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GameDay Starts Early This Week

You can prep for the big Redskins-Ravens tilt by checking out this week's episode of "The Jasons," better known as the show about something, on Comcast SportsNet. Also, Jason "Jasno" La Canfora examined the different offensive philosophies of first-year head coches Jim Zorn and John Harbaugh.

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If you're going to M&T Bank Stadium, well, you may freeze your giblets and your niblets off. But, hey, it's fubball. To stay warm, think back to the June 6 Redskins Insider shabingus at the Nats game.

As usual, we'll be in the comfy confines of the office with the craptastic Toshiba cranked up in time for the 1 p.m. games, so join us here and prepare to seriously BTYGO (blog and twitter your guts out). There's also the Redskins Insider Twitter feed (would it kill you to follow us?) and, of course, the mobile text alerts (text REDSKINS to WPOST [97678]).

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We welcome your guest blogs; Jasno likes to turn this space over to fans and Gary Bruce, a Redskins fan who lives in Baltimore and met Jasno on Thursday night at the Jerry Coleman confab, takes the stage today:

Greetings, fellow Redskin fans:

I want to share my experience with you from [Thursday] night at Ryleigh's Oyster Bar in downtown Baltimore. For the record, I'm born and raised in Baltimore and a diehard Redskin fan.

So I walk in -- pretty cool atmosphere -- [and] I scan the bar to [see] what obviously is a few Ravens jerseys. I hear a guy from the radio station 1370 AM say on the mic, "It's Santana Moss!" (That's me, by the way ... the jersey I was wearing.) Then [he] says, "Come on up, Santana." So I go on stage and I seem to notice I was probably the only Redskin fan in the whole place, but I had to represent my team. (Go
Skins.)

So, he then asked if I wanted to enter the raffle give-a-way and participate in the trivia game [and] I said yes. I stepped down off the stage and ordered a beer, listened to JLa and the other guys on stage talk football.

...Two guys with Raven jerseys on ... came up to me, looked me up and down and started a conversation. Pretty cool guys, for the most part. It was a good experience; I just wish a little more Baltimore area Skins fans would have shown up. (I know you're out there.) I did win a raffle prize.

Gary Bruce

By Cindy Boren  |  December 6, 2008; 4:50 PM ET
 
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I hope zorny is watching this game and taking notes. Never seen tebow play before. Very impressive even the passes

Posted by: dealer1 | December 6, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Scared play by urban meyers there by not calling time out with a minute left

Posted by: dealer1 | December 6, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Gotta go get ready for the second half of Fla-Bama and the big Big 12 game. See you all up here around noon tomorrow.

Posted by: CindyBoren | December 6, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

beep beep. move along. nothing more to see here.

Posted by: CindyBoren | December 6, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a cover up to me, Cindy.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 6, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Hello ms. Boren! Hope alls well! Good day to be at work.

Posted by: dealer1 | December 6, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

"And theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnn?"

Posted by: jmicrodoc | December 6, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

... The Jasons," better known as the show about something, ...

Cindy, I love the juxtaposition of this statement and the guest blog! Also, great glogging Gary Bruce!

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't NCAA use nfl football?

Posted by: dealer1 | December 6, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

and then? and then jmicrodoc repeats that incomprehensible line about the sourcemeter and this blog. what do i win for guessing correctly?

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm afraid bama gonna win this one

Posted by: dealer1 | December 6, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

dealer, I don't understand the question. what do you mean by "use"?

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Skins need julio jones.

Sween, talking about the actual football

Posted by: dealer1 | December 6, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Urban meyer lost this game 1 minute to go in the half

Posted by: dealer1 | December 6, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

maybe if it says nfl on it then the ncaa doesn't get the merchandising revenue?

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Sween, there's a difference between the size of the NFL and NCAA ball

Posted by: dealer1 | December 6, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

"Teams are doubling two guys," Moss and Cooley, "and running combo coverages to take those guys out, and forcing your hand," Campbell said.

