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Nobel Peace Prize reaction: China's angry, the U.S. is subdued

Within hours of the announcement of a Nobel Peace Prize for Chinese dissident Liu Xiaobo, the Chinese government reacted as if reading from a script. As expected – and as was appropriate, given that Liu is an advocate of the free press – it erased news of the prize from Chinese Web sites, removed Liu’s name from Twitter services, and jammed a CNN broadcast from Oslo. It also issued a fairly standard string of denunciations. A spokesman for the Chinese foreign ministry described Liu as a “convicted criminal sentenced to jail by Chinese justice authorities for violation of Chinese law.” By giving him the prize, the committee had “totally gone against the purpose of the award” and “committed blasphemy against the peace prize.”

He didn’t finish there. “Recently, China and Norway have had good relations,” he declared ominously. No longer.

To which there is only one possible reaction: Who cares about Chinese-Norwegian relations? Certainly not the Norwegians, whose enviably high living standards derive from their small numbers and their offshore gas supplies, not from their trade with China. It’s true that the Norwegian government is currently negotiating a free trade agreement with China, but it isn’t of earth-shattering significance: All told, Norway’s trade with China (2 percent of exports, 7 percent of imports) is a small fraction of its trade with the European Union, and the balance is entirely in China’s favor.

And that, of course, is precisely the point. When he created this prize, Alfred Nobel, the Swedish dynamite millionaire, decreed that the selection committee should consist solely of five Norwegians. His reasoning: Norway is outside the European mainstream, and Norwegians are therefore less likely to be corrupt. As I pointed out last year - when the Nobel peace prize inexplicably went to the then-new President Barack Obama - Norwegians, being outside the European mainstream, are also more likely to be eccentric. In this case, their eccentricity is demonstrated by the fact that they genuinely could not care less about the reaction of the Chinese government.

In the modern world, there aren’t that many nations in a position to be so cavalier. The British and the French did cautiously applaud the prize. Both of their foreign ministry spokesmen declared right away that they had called for Liu’s release in the past. But the European Union was more careful: Its commission president, Jose Manuel Barroso, made a general statement in support of “all those around the world who, sometimes with great personal sacrifice, are struggling for freedom and human rights.”

The U.S. government, meanwhile, was worryingly silent: The State Department did not issue an immediate statement of congratulation following the announcement, even though it managed one marking the 40th anniversary of the independence of Fiji and despite the fact that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called for Liu’s release at a democracy conference last summer.

More to the point, the entire morning went by before last year’s winner congratulated his successor. As of noon, east coast time, not a word had been said: Presumably, everybody was sweating over the wording of a statement. Finally one appeared. It was straightforward enough: The president described Liu as “an eloquent and courageous spokesmen for the advance of universal values,” called on the Chinese government to release Liu “as soon as possible,” and made a nod to the “dramatic progress in economic reform in China” just in case there were any hurt feelings.

He declined to elaborate a few minutes later when he met with media in the Rose Garden to say an official farewell to Jim Jones. But then, we are not Norway.

By Anne Applebaum  | October 8, 2010; 1:21 PM ET
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Applebaum,

did you notice that the President made a full howl message of delight over the
awarding of the prize?

NOthing to write about?
Nothing else to put down this country about today?
No corrupt or greedy zionist to defend?

You're such a wreck, dreck of a columnist.
But right in there, complete lack of quaity or sense, for the Washington Post.

Posted by: whistling | October 8, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Well said, Ms. Applebaum. Money trumps rights and freedoms, in China as in the USA, two societies supposedly at extreme side of each other.

One day the human race will learn to live without loans and then the banksters will disappear or assume new 'professions'.

In the meanwhile, we can't do or say anything that may offend our lenders. They tells us what to produce, when, who works, who doesn't...

This planet needs a shake up.

Posted by: coqui44 | October 8, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse


Applebaum doesn't like the choices of the Nobel Committee!

This unread, pointless nobody,

(pal of the idiot WaPo publisher who inherited the job and has made a complete fool of herself)

undoubtedly had Jewishcandidate...perhaps the delightful Netanyahu.

