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Haynesworth, Portis, Moss to Miss Scrimmage

Pro Bowl defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, running back Clinton Portis and wide receiver Santana Moss are among many veterans not expected to participate in Saturday's intrasquad scrimmage at Redskins Park.

The Redskins plan to hold out at least nine players in an effort to avoid injury during the scrimmage scheduled to begin at 2 p.m. Parking is available beginning at 11:30 a.m. for the annual fan day and the gates open at noon. Coach Jim Zorn is scheduled to address the crowd at 1:10 p.m.

Washington opens its preseason schedule Aug. 13 against the Baltimore Ravens at M&T Bank Stadium, and Zorn said he must look ahead. "We're hoping to be smart with this," Zorn said. "This is not to just kind of rough it up. It's to get a good feel for our younger guys [and] a good fit on the stuff that we're trying to do. Also, we want to have something to go to Baltimore with to play."

Record crowds descended upon Redskins Park for last season's scrimmage, jamming roads for miles in every direction and causing massive delays. The team announced 28,000 people attended the event, topping 2004's crowds when Joe Gibbs came back from retirement, and the lines began forming early in the morning.

Cars lined up all along Loudoun County Parkway, with backups topping 90 minutes just to move a few miles to the practice complex. Some people were driving across the grassy median area to turn back in the opposite direction, and by the time the scrimmage began at 2 p.m., spectators were parking their cars on any grassy space available off to the side of the road.

"The big problem is there's one way in and one way out," Zorn said. "Everybody has to be patient."

In the 2008 scrimmage, Zorn planned for the first- and second-team offenses to each get 25-30 plays. "I said 25 or 30 plays and we ended up with 68," he said. "I am going to try and run 40 plays on offense. ... If you're playing a whole series, you should get 15 to 20 reps."

Quarterback Jason Campbell is scheduled to play. With right guard Randy Thomas (knee) having missed time in camp, second-year guard-tackle Chad Rinehart has taken the practice reps with the first-team. Right tackle Stephon Heyer (knee) has been replaced by guard-tackle Jeremy Bridges with the first-team.

Rinehart and Bridges are expected to start on the right side during the scrimmage, although Heyer could be a "scrimmage-time decision," Zorn said.

Rinehart, the team's 2008 third-round draft pick, was inactive for the first 13 games and did not play last season. He lost his confidence after struggling in the preseason. Some in the organization have downplayed Rinehart's shaky performance last preseason, saying most of his problems occurred when he worked as a tackle and experienced problems with edge rushers. He has been a full-time right guard in camp.

"I've seen a guy that came very prepared to this training camp," Zorn said. "He's much more confident in what he's doing on the line of scrimmage. He knows his assignment. He's in great shape. He's kind of changed his body strength, if you will. He's competing very hard for a starting position."

By Jason Reid  |  August 7, 2009; 5:30 PM ET
 
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2nd

Posted by: thinker11 | August 7, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

8rd

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 7, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

No touching of the hair or face. Of course, of course.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

samuels-dockery-rabach-reinhart-bridges

how do you lke them apples?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

soooo glad we're not playing 26, 89, and 92 we know how they play

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

hamstring-hammy-hamstrings-back o the leg-quadriceps

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

mmmm mmm mmmm

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

down to williams belly

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

rodgers has a calf injury, but I think it's a hammy and they're trying to trick us

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

A pulled hammy would tend to strain the calf, yes?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Did I read that right? Did the Z-Man say that Reinhart is fighting for a starting position? Does that insinuate that there is a starting position to be had?

Posted by: Wemiss21 | August 7, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Did I read that right? Did the Z-Man say that Reinhart is fighting for a starting position? Does that insinuate that there is a starting position to be had?

