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Slap! Bad Imus! Ok, Now Everybody Back to Your Raunchy Radio.

In 1982, when a New York Top 40 radio station sought to lure listeners for its two top deejays, the station launched an ad campaign under the slogan, "If we weren't so bad, we wouldn't be so good." The bad boys on WNBC were Don Imus and Howard Stern.

They played the same music that could be heard on any other Top 40 station--what made them different and alluring was how they pushed the envelope, saying things that ran right up against the edges of what the FCC would tolerate on the airwaves and what listeners would find titillating and amusing and outrageous, but not quite unacceptable.

In the quarter of a century since then, Stern and Imus have made millions and spawned hundreds of imitators in radio, TV and every other corner of the popular culture. As the culture coarsened, shock jocks found that they had to keep ratcheting up the raunch to maintain their ratings numbers. In my book on radio, "Something in the Air," I profile one of Imus and Stern's colleagues, Tom Leykis, the Los Angeles-based host of an especially raunchy sex talk show. Leykis lays it on the line:

"I'm a hit man. People know they can put me on the air and get numbers, fast. And to keep that going, I have to go on the air and tell the audience I'm going to whip my [expletive] out, because the company needs to get a faster return on their investment.... In radio, we've gotten beyond the idea that talk has to have this purpose beyond mere entertainment. Our topics are just a vehicle for me to make fun of the callers."

Now, Imus finds himself in the same ugly and uncomfortable spot that ended the big-time radio career of The Greaseman, a far more creative shock jock.

Imus's comments about the Rutgers University women's basketball team last week--he called them "nappy-headed hos"--have loosed an avalanche of criticism, including calls for his firing from many organizations representing women and blacks. Rev. Al Sharpton had Imus on his own radio show yesterday, and Imus was both unusually meek and apologetic and characteristically feisty and righteous. The apologies may have saved his job for the moment: Shortly after the Sharpton appearance, both CBS Radio, which owns the Imus show, and MSNBC, which puts up a cheesy TV version of the radio program each morning, suspended Imus for two weeks.

All together now: Ooooh! Two whole weeks, possibly without pay (the networks didn't mention that part)! That will really teach the 66-year-old millionaire a big lesson.

Sharpton and company are not exactly mollified. Sharpton from start to finish wants Imus sacked: "I didn't hear anything that changed my mind," he said on the air after Imus finished his two-hour-long appearance.

Imus repeatedly apologized for what he has called unthinking remarks and asked for a chance "to make it better" by meeting with the Rutgers players, their parents and coaches to work out a program of recompense. Imus trumpeted his work on behalf of sickle cell anemia research and black children living in poverty, and a number of callers defended the radio comic as a decent guy who has consistently worked for good causes. At Rutgers, a university spokesman says the players and coaches have not yet decided whether they want to accept Imus's invitation to sit and talk.

Given Imus's attitude on the radio, the kids might not want to put themselves in the position to be slammed again. On the air, Imus was not taking any guff. When Bryan Monroe, editor of Ebony magazine, came on the show and scoffed at Imus's mention of his work on sickle cell, Imus got his back up. Ebony was covering sickle cell when Imus was still "doing used car ads," Monroe said, and Imus interrupted:

"Don't get in my face about this," he said. "I didn't come here to get slapped around. I'm not going to take it."

To which Sharpton responded, "I'm sure you're not going to sit in a radio station and get touchy. You do this every day."

Most of Sharpton's guests and callers had a field day slamming Imus, who could do little but repeat "I agree," as one voice after another explained why it's so awful and demeaning to attack blacks by insulting their hair or calling them "hos."

But Imus couldn't stop himself from lashing back when the criticism got especially heavy. Exasperated by the fact that no one would accept his apologies, Imus at one point said, "I can't get any place with you people."

Sharpton and Congresswoman Carolyn Kilpatrick of Michigan were stopped short. "What do you mean by 'You people'?" Sharpton demanded.

"Don't try to hang that jive on me," Imus shot back. "I mean you two people."

"Try to be civil now," Sharpton said, and he went to a commercial break.

At show's end, Sharpton declined Imus's invitation to appear on his show--unless Imus was going to announce that it would be his last show. And there it stands, with Imus's employers, WFAN in New York, CBS Radio and MSNBC cable all saying how heartily they disapprove of the bad boy's comments and hoping that a slap on the wrist will quiet the madding crowd.

The irony here, of course, is that what Imus said, as ugly and juvenile and racist and disgusting as it was, is not out of character with the sort of thing that is said every day on that show and many others just like it all across the country. And that's not even counting satellite radio, which, because it faces no FCC regulation, is free to get even deeper into the gutter--and does.

The curious thing about flaps like this is why one particular moment or comment causes a national backlash, while the everyday sewer of raunch radio flows on without the slightest protest.

Washington Post sports columnist Michael Wilbon addressed the flap on his online show yesterday and made the same point--For all of Imus's good works and admirable character, the comment that got him in this situation is not out of the ordinary either for shock radio in general or for the Imus program in particular:

I don't care whether Don Imus apologizes, or whether he's fired. Freedom of speech allows him to say whatever he wants to say. But I've got freedom of speech, as well, and I prefer to have the right to rip his face off in print and on TV for saying, repeatedly, the racially offensive stuff he says over and over and over and over. He compares blacks and Hispanics to apes all the time. ALL THE TIME. It's not rare, it's not an exception. It's not a one-time deal. ALL THE TIME. He and the people in his studio act as if all Blacks are pimps and whores and all have gold teeth and are illiterate...I'm glad I'm guaranteed the right to come right back at a bigot of this level and say whatever I want to say...And I'm happy to go toe-to-toe. Happy to.

Obviously, with Sharpton leading the charge, there's an element of racial mau-mauing going on here. But just because Sharpton is an opportunist and rabble rouser doesn't mean he isn't right on the merits. What Imus said ought not to be acceptable discourse on the public airwaves. Still, to select one comment from the vast ocean of ugliness that makes up raunch radio and decades of the Imus program is kind of strange.

And it's particularly peculiar because the Imus show is not exactly a ratings powerhouse. It barely registers in the overall ratings numbers, even in Washington, where you'd think the show would do especially well given its emphasis on politics.

I'm always amused to hear the shock from prominent politicians and journalists in Washington when they learn how small the Imus audience really is. But they're right to be shocked because Imus is influential way out of proportion to his low ratings.

In some circles, especially among politicians and journalists in Washington, Imus's show, heard weekday mornings on WTNT (570 AM), passes for political commentary and even reportage. In the broadcasting business, the Imus program is a profitable curiosity, a show that makes big money while drawing rather small audiences. "It's a niche show," says Tom Taylor, a longtime radio observer for Inside Radio, a trade publication. "It's the radio equivalent of Tim Russert's show--it has a small but very influential audience."

Chris Dodd announced his presidential candidacy on the Imus program for a very different reason than John McCain announced on the David Letterman TV show. The Letterman show reaches many millions of people. The Imus show's audience is much smaller, but it's the people Dodd wanted to reach--the political consultants and media buyers and the politically obsessed, the people who donate money to campaigns and buy political books. After Oprah and NPR's Morning Edition and public radio's Fresh Air, Imus is considered one of the very best places to hawk a book because his listeners really do buy books.

And that's why what Imus says--and how people respond to it--actually is important. The companies that employ Imus most likely won't fire him--he's too profitable for them, and the people those executives know and respect listen to and enjoy the show. But it's not fair that some much less connected radio host would indeed be sacked for saying the same thing, nor is it fair that other raunch radio hosts say far worse things and face neither public criticism nor the prospect of losing their jobs.

In the end, it's all about public standards, and the fact is that we hardly have any anymore. On the web and on cable, literally anything goes. So when someone--anyone--tries to set or enforce a standard, it seems arbitrary and unfair. And that's a very sad state of affairs. The solution is not for Don Imus to fall on his sword. The solution is for the people who love his show and his shtick to demand that some standards be maintained on his program and on all others. Howard Stern's show is much less interesting on satellite than it was on broadcast radio, in good part because now, anything really does go. As Lenny Bruce taught us, it's the limits that tell us who we really are--how we pick those limits, who enforces them, and how or whether they match the actual beliefs and practices of ordinary people.

In a society where a great many adults think nothing of saying the most foul things in front of children and strangers, it's hard to take an occasional bout of faux outrage all that seriously.

By Marc Fisher |  April 9, 2007; 4:20 PM ET
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"mau-mauing"

Niiiiiiiice.

Posted by: Ralph Ellison | April 9, 2007 4:38 PM

Marc, I'm not sure where you got the idea that "anything goes" in the American media? It's totally the opposite. American media, compared to the media in other countries, is censored beyond belief. Have you seen the European version of "Big Brother"? With all the sex, nudity, swearing, etc.? Have you seen Eminem's visit to Berlin, broadcast on German national TV, where he swore in both English and German? Many Americans, including you, need a reality check.

Posted by: K80 | April 9, 2007 4:50 PM

Wilbon said it best,
"I don't care whether Don Imus apologizes, or whether he's fired. Freedom of speech allows him to say whatever he wants to say."

Sure what Imus said was insensitive, but he has the right to say it. You don't have to agree, and you don't have to like it, but just because you were offended doesn't mean he needs to be strung up. Don't listen.

Far too often in this country, just because some group (ANY group) is offended or bothered, they think they have the right to remove the offender from the airwaves, television, silver screen, etc. Free country people....everyone has the right to offend everyone else.

Posted by: calmdown | April 9, 2007 5:04 PM

Imus has over 10 million radio listeners.

Posted by: Smith | April 9, 2007 5:24 PM

What if Imus had said black hair yarmulke wearing hos in reference to jewish people? I think a lot of black people would take exception to a white person commenting on their hair in that fashion. Nappy is a term that many blacks are offended by. it is a term specific to blacks.

Posted by: Nathan | April 9, 2007 5:39 PM

Nathan is not smart:
What did I say to be labeled a Jew hater? I don't even know a jew to hate. Calling names dilutes the point you were trying to make.

Posted by: Nathan | April 9, 2007 5:41 PM

Re Smith:

Hard to tell what you mean by that figure but one thing is for sure you can't mean daily audience. That's delusional. Just think about what that math would mean in terms of reach. His show does not even have national exposure on radio!

Posted by: CW | April 9, 2007 5:50 PM

First, people constantly misunderstand what "freedom of speech" means. The First Amendment protects you from the government taking action against you because of the content of your speech. There is no "freedom of speech" that protects you (or Imus) from being fired by an employer for saying stupid things.
Secondly, it seems to me that Imus and his defenders are making two contradictory arguments: 1) what he said was no big deal, it was just a joke, he says things like that all the time, other jocks/comedians say these things, blah blah blah and 2) what he said WAS terrible and offensive and he shouldn't have said it but he has apologized for it and besides, he's a good guy.
So which is it?

Posted by: Mike | April 9, 2007 5:50 PM

"Sure what Imus said was insensitive, but he has the right to say it. You don't have to agree, and you don't have to like it, but just because you were offended doesn't mean he needs to be strung up. Don't listen."

Er, no actually. FCC regulations protect the airwaves from offensive language--the companies who are on the air are taking up bandwidth (a public resource) and the tradeoff is they have to be socially responsible. If Imus wants true freedom of speech, he can do satellite. No one is saying he can't say it--they're demanding, rather, that there be repercussions. He has a right to say it but he doesn't have a right to a job.

"The First Amendment protects you from the government taking action against you because of the content of your speech."

THANK YOU. I really wish people could remember this.

Posted by: NYC | April 9, 2007 6:01 PM

I listen to Imus most everyday, and he is not a racist. Although I don't agree with his tolerance for some foolish politicians, his program offers some of the most interesting and truthful commentary on the state of the Iraq war and the dishonesty in the Bush administration. He made an unfortunate mistake, but he should not be fired for it. Mr. Sharpton and Jesse Jackson had similar past mistakes but were not hounded out of their respective positions (i.e. Jesse Jackson's reference long ago to New York City as "hymey town" and Al Sharpton's defense of the black female teenager who fabricated a bogus story alleging she was raped)

Posted by: jan | April 9, 2007 6:08 PM

I agree that Imus went too far with his comments about the Rutgers Women Basketball team. Firing Imus will not stop the spread of bigotry or prejudice in this country. Imus is an entertainer who went too far. Many entertainers have crossed the line many times. Rev. Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have taken this too far. Mr. Imus should apologize to the girls who play at Rutgers, like he has expressed a desire to do.

Posted by: afam212 | April 9, 2007 6:12 PM

When Al Sharpton is viewed as the arbiter of taste and decorum, I fear for the culture. What is left of it, anyway. The greatest culprit in the use of "ho"? Try hip-hop music. Does anybody get the irony of that?

Posted by: You people make me sick | April 9, 2007 6:43 PM

I'd never paid any attention to Don Imus before he insulted the Rutgers women's basketball team. I only learned of this because I am a fervent fan of that sport and his remarks were posted to a fan board.

I hope the Rutgers Scarlet Knights do not meet with him. He doesn't need any more attention. Let him buy 100 RU season tickets and give them away to "nappy-haired" kids.

Posted by: Carol Anne | April 9, 2007 6:45 PM

Maybe Al Sharpton should go after the Hip-Hop culture. Imus said something pretty tame compared to what 50 Cents or any other rap artist say about black women. Where is the outrage?
Sharpton is an opportunist that does nothing to better society or his own culture.

Posted by: John | April 9, 2007 7:00 PM

Are you kidding me?
Where were you for the increase in our soldiers death benefits increase? Where were you for the Center for the Intrepid?

Where were you when Harold Ford Jr lost his election as the first BLACK senator from the SOUTH?
Where ARE you for children with Cancer?
Where ARE you for Autistic Children, 1 out of 150, born in OUR country ?Where were you for the Thermeracal that has now been removed from the vaccinations our children get in their first year of life?

Where ARE you for the rebuilding of New Orleans?
Where ARE you for the Home Health Care Workers in this country? Where ARE you for the Child Care Workers in this country?
Who was the person the Bishop's wife in Memphis called from her husband's hospital before his death? I wonder, did she call Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson!

Where are you regarding the effects the environment has on our children?
Where ARE you regarding the epidemic of the exponential growth in asthma in OUR country?
Where are you when blacks use the "N" word to each other?

Just where in the world our you? Oh that is right, get rid of Imus!
You go now!!!

Posted by: susan | April 9, 2007 7:05 PM

First of all, what he said was OFFENSIVE.

Second, those who try to bush off what he said, KNOW its OFFENSIVE, but have probably used Ho and Jiggaboo and other terms to refer to African Americans.

Third, the public radio and television airways are govern by the Federal government and they can regulate the speech on them. That's why Howard Stern went to cable; Imus should consider doing the same.

Forth, Imus is a racist. These terms are not terms he's not use to using. There just terms he's not use to using on the air.

Fifth, NBC, MSNBC, CBS and the radio station have all heard from me and his advertisers are next.

Sixth, I don't listen to IMUS, but when you put your foot completely up yours.. well folks like me will respond.

Seventh, he's just lucky none of those girls are my daughters. He really would not want to talk to me about this. I would have a few choice words about the females in his family, too.

Posted by: Denisew | April 9, 2007 7:14 PM

So you were a regular listener DeniseW? Or just checking in to be outraged?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 9, 2007 8:00 PM

I still don't get the double standard in race talk. It's not OK for a white person to talk trash--the "n" word, "ho" and the like, but it's OK for Afro-Americans to talk that way, sing that way, etc.

Why isn't it not OK for ANYBODY to talk that way? And if Afro-Americans insist that THEY can talk that way, why can't they be parodied?

So the I-Man was caught in er, what do we call it? Verbal adultery? And the Rev. Sharpton has always been perfect in this regard? OK, AL, if that's so, keep throwin' them rocks. Ditto everyone else.

And Mr. hyper-inflated Wilbon, who rarely makes it to a chat session on time because he's soooo busy. Where does he get the time to listen to what Imus says "over and over and over and over" again???

Posted by: Blue20716 | April 9, 2007 8:11 PM

My issue with what Imus said is that he is picking on defenseless people. These girls should not be targets of his bile.

For that, he should, and did, apologize.

But he says equally tasteless stuff every day. Offending every body and every thing. And that's fine by me, I listen every day. And after a while you realize that IS the joke. Everyone is fair game, as long as they have a forum to return fire. Senators, Authors, celebs, news people, all battered mercilessly. Irish, Jews, African Americans, poor whites; their foibles skewered every day.

That's the show. It's not for everybody.

But he shouldn't be picking on college girls, he needs to apologize, and he did.

Move on, or turn the dial.

