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How Obama sabotaged Middle East peace talks

For 15 years and more, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas conducted peace talks with Israel in the absence of a freeze on Jewish settlement construction in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Now, it appears as likely as not that his newborn negotiations with Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu -- and their goal of agreement on a Palestinian state within a year -- will die because of Abbas's refusal to continue without such a freeze.

The Palestinian president's stand has frustrated a lot of people -- including his own prime minister, Salaam Fayyad, and the president of Egypt, Hosni Mubarak, both of whom have said that the settlement issue should not be an obstacle to the negotiations. At a recent dinner in Washington, Fayyad pointed out that any building in the settlements during the next year would have no effect on the outcome of the talks or the future Palestinian state.

So why does Abbas stubbornly persist in his self-defeating position? In an interview with Israeli television Sunday night, he offered a remarkably candid explanation: "When Obama came to power, he is the one who announced that settlement activity must be stopped," he said. "If America says it and Europe says it and the whole world says it, you want me not to say it?"

The statement confirmed something that many Mideast watchers have suspected for a long time: that the settlement impasse originated not with Netanyahu or Abbas, but with Obama -- who by insisting on an Israeli freeze has created a near-insuperable obstacle to the peace process he is trying to promote.

A standoff between Obama and Netanyahu over settlements paralyzed Middle East diplomacy for more than a year, while Abbas happily watched from the sidelines. Netanyahu finally announced a 10-month, partial moratorium on new settlement construction. In July, following a meeting at the White House, it looked like the U.S. and Israeli leaders had overcome their differences. Obama said nothing about settlements afterward, and instead urged Abbas to begin direct talks with Netanyahu.

Yet to the surprise of both Netanyahu and some in his own administration, Obama reintroduced the settlement issue. First in a press conference and then in his September address to the UN General Assembly, he called on the Israeli government to extend the settlement moratorium, which expired on Sept. 26. In doing so, he made it impossible for Abbas not to make the same demand.

In his television interview, Abbas said that Netanyahu had told him that he could not extend the settlement moratorium without causing his right-wing government to collapse. So both leaders are trapped. Netanyahu is a hostage to his cabinet; and Abbas is the prisoner of Obama's misguided rhetoric.


By Jackson Diehl  | October 18, 2010; 11:40 AM ET
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Absolute nonsense - AIPAC talking points!

The rightist regime will now fall and Labour will not remain in coalition, according to HARETZ.

Your argument doesn't hold water - let alone legitimacy because US/EU have gone on record with UN on settlements STOP.

Now that two-state solution is near to resolution, you've the audacity to blame Obama for opposing settlements; bulk of Israeli's oppose settlements, for your info.

There will be a change of government in Israel...and soon!

Posted by: hariknaidu | October 18, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

This is the strangest column I've ever read. Does Mr. Diehl actually believe what he has written here? How did he get this job?

Posted by: tina5 | October 18, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Articles like this show the contempt Israel and the zionists have for America. Do they think we're stupid and gullible? An article that would make Joseph Goebbels proud!

Posted by: ardestani | October 18, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Diehl- your failure to mention or note that the Israeli colonization of the West Bank is completely contrary to international law is difficult to understand in the context of your article.

The colonization is prohibited by provisions of the Geneva Conventions, a host of UNSC resolutions, a ruling of the International Court of Justice and even, in some respects, by Israel's own Supreme Court.

It is Israel's intransigence in refusing to abide by international law, not Pres. Obama's attempts to have Israel conform to that law, that have led to the present impasse.

Your closing words: "Obama's misguided rhetoric" strongly suggest that your views on this issue are less than even-handed.

Posted by: chet380 | October 18, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Kudos to Mr. Diehl for stating the unvarnished truth. Obama's unfortunate, unthinking condemnation on West Bank settlements lost this game before it began. This most obvious of facts should have been the subject of an sharp and cutting editorial in WaPo and NYT but we all know why that's not the case. At least Mr. Diehl has risen to the occasion.

Posted by: tom75 | October 18, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Kudos to Mr. Diehl for stating the unvarnished truth. Obama's unfortunate, unthinking condemnation on West Bank settlements lost this game before it began. This most obvious of facts should have been the subject of an sharp and cutting editorial in WaPo and NYT but we all know why that's not the case. At least Mr. Diehl has risen to the occasion.

Posted by: tom75 | October 18, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

One of the reasons why 15 years of negotiations have had zero results is because there has not been a freeze on settlements.

Last week PM Netanyahu offered to extend the freeze if the Palestinians would recognize Israel as a Jewish state. The Palestinians answered -- show us the map of this Jewish state that you want us to recognize.

Netanyahu has not replied. The ball is in his court and this is where Mr. Diehl should show his concern, if he is truly concerned about the state of negotiations.

Posted by: paul4sure | October 18, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Yes, we are all prisoners of Obama now....

Posted by: ZZim | October 18, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"It's better to be thought a fool then open one's mouth and prove it". Apparently Obama never read this, or at least has such a megalomanic attitude that he never even dreamed it could apply to him. This guys is dumber than W on his worst day. At least when W said something stupid it was not strategically important. This guy spouts off at the mouth like a fire hydrant not considering the implications of what he says.

Posted by: jasonmason | October 18, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

The premise here is ridiculous: by reinforcing decades of US policy (including under both Bushes) that condemns settlement construction in the West Bank, Obama has defeated the possibility of Middle East peace. Wow.

Perhaps the Israeli majority would like to rein in the far right and end this illegal and offensive land grab.

Posted by: sg401 | October 18, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Finally, someone with guts to speak the truth! Too bad the Democratic commenters on this site can't accept that their beloved Obama is terrible joke played on the American people!

Posted by: georges2 | October 18, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I was wondering why there hasn't been peace in the Middle East in my lifetime: A US president had the audacity to say an incorrect policy was incorrect.

And I thought the issue was complex.

Posted by: amaikovich | October 18, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Jewish settlement land grabs and robber baron construction funded by American religious extremeists will never stop until Israel embargos all basic building materials to the settlements such a cement, steel, diesel fuel, etc.

Posted by: cjherzfeld@verizon.net | October 18, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Diehl continues his tradition of shallow, one-sided analysis. This appears to be what the Post wants in a columnist.

Posted by: turningfool | October 18, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh well, just as there were U.S. Nazi sympathizers in 1938 (even Lindberg), there are many neo-Nazi sympathizers of Israel today.
Unfortunately - for any hope of "Peace in our time", the sympathizers of Israel's Nazi rebirth are numerous, wealthy and have a very strong Lobby.

And .... “they” loudly proclaim ANY negative criticism of Israel as anti-Semitic . . . even President Carter's Truthful, Accurate Fair, and Balanced criticisms.

Posted by: lufrank1 | October 18, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

The same usual AIPAC nonsense, we’re the super brains and just people the rest of the world dummies can go to hell right or wrong!

Just imagine this argument, we’ll keep building on your land and you’ve to come talk to us about peace. If you wanted peace, shouldn’t you be stopping all these provocations instead of just blaming the US government or Obama.

