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Posted at 7:22 PM ET, 01/ 4/2011

Eric Cantor knows best? The GOP moves on health care.

By Stephen Stromberg

The trouble with politicians who win elections is that they start sounding like incoming House Majority Leader Eric Cantor on Tuesday. In a fleeting moment of modesty, he assured reporters that the election "wasn't necessarily an election about us." Then, recovering, he went on to describe how the election was thorough, affirmative endorsement of the Republicans' platform, particularly on health care.

"I think it is fair to say, when it comes to Leader Reid, to Leader Pelosi... they clearly don't understand what Americans want as far as health care is concerned."

That's possible. So who does understand? Eric Cantor, of course.

"We just need to repeal [the health-care law], as the American people have spoken out and said."

"Most Americans want to see this health care bill gone."

The health-care law "is something that is rejected by the majority of the people. This has been litigated in this last election."

One problem: Neither the bulk of election-day exit polling nor current telephone polling really suggests that the election was about repealing the health-care law -- it wasn't -- or that a majority of Americans favor doing so, particularly with nothing on deck to replace it.

Reporters Tuesday kept pushing: Even if the polls fully evidenced Cantor's claims, what would be the point of attempting to repeal the health-care law if both the Senate and the White House would reject the measure? And if this isn't just symbolic, wouldn't repeal possibly increase the sort of uncertainty that businesses hate? Cantor responded:

"The imperative right now is to make sure that we send a repeal bill across the floor, reflecting our willingness to listen to the American people.... the Senate can serve as a cul de sac if that's what it wants to be."

He could do his audience a favor by making his non-answer answers a little less blatant.

Don't worry, though. Cantor insisted -- apparently unaware of the irony as he continued to combine logically incompatible talking points -- that "what this Republican Majority is going to be about is striving for results."

Just because Republicans won the election doesn't mean that everything they want to do commands majority support. Cantor could simply argue that repealing the health-care law is good for the country. Instead, he is overreading the GOP's mandate. Legislating with this sort of logic is just what Republicans warned Democrats about after 2008, with the line about America being a "center-right country." If they were right then, Republicans might want to keep the "center" of "center-right" in mind now.

By Stephen Stromberg  | January 4, 2011; 7:22 PM ET
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He isnt' paying attention to anything that contradicts his view of the world which is that a majority want healthcare and what he is doing is his unAmerican unpatriotic best to spew misinformation and lies because they cannot rule unless the sheep are afraid. He is a corrupt corporate shill.

Posted by: jacquie1 | January 4, 2011 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I couldn't agree more with the comments of jacquie1.

Even as an independent voter that always voted only for the interests of Americans, I couldn't help but look at all these extreme and self-interest Republican politicians, including Eric Cantor, as nothing but running dogs (as the old Chinese would called such individuals) for the rich and greedy corporations. Considering that it's such a huge bill, I can't believe that there is nothing good in the health care bill -- as these running dogs would have the Americans believe. Americans need to dig into the finances of these people to see which of the interest groups (other than the American voters) are financing these dogs.

Remember that from the first day Mr. Obama took office, Cantor and other running dogs such as Boehner, etc., announced publicly that they had no intention of work with Obama -- even before Obama had a chance to announce any legislative proposals. If that sort of attitude isn't anti-Americans, I don't know what is.

Let's remember that Jesus said "What you do for the least, you for it for me."

Posted by: futboldreamer | January 4, 2011 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Eric Cantor is cut from the same mould as George Allen. Both have presidential ambitions. Both are racists and misogynists. Both dream of a return to the good old plantation days in Virginia. Mr. Cantor forgets that back in the day when the White Supremacy ruled, they hated blacks and held no respect for jews.

Posted by: fabricmaven1 | January 4, 2011 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Cantor is the worst of them all (dem or repub), and he's my rep! Yay!

Posted by: dhenken1 | January 4, 2011 9:33 PM | Report abuse


Cantor seems to think that the House is Congress and Boehner is president.

Well,nooooo. We are all gonna see if they can take what they dish. The Republicans are gonna have one hellava fight on their hands. They don't know Pres. Obama. Not really.

Po' man.

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Posted by: Evenfoolsarerightsometimes | January 4, 2011 9:42 PM | Report abuse

If we had universal public health care there would be no need for unfair and imbalanced special deals for granfallooners like, "911 responders."

Posted by: AIPACiswar | January 4, 2011 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I work for a health and welfare fund. We aren't waiting for later; we are upgrading according to the new laws now. Dozens of members have called and are thrilled with being able to place their older kids back on their healthcare. Not one complaint. Also haven't heard any seniors complaining about the plans to cover the Medicare donut hole. Nor about not losing their care for pre-existing conditions, etc. So just what and who is cantor talking about?

