washington.


Posted by: jjcrocket14 | September 14, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Ah, yes, more blatherings from one of the ruling class about the oh so dangerous and extreme Tea Party movement that merely calls for an end to free trade. My god, for that it's adherents are "racists", "extremists", "ultra-conservatives" (or, if you are a Fox News fan "ultra-leftist"). But you are agree that these people are a danger to you and the rest of the ruling class. Dionne, one way or another, we are GOING to end Free Trade, and we are going to put an end to the divisive games by you and the rest of the professional political class. You have led us into a DEPRESSION with your greed and schemes. Count yourself fortunate that this isn't pre-reilutionmary France where the people literally tore people like you apart.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Those "middle class" values the TPers are always talking about. Do they include good schools? Well-funded police and fire departments? Good roads? Good jobs?

Well, dears, you need INFRASTRUCTURE for all of that. Show me a factory not built on a good road. Show me goods not transported by trains or trucks that need good roads. Show me more than a handful of public schools built with private money.

You have NO IDEA what your tax dollars are going for. You are just down-right uneducated about what your government does for you. You are blind. You are acting emotionally out of fear. If you are unemployed, you should be BEGGING the government to build more roads, repair roads, improve schools. All of that creates JOBS while the private companies you apparently LOVE are holding onto TRILLIONS of dollars and NOT investing in America.

Posted by: theRealCalGal | September 14, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Don't forget Nevada's very own Sharron the obtuse Angle. CHEERS!

Posted by: whocares666 | September 14, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

It is not so much that the GOP is going over the edge but rather that the party establishment seems incapable of avoiding a hostile take over by the lunatic fringe. This is the inevitable outcome of using that fringe as a tool to get back into power.

Posted by: serban1 | September 14, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

There is a great column in today's NYT by Bob Herbert that everyone should read:

“...we did not learn the larger lesson of the 1930s: that when the distribution of income gets too far out of whack, the economy needs to be reorganized so the broad middle class has enough buying power to rejuvenate the economy over the longer term.”

The middle class is finally on its knees. Jobs are scarce and good jobs even scarcer.

Government and corporate policies have been whacking working Americans every which way for the past three or four decades.

While globalization and technological wizardry were wreaking employment havoc, the movers and shakers in government and in the board rooms of the great corporations were embracing privatization and deregulation with the fervor of fanatics.

The safety net was shredded, unions were brutally attacked and demonized, employment training and jobs programs were eliminated, higher education costs skyrocketed, and the nation’s infrastructure, a key to long-term industrial and economic health, deteriorated.

The richest one-tenth of 1 percent, representing just 13,000 households, took in more than 11 percent of total income in 2007.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/14/opinion/14herbert.html?_r=2&ref=opinion

note that the 13,000 households = 1% is probably wrong- it appears that the correct figure is (x 10), or 130,000.

In any event, you don't need a Ph.D. in psychology to see that when there is hugely disproportionate distribution of wealth in a society, you’re going to have problems, and the only way that you can sustain it is to keep the masses dumb and distracted, and/or in line with a brutal police force/military…

we have the Tea Party, and Fox “news”…

Posted by: losthorizon10 | September 14, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Delaware, meet DC.

DC, meet Delaware.

Political outsiders seem to love getting involved in places they are not committed to living in, despite their general ideology against such things.

Hypocrites much?

Posted by: HillRat | September 14, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

We are not going to buy health insurance, or anything else you and Barack Obama have to sell

Posted by: chatard
-----------------------------

So you'll just rely on socialist programs like Medicare and Medicaid and socialist legislation like EMTALA to get your health care? Way to teach those liberals a lesson!

Posted by: ashotinthedark | September 14, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

YES they will like Adolph Hitler did..!!

and
the Mindless Followers
without any awareness what they are doing either.

ISA

Posted by: vettesport | September 14, 2010 10:43 AM

___________________________________

Godwin's Law Alert!!!!!!!!!!!!

This time it only took 4 posts before someone threw out the first nazi/hitler reference!!!!!!!!

Posted by: TOMMYBASEBALL | September 14, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Mark my Words
the GOP
will lose seats
in
the
Senate and Congress

ISA

Posted by: vettesport | September 14, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

One thing crazier would be to take advise as a conservative from a dyed in the wool progressive squishy liberal writing in the Washington ComPost.

Thanks but no thanks.
We'll have our hands full trying to keep the newly elected republicans from being corrupted by DC and replacing or reorientating RHINOs that survive the primaries and general elections.

Posted by: theduck6 | September 14, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Saywhat5-

So are you saying Ms. O'Donnel hasn't lied about her education, doesn't live off campaign donations, hasn't defaluted on her mortgage and doesn't haveIRS liens? Or are you saying she has done those things, but they represent common-sense values.
You didnt' actually respond to the other post you just inserted a Tea Party Mad Lib.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | September 14, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

". We are not going to buy health insurance, or anything else you and Barack Obama have to sell

Posted by: chatard | September 14, 2010 11:07 AM |

//// No, but you'll be the first to get into an ambulance and expect to have your injuries taken care of at the public expense. When emergency rooms can leave people to bleed at the door, then insurance shouldn't be mandatory. Until then, people without insurance are freeloaders who steal from the rest of us.

Posted by: Keesvan | September 14, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

"I could buy a parrot and train it to say, ‘tax cuts,’ but at the end of the day, it’s still a parrot, not a conservative"
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It's not a parrot, or a conservative. It's just your typical, ordinary GOP congressman.

Posted by: tfspa | September 14, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

She is dragging the great O'Donnell name through the manure.

Posted by: johng1 | September 14, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

E.J. writes about the Tea Party quite a bit. It appears that they 'own' him.

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Posted by: Hawaiian_Gecko | September 14, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

YES they will like Adolph Hitler did..!!

and
the Mindless Followers
without any awareness what they are doing either.

ISA

Posted by: vettesport | September 14, 2010 10:43 AM

___________________________________

Godwin's Law Alert!!!!!!!!!!!!

This time it only took 4 posts before someone threw out the first nazi/hitler reference!!!!!!!!

Posted by: TOMMYBASEBALL |
=============================
So DUDE...
I guess you do not think it is not real..

WHAT the GOP is practicing is what all Authoritarians do..

HITLER is one of the last huge world wide success of engaging in mass propaganda so successfully we had WW2

Your Neocon's have us in a conflict as expensive as WW3 and using the same MIS-INFORMATION TACTICS as Hitler and Himler.

THOSE who actively read and understand history KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!

SO what is it you do not want to know??

ISA

Posted by: vettesport | September 14, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Lets take this to its likely outcome. Tea nuts win the congress and show themselves to be not libertarian but anarchists...they hate our government. 2012 they lose in a landslide and then take up arms. They have said they will do this by bullet or ballot. The anger they show now will be nothing compared to what they will show themselves to be in the future. Beware the future teanuts will bring.

Posted by: tctrustee1 | September 14, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Wow Dionne, it must be panic time for you and your socialist/progressive/elitist backers.

Gee, why can't the "good" RINO's stay in office and continue to play ball with us good S/P/E's.

Your cherished policies and viewpoints are being rejected over and over again. Get used to it.

Posted by: jrealty | September 14, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

And we could buy a parrot and train it to say "more government spending", and with a little extra effort, the bird would repeat "more govenment intrusion". Or we could continue to read socialist Dionne's tripe.

Nah. Give me the bird that says "tax cuts", "less spending", "small government". It's less monotonous.

Posted by: bbwk80a1 | September 14, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Mr Dionne; all,

fwiw, everybody, who knows anything at all about you, knows that ANYONE that you think is a "moderate" is to the LEFT of Karl Marx. = you & your coven of LEFTIES are so far to the left that you're out there all ALONE.
(that's WHY "the washington COMpost" is losing readership AND advertizers.- i wonder how long it will be till YOU are unemployed & the WP is in the same financial shape as the NY SLIMES currently is?)

in just about seven weeks you will be even MORE alone, as the "CLEAN SWEEP" of Congress will carry away many of your cohorts of the DIMocRATS Party to the unemployment rolls.= THAT is the LOSS OF JOBS that i support.
(btw, have you asked Harry Reid what he plans to do when he is voted OUT of office? = you SHOULD, as he has about as much chance on 11/02/10 as i do of being elected. - i'm not running for anything.)

the FACTS are that 11/02/10 will be a BLOODBATH for the DIMocRATS/LIBs/EXTREMISTS & there is NOTHING that BHO & his gang of CROOKS/nitwits/BIGOTS/fools can do to STOP the mass exodus of the DIMs from the House & Senate. = it won't even be close, as the "regular people" are ANGRY at BHO/DIMocRATS & we will have "our pound of flesh" from them.

we don't want more DUMB-bunny speeches, finger-pointing, weak excuses, empty platitudes & FOOLISH/need-LESS spending.
instead we just want ALL of the LIBERALS & phoney "moderates" OUT. period. end of story.

the latest independent polls that i've seen say a NET LOSS for the DIMocRATS this fall of:
1. 50-65 HoR members,
2. 10-11 US Senators
and
3 8-10 Governors.

just my opinions.
(i do NOT speak for our county's TPP, absent a vote on each issue.)

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | September 14, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

It's a shame to see people manipulated into voting against their own interests. Anybody who thinks the GOP is aligned with the "ordinary American" is simply uneducated and oblivious to reality.

Hey teabaggers: They are using you, and laughing at you. You folks are like a herd of buffalo blindly being marched by your leaders over a cliff.

Posted by: bandit1972 | September 14, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

"It's all about shrinking the size of our government and getting back to common sense values and ideas. You know, the stuff this country is made of, and the stuff that has always made it great."
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and what common sense values would that be? slavery? monopolies? I'm not sure what history books you read - if any - but this country became great because of all the things you seem to want to do away with.
Get rid of government? great. apparently you are a real fan of what happens when there is no government to regulate the marketplace.

Posted by: tfspa | September 14, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Label everyone you don't like a "liberal" or "RINO."
Shrink your party to group of redfaced screaming imbeciles.
Alienate every emerging democraphic.
Elect obvious hypocrites and parrots with zero personal integrity.
"Daddy, what happened to the Republican Party?
It was hijacked by ignorance, son."

Posted by: bertram2 | September 14, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

As one commenter put it, I must be from that loony left fringe, because as I see it, the tea party wants to run away from the government programs that benefit the hypocrit tea partiers. Social Security; Medicare; federal funding for roads, bridges, and the rest of the infrastructure; and anything else they can think of. But don't touch the military budget, or border security. Even as the Obama administraion has done more to secure our borders than Shrub did in 8 years.
They say they aren't organized, but sent $250,000 to O'Donnell from California.
The GOP is fading, and it's ashes are being scattered by tea party hypocrits backed by right wing morons like Dick Armey, Palin the quitter, and Glen "cry me a river" Beck. A purge of moderate Republicans will make the GOP look like a bunch of old white people clamoring for a time when Ozzie and Harriet ruled the airwaves.
I'm just enjoying the fear and hate group argue amongst themselves about which is better, tax cuts for the rich, or destroying the federal government through inaction. The party of NO has always been good for a laugh.

Posted by: COLEBRACKETT | September 14, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

E.J.: I know you have a problem with people voting and speaking their minds but that's what non-Liberals do. Non-Libs do not wait to be told by elitists how or what to think. That pretty much defines the Liberal elite - SEIU relationship

Posted by: hz9604 | September 14, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

PERSONAL to Mr Dionne:

PLEASE write a "HIT PIECE" on the TEA PARTY every day, for the next SEVEN WEEKS!
(each time that a LIB does that, our membership skyrockets.)

in the case of my county's TEA PARTY group, we actually copy & pass out your (and Mr Capehart's) columns to potential recruits!
"the washington COMpost" is one of our best recruiting tools, as anything that the editorial writers of the COMpost are for, the average voter "out in flyover country" is AGAINST.

so PLEASE Sir, RANT ON!

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | September 14, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Honest to God it is laugh out loud funny to watch the rantings and ravings of the progressive socialist loons, carping away, flipping through the pages in their chocolate stained socialist talking points binders, throwing out all of the (no longer effective) code words like: neocon, nazzi, etc., etc..