Posted by: Jim | April 9, 2007 8:33 PM

I see no problem with what Imus said. He stated the truth in a joking fashion. White is true American Culture and civilized behavior. But Black is bad because it is hip hop and rape of women, etc. Nappy headed hos are indeed what the Rutger's women look like. They all look like gangbangers and their website makes them look like hoodlums. Our First Amendment is Free Speech and why do Whites have to walk a thin line while Blacks such as Jesse Jackson go out and make Bastard Children? Something is wrong in America and it is not IMUS!

Posted by: Jack | April 9, 2007 9:04 PM

Jack..bring that same talk to the streets, and we will see how long you feel that way.

Posted by: watch your mouth | April 9, 2007 10:15 PM

I came to this blog with some ideas regarding Imus's words which I thought were generally stupid/ignorant and deserving of the negative feedback. Not because what he said was all that outrageous or even new, but more because of the source. What does that guy know about anything? He panders to an audience who likes to think they (like he) are better than the rest. He makes millions running his mouth and then some bad salsa on the side.

And then I read Susan's post - and I changed my mind. Sure, Imus is an ass, no argument there and he (like Rush) will hopefully retire someplace w/o access to a microphone. Soon. And life will go on. But really, is this where these self appointed leaders should choose to focus their anger and words? Sharpton and Jackson minimize their effect by consistantly choosing the low hanging fruit. They preach as if they've never hurled a stone from their glass houses and yet they have. Their efforts will in the end I fear make a martyr out of this jackass, when they should have been so busy w/ any one of the issues mentioned above that they have no time for this blip on the overall radar of social injustices.

Be above it people.

Posted by: asta | April 9, 2007 10:55 PM

Imus and his boardman Bernard, frequently are racist. They are also sexist, agist, and insult the Catholic church frequently. (Bernard will put a file folder on his head and, sounding like he just like he stepped off the boat from Dublin, pretend to be the Cardinal of NY and generally acts like the skinhead he is.)
He is on the public airwaves, supported by advertising dollars. You want him off? Go after the sponsors.
Imus is long in the tooth and just waiting for an excuse to retire to his cancer ranch. I hope this is it.

Posted by: capeman | April 9, 2007 11:34 PM

I agree with Susan: the real obscenity is with the priorities of our nation and our public policy. Imus is not a cause, merely a symptom.

If it took Imus' idiotic rant to get you outraged, then you haven't been paying attention.

Posted by: Mister Methane | April 9, 2007 11:42 PM

How's that again? Don Imus making fun of how other people wear their hair?

Posted by: Mike Licht | April 10, 2007 7:28 AM

Imus is nothing more than a shake-down artist similar to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. He has made himself a Foundation and lives practically tax free.
He has his own Neverland ranch. The trip that a few hand picked kids make to his ranch does nothing for their disease.
The money would be much better spent at a children's hospital such as St.Judes where they have Doctors curing diseases, and where they turn no children away.
Imus is a degenerate and groveling becomes him.

Posted by: roger gober | April 10, 2007 7:48 AM

Last year I met many of the members of the Rutgers women's basketball team and I have to say: they are among the brightest, most mature, courteous, and hardworking college students I've ever met. They care deeply about being good students, good teammates, and all-around good members of the Rutgers community. As a college professor, I would be thrilled to have more students in my classroom who carried themselves and managed their lives like these women. They fully deserve to be seen as role models.

Posted by: SP | April 10, 2007 7:56 AM

Didn't Imus say what was really on his mind, just like Tim Hardaway. He said what was really on his mind, as well right?

Now look at what happened to Mr. Hardaway, fired and out of work and now Mr. Imus only gets a two week vacation?

Things that make you say hhhmmmm?

Posted by: RadioHead | April 10, 2007 7:59 AM

In the near future of court cases, the IMUS RANCH, will be known as the RUTGERS RANCH, and the "nappy headed hos" will be known as the NAPPY HEADED RANCHERS. That is what all this fussing is all about....money.

Posted by: tom hilburn | April 10, 2007 8:00 AM

Its suppose to be a free country, turn off the channel, change it if you don't like what you are listening to - to much censorship in the country - people look for a reason to complain about everything - get on with their lives.

Posted by: pam argast | April 10, 2007 8:05 AM

Jack, you must be related to Bastard Von Jack Asses. Now about IMUS. I use to watch IMUS from time to time and until last week I thought He was a good Jockie. I have two young boys. One looks White and the other looks mixed. I always try to monitor/filter what they hear from the air waves and lately it's been somewhat hard to do when you have Jack Asses of all kinds talking from their asses. IMUS totally knocked those girls spirit to the ground and many others who are trying to do the right thing. Back To Jack von Jack Asses. I'm a black man raising men and you should watch what you say. You could be my Bastard Son. And I DO NOT listen to Hip Hop nor do I listen to Hillbilli raped my brother and Sister today songs.

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 8:06 AM

MSNBC did not suspend the bastard when he made those horrible comments about the Jews a little while back. I'm glad the network execs finally came to their senses.

Posted by: Jon | April 10, 2007 8:09 AM

we are in a country where there is freedom of speech...are we not??

why is it always necessary for Sharpton/Jackson and all "those people" to get involved? Why aren't they more involved in their own neighborhoods, sensoring raunchy rap songs that portray women much worse than what Imus called them. How do those songs get played on the air with no Sharpton/Jackson outrage!?!?

Be fair, not racist to white people....

Posted by: patty | April 10, 2007 8:10 AM

How is what Imus said any different than what most rappers say about women in their music today??? Where is Rev. Sharpton & Jessie Jackson on that subject???? They marched around at Duke protesting when those students were never found guilty of any wrong doing but, have you ever seen them protest the lastest rap album release???? Have they ever apologized to those Duke students that were hurt by an uncredible witness????

Imus was wrong for saying those things and should be punished, but not fired. I just wish people would all be treated fairly for there wrong doings and thats not what happens when it comes to Imus, Rap music or Duke Lacrosse players!

Posted by: CC | April 10, 2007 8:14 AM

I watch Imus every morning and I love his show. He is one of the only "personalities" on American television today who actually has a soul. Most are mindless puppets just reading the prompter.

He is not a racist! If you know about him at all you know that anyone is game in the world of Imus. He makes remarks that offend or insult people on a daily basis. He pokes where it's sensitive and in my opinion it's to the good of our nation.

Just look at his past. Weigh the good vs bad and regardless of your perspective you will come to the conclusion that he is a good man who is not a racist.

Posted by: Lance Thibodeau | April 10, 2007 8:16 AM

I like cake.

Posted by: Johnny on the Spot | April 10, 2007 8:18 AM

It's amazing how these white men (Mel Gibson, Michael Richards, Don Imus etc.) let these racial words slip out, then when confronted they are immediately apologetic....they are only sorry for themselves, not for the racial slurs, they are just showing their true selves, racism will always live in America, we as black people deal with it every hour, not just everyday. Im saddened that in the year 2007 Im writing about this.

Posted by: Dennis Wooten | April 10, 2007 8:18 AM

Don Imus does satire, and that is dangerous in America. First of all, you have to be intelligent to understand it. Secondly, when taken from its original context satire can sound ... well not funny. I support Don Imus.

Another comment,
Rev. Al Sharpton is a racist. This isn't about protecting the basketball team this is about garnering cheap publicity. Al Sharpton was a preacher at 10, it took him about 15 more years to learn that selling the concept of racial bias is easier to do than selling salvation.

Posted by: Bill Franklin | April 10, 2007 8:19 AM

Imus was stupid and cruel in what he said about the women of Rutgers but he was slimy and repulsive in grovelling and wimping before the perpetrator of the viciously racist Tawana Brawley scam a few years ago. Imus screwed up, Sharpton practiced lying to get a grand jury together for a lie. Racism does not have a color.

Posted by: uffdaron | April 10, 2007 8:19 AM

Imus must go. Enough is enough. Start with Imus. Make him the standard and start cleaning house from there. He is constantly bullying people and making fun of the back race.

Posted by: Gerrity32 | April 10, 2007 8:20 AM

Imus has been like some dead putrid zombie for like years. NBC/MSNBC et all should have buried his rotting corpse long ago and made room for an on-air personality and who doesn't get me nauseous whenever I look at them.

Posted by: Netto | April 10, 2007 8:22 AM

This is for Jack and IMUS. Sorry if I offend any of our Gay gals and boys. This is meant just for Jack and IMUS.
I can tell by your comments you're the type of guys that like to watch and participate in full contact sports like Ultimate fighting and Wrestling. The kind of sports where a man can clime right on top another man's buns and bear hug Him from behind and then bangs Him to the matt! Did your Dads teach you that hillbilly trick? What's the difference in what I just said and what IMUS said? I think what I just said was very offensive and hurtful to many people even though it's directed to just Jack and IMUS.

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 8:26 AM

Oh, please!

If given the choice between taking a daily battery acid enema while listening to the likes of Howard Stern, and Tom Leykis on a beat up radio with bad reception, I would much rather listen to someone like Don Imus.

Why? It's simple. Imus is not a "shock jock." The problem here is quite obvious; some people just don't know how to laugh at themselves. We have races and creeds in this country of all colors that generate cheap affordable copies of negative stereotypes on a wholesale basis. It is this readers opinion that if we are not going to educate ourselves and demand that our youth abandon the practice of perpetuating negative, racial cliches, then we best learn how to laugh at oursleves, and laugh till it hurts.

Therefore, let us laugh at all the nappy headed ho's; the poor remnants of Cheech Marin wannabe's; and how can we forget Uncle Jubal in a greasy, wife beater, undershirt, getting taken away from his mobile home park for stealing cousin Early's Budweiser on FOX TV's "COPS?"

Well, now that I've had a good laugh, please excuse me. I think I'm going to smoke a blount, drink a bottle of tequila, and hop my low rider to the welfare office. While listening to gangstah rap on a boom-boom stereo system that selling weed and designer drugs to affluent, Imus, Stern, and Leykis, listeners bought.
Bien tiendes, bolios?

Posted by: The Voice of Truth | April 10, 2007 8:28 AM

and shock jocks are NOT "opportunists and rabble rousers"??? Am i missing something here?

Posted by: joe, dc | April 10, 2007 8:32 AM

Imus is bright, intelligent and very Rich.Sharpton is bright, intelligent and rich.

There are plenty of snide remarks made on both sides. Give it up guys! Lets keep our heads where they belong right now -on getting the world sit. straightened out so our men and women can stop dying for the biggest racist of them all,Crazy Fox bush, Monster Cheney. Does anyone remember when the president of this country said, if you werent an Evangilist you would not be allowed in Heaven. How racist can you get! Can you imagine what he says not in public!

Posted by: lynn parker | April 10, 2007 8:34 AM

Imus is known by his viewers as being provocative....if you are even mentioned...negatively or positively....it is because you have arrived. He said a really dumb thing about some real winners, but that is what he does...Ask the Clintons...Ask John McCain...The media idiots making a big deal out of this are the same ones talking about Anna Nicole for the last three weeks! Get real. How many of them have raised money for charity - any charity?

Posted by: marie batten | April 10, 2007 8:36 AM

How MSNBC or CBS could think a 2 week suspension would be enough for what Imus said is completely beyond me. HE no only insulted the women of Rutgers racially but sexually also. His sexist dialogue only show what a poor and sad culture we have. Then he said he would like to meet with the families to explain. Imus should explain to all the women in this country why he thinks that our looks should dictate our honor. He should explain to the little girls of America that if you go to college and play a sport some "man" can assume your have low moral stature because of your looks. So Imus has boiled women's collegiate sports to playing a race card. No he insulted all women, of all ages. The women of Tennessee don't have a problem, unless their hair curls and they have a greater moral code that Imus knows Rutgers has. Of course this must mean that Imus has been intimately involved with thr Rutgers players. He knows everything about them and what they do when not on court. Yes old massa Imus knows all about what goes on at Rutgers. Please fire this small, petty, mysogynistic, racist male entity.

Posted by: Kay | April 10, 2007 8:37 AM

Freedom of speech is gone. Don't ever mention 1st Amendment rights again, because Sharpton and Jackson are leading the vanguard of mouth washing. It's ridiculous.

Posted by: Carson | April 10, 2007 8:38 AM

So let me see if I follow this. We now have two N words that white people are not allowed to use?

Even though Stevie Wonder sings "lookin' back on when I was a nappy-headed boy"

I wonder how many black people used and still use the word honky?

But thats OK because white people were never slaves. White people were never oppressed. white people don't know what hard-times are.

I am so sick and tired of this politically correct world I want to throw up.

First of all why is it black Americans don't go after Africa and Egypt seeing how they invented the human trade market?

Why is it black Americans aren't fighting for lands and rights in Africa that were taken from them by Africans and or Egyptians?

Why is it Egypt gets off the hook so easily?

Why is it OK for blacks to make fun of whites but not the other way around?

Bernie Mac said and I qoute "Don't make fun of my people. If I want to make fun of whitey, so what? They owe me that much."

I don't owe Bernie or anyone a single thing. Those who got their 40 acres and a mule are long gone and just because you are born black doesn't give you rights to it.

If you weren't enslaved during the time, shut up and get over it.

My people were slaughter and enslaved too. I don't see England handing my family no animals or land.

Sincerely,
Get a Grip and Get over it

Posted by: Fed-Up | April 10, 2007 8:38 AM

Let me give you an example of the backwardness of our culture: if a black person said what Imus said, there would be no complaint, nothing, just laughs and chuckles at the context of the statement.

Imus said something that pervades rap music, and yet, you don't hear Sharpton denouncing that!

Posted by: Jack | April 10, 2007 8:41 AM

FREEDOM OF SPEECH LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. We blacks listen to that sort of crap everyday from our rappers who has done more harm to the image of black women and black kids in general than IMUS did in his one comment.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 10, 2007 8:41 AM

Breaking News. MSNBC anounced today the guest host while Imus is away is Kramer

Posted by: BillyC | April 10, 2007 8:45 AM

What is so raunchy about nappy headed hos, if you listen to bet and the music, you will hear it all the time. As far as Imus goes. SO WHAT. We do have the right to say what we think or feel. Insensative,it shock radio/cable, turn the channell.
I am so tired of everyone being polictically correct or sensative. That is bull,

Posted by: john pickens | April 10, 2007 8:45 AM

How come nobody mentions the next line Imus said after "...nappy-headed hos"? He said, "...and the girls from Tennessee all look cute". Now, how can this be racial if every one of the girls on the floor for Tennessee at the time of his comments are black?

Posted by: Tom | April 10, 2007 8:47 AM

Let us get down to the facts:
Are these African Americans all coming here from Africa recently? Why aren't we all called English-Americans, French-Americans, Itialian-Americans, etc., even tho we were born in the UNITED STATES? What makes them so differenct to have this distinction? If they want to be treated with respect then be resprectful of themselve.
Jackson and the Rev should listen to their "African Americans" rap, speak, etc. of themselves. They should also not allow all black schools, clubs, broadcasters, TV stations.
YOU CAN NOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS GUYS. If you want to be one of the crowd, be one of the crowd. What has happened to any Caucasian situations such as Miss Amercia, etc? They invade and protest everything but do not act in that manner when it comes to their own "African American" policies.
When they are referred to as Americans as we all are, they then can earn the respect of those that are AMERICANS. When will we all wake up to this situation and rebel against their protests logically and with intent to unite. They must stand on their merits as human beings and not expect special treatments, and then do what they do to separate themselves with their black organizations, etc. They are creating this situation. Once they can think of themselves as regular, normal, Americans maybe then others can do so.
We all have bad hair days and this is not anything special to any one color or race.

Posted by: Bob | April 10, 2007 8:47 AM

Why is it that white people are always racist. Black people do not make racist remarks towards whites. How long until whites learn to respect minorities? There must be something in the genes of caucasions that cause them to be racist. You'll notice that they start the wars too.

Posted by: Denton Dillard | April 10, 2007 8:48 AM

Dear MR. Fed-Up,

The diferrence is the White Man took my fore-father, chained him up,Cut off his nutts, Put Him on a ship, Raped and planted His seed in the slave's wife. And in the end my fore-father still feed me and called me son. Yes, It's ok for Stevie to say Nappy. But the MANN can't say Nappy! Can you dig-it?

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 8:48 AM

Radiohead. Give me a break about Tim Hardaway. He said he hates/can't stand a particular group of people. It's a little different then what Imus said. Imus is a jackass and should be fired, but don't compare that to a comment that was made by a white man in regards to a blatent hate statement made by a black man.

Posted by: Come on Now | April 10, 2007 8:50 AM

I love the hypersensitive state of racial affairs. Anyone remember "White Men Can't Jump?" I'm sure the Washington Post would have covered the, surely outraged, KKK reaction.