Posted by: mikel7 | January 4, 2011 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I work for a health and welfare fund. We aren't waiting for later; we are upgrading according to the new laws now. Dozens of members have called and are thrilled with being able to place their older kids back on their healthcare. Not one complaint. Also haven't heard any seniors complaining about the plans to cover the Medicare donut hole. Nor about not losing their care for pre-existing conditions, etc. So just what and who is cantor talking about?

Posted by: mikel7 | January 4, 2011 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I work for a health and welfare fund. We aren't waiting for later; we are upgrading according to the new laws now. Dozens of members have called and are thrilled with being able to place their older kids back on their healthcare. Not one complaint. Also haven't heard any seniors complaining about the plans to cover the Medicare donut hole. Nor about not losing their care for pre-existing conditions, etc. So just what and who is cantor talking about?

Posted by: mikel7 | January 4, 2011 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Sorry about the repeats.

Posted by: mikel7 | January 4, 2011 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Cantor, isn't he the one briefing Bibi of Israel, his authentic leader, on how the US Congress will now be under control? For the life of me, I cannot understand how this duality of country loyalties is acceptable from a high elected official in this country, much less to be part of the leadership in the US congress. Next step, speaker of the house reporting to a foreign prime minister through their embassy in Washington?

Posted by: likovid | January 4, 2011 10:43 PM | Report abuse

the american people DO want this thing repealed. what crack are you people smoking when you read the polls. i'm really sorry you progressives are poor losers, but lose is what you did, on Nov 2, and in grand fashion. try to have a little class in your loss, sound a little less like a whining bunch of 3rd graders. the last two years were not what the american public wanted, and the public spoke. deal with it, liberals.

Posted by: subframer | January 4, 2011 10:49 PM | Report abuse

We will have to hope the Republicans cannot win on the anti-people agenda they have. If a corporation or business wants some legislative benefit, by golly the Republicans will try to shove it through, just ask Eric Cantor or Darrel Issa.
Wake up, the conservative view of balancing the budget is to say as long as the wealthy get a 20000 dollar tax break deficits don't matter. But those low down scofflaws taking that 200 dollars a month food stamp should be cut off because they are adding to the deficit.

Posted by: hamkast | January 4, 2011 11:00 PM | Report abuse

The American debate about health care illustrates it is not a front burner issue. I gather that "most" Americans are satisfied with the HC policy they currently have. We are not a country that looks out for the masses, so covering an extra 30 million people is not worth paying for apparently. The Dems passed ACA while ignoring other headline issues. ACA is proactive policy in that it is designed to kick in many years down the road and to most Americans it is complex and abstract, neither of which we digest very well. We do not ask that our politicians be proactive, and in fact we don't like proactive pols as evidenced by the fact we have a Republication party that is the retroactive party. We like running in place, if we are forced to run at all.

Americans determine priorities by the headline of the day. Today it is jobs, tomorrow will be gas prices depending on what the price is. Pols are smart not to commit because we are fickle. Who knows what our priorities will be tomorrow. Legislating proactively is impossible, and the Dems were swatted last Nov for attempting it. Health care will be a front burner issue when we finally realize the costs are becoming burdensome, or we finally realize we are being manipulated by insurance companies, or more of us aging boomers are dropped from coverage because of existing conditions. Take your pick.

We need to start this debate by asking, do we want subsidized health care to look like? Presumably, the answer is...we want it. Otherwise, all our disposable income goes into HC. Then, how much are we willing to pay individually (as % of annual income) vs. the government? How should the elderly pay for health care? We need to have an introspective and open discussion on what we want, then vote on it.

However, the Republicans will have a hard time repealing ACA without an alternative. They had better come up with one.

Posted by: gfoster56 | January 4, 2011 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Did you see the copy of the 2 page bill? It's right out of the 70s. Here's a copy link in pdf format supplied on Twitter from a federal lobbyist. IT illiteracy is going to do us all in.

http://rules-republicans.house.gov/Media/PDF/HR__-Repeal.pdf

Love that Pledge for America that was written by a staff member who was a former lobbyist for AIG and Pfizer to name a few. IT Literacy would be helpful in the future to remove personal information from pdfs that are created, like the rest of us do in the office:) Is this the day when the Constitution is read aloud?

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2010/12/constitution-will-read-us-constitution.html

I do like to see "hands on" participation in technology but this is having staff do the work, the link above talks about our digital literacy campaign n California that says even at Burger King you need to be hands on with general consumer literacy.

