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Bridges Looks for Fresh Start With Skins

Hoping to revive his career by joining the Washington Redskins, veteran offensive lineman Jeremy Bridges, arrested twice while with the Carolina Panthers, plans to prove "I'm not this animal that people think I am," he said today at Redskins Park.

Bridges, who signed Sunday with Washington, addressed his previous legal troubles and expressed optimism about earning a spot on the opening 53-man roster after participating in organized team activities at the complex. Bridges, 29, has started 39 games in six NFL seasons, and Washington is expected to conduct auditions at right tackle during training camp.

"I'm definitely here competing for a spot. You don't come to work just to show up and clock in," Bridges said. "The ultimate goal in this league is to start and play, I've been doing that for years, and I'm not going to stop now. There were "some unfortunate things I been through in Carolina, besides the good field play. I had a lot left. The thing about Carolina is they kind of frown on off-field incidents. I was unfortunate to have two of them when I was there."

Before training camp began in 2007, Bridges was arrested and charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly pointing a gun at a woman in a strip club parking lot in Charlotte. Bridges was found guilty at trial and received a 60-day suspended sentence and one year unsupervised probation. In addition, the court ordered Bridges to pay a $500 fine and participate in 60 hours of community service. The Panthers suspended him for two games at the start of the 2007 season.

In 2008, Bridges again was arrested in Charlotte and charged with simple assault and battery and communicating threats stemming from a confrontation at a restaurant during which Bridges shook a bottle of Dom Perignon champagne, wetting the clothes of others around his table as they were sprayed. There also was allegation that Bridges, who acknowledged he shook the champagne bottle while celebrating six months of marriage, got into a verbal confrontation with another patron and a physical confrontation with a bouncer. Bridges said that matter has been resolved in his favor and the incident will be expunged from his record.

In February, the Panthers released Bridges, who signed with the team as an unrestricted free agent in 2006. Two arrests were too much for the Panthers to overlook, Bridges said.

"Things happen and I can't blame nobody but myself. If I wouldn't even have been in that situation then I wouldn't have been in the situation.

"But I can't be mad at what's happened in my life. I'm a very religious man and God has a plan for everybody. You don't know what path he's going to lead you on, but whatever path he puts you on, you take off and you run. He brought me here and we're going to make the best of it."

Bridges impressed during his minicamp tryout, coaches said, and he could compete with longtime starting tackle Jon Jansen and third-year player Stephon Heyer for the first-string right tackle job. "I'm going to compete for the right tackle spot," said Bridges, listed at 6-feet-4, 326 pounds. That's just what it is. And it's all friendly competition. It's the NFL. That's what it's about. That's what keeps guys thriving.

"There's a draft every year 'cause somebody's going to [try to take] your position. ... I just want the people of the Washington, D.C., area, the dedicated Redskins fans, to know that they've got a great offensive lineman. I'm going to fight to do everything I can to make the team and contribute when I can."

By Jason Reid  |  May 6, 2009; 3:49 PM ET
 
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Jeremy Briges OG, Age 29, Ht: 6'4" Wt: 326 lbs.
2008 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 63

Comment: Bridges has been with three teams in his five years in the league. He was picked up by the Panthers and started all 14 games he played in 2006, and in 2007 he started 10 of the 13 games he played after being suspended at the beginning of the season for conduct detrimental to the team. He has some talent and teams keep trying to get him on the field. He is fairly athletic and has quick feet in a small area, and can use his long arms to control and steer defensive linemen past the play. Bridges can drive his feet to sustain blocks but just does not finish most blocks off like he should. He is a little stiff in the hips and can struggle to adjust and recover when he starts to lose it and will fall off some blocks. He has adequate lateral range in pass pro but does not recover and right himself very quickly against counter moves. He does not play as big as he measures and will get out-muscled more than you'd expect. If he can learn to devote himself to the game and keep his intensity level up he can be a very functional right tackle.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Let me be the first to say, if we can get Levi Jones, we'll at least have real depth. Can't say I'm super excited, though.

Posted by: temunley | May 6, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

this guy is going to be the week 1 starting RT

Posted by: bcarothers | May 6, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Jansen is going to play guard and lord let's hope he can learn the center position.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Let me be the first to say, if we can get Levi Jones, we'll at least have real depth. Can't say I'm super excited, though.

Posted by: temunley | May 6, 2009

Violently "Haynesworth-like" Agree!!!

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I wish him the best and hope he gets it together to be productive, but please don't bring the lord into this! I hate when guys point guns at women and attribute it to "Gods plan". Just stay out of trouble and earn your spot, JB.

Posted by: AdamCr | May 6, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone really think we have the cap room for Levi Jones. He's gonna want 2.5 - 3 mill a year and someone with cap room probably will offer that.

Posted by: will_ga | May 6, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

So we've got Heyer, Jansen, Mike Williams, and Bridges all competing for the starting RT spot?

And possibly Marko Mitchell, Kelly Washington, DJ Hackett, Roydell Williams, Trent Shelton, and James Thrash all fighting for the 5th WR spot?

You gotta at least be pleased that the team isn't simply resting on what they already have, even if it is done a little late (like after the draft). And I like the fact that a lot of the players being brought in actually have NFL experience.

Posted by: psps23 | May 6, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

There were "some unfortunate things I been through in Carolina, besides the good field play. I had a lot left. The thing about Carolina is they kind of frown on off-field incidents. I was unfortunate to have two of them when I was there."

The Redskins don't frown on anything now that Gibbs 2.0 is fully out the door. It should be a nice training camp fight with AH and Bridges battling it out in the trenches this summer for 6 weeks. Have the Virginia State Police on standby...

Posted by: rich20ssu | May 6, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I imagine someone can afford to give Levi more than the vet min so that will be tough, but it'd be nice.

Posted by: AdamCr | May 6, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

So we've got Heyer, Jansen, Mike Williams, and Bridges all competing for the starting RT spot?

And possibly Marko Mitchell, Kelly Washington, DJ Hackett, Roydell Williams, Trent Shelton, and James Thrash all fighting for the 5th WR spot?

Vinny's and his staff appear to be doing their level best to cobble/hack something together for the offense given the limitations of the salary cap and meager number of draft picks.

Throw Jansen in with the guards and centers. That is where he now belongs given his limited mobility.

Assume Heyer, Williams, Bridges are there to replace guys they used to have like Todd Wade, Jason Fabini ... in other words backups to Samuels. The RT position seems clearly up for grabs. Bridges, Williams and Heyer can play guard as well.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone really think we have the cap room for Levi Jones. He's gonna want 2.5 - 3 mill a year and someone with cap room probably will offer that.

Posted by: will_ga | May 6, 2009

By releasing Thrash, Cartwright, and/or Rabach. It may be necessary to field a viable OL plus depth.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Bring in Levi Jones and we can legitimately say that we have depth along the O Line. Mike Williams, given his weight and time away will likely not be ready to unseat anyone for at least a year.

Let Bridges, Heyer, and Jones battle it out at RT, and put the best guy there. Worst case scenario we end up with Bridges as starting RT and Heyer his backup, Samuels at LT with Jones ( a legit LT ) his backup.

THEN we have some real depth. Jansen can contribute as our backup Center...and we have fexibiity at the backup line spots.

TAKE LEVI. He's a good player.

Posted by: MadeRED | May 6, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo column coming soon

May 6, 2009 1:34 PM

Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley

Because of the tragic scene at Valley Ranch, I sort of lost touch with the Redskins' and Eagles' minicamps over the weekend. Most of you guys were very understanding and we really appreciate that.

I had a chance to visit with Brian Orakpo via phone Sunday afternoon and you can read what he said in my weekly Thursday column, which normally goes live at about 1 p.m. ET. Meanwhile, check out some of the pictures that Redskins blogger Matt Terl took over the weekend.

It's pretty hard for a player to look menacing when he's posing on a raquetball court, but Orakpo pulls it off. In the column, we'll talk about his transition to linebacker and playing next to defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth. The two are already experimenting with some of the same stunts that he and Titans defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch once used.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Let Bridges, Heyer, and Jones battle it out at RT, and put the best guy there. Worst case scenario we end up with Bridges as starting RT and Heyer his backup, Samuels at LT with Jones ( a legit LT ) his backup.

Jones would likely start at RT. Then if Samuels goes down shift left (Just like Heyer had to do last year and the year before.) The others would provide the depth (Jansen, Williams, Bridges, and Heyer).

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"If I wouldn't even have been in that situation then I wouldn't have been in the situation."

If the football thing doesn't work out at least he can fall back on philosophy.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 6, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Broncos may pursue Levi Jones

May 6, 2009 3:36 PM

Posted by ESPN.com's Bill Williamson

A source close to the situation said the Denver Broncos are one of a handful of teams expressing interest in left tackle Levi Jones, who was cut by Cincinnati on Wednesday.

Denver would only pursue Jones as a backup. The team has Ryan Clady, who earned second-team All-Pro honors as a rookie in 2008. The Broncos are fairly thin at backup tackle.

Jones is a veteran and would be a strong insurance policy. Jones has only played left tackle so Denver would likely only be interested in him as a backup to Clady.

Jones wants to pursue starting jobs. He'd likely be more interested in potential openings in Buffalo or Detroit. If the Denver option becomes appealing to Jones, expect it to be down the road if the starting possibilities dry up.

Don't expect Oakland and Jones to come to an agreement. The Raiders have just signed Khalif Barnes to play left tackle. Jones and Barnes have the same agent.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Options for Levi Jones, Interested: Bills? Cardinals?

The Cincinnati Bengals officially cut Levi Jones today, making No. 6 overall draft pick Andre Smith the presumptive starter at left tackle to open the 2009 season unless something catastrophic happens.

For Jones, this opens up the possibilities of signing with a new team, although he has had some injury issues over the past few seasons. Over the course of the past three campaigns, he's played in just 31 games, and was inactive after a leg injury during the tenth game of 2008. Still, he's a starting-capable player at one of the football's most vital positions, so it's pretty certain someone will give him a shot.