AND she deigns to complain about America's response, which obviously she hasn't read.

Applebaum is SO Washington Post.


Posted by: whistling | October 8, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

My only question. Can we trade their legitimate prize winner for our joke of a winner?

Posted by: illogicbuster | October 8, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

In no way did President Obama deserve the Nobel Peace Prize, a novice politician from Chicago. The Nobel Peace Prize is not awarded by a Swedish organization but by the Norwegian Nobel Committee.

Here are the idiots that make the selection:

Thorbjørn Jagland

b. 1950.
Chair of the Nobel Committee.
Secretary-general Council of Europe.
President of the Storting. 2005-2009. Prime Minister 1996-1997. Foreign Minister 2000-2001. Member of the Storting 1993-2009.
Member of the Committee since 2009, appointed for the period 2009-2014.


Kaci Kullmann Five

b. 1951
Deputy chair of the Nobel Committee.
Self employed Advisor Public Affairs. Chairman of the Young Conservatives, 1977-79. Member of the Storting, 1981-97. Cabinet Minister for Trade, Shipping and European Affairs, 1989-90. Chairman of the Conservative Party, 1991-94.
Member of the Committee since 2003, reappointed for the period 2009-2014.


Sissel Marie Rønbeck

b. 1950
Chairman Social Democratic Youth (AUF) 1975-1977. Member of the Storting 1977-1993. Cabinet Minister 1979-81, 1986-89 and 1996-97.
Member of the Committee since 1994, reappointed for the period 2006-2011.


Inger-Marie Ytterhorn

b. 1941
Senior political adviser to the Progress Party's parliamentary group. Member of the Storting, 1989-93. Member of the Election Law Ad hoc committee 1998-2001.
Member of the Committee since 2000, reappointed for the period 2006-2011.


Ågot Valle

b. 1945

Member of the Storting 1997-2009. President of the Odelsting 2001-2005.
Member of the Committee since 2009, appointed for the period 2009-2014.

Posted by: alance | October 8, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Of course the White House and State Department were slow to respond. It's a Friday. These are government workers. Sheesh.

Besides, given the sensitivity of the situation, that statement probably had to go through 20 drafts and be read by at least as many people before being released.

Ultimately, the delay boils down to the fact that the federal government is now China's lapdog. We are so indebted to China that we are afraid to do anything so significant as to upset our economic dependence on them. This Nobel Prize is merely a distraction to the more important issues (in the mind of the White House) of America's massive debt owed to China and of the revaluation of Chinese currency with the dollar. Upset China over something silly like human rights, and we ruin any chance of solving the economic problems.

For the White House, money trumps human rights. Obvious, isn't it?

Posted by: blert | October 8, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Well I suppose what we can learn for this is the best way for Obama to legitimize his Nobel Peace prize would be for him to spend time in a Chinese jail. Might as well send over Biden, Pelosi, and Reid too..they could use some legitimizing.

Posted by: Wiggan | October 8, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh My God! A whole morning! I'm breathlessly writhing with indignation as I write this. Now who is this guy who won the prize?

Posted by: mgiangr1 | October 8, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

For the record, the State Department had 40 years to anticipate the 40th Anniversary of the Independence of Fiji. If some flunky there wrote the statement 5-10 words a year, they probably would have finished it with years to spare. I don't think anyone knew who the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize was until this morning.

Posted by: mgiangr1 | October 8, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

The thugs who rule China are a bunch of goons, pure and simple. Everybody knows it.

Kudos to Norway for rubbing their nose in it.

Posted by: trenda | October 8, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Not many things have worked out with the PRC. We keep hoping they will become a democracy...we keep hoping they play nice, at home and abroad. But it hasn't worked out that way--they are still a totalitarian regime and they still deny their markets to outsiders. And we keep on trying to make them feel cheery--1930's much?

Posted by: aries_jdd | October 8, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

China was negotiating another unfair trade agreement? Do tell.

F China. We need to seriously start thinking of having the western world go back to putting China in the pariah box.