The country is being taken back my leftist friends. It's being taken back by real Americans. You know, the people who work, contribute, and pay far too much in taxes to subsidize those who won't work, don't contribute, and pay nothing in taxes. Basically we are taking it back from all of you progressive socialist loons on the extreme left. :<)

Posted by: SayWhat5 | September 14, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to know why Castle refuses to discuss his views on Kenyan colonialism.

Posted by: Ralphinjersey | September 14, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

hz9604 said: "E.J.: I know you have a problem with people voting and speaking their minds but that's what non-Liberals do. Non-Libs do not wait to be told by elitists how or what to think. That pretty much defines the Liberal elite - SEIU relationship"

* * *

Hilarious! First you deride liberals for being unable to think for themselves without being told what to do by "elites", and then in the very next sentence you spout about a bizarre conspiracy theory that was fed to you by the Right Wing Noise Machine. Guess who pours $$$$$ into the Right Wing Noise Machine that spreads BS to gullible folks like you? Massive corporations and right-wing elites.

Tell me something: how does it feel to be played for a fool?

Posted by: bandit1972 | September 14, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Those crazy Tea Party people.
They think an election has two candidates who talk to voters and then the voters decide.
Where did they read that? In some history book?
Mr. Dionne correctly points out this is an absurd idea.
How will the Republicans function if they keep doing crazy things like this?
Dems and liberals realy like the country club Republicans who were too polite to interrupt the Washington spending spree.
First, these Tea Party people think voters should decide elections. Next, thing they'll do is unplug the Washington spending machine.
As Mr. Dionne correctly points out, that would be both absurd and dangerous.

Posted by: jfv123 | September 14, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

How many tea parties have you been to, Mr. Sportscoatwithpipe? A person who speaks with such authority on the matter of parties tea will surely have attended a few, right? Otherwise you would be just another blow hard expressing his feelings on a topic which he knows nothing about.

In the old days, this was called ignorance (before the word was co-opted to mean "word to describe those who oppose me")

Posted by: jenniferbugenator | September 14, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)

Posted by: neec13 | September 14, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

It's being taken back by real Americans. You know, the people who work, contribute, and pay far too much in taxes to subsidize those who won't work, don't contribute, and pay nothing in taxes. Basically we are taking it back from all of you progressive socialist loons on the extreme left. :<)

Posted by: SayWhat5
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I'm liberal, have a job, contribute to society and pay my taxes, unlike O'Donnell who does none of those things. Yet you call me names and support her.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | September 14, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Delaware is my home state. It is a wonderful little, moderate, small town place. It will be a much better place once the media circus leaves town and normalcy returns.

Castle has done a great job over the years and will continue to do so.

Posted by: adamsmorgan | September 14, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party and their financial supporters have replaced the Taliban and al Qaeda.

America as we knew it, long before the Bush Administration is on a path to further doom destruction, if left in the hands of the Tea Party backed candidates.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | September 14, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I sense a bit of fear from Dionne that O'Donnell, if she wins, might have a shot at defeating Coons in the general election. Otherwise why would Dionne, a far left guy, be opining about his stated "concern" that a nominal republican like Castle would have a better chance of defeating a democrat?

Of course there are other factors such as Dionne's knee-jerk anathema to the tea party and supporters like Sarah Palin.

Whatever Dionne's Machiavellian thinking, he is certainly NOT cheering for republicans.

Posted by: spamsux1 | September 14, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Reid and Angle Deadlocked in Nevada

Posted by: corebanks1940 | September 14, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Dick Armey doesn't sound too enthralled with the Tea Party mentality he helped create and nurture. It seems to have developed its own agenda. How can I put it? Sew the wind and reap the whirlwind? Be careful what you wish for? Having a rabid tiger by the tail? Cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war?

Dick, even with the Koch billions, maybe the cowboy costume was a bridge too far.

Posted by: m_richert | September 14, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Michele Bachmann weighed in with her support for O'Donnell -- thinks she will be the next GOVERNOR. I don't blame Ross a bit for being upset by outside influences, especially because they are knee jerk idiots.

Posted by: Sandydayl | September 14, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

E.J., I generally agree with you BUT in this case, the Tea Party has gone from absurd to absurder.

They had no authentic value from Day One. They have no authentic value now.

"Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

WB Yeats - The Second Coming

Posted by: bloommarko4 | September 14, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Dick Armey doesn't sound too enthralled with the Tea Party mentality he helped create and nurture. It seems to have developed its own agenda. How can I put it? Sew the wind and reap the whirlwind? Be careful what you wish for? Have a rabid tiger by the tail? Cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war?

Dude, even with the Koch billions, maybe the cowboy costume was a bridge too far.

Posted by: m_richert | September 14, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Dick Armey doesn't sound too enthralled with the Tea Party mentality he helped create and nurture. It seems to have developed its own agenda. How can I put it? Sew the wind and reap the whirlwind? Be careful what you wish for? Have a rabid tiger by the tail? Cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war?

Dude, even with the Koch billions, maybe the cowboy costume was a bridge too far.

Posted by: m_richert | September 14, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Dionne you and your Marxist buddies finally are getting what the Tea Party movement is all about. Small government please!! We are tired of the agenda to break capitalism and the American Constitution. We will not allow it to happen. God Bless America!!

Posted by: pechins | September 14, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

You and the rest of the media don't get it. You and the extreme liberals on the left are the problem and the cause of the tea party's existence. The tea party is the result of the left socialist policies of the current regime. Throw in the illegal alien issues (oh my! not politically correct, should be undocumented persons)

Add the above to a lousy economy with no end in sight other than more taxes and government handouts and you have the tea party

I know you are going to classify me as some right wing nut, but was a democrat (am still registered as one), voted democrat most my life, believe in the woman's right to choose, believe that gays deserve rights, don't much care for guns etc.

But also own a small business work very hard and seem to be giving it all away to the government. But no more will no longer vote democrat

Posted by: kathymac1 | September 14, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I doubt that Mr. Dionne would support repeal of the 17th Amendment. Mr. Ross complains about the out-of-state activity in a Delaware election and this happens in large part due to the effects of the 17th Amendment which causes national interest in state elections. If Senators were selected by the state legislators, as designed by the founders, outsiders would have less influence, IMHO.

Posted by: BobThompson | September 14, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

You lie down with dogs..................

Likewise, you fund, recruit and encourage idiots, you find that they do not defer when you expect them to. Tell them they are just as smart as anyone and they will believe you. It's an old Jacksonian idea--any man can serve in government, education and knowledge be damned, and all campaigns should revolve around slander, whiskey and bar-b-que.

Posted by: rusty3 | September 14, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

"Come visit us in the Dakotas and see what can happen when citizens become responsible for themselves!! (WE SURE DO NOT RUN UP DEBT TO PROVIDE AN ILLUSION THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE -- AT THE EXPENSE OF HONEST WORKERS AND PLANNERS!!)

Posted by: wheeljc | September 14, 2010 11:06 AM"

http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/266.html#fedspend_per_taxesbystate-20071009

North Dakota ranks sixth and South Dakota ranks eighth in receiving more dollars from Federal spending than they contribute in taxes.

Now what were you saying?

Posted by: wiccan | September 14, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

It's all George Bush's fault. . .

He broke Obama's promise to put all bills on the White House web site for five days before signing them.

He broke Obama's promise to have the congressional health care negotiations broadcast live on C-SPAN.

He broke Obama's promise to end earmarks.

He broke Obama's promise to not force Americans to buy health insurance.

He broke Obama's promise to cut spending.

He broke Obama's promise to keep unemployment from rising above 8 percent.

He broke Obama's promise to close the detention center at Guantanamo in the first year.

He broke Obama's promise to make peace with direct, no precondition talks with America 's most hate-filled enemies during his first year in office, ushering in a new era of global cooperation.

He broke Obama's promise to never allow Iran the ability to create nuclear weapons.

He broke Obama's promise to end the hiring of former lobbyists into high White House jobs.

He broke Obama's promise that 90% of the stimulus jobs created would be in the private sector.

He broke Obama's promise that that if you like their current health plan you can keep it.

He broke Obama's promise to end no-compete contracts with the government.

He broke Obama's promise to disclose the names of all attendees at closed White House meetings.

He broke Obama's promise for a new era of bipartisan cooperation in all matters.

He broke Obama's promise to not increase taxes on families making under 250k

He broke Obama's promise to have chosen a home church to attend Sunday services with his family by Easter of last year.

If not for Bush, all of Obama promises would have been kept, the economy would be back on track, Iran would have stopped its work on developing a nuclear bomb and would be negotiating a peace treaty with Israel . North Korea would have ended its tyrannical regime, and integrity would have been restored to the federal government.

Posted by: hunter340 | September 14, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Funny how Dionne labels conservatives participating in the political process a 'rebellion' and liberals who do likewise 'activists'. Grass roots activism is what got us the current regime in Central Power... a strong Central power that attempts to place mandates on the individual all in the name of 'it's beneficial for the whole'... Big Bloated Benevolent Brother at his finest. Wake up Dionne.. the writing is on the November wall.

Posted by: patsyd | September 14, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

"Dionne it's really amazing that some in the media and in government, especially on the loony left fringe, still don't get what the Tea Party is all about.

It's all about shrinking the size of our government and getting back to common sense values and ideas. You know, the stuff this country is made of, and the stuff that has always made it great."

This is verbal diarrhea, not policy. Not one member of the Tea Party has proposed a concrete legislative example of what "common sense values" are.

Posted by: sammalone1 | September 14, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Things always become absurd (or whatever verb you choose to use in opposition) when it's against what you want to happen.

Posted by: r_leever | September 14, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

"From bail-outs and health care and Cap and Trade to redefining words such as "Public Use" and "marriage", far too many elected and appointed public officials have totally forgotten that they are put there to represent the citizens ..."

Typical Republicrat drivel.

I'M a citizen and I LIKE health care reform. I would prefer MORE of it, and MORE than Cap and Trade. I would prefer that people dim enough to believe in magic don't have the last say over my marriage.

You on the right always claim to be the "real" Americans, but I'm here to tell you there are plenty of Americans who don't think like you and don't want your ideas of "I've got mine so screw the rest of you" to be our national character.

Posted by: theRealCalGal | September 14, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

It's great to see the republicans struggling with the monster they created. It's their own fault that FOX touts the lying, insane teabag candidates and distorts the truth every day. The republican activist judges on the supreme court also changed the election finance laws to encourage out of state billionaires to control politics everywhere through sham organizations. So much for a grass roots movement!

Posted by: hockeymom1 | September 14, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

ashotinthedark - Count yourself lucky that you have a job! The free trade insanity foisted off on this country by your party has resulted in the outsourcing of more than 45 million jobs! And, more than 5 million US hi-tech workers have been displaced, lost their jobs, because of your idiotic H1-B visa program. Under Obama, in less than two years, we outsourced 8 million jobs, dismantled the trade tariffs that had been *mandated* by the Founding Fathers to protect US jobs and businesses. Your party dismantled the corporate laws regulating multinationals and they have run amuck ever since. Now, I hope and pray that the era of excess and greed sponsored by the Democrats and their Neoconservative allies (aka "RINO") is over. You spin masters can only fool people for so long before the lies become glaringly evident. The Democrats ARE NOT the party of working people. They are the party of Wall Street investors, multinational corporations, big pharmaceutical firms, banks, India and China.The Tea Party is all that stands between us and the complete collapse of our economy.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

jjcrockett14 wrote: "[Get] some real Americans in government and emptying the swamp of elitists."

So because I go to school (phd) I'm not a real American? What gives you or Sarah Palin or Ms. Odonnell the right to assess my citizenship?

For me, this is why tea baggers are so objectionable. They are Americans, but so am I.

Posted by: rogied25 | September 14, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

O'Donnell may be an idiot, but that doesn't mean that Dionne isn't one, too. We're talking about a columnist who rejects any notion of a limited government as set forth in the US constitution and who disparages anyone who seeks to restrain the federal government within its constitutional powers. O'Donnell may indeed by the Republican's version of Alvin Greene, but Dionne will say anything to maintain an imperial, unlimited government. Dionne is not a "progressive;" he's an imperialist. That's what the constitutionalists in the country are rebelling against.