Most non participants don't have a clue on what a rest of all the technologies that back up laws cost either and think it grows on trees so I have little faith in their words, too much like the 70s.

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2010/11/do-some-think-that-health-it-costs-and.html

Posted by: ducknetservices | January 4, 2011 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Thank God for Cantor! A politician who is willing to do the right thing and not mealy-mouth about telling it like it is. Repealing the multi-trillion dollar, unconstitutional Obamacare debacle will do more to lower the deficit and create jobs than most anything they can do.

Health Care is a commodity, not a right. It is something that American consumers can purchase if they want it and not purchase if they don't want it. Forcing Americans to purchase anything is unconstitutional. It is especially distasteful when taxpayers are being forced to purchase health insurance they don't need or want to subsidize illegal aliens and abortions. Starting tomorrow Obama is going to be handed his head regularly and in 2012 he will slip out of town a failed loser and be held in disdain by the American people as one of the worst presidents of all time. President Sarah Palin will have to spend most of her first term cleaning up Obama's mess but that will leave her free during her second term to move America forward in a positive direction by shrinking government, deporting illegal aliens and rolling back the nanny state.

Posted by: oldno7 | January 5, 2011 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Cantor is an idiot.

Posted by: paris1969 | January 5, 2011 2:17 AM | Report abuse

Health care "reform" legislation was an absolute semi-literate disaster from the very start.

It was written by lobbyists and lawyers. The lobbyists want a slice of the pie and the lawyers know absolutely nothing about health care.

The American people do not want this incomprehensible, unworkable mess.

Repeal it, lock stock and barrel. Now, before it kills more jobs.

Posted by: NoDonkey | January 5, 2011 3:41 AM | Report abuse

At least have the intellectual honestly to repeal Medicare at the same time. They can build the entire system fresh using the wealth of visionary Republican ideas. Like tort reform. Or tort reform.

Posted by: jack824 | January 5, 2011 4:42 AM | Report abuse

Apples are oranges and night is day. Whatever you want to hear, I'll say.
The bottom line is we, the keepers of the status quo, win! So, the rich get richer and more powerful until the day that the other classes get so fed up with life that they rebel. Doesn't seem like that will ever happen!

We'll see.

Posted by: dmyers412 | January 5, 2011 5:03 AM | Report abuse

Go ahead Cantor, try to steal our healthcare...see how far you get,

Posted by: treefrog2 | January 5, 2011 6:33 AM | Report abuse

They need to get rid of Obamacare as long as the government keeps their hands off my Medicare.

Posted by: kparc1212 | January 5, 2011 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Eric Cantor is an embarassment to Jewish Americans especially the way he sucks up to the Orange man, Boehner. Maybe he gets a boner doing it? He may be in Washington but his mind is back in old Virginy on the plantation.

Posted by: msjn1 | January 5, 2011 8:05 AM | Report abuse

@subframer - Do you bother checking out links before posting? The data's all there. 48% - 47%. If you think that's an overwhelming mandate, I've got a bridge in Wasilla to sell you.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 5, 2011 8:28 AM | Report abuse

The Morons(R-USA) aka Republicans want to repeal the "Obamacare" as the first order of business after they finish their Kumbaya & the Speaker gets the gavel & finishes weeping about his "American Dream". They know that it won't go through 2 hurdles out of the 3. They don't have an alternative healthcare plan other than "privatizing" which means you are at the mercy of crooks in the healthcare industry.
The angry (jobless)young & old have realized that there is some thing good in Obamacare for them viz they can stay in their parents' Health Insurance till they are 26 & the "donut hole" will be plugged, respectively. Are these idiots aka Republican legislators whose healthcare is subsidized by us-tax payers, going to deprive the young & old of one of the good things that is happening to them?
Attack dogs like Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Faux News et al. successfully confused the public by repeating their lies over & over & over again. Now some people have seen through these lies.

Posted by: sarvenk63 | January 5, 2011 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Mid term results were about poor prospects for employment among the masses. Why are the prospects so poor? Businesses,some flush with cash, are not hiring. So, how does one squeeze even more out of this?- BLAME health care legislation; BLAME food labeling laws; BLAME government spending on stimulus; BLAME the TARP. For the Republicans it is all about casting BLAME even when their constituency heart,business, has hugely benefitted from this 'government largesse'. Yet all the BLAME items listed, and many more not, benefit Americans generally; they are to make the USA a better, more equitable place in which to live and work. What's so wrong with that? Oh yeah, the party of NO NO NO would then be out of business. There is one good thing about the mid-term results that will evidence itself in the presidential election upcoming-it'll expose the Republicans even further as being without any vision that inspires. The media is doing a good job of holding the politicians' feet to the fire.Keep it up!