Posted by: William Drake | April 10, 2007 8:50 AM

Denton Dillard you are ignorant "Black people do not make racist remarks towards whites"....WOW

Posted by: Come On Now | April 10, 2007 8:51 AM

Whats wrong with nappy? MANY blacks have nappy hair. Hell I got a short weeny. I know it!!! If someone said Whites have short weenys would I kick um off the air NO It's the truth. Live with it

Posted by: Dan | April 10, 2007 8:51 AM

If Imus is a "stone cold racist" he has plenty of company in this world. iT IS A SAD COMMENTARY, BUT IT'S THE REALITY - ROBERTSON AND HIS GANG -BUSH AND ROVE [NAZIES OF THE FIRST ORDER] AND MONSTER CHENEY.hOW ABOUT IT sHARFTON TRY TO BRING THESE RATS OUT OF HIDING AND CONFRONT THEM IN PUBLIC

Posted by: lynn parker | April 10, 2007 8:53 AM

DAN
That still doesn't give Imus the right to call them ho's.

Posted by: Dave | April 10, 2007 8:54 AM

There is nothing wrong with the word Nappy. The problem is due to some historical events that put the MAN on a lock-down from useing words like Nappy, Negro, Monkey, rough Nappy headed girls ... history has shown us that people who tend to use those type of phases also like phases like the sweeter the darker the berry the sweeter the juice and have been known to come back rape us and our Mothers while we watched then to burn down our homes.

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 9:00 AM

Mel Gibson continues to make movies, Michael Richards continues to do stand up comedy, Eminen continues to make CDs, Jimmy Swaggart continues to preach, Rush Limbaugh continues to namecall. Ann Coulter continues to sell books and spew hatred without any apologies for offending people. Then there is Bill O'Riely who has time and again made ugly remarks.. There are many more to add to the list.
What Imus said was deplorable and if I hadn't gotten to know him through the years I have listedned to him I would be calling for his head. I am all to familiar with racitsts and by a leap of faith I say Imus is not. Susan, in her comments, outlined how many ways Imus gives back to people, not only in his time and energy but financially.
Please tell me what these other entertainers have done that even comes close to what Imus does beyond his show in the real world and that includes Al Sharpton.
For the first time I am hearing some constructive dialog concerning what is hurtful and what is humorous. I hope the conversations continue and changes are made. Someone will have to clue Ann and Rush in on this.
I am not supporting Imus today or overlooking this ugly comment. I need to take a break from him. But when he comes back in a couple of weeks I will give him the benefit of the doubt and listen. I am glad he will be given a chance to return.


Posted by: susan | April 10, 2007 9:00 AM

I'm supporting Imus...what a disgrace for blacks to be represented by two useless people like Sharpton and Jackson..both these leaches step on the heads of their own race to advance their importance. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence realizes that Imus didn't say the remark from his heart..now more whites will know what "nappy-head" means.

Posted by: Al | April 10, 2007 9:00 AM

Al Sharpton as the protector of rights? Did Al ever publicly apoligize to the accused white males for the Tawana Broadly fiasco? I don't think so. Jesse Jackson ever apoligize to the black mothers of his illegitimate children? Non payment of child support. What a joke these self appointed black "leaders" are.

Posted by: peter | April 10, 2007 9:01 AM

I don't like Imus - never have never will. I find his schtick offensive and not at all amusing. He is loud, obnoxious, insensitive, and juvenile. That said, I think he has handled this situation very well. He has repeatedly explained and apologized for his gaffe and he not only accepts his suspension, he agrees that it is completely appropriate. I still find his radio persona grating and offensive, but I DO have a great deal more respect for his *personal* integrity.

Posted by: catherine | April 10, 2007 9:02 AM

Let's face it. Freedom of speech isn't freedom of speech anymore. I like Don's show, but I'm not a regular listener, so I missed this one. What he said is offensive to some...happens sometimes, and it's always going to no matter what media you listen to or watch. I can see where some would get bent about that comment. But to jump on a powerful bandwagon and call for him to be removed or fired is just wrong. I admire the Rev. Jackson, and have listened to some of the things he has said. I don't always agree with everything, but I think he's a fine man, with decent intentions.

I'm white, and some of my friends are Black, and Hispanic. We get into debates about things like this all the time in fun, but we all agree with a few things in partiucular.

Stcks & stones will break our bones, but names will never hurt us. And one of the bigger ones is simply put, as long as there are groups out there like the United Negro College Fund, there are going to be issues. Is there a United White person College Fund? This is not meant to be a slam on that group either...they do an awesome job helping out where they can. It's just an example on how we segregate ourselves with titles, or groups. We are sterotyping ourselves when it comes to race & color, or religion. Unfortunately, we do it, and we don't need to. But as long as we seperate ourselves with race, color, religion, or whatever, we are never going to all get along. What Imus said wasn't cool, but he's not the cause of all this mess, he is just a symptom of what most people have done at one point or other... say the wrong thing. I don't see people as black, or white, Hispanic, Chineese, Korean or anything else. I see them as people. I would just love to meet the Rev. Jesse Jackson, or Al Sharpton, even Don Imus in person. Would be a highlight of my life. I'm sure we would have a lot to talk about.

Why don't we knock off all the crap, and get along with each other? I'd love to see that happen....unfortunateley, it's up to us all.

Posted by: Doc Bailey | April 10, 2007 9:10 AM

I am glad to hear that people can understand between biggotry and humor and freedom of speech. What we should really look at is the merit of guys like Sharpton and Jackson, they have no merit and the media takes them serious. The poorer community in this country needs help and there not getting it from guys like Sharpton.
Being a "white Man" as this country says, I would like Sharpton to deffend me in a Civil lawsuit against the producers of White Men can't jump. For I am a "white Man" and I can jump!

Posted by: Let Freedom Ring | April 10, 2007 9:15 AM

What in the world ever happened to the concept of "free speech"? Remember the quote about "I may not agree with what you say but I'll defend to the death, your right to say it" Poor, poor negroes. Don't ever say anything bad about them, even if it's absolutely true....Pity.

Posted by: KD | April 10, 2007 9:15 AM

Imus' "nappy-headed hos" comment is a minor sin compared to his daily incoherent rants against the Bush Administration and the Iraq War. His most astute political commentary being so much name-calling ie "idiots", "jerks" or "liars". I assume his equally astute audience feels the same way since no proof of these charges are ever necessary or demanded.

Posted by: Rick | April 10, 2007 9:18 AM

IMUS SHOULD NOT BE SUSPENDED! he apologized,again,again & again. who is there to stick up for white people?? we are the minority NOW.EVERYTIME something is said against black people,they come out of the wood works yelling & screaming!!!!
IMUS GET HOWARD STERN ON YOUR SHOW HE KNOWS WHAT YOU CAN & CANNOT SAY. he's be thru all that fcc crap!there is always going to be an issue of race,always!

Posted by: renee | April 10, 2007 9:18 AM

My friends all listen to Imus. Every day. And they are both left wing, right wing, black, and white. We all agree on three things. First, if you don't like Imus, turn the dial. This is America. You have a choice not to listen. If we tolerate an American Nazi Party and and American Communist Party, what is your problem with a radio personality saying things with which you disagree? Don't listen. That is your right. Second, Imus is a genuine folk hero who has devoted much of his life and energy to helping others. Just because he makes mistakes from time to time does not logically call for throwing out the baby with the bath water. Third, I am personally appalled by his calling any woman a "Ho," or his making fun of anybody's college aged children on the basis of their appearance or race. Given the fact that I am a Christian, however, and that I believe that God forgives me for all my stupid mistakes, I am happy to extend my own forgiveness to my fellow humans who are also, by nature, imperfect. How about you?

Posted by: Chris Roberts | April 10, 2007 9:21 AM

I got bored and stopped listening to Imus 6-7 years ago. I encourage everyone to do the same. Until I heard about this current controversy I figured he must be dead by now. The worst thing for Imus is not to be scorned, but to be ignored.

Posted by: Tom | April 10, 2007 9:22 AM

Imus has always been a spineless weasel. He gives but can't take. This morning,he called himself a "good person." If nothing else, he should be fired for being delusional. A creep of the first magnitude......

Posted by: rdb | April 10, 2007 9:22 AM

From reading the above comments, It becomes obvious that for many people in this country it is much easier to hate and hold a grudge, than it is to love and forgive. That, indeed is tragic.

Posted by: David | April 10, 2007 9:23 AM

It is my opinion that no individual should have such a limited conversation (whether in radio, television, newspaper, websites, or any other means) that he/she is unable to describe events, situations, or concerns without relating to one's physical, spiritual, racial or mental status.

Posted by: Linda | April 10, 2007 9:24 AM

I do like Imus' show. I have listened for over 15 years faithfully during a ridiculous drive to work. All of the critics, you, Sharpton, Jackson, and this morning Al Roker take a reality check. The "Revs" Sharpton, and Jackson have done more to cause racial division in this country than Imus ever thought of doing. They, neither of them, have ever done anything but seize on opportunities to exploit racial disunion. When they are removed from EVERY news broadcast and apologists stop, maybe, just maybe some healing begin. Let's also stop with the "African-American" nonsense. If the black community is so desprite to be recognized as equal, start being "American"!

Posted by: JCW | April 10, 2007 9:25 AM

Say what you will.....but it's all about the power and MONEY!! Standards and values are for sale and each individual is ultimately responsible for the reflection looking back at them in the mirror.

Posted by: Donald | April 10, 2007 9:25 AM

"You people make me sick" hit the nail on the head. "The greatest culprit in the use of "ho"? Try hip-hop music. Does anybody get the irony of that?"

America has not become a utopia of race relations some idealists home it might be. But the nation has come a long way. Imus has been more then adequately punished for this. Now it would be nice if African-American leaders like Rev. Sharpton would turn their energies against hip-hop music, which is far more destructive to young blacks then the I-man.

Posted by: arthur | April 10, 2007 9:25 AM

They are words....combinations of letters and sounds....Get Real...the only power they have is in the opinion of the INDIVIDUAL who interprets them....AND..."The ignorant find validation in the opinions of others"...

Posted by: Teebo | April 10, 2007 9:26 AM

David,

I hold the MANN's hand all the time. I think we can all get along. But when the MANN calls hard working college sistas "Nappy Headed Hos" I have to draw a line.

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 9:26 AM

I don't listen to HIP-HO, Hillbilly Songs and nor will I listen to IMUS anymore.

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 9:29 AM

There is a double standard, if he was black we wouldn't have made such a big thing about it. Where, and who use those words the most, sorry but it's the same people that are rasing hell now. I can't stand Imus and I hate to defend a DuD, but as long as it's not a curse word I don't care. Part of the problem is when opportunists like Mr. Sharpton and Mr. Jackson get involved. Mr. Sharpton has radio rating to increase, Mr Jackson needs more funds for his pet projects.

Posted by: Rafael | April 10, 2007 9:29 AM

I don't understand why people keep making the comment "It's ok for black people to say the N word but not white people" HECK no it's not ok for white people to say that, are you retarded. NO ONE should use that word. That word was used by white people to degrade and oppress African-Americans for generations, so why would any one argue that it's ok for white people to say it just because some misguided black people say it. And let's not brush off the fact that he called those women hos! WHO CARES IF RAPPERS USE THAT WORD! THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT OK! How dare he insult these women in that manner! Shame on him and anyone that defends him!

Posted by: E Williams | April 10, 2007 9:30 AM

Meanwhile The Black Man Still Won't be Dating them Nappy Headed Hos- He Prefers dem white Babes. Gots tah have da white meat!! he don't want dat Dark Meat. Happy,Happy- Black and Nappy

Posted by: SofaKing Rasist | April 10, 2007 9:30 AM

Imus does indeed have "national exposure on radio." The program is syndicated to about 70 cities (one source says it's 100), and many of them are major markets. In New York it is one of the most popular morning programs; that alone will give you a boatload of listeners. He's also on in Detroit, Philadelphia, and a bunch of other places. And, of course, on MSNBC, which has penetration into 95% of American homes.

Posted by: Rick | April 10, 2007 9:31 AM

Hmm. I thought Imus was dead. When did they bring him back to life?

Seriously, if you are listening to a 66 year-old "shock jock" and think that you are going to hear something interesting, you are sadly mistaken. He is an old bigot--he will never change.

Posted by: Todd | April 10, 2007 9:31 AM

I think Imus is ignorant and racist. When ignorance and racism is outwardly shown, one should not be able to keep their job on the airwaves. He should be fired immediately!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Sylvia | April 10, 2007 9:31 AM

I like Mr. Sharpton. He should be the next President. I'm sure He would be better then Bush!

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 9:32 AM

I hate to be the first to point this out, because it sounds so cynical, but has anyone realized to this point how much Imus' ratings have shot up in the past two days, based on the "contreversy" surrounding this incident? I'm guessing there's a 50% chance that Imus, Bernie, and Chuck got together and brainstormed this whole thing to boost ratings. But, this being America, we have not only "free speech" (you can turn the dial, too) but also "freedom to manipulate others to make more money" as well. I don't agree with Imus' use of language, but why don't we drop this and just stop listening to him if we don't like what he says?

Posted by: John Thomas Sullivan | April 10, 2007 9:36 AM

What Imus said was totally offensive and he should pay the price for his actions. He and his producer Bernard are racists and they prove this on a daily basis. They continue to spew this garbage daily and also continue to invite that idiot Sid Rosenberg to the show. His fame to fortune was his comments about Kylie Minogue and her breast cancer. He was FIRED from the WFAN, and dropped from MSNBC, but low and behold, you can't keep a good racist down. Here he is again, right in the middle of a racial controversy.

Posted by: Fire Him | April 10, 2007 9:37 AM

White meat is good! I like it, but that does'nt mean you can disrepect my Sister.

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 9:37 AM

I just can't believe that people speak that way in public jobs that reach millions of people! Where is the accountability? A two week suspension! Are you kidding me? I think what really happened is that he forgot he was on the radio... Memory loss happens to senior citizens. At 66 years old, he has lost some sharpness obviously. His comments just showed how he thinks of black people. He should be fired and fined. It's just not acceptable to make such comments like that. America shouldn't stand for it. Black people will not stand for it.

Posted by: Travis | April 10, 2007 9:41 AM

If you don't like what Imus is saying there is a very easy solution. CHANGE THE STATION. There are many African American comics who use the race card, namely Chris Rock for one who if they offend me i CHANGE THE STATION. Al sharpton and Jesse Jackson should go back to their respective rocks and stop being the hate mongers that they truly are. Oh and by the way if the African American community wants people to stop using the N word then maybe Mr Rock should stop using it over and over again in his stand up.

Posted by: CHANGE THE STATION | April 10, 2007 9:43 AM

Those of you who are calling for "firing" someone for name-calling are missing a very important point. Who among you has not called a name in this past year (of course it was a "mistake," and "you didn't mean it!") Lighten up. How about doing something positive to enlighten or encourage those less fortunate than you, rather than calling for putting someone out of work, based on "name calling?!"

Posted by: captainjspaulding@yahoo.com | April 10, 2007 9:44 AM

This is a wonderfully written article. Thought-provoking but at the same time not preachy. I don't know about how they broadcast swearing in German TV, but I do know that Marc is not wholly wrong when he points out 'anything goes' with American TV. I could not agree more when he says how we lack public standards or at least the guts and selflessness to enforce them. I understand how it has become so fashionable to say anything, especially the really outrageous thing, so that one is not thought 'stuck-up', but I don't see what we are gaining in the process. American humor relies so so heavily on stereotyping the minorities that anybody with an iota of imagination and no stage-fright can make a name in the electronic media. So what do you do when you have used up most of the cliches? You just think of adding dollops of exaggeration to them. Ah its a lot more work trying to come up with intelligent humor, and there is uncertainty that the sponsors would like that, so lets take the sure-shot well-beaten time-tested track. Mindlessly use more expletives, feed on stereotypes for blacks, hispanics, asian, south-asians, women, priests, husbands, homosexuals, blah blah, thats it. And you have a show!

Well these shows should not go on.

Posted by: Debbie | April 10, 2007 9:44 AM

Mau-mauing (from Tom Wolfe's book Radical Chic and Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers, loosely defined as playing the race card for personal gain) is exactly the right word here, even though I suspect the ignorami will interpret the term as racist and demand Mr. Fisher be fired. Imus has been a radio icon, and an equal-opportunity offender, since the 1970's but before yesterday how many people knew Al Sharpton had his own radio show? Imus was dumb for putting himself in a position where he could be exploited by opportunistic vultures like Reverend Al, (who Imus used to call Fat Albert, any personal revenge motive here?) but the frenzy over his remarks demonstrates once again that our media have too much idle airtime on their hands.

