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Posted at 9:06 PM ET, 02/ 8/2011

Is the Tea Party cynical, after all?

By Stephen Stromberg

Some liberals may have to recalibrate their criticisms of Tea Partyers. One reads like this: They are little more than new faces on an old Republican right-wing, angry at government when it influences activities they prefer unfettered -- particularly the economy -- and enthusiastic when it assumes powers for the sake of things they might like better -- defense, homeland security, regulating social interactions. Given that folks such as Sarah Palin count in Tea Party ranks, this is surely true of at least some in the movement. But the fact that more than two dozen Tea Party-inspired GOP lawmakers voted against extending provisions of the Patriot Act, sending them to defeat Tuesday night, demonstrates that the analysis above isn't exactly right for the whole movement.

These 26 Tea Party types' emphasis on constraining government's authority now can't be as easily dismissed as a cynical electoral ploy. They extended their suspicion of government beyond federal activity in the economy and health care, combining with 122 House Democrats to stop the provisions' extension, which required a two-thirds supermajority to pass. By contrast, three Republicans opposed the Patriot Act when it passed in 2001, and ten Republicans opposed extending the sunsetting provisions last year.

This doesn't mean these lawmakers are right. But it does mean that they're not just ready stand-ins for Bush-style conservatives. In some ways, they might be more threatening to President Obama, who may have to contend with them on issues of executive power, even on national security, a realm in which the president surely thought he could count on lots of GOP support. And, of course, to the Republican leadership, who may have a hard time controlling them.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) described Tuesday's vote as the "first test" of the Tea Party's ideological sincerity. The bigger test, though, will come when Republicans closer to the mainstream of the party press divisive social issues that really drive powerful GOP interest groups: Gay marriage, abortion rights, the separation of church and state. My hunch is that there won't be as many Tea Party votes on the side of government non-intrusion then. And even if there are, Democrats who favor social liberties shouldn't get too excited; the same ideological fervor that would drive these Tea Partyers to vote with many Democrats on civil liberties also makes them rigid on taxing, spending and the debt.

Update, Feb. 9, 11:02 a.m.: Adam Serwer explains why you can't claim that the Tea Party writ large defeated the Patriot Act extensions, pointing out that most of the 52-member Tea Party Caucus in the House voted for reauthorization. "Republicans hate the welfare state, not the surveillance state," he writes. I would slightly rephrase that: Republicans, for the most part, hate the welfare state, not the surveillance state. The significance of that for the most part is greater in 2011 than it was in 2001 and in 2010, and that's the upshot from Tuesday night's vote. The nub of libertarian conservative opposition to government intervention outside of economic matters is larger in Congress now, after the Tea Party wave, than before it. This trend may not always matter as much as it did Tuesday night -- 26 or so House members can't do all that much most of the time. But it isn't entirely negligible, either.

By Stephen Stromberg  | February 8, 2011; 9:06 PM ET
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What is a Bush conservative? Have you really totally missed the Tea Party movement for the last two years? Every rally, virtually every speaker denounced big government whether it was led by Bush or Obama.
After two years you notice the Tea Party might not be synonymous with the Republicans! Brilliant!

Posted by: jy151310 | February 8, 2011 11:04 PM | Report abuse

The MSM has totally missed what the tea party movement is about.

The tea party includes around 40% democrats and independents

Posted by: JGJ643 | February 8, 2011 11:53 PM | Report abuse

The MSM has totally missed what the tea party movement is about.

The tea party includes around 40% democrats and independents. It has nothing to do with party labels.

Posted by: JGJ643 | February 8, 2011 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Mr Stromberg; JGJ643; all,

it is NOT that the (at least HALF-intelligent)leftists/"progressives"/DIMocRAT "leaders"/BHO/the main-SLIME media misunderstands the TEA PARTY movement.
instead, the VAST majority of those benighted/dishonest people understand quite well what our movement IS, rightly FEAR us & therefore KNOWINGLY LIE about who/what we Tea Partyers are as a movement.

