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Posted at 3:30 PM ET, 01/ 7/2011

Is the government poisoning us with fluoride, after all?

By Stephen Stromberg

"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?" -- Gen. Jack Ripper, "Dr. Strangelove"

Wait...does Friday's news that some Americans' water may be over-fluoridated mean that fellow from "Dr. Strangelove" was right? Has the government really been polluting our precious bodily fluids for a full half century? Get me a glass of rain water and pure-grain alcohol, Gen. Ripper! I need to sit down.

Too much fluoride in the water -- watch out, Maryland, the AP reports that you're "the most fluoridated state" -- apparently causes streaking on teenagers' teeth, which is not the sort of streaking that your adolescents are interested in.

This might answer so many questions about the last 50 years.

- Why are the baby boomers a failure of a generation?

-Why are women in Alaska suddenly turning into bears?

-Why is a third of America obsessed with anchor babies, and how can I get one?

-Why did I have to choose between Team Edward and Team Jacob, and why wouldn't Elena Kagan help me?

-Why was I born with unfavorable Eustachian tubes, which make me prone to infections during the winter?

-Why do people pretend that Jack White's music is pleasant to hear?

-Why did 5,000 birds fall out of the sky in Arkansas?

And is it any coincidence that this revelation is only emerging now that Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has subpoena power? David Ignatius may say that there are hints of Joe McCarthy in Issa's rhetoric. But just look at the results -- and only two days into the GOP House.

"Wait," you might be thinking, "hasn't fluoridating water been one of the great public health successes of the past century, resulting in a dramatic drop in cavities and other tooth decay, benefits that still far outweigh the relatively minor and easily prevented side effects?" But keep in mind that fluoridation is also responsible for every unplanned pregnancy since Nixon resigned. And the fact that Nixon resigned.

I used to be skeptical of conspiracy theories. But now I realize that, sometimes, they aren't entirely invented. There is often reference to at least the possibility of fact. Sure, you might say that this sort of thing is a dangerously overenthusiastic misreading of that possibility, resulting in Glenn Beck's audience, increased gun and ammo sales before the inauguration of Barack Obama, and Timothy McVeigh. And you might have the rational response. But, like some Tea Parties I've heard of lately, I'm not feeling all that rational right now. Must be all that fluoride.

By Stephen Stromberg  | January 7, 2011; 3:30 PM ET
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Flouride is a toxic additive and that BAD for people, especially the young who are still developing.

Recent studies by the ADA and CDC and stated as much:

http://familysurvivalhealth.wordpress.com/category/flouride/

This should not be forced on the American people any longer.

Posted by: AlanWest | January 7, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

My dentist forced me to use a fluoride product which caused a terrible allergic reaction. Then, she didn't believe I could possibly be allergic to it! The stuff is toxic, and also bad for thyroid glands. Everyone should avoid it if at all possible.

Posted by: elpo1 | January 7, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Flouride changed my life! Before flouride, I was a weakling nobody, picked on by bullies and ignored by those I longed for. Then I found flouride, and everything changed. Now I have the world at my feet, men sing my praises and women throw themselves at me. Sometimes they throw other women at me as well. And underwear. Also, my car is foreign and shiny. I wash it with a flouride solution once a month. I believe there is a conspiracy among people who think they know better without actually cunducting scientific research themselves to prevent me from having the flouride that gives me my superfragilistic powers.
Thats my conspiracy theory, and I'm sticking to it.

Posted by: veritasinmedium | January 7, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Conducting.....AWRRRRRR!

Posted by: veritasinmedium | January 7, 2011 5:05 PM | Report abuse

This is a rather complex issue that still needs more study. Here is my opinion and what I know/ been told by scientists and crackpots:
Fluoride has a topical effect on teeth that, in low doses (about 0.7 ml per litre of water) helps strengthen tooth enamel (apperently), however, in higher doses (ml per L unknown to me) causes mottling (discoloration) of the teeth and at even higher doses, usually only found in foreign countries such as India, can cause dental and even skeletal flourosis, that is, the fluoride binds to the calcium in teeth and bones that causes less flexibilty in bone tissue and they will fracture and break more easily.

The reason this is a particular problem for children is that due to their smaller bodies and lower blood volume, there is an increased concentration of any element in their bloodstrteam/ internal systems when they consume it. Therefore, on the higher end of water fluoridation specifications in the US (1.2ml per L) this level is just safe enough for most adults but bordering on unsafe for internal consumption for children.