Posted by: bill | April 10, 2007 9:49 AM

This is who Imus is wake this is nothing new. what he said is what he said, the truth is i have heard worst from him and nothing was even done. Now the national black spokesmen Al and jesse are going to speak for me no way. I only care what the team has to say if they meet with him they are the one who were targeted not Al and Jesse.

Posted by: j.d.p | April 10, 2007 9:50 AM

I'm not a fan of Imus. Were he never to utter another word in public, benign or otherwise, I could care less. But I'm a little struck by the irony that the charge to exile him from the airwaves is being led by "Reverend" Al Sharpton. Do we all remember how Reverend Al came to prominence? If cynical race-bating disqualifies a person from a place in the public square, why was Al Sharpton ever admitted in the first place?

Posted by: Paul | April 10, 2007 9:50 AM

Mr. Rock is a cable comic. I refuse to have cable due to what my children might See or hear. Hell IMUS pushed right through my tube landing right in my Child's ears. It set me back a few steps with the teachings I've been doing with my Son. The guy has got to go. I don't want to hear sorry. I don't want my Son calling black girls Nappy Headed Ho's.

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 9:51 AM

What to do about Don Imus?

The First Amendment protects offensive and outrageous speech.
Apart from apologizing, which Don Imus has done several times, he should donate one year salary to a charity that serves black women. He should also volunteer for some community service. Imus represents something very deep in American society. He is like "the canary in the coal mine." Do not destroy him.
My new book Digital Freedom: How Much Can You Handle? is forthcoming from Rowman & Littlefield in August.
ND Batra
Work in progress:
This is the American Way (2009)

Posted by: Dr. ND Batra | April 10, 2007 9:54 AM

Look on the Digg web site on this topic. One news site said that there was widespread condemnation of Imus's remark but reading peoples opinion on this subject suggest otherwise.

Though he may have made a remark that goes to limit, it is no worse than bet and especially some rap music that is outright degrading.

Posted by: Wacer | April 10, 2007 10:00 AM

I don't condone what Imas said, but we need to look both ways before crossing this street. Back in November, Michael Irvin was talking about Cowboy QB Tony Romo and made a racial comment ("his mother must have snuck down to the servant's quarters and got her some"). ESPN/ABC ignored the remark and it was quickly swept under the rug. Irvin's only reply was "that's locker room talk". No apology, no remorse. Did he get suspended? No. With people like Dusty Baker (blacks are better baseball players than whites), Charles Barkley (I hate white people)and the mayors of both New Orleans (this is a chocolate city) and Philly (the brothers and sisters are running the city) making racial slurs and the media ignoring it, it will continue to happen. A reporter (like Imas) needs to be disciplined, but so do all the other offenders who use thier position to make demeaning remarks.

Posted by: Denny | April 10, 2007 10:00 AM

How many times have I over heard one African American comment on another's "nappy head..etc." seems like a case of I can say it but you can't double standard....it may notbe "right", but it's reality.

Posted by: R.D | April 10, 2007 10:03 AM

A venerated man of long ago said:
"Let him that is without sin, cast the first stone."
Sharpton, Jackson and their ilk must either
be without sin or they must be self-deceived! Character doesn't count with
these self-appointed, stone-throwing, loud mouths.
Martin Luther King, Jr said character was
the main thing. Why do these agitators ignore Dr. King's legacy?
Because it doesn't serve their self-serving
egos that "drive" a power base in the black community!
LONG LIVE MLK!


Posted by: Roland R Jones | April 10, 2007 10:08 AM

Due to historical events I try to look only one way while crossing the street. That's at the MANN!

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 10:08 AM

Although the words he used to describe the women from the Rutgers basketball team, I am surprised no one else is bringing up what he said about the British sailors on the day they were released, he called them cowards for confessing. I would like to see how he would have handled that situation. Imus is a tool and the more the media pays attention to him, the more his ratings go up. I really hope the families of the Rutgers basketball team don't meet with him, they dodn't need his "charity."

Posted by: ChrisMc | April 10, 2007 10:08 AM

Points can be made without using degrading terms. He showed how truly ignorant he is. I don't care about his ratings or about who else he has offended. If a black talk show host made a nasty remark like that about white women his show would be cancelled without a doubt. Television/radio broadcasters can make valid points without calling names. I don't care if hip hop artist are using the terms, they are degrading and IMUS knows the term is degrading that's why he used the term. I believe he said it intentionally and its all to boost his ratings. But what if OPRAH, MONTEL, or ELLEN just spent their shows being ignorant and calling names, this country would be severely divided. There is no place for ignorance in TV. There is telling it like it is and there is IGNORANCE. His remark was just ignorant and anyone who agrees with what he said is also IGNORANT. And that's why we will always be divided because ignorant people will always be among us. For a comment like that to come out of his mouth when these are very educated and highly respected women says that he spoke what was in his heart. He said how he feels about black women no matter what there social or economic status. He has no respect for black women. Yes, he had a right to say it (free speech) but it doesn't take away the hurt he caused. Do black women feel they are "nappy headed hos"? No. But its unsettling hearing somone with his status talk about us in this way. So I'm amazed (not really) at how we think its ok to belittle people in the media. This doesn't just hurt the self esteem of black women but little black girls as well. All in all firing him would show that we as Americans will not tolerate verbal abuse in TV/Radio. I know that he will only get a slap on the wrist because the money he's making MSNBC and NBC is more important than what he said and the impact of what he said.

Posted by: B4Real | April 10, 2007 10:12 AM

What Imus said is very wrong, and such thing should not be said on air, period. Having said that, the reaction black community is showing is expected. However, I believe that they are being hypocrites. Miss Jones in the morning made a whole rap about dying "chinks" in the tsunami, comparing this to what Imus said is like heaven and earth difference. One of her show cohost believed that it was inappropriate but she aired it anyways because she thought it was funny. They laughed while playing it. I mean if you want people to stop being racists, you need to stop being racists yourself. Don't be a hypocrite. Don't allow such thing to happen in your own community and point fingers when someone outside the community make racial slurs.

Posted by: Dao | April 10, 2007 10:14 AM

We should paint IMUS and His fellow Brothers black. Then put them in a time machine sending them to the shores of Africa just as the MANN begans to dock His Slave capturing Ships. Let's see how long these guys can run before losing thier nutts.

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 10:15 AM

I don't think what Imus said was in any way right but I still can't help but wonder why on shows like chappell show(which I like) or in living color or BET they are just as racist as imus or any other shock jock in america. Where are all the white people protesting on that issue?There not. It's for entertainment. I don't see a white entertainment tv station. I guess it there was such a thing Al sharpten would get a hold of a media source and start a protest. Pretty sad really.

Posted by: Johnny | April 10, 2007 10:17 AM

IT IS UNACCEPTABLE. I WATCH HIS SHOW A FEW TIMES A WEEK AN ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WAS PREETY STRAIGHT FORWARD BUT DANG, WAS THAT A CURVE BALL OR A GYRO ? IMUS HAS BEEN ON THAT PLATFORM FOR AWHILE IT WOULD SEEM LIKE HE WOULD KNOW BETTER. I FEEL BETRAYED BECAUSE I WATCHED HIM AND THIS IS HOW HE FEELS ABOUT US, "NAPPYHAED HOES". JESUS, WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO. DID HE HAVE A HANGOVER OR DID HE HAVE A BET WITH SOMEONE THAT HE HAD THE SCROTUM TO SAY THAT [EXPLETIVE].THERE IS NO ROOM IN THE WORLD FOR THAT KIND OF TALK LET ALONE THINKING OF THAT SORT. RIGHT, YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH BUT WHEN YOU'RE ON A PLATFORM OF ANYKIND WE CANNOT ABUSE THAT RIGHT(UNLESS YOU'RE ON SOME KIND OF RADICAL PLATFORM). THE WORLD GOES FORWARD NOT BACKWARD. AS TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES SO DOES THE HUMAN RACE. ME, AS ONE PERSON IN THIS GLOBE, BELIEVE THAT IT IS TIME FOR MR.IMUS TO STEP DOWN FROM THE PLATFORM. FOR EVERY ACTION THERE IS A REACTION, BE IT BE A POSITIVE OR A NEGATIVE AN IN THIS CASE IT IS A NEGATIVE. RIPPLE AFFECT AND DOMINOE AFFECT IN THE NEGATIVE.

Posted by: JDBOE | April 10, 2007 10:18 AM

Whomever would call anyone out of there rightful name, black or white needs to check themselves. I have read a lot of comments on this page and so many people are classifying an entire race. This was an individual comment. He will have to understand there is always consequences for what you say. Any one who wants to abuse freedom of speech WILL recieve no mercy from the offended. This issue has more to do with RESPECT than anything else. Personally, if Imus disrespected me or anyone I loved would have to deal with a power unimaginable.

Posted by: a concerned citizen | April 10, 2007 10:21 AM

The whole Orwellian "hate speech" thing is chilling. It seems that Al Sharpton does all of the thinking for quite a few people. So many people who have never listened to Imus are calling for his firing.

Imus will benefit greatly from all of this publicity, as will the nappy-headed publicity ho Al Sharpton.

Posted by: Timmo | April 10, 2007 10:21 AM

Of course Sharpton would think Imus's apology is not enough!! He would be out of the spotlight too quick!!!! I have an idea instead of concentrating on the spotlight why don't YOU try to repair the damage YOU make in our world!! Someone should sniper that IDIOT!! OH and you GO IMUS I love you for what you DO in our world!

Posted by: INFURIATED! | April 10, 2007 10:22 AM

Would someone please show me where the Constitution protects any group's right not to be offended? Imagine the outrage if "White Men Can't Jump" had been titled "Black Men Can't Swim". Why is it that black people (yes, "black" several of my friends of color object to the term "African-American on the grounds they're not from Africa) presume to characterize "white people" as a homogeneous, undifferentiated group but if blacks are similarly characterized then it's racist? I would never presume to speak for "whites" as if we all share the same thoughts and opinions yet the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons of the world do so on behalf of blacks with impunity. News flash: if you're black everything bad that happens to you isn't because you're black and some over-40 white person has it out for you. If you believe you are not personally responsible for anything negative that occurs then you must also conclude you aren't personally responsible for the good. Is any serious person going to suggest there isn't a sizable population of blacks who have succeeded on their merits? If the police aren't there in ten seconds or a restaurant delivers bad service must it be race related? Nonsense: people of all backgrounds have those experiences. Fortunately, we've reached a point where Imus' comments make him look like an idiot but when black leaders and the national press give idiotic comments the same credence as a national policy speech then something is seriously wrong. So don't listen to Imus if he offends you, don't give foolish comments a wider forum and get on with life whether you're black, white or a lttle, green man from Mars.

Posted by: Leigh | April 10, 2007 10:23 AM

A BIG Amen Leigh!!!

Posted by: INFURIATED! | April 10, 2007 10:25 AM

The inability to create basic sentences in Imus' critic's posts above is telling. I'm glad to see that the reverend Jesse Jackson can take a break from extramarital sex long enough to harangue another white devil.

Posted by: Fuzzy | April 10, 2007 10:27 AM

What is with all of you who are using those silly pseudonyms instead of owning your comments? Every "famous" guy on the planet is using their real names in this discussion. Jesse Jackson isn't calling himself "firetheguy." Why are you hiding behind "funny" titles instead of signing your opinions? By the way, Imus has always been Imus, and always will be. If you don't like him, guess what? This is America. Change the station. That is your right, along with the right to say whatever it is that YOU think about blacks, gays, women, or whatever group you do or do not belong to. God bless America, if for only this one right, let alone all the other wonderful perks it offers!

Posted by: drmichaeljmichaels3rd@yahoo.com | April 10, 2007 10:31 AM

the best solution is for Imus to become a Rutger Women Basketball season ticket holder for the rest of his LIFE and attend EVERY game, in the front row.

Posted by: mm | April 10, 2007 10:35 AM

We don't need to worry about terrorists destroying the US. Between our collective short-sightedness, eagerness to point the finger at other wrongs when someone screws up, overreliance on saturation media coverage and our special brand of the "us versus them" mentality, we're doing a damn good job of doing ourselves in.

Posted by: dirrtysw | April 10, 2007 10:36 AM

The reaction to the remarks made by Don Imus, (some of the posts here are further evidence)illustrate this sense of entitlement that many white people have where others are concerned. For many, it is more of an outrage that someone suggests he be fired than the remarks themselves. The tone is as follows:"what was said was wrong, but we can't ruin a decent white man because black people are too sensitive" It reminds me of when Fuzzy Zoeller made his racist comments about Tiger after he'd won the Masters' in '97. Many white players on tour were critical of Tiger beacause he didn't "call Fuzzy". The suggestion is that somehow Zoeller was "entitled" not to have to live with his actions without Tiger reaching out to him somehow in some gesture of forgiveness or absolution. Tiger didn't owe Fuzzy Zoeller anything then, and the Rutgers women's team (as Imus himself said) doesn't owe Don Imus anything now.
Imus should be fired so that, if nothing else, the message begin to be sent that this is no longer the America of 1950. This is all of our country. None of us is entitled to entertain ourselves by insulting others, without repercussion.

Posted by: Tony | April 10, 2007 10:38 AM

Who says that Sharpton and Jackson are NOT saying how bad rap music is?

They say that all the time. But you all are obviously not paying attention when they do.

But just so you all know...60-70% of rap is purchased by WHITE KIDS.

But what any of that has to do with what Imus said is beyond me other than the usual straw-man thing. Good try but rap music is not what is up for debate today.

The term 'nappy' is not a problem. It is simply an adjective. The problem is the word 'ho' being used to describe a group of teenage/early twenty-something COLLEGE students who happen to play basketball as well.

And let it be said again...Freedom of Speech does NOT apply to your place of work. All it means is the gov't won't throw you in jail. People make it sound like some union by-law...wake up.

Posted by: shocked dad | April 10, 2007 10:45 AM

I DONT HIDE. wilsonjsr@hotmail.com

Posted by: JDBOE | April 10, 2007 10:49 AM

Here we have young ladies, at the top of their game doing what they should have been doing and on a national show the guy calls them Nappy-Headed Ho's. Not criminal, no bad behavior.

This was not a comedy show or a standup comedian. Believe me much worst is said by some white comics at their show. And they have the right to say whatever they want at those shows. It is not about Chirs Rock either. Or a movie entitled White men can not jump. It is about MSNBC and CBS identifying with the likes of Don Imus. they hold themselves up as repitable institutions. This is a choice they have to make.
This is the choice that their advertisers have to make. I hope he gets fired.

If he had called them Cheap little Jew Ho's , he would have been gone in a day. Guess who really owns the airwaves!!!!!

In an ideal world, many things can occur. We do not live in an ideal world. We live in a world were there was Slavery and the Holecaust and many other terrible historical events that impact how we move forward.

Posted by: Silver Spring, MD | April 10, 2007 10:49 AM

drink the coolaid and save the world from evil people like imus? we seem to be headed for an america not unlike the island portrayed in the tv show the prisoner. all americans equally force fed a diet of right thinking words at all times. turn the page back and change the players and witness book burnings. fine tune the idea and ban mark twain. irony in that the wide brush paints both the canvas and the painter leaving us kind of like a vanilla society in the end. the dumping on imus pertaining to his remarks ripping a basketball team makes me think this is more about control and leadership that has little else to go on . that ripping sound has gone on for years and has been pointed at nearly every aspect of modern life. I listened to imus since he got yelled at for asking ya naked?(1971 or 2) not a devout fan as he gets me p----ed off with remarks that run counter to mine.on the other hand just go out and listen to most of free radio and you become mind numbed from the sameness. i beleive there are racist on both sides of the fence that take comfort in this whole situation using it to their own ends.

Posted by: easter week jack | April 10, 2007 10:50 AM

I have an easy fix for this problem.

I don't diss your Sister. You don't diss mine.

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 10:56 AM

Top 10 Reasons there are no black NASCAR drivers:
10. Have to sit up straight while driving.
9. Pistol won't stay under front seat.
8. Engine noise drowns out the rap music.
7. Pit crew can't work on car while holding up pants at the same time.
6. They keep trying to carjack Dale Earnhart, Jr.
5. Police cars on track interfere with race.
4. No passenger seat for the Ho.
3. No Cadillacs approved for competition.
2. When they crash, they bail out and run.
1. They can't wear their helmets sideways.

Posted by: Top Ten | April 10, 2007 11:04 AM

"Have they ever apologized to those Duke students that were hurt by an uncredible witness????"