We all know peace effort when we see one! But just don’t tell us that it’s because of Obama that the Jewish people don’t want peace….how many years of peace talks now? We rest our case.

Posted by: skennd | October 18, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Contrary to popular belief, the sun does not revolve around the United States. It's not always about us! Israel and Palestine are responsible for making -- or breaking -- peace.

Posted by: kejia32 | October 18, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

whether Obama committed the act attributed to him is beside the point. so long as Israelis continue to settle on the West Bank there will be no lasting peace regardless of what is negotiated for public consumption.

The more radical Jews in Israel are committed to all out Jewish settlements and expansion at whatever costs. And, the radical Palestinian side will not accept any Jews anywhere in the land which is called Israel. These two radical elements have enough power and are dead set on their own zero sum outcomes. No amount of kabuki theatre whomever is involved is going to rectify that problem. Even if a majority of Jews and Arabs might want to cut a deal, these two minoirities are large enough and radicalized enough to keep the killing on going regardless of what a majority might want to do.

The two sides have been killing each other since 1948. Come 2048 it will still be going on and the two sides will not be one inch closer to a reasonable compromise. The United States continues to engage in this charade for God knows what reason except that I guess it is what we are expeced to do.

Posted by: bobfbell | October 18, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Jackson Diehl is just one more highly placed, highly paid, total Zionist pundit. They are the doom of America.

The following is a quotation of clear warning from George Washington upon leaving office, with its crystal clear applicability to our present day slavish subservience to the foul Zionist state of Israel:

“A passionate attachment of one Nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite Nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest, in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter, without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite Nation of privileges denied to others, which is apt doubly to injure the Nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained; and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld."

And with specific reference to all the Zionists such as Jackson Diehl, George says further:

"And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens, (who devote themselves to the favorite nation,) facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.”

To the extent that George Washington is a substantial authority (I say he is) the Zionists are devoted to a foreign country, and against our best interests. Because unending war for Zionism is our doom.

Two endless wars ongoing and a third about to start. Against Iran, for reasons of nuclear WMD which they do not have. Great!

Zionism is racism and unending war.

If that is what you crave.


Posted by: tarquinis1 | October 18, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse


By drawing a hard line, Obama has given Palestinian President Abbas an excuse for backing out of talks with Israel.

But we all knew which side Obama was on when he treated Netanyahu so shabbily at his first visit to the White House last year.

For a so-called nuanced, pragmatist Obama certainly knows how to "step in it."

Posted by: janet8 | October 18, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

So both leaders are trapped. Netanyahu is a hostage to his cabinet; and Abbas is the prisoner of Obama's misguided rhetoric.

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Heck of a job Barry, heck of a job.

Posted by: bbface21 | October 18, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

tarquinis1 wrote:

Zionism is racism and unending war.

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Here's a multiple choice question

What do all these attacks have in common:

- the Catholics in the Philippines (routine slaughter & beheadings)
- the Christians in Indonesia (routine slaughter & beheadings)
- Australian tourists in Bali (blown up twice)
- the Buddhists in Thailand (routine slaughter & beheadings)
- the Hindus & Sikhs in India (hundreds of years battling the Islamic Jihad)
- the Jews in Mumbai (slaughtered)
- the Zoroastrians & Baha’i in Iran (virtually exterminated)
- Islamic converts to Christianity in Afghanistan (death fatwa)
- ancient Buddhist statues in Bamiyan, Afghanistan (blown up)
- the Chaldean Christians in Iraq (routine persecution, slaughter & church burnings)
- the Jews in Yemen (nearly exterminated)
- S. Korean & German tourists in Yemen (blown up)
- the Coptic Christians in Egypt (routine persecution, slaughter & church attacks)
- the Christians & animists in Sudan (genocide)
- the Christians in Kenya (constant Jihadist threat from Obama’s homies)
- the Christians in Nigeria (routine Jihadist attacks)
- U.S. embassies in Tanzania & Kenya (blown up)
- School children in Beslan Russia (savagely slaughtered and terrorized by Jihadists)
- the athiests in Europe (the prime target)
- the native French in Paris (torched car terrorism)
- Jews in Paris (read the grisly story of Ilan Halimi, a Jewish shop clerk who was kidnapped, tortured and killed in 2006)
- the native Swedes in Malmo (Islamic rape brigades)
- the native Dutch in Amsterdam (routinely terrorized)
- Dutch politicians (Geert Wilders & Ayyan Hirsi Ali death fatwa)
- Dutch cinematographers (Theo vanGogh savagely murdered by an Islamist in broad daylight)
- Dutch cartoonists (Kurt Westergaard death fatwa)
- Dutch newspaper editors (Flemming Rose, Jyllands-Posten’s culture editor death fatwa)
- Train commuters in Spain (blown up)
- Tube commuters in London (blown up)
- Airports in Scotland (blown up)
- Twin Tower office workers in N.Y. (blown up twice)
- Defense workers in the Pentagon (blown up by airliner jihadists)
- Army/Navy military recruiters in Little Rock (gunned down by an Islamist)
- Soldiers in Ft. Hood Texas (gunned down by an Islamist)
- Pedestrians at the U. of N. Carolina (run down with an SUV by Islamist)
- Journalists like Daniel Pearl (savagely decapitated by Islamists)
- Nick Berg, Kim Sung-il, Piotr Stanczyk, Jack Hensley, Eugene Armstrong, Paul Johnson (savagely decapitated by Islamists)
- Jewish centers in Seattle (slaughtered by Islamist Jihadist)
- Jewish centers in Toronto (slaughtered by Islamist Jihadist)
- Infidel Delta Airlines passengers (underwear bomber)
- Times Square pedestrians (SUV bomber)
- Soccer fans in Uganda (Blown up while watching the world cup)
- philanthropic Christian medical doctors in Afghanistan (savagely slaughtered by Islamists simply because they were Christians)

A) Zionism

or

B) Islam

Posted by: johnnyboston | October 18, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

your AIPAC crock runneth over

Posted by: areyousaying | October 18, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I am a strong supporter of Obama and find Republican rightwingers' embrace of Israel and Jews personally reprehensible and crassly opportunistic; we are useful to them only as "unsaved," expendable pawns in their wacko "rapture" scenario.
But this column is right on; it is Obama's biggest blunder (well, maybe second after trying to negotiate with Iran).

Posted by: mylesgordon | October 18, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Let's see - the UN has condemned the building of settlements in the West Bank since 1967, but it is Obama's fault for having the balls to ask Israel stop the settlements. Didn't we invade Iraq because neocons like Diehl were complaining about Iraqi defiance of the UN?

The truth is that Netanyahu has absolutely no desire for peace. He just wants to delay and delay so more settlements can be built. If his coalition fails, I say good riddance.

Posted by: maggots | October 18, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Whose side are you on? Are you a citizen of the United States or Israel? Where is your allegiance? Israel will only start acting out in a constructive way once we all stand behind our country and looking after our own interests. Not Israel.

