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Rogers, Cartwright on Redskins' Struggles

Carlos Rogers, from the Redskins' open locker room:

"It starts not only with players and coaches, it starts with the ownership. They bring everybody in and they've got last say-so of everything, so that's where it starts, I guess." (via @RickMaese on Twitter).

Rock Cartwright:

"We look better than everybody on paper. But when it's time to do it, apparently we're not doing it. They are. We're not. We're going to get this thing turned around. I promise you that. I promise you we're going to get it turned around." (via @RickMaese)

Huffing and Puffing

Sam Huff continues to question Albert Haynesworth's conditioning, via Steinberg's Sports Bog.

By Cindy Boren  |  October 12, 2009; 11:50 AM ET
 
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Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Wow! Way to go los. Here we go.

Posted by: Salinas1 | October 12, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

So...It's Dan Snyder's fault we drafted Carlos NoHands Rogers?

I agree. Not worth the top 10 pick...

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 12, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth's conditioning??????

Sam, are you serious? C'mon he's never been an every down player and he's 6'6" 325

Conditioning? He's one of the most dominant defensive players in the league. Conditioning?

C'man Sam shut it.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

So...It's Dan Snyder's fault we drafted Carlos NoHands Rogers?

I agree. Not worth the top 10 pick...

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 12, 2009 11:54 AM |


haha...seriously.

Posted by: mhartz1 | October 12, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

5:16:45 pm Redskins WR Santonio Moss on the offense gaining just 198 yards today, "The anger inside, it's so frustrating. I don;t want to say the wrong thing so I'd rather not say anything at all. I don't know. I don't have a clue... To me it's like Groundhog Day, every week it's like the same thing."

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 12, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

So...It's Dan Snyder's fault we drafted Carlos NoHands Rogers?

I agree. Not worth the top 10 pick...

Posted by: 4thFloor |

CB's job is to cover and tackle. There is an old adage, 'if he could catch he would be a WR'. When you get CB's to make interceptions you get DH, and you have seen how he tackles.

c'mon that's football 101

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

who is santonio moss?

if it was the same thing every week santana would have 50 catches and 5 TD's

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

With that comment Rogers is FINISHED in D.C.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 12, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Finally one of the players say something about the horrible ownership! It's a good thing he dosent want to be a skin cuz he's gone no matter what now.

Posted by: murphyz | October 12, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

it's been obvious to all of us for the past 3 years that we need O-line and that is still the case

why do so many blame, QB, RB, WR, CB, defense, etc.

it's the O-line remember, duh, focus people focus

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

c'mon that's football 101

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 11:57 AM

NFL 101

Don't openly criticize the one paying you. There are only 32 organizations in the league and burning bridges are never a good thing.

And DHall got you 7 points yesterday. CR22? None? So what were you saying again?

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 12, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

There are anywhere from 6 to 10 solid QB prospects in this draft.....there are 2 elite tackles.....hopefully but certainly unlikely that if Cerrato is still making decisions we'll go Tackle round one qb round 2.

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 12, 2009 11:47 AM |

I hear the dropoff is pretty severe after you get past Bradford. You build your team around the QB, not the OT. The Giants and Falcons drafted an elite QB and then built their OL. The Browns and Phins drafted an elite OT and have mediocre QBs and are struggling. Even with the nosedive the Skins are in there is no guarantee they would get Bradford because they would be competing with Oak and the Rams, both of whom are in bad need of a QB.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | October 12, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Rogers is %100 correct and now gone. And he is a very good CB who would be great if he could even kinda, sorta, maybe catch.

Oh and its getting really hard to resist....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 12, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Vinny, draft 6 O lineman next year and pick up at least 1 starting caliber FA O lineman, everyone else is good

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

With that comment Rogers is FINISHED in D.C.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 12, 2009 12:00 PM

If that's the case trade him now before he damages his value anymore with dropped pick-6 interceptions.

Posted by: TWISI | October 12, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth v. Peppers

pick'em

I'm taking Peppers every day.

Peppers is a killa: that dude is what a '...big splashy move...' is supposed to look like.

Dude got tired and didn't look it.

He shook past Heyer with a low post NBA style fake and dunked Campbell from the free throw line.

Peppers gets moved from right end to left end to tackle to dropped back in coverage to chilling on the sidelines like it was nothing.

