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Posted at 2:46 PM ET, 01/27/2011

Sarah Palin's weird 'Sputnik' story

By Stephen Stromberg

On Wednesday night, Sarah Palin attacked the "Sputnik moment" line from President Obama's second State of the Union address.

That was another one of those WTF moments, when he so often repeated this Sputnik moment that he would aspire Americans to celebrate. And he needs to remember that what happened back then with the former communist USSR and their victory in that race to space, yes, they won, but they also incurred so much debt at the time that it resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union.

Yikes.

In her rant, Palin wildly misconstrued the president's argument, which was not about emulating the Soviets in the 1950s but instead about the Americans who responded to early Soviet success in space exploration by educating themselves and out-innovating the Soviets. Did she listen to the speech? Alexandra Petri has more on this here.

But let's pretend that wasn't Obama's point. The Soviets didn't have an empire-draining debt problem until some 30 years after Sputnik passed over America. And when they did, it was in large part a result of massive overinvestment in heavy industry, which supported Soviet military pretensions. None of this is to argue that the Soviet economy is anything we should emulate. But let's at least get the basic facts right when we criticize it.

It's a fair guess that Palin thought she was borrowing her "insight" from the mythology of Ronald Reagan, who massively increased America's spending to spur the sort of competitive expenditure that contributed to the ballooning of Soviet debt in the 1980s. According to many conservatives, this was a -- if not the -- crucial factor that catalyzed the Soviet collapse.

But in claiming that the Soviets incurred their consequential debts long before Reagan was president, Palin ends up arguing that the Gipper wasn't nearly that responsible for the USSR spending itself to death. If a reverence for Reagan's anti-Soviet spending inspired her narrative in the first place, then this is incoherent. If she's just making this all up, then she's really also claiming that the Reagan-brought-down-the-USSR narrative is overstated.

Palin appears to be lazily checking a lot of Fox News boxes. She wants to criticize Obama's State of the Union address, so she grabs hold of the Sputnik line. She wants to make a point about debt, so she invents a history in which the USSR had a debt crisis decades before this inference could have made much sense. Even better -- her argument sounds like an implicit vindication of Reagan, but that really just makes it either self-contradictory or hostile to Reagan's legacy.

Even worse, it seems that Palin planned her rhetorical disaster, as she goes on to discuss the "Spudnut Shop," a bakery in Washington State that's succeeding without government support. Yet more evidence that her judgment in both what she says and who she has vetting it is pathetic. It's not even cleverly manipulative. It's just dreck.

Update, 5:34 p.m., Jan. 28: Readers have pointed out that I linked to the wrong chart when discussing Soviet debt. Thank you! I have replaced the link with one to a State Department/Library of Congress country study, which contains an accessibly brief discussion of the history of Soviet/Russian foreign debt. You can also find a pdf version of the country study here (scroll to page 65).

By Stephen Stromberg  | January 27, 2011; 2:46 PM ET
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Anyone who hasn't figured out by now that Sarah Palin is a mental midget who doesn't let little things like facts get in her way, isn't going to be convinced by this either.
Palin didn't understand what the president said because he used all those big words like "sputnik". She believes her own bogus attack language so much she not only believes Obama is a socialist but that he was promoting the USSR agenda by invoking sputnik. It fits so nicely in her little made up fantasy world that she can't comprehend the true reality that surrounds her.
If only China and India would give us a moment that was clear enough to let the stupid americans realize what smart americans have already figured out-We are already behind in some of the technologies of the future and the only way to catch up and lead once again is to work hard and invest in the future.

Posted by: amccoy1 | January 27, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank ...

Thank you, media everywhere, for truly listening to the drivel coming from this woman's mouth -- drivel that a LOT OF US OUT HERE recognized for what it was after she first opened that mouth 2+ years ago.

You know, maybe if the media had jumped on this farcical woman sooner, things could be a lot different today, you know? Things like President Obama getting the basic respect that all presidents enjoy ... health care that arguably could have been broader and faster to pass ... a faster moving Congress to bring about the change the pres has been talking about ... should I go on?????? If only I could bank on the media (not all of you guys, of course) speaking truth from the outset, I may have avoided this hangover/nervous breakdown that will probably last me at least the next 2 years.

Posted by: hsubyma | January 27, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

"Yet more evidence that her judgment in both what she says and who she has vetting it is pathetic. It's not even cleverly manipulative. It's just dreck."

This is news?????

Posted by: WarriorGrrl | January 27, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

"If only China and India would give us a moment that was clear enough to let the stupid americans realize what smart americans have already figured out-We are already behind in some of the technologies of the future and the only way to catch up and lead once again is to work hard and invest in the future."

Already happened, as far as I am concerned: satellite killers...prep for an attack needs ability to take out satellites; blind us and reduce communications.

Posted by: WarriorGrrl | January 27, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

the only thing scarier are those agreeing with her (on other blogs)

Posted by: JoeT1 | January 27, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

That woman is an idiot.

Posted by: cjy561 | January 27, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Palin is unfortunately one of those media pundits which belittle education as something for "the elite".

By pandering to the uneducated and feeble minded she makes them feel less inadequate.

Posted by: rbchadwick | January 27, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

That woman is an idiot.
Her antics have become tiresome.

Posted by: cjy561 | January 27, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

This woman is a hoot! More fun than watching old Monty Python reruns. Seriously, is there anyone helping her prepare/write her commentaries or speeches? Everything she says comes across as disjointed and disturbed. How could anyone take her seriously when she acts this way?

Posted by: Dtrainsdad | January 27, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

This is disturbing (if true). The lesson of Sputnik is the realization that the U.S. had apparently let its technological superiority lapse. Thirteen years later, after founding DARPA, NASA, and a few other interesting organizations, we were planting our flag on the Moon.

If Palin doesn't "get" this history and the allusion the President was making, perhaps she would benefit from sitting down and doing some more reading (and less commenting). This sort of thing makes me cringe.

Posted by: cynicalidealist | January 27, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

That woman is an idiot.
Her antics have become tiresome.

Posted by: cjy561 | January 27, 2011 3:54 PM | Report abuse

What was her message? Innovate less, eat more?

Posted by: leftcoaster | January 27, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Stephen Stromberg=Mental Midget

Posted by: bechon | January 27, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

PALIN DOERS NOT RANT!!!......."incoherent babbling" would be MUCH more appropriate.

Posted by: mrtimmaulden | January 27, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

PALIN DOERS NOT RANT!!!......."incoherent babbling" would be MUCH more appropriate.

Posted by: mrtimmaulden | January 27, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh, get a clue. It doesn't matter what Sarah Palin says, because she looks so pretty saying it. She is absolutely adorable.

Posted by: bubbasouth | January 27, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

PALIN DOES NOT RANT!!!! ......"incoherent babbling" would be more appropriate. I honestly believe her witless fold believes she is talking in tongues and hear whatever they want to believe.

Posted by: mrtimmaulden | January 27, 2011 4:07 PM | Report abuse

But do not forget - since she can see it from Alaska, she just might be an expert on Russia.

Posted by: RBTX | January 27, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Well, she does think cross hairs are surveyor's symbols...
And when " you take up arms " it's synonymous with voting.
Not sure how " reload " fits in with her typical skewed analogy.
Voting twice, perhaps ?
More and more conservatives understand that this woman is an embarrassment .
The Democrats were wise to realize that Alvin Greene was not someone they wanted to idolize.
Tea Party people go the opposite way and worship Palin.
The Norm Crosby of politicians.

Posted by: CaptainKarl | January 27, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

not sure which is worse - completely missing what the Sputnik moment refers to in the first place (our exceptional response to Sputnik, not the USSR's investment in Sputnik) or her thinking that Sputnik doomed the USSR.

that she unintentionally undermines the case for American exceptionalism and Reagan's contribution to the demise of the Soviet Union just raises the irony level, and the fact that government spending was involved in both just puts it over the top.

Posted by: JoeT1 | January 27, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Her message was that we shouldn't emulate the Russians and win the space race! She remembers her nighbors watching Sputnik go up from their homes in Alaska and I'll tell you what, they could have come right over! Now, if anyone can decipher her Palinisms please submit your answers in a self addressed stamp envelope to any reputable news station (not Faux News)and then that'll be something the President will have to address!

Posted by: crossroadsnow | January 27, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

The scary thing is that Sarah Palin is going to be our next President. Obama has lost support from the folks that elected him and no one on the Right can challenge Sarah. It's going to be a fun 4 years.

Posted by: rparker125 | January 27, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Would someone please do us all a favor and tell this ignorant, hateful woman to shut up once and for all. She lost the election, and has been a snarky loser in every job that she has ever pretended to do. She is a know nothing bigot who has never said anything good about anyone that is in her way.

Posted by: Luke2 | January 27, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I could of saved you all alot of time if you had asked me about sarah long ago. signed, an alaskan.

Posted by: alaskan_teleman | January 27, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

@warriorgrrl
It's not news. It is an opinion piece.

Posted by: caffeinated_drew | January 27, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse


for Obama a "sputnik moment" means - give me lots of money to spend on my ridiculous pet projects.

Palin - "speaking truth to power" as the libtards like to say.

Posted by: pgr88 | January 27, 2011 4:17 PM | Report abuse

@warriorgrrl
It's not news. It is an opinion piece.

Posted by: caffeinated_drew | January 27, 2011 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a WTF moment, personified.

Posted by: OldWarDog | January 27, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

The non-hilarious part of this ramble is that so many take her seriously. She, Bachmann and O'Donnell summarize what the Tea Party is all about and is very disturbing to find that about a third of the population can't see anything wrong with their mindless blathering. Quite a trio stirring the pot.

Posted by: jeffl240 | January 27, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Every time she opens her mouth, she steps on her tongue. Is she really in tune with the world? Imagine her as a leader--scary!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bnoe1 | January 27, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin IS a WTF moment, in the flesh.

Posted by: OldWarDog | January 27, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps you didn’t get the memo: both Ms. Palin and Mr. McCain LOST the election. Mr. McCain is still a senator, she, on the other hand, is not in an elected position - and yet – you choose to focus on her comments about the SOTU, even when she gave neither the official nor unofficial rebuttal. Why? I’m guessing that she’s the Red Herring, (or scapegoat,) you all use to divert all of the Obamabots away from the real problems; the ones that have been exacerbated by the supreme incompetency of Pres. Jr. Senator. Pretty clever actually: take a very emotional and easily influenced group of people, (as most liberals are,) and point the demented, irrational feelings that they used to have for Pres. Bush to Ms. Palin. I see by the comments they’ve left here, your plan is working. Luckily some of us are much too smart, (and awake) for that.

Posted by: sheila7 | January 27, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Why does anyone give this woman a microphone to begin with? If she was playing with a full deck to begin with, she would have some sense, which she has neither.

Posted by: janecolby | January 27, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

She is out of touch with reality
A WTF original.

Posted by: bnoe1 | January 27, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

oh i so wish the USA were like the former USSR. we would be in heaven now; everyone sharing everything. no persons would be in want of food. no persons would be without a place to live. total civility. a pure and unadulterated society! we would be so happy together as a nation.

Posted by: jpdtiga | January 27, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

They make things up, as they go. The other crazy lady, Bachmann,said a couple of days ago that John Quincy Adams abolished slavery.

Posted by: crosseyedamerican | January 27, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

They make things up, as they go. The other crazy lady, Bachmann,said a couple of days ago that John Quincy Adams abolished slavery.