Well jasom , if they doubling two of ur WD you should be able to through it to third WD since he will by him self.
The truth about Jason is he is not quick and he only looking for cooly or moss and thats why he is 4th in saks. He is good for back up QB but u need a QB that aggrassive and dose not lock into main WD.Te reason he got few Interceptions; is becuse he rather hold the ball and take the sack. He is as good as other QB. They need to try Brenen colt, and see what he got.I dont know y you so inlove with Jason. Redskins will go no where with jason. He is at best average QB and can be good back up QB becuse he can manage the game well since he dose nottake risk.Juat asl Smaule how hard it is to defend the left side for Jason cambell.

Posted by: avazi10 | December 6, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Just do wat atlanta and baltimore dose . Take a littel risk. Try your rooky QB and gave him a chance. After all he did pretty good in preseason. And maybe , Ol can breath a littel bitsince he is quicker than jason nad dose not hold the ball too long. He laos dosn't mind to take risks.

Posted by: avazi10 | December 6, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm afraid bama gonna win this one

Posted by: dealer1 | December 6, 2008 6:12 PM

I'm saying Florida can still pull it out. I know it's a longshot, but I think they're gonna do it.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 6, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping Bama would win...oh well.

Riggins just CRUCIFIED the Skins on Redskins Report....said there is absolutely no way we win tomorrow.

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 6, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

JC could make some better reads, the line could pass block better, the receivers could run their routes better and get more seperation, coach could call less predictable plays....hell, I guess we could go on with everyone but pulling your starting QB for an unproven rookie...Im afraid we don't have the luxury of giving him a few games to work things out. The current starting squad needs to suck it up and put together a string a wins that we saw them do early in the season....by the way exactly what dialec is that awazi10

Posted by: myrtle_beach_fan | December 6, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Woohoo gonna love watching sabans presser!!!! That was close phew!!!

Posted by: dealer1 | December 6, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Lisa,

Loved the rumor on Redskins Report: Zorn goest to Seattle for draft picks and Mora comes to the 'Skins. Everyone on the report was laughing about it.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 6, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Lisa,

Have no fear... there is a chance we win and a very good one at that...

Zornie has to know by now that he needs to open it up a bit more.. i think you'll see more spread "O" tomorrow... SOUPS GETS ON THE HORSE TRAILER TOMORROW NIGHT....... YOU HEARD IT HEAR FIRST!!!!!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 6, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Now there's a surprise. Both Jason and Jasno like the Ravens. What's that about?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 6, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Are there any people who watch Baltimore closely enough to say whether Ngata is the NT or a DT (obviously 4-3, so one of the outside down linemen is also a DT?). The NFL site lists Bannan as the NT and Trevor Pryce as a DT (who I've thought of as DE). Jasno said something about Bart Scott (one of the inside LBs) playing as an end (or at least "down"). Frankly, I've never really thought that much about the 4-3. More than that, I don't think I've seen a Ravens game this season. Seems like before they played it like NE did (does), but something seems different about it.

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Goofed there, the NFL site calls Ngata a DE (as well as the guy behind him and Pryce on the depth chart).

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

I watched the Comcast video ... its much different than the hostage videos of Jason Unrestricted.

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Quick check: Should I be glued to Missouri-Oklahoma? Or should I do as requested, and screen "The Incredible Mr. Limpet" for themes and situations unsuitable for young eyes? [I haven't seen it since I was about 12.]

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

SWEEN,

When did the Ravens switch from a 3-4? Has it been that long since I've watched them??

Damn sooners.......

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 6, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Wait, I'm slightly twisted. I mean four linebackers and three down linemen. That's 4-3, right? As I was typing it the first time, I was thinking about linebackers.