Just like most feel O.J. did it, even though he got off. I feel like The "Duke Boys" are just as guilty. So when we aplogize to O.J. then we'll apologize to The "Duke Boys"...They got over. Let's not play this game please...

Posted by: Melvin | April 10, 2007 11:06 AM

After reading the blog and most (but honestly not all) of the posts it appears there is a lot of hate out there on both sides of the issue.

Is there an easy answer that doesn't offend somebody and everybody can agree on?

Probably not, because the attitude seems to be "I am right, You are wrong and you have to admit it".

It kind of reminds me of the road sign "YIELD". Lots of people seem to take that as a person offront - "Who ME? Why should I YIELD to you?"

Try this: If the language is offensive to some it should be banned from the airwaves. Banned so that NOBODY can use it. Otherwise, everybody can use it.

Is this denying somebody Freedom of Speach? They will claim that. But try yelling "FIRE" in a crowded movie theater and see what happens. That is already illegal, for good reason. Freedom of Speach has limits, just like everything else we do.

My Dad used to tell me: We have the right to make a fist and swing it around whenever and wherever we please. But that right ends just before the next persons nose.

Posted by: SoMD | April 10, 2007 11:08 AM

Jimmie is a real funny guy. He should replace Imus.

Posted by: Melvin | April 10, 2007 11:09 AM

You think I'm funny but I'm not jokeing
Any way, Thanks.

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 11:13 AM

u got to be kidding me, imus' show is entertainment not the NEWS, the man is not allowed to joke? come on, suck it up rutgers! i live down the street from you. wat if imus was speaking the truth? you people r making too much of this. picketing at nbc? come on someone do something else now so they can go picket their. rev.sharpton on his show looked at imus like he could kill imus,wats up with that? jackson goooooo hoooooome!

Posted by: colleen | April 10, 2007 11:15 AM

Dear Melvin,
Where have YOU been??? Did you not watch the civil suit against OJ????? If anyone should apologise it should be OJ. Maybe you are stuck in your own oj world? Would you be comfortable spending the night with him? lol

Posted by: lisa speigner | April 10, 2007 11:16 AM

Re: top ten.

Ever heard of Wendell Scott? Probably not.

http://www.legendsofnascar.com/Wendell_Scott.htm

Willy T Ribbs has been on the circuit in various forms since 1986.

http://www.thehistorymakers.com/biography/biography.asp?bioindex=169&category=sportsMakers

Both of these drivers could never get a big sponsor..wonder why?

Just keeping it real for you.

Posted by: shocked dad | April 10, 2007 11:17 AM

Some wounds take years, maybe centuries to heal. Live with the knowledge of the atrocities of the past and never EVER allow them to happen again, but let go of the hatred and anger because as long as there is hatred, the fire still burns and people like Imus will add fuel to that fire.

Posted by: David | April 10, 2007 11:18 AM

This is for the guy with the top 10 black jokes.

1. When your Dad stops bear hugging you, You should come down from those Hills for a moment. This is a serious blog site.

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 11:19 AM

Don Imus is the mouth of America. He says what every WASP wants to say publicly, but can't. His corporate daddies will not fire him because he makes them too much money. It doesn't make a difference if you're black our white, an ignorant gangsta rapper or a whacked out radio talking head, when it comes to degrading nonwhite people and women, its okay.

But remember what old mamma used to say:
What goes around,.............

Posted by: Que12a81 | April 10, 2007 11:19 AM

"u got to be kidding me, imus' show is entertainment not the NEWS, the man is not allowed to joke? come on, suck it up rutgers!"

Every joke ain't funny.

Posted by: Melvin | April 10, 2007 11:22 AM

Dear Melvin,
Where have YOU been??? Did you not watch the civil suit against OJ????? If anyone should apologise it should be OJ. Maybe you are stuck in your own oj world? Would you be comfortable spending the night with him? lol

As safe as i would with the "Duke Boys"...LOL!!!

Posted by: Melvin | April 10, 2007 11:23 AM

Imus gets fired & there will be law suits!
rutgers r going after ur money,Imus....watch out!
this press conference should not have been done,rutgers just made this whole thing worse. just let it go. geezzzzzzz this coach acts like the all been killed.if its so embrassing why put each & eveyone of those girls faces on camera? if i was one i would just go hide.til the black community lets it die down(which they won't)

Posted by: colleen | April 10, 2007 11:25 AM

Marc wrote ... I'm always amused to hear the shock from prominent politicians and journalists in Washington when they learn how small the Imus audience really is. But they're right to be shocked because Imus is influential way out of proportion to his low ratings.

I'm shocked too, better round up the usual suspects.

I don't listen to Imus, I don't know anyone who does and asking around the office (here in the DC area) uncovered zero listeners. It reminds me of a guest on the Diane Rehm show a few days ago who was discussing the Alberto Gonzales situation and she mentioned the "growing outrage in the country" over the handling of the lawyer firings.

Again I looked and I looked and am yet to see much evidence of this outrage.

I'd like to suggest to the media/political types that the world does revolve around their particular position de jour.

Posted by: TonyR | April 10, 2007 11:29 AM

"til the black community lets it die down(which they won't)..."

Collen,
Don't we let everything go. Let's be honest. Are we really taken seriously?

Posted by: Melvin | April 10, 2007 11:29 AM

Que12-

"What every WASP wants to say but can't"? Wow, so we're all racist but some of us are hypocrites as well because if we claim to be offended by Imus and others who make similar remarks then we're only pretending? Tough to have any dialogue if one side assumes it knows the heart and mind of the other; words and deeds to the contrary notwithstanding.

Posted by: Leigh | April 10, 2007 11:36 AM

"White men can't jump" was written and directed by a WHITE man. Get a better analogy people!

Posted by: linda | April 10, 2007 11:44 AM

The biggest problem is that we are all too quick to lump people together.

I am black but Melvin doesn't speak for me.

I am sure that the views of some of the posters here do not reflect the views of all white people as well.

We are dealing with individuals here.

Some guy said something about judging people not by their skin but the content of their character. Forgot who he was...

You can tell a fair amount about a person's character by their statements and actions.

Using this as a guide, Imus has told us plenty.

He is old and inflexible. His time has passed.

Posted by: shocked dad | April 10, 2007 11:44 AM

I think Imus honestly was attempting to be funny. He ended up being offensive. He gets paid to be as shocking as he can. They pay him to push it. And when you are given that much rope you just might hang yourself (Please don't take that out of context). I don't think all white people are racist. And I am a black man. Racism is real. Incidents like this just open up the discussion about the pink elephant in the room.

Posted by: Melvin | April 10, 2007 11:44 AM

"I am black but Melvin doesn't speak for me..."

Exactly. I respect that. We all have the right to our own position. I love to exchange of ideas based on difference of opinion. It gets real boring when we all agree.

"The man who knows something, knows he knows nothing at all"...

Posted by: Melvin | April 10, 2007 11:51 AM

I'm OUTRAGED, I think, well maybe, prolly, well you know I'm not really outraged,,just kiddin', I think the great Al sharpton should get a life and I think Imus should be dropped off in S.E.- D.C. for an evening of fun with the offended bros. of our capital and then I think Imus should be sent to comedy classes. He only thinks he's funny. Anyone out there never said anything offensive to someone????

Posted by: Dave | April 10, 2007 11:52 AM

"Dear MR. Fed-Up,

The diferrence is the White Man took my fore-father, chained him up,Cut off his nutts, Put Him on a ship, Raped and planted His seed in the slave's wife. And in the end my fore-father still feed me and called me son. Yes, It's ok for Stevie to say Nappy. But the MANN can't say Nappy! Can you dig-it?

Posted by: Jimmie | April 10, 2007 08:48 AM"

Hey Jimmie,
No I can't dig-it. And as soon as you stop shoveling it we can all get on with our lives.

Like I said, get over it. Move on. better men and women than all of us have.

:roll:

Posted by: Fed-Up | April 10, 2007 11:53 AM

If I want to see Black Women demeaned all I have to do is watch the stand-up comics on BET.

It always amazes me how so many people like many posters above are "outraged" at this, or books, TV shows, etc., without having read the book or watched the show. If you're going to be outraged, you should know something about what you're posting first.

To me it is extremely disappointing how during the Easter Season the Reverends Sharpton and Jackson, men of God, totally ignore the wisdom of Forgiveness and Redemption. They have the opportunity to shape the Imus program to be more positive towards African-Americans, but all they can do is call for firing or boycotts.

The Opportunists are missing an opportunity.

Hasn't the Rev. Jackson become little more than a "power for power's sake" cartoon.

The visible power structure is still looking outside, when there are so many significant problems inside. Maybe it's because they don't want to address them.

I'd like to hear Bill Cosby's take on this.

Posted by: C DC | April 10, 2007 11:57 AM

What is so ironic about this is that Clear Channel, a big Bush/Republican campaign donor, owns most these radio stations with the raunchy programs, and then the Bush Administration and it's ditto head supports have the gall to complain about the all the raunch there is in the media when in fact they are the ones actually putting this scrap over the airwaves.

Posted by: dapper dan | April 10, 2007 11:59 AM

"He who feels it, knows it" - Bob Marley

I could never tell a woman who has been raped to get over it. I could never tell the Jews to get over it (They seem to be the only ones anybody respect for not getting over it), or the Native Americans indians to get over it. So you can sit there and say "GET OVER IT"!!! But that's not your call if you are not of that group.

Posted by: Melvin | April 10, 2007 12:02 PM

As a famous negro orator once said " can't we all just get along". He was forgiving and he was beaten and scorned.

Posted by: Dave | April 10, 2007 12:09 PM

Imus was just being the a**hole he*s always been. The fact he gets paid very well to be an a**hole and many people drop everything in their boring lives to listen to his crap is a sad commentary on our society.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 10, 2007 12:13 PM

The thing is...I am not going to say that Jackson and Sharpton are not occasionally opportunists.

They are.

But even a broken clock is right twice a day.

And guess what time it is?

Again with the BET thing...where do you people get the idea that "black leaders" (hate that term, as if there are "white leaders" and "hispanic leaders") and black people in general are not protesting against BET rap music. Do a google search. There is no excuse for the level of fact checking going on here.

You are at a computer right now. Use the thing.

Posted by: shocked dad | April 10, 2007 12:13 PM

For all you white bashers, just remember that there have been a lot of whites who have risked everything to help their fellow man be it black,yellow, brown etc.Try not to lump all of us in one pile. If it weren't for blacks there wouldn't have been any slaves rounded up in Africa and if it weren't for whites there wouldn't have been any blacks emancipated.

Posted by: Dave | April 10, 2007 12:21 PM

I have read a lot of the comment on this page and it seem that site of the issue has been lost. Its not about Al Shapton or Jessie Jackson or even the protest people are starting, he called a group of college women (teenagers and early twenty something's) that he does not know or have never met, to his own admission, HOS. Not only that, it pointed out the blacks on the team by the term nappy headed. Now really people how many white people have been called nappy headed. Exactly!

The facts remain that the FCC should not allow this to happen by him or anyone else. He is not sorry for what he said, the truth is, he was sorry for the amount of attention it receive on Wednesday and Thursday for if he really felt it was wrong or a big issue he would have said something then.

If you feel it is alright for him to say this then support him. He should stick by his guns and say nappy headed hos everyday, but the fact of the matter is it is wrong and leaves the doorway open for people like Jack (April 9, 2007 9:04 pm) to hit the air waves and let this garbage go and influence the minds of thousands of people.

I see a lot of people here have made references to rappers and rap music to say "they say it so why can't we". I haven't heard the term used on BET, MTV, or VH1 in a video. First, why would you want to say things like that? Do you know any "N" words or hos? If so express yourself. A lot of rap music, believe it or not, come from things these people have experiences. Also for Imus to refer to that is really a cop out. Does anyone here think this 66 year old white American listen to rap music or watch BET videos when he gets off work and that is where he got the term nappy head from? Please be for real, and call a duck a duck when it quacks, not for your own sake but for the sake of this country.

Posted by: STUD | April 10, 2007 12:22 PM

You sayin' there are no nappy headed whites. Stop at any record store. and I don't think he isolated any one particular player. He said the team was nappy headed , coach and all.

Posted by: Dave | April 10, 2007 12:25 PM

Hey Melvin,

Who exactly enslaved you?

Posted by: John | April 10, 2007 12:28 PM

Why is it OK for blacks to call their women 'hos' but it's racist if white people do it? Does the term 'double standard' sound familiar? If you took all the racial jokes away from Chris Rock, Richard Pryor, or anyone on BET, they'd be pretty dull. Again -- why can blacks do it but it's racist if whites do it?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 10, 2007 12:28 PM

So we get rid of Imus then who will speak truth to power? Who will challenge the vaccine makers who poisined so many kids with mercury? Howard Stern? No he is too busy obsessing with strippers. Who will speak on behalf of the kids with autism? Brian Williams? No, he is too busy focusing on a horse race for a presidential election that is one year away. Who was speaking the truth about Iraq before it was fashionable? Tim Russert? No he was too busy being waterboy for the administration with his nose up their asses and spending his free time keeping his kid at Boston College and out of Iraq while the burden falls on the poeple who arent so connected. Who spoke on behalf of our disabled war veterans? The Republicans sure say they support the troops but it was Imus who revealed the scandal of the veteran's hospital.

Hey Imus screwed up. Imus is a flawed human.

The world is better because of him.

Posted by: John S | April 10, 2007 12:29 PM

I am so sick and tired of white people thinking that it is okay to say what they want to say about black people and then they feel that all they have to do is apologize and that should make it okay.
Well, boo hoo, it doesn't. It seems that we are regressing back to the days of slavery. It's as though anything can be done or said to us, about us and we are just expected to take it. God doesn't like ugly and believe me he is watching and biding his time. So to all the evildoers BEWARE!

Posted by: Fed Up | April 10, 2007 12:30 PM

REPLY..John S
For all the good he has done this still is not right and leaves the a crack in the door for something more outlandish to be said. O.K. lets just say the Bill Gates give millions of dollars to charities a year no, no a month and one day he kills to homeless people because they got to close to him or something. His good is his good but it doesn't in anyway excuse the bad thing that was done.

Posted by: STUD | April 10, 2007 12:38 PM

Imus is so freaking old I'm surprised he didn't say the Tennessee team was a bunch of "high yellows."

Posted by: Loudounian | April 10, 2007 12:39 PM

Revs. Sharpton and Jackson are issues because they are not virgins in the area of saying outrageous things. Their motives in leading the charge can be questioned. They are "boys who cried wolf." We never know when their indignation is from the heart, or just another chance to get public attention.

I give them the benefit of the doubt. I can't know what they truly feel.

We have to sort that out for ourselves, but like it or not, they are part of the story.

I also give Imus the benefit of the doubt; he has said that he is sorry and been humiliated, wants to meet with the Rutgers team to apologize and doesn't expect that he will get forgiveness from them; and that if he still has a show, he'll try to make it better in this area.

Years ago he was chastened for stereotyping Blacks, and pledged that he would stop it. In spite of what Clarence Paige keeps saying, it was stopped on the show. The Rutgers comment was rare and untypical. Outrageous doesn't automatically qualify as racist.

Fedup - If you have a direct line to God and know what God likes and doesn't like, the rest of us could benefit from you providing it.

Posted by: C DC | April 10, 2007 12:45 PM

Reply...Loudounian
In a way it was said when the producer said it was the jiggaboo's vs. the wannabee's in reference to Spike Lee's movie Do the Right Thing.

Posted by: STUD | April 10, 2007 12:46 PM

It seems to me the only person made to look bad by Imus' comments is Imus. When one chooses to resort to stereotypes, derogatory language or profanity the target isn't the huliliated party - it's the speaker. The question isn't one of "getting over it" but instead rising above it. I suspect most people find such statements ridiculous whether made about blacks, women, Jews, Muslims or old white guys. Only the targeted group can give power to the statements. This Imus flap is like barking back at a mad dog.

Posted by: Leigh | April 10, 2007 12:50 PM

STUD: good point. Of course, Bernard McGuirk has even less leeway than Imus.

But hey, Spike Lee can say whatever he wants.

In any event, can we all agree that Tennessee's Candace Parker is pretty hot? I'd like to drive the lane on her.

Posted by: Loudounian | April 10, 2007 12:59 PM

Case number xyz123: Imus vs Gibson.
Imus was sober. He had millions of listeners. He allegedly made a racial remark, millions of people heard him ...
Gibson was drunk. He had 1 listener. Gibson made a critical remark at the time Israel bombed Lebanon. The sole listener told his people. The whole village heard him ...