Posted by: crosseyedamerican | January 27, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

How refreshing to read an article that exposes Palin's patent imbecility instead of publishing her incoherent, but dangerous ravings as serious political discourse. Since half of America appears to have an intelligence deficit the size of a black hole, blasting the public with her image and bizarre fabrications only encourages them to to ignore facts and perpetrate the ignorant myths that circulate as "free speech". Whatever happened to reasoned thought and educated analysis? Or am I just too old to realize it has gone the way of the dinosaurs? Please help those of us who value patience, civility, common sense and intelligence, and stop catering to this loon - permanently. A friend pointed out that if, instead of being attractive, Palin were an overweight middle aged smoker, she would never have received a political second glance. And what a sad truth that is. The press has it in its power to educate, illuminate and inspire with the truth. If more articles like this were written, who knows? It might make a difference.

Posted by: royandgladys | January 27, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Is there no one who can step between this poor woman and a microphone?

Posted by: Cognomen08 | January 27, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Gosh, you KNOW neither Palin nor Bachmann give a damn what they say is true or not, just as long as they are making a noise the media will cover. And it does. So in the long run, they are smarter than the media.

Posted by: manv | January 27, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Let's not leave the impression that Palin was the only mental midget trying to turn the reference to Sputnik into something that it wasn't. Hannity's take was that was that in telling the Sputnik story and expressing concern about the manner in which China is now surpassing us in clean energy technologies, Obama was doing a "shout out" to his favorite communist-era regimes.

When you have to look this hard for something negative to say about someone, it's time to remember what your mother probably told you: if you can't find something nice to say, then say nothing at all.

Posted by: exco | January 27, 2011 4:29 PM | Report abuse

for Obama a "sputnik moment" means - give me lots of money to spend on my ridiculous pet projects.

Palin - "speaking truth to power" as the libtards like to say.


Posted by: pgr88
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you don't care that Sputnik didn't have anything to do with the collapse of the USSR?

or that we do need to make sure we don't fall behind in technology?

Palin has her premise wrong, and doesn't even know what "Sputnik moment" refers to (it refers to our response to Sputnik, not the Soviet's investment in it) Obama proposed more student loans, and parents turning off TVs. see Will's column on Obama's approach to education.

when facts, logic, and basic listening skills are irrelevant to your bias, you sound like a fool. Sort of like Palin herself.

Posted by: JoeT1 | January 27, 2011 4:29 PM | Report abuse

How do you respect anyone that believes a single word that Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann say?

I feel sorry for their followers, because their leaders are as stupid as their followers.

Posted by: Ve1ostrummer | January 27, 2011 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Military spending was one aspect that caused the collapse of the USSR. But the collapse in oil prices around the same time was a much bigger cause because it through the USSR's budget out of whack. Reagan does not deserve the amount of credit usually ascribed to him for causing the collapse of the USSR. All that being said, Sarah needs to repeat her American History classes (and probably take some sort of remedial geography class, as well).

Posted by: Ashevillain | January 27, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

By my estimate, there are 8,500 words in these posts which are at least 8,495 too many to waste on DAFFY DUMB S--T.

Posted by: slipuvalad | January 27, 2011 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm certainly no fan of Palin's but I tell you what I would do if they requested my 25,000 e-mails.

Simply this:

I'll release them when Obama releases all of his high school and college transcripts, him medical records, his financial record as to how he got money to go thru Harvard & Yale, and one last kicker, a long form birth certificate.

And I would allow them to jail me for contempt until he did so.

I truly believe Palin is way off the mark but at least she can prove is a native born citizen.

Posted by: dharper2 | January 27, 2011 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely! Thank you for this article! Palin followers live in the wilderness where government isn’t really needed.

Posted by: JonnyBeeGood | January 27, 2011 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Why are all teabagging women idiots? There's Palin, Bachman, the totally ditzy Mrs.Thomas ... I can't think of a single female in the Brigade who doesn't have her head firmly up her talking point. These broads don't know ANYTHING.

They know nothing about history, politics, international relations, economics ... NOTHING. They parrot talking points from a narrow list of right-wing pamphleteers, spouting on Thursday what some fool made up on Tuesday. (I guarantee you Sarah never heard the phrase "blood libel" until one of her idols used it in a tirade the day before she did.)

I suppose most of the men in their movement are nearly as dumb as they are, but for some reason the press obsessed with spreading the girls' babbling all over the news.

The press is giving womankind a bad name.

Posted by: Casey1 | January 27, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

She is a embarrassment to women and America. She has had many opportunities represent women in politics and is a complete failure. What a disgrace.

Posted by: Miles23 | January 27, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Nevermind the incoherence of her argument.... Did she really use the term "WTF"? And she aspires to be President???

Posted by: RobBob | January 27, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse

It is really a sad indication of the lack of intelligence that Ms. Palin's followers have for 1) even listening to her idiocy and 2) blindly supporting her stupidity. She has gone so far over the top that even those who gave her an 'ear audience' once, now are convinced that she should sit down and shut up for the good of the nation. She is crazy. (BTW, she ought to get her own "house in order" and leave the "public house" alone)

Posted by: fairness3 | January 27, 2011 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is too much of a maverick to let "facts" get in the way of her narrative.

Posted by: hornsfan2 | January 27, 2011 4:42 PM | Report abuse

It is really a sad indication of the lack of intelligence that Ms. Palin's followers have for 1) even listening to her idiocy and 2) blindly supporting her stupidity. She has gone so far over the top that even those who gave her an 'ear audience' once, now are convinced that she should sit down and shut up for the good of the nation. She is crazy. (BTW, she ought to get her own "house in order" and leave the "public house" alone)

Posted by: fairness3 | January 27, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Let's face it Palin is an idiot and all that support her are in the same boat a bunch of idiots! Serously, how could anyone support someone so stupid unless you're just as stupid!! I'll even go further, the Republican sent us to a war on a lie, two unfunded wars, tax breaks for the wealthy. And then lax regulation that causes the banking industry to damn near crumble! And only a bunch of idiots would consider putter these people back in control. Enough said!

Posted by: noneckmd | January 27, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Replying to:

"Perhaps you didn’t get the memo: both Ms. Palin and Mr. McCain LOST the election. Mr. McCain is still a senator, she, on the other hand, is not in an elected position - and yet – you choose to focus on her comments about the SOTU, even when she gave neither the official nor unofficial rebuttal. Why? I’m guessing that she’s the Red Herring, (or scapegoat,) you all use to divert all of the Obamabots away from the real problems; the ones that have been exacerbated by the supreme incompetency of Pres. Jr. Senator. Pretty clever actually: take a very emotional and easily influenced group of people, (as most liberals are,) and point the demented, irrational feelings that they used to have for Pres. Bush to Ms. Palin. I see by the comments they’ve left here, your plan is working. Luckily some of us are much too smart, (and awake) for that.

Posted by: sheila7 | January 27, 2011 4:20 PM |"

Sheila, I can't help but notice that you don't devote a single word of your rant to defending (or even explaining) Ms. Palin's latest burst of nonsense. Instead, you attack liberals for attacking her (?!).

You can pat yourself on the back all you want for being smart and awake, but nothing you say here calls to mind either of those adjectives. Quite the opposite, in fact...

Posted by: DCSteve1 | January 27, 2011 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I am dismayed by most of the negative comments made against Sarah Palin. Her message is significant. In short, we must manage our resources wisely. We cannot outspend the world on everything. Thus we must focus our shots. Having close exposure to Sarah Palin, Joe Biden, John McCain, etc. I realize that all of the have tremendous capabilities. If the press were to focus on Joe Biden it would find that he and I agree on many issues and we were both wrong. Joe Biden's misstatements, ramblings, off-the-cuff-foot in the mouth gaffes are much more significant. I watched the press protect Gov. Jerry Brown during his first administration and then turn on him during his second administration giving him the nickname “Gov. Moonbeam”. If any of your readers had the slightest personal knowledge I would respect their comments. Otherwise, it is just a sign of their narrow minds and their willingness to parrot the malicious views of others. While I respect the Washington Post I fear that too many of your writers are enamored with their own words and their own viewpoints. Your reading public should get much better service. Remember the legacy of Katharine Graham. Please live up to her ideals.

Posted by: LTCOLHOWARD | January 27, 2011 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I am dismayed by most of the negative comments made against Sarah Palin. Her message is significant. In short, we must manage our resources wisely. We cannot outspend the world on everything. Thus we must focus our shots. Having close exposure to Sarah Palin, Joe Biden, John McCain, etc. I realize that all of them have tremendous capabilities. If the press were to focus on Joe Biden it would find that he and I agree on many issues and we were both wrong. Joe Biden's misstatements, ramblings, off-the-cuff-foot in the mouth gaffes are much more significant. I watched the press protect Gov. Jerry Brown during his first administration and then turn on him during his second administration giving him the nickname “Gov. Moonbeam”. If any of your readers had the slightest personal knowledge I would respect their comments. Otherwise, it is just a sign of their narrow minds and their willingness to parrot the malicious views of others. While I respect the Washington Post I fear that too many of your writers are enamored with their own words and their own viewpoints. Your reading public should get much better service. Remember the legacy of Katharine Graham. Please live up to her ideals.

Posted by: LTCOLHOWARD | January 27, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm certainly no fan of Palin's but I tell you what I would do if they requested my 25,000 e-mails.

Simply this:

I'll release them when Obama releases all of his high school and college transcripts, him medical records, his financial record as to how he got money to go thru Harvard & Yale, and one last kicker, a long form birth certificate.

And I would allow them to jail me for contempt until he did so.

I truly believe Palin is way off the mark but at least she can prove is a native born citizen.

Posted by: dharper2
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he could produce a videotape of his birth with Pearl Harbor visible from the window and you wouldn't shut up. Hawaii doesn't issue long form BC's, and not even the President of the US could get one out of HI if he tried. And you don't even know what you are referring to. Some state BC's used to be longer, but unless you asked for one then, you won't have one, and you can't get one now. I have a long one from South Dakota that my parents ordered the month after I was born, but the one SD issues now, and the only one I could get if I didn't have the one in my scrapbook, looks just like Obama's and is all anyone ever born in SD could produce if they ordered one now.

the fact that people like you are attracted to Palin says a lot. about you and Palin.

Posted by: JoeT1 | January 27, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm really starting to think you folks on the Left check under your bed and in the closets at night for Sarah Palin. What is really pathetic is that she obviously has a greater hold on the Left than she does on the Right.

Posted by: carolinadreams | January 27, 2011 4:51 PM | Report abuse

It is only a matter of time before Palin leaks her own sex tape.

Posted by: mattjhenderson | January 27, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

It is only a matter of time before Palin leaks her own sex tape.

Posted by: mattjhenderson | January 27, 2011 4:54 PM | Report abuse

This is exactly why Palin quit her job as governor. Working politicians have a responsibility to those they serve. As a citizen she can say anything and do anything and not be accountable to anyone. There is no legislative body to censure her or impeach her.
She will never hold office again for this reason, and is merely posturing as a possible presidential candidate to keep her in the public eye so she can sell tv shows and books and make money.
She doesn't want to serve the public, she expects the public to serve her,

Posted by: MarilynManson | January 27, 2011 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Its about time that the Media unvail the real stupity of Palin. I was always amazed how she could use lies and fake facts about any subject and the Media of 2008 was eating up. How can anyone admire Palin, she is a quitter and a bold face lair!