Posted by: Wemiss21

Hard to tell, Z and Buges will continue lauding the entire O-line until we're all sh!tting rainbows.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

isn't every player fighting for a starting position? there are exceptions like Collins, but I'm guessing they all want to start

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

All this O-line hand-wringing for nothing. Once the season gets under way and Campbell's running for his life (again), we can always just sign Shawn Alexander or T.J. Duckett to help out. Sure, they may not be much help on the O-line, but think of all the jerseys they'll sell!

Signed, Snyderatto-Sh*t-Fer-Brains

In all seriousness, I'm the last one to jump to conspiracy theories, but from the draft to every passing day that Snyderatto largely ignores the O-line, the theory that the two-headed beast is setting Soup/Zorn up for failure so as to justify jettisoning both in '10 in favor of bigger-name, flashier replacements gains credence in my book.

Posted by: hogmeister | August 7, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

NEW NFL RULES FOR 2009: ADDENDUM

As a cost savings for owners, no more undies for the Cheerleaders.

Concession Stand Cap Rule: Family of Four must be able to have lunch and get Dad properly buzzed without risking foreclosure on new stimulus home loan.

All commercials on Jumbotron must involve that adorable talking baby. If the freakin’ Geico Lizard is shown, home team loses #1 pick next year.

Honorary Celebrity Wedgebuster will be flattened as part of pregame ceremonies. Nominees must be more famous than “Dancing with the Stars” celebs, however each team must use Geraldo Rivera at least once.

While making a tackle, opposing player may no longer grab opponent by the rectum.

15-yard penalty for calling referee “Stupid Head.” However “MISTER Stupid Head” still permitted.

The Joe Montana Memorial Crepitation Clause now bans rookies from farting in the huddle, except during pre-season contests or during timeouts.

To counter unfairness of “Hard Count,” QB must now come to full Glottal Stop before ball is snapped. A voiced pharyngeal fricative may NOT be substituted.

Newspaper, TV and Blog critics who whine about new rules that reduce violence must play one series of downs or until rendered unconscious (whichever comes first) in preseason contest.

Posted by: TheCork | August 7, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

To counter unfairness of “Hard Count,” QB must now come to full Glottal Stop before ball is snapped. A voiced pharyngeal fricative may NOT be substituted.


I have no idea what this means, but I like it! :)

Posted by: noone_from_tampa | August 7, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Really? A bunch of guards who started the last 32 games in a row are going to be available when teams start cutting players.

Just a bunch of guards waiting to be cut that have started all but 3 games in the last 5 years. Guys that allowed fewer sacks than either Steve Huchison or Alan Faneca, both Pro Bowlers at the same position last season.

I didn't realize there would be an oversupply of these types of guys.

My bad.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 7, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

zeke,

There are 32 NFL camps, and Kendall wasn't invited to one of them. Why do you think that is?

I think it's because 32 teams think that there are better prospects -- that Kendall, who's so banged up that can't practice with the team on Wednesdays -- doesn't have another year left in him. So, I think that if the 'Skins need another guard they have better prospects from the men that these 32 teams let go than they do with Kendall.

How did your gf's photo exhibit go last night? The woman knows what to do with her camera, and you sure know how to hand it to her.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 7, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

From RI: "Guard-tackle Chad Rinehart, the team's third-round draft pick in 2008, ..."

Posted by: drewkinnear: "If Randy Thomas is indeed done, cut him, go with rhinehart"

Posted by: pabrian2003: "samuels-dockery-rabach-reinhart-bridges"

Rinehart, Rhinehart, Reinhart. JHC, WTF is it?

Posted by: MrRed | August 7, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Clinton Portis gets paid much more than London Fletcher, yet Portis takes more time off than George W. Bush. On the other hand, Fletcher - an ELEVEN-year vet - has been in every drill this preseason. Losing Fletcher on defense would hurt the 'Skins more than losing Portis on offense. Anyone care to comment?

Posted by: MrMerkin | August 7, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Rinehart, Rhinehart, Reinhart. JHC, WTF is it?

Posted by: MrRed
__________________________

Heart of Rhino

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 7, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Are they televising the scrimmage? if so what channel?