While Jones had previously mentioned some interest on the part of the Arizona Cardinals, it's pretty much a total certainty that the Buffalo Bills will do their due diligence on him as well. The Bills parted ways with Jason Peters in a well-publicized trade, failed to replace him in the draft, and will instead try out Langston Walker as his replacement if no further moves are made. Jones was slated to make around $3 million in salary in 2009, and either the Bills or Cards could afford a similar pact.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

This roster is starting to look like the "misfit" laden roster of the 70's raiders.....let's hope we can win as many games and more SB's than they did though. If we can coax Kenny Stabler or Jim Plunkett out of retirement we'll be set. If JC17 stinks it up this year we will need to pickup the equivalent of when the Raiders got Plunkett. Can't really think of any of today's QB's who would be considered journeymen or nothing left in the tank that I would want though. Maybe somebody like John Kitna……I know, I know, that’s a total reach…..I'm just sayin....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 6, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Best case scenario?

LT Samuels
LG Dockery
C Jansen
RG Williams
RT Bridges

Tell me that's not an improvement over last year.

Posted by: brian71490 | May 6, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Is there a market for Pete Kendall? Interested: Redskins? Lions? Cowboys?

Free agent guard Pete Kendall is still without a team, but according to the Washington Times he's not too stressed out about it.

Kendall is back in Massachusetts this offseason, where he'll probably be waiting until later this summer to start receiving offers. Even then, it's likely he'll have to compete for a starting job. Kendall has been a starter through the majority of his NFL career, an era that started with the Seattle Seahawks and continued with the Arizona Cardinals and New York Jets before his latest stint with the Washington Redskins. Both the Detroit Lions and Dallas Cowboys have been mentioned as possibilities for Kendall, and it's also possible the Redskins could bring Kendall back as a second-string option behind Derrick Dockery, who was signed earlier this offseason.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

There were "some unfortunate things I been through in Carolina, besides the good field play. I had a lot left. The thing about Carolina is they kind of frown on off-field incidents. I was unfortunate to have two of them when I was there."

The Redskins don't frown on anything now that Gibbs 2.0 is fully out the door. It should be a nice training camp fight with AH and Bridges battling it out in the trenches this summer for 6 weeks. Have the Virginia State Police on standby...

Posted by: rich20ssu

Oh man, I caught that too. Couldn't believe he said that. Its like, in Carolina, they care if you mess up. Here in DC, not so much.

I sure hope it was something that came out wrong or got written up incorrectly.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 6, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Jeremy Bridges, arrested twice while with the Carolina Panthers, plans to prove "I'm not this animal that people think I am," he said today at Redskins Park.

By Jason Reid | May 6, 2009; 3:49 PM ET

Jeremy, you're an animal until Cork says otherwise. He's the self-appointed judge of character in these here parts.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 6, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"If I wouldn't even have been in that situation then I wouldn't have been in the situation."

If the football thing doesn't work out at least he can fall back on philosophy.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 6, 2009 4:20 PM

This is a variant on that popular new tautology, "It is what it is."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 6, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

On Levi Jones and Pete Kendall. Their value increases over time. The first time a guy strains something in preseason, their value goes up.

Last year, when Daniels and Buzbee went down, the price for Jason Taylor went way up. Same thing.

There will be guards and tackles that come up injured in preseason or early in the year and guys like Kendall and Jones will be able to get 'full market' rates for their services.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 6, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Best case scenario?

LT Samuels
LG Dockery
C Jansen
RG Williams
RT Bridges

Tell me that's not an improvement over last year.

Posted by: brian71490 | May 6, 2009

That would be HUGE LINE! Be great if it could happen?

Or

LT Levi Jones Chris Samuels Stephon Heyer
LG Derrick Dockery
C Jon Jansen E. Williams
RG Mike Williams Randy Thomas
RT Chris Samuels Jeremy Bridges
TE Fred Davis Todd Yoder

SE Chris Cooley, ARE

WR Santana Moss

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Peri do you really think letting rock and rabach go is worth Levi jones? Rock is valuable on teams way beyond kick returns (he took over archuletas vaunted personal punt protector role!), he has a knack for the big return at key times, and he's not too expensive. Casey, meanwhile is a "core redskin" and aside from a few penalties that were worrisome, was solid last year and seems to be very sharp calling out assignments etc. I'm not yet sold on Jansen or the kid edwin at center, and who knows about the new speedsters or maybe ladell on returns. Also rock doesn't fumble. Seems like taking our chances developing something makes more sense than (typically) paying for the latest available FA.

Posted by: AdamCr | May 6, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Best case scenario?

LT Samuels
LG Dockery
C Jansen
RG Williams
RT Bridges

Tell me that's not an improvement over last year.

Posted by: brian71490 | May 6, 2009 4:24 PM


brian, I too like the idea of Mike Willimas playing the guard (wish he could take over for Randy Thomas next year, but he provides depth if nothing else at least) position, his height prevents him from doing so. he surely has the weight, but at 6-6 playing with a low base is very hard for him.

Jansen may also be too tall to play center, again playing with a low base is vital to interior linemen.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 6, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Best case scenario?

LT Samuels
LG Dockery
C Jansen
RG Williams
RT Bridges

Tell me that's not an improvement over last year.

Posted by: brian71490 | May 6, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse


Jansen at center is a best-case scenario?

How about our current starting center continues to start at center.

Jansen as a back-up center/guard (assuming he can adequately learn the position) is a "best-case scenario" given the drop off of his abilities at tackle and the fact that we can't cut him right now...

Posted by: p1funk | May 6, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Best case scenario is 5 guys who can play well on the OL all season long. As for the names on the jersey, I'm less picky on that.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 6, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

The gun thing is disturbing.

The champagne-bottle thing is lame. Sounds like some restaraunt patron found out it was an NFL player and decided to call a lawyer to see what they could get out of the situation.

Anyhow, it seems like signing Bridges is a decent move to bolster the line; definitely has more promise than the Mike-Williams-Reclamation-Project...

Posted by: p1funk | May 6, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

shout out to AdamCr for using the name 'Rock Cartwright', the phrase 'Core Redskin', and implying that a special teamer is irreplaceable or non-expendable.

someone just f'n kill me now please, gawwwwwwwwwwwwwd........

*ugh*

Posted by: RedDMV | May 6, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Jansen as a back-up center/guard (assuming he can adequately learn the position) is a "best-case scenario" given the drop off of his abilities at tackle and the fact that we can't cut him right now...

Posted by: p1funk | May 6, 2009

6' nothing Rabach tends to get brutalized by larger defensive tackles. This is evident in the large number of sacks he has allowed and the fumbled exchanges. Jansen is a 6'6" ornery ex-tackle. If he could learn the position and has the desire to start there he could potentially brutalize those same DT's.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like Mr. Bridges should just generally avoid restaurants and parking lots generally (that and probably not ever hang out with Albert Haynesworth).

That said, feels like there is a real, legitimate, and interesting little competition coming up at the starting spot for right tackle ... Jeremy Bridges, Mike Williams, and Stephon Heyer. My head is with Mr. Short Temper. My heart is with Mr. Super Mega Grande. My money remains on Mr. Thighs, Stephon Heyer.

Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

*ugh*

Posted by: RedDMV | May 6, 2009

He is expendable mostly because of the lunacy practiced this off season and in the past with respect to the salary cap.

He is over 30. He is 3rd string on the depth chart. The KO returns are going to become more like punt returns this coming season. They signed 2 ultra fast scat backs, a receiver or two and a db's who can return punts/kick offs.

Why do you think they did that?

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

am I the only one who thinks that Jansen being 6-5, probably shouldn't play center.

seems like he'd just get knocked backwards by a dude like Warren Sapp (6-1, 300), or can use quickness to get around Jansen.

I cringe when I think about him lining up across from a 3-4 NT.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 6, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

"The Redskins don't frown on anything now that Gibbs 2.0 is fully out the door. It should be a nice training camp fight with AH and Bridges battling it out in the trenches this summer for 6 weeks. Have the Virginia State Police on standby...

Posted by: rich20ssu | "

really?

dude, gimme a break. Stop being so darn overdramatic.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 6, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

My money remains on Mr. Thighs, Stephon Heyer.
Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2009

Too valuable as a cheap, eager, adaptable backup who is more than willing to learn every position on the line. He seems a bit too fragile and still lacks many of the basics required to be a starter.
He is the perfect "swing man" in today's NFL. Why use him any other way?

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

As long as he can play on the offensive line that's fine. It's clear he's no Voltaire:

""Things happen and I can't blame nobody but myself. If I wouldn't even have been in that situation then I wouldn't have been in the situation."

Posted by: nativedc | May 6, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Best case scenario?

brian

LT Samuels
LG Dockery
C Jansen
RG Williams
RT Bridges

Tell me that's not an improvement over last year.


Brian, by season's end, this line might just be the one that's starting, given the issues of age and injury.

Mike Williams has to get healthy. Saving him to midseason will give him even more time to prepare.

Jansen has got to prove he's better than Rabach.

Bridges has to be better than Heyer and let 'God's hands' keep his in his pocket and out of scrip clubs.

This also means Thomas and Rabach are placed on the bench as backups: still an ungrade as they're not starting, but can if they have to.

Brian--I like this.

You get the gold star for thinking ahead of the curve.

BTW: shocker_1 is curious about your nationality.

If he asks, tell him you're a redskins' fan, as that's all that matters in this blog.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 6, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

am I the only one who thinks that Jansen being 6-5, probably shouldn't play center.
seems like he'd just get knocked backwards by a dude like Warren Sapp (6-1, 300), or can use quickness to get around Jansen.
I cringe when I think about him lining up across from a 3-4 NT.
Posted by: RedDMV | May 6, 2009

As a tackle he had to learn to get really low, especially on the running plays in which he excels. A center just has to snap the ball while taking hits. Its the mobility of a Sapp to get around him that would be key. As a tackle out in space without any mobility he gets in trouble. But at Center he would have the 2 guards around him to help close those gaps.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

no, peri, you have me misunderstood, let me be clear:

ROCK CARTWRIGHT IS F'N EXPENDABLE

Totally, to the max, to the fullest extreme...

I don't get the school boy crush on a dude that plays special teams. I really don't.

peri, all those reasons you named are the very same things I've been thinking RE: one Rock Cartwright.

great guy, but great guys don't win games. especially when you're only on the field for SPECIAL f'n TEAMS.

the Cartwright salivating must cease, soon you won't have a choice, he's going to get cut.

thnxs 4 da memories...