Posted by: msummerford | January 27, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Her problem is she doesn't think beyond soundbites and no one questions her at Fox

Posted by: Chops2 | January 27, 2011 5:01 PM | Report abuse

She could also use a few more English lessons: "... that he would aspire Americans to celebrate." Strange phrasing. And the woman is publicly vulgar ("WTF").

Posted by: gsross | January 27, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

She could also use a few more English lessons: "... that he would aspire Americans to celebrate." Strange phrasing. And the woman is publicly vulgar ("WTF").

Posted by: gsross | January 27, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

I've joined the Palin-Free month of February a little early. I'm sure she said or did something incredibly inane once again but it felt wonderfully freeing not to read this article.

Posted by: seaduck2001 | January 27, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Did you idiots not get the memo? You fools are suppose to be ignoring she who shall not be mentioned. So speaketh the "Big Cheese".

Posted by: edfromtexas | January 27, 2011 5:06 PM | Report abuse

she had no time for real research, she was in too much of a rush to interject herself; again, into a story that was relevant to the nation but had nothing to do with her - that being the State of the Union address and the GOP response - which did not include her

she is so competitive with the president, she just has to be in the news everytime he has a public moment

as if she was relevant

she is clearly not presidential material and she needs to get her facts straight before she spouts

she must never be in charge of our nuclear arsenal - for that reason alone she can never be president

Posted by: lndlouis | January 27, 2011 5:08 PM | Report abuse

A question for the Tea Party when picking national leaders and pushing policies, if your heroes (Palin, Beck, Bachmann) can't even get history right, how can you even begin to believe that they have the future right?”

Posted by: AverageJane | January 27, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Now, see, I've come to understand that different people in this country expect different leadership styles from the politicians. This makes sense to me. Those who are favorably inclined towards the former governor pretty much like their leaders home spun, not complicated, and with a certain level of patriotism thrown in for good measure.

I get this.

However, when Ms. Palin, (or Ms. Bachmann or Mr. Santorum) starts to veer from her high level bullet points (some would suggest attack points), this is what comes out.

I don't know about many of you folks, but when I'm speaking to a group of people, or into a microphone/in front of a camera, I'm pretty much going to make sure that I know exactly what I'm talking about. It only makes sense.

Apparently, that's of very minimal importance to the group of folks who fondly call themselves "Tea Party Patriots".

New and Improved slogon for 2011 - Tea Parties are, in fact, for little girls....of all ages.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 27, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Palin seems to have absolutely missed the point about Sputnik.

A few minutes in to the State of the Union speech, the President specifically mentioned a Sputnik-like initiative to develop renewable energy and cleantech solutions, using the subsidies currently lavished on the Oil industry to fund those new initiatives. He called for eliminating tax breaks for the oil industry. He said:

"We need to get behind this innovation. And to help pay for it, I’m asking Congress to eliminate the billions in taxpayer dollars we currently give to oil companies. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but they’re doing just fine on their own. So instead of subsidizing yesterday’s energy, let’s invest in tomorrow’s,”

It is amazing how a vision about a cleaner less oil addicted future brings out so much doom and gloom from some people.

Oil is our past, renewable energy is our future. It's time to support that future and assume a leadership role in bring cleaner greener energy and technology solutions to the world.

I posted a chart and analysis showing just how much money is spent on oil subsidies versus renewable energy. Check it out at:

http://8020vision.com/2011/01/25/which-energy-industries-would-you-subsidize/

I also include a poll on what your thoughts are on what should be subsidized and what not. I hope you will cast a vote and share your opinion.

Jay Kimball
8020 Vision

Posted by: jaykimball | January 27, 2011 5:14 PM | Report abuse

$arah Paylin $aid $something $elf-$$erving?

Gosh!

Pardon me. I'm going out for a nice, long yawn.

Posted by: mmmapache | January 27, 2011 5:15 PM | Report abuse

What else can anyone say ...... The woman is an idiot ... a serious blemish on our political scene.
I wonder if she really takes herself seriously ... or is she just some
weird "comedy act" ? ?
Problem is ... I think she takes herself seriously ... and that, folks,
is a travesty ! ! ! !

Posted by: loretoguy | January 27, 2011 5:16 PM | Report abuse

What else can anyone say ...... The woman is an idiot ... a serious blemish on our political scene.
I wonder if she really takes herself seriously ... or is she just some
weird "comedy act" ? ?
Problem is ... I think she takes herself seriously ... and that, folks,
is a travesty ! ! ! !

Posted by: loretoguy | January 27, 2011 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Ignorant and the perfect symbol for what passes for todays conservatives.

Posted by: kchses1 | January 27, 2011 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm really starting to think you folks on the Left check under your bed and in the closets at night for Sarah Palin. What is really pathetic is that she obviously has a greater hold on the Left than she does on the Right.

Posted by: carolinadreams
________________
one can hope, but on the other hand, one can fear.

Posted by: JoeT1 | January 27, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse

"Even worse, it seems that Palin planned her rhetorical disaster."

Very perceptive. The core Plain fans respond to her nonsense like Pavlov's dogs to the bell. The more nonsensical, the better. Stupidity is where they live. Ignorance is who they are. And they know that Sarah is right there with them.

Posted by: karlmarx2 | January 27, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Just remember! We need to talk about her now, because February will be the Palin-Free Month. I can't wait!

Posted by: cococo | January 27, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Why doi we have to keep readin gabout this idiot. No. 1,she wasn't born when Sputnik was launched. I would bet she hasn't a clue as to what it was, really, or that the USSR sent the first man into space, who did several orbits. Our first two manned launches lasted all of 20 minutes. That is what made Kennedy come out with his "we choose to go to the moon" speech. As he said, not because it was hard, but because it gave us a goal to look forward to reaching, not just standing around and hoping that someday, we'd just get there. palin hasn't a clue and I wish the media would stop treating her as if she does. This only proves the unintellignce of the conservative movement. Ever wonder why colleges grant degrees in Liberal Arts? Because there is no such thing as conservative arts. All you have to do there is object to anything someone intelligent says. Or make up your own history. Conservatives are real good at that.

Posted by: mikel7 | January 27, 2011 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Being nutty qualifies her to be president. Enough nutty Americans supported the election of nutty Dubya Bush and he did a nutty thing: he invaded Iraq because he wanted to teach Saddam hussein a lesson.

When the nuts got tired of the war they wanted to stop playing in Iraq.

Yes, I think that Sarah Palin will suit many Americans for at least two hours before they get bored and want a new president.

Posted by: robertjames1 | January 27, 2011 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Why doi we have to keep readin gabout this idiot. No. 1,she wasn't born when Sputnik was launched. I would bet she hasn't a clue as to what it was, really, or that the USSR sent the first man into space, who did several orbits. Our first two manned launches lasted all of 20 minutes. That is what made Kennedy come out with his "we choose to go to the moon" speech. As he said, not because it was hard, but because it gave us a goal to look forward to reaching, not just standing around and hoping that someday, we'd just get there. palin hasn't a clue and I wish the media would stop treating her as if she does. This only proves the unintellignce of the conservative movement. Ever wonder why colleges grant degrees in Liberal Arts? Because there is no such thing as conservative arts. All you have to do there is object to anything someone intelligent says. Or make up your own history. Conservatives are real good at that.

Posted by: mikel7 | January 27, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Oops, that's "Palin" not "Plain."

Curious, why do both Palin and Obama trigger the spell-checker?

Posted by: karlmarx2 | January 27, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Why are you worrying about what Sarah Palin says, an unelected citizen. You should be concerned about what the President says and does! He talked about the need to rebuild our crumbling roads and bridges -- which is one of the primary reasons we spent a trillion dollars in the stimulus bill two years ago - to rebuild our crumbling roads and bridges. How did that work out? Obviously it didn't work out. Obama says he wants to fix Social Security without decreasing benefits. The system is losing money daily. How does he do that except take more money out of our pockets!

Posted by: eddog26105 | January 27, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

So this is the new age of "civil" discussion. This article contains the "civil" words: "weird", "rant", "lazily", "incoherent", "rhetorical disaster", "pathetic" and "dreck". The "civil" nature of these words is only surpassed by those found in some of the submitted comments.

Posted by: GREENCROFT | January 27, 2011 5:33 PM | Report abuse

sheila7, you call Democrats emotional and easily influenced? Sorry, girl, wrong party. Never seen a bunch of lockstep followers than republicans. You mean every republican voted against the stimulus or healthcare because they all totally believed they were wrong? But the few Dems who voted with them must be emotional and easily infuenced, right? You are so lame. Every republican has spouted the exact same arguments on every talk show for the last two years. Before that, actually. I guess they really do want to emulate Reagan, because he needed a script or he'd wander off into Hollywood movieland and claimn it was fact. Conservatices: one cries Obama's not an American and they all do. One cries that he's a nazi, communist, socialist Kenyan and they all do. Lemmings, sheila, lemmings. Get used to it.

Posted by: mikel7 | January 27, 2011 5:34 PM | Report abuse

There is no end to her stupidity and fricking ignorance.
She has earned a place in the Stupid Hall of Fame, and a spot in False News,, next to the Three Stooges (also known as Murdoch's Water Boys).

Posted by: analyst72 | January 27, 2011 5:35 PM | Report abuse

There is no end to her stupidity and fricking ignorance.
She has earned a place in the Stupid Hall of Fame, and a spot in False News,, next to the Three Stooges (also known as Murdoch's Water Boys).

Posted by: analyst72 | January 27, 2011 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for sharing the link.

Palin speech was actually about Obama's disconnect on spending and debt.

And indeed why does Obama keep focusing on Sputnik ? a half-century old technological achievement made by the socialist Soviet empire that indeed collapsed some 20+ years ago ?

My first thought was whats a Sputnik ? Is that the name of Obama's dog ?

Posted by: pvilso24 | January 27, 2011 5:37 PM | Report abuse


Sarah Palin is a racist, an anti-Asian racist ! President Barack Obama is the best American President we Asian have ever had !

President Obama has been sending US dollars and exporting US jobs to Asia as he continues to print more money and raise more taxes. US companies and investors are rushing out of America into Asia and stimulate our economies so as to get higher returns (higher interest rate), durable returns (stronger Asian currencies compared to the ever depreciating worthless US dollar) and lower taxes on their profit. Our stock markets, property markets, job markets, healthcare markets are booming endlessly and will continue to roar fearlessly as President Obama continues to print more money, raise more taxes and then stimulate more Asian economies.

We Asians are forever indebted to President Obama as he manages to persuade the American taxpyayers to make great sacrifices by giving up their jobs to remain unemployed, burdening their children with debt mountains and downgrading their living standard as US dollar plunges so that we Asians can continue to enjoy more good years. President Obama even tries to convince the Americans to abdicate their super-power status so that we can take over and dominate the world. Now with WikiLeaks fiasco, Obama's America is finished.

For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of YOUR America and YOUR American President because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback. Tell President Obama to keep up the good work. I can see more and more American businesses lining up to hire Asian talents from my house !

Posted by: Obama-kowtow-to-Asia | January 27, 2011 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin what a breath of fresh air in a world of violent far left nut jobs. God bless America and Sarah.

Posted by: annieandpauldonovan | January 27, 2011 5:39 PM | Report abuse

When she (Sarah) is elected for office of president, we will rejoice in freedom for all people and have confidence again in our government. God bless America the land of the free.Because of the brave, and the Tea Party. :) P.S. Vote/take out the trash in 2012.

Posted by: annieandpauldonovan | January 27, 2011 5:44 PM | Report abuse

It just came to me why I do not like SP- Other than she made me vote democrate in the last election! The reason she talks and rants so fast is because she isn't smart enough to slow down and think.

Posted by: Faith9 | January 27, 2011 5:47 PM | Report abuse

She proves herself to be an ignorant, self-obsessed idiot on a weekly basis, and the only people who like her are... just like her.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | January 27, 2011 5:47 PM | Report abuse

to all the "Palin-bashers" of "PP",

i'm sitting here laughing AT the arrogant ignorance, obvious STUPIDITY, MEAN-spiritedness & "lack of gray matter between the ears", which is clearly exhibited by most of you "Palin-HATERS". ===> by a simple substitution of "the N word" for her name, your posts would be a PERFECT example of the STUPID/RACIST/FALSE ranting of the worst of Klansmen.
face it HATERS, you "know NOT & know NOT that you know NOT". in fact, most of you are so clue-LESS that you are more to be PITIED than dispised.

moreover, the majority of you Palin-HATERS seem oblivious to THE TRUTH. = Sarah Palin is NOT running for POTUS in 2012 or any other year as the candidate of the TEA PARTY and/or the GOP.
(she likely WILL run for & win the next available Senate seat from AK by a landslide of massive porportions. she will be soundly backed/funded by the Tea Party for THAT office or, should she choose to do so, for the HoR.)

laughing AT you DIMocRAT extremists, "progressives", leftists, statists, fascists, Palin-HATERS, nitwits & the brain-DEAD fools, who believe anything that the DIMocRAT "leadership" spews out onto the printed page and/or airwaves.

a closing NOTE: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE expend vast amounts of time, money & needless effort shrieking against, muttering about, whining about, whimpering to each other, cursing & generally making jackasses of yourselves, so that whomever we TEA PARTIERS actually nominate for POTUS in 2012 wins at a walk.
also, be sure to continue to split the DIMocRATS Party permanently, while you're "trashing" Sarah Palin, as you are sending moderate/conservative Democrats & independents into the ranks of the TEA PARTY by the thousands. ====> we TEA PARTIERS thank each of you DUNCES for your efforts & we are happily putting those former Democrats & independents to work to defeat BHO & every DIMocRAT "leader" from the local courthouse to the halls of Congress in 2012 & in the elections to follow.

just my opinion.

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | January 27, 2011 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Gee, I just had a WTF moment about Palin's drivel. For all the money this woman makes, can't she afford a better staff writer or is she just such a narcissist that she believes herself.

Posted by: chucko2 | January 27, 2011 5:48 PM | Report abuse

She will be Your president.

Posted by: Ivfab | January 27, 2011 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Just about 99% of the population "gets it" yet, once again, Sarah doesn't and it's always news. Not to mention good for a laugh or two.

Posted by: chi-town | January 27, 2011 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I found the new meaning of WTF. It referes to a president that gets elected by a perfect storm of uneducated people,and educated people that want to control a group of people by giving them free stuff and therefore they the (monie receivers), will keep (voting) for these people in Washington so as to be slaves to the master puppeteer.So WTF MEANS (Willing To Fail) for a small meal ticket so as to let there lives be nothing at all, for they will be a (nothing person) but a single vote for the one's feeding them.

Posted by: annieandpauldonovan | January 27, 2011 5:55 PM | Report abuse

This dingbat just said this week that the Soviets "won the space race"! Who knew? LOL!

She's the Queen of Backwater Morons everywhere. She should get her own little trailer... I mean palace, somewhere in texas where she can reign over the right wing morons.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | January 27, 2011 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Oh, boo hoo, I'm so terribly dismayed people would think she's a bimbo because she doesn't know anything about US history including what a sputnik is. How terrible of you bed-wetting, communist, marxist, socialist, gay, mexican, muslim liberals making fun of her this way even implying that the F in WTF is the same word our Lord Cheney used to reply to a Senator.

Posted by: areyousaying | January 27, 2011 6:03 PM | Report abuse

The entire conservative membership doesn't get the Sputnik lesson and the fall of the USSR. Sputnik added to the military rivalry between the USSR and the USA. Reagan provoking the USSR into spending more than they could afford in the arms race was certainly instrumental in the disolution of the soviet state. The problem is that Conservatives, in trying to "concerve" Reagan's legacy, have insisted on maintaining and even increasing a military budget which had as a purpose to BANKRUPT a nation. Is the USA going to suffer the same fate? Military spending needs to be reevaluated and cut where possible.

Posted by: dorsyn | January 27, 2011 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Why anyone covers this blithering idiot is a mystery.

Forget her. Ignore her. She couldn't beat a child molestor for garbage collector.

Posted by: 2229 | January 27, 2011 6:06 PM | Report abuse

She is a total moron and everytime she opens her mouth she proves it. It is obvious that the apple does not fall far from the tree because her daughters appear to be as big of an airhead as she is.

Posted by: nomoredebt | January 27, 2011 6:08 PM | Report abuse

TN46: "by a simple substitution of "the N word" for her name, your posts would be a PERFECT example of the STUPID/RACIST/FALSE ranting of the worst of Klansmen."

The only bigot here, Ace, is you, the Confederate redneck of the moment.

Only a screaming racist would even bring up such a stupid argument.

Palin is an uneducated hick. No one but the non-forking family tree type support her. She's a national joke. She couldn't win an interview with a fifth grader, she's so scared of the press accurately reporting how little she knows.

"I can see Russia from my backyard!"

Sure, Sarah. And I see little red gnomes.

Posted by: 2229 | January 27, 2011 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Spudnuts are pretty good donuts. I make sure to have a few each Christmas when I visit the Tri-Cities in WA.

Posted by: Peast | January 27, 2011 6:15 PM | Report abuse

laughing AT you DIMocRAT extremists, "progressives", leftists, statists, fascists, Palin-HATERS, nitwits & the brain-DEAD fools, who believe anything that the DIMocRAT "leadership" spews out onto the printed page and/or airwaves.

AWK!

PALIN WANT A CRACKER?

AWK!

Posted by: areyousaying | January 27, 2011 6:15 PM | Report abuse

rparker: "The scary thing is that Sarah Palin is going to be our next President. Obama has lost support from the folks that elected him and no one on the Right can challenge Sarah."

You need to catch up in the news. A recent poll, taken when Obama was at his worst in the polls, shows the nearest Republican, Romney, would lose by 7 points.

Palin, in the same poll, would've lost by 22 points.

The Tea Liars can pretend all they want that this woman is electable. I beg them to nominate her, and Bachman as VP.

It'll make Goldwater look like he lost by 20 votes in comparison.

Posted by: 2229 | January 27, 2011 6:19 PM | Report abuse

@Sheila7: ARE you awake? Because, contrary to your self-evaulation, you aint smart!

Posted by: dirktazer | January 27, 2011 6:23 PM | Report abuse

pvilso: "My first thought was whats a Sputnik ? Is that the name of Obama's dog ?"

You're bragging about your own ignorance? Interesting.

Our 1957 Sputnik moment inspired the nation to go heavily technical and to beat the Soviets to the moon.

Get it, Lunkhead? It inspired the nation, as should this time of corporate criminals and war criminals like Bush and Cheney.

We need to be inspired, 'cause it looks right now like corporations run the country, and we the weenies absolutely support it.

That ain't the Constitution.

Maybe if your Mom would've sent you to school you could've read all about Sputnik in your third grade history book.

Posted by: 2229 | January 27, 2011 6:25 PM | Report abuse

What's really scary is that about 28% of Americans think Palin and Bachmann are presidential material! The fact that these same people think Obama is an idiot obviously means they understand winks and you betcha's with the occasional reference to guns and pit bulls, but not the simple English the rest of us speak and their knowledge of history is confined to that taught at GBU (Glenn Beck University).

Posted by: fingersfly | January 27, 2011 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Sorry I did not read all the comments that preceed this one, but if I am the only one asking this, that is disappointing as much as what I am noting: who is this woman, on TV, saying "WTF" and has questionable presidential aspirations, if not at least be a queen maker with whomever she will bankroll financially if not with her name alone behind the candidate!? I am sorry, but I have no interest to hear leaders and public figures use the "F" word publically, even if it is per abbreviation per internet dialect.

How UNprofessional, if not Unpresidential. The Sputnik reference aside, who cares what Obama said Tuesday night. How interesting that on the "ED Show" last night, a liberal pundit mind you, noted that Obama did not address in any form or manner the loss of jobs overseas and there seems to be no concern for this per his latest rhetoric outside the SOTU address as well. Maybe if Palin was paying attention, if not having attentive advisors assisting her, she could have commented on this and possibly scored some points with people.

But, like any other narcissist, she is only speaking out loud for anyone to hear her, outside herself as well. Hey Sarah, WTF are you thinking!?

Posted by: Joelhassfam4 | January 27, 2011 6:38 PM | Report abuse

I saw this interview with Greta and so wanted to know what Greta was thinking as Sarah explained to us all about Sputnik. Sarah Palin is just plain dumb.

Posted by: mjh1 | January 27, 2011 6:40 PM | Report abuse

sarah palin, Monica Lewisnky, Paris Hilton, Tonya Harding, Lorena Bobbitt....all equal. They are all "C" list celebrity wannabe's whose moment came and went. sarah palin's best shot for the future is to become a porn actor, or at least make some money showing her alaska beaver in Penthouse magazine.

Posted by: fmamstyle | January 27, 2011 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Caribou Barbie knows what brought down the Soviets because she saw it happen herownself from her back porch. Well, with binoculars.

Posted by: HardyW | January 27, 2011 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Oh please, please, please Sarah Don't run for President, don't help split the GOP and pleassssse don't shut the flip up; we need your Grizzly Girl wisdom.

Posted by: birddog2012 | January 27, 2011 6:48 PM | Report abuse

carolinadreams, nope. We look under our beds for you all who think she's the next best thing since sliced bread. You scare the hell out of the civilized world.

Posted by: fmamstyle | January 27, 2011 6:50 PM | Report abuse

She's following the G.W. Bush model to the presidency: do a lot of war-mongering and sound like an incoherent nincompoop.

Posted by: sthomas1957 | January 27, 2011 6:50 PM | Report abuse

I am no palin fan.

But she misconstrued NOTHING.

She had complete mastery of the topic.

Just political bias from a former great news organization.

Posted by: docwhocuts | January 27, 2011 6:52 PM | Report abuse

carolinadreams, nope. We look under our beds for you all who think she's the next best thing since sliced bread. You scare the hell out of the civilized world.

Posted by: fmamstyle | January 27, 2011 6:53 PM | Report abuse

People on this thread are happy today. A few day's pent-up frustration at not having the opportunity to take a shot at Sarah needs a valve, apparently.

Posted by: dogwolf | January 27, 2011 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Heck, I thought this was going to be a Palin free month. Can someone give this village idiot a rest?

Posted by: sr31 | January 27, 2011 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Pssst, Stephen...

You missed this one:
"...that he would aspire Americans to celebrate..."

Aspire?

Posted by: pasc1 | January 27, 2011 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Show your children this note from Sarah as well as many others. Explain to them this is what happens when you do not take school seriously.

Tell them that once they are in college to take learning seriously and not move from school to school, as Sarah did for whatever reason, and then tout your degree as though it somehow determines how much respect people should pay your intelligence.

Ask your children if they respect Sarah's intelligence and then explain that what you learn, not what your degree is, will determine how other people view, and respect, your intelligence.

Sarah has so much to offer America and especially its children by acting as an example of a failure, a failure to learn anything of value except how to hit a fish on the head with a club, and to hide anything that may be embarrassing.

Posted by: Fate1 | January 27, 2011 7:09 PM | Report abuse

"Heck, I thought this was going to be a Palin free month. Can someone give this village idiot a rest?"
Posted by: sr31

That's next month, February, the shortest month of the year.

But what I don't understand is where does she get off writing WTF? What sort of respect is this? She shows she has no respect OR knowledge of the US government and its offices, and has contempt for the president of the USA. She owes America an apology, one of many she has not given this great country that she continually insults.

Posted by: Fate1 | January 27, 2011 7:16 PM | Report abuse

So obsessed with Sarah Palin!! Doesn't that say more about the author than it does her? How pathetic that these people can't go 5 minutes without obsessing over what Sarah palin says and does.

I thought the WP editorial pages was going not mention Sarah Palin for a month. Guess that didn't last long did it?

Posted by: EDFromFC | January 27, 2011 7:20 PM | Report abuse

That bluffing woman, again, again, and again! She doesn't know what she says, or criticizes, or "judges": she just opens her big mouth, and, using her ugly shrill voice, hopes that will grab the media's attention, without any concern to facts and logic. I'd urge her to do what's best for her after that VP-candidate failure: make money by exploiting her (fading) good looks, cozying up to Murdoch's (that Aussie's) filthy money-making empire, before it's too late. And, best of all, ZIP UP HER MOUTH !

Posted by: cungtien | January 27, 2011 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Americans are not foolish enough to elect this imbecile to the Presidency...are we? I mean really, what does it say about Alaska that they even voted her in for governor. This woman is clueless and knows less about foreign affairs than the average high school dropout. She wanted to attack Obama just for the sake of attacking him, not because he said anything wrong, and made herself look like the idiot she is. Let me say this to our republican/conservative friends, you have so many other people of substance, accomplishments, and higher intelligence than Sarah Palin who could give Obama a serious challenge. It's embarrassing that your party has her as the "hot" item. Palin makes Bush look like an intellectual giant -- and that's saying something.

Posted by: jfoster13 | January 27, 2011 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Regarding her inane analysis of the role of Sputnik in the eventual demise of the Soviet government, Palin is trying to take a Six Degrees of Separation approach to explaining causal relationships in major historical events.
This is what happens when you have a simplistic, comic book-level understanding of world history.

Posted by: labman57 | January 27, 2011 7:32 PM | Report abuse

I wish Stromberg would have taken his speculation just a bit further. Let's see, a sclerotic empire run by an out-of-touch oligarchy which is doomed by excessive military spending to eventual financial collapse.

No similarity whatsoever to the US.

Posted by: scientist1 | January 27, 2011 7:37 PM | Report abuse

More evidence that Sarah Palin is an absolute idiot!

Posted by: theskydiver | January 27, 2011 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I am dismayed by most of the negative comments made against Sarah Palin. Her message is significant. In short, we must manage our resources wisely. We cannot outspend the world on everything. Thus we must focus our shots. Having close exposure to Sarah Palin, Joe Biden, John McCain, etc. I realize that all of the have tremendous capabilities. If the press were to focus on Joe Biden it would find that he and I agree on many issues and we were both wrong. Joe Biden's misstatements, ramblings, off-the-cuff-foot in the mouth gaffes are much more significant. I watched the press protect Gov. Jerry Brown during his first administration and then turn on him during his second administration giving him the nickname “Gov. Moonbeam”. If any of your readers had the slightest personal knowledge I would respect their comments. Otherwise, it is just a sign of their narrow minds and their willingness to parrot the malicious views of others. While I respect the Washington Post I fear that too many of your writers are enamored with their own words and their own viewpoints. Your reading public should get much better service. Remember the legacy of Katharine Graham. Please live up to her ideals.

Posted by: LTCOLHOWARD | January 27, 2011 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a sad soul, she is incapable of making a well informed and educated comment about any topic.

Let's hope she continues to fade away, each time she opens her mouth.

Posted by: BlufftonMan | January 27, 2011 7:46 PM | Report abuse

We Asians are overwhelmingly inspired by President Obama's WTF speech.

Under Obama regime, America has become so impoverished, so indebted, so demoralized, so polarized, so dishonored (by WikiLeaks), yet he still want to spend money to have his Sputnik moment....ha,ha,ha,ha,ha.

The only way he can have his Sputnik moment is to borrow more money from us, more indebted to us and continue to kowtow to us.

This is our Sputnik moment. With WTF as President, we will bury the evil American empire with our strong currencies, strong economies.

The Dark Age of American Barbarism is over. The Golden Era of Asian Renaissance has arrived. Soon all American will kowtow to us just as their President WTF....ha,ha,ha,ha,ha......

Posted by: Obama-kowtow-to-Asia | January 27, 2011 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Hey, at night I can see Russian satellites from my house in Wasilla. So see, I know everything I need to know, both about Russia and about science. WTF!

Posted by: rickedelson | January 27, 2011 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Oh Sarah Sarah Sarah, how did you not see this coming with all your hate filled rants and attacks, you are so over, so yesterday, toast. No one likes a whiner, a witch, a bitter, angry, venomous, dim witted, inaccurate, shrill, big mouth such as yourself. Do you know why everyone loves Hillary Clinton? first of all she is smart, alot smarter than you will ever be, she is very successful and she isn't a quitter either. She is level headed, even toned, pleasant and she has a very impressive political resume and career. YOU have on the other hand, a failed Governorship that you quit mid stream and ummmm what else.. let me think.. nothing really, oh wait, Tina Fey exploited you pretty good, that was pretty funny, oh and you ride around in a bus collecting money from people who are apparently dumber than you are, sad for them. As a progressive Democrat I am comforted with the thought that no one will ever take you seriously ever again, except maybe K-Todd since he won't want to lose his credit card privileges.

Posted by: Hillary08 | January 27, 2011 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin would not knowingly say "What the f..." or even use the phrase's abbreviation. In other words, she was not demonstrating impoliteness, merely presenting the world with a further example of her abysmal ignorance.

Posted by: johnnormansp | January 27, 2011 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Palin would not knowingly say "What the f..." or even use the phrase's abbreviation. In other words, she was not demonstrating impoliteness, merely presenting the world with a further example of her abysmal ignorance.

Posted by: johnnormansp | January 27, 2011 8:08 PM | Report abuse

pgr88 said: Palin - "speaking truth to power" as the libtards like to say.

Whatever, dude. And black is white, up is down. Palin was speaking the exact opposite of truth. That's the entire point of this article!

What I can't believe is that Palin was using a teleprompter and she still came off like a complete moron.

Posted by: shstl | January 27, 2011 8:19 PM | Report abuse

pgr88 said: Palin - "speaking truth to power" as the libtards like to say.

Whatever, dude. And black is white, up is down. Palin was speaking the exact opposite of truth. That's the entire point of this article!

What I can't believe is that Palin was using a teleprompter and she still came off like a complete moron.

Posted by: shstl | January 27, 2011 8:26 PM | Report abuse

American people, listen up !!!

If you want to have your Sputnik moment, come to Asia, kowtow to us and kiss our butts. Perhaps, then we can mercifully give you some of our leftover spare change with our formidable currencies to replace your ever depreciating worthless tiny US dollars craps.

Sputnik moment ??? WTF ! KMB (Kiss My Butts) !!! ha,ha,ha,ha,ha.....

Posted by: Obama-kowtow-to-Asia | January 27, 2011 8:38 PM | Report abuse

That Palin doesn't get the "Sputnik" reference is abundantly clear. That Obama intended it to encourage us to respond to our current threats as vigorously as we responded to the Soviet threat as manifested by Sputnik in 1957 is equally clear. Sorry, pvislo24, docwhocuts, other Palin apologists, but you're grasping at straws as you defend her remarks.

So you don't like the solutions Obama proposed as our response to OUR "Sputnik moment"?? Fine. Criticize the proposals. You may even insist that he was wrong in making the "Sputnik" reference on its own merits because, perhaps, you think it's a poor analogy and not relevant now. Most of us will simply disagree at that point and hope that you might get a clue. But getting bent out of shape because it referenced those (deservedly) despised Soviets is to be spiteful ("How dare he make a good point? Let's find some nit to pick!") or just plain nutty (rather like disliking a brand of vodka simply because it's Russian). Most of us don't regard spitefulness or nuttiness as virtues.

I'd bet that if Obama said he admired the music of Shostakovich or Prokofiev, Palin would be incensed at the Soviet reference. Of course, maybe not--she might not get that reference, either. And maybe that's the root problem: Palin may be saying that because SHE doesn't get the reference, it's a WTF moment. Now THAT may come back to haunt her.

Posted by: post_reader_in_wv | January 27, 2011 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Just two points of correct usage: 1)We "aspire" to something; we don't aspire someone to something. And 2) I think she confused "inevitable" with "eventual" when she said "it resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union."

Posted by: shieldsjk | January 27, 2011 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Hi @shieldsjk -

I think Palin meant exactly what she said, and that scares me. Normally one would use the word "inspire" in the first case. However, I think she is thinking of "aspirations" in the sense parents might have aspirations for their children. One with aspirations becomes the one who "inspires" another - a fairly complete substitution of one person's will for another's.

As for your 2nd point, the world view she subscribes to could very well hold the collapse of the Soviet Union to be inevitable. It is a world view that both accepts prophecy and believes capitalism to be "natural" and part of God's plan. It is a form of American exceptionalism taken to an extreme, in which we (and she) are divinely appointed and no opposition can succeed. I used to laugh at her, but I've come to think of her as a megalomaniac, pure and simple.

Posted by: zyanna | January 27, 2011 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Palin shoots herself in the mouth again. "Lock and Load".

Posted by: dmscontractor | January 27, 2011 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Bottomline, you just didn't like Sarah's message. You little man, insignificant person, purveyor of nothing and by the way your short. Sarah's comments precisely underscore Obama's SOTU address. He said nothing, gave us nothing new and relied on the old, "tried and true" Dem playbook. More for education, investment, enlightenment, hailed the military, the lost, the nearly lost and the almost lost. He almost left out no one. He Sputnik'ed us into believing his Win the Future idea was worth our unsustainable deficit with a 5 year freeze on, what amounts to a six pack of diet cokes. Sarah nailed it, Obama fizzled......

Posted by: rscott1293 | January 27, 2011 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Palin just couldn't stand being out-dummied by Bachmann who claimed our founding fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery. Palin could not let that history lesson go by without going one better. Can Angel be far behind with her contribution to rewriting history? I'm somewhat encouraged that the media is starting to call these stupid women out.

Posted by: jpawlik1 | January 27, 2011 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Hahahaha....sarah....you're a peach...thanks u sweetheart for giving me and thousands of my countrymen/countrywomen our very own WTF moment..We can always count on you for that...

Posted by: Homtanks | January 27, 2011 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Hahahaha....sarah....you're a peach...thanks u sweetheart for giving me and thousands of my countrymen/countrywomen our very own WTF moment..We can always count on you for that...

Posted by: Homtanks | January 27, 2011 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Hahahaha....sarah....you're a peach...thanks u sweetheart for giving me and thousands of my countrymen/countrywomen our very own WTF moment..We can always count on you for that...

Posted by: Homtanks | January 27, 2011 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Reagan didn't outspend the Soviets, he out-borrowed them. He was a borrow-and-spend big government conservative, like most of his ilk -- but at least he was foursquare against torture.

Posted by: skinnydog | January 28, 2011 12:17 AM | Report abuse

It is an absolute insult to all Americans with IQ's above 40 that the media continues to put this imbecile and fraud out front and center , force her upon us as if we are to take her seriously . As for her and the " WTF moments " , I highly doubt that she even knows what she was saying and that she was making a royal ass out of herself once again . The big wigs within the GOP are out to sabotage and neutralize her , looks like the mission has begun . The thrilla from Wasila needs to go home ... and stay there . One can only hope .

Posted by: Koom | January 28, 2011 12:24 AM | Report abuse

I was a boy when SPUTNIK launched from Russia (October 1957). My dad drove a STUDEBAKER and was a logger. The national mood back then is dramatized in OCTOBER SKIES (a movie about young rocket experimenters in West Virginia). SPUTNIK was a "wake up call" for americans to compete in the space race. Perhaps Palin doesn't understand any of this stuff.

One of my heroes is Donna Shirley, a NASA/JPL engineer who wrote "Managing Martians". Her book was about the successful mission to send a robot vehicle to Mars.

This is the kind of engineering and science that america excels in. And this is the kind of call to action that Obama is invoking. When Palin mocks Obama's call to action with a silly comparison to a bakery (SPUDNIK), she does not persuade anyone to her point of view.

Posted by: rmorris391 | January 28, 2011 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Is Sarah Palin suggesting that americans need to "stay home and bake cookies"? Is she running for the PTA now? Her feminism is showing again...

Posted by: rmorris391 | January 28, 2011 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is so stunningly ignorant, just so incredibly ill informed and breathtakingly vapid that all you can do is shake your head in amazement. For her to say WTF is just so deeply and wonderfully ironic! Does she ever take her foot out of her mouth or is it a permanent feature of her anatomy? What is scary though is thinking about how moronic some people must be to actually think of her as a leader of anything other than maybe a village idiots convention. It is truly funny though how serious she takes herself as she utters this nonsense. For comedians she is simply priceless!

Posted by: USblues2 | January 28, 2011 1:22 AM | Report abuse

I am no palin fan.

But she misconstrued NOTHING.

She had complete mastery of the topic.

Just political bias from a former great news organization.

Posted by: docwhocuts | January 27, 2011 6:52 PM | Report abuse
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You may not be a Palin fan, but you're absolutely one of the most reliable posters here at the WaPo with a completely whacked t bagger POV. It should surprise nobody that you think she had a mastery of the topic. Stupid is as stupid does.

Posted by: ChuckinMtP | January 28, 2011 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Bottomline, you just didn't like Sarah's message. You little man, insignificant person, purveyor of nothing and by the way your short. Sarah's comments precisely underscore Obama's SOTU address. He said nothing, gave us nothing new and relied on the old, "tried and true" Dem playbook. More for education, investment, enlightenment, hailed the military, the lost, the nearly lost and the almost lost. He almost left out no one. He Sputnik'ed us into believing his Win the Future idea was worth our unsustainable deficit with a 5 year freeze on, what amounts to a six pack of diet cokes. Sarah nailed it, Obama fizzled......

Posted by: rscott1293 | January 27, 2011 10:41 PM | Report abuse
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Well, she certainly made Obama's case for more money for education, didn't she?

Nice Monty Python parody, btw.

Posted by: ChuckinMtP | January 28, 2011 7:14 AM | Report abuse

Palin has gotten by on her looks and short skirts for years and seems to have fooled a lot of people. But she looks absolutely terrible in recent pictures. If she does not have that she has nothing because her head definitely appears to be hollow. She has an audience that will never buy it because they are not informed either - but everyone else will wonder what they were thinking and move on.

Posted by: withersb | January 28, 2011 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Palin has gotten by on her looks and short skirts for years and seems to have fooled a lot of people. But she looks absolutely terrible in recent pictures. If she does not have that she has nothing because her head definitely appears to be hollow. She has an audience that will never buy it because they are not informed either - but everyone else will wonder what they were thinking and move on.

Posted by: withersb | January 28, 2011 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Am I the only living human being who is aware of the single most significant fact about Sarah Palin, as she increasingly reveals the total ignorance and stupidity at the core of her being? Here is the fact:

The Republican Party in 2008 nominated Sarah Palin to be its vice presidential candidate. Meaning, the Republican Party collectively decided that, as of the moment of her nomination, she was fully qualified to be President of the United States. The Republican Party was perfectly content with having Sarah Palin one heart beat away from being President of the United States. All the leaders of the Republican Party--John McCain, obviously; but also George Bush--both of them; John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, Bobby Jindal, Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, and every other Republican governor, Senator, and Representative--every single one of them is on the record stating that Sarah Palin represents the Republican mainstream and is fully qualified to be President.

I point out this simple, historical fact of these endorsements because a lot of nonsense is being written and spoken alleging that Republican leaders are keeping their distance from Palin and trying to depict her as somehow separate from the Republican mainstream. This stand, obviously, would be a logical impossibility, since they have already established beyond the shadow of a doubt that they not only embrace her, but were confident two years ago that she was fully qualified to be president.

The only logical alternatives would be that 1) Two years ago, they were blind and ignorant about Sarah Palin’s qualifications and beliefs, meaning, we could have no confidence in any of their present views about anything, or 2) they lied.

Posted by: tbarksdl | January 28, 2011 7:48 AM | Report abuse

So, WHY is Obumbler saying that this is our Sputnik moment? There is ZERO comparison then to now.

Posted by: illogicbuster | January 28, 2011 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Sarah is that gift that keeps on giving... Face it, her followers are "True Beliveres" (Eric Hoffer) who will believe every and anything she says but...

...every time she opens her mouth she loses credibility with everyone else and thus marginalizes her own self...

But with that said, she certainly is an entertaining woman, isn't she???

Bob

Posted by: bobnpvine | January 28, 2011 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin being "incoherent" is pretty much yesterday's news. She's stunningly stupid.

Posted by: CardFan | January 28, 2011 9:24 AM | Report abuse

OK, liberal does not HAVE to mean ignorant. To find out the real history you may have to go deeper than wikipedia, try the book, "From the Shadows" by Robert Gates...yep, THAT Robert Gates. The Secretary of Defense on page 173 defeats your silly uninformed comments about the SU's economic problems by saying they knew of them in the 50's! Check your own archives for what Newsweek (the Post used to own it, remember?) said on the 50th anniversary of Sputnik. Obama's solution to every problem is to throw more money and more government at it. Well, believe it or not, some of us believe the Constitution and it's premise of limited government. And while I'm at it, why has no major (ie liberallly slanted) newspaper demanded Obama's birth records? IF it's legitimate why seal them? What is there to hide and why are America's media afraid to push the question??

Posted by: Deb1inFla | January 28, 2011 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Good article here, and important to keep the inanity of the comments of She-who-must-not-be-named clearly identified. (I am working on the pledge to not say a certain name for one month, in the spirit of Mr. Milbank's pledge.")

I do hope Ms. Bachmann gets the same relentless pointing to her equally stupid spew. Her use of statistics in that rebuttal to the Presidents address is utter distortion and I know quite a few people who need to have that shown to them.

Posted by: amelia45 | January 28, 2011 10:13 AM | Report abuse

At the risk of pointing out the obvious, Sarah Palin (like Michele Bachmann) are embarrassments to the American political discourse, but they have what Republicans never get enough of- the ability to raise vast sums of MONEY.

"Presidential" in GOP-speak is, the ability to raise cash for the propaganda machines.

Posted by: rowens1 | January 28, 2011 10:35 AM | Report abuse

That Palin completely missed the Obama's point relative to the Sputnik moment is indicative of a syndrome that she shares with quite a few other people on the right. They refuse to listen much less try to understand any ideas from outside the right-wing echo chamber.

Posted by: tunkefer | January 28, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

to "2229"; DIMocRAT hypocrites; all,

personal to "2229": inasmuch as i'm "a person of color" (fyi, i'm bi-racial & lots of people on this forum know who i am "in real life".), you have succeeded in making yourself LOOK really STUPID. - would you care to "revise & extend" your remarks
OR
shall everyone here, who has an IQ "above average room temperature", just laugh AT your "emptiness between the ears" & ridicule you as a hate-FILLED, ignorant FOOL?

btw, your village called. - they want their idiot back.


to the "committed DIMocRATS" of the forum: aren't you so very proud of US Representative Jim Moran of VA, who went on ALJAZEERA cable TV to tell the whole World that the ONLY reason that Americans voted the DIMs out in the general election of 2010 was because they didn't want to be "ruled by a Black President"?
are all of you DIMocRAT extremists THAT "just plain stupid"? - IF you ARE that clue-LESS & brain-DEAD, you are to be PITIED by normal people.


to all: the more i learn about the "progressives"/DIMocRAT "leaders"/"the ruling class"/leftists, the better i like poisonous snakes, venomous spiders, worms & scorpions.

NOTE: IF you are as angry & disgusted, as our members are, with the horrid MESS that BHO, his coven of thugs/bigots/fools/antisemites and the DIMocRAT "leadership" have made of our country over the last few years, join the TEA PARTY in your local county/parish/city & help us return our nation to the small/sane/commonsense government that our Founders intended it to be/remain. you will be warmly welcomed!

just my personal opinion/views. - i do NOT & can NOT speak officially for our county's TEA PARTY, absent a vote on each issue by the assembled membership.

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | January 28, 2011 10:57 AM | Report abuse

dumb -- michele bachmann

dumber -- sarah palin

dumbest -- teabaggers


hey, sister sarah supporters', your silence on this is both welcome and deafening.

Posted by: johndoe11111 | January 28, 2011 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Poor Sarah. If ignorance is bliss, Sarah is one of the happiest people in the world.

Posted by: jckdoors | January 28, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Mr. Strombery isn't quite as right as he thinks he is:

"Newsweek goes on: “With Sputnik’s 50th anniversary this week, we’re in danger of getting it wrong yet again, for the supposed lessons of Sputnik are ones we should actually unlearn.” Ouch. Memo to Stromberg: Read some history next time. Memo to President Obama: quit the myth-making.
Palin is right: Sputnik was the typical government solution; symbolism over substance. The Soviets did not really create a satellite, and Washington really wasn’t threatened by it. They “welcomed it.”
Palin’s other point is that Sputnik was the sort of government bureaucratic program that got the Soviet Union in trouble; it’s an example of what eventually did them in. Citing Wikipedia (what journalistic ingenuity!), Stromberg argues that actually the Soviet Union didn’t have a debt problem until some “thirty years after” Sputnik. Perhaps instead of relying on Wikipedia, Stromberg might have consulted Robert Gates’ book From the Shadows which chronicles, in part, his career as a Soviet analyst at the CIA. (Just in case they are unaware at the Post, this is the same Robert Gates who is now the Secretary of Defense.) On page 173, he accurately points out that the CIA knew early on of the “Soviet economic crisis. From the late 1950s, CIA had clearly described the chronic weaknesses as well as the formidable military power of the Soviet Union.” Hmmm. Do you think this “chronic weaknesses might have had something to do with excessive bureaucracies and the size of government? Note to Stromberg: you will have to close Wikipedia and actually crack a book for this one.
Intellectual debate is well and good, but if you’re going to condescend, you better have something to condescend about. In this case Steve Stromberg of the Washington Post just got schooled by Sarah Palin."

Written by Peter Sweizer who's not exactly a dunce regarding Soviet Politics and the cold war.

http://bigpeace.com/pschweizer/2011/01/28/sarah-palin-schools-the-washington-post-on-history/?utm_source=co2hog

Posted by: techo555 | January 28, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if it's a coincidence that federal investment in basic science (as a percentage of GDP) peaked in the second quarter of 1987 -- which ended just a few weeks after RR challenged Gorbachev to "tear down this wall."

Notice I'm not talking about defense spending here, or applied/industrial R&D. It's been downhill for basic research ever since and China and India are reaping all the benefit of our grossly misplaced priorities.

Posted by: Ralphinjersey | January 28, 2011 11:21 AM | Report abuse

How is Sarah Palin the dumb one here when her facts are correct, and the blogger citing wikipedia has his facts wrong. It's somewhat astonishing to see the rush of people that commented on how stupid and dumb she when the reality is the exact opposite, at least in terms of this article.

Wikipedia? Really?

Anyone semi-knowledgeable of Soviet history knows they had debt and currency problems from Lenin right up to the system's demise. They always struggled with the issue of "hard currency" (which the ruble was not). You'd think the blogger here would at least consider a more reliable source than wikipedia. Talk about "laziness" in fact-checking.

His logic or perhaps more aptly his perception is deeply flawed as well. He suggests Palin claimed Sputnik is where the Soviets incurred their debt, and then insists that she inadvertently diminished Reagan.

How could any intelligent, educated reader not see through such a fallacy? Of course, Palin made no claim that the entire Soviet debt was incurred in the 50s during the Sputnik era. How in the world would someone get that from her comments? Clearly, the debt and need for hard currency accumulated, but all along civilian sectors had to go without in order to fund the Soviet military machine.

Posted by: wkrand | January 28, 2011 11:24 AM | Report abuse

WOW!

Who knew?

34 years after Sputnik the Soviet Union collapsed under the Sputnik debt load.

Yep, that's a "load" alright!

Another history lesson from the twit residing at the intersection of Airhead Way and Tardsville Blvd.

Posted by: Epistolarian | January 28, 2011 11:32 AM | Report abuse

WOW!

Who knew?

34 years after Sputnik the Soviet Union collapsed under the Sputnik debt load.

Yep, that's a "load" alright!

Another fantasy history lesson from the twit residing at the intersection of Airhead Way and Tardsville Blvd.

Posted by: Epistolarian | January 28, 2011 11:35 AM | Report abuse

to "johndoe11111",

reference your opinions, above: "the DUMBEST of the DUMB" are the poor, benighted, fools who believe ANYTHING that the elitist, ARROGANT, SELF-important, DIMocRAT "leaders" (and their rich/privileged "backers") spew out in print and/or onto the public airwaves.

fyi, "the rulers", the political/business/academic/financial ELITES & "the smart set" laugh "behind their well-manicured hands" AT anyone who is UNknowing/clue-LESS/stupid enough to believe their KNOWING LIES & SELF-serving drivel.
"the leadership" cares NOTHING for anyone except themselves & "their good friends"
and
they wouldn't spit upon "the common people" like you & me, if either of us caught fire.

all that "the leaders" want "from people like us" is our MONEY & VOTE.

you might want "to think on that".

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | January 28, 2011 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Also the conservative Reagan myth is nonsense. The collapse of the price of petroleum caused the Soviet debt crisis. That's what they say. It makes sense.

They didn't have to try to match the Reagan buildup. More importantly they were spending insane amounts on their military before he was elected. The idea that Soviet production of arms or anything responds to any sort of evaluation of what is needed or useful demonstrates total ignorance of the Soviet system.

They built and built and built. The fear that they must be planning to use the weapons at least to intimidate was as silly as the belief that they would build less if we built more so they couldn't hope to meaningfully surpass us (the original neoconservative argument) or that they would build more and bankrupt themselves if we built more (the revised neoconservative argument which reaches the same conclusion they always reach based on the fact that their last prediction was wrong as always).

Posted by: rjw88 | January 28, 2011 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Also the conservative Reagan myth is nonsense. The collapse of the price of petroleum caused the Soviet debt crisis. That's what they say. It makes sense.

They didn't have to try to match the Reagan buildup. More importantly they were spending insane amounts on their military before he was elected. The idea that Soviet production of arms or anything responds to any sort of evaluation of what is needed or useful demonstrates total ignorance of the Soviet system.

They built and built and built. The fear that they must be planning to use the weapons at least to intimidate was as silly as the belief that they would build less if we built more so they couldn't hope to meaningfully surpass us (the original neoconservative argument) or that they would build more and bankrupt themselves if we built more (the revised neoconservative argument which reaches the same conclusion they always reach based on the fact that their last prediction was wrong as always).

Posted by: rjw88 | January 28, 2011 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Exceelent point. I caught Palin's time compression of the Soviet debt issue and thought that was bizaar

Posted by: roboturkey | January 28, 2011 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Sarah was right on target. WTF sums up the president's address nicely.

Posted by: robtay12003 | January 28, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Sarah was right on target. WTF sums up the president's address nicely.

Posted by: robtay12003 | January 28, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

SPUTNIK MOMENT: Soviet space expert James Oberg comments:

“I’m seeing up close how ‘Palin Derangement Syndrome’ can compel otherwise intelligent people to foam at the mouth and babble nonsense to prove they’re right and she’s wrong. . .

"... It’s more complicated, but the essence is, Palin was right: the Soviets sowed the seed of their own collapse by setting off the Space Race.”

Posted by: pvilso24 | January 28, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Palin and Bachmann (I matriculated in the latter's home state) remind of many of those I went to college with. They wallowed in their ignorance, speaking with authority, if not accuracy, about politics and history. And if anyone tried to point out their faulty facts or reasoning, they were instantly dubbed as arrogant and elitist. Now, I guess they have infiltrated the halls of governance. Either we must accept this "Revenge of the (Mental) Turds", or in the case of Palin and Bachmann, have mercy on them, and get them both to the nearest gas station where their low PSI count can be remedied.

Posted by: drobbins2 | January 28, 2011 12:39 PM | Report abuse

And that doesn't calculate at all the mighty spending spree that Pres. Reagan's anti-Soviet military build-up put into place that continues to haunt the budgets of today: "Star Wars" anti-missile system, B-1 bomber, MX Missile system, Osprey, Blackhawk, F-17, Trident II missile, and a host of other weaponry. We put a lot of burden on our treasury trying to "out-do" the Soviet Union and her allies then, and continue to develop and support advanced systems today. Yet I don't recall fiscally conservative Republicans denouncing such spending as dangerous or wasteful (though they were both). And yes, the programs were continued through Bush, Clinton, and Bush again administrations. Some continue to this day (approximately $225,000,000,000 on "Star Wars" and its descendants alone). We all have our "pets" in government. But it's grossly misleading to excoriate one administration for the same "faults" lauded in others. Isn't it?

Posted by: Jazzman7 | January 28, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

And that doesn't calculate at all the mighty spending spree that Pres. Reagan's anti-Soviet military build-up put into place that continues to haunt the budgets of today: "Star Wars" anti-missile system, B-1 bomber, MX Missile system, Osprey, Blackhawk, F-17, Trident II missile, and a host of other weaponry. We put a lot of burden on our treasury trying to "out-do" the Soviet Union and her allies then, and continue to develop and support advanced systems today. Yet I don't recall fiscally conservative Republicans denouncing such spending as dangerous or wasteful (though they were both). And yes, the programs were continued through Bush, Clinton, and Bush again administrations. Some continue to this day (approximately $225,000,000,000 on "Star Wars" and its descendants alone). We all have our "pets" in government. But it's grossly misleading to excoriate one administration for the same "faults" lauded in others. Isn't it?

Posted by: Jazzman7 | January 28, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

And that doesn't calculate at all the mighty spending spree that Pres. Reagan's anti-Soviet military build-up put into place that continues to haunt the budgets of today: "Star Wars" anti-missile system, B-1 bomber, MX Missile system, Osprey, Blackhawk, F-17, Trident II missile, and a host of other weaponry. We put a lot of burden on our treasury trying to "out-do" the Soviet Union and her allies then, and continue to develop and support advanced systems today. Yet I don't recall fiscally conservative Republicans denouncing such spending as dangerous or wasteful (though they were both). And yes, the programs were continued through Bush, Clinton, and Bush again administrations. Some continue to this day (approximately $225,000,000,000 on "Star Wars" and its descendants alone). We all have our "pets" in government. But it's grossly misleading to excoriate one administration for the same "faults" lauded in others. Isn't it?

Posted by: Jazzman7 | January 28, 2011 12:57 PM | Report abuse

More Republicans are turning away from Palin, to the point where now a majority of GOP-ers have a negative opinion of her. The conservative elites must still pay her lip service though, because the rabid minority that supports her is the one that screams the loudest.

Posted by: gorble | January 28, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

For those of us in the Pacific Northwest, Sarah Palin's story about the Spudnut Shop in Richland, Washington was a great moment of comic relief. She seems to believe that Spudnut is the epitome of a small business getting by without government support. But Richland's economy is largely dependent on federal dollars spent on cleaning up the Hanford Nuclear Reservation. Even the City's website states:

"The U.S. Department of Energy’s Hanford Reservation dominates this region in terms of its size, employment and expenditures. Hanford’s mission of waste management and environmental restoration has largely been focused on the River Corridor in the past few years. As that work is completed by 2015, the active cleanup area will shrink from 586 square miles to the 75-square mile Central Plateau."

If the billions of federal Hanford dollars suddently dried up, if cheap power from the federal Bonneville Power Administration went away, if irrigation water from the federal Columbia River system disappeared, how would the Spudnut Shop be doing?

Posted by: bearclaw1 | January 28, 2011 1:57 PM | Report abuse

If you want a real example of dreck, just take this Stromberg column. Semi-journalists like stromberg criticize Palin constantly while ignoring much bigger gaffes from Obama. Obama yesterday referred to Afghanistan repeatedly in an interview claiming that combat operations have ended there and that the U.S. will be out of Afghanistan by the end of the year. These statements were false. But is the WaPo reporting on these gaffes from the President. Nope. People who criticize Palin as stupid are willing to overlook much bigger examples of stupidity from Obama. Obama's supporters are in fact the most uninformed people in the country.

Posted by: ThisIsReality | January 28, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

http://bigpeace.com/pschweizer/2011/01/28/sarah-palin-schools-the-washington-post-on-history/

SARAH PALIN SCHOOLS YOU! Why do you all attack her so much? THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK, maybe? Do as your leader has asked….stop the hate rhetoric, okay? :)

Posted by: drugh | January 28, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Again, Sarah Palin verified she has no use for education but wants to get out her message. Bristol maybe plays cameraman in lieu of unemployed husband Todd? How many non-college-grad dependents does Sarah support? Maybe no educator besides Sarah's father will do. Does their toddler son who is supposed to get free speech, occupational therapy, physical and sensory integrative therapies weekly get them? How can he?

Posted by: virri345 | January 28, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Again, Sarah Palin verified she has no use for education but wants to get out her message. Bristol maybe plays cameraman in lieu of unemployed husband Todd? How many non-college-grad dependents does Sarah support? Maybe no educator besides Sarah's father will do. Does their toddler son who is supposed to get free speech, occupational therapy, physical and sensory integrative therapies weekly get them? How can he? Yet, Republicans admire her? McCain has distanced himself from her, probably embarrassed by now.

Posted by: virri345 | January 28, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Again, Sarah Palin verified she has no use for education but wants to get out her message. Bristol maybe plays cameraman in lieu of unemployed husband Todd? How many non-college-grad dependents does Sarah support? Maybe no educator besides Sarah's father will do. Does their toddler son who is supposed to get free speech, occupational therapy, physical and sensory integrative therapies weekly get them? How can he? Yet, Republicans admire her? McCain has distanced himself from her, probably embarrassed by now.

Posted by: virri345 | January 28, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Do you hear that rythmic Thump....Thump....Thump... sound? It's John McCain, banging his head against a wall!!!

Posted by: lenagabe1 | January 28, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Palin is right: Sputnik was the typical government solution; symbolism over substance. The Soviets did not really create the high-tech communications satellite everyone thought they did, and Washington really wasn’t threatened by it. They “welcomed it.”

Palin’s other point is that Sputnik was the sort of government bureaucratic program that got the Soviet Union in trouble; it’s an example of what eventually did them in. Citing Wikipedia (what journalistic ingenuity!), Stromberg argues that actually the Soviet Union didn’t have a debt problem until some “thirty years after” Sputnik. Perhaps instead of relying on Wikipedia, Stromberg might have consulted Robert Gates’ book From the Shadows which chronicles, in part, his career as a Soviet analyst at the CIA. (Just in case they are unaware at the Post, this is the same Robert Gates who is now the Secretary of Defense.) On page 173, he accurately points out that the CIA knew early on of the “Soviet economic crisis. From the late 1950s, CIA had clearly described the chronic weaknesses as well as the formidable military power of the Soviet Union.” Hmmm. Do you think this “chronic weaknesses might have had something to do with excessive bureaucracies and the size of government? Note to Stromberg: you will have to close Wikipedia and actually crack a book for this one.

Intellectual debate is well and good, but if you’re going to condescend, you better have something to condescend about. In this case Steve Stromberg of the Washington Post just got schooled by Sarah Palin.

Posted by: JustJoe3 | January 28, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Last time I checked, "to aspire," is an intransitive verb. Palin proudly professes to have majored in journalism, while bouncing from one college to another. A grasp of grammatical English would have been a requirement for such a major, one would think. Sound syntax and doing one's homework apparently are only for elitists.

Posted by: snohomishguy | January 28, 2011 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Let's look at it another way - Palin's comments are additional evidence that universes parallel to ours actually exist. It may be much more likely that she's actually a visitor from a parallel universe in which the things she states actually happened than that there's a human being on this planet as stupendously ignorant as she appears to be.

Posted by: apn3206 | January 28, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I've become disillusioned with the Republican party this last decade because they've lost any sense of fiscal conservatism. There's the reckless tax cut (and cut and cut) till we go bankrupt, and, then there's the "we don't need no stinking government in our lives" mantra that Palin is preaching.

I'm all for as small a goverment as we can get away with, but for Palin to say that the donut shop had no government help is ridiculous. Who built the road that the coffee shop is on? Who built the highways that get you there? Who educated the employees that work there? Who ensures that the food and drink they sell is edible and safe? Who provides the law enforcement so the donut shop isn't robbed? Who insures the money they have in the bank is safe, so that even if the bank goes under they'll still have there money? I think you get my point.

Again, I'm all for as small a government as possible, but alot of government spending is nessecary and provides a positive return on Investment.

Posted by: gaaallen | January 28, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I think if Ms. Palin would limit her comments only to those subjects with which she is familiar, we would all be better off - silence is golden.

Posted by: MidwaySailor76 | January 28, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

People from around the world must look at Sarah Palin - and the equally vapid Michele Bachmann - and wonder how in the world the United States achieved such a preeminent position on the world stage.

Posted by: MidwaySailor76 | January 28, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I plugged her symptoms into a Google search and it came back "Network Connectivity Problems".

Posted by: WmLaney | January 28, 2011 5:11 PM | Report abuse

"I'm certainly no fan of Palin's but I tell you what I would do if they requested my 25,000 e-mails.

Simply this:

I'll release them when Obama releases all of his high school and college transcripts, him medical records, his financial record as to how he got money to go thru Harvard & Yale, and one last kicker, a long form birth certificate.

And I would allow them to jail me for contempt until he did so.

I truly believe Palin is way off the mark but at least she can prove is a native born citizen."

I'd like Palin to release all of this information, as well so she can prove to us she is not, in fact, Canadian. No, I don't have any evidence to support these suspicions, but if she gave a damn about transparency, she'd do it anyways! Otherwise, I will make further unsubstantiated accusations about her being a secret Canadian trying to ruin America!

Posted by: j762 | January 28, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Why are you guys expecting Common Sense from Sister Sarah. It is obvious to anyone paying attention that she is not Well Read. This is same person who was offende when Katie Curic ask her "What do you read" It is obvious that she does not read muck. The Sputnic episode was a no brainer. As the kids say " She does not have a clue" And she wants to be President? Why does Foxx give this woman a forum?
Her knowledge of History is so sketchy it os embarrassment. And the Republicans support this
Woman? as the kids say OMG!! John McCain how could you unleash this Cassandra on us

Posted by: Carprin | January 28, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you libtards are pathetic.

Posted by: malclave | January 28, 2011 5:20 PM | Report abuse

"Palin is right: Sputnik was the typical government solution; symbolism over substance. The Soviets did not really create the high-tech communications satellite everyone thought they did, and Washington really wasn’t threatened by it. They “welcomed it.”

Do you seriously think that was what made Sputnik a big deal?
You think that is what made America terrified?
Um, how about the fact that it demonstrated a capability of developing advanced rocket technologies which could be used to launch nuclear weapons against the US, against which there was no defence?

Moreover, you clearly have no understanding of Soviet science. For matters of importance like nuclear weapons, ballistic research, and weapons development, the Soviets spared no expense and cut all red tape. In those regards, it was supremely effective bureaucracy.


"Hmmm. Do you think this “chronic weaknesses might have had something to do with excessive bureaucracies and the size of government?"

No, it had to do with the astronomical expenditures made during WW2, the loss of massive proportions of their population and catastrophic damage to their national infrastructure in that war, the systematic purging of its top minds, and other things which cannot fathomably be made into an analogy to American economic problems, as it appears you are trying to do.

Posted by: j762 | January 28, 2011 5:25 PM | Report abuse

I love it when Palin, Bachman and their ilk run their mouths. Their bildge and bile just shows how stupid and unformed they are. They are just loud brats and Republicans are afraid to say that the emperor has no clothes lest they hiss and stomp and blow the house down.

Keep it up please.

Posted by: RW0123 | January 28, 2011 5:33 PM | Report abuse

to all,

fwiw, i just re-read all the IGNORANT nonsense, expressions of arrogant stupidity & the evidence of inbred prejudice spewed out onto this forum by the dolts on the left edge of the political spectrum.

based on that reading of that hate-FILLED, STUPID, bilge, i strongly suspect that we TEA PARTIERS will need little money, time or talent to take the WH, capture the Senate, increase our margin in the HoR & utterly destroy the DIMocRATS Party in the eyes of the voters in 2012 & in the elections to follow. - that is a GOOD THING for LIBERTY!

laughing AT the DIMocRAT extremists!

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | January 28, 2011 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Good points, gaaallen, in your post of January 28, 2011 4:38 PM.

Posted by: apn3206 | January 28, 2011 5:41 PM | Report abuse

"laughing AT the DIMocRAT extremists!"

Can you please characterise a moderate Democrat?

Posted by: j762 | January 28, 2011 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Now that Palin is reluctant to use violent terminology to attack the President. she now resorts to the use of gutter profanity. Ignorant can be fixed, but stupid cannot.

Posted by: phirokawa | January 28, 2011 7:09 PM | Report abuse

There are much more important things to be concerned about in our nation that what Sarah Palin had to say. I'm more worried about the man-child you bozos elected to the Whitehouse. I read some BO worshiper calling him the "smartest president in our history" - now that's a STUPID statement. I haven't seen a president more in over his head since Jimmy Carter. I think Obama needs a sewage treatment plant named after him like the wackos in the SF area did for Bush.

Posted by: Nightfly | January 28, 2011 7:54 PM | Report abuse

An idiot is missing in Wasilla. Look at the back of your milk cartons!

Posted by: meldupree | January 28, 2011 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Stephen Stromberg, this is the first time I came across one of your stories. If this is an example of your accuracy in reporting, God help America. The same goes for most of your commentators. Sarah Palin's response to the dreck, ahhm dreadful Obama speech in the House was 100% correct. Pres. Obama is in the habit of telling lies after lies but loyal master liars like you and most of your readers it seems, keep backing him up with new lies. Do yourself a favor, research the subject you want to write about and you might get it right. The Sputnik lunch wasn't that long ago and the facts about it couldn't be so hard to get from archives at your paper and your library. Had you done that, you would have read that the Soviet Union won the space race. They got there first and that was what counted then. That sputnik was a piece of junk, had no other purpose but make America look silly, that it had only a second rate transmitter in it is beside the point. President Obama got it wrong in his speech and you got it 'worser' wrong in your column. The centralized form of government with all the niceties of communism, usually with deadly force behind everything was doomed from the start, but when they got involved in space activity it was only a matter of time before they were finished. Whether it took 1 year or 30 is also beside the point. So do yourself a favor, before you start criticizing something Sara Palin says or writes, do your homework and you are less embarrassed. Oh, I forgot liberals don't get embarrassed. What a shame! Still, always remember the lady is prepared.

Posted by: Springer67 | January 28, 2011 11:36 PM | Report abuse

It is good to see that Post readers have adopted the "civility" that the President said was needed in civil discourse going forward. I suspect that places like this on the internet, including the Times and other liberal watering holes are exactly what Palin has in mind when she sends out her messages. The amount of energy posters here waste while frothing at the mouth from Palin Derangement Syndrome could light North Korea.

We now return to the regularly scheduled programming of the programmed minds who blog here every day....

Posted by: adamsdc | January 29, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

What I find even more telling about Democrats in general and most of the people that have commented on this editorial in particular is that they cannot read or if able to read then ignore what is told to them as the rules for commenting. Per the full rules governing commentaries and discussions anything that is hateful should not be allowed and I would submit that most of this would be construed as hateful and therefore should not have been allowed to be on here in the first place. Oh if forgot logic and "civility" are only for conservatives and a liberal can say anything. But this is the Washington Post so what else should I expect.

Posted by: ARealSouthernMan | January 29, 2011 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's some sort of CODEWORD to the soviets about things going according to plan, now that their IT systems can't be trusted (i.e., wikileaks).

Must be something pretty important if their not willing to risk putting it in a diplomatic communication channel.

Posted by: barcef | January 30, 2011 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Maybe it's some sort of CODEWORD to the soviets about things going according to plan, now that their IT systems can't be trusted (i.e., wikileaks).

Must be something pretty important if their not willing to risk putting it in a diplomatic communication channel.

Posted by: barcef | January 30, 2011 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Personaly I like Srah Palin.She say's what she wants o say or speaks her mind which most politicians are afraid to do at all.She is extremely smart and very well educated and everyone had best remeber this,she is and will be a very major and powerfull force to be reconned with,make no mistake there are very many in Washington that fear her a whole lot

Posted by: charles0390 | January 31, 2011 5:37 PM | Report abuse

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

Had one, George W, here comes another Palin the clueless.

Posted by: AnotherThomas | February 3, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

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