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Ravens use 3-4
has a nose tackle, which is also a DT.
The ends are usually combo/DT guys, to...the rush comes from Suggs, Scott coming off the edge...there is a weakside and strong side ILB...Ray Lewis plays a roamer, so the ILB's are probably interchangeable...A lot of the Ravens are, so that's why Pryce is listed at tackle..he can play both, depends on where they want the blitz coming from

4-3, like the Skins, two DT's. Dont ususally line up on the nose, and if one does, the whole line is offset...the LE would be on the RT's outside shoulder, instead of directly in front of him...RE would be on LT's inside shoulder..the other DT over LG...depends on which gaps they are responsible for, each of these formations may have tons of variations

Posted by: kreator6996 | December 6, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm also bummed b/c I was getting psyched for Limpet, but both sides are unplayable. Damb Netflix.

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

3 - 4 is 4 LB's.... like the cowboys... a lot of people want us to drop J. Taylor off the line to be more of a 3 -4, but I don't think that's our answer. he get killed back there...

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 6, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm also bummed b/c I was getting psyched for Limpet, but both sides are unplayable. Damb Netflix.

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 8:36 PM

Everytime I've had a bad Netflix (about one in five) I've washed it with a sponge and detergent in the kitchen sink, dried if off real well, and that's fixed it.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 6, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

3 - 4 is 4 LB's.... like the cowboys... a lot of people want us to drop J. Taylor off the line to be more of a 3 -4, but I don't think that's our answer. he get killed back there...

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 6, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

I never thought to take the subliminal message approach.

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 6, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Clegg, thanks ... and I sent myself to wikipedia. My duh on 3-4/4-3. I love this one,"[Tom] Landry built the 4-3 defense around me. It revolutionized defense and opened the door for all the variations of zones and man-to-man coverage, which are used in conjunction with it today." Giants Hall of Fame linebacker, Sam Huff.

Anyway, my point is that the way the Ravens play the 3-4 differently from how the Chargers and New England (and definitely the Cowboys) or, at least, Ngata makes it different ... [or perhaps, according to the depth chart on the Ravens' website, the depth chart on the NFL website is incorrect].

Now for the subliminal part ... the 3-4 twice is 6-8, which if it were played by Nigel, would go one louder ... to a 6-9.

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

There's such a fine line between subliminal ... and stupid.

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

For me there was usually a conga line between subliminal and stupid.

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 6, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Subliminal or Stupid???? Does it really matter at this point?

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 6, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Things I'd like to see next season:

A couple of the young O-linemen playing, and playing well.
A draft to fill needs vs, (The best player available nonsense)
S. Springs retirement.
Portis gettingt spelled a bit more, by a good rookie RB, not Ooops I fumbled again, Betts.
Thrash on Teams only, means finally a your WR has beaten him out, actually, ARE on teams only too, or maybe in the wildcat package a few times.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | December 6, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Sween, do you have x box? Please do share your findings

Posted by: dealer1 | December 6, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

What I'd like to see:

A - A stadium in DC.
2 - this so called "line" between sublminal and stupid.
D - A chimp on rollerskates

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 6, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

ETROD,

WE WILL see a Stadium in DC... Danno can't stand that the 'Pokes are getting a Super Bowl and he's not.... You will see one with a retractable on the site of RFK.... PG County loves that land too much and Danno will sell it as soon as the market comes back around.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 6, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

kreator, I missed your explanation the first time I checked back ... thanks.

Given the fires of hell that would be unleashed over taking down RFK and, presumably, the Armory (and given the District's "comprehensive plan" for the Anacostia), I think it would be VERY painful for all involved to try to build another stadium at the RFK site ... the kind of stadium that would be "necessary" for current league (read owners) purposes (and intents ... for all "intensive purposes).

Better location would be up North Cap, around that area btwn Catholic University, the hospital center, the VA hospital, and the McMillan Reservoir. The tricky part there would be inserting a short metro line that just ran between the Red Line and the Green line. That area is some of the last big open space in the District (bigger than the RFK space).

That doesn't mean everyone won't continue to assume that it has to be at RFK and won't kill themselves over trying to put a new stadium in the RFK space.