Posted by: ovwong | October 18, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

If the palestinians wanted peace they could have it.....

...the palestinians want Israel gone....

..they cannot have that

Obama is an epic failure anyway, but so long as palestinians want Israel gone there will be conflict.

Posted by: georgedixon1 | October 18, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

If the Israelis continue to colonize the West Bank than there will not be enough land left for a two state solution; so what would be the point of the peace talks.

Posted by: mlang461 | October 18, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Jackson, for a man your age and experience to be seriously crediting what either side says in the Mideast is beyond foolish. The Israelis only agreed to the talks to buy time for

1) final planning of the attack on Iraq's nuclear capacity, and/or the seating of a Congress more hospitable to their intentions, or

2) to see if the computer worm they introduced "stuxnext" really takes effect as planned and gives them a non-violent way to stop the nuclear program.

The Palestinians know that the Israelis under Netanyahu aren't going to give them anything, so Abbas needs to set up a straw man for the failure of the talks AND to plead for more money to support his regime.

Given the history of peace talks, how anybody could think there is a serious chance for a two state end to the current situation is beyond me.

Let's face it, Israel is the ultimate winner, and we are backing the winner. That's such a break from our usual foreign policy expertise, that I'm not worried about who is upset with whom.

Posted by: 54465446 | October 18, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Oh sure... The Palestinians need to shut up and sit still there while Israel takes everything from them. Israeli colonialism is one of the main causes of the unrest in the Middle East which the U.S. has to deal with as a result of our wimp leaders doing Israel's bidding.

Posted by: joecoppo | October 18, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Equivalently, Diehl can argue that no American president should insist that Palestinians prevent violence against Israel during talks, because that's obviously an impossible task too, right?

The issue here is whether Israel is able to keep its promises in negotiations. If Israel is not capable of preventing its citizens from expropriating Palestinian land now, what's going to change when the ink dries on an agreement?

Posted by: jeffwacker | October 18, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

After nearly a year of reading your garbage Diehl I am convinced you are an agent of the Israelis. How else to explain your anti-American blatherings.

Posted by: army164 | October 18, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

After nearly a year of reading your garbage Diehl I am convinced you are an agent of the Israelis. How else to explain your anti-American blatherings.

Posted by: army164
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Bravo!! I see WAPO is back to the usual talking point: Israel good...rest of world bad...


f off, Diehl..

Posted by: LABC | October 18, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

WaPo before an article is published it should contain mostly truths and maybe some opinion but truth should be a requirement.

No one who knows anything about the history of the mideast can read this and expect to take this article seriously. Pres. Obama has been president for a couple of years and the mideast has had problems how long? Oh I don't know - forever.

Posted by: rlj1 | October 18, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse


31 of 41 Current Wars Involve Islam.

Posted by: johnnyboston | October 18, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Yep, no pre-conditions to negotiations....

EXCEPT those placed on israel by EVERYONE ELSE.

naah, hamas doesn't have to agree that israelis are allowed to breath or anything.

Posted by: docwhocuts | October 18, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

There is no Israel-Palestine conflict.

There is no American-Afghanistan conflict.

There is no India-Pakistan conflict.

There is no Russia-Chechnya conflict.

The only conflict being waged is Islam's universal Jihad - and it's behind all of it.

Posted by: johnnyboston | October 18, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Why is everyone so worried. Hillary will resolve this problem is a few days, just as she has resolved the Iranian and North Korean Nuke issues. Since taking office, Hillary has accomplished little more that acquiring a lot of "Freq. Flyer Miles". What a absolute failure. Maybe, she should be the next Democratic Nominee for President.

Posted by: richard36 | October 18, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

@tarquinis1
You have been posting the same tired post for weeks so I know you are definitely a paid poster.
As for this article it is a shameless falsehood. Freeze on settlements has been an issue and another president that demanded this was Bush I. Palestinians have consistently demanded this even Bush II made it an issue even though he did not make it a precondition for talks. To now all of a sudden place complete blame on President Obama for demanding what past presidents also asked for is hackery at its worst.

Posted by: gandalong3 | October 18, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

It would be better that a thousand people die, than one more apartment be built.

Posted by: daweeni | October 18, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

tarquinis1 wrote:

The following is a quotation of clear warning from George Washington upon leaving office, with its crystal clear applicability to our present day slavish subservience to the foul Zionist state of Israel:

“A passionate attachment of one Nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite Nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest, in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter, without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite Nation of privileges denied to others, which is apt doubly to injure the Nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained; and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld."

And with specific reference to all the Zionists such as Jackson Diehl, George says further:

"And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens, (who devote themselves to the favorite nation,) facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.”

To the extent that George Washington is a substantial authority (I say he is) the Zionists are devoted to a foreign country, and against our best interests. Because unending war for Zionism is our doom.

Two endless wars ongoing and a third about to start. Against Iran, for reasons of nuclear WMD which they do not have. Great!

Zionism is racism and unending war.

If that is what you crave.
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WOW! that's prophetic wouldn't you say? Could you post an exact link to where I could find this from George Washington's text?

if it is true he said this, and considering the political definition of "love of country", than why are we allowing our politicos to forget this important message when making foreign policy decisions? Hmmmm.

Posted by: Just_An_Observer | October 18, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

This is the last time I will be reading any article written by Mr. Diehl. It is so asinine and so lacking in context, history, and fact that it leaves me speechless.

Posted by: weilistdu | October 18, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

It is yet another example of the injudicious talk from an inexperienced still-wet-behind-the-ears president who thinks of himself (the Nobel Peace Winner that he is) as capbale of ordering peace in middle east, and having it materialize by Tuesday. He might as well have ordered the sea to recede, or the Banksters to behave.

Posted by: ashrink | October 18, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

O Jackson, here you are bashing our President Obama, ¿do you think this fight is his fault? Theories, this fight can be explained by several theories, there is «desert war» theory, there is «race war» theory, and so on.

«Desert war» theory, these are two tribes, they are cousins, sons of Isma`il against sons of Issac, whichever tribe wins, it throws out the other tribe, Arabs won in First Century A.H., took over Byzantines in Palestine, took over Copts in Egypt, took over Berbers in Algeria, took over East Bank («Jordan») in 1930's and threw out the sons of Issac (Jews), took over West Bank in 1948 and threw out more sons of Issac. Sons of Issac, their tribe took over Coastal Palestine (Zionist entity inside so-called «Green Line») in 1948, threw out many sons of Isma`il, took over West Bank in 1967, re-established settlements that the sons of Issac had settled before 1948, established new settlements. It is all a desert war between tribes, Abbas is a chieftain, Netanyahu is a chieftain, whoever is stronger will win and throw out the others.