for the ones of you, who have both OPEN minds & reasonable intelligence, the TEA PARTY is:
1. NOT part of the Republican Party,
(though we have many Tea Party members, who are members of that political party)
2. NOT "organized" in any traditional sense of that word,
(we are so distrustful of "authority" that most groups have NO officers. instead, we are a TRUE "grassroots movement" of MILLIONS of individuals.)
3. soon to be larger in size that BOTH major parties, combined,
4. politically diverse with many:
a. social conservatives,
b. social moderates, who are also financially conservative,
c. people who are libertarian in outlook & who simply want the government OUT of our lives/bedrooms/churches/businesses
d. moderate to conservative Democrats
and
e. people of every "skin color/tone", religion, social class, race, ethnic group,occupation, etc.
(as many here know, i happen to be "a person of color", i.e., BI-racial & i happily "celebrate" both of my ethnic heritages.)

in other words (even as one of the first actual members of the movement), i have some difficulty describing WHAT/WHO we are/will "be over the long haul".
what i CAN tell you, for certain, is that MANY of you readers do NOT understand us as you haven't actually looked at us & therefore have "bought into" the KNOWING LIES told by our "enemies" in the extremist/hate-FILLED/arrogant LEFTIST elites/DIMocRAT-controlled press.

a final comment to all: IF you want to KNOW about the TEA PARTY & see us as we are (good points, warts & all), come & SEE us at a rally. = you are cordially invited & you just might like what/who we are & want to JOIN!

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | February 9, 2011 1:17 AM | Report abuse

texanative46,

Your opinions might carry more weight if you didn't use the majority of your post to denigrate those who don't believe as you do. I for one am open to listening to Tea Party ideas but not to people who feel it necessary to insult my point of view because it is not in line with yours. As for the Tea Party itself I do find it's demands to be in conflict with the needs of the majority of Americans. And as exampled by your post I'm inclined to belief your party doesn't want to work for the betterment of all Americans but for the few you claim to represent. Now if you can leave the invective alone for a moment or two please explain how Tea Party politics will improve the lives of the majority of the country. You guys can't just be against policy, to be a valid movement you have to present policy ideas that reflect what you stand for. Being against big gonvernmet except when it benifits your members is not policy but selfishness and it will doom the Tea Party to the fringe sidelines just like many other political "movements" throughout American history.

Posted by: JDYoung | February 9, 2011 4:54 AM | Report abuse

I never thought I would be grateful to the Tea Party but if the end of the disgusting unAmerican Patriot Act comes about, I will sing their praises to the heavens.

Posted by: DLN1 | February 9, 2011 6:58 AM | Report abuse

One thing I know is not true is that the Tea Party did not have organizers. Dick Armey's group badgered me with mail and emails trying to get me to join. The Tea Party ideas are not accepted by the majority of Americans as numbers consistently show. Those of them who include racism I cannot abide or respect and I know that is not all of them.

Posted by: withersb | February 9, 2011 7:49 AM | Report abuse

How soon we forget. When Dick Armey, a leading Tea Party figure now, was in the House Republican leadership in the 1990s, he was a leader in the fight against the Clinton-Gore anti-terrorism initiatives. Jack-booted government thugs coming for your guns, and all that.

Then 9/11 happened, and the Republicans pivoted to blame Clinton/Gore for being too weak on terrorism, repackaged all the Clinton initiatives into the PATRIOT, turned it up to 11, added $400B of new military spending, and Dick Armey crawled back into whatever hole he crawled out of.

Now he's back.

Posted by: chase-truth | February 9, 2011 9:13 AM | Report abuse

As I believe the war on terror continues... and remains as dangerous as ever... I favor the Patriot Act extension.

But I also appreciate the libertarian faction of the Tea Party that strongly opposes ANY BIG Gov oversight and control.

As the Democratic Party tent shrinks (think the collapse of the centrist DNC), the Republican Party continues to expand... attracting black, Hispanic, gay, Democrat and libertarian conservatives !!

We may yet be saved from Progressive Leftist-driven decline.