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Question: Would it even be POSSIBLE to run the kind of "no huddle" offense that Oklahoma runs in the NFL? I mean the part about how they don't ever huddle up and every play gets called in by hand signals on every play, where everyone but the linemen watch are responsible for their part in the signals (including the freeze play where the QB makes adjustments based on what the defense is showing)? The Oklahoma offense seems like it runs a lot more different stuff than the Skins do. Or would that be the problem? Or would the problem be that every half all the hand signals would need to change b/c pro defenses would crack that hand signal code so quickly? Doesn't look the Missouri defenders even look at the coach(es?) on the sideline doing the hand signals.

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Sween,

That's what Big Brother Manning has done most of the past 5 yrs or so... they have a base play called and he adjusts the play and protection based on the D....

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 6, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Sween, You bring up good questions/counters to the Oklahoma offense working in the pros but to me the biggest difference between any college offense to any pro offense is the use of the wide side of the field.

With the hash marks setting up two-thirds of the field to one side, plays are often called to exploit athletic mismatches to the wide side.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 6, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Need Sunday to start with the Saints beating the Falcons, then the Steelers beating the Cowboys and finishing with the Redskins taking care of the Ravens.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 7, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Or should I do as requested, and screen "The Incredible Mr. Limpet" for themes and situations unsuitable for young eyes? [I haven't seen it since I was about 12.]

Posted by: dcsween | December 6, 2008 8:22 PM


sween, if you saw it when you were 12 and don't remember it, wouldn't that indicate that it doesn't contain themes and situations unsuitable for young eyes? ;-)

Posted by: freakzilla | December 7, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

I'd have to say this week's most interested spectator would have to be Colt Brennan.....Jason Campbell is likely to finish the season with average numbers compared to the contract he will demand two offseasons from now, or the extension he could demand this offseason....do you see the skins giving campbell another year to "prove" himself? What if its another average year? We would be yet another year behind a Tim Tebow, Grahmn Harrel, Carson Palmer, Matt Cassel, etc. Plus we would in all likelyhood have lost Colt Brennan and would be at the mercy of Jason Campbell's contract demands in a year that, as of now, has NO SALARY CAP. If we stick with Campell this offseason we will have to stick with him for at least 4-6 more years. What has he shown us so far to warrant that? And perhaps the bigger question is, what WILL he show us to warrent that?

Posted by: ncoxx002 | December 7, 2008 3:09 AM | Report abuse

What has he shown us so far to warrant that? And perhaps the bigger question is, what WILL he show us to warrent that?

Posted by: ncoxx002 | December 7, 2008 3:09 AM

The "bigger question?" You bet. It's all about the future and the future is always harder to know than the past.

Isn't this the problem with every player? You can lock him up now for one price. If you wait a year and he's a pro-bowler, everyone in the league will want him and you'll pay five times as much. If you wait a year and he's a bust, well, you'll be glad you waited a year. Imagine how little New England could have paid Matt Cassell in August to extend his contract two or three years and compare it to what they'd have to pay him today.

And all the other QBs you mention? How would they have done this year with the Skins' receivers and offensive line? Tim Tebow? He's never thrown a pass (or tried to run) in the NFL. Will he be the next Joe Flacco or the next Danny Wuerful? That's your "bigger question."

There are no sure things in the NFL, and if there were, you'd have to pay for them. Assume Tim Tebow were a sure thing: what do you think it would cost the 'Skins -- in picks and $ -- to get him?

QB is not the biggest need on this team. Campbell's proven he can play. We need to get better on the lines. Then we'll see how good he can become.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 7, 2008 6:56 AM | Report abuse

I'm already having a bad feeling about this game tonight. We've all seen what happens to this team when they play great defenses, I have a feeling this game will look similar to the Steelers game....what a fun game that was...

Posted by: rachel216 | December 7, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Clegg, I know that BBM does the whole floppy armed huddle thing (tho sometimes they do huddle up), but it seems like he is running the whole show. I guess it makes sense that he could be getting the initial call over the headset, but Oklahoma looked liked everyone (other than the linemen) was watching the sidelines for an elaborate hand signal dance, then they went up to execute, seemingly knowing the play will be adjusted by the QB before the snap. NFL seems soooo faster than college, I just wondered whether something like the Oklahoma deal might be feasible. I'm guessing probably, at least bits of it.

