Cast Your Vote on Sanchez

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What a ridiculous notion. Why would we do that with no offensive line? Why O Why.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 15, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

NO WAY!

Posted by: Redskins001 | April 15, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

This should be a vote on Michael Oher. I've heard some differing opions on him, but it seems he's more likely to be at 13 than Andre Smith. I'm all for him...

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | April 15, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

We don't have anything to offer as a trade-up. What, our 13th and the 3rd rounder? No one in their right mind would take that. Let's get serious here.

Posted by: bones21 | April 15, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

If we do that, we risk this being the worst draft in Redskins history. There are glaring needs on this team and if none of them are filled then we will continue to be the laughing stock of the league.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 15, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Gee, this is going to be a close vote!

Posted by: RambleOn | April 15, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Who is voting Yes?

And Why?

Posted by: theFreshinAU | April 15, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Trade bait...

Posted by: siris | April 15, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

It's a whole lot easier to trade down if a player other teams are salivating over falls your draft position. That's why I think the Skins best chance to trade down will occur if and only if Sanchez is not selected by Denver (or another team trading up to #12). Otherwise, I hope they keep the pick and select a RT or SLB.

Posted by: siris | April 15, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I understand the trade bait thing.

But I don't think the FO's of the teams that might want Sanchez are checking out this blog to see if we(the fans) think we(the team) is going to get him. And if they are they will probably realize that no one here has a clue as to what this FO will do.

Posted by: theFreshinAU | April 15, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

hey bones- Danny boy just might trade next years 1st rounder to move up this season...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

this would be the ultimate Plaxico move, as in, for the love of God lets not shoot our selves in the leg.
I will be sacrificing a goat on draft day to ensure this horrible, horrible, idea does not come to fruition.

Posted by: SkinsInSichuan | April 15, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

can I get in on some of the sacrificial goat action? Sounds tasty1

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I was dumb enough to buy premium tickets I can't wait until my contract expires because I can't commit to this fool snyder in 6yr increments. I still don't think we'll go for sanchez but the fact that this guy just might do it is embarrassing enough.

Posted by: AdamCr | April 15, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I will be sacrificing a goat on draft day to ensure this horrible, horrible, idea does not come to fruition.

Posted by: SkinsInSichuan | April 15, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Better make it 2. 3 to be on the safe side.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 15, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Slaying a few chickens never hurt either and they are a bit tastier than the goat...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Sanchez is so good he was the backup to leinart, a backup to an intended backup. Leinart is a top 10 pick more famous for funneling beer than earning a starting job that was his to lose.

And you want to talk about low intelligence qbs? Look no further than Matty "L".

Posted by: AdamCr | April 15, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I think we are going about thsi all wrong. We whine, piss, moan etc...and think that it's going to do us (the fans) any good. Snyder is never going to listen to this team's fanbase SO let's find someway to contact Sanchez and tell him he is persona no grata. Scare him off have him tell Vinnie don't draft me i'm not playing for the Redskins. worth a shot?

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Sanchez - Championship.

Fu*k you Snyder. How you got to be so rich while being so stupid never ceases to amaze me.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | April 15, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Is this a joke? Though Sanchez is a nice prospect, few on this blog would support drafting him at #13. Trading additional picks (scarce as they are) to move up for him? I can't imagine.

Posted by: GshawnJohnson | April 15, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

It's almost comical to think a rookie QB can come in here with the same line that allowed Campbell to be tossed around like a rag doll, and be productive and lead us to the playoffs. Why is this even being discussed?

Posted by: FedorEm | April 15, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

April 25--Redskins trade two 1sts & a 3rd to Seattle & draft Sanchez.

April 27--Ludacris goes to court & changes name to Bob so as to never hear his name again in the same sentence with Daniel Snyder.

Posted by: will_ga | April 15, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

even if you're one of the people that think that JC17 is the worst QB in the league, drafting sanchez makes absolutely no sense -- especially if we have to trade up to get him.... give JC one more shot, if he doesn't cut it, his contract is up, and we can trade 5 picks to move up and take mccoy or bradford next season, who are and will be better than sanchez...

this team, especially with the contracts to hall and haynesworth, is in 'win now' mode... why give big al 32 mil to watch sanchez develop the next 13 months?

Posted by: poopoobigelow | April 15, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

That weirdo Kiper has us taking Sanchez, the other dude McShay has us taking Robert Ayers. I am not sold on the OT's. I think some guys will be available later, so trading back would be good so we can fill more holes. I would like to get 1 starter out of this draft, after the 1st round starters are less of a sure thing.

Posted by: FedorEm | April 15, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse
That's why we should stay at #13, if ASmith orMOher is available.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 15, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Becaue Pete Carroll has told Dan that mark has the mobility that campbell lacks and that will make the difference. Nevermind that Carroll said Sanchez shoul NOT come out for the draft and left him at the podium. i believe this here blog even stated that Pete's word carried a lot of weight within the FO.

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, you're all missing the real point. Teams win/lose games during the season, but fans buy season tickets during the offseason. Therefore, Snyder seems to be basing his entire ownership strategy on making a big splash every offseason, and for most casual fans, that means "skill" positions that have stats attached. I don't think he believes he can get ticket-holders to re-up by drafting on the lines. And as long as people keep validating this, he's unlikely to change.
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Posted by: groundhogdayguy | April 15, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Very interesting, groundhogdayguy. Snidely is a marketing guy. That really fits.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 15, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: frediefritz | April 15, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Redskins already have a great QB in Colt Brennan, maybe once Campbell finishes this year, Colt will get his chance

Posted by: pquick6165 | April 15, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I will qualify my "No" vote with the following notice:

If Mark Sanchez is drafted, he must be named starter the following day.