Posted by: _BSH | September 14, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Good or bad this is democracy in action, something most liberals and especially EJ do not understand. EJ believes all Democrats should be liberal and follow in lockstep with Obama. More and more American's care less about party and more about who they believe can deliver on smaller government and less taxes.

O'Donnell might very well win Delaware and then will lose in the general election but it is democracy in action. EJ would deny it but Obama's election was also democracy, which often times does not see through the lies.

Posted by: topgun97365 | September 14, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

texasnative represents well, doesn't s/he?

Posted by: theRealCalGal | September 14, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

lcarter0311 wrote:
The Tea Party and their financial supporters have replaced the Taliban and al Qaeda.
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Ladies and gentlemen – if there was any doubt as to the mindset of the average progressive liberal loon, I give you the post made by lcarter0311.

This is what we’re up against folks. This is what they think, this is how they feel about ANYONE who isn’t in lock step with their warped progressive socialist ideology.

Remember in November folks, and thanks lcarter0311 for so clearly making the distinction between the loony left and the rest of us!

Posted by: SayWhat5 | September 14, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

One reason the Dakotas are doing so well is because of all of the federal largess that comes to them. If that were taken away, I wonder where they would be. Maybe they should be careful. They might get what they wish for.

Posted by: chlind | September 14, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

"The Democrats ARE NOT the party of working people. They are the party of Wall Street investors, multinational corporations, big pharmaceutical firms, banks, India and China.The Tea Party is all that stands between us and the complete collapse of our economy."

So why are all the loony TP candidates running against Republicrats? You'd think one or two would try running against the Democrats, wouldn't you?

Oh, and so MANY "real Americans" profited from the undiluted greed of the Great Mortgage Ripoff. Yeah, if you lost your house because a bank wouldn't renegotiate your loan, it's the party NO Wall Street banker supports that is to blame. Yeah, right.

Posted by: theRealCalGal | September 14, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

The Repubs have long since gone over the edge, EJ. They went over it when they decided that power is the only goal, and getting it justifies working against the good of their country. The Repub leadership endorses the crazy right's views; they just want to be able to carve out exceptions for winning elections.

Posted by: turningfool | September 14, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

...the hard right is almost certain to show up....would quietly mourn if Castle, a guy of old-fashioned decency, were to lose. If there is no longer any room for him and people like him in the GOP, it will be the clearest sign yet of a party that has decided to go off the edge....

poor 1st staters. do the 'right' thing

Posted by: mloaks | September 14, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

What does CCTPP stand for texasnative46?

Posted by: djbigsplash | September 14, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

chlind - Are you REALLY that dumb? The reason the Dakota's "receive" so much federal money is because most of our wheat is grown there and agricultural products are virtually all of our exports! If you removed raw materials (coal from Utah and rare earth metals from Wyoming and Montana) and agricultural products from our exports, there wouldn't be any! That is the dirty little secret the government wont tell you about when they blather about "free trade". A mere 5.6% of our exports are of manufactured goods. Those giga farms and huge mining companies are the veil behind which the failure of free trade hide. For that, and these corporations provide huge amounts of "campaign cash" (read: bribes) to members of Congress, we have sacrificed the 80% of our economy that is domestic spending. Prior to Clinton, US businesses provided virtually all of the goods and services for that domestic portion of our economy. It was the engine that was responsible for most small business and for jobs. One that was gone, there was nothing left and we ran on ever increasing debt until the whole series of schemes collapsed. Now we face ever increasing debt, spiraling out of control inflation, and no base whatsoever for which to create jobs. The "new world order", the "global economy" was supposed to create international bonds between countries and make war impossible. Instead, it looks like it will destroy the united States, *very* likely create an American dictatorship, and foster a third world war. The Neocons, the Democrats, and their Wall Street masters have done this. They made billions of dollars and created an elite that Dionne is a member of, but you and I are not. All this scumbag is doing is sewing confusion and trouble. The Tea Party is currently and mostly composed of hi-tech workers and other [professionals who see what is coming and are desperately trying to avoid it. You, silly fool, are merely a tool used by the entrenched elite to ensure your own demise.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Given the way he's voted the last couple of decades, and his recent allegiance to Obama's major political thrusts, Castle at some point lost all Republican, and certainly Conservative, credentials.

If Dionne actually thinks of Castle as a moderate he should go to his health care giver now, not later, for a full check up ~ before gaskets blow!

The young lady running against him certainly knows what today's poor, working class and middle class people face in the Obama Great Recession ~ unpaid debts, unpayable taxes, loss of income, ...... rather have someone in office who has felt the lash of poor government than someone who imagines more of the same nonsense will fix everything.

I strongly suspect the broad masses of voters in Delaware are prepared to turn on the Obamistas and their running dog lackeys this year and they will show no sympathy for them.

Posted by: muawiyah | September 14, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Given the way he's voted the last couple of decades, and his recent allegiance to Obama's major political thrusts, Castle at some point lost all Republican, and certainly Conservative, credentials.

If Dionne actually thinks of Castle as a moderate he should go to his health care giver now, not later, for a full check up ~ before gaskets blow!

The young lady running against him certainly knows what today's poor, working class and middle class people face in the Obama Great Recession ~ unpayable debts, unpayable taxes, loss of income, ...... rather have someone in office who has felt the lash of poor government than someone who imagines more of the same nonsense will fix everything.

I strongly suspect the broad masses of voters in Delaware are prepared to turn on the Obamistas and their running dog lackeys this year and they will show no sympathy for them.

Posted by: muawiyah | September 14, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

All you need to know about the teatirds is this: they didn't challenge Diaper David Vitter, but not only challenged Castle, but accused him of being gay.

Posted by: oldabandonedbeachhouse | September 14, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

LET'S PUT AN END TO ALL OF THIS NONSENSE: HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT IN 2012! DON'T WORRY ABOUT OBAMA! (He's toast!) DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS! WE NEED HILLARY CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE! PASS IT ON!!!!

Posted by: georges2 | September 14, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

oldabandonedbeachhouse - You, sir, are a paid agitator. The Tea Party is, and always has been, pro- gay rights. In fact, virtually everyone in the Tea Party I know of think the government has no business at all being involved in banning gay marriage. That simply isn't anyone business - not the courts, not Congress, no anyone. SAo, pray tell, where do you come by your slander? I think you merely invented it on behalf of whoever is paying you.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse


"We think that insulting the voters 7 weeks before Election Day is a wise strategy."

Dazed Confused Dim

Posted by: screwjob21 | September 14, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

mbrooks, please try to keep up with current events. I realize it is difficult for someone as delusional as yourself to acknowledge facts, but the gay-baiting of Castle is well known:
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/09/03/pulling-the-plug-in-delaware-the-libertycom-and-christine-odonnell-matter/

Posted by: oldabandonedbeachhouse | September 14, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Hitler, like Dionne, was a socialist. Those who support the Tea Party, are honest regular Americans who are concerned about the future and direction of our country. What's extreme about not wanting to live a Euro style welfare state?

Posted by: carlbatey | September 14, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"Castle, a genuine moderate who represents the last vestiges of what was once a thriving and honorable wing of Republicanism."

McCain did so well against the extremist liberal Obama. At least he was honorable.
The Tea Party is setting standards that Republican may or may not choose to meet. I support the conservative candidates, not just the Republican candidates.

Posted by: kitchendragon50 | September 14, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Quit the tea party! Join the fist party! We hold up our fists in defiance to higher taxes! It's time to give the government a good fisting!

Posted by: jake555 | September 14, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

oldabandonedbeachhouse - What a fool you are! And you keep right plugging with the same slander, the same lies. You quote some nasty Neocon and try and associate him with he Tea Party. Even in his blog he disavows any association with the Tea Party, but you somehow want to characterize him as a member! Well, he isn't. He's a self avowed Redneck and a Republican. We are not either Redneck nor Republican's.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

mbrooks, you clearly didn't follow his links. Liberty.com, which is behind the gay-baiting of Castle, was started by a teatird leader. I have no doubt that teatirds started out as not anti-gay, but in their lust for power, they, like many conservatives, will get their bigotry on to win elections. We saw the same thing with their racism last year, using the "n" word towards Congressmen.

Posted by: oldabandonedbeachhouse | September 14, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Neec13 quotes Mill:

"'Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.'
John Stuart Mill"

I'll quote Sowell:

"Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face." - Thomas Sowell

Posted by: RossOdom | September 14, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Hundreds of years later, people know who Mill is. Sowell will be forgotten within a few years of his death, save for some of his more insipid commentary.

Posted by: oldabandonedbeachhouse | September 14, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse


Sometimes I wonder why I waste my time blogging on this rag. It is a propaganda tool from the left in support of the left. The choir preaching to the choir. Somewhat incestial! It sure as hell won't reach the independents who are moving swiftly to the THE Republican candidates. Forget all the crap you have been reading here by the likes of Dioone the Loon and Amy, etc. She wrote two yesterday about the split happening in the Republican party. They quickly pulled the 1st because they realized the negative effect is was having on THEIR Progressive Bowellll movement. Now we have Eugene & Co. Working their A--es off beating up Newty, etc. IT AIN'T WORKING!! He. He.!! Keep on Keepin On - you peeing on your own shoes!!
9/14/2010 1:49:02 PM

Posted by: veritas7 | September 14, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

As a lifelong socialist, I am insulted by people who state that Hitler was a socialist. Hitler was a fascist. There is a difference. Even though the NAZI party was called National Socialist German Workers' Party they were not socialist in the sense of that some European countries might be considered socialists. It makes sense that Tea Partiers would hate socialism, but they would tend to agree with a lot of what the NAZI party stands for – for example, the NAZIs were against communists, foreigners, homosexuals and democracy.

Posted by: jake555 | September 14, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MickyD1 | September 14, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

“The upshot of the likes of O'Donnell, Palin, the tea-baggers from Nevada, Alaska and other states is a testimony to the fact that the educational system in the US has really fallen behind. This seems to be part of the plan of big corporations. People get their indoctrination from FOX news and other organs of the corporate establishment. Then the uneducated masses who have never learned to think clearly find that the simplistic, fearful, angry, hate-filled arguments thrust at them by people who are "just like them" are very appealing. It is quite possible that the tea-bagger approach may become a dominant force in US politics. It would be another down-turn but it can happen. It is interesting to see that, like many third-world countries, the uneducated electorate of the US can be convinced to vote against its own best interest by those who would profit from the ignorance of the majority rather than find ways to educate and raise people up. What a world!!”
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MickyD1, you are a genius. The official line of the US establishment is EDUCATION. Now we are supposed listen to the most un-educated and ill-informed segments of US society, simply amazing. When did average Americans lose the capacity for critical thought? I am a Liberal and proud of it, but I can evaluate any idea or proposal to determine its true value. Lets look at one idea, tax breaks for corporations. Uh, they take tax dollars, fire US workers, pay executives outrageous salaries, overall bad government policy.

Posted by: srags | September 14, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

oldabandonedbeachhouse ~ the "gay thing" about Delaware has a lot to do with that state being popular with the DC and Baltimore area gay crowd ~ not so much with there being a large permanent population of such folks.

A friend of mine of many years ago bought a couple of houses out there as an investment for use as summer houses for his gay friends ~ and made quite a profit on the deal.

It's worth keeping up on the most popular neighborhoods if you want to stay away from the gay crowd ~ as usual ~ but the folks like Castle have from time to time tried to have their cake and eat it too knowing the gays were not permanent residents and didn't vote there ~ yet they've made appeals to them as if they were a large and important Delaware constituency.

I suppose someone must have finally called him on that ~ frankly, I don't keep up with the namecalling in Delaware ~ and they'll vote for anyone ~ hey, there was Joe Biden ~ he had brain surgery three times UNSUCCESSFULLY ~ and yet he was Senator for Life.

Probably not much hope in that state for any sort of modern statecraft when you get right down to it.

Posted by: muawiyah | September 14, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Veritas, you are not blogging. You are commenting on the WP's web site. Bloggers use their own web sites. You are no more a blogger here than an op-ed columnist.