Posted by: RedDMV | May 6, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I do agree the champagne 'charges' are totally lame. You apologize, pick up the dry cleaning bill for the people you hosed and maybe a dinner certificate. At most, its small claims court. Anything more than that is just dumb.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 6, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

the core redskin was in quotes bc of sarcasm, swifty.

But I do think it's a risk to replace the center for unproven guys on an oLine that's already in flux.

Besides that, reddmv, it's easy to think special teamers are expendable until they're not. Ask the eagles a couple years ago. Gibbs always put a premium on teams, and for good reason.

Peri, fair enough point on the new kick returns.

Maybe these we speed backs will warrant a spot, but for now I'm not ready to overhaul the lineup so we can get Levi, a guy who seems to have a shawn springs knack for stating on the field.

Posted by: AdamCr | May 6, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

RedDMV, Rock C. might be expendable ... but if so, then Marcus Mason becomes IRREPLACEABLE (except, of course, if the Skins can re-land Leigh Torrence).

Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Serious question.

Has anyone from the redskins FO reached out to Darrell Green to set up meetings with all the bad boys they've been rehabbing?

Reading about Bridges, it appears he's fixable. Cody Glenn needs some Media Skills. Darrell can make sure Albert stays angry bug doesn 't redecorate any cowboy AFTER the whistle.

NO! to reacquiring Mix. Anthony Mix, if convicted, should be assigned to the short eye wing of whatever prison he goes to, and roomed with a guy with a 13 year old daughter and a mean streak.

Posted by: TheCork | May 6, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"If I wouldn't even have been in that situation then I wouldn't have been in the situation." - Jeremy Bridges

You know, I like this line. As t_e pointed out, it's sort of like the phrase 'it is, what it is'.

Makes me think of one of my all-time favorite lines from 'The Wire':

The thing 'bout da ol' days, dey was da ol' days" - Slimm Charles

It makes sense, because it's true. Not everyone is a quote machine or a philosopher.

You are who you are.

(See, another one of those "duh" phrases)

Posted by: RedDMV | May 6, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm a big Rock fan but yeah, if he has to go he has to go. He's actually better on kick returns than some give him credit for, but I think that can be replaced pretty easily.

I'll miss 'em when he's gone, but won't really worry too much about it.

PS - he IS the definition of "True Redskin"!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 6, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

"The Redskins don't frown on anything now that Gibbs 2.0 is fully out the door. It should be a nice training camp fight with AH and Bridges battling it out in the trenches this summer for 6 weeks. Have the Virginia State Police on standby...

Posted by: rich20ssu | "

really?

dude, gimme a break. Stop being so darn overdramatic.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 6, 2009 4:41 PM |

With Truth on that. And, how can you say they "don't frown on anything?" They spotted trouble with Anthony Mix and sent him out the door.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 6, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Btw I'm not salivating over rock, far from it. I was ready to see him go last year when he wanted that raise.

But before we anoint these speed guys just yet, I'd like to know why the good lord was so kind to let the redskins be the team to give them a shot in the NFL? Are we now saying we have the leagues best scouting personnel? All I'm saying is let some people play a preseason game or at least put on pads before we get too excited here.

Posted by: AdamCr | May 6, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

What's wrong with Rabach? The only reason they are trying Jansen out at center is because they have to do SOMETHING with him ... they can't afford to cut him.

But you know, Randel El was averaging a little more than six yards per punt return. If that was good enough, I bet Jansen could move the ball six yards per punt caught ... not as fast as Randel El, but I bet he could get six yards once he got started.

Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

sween, it's all about Marcus Mason.

always.

"FREEMASON FOR THE '09 BAY-BEE!!!!!"

Posted by: RedDMV | May 6, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

... Cody Glenn needs some Media Skills. ...

Posted by: TheCork | May 6, 2009 4:59 PM

Its not certain that that is his real name.

Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Rock should stay. He's not expensive, he does a good job on kick returns, plays on all the teams and is serviceable as a 3rd RB. He is a good solution to a bunch of problems.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 6, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

"Core Redskin" = "True Redskin" = Predictions per a schedule release = power rankings

Posted by: RedDMV | May 6, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

But before we anoint these speed guys just yet,

Posted by: AdamCr | May 6, 2009

RedDMV, AdamCr,

Rock, Thrash, and Rabach are all targets because they negotiated contracts in which all or most of their money is in salary as opposed to deferred bonuses (like Jansen, CP, ARE) for example. The other players had smarter agents who took full advantage of Snyder's largesse and naivete when it came to the salary cap.

Yes, its true, in a sense they may be "punished" because they were honest about how and when they should be payed. And because Snyder and Cerrato are such dolts when it comes to signing shiny "chick crack" house-hold name players for exorbitant sums while juxtaposing them in the salary cap.

Rabach is an an undersized, but hard working player. The Ravens drafted FOUR centers to replace him and eventually did because of his stature and who they had to face in their division. Cincinnati with Lewis, and Pittsburgh. The Ravens are probably the smartest team in football when it comes to building teams through the draft with just the right number of FA's. Their success with this is ballyhooed on every sports portal. Rabach couldn't cut it there because of his size.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Its not certain that that is his real name.
Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2009

Maybe he was signed by Jim Bowden in the Dominican Republic?

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Rock was 6th in total kickoff return yards, 11th in average (only .5 yards from being 7th). How is that a problem?

The Skins need to prioritize their actions -- jettisoning a top ten KR should not be on the list.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 6, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

As a tackle he had to learn to get really low, especially on the running plays in which he excels. A center just has to snap the ball while taking hits. Its the mobility of a Sapp to get around him that would be key. As a tackle out in space without any mobility he gets in trouble. But at Center he would have the 2 guards around him to help close those gaps.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

The center also has to call out the stunts, the split adjustments, and blitz gaps of SS, Wheel, Mike, or SAM to the interior lineman. This is what scares me about Jansen, I know he's physically capable just don't know about the intangibles. That's were an experienced center comes into play as opposed to convert. Hopefully though Buges will coach him up.

Posted by: clark202 | May 6, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

The center also has to call out the stunts, the split adjustments, and blitz gaps of SS, Wheel, Mike, or SAM to the interior lineman. This is what scares me about Jansen, I know he's physically capable just don't know about the intangibles. That's were an experienced center comes into play as opposed to convert. Hopefully though Buges will coach him up.

Posted by: clark202 | May 6, 2009

Finally someone who may have actually played the position. And who elaborated the real problem statement.

Yes, its a big reach. Purportedly intelligent Jansen was asked to try the center position last year. They appear to be trying harder this year. Its hard for the guy to let go of the tough guy tackle mentality. The center is typically the "geek" of the line, often smarter than the QB when it comes to the offense the team is running. Bostic was really good at that, and a lot smarter than people gave him credit for. Yet Gibbs and Bugel attempted to replace him with a much larger and stronger Grimm at one point. When Grimm went down with an injury Bostic returned and never lost the job again under Gibbs.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Makes sense peri. But rabach is much more effective outside baltimores division. If he's a cap casualty because of contract structure, that's a shame but I understand. But I don't think it's as easy as slip Jansen in there and we're good to go, which it sounds like some others are saying.

Posted by: AdamCr | May 6, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

The Skins need to prioritize their actions -- jettisoning a top ten KR should not be on the list.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 6, 2009

Z, they have no "wiggle room" in the salary cap when it comes to finding replacements to plug in if there is an injury. They are going to have to cut one or all of those guys to provide it before the season starts. Unless they renegotiate contracts again. And I think they have done as much of that as the players' agents will allow. But you never know.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

But I don't think it's as easy as slip Jansen in there and we're good to go, which it sounds like some others are saying.

Posted by: AdamCr | May 6, 2009

No, you're right. Its not. But I can see Cerrato and Zorn going to Buges because of the cap, using his stature as rationale. And they still need a backup center, they still have none. E. Williams may not be the solution. In some respects Jansen offers a far more viable one. He is familiar with the line, and at least 5 different offenses. I don't think Bugel would try it if he didn't think it had a chance.

Jansen needs to forget the tackle position. He can no longer manage that position. The fact he lost his job to Heyer whose fundamentals are far inferior should have sent the message loud and clear. Its up to him to adapt or ...

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if this has been brought up yet (I would be surprised if it hasn't) but one of last year's preseason loves of this blog (I am guilty) Anthony Mix was arrested for having sex with a 15 year old.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 6, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Serious question.

Has anyone from the redskins FO reached out to Darrell Green to set up meetings with all the bad boys they've been rehabbing?

D. Green apparently does not think much of Mr. Snyder and Mr. Cerrato. But you make a great point. They would listen to him because he is the man.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

One negative behind Jansen trying out at center has been astutely made: Edwin Williams (a young player Moe is rooting for) will miss out on reps will Jansen 'learns' to play a center he'll never master given his lenght and age.

They have nothing else to do with Jansen and because he's owed loot, they have got to put him to work doing something other than playing a position where his time is up: tackle.

Jon Jansen is indeed a nice guy. He has a media career like Schlereth when it's all over.

But his remaining on the team well after his prime is another example of how overpaying and re-doing deals for older vets has been bad policy for the team.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 6, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: leevi98 | May 6, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

But his remaining on the team well after his prime is another example of how overpaying and re-doing deals for older vets has been bad policy for the team.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 6, 2009

The only one of many hard lessons Snyder has finally learned after all this time ... you are right ... but if Jansen could be converted, and he is still a major plus in the running game ...

Moe, if Jansen starts, Rabach gets released. E. Williams will get plenty of reps believe me. Just because releasing Rabach is good for the salary cap.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

D. Green apparently does not think much of Mr. Snyder and Mr. Cerrato. But you make a great point. They would listen to him because he is the man.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 5:34 PM |

I would like you to back that statement up with some proof.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 6, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if this has been brought up yet (I would be surprised if it hasn't) but one of last year's preseason loves of this blog (I am guilty) Anthony Mix was arrested for having sex with a 15 year old.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 6, 2009 5:32 PM

Sorry, not arrested, he was indicted.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 6, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

I would like you to back that statement up with some proof.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 6, 2009

NO, because the last time I shoved one of your challenges down your narrow turkey throat I got accused of inundating this blog with posts. Someone even began comparing the number of my posts to those of others.