Posted by: theobserver4 | October 8, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Don't think you are presenting an honest picture of the administration's response. It's not silence.

But Obama praised the award, saying the Nobel committee "has chosen someone who has been an eloquent and courageous spokesman for the advance of universal values through peaceful and non-violent means, including his support for democracy, human rights and the rule of law."

In a statement released by the White House, Obama said that "America will always be a voice for those aspirations that are universal to all human beings." Although China has made "dramatic progress in economic reform and improving the lives of its people" over the past 30 years, "this award reminds us that political reform has not kept pace, and that the basic human rights of every man, woman and child must be respected," he said. "We call on the Chinese government to release Mr. Liu as soon as possible."

Posted by: guyachs | October 8, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Economic solutions and imperatives, or Executive Memorandum to the Obama administration. Sino-US relations are one, but not quite in balance, yet. This require time. Our Nation was not founded overnight, and without major sacrifices and planning.

Proposed Sino-USA investment strategies to forge or move our alliance along:

1. Waste Management Systems: for recycling, landfill management, and energy.
2. Stemlit Organic growers to avoid pollution of our waterways
3. Werhauser tree growing for tree harvesting to avoid desertification and global warming.
4. Solar and wind turbines GE: for Sustainable energies
5. Aqua, i.e. Bluefin Tuna culture to avoid over harvesting and extinction of fish
6. Lastly, and most signicantly, we need China to bankroll a public NASA/private sector, SSBC Solar energy program. The Green rev will occur, hold most promise in space, and is not only earth-bound.
China has the capital, we still maintain the consultants.

Posted by: solid3 | October 8, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Economic solutions and imperatives, or Executive Memorandum to the Obama administration. Sino-US relations are one, but not quite in balance, yet. This require time. Our Nation was not founded overnight, and without major sacrifices and planning.

Proposed Sino-USA investment strategies to forge or move our alliance along:

1. Waste Management Systems: for recycling, landfill management, and energy.
2. Stemlit Organic growers to avoid pollution of our waterways
3. Werhauser tree growing for tree harvesting to avoid desertification and global warming.
4. Solar and wind turbines GE: for Sustainable energies
5. Aqua, i.e. Bluefin Tuna culture to avoid over harvesting and extinction of fish
6. Lastly, and most signicantly, we need China to bankroll a public NASA/private sector, SSBC Solar energy program. The Green rev will occur, hold most promise in space, and is not only earth-bound.
China has the capital, we still maintain the consultants.

Posted by: solid3 | October 8, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Economic solutions and imperatives, or Executive Memorandum to the Obama administration. Sino-US relations are one, but not quite in balance, yet. This require time. Our Nation was not founded overnight, and without major sacrifices and planning.

Proposed Sino-USA investment strategies to forge or move our alliance along:

1. Waste Management Systems: for recycling, landfill management, and energy.
2. Stemlit Organic growers to avoid pollution of our waterways
3. Werhauser tree growing for tree harvesting to avoid desertification and global warming.
4. Solar and wind turbines GE: for Sustainable energies
5. Aqua, i.e. Bluefin Tuna culture to avoid over harvesting and extinction of fish
6. Lastly, and most signicantly, we need China to bankroll a public NASA/private sector, SSBC Solar energy program. The Green rev will occur, hold most promise in space, and is not only earth-bound.
China has the capital, we still maintain the consultants.

Posted by: solid3 | October 8, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Another jab at the Chinese government. What is the definition of bully? Norway you say? BS. This is the same political organization that gave Obama a 'hope' prize.