Jake, the right has long been trying to scrub their connections to Nazi Germany from the history books. Keep up the good fight against their historical revisionism. They are like Southerners pretending the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery.

Posted by: oldabandonedbeachhouse | September 14, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

As usual the liberals attacking those who threaten them the most, way to go guys and gals, you are still going to get your behinds kick this November so bend over and get ready for the BOOT! Oh and jake555, Hitler was a socialist dictator much like what is in the WH right now.

Posted by: vatownsend | September 14, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse


Veritas, you are not blogging. You are commenting on the WP's web site. Bloggers use their own web sites. You are no more a blogger here than an op-ed columnist.

Wow!! I sit corrected!! Toss me off with an all knowing, in depth knowledge of the "blogging" &
commenting world. I'm impressed!! OK - Now comment on my comment one who is obviously musch more intelligent and world wise.

Posted by: veritas7 | September 14, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I suspect the "problems" were well in place before '08'. GOP strategists "waited" for Mccain/Palin to play out. She et al now provides the "Untouchables" approach to graft in politics... and it's messier. Way more fun too! ... Unless one of their own in the GOP is a grafter under Her microscopic gaze.. Think purge. It's healthier in the long run, for both party's and the nation.
"To dream the impossible dream, to go where the brave dare not go...."

Posted by: deepthroat21 | September 14, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Yes conservatives are about to go extreme. Extremely in charge of the Congress.

To hell with Dionne and his ilk...its over rover.

Posted by: Straightline | September 14, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

oldabandonedbeachhous ~ silly boy ~ National Socialism and Socialism have the same roots, and we can never forget that the Democrat party openly advocated on behalf of human slavery.

Talk about some revisionism, you Leftwingtards should learn to be a bit more subtle.

There is no "right" in America anyway ~ maybe in Europe, Saudi Arabia, Libya, those kinds of places, but with the Democrats having sponsored slavery they are as close as we ever got to that.

Posted by: muawiyah | September 14, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

...........lol got to love how Dionne and the POST continues non-stop with their lying propaganda and smears againt the GOP...

Here's what the AMERICAN PEOPLE are saying:

"57% of Likely Voters Describe Democratic Congressional Agenda As Extreme

Wednesday, August 11, 2010

Most U.S. voters believe the Democratic congressional agenda is extreme, while a plurality describe the Republican agenda as mainstream.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 57% of Likely U.S. Voters think the agenda of Democrats in Congress is extreme. Thirty-four percent (34%) say it is more accurate to describe the Democratic agenda as mainstream."

.......There you have it folks the REAL FACTS vs. the normal lying liberal dogma the POST and its corrupt staff pushes........sad but true.........sorry Dems..........you're EXTREME not the GOP

Posted by: allenridge | September 14, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I can see November from the sidewalk now, not just up the stairs on the porch!

Leftwingtards, prepare to eat dirt!

Posted by: muawiyah | September 14, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Let's get this straight oldabandonedbeachhouse, the only political party that has always attempted to scrub the history books of it's foul stench that would be the democrat party. Would you like examples??

Posted by: vatownsend | September 14, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

oldabandonedbeachhouse- Nice try, but that "leader" had attempted to attach himself to the Tea Party and was kicked out!

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

@KDSmallJr: LOL! the Raiders have not had a winning season in about a decade - by all means, I hope you nutjobs continue to follow the playbook of that delusional, senile loser (no, not John McCain) Al Davis.

Posted by: Austin45 | September 14, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Well...it's now official. The Tea Party has divided the Republican Party.

The Republican Party did it to themselves by perpetuating the hate and lunacy of the Tea Party crowd during the town hall meetings over healthcare reform.

Now look at the Republicans. They can't figure out what's happening to them. Who would've ever thought that a snarky loudmouth from Wasilla, Alaska would have been capable of doing so much damage to the "Grand Ole Party". John McCain must be proud.

The sheer fact that we are witnessing a small group of angry and confused people hijack a political party because they are not "American" enough goes to show how blessed we are.

When I look at the photos of the Tea Partiers I see well dressed older people that are often obese. They have dined at the USA feed trough for many years, and have likely never really suffered or starved, or gone without. Sarah Palin is a good example of this. She lives in a big house on a lake in a beautiful place, with a float plane docked out back, driving a new car and wears fancy clothes. She doesn't smoke cigarettes, work in a factory, or drink twelve packs of Natural Light. Yet she pretends to.

She's a fraud that is making millions and millions of dollars by perpetuating fear and danger that only exists in the minds of the uneducated and racist members of our society, i.e. the Tea Party crowd.

And yes E.J. Dionne is right about the GOP going over the cliff, the only ones to pin the blame for their self-serving problems are themselves.

Posted by: burlydave | September 14, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party has no place for racists or bigots of any kind. In fact, the Tea Party has made a big deal out of staying out of the cultural wars entirely. That stands in stark contrast to the Republican Party which seems to welcome birthers and racists and the Democratic Party which apparently attracts Anti-semites, anti-christians, and other assorted bigots.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

ahahahaha it's so great to see the GOP eaten by the Teabag Party. You reap what you sow, freaks.

Posted by: MuslimWarriors | September 14, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Pardon my Palinism, but don't you mean extremier? The answer is yes. The right-wing can't help but drive themselves headlong into a ditch. It's what happens when you can only make right turns. At least this time the whole country is not in the car with them.

Posted by: tm13 | September 14, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

The headline over this Dionne column asks: "Will Tea Party Go Extreme?"
Please explain the word "will."

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | September 14, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

And to think, just a few short years ago, all the federal government haters were mostly liberals who belly-ached and complained incessantly about the Bush administration. Well the radical left-wing of the Democratic Party (i.e., the socialists, remember Hilary Clinton was the moderate) won their primaries in 2008 and eventually won the general election and are currently having their way, although not as much so as they may wish.

Now we see the same reaction, equal, but in the opposite direction, where the reactionary conservatives are playing out their efforts to end any accommodation with the far left. The political demagoguery on both sides has raised and used matters like race and class as issues to polarize the electorate and foster hatred and contempt for one’s adversaries. Perhaps this is just a natural outcome of democracy, where opposing views are natural and inevitable and a part of the normal progress of ideas, and the political need to galvanize your base by demeaning your opponents is essential to obtaining or maintaining yourself in power. The more polarization you get the small the middle is going to be, and the smaller the middle gets, the more difficult it will be to settle anything in a civil fashion.

As the government becomes more and more the principal arbitrator of success and failure, of “fair and equitable” distribution of the produce of the country, when it determines our health care, education, pensions, employment and the food we eat and where we live, you may expect the struggle to control the government will became ever more acerbated and acrimonious as it more and more takes on the characteristics of a life and death struggle, with those winning the political contests taking all and the losers being shut-out until the next election (if there is one). There is a parallel to this, the Weimar Republic come immediately to mind.

Posted by: droberts57 | September 14, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

dear vatownsend,
Go soak your head in a bubbling vat of bubblegum.

Posted by: jake555 | September 14, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

When I look at the photos of the Tea Partiers I see well dressed older people that are often obese. They have dined at the USA feed trough for many years, and have likely never really suffered or starved, or gone without. Sarah Palin is a good example of this. She lives in a big house on a lake in a beautiful place, with a float plane docked out back, driving a new car and wears fancy clothes. She doesn't smoke cigarettes, work in a factory, or drink twelve packs of Natural Light. Yet she pretends to.

Posted by: burlydave | September 14, 2010 2:25 PM

LMAO someone who calls himself burleydave calling other people fat. Face it Burly one, you are just plain jealous. Class envy. Want to share what other people made for themselves without doing anything for yourself.

Typical burly lib. Gimmee gimmee gimmee. Why should you have nice clothes and a nice house and I don't? Waaaa


Something tells me it is you who Feeds regularly at the public trough.

Posted by: Straightline | September 14, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Burley Dave - You must have read and are following Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals". Attack, ridicule, AttackridiculeAttackridicule!! Sarah ain't running Dude!! Them fat Tea Party folks are the same ones Barry pointed out during the campaign. At home, hiding behind their guns & bibles. Even if they were they are not any more. They are out, they are registered and they will vote by the millions!!

Posted by: veritas7 | September 14, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Having watched the Democrats go over the cliff on the left, the GOPers seem determined to leap off the cliff on the right.

Posted by: droberts57 | September 14, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: SayWhat5 | September 14, 2010 10:51 AM

It's all about shrinking the size of our government and getting back to common sense values and ideas. You know, the stuff this country is made of, and the stuff that has always made it great.

The Tea Party isn't about left or right, it's about right and wrong.

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So tell us again what shrinking the size of government is.

How about closing 95% of the USA's 900+ overseas military bases.

How about eliminating subsidies for agriculture ethonal production, big oil subsidies, military industrial complex ....

I didn't think so.

Posted by: knjincvc | September 14, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Saywhat5 said: "...You can rant, rave, jump up and down, stop your feet, lie (which is what the loony left does best), and hold your breath until your face turns blue..."

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WAIT! You just described the tea party recommendations for behavior at a town hall meeting!!!

I think you meant to say "(which is what the loony RIGHT does)"

Posted by: TOMMYBASEBALL | September 14, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I saw O'Donnell on the news last night complaining about Republicans who follow the Democratic line "lock, step and barrel." This woman is easily as dumb as Palin.

Posted by: rashomon | September 14, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, we were only half paying attention to the news last night, and we heard this comment from the Palin wanna be. We both looked at each other and said, "lock, step and barrel?" Wow. I don't know what else to say.

Posted by: biggirl90 | September 14, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

droberts57 - Both Republican and Democratic Parties leaped off the free trade globalization cliff back under Clinton. The only reason the Tea Party has ben associated with the Republican Party is because their rules allow it. The Democratic Party is such a tightly knit and controlled machine, it is very difficult to get genuinely independent candidates "infiltrated". After this election, though, with the public employee unions discredited and marginalized, you are VERY likely to see the Tea Party moving into the Democratic Party, too. We mean to, eventually, construct a viable third party that sponsors genuine representative voices of the voters. The big corporations, Wall Street, the insider and elite see that, and their K-Street mouth pieces are attacking. They either lose or they will so foul their nest that they lose anyways. The Tea Party needs people to recognize that the two old parties represent big business and big government, not you or I. That is the whole reason behind the hysteria of people like Dionne and Limbaugh and Obama and McConnell and Pelosi and Graham. They see their elite status disappearing, an end to free trade, an end to job outsourcing, a end to the neo-marxist globalization schemes.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

"But my hunch is that a lot of them would quietly mourn if Castle, a guy of old-fashioned decency, were to lose."

For elitists like Dionne anyone who votes against the establishment/status quo is going "off the edge"

Posted by: BobRoss | September 14, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

will the dems go further left...
thats the question you should ask...
if you had the guts...

Posted by: DwightCollins | September 14, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

we need to outlaw the republican party,
they are racist and christian extremists.
these baggers of Tea are the barney fifes' of the blogosphere...
they ain't got a clue how to type'
with more then their pointing at' finger.

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 14, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

The problem with teabaggers in particular and Americans in general is that they don't understand that the world has changed and a nation of 300 millions cannot compete against 6 billion, you have to adapt or become irrelevant. If you keep doing your thing thinking that the US is still nr 1 and who cares what happens outside you are going to have a very rude awakening, teabaggers simply have no idea of what lies outside of the US and that it holds most of the US debt. Also other systems are proving successful, European economies are rebounding much better than the US as are Asian and south american ones, even Canada is doing much much better than us. electing teabagger will only send us into isolationism, a thing we really cannot afford in this changed geopolitical climate

Posted by: biglio | September 14, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"lock, step and barrel." is like when Palin said people who oppose her have "another THING comming" (emphasis mine).

Apparently membership to the tea party requires a new level of illiteracy, this time cultural (lock, STOCK and barrel"; "another THINK coming" - as in "If that’s what you think, you’ve got another think coming.")

When you try to sound more down home than you actually are you should at least get the aphorism straight before you trot it out.