Posted by: jsasnooky | January 5, 2011 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Stromberg is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He doesn't seem to remember that if a Bill is not FUNDED, it goes nowhere, even if it's passed! Duh! And what body introduces funding? Come on, Stronberg, think real hard. Who are they? Uh, now tell me again how the Republican-controlled House is just doing this as a drill?

You sure are brilliant, man. Maybe the Post ought to give you a raise (and a pair of non-liberal-colored glasses).

Posted by: sdansker2002 | January 5, 2011 9:12 AM | Report abuse

So Sdansker2002 - the republicans will dare to defund a bill they can't get the votes to repeal?

Think so?

Jack824 - woah nellie!

All us folks who had life time retirement health care from our employers got our health care rolled into medicare - no exceptions....

Now you want to cut it?

64 million retirees out here on medicare, half of them retired workers whose health care got rolled into medicare.

Don't think you even want to think about touching it.

Posted by: dutchess2 | January 5, 2011 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I read a post calling Cantor an idiot. How immature. I would only add that he's also a smelly body cavity and a double talking liar. Perhaps the smarmiest politician in Washington which would place him "high in the running worldwide."

Posted by: roskoreh | January 5, 2011 9:58 AM | Report abuse

From oldno7:

"Health Care is a commodity, not a right." Fine, then repeal Medicare and Medicaid. It is not reasonable for us to collectively provide healthcare for the most expensive population without providing it for everyone. Why don't republicans loudly advocate for the repeal of Medicare and Medicaid when that is the source of the problem. If they want to keep these programs, then lets have a real talk about their costs and healthcare policy in general.

"It is something that American consumers can purchase if they want it and not purchase if they don't want it." This is naive. A hospital cannot run a credit check prior to offering emergency care. Plus, when medical bills get to high, consumers can and do resort to bankrupcy. These are real distortions in the healthcare market. How they are addressed requires adult conversations.

Posted by: whyyesbrain | January 5, 2011 10:00 AM | Report abuse

1. By default, every criticism needs to come with the alterative.
Under the broken system below,

(a) Inaction cost, $9trillion over the next decade, ((Some of CBO analysis : While the costs of the financial bailouts and economic stimulus bills are staggering, they are only a fraction of the coming costs from Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Over the next decade, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects that each year Medicaid will expand by 7 percent, Medicare by 6 percent, and Social Security by 5 percent. These programs face a 75-year shortfall of $43 trillion--60 times greater than the gross cost of the $700 billion TARP financial bailout)).

Under the previous broken system, health costs will skyrocket, leading to more personal, corporate, and governmental bankruptcy.

(b) The insurers set up a monopoly via consolidation violating an anti-trust law.

(c) The biggest 10 healthcare providers are driven mostly to please Wall Street and must show growing profits every three months in their reports to wall Street or their stocks values go down. So healthcare prices climb at an unreasonable rate at the expense of everyone involved.

Can the reps show me the best possible breakthrough ? Just return to the failed Bush policy based on trickle-down economics ? :

"If the rich aren't getting richer neither are the poor! The wealthy create companies and jobs; the more they have the more they can spend and that eventually filters down to the rest of us."

If so, can you explain to me why the U.S. economy was on the brink of complete collapse just like Lehman Brothers in 2008 ?

And the reps claimed earlier : Are you listening to people ?

(a) The vast majority of the PEOPLE wanted the public option that the House passed and a majority of the Senate favored, but it couldn't get past the Republican filibuster.

(b) The biggest concern about the economy is a job market, (according to CNN polling, voters said that unemployment is roughly twice as important as all other top issues combined.)

Can the reps also explain to me why they aren't listening to people ?

Looks as if the reps are set to drag the U.S. economy into another failed Bush era via the ransom deal, repeal of ACA.
( Looks as if the reps are Glorifying the culture of corruption as the trickle-down economics )

Posted by: hsr06011 | January 5, 2011 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Sorry about that idiot parrot Cantor....I did what I could at the ballot box to keep the House GOP from having two idiots at the top.

Posted by: bhcva | January 5, 2011 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Sorry about that idiot parrot Cantor....I did what I could at the ballot box to keep the House GOP from having two idiots at the top.

Posted by: bhcva | January 5, 2011 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Those people Cantor constantly refers to couldn't care less about healthcare. What they really want to hear Cantor talk about is a down to earth honest plan to create jobs for middle America. If he can't produce such a plan then I understand the smokescreen. Republican yaddy-ya as usual and the Democrats haven't done much either.
Yawn!