«Race war» theory, this is part of a great war, it is 500 years old, white European colonialist imperialists invade Third World, build colonies, «white settler states», oppress Third World people of color, Frantz Fanon says so in Algeria (OK for Third World people of color Arabs to rule over Berbers, not OK for White European Frenchmen to rule over Arabs), Professor Edward Said says so in Palestine, Professor M. Shaheed Alam says so at Northwestern University, he says white imperialist settlers failed in Kenya, failed in Algeria, their white settler states withered away, the only white settler state in Asia is Zionist entity, he says it will also «wither away».

Fools! The world, neither «race war» professors nor «desert war» chieftains run the world, Allah (peace be upon Him!) runs the world, if Allah wants the settlements to stay, they will stay no matter what our President says, no matter what U.N. says, no matter what Netanyahu says! And if Allah wants the settlements to go, if Allah wants all the Zionists to be thrown out from the River to the Sea, then they will be thrown out, ¿why would Allah want such a thing?

Westboro Baptists, they say Allah is punishing USA for allowing homosexuals, they say he is killing USA soldiers. Zionist Army, there is no «Don't ask, don't tell», they allow homosexuals to serve openly, Zionist Bible says at end of 22nd chapter of Leviticus book that Allah
will cause the Land of Palestine to «vomit» the Jews out if they «defile» the land with immoral sexual practices, but the Zionist Army evidently does not fear Allah, and the Westboro Baptists do not warn them, Westboro Baptists do not picket Zionist Army funerals, from the River to the Sea.

Beware, beware, walk with care, and stop bashing our President Obama. This fight is not his fault.

Posted by: abu_ibrahim | October 18, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Israel should build the Gaza Strip for its people.Obama doesn't have the intelligentsia to comment or suggest anything on foreign policy. Obama has been to swayed toward Muslims endeavors to be open minded and see the dangerous road he is building.
I have traveled to many countries and they laugh at Obama when they read articles on his opinions and policies. He is void of commonsense and lacks leadership qualities, surely a fish out of his element. Peace is sustained by power not weak compromise with Muslims. muslim + muslim = MuslimObama

Posted by: famousfatman | October 18, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

we have a boob for a president.

Posted by: rogerGG | October 18, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Settlements are a problem and everyone knows it. Every administration has complained about it, the first Bush admin complained loudly and so did Obama. During the second Bush admin, it was agreed under the road map that settlements would end. The Israelis disputed this and finally agreed to a partial freeze (continue building in East Jerusalem, continue existing projects in the West Bank but no new projects). After much negotiation, Abbas agreed to indirect talks and finally to direct talks. Things appear to be going well. Who would have imagined that the Israelis would not continue the limited freeze of new housing starts in the West Bank? It's bewildering. As to why you are blaming Obama for this, he may have made some mistakes but this column appears to be part of the efforts being made to immunize the Israelis from criticism. There is blame to go around, but this is a bit much.

Posted by: wswest | October 18, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

For shame, Diehl, is this the best you can do?

The issue with Israel and the Palestinians goes back decades and longer, and you blame the failure of the peace process on the US president?

Here is a solution! Let Palestine declare itself a state, unilaterally, as did Israel in 1948! Condemn any country which does not accept the new Palestinian state as a racist entity; have the UN recognize immediately the new state, and declare its borders, according to resolution 242.

Israel has no right to determine the fate of 6 million people, nor to keep them in limbo; who has given this right and authority and power to Israel? No one. As it is, when the Palestinians do declare their statehood, I hope sincerely that the US is the first nation to accept it as so, since we have been pushing for peace for the past 40 years; if we do not, we show that our biases are strongly and firmly in one camp and that the control exhibited by various jewish and israeli groups is definitely true.

Posted by: thasmwm | October 18, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

More bashing of our President Obama! O Famous Fatman, ¿why say that our President «doesn't have the intelligentsia», this is not so, he has most of USA academia behind him, most of them voted for him, Why bash President Obama, why say he does not «suggest anything», he suggested Health Care, did he not? He suggested Stimulus, did he not?

Instead of bashing President Obama for not suggesting anything, O Famous Fatman, ¿why do YOU not suggest something? Something, say, like a «Freedom Flotilla».

When Zionists invaded Lebanon in 2006, Britain sent ships to rescue British subjects from the war, France sent ships to rescue French citizens from the war. Gaza, Britain says Gaza is an «open air prison», Zionist Navy blocks the west side, Zionist Army blocks the east and north sides, Egyption Army has steel wall to block the south side, Hamas thugs oppress the Arabs, throw Fatah officials off the tops of tall buildings, close down recreation centers, they are Dean Vernon Wormer, «no fun of any kind!» Do ships come to rescue the Gaza Arabs? No. Idiots bring them food and trinkets, ¿does someone in prison really want food or trinkets? No, someone in prison wants to be Free!

President Obama, he could rescue the Arabs of Gaza, he could send a «Freedom Flotilla» of empty ships to save all 1.5 million Gaza Arabs from the Zionists and Hamas, the ships would bring them to Detroit, where they would Build Buicks, Not Bombs. Would the Zionists dare to interfere with an American «Freedom Flotilla»?

Posted by: abu_ibrahim | October 18, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

abu_ibrahim,

Since Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists etc face persecution in all 56 Islamic countries, maybe the US should fire up 56 freedom flotillas?

Posted by: johnnyboston | October 18, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Yeah right, its all because of us! Those poor Israelis and Arabs were really trying hard to work it out but goshdarnit, the Americans had to step in and muck it up again. I'm sure if we just left them alone, they would make peace.

Posted by: allknowingguy | October 18, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Thasmwm wrote:

«Here is a solution! Let Palestine declare itself a state, unilaterally, as did Israel in 1948! Condemn any country which does not accept the new Palestinian state as a racist entity;»

O Thasmwm, the new Palestinian state, it cannot be a «racist entity», racism means oppression or exclusion directed against people of color, and the only people who will be excluded from the new Palestinian state will be Jews, who are white European people. The Jordan state, it excludes all sons of Issac («Jews») from living in Jordan, from owning land in Jordan, from becoming citizens of Jordan, and no one calls Jordan a «racist entity», because the exclusion does not exclude people of color. So, no one will call the new
Palestinian state a «racist entity» for throwing out all the sons of Issac.

Thasmwm also wrote:

«Israel has no right to determine the fate of 6 million people, nor to keep them in limbo; who has given this right and authority and power to Israel?»

O Thasmwm, who gave Arab sons of Isma`il the right and authority and power to rule over Christian Copts in the Arab Republic of Egypt? Allah gave Arabs the power, that is Who! If Allah gives the Arabs the power, they will determine the fate of the Zionist entity.

Posted by: abu_ibrahim | October 18, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Diehl's column is absolute madness. Even the proIsraeli group Jstreet is insistent that Israel stop the illegal confiscation of Palestinian land, if only to protect Israel's present status as a Jewish state. If Israel's absorption of Palestinian land and its indigenous people persists, leaving Israeli Jews in the minority in the ever-expanding state of Israel, will Mr. Diehl insist that Israel continue to be thought of as Jewish and democratic?

Diehl is nothing more than a Zionist pretending to be an American journalist.