Posted by: larry | April 10, 2007 1:05 PM

What Imus said was deplorable and whatever happens to him happens. I feel no sympathy.

Not all Blacks consider themselves "African Americans". I don't know whose idea that term was, but I've never been to Africa and a great deal of my heritage is American Indian.

The outrage over the use of such terms in hip hop should not be laid at the feet of just the artists. I know several artists who say they can't get a record produced without the violence etc. thanks to many White record execs.

Stop trying to compare Imus to Sharpton, Jackson or anyone else. Nothing in our outrageous society is just and the comparisons will just keep going and going and going...

Posted by: Sick & tired of being sick & tired | April 10, 2007 1:16 PM

Sharpton = Faker
Imus = Loser

Posted by: Big Snit | April 10, 2007 1:41 PM

A lot of people seem to be hung up on the particular language Imus used, and argue that, since black people use the same terms, there's an unfair double standard at play. I don't buy it; the problem isn't the language he used, but what that language means. Who here thinks that if Imus had called Rutgers "a bunch of prostitutes," for example, that the statement wouldn't have been insulting?

Posted by: quaker | April 10, 2007 1:41 PM

"Hey Melvin,

Who exactly enslaved you?..."

OK now this is a conversation that could take all day. That's like asking a Jewish Child who exactly put "you" in the gas chamber? What is the point of the question. And I didn't say anything about myself or anyone else in slavery. Try that one with someone else please.

Posted by: Melvin | April 10, 2007 1:51 PM

Jeez. . . in no particular order (a) hos is not a synonym for prostitute, it's ghetto slang for a young female; (b) the 1st Amendment is not at issue here, but fealty to its principles -- open, unfettered debate and a right to free expression without regard to its effect on the speaker -- is; (c) Al Sharpton is a racial demogogue, a proven liar and a snitch, so how his opinion can carry any weight is beyond me; (d) the RU women are probably fine, intelligent, upstanding young women, but their appearances clash with the standard of traditional femininity, which is at base what Imus inartfully agreed with, using language that would not raise an eyebrow in the neighborhoods of the very people most offended. You want to tell me Michael Wilbon never used the word ho with his boys? Or he always pulls up any of his remaining black friends who might use the word? Puhleeze. Keep it real, yo. Finally, as someone noted in another article's comments, this all happened over easter weekend, spanning Good Friday and Easter Monday. Has any one of these professed Christians uttered any sentiments of forgiveness, for a man who -- however inappropriately -- used language that is commonly used without protest or objection every motherloving day, in a misguided attempt at humor? Imus is old, his act is largely tired, but he is not a hypocrite, and that's better than his critics can say. And by the way, if you want to crucify every white person -- not every person, just every WHITE person -- who mocks blacks within his heart, if not openly, you will have to cut down a whole, whole lot of trees. And knee-jerk race card playing is even more tired than Imus' act.

Posted by: RL | April 10, 2007 2:38 PM

There's something hypocritical about this article. The Washington Post owns Newsweek, which supplies a number of the Don Imus regulars from Howard Fineman to Jon Meacham.

Posted by: Louis Proyect | April 10, 2007 2:42 PM

"hos is not a synonym for prostitute, it's ghetto slang for a young female..."

So i can call my daughter a Ho? Not sure about that. It's ghetto slang. But it's meant to be disrespectful. I think that part was missing from your statement. You made some very good points though.

Posted by: Melvin | April 10, 2007 2:45 PM

One other thing -- Colin Cowherd, an ESPN host, orchestrated a denial of service attack on a website he wanted to silence. DOS is a crime, not to mention completely contrary to the public trust of the ariwaves and the spirit of the First Amendment. Why no outrage over him? For that matter, where's the US Atty looking into a prosecution? Guess when you're in bed with ESPN, you learn to look the other way. The corporate media incest that is common today, along with an increasing laziness among reporters and wholesale cuts in newspaper staffs, is a whole lot more harmful to the open dissemination in information than the hurt feelings of a successful college basketball team. We're headed for a future where no one SAYS anything controversial for fear of public condemnation by an increasingly narrow minded populace, and what's less controversial than the official government/corporate line?

Posted by: RL | April 10, 2007 2:46 PM

Melvin, you're right, it is disrespectful. And that is the problem and the issue. We have disrespected our women for generations. We have collectively abandoned them when they have been carrying our children, they have grown to suspect us in return -- how many times have you heard n****s ain't s**t from the mouth of another black person? -- and it's a little unseemly to NOW get in high dudgeon when a white guy does what we as a people have been doing for so long. No one will respect you if you don't respect yourself.

Posted by: RL | April 10, 2007 2:50 PM

Relpy...Loudounian "But hey, Spike Lee can say whatever he wants."

No, Spike Lee can not say what he wants. The point of that was that some black people have been taught that white is right so if there skin color is light it makes them closer to being accepted. Plus this was college frats and sorities in the eighty's and that is why he used the term wannabees.


Posted by: STUD | April 10, 2007 2:53 PM

I didn't know who Don Imus was until this whole situation popped up. I won't be watching his show, he's not going to get better ratings because of me. But let's examine some things shall we?

1) It's pretty pathetic that some of you would rather point fingers and say "well black people say it all the time" and use that as an excuse to defend Imus. What he said was inappropriate regardless. Erasing ignorance and hatred has to start somewhere, why not with you?

2) Most of the hip-hop that's purchased is purchased by white youth. Labels do not put out hip-hop that is positive and non-violent. Anyone ever heard of Common, Talib Kwali, Lupe Fiasco? Probably not because their music is positive and therefore not considered a moneymaker.

3)Spike Lee's movie Do The Right Thing was about exposing the racist and stereotypical attitudes that many people have. Anyone who actually watched it and paid attention would know he was NOT condoning these views.

I'm horrified when I hear that someone said something racially insensitive about any group, black, white, green, purple, etc. These are young ladies in the prime of their lives, they do not deserve to be regarded in such a manner. So they have tattoos? So they don't have flowing hair down their backs? I'd be hard pressed to find anyone who plays sports with such intensity and manages to look like a rose afterwards. I'll continue to do what I always did, not watch BET/MTV, not purchase music that degrades women or listen to it in my car, teach my daughter what it means to be a positive and strong young woman, and remember that ignorant white people do not define me or what I can do in life. The best thing Don Imus can do is stop apologizing and start contributing to a scholarship fund for women who want to play bball at Rutgers, regardless of race.

Posted by: This Whole Situation Is Lame | April 10, 2007 2:56 PM

For RL:
I feel you. And that's what I've been telling our people all day. I was offended by Imus's comments but I wasn't upset. Until we protest rap music, vidoes, etc. then be quiet when it comes to Imus. That's why we can't get any respect as a people.

Posted by: Melvin | April 10, 2007 2:58 PM

RL--

Like I said regarding Melvin, you don't speak for all of "us".

"We" have not disrespected "our" women anymore than any other cultural group. They just make you THINK "we" have.

The Greaseman got in just as much trouble for his, "drag more of 'em behind pickup trucks" comment.

People need to stop focusing on what black people are doing in this case. Black people did nothing. IMUS did.

Posted by: shocked dad | April 10, 2007 2:59 PM

Melvin, I wouldn't try "ho" on your daughter, particularly if her mother is within earshot. My husband is unfortunately prone to shouting "in the ho" at the television when watching golf and a putt is close. I finally asked him to stop, it's offensive even when not applied to a person. Unfortunatley, Al & Jesse don't do much to engender respect. They're charlatans and it's unfortunate when they insinuate themselves into every situation from which they can make hay. Jesse belongs to my health club and makes his appearances in a limosine, with an entourage and body guard. Obama belongs as well. He appears in jeans and jumps on the treadmill with his I-pod, graciously talking with anyone rude enough to interrupt the poor guy's work-out. Stands in line at the deli counter with everyone else. Respect as a people hasn't been achieved by anybody. Respect for individuals who are seen as examples of those people is far easier to achieve. Thanks for not putting all of us "white people" under the Imus umbrella.

Posted by: Leigh | April 10, 2007 3:15 PM

When we all realize that we are connected and one, then all the hate will stop. My divine spirit recognizes and honors all of yours. Everytime someone says "white" or "black" or "Indian" etc. you are promoting racism and separateness. Let us all be spiritual beings having a human experience. Let not the color of your skin, the texture of your hair, the sound of your voice define you, you and everyone are of God. Let that be your definition of who you are, then there will be NOTHING that will offend anyone.

Peace,Love & Honor

Posted by: Essence of God | April 10, 2007 3:32 PM

Marc,I wonder what Wilbon thinks of his friend Kornheiser who has appeared frequently on the Imus show. Is there a free pass?

Posted by: joe | April 10, 2007 3:42 PM

Joe: If Wilbon spurned every guy in Washington who has appeared on the Imus show, he'd be a lonely man.

Posted by: Loudounian | April 10, 2007 3:53 PM

Rebuttal to Stud

Imus didn't kill anybody; your analogy fails.

He was wrong and he apologized.

He also said in the same remarks that the Tennessee women were cute. No one talks about that and it has been conveniently edited out of the newsclips. Tennessee has many African-American players and the I-man said they were cute. He did not denigrate all the women in the college game; he said something stupid about the Rutgers team, no one individually. Those women were a team, they played like a team, they had game, came on in the last month like a red locomotive and almost won it all. Tennessee was able to stand up to and derail that express. Anybody that followed the tourney would be afraid of that Rutgers team.

The guy is sorry; let's move on.

Posted by: John S | April 10, 2007 4:00 PM

The fact that Eugene Robinson hammered Imus but not the black community for using much worse language, exposes him (and the Post) for the racists that they are.

Posted by: JD | April 10, 2007 4:02 PM

"We" have not disrespected "our" women anymore than any other cultural group. They just make you THINK "we" have."

There a Billion $ industry that proves other wise.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 10, 2007 4:05 PM

"We" have not disrespected "our" women anymore than any other cultural group. They just make you THINK "we" have."

There a Billion $ industry that proves other wise.

Posted by: Melvin | April 10, 2007 4:05 PM

WHAT A MESS!! First of all, Imus is a Bigot..plain and simple. Unfortunately, we as Blacks have given the bigots of this world permission to call our black women ho's, .itches and so on. I am sure I will get responses to this statement with...who/how/when did we give them permission?? We give it to them everyday with the Rap/Hip/Hop Music/Videos. When are we going to stand up and say, enough is enough to our young rappers. Why must we call our women out of their names and hy must me show them shaking their butts (as they are about to shake out of their shorts)and shaking their breasts as they are about to fall out of their mini-tops? We show our young women as nothing more than a piece of meat. My Mother had a saying "If you give someone a stick to knock you in the head with, you can't say anything when they use that stick on you." We have given them....bigots...the stick to use on us, and now they are using it on us.

Posted by: Tired | April 10, 2007 4:16 PM

Imus should be fired! If this were Jews being offeneded he would have been fired already. Though rappers say offensive things that doe not make it right for others to say offensive things. Stop making excuses for his actions, he said it. A rapper didn't make his mouth spew the hatred, Imus did it all on his own STOP USING HIP HOP AS A SCAPEGOAT FOR RACISTS ACTIONS THAT IMUS HIMSELF COMMITED. If you are not black and have not walked in our shoes then of course you won't be able to relate to how offensive we find certain remarks. Again stop saying that this rapper said this, or this comedian said that. Or asking why is it offensive when a white person says the same thing. The main point is you are white and not black.

Posted by: X | April 10, 2007 4:27 PM

To the idiot, Fed Up, and the remaining nuts who aren't really informed about the history of people of color in this country: Black people did not get Forty Acres and a Mule, it was a promise that was never kept... If it had, the economic disparities between people of color and white folks in this good ole US of A might be a little different.

Read up, get your story together. In addition, the reason Egypt and Mother Africa aren't in "our" sights, is because no form of slavery ever compared to that which was perpetrated on the soils of America.

So blind are you that you can't even grasp the fact that the "Nappy" isn't what is offensive, how 'bout if your daughter was referred to as a ho. Take a breath, read a little and seek some understanding before you open your mouth. Fed Up, answer this for us, ignorance is bliss isn't it?

Posted by: I got a grop alright | April 10, 2007 4:29 PM

So I'm not black and I don't get it. Perhaps you don't get it either. Every time a white person says something that offends a black person it isn't necessarily racist. It can just be stupid or ignorant. I don't watch American Idol because I think Simon is gratuitously cruel. Perhaps if you haven't walked in a white person's shoes and been blamed for virtually every misfortune that befalls a minority you can't understand how tiresome it is. Plenty of people don't understand how a culture that routinely refers to its women in slanderous fashion can get so outraged when an old white guy misreads the cues and steps over the line. If it all comes down to "You aren't black so you don't get it" then how are you ever going to explain it to anyone making an honest effort to understand?

Posted by: Leigh | April 10, 2007 4:38 PM

X: "Imus should be fired! If this were Jews being offeneded he would have been fired already."

X, you're ignorant. Imus insults Jews constantly on his show. You people who think Jews have so much power are pathetic. If they did, why aren't you dead?

Posted by: Loudounian | April 10, 2007 4:46 PM

Really Loudounian is that a threat? Oh well, just as I am tired of people making excuses for a bigot such as Imus so what does tha make you!

Posted by: X | April 10, 2007 4:52 PM

But John S., why did the Tennessee team get a pass? Was it because they looked less 'ethnic'? And why did appearance even come up in a discussion of their gameplay?

Racism aside, I think we move on when the young women he's disrespected say they're ready to move on. Not before.

Posted by: fs | April 10, 2007 4:57 PM

This is a team that got to the national championship by beating Duke, which had gone 30-0 at one point (practically in Duke's back yard), and competed for Rutgers' first national championship since 1949. This team is full of first-year students -- meaning they will be back. And they've got a great coach in C. Vivian Stringer.

But all people may remember them for is being on the receiving end of Imus' comments. It's over when the players say they're done with it.

Everybody who wants to make it a sideshow or point the fingers at everyone else by playing some lame-ass version of connect-the-dots can just go pound salt.

Posted by: dirrtysw | April 10, 2007 5:04 PM

Jesse Jackson is the epitome of hypocracy.

His hymey remark was made and he still had a job. Go figure.

And Sharpton...well....

Yeah, right.

Posted by: DC | April 10, 2007 5:27 PM

Rebuttal...John S
With all due respect sir if he had said something like those Tennessee women are some cute hos do you think nothing would be said? Or unlike Rutgers, Tennessee has some cute straight hair hos? Would that be fine? Sir don't cloud your mind with the notion that he did not denigrate all the women in the tournament and that makes it alright. What happens next year or 5 years down the road when it might happen again. Being a fan of his you know it is not the first time and if he is left on the air it is my opinion it will not be the last.

Posted by: STUD | April 10, 2007 5:35 PM

Can you say XM satellite radio? here he comes and all of us loyal listeners too.
it needs to go to Xm or Sirius or the format will be so diluted down , it won't be entertaining anymore.Imus will be fearful of offending ANYONE, Yes I said entertaining, it is entertainment. You don't have to listen to the show just like we don't have to listen to Chris Rock, martin lawerence,Dave chappelle, Al sharpton. By the way Al, what religion do you belong to that doesn't offer forgiveness? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. And here we have Al backing up a dumptruck full of rocks, driven by Tawana brawley I suppose?

Posted by: imanisok | April 10, 2007 5:42 PM

According to the bible, Christ's head and hair was like "wool," and we all know that wool is very curly to the point of looking 'nappy.' And aside from the fact that Christ's feet was of fine brass as if burned in a furnace was a Black man. So, with that said, if everyone knew their history, Imus, Bernard McGuirk, and all of the same ilk would cease from this. Or perhaps, they do know deep down inside about the 'true history,' and 'true identity' of the original man, and cannot cope with such truth.
McGuirk, Imus, and its ilk should be called out, and continue to be called out in the public whenever nasty negative references are made about people, period. And as far as the politicians, journalists, celebrities, educators, book authors, etc., who rather sell their soul for a few pieces of gold to sell their product or service on the Imus show should also be called out because they all know the nature of this beast! No time to play phony and be hypocrites now! CBS, MSNBC, and all other financial television and radio network moguls need to feel the 'financial pain,' by the public. ANYONE who believes that 'freedom of speech' is to give license to insult a person's race, gender, lifestyle, religious beliefs, or ethnicity, will ultimately end up 'cursing themselves' and their seeds. So it is written, and let the truth be told, it's being done! Just look at your news and other current events, and ask yourself why are things going the way it is?

Posted by: Miriam | April 10, 2007 5:52 PM

Jesse Jackson: Care to comment on your h***y remarks in years past?