Go fish dude. I ain't your research assistant.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

"Rabach is an an undersized, but hard working player. The Ravens drafted FOUR centers to replace him and eventually did because of his stature and who they had to face in their division. Cincinnati with Lewis, and Pittsburgh. The Ravens are probably the smartest team in football when it comes to building teams through the draft with just the right number of FA's. Their success with this is ballyhooed on every sports portal. Rabach couldn't cut it there because of his size.Posted by: periculum"

More of the same: confident assertions that haven't been (or can't be) verified. A Periculum trademark. Here's a more realistic account:

Rabach was drafted in 2001 in the 3rd round after a career at Wisconsin. He worked his way up to the starting role with the Ravens in 2004. At the completion of the 2004 season, he was signed away by the Skins, who saw him as a real upgrade over their own roster of centers. He has been successful in that role. His strength is his intelligence and his consistency. The Skins have indicated a desire for a competent backup for Rabach, possible Jon Jansen, but there has been no move in Washington to replace him. He is not considered a weak link in the offensive line. He is getting older, of course.

The Ravens were ultimately successful in replacing Rabach with Jason Brown, a converted guard/tackle who started his first game in December of 2005. Cris Chester, generally considered something of a bust, was able to partially revive his career with a move to guard. Brown, meanwhile, decided to leave the Ravens for St. Louis. This was attributed by the Baltimore media to Ozzie Newsome's reluctance to sign interior linemen to big contracts. Marshall Yanda is listed as center on the Ravens' depth chart for 2009, with Chester as backup.

Brown is considered a top-flight run blocker whose pass blocking has improved noticeably.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 6, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I like this signing. It gives me hope that the O might actually do something this year. 2nd year in the system, Campbell's a year older, Jansen and R Thomas are further away from their injuries and they might have a fairly legit RT. Buges can get the most out of these guys can't he?

If this line can hold (and that's a big if) then the likes of Portis, Moss, Cooley and the triplets might be able to do something this year.

The D should be nasty, I mean nasty! I can see 9-7 if this team stays relatively healthy.

Posted by: atari1317 | May 6, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Releasing Rabach = not gonna happen = power rankings

Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

That's what I thought perineum, your statements are nothing but lies and you should be ashamed of yourself. But of course you're too stupid to be so you will keep posting your lies that you can't back up because that's what children with computers do.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 6, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I don't care how Bridges describes himself. If he was convicted of holding someone at gunpoint, he's a thug. If he sprayed a restaurant full of people because it was his anniversary... well that's cute in movies but totally selfish in real life.

I'm surprised we beat Jerry Jones or the Bengals to this guy.

Posted by: drischord | May 6, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

But seriously, who among us hasn't pointed a gun in someone's face? [I mean, other than you and I].

Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

peri

A guy in today' NFL listening to D Green because he is '..the man...'?

pfffftttttt.....NOT!!!!!!!!

These guys all go to the rookie symposium where Roger 'God' Goodell himself tells them to protect 'the shield' or else and they still screw up.

They see, read, and laugh about Ricky Williams, Pacman, and Lawrence Phillips, and still get high, beat their girlfriends, and blame a lack of 25 year old self-management on their anger.

You and I would avoid any of our old friends if they were unscrupulous once we made a mint. These guys go back to the old 'hood to show off what they got to people who'd flash a weapon to take it away.

Strippers? Stay away Green/Goodell would say, but these guys like a club full of money-grubbing stiletto vampires intent on making sure "You Are The FATHER!!"

Today's pro player--as A Rod himself would tell you--are all sun-kings in a universe of easy sex, money, and 24 hour media adoration.

And nothing but unemployed ever seems to get their ear.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 6, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

redDMV, mad props for the wire quote. best show ever

Posted by: amsaul | May 6, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

This is a variant on that popular new tautology, "It is what it is."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 6, 2009 4:28 PM

Not really. He's actually talking about two distinct situations. Let me break it down for you my ebonically-challenged friend.

When he says: "If I wouldn't even have been in that situation then I wouldn't have been in the situation."

What he means is: If I wasn't at the strip club (Situation 1), then I would not have become embroiled in a heated confrontation with a young "lady" that caused me to have to whip out my roscoe to shut her trick SJK up (Situation 2).

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 6, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

What he means is: If I wasn't at the strip club (Situation 1), then I would not have become embroiled in a heated confrontation with a young "lady" that caused me to have to whip out my roscoe to shut her trick SJK up (Situation 2).

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 6, 2009 5:54 PM |

Thanks, lh1. Way too subtle for me, but very clear seen through your eyes or heard through your ears.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 6, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Samson151 | May 6, 2009

More of the same: confident assertions that haven't been (or can't be) verified. A Periculum trademark. Here's a more realistic account:


In 2004 he started 16 games for the Ravens.
In 2003 he started 2 games out of 14 for the Ravens.
In 2002 he started 5 games out of 12 for the Ravens.
In 2001 he was not even active for any games.

He backed up Flynn most of the time he was there.

He was easily replaced by Brown their most recent draftee at center after everyone predicted disaster when the Ravens lost him as an FA.

He spent most of his time on the Ravens on the bench, spending only 1 year as a starter. Bugel himself said they found him "on the bench".

Yes, he is smart, he is talented. But he does have problems against the larger defensive tackles and nose tackles. And he isn't that much smaller than Jansen at 6' 4".

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

That's what I thought perineum, your statements are nothing but lies and you should be ashamed of yourself. But of course you're too stupid to be so you will keep posting your lies that you can't back up because that's what children with computers do.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 6, 2009

I am tired of unscrambling those scrambly brains for you dude. They aren't lies as I have often proven much to the chagrin of some because I can find postings to backup my statements.

Whereas in your case you have never stepped up to the plate as they say.

Go suck your thumb you bother me.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Moe, I'm not tripping on guys going to strip clubs. They are not my thing but they are a legal form of entertainment that business execs and other "up standing" citizens frequent. It's not the place, it's the person in the place and those he chose to ride with him. If you go into a strip club, restaurant, or amusement park with your knucklehead friends, act like you own the place, and treat others disrespectfully, the consequences that necessarily flow from there are the fault of the player not the establishment.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 6, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

And nothing but unemployed ever seems to get their ear.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 6, 2009

Yes, as CP and our latest "three amigos" continue to prove. You are unfortunately right.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Best "The Wire" character:

pick'em

Herc
The dead hookers in a can
The Greek
Stringer Bell
McNulty
Avon Barksdale
Micheal
Bunk
Lester Freeman
Kima
Rawls
Dukie Weems
Snoop Pearson
Prez
Namond
Clay "Sheeeeeeet" Davis
Mayor Carcetti
Omar
Ziggy
Prop Joe
Cutty

(thanks to the good people at HBO.com: who could remember all of this but Flounder??)

....and then there's favorite
Lt. Daniels

...and favorite episodes

"Hamsterdamn"

"Boys of Summer"

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 6, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Releasing Rabach = not gonna happen = power rankings

Posted by: dcsween | May 6, 2009

Salary cap. He appears to be an easy target, but I was surprised they didn't draft a center in the 3rd for that reason. So, you may be right.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I am tired of unscrambling those scrambly brains for you dude. They aren't lies as I have often proven much to the chagrin of some because I can find postings to backup my statements.

Whereas in your case you have never stepped up to the plate as they say.

Go suck your thumb you bother me.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 6:08 PM

The only thing you've ever proven is that you are borderlined retarded.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 6, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

learnedand

'...I'm not tripping on guys going to strip clubs...'

Count the number of 'player incidents' that occur somewhere near or because of a scrip club, and you might see what I mean.

A friend who hits a club in Miami says the NFL players come in late in Sunday night after a home game and literally take all the 'entertainment' for themselves, which, of course, upsets most of us making just or well under the league minimum.

The guys have to adhere to the idea they represent a league, history, and image.

Stay at home and order your women out if that's what's you have to do ('cuz true players know a 'party' you put together with paid up front entertainment beats hitting a club anyday.).

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 6, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

The only thing you've ever proven is that you are borderlined retarded.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 6, 2009

Coming from a guy who continues to prove he has the sapience of a slow moving spotted snail from Los Osos, that is a compliment.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Moe, that's a tough one. I love Lester Freamon (B'more name) but my favorite all-time scene is where Bunk Moreland tries to enlighten Omar about his impact on the community.

Omar had some of the best lines. "A man's gotta have a code." "Money ain't got no owners just spenders."

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 6, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Cooley out with a sore quad today. Why no posts about him being lazy and setting a bad example? Isn't the an example of "poor offseason conditioning"? I realize it's about the second practice he's missed in his entire tenure but I'm just saying...

Posted by: AdamCr | May 6, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

NO, because the last time I shoved one of your challenges down your narrow turkey throat I got accused of inundating this blog with posts.
Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 5:43

How many times would you be required to post to verify your questionable claims? Why don't you just go ahead and verify your statements and if anyone complains I'll tell them to hush.

Posted by: will_ga | May 6, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Moe said: Count the number of 'player incidents' that occur somewhere near or because of a scrip club, and you might see what I mean.

I know exactly what you mean and 9x out of 10 it's because as your friend told you the players come in a act like jackasses whether with the customers or the "entertainers." In the immortal words of the Godfather of Soul: "Static! Don't start none, won't be none."

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 6, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

6'4" and 325 pounds pointing a gun at a woman in a strip club parking lot?

Did I read that right. That's illogical. She did not have a knife, a 5-inch heel or what? Say the bouncers were about to jump him or something. he's to dang big to point a gun at a woman. this dude must be stupid. hopefully he has grown up, but usually that type of stupidity comes back as soon as they get comfortable again.

Posted by: oknow1 | May 6, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Listen up friends... this guy Bridges held me up, at gun point, and made me take off all of my clothes... then he made me tuck my privates away and told me to "walk and talk like a chicken."

... that said, I welcome him to the Washington Redskins!

Posted by: noseman4681 | May 6, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: oknow1 | May 6, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

My Football mind wants to know how does an interaction with a stripper ends up with pulling a gun.

I am not being super-judgmental, it is not like we are appointing him to the Supreme Court (although he can hold his own with Clarence long-dong Thomas-but I digress)

However, just for kicks, can someone hypothesize the circumstances for me? I can see if he had pulled out something else, but a gun?

