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Silicon Valley criticizes Google-Verizon accord

Some in Silicon Valley are responding to the Google-Verizon pact on net neutrality, and they aren’t pleased.

Facebook, a member of the Open Internet Coalition, said it doesn’t support the legislative proposal. Google is also a member of the coalition, and is facing criticism for what looks like a retreat from previous principles.

“Facebook continues to support principles of net neutrality for both landline and wireless networks,” said spokesman Andrew Noyes in a statement. “Preserving an open Internet that is accessible to innovators -- regardless of their size or wealth -- will promote a vibrant and competitive marketplace where consumers have ultimate control over the content and services delivered through their Internet connections.”

Amazon.com has recently said it can support co-location of servers, where content companies like it and Google pay more to be closer to their customers. This provides faster delivery of their content and services.

But it isn't for the idea of managed services – carving out parts of Verizon’s broadband pipe to give out to the highest bidder (for example, if streaming Netflix on FiOs, chargingn consumers for the better quality).

"We've long supported net neutrality and although we agree that network operators should be allowed to offer additional services, we are concerned that this proposal appears to condone services that could harm consumer Internet access," Amazon said in a statement.

Brad Burnham, a venture investor in firms Twitter, Foursquare and other Web startups, has said a lack of strong net neutrality rules leaves cop on the beat to allow companies such as his to thrive. Here's a video on him on Post Tech talking about he believes the FCC should go forward with broadband rules, despite opposition from carriers.

And in the New York Times Monday, the Union Square Ventures partner wrote about two main concerns with the Google-Verizon proposal. No rules for wireless, when "more and more Internet services are accessed wireless ... (provides) no assurance that consumers will be able to get to the applications and the content on their wireless devices. He said the threshold for what is unfair treatment of content on wireline networks is too low. "The access providers are prohibited from discriminating against specific applications providers only if it would cause “meaningful harm to competition or to users.” The network management provision provides broad latitude for Internet access providers to interfere with applications layer services.

Public interest groups and some academics have also criticized the deal.

Public Knowledge, a public interest group that advocates for equal access to media, said the agreement between Google and Verizon leaves the wireless industry unregulated and allows for priority paid services as described above, which would squash competition.

It also said the firms’ pact weakens the Federal Communications Commission, which could only be a watchdog of bad actors on a case-by-case basis, based on rules led by an industry-led advisory group. In other words, the FCC would follow cues from corporations.

“Combined with the proposal’s recommendation that the FCC have no rulemaking authority with respect to consumer protection and nondiscrimination, the agreement outsources the FCC’s powers and authorities to the very industries these rules are supposed to oversee,” said Sherwin Siy, deputy legal director of Public Knowledge

Some academics said the agreement appeared lopsided, favoring the positions of network carriers that have been loath to see new rules.

“The Verizon-Google proposal is a mix of 90 percent of Verizon's anti-net neutrality positions and only 10 percent Google's pro-net neutrality positions,” said Nicholas Economides, a professor at New York University’s Stern School of Business.

“I believe that the FCC should protect consumers by adopting clear and strict network neutrality rules, as President Obama has repeatedly promised,” he said.

By Cecelia Kang  |  August 10, 2010; 12:11 PM ET
Categories:  FCC , Facebook , Google , Net Neutrality , Verizon  
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The deception of Schmidt is unforgivable. He talks about an open "wire line" internet deliberately leaving the impression all is right with the internet world. Excluded from the so-called policy statement is the wireless internet which includes all mobile devices. This is the market Verizon wants to control big time. Comcast can have cable- but Verizon/Google will be stomping all over all present and future wireless internet users (4G, 3G and all future G). Come on Eric. - do you take us all for a bunch of fools?You want to keep the pristine image of Google as defenders of Net Neutrality but you are selling the future internet down the river. Such hypocrisy is unforgivable. Google has raised its true flag and it is the flag of Big Business and Corporate Control. We must all join forces and fight this destruction of internet openness. Down with Google!! We need to promote and support open source search engine development - or any service provider that truly embraces Net Neutrality and does not lie to the public like Eric Schmidt and his Google crowd. I would implore all disappointed Google employees to bail out and start planning for a time when your employment contracts will permit you to create a monster Google competitor. There is a Wiki oriented public prepared to help pay for this freedom. Lets all vow to terminate our GMAIL accounts and stop using Google software of any sort.

Posted by: jeffl240 | August 10, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Instead of hiring engineers to develop new protocols and new technology to increase bandwidth, Google and Verizon want to hire more MBAs to slice up the current technology to their financial advantage. New technology and protocols have historically done much more to nurture start-ups and generate new businesses than the men in suits.

Posted by: scsmits | August 10, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I think the time has come for us all to consider what power the people have.
It is time to make a stand.
Consider this,...
What if everyone who believed the net neutrality is paramount, and on September 1st 2010 made a stand.
All of them dropped verizon phone, verizon wireless, verizon fios and verizon fios tv.
What if all of the people who believe this is important, did a similar thing to google? Stopped using google for anything. No Searches, no email, no google voice, no google maps, no buzz etc?
Do you think they would take notice?
Not just for a day, but a huge slap in their face. No more google , no more verizon ever. If the people take a stand. the companies will surely fail quickly.
While I would not want to see companies fail, I would prefer they live up to their word. When they don't and they think they are bigger than life, it is time to take them down a notch.
Verizon as a company can be wiped off the map in mere months if just 40% of the people canceled their accounts.
Google may take a bit longer, but keep in mind, the share holders would tell google what to do if they noticed a difference.
If people saw verizon fail then sprint and att would not attempt such an idiot idea.
I will be leave everything google and everything verizon on September 1st 2010.
Please join me.
Make a stand!
On September 1st, 2010, stop using Google for anything. Cancel your Verizon accounts.
Start to set everything up now to work around.
Some people simply can not, and have some requirements and may only be able to cut some of the services. Others can cut them all as there is other alternatives.
I will cut all their services on September 1st 2010.
Instead of verizon wireless I will use sprint.
Instead of verizon phone services I will use vonage.
Instead of verizon fios internet I will use time warner cable.
Instead of Fios TV I will use time warner Cable.

Instead of google maps I will use Bing.
Instead of google search I will use bing search.
Instead of google gmail I will use windows live or live.com

On September 1st, 2010 I will remove all things google or verizon from my cell phones and computer.

I will not come back to Verizon as I believe they overstepped their bounds.
I will not come back to google as I believe with this mistake they should fail.

Good Bye Verizon
Good Bye Google.

You signed my cancellation when you ended, or tried to end, net neutrality.

Please join me and make a stand on September 1st 2010.

Posted by: haroldsharpe | August 11, 2010 1:08 AM | Report abuse

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Matter of fact, I wish Washington Post would offer me a good permanent email solution; I'd start using it.

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Matter of fact, I wish Washington Post would offer me a good permanent email solution; I'd start using it.

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