Posted by: TOMMYBASEBALL | September 14, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Dionne

Asking if the Tea Party will go to extremes is like asking if Pirates will go a-Buccanering. Thats what they are about. Tea Drinkers will call for wrecking and dismanteling government (except for those programs affecting THEIR members) and Pirates will rape and pillage-Next question.

Posted by: oregonbirddog | September 14, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

The problem with teabaggers in particular and Americans in general is that they don't understand that the world has changed and a nation of 300 millions cannot compete against 6 billion, you have to adapt or become irrelevant. If you keep doing your thing thinking that the US is still nr 1 and who cares what happens outside you are going to have a very rude awakening, teabaggers simply have no idea of what lies outside of the US and that it holds most of the US debt. Also other systems are proving successful, European economies are rebounding much better than the US as are Asian and south american ones, even Canada is doing much much better than us. electing teabagger will only send us into isolationism, a thing we really cannot afford in this changed geopolitical climate

Posted by: biglio | September 14, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Dionne and Robinson can do a hit piece everday until November 2. It will have absolutely no effect on the elections. The Liberal idiots are toast and they know it. So you think Liberals are smarter then Conservatives. Lets take a closer look at that statement.

Obama graduated law school at the age of 27-28 and claims to be constitutional scholar. Mark Levine graduated law school at the age of 21 and worked in the Regan Administration before he turned 30. Obama thought there were 57 states. Obama should thank god for Affirmative Action.

Joe Bidden - No need to say anymore about that idiot.

Pelosi - Yea, real smart woman we have there.

Harry Reid - Could not spell CAT it you spotted him the CA.

Barnie Frank - Did not know that Freddie & Fannie were in trouble. Real smart guy we have there.

Chris Dodd - So smart he did not know he was getting sweet heart mortage deal from Country Wide. Hey, just like the 2000+ bills they put forth, no time to read the fine print.

Allen Grayson - Man real winner there from FL. Was going to say he was dumb as a box of rocks but did not want to offend rocks.

Posted by: Cobra2 | September 14, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I love the WaPo change in tactics. Now rather than directly attack the Tea Party they find it necessary to try and terrorize the conservatives by villifying the Tea Party. Interesting that a few "ignorant, rednecks, barney fifes, etc. (liberals' descriptive words)would cause such fear within the intellectual, elite, chosen leaders, group. Why are you scared, you're smarter, you said so. You are more sophisticated, you said so. For loved by the "real people", you said so. You have a majority in Congress, you said so. You have a President in office, you said so. What are you afraid of???? The truth? Guess so because it is the one thing you do not have.

Posted by: staterighter | September 14, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

All of a sudden the Koch brothers' shills posting on here are talking about doing away with "free trade", the policy that has destroyed America's prosperity. If I believed them I might join the Tea Party myself. BUT THEY'RE LYING! Corporations like NAFTA and the other trade deals pushed through by both parties and the TP never goes against the CEO class which created and funds it. They want to do away with Social Security, Medicare, the minimum wage, and workplace protections. Because our Democratic president is African-American, the Tea Party gets yahoos to vote against their own interests to validate their bigotry.

Posted by: dnahatch1 | September 14, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

DwightCollins, Democrats haven't been moving further to the left at all. Rather, the "center" is now "the far left" according to ultra conservatives. Take a look at the political compass for the 2008 US Presidential Election:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2008
Notice where all of the serious candidates are?

Posted by: Duodenum | September 14, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Post - from printing the funny pages to being the unintentional source of laughs, from journalism to JournoListers, from readable to laughable, from being read in newsrooms to being used in bathrooms, and from Supreme Court to Bankruptcy Court. Irrelevant and increasingly representing only the liberal fringe. There's always a place in Socialist Utopias for useful fools, but it seems even now Castro and Company see the error of their ways (oh no, what are radicals who still, incredulously, enjoy the Capitalist way-of-life in the USA to do now)? I guess you can always move to the PRC (oh, that's gone capitalist (sans liberty) too). Venezuela? If you like street violence with your Utopia I guess.

Posted by: frankensundae | September 14, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Take out the name Mike Castle and insert Joe Lieberman. There was no room for a moderate Liberal in the Democratic Party. Don't recall Dionne ranting on that issue. Dionne is a small bitter man and needs help. Liberals Suck!

Posted by: Cobra2 | September 14, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party. Because the Klan needed rebranding.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | September 14, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

You yearn for the Republicans who were content with being the minority party from the time of Roosevelt until Newt Gingrich (resenting and disparaging Reagan in the interim). You yearn for a primary system in which Democrats could choose the Republican nominee. You yearn for a consensus built around a gradual evolution from private enterprise to a command economy. And yes, as another commenter noted, you uses pejoratives in lieu of actually addressing the Tea Party position - that we have incurred and are incurring too much government debt at a level which will leave no room for private enterprise, but will require that the public sector spending and taxation to support it control and dominate all social activity in the U.S. It is a dishonest and unfair position to take.

Posted by: dante99654 | September 14, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

For Dionne and his liberal hangers-on any large contingent of voters composed of Americans who are predominantly white, who oppose the further growth of left-wing governments, state and federal, and who demand representatives who will lower taxes is definitely extremist. Liberals prefer governments that will take care of them from cradle to grave.

Posted by: mhr614 | September 14, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I thought Liberals were ok with Teabaggers who are by nature homosexual men. What gives? Ha Ha! Liberals control every branch of the Government with the exception of the Supreme Court and are still bitter. Just a miserable lot of individuals. Can you imagine how they will act come November when Nancy pass's that gavel back to the GOP. Man I am going to get a life size poster of that event. Liberals Suck!

Posted by: Cobra2 | September 14, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Cobra2 - Oh, cut it out There is nothing wrong with liberals or with liberalism. What is wrong are "progressives", big government, security seeking, fuzzy minded one world bedwetters. Jefferson was a liberal. I am a liberal, albeit a Tea Party liberal as are most of my friends. And, the neocon counterparts of Obama's lemmings, the Gingrich, McConnell, Graham, Boehner elite of the Republican Party are every bit as bad as Obama and his rats nest of elitist and assorted lemmings. Unthinking clodhopper of every political persuasion, bigots, racists, they are the problem.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

What I like to do with these various political strategies is reverse them and for example imagine the Democrats fighting an intra-party insurgency that would push to an extreme and even having a prominent Democrat that had maybe run for Veep and lost heading up a pincer movement to select party ditto heads. Obviously the repuglican party would not know what to do but like thje fact that there is turmoil in the opposition. Maybe even find a way to encourage it. But literally the Tea Party movement has already won. They have forced both Houses in Congress to fear them. For repuglicans it means that the moderate is gone/dead and the vacuum created will be amply filled by the Democrats.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld1 | September 14, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Let me echo what a lot of other posters on here have said - I have no clue what this means:
"It's all about shrinking the size of our government and getting back to common sense values and ideas. You know, the stuff this country is made of, and the stuff that has always made it great."

Considering that for the past thirty years the government has been run mainly by the GOP (GOP congress for most of Clinton's years in the White House), the GOP has no idea what reducing the size of government means. The only president to reduce the size of government was Clinton with the "welfare-to-work" program. And all that did was create more poverty and inequality in America.

I'm guessing the people who espouse this idea also have no idea what that statement means, either.

Posted by: knoelle11 | September 14, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

There is a definate inertia in the GOP's descent into extremism. This is how revolutions end up "devouring" their children, as the French say. The most radical elements hold sway because moderates have nothing to offer in exchange for the intoxicating euphoria of "regime change." The mob is in control and there are no leaders who dare try to arrest its flow until it's claimed its victims and tires of the bloodletting.

Posted by: TedFrier | September 14, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Interesting letter today from the Chairman of the Florida GOP to President Obama regarding his opposition of the President's speech to high schoolers last year.

"I found that many withIn the GOP have racists views and I apologize to the President for my opposition to his speech last year and my efforts to placate the extremists who dominate our Party today."

Not a lot of wiggle room for Tea Partiers.

Posted by: xdougwhite | September 14, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

ROTFLOL!!! As the shrill screeching of the loony left fades into nothing more than background noise November nears…

NOBODY is even LISTENING to the loony left anymore. Their out of touch opinions don't mean anything anymore. They rant, rave, jump up and down, stop their feet, lie (which is what the loony left does best), and hold their collective breath until their faces turn blue, but it just doesn’t matter.

The country is in an awakening. It's moving back to common sense values and beliefs and there's nothing that the progressive socialist machine can do about it.

What's interesting to watch are the various displays of hatred and intolerance that is expressed by the left over all of this. It sheds light on who these people really are and how they operate.

Posted by: SayWhat5 | September 14, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I love how the fools at the WashPOS just can't grasp what is happening this election cycle. Just goes to show how irrelevant they have become. Makes me smile.

Posted by: BadNews | September 14, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

All the moral indignation of the Tea Party types disguises the undeniable fact that anger short-circuits intelligence. When you are angry you don't listen, you lecture, abuse, yell, or justify yourself. When you are angry you don't sift through evidence and draw fact-based conclusions, you believe whatever feeds your anger and your self-righteousness. When you are angry, you demonize your opponents and worship your heroes, who feed your anger and demonize your opponents... does any of this sound familiar?

Posted by: Pheidole | September 14, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

To Pheidole

You sound very angry... Grab a cookie and some milk and settle in for a wonderful election cycle. :<)

Real change you can really believe in is coming starting this Fall. Not the hopey changey kind, the real thing. Brought to you by the American people.

Posted by: SayWhat5 | September 14, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

The only anger I have heard or seen recently is coming from the left. Glenn Beck's get together was bright, sunny, happy and positive. That is what the Libs are really ticked off and terrified about.. Just plain "Folks" who fed up and still they are having fun and enjoying watching the "Progressives" crumble.

Posted by: veritas7 | September 14, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

The fairest way to cut the tax bills of the hardworking middle-class people of America is to ensure that the rich pay their fair share.

Yet, it is continually interesting, that the chief side effect of the addictive rhetoric of the 'TEA Party' is a blindness to the fact that the Bush tax cuts are provably responsible for the greatest wealth transfer in American history -- from the middle-class to the rich.

And in any event, after the repeal of the Bush tax cuts, tax rates will be at Reagan-era levels.

If the Bush tax cuts on those earning $250,000 and above are repealed -- as the law that President Bush signed says -- you'll see the national debt go down, you'll see more jobs created, you'll see the stock market go up and you'll see your own tax bill stay the same for years and years and years.

All this is true because we know from the facts that:
* The rich don't spend tax cut dollars or invest them -- they move them offshore or save them.

* The rich put their extra dollars in to high-risk investments, not the stock market. Under pressure from return to Reagan era tax rates, the rich will roll over the dividends and hold stock, rather than heading for risky, insider deals.

* The rich have come to believe that the Government of the United States is merely an appendage of their personal affairs. Government by organized money is more dangerous than government by organized mob. We have a constitutional elected government to decide our affairs, not lobbyists and PACs paid for with proceeds from Bush tax cuts.

* Hiring will increase because business expansion will be preferable to paying Reagan era tax rates. Under the Bush rates, there is the perverse incentive by the rich to put money into untaxed, exotic risky investments that don't lead to increased economic development anywhere, except their own bank accounts.

TEA Party people unite! End the biggest wealth transfer in American history!

Support the restoration of Reagan Era tax rates! Support the rule of law! -- Allow the Bush Tax Act to be executed as it was written by Congress and signed by President Bush.

The tax cuts expire, by law. To do anything else would be to thwart the will of the people, who voted in that Congress and President Bush, who set those tax rates to expire.

Support freedom! Support the return to Reagan era tax rates! End the government-sponsored wealth transfer caused by the Bush tax cuts!

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | September 14, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

crybabies this is real change. sorry you just don't get it.

Posted by: jlbliemeister | September 14, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

No one cares what you think, EJ Dionne.

No one.

Posted by: etpietro | September 14, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

The only anger I have heard or seen recently is coming from the left. Glenn Beck's get together was bright, sunny, happy and positive. That is what the Libs are really ticked off and terrified about.. Just plain "Folks" who are fed up and still they are having fun and enjoying watching the "Progressives" crumble.

