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Gary Williams On the Hot Seat?

Interesting discussion on this morning: Is Gary Williams on the coaching hot seat this season? Of note (for this posting) comes this comment from the writer who says Williams should be on the hot seat:

The bulk of the blame has to go to Williams. He's not getting the most out of his players, not even close. That becomes a bigger problem when you're not a great recruiter, something Williams has never resembled.

Williams has a great résumé and it's tough to look past that national title, but I think someone else can do better. Maryland, with the fertile D.C. recruiting area nearby, has a big fan base and one of the nicer arenas on the East Coast.

By Josh Barr  | August 4, 2008; 12:07 PM ET
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We've gone over this 100 times. Gary has never been able to replace Hahn,Patsos and Dickerson as recruiters. They got him nice talent and he's a damn good game day coach. They might not have given him top 20 recruits but they found kids that fit the flex offense perfectly and matched Gary's underdog style. Losing Wilcox early should not have crippled the program. It has. Gary has actually recruited decent backcourt players to replace Juan/Blake and Mouton but has had 7 years to replace Wilcox,Baxter,Holden and Randle and has failed miserably. His whole offense is predicated on pounding inside and then kicking out to wide open 3's and he's had great success against Coach K because of his willingness to stick to the plan and not have a 3 pt shooting contest like most teams do. My guess is Gary's clock is ticking and he's gone within 3 years.

Posted by: eric | August 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Got to take issue with you Eric, Maryland's flex offensive cannot be run with undisciplined players. I don't see a great game day coach.

On the contrary, I see a coach that doesn't react well to adversity and doggedly sticks to his game, particularly in the early part of the season.

Its as if he expects the team to get hot or turn it around, but doesn't do anything to make it happen offensively. He will exert some defensive pressure from time to time, but Maryland's play is as undisciplined as anybody's.

I listened to the Virginia commentators after last years game in C'ville and they commented that Vasquez was one of those rare individuals that could be most valuable player for both teams.

I can't say that a team with poor shot selection, too many turnovers and overall lack of discipline is the result of good coaching.

I believe that the loss of Patsos, Dickerson and Hahn went way beyond recruiting...

Posted by: Muddapucker | August 4, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Maryland will finish with only 2 conference victories - good for last place in the ACC.

You can find Gary on the golf course - instead of the recruiting trail.

Gary must go !

Posted by: mike | August 4, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

U of M Basketball's biggest problem is not Gary Williams, it is U of M. For decades, Maryland has not recruited the Baltimore area for its basketball or football players. Sure Moseley is coming to Maryland this year, but what about all of the other kids that have gone on to other schools while Maryland shows token interest.

Not every kid from the area should or could go to Maryland, but Maryland has to try harder for the kids it can get admitted. It also needs to market its program so that it is nor perceived as a D.C. school to people who live in the same State and pay their salaries.

Posted by: sdbeckham | August 4, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

For the past few years, I have read the blogs and the news articles that have disparaged on of the greatest basketball coaches of our time -- Gary Williams. Two decades ago, he took over an embattled basketball program with no hope of a future. Year after year, he has produced a good team which has not gotten into significant trouble with the NCAA. Just a good solid basketball program. Yes, the program has had its ups and downs, but which program hasn't? A few years ago, UCLA had issues. The same with UNC, UCONN, Syracuse, Kentucky, Kansas (it's been 20 years for KU) and Michigan State. And, the same could be said of Duke. Year after they year they're "conveniently" picked as a top five team. When's the last time they were in the final four? The elite eight? Yet, year after year, it's Gary Williams and the Maryland Terrapins who are picked on. I'm tired of it. People argue that he's not a good recruiter. Are you kidding? Have you ever asked any of those players that "got away" if MD was ever in serious contention. They weren't. Some kids just want to get away from home for college. Can you blame them? In some cases, it's like asking a kid with a full ride to Harvard to turn it down so he can attend Maryland. Maryland's a good school, so I'm not going to say it's out of the question, but there's a bit of an uphill battle. If you've been to the campuses of the Floridas, Connecticuts, UCLAs, USC's etc, then you know "exactly" what I mean when I say that MD is facing an uphill battle when it comes to recruiting. Also, let's face it, the ACC is much more competitive nowadays and it's much harder to put together cohesive team. A couple of years ago, GW could do no wrong. Now, some would argue their team has fallen on harder times than MD. There are going to be bumps. Deal with it. Unfortunately, coaches like GW just don't get what's due to them (unless they've won the national championship within the last two years). Anyway, the next time anyone feels the urge to disparage GW, maybe you should remember the "other" team they beat to win the 2002 title -- Indiana. By the way, when was the last time IU won a national championship? Fear the turtle!

Posted by: Charles | August 4, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Ray Charles?

Posted by: Samuel | August 4, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Gary is a good coach not a great one that being said I'll take him over most of the ACC's coaches his problem is recruiting too many players get away from the terps, and good number of them come out of B/more you mean a kid would want to go to Syracuse(colder than s##t up there) rather than stay home become a hometown hero Gary needs assitants that can get the job done and that's just not happening. He needs help in a hurry because Debbie Yow is not his ally.

Posted by: | August 4, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

MD fans are fickle. I disagreed with Barr that a successor to Williams will do a better job in terms of recruiting talented BB players from the area. Indeed, that successor will still have to go against JTIII, who has won several recruiting battles with coach K outside of the Greater Washington Area, and Georgetown University, one of America's most prestigious academic institution, and one with a beautiful campus. UMD is not (and has never been) a glamorous program, and a new coach will not be able to change this reality.

Posted by: dcfan | August 5, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

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