Posted by: xerocada | October 18, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

It's fashionable to pile on President Obama these days, but most of us know when it is valid and when it's simply over-reaching. I think the author of this piece should know better. If he doesn't, who wants to spend the time to educate him?

Posted by: robinx | October 18, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Abu Ibrahim, I was not stating that Palestine would be a racist entity, only that those who do not accept Palestine as an independent state would be the racist ones.

It is ridiculous that the UN allowed Israel to unilaterally declare itself a state, and the US became the first country to accept this new state.

Yet, despite the fact that the Palestinian authority also declared a state, the US has not accepted this declaration, nor given the Palestinians the recognition necessary.

it is time for the Palestinians to declare their own statehood, declare their borders based on the UN Res 242, and have every nation in the UN accept this, including the US and the various European entities that are so pro-Israel. It is time that 6 million Palestinians had the dignity and resptect due to them to have their own statehood and their own government.

Israel does NOT have the right to determine the fate of these people, neither does anyone else in the world, but we do have the responsibility to accept that such a nation or state needs to exist for the Palestinians, if just to give them some sense of humanity and respect for their postiion.

Posted by: thasmwm | October 18, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Johnnyboston wrote:

«Since Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists etc face persecution in all 56 Islamic countries, maybe the US should fire up 56 freedom flotillas?»

O Johnny, Christians who face persecution in Iraq can leave, and many Christians have left Iraq. Jews who face persecution in Iran can leave, and many Jews have left Iran. Hindus who face persecution in Pakistan can leave, and many (surviving) Hindus left what is now Pakistan in 1947 around the same time that many (surviving) Muslims left India. Gaza Arabs, they cannot leave, they are walled off, they eat whatever scraps of food the Zionists let in through their checkpoints (does that include «Walled-off Salad»?). Flotilla, that is why Gaza Arabs need a flotilla to free them.

Posted by: abu_ibrahim | October 18, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

the Zionists want negotiations and settlements and shall stop negotiations when they finish the land. As you said they have been doing that for 15 years.Did you know that their is international law? Do you know that stealing is prohibited in the 10 commandments?
What AIPAC and the rest of the Zionists are doing is dishonoring the US but some day the people of the US will raise up.

Posted by: mansour112 | October 18, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Would we let Canada or Mexico build on disputed land? It's common sense to insist that someone does not encroach on your territory in the midst of forging an agreement.

Posted by: patr2 | October 18, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

This is clearly one of the most idiotic things I've read in a long while.

Bibi is a puppet for the right-wing, hard-line, no-negotiation-EVER crowd that believe the Palestinians should be forced into the sea - also sounds like YOU!

IF Netanyaya DOESN'T find a way to stop the settlements, which is less than 5% of Israelis that never want to negotiate, then it just means more war, more killing, more genocide and the continuation of basic Apartheid in that part of the middle-east.

The tricky part of this blind-side by Netanyaya is that this whole re-start of settlements may be the final trigger for an all-out war with the Palestinians AGAIN, but this time the conflict will swallow most of the middle-east... IF Iran gets involved this whole situation could get real ugly - real fast.

If you believe this insanity is Obama's fault, you're a bigger loon that even I thought.

Posted by: rbaldwin2 | October 18, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

What else can we expect from diehl the chief spokesman for isrl in Washington-and george well too?

So its both obama and abbas who are stealing palestinian land!!!!!!

Who sabotaged the "the endless process without the peace" before obama came to office-that is during the past sixty years before obama??

Folks do u know that jews now occupy 100% of Arab historic Palestine and have colonized well over 90% of it? Less than 10% of patches of land dotted and mutilated by jewish settlments,military ckeck points,military roads,disconnected from Gaza,w/o Jerusalem,w/o the jordan valley,withou any soverignity and with an apartheid jewish regime and the longest military occupation in modern history?

dihel wants to distract us from the 63 year old jewish occupation of Palestine and the continued theft in full day light of the little land left for the "Palestinian state" which will never materalize:no land or resources are left.

It is all obama and abbas's fault!! Abbas should have kept "negotiating" until jews colonized the last inch of palestine!!!!!!!

diehl has no shame at all and he is a false witness and unworthy of his profession as columnist.

Posted by: asizk | October 18, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

What a idiot this author is. Holy Cow! The Israelis must comply with UN Resolutions 288 and 343, Give up the occupied territories now! Return to the 1967 boundaries. Stop your illegal settlements and give the Palestinians their freedom from Israeli harassment.

Posted by: m1kem1lls | October 18, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Johnnyboston wrote:

«Since Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists etc face persecution in all 56 Islamic countries, maybe the US should fire up 56 freedom flotillas?»

O Johnny, Christians who face persecution in Iraq can leave, and many Christians have left Iraq. Jews who face persecution in Iran can leave, and many Jews have left Iran. Hindus who face persecution in Pakistan can leave, and many (surviving) Hindus left what is now Pakistan in 1947 around the same time that many (surviving) Muslims left India. Gaza Arabs, they cannot leave, they are walled off, they eat whatever scraps of food the Zionists let in through their checkpoints (does that include «Walled-off Salad»?). Flotilla, that is why Gaza Arabs need a flotilla to free them.
====================
Let them go to Egypt. Gaza was Egyptian anyway. Maybe they should escape through all those tunnels - instead of smuggling so many pointless rockets?

Posted by: johnnyboston | October 18, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Why don't we just butt out of that whole stinking craphole.

How did the happiness of israeli's become our problem and responsibility?

Think of the $TRILLIONS we could have saved and the thousands of lives lost because of our idiotic subservience to israeli greed.

Time to CUT THEM LOOSE.

Posted by: rcubedkc | October 18, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps I missed something, but I don't believe that "Obama has sabatoged the MidEast Peace Process". What I think is more likely is that you are a lieing dirt bag on the payroll of Hamas. I assume you post from the Gaza strip, why not make yourself useful and pick up some garbage?

Posted by: michael5 | October 18, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

the article makes no sense. Obama's position is nothing new (it's been the US position forever) and everyone knows it's posturing to make the US look neutral, or at least less biased. Abbas' comment is tongue in cheek - he can't seriously think he can use Obama's statement, that evryone can see behind, against Netanyahu, whose response would be "you're kidding, right?"

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 18, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Using liberal logic the USA should prohibit US citizens from building homes in Arizona so that we don't offend the illegal immigrants flooding this country from Mexico.

Posted by: DCalle10411111 | October 18, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Folks do u know that "isrl" never complied with one single UN reolution since its anomalous creation including the UN181 which "sanctioned" its creation? UN181 assigned illegally 53% of Arab Palestine to alien jewish settlers who invaded and occupied 78% of Palestine in 1948-and occupied the remaining 22% in the jewish invasion in 1967.

Why no punishment to 'isrl' for all its violations of UN and international law?
Simple:instant American veto protects jewish crimes since 1947.

If in doubt check UN documents and archives.