Posted by: veritas7 | September 14, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

"They're extreme." "They're strange." "They're extremists." "They're threatening."

Nice use of Dem talking points EJ. I wonder what you'd write about if you had to do your own thinking.

Posted by: bandmom22 | September 14, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

"We have a constitutional elected government to decide our affairs,"

That comment came from Nemo. The problem in a nutshell. Do you want the government to decide your affairs.??

Posted by: veritas7 | September 14, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I have decided this is my last Dionne column. The man is provocative rather than substantive. He inflames rather than informs. His few ideas are less insightful than foolish. He writes for attention rather than to educate. He defends by offending. He is a reactionary, and he is dishonest. My time is better spent elsewhere. He is gone from me.

Posted by: bbwk80a1 | September 14, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Dems take the cake, with their senate candidate in SC. Alvin Greene is (a) unemployed, (b) charged with a sex crime, and (c) can barely complete a sentence when he is interviewed.

And then you have Phil Hare, Dem congressman from IL, who freely admits he doesnt care if the health care bill is unconstitutioal.

nancy pelosi has said the same thing in not so many words.

What could be more extreme than NOT CARING about constitutional constraints? That's Bush black-site material.

Posted by: dummypants | September 14, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideas and policies is follish.... Instead, the the two parties should be almost identical, so that he American people can throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound or extnsive shifts in policy. Then, it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but ill still pursue, with new vigor, approximately he same basic policies" -- CARROLL QUIGLEY, "Tragedy and Hope", the author/inventor of Free Trade.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it interesting that from one valid perspective, the Government of the United States is under siege by a selfish attack by a powerful minority, paid for by money freed up by the Bush tax cuts?

The proud, decent Americans who go to TEA Party choreographed events are supposed to have pretty good BS detectors.

Yet, it doesn't seem to occur to them that the tax cuts for the rich represent a powerful, selfish interest -- and that the money kept from those tax cuts is paying for this blitz upon out constitutional government.

The Bush tax cuts favored the rich. Yet, the Constitution goes on and on about taxes having to be equally apportioned by state or by person. And then there's basic fairness -- why should a person get a bigger tax break because they are rich?

What are we fighting for, TEA Party people?
If its fairness, then the fight is against tax cuts for the rich.

If its preserving the Constitution, then the fight is against tax cuts for the rich.

If its about the rule of law, then its about following the law, which says that the tax cuts must expire.

Real TEA Party people back repeal. That's what the Constitution says. That's what the law says. That's what fairness demands.

Back repeal.

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | September 14, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

What are we fighting for, TEA Party people?
If its fairness, then the fight is against tax cuts for the rich.

If its preserving the Constitution, then the fight is against tax cuts for the rich.

If its about the rule of law, then its about following the law, which says that the tax cuts must expire.

Real TEA Party people back repeal. That's what the Constitution says. That's what the law says. That's what fairness demands.

Back repeal.

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | September 14, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

The mantra of grow the udder teat for a big treat, has APPARENTLY realized that belongs to a fatty Fed which likes to control people.
Only a few short months ago the extremeist Acorns were convinced T E A was a rumor.
It appears there is a need to define extreme, Mr Dionne.
Biting off fingers, knocking dowqn buildings and threatening murder to a person who burns a book seems to define extreme for many.

Posted by: dottydo | September 14, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

The mantra of grow the udder teat for a big treat, has APPARENTLY realized that it belongs to a fatty Fed which likes to control people and grow itself fatter from their hard earned money from wallets.
Only a few short months ago the extremist Acorns were convinced T E A was a rumor.
It appears there is a need to define extreme, Mr Dionne.
Biting off fingers, knocking down buildings with planes, and threatening murder to a person who burns a book seems to define extreme for many.

Posted by: dottydo | September 14, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

The repeal of the Bush tax cuts would mean fairness, for once.

The rich get richer because they can buy the government they want, including one that cuts their taxes and not the middle class or the poor.

And there's the Constitution -- it says that taxes have to be uniform and fair. Tax cuts for the rich aren't fair.

And then there's the law -- President Bush signed the law, and that law said the tax cuts expire. If they let it expire, then they'd show they have respect for the law and for the president and Congress the People elected.

And then there's common sense. Sure, if the government I bought cut just my taxes, I'd want to keep my sweet deal forever, too. Common sense tells you all this noise about tax cuts is coming from people who got their own sweet deal at everybody else's expense. Of course they'll raise a ruckus about it, and send out their lobbyists and their PACs to keep it for them.

Real TEA Party people (and its' TEA, not Tea BTW), want fairness, the rule of law and common sense in Washington.

They want the tax cuts to repeal.

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | September 14, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Nemo, Nemo - The old class warfare routine. The money people earn at all levels is their money, not the Government who you want to control your affairs. The individuals who are the top earners are the ones who invest, spend, increase profits and consequently provide more jobs. You tax the providers of jobs and career opportunities and soon you will have no jobs or opportunity for anyone other that what the Government decides you need from what others have earned. That, my friend is called Communism. WE NOW HAVE CREEPING SOCIALISM under Obamma. Want more? Castro now that he has been wrong. They are now allowing for 50,000 individually owned small businesses. Good old supply and demand in the market place in Cuba. Can you believe it?

Posted by: veritas7 | September 14, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

1EgoNemo - Excuse me. The Tea Party could care less about tax cuts for the wealthy. You are confusing us with the Neoncon wing of the Republican Party.

"The Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of the society which originated in England ... [and] ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established." Dr. Carroll Quigley

This is the man who influences Bill Clinton, Barak Obama, Mitch McConnell, Bernanke, Geithner, Summers, Paulson, Bush, Boehner, our entire leadership class. This is the godfather of Neoconservativism and Multinationalism. Read his writings to understand what you are actually facing.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

So "The Honorable Wing of The Republican Party" raises taxes, runs deficits, destroys civilization as we know it and bankrupts society?
They can go to Hell.

Posted by: tripferguson1 | September 14, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

To E.J. Dionne Jr., a "Blue Dog" Democrat is a "right wing nut job."

Go away Marxist. Your opinion doesn't matter.

Posted by: FormerDemocrat | September 14, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

droberts57 and mibrooks27 ~ the Democrat party has several coalition members. Without naming all of them suffice it to say that your route through the chairs of the party organization depends to a considerable extent on the relative strength of support of your particular faction.

This is why you end up with candidates for Congress in Chicago who are running for no other reason than that it is "my turn". They finally arrived at a position in the party where their personal seniority is sufficient to run on behalf of the coalition.

The Republican party is organized quite differently, with its factions more nearly representing wholesale, retail and technocrat/management ~ that is, traditional trade/class differences.

With the mass retirement of the Baby Boomers currently taking place a new seprate mid-level Ownership Class should have popped up, and there it is ~ the TEAParty.

Democrats have a difficult time understanding the Republican structure and imagine that it can be split.

Inasmuch as its constituent parts tend to change personalities with the vicissitudes of personal fortune rather attainment of position within a constituent coalition partner (moving, for example, from retail to wholesale when one gets truly filthy rich ~ rather than moving from SEIU janitorial assistant to UAW senior machinist when one gets a real man's job) it's simply impossible to "split" the party. Most of the rich people used to be less rich, and many of the social conservatives could care less about the rich part. They already have different ambitions and interests, but they do know they must control legislative bodies to avoid being plundered by the Democrat drones.

Posted by: muawiyah | September 14, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

The Tea PArty has already won by changing the whole tone of teh debate.

Posted by: drjcarlucci | September 14, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

To Pheidole

You sound very angry... Grab a cookie and some milk and settle in for a wonderful election cycle. :<)


Posted by: SayWhat5
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Wow. Talk about a lack of self-awareness.

Posted by: ablum1 | September 14, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Finally, political philosophy counts more than electablility. This is to be commended. Politics as a sport and the individual states desire to keep someone in who can bring home the bacon have put us here. If we get guys in there that reflect our values rather than our regional desire for power and influence we might actually get somewhere. Far too many politicians have been in thier seats too long because of the advantages of tenure when they have become irrelevant to the discussions of today. Principles over power is a good start, maybe the party needs to be thrown off a cliff, we need to be represented, not placated.

Posted by: 12think | September 14, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Finally, political philosophy counts more than electablility. This is to be commended. Politics as a sport and the individual states desire to keep someone in who can bring home the bacon have put us here. If we get guys in there that reflect our values rather than our regional desire for power and influence we might actually get somewhere. Far too many politicians have been in thier seats too long because of the advantages of tenure when they have become irrelevant to the discussions of today. Principles over power is a good start, maybe the party needs to be thrown off a cliff, we need to be represented, not placated.

Posted by: 12think | September 14, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

"Nemo, Nemo - The old class warfare routine. The money people earn at all levels is their money, not the Government who you want to control your affairs. The individuals who are the top earners are the ones who invest, spend, increase profits and consequently provide more jobs. "


Ah, Old Trickle Down.

That old story would make sense if Bush had cut each person's taxes the same. He injected class into it first by providing great favors to a person based upon their income.

So how is it that when the rich are singled out for special favors it's not classist, but when that favor's special quality is pointed out, it is?

The recipients of the unfair tax cuts protest too much, just as they give themselves too much credit.

Restore fairness, support the expiration of the tax cuts.

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | September 14, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party hasn't won anything yet. The first thing we have to do is put a stop to the slander of elite public influence peddlers like Dionne, who have managed to mold public opinion about the Tea Party. The have been very successful in influencing opinion that the Tea Party is composed of extremists, racists, ultra-conservaives, conspiracy theorists, or just plain nut jobs. Most of the posters piling on, here, and elsewhere, don't have the slightest idea of what he Tea PArty stands for, what the members believe, they just spout the nonsense and slander the Dionne's of the journalism world out in their mouths. They are nothing more than echo chambers.

The Tea Party is for ending the march toward "the new world order", the global economy, free trade, and the dismantling of the US in favor of multinational corporations, the wealthy, he elite, and the political class. It is neither liberal nor conservative but it's members are drawn from people with liberal and conservative ideologies, with the shared belief that the road we are marching down will lead to our economic, national, and personal ruin.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Thanks EJ, one of the only realists in today's media.

Posted by: MuslimWarriors | September 14, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

The right wing Tea Party hacks are in a competition among the American public trying to prove who is more "American" than the next guy, trying to prove who is more "patriotic", and who loves this country more.

In the end we are all Americans, some of us are brighter and smarter and more able to think freely, than other people, and I'm not talking about the Tea Partiers.

The Tea Partiers are sheeple that find common ground among other angry and bigoted people. On one hand they hate their own govt., which in effect means that they hate their countrymen, which in effect means that they don't understand their countrymen or country. This anger fuels the hate and bigotry that has consumed this group of wistful and unintelligent people.

For starters the Tea Party aligns itself with the Republicans, whom for the 8 long years beginning in 2000 were in charge of the country. The Republican Party doubled the size of govt., drug us into to two wars, both of which consumed (and continue to consume) enormous amounts of our countries wealth. The Republican led White House also fostered copious amounts of corruption on Wall Street, eavesdropped on American citizens ad nauseaum based on false pretenses, and ruined Americas image.

The Republican Party is a party of, for, and by the rich corporate interests that place money before human dignity, and it is this party that the Tea Partiers have aligned themselves.

The Tea Partiers are followers, not leaders. Where were they between 2000 and 2008 while Bush was selling out our country and making it go broke? Just curious.

The Tea Party has no credibility or integrity, and will whither away just like Ross Perot did in the early 90's.

Posted by: burlydave | September 14, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Nemo & Burley Dave - You are whistling by the graveyard. Point out where Communism has worked please. This guy is a Marxist, Leninist, Maoist stooge. A limited form of Socialism works in Scandinavian countries because the have citizens who can work and participate and DO. We have an albatross placed on our neck starting with Johnson's Great Society.

Posted by: veritas7 | September 14, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

veritas7 -

Communism, socialism, marxism, maoism? I'm not sure what it is that you are talking about.

None of the "ism's" that you brought into the discussion have anything to do with Obama. I know you think that they do, but they don't.