Jason Campbell must be traded on draft day for a pick which is then turned into an offensive lineman.

No fan wants to watch the farce that will follow if Campbell is still on the team keeping a seat warm for a guy drafted high.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 15, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, you're all missing the real point. Teams win/lose games during the season, but fans buy season tickets during the offseason. Therefore, Snyder seems to be basing his entire ownership strategy on making a big splash every offseason, and for most casual fans, that means "skill" positions that have stats attached. I don't think he believes he can get ticket-holders to re-up by drafting on the lines. And as long as people keep validating this, he's unlikely to change.
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Posted by: groundhogdayguy | April 15, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Very interesting, groundhogdayguy. Snidely is a marketing guy. That really fits.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 15, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: frediefritz | April 15, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Not a bad point at all but what really fills the seats is winning and what really fills the pockets are hosting home playoff games and even more so winning a freakin Super bowl. Have you ever seen so much Steeler sh!t in your life? look at the $$$ in merchandise, winning sells almost as much as sex and that's why they have the cheerleaders...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

TRADE UP??? We'd be idiots for drafting him at 13! WE NEED LINEMEN and LB's. Campbell showed last year how he can perform when the rest of the team is healthy and performing.

Snyder is a fcking clown and needs to be removed. The entire Skins community hates him.

HTTR.

Posted by: kdog11 | April 15, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Is this rumor even true?

Posted by: clark202 | April 15, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

KDog is right the redskins would be idiots for getting that unproven one year wonder, and if they did it would be one of the biggest sports blunders ever

Posted by: Tom_square | April 15, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Just remember, last year, when all thought that Fassel was about to be named the HC, that the virulent reaction, led by RI, seemed to at least give Danny pause.

That, said - the utter brain-deadedness of picking Sanchez would top any stupid move that this front office has made since arriving in Landover.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 15, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

And the gerrymandering (apologies to those of German descent) continues.

Who are these "sources" and why not really smoke this out and put it in the actual sports section if there really are such "rumors" floating about? Anonymous sources have never stopped Jasno from going public before. And if it's true then it's a huge story. Why not lead with it if it can truly be substantiated?

Posted by: LarryBud | April 15, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Alright, I'm back to quitting the Skins. IF they come out of this draft (largely touted as one of the deepest Oline drafts in many years) with a QB and a CB as their top two picks, I'm done.

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 15, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Puleez! No to Sanchez and especially NO to moving up to get him!

Can someone please tell me of a USC QB who has had great success except for Carson Palmer? Maybe there are some but I can't think of them. Matt Leinart is still riding the pine and Matt Cassell looked pretty good in New England - but then again that was New England where winning is inevitable. And I don't beleive Cassell ever even played at USC.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 15, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Is this rumor even true?

Posted by: clark202 | April 15, 2009 12:45 PM |

It must be because JLC who has great sources at the park (LOL) is reporting it.

I will take the wait and see approach, because most of what JLC reports is BS anyway.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 15, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

How many times has JLC said his inside person or around the park this is being said and it turns out true? How many times is he late in reporting true stories? To me this is a non story. And I am sure JLC won't come on and say he or his inside person was wrong.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | April 15, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I will qualify my "No" vote with the following notice:

If Mark Sanchez is drafted, he must be named starter the following day. Jason Campbell must be traded on draft day for a pick which is then turned into an offensive lineman.

GOOD LUCK with that one ...

No fan wants to watch the farce that will follow if Campbell is still on the team keeping a seat warm for a guy drafted high.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 15, 2009

AND IF IT HAPPENNS ... there go MistaMoe's rosy, polly-anna, crystal blue persuasion, indigo aura predictions .... *0*-*16* and the
first pick in 2010's draft.

Posted by: periculum | April 15, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

"And the gerrymandering (apologies to those of German descent) continues."

Apology not accepted. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to my bratwurst and hefeweizen.

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | April 15, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I've figured it out.... Dan Snyder has a factory that makes Burgundy and Gold paper bags, suitable for use as a hood, for fans to wear; he got the idea from the Lions, his model.

Posted by: WEWard3 | April 15, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Snidely Owl, Snidely Owl riding through the glen.
Snidely Owl, Snidely Owl with his band of yes men.
Feared by Redskins Fans!
Loved by Players' Agents!
Snidely Owl! Snidely Owl! Snidely Owl!

Posted by: periculum | April 15, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I "hear" ya Flounder21. :-)

Posted by: clark202 | April 15, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Hey Dan Snyder. DRAFT OFFENSIVE LINEMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We could have Tom Brady, P. Manning, and Joe Montana on our team and we would still stink. You cant win if you cant block for your QB. Its as simple as that.

Posted by: SkinsOsHokies | April 15, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

For those who like to host draft parties with lots of pizza, Dominos has a new topping: boogers!! Yum, yum.....After yesterdays video I'm not sure I can order from there again.

Posted by: will_ga | April 15, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Is this rumor even true?

Posted by: clark202 | April 15, 2009

Unfortunately, Mel Kiper is a good inside source at Redskins Park. Snyder will try, whether he will succeed is another story entirely.

This you can be sure of.

Posted by: periculum | April 15, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Yoder,

I assumed, like myself, that you were of Swiss descent. Only the Swiss can truly Yodel, my friend. Also, we're good at cheese, knives and Toblerone. Ummm... and hiding money and guarding the pope.

Posted by: LarryBud | April 15, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, Mel Kiper is a good inside source at Redskins