Ok after this I promise I'll get back to football

Posted by: peaceful2008 | May 6, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

oknow1,

That link partially helps me. thanks ;-)

Posted by: peaceful2008 | May 6, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

periculum: "n 2004 he [Rabach] started 16 games for the Ravens.In 2003 he started 2 games out of 14 for the Ravens.In 2002 he started 5 games out of 12 for the Ravens.
In 2001 he was not even active for any games.
He backed up Flynn most of the time he was there"

That would be called 'player development'. Maybe a good sign for Chad Rinehart.

By the way, although Yanda can play center, the depth chart over in Baltimore changed when they signed Matt Birk, age 32, from the Vikings. Apparently the coaches felt that Yanda, Chester, and the other centers weren't yet ready.

Birk is known for his intelligence and consistency. He's thirteen pounds heavier than Rabach.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 6, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

I am confused. Was he celebrating 6 months of marriage at the strip club?

See there is such a thing as too much information. I bet I could have gone my entire life, watching Bridges become a pro-bowl OL for the Redskins without knowing the details of his past indiscretions....

Posted by: peaceful2008 | May 6, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

A couple quick hits:

-- Get Levi Jones. NOW.

-- Thank God that Anthony Mix is gone. This is f-ing gross:

Bucs Receiver Indicted
Posted by Mike Florio on May 6, 2009, 1:04 p.m.
Well, it’s once again time to re-set the arrest meter to zero.

Per our friends at Pewter Report, Tampa receiver Anthony Mix has been indicted for having sex with a minor.

Mix allegedly had a relationship with a 15-year-old girl.

He is charged only with contributing to the delinquency of a minor, which is a misdemeanor. He avoided indictment on felony charges of second-degree rape and sodomy.

Mix faces up to a year in prison and a $500 fine.

“One thing led to another and they decided to meet up,” Lester Banfield of the Bay Minette police told FOX 10 in Mobile/Pensacola. “We believe he was aware of the age of the girl. She snuck out of her house, they met, they had sex in the vehicle while it was parked on the street.”

Mix signed with the Bucs earlier this year, after spending 2008 out of football. He previously played for the Giants and the Redskins.

The Buccaneers had no comment.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 6, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

This may be interesting for those who feel that Jansen, a tackle, can't play center.

Matt Birk C 6'4" 306 lbs, 32 years old
2008 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 77

Comment: Birk is an 11-year veteran who has had an excellent NFL career. He has good size, strength and athleticism to be an effective pass and run blocker. He is extremely tough, smart and instinctive, which has enabled him to give veteran leadership to a talented offensive line. He understands power angles, body positioning and hand use to gain leverage. He is an excellent technician to be effective on combination blocks and can chip up to the second level. He uses his quickness and strength to anchor versus larger interior defenders as well as utilizing his speed, balance and agility to get on the perimeter and lock on to smaller players. Birk can lock on and stay connected effectively in almost any situation. He is a versatile athlete who has played tackle and could be effective almost anywhere along the offensive line. He is a valuable player who brings experience, toughness and leadership. But age has clearly has diminished his overall skills.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Casey Rabach C 6'4" 288 lbs, Age: 31
2008 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 70

Comment: Rabach is a veteran center who plays with good overall quickness and awareness. He has good size and athletic ability as a run blocker. He has good initial quickness with effective balance on contact. He has adequate strength to secure and sustain, but won't provide a lot of movement on his own. His game is quickness more than power. He can snap and step with good pad level on combo blocks. He has enough quickness to make the reach block and he secures the contact in flow. He will have trouble gaining movement on low leverage players, but he gives effort to occupy and stays with it well. He has very good balance and recovery skills. When pulling, he shows good quickness out of his stance and is athletic on the move. He can adjust showing good body control on the run. He has good awareness in pass protection. He will tend to get upright, but has the ability to sink his weight versus power rushers. A low power rusher can walk him back initially, but he does a good job of recovering if he starts to get off balance. He lacks the ideal strength to control opponents, once they get on his edge.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Levi Jones was released...I think they should give him a chance.

Posted by: SmallPen15 | May 6, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Let's see... a proven Offensive Lineman? No way! This is the Redskins, you know?

Posted by: temunley | May 6, 2009 3:52 PM

There has been a lot of people clamoring for the skins to sign Levi Jones. Afterall he was part of that heralded O line draft of 2002 (Mike Williams #4, Levi Jones #10). I'm just wondering what part of "still hampered by knee and leg problems" makes everyone think this guy is an upgrade to 76, 74, Bridges, or William. He's not walking thru that door for a min contract.
In other news the guy that is still looking for Santana Moss on that Monday night game a couple of years ago just signed with the bengals. Wonder if he will make the pro bowl this year without the star on his helmet.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonian.com/print/articles/8/41/6909.html

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 7:03 PM

Longest article ever written. Made the 3 part Gary Williams story seem like a blog.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Bridges and Haynesworth can crack open a bottle of Dom and play pedestrian tag with Haynesworth's Ferrari. That would be a real bonding experience. Gibbs would never take these guys on a team he coached. I understand that in Bridges case they are beyond desperate, but how low will you go Vinny? Thinking about bringing Mike Vick into camp?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 6, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

To the previous posts about the owner/FO...

I have no time to "hate" anyone let alone the owner of a sports team. I disagree with a lot of what he has done, but I believe he wants to win. Everyone is clamoring for a GM, but that does not always equal success. There are only a few elite teams in this league and there are GM's for some crappy team.

Let's look at the Wizards. Ernie Grunfeld is a well respected general manager in the NBA, but the Wizards have won nothing since 1978 and even when healthy, they are not contenders. They don't play defense and Gilbert Arenas has the organization in a choke hold. As talented as the Wizards are, there window is closing on any hopes of a championship.

A GM will not save the Redskins in the short run...This team is recovering from years of change and mismangement. I think Vinny is on the right track, but the jury is still out. Last year's draft picks must show for Vinny to amass any credibility. No one can argue that they have fortified a good defense that could be great. Maybe the plan is to stregthen the offense next year.

All that said, I don't hate Dan Snyder. I actually think Snyder may be receiving some of the fallout from some bad moves made under Gibbs 2.0.

Posted by: rickyroge | May 6, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Edwin williams won't see the field this year unless there are a few injuries because they are grooming him to replace Rabach next year when the skins release him.....after this seasons you can expect rabach, jansen, and thomas to all get released

Posted by: hillb03 | May 6, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

To the previous posts about the owner/FO...

I have no time to "hate" anyone let alone the owner of a sports team. I disagree with a lot of what he has done, but I believe he wants to win. Everyone is clamoring for a GM, but that does not always equal success. There are only a few elite teams in this league and there are GM's for some crappy team.

Let's look at the Wizards. Ernie Grunfeld is a well respected general manager in the NBA, but the Wizards have won nothing since 1978 and even when healthy, they are not contenders. They don't play defense and Gilbert Arenas has the organization in a choke hold. As talented as the Wizards are, there window is closing on any hopes of a championship.

A GM will not save the Redskins in the short run...This team is recovering from years of change and mismangement. I think Vinny is on the right track, but the jury is still out. Last year's draft picks must show for Vinny to amass any credibility. No one can argue that they have fortified a good defense that could be great. Maybe the plan is to stregthen the offense next year.

All that said, I don't hate Dan Snyder. I actually think Snyder may be receiving some of the fallout from some bad moves made under Gibbs 2.0.

Posted by: rickyroge | May 6, 2009 7:21 PM

Well said, I don't agree with you, but well said. The problem is not Dan the owner, the problem is Dan the GM. I would have much more respect if he would go all out Jerry Jones and add the title of GM to his title. There is a laundry list of blunders in his decade of ownership, and I'm not talking about the coaching turnover. We are all well aware of the fact that hiring a GM guarantees nothing, but the only constant in the last 10 years is Dan. The hiring of a GM would provide a gameplan however each year with their approach to current personel, Free agents, and the draft. Instead Dan seems to have a different approach each year only to end up with the same result. As far as Dan the owner, you have to love his willingness to go Steinbrenner and yet still manage the salary cap. I'm hoping that one day this proud franchise will become a constient winner despite Dan the GM.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Edwin williams won't see the field this year unless there are a few injuries because they are grooming him to replace Rabach next year when the skins release him.....after this seasons you can expect rabach, jansen, and thomas to all get released

Posted by: hillb03 | May 6, 2009

Seems likely given Snyder's new youth mantra. If Williams makes the team I expect he will see action. Their luck just doesn't seem all that great when it comes to injuries on the OL.

And in answer to rickroge:

I find it questionable when Vinny's (as opposed to Snyder's) moves seem almost lock-step with Mel Kiper. I don't see this happening with the Ravens and Patriots. And I think I have gotten pretty good at discerning the difference between Snyder's moves, Vinny's moves and Gibbs moves. So far Gibbs and Grilliams moves/drafts look pretty damned good. If not for tragedy imagine a defensive backfield that featured Sean Taylor and LaRon Landry. I sincerely doubt that was something either Vinny or Snidely would ever consider. Factor in Carlos Rogers and either Hall or Springs and you have 4 first round picks in your defensive backfield.

I know everyone here is so enthused about "beasts" here, "lions", and "tigers" and "bears" oh my rescuing the Skins with sacks ... they always seem to forget about the running game and making open field tackles ... something both Taylor and Landry excel at both in the passing and running defenses.

I also note that the Patriots seem to always go for defensive backs in the draft. And look how that has paid off for them.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

So it looks like Casey Rabach is a poor man's Matt Birk. Since Matt has been to the Pro Bowl every year from 2000 through 2007 -- and first team All Pro twice -- that sounds like a compliment.

All I can say is, the folks who are worrying about Rabach and Randle El are at the very least premature in their concern. The Skins have more pressing problems elsewhere. Why not spend a little time on them?

Posted by: Samson151 | May 6, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is, the folks who are worrying about Rabach and Randle El are at the very least premature in their concern. The Skins have more pressing problems elsewhere. Why not spend a little time on them?

Posted by: Samson151 | May 6, 2009

Oh, I don't know its kind of like worrying about MWash, Shawn Springs, Pete Kendall, et al. They were salary cap casualties. Because they did not have a young center behind Rabach (as the Ravens did) he wasn't released for salary cap reasons as they were. His contract makes him an easy target for salary cap relief as there's was.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Oh man, I caught that too. Couldn't believe he said that. Its like, in Carolina, they care if you mess up. Here in DC, not so much.