Posted by: pvilso24 | February 9, 2011 10:13 AM | Report abuse

JDYoung; withersb; chase-truth; all,

to "JDYoung", "withersb" & "chase-truth": in the event that the three of you do NOT understand that you've been LIED TO & played for fools by the "DIMocRAT leaders", by LEFTIST extremist lunatics & "the main-SLIME media", i don't know what more to say to you.

frankly, anyone who believes the obviously FALSE, hate-FILLED, KNOWING LIES told about the TEA PARTY, by "the DIMocRAT leadership" and by their allies in "the main-SLIME media", are to be PITIED rather than despised.

nonetheless, a few points:
1. we members of the TEA PARTY do NOT, despite KNOWINGLY false claims to the contrary, as a group HAVE "organizers"/"recruiters" or anything even similar to "officers". - this does NOT mean that individual members do not ask friends/neighbors/total strangers to join the movement & help us take our nation back to her CONSTITUTIONAL roots.
2. Dick Armey is NOT a "Tea Party leader" any more than i am, as the movement doesn't really HAVE "leaders". = he's simply a member.
3. today's "DIMocRATS party leadership" will NEVER accept us and/or tell the TRUTH about us, as they regard us as "enemies".
(full disclosure: my entire family USED to be Democrats & most of the family were members of the railroad/postal/teachers/OCAWU/construction trades unions. - we are actively using our "organizing skills" today for the TP.)
4. President John F. Kennedy would NOT be accepted in today's leftist DIMocRAT party, much less be their candidate for any office, as the current "donkey party" has moved so far to the left that he wouldn't be welcome in their ranks.
5. ONE of the main reasons that MANY thousands of former Democrats are leaving their former party every month is that "the leadership" of that party see themselves as "the ruling class", as "just more important & better than", looks DOWN UPON & dismisses the wants/needs/beliefs of moderate to conservative voters.
(if you are reading this post & are a DIMocRAT extremist/SELF-important/arrogaant ELITIST, say "bye bye" to us forever, as we are & will remain members of the TEA PARTY. =====> let's see you win any future national election without "the stupid, stupid people from flyover country" like us. = thanks to PRINCESS PELOSI for that "gem".- that quote has brought us MANY new members. )
6. the "best recruiter" for the TEA PARTY was/is "obamacare", which the extremist "DIMocRAT leaders" enacted into law, against the desires of over 70% of American citizens/voters.
(every day that passes, "obamacare" becomes LESS popular & the passage of that boondoggle brings evermore members into our ranks by the TENS of THOUSANDS each month. - i'd guess, in a sort of a way, that we TEA PARTYERS should thank BHO, PRINCESS Pelosi, PRINCE Harry Reid, Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer & others of that ilk for our continued success!)

just my opinions. = i do NOT & can NOT speak officially for our county's TEA PARTY group, absent a vote on each issue.

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | February 9, 2011 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Tea Party-inspired GOP lawmakers on the state level are rapidly attacking the U.S. Constitution, Abortion, Health Care, LGBT, Education, the Environment and, well...

I find this something to get excited about.

I notice that the "Contract with America", or the "Contract from America", is now being implemented.

This is not your father's GOP.

Posted by: dbobsnodgrass | February 9, 2011 10:25 AM | Report abuse

"What is a Bush conservative? Have you really totally missed the Tea Party movement for the last two years? Every rally, virtually every speaker denounced big government whether it was led by Bush or Obama."

Nice try, einstein, but the president for the past two years has been Obama, not Bush. The pathetic anti-Bush bleats from you teabaggers after he left office impress no one.

Posted by: Observer691 | February 9, 2011 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to know who TexasNitwit is trying to impress with his juvenile posts.

Posted by: Observer691 | February 9, 2011 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Are tea-baggers cynical? Perhaps. Are tea-baggers hypocrites? Most definitely.

Posted by: spike591011 | February 9, 2011 10:31 AM | Report abuse

That statement that the tea party includes large numbers of Democrats and Independents is just untrue. If you can perform basic addition you can see that is not true from all of the poll numbers. I don't know who started that rumour but it is a lie.

Posted by: withersb | February 9, 2011 10:43 AM | Report abuse

pivilso24; all,

while i personally believe that terrorism is & (sadly) will remain a MAJOR danger to the citizens of the USA, i also fear that the leftists in the federal government will someday try to use such things as "anti-terrorist"/"gun control"/"fairness doctrine"/"campaighn finance laws"/"hate speech" laws to attack/silence people like me, who are LOYAL Americans (i happen to be a retired soldier, who spent nearly three decades in uniform, helping to defend this republic.), because they disagree with our/my wish to get the federal government OUT of our churches/bedrooms/homes/schools/businesses/LIVES.

in a nutshell, the elitist/leftist/statist "ruling class" wants to RULE OVER us & the "RULERS" regard TEA PARTY "street activists", like me for example, as "the enemy" & "dangerous" to their plans.
(when the Secretary of Homeland Security states on nationwide TV that armed forces "veterans" are all POTENTIAL TERRORISTS & "trained killers", who should be "closely watched" by law enforcement authorities, i feel i have legitimate reason to worry.)

just my personal opinion. = i do NOT & can NOT speak officially for our county's TEA PARTY, absent a popular vote by our members on each issue.