Posted by: dcsween | December 7, 2008 8:55 AM | Report abuse

next season's probably the make or break for JC's status as the QB of the future. Zorn has done a pretty fine job of making this team a contender for the better part of a season, considering all the question marks at many of the positions during the off-season. My guess is we won't make the final cut, but we gave it a helluva run after that first Giants game. As far as Tim Tebow, his reward for a great Florida career? You could be the starting QB for the Detroit Lions! Yikes! But knowing the Lions, they'll draft a WR first....

Posted by: davebutz | December 7, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the thanks, sween.
Nigel reference,very cool. =)

Posted by: kreator6996 | December 7, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Whoever the GM for Detroit turns out to be, he has to know that they are (and be allowed to start) rebuilding ... which means that they need to find their OC asap, and then start thinking about offensive linemen, BOTH in free agency and the draft.

The reason for the Jets' success (and Favre's decision to go there) is because they've focused on the offensive line over the past two years in the draft and free agency (esp. the Brick and Mangold two years ago, plus Woody and Faneca last year).

Skins need to think like that given the vintage of the O-line, lest we become the Rams or Chiefs ... whose lines fell apart essentially all at the same time.

Posted by: dcsween | December 7, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

SMACK, now in the unintoxicated light of day, I have to admit, I didn't get your line about the subliminal message approach.

Posted by: dcsween | December 7, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

next season's probably the make or break for JC's status as the QB of the future.

Posted by: davebutz | December 7, 2008 8:56 AM

After next year JC will not be the Redskins' "QB of the future." He's been around too long for that. He will either the the QB of the present, or the QB of the past.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 7, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Zorn:
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshti!
Gimmicks, gadgets, and gizmo's, dude!
or
"loosen up, zorn baby!"
Whaddaya got 2 lose?

Posted by: ILikeSonny | December 7, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Fletcher: Playing.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I'd have to say this week's most interested spectator would have to be Colt Brennan.....Jason Campbell is likely to finish the season with average numbers compared to the contract he will demand two offseasons from now, or the extension he could demand this offseason....do you see the skins giving campbell another year to "prove" himself? What if its another average year?

Posted by: ncoxx002

What do you consider "average"?

Would, say, 3400 yds, 14 TDs, 5 INTs, 64% completion be average (his projections based on his averages so far this season)?

Was David Garrard average last year?

I'm trying to get a sense of what people expect out of a Redskins QB. Are you waiting for the next Tom Brady or Peyton Manning?

Keep in mind that JC is doing this with an underperforming offensive line in pass-protection, and very underwhelming WRs/TEs (other than Santana Moss and Chris Cooley). What happens if Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly grow into starting-caliber WRs? What happens if Chad Rinehart and Stephon Heyer become solid pass-protectors in the future? Would his numbers still be average?

Would you be willing to give up a completely dependable quarterback like JC in the hopes that another QB becomes the next Tom Brady or Peyton Manning (once-or-twice-in-a-generation players)?

These are the questions you need to ask yourself. It's not as simple as "oh his numbers are average". If it were that simple, people would have been ready to dump Clinton Portis a couple years ago. How's that worked out?

Posted by: spizzle | December 7, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

watching Tebow last night throw to his receivers when they were covered up, makes we wonder if J Gibbs hasn't made JC simply too risk adverse? He won't take a chance. Two TD's Tebow threw last night, his WR's were blanketed. JC wouldn't even try that sort of throw.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | December 7, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Thunder - did u really have any doubts?

TE - I'd like to quote the Geico caveman..."Yea, I have a response...uh WHAT??" Campbell is NOT one year from being gone, no chance. You seem to forget that this is really only his first full season as a starter...oh yea, and a new coach/offense, I believe his sixth system in as many years. To say he is up or out next yr is, quite frankly/with all due respect, absurd.

HAIL

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | December 7, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Keep in mind that JC is doing this with an underperforming offensive line in pass-protection...