I sure hope it was something that came out wrong or got written up incorrectly.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 6, 2009 4:24 PM |
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Or maybe you're just reading into it what you want to read into it.

Neither this kid nor Haynesworth (or Cody Glenn) pulled their stunts off the field as Washington Redskins.

What makes you think this franchise would tolerate it?

Give an example, don't just hate.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | May 6, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Lezzzzzz seeee ... Grilliams is in Nawl Orleans right?

New Orleans Saints
2009 NFL DraftTracker
RD___PK (OVR)___NAME_______POS____SCHOOL
1----14--(14)---M. Jenkins-CB-----Ohio St
4----16--(116)--C. Vaughn---S-----W Forest
4----18--(118)--S. Arnoux--ILB----W Forest
5----28--(164)--T. Morstead-P-----SMU

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

The problem with replacing Rabach is deeper than him occasionally getting pushed around...Alright frequently. He is also responsible for calling some audibles and OL protection schemes on the field. The QB of the OL if you will and he is thought of highly on the team and with the staff.
Janson has zero chance of playing guard due to his lack of agility and age. His best chance to contribute is @ backup RT and C. He would have been cut if not for the master manipulation of the salary cap by Dan and now it has become cheaper to keep him. This is his last year.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

periculum: " also note that the Patriots seem to always go for defensive backs in the draft. And look how that has paid off for them."

Defensive backs -- particularly cornerbacks -- are the key to a lot of defensive sets these days. And safeties are edging that way, too.

The Pats draft a lot of them on the first day because they have trouble finding good ones. And when they do find keepers, they often leave (Asante Samuel and Ellis Hobbs). Terence Wheatley, a number two, hasn't played much at all. Brandon Meriwether started coming around in '08 after a slow rookie year. Jon Wilhite started a few games. This year they drafted Darius Butler, a CB, & safety Pat Chung.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 6, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Tuesday, May 5, 2009

METAIRIE, La. -- The New Orleans Saints cut receiver Biren Ealy and tight end Kolomona Kapanui on Tuesday, two days after the young players were arrested for allegedly being drunk and exposing themselves to two women in the parking lot of a suburban apartment complex where they live. The pair were arrested early Sunday morning in River Ridge by Jefferson Parish authorities, who booked the two players with obscenity, disturbing the peace and lewd conduct. Authorities alleged that they were drun ...

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Btw...rickyroge

I completely agree with your Wiz take and I would add that perhaps the biggest setback was hiring MJ as GM and him playing a one on one game with Kwame Brown and for what ever reason drafting him.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Tuesday, May 5, 2009

METAIRIE, La. -- The New Orleans Saints cut receiver Biren Ealy and tight end Kolomona Kapanui on Tuesday, two days after the young players were arrested for allegedly being drunk and exposing themselves to two women in the parking lot of a suburban apartment complex where they live. The pair were arrested early Sunday morning in River Ridge by Jefferson Parish authorities, who booked the two players with obscenity, disturbing the peace and lewd conduct. Authorities alleged that they were drun ...

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 8:05 PM

Are you an unpaid scout who is looking for potential additions to the road show they have assembled @ Redskin park?

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

The problem with replacing Rabach is deeper than ...
Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009

All too true. But it 'pears as if Bugel has been trying to give Jansen a way to resurrect his career if he is willing. If he did learn to play center, and became another Matt Birk, let's say. Do you think they would release him next year? I rather doubt it.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

The problem with replacing Rabach is deeper than ...
Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009

All too true. But it 'pears as if Bugel has been trying to give Jansen a way to resurrect his career if he is willing. If he did learn to play center, and became another Matt Birk, let's say. Do you think they would release him next year? I rather doubt it.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 8:10 PM

Agreed. The only problem if Jansen somehow overcomes his injuries and learns to play center is if for some reason JC17 fails and we goto 6'2 Brennan or even worse 5'10 Daniel. I can't wait for the preseason to see Daniel behind the center of a 6'6 Janson.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Thug a minute dregs will not solve the o-line's problems. Neither will DERRICK DOCKERY alone. Now if he brings his baggage(WILLIAMS) with him and its straight, I am willing to roll with that.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 6, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Interesting to again note that one Redskins defensive luminary gave way to yet another as GM in Detroit. Matt Millen to Martin Mayhew.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Interesting to again note that one Redskins defensive luminary gave way to yet another as GM in Detroit. Matt Millen to Martin Mayhew.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 8:24 PM

Look @ the big brain on you. Although from recent interviews it appears old #35 maybe over his head as well, even with what on paper seems to be a strong draft.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

check out the address for this discussion

......?????

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/-gratuitous-zorn-shot-gratuito.html

Posted by: peaceful2008 | May 6, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

There has been a lot of people clamoring for the skins to sign Levi Jones. Afterall he was part of that heralded O line draft of 2002 (Mike Williams #4, Levi Jones #10). I'm just wondering what part of "still hampered by knee and leg problems" makes everyone think this guy is an upgrade to 76, 74, Bridges, or William. He's not walking thru that door for a min contract. Even when healthy, he was average @ best. People see a top 10 pick (bust) and assume he is better than what we have not even considering how cap strung we are.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Periculum...you make some points but there are a few I disagree with...

Personnel moves under Gibbs were questionable. There was no committment to the development of young players, particularly JC. Gibbs allowed Brunell to play even when he knew he was hurt and couldn't throw. We had inferior talent on offense. Draft picks were thrown away for TJ Duckett and some free agents were overpaid busts. There were some good pickups and we had two playoff appearances.

I'm not as against Cerrato as many are because we still haven't seen the end of the movie. It is a fair point that Snyder does not know how to amass a championship team, and we should never be compared to the Patriots. I think a committment to an offensive system, the draft, and a coach here for a period of four or five seasons with the SAME system may bring us a championship.

Posted by: rickyroge | May 6, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

check out the address for this discussion

......?????

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/-gratuitous-zorn-shot-gratuito.html


Posted by: peaceful2008 | May 6, 2009 8:30 PM |
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That's hilarious.

How did that entry get tagged "gratuitous zorn shot?"

Cindy must have forgotten to rename JLC's original title before uploading it.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | May 6, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

rickyroge...

It's tough to knock Joe Jackson Gibbs, even Gibbs 2.0. I agree Duckett for a 3rd was a mistake, However I'm not sure Gibbs being loyal and playing veterans was entirely the wrong thing to do. I was as frustrated as anyone watching the 8 car throw horizontally and was begging for 17. From what you have seen from 17 was that a mistake given the fact that his learning cure is so severe and we have yet to see 17 deliver us to the playoffs. I just think the fact that Gibbs was able to take this roster to the playoffs 2 out of 4 years is another example of his genius.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

But that's my point Diesel...why is it that Gibbs gets to bask in the glory of 2 playoff runs in 4 years, but Vinny/Danny don't. Gibbs was the President of the team and should be praised and crticized as much as Danny should.

Posted by: rickyroge | May 6, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

You make a great point...Only the future will tell if Gibbs won despite Vinny and Dan, or if Vinny and Dan were part of the success. I'm partial to Gibbs but also hopeful as a skins fan that Vin and Dan are successful in the future.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Why would Gibbs sign Duckett when he had Portis? That has Snyder written all over it.

Any move that seems lopsided, silly, and a complete waste of money on a free agent probably was Snyder.

Reasonably good choices with some marginal errors: Gibbs, Grilliams.

Lower round draft picks that would never go anywhere but game him something to do to feel like he was a part of the process: Vinny.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

With Truth on that. And, how can you say they "don't frown on anything?" They spotted trouble with Anthony Mix and sent him out the door.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 6, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse
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Is Mix the player who was BFF with Jason Campbell from Auburn?

Maybe that whole QB controversy here in DC was a diversionary tactic.

Posted by: Xlnt | May 6, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Jeremy, you're an animal until Cork says otherwise. He's the self-appointed judge of character in these here parts.

Posted by: talent_evaluator

Process of elimination, dear boy.

How did it feel when the Turk tapped you and said "Come with me and bring your playbook?"

Posted by: TheCork | May 6, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Why would Gibbs sign Duckett when he had Portis? That has Snyder written all over it.

Any move that seems lopsided, silly, and a complete waste of money on a free agent probably was Snyder.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 9:35 PM

Not surprised that you posted this peri. the Duckett signing was not so long ago and as you seem to follow the Skins you should know that Duckett was signed when Portis was injured and was a Gibbs move.

With your many cut and paste post you obviously know how to google and should have before you posted that ignorance.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 6, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

You maybe right Periculum. I'm still not completely sure that Gibbs was in charge of shopping for the ingredients during Gibbs 2.0. I do know that Gibbs was responsible for what happen on the field and I'm sure he got the most out of what he had.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

This roster is starting to look like the "misfit" laden roster of the 70's raiders.....

Posted by: dlhaze1

T_E? This lad needs a stern talking down to.

Posted by: TheCork | May 6, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

But I don't think it's as easy as slip Jansen in there and we're good to go, which it sounds like some others are saying.

Posted by: AdamCr | May 6, 2009

This is the second year in a row they've tried that. I ssupect they abandoned it last year more because of the shallowness at ORT than Center.

Jansen is smart, he gets his butt up high, which Zorn has said is very hepful for campbell, and I should be big enough to handle large 3/4 noseguards who overpowered Rabach.


Posted by: TheCork | May 6, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Why would Gibbs sign Duckett when he had Portis?

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 9:35 PM

Hmmmm, let's ask PERICULUM

Exhibit A: do you really believe a loser like Clinton Portis will ever make it?

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 12:00 AM

Exhibit B: You must be an Iggles or Gints fan to want Portis to continue his losing ways for us.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 12:17 AM

Exhibit C: HE IS A LOSER.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 12:20 AM

Exhibit D: Hohum another year, I'm the owner's favorite player. I can say or do what I want. PORTIS IS A LOSER.

Posted by: periculum | May 6, 2009 12:38 AM

I dunno periculum, why would he???

Posted by: Vicc | May 6, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Here's an intesting point about the OL maneuvers, I haven't seen mentioned.

Last years the skins had one of the SMALLESt and oldest OLines in the NFL. They got worn out by midseason.

If, as some have speculated, the OL is as follows, look at the upgrades in size.

LT Samuels 310 NO CHANGE
LG Dock 335 40 pounds heavier than Kendall
C Jansen 310 15 pounds heavier than Rabach
RG Thomas 320 No Change
RT Williams 360-400 A Small child heavier than Jansen.