Posted by: oldshoe1 | January 5, 2011 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Look up the term "smarmy," "minion" or "stooge" in the dictionary, and do not be surprised to find Eric Cantor's picture.

This dude, flamer that he is, is going to flame out.

Posted by: mcrockett1 | January 5, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

I don't think this Republican party is capable of a coherent, logical message or actions. Think about it: You campaigned on deficit reduction but you're going to try to repeal the health care bill (which ain't gonna happen), which will reduce the deficit - going so far as to write an exception into your deficit reduction House rules that says you can increase the deficit here, just 'cause. It's all about the politics for them. Prove me wrong, GOP.

Posted by: ravensfan20008 | January 5, 2011 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Stupidity, delusions and doing everything possible to help those who need it least - the standard Republican program. Why is what Cantor has to say even news? - he's a talking parrot.

Posted by: kg1957 | January 5, 2011 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Stupidity, delusions and doing everything possible to help those who need it least - the standard Republican program. Why is what Cantor has to say even news? - he's a talking parrot.

Posted by: kg1957 | January 5, 2011 10:52 AM | Report abuse

For those whining about "don't touch my healthcare, Obamacare or Medicare" I say have you actually read the bill?

It is a jobkiller and a situation where the "cure" is worse than the "disease." It cuts $500billion from Medicare but will the cuts really happen...;never have in the past what makes you think they will happen now ?

There are Republican alternatives that my new rep did talk about that will be put to a vote that are more free-market oriented.
Ex., allowing individuals & small business to pool resources and buy health insurance across state lines. This would force insurers to compete on price & coverage.
Incidentally my Democratic governor has also proposed this in WA state.

Posted by: King2641 | January 5, 2011 11:31 AM | Report abuse

For those whining about "don't touch my healthcare, Obamacare or Medicare" I say have you actually read the bill?

It is a jobkiller and a situation where the "cure" is worse than the "disease." It cuts $500billion from Medicare but will the cuts really happen...;never have in the past what makes you think they will happen now ?

There are Republican alternatives that my new rep did talk about that will be put to a vote that are more free-market oriented.
Ex., allowing individuals & small business to pool resources and buy health insurance across state lines. This would force insurers to compete on price & coverage.
Incidentally my Democratic governor has also proposed this in WA state.

Posted by: King2641 | January 5, 2011 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I'm really reaching the point if any "Keep your government paws off Medicare" senior who voted for the Republicans lose their Medicare coverage at the hands of the Republicans hell bent quest to eliminate the program, I'm going to just laugh in their face.

You get what you deserve.

Posted by: dcp26851 | January 5, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jack824 | January 5, 2011 4:42 AM
"At least have the intellectual honestly to repeal Medicare at the same time. They can build the entire system fresh using the wealth of visionary Republican ideas. Like tort reform. Or tort reform."

TORT reform, another republican joke. No one can point to a state where tort reform has passed that has significantly lower HC premiums, not one.

Republicans would like to repeal Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security so expect an escalation of lies repeated over and over so many time that members of congress repeat them as facts and Rubes like
subframer | January 4, 2011 10:49 PM
without question believe the lies.

Republicans are fomenting class warfare, using teebaggers to rail against "THOSE" other people.

Republican senators had no problem calling unemployed Americans ... MOOCHERS, Too lazy to look for work etc...

This is a party that thinks it knows how to govern???

Posted by: knjincvc | January 5, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

What a punk a**-wipe this guy Cantor is. He's nothing but the butt-boy for John "The Man from Minwax" Boehner, the cry-baby who endorses Nazi-wannabes while his minion stands next to him with his trademark s&%#-eating grin and vacant deer-in-the-headlight stare. If this is the best the GOP-House can muster in terms of "leadership," be afraid, be very afraid.

Posted by: dddvu | January 5, 2011 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: treefrog2:


"Go ahead Cantor, try to steal our healthcare...see how far you get"

Obama has gotten pretty far by stealing mine. Premiums are going up even faster now. I am part of that 80+% that has healthcare and we are getting the shaft. But it does not matter to the leaches like yourself who feel everyone else owes you something without you working for it.

Posted by: Pilot1 | January 5, 2011 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like Cantor (along with his fellow Repubs) just haven't learned the lesson -- greedy, greedy makes a hungry puppy.

Posted by: lddoyle2002 | January 5, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

subframer wrote:
the american people DO want this thing repealed. what crack are you people smoking when you read the polls. i'm really sorry you progressives are poor losers, but lose is what you did, on Nov 2, and in grand fashion. try to have a little class in your loss, sound a little less like a whining bunch of 3rd graders. the last two years were not what the american public wanted, and the public spoke. deal with it, liberals.
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Show me the polls!