Posted by: Nobrun | October 8, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Nobel prize is no more prestegious...they gave it to OBAMA and now a chinese who did nothing for the world peace.I never expected that it is so cheap.Next time they will give the Nobel prize to a dog becasue it doesn't bark and more peaceful than any human on the earth...lol

Posted by: hellbender1 | October 8, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Liu Xiaobo is lucky to be Chinese, and the U.S. through its influence on who gets the Nobel and who doesn't, want to stick it to China through Norway. Would Liu Xiaobo have gotten a Nobel Peace Prize if he were an Egyptian dissident? How many Egyptian dissidents languish in prison in Egypt - under worse prison conditions, and under a police famous for torturing prisoners. Well, it is hush-hush for dissidents under our puppet regimes, and Nobels for dissidents under our foes! Has the Egyptian cleric Abu Omar, who was kidnapped in Italy by the CIA, and turned over to Egypt who tortured him, gotten a Nobel? What about the thousands of dissidents in Saudi jails? Aren't they humans? The fact is that our Norwegian friends have transformed the Nobel Prize process into "a Nobel Award Mill" to help us and mud-sling our foes!

The award of the Peace prize to Liu Xiaobo, therefore, is a nice way to undermine China, the greatest threat to the U.S. in Asia. Any dissident who helps portray countries antagonizing the U.S. as brutal is eligible, and many have gotten Nobel Peace prizes. Did any Latin American
dissident of the U.S. dictators in Latin America ever receive a Nobel Peace Prize? No, they were all exterminated by CIA trained and funded “Death Squads." Did Mao Tse-Tung, Mohandas Ghandi, and other men who liberated their people, and who are considered by historians "Men of Universal Destiny," receive a Nobel? Of course not. Did Henry Kissinger receive a Nobel for the U.S. war and defeat in Vietnam? Sure he did. And to make Kissinger's award look real, the Nobel Committee offered the North Vietnamese foreign minister Le Duc Tho a Nobel too! He refused the offer. "There was never a peace deal with the U.S. We won the war," he said. Did the Soviet
Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko get a Nobel peace for the Soviet war and defeat in Afghanistan? Of course not. The Nobels are for the U.S.
politicians, and the enemies or dissidents of the U.S. enemies.

Do the Norwegians really care about dissidents languishing in prisons?
How many thousands anti-American Afghans are languishing in prisons in Afghanistan since 2001 without trial? The U.S. doesn't say, but a figure of 50.000 is talked about.. Would anyone of them get a Nobel? No. Barack Obama took the Nobel Peace Prize for keeping them in prison far worse than the Chinese prisons without trial. Is the life of Liu Xiaobo, who at least had a trial, worth a Nobel Peace Prize, while the lives of thousands of U.S. prisoners -and also the thousands of Palestinian prisoners kept for life without trial by Israel, worth anything? No, it is not! And that is the shame of the Nobel Peace Prize. And I feel those with high ethical standards - like Le Duc Tho- should refuse to accept it. Nikos Retsos, retired professor

Posted by: Nikos_Retsos | October 8, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama's Nobel Prize was not entirely inexplicable. Many Europeans and Americans felt that a tide of U.S. right-wing policies (preemptive war, economic and environmental non-regulation, etc.) posed a clear and present danger to the world. Obama may not have fully reversed that tide, but he brought it to a temporary stop without resorting to violence. Who else in history, besides Gandhi perhaps, has ever achieved so much?

Posted by: JPMinNC | October 8, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

"To which there is only one possible reaction: Who cares about Chinese-Norwegian relations? Certainly not the Norwegians... currently negotiating a free trade agreement with China, but it isn’t of earth-shattering significance"
_____________________________*

Here's one other possible reaction: Stop flopping your gums like an idiot about stuff about which you have no clue.

Let the Norwegians decide what's "of earth-shattering significance".

Report the news, then, shut the hell up... you sophomoric tabloid baby!

Posted by: peaceandprotest | October 8, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Why did Barack Obama praise the Chinese dissident who won the Nobel Peace Prize?

Because he read this posting on the Washington Post website by Applebaum.

He can't keep up with all the books written by Bob Woodward and all of the blog Posts written by Applebaum to look for all the grand gestures he should be making.

Perhaps he should donate his presidential salary to The Washington Post. It would only be fair. Either current or past Posties like Woodward or Applebaum are who Obama listens to for political advice. Keep it up, Post! I really think you should get Obama to put you on the payroll at the White House now that that momser, Rahm Emanuel, is leaving soon. Yes. There will be plenty of money there after you hear the giant sucking sound when Rahm leaves. A giant sucking sound.

http://www.truth-out.org/foreclosuregate63953


Posted by: eyemakeupneeded1 | October 8, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Why did Barack Obama praise the Chinese dissident who won the Nobel Peace Prize?