Now thems some Hogs

Posted by: TheCork | May 6, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Peri.

I couldn't help myself.

You reeled me right in.

Posted by: Vicc | May 6, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Please don't be too harsh.

You're always very bold with your responses.

Posted by: Vicc | May 6, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

I always find it ammusing at how easy it is for people to prove perineum the incumbent RI blog moron. I've got to give him credit though, he keeps coming back for more. Now I'm prepared to be told to spit nickles or mow the lawn.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 6, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

If, as some have speculated, the OL is as follows, look at the upgrades in size.

LT Samuels 310 NO CHANGE
LG Dock 335 40 pounds heavier than Kendall
C Jansen 310 15 pounds heavier than Rabach
RG Thomas 320 No Change
RT Williams 360-400 A Small child heavier than Jansen.

Now thems some Hogs


Posted by: TheCork |

Here is an addition to what you mentioned...
LT Samuels 310 NO CHANGE except older but hopefully healthier
LG Dock 335 40 pounds heavier than Kendall
C Jansen 310 15 pounds heavier than Rabach...not going to happen. Rabach starts
RG Thomas 320 No Change except yet again older and hopefully healthier
RT Williams 360-400 A Small child heavier than Jansen. not going to happen. Bridges or Heyer.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

"Agreed. The only problem if Jansen somehow overcomes his injuries and learns to play center is if for some reason JC17 fails and we goto 6'2 Brennan or even worse 5'10 Daniel. I can't wait for the preseason to see Daniel behind the center of a 6'6 Janson. Posted by: Diesel44"

The team wanted to replace Jansen last year, favoring Heyer as the superior pass blocker. Bugel brought up the idea of using him as a backup at center as a way to extend his usefulness. But Heyer got hurt and the team (with Jansen back at RT) started 6-2, on the back of the running game. No way for Zorn to return to Plan A. We all watched them play out that hand.

If you think about it. the mystery isn't why the Skins' run game struggled in the second half -- it's why teams hadn't stopped it before. It's easy to stop the run if you bring your secondary up to help. Then the passing game has to step up and punish the defense for that. Ours tried and wasn't very successful. The question we should be trying to answer is, why not? And so far, we haven't come up with much.

It's not about blame. It's not about reading what some anonymous scout writes about some player on some semi-credible website. It's about figuring out what's wrong and fixing it.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 6, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I’m enjoying new Redskins Trent Shelton’s Tweety Birds. Oh sure, he could waste time studying the playbook, but then we’d miss gems like this:

TrentShelton Question of the Day: What state is Washington, DC in??

TrentShelton Had a Good practice today got to go up against D.Hall!! Got me a TD on him!! (Bring back Leigh Torrence!)

TrentSheltonGot a party with @ldunlimited in Ft.Worth you know its going down!! Everybody know when i throw a party in Ft.Worth IT GOESS DOWN MAY 24th
(Hope he invites Bridges)

TrentShelton Is every girl in the world a MODEL?? Just because you take a pic doesnt make you one lol...but big up to the ones that are doing thier thing

TrentShelton That last statement was not to offen any "models" cuz if you doing your thing and are good it wasnt directed at you!! I love models!!

TrentShelton Got Some HUGE things in the works man!! Just trying to put my city on!! Im not selfish I want EVERYBODY to get a taste of the GOOD LIFE

TrentShelton bout time oprah do something for niggaz...aint no white people gonna be at kfc lol

TrentShelton the lady at the hotel im staying at till i move thurs. is giving me free room service, free everything cuz she likes me lol

TrentShelton If I had one wish I would wish that Everybody in the World would go to heaven

Posted by: TheCork | May 6, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Jeremy, you're an animal until Cork says otherwise. He's the self-appointed judge of character in these here parts.

Posted by: talent_evaluator

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Jeremiah was a bullfrog.

Q.E.D.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | May 6, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

As some of you know I am a Bengals fan 1st (doomed to be so by where I was born).

So of all of the group I am particularly depressed by the lack of character of recent signees, esp. Bridges.

Not so much because low character players are lower odds (they are), but because it is such a betrayal of Gibbs 2.0.

My non verbatim transcript of the only time spaghetti gang had to answer real questions (Doc interview with Vinny/Dan/Zorn):

Q by Doc: Gibbs had a hogs first strategy. Seems like you have abandoned that, in terms of drafting OL and hogs.

A by Dan: I am a homeboy of JGibbs, we talk all the time, so of course I understand his values. The most important thing that I learned from JG was picking and supporting high character guys.

Signing Bridges and all the other crap I've seen over last 3 months would be the equivalent of pissing on JG grave if he were dead. Yes, Dan, we believe you that you really learned that from Gibbs! And I am sure you and he are really good friends as you say! What a joke.

Posted by: zornskins2 | May 6, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

I said this last night zornskins and I'll briefly state it again. Gibbs had some less than stellar characters on some of his squads too.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 6, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse


Thug a minute dregs will not solve the o-line's problems. Neither will DERRICK DOCKERY alone. Now if he brings his baggage(WILLIAMS) with him and its straight, I am willing to roll with that.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 6, 2009 8:20 PM

If you are willing to roll with "baggage" why complain? That only made you contradict your own statement.
Williams is a former first round pick and for whatever reason initiated resurrection of his career, whats wrong with that? How many teams in NFC East have you seen starting a rookie O Lineman?
Williams, if anything else, will provide depth at RT. Remember "the refrigerator Perry"? We could have one in Williams right now. Try not to always see the cup half empty.
Hail!

Posted by: abxinc | May 6, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

sween, I tend to lean towards Heyer as well...but a sentimental sliver of me thinks (hopes) that Jansen is going to make one last run. He claims he's healthy for the first time in a while. I'd love to see Mike Williams step up but am skeptical. What is it with NFLers named Mike Williams that leads to obesity and underachieving?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | May 6, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

IMO heyer is a slightly above average pass blocker and a real find as an undrafted free agent. He struggles in run blocking and the vice versa for Jansen. Jansen has nagging injuries and will be 3rd string RT and if he develops as a center that will be a bonus. The real competition for RT is between Heyer and Bridges. Jansen is on this roster only because of the restructuring of his contract. Edwin is the future of the center position and will probably end up on the practice squad purely because of Jansen's contract.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

I said this last night zornskins and I'll briefly state it again. Gibbs had some less than stellar characters on some of his squads too.

Posted by: scampbell1975

and I'll repeat too. Gibbs could manage a few outliers because he had the respect of the players. Partly because he understands how to inspire people and partly because he has that thing in Canton and 3 Lombardis.

As Dan Quayle is no Jack Kennedy, Jim Zorn is no Joe Gibbs.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 6, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Let me add I was talking about Edwin being the future @ center...

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

zornskins

'...As some of you know I am a Bengals fan...'

Hello, zornskins.

You're among friends.

Welcome to RI Nation's 12 step recovery meeting.

We're glad you've decided to admit you have a problem--that you're a bengals' fan--as admission is the 1st step.

Not too many people outside of the state of Ohio express their love for the bengals. Anthony Mix recently did, and now sits in jail as he didn't know the team was just 15 years old.

Mix is quoted as saying, "I like them young and with tiger stripes."

Attendance at these meetings is free and we advise you not to be tricked into buying a 'ticket' from Cody Glenn.

Should you have any trouble getting your money back from Glenn, though, our new right tackle Jeremy Bridges will use a semi-automatic weapon in a strip club parking lot to re-acquire it.

And according to Bridges, you won't have to worry about his getting caught as, "... whatever the path, you take off and you run."

So feel free to express yourself in the presence of us suffering redskins fans as we now support a team that just can't seem to get it done and now embraces players with checkered pasts, despite St Joe's desire for 'character guys'.

We've replaced Real Redskins with Bad Boys.

That's our admission.

And we hope the one/two time reaching into the NFL trash bin for talent is the the team's last and final step towards respectability.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 6, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 6, 2009 11:12 PM

I know how you feel about your effort but let me pat you on the back anyway...

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

We've replaced Real Redskins with Bad Boys.
On the current roster,what percentage quantify for "Bad Boys"?

Posted by: abxinc | May 6, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

We've replaced Real Redskins with Bad Boys.
On the current roster,what percentage quantify for "Bad Boys"?

Posted by: abxinc | May 6, 2009 11:32 PM

I'll field this one...

53 man roster
haynesworth, bridges, Sellars (trash bag of weed in CLE), EL (theft of a paycheck, glenn (stretch), tnats it thats the list
5/53 = 9%

As far as Real Redskins...let the debate begin but I have very few.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 6, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

I'd have to say our current roster and the roster we'll have on September 13 are two very different things.

And that's not even getting into other definitions, and such as.

P.S.

Lest we forget!
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | May 7, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Both M. Williams and Bridges can also play guard. That was one reason they were signed. Not sure if E. Williams will make the team solely for the center position. They tried that with Geisinger look what it led to. Me thinks its better to have a guy who can play any position along the line. Heyer is a start. Read Birk's profile from scouts. He can play tackle or guard as well as center. That's really what they need at this point. And so Levi Jones looks better from that perspective. Seems likely he will shuffle off to Buffalo with TO though.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

The real issue is that Gibbs restored the Skins to a respected franchise. He did that by improving the character of the team, and it showed in the post ST21 tragedy, when most teams would have fallen apart. By the end of the 2007 season; the Skins were feared as an opponent for the only time I can recall in a very long time.

Respect attracts winners. What the Spaghetti Gang is doing now is reinforcing the idea that you come to DC to get paid.

Its a subtle difference in some respects. You can have guys that are both hungry for a big payday and hungry to win. Over the long run, a bunch of highly paid 'me first' players gets you the mess that jerruh jones has.

Last season, the biggest in-season distraction was Portis going off on Zorn. What happened that weekend? We came out flat and lost to Cincy when a win would have given us a good shot at the playoffs.

Look at Albert. If he wants a Super Bowl, he could have stayed in Tennessee, where the team is clearly very good and on an upswing. I'm sure other teams that are closer to a deep playoff push would have considered Albert. Yet, Albert came, very quickly, to the team that showed him the money.