Posted by: OHREALLYNOW | January 5, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Pilot1 | January 5, 2011 12:39 PM
“Obama has gotten pretty far by stealing mine. Premiums are going up even faster now. I am part of that 80+% that has healthcare and we are getting the shaft. But it does not matter to the leaches like yourself who feel everyone else owes you something without you working for it.”


WOW Obama forced your HC to go up! Amazing!
What you are saying is insurance companies are using any excuse to gouge their customers.
And what 80+% have HC?
15% Of Americans do not have HC, another 30+% are under insured.
Those of us with employer provided HC can expect republicans to pass a bill taxing HC benefits as income. Exempting themselves of course.

Posted by: knjincvc | January 5, 2011 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Just love hearing the conservatives trying to convince themselves everything will be wonderful now that reason has been restored to the House. Sorry guys but having watched these very same people ruin our economy I'm not so pleased and guess what this is America. My opinion is just as valid as yours and so I ask why in the conservative mind there is only THEIR opinion, anything else is evil? They must not love America, they must be (gasp) communist or socialist and too unlearned to realize it! Why else would they insist that no one gets a tax break of perhaps $10 a week unless the very richest get even more tax breaks (you don't think the rich have sheltered their money, pay tax lawyers to avoid paying taxes?). These people now insist that health care reform (hardly perfect but the FIRST attempt to help cover citizens who have been without coverage) is ObamaCare (anything to stir up the ill-informed about what the bill actually is).

I saw real progress with this bill for at least eliminating the penalty against those who do need insurance the most. The kids covered until 26 was good, the closing of the donut hole I am told by those who are retired was a Godsend. So what do these so called champions of the people (what they didn't care in 2009-10, just say no) want to do? Not replace it but repeal what has taken decades to start. I am waiting for some Republican voter to actually watch what THEIR representatives actually do. Issa proclaiming before the election that this administration was the most corrupt ever. Really? No-bid contracts under W don't raise an eyebrow? Nixon sending in thieves wasn't a bit much? Now he goes to WALL STREET and says guys, we let you blow the economy to heck when we got rid of laws, the Dems actually put a few back in, they don't do much, you've figured ways around them BUT we're the only ones who know how to really ruin the world so you tell us what you want us to attack. And no one from your party says boo. I'd be calling Issa, the Weeper, anyone in power and complaining. Republicans? They just mutter, send in more money and agree that even if not in power it's never the fault of THEIR party.

I'm also waiting for the party faithful to go after The Weeper for military transportation to/from DC as they did Nancy P. Difference is NOW Republicans will say as Speaker they MUST have security and travel by military transport since the speaker is third in line (god help us all) to the Presidency. True the cost will be a bit cheaper since the distance is half but what was outlandish for Nancy is outrageous for the Weeper -- Dems never complained about DeLay or Gindrich or even the Weeper -- Republicans DID.

Posted by: Lemon7221 | January 5, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Cantor is the very definition of a forked-tongued devil. He's the one who said freezing federal spending would save $100 billion in the first year (http://bit.ly/areDmC). Now he's backing away from that. You know what? Let that liar and his cabal go ahead and cut everything, including SS and Medicare. I can't wait to hear all the whining from the tea partiers when they have to pick up the health care and living expenses for their parents. Better yet, when that fully paid for house of Mom and Dad's gets repo'd to pay for their health care costs. Yeah, looking forward to that!

Posted by: Misty630 | January 5, 2011 1:16 PM | Report abuse

oldno7-
Regardless of website, reactionaries comments are all the same. Nice line about "president sarah palin" (notice no capitalization, as this will never occur).

Reactionaries think they can brute force America back to greatness thru rhetoric and 'love handled' Boss Hoggs.

Posted by: sherlockjt | January 5, 2011 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Lemon7221 | January 5, 2011 1:05 PM
"I'm also waiting for the party faithful to go after The Weeper for military transportation to/from DC as they did Nancy P. Difference is NOW Republicans will say as Speaker they MUST have security and travel by military transport since the speaker is third in line (god help us all) to the Presidency. True the cost will be a bit cheaper since the distance is half but what was outlandish for Nancy is outrageous for the Weeper -- Dems never complained about DeLay or Gindrich or even the Weeper -- Republicans DID."

Boehner will be able to use a smaller jet because of the shorter distance so republicans will claim that Boehner is saving money by not using a 757 jet.

Boehner wants to cut discretionary spending 20% or $100 Billion dollars, which is equal to 25 weeks in Iraq, but only willing to cut the house budget 2 1/2 % ... in other words it's business as usual.