Posted by: DC | April 10, 2007 6:15 PM

Bravo, imanisok

Posted by: DC | April 10, 2007 6:16 PM

The American black community should learn it has no copywrite on vocabulary and attitudes, that the music and entertainment product it sells is culturally contagious. Sharpton and Jackson should clean up their own "house" first. Other Americans learn degrading vocabulary regarding blacks from black Americans, every word of it, and are simply, and stupidly, immitating degrading behavior. Shame on all of them.

Posted by: Squachem | April 10, 2007 7:16 PM

Reading through this string one fellow makes me cringe - Jimmie. At one point he comes across as a racist idiot. next he actually makes some sense. And the inane use of the word "MANN".
Wanna talk history? Slavery was the name of the game for 1000's of years before modern times, and still exisits today. But you are a fool to think that the "MANN" (is that an insult to white people i guess?) invented and was the only proponent of slavery. Are you really this ignorant Jimmie, or just like to be a shock jock like Imus?

Posted by: Matt | April 10, 2007 11:35 PM

If you trash your house, is everyone else allowed to come and trash your house too? No. The same logic applies to Blacks and whatever they do and say to each other (whether it is right or wrong) within their race. I don't condone the derogatory remarks some Blacks say, however, it doesn't warrant other races to disrespect us and believe that an apology will resolve everything. If a person hasn't said anything wrong, why apologize?

Posted by: milky | April 11, 2007 12:56 AM

Let us not forget who Al Sharpton really is and what he stands for. Look up Tawana Brawley on Wikipedia, and you'll see what I mean.

Posted by: Adrienne Najjar | April 11, 2007 9:07 AM

It just shows that the old dog still has teeth. That's the Imus show and there's no reason to apologize. Even if he were fired, he'll land somewhere else with another multi-million dollar contract. I'm ethnic Chinese and at times I do get offended by Chinese racial jokes, but at the same time, I laugh out loud when some other group are being made fun of. That's the kind of humor I like. Just my 2 cents.

Posted by: TJ | April 11, 2007 10:36 AM

In terms of people trying to justify Imus, they bring up the issue of rap music and hip-hop. Trust me, I am the first critic of that genre, as I think it does a good bit to reinforce stereotypes of African Americans and women (unfair, by the way); however, Imus is in a totally different position.

He's a newsmaker who's got politicians and highly regarded media types on his show. Sorry, the standards are a bit different for a morning show host than some music artist.

Again, as I have said, I don't see this as a joke. I think this is what he really feels and he's done it over and over.

As an African American, I'm a little disturbed by those who say, "it's no big deal" in light of these events. Even though things are a lot better than let's stay in 1960, we still have a lot of work to do in order to move past racism.

Until we can have open and honest dialogue on race relations in the United States and get everyone's feelings out in the open, you'll have episodes like this happen again and again and again.

This week, Imus has brought what exists in many people and what is said on countless talk show after talk show in nation, cities small and large out in the open.

Anthony - http://oriolepost.blogspot.com

Posted by: Anthony | April 11, 2007 12:50 PM

Hey Melvin.

If you are out there still....what billion dollar industry is this? You cannot mean the music industry. 70% of the rap music is purchased by whites.

Like I said the media makes people THINK that we are treating our women substantially worse than any other group.

Just ain't true.

Posted by: shocked dad | April 11, 2007 12:54 PM

So Imus moves on to HBO or Sirius Radio.....His ratings now will be impeccable....what Imus did was show America, that Blacks started the hoe name calling business and has been accepted by that particular race of people for a long time...If his fired, then pull the hip hop, gansta rap crap off the shelf as well..

Posted by: James | April 11, 2007 1:47 PM

So Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson do not have a problem when a black man or woman publicly uses derogatory names/words that are far worse that what Imus used? How embarassing for that community. All of these black entertainers who teach their listeners that it is ok to use the N word and that it is OK to call women hos, b*tches, etc. fly under the radar. When a community fosters poor attitudes and negative images within their own group, how can they be shocked when others outside of the community use the same language?

Posted by: C.R. | April 11, 2007 1:55 PM

And as far as the standards being higher for Imus and not a rap artist, etc... Bull. Standards should be HIGHER for those artists. Why? Youths today are not turning to Don Imus for guidance and image, they are turning to 50 Cent, Snoop Dogg, etc. Their standards should be higher knowing that while they are sitting in their brand new houses and driving their brand new cars, they are shaping the minds of many youths every day.

Posted by: C.R. | April 11, 2007 1:57 PM

"Hey Melvin.

If you are out there still....what billion dollar industry is this? You cannot mean the music industry. 70% of the rap music is purchased by whites.

Like I said the media makes people THINK that we are treating our women substantially worse than any other group.

Just ain't true."

70% purchased. So what. That doesn't take into account the number of people listening to "Black" radio stations that play rap music. because when I hear people call in it's black people calling in to request the music. When I look at 106 & Park I see Black teenagers. I'm sure white kids are tuning in and listening but trust me there's a heavy black audience. When you go to the club it's Black folks in there dropping it like it's hot! So there's no one trying to fool anyone.

Posted by: Melvin | April 11, 2007 1:59 PM

Wow, I've read every single one of these comments, and you guys don't do anything but confirm, racism still exist.

White Americans you should be ashamed of such arrogance (which in my opinion is nothing but deep guilt of some kind).

This is why I hope and pray they remove the gun ban on DC, cause with this new and improved white American somebody is going to get hurt.

Posted by: Frankey | April 11, 2007 2:30 PM

By the way, I won't be responding to any responses to my comment, only because it'll serve no purpose.

Besides, I'm too busy writing my congressman/woman to get the gun ban lifted.

Take care you mean vicious white people.

Posted by: Frankey | April 11, 2007 2:33 PM

White women make more porn videos and all of the "girls gone wild videos" which are far worse than the rap videos (which I I find both disgusting and demeaning...but we hae to admit porn is a bigger industry than rap videos by far so which group honestly has the lock down on whoring the women?) with that said, however, do white women in general want to be referred to as ho's just because there are plenty of white ho's selling their wares on porn videos' all the time? I would dare say the answer is "no" People can hardly open their email anymore without some white woman's anus spread eagle in front of it or some white woman smoking a 'pipe' or waiting for her pearl drops tooth paste! Only a few of them end up in the money like Anna Nicole. A lot of these "girls gone wild" just get a T-shirt for their trouble...how 'stupid ho' is that?????...but I am sure with all the examples I just pointed out, the rest of the white girls who don't partake in those activities, and think that they are vile and disgusting, don't want to be lumped in and called skank ho's just because some members of their community think it is okay. That applies acorss all nationalites. Some in your group will do stupid things but that does not mean that everyone in that community condones it, in fact I would venture to guess that most abhor it. No one would want to hear a minority radio host denigrating white women even though there a clear examples of white people doing it to themselves!

And as far as if they say it about themselves then why can't we? The same rule applies in the fact that you can talk about your own mother, father, brother, or sister...but if someone else starts bad mouthing them you don't appreciate it and may even want to kick some butt. Why do those who purport to be reasonably intelligent individuals act like this concept is so strange?

"White men can't jump" was written and directed by a WHITE man...Ron Shelton...geez you are on a computer surf and make sure you know what you are talking about before you make a unjustified comment! You and the KKK can go protest your white brother filmmaker all you want.

Being black, I know I didn't get to vote on whether I am referred to as African American or black. A few people came up with that idea and ran with it so don't come up with the "they can't have it both ways" concept because "they" all didn't agree to it. Do you white people all agree on everything? NOOOOO, If you did then there wouldn't be a democratic and a republican party because you would all share the exact same ideas and wouldn't have the need to "have it both ways" Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are just figure heads and can't possibly speak for what is in the heart of all blacks. Does George Bush and Newt Gingrich speak for all the hearts of whites????

And for those of you telling blacks to "get over it" why don't you get over O.J. first. Sure Robert Blake can kill his white wife and get off (and you know he did it) and there is no big white people protest and Robert Blakes name isn't thrown around everytime a crime happens that has nothing to do with him. O.J. (who also may have done it) get's a totally different response from whites. Get over yourselves first!

Posted by: Len | April 11, 2007 2:33 PM

When people watch pornography, it does not make them want to go out and bank everything they see. Kids watch these rappers on television toting their guns and bad attitudes and they want to be JUST LIKE THEM. How ANYONE of ANY COLOR can dispute that is just stupidity. Also, how you can justify people in your own race making demeaning comments about your race BLOWS MY MIND! The N word is such a terrible word... unless it's used by a black person? How stupid and sad.

Posted by: C.R. | April 11, 2007 2:37 PM

CR

Let's ask sex offenders what they have in stock. Is it rap videos or pronography. You lose!

Posted by: Len | April 11, 2007 3:00 PM

Porn is still regulated to age restrictions. Your local radio is free. Cable is in almost every house hold in america. I believe if you want to see woman be portrayed in a certain way then yes buy porn. But I should not have to turn on the local (public)radio and hear porn lyrics. Or Lyrics that have content that demeans woman. This is not about competing for which race disrespect their woman more. RESPECT TO ALL WOMAN REGARDLESS OF RACE!

Posted by: melvin | April 11, 2007 3:02 PM

If rap videos make kids want to be like them, then what about "the soprano", "the godfather" and don't even get me started on the violent video games that all these parents are buying for their kids! How many thousands of kids have you polled to see if they want to be rappers or gangster? I bet none, but if you did you would probably be surprised to find that it is not as prominent as you think.
I tend to think each of these suck, we have gang killings by (by black, white, asian and hispanic) and then we also have columbine.

Posted by: Len | April 11, 2007 3:04 PM

the point of the whole porn vs rap videos is that others brought up that black women were being treated as ho's and that is why it is so easy to call them that. Porn treats white women like ho's even more so than rap does black women, but it is not alright to call them that. Neither case should be. And I don't know about the radio station you listen to, but the radio stations I hear in the D.C. area beep out offensive words, you have to go a buy the CD to acutally hear the explicit lyrics!

Posted by: Melvin | April 11, 2007 3:07 PM

CR

I never said that it was okay for anyone (even of the same race) to call any of their peers or otherwise bad names. I simply said that it is more offensive when it is someone outside of that group...by using the example you can talk about your mom, dad, brother or sister, (even if it isn't right) but if someone outside of your family were talk about them in a bad way, then you would call them to the carpet on it. Re-read the post and get it right!

Posted by: Len | April 11, 2007 3:10 PM

Len,
It is still a stupid argument. Someone calling my sister stupid would make me mad, yes but STUPID isn't a word with disturbing historical significance. Its a STUPID argument.

And also... We are not talking about kids wanting to be gangsters because of rap videos and lyrics, we are talking about the way kids today talk and how people LOVE using the N word one each other because 50 and Snoop do it but when Don Imus makes a stupid comment, all hell breaks loose. I don't go around calling Italians "guidos" because of the Godfather. Yet I walk outside and hear 10 year olds telling each other to "f-off n*gger" like it's no big deal. It's sad and anyone who can argue that obviously grew up thinking that it was also OK.

Posted by: C.R. | April 11, 2007 3:15 PM

Oh yeah pedophiles... Porn makes pedophiles. Another brilliant argument.

Posted by: C.R. | April 11, 2007 3:17 PM

Melivn,
dear, reread the post, I did state that just because you have your white porn women or you black rap video women, you can't judge the whole group by the actions of a few!!! No chaste woman want to be lumped in with loose women just because there are some. The reason that was beign brought up is becasue a lot of posters used the "they call their women ho's" in the rap video so why get offended by something you created, is akin to saying "they treat their women like ho's i the pron video" so why get offended when soemone else calls them a ho. Both comments are stupid because all women aren't ho's just because some are. If you don't want me to call your mother a ho, thne you don't call mine one! Don't worry about what I call her, I have to regulate me and get my ducks in a row...but even if I am out of order I am not going to stand here and let you do it! ENOUGH SAID!

Posted by: Len | April 11, 2007 3:18 PM

" but the radio stations I hear in the D.C. area beep out offensive words, you have to go a buy the CD to acutally hear the explicit lyrics!"

My Reply:
I live in the DC area and I hear the so-called "beep-out" of offensive words. It's a joke. they might as well play the real version.

Posted by: Melvin B. | April 11, 2007 3:23 PM

CR,

There you go adding things in again. I didn't say porn made pedophiles, I didn't even use the word pedophile...so we see where your mind is. Obviously you grew up thinking about becoming a peodphile. Yes, that was stupid just about as stupid as your comment that I must have grown up thinking the N word was alright. You are wrong. And you continue to aruge because you just want to be contrary. I never said it was alright, I said it is more offensive when it comes from someone outside the group. If you are too blind to see that then you really are living in a fantasy world!

Posted by: len | April 11, 2007 3:28 PM

There's an arguement for video games, porn, music, videos. While I wouldn't say any 1 thing is only too blame for certain problems. i think they perpetuate the problems. It all starts at home and with individuals.

Posted by: Melvin B. | April 11, 2007 3:28 PM

Oh yeah duh... porn turns people into sex offenders... an even BETTER argument.

And the N word not being as offensive inside the group as it is out?

IT SHOULDN'T BE TOLERATED COMING FROM ANYONE! How EMBARASSING to want to use that word on a friend of the same race knowing how derogatory and disgusting it is. If anything, it should be WORSE coming from someone inside the group because a black person should know better than ANYONE else how evil a word it is.

Again, how sad.

Posted by: C.R. | April 11, 2007 3:48 PM

Ok, I can't resist...wait a minute folks.

The small percentage of black americans that do refer to themselves as the N word, does not compare to the percentage of black americans who disown and dislike the word and do not use it in their day to day life styles.

To that I say, the small percentage does not represent the larger of the party, so we do find it offensive and we do protest and write letters to those that use it openly and without disregard of the amount of damage it causes. But, this doesn't get reported to you.

Please understand, the majority of intelligent black americans dispise such language towards each other, so please stop using the small percentage of black americans that do use it for their own reason.

But, how about his one...Ofay!!

I'll start using this term when discussing white americans.

Posted by: Frankey | April 11, 2007 3:50 PM

Not saying that the people who use the N word are the majority... What I am saying is people need to concentrate on those who do, especially in the music industry, and stop focusing on one joke that went wrong. 50 Cent can get on the radio and say the N word but you would never see Sharpton picketing his home.

Posted by: C.R. | April 11, 2007 3:58 PM

Actually Sharpton had a protest last week before this whole imus thing happened, that had to with 50 cent who had a a memeber of his company involved in a controversy. Not that I'm defending Al Sharpton becuase I think his influence as a leader is irrelevent. But just thought I'd add that in.

Posted by: Melvin B. | April 11, 2007 4:10 PM

Actually... it was a protest against Tony Yayo for beating up a 14 year old son of a rival and had nothing to do with their use of profanity in songs or the image they portray.

*Al Sharpton, the Hip Hop Summit Action Network's Russell Simmons and Dr. Benjamin Chavis, and other community and religious leaders are planning a march to protest the alleged actions of G-Unit rapper Tony Yayo.

Billed as a "call to action and public grievance," the rally is planned for Monday as a response to the artist's alleged assault on the 14-year-old son of hip hop rival Jimmy "Henchman" Rosemond, head of Czar Entertainment.

http://www.eurweb.com/story/eur32415.cfm

Posted by: C.R. | April 11, 2007 4:15 PM

CR

You are just hopeless and coming across as such. How "sad" you make up a statement of of words that were never written; how "sad" you can't grasp a simple concept with the explanation given to you over and over again using your on family as an example. I actually am not sure that is isn't that you don't want to grasp it or don't even know it to be true, but rather you just don't want to be wrong. How "sad" the ego of some people that can't admit to something that is staring them in the face. I will waste no more time on you because you are simply being stubborn and argumentative and taking my original post far from the message that it originally intended.

Posted by: Len | April 11, 2007 4:24 PM

And how sad that you don't get that a black person calling a black person the N word is worse than a white person doing it. If you're so tired of this, stop responding with your ireelevant arguments.

Posted by: C.R. | April 11, 2007 4:48 PM

C.R. - Len, would you two be willing to sit and have a drink?

And help each other understand and then maybe be friends.

I guess not.....the Saga Continues!

Posted by: Frankey | April 11, 2007 5:08 PM

I don't like it when any of the rappers use the N word so I don't have to buy their records. I mean rappers, really, they do not have a voice with the voters and the political go getters in the house and the senate, but Imus does. It seems to make them look accepting of his views and there by may affect some of the choice they make.If he is a racist I would feel better if he got on there with a KKK suit so at least you could know what he truly is.