Because he read this posting on the Washington Post website by Applebaum.

He can't keep up with all the books written by Bob Woodward and all of the blog Posts written by Applebaum to look for all the grand gestures he should be making.

Perhaps he should donate his presidential salary to The Washington Post. It would only be fair. Either current or past Posties like Woodward or Applebaum are who Obama listens to for political advice. Keep it up, Post! I really think you should get Obama to put you on the payroll at the White House now that that momser, Rahm Emanuel, is leaving soon. Yes. There will be plenty of money there after you hear the giant sucking sound when Rahm leaves. A giant sucking sound.

http://www.truth-out.org/foreclosuregate63953


Posted by: eyemakeupneeded1 | October 8, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

not on the same article you moron. I am going to go to the Post ombudsman who us doing this as well as whomever is the executive editor of the moment untul he is fired as they all are by the Graham family member who is not currently on the Vineyard.

Posted by: eyemakeupneeded1 | October 8, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

next year LTTE leader velupillai Prabakaran we guess

Posted by: solomonmendis | October 8, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

next year will be Tamill TIger LTTE leader Velupillai Prabakaran

Posted by: solomonmendis | October 8, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

next year peace price goes to Tamil terrorist (LTTE) Velupillai Prabakaran

Posted by: solomonmendis | October 8, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

next year peace price goes to Tamil terrorist (LTTE) Velupillai Prabakaran

Posted by: solomonmendis | October 8, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

next year peace price goes to Tamil terrorist (LTTE) Velupillai Prabakaran

Posted by: solomonmendis | October 8, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

next year peace price goes to Tamil terrorist (LTTE) Velupillai Prabakaran

Posted by: solomonmendis | October 8, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

I understand why Appelbaum felt she had to mention the embarrassment of Obama's Nobel award, and it was embarrassing. Admittedly, the prize has been awarded to many who did not meet Nobel criteria; however, Obama's case was unique in that he had done absolutely nothing at that point in his life and career to merit consideration for the prize.

That said, the case of Obama and Liu is appalling. It recalls the former's refusal to meet with the Dalai Lama. China's bullying of Norway reminds us of its bullying of our President, when he demanded monetary reform of China.

Hope and change, the One rhetoric comprised an idiotic discourse into which the more intelligent among those of us who voted for Obama never bought, not for an instant.

However, I did not expect to see this American President communicate a message of despair and moral decline.

Yes, we are in debt to China. But if sleeping with the devil requires selling the national soul, I say, cancel the debt, and move on, America. Move on.

Congratulations, Mr. Liu. My hope is that this great nation will fight for your release and the release of the people of your great nation.

Posted by: FarnazMansouri2 | October 8, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Nobel prize is totally corrupted. What does Obama have anything to do with peace when he is leading a nation to fight two wars outside his country's border? Peace prize to a chinese dissident? Did he do anything to improve world peace? Did he say no to Bush when he started Iraq war? Of course, he did not -because he does not care. He is interested in gaining political power in China not world peace. Alfred Nobel is rolling his eyes in his grave!

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Posted by: 1561705755 | October 8, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

WHADDAYAEXPECT? China owns us.

Posted by: Closer2theBorderlin | October 8, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

I appreciate the responsibility and restraint shown by China. Anyone who urges anything less than non-violent change in China is a fool.

Eventually, if China shifts to a two-party or multi-party form of government, the split will occur to the right of center, not left. When the CCP declares one-party rule harms China, then there will be diversity. A split to the left is a western force seeking to strategically destablize the country.


Posted by: blasmaic | October 8, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

JUst heard on the news that Liu's wife was at first detained and has now been spirited away somewhere.

She had issued a statement on her husband's award, apparently. Evidently, Liu is enormously popular in China, and the gang government is alarmed.

It is possible that Liu's wife is being taken to see him, in an effort to do something not horrible while keeping her away from the media.