Posted by: knjincvc | January 5, 2011 1:22 PM | Report abuse

A few comments.

The health care law does establish the ability to have insurance exchanges where small businesses and individuals can act as a group to purchase insurance. So this Republican idea already exists in the law and thus cannot be introduced as a law again.

Pu chasing across state lines has two drawbacks. One is that it infringes on states rights (so much for the Republican "states rights" rhetoric. Apparently it only applies where they say it applies). The second is that medical costs keep rising thus ensuring that insurance industry consolidation will continue. But, different regions have different health care costs. It's very unlikely that any insurance company is going to allow people in CA to buy insurance from an affiliate in Idaho because it costs less. As more and more consolidation occurs the more restrictive corporate policy as to where you can buy a policy from becomes. In other words, industry consolidation will cause the same effect of state law today as the industry practice will be to not poach on customers in CA from Idaho so as not to get poached on yourself. So "buying" across state lines is great political theater but of little practical consequence.

Now as to the leeches comments by Pilot1. The 10% or 20% or 30% of Americans that don't have health care that most talk about are not leeches. They are in fact working Americans who's employers do not offer health insurance as a benefit. Many of those that don't work, who are on welfare, are already eligible for Medicaid and are not eligible for ACA. Nor are illegal immigrants going to get health care under this plan.

Many of these folks the plan helps work two or three or four part time jobs equaling 50, 60, or more hours per week. But at minimum wage the cost of an individual policy, which is 25% to 50% higher than the price of a group policy for the same coverage. This pushes the cost of a decent policy to 10K to 15K per year. If you're making under $30K per year (which is roughly 2x the minimum wage) this make health insurance un-affordable. You simply cannot commit 1/3 to 1/2 of gross income to health insurance. But maybe you just believe anyone making less than six figures isn't working for what they get.

BTW: more and more employers are dropping health insurance as a benefit so your 80%+ number is also suspect.

Posted by: elkiii_2008 | January 5, 2011 1:24 PM | Report abuse

subframer wrote:
"i'm really sorry you progressives are poor losers, but lose is what you did, on Nov 2, and in grand fashion. try to have a little class in your loss,"

You mean class like republicans used when they lost in 2006 and 2008?

Posted by: knjincvc | January 5, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

subframer, you are your ilk can't even read for yourself. The polls show the American people support the health care bill. If there a Newspaper equivalent of FOX that you read? You can note th artful language people like Cantor us to claim that the American people did not want the health care bill without directly lying, just using BS language to try to hide the truth.

Posted by: withersb | January 5, 2011 1:31 PM | Report abuse

subframer wrote:
"i'm really sorry you progressives are poor losers, but lose is what you did, on Nov 2, and in grand fashion. try to have a little class in your loss,"

You mean class like republicans used when they lost in 2006 and 2008?

Posted by: knjincvc | January 5, 2011 1:32 PM | Report abuse

The people who continue to listen lies put out by this party instead of checking the fact are responsible for the stupid things they're doing. We say we want the parties to work together to make government run and then we reward the last two years of very bad behavior by electing more lying republicans. we deserve what we get.

Posted by: cdelarosa5 | January 5, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Eric Cantor is no better or worse that 95% of the rest of humanity. He, like the rest of us, wants what is best for himself, and his family and friends. Whats best for himself is to be re-elected, and to do that he has to speak only to one side of the issues that he thinks that will favor himself and his friends.

Unfortunately for both the Republicans, and the rest of us however, what he is saying is badly twisted and violates readily verifiable reality.

Polls indicate that the public is split on the topic of HC. Trying to re-litigate the issue now threatens Republicans because polls indicate that most of us really support all of the provisions in the HC bill, while disliking the bill itself.

This is nonsensical of course, and the more people understand that they really like what they are opposing that opposition will drop.

Furthermore, as pointed out above, readily available polling indicate that this election was really about jobs and the economy. All the public need to see is that the Republicans care more about stupid partisan victories than getting people and the Republican's election success in 2010 will be crushed in 2012.

Posted by: reussere | January 5, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

For those whining about "don't touch my healthcare, Obamacare or Medicare" I say have you actually read the bill?

It is a jobkiller and a situation where the "cure" is worse than the "disease."

Posted by: King2641
=====================

You are a liar..
You never read the damn bill..
and
you have never been paying attention to the annual 30% insurance rate increases every year since Bush came to office.

I own a good size small business.
This Bill will at least give me stability and opportunity to plan healthcare cost for the future.

I still want the PUBLIC OPTION..

Health Insurance companies are obsolete in a worldwide traded world.

HRC pays out $500 million to their top executives.

What is it you do not want to know??