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | February 9, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

The Tea Party does not include any significant numbers of either Democrats or Independents. The reason is that the Tea Party doesn't tolerate any opinion or position which is contrary to its founding criticisms of moderates and liberals. Their recent anti Patriot Act vote was a token vote allowed by the GOP leadership in the House. When the Patriot Act renewals are brought up again, these Tea party House members will vote with the GOP.

The Tea Party does not welcome let alone solicit the support of moderates ot independents. They blame only Obama for what they consider to be the country's problems. These are economic problems were caused by Bush and made worse by the GOP's refusal to cooperate and compromise. They do not oppose excessive military spending with any credibility and yet they demand a balanced budget immediately. They call for repeal of Social Security and Medicare while the mojority of them collect such benefits. Why aren't they surrendering their claims to these programs?

Their protest signs are threatening and not welcoming.They accept funds and lobbying efforts from business and corporations. They fail to criticize the pandering and influence of lobbyists and are already pursuing campaign funding for the next elections.

The Tea Party members are no different than any existing political group. The GOP House has barely met this year and has no plans to take any measures to address the unemplyment problems. Why aren't they asking Boehner "Where are the jobs?".

Posted by: mikesba | February 9, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse

As before the "Tea Party" is not coherent about that which they are angry about much less any solutions. They are and remain a bunch of loosely allied groups that even amongst themselves cannot agree on that, which is most important to them. One will tell you “They” are taxed too much, another that “their” freedoms are being abridged yet another that the Government is “Too Big” and yes some that do say there’s a “Black Man” in the White House, and all will tell you that their reason is why the rest of them are there. Far worse for this Nation is their unthinking solutions for any of these so called problems. They are a Black and white TV in a Color world only giving shadows of Reality.

Posted by: notthatdum | February 9, 2011 11:12 AM | Report abuse

withersb; all,

when whomever the TEA PARTY chooses to face BHO (assuming that he intends to run in 2012 & can actually win the DIMocRATS primary - i'm not at all sure that BHO will or can.) sweeps the nation in a landslide like none seen since President Reagan won, the US Senate is firmly back in responsible/conservative hands & the HoR has a solid majority of moderates/conservatives/TEA PARTERS, remember that we told you that the so-called "democratic party" was FINISHED as they have almost nobody left but the extremists/bigots/arrogant elitists/antisemites/crazies & those poor folks with an "average room temperature level IQ".


fyi, MANY of the moderate to conservative southern/western Democrats have deserted their former party (& with the many former "independents", who are now TEA PARTERS), combined with the social conservatives, former "rank & file" trade unionists & fiscal conservatives, the TEA PARTY will be the majority of the electorate by 2012. = pity that you cannot figure that out.

note to all: "the light at the end of the tunnel" is a TEA PARTY freight train that is about to run over "the DIMocRAT leadership" & the hate-FILLED, extremist, SELF-impressed, statist, LEFT.

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | February 9, 2011 11:44 AM | Report abuse

"IF you want to KNOW about the TEA PARTY & see us as we are (good points, warts & all), come & SEE us at a rally. = you are cordially invited & you just might like what/who we are & want to JOIN!"

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

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I've been to a few. Here in Florida, most of the Tea Pees are oldies on Social Security and Medicare who rail furiously against anyone else getting any kind of government help. There's also a sprinkling of racists you can call racists because if you do, they'll call *you* a racist, and the usual Christian Taliban and nutcase fringies we used to see at John Birch meetings and Lyndon LaRouche rallies.

And the leader of the local Tea Pees is a richie rich who is also a Republican leader, and whose main objective is to make sure no richie rich ever pays taxes.

"Only the little people pay taxes," said Leona Helmsley. To me, she is the Tea Pee and Republican saint who should be worshiped (along with Satan) at their altars.