Come on, spizzle. Are you implying it's hard to pass the ball when a 300 lb offensive lineman is being flung at your head?
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 7, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

lol thunder

well done spizzle. quoting the inestimable Clark W. Grizwold, "Thank YOU, Audrey"

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | December 7, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

The O-line is a liability, no doubt, but JC is so risk averse, it has to have been drilled into him by the coaches. Perhaps, this is one reason why Saunders and Gibbs didn't see eye-to-eye?

Posted by: lsskinsfan | December 7, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

(Great season, Bama. Thanks! Too bad about that intentional grounding call (not) that led to a Fla td...Great season, anyway. Yall showed true Tide class.)

Is there a way to watch the Redskins Report from last night online?

Posted by: columbiard | December 7, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

ITTDGY - You were right. Lots of Flurries last night. Not cold enough to stick or stay snow......

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 7, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

"loosen up, zorn baby!"
Whaddaya got 2 lose?

Posted by: ILikeSonny | December 7, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

agreed/nice allusion to classic Riggo

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | December 7, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Our snow is all sticking around, 4th. It's cold on the other side of the Appalachians.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

"but JC is so risk averse, it has to have been drilled into him by the coaches."

He has been, yes, but not to a fault. He's given his WRs chances to make plays for him. He's thrown into double coverage on occasion. Not a lot (which is a good thing), but he has done it. It's just that his WRs haven't made the plays. And it's not just one guy - Moss has dropped them, Thrash has dropped them, Kelly has dropped a couple, Thomas has committed PI penalties, Randle El was beat to the underthrown deep pass against the Giants (unable to go up over the defenders or even make a play to break up the pass). He's risk averse because his WRs haven't given him any reason to believe they can make a play. I haven't seen one "wow" catch yet this year, from anybody. Moss is the only one who comes close, but his "wow" plays are mostly because he gets ridiculous separation, not because he has highlight reel grabs.

That's my opinion. Once his WRs give him reason to take chances, then he'll be a lot less averse to do so. But if they continue to struggle with even routine catches, I'm all for JC protecting the ball.

Posted by: spizzle | December 7, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

That throw to Kelly on third down in the 3rd quarter of the Giants game was a thing of beauty.

But Kelly dropped it. That was a chance for Kelly to put his name on the map (not to mention, for us to have a first down deep in Giant territory while the game was still a game).

Doh!
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 7, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Malcolm- it's time to step up, pal. I don't care if you missed half the season and are only 21. You're a physical beast with SUPPOSEDLY good hands. Make a friggin play.

Devin- coming along, but you need to work harder at learning the playbook.

Dedicate yourselves to excellence and you have a great chance of achieving it. Skate by on your talent, and you can join Michael Westbrook and a litany of others as "what could've beens"

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | December 7, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Please let us win this so we can shut JLC up for the rest of the year.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 7, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, now in the unintoxicated light of day, I have to admit, I didn't get your line about the subliminal message approach.

Posted by: dcsween | December 7, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

We should probably trade you for two late-round posters while you still have some value.

Posted by: SMACK1 | December 7, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

lest we trade away a franchise poster for one transgression, we mustn't forget that wormwood can dull even the senses of even the sharpest among us. on the other hand it greatly enhances the ability to speak in tongues and converse with pink elephants

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | December 7, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

TJ is doing a nice breakdown or Portis and Ray Lewis on ESPN

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | December 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

BALTIMORE FORECAST

"Sunday night: Partly cloudy skies with gusty winds. Low 24F. Winds WNW at 20 to 30 mph."

The bad news is this means the Ravens Three headed Monster of RBs goes up in value, while a beat up Oline and a beat up Portis hurts the skins.

The good news is an inexperienced QB like Flacco may get careless and put some balls up that can be picked. (CAVEAT: Skins DBs have to actually catch them, too)

Cold weather may also mean more fumbles.

Skins must win turnover game, play flawlessly, put Crazy glue on Ladell's digits.

Oh, and in week 14, is it asking TOO MUCH for at least one of the second rounders to finally have a breakout game?