Posted by: STUD | April 11, 2007 5:35 PM

Think Imus has used the N word in the past 5 days?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 11, 2007 5:57 PM

I see some people are injecting "HIP-HOP" and its use of vulgarities. With HIP-HOP I know what I am getting. In fact, there are WARNING messages on the CD cover about EXPLICIT LYRICS. I don't think IMUS gives such a warning each time he takes to the airwaves. If SNOOP DOGG had a nationally syndicated PUBLIC radio show where he used profane language and the like, I think he would have problems too.

Posted by: Griff | April 11, 2007 9:33 PM

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Ahh, but he DOES have public radio access to young minds via FREE RADIO. I am appalled at Imus and at rappers and the likes. My children will never be allowed to listen to rap music - I always feel like they left a letter off of that -- add a C in front. My children also would never be allowed to listen to Imus. What he said was unacceptable and offensive, regardless of my race.

I think there are other people out there who should be ripped from TV - primarily Bill Maher. I will never forget the time he said the mentally disabled were basically like dogs. He is even more vile than what Don Imus could dream up. Where is the outrage to remove him from TV? I guess because he's liberal, its okay? I am always appalled by people who use the word "retarded" when someone does something that wasn't a great idea. If a friend of mine uses that word, I call them on it.

I am an adoptive parent with a multicultural family. I hear racially biased comments constantly. People make fun of things and make racially stupid comments out of lack of knowledge - I live to educate them on the fact that all people are the same on the inside and character is a far better way to judge someone than skin color or hair texture. Imus' character has been tainted... He needs to apologize and the world needs to move on.. But if you rip Imus a new one, do the same to the other offenders. Equality in ripping, I say. Start with Maher, please... and put it on Pay-per-view.

Posted by: NCMama | April 11, 2007 10:51 PM

Wake up White People! White people need to have a jesse jackson in their corner. Someone who would speak up everytime somone says honky, or white trash, or cracker or.... Nah, white people just don't care enough to be bothered by these names. White people also know that putting these opportunists like sharpton and jackson on the air and throwing someone like Imus to the wolves every now and then, will appease most black people and let them get back to brading their nappy heads and pimpin hoes.

Posted by: Jeffy | April 12, 2007 1:16 AM

Look everybody! Jeff said Nappy heads and Pimpin Hoes! How cool is he! Blah, Blah, Blah! It's been great! See Ya later friends!

Posted by: Melvin B. | April 12, 2007 8:05 AM

Fire him yeah! now what. Grow up its o.k. to say whatever you want when your black but not if your white. Al and Jesse are a bunch of mouthy idiots that I would never have defend me if i were dying. The team is the only ones that has any rights here not those two nuts. They're bums. I bet this whole thing comes down to 2 things press for al and jess and money from Imus $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ never forget money cures all

Posted by: jerome parker | April 12, 2007 9:50 AM

Eventually PC will drive all spontanious and creatative entertainment to the internet and satellite. Different and semitically incorrect points of view will bloom like a thousand flowers. A new day is dawning.

Posted by: Slim | April 12, 2007 12:16 PM

First: If you don't like what you hear on the radio, switch to another station. Shock jocks and the Lowbrows who pay them wouldn't exist if those of mean spirit and/or tiny intellect didn't listen to them.

Second: Why is it OK for Black people to make fun of White people, but not the other way around? Because, Black people (and other ethnic minorities) in the U.S. of A. suffer, and that is not too strong of a description, simply by living in our culture. If you are white (I am), it is difficult to accept because the system is set up by us, and works for us. Slavery was abolished, yes, but that doesn't mean that Black people were or are embraced and assimilated into the culture at large.

Sure, some civil changes have happened. Awareness has slowly been raised. But look back at the 300-400 years of European's (and the USA by extension) dealings with people of African descent, and the civil changes have really only happened in the last 40 years. That's a whole lot of atttudes and ignorance to be changed in a short period of time. Our culture simply isn't there, yet. And to pretend that it is, and to tell Black people to "get over it" is really not a well thought out response.

I was watching some program about racism on PBS years ago. I don't even remember the name of the woman who made the comment, but what she said has stuck with me. She said, "It doesn't really matter whether or not you think you're a racist. That's not such an interesting question. What matters is whether you are ANTI-racism. " Her comment made me think. Do I call bullsh*t on racism when I see or hear it? What is it like to be a person of color, living in White America?

I don't expect shock jocks to get enlightened. We can rationalize anything if we profit by it. But I sure would like to see people, those people who think that the drek that Don Imus and his ilk vomit out into our collective consciousness each day is acceptable, try walking in the in the shoes of folks who don't happen to look like them.

Posted by: Max | April 12, 2007 1:27 PM

I agree with Len's point that things are different when said by someone outside your group. For instance, in one of my circles, the males sometimes jokingly call a female a "tart" and the female may jokingly call the male a "man ho". Now between our group it is acceptable because we are okay with it from each other, but if someone outside of the group called any of us either of those names, they would most certainly receive at least a scornful look if not a good talking to. I think C.R. knows that's true but didn't want to give up the debate. Anyway, peace to everyone!

Posted by: Missy | April 12, 2007 3:13 PM

I don't think Imus will end up on satellite. Satellite has a subscription-based model that relies on large numbers of subscribers. Imus' audience as small; but they were affluent, so he benefitted from the ad-driven business model of over the air radio. I am sad about how this turned out, because he has effectively been censored, and I think censorship is un-American.

Posted by: RL | April 12, 2007 6:40 PM

Who's Imus?

Posted by: Everybody else | April 12, 2007 7:16 PM

Imus states the truth he is good with his views the problem in American is stupid ni**ers I can say that because the supreme court says I am not racist(Just like African Americans) because I'm a minority American Indian. Whites are not the only race that hate ni**ers Asian, Europeans, Iraqis, Indians, Hispanics they all hate you too! Ni**ers are the only group of people about me me me, instead of helping with the nation they create more problems stupid self centered arrogant ni**ers, sorry if I offend any blacks out there but there is a difference between blacks and ni**ers Bill Cosby is black, Al Sharpton is a ni**er it's time for the Blacks to step up and shut the ni**ers up they make your race look bad. And all the other nations are laughing at us because we let ni**ers have their way. My people were abused way more than the ni**ers ever even thought about, oh and by the way African Americans don't have the the copyright on slavery that was world wide and all races got to be slaves you ignorant insecure nappy heads.

Posted by: Mr. American indian | April 12, 2007 9:04 PM

There are a few problems I have with certain posters here. Max, you state that it is acceptable for Blacks to act in a racist manner toward Whites, and yet you later state you old on to a quote about never condoning racism. What's up with that?

I, as a matter of fact, am anti-racism. I do not condone racism, which is one reason I have a problem with Al Sharpton's involvement with the Imus situation. Sharpton was one of the first, and most vocal, people to completely ruin the lives of the Men's Lacrosse team at Duke. And though it is now clear this woman's accusations were completely false, and pushed forward only because of anti-white racism, Sharpton has never backed down or apologized about his treatment of the students at Duke.

For the poster comparing the Duke case to the O.J. Simpson case, please tell me you are simply a 4th Grader with no sense of historical accuracy. There was a plethora of evidence against O.J. Simpson and to this day many people are shocked that he was able to get off. Meanwhile, each time the Duke case was mentioned it seemed less likely that her story was true.

I do not condone racism, I do not condone Imus, but I believe the ability of a media hog like Sharpton to get off unscathed after his actions and words about the Duke Men.

Posted by: Daniel | April 12, 2007 10:39 PM

I don't see where anybody compared the O.J. simpson case to the Dukle rape case...however I do see where someone compared the response to the O.J. case to the response to the Robert Blake case...and you do have to admit both cases were similar in that famous men with dead wives that each were tried for their murder...the response the public had to each of them getting off was very, very different!

Posted by: Brynda | April 13, 2007 7:52 AM

And now that I have made my ignorant post, I am going to take my alcohlic self back to the reservation to spend my government check (a.k.a. welfare check) on alcohol and gambling.

woo woo woo
signed - american indian

Posted by: american indian | April 13, 2007 8:36 AM

Why does Jeff Foxworthy get to make jokes about poor whites and call them rednecks, but if I did it I would get in trouble? Where is all the outrage in the white community towards Jeff Foxworthy? This is a double standard right white people?

Posted by: Tired of it all | April 13, 2007 11:37 AM

I am glad "Tired of it all" took the words right out of my mouth.

European/White comedians are constantly making "cherry color" neck jokes and nobody says a word.

But they hold Million European Marches with us *African-Americans* using the "N" word.

You can't complain about us using the "N" word and not complain to your own people about using the "cherry colored" neck word or the "cloud color" trash comments.

I am an African-American if IMUS worked in a regular factory for say Nabisco. He would be okay with a two week suspension in my opinion. But since he works on the radio, No he is not free of speech the advertisers pay his salary and he pretty much is at the mercy of the advertisers.

THAT'S LIFE

Posted by: Wow | April 13, 2007 5:09 PM

WHAT!!! When did anyone get fired or sued for using redneck. Unless I missed it Redneck has not been deemed unusable by anyone. So far the only word that anyone gets their panties in a wad over is the N word and now the nappy thing. Please, please, please grow up, it's not really about the N word it's about the money that can be won because some poor white uses it or the power rush you get when someone gets fired for using it, if really does offend you, your very insecure and need therapy and if it really does abuse you mentally then using cracker is making white people mentally disturbed and dislike blacks even more, want to level the field? Stop whining about every little thing and stop making a big deal out of everything so trivial. You have nothing to complain about no one in my family ever had a slave and only a small percentage of whites did have slaves so stop acting like every white person is an evil taskmaster that whipped you ancestors. People like Al Sharpton are part of the problem, there are starving children what is Al doing for them...nothing, see what I am getting at? Be the solution not the problem.

Posted by: European American | April 13, 2007 6:45 PM

I am outraged that this has gone this far. I must be the only one that sees this as reverse racism! I do not agree with what Imus has said, but I do recognize his 'free speech' to say it! I would love nothing more than an anonymous video to find it's way into the media showing these girls 'humping' at a local college party to one of the many hip hop anthems about 'Ho's and bit@*#*@". Jay-Z Amil Ja Rule"s song "Can I Get A F@#&k You" is a perfect example of the derogatory nature that currently exists in our culture. Before we judge Imus we should look at what our youth is listening to today! Hip Hop artists, also being sponsored by big time corporations, are not feeling any repercussions to their lyrics! If any steps should be taken to the derogatory language used in media today, this is where we should start! What damages were done to these girls? No more than what they are listening to on their way to the games!!!!!!

Posted by: claudia | April 14, 2007 12:48 AM

Mr. Imus should be left alone by now. If his "sin" of saying what he said deserves what he already got as punishment, how about the Iraqi war that was launched four years ago with the death toll in the tens of thousands still rising? What could be a greater "sin", killing innocent lives on a daily basis or making poor choice of words in an unguarded moment? Let Amercia move on and focus on a real national crisis.

Posted by: Gang Zhou, Esq. | April 14, 2007 1:19 AM

The firing of IMUS is racist. Any black rapper can use the term ho and that is "black culture" but if a white person uses the term in a non funny joke, then it is racism. It scares me to death, a society that elected George Bush president and a society that allows Al Sharpton to be the moral judge of right and wrong. God helps us all!! Imus needs to go to pay radio

Posted by: Jill | April 14, 2007 4:04 PM

"Jack..bring that same talk to the streets, and we will see how long you feel that way."

Posted by: watch your mouth | April 9, 2007 10:15 PM


Heh... Spoken like a true black thug. Why is it when you black people don't like what someone says, you simply threaten them with violence. You have a knack for playing the "race-card" when it suits your needs.

Why should whites feel the need to walk on egg shells around you people? Those days are over. None of us are going to sit back and watch you play the race card anymore. You were not a slave, your father was not a slave, your grandfather was not a slave. I was not a slave owner, my father was not a slave owner, my grandfather was not a slave owner. GET OVER IT!!!

It's obvious you people have hate issues towards whites and constantly reverse race discriminate against whites. We are sick of it. We are sick of hearing about slavery when in fact some of the worst slave owners were black in this country.

You know what? The country's leading African American historian, Duke University professor John Hope Franklin, records that in New Orleans over 3,000 free Negroes owned slaves, or 28 percent of the free Negroes in that city.

In 1860 there were at least six Negroes in Louisiana who owned 65 or more slaves The largest number, 152 slaves, were owned by the widow C. Richards and her son P.C. Richards, who owned a large sugar cane plantation. Another Negro slave magnate in Louisiana, with over 100 slaves, was Antoine Dubuclet, a sugar planter. In Charleston, South Carolina in 1860, 125 free Negroes owned slaves; six of them owning 10 or more. In North Carolina 69 free Negroes were slave owners.

Ellison( who was black) owned more slaves than 99 percent of the South's slaveholders. Not every slave holder during that time was white, I hate to break it to you. So quite blaming all Whites for your problems in today's society. QUIT ASKING for free hand outs from our government for free money, welfare checks, food-stamps, free medical simply because you are too god damn lazy to go out and get a job.

Maybe you should find the relatives of the BLACK MAN Mr. Ellison and blame them for all of the troubles of today, considering he owned more slaves than 99% of the slave holders in the south.

LIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT FOLKS!
My people are Jews and we have been persecuted for thousands of years. We were the worlds N*iggers while you were still in Africa hunting with spears and wiping your butts with leaves. We came to America and worked our butts off starting small businesses, working 80 hours a week to survive and make it profitable. We never asked the government for FREE ANYTHING! Yet you sit back unemployed, smoke crack, drinking 40's, listening to rap music, complaining about how the world owes you everything. NOBODY OWES YOU SH*T!

Even Bill Cosby has said "enough is enough." Bill Cosby has said "We cannot blame white people." Bill Cosby has said "Blacks are not parenting. They're buying things for the kid -- $500 sneakers -- for what? They won't buy or spend $250 on Hooked on Phonics."


So keep complaining.....you know where you're going to be 100 years from now? Sitting back, STILL collecting free handouts from the government, smoking crack, drinking 40's, listening to rap music, and STILL complaining about how the world owes you something. PFfft....wake up!

Posted by: Fed up | April 14, 2007 10:16 PM

Who said the Imus radio show isn't national? Hey, I listen to it on the radio and I'm in Maine. Friends in Florida and California do also. His show is carried by stations all over the U.S.

Posted by: Kathy | April 15, 2007 9:41 AM

Sorry, I meant "did" listen and "was" carried.

Posted by: Kathy | April 15, 2007 9:44 AM

After reading what I said 3 posts up, I just wanted to say that I got a little heated. I apologize if I offended anyone, but the numbers don't lie.

I'm just sick of all the reverse race discrimination that is going on before my eyes, everywhere these days.

About 7 months ago, I had my district manager ask me to "do my best to hire a black sales rep."(if at all possible) which pretty much meant he wanted me to hold up on hiring anyone in until I could fill the position with someone black. Now these things in reality are not done in so many words. He didn't tell me that I would be fired if I didn't comply. He took me behind closed doors, looked me in the eye and asked me to fill the position with a black man/woman. After 3 weeks of applicants, there were no black applicants, and I had to fill the position because the training program was starting by weeks end and the next one would not be around for almost a month. I finally called him to tell him I had to squeeze someone in fast to get them into the program. I explained I needed the help immediately and that there had been no black applicants, BUT that I would keep my eyes open for the next one.

You know what folks, this is probably going to affect me when it comes to my next promotion, and why? because I was unable to hire someone black at my district managers request?

This is real folks, and I am so sick of this crap......

Nobody should EVER have to feel as uncomfortable as I did in this situation, but what can I do? Is it worth losing my job by going to HR? Of course not, so I have to just deal with it.

Posted by: Fed up | April 16, 2007 2:59 AM

does anyone here feel like theyre being played? the imus incident and the duke verict happens at the same time i guess this is suppose to stir up racial tension
in this country and bring forth some kind of "circumstance" that would make new world order more...um..uh how shall i say...sellable? nah thats crazy ...nevermind i didnt say nuthin

Posted by: wellnow | April 16, 2007 3:07 AM

verdict ...sorry

Posted by: wellnow | April 16, 2007 3:09 AM

Tim Russert iindicated, on Meet the Press, last Sunday (4/15)
that he went on the Imus program regularly notwithstanding the comments about the Catholic church (including the caricature of New York City's Cardinal Egan --continuing the caricature of the late Cardinal O'Connor.)

Haven't seen other mention of the program's (anti?) Catholic comments. Haven't seen any protest, not even from the Hispanic community, of the caricature of Attorney General Gonzalez on the Imus show.

A case of "it all depends whose ox is gored?"

Posted by: David Zukerman | April 17, 2007 10:29 PM

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