We need to exorcise the demons that infest these people. I can just see myself at an altar in front of a bewildered crowd of tea bag nutsos, yelling "Foul Republican Spirits, Come OUT!"

Posted by: roblimo | February 9, 2011 11:54 AM | Report abuse

roblimo,

laughing AT you. - just out of curiousity, are you paid by the GOP to come on "PP" & make hate-FILLED,silly, meaning-LESS, stupid comments
and
to make the leftists/elitists look even more marginalized than they already do?
(if you are not, you should be!)

"get the message": you post is FICTION & LAUGHABLE, ignorant, bilge.

but PLEASE "rant on", as you are helping us recruit more TEA PARTY members!

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | February 9, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

There is hope for our country yet. The best news I've heard in the last two years. Below is a copy of what I've sent to my Reps. In DC

Dear Congressman.
Being an American citizen for 62 years I've witnessed and in some cases, have been an active participant in our country's worldly activities beginning with our involvement in Viet Nam. Five of eleven of my high school buddy's didn't come home alive from there.

I was in Dupont Circle Wash.DC when Nixon felt the need to surround the WhiteHouse with the city's buses. Many of us knew in our hearts that we didn't belong there, and at the time felt strongly enough about the mayhem taking place there to take to the streets to make our voices heard. History has now proved we were justified and I for one have only one regret. I wish I had been even more militant at that time. Had I been. I believe it quite possible that maybe we could have shaved off a few more days of our involvement in that war. The benefit could have caused one less Land Mine to be placed in the ground there that to this very day are killing and maiming the men,women and children of Viet Nam and Cambodia. I, with my daughter recently traveled there for some ancient temple touring and came face to face with the ongoing after effects of our involvement there. It hurt us both deeply.

Because of 911 and this nations historical knee jerk reactionary way of doing business we are once again exporting death and destruction to foreign lands and at the same time disrespecting all those that in the past and to this day have defended our constitution. Sir The "Patriot Act" and the Pending "Cyber Security Act" are abominations and must be defeated. I would rather take my chances with the terrorists.

America has become what we fought and died for against. And that fact has not gone un-noticed by the world at large.

The wikileaks organization and the traction it has received is symptomatic of our national disorder and points out where we as a once beacon of hope for the world went astray. Secrets and making policy behind closed doors is what fosters self serving agenda's and other such stupidity that now places America in the crosshairs. Frankly speaking. I would rather turn my car into a yard planter than have one person injured or killed because the powers that be there in DC think I'm ok with carrying around the guilt brought about the damages of trumped up wars invented to procure the petro chemicals needed to keep it running. Restore my faith in the goodness of America. Defeat those two attacks on our Constitution. Thank You.

Posted by: saintronmcg | February 9, 2011 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, Obama is the one who is now acting like a Bush-style Conservative.

To say he has become a disappointment would be a colossal understatement.

Posted by: thomasmc1957 | February 9, 2011 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Steven - one point you failed to discuss...the Patriot Act failed because of the majority of Democrats also voting 'no'.....you know - these were the same ones that voted 'yes' when it was a democratic house majority last year but voted no now - hmm - go figure on that hypocriscy?

Posted by: short1 | February 9, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

The teabagheadnazilunatics were conspicuously siltent under that moron w. These fools awakened only when Obama was elected. Go back to sleep you sickos till another fool such as that moron w is appointed by the supreme court.

Posted by: letemhaveit | February 9, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

It is true that today's GOP does not march in the same regimented lockstep jackboot style that they did during the previous Bush administration, and the Tea Party caucus is the reason. But this won't save them from the Birthers and racists and Flat-Earthers who make up a large portion of their ranks, and doom them to minority curiosity status.

Posted by: gposner | February 9, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

letemhaveit,

do you have even an inkling of how foolish/SILLY/hate-FILLED & frankly "not particuliarly bright" that your (at best) semi-literate bilge makes you sound?

for starters, you might learn to spell simple words, learn some basic grammar & then go discover that the nazi party (actually the: NSDAP) was filled with socialists, who are in many ways hauntingly similar to the arrogant/bigoted/antisemitic nitwits of the leftist/lunatic, extremist fringe of the Democrat party.
(NSDAP is the German abbreviation for: National SOCIALIST German Workers Party.)

fyi, that's why such "1/2-smart"/bigoted persons, from "the lunatic-lefty wing" of the Democrat party, are known widely by intelligent people, as: DIMocRATS.

laughing AT you.