Posted by: pdq31 | January 5, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I think all Cantor sees is a microphones and cameras and wonders what angle he looks less like a weasel in. That is probably why he barely notices with wingnut talking points he is spouting...

Posted by: LABC | January 5, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Humm - DailyKos, MoveOn and the Soros Democratic Socialist Party members are out in earnest today. Thank god we have people like Eric Cantor that will make people take personal responsibility and not depend on the working taxpayers of this country to support them.

Posted by: twoeagle | January 5, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how much money Likud pays Eric Cantor.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | January 5, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Someone should ask Cantor why Israel ranks 16th in the efficiency of their universal health care system where individuals and businesses pay into an insurance fund while America ranks 37th with much higher costs and millions uninsured.

Posted by: MerrillFrank | January 5, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Eric Cantor in his own words shouts out his alignment with corporate interests and will be a miserable failure as both a human being and House majority whip.

His positions on several extremely important topics can be found at:

http://www.ontheissues.org/va/eric_cantor.htm

Read them and be afraid, VERY afraid!

Posted by: politico5 | January 5, 2011 5:16 PM | Report abuse

This is neither an article or a story of any kind, but instead pure, undiluted snark. Mr. Stromboley is taking a relaxed dip in snark-infested waters.

Why not just go straight to the ad hominem attacks, Stromboley, why fool around trying to sound like some kind of reporter?

Posted by: tom75 | January 5, 2011 5:20 PM | Report abuse

If Obama had not had his head in the clouds as a young Senator who obviously is a know-it-all he would not have tried to dump such an overwhelming program on us at this time. Rather he would have examined the major problems and addressed them, perhaps one at a time. Needy Neighborhoods have plenty of vacant space to accommodate clinics staffed perhaps by Nurse Practicioners or Doctors where the majority of under served could get medical help. Expensive emergency rooms are overused, expensive and unnecessary for much of their usage. Reforming our medical system needs gradual steps to replace the overly costly system, plus payment by those able to pay and reduction of the overall cost of the system. Reform yes - Taxation and subsidizing young people to age 26 NO. At what age does a man get finally called an 'adult' and take responsibility for himself? I am not willing to subsidize someone through law school or medical school by paying for their health care only to be billed $300 to $600 an hour by them when they graduate.

Posted by: dbothroydearthlinknet | January 5, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Miss Prissy Cantor is just an embarrassment. Whenever he opens his mouth, you know he's lying.

Posted by: B-rod | January 5, 2011 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I work, pay taxes and have health insurance through my employer. But I don't want the health care law repealed. Health care is a human right. I don't mind my tax dollars going to provide affordable health insurance to everyone. What kind of people don't care for their neighbor?

Posted by: MNUSA | January 5, 2011 6:59 PM | Report abuse

At just about every campaign speech I heard, or read, from Obama - he said he would pass universal healthcare. He did. If it was the will of the voters then, and it is the voters will to repeal it now, those voters seem pretty fickle.
More likely the "will" of those two sets of voters on this and a number of issues are a bit more complex and neither interpretation is right or wrong.
I would wager the reality of Mr. Cantors position is that it is a case of safe grandstanding to the right wing - a significant part of his party's support. They can rant and rave against "OBAMACARE"
to the ecstacy of Fox' talking heads and all that listen to them knowing it will (safely) come to naught in the Senate. Then, they can sit back and test the water as the law goes into effect without attacking any component which "center Anerica" might actually like.

Posted by: mini1071 | January 5, 2011 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Let's step back and think about what the GOP wants to do here in repealing the health care reform law. Schizophrenia, which the Arizona shooter apparently suffered from, is something that often goes untreated, particularly because sufferers have no health insurance.

Obama and Pelosi just extended health care coverage to 30 million new people. If those people are similar to the rest of the population genetically, and there's no real reason to assume otherwise, roughly 150,000 (schizophrenia has a lifetime prevalence of roughly 0.5%) of them are currently walking around without medication of any sort like this young man. Actually the number is most likely much higher among the uninsured for obvious reasons (for starters, many have been rejected for health insurance for this prior condition).

So thanks to Obama and Pelosi doing something Republicans fought tooth and nail against, 150,000 people like this young man will at least have the chance to get treatment. Possibly keeping them from shooting your family at a Safeway one day. Conservatives, please say thank you to the nice president and Speaker now. On behalf of your family, and the newly-medicated strangers you will never meet, thank goodness.

And now Cantor and Boehner are trying to undo all of it. Amazing. Safeway II, here we come. Brought to you by the insurance lobby and their minions in the GOP.

Posted by: B2O2 | January 10, 2011 7:03 PM | Report abuse

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