YOUR MOVE, Pres. Obama.

Posted by: FarnazMansouri2 | October 8, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Words like blasphemy and criminal by China. What next a fatwa against the Nobel committee.Ban products from Norway. In what way is the Chinese government different from the Taliban if it is so reactionary After Japan it will now be Norway. Which is the next country it wants to ban!

Posted by: ramakrishnahosur | October 8, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps we should encourage millions of Chinese idealists to throw themselves in front of tanks we have no intention of doing battle with.

Or just possibly our jingoism in this case is restrained by human decency - not a quality I'd count on, but one which crops up from time to time.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | October 8, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

I think that political bias shall not be involved in honour.
Different politics and purpose may influence one's judgement.

Posted by: Elevenhuang | October 9, 2010 1:22 AM | Report abuse

To follow Ms. Applebaum's opinion that a China-Norway relation is relatively insignificant, I propose that such a relation should indeed be severed following the Nobel Peace Prize controversy. Let me explain: the severance of the relation will mutually benefit both countries. The Norwegians no longer have to put up with melamine-tainted pet food, sulfur-laced dry walls, or toys covered with lead paint. The Chinese no longer have to import oil from Norway, which will in some small way contribute to the reduction of greenhouse gas emission by the Chinese. Better yet, since a significant portion of Norwegian export to China includes seafood products, a severance of China-Norway relation means that the Chinese no longer have to put up with lutefisk, a Norwegian delicacy of fermented fish processed with lye. Don't be surprised when China retaliates by severing its diplomatic and economic ties with Norway altogether in the near future.

Posted by: kinbakubi | October 9, 2010 3:16 AM | Report abuse

The Nobel peace prize is a joke, there is nothing serious about it. Some who could have been charged of war crimes have been awarded the prize because their policies conformed at one point to Uncle Sam norms! All this noise about China reminds me of a desperate stupid kid who keeps hitting his head against the wall!

Posted by: farid-f | October 9, 2010 3:36 AM | Report abuse

Anne Applebaum -- basic facts in your article are incorrect.

You state that the State Dept had not issued a statement about Liu Xiaobo's win. You then compounded that error by proceeding to deride another country's independence with gratuitous sarcastic remarks....revealing for all just how truly a sophomoric writer you really are.

You should know though Anne that the State Dept did indeed issue a statement about Xiaobo's win, going to so far as to call again for Xiaobo's release from prison, and also issuing this statement before any other State Dept comments you cited. Here is the link:

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2010/10/149235.htm

These are elementary mistakes on your part; and it makes me wonder that maybe you are just not that great of a writer. Perhaps some fact checking might be in order then, hmm?

Posted by: JustTheFactsPlease1 | October 9, 2010 3:55 AM | Report abuse

This award is cruelly taking advantage of a people's wish for a supposedly prestigeous award and yet when it comes, it comes jam packed with ideology that punishes more than a billion people for trying something new. A scientific award that stifles alternate approaches to governance, a subject that is more academic than any mere display of, to date, skewed representation. An ill conceived attempt to destroy the self-confidence of the Chinese people that already fails the test of science of self-consistency. On another note, JUST GO ON NOBEL PRIZE.ORG, their WEBSITE themselves are CENSORED that any mere neutral word of disappointment is banned from their website

Posted by: winbox | October 9, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Obviously some people are watching too much Inception and is trying to get to the Chinese people by patting people on their back for confused values, by reiterating propaganda in hopes that it would eventually destroy the self-confidence of the Chinese people; in other words, to win a war without fire fights, and to take advantage of a government too innocent at this media game. But after the dust settles and results come in from constant evaluation of whether what must be true had to be false, you realize that the Chinese government is still the same government that was born from the people, for the people, against domination by foreign values. We love our government and what it’s done for us in the face of severe western bloc persecution. It deserves 60 consecutive nobel peace prizes more than any number of barack and make-everyone-else-feel-superior “dissidents” out there. We love our country and our government that we’re willing to die for, so Do silence us and put words in our mouths for us