The panthers could trade him, ask for a 1st rounder, and folks would line up around the corner.

And as for Prince Al?: well, maybe he won't get tired counting all that redskin money.

'Cuz he sure does get tired earning it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 12, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

This nugget everyone was looking for from Elfin:

*On Wednesday, unbeknownst to media members, who aren't allowed to watch team drills during the regular season, Mike Williams - who had never played guard and who hadn't played at all since 2005 - became Washington's third starter at right guard in four weeks.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/12/redskins-insider-a-fitting-finish-to-a-weird-week/

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 12, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

pabrian2003 - Exhibit A to your statement - Belechik put in Randy Moss at the end of the 1st half knowing that Denver was going to throw a hail mary - and sure enought Orton did, and Moss got the INT (which was, his first "reception" of the game).

Posted by: suzannepdc | October 12, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

LA LA LA LAme Pabrian!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 12, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I am not sure bashing redskins management equals burning bridges at this point, Rogers will land somewhere with a decent deal.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 12, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Clearly Carlos Rogers has an agenda against the Redskins and the front office. He should work for the media. The audacity to question this magnificent owner...Sheesh!

Posted by: 4-12 | October 12, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Zorn's worst play call of the year was last week when he had Sellars and Mason in the backfield, playaction

neither of those guys came close to slowing anyone down, I would definitely release Mason and Alrige and sign Kendall, Fabini, or someone like that

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

And a Rock Cartwright promise means what exactly?

Posted by: RedDMV | October 12, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Rogers is %100 correct and now gone. And he is a very good CB who would be great if he could even kinda, sorta, maybe catch.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 12, 2009 12:03 PM |

That is why he is a CB. If the dude could catch he would be a standout WR.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | October 12, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

LA LA LA LAme Pabrian!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 12, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Joey T. said this morning that Rinehart was injured yesterday (at least dinged) and that is why Mike Williams played.

Has anyone heard this elsewhere?

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 12, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

4-12, the man with the prophetic handle...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 12, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Continued from Elfin and I was thinking this before I read it:

"Samuels was replaced by D'Anthony Batiste, who hadn't played since December 2007 and had never played tackle. But that's where he played because Rinehart was inactive. Defensive tackle Cornelius Griffin suited up even though he knew his sprained left elbow would keep him from playing.

If Rinehart, whose apparent sprained shoulder was never listed on the injury report during the week, had suited up, he could have gone to guard. Williams would have played his familiar right tackle, moving Stephon Heyer to the left side, where he had filled in for Samuels in the past. The makeshift line allowed five sacks and helped produced just 3.1 yards a carry against a defense that was last in the NFL against the run.
"

=============================================

So, if this is true, it's completly the coaches fault. If Griffen wasn't going to play anyway, and MW was starting at RG. Why wouldn't the skins think about what if someone on the line goes down?

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 12, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth's conditioning??????

Sam, are you serious? C'mon he's never been an every down player and he's 6'6" 325

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 11:55 AM |

It's more like 350 and rising. The only reason that Popeyes is still solvent is because he stepped up to the plate when BMW became a veggan.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | October 12, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone heard this elsewhere?

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 12, 2009 12:09 PM

---------

Jim Zen said it, but he's a liar.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 12, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth's conditioning??????

Posted by: lamepabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 11:55 AM

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Yes, he has none.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 12, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Joey T. said this morning that Rinehart was injured yesterday (at least dinged) and that is why Mike Williams played.

Has anyone heard this elsewhere?

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 12, 2009 12:09 PM |

Dude's pride was injured. But that usually is not the type of injury that prevents you from playing.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | October 12, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

LA LA LA LAme Pabrian!

Posted by: Chia_Pet

fascinating insight indicitive of your football IQ

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Lisa - Did Larry Michael read your letter on Redskins Nation with Vinny last Thursday? It sure sounded like it was written by you....

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 12, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

LA LA LA LAme Pabrian!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 12, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth's conditioning??????

Posted by: lamepabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 11:55 AM

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Yes, he has none.

Posted by: Chia_Pet

The Scouting report has been available for 6 or 7 years now, are you just learning this,

football IQ again?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Daniel Snyder is willing to pay more for whoever we want or need to play or coach, this is a good thing. But because there is no strong leadership in management that can tell him sometimes tell him "no", it appears that we are headed back down the Steve Spurrier route. The Skins desperatly need a strong "football guy" GM to replace Vinny.