Posted by: anonymous35 | August 7, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Are they televising the scrimmage? if so what channel?

Posted by: anonymous35 | August 7, 2009 8:35 PM

Do you really want to watch it on TV when the Post will have five guys out there tweeting it? Seeing it just seems so 20th Century when you can read tweets like "Wow! Brennan put that pass where he had to!"

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 7, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SeanTizzy2DaHizzy | August 7, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

it's reieneheardt.

after teams make final cuts we should secure some extra hamstrings, just in case

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Rinehart, Rhinehart, Reinhart. JHC, WTF is it?

Posted by: MrRed | August 7, 2009 8:16 PM

It's B-R-A-V-E-H-E-A-R-T.

Posted by: Alan4 | August 7, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Are they televising the scrimmage? if so what channel?

Posted by: anonymous35 | August 7, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

LOL. R U 4 real ?

Posted by: whitepeopleareafraidtotalkaboutracialissues | August 7, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

The Skins would most likely be in trouble like bankrupt Six Flags but they have a guaranteed cash flow from the glory days of the 80s and 90s. Without those 3 Super Bowls, Mr. Snyder would be crying for financial assistance to the NFL. Fans keep buying tickets and merchandise living off the past of Gibbs and the Hogs...

However, I would save your money this year... Its a set up to fail for Zorn and JC so they can be jettisoned... 240+ Million (FA and Draft) into an already 4th ranked Defense and nearly zero into an Offense (Dockery was waived) that scored less points than the 0-16 Lions. JC will be running for his life trying to find 2 seconds to throw behind a Div 2 College O-Line of NFL cast offs.

The discrepancy is obvious to everyone (Defense investment versus zero Offense investment) but the journalists will not point it out since Snyder has gained control over most local media outlets (criticize Dan, where do you send your resume if you lose your job?).
Thus its no coincidence that the only print journalists who are critical of the Skin's Front Office, are the ones with other successful publishing income, ie. Jenkins, Feinstein.

And so it goes.. Another Redskins fan, here, following the Ravens until Snyder sells the team or swallows his pride and hires a bonafide experienced GM.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | August 7, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

don't the steelers have a dominant D and a mediocre O with a poor O-line? I think the formula is to have a dominant D and a few playmakers on O.

we all know the cliche-D wins championships, so I have to disagree with the notion that this is a throw away year.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

And so it goes.. Another Redskins fan, here, following the Ravens until Snyder sells the team or swallows his pride and hires a bonafide experienced GM.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM

that's an interesting team to follow considering that they are a dominant D with a mediocre O, there is that formula again. you should come back to the light and root for your team to win. F the owner

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

It's too bad because there are a lot of great redskins players, but when your front office refuses to address the offensive line consistently through multiple drafts, you're never going to be able to compete. I feel really bad for Jason Campbell, I really think he could have been great.

Posted by: YourPsychologist | August 7, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

i think Campbell will be great and next year we will draft 2-3 O-line. Now I have to go fly on my unicorn to atlantis for a date I have with a mermaid.

seriously thought campbell = great, 2010 draft = 3 O lineman

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

i think Campbell will be great and next year we will draft 2-3 O-line. Now I have to go fly on my unicorn to atlantis for a date I have with a mermaid.

seriously thought campbell = great, 2010 draft = 3 O lineman

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 10:04 PM
==============================

Awesome comment, as usual.

P.S. If your mermaid has a sister, remember I've always been your pal, O.K.?
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | August 7, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Despite the "formula" of a mediocre offense and a dominant D, having a crappy to below average O-line simply isn't cost effective.

Why spend scores of millions of $$$ on a QB, star RB, and 2nd round WRs when you can spend a fraction of that on a dominant O-line and raise the performance of less talented players at all the skill positions?

Better to invest some draft picks on OL.