There is also a key difference between topical fluoride mostly in toothpaste etc and internal fluoride in water. The argument on behalf of fluoride states that fluoride is most effective when the internal fluoride consumed in water is secreted in saliva in the mouth and consistantly bathes the teeth in a light fluoride solution throughout the day. Of course the other side of the argument states that fluoride, as a potentially highly reactive chemical with no nutritional value other than the apperent topical effect on tooth enamel, does not belong in the body in ANY concentration.

My opinion: I believe, pending further study of course, the fluoride concentration in water, if present and deemed beneficial by said research, should be capped at between 0.3-0.7 ml per L of water instead of the current higher levels. Also, teach your kids not to swallow the damn toothpaste...

Posted by: ashtar377 | January 7, 2011 5:26 PM | Report abuse

The best way to tell if something is the truth - is if the establishment calls it a conspiracy theory. I ridiculed the anti-floridation crowd for decades until I found out the government has no interest in preventing the poisoning of America.

It is far better that the government gets the lead out, plus the mercury, arsenic and radium from our water supply - instead of poisoning us with fluoride, High Fructose Corn Syrup, BPA, and the insectiside called Clothianidin - a commercial poison that is killing our honey bees made by Bayer. The EPA and FDA are corrupt and don't care.

Did Lee Harvey Oswald kill JFK all by himself?

Posted by: alance | January 7, 2011 5:31 PM | Report abuse

About 70 years ago, scientists discovered that some communities with people with mottled teeth also had fewer cavities. Their investigation found that the water supplies in those communities contained high levels of naturally occurring fluoride. You would think those same scientists who noticed the statistical anomaly about dental decay in those communities would also have discovered any unusual crippling bone abnormalities and brittleness in that population.

The description of the newer 2006 National Academy of Sciences report suggests that those latter concerns are what scientists concluded were possibilities, rather than based on any known cases.

Posted by: BTMPost | January 7, 2011 5:44 PM | Report abuse

About 70 years ago, scientists discovered that some communities with people with mottled teeth also had fewer cavities. Their investigation found that the water supplies in those communities contained high levels of naturally occurring fluoride. You would think those same scientists who noticed the statistical anomaly about dental decay in those communities would also have discovered any unusual crippling bone abnormalities and brittleness in that population.

The description of the newer 2006 National Academy of Sciences report suggests that those latter concerns are what scientists concluded were possibilities, rather than based on any known cases.

Posted by: BTMPost | January 7, 2011 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Addendum: I also think the internal effects of fluoride, especially on hormone levels etc, need to be tested as opposed to just its effect on tooth enamel. There is pretty much nothing, NO-THING, that one can put in a system as complex as the human body, that will not have even some slight chemical or mechanical effect.

Frankly, my main problem with fluoride has nothing to do with conspiracy, but with the FACT that the ONLY nutritional benefit of the consumption of fluoride is listed as strengthening tooth enamel, a TOPICAL effect. Sunscreen is topical too. So is lotion. Many things are. This does not mean they belong INSIDE US!

Posted by: ashtar377 | January 7, 2011 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Poisoning comes from ingesting a large amount of fluoride in a short period of time. Ingesting 3–5 mg/kg may cause symptoms to appear, while the estimated lethal dose is 5–10 g (32–64 mg/kg) in adults and 16 mg/kg in children.[7] Severity of symptoms depends upon the amount of fluoride ingested. These include abdominal pain, diarrhea, dysphagia, hypersalivation, mucosal injury, nausea, vomiting. Electrolyte abnormalities including hyperkalemia, hypocalcemia, hypoglycemia, and hypomagnesemia may occur. Neurological symptoms include headache, muscle weakness, hyperactive reflexes, muscular spasms, paresthesia seizures, tetanic contractions, and tremors. In severe cases, multi-organ failure will occur. Death typically results from cardiac arrest, shock, widening of QRS, and various arrhythmias occur.[7] 3-5 mg is not large. Why do you think it says do not swallow on toothpaste. It is a poison and its toxic.

Posted by: srthd98 | January 7, 2011 7:07 PM | Report abuse

http://www.infowars.com/articles/science/fluoride_study_finds_horror_stories_factual.htm

Posted by: srthd98 | January 7, 2011 7:17 PM | Report abuse

For those with a science interest, http://fluoridearticles.googlepages.com will keep you busy.

Posted by: GeraldDice | January 7, 2011 9:14 PM | Report abuse

I remember when, years ago, flouride was to be put in our water supply. A woman in a neighboring community complained so loud the city fathers went out to her house. She had well water-not city water!! They tested her water, anyway, and found out she had many times the amount of natural flouride in her water than they were planning to put in the city water. Her protest ended.