Posted by: asizk | October 18, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

GOOD FOR OBAMA!! and if anyone watched 60 MINUTES sunday night any half-witted person would understand the ZIONIST MENTALITY. only CLINTON & OBAMA have exhibited the courage to explain to the israelis why they are not the ONLY MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RACE. the israelis are extremely dangerous and should be treated like the TERRORIST NATION that they are. other than that i really can't come up with a rational reason why any member should not have the right to defend themselves using any means at their disposal.

Posted by: wa_idaho_lonewolf | October 18, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

What a pathetically one-sided piece of trash. It's not even remotely connected to any American values but comes straight from the Ministry of Propaganda.

Posted by: politbureau | October 18, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Distraction from isrli settlements: While we busy ourselves defending obama and abbas-jews race in stealing more palestinian land and building more settlements.

Posted by: asizk | October 18, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Mark my words:diehl will be the next AIPAC chief.

Oren is the American who renounced his US citizenship to become "isrls" ambassador in Washington.

Where is diehl's sworn loyalty to?which country? Add george well to the loyal patrons of the jewish apartheid entity.

To every one there is a price.

Posted by: asizk | October 18, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Ahh, Diehl. Consistent. Here is the question: what did Obama sabotage? 15 years of progress? Holy smokes, man. Get a grip. Partisans are silly. All partisans. I bet Obama sabotaged that great solution to Iran's nuclear ambitions too. Snatched all that victory right out from under the GOP administration there, too.

Holy smokes.

Posted by: baldinho | October 18, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Diehl has obviously been drinking buckets of AIPAC Kool-Aid. As an American Jew, no one stands in front of me (or my brethren) in protecting Israeli sovereignty. But Netanyahu has formed a compact with wingnuts who will stop at nothing to defeat the prospect of an honorable Two State solution. Shame on you!

Posted by: wiltonsjs | October 18, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse


Would the Zionists dare to interfere with an American “Freedom Flotilla“?

Are you serious?

Consider this….

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8237736398816742305&ei=Y2_mSbWuI5GsrQKpssnhBg&q=the+loss+of+liberty#

That should answer the question.


Posted by: JackDixon | October 18, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Middle East peace is Israel. Always has been and always will be. We need to cut off any US aid to Israel.

Posted by: Maddogg | October 18, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I think the problem is violent islamic behavior and the perverse logic they use to justify it.... just look above.

One of our brilliant posters suggests:

"better a thousand people die than one apartment built"

That's the kind of nonsense that islam produces.

Just a cult of violence and intolerance.

Posted by: docwhocuts | October 18, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Amen, Johnny Boston. We have a boob for a president who is a Muslim. He needs to keep his mouth shut. He just keeps putting both feet in it.

Posted by: annnort | October 18, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

The raw anti-Semitism of progressive commenters is disturbing. Being an optomist, I choose to believe that this is just hollow rhetoric and they just get caught up in the moment. What did you think was going to happen? Obama made a big deal out of a routine legal issue regarding the settlement, placing Abbas in an impossible position -- no way he could take a softer line than Obama. He also put Netanyahu in a bind -- he could not back down without losing the government, and the support of the people (once upon a time, liberals thought support of the people was important; no more, alas).

Just as disturbing is the revisionist history. Israel is in the West Bank and Gaza because of a 1967 invasion from a combined Arab military force, and not through "colonialism." The basic problem remains -- few Arab states and even fewer Arab leaders acknowledge Israel's right to exist. Until that changes, this is all just a kabuki dance.

At first, I thought the thesis that Obama was an "anti-colonialist" was a crock, but it's nonsense like his position toward Israel which keeps tugging at the theory. Also, there is not a daylight between his rhetoric on Israel, and Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright's rhetoric. I still choose to believe Obama is simply in over his head, and still has no idea what he is doing, or the consequences of his words. God help us, Biden was right: Gird your loins.

Posted by: haunches | October 18, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

The problem of settlements shows how ineffective any president is on implementing U.S. Middle East policy.

The official U.S. policy is a return to pre-1967 borders.

That charade has been going on for decades.

To understand why, consider this…

War Crimes Committed against U.S. Military Personnel cannot even get a hearing in Washington

http://www.gtr5.com/evidence/warcrimes.pdf

Has Obama even tried to get justice for these war crimes against U.S. military personnel?

If Obama can’t get justice for U.S. military personnel, how can he do it for anyone else?

Posted by: JackDixon | October 18, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict:

THREE TRILLION DOLLARS…

Count it: $3,000,000,000,000.00

Check it out here...

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/stauffer.html

It's all borrowed money you'll be paying for in your taxes for the rest of your life.

But be thankful that we have the best Congress money can buy.

Posted by: JackDixon | October 18, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Mr.Jackson Diehl has forgot the history of North America, South America, Australia and Arctic i.e. Half of this world including Europe where one fourth of World population live with Anglo Saxons and European majority withh 22000 Nuclear bombs and all WMDs and on the other hand three fourth world population live in poor Asia and Africa without any major WMD except illegal European and American Immigrants in Palestine with 200 Nuclear bombs and other WMD. Thus this policy of further settlement means nothing except few reserve area like Gaza with Palestian Christians and Muslims and rest is just the foot step of North America, South America and Australia. So don't try to fool the civilized people of this World. It is 94 years ago in 1916 this game started after first invasion of Iraq in 1914 or even erlier in Spain in 1492. So stop your game of war, killing and destruction and be afrain of God that he will catch you after your death as he is doing to your warmonger ancestors in the grave and in world of all souls since first creation. Rest is in.

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Khondakar-Mowla/e/B002U7Z600

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Best regards and thanks,


Posted by: Caliph | October 18, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I am not sure that this is a correct way of presenting the problem. The problem is not so much the settlements as the firm and oft-repeated US and Western commitment to Israel’s security. It is this guarantee which ensures that Israel does not have to be responsible or reasonable in its negotiations with Palestinians or with anyone else in the Middle East. But the US president and the secretary of state have repeated US guarantee to Israel’s security more than once during their tenure, as did their predecessors over more than 60 years past. Israel continues in occupation of territory of its neighbours which it occupied during wars. Any Middle East settlement will have to ensure that Israel returns to its borders of 1948. Besides, Jerusalem is sacred to Jews, Muslims, and Christians alike. The best solution would be to make Jerusalem an international city not part of any other Middle Eastern country. But as long as US and Western guarantees to Israel’s security remain, there is no possibility of meaningful negotiations.
Recognition of Israel as a Jewish state runs against the inherent content of modernity. We cannot start reversing history and begin in this day and age to establish States on the basis of religion or race. Israel should be the homeland of all who have lived in its territory for generations, both Jews and Arabs, and both should be equal citizens of the State of Israel. Perhaps I may be a visionary but it seems to me that in theory at any rate it should be possible for Israeli Arabs to hold high offices in Israel. This is the normal progress of humankind: it should not be reversed.
V. C. Bhutani, Delhi, India, vineycb1@vsnl.com, Oct 19 2010, 0646 IST

Posted by: vineycb1 | October 18, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Islam is only a religion of peace if you are a moslem. If you aren't, then Islam is, at best a justificaiton for your enslavement and at worst, a death sentence. If the Eiffel tower goes, the Qaaba shoud be next.