The Skins may not degrade into the mess that envelopes other teams, but the risk is growing.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 7, 2009 12:12 AM | Report abuse

I dunno periculum, why would he???
Posted by: Vicc | May 6, 2009

I think that was before Portis flaked out a&^Hole. Left the team in the lurch with a THREE POINT TWO YARDS PER CARRY AVG, AND TWO, count them TWO WHOOOPEE TDS. LOOK AT LT A-HOLE, San Diego was close to cutting that dude because he faltered due to age and injury. Here is YOUR HERO PORTIS avoiding practice, mini camps, OTA's like he just won the superbowl, the MVP and went to Disney World. Blames everyone but himself for the 2-6 record for the really poor running game in the 2nd half. I admit that Gibbs eventually let him get away with some of it but not the way he gets away with stuff now. YOUR HERO, what a model for your kids to emulate.

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

The Skins may not degrade into the mess that envelopes other teams, but the risk is growing.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 7, 2009

Add underachievers who cash the check and under perform, like Hall and Portis and you have a recipe for disaster brewing ...

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Clinton Portis is NOW Shaun Alexander

Posted by: periculum | May 7, 2009 12:20 AM | Report abuse

And possibly Marko Mitchell, Kelly Washington, DJ Hackett, Roydell Williams, Trent Shelton, and James Thrash all fighting for the 5th WR spot?

You gotta at least be pleased that the team isn't simply resting on what they already have....

Posted by: psps23 | May 6, 2009 4:05 PM |

I too like the fact that they are not resting on what they have, but your statement about the 5th WR spot is what puzzles me about the Redskins as a whole.

Why would all those guys be competing for just the 5th spot? Moss is the only receiver on the Team that has earned a spot.

So why wouldn't all the receivers besides Moss be competing for spots 2-5. If they already have spots 2-4 penciled in, then spots 2-4 are not going to be competing. Thats bad.

The same crap goes on with the Offensive Line. Samuels and Jansen should have been benched more last season for making mistakes or being nicked up. The lineman playing behind them will not be competitive when they are not getting fair chances to play.

Football is a performance game and when starters know that they will be benched for non-performance, if only for a series or one play, they will play better and so will there backups.

No spots should be a given in football.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | May 7, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

WHY THE HELL ARE WE SIGNING THESE SCRUBS OFF THE STREET. WHY IS SNYDERRATO NOT CONCERNED WITH SIGNING SOME REAL OFFENSIVE LINEMEN INSTEAD OF WORRYING ABOUT MARKETING THE TEAM WITH BIG NAMES???? IDIOT!!!

Posted by: BarackObama | May 7, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Periculum,

I really can't tell if Portis has anything left in the Tank by his performance last year. But, one thing for sure is that we definitely need to be solidfying that running back position.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | May 7, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Portis is many things. One thing he is not and that is a leader. I love CP except for his weak per carry avg and lack of big plays, however I fault him most for not being a leader. Who is the leader on O, CP the guy who hates practice and lets the young guyds get away with the same act? Or is it Moss who pulls the a similar act and disappears for stretches in games. Who is the guy in practice that leads by example and the young guys follow? And yes I'm talking about practice, Please defend Portis and Moss...

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 7, 2009 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Note to periculum CP is not Alexander. SA was soft, CP is and has never been considered soft. I hope you were joking and I'll chalk it up as just that, a bad joke.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 7, 2009 1:36 AM | Report abuse

I was looking for Scouts, Inc. like in the first comment. But I found Scouts.com, somehow related to Fox. They have Dockery as the top FA Guard. Pete Kendall 6th. With Jeremy Bridges 16th. Kendall is an inch taller and lighter but, he is also the oldest FA guard available. Still it sounds about like switching Jansen and Kendall. If he's more mobile and better in the pass, maybe but it sounds off.

I'd be more hopeful about Dockery bumping out. He has more Tackle size. There were a plethora of 6'7" or 8" FA tackles on the list. Levi Jones is only 6'5" but ranked 2nd. Kwame Harris and Tyson Clabo from Atlanta are both taller and younger (15 and 13 resp. both 3 star but so were Bridges and Kendall for guards.)

Just a site and an uninformative one at that. The height always gives me confidence but you expect a lot more from tackles. But mostly it shows me how little you should trust these sights. Suggs and Peppers as the top two and available brings up ideas of what the Skins could have done. Maybe it was the franchise tag but you hope that Snyder learned a lesson. But there is Jason Taylor listed as 4th. As a Skins fan that is an affront to the senses.

I actually suggested drafting Durant Brooks. Before the pick. Yah..... I'll own it. That was me. I saw a stat filled web sight highlighting him as the greatest college punter ever. It was really convincing. Plus I went to Tech. But I actually thought he would eventualy leg out an additional 10 yds. on the rest of the league. Oh well.

Posted by: chavez66 | May 7, 2009 1:50 AM | Report abuse

The Skins seem to have limited their choices to rounding up lots of OL bodies that haven't really achieved much and they are hoping to find a gem in there. Same with WR.

If you're hoping to find a diamond in there, you probably will have to sift thru a lot of dirt. A lot. But at least they are trying.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 7, 2009 1:58 AM | Report abuse

how old is this guy?

Posted by: BMACattack | May 7, 2009 2:04 AM | Report abuse

"Things happen and I can't blame nobody but myself. If I wouldn't even have been in that situation then I wouldn't have been in the situation."

Wow this guy is real bright.

Posted by: FedorEm | May 7, 2009 6:44 AM | Report abuse

Don't know much about Bridges but it concerns me when right off the bat a player feels it necc. to explain that he isn't an animal.

Posted by: Gweez | May 7, 2009 6:55 AM | Report abuse


I said this last night zornskins and I'll briefly state it again. Gibbs had some less than stellar characters on some of his squads too.

Posted by: scampbell1975

and I'll repeat too. Gibbs could manage a few outliers because he had the respect of the players. Partly because he understands how to inspire people and partly because he has that thing in Canton and 3 Lombardis.

As Dan Quayle is no Jack Kennedy, Jim Zorn is no Joe Gibbs.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 6, 2009 11:09 PM

And how would you know. Do you remember Gibbs first year? He wasn't that good. Zorn has been here 1 year.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 7, 2009 7:17 AM | Report abuse

"Obviously if anyone wanted him, there would have been a deal.

Posted by: DikShuttle

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That's funny, because there are multiple reports of other teams that were interested in Campbell.

Didn't you guys see the report?

Posted by: psps23

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Report? Huh? Never heard of this report of which you speak.

Can this report be confirmed?

A first round pick for JC?????

Posted by: Chia_Pet | May 7, 2009 7:19 AM | Report abuse

I'm not against the signings of Bridges and Mike Williams. If what Vinny claims is true, then he was faced with a very thin crop of O-linemen after the first round, and free agency became the only option. I find it harder to believe those two linebackers were highly rated, but then, I get my pre-draft info from the same place most of you guys do, and that's the same bunch of bloviators who mainly talk to one another. The teams are going out of their way to hide anything of real value.

Bridges and Williams seem to have the saem two assets: first, they're currently healthy; and second, they've been starters on decent teams. Williams does have some injuries in his past, and given the three year layoff, he's clearly the bigger risk of the two. Bridges is much more of a known in the football sense. That's good and bad, of course. Some of the stuff we know about him, we wish we didn't.

We still have Stephon Heyer, but the coaches obviously don't see that as a major asset. Stephon is probably better suited to the left side, anyway. We picked up that very good undrafted free agent Ed Williams; he's probably a better NFL prospect than Heyer or Crummey coming out of college (more skilled than Heyer, healthier than Crummey).

The pickup of Roydell Williams is a bit harder to understand -- he's very much in the mold of Moss. Roydell went from being a very effective starting-quality WR to a training camp cut, all in the space of a single ankle injury. He seems as stunned as everybody else. Given that there are no character issues, it's hard to see why the Titans cut the cord so quickly. Jeff Fisher is not stupid; he'll have had a reason, though he probably won't share it with us.

The two mighty mites that Vinny signed to return kicks might be productive. Asking ARE to play regularly and also return kicks is going against the grain a little. I'd expect DeSean Jackson will have some problems if he tries to do that again this year.

All in all, it should be an interesting camp.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 7, 2009 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Mrs. Garrett.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | May 7, 2009 7:20 AM | Report abuse

I mean, who hasn't shook a bottle of Champagne in celebration?

Posted by: DCXNTX | May 7, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

A bottle of champagne in one hand and a revolver in the other hand! As long as he gives us depth!

Posted by: joeboggs | May 7, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Bridges is versatile. He can be Plan B at right guard in case Randy Thomas is not 100% to start the season.

It also opens up another roster spot elsewhere on the team as we don't need to keep another backup interior lineman at RG.

Bridges is 29 and should be in the prime of his career. He has started enough games in the NFL to show he can be a solid peformer.

The question is whether his game translates to RT after having played guard for the majority of his career.

Posted by: leopard09 | May 7, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey Samuel L Jackson thinks the NFL is rife with turmoil and he is really "so darn overdramatic"

So Mr. Bridges, if you mess up with the Skins the lord will visit his mighty vengance on you, with or without the Va. State Police

Posted by: ElYeah | May 7, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Signings of Williams and Bridges shows how desperate the Skins are for a starting RT. They must alreay believe that Heyer isn't the answer and Jansen is better suited for guard or center, if he can play anymore at all. If anyone thinks signing guys who have been out of football for 3 years or have been cut for legal problems is how to build quality depth, you're sadly misled. Vinny wants to deflect attention away from the fact that he wasted our No. 2 on Jason Taylor last year and didn't have enough draft picks to select a lineman. I don't buy that there weren't quality offensive tackles in this draft. Why did 6 get picked in the 1st round and a few more in the 2nd?

Think about it realistically. The Redskins had multiple holes to fill and Orakpo was the highest rated at No. 13. If he wasn't available, the would have picked an OT or LB instead. Don't be that misled to think Vinny actually knows what he is doing. He was willing to mortgage the team's future for Cutler or Sanchez.

Posted by: wizfan89 | May 7, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

One word for Mike Williams: liposuction.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 7, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

One word for Jeremy Bridges: lawyer. As in get one.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 7, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

One word for Jon Jansen: Geritol. As in, drink some.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 7, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

On word for Randy Thomas: chiropractor.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 7, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

One word for Manny: POSITIVE

Posted by: DCXNTX | May 7, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

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