My grandmother grew up in the same community before there was city water. She lived to be 84, had all her own teeth and had never had a cavity. She had her teeth cleaned at the dentist twice a year and he always remarked on her perfect her teeth were. This could have been hereditary or it could have been because of the flouride.

I have a feeling there are many things in our water supply that are worse than flouride.

Posted by: annnort | January 7, 2011 9:27 PM | Report abuse

The other problem with flouride is that it is hard to spell.

Posted by: Martial | January 7, 2011 11:45 PM | Report abuse


Sodium Fluoride, which is what the government dumps into our water supply and approves for usage, is NOT a naturally occurring form of fluoride and is actually a component in rat poisons, insecticides and atomic bombs and is considered a TOXIC substance on its own.

Somehow, when the government allows sodium fluoride dumped into our water supply it is no longer classed as a toxin in spite of there being between 5 and 10 times the acceptable dosage when you consider how much water the average person drinks in a day.

Scientists and independent researchers have been crying out against the usage of sodium fluoride for years and years, including neurologists who have conducted no less than 18 studies around the world and discovered that, among other things like cancer and bone density damage, sodium fluoride drastically affects the brain lowering IQ's across the board, impacting children the worst.

Maybe it's time to stop calling every truth teller a conspiracy nut just because you don't want to wake up and accept that not EVERYTHING our governments do is in our best interests or good for us.

Posted by: ConspiracytoEducate | January 8, 2011 7:09 AM | Report abuse

The fluoride that they put in the water supply comes to us as a waste product of aluminum and chemical fertilizer manufacturing. It saves those two industries lots of money from not haveing to safely dispose of this toxic waste product. When fluoride was first added to a municipal water supply, the number of cavities in the people drinking it went down, but they found that neighboring areas with no fluoride added, the cavities went down in exactly the same amount, but they don't tell that side of the story much. The ADA and the CDC have recently finally admitted the truth, that fluoride is bad for our health and our teeth.

Posted by: sarah81 | January 8, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

It's hard to understand the logic behind dumping poison in our water because some people think it's good for your teeth.

Posted by: scientist1 | January 9, 2011 2:04 AM | Report abuse

Mock all you want, the NIEHS, part of the NIH (National Institute of "Health") has a recent (Dec 2010) peer-reviewed research article about how fluoride is statistically correlated with lower IQ in children.

http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/fetchArticle.action?articleURI=info:doi/10.1289/ehp.1003171

Not to mention countless research showing countries/cities without fluoridation have the same or better teeth than fluoridated countries/cities.

Not to mention the illogicality of forcing people to ingest a poison that *may* have a use TOPICALLY (to be applied on the surface).

Not to mention the lunacy of forcing the same dosage on everyone regardless of body weight, age and need. (Would you give a baby the same dose of medicine as for adults?)

Oh and by the way, fluoride is absorbed through the skin too, so even if you filter your drinking water, good luck with not taking a shower.

Too bad, as sheeple we can just keep sucking on the teat of the government paid for by vested interests. Maybe a lower IQ isn't so bad after all.

Posted by: getjiggly2 | January 9, 2011 4:12 AM | Report abuse

I think it is wonderful that a funny article has brought out, as a friend of mine said, all of the jack bat nutty people on the internet.

No we are not going to drop dead or have three headed children because of flouride. We are going to have fewer cavities.

Write some letters about radiation, magnetism, teflon, and genetic modification of corn.

Posted by: powellsanmiguel | January 10, 2011 12:18 AM | Report abuse

I can bite through a steel cable because of flouride.

LIke Jaws from 007

Posted by: Please_Fix_VAs_Roads | January 10, 2011 9:53 AM | Report abuse

And what about the accumulation of fluoride in the brain....aha!

Posted by: cozzete | January 10, 2011 11:34 AM | Report abuse

And what about the accumulation of fluoride in the brain....aha!

Posted by: cozzete | January 10, 2011 11:34 AM | Report abuse

This:
The fluoride that they put in the water supply comes to us as a waste product of aluminum and chemical fertilizer manufacturing. It saves those two industries lots of money from not having to safely dispose of this toxic waste product. When fluoride was first added to a municipal water supply, the number of cavities in the people drinking it went down, but they found that neighboring areas with no fluoride added, the cavities went down in exactly the same amount, but they don't tell that side of the story much. The ADA and the CDC have recently finally admitted the truth, that fluoride is bad for our health and our teeth.is true and the government bought into it when these manufacturers told officials it was good for us just like nuclear power plants will save us money and lower the cost of electricity.again WE bought it?the above is scientific fact.

Posted by: waddayouthink | January 10, 2011 6:12 PM | Report abuse

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