Posted by: PanhandleWilly | October 18, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

If the Arabs laid down their weapons tomorrow there would be no more war over Israel in middle East. If the Israelis laid down their weapons tomorrow, there would be no more Israel. This is a simple fact.

Posted by: PanhandleWilly | October 18, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

I am not sure that this is a correct way of presenting the problem. The problem is not so much the settlements as the firm and oft-repeated US and Western commitment to Israel’s security. It is this guarantee which ensures that Israel does not have to be responsible or reasonable in its negotiations with Palestinians or with anyone else in the Middle East. But the US president and the secretary of state have repeated US guarantee to Israel’s security more than once during their tenure, as did their predecessors over more than 60 years past. Israel continues in occupation of territory of its neighbours which it occupied during wars. Any Middle East settlement will have to ensure that Israel returns to its borders of 1948. Besides, Jerusalem is sacred to Jews, Muslims, and Christians alike. The best solution would be to make Jerusalem an international city not part of any other Middle Eastern country. But as long as US and Western guarantees to Israel’s security remain, there is no possibility of meaningful negotiations.
Recognition of Israel as a Jewish state runs against the inherent content of modernity. We cannot start reversing history and begin in this day and age to establish States on the basis of religion or race. Israel should be the homeland of all who have lived in its territory for generations, both Jews and Arabs, and both should be equal citizens of the State of Israel. Perhaps I may be a visionary but it seems to me that in theory at any rate it should be possible for Israeli Arabs to hold high offices in Israel. This is the normal progress of humankind: it should not be reversed.
V. C. Bhutani, Delhi, India, vineycb1@vsnl.com, Oct 19 2010, 0712 IST

Posted by: vineycb1 | October 18, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

There is no such thing as Palestine. There are no such people as Palestinians. It is a fiction. They're Arabs. They should just migrate to some Arab lands and get over themselves.

Posted by: PanhandleWilly | October 18, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

US governement has to ask all Israel-firsters to make a genuine and public oath of allegeance to the US Constitution and US People. Israel is asking the same from those who want to live in Israel as citizens or become citizens of that self-proclaimed Jewish State (Can USA be proclaimed Evangelical State?.
US citizens who are faithfull to the Spirit of the Constitution and the Vision of the Founding Fathers will sooner or later ask for explanations from these Israel-firsters who always overlook US interests and fight and spin over the unquestionable defense of Israel...
These Israel-firsters are so vocal that they lost heir hearing not noticiing that people are silent around them and lookung at them more and more angrily...

Posted by: eddy3 | October 18, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

International what? International law? Signed into law by what president? Passed by what legislature that was elected by citizens worldwide going to the ballot box and voting?
I don't remember voting in any election to put in place a democratically elected body which would pass such laws, enforce them, and maintain a check and balance.

Posted by: SCOTSGUARDS | October 18, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a closet muslim , he supports the idea of a Palestinian state with east jerusalem as capital , can you imagine , he wants to give away OUR Jerusalem to the Arabs

And Abbas's answer is stupid and treacherous , instead of saying , he supports settlement freeze , he says it's an idea pushed on him by Obama : throwing Obama under the bus , a typical Arab attitude , one Obama has been using very often , proving again , that he's a muslim

Christian democratic countries should unite in a league to eliminate islam from their lands

Posted by: michel1835 | October 18, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Just another data point in support of Obama being an idiot.

Posted by: JCM-51 | October 18, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

eddy3 wrote:

"US governement has to ask all Israel-firsters to make a genuine and public oath of allegeance to the US Constitution and US People"

Hey, leave Charles Krauthammer out of this. He may have been raised in Canada and be a citzen of Israel, but he really was born in this country, believe it or not.

Posted by: 54465446 | October 18, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

vineycb wrote:

"Any Middle East settlement will have to ensure that Israel returns to its borders of 1948. Besides, Jerusalem is sacred to Jews, Muslims, and Christians alike. The best solution would be to make Jerusalem an international city not part of any other Middle Eastern country. But as long as US and Western guarantees to Israel’s security remain, there is no possibility of meaningful negotiations.
Recognition of Israel as a Jewish state runs against the inherent content of modernity. We cannot start reversing history and begin in this day and age to establish States on the basis of religion or race."

Ttwo problems with your post, which was prsented in a very civilized way,

1) there is no chance whatsoever of any return to 1948 borders, and no serious person would propose it.

2) Israel is surrounded by states established on the basis of religion and race. In the Mideast, there is no such thing as "modernity" and very little that is secular too.

Posted by: 54465446 | October 18, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

If the Palestinians are ever serious about having their own state, they need to grow up and produce a set of leaders with the backbones to make peace with Israel and enforce it within their own communities. Until now, they've shown themselves to be incapable of managing a single government over their lands, incapable of complying with agreements they've signed, and incapable of controlling violence in their territories. How can they be entrusted to run a state when they clearly don't have any capable leaders?

Posted by: Illini | October 18, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

The kind of arguments made by Diehl are disturbing not because they deviate from the norm of foreign policy commentary but because they exemplify it.

Deilh's argument is ridiculous. Firstly the statement that the continuing settlements would not affect the outcome of negotiations is just a flat out lie.

These settlements are not small and localized. The legal settlements directly support and encourage illegal settlements. Every new settler increases cost that both parties will have to pay for a final settlement.

But the core of the dishonestly of this post is that virtually no one believes that agreement will be reached in a year and even Israel's foreign minister, Lieberman rebuked his Prime minister for optimism on the peace process and projected a process taking decades. In a few years there will be nothing left of Palestine.

There truly is a whiff of Antisemitism in the belief that this kind of intellectual dishonesty comes from an "Israeli" lobby. The truth is this kind of blatantly dishonest argument is the norm for neo-conservative writers.

Deilh is no list dishonest when he is writing about South America. I wish that some of this anti-Israel mood could be turned into a "Don't lie to me about basic well known facts about foreign countries" movement.

I have long since lost faith in the power of truth against evil. But good God man, if you are going to try win your argument with lies, at least show me the common courtesy of coming ups with some better ones.

Posted by: RobertLeeHotchkisss | October 19, 2010 1:28 AM | Report abuse

On:

"I have long since lost faith in the power of truth against evil. But good God man, if you are going to try win your argument with lies, at least show me the common courtesy of coming ups with some better ones."

A man like me surely enter hell until God forgives me for my every moment sin as God did not create hell to keep it empty. Majority people will go to hell and very few to Heaven. World is a testing place. People defied prophet Moses (peace be upon him) during his life time and it is known to all what people did to Prophet Jesus (Peace be upon him) during his short life time though later those same Romans claimed falsely that they are his followers.Rest is in.

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Best regards and thanks,

Posted by: Caliph | October 19, 2010 7:33 AM | Report abuse

You repeat here a talking point that contains its own rebuttal. The Israelis for two decades abused the "peace process" to gain time while taking over the West Bank. Finally even the spineless lacky Abbas could no longer ignore what was happening. So now you complain that they got away with it this long, why can't they get away with it forever?