Snyder really needs to consider hiring a tough guy like Bill Cowher to come in here and whip the skins into shape, and most likely someone of his stature will not return without a big paycheck, no problem there, and full control over the roster, well then Snyder needs to show he has learned from past mistakes like with Schottenheimer and yield and let someone come in here who knows what they are doing to run the show. And then Snyder can do what he does best, sign big pay checks to whomever the new GM decides the Skins need to pay.

Posted by: Redskins_in_2010 | October 12, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

"I blame the media."

-by Pabrian2003

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 12, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

LA LA LA LAme Pabrian!

Posted by: Chia_Pet

LA LA LA LAme Pabrian!

Posted by: Chia_Pet

fascinating insight indicitive of your football IQ

Posted by: pabrian2003

your insight has no limitations, learn the game

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 12, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

4th, I am in complete agreement about the bungling of active/inactive and the right switch to oline once samuels went down. Also why was will montgomery not thrown in at Guard to slide Heyer/BMW to the tackles?

I am a lot more confident in Will Monty than Batise...

So odd and lame..

Posted by: chrislarry | October 12, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

it starts with the ownership

That's okay Carlos, we have a spare room you can live in until you get a new job.

We do have some yard work you can do until then.

Posted by: SteveMG | October 12, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone heard this elsewhere?

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 12, 2009 12:09 PM |

Doc Walker said the same as well on Monday morning QB.

Posted by: TWISI | October 12, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

That is why he is a CB. If the dude could catch he would be a standout WR.


Posted by: FartezDudmore


Wow, just ufb... are you actually trying to excuse Rogers dropping gift wrapped INTs?

Of course it isn't expected for him to have hands like freakin' Larry Fitzgerald, but Rogers drops way more picks than he should.

He's dropped a lot of potential pick sixes also.

"I Want This Forever" - Drake ft. Kanye West & Lil Wayne

Posted by: RedDMV | October 12, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

...Why wouldn't the skins think about what if someone on the line goes down?

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 12, 2009 12:10 PM

Exactly 4th. Because of the organizational philosophy of "WR-TE-WR," they were stuck with some guy named D'Anthony Batiste as LT, and Mike Williams as RG. Not to mention a starting RT who stinks.
But who needs a solid OLine, right?

Posted by: 4-12 | October 12, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

"That is why he is a CB. If the dude could catch he would be a standout WR.


Posted by: FartezDudmore"

Yeah thanks for representing the simpleton's view....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 12, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Common sense says that both Haynesworth and the Washington Redskins would benefit from of an increase in cardiovascular conditioning and improved level of aerobic fitness on the part of the big fella.

It certainly couldn't hurt!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 12, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: TWISI | October 12, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

With that comment Rogers is FINISHED in D.C.


Posted by: RedDMV | October 12, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse


And I'm sure Carlos is in no way depressed about that.

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 12, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

with Eminem

Posted by: RedDMV | October 12, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Lisa - Did Larry Michael read your letter on Redskins Nation with Vinny last Thursday? It sure sounded like it was written by you....

Posted by: 4thFloor |

4th, yes that was my letter - and Larry even said it was an excellent email. Strange since I kinda bashed the FO.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 12, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

...Why wouldn't the skins think about what if someone on the line goes down?

Because they have almost no options.

We all know that O-lines on teams nowadays get banged up. That's where those 3rd and 4th and 5th round picks come in handy. Use them to pick up prospects that, while they aren't topflight lineman, are capable of playing in a backup/spot role capacity.

The Skins haven't had those 3-4-5 round picks consistently over the years. So they have to rely on rejects that no one wants.

Posted by: SteveMG | October 12, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

has anyone actual seen los in a game. he might as well be invisible opposing qb's just can't seem to find the guy. as bad as he is at his job you would think they would be picking on him all game long but it's as if los and who ever he might be covering just vanish. why would you as a quarterback in the nfl target a corner with such god awful hands? especially when the other option is throwing at deangelo "sticky hands" hall?

Posted by: cornix | October 12, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Rock Cartwright said "We look better than everybody on paper" but that's untrue. The Skin's talent level is very greatly exaggerated.

Posted by: AncientTerp | October 12, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

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