An "ism" that should be brought into the discussion is "fascism", and that is an "ism" that the Tea Party group and right-wing Republicans can relate.

The Tea Party fanatics exaggerate dubious threats, lie, race bait, and want the US govt. to eliminate a womans right to choose, and a couple right to legally bind their relationship. They are also willing to trade freedom for short term security measures that are without merit.

If you'd like to discuss what ails America you had better do some historical research on policy decisions made by the Bush White House between 2000 and 2008. That would lend some credibility to your snarky snippets.

Posted by: burlydave | September 14, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

well, EJ, against my better judgement, I read your whole piece. Still waiting for the "extreme" part of O'Donnell. Do tell?

Posted by: silencedogoodreturns | September 14, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least we smoked out "burlydave" today (Dave Griffin, Anchorage Alaska, Alaska DNR employee, SEIU activist, posting on government time). These are sorts of clodhoppers and pests that toss of lies and slander about the Tea Party.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

to all,

as a coordinator for our county's Tea Party (as a group TP folks aren't organized enough & too REBELLIOUS to have officers.), may i simply say that 99.9% of Americans, who are NOT members of the TP (or don't have family or friends in the movement) have NO idea WHAT or WHO the TP is.
what you do have is the KNOWING, hate-FILLED LIES out of the WH, the DNC & the "main-SLIME media", who QUITE RIGHTLY fear our movement. = they SHOULD fear us, because we want to turn them OUT of office!

so, let me tell you a LITTLE about our county's TP members, so that you'll know about ONE (fairly typical) local county organization:
age/race/ethnicity
1. we're about 55% people over 50YO,
2. about HALF of our members are NON-Hispanic whites,
3. about 14% are African-American,
4. about 20% are some sort of Latino
(the days of TX Hispanics being Mexican-American are over. - today we have almost every Central & South American former nationality.)
5. about 3% Jewish,
6. LESS than 1% AmerIndian
and
7. most of the rest "mixed-race".

professiona/income levels
with the exception of a sprinkling of physicians, bankers, small business owners (MAYBE 10% of the total), most of our membership are:
1. skilled tradesmen,
2. oilfield workers,
3. truckdrivers & warehousemen,
4. nurses/schoolteachers,
5. small farmers,
6. local government employees
and
7. retired (MAYBE as much as 20% of our group is over 65YY & retired/semi-retired.)

i KNOW that the LEFTISTS "look down on" people like us because we are NOT "members of the smart set", "fashionistas", "Holly-WIERD" elites/"beautiful people" AND because we are NOT "internationalists".

the LEFTIST ELITES also hate us for our religious faith, church membership, PRO-LIFE stance, support of the Second Amendment to the Constitution, PRO-military opinions AND just because we don't live on the east or west coasts & in a BIG city.

if it sounds like i'm saying that we people from "flyover country" are PLEASED that we are NOT typical of the SELF-important, LOUD-mouthed, ARROGANT, prejudiced, LEFTISTS, you are 100% CORRECT!

ALL most of us want out of Washington is to be LEFT ALONE.
we want NONE of your social experiments, free-spending boondoggles, "federal aid", activist judges, intrusive bureaucrats, BIG TAXES or any other of a thousand things that ELITISTS & LEFTISTS seem to crave. ====> MOSTLY we just want the Congress, the WH & in the bureaucracy to GO AWAY, STOP spending our money, CUT both our TAXES & the SIZE of the federal government, shut down every possible government "alphabet soup-named agency" & live under the same rules, as those you want us to labor under.

truth is, we just want "the politcal elites" in DC to "GET LOST"!

just my opinion.
(i cannot speak for the county TP, absent a vote on each issue.)

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | September 14, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

In Germany in 1933 all the "bums" were thrown out. How'd that work for ya?

Posted by: therev1 | September 14, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

the real cal gal said she'd like to know who's behind the real tea party. Isn't it obvious this is a direct result of all the Fox News watchers. They rile everyone up with lies and simple speak repeat repeat repeat and send them out to march for who knows what. Someone else mentioned the Republicans and Tea Baggers as the working classes Party. Now that is what I think is the biggest harm Fox inflicts. They convince the working class (the only ones watching) that the Dems are taking them down when in fact it's the opposite/Social Sec.,Medicare, Unemployment Comp., Healthcare, and on and on. I'm close to giving up.

Posted by: mikestud50 | September 14, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

burlydave said:

'The Tea Party fanatics exaggerate dubious threats, lie, race bait, and want the US govt. to eliminate a womans right to choose, and a couple right to legally bind their relationship. They are also willing to trade freedom for short term security measures that are without merit.

If you'd like to discuss what ails America you had better do some historical research on policy decisions made by the Bush White House between 2000 and 2008. That would lend some credibility to your snarky snippets.'

I have not seen any of the issues mentioned in the first paragraph as important to tea party supporters. They stand for fiscal restraint, free markets, and limited government. As for the second paragraph, since Bush and congressional republicans (not to mention democrats) failed on these issues, most tea party supporters don't tout Bush either. Why do you think these establishment republicans are having such a difficult time staying on the ticket? The tea party supporters understand not to try the third party gambit.

Posted by: BobThompson | September 14, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

therev1 - Actually, the bums were in charge of the Weimar Republic. They installed Hitler, thinking he was one of them and they could control him. When Hitler went on his rampage, he was backed by the industrialists and multinational corporations of his day. Most of those corporations till exist. They survived the damage, the human misery, the millions of deaths they inflicted on humanity. A lot of those corporations are American. You should do a bit of reading.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 14, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Dionne - Looking at the way you and the democrat party playbook start panicking, you should really start thinking about the spin you (and the other liberal MSM media) have to come up when Christine O'Donnell wins Biden's democrat seat in November.

I bet you'll call all those concerned ordinary citizens (who voted against your candidate Coons) idiots for voting in a tea party candidate!

Posted by: CJ123 | September 14, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Dionne - Looking at the way you and the democrat party playbook start panicking, you should really start thinking about the spin you (and the other liberal MSM media) have to come up when Christine O'Donnell wins Biden's democrat seat in November.

I bet you'll call all those concerned ordinary citizens (who voted against your candidate Coons) idiots for voting in a tea party candidate!

Posted by: CJ123 | September 14, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

We will see how many tea party candidates are able to overthrow Dems in the general Election. It would be a sad thing is someone like Angle could win. I do wonder two things A) Team party wins and slowly merge with Rep party under leadership for continued lobbying support, this moving Reps even further right or B) Dems win outright because voters are scared of non-sensical libertarian views. I know, obvious, but will be exciting to watch.

Posted by: cadam72 | September 14, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

mibrooks27-

I'm actually at home recuperating from a successful moose hunting trip.

Not sure why you felt the need to "smoke" me out, but it's obviously indicative of the type of person you are. Mom must be proud, and the Tea Party prouder.

If you ever make it up to Alaska give me a call and I'll take you on a hunting trip. I'd give you my phone number but you've probably already got it.

By the way, I watched in shame as our senior US Senator (Lisa Murkowski) lost to a relatively unknown guy from Kansas, Joe Miller. This fella was endorsed by Sarah Palin (a true quitter), and financially supported by the California based Tea Party Express. We Alaskans are shaking our heads about this one, especially since the guy has spent the majority of his adult life receiving a federal paycheck, now he's fighting for another one.

Hypocritical is the single best word that sums up the value system of the Tea Party, and slime ball pretty much sums up my opinion of you.

Posted by: burlydave | September 14, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, if the Tea Party were a pro-liberal group, they would be seen as heros by the mainstream media.

It's funny that when liberals can't present a rational argument, they resort to the childish behavior of name-calling.

If those that refer to Ms. Palin and other conservatives as "Dumb" think they could do better, this is a great opportunity to prove it.

Until then, you should pay close attention to what they say, and why they are so successfull with so many people.

Posted by: DaveInAZ | September 14, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

There is not ONE republican alive today - ANYWHERE ON EARTH - that is qualified to hold public office - on ANY LEVEL. NONE.

Just ask the head of the party - the flying fatman from palm beach that now claims he "OWNS" - literally the district he lives in so there's your party mantra.....Lose..Lose...Lose.....and LIE... LIE... LIE.

Posted by: rbaldwin2 | September 14, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Burley - Take a University Course in Comparative Economics and then come back and we will contrast and compare. We will start with creeping socialism (where we are NOW) and take it through the various phases. Here is Obamas Game plan:

1. Retribution - Getting even for what was done to his "People"

2. Reparations -Payback for his people.
Sub prime loans, etc. Johnsons Great Society - a continuation under Obama

3. Redistribution - Taking away from you what you have earned and giving it to someone else who hasn't.

Just a brief profile and it will continue until he gets shut down in Nov. Lame Duck from there on in.

Posted by: veritas7 | September 14, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, if the Tea Party were a pro-liberal group, they would be seen as heros by the mainstream media.

It's funny that when liberals can't present a rational argument, they resort to the childish behavior of name-calling.

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Posted by: DaveInAZ
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Thomas Jefferson said it best: "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them"

Teabagger propositions are unintelligible. Ridicule is what they deserve. Come up with some intelligible propositions, some distinct ideas, and you'll get reasonable discourse.

Posted by: washpost18 | September 14, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Judgement day is almost here.

RIP DNC!

Posted by: wussupdoc | September 14, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

The TP may be squeezably soft, but their efforts at comedy have a very hard edge. Of course it's the democrats who're going over the edge. It's our candidates who're advocating dismantling Social Security (Sharon Angle) and repealing the Civil Rights Act (Rand Paul). It's the left that's "full of hate", but they're running the ads portraying Speaker Pelosi as a witch. We'll see what happens in November, but I'll be surprised if this is where Americans are politically. They may yet have to resort to those 2nd Amendment remedies we've heard so much about (Sharon Angle).

Posted by: tm13 | September 14, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

There is not ONE republican alive today - ANYWHERE ON EARTH - that is qualified to hold public office - on ANY LEVEL. NONE.

Just ask the head of the party - the flying fatman from palm beach that now claims he "OWNS" - literally the district he lives in so there's your party mantra.....Lose..Lose...Lose.....and LIE... LIE... LIE.

Posted by: rbaldwin2


And why should we care what you think?

PS-sure would love to know Obama's qualifications to be POTUS-besides he's half Kenyan.

Posted by: wussupdoc | September 14, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

burlydave ~ unless your people arrived with the Church of the First Born or Faith Assembly (with roots in Brown County Indiana) back in the 1930's your roots are no deeper than those of the fine gentleman who edged out that Murkowski geek.

Even Ted Stevens, one of their relatives, didn't get there until 1948 and by my way of estimating that makes even him a newcomer.

Actually, most of you people in Alaska are "newbies" ~ and even though I've never lived there I have deeper roots in that state than almost any American.

Doggone!

Posted by: muawiyah | September 14, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

veritas7 -

You sound a touch racist with the "his people" rhetoric.

Please explain how Obama is getting even for what was done to "his people" (i.e. Retribution).

Payback? You do know that Obama is half caucasion (white)?

Redistributing wealth...rich people should pay more in taxes period.

One of the reasons that the 80's were successful under Reagan was because he raised taxes on the rich. The spent more and saved less, therefore boosting the economy. Every thinking person knows that when you raise taxes, the rich spend more money, and when you cut taxes they save more money.

Rolling back the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy is the fiscally responsible thing to do. What Bush did was cut taxes and then start two wars. The cost of those wars has to come from somewhere, besides, the Bush tax cuts were designed to expire, they had a sunset date attached to them when they passed. Letting them expire makes sense on many levels.

Posted by: burlydave | September 14, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: wussupdoc | September 14, 2010 7:19 PM

"PS-sure would love to know Obama's qualifications to be POTUS-besides he's half Kenyan."

Well we know Obama is a hell of a lot more qualified then Reagan ($4 Trillion dollar debt) and cheney and GWB combined. (Another 5+ Trillion dollars added to the debt, 6000+ deaths in ME, tanked economy and best of all ... a 10 year projected deficit of $8-12 Trillion Dollars)!!