Posted by: Alan4 | August 7, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

alan 4 - i hear what your sayin, but it worked for the steelers...no?

when you have an anchor like Samuels you ride him until the wheels fall off. he made the pro bowl and we had the 4th best rushing attack in the NFL.

based on the last 2 off seasons I'm thinking we bring in multiple OL's next year. we need a big WR we drafted 2 + a TE, then we needed a pass rush we got Hayney, Orakpo, and Jarmon. now we need OL

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

I really wanted to draft andre smith and have samuels mentor him, but they STILL won't let me make ANY decisions.

let's look forward to a dominant D and a short field for the O

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

I really wanted to draft andre smith and have samuels mentor him, but they STILL won't let me make ANY decisions.

let's look forward to a dominant D and a short field for the O

Posted by: pabrian2003

Mmmph! Pouty, aren't we? My sweet 16 hundred pounds of linemen?

Orakpo hasn't played a down yet, but there seems to be hope. Hope he doesn't pull a hamstring.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Rate the possibility of a Goodell intervention:

1. Antonio Pierce - weapons charge coverup
2. Juqua Parker - possession
3. Skins - tampering with AH
4. AH - reckless driving
5. CP - littering with a gum wrapper

Posted by: MrRed | August 7, 2009 10:51 PM | Report abuse

blog is slow, research says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELyTBXzfQJ8

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

except for you, 4th...

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

"it's ok, 4th. I'm sure it will be great."

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Do you really think any of the Redskins current O-Line would even make the Steeler's second string?
"4th best rushing", if true, was because of CP.

The Redskins O-Line of waivers and cast-offs is not NFL caliber. Wait for Shanahan (next year's new WCO HC) to develop an all pro O-Line like he did in Denver for the last decade.
"4th best rushing" and we went from playoffs in 2007 to last place in 2008 standings. If no playoffs this year.. Zorny is back in Seattle as an Off Assistant.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

alan 4 - i hear what your sayin, but it worked for the steelers...no?

when you have an anchor like Samuels you ride him until the wheels fall off. he made the pro bowl and we had the 4th best rushing attack in the NFL.

based on the last 2 off seasons I'm thinking we bring in multiple OL's next year. we need a big WR we drafted 2 + a TE, then we needed a pass rush we got Hayney, Orakpo, and Jarmon. now we need OL

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 10:28 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | August 7, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Do you really think any of the Redskins current O-Line would even make the Steeler's second string?
"4th best rushing", if true, was because of CP.

The Redskins O-Line of waivers and cast-offs is not NFL caliber. Wait for Shanahan (possibly next year's new WCO HC) to develop an all pro O-Line like he did in Denver for the last decade.
"4th best rushing" and we went from playoffs in 2007 to last place in 2008 standings. If no playoffs this year.. Zorny is back in Seattle as an Off Assistant.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

alan 4 - i hear what your sayin, but it worked for the steelers...no?

when you have an anchor like Samuels you ride him until the wheels fall off. he made the pro bowl and we had the 4th best rushing attack in the NFL.

based on the last 2 off seasons I'm thinking we bring in multiple OL's next year. we need a big WR we drafted 2 + a TE, then we needed a pass rush we got Hayney, Orakpo, and Jarmon. now we need OL

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 7, 2009 10:28 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | August 7, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

apologies for the double post..
DSL sux...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | August 7, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm bewildered by some of the recent draft picks,ignoring the O-line like everyone.But it will be comforting whenever this "d" takes the field.

Posted by: mark65 | August 7, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

BEREA, Ohio (AP) -- Cleveland Browns guard Rex Hadnot was carted off the practice field Thursday after suffering a possible serious injury to his left knee.

"serious" seems like such an unnecessary adjective. Does this mean that there are funny injuries out there?