I'm thinking Kelly, but heaven help any of them if the wind or a bad throw causes JC to overlead a receiver in Ed Reed or Ray Lewis territory.

Heroic Defensive game and win the trunover battle and the 'skins win.

Anything else and it will be ugly here next week, if that's not redundant.


Posted by: TheCork | December 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

That's my opinion. Once his WRs give him reason to take chances, then he'll be a lot less averse to do so. But if they continue to struggle with even routine catches, I'm all for JC protecting the ball.

Posted by: spizzle

Nice analysis spizz.

I think that you and I may both be right, a little of coaches in the past and poor WR play causes some of the maddening patting of the ball, looking mechanical out there, and uncertainty JC displays. This of course is apparent only a few times a game since the line pass blocks as well as my grandma could. She's been dead a year now, God Bless her!
If he could just play football with a more carefree attitude, I think we'd see better results. Zorn says he's seen flashes of it, so maybe another off season with Zorn erasing all the game mgmt BS and instilling more confidence in JC will pay off.
Everyone knows the line sucks and the receivers stink like rotting eggs.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | December 7, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

+++Please let us win this so we can shut JLC up for the rest of the year.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage++++

Fair enough, because as we all know, it's the journalism of one shlub that is causing the Redskins to lose. You have correctly sussed out that he is a secret agent for the enemy, is paid off by Dallas, has a 666 carved on his head, took a tire iron to Kelly's knee, put fake pages in Thomas's playbook, slipped a laxative in Vinny's Bosco and slept with everyone's sister.

Dude, he's a sportswriter. Sportswriters were born bad and trained to be lifelong irritants like sand in your bunched up shorts. But if you don't understand it isn't JLC's fault the Redskins have made bad trades, bad draft picks and bad FA pickups, maybe YOU should consider taking the rest of the year off.

Just kidding. Keep posting. Pollyannas have rights, too.

But shooting the messengers doesn't improve the franchise.

Meanwhile I'll root for a Redskins win because I'm a Redskins fan.

Posted by: TheCork | December 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Fair enough, because as we all know, it's the journalism of one shlub that is causing the Redskins to lose.

Are you Fi***** kidding me? How did you get that out of my statement?

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Now there's a thought...

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | December 7, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

It's been a long time but I got to pull the hammer out. Smack to the back of my own damn head for responding to Cork lame ass post.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I know I'm supposed to be rooting for the Gints to beat the Eagles, since the Gints are going to win the East anyway, but there's still a part of me that really wants to see them lose.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I can't root for the Giants. No effin' way.

I'll root for a tie.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Whether PHL loses or not is almost irrelevant. PHL has a very outside shot of making the playoffs, probably worse than WSH. I would like this NYG team to lose too, but it's probably not going to happen.

Posted by: jiacinto | December 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

TE - I'd like to quote the Geico caveman..."Yea, I have a response...uh WHAT??" Campbell is NOT one year from being gone, no chance. You seem to forget that this is really only his first full season as a starter...oh yea, and a new coach/offense, I believe his sixth system in as many years. To say he is up or out next yr is, quite frankly/with all due respect, absurd.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | December 7, 2008 11:40 AM

Thanks for the due respect although I'm not sure what I've done to deserve it. And, I gather that you're not either.

They're going to have to either give Campbell a big, long-term contract or let him go after next year. What other choice is there? A one-year extension to give him more time to learn the offense?

Campbell's been here almost four years, has been a starter for two, and by now I think they've seen enough to know what they want to do. I think they'll sign him for the long term. But Zorn will make the decision and he could be looking for something different than what Campbell offers.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 7, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Whether PHL loses or not is almost irrelevant. PHL has a very outside shot of making the playoffs, probably worse than WSH. I would like this NYG team to lose too, but it's probably not going to happen.

Posted by: jiacinto | December 7, 2008 1:23 PM

No way the Giants lose. Have you ever noticed that the refs give them all the calls?

beeb peep

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I've made that point, Talent_Evaluator. I've seen the refs give the NYG all the calls.

Posted by: jiacinto | December 7, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

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