Posted by: knjincvc | September 14, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm not going to waste any time with you BurlyDave - Try to have a good day. If you want to discus the technical aspects of economics or take a short course in Sociology, I would be glad to have a debate with you. I'm gonna go hide behind my Bible and load my 357 Magnum. :-))))

Posted by: veritas7 | September 14, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT THE TEA PARTY BUT THE REST OF YOU WILL SOON BE GETTING OUR COFFEE.

BYE BYE DEMOCRATS AND RINOS.

Posted by: COOLCHILLY | September 14, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

saywhat5 says "The Tea Party isn't about left or right, it's about right and wrong. It just so happens that the values of republicans are more in line with the values of working Americans and the Tea Party. Therefore you will see the Tea Party aligning more with the right than the left."

The Tea Party is not about left and right, but about right and wrong? Does the Tea Party really think it has some kind of monopoly on knowing the difference between right and wrong? That is the premise on which totalitarian states are built. Is this knowledge of right and wrong like knowing that Health Care reform has "death panels" when there is nothing of the sort in the legislation? Is this like knowing that TARP was initiated by Obama, when it was clearly a Bush initiative? Is this like knowing that Obama is a foreign national when we can all view his Hawaii birth certificate online? Is this deep insight into the difference between right and wrong the same thing that makes you want to eliminate the department of education and throw out civil rights reform?

Who says the Tea Party views align more with "working Americans?" The Tea Party consists primarily of white retirees, so it is odd that it should claim to align with working Americans.

The ability to deceive oneself is perhaps more dangerous than intentionally trying to deceive others. If the Tea Party views align with those on the right, then the Tea Party is on the right. There aren't any two ways about it. To think otherwise is self-deception.

Posted by: ccalvert | September 14, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

This exchange below shows clearly why we're in real trouble:
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There is not ONE republican alive today - ANYWHERE ON EARTH - that is qualified to hold public office - on ANY LEVEL. NONE.
Just ask the head of the party - the flying fatman from palm beach that now claims he "OWNS" - literally the district he lives in so there's your party mantra.....Lose..Lose...Lose.....and LIE... LIE... LIE.
Posted by: rbaldwin2

And why should we care what you think?
PS-sure would love to know Obama's qualifications to be POTUS-besides he's half Kenyan.
Posted by: wussupdoc | September 14, 2010 7:19 PM |
______________________________
And THERE YOU HAVE IT! Not a rational thought expressed from either of them. Plenty of schoolyard taunting, mind you, but no thought . . . . And these people get to vote . . . oy.

[This non-partisan comment was sponsored by AIFORD--Americans in Favor of Rational Discourse. We have a national membership of 14, but with many tens of millions of like-minded others afraid to come out into the open because the idiot screamers from both sides take all the oxygen out of the room.)

Posted by: post_reader_in_wv | September 14, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

veritas7 -

I'm having a great day. Quite honestly I'm fine if the Tea Party crowd wins big during the 2010 midterms because what it will do is remind America voters how moderate Obama is and how extreme the Palinistas are. Plus it will provide some entertainment. Especially the part about dismantling social security, medicare/medicaid, repeal of Obamacare, and of course their ideas about putting Americans back to work, because as we all know already that's not governments role, yet the Tea Partiers whine about the govt. not creating enough jobs.

It's not as if I'm don't know any Tea Partiers, afterall I live in Alaska and interact with them on a hourly/daily basis in some form or fashion.

Maybe I'm high from inhaling the Hoppe's #9 while I sit here cleaning my guns, but if the Tea Partiers win big this election cycle Obama will handedly win come 2012. And I'm fine with that...I'm keeping the change.

Posted by: burlydave | September 14, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Bye Dave - Watch out for those Mamma Grizzzzzlies! Yikes!!

Posted by: veritas7 | September 14, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut,
cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut,
cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut,
cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut,
cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut,
cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut

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Posted by: jimsillan | September 14, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

We are rapidly becoming a Third World nation due to anti-government extremism. The rest of the world will not even benefit from our foolishness, since we are only hurting ourselves. It is painful watching a once great nation self-destruct.

Posted by: samsara15 | September 14, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Far-left moonbat E.J. Dionne accuses somebody ELSE of being extreme?

Now, there's a laugh.

Posted by: thebump | September 14, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Ross says he thinks it’s pretty nervy“some group in Sacramento that doesn’t know our state to come here, destroy our civility, and tell the people of Delaware they know more about our state than we know.
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good quote... Obama and Holder should stop telling AZ how to handle illegal Mexicans!!!

Posted by: ravioliman6666 | September 14, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

What’s interesting here is the notion that for all its grass-rootsy talk, the Tea Party is a nationally led and nationally directed movement"

Run by???????????
or are you too lazy to cite the source?

Posted by: ravioliman6666 | September 14, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Year of uneducated and stupid worn as a badge of honor. Talk about taking the country in the wrong direction.

Posted by: Sally6 | September 14, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party: America's Lobbyist.

Posted by: logicprevails | September 14, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

When do the people ever see Dionne quoting a Republican. When it suits the needs of Dionne. If Dionne can quote and understand Tom Ross, then he can understand this. If Obama walks like a socialist, talks like a socialist and governs like a socialist, then at the end of the day, he's a socialist. If Dionne can get the jest of what Tom Ross said, he can get the jest about Obama being a socialist. You can't have it both ways Dionne.

Posted by: houstonian | September 14, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Eventually, you will get that your attack dog columns only influence your true blue partisans.

Look up, something is really happening in this country. Perot's people and their children might be able to take control of this mess. A lot of people identify, completely with this line of thinking, which isn't racist, doesn't have a sheet in the closet and isn't sure who John Birch was.

Posted by: Gooddogs | September 14, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Tea Partiers have more in common with the Kumbaya crowd than they'd like to believe. They can all sit around and talk about how we'll return to some eden-like state in the US that never really existed- when people worked hard and got what they deserved and where opportunity was available to everyone, where getting rid of social security and medicare is a viable political position. Please. Go to the campfire and sing kumbaya because its not happening here, nor should it.

Posted by: hothouse05401 | September 14, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

"By nominating O’Donnell, the Republicans would hand Coons and the Democrats the seat."

It sure makes me nervous to hear that line repeated over and over tonight - given that the consensus media "wisdom" is usually wrong. Turnout in this year's Delaware GOP primary was almost DOUBLE the 2008 total, and O'Donnell still beat Castle like a drum.

In this case, I hope Dionne (and the Beltway crowd) is right. But this is shaping up as an unprecedented year in American politics. The angry, paranoid, nutbag right is on the march, and where it ends is anybody's guess.

If I were the Democrats, I wouldn't be celebrating just yet.

Posted by: PeterPrinciple | September 14, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

burlydave,

BHO is "moderate" in the exact same way that sewage is clean.

what he IS is: arrogant, LOUD-mouthed, not particuliarly intelligent, a LIAR, SELF-important, SCRIPTED by others who are more intelligent/ruthless than he is (frankly that's not difficult.) and headed in 7 weeks to being America's LEAST ABLE & most reviled POTUS.

i've suggested (only 1/2 in jest) to other TP organizers that we offer to send the Obamas on a FULLY paid 2 year luxury vacation abroad. - "relaxing in the sun" is what BHO does BEST.
alternatively, we could endow an academic chair for him (at say 200,ooo a year for life) in Paris. = he could teach American law to students, who like the USA just as little as he seems to.

just my opinion.

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | September 14, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Tea Party candidates are protest candidates and a huge gift to the Democratic Party. They have torn the Republican Party to shreds and essentially given Obama the White House in 2012. If they can find their way to D.C., what are they going to do then? Eliminate Social Security? Hold hearings on Obama's birth certificate? The White House must already be licking their chops! This is a huge victory for Obama!

Posted by: magnifco1000 | September 14, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

PRINCIPLED PETER: Soooo - eventualy promoted to your level of incompetency: Commenting here! Angry, pararanoid, nutbag right!! What a command of the English language!! Try making an intelligent, comprehensive point instead of this rhetorical drivel!

Posted by: veritas7 | September 14, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

magnifico1000; all,

fwiw, at the current rate, i have as good a chance as BHO does of winning POTUS in 2012. = IF he decides to run again, he will be HUMILIATED, BEATEN & SLAUGHTERED by HRC in the DIMocRATS primary.

then Hillery will be EMBARRASSED by whomsoever the TP chooses to run against her in the fall.

face it, DIMocRATS, your party is FINISHED for a generation (and perhaps FOREVER) by this FOOL, who is temporarily residing in the WH.
SADLY, he's so incompetent that, on his best day, he couldn't lead two drunken sailors into a bawdyhouse.

BHO only TALKS well, provided that his teleprompter doesn't break down AND he is SCRIPTED throughly.
in reality, he is seen by more & more & perhaps by most "regular folks" as an EMPTY suit, a race-BAITER, NOT particuliarly intelligent, a WEAKLING, a BIG MOUTH & an arrogant FOOL, but nothing more than that.

at age 63, i never thought that i would live long enough to see a POTUS, who is LESS competent than Jimmy Carter or more DISHONEST than Richard Nixon.
SADLY, i've learned that i was DEAD WRONG, as BHO is WORSE than BOTH, combined.

IF BHO is the best we can do these days as POTUS, i do NOT see clear skies ahead for the USA. = PITY!

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | September 15, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

You people are a trip. Most of you can't even make a cogent argument without resorting to name calling.. Washington ComPOST, NY SLIME. Evil Liberals, Socialists etc. When did it become a terrible thing for someone to be "moderate". You guys just want to cut or completely remove spending for everything except the military. Anyone to the left of McCain is automatically a liberal or a socailist.. Give me a F^&king break! Anybody that just follows the party line on ANY side of the coin is an issue. Think for yourself people!

I fail to see why it's OK to piss tax money down the toilet in 2 wars while it's somehow immoral to at least try to ensure that everyone in THIS COUNTRY at least gets some expectation of health care. WTF is wrong with people today?

Posted by: charriman | September 15, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

charriman; all,


MOST Tea Party fols want a 20-25% CUT in ALL federal government spending & a RETURN of "current functions" (usurped by the federal government) back to the state & local governments.

frankly, there is so much DUPLICATION of effort, FRAUD, WASTE & ABUSE at the federal level that we can still do EVERY service that is necessary & cut the budget 25%.

let me give you ONE example (that as a retired federal LEO) that i know a lot about: the last time i counted there were over SEVENTY federal agencies that have police/investigators. - each of those agencies have a "supporting bureaucracy" that is doing the SAME functions as every other personnel/administrative/payroll office.====> this DUPLICATION of function WASTES a GREAT DEAL of money for NO good reason.

we could save BILLIONS of dollars each year by cutting those 70+ agencies to TWO = the USMS & the Postal Inspection Service, without losing ANY police/investigative ability! - fyi, the USMS & the Postal Inspectors are mentioned in the Constitution.
(it makes NO difference whatever WHICH BADGE you carry OR which title you have OR which agency you work for - the job remains, functionally, THE SAME.)

the SAME massive waste of money/time/assets happens all across the width & breadth of the government & we simply don't have the money any longer to THROW AWAY for NO positive "return on investment".

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | September 15, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

to all,

let me tell you about another silly/wasteful BOONDOGGLE funded by the federal government. = the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) in 2009 spent over 823,000 dollars to teach BLACK MEN in AFRICA how to properly was their genitals after having sex!
(sounds like RACISM, bureaucratic STUPIDITY & a massive WASTE of $$$$$$ to me.)

such NEEDLESS spending is repeated constantly by federal agencies!

yours, TN46

Posted by: texasnative46 | September 15, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

"We are not going to buy health insurance, or anything else you and Barack Obama have to sell"

We will just keep crowding Emergency Rooms after we have called the paramedics to come pick us up. After a quick stop to cash our Social Security checks, of course.

Posted by: ME90275 | September 15, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

EJ,
Are you married or having an affair with Ruth Marcus? Talk about squishy, nonsensical drivel. You guys must at least have coffee and compare notes. Do you want the Republican party to be the mirror image of the Democrat party? Let the American people have a clear choice. Center Left (Obama, Biden, Pelosi) or Center Right (XXXX, Boehner, Demint.

Posted by: JackReacher | September 15, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

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