Posted by: hockeyweasel | August 7, 2009 8:19 PM

I got a chuckle about Kellen Winslow Jr's big nut ... though he himself probably thought it was pretty serious. You're right that there aren't really many hilarious injuries. [Even though America's Funniest Home Videos is just a step above Jacka$$ the movie for funny injuries that probably sent some moron to the emergency room.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 7, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

when you have an anchor like Samuels you ride him until the wheels fall off.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM

ESPN reference for a running back, much like the "blunt instrument". Not something you want associated with you starting L tackle.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

you= your

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

So,if it's Samuels,Dockery,Rabach,Rhinehardt,Bridges.Who are the backups?I thought Rhinehardt and Bridges were>

Posted by: mark65 | August 8, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

McMurkin,If you want to draw conclusions regarding contracts look at Portis earning I believe 20 times what Sellers makes.Am I wrong?

Posted by: mark65 | August 8, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

skinns need a gm, [my responses]

"4th best rushing", if true, was because of CP.

[It is true and it was Mostly because of Portis who is, statistically, one of the best RB's in history]

The Redskins O-Line of waivers and cast-offs is not NFL caliber.

[amazing, to have the 4th best rushing attack with a line that isn't NFL caliber. Samuels (4 pro bowls?) and Jansen were both draft picks that played for over a decade. Dockery, too.]

Wait for Shanahan (possibly next year's new WCO HC) to develop an all pro O-Line like he did in Denver for the last decade.

[it's possible , anything is with Danny steering the ship, but I'll live in the now]

"4th best rushing" and we went from playoffs in 2007 to last place in 2008 standings. If no playoffs this year.. Zorny is back in Seattle as an Off Assistant.

[we also went from 2nd place to 4th place and from 10-6 to 8-8, from the playoffs to last place makes it sound like we fell off a cliff. we also lost the BEST player on the team in 2007]

if you want me to root against the Skins it ain't gonna happen, but it's a good dialouge.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 8, 2009 12:56 AM | Report abuse

So,if it's Samuels,Dockery,Rabach,Rhinehardt,Bridges.Who are the backups?I thought Rhinehardt and Bridges were>

Posted by: mark65 | August 8, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

[if that ends up being the starting line, which it most likely won't, then Heyer, Thomas, Williams (the Terp), Thomas, M.Williams, plus Riley, Montgomery, Burley]

McMurkin,If you want to draw conclusions regarding contracts look at Portis earning I believe 20 times what Sellers makes.Am I wrong?

Posted by: mark65 | August 8, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

[Portis is 20 times more important than Sellars. Sellars is trying to get his payday like he should, but there is no comparison to Portis, IMO]

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 8, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

except for you, 4th...

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

"it's ok, 4th. I'm sure it will be great."

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 11:29 PM


Whaaaa?

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 8, 2009 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Things to Look for during today's scrimmage (and for the preseason in general):

a. Campbell's touch--does he hit his receivers in stride so they can maximize yards after catch?

b. The chemistry between Rhino/Bridges--do they pass block well and get a 'push'?

c. Brian Orakpo's pass rushing skills.

d. Malcolm Kelly-Devin Thomas: can they play well enough to remove doubt from the minds of fans who prefer DJ Hackett-Marko Mitchell playing behind Moss-Cooley

e. Is Aldridge the speed-guy answer?

f. Rayner v. Suisham: when you end with kickers, you know it's time to stop.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 8, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Rate the possibility of a Goodell intervention:

1. Antonio Pierce - weapons charge coverup
2. Juqua Parker - possession
3. Skins - tampering with AH
4. AH - reckless driving
5. CP - littering with a gum wrapper

Posted by: MrRed

-------------------------------------

Actually, Roger "Good-Cop" Goodell is about to sit down with Jesse "Poverty Pimp" Jackson and discuss whether or not if NFL teams are operating in collusion to block Mr Vick's re-admission into the NFL.

Think of it: the self-appointed President of Black America--Jackson-- takes time away from confronting the issues teeming in the nation's ghettos to ask why Mr. Vick is not playing football, of all things.

I mean, god knows we need more black boys encouraged to play football in a country with empty librarys and full jails.

Like all other folks asking why Vick is not on a NFL roster, Jackson doesn't understand that football coaches are paranoid control freaks who don't like media disruptions.

Plus: Vick's is an overtated and undefined talent. What position would he play? How is he any different than Tavaris Jackson, Seneca Wallace, or Pat White, for that matter?

Vick can and should go to Canada to play football to show the measure of his skills. He can get on an NFL roster with that game tape, join next off-season's OTAs, and smoothly transition back into the league.

And, btw, we go with #5, Mr Red.

I hate litter.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 8, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

If no playoffs this year.. Zorny is back in Seattle as an Off Assistant.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | August 7, 2009 11:32 PM |

Which could work out well for the dude. Mora won't last long and Z will be well-placed to takeover as HC. His Skins years will have given him HC experience w/o the normal stigma that goes with being fired because everyone knows Snyder is meshuga. And Z ends up with the yob he really wanted all along anyway. Northwest rulz, hot steamy DC drulz.

Posted by: MrRed | August 8, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse

not my posting, Romo.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


when you have an anchor like Samuels you ride him until the wheels fall off.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM

ESPN reference for a running back, much like the "blunt instrument". Not something you want associated with you starting L tackle.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 7, 2009 11:53 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | August 8, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

The homer jury indicted Plex on all three weapons charges and chose not to indict AP for obstruction of justice (cover up). Guess which one is still a Giant and which one isn't. I think that the Commish should suspend AP for two games and take away the Giants' 1st round 2010 draft pick. The Giants were complicit in the cover up. They never alerted the police about what happened and stonewalled them.

Posted by: MrRed | August 8, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: mafreeman | August 8, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Hard to defend an Offense that scored less points than the 0-16 Lions and was ranked in the bottom 3rd of the league.

I dont root against the Redskins.. I root against the FO that cares more about merchandise and concession sales than hiring competent management. I have been a Skins fan for many years and more involved than most... But right now, its just rooting for burgundy and gold laundry.

If the FO focused as much on building a well managed football operation as they do on buying and thus controlling the media and eliminating critics, we'd have a decent team who is not in last place.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
if you want me to root against the Skins it ain't gonna happen, but it's a good dialouge.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 8, 2009 12:56 AM

skinns need a gm, [my responses]

"4th best rushing", if true, was because of CP.

[It is true and it was Mostly because of Portis who is, statistically, one of the best RB's in history]

The Redskins O-Line of waivers and cast-offs is not NFL caliber.

[amazing, to have the 4th best rushing attack with a line that isn't NFL caliber. Samuels (4 pro bowls?) and Jansen were both draft picks that played for over a decade. Dockery, too.]

Wait for Shanahan (possibly next year's new WCO HC) to develop an all pro O-Line like he did in Denver for the last decade.

[it's possible , anything is with Danny steering the ship, but I'll live in the now]

"4th best rushing" and we went from playoffs in 2007 to last place in 2008 standings. If no playoffs this year.. Zorny is back in Seattle as an Off Assistant.

[we also went from 2nd place to 4th place and from 10-6 to 8-8, from the playoffs to last place makes it sound like we fell off a cliff. we also lost the BEST player on the team in 2007]

if you want me to root against the Skins it ain't gonna happen, but it's a good dialouge.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 8, 2009 12:56 AM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | August 8, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

"Do you really think any of the Redskins current O-Line would even make the Steeler's second string? "4th best rushing", if true, was because of CP."

Don't know who originally posted the above, but it's probably not true. No matter how good a back Portis is (very), the lack of runs over ten yards suggests he's following his blockers rather than breaking on his own. That's as compared to somebody like Adrian Peterson, who gets a healthy chunk of his yardage after his blockers are far behind him.

Portis reminds me a little of Terry Allen, who had a brief tenure with the Skins but was most effective in Minnesota.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 8, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

BTW, the whole idea that the Skins offensive linemen wouldn't make second string on the Steelers is ridiculous.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 8, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

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