Posted by: MarkThomason | October 19, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Last Sunday on 60 minutes I saw the program City of David. Hosted by Leslie Sthal( spelling) and I was not amused by the interviewed statements concerning the tunnel being excavated in Israel that supposedly legitimizes Israeli's claim to Jerusalem. The problem with the interviewed is this: Both were fanatics, and both claimed that Jerusalem belonged to the Jews because David conquered THE PEOPLE who lived in this area BEFORE THEM because some God sanctioned Davids conquest. Apparently God had no concern for the conquered people whom live live there before the Jews whom were originally Semite people from the mountains? This is the same old crap I've been hearing since I was a kid. Apparently if a "God" gives permission to one man to take the land of milk and honey then it is all right to kill the people who occupied said area for perhaps a thousand years or perhaps more before the Jews laid claim to this area. And the Mayor of Jerusalem, well all he could think about is making a "buck" by removing the Arabs out of his potential money making scheme by using an endless source of cash to buy poor people out of their homes. Jews and money - it's the same old crap throughout history. The problem with all this religious stuff is this: It always seems to be some "God" holding a private meeting with some charismatic individual religious salesman (always a man) to get what he, via a "God", wants and that is Power, Money and of course more sex than others - in short an elitist class of people who want to rule in the name of Religion!
President Obama's good intent never had a chance because these people believe they are the chosen. In antiquity the Jews were called "Stiff Necks." Today the label still fits. Jerusalem belongs to no one.

Posted by: Rlupodimare | October 19, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Israeli government spokesman, Jackson Diehl, for your views.

Posted by: ThoughtfulGuy | October 19, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

So much commentary for such a simple solution. ALL of Palestine is stolen, and ALL of it must be returned. Until this happens there will not be peace. All present isrelis can move to Europe or USA, and Georg Soros can fund it

Posted by: amin-n | October 21, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Good article, Mr. Diehl, only Obama initially made settlements an issue during his June 4, 2009 outreach speech to the Muslim world from Cairo. In that speech, he unilaterally demanded a cessation of all settlement activity that had never been an issue before.

Posted by: syosmama | October 24, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Jackson Diehl hit the mark.

President Obama's obsession with settlements encouraged the Arab world to take an even harder line on negotiations.

In any event, the Palestinian Authority doesn't want the talks. It waited until the last month of the 10 month freeze to begin talks, and had to be dragged int them. Obama's focus on settlements provided a convenient out.

Posted by: dorn | October 24, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

While Israel is pressured to make one-sided concessions, the Palestinians and Arab world are given a free ride.

Israeli PM Netanyahu repeatedly asked for a reciprocal gesture during the freeze. He asked that the PA recognize Israel as a Jewish homeland (as stressed in the 1948 UN resolutions).

Mahmoud Abbas repeatedly rejected this, saying he will never recognize Israel as a Jewish state/ homeland. Palestinian PM Salam Fayyad walked out of a UN meeting with Israeli minister Dany Ayalon three weeks ago, rather than allow wording that hinted at such recognition.

If the Palestinians and Arab world reject basic symbolic gestures, how will they ever make concrete compromises?

Posted by: dorn | October 24, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

The core issue remains Arab refusal to accept a permanent Jewish state, no matter how small. That hasn't changed from the failed 1948 Arab invasion of Israel through to the rockets launched after Israel's 2005 Gaza withdrawal.

Instead of pressuring Israel, the Palestinians should be required to make reciprocal compromises. A primary one should be recognition of the Jewish refugees from Arab lands, whose descendants form about half of Israel's populace. This will involve acceptance that descendants of the similar number of Palestinian refugees should be resettled in the West Bank, and not, as Mahmoud Abbas demands, in pre-1967 Israel.

While Israel uplifted all the JEWISH REFUGEES FROM ARAB LANDS, the Arab world still keeps descendants of a similar number of Arab refugees stateless. This is especially hypocritical as the Arab world started the wars that led to BOTH refugee issues.

Posted by: dorn | October 24, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse


Most media have covered only one issue in the recent Arab-Israeli peace talks: settlements. Associated Press, which feeds most American newspapers, and National Public Radio, have been remarkably consistent in this. It as if Israeli PM Netanyahu's calls for Palestinian reciprocity simply don't exist. One has turn to the Jerusalem Post to find them.

Palestinian President Abbas repeatedly rejected Netanyahu's requests to recognize Israel as a Jewish homeland in the lead up to talks. Prime Minister Salam Fayyad walked out of a UN meeting with Israel's Dany Ayalon a fortnight ago, rather than accept hints at such recognition. If the Palestinians reject basic symbolic gestures, how will they compromise on concrete issues?

The obsessive focus on "settlements" has been counterproductive. It has encouraged many in the Arab world, that the peace process can be used to dismantle Israel politically, after the failure of all the wars. The Palestinian Authority has made it clear that if the settlement freeze is extended, they will stop negotiating as soon as the extension ends. Many Israelis are understandably concerned that the talks were set up to fail, with Israel taking the blame. After that, the Palestinian Authority can pursue statehood through the UN, while the Arab world continues the conflict with Israel.

There are precious few signs of Arab acceptance of a permanent Israel. A fortnight ago, the "moderate" PA confirmed the death sentence for anyone selling land to Jews. It continues to name town squares and youth camps after perpetrators of the worst terror attacks. Its television station continues to broadcast children's programs that call Israeli cities "occupied". Incitement in Egypt, Jordan, let alone Gaza and Syria is just as bad.

Instead of pressuring Israel for one-sided concessions, the Palestinians should be required to make concrete compromises. A primary one should be the recognition of the rights of Jewish refugees from Arab lands, and the consequent acceptance that descendants of Palestinian refugees should be resettled in the West Bank, and not, as Mahmoud Abbas demands, in pre-1967 Israel.

Posted by: dorn | October 24, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Apart from the issue of settlements, the Washington Posthas ignored:
(1) The PA's death sentence for anyone selling land to Jews.

(2) The PA's naming of town squares, youth camps, computer centers after Dalal Mugrabi, Amin Al-Hindi (perpetrators of the worst terror attacks).

(3) The PA's refusal to compromise on any issue: refugees, borders, Jerusalem.

(4) The incitement in PA media: children's programs on TV continue to call for violence, to glorify suicide bombers, to call cities in pre-1967 Israel occupied.

(5) Israel has received nothing for its settlement freeze, only more pressure.

Posted by: dorn | October 24, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Israel's Gaza withdrawal led to over 10 000 rocket attacks. Israelis rightly fear that the same would happen from the West Bank - but worse, as most Israelis live in the country's center.

Moreover, Israel has been repeatedly attacked by far larger neighbors in the past 62 years.

Until the Arab world stops indoctrinating for endless conflict, Israeli concessions will simply bring more attacks and more extremism from Arab militants.

Posted by: dorn | October 24, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

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