Posted by: winbox | October 9, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

LOL @ nobel prize: last year: obama; this year: 'dissident". In abusing its academic clout to endorse a "voice" of a farce of a "dissident", the Nobel prize has effectively jammed down the throat, dictated, taken advantaged of, and silenced the voice of more than a billion people who supports our government. As a Chinese who's grown up in the united states since 11 for 15 years, the united states media and its education in 15 Years has only exposed a mutilated, self-inconsistent, hit piece "democracy" weaponized for smear campaigns against any country that has not yet capitulated to the western bloc, or to be led by the leader of the "free" world. Forcing the Chinese people to live in a politically motivated Western perception and fantasy of China while ignoring reality has become the name of the game. Our Chinese government has relied Heavily on democracy ever since its founding and Led the Chinese people against an united states backed corrupt party state 60 years ago. One party does not preclude democracy, or so your Obama claims that the united states is in fact one people, and for the time being, lets ignore the indian's request for independance. Us Chinese can talk to our government officials in more ways than a united states citizen can. "Democratizing" now would be to submit to a tailor made problem that was never there. If you were serious about human rights, you would recognize that democracy was born as a means to a fair government, and most agree that you shall never democratize for the sake of democratization, less you want to become and be mentioned in the ranks as the taiwanese "government", where dissent reigns orders of magnitudes above governance; silence the wishes and welfare of the people, we want dissent, we want multiple party. All this would of course be a hard pill to swallow for someone who has been indoctrinated since birth to believe that democracy reigns above all, that there exists an equivalency between democracy and multiple party.

Posted by: winbox | October 9, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

去诺贝尔奖的网站看看,它们让不让别人对它们的提名表示一丝的不满? 自己都不按自己的原则做事,还要把这以被搞得乌烟瘴气的民主强加于人, 目的在哪里? 作为一个科学的奖项,竟然在剥夺十三亿人尝试新事物的机会,这是什么科学。 一党在国民党下的水生火热中怎没见诺贝尔奖赋予共产党人,今天的中国难道真没有民主吗,还是一些跳梁小丑因无才华, 经验与雄略问鼎而就地撒泼. 中国共产党从几十年烈火的考验中为全世界提炼出的那些永恒的真谛难道要背因民主而伪民主取代. 就因为我们党的名称让他们坐立不安我们就被弄贝尔奖无礼推搡,弄贝尔可耻。 中国共产党给我们做人的脊梁,给我们时间做到天下第一的民主,一个不必需选举,不必需多党轮值的民主政府,这有什么错,他们知不知道民主是什么意思,有什么目的, 急功近利的中国人会反对我们, 不愿看到中国因真民主而富强的国家要颠覆我们, 自满于现状而不愿被超越的国家要诋毁我们, 中国政府应坚强地走自己的路,为到时替全世界诠释那被欧美强奸的民主,它们的大学里都在尽力地修改那从它们荒谬的中世纪中演变来的残缺不全的民主, 却要我们接受现行的劣质民主,想得美

Posted by: winbox | October 9, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to the Chinese to blow it completely but they are new to the peace prize, we are experienced at it and simply took it as a sign to escalate our wars.. to achieve a lasting peace or end all wars or just peace at the end of a big stick or peace with honorbombings...

Posted by: Wildthing1 | October 9, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Chinese government has shown immaturity in handling this issue. They have increased the curiosity of people by jamming the traffic and news will spread faster. Also LIU is fighting for a right cause as sooner or later democracy will come in China, just that this ways change may be violent. http://businessnbeyond.blogspot.com/2010/08/china-cant-afford-this_04.html

Posted by: thoughtsbin | October 10, 2010 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Free Liu Xiaobo

http://www.zazzle.com/liuxb_new_pic3_free_liu_xiaobo_free_li_xiaobo_tshirt-235136119054149565

Posted by: alee1234 | October 10, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

After bending over to name Al Bore and Barack Obama for the Nobel Peace Prize, it is a surprise that the Nobel Committee actually picked someone who has made a sacrifice for human rights.

Posted by: sailhardy | October 11, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse

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