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | February 9, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

gposner; all,

fwiw, we have had a $ 10,000 bounty offered to anyone, who can prove that ANY actual member of the TEA PARTY is a racist and/or has made ANY racist statements, for well over a year. = NOBODY has claimed (or even tried to claim) the money, so i would guess that you are, like so many other "true believers" of the main-SLIME media, 100% WRONG.

what we HAVE had was numerous people who said that "someone i know" thought that there MIGHT be racists in our midst. inasmuch as many of our members are "NON-white" (including ME), i would guess that such accusations are, in just one word, FALSE.

note to all: LIARS can make up more false/silly accusations on a variety of subjects, than ANYBODY has enough time/energy/money to refute. further, when the LIES are proven to be FALSE, the same LIARS make other equally stupid/false accusations.

yopurs, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | February 9, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how much the Krotch Brothers are paying Texasnitwit to do this all day.

Posted by: Observer691 | February 9, 2011 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Observer691,

why should anyone here, who has ever read the errant NONSENSE that you routinely post here, care what/IF you think?

fyi, i'm retired from the Army & today have nothing to do until 5PM, except to point out what hate-FILLED/arrogant FOOLS & IDIOTS that the vast majority of the DIMocRAT/leftists on "PP" are.

fyi, the scribblings of most of the leftist DIMwits of this forum indicates that 3rd grade was their best 5 years. further, it is just those sorts of semi-literate scribblings that is turning the moderate to conservative Democrats OFF & sending them into the waiting arms of TEA PARTY membership. - we happily welcome the former Democrats into our groups & put them to work to defeat BHO & the DIMocRATS in 2012 & in every election to follow.

laughing AT you!

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | February 9, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

The Teabagger inbreeds are nothing more than the astroturfed (Koch Brother Billionaires) hardcore Republican base nuts. They just rebranded themselves after they got embarrassed and had their arses kicked in 06 and 08.


The only people who haven't figured this out are the conservative loving Corporate Media hacks, who actually do know better but they're so afraid of the Right Wing Noise Machine (Faux News, AM Hate Radio etc) that they won't report on it accurately.

.


Posted by: DrainYou | February 9, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse

DrainYou,

fwiw, it's hate-FILLED, semi-literate, nitwits like you that have succeeded in destroying ANY chance whatever that the (formerly worthwhile) "common people's Democrat Party" will EVER win another national election.
(we moderate to conservative former Democrats gotten disgusted & have left our previous party to the 30% of voters who are DIMocRATS. you will note that 30% in politics is ALWAYS a LOSER, chump.)

intelligent people, who are moderate to conservative (fyi, this is a center-right nation & will always be.), want NO part of any organization that is controlled by IDIOTS,crooked union bosses, professional racebaiters, thugs & SELF-important/elitist lunatics.
(PRINCESS Pelosi & PRINCE Harry Reid come immediately to mind as just TWO of those elitist FOOLS.)


face it, if a few million "ordinary people"/political amatuers/volunteers of the TEA PARTY (like me, for example) can utterly destroy any chance that the "DIMocRAT leaders" have of ever being trusted to lead the USA again, you should think on what has become of the party of JFK.
then, you may sit in the corner & carp/complain/whimper/whine/moan/weep as your party is FINISHED in 2012 & in the elections to follow.

laughing AT you.

yours, TN46
coordinator, CCTPP

Posted by: texasnative46 | February 9, 2011 11:16 PM | Report abuse

" Is the Tea Party Cynical ?" I hope so.

Posted by: puck-101 | February 10, 2011 5:21 AM | Report abuse

It will not be a betrayal of principle for the Tea Partiers to oppose gay marriage or abortion. The regulation of these matters are constitutional powers held for centuries by the states, which certain courts have seen fit to usurp in recent decades, based on their preferred policy outcomes. It is hardly statist to refuse to give state sanction to a homosexual union, or to deny federal funding for abortion.

Posted by: DJC88 | February 10, 2011 1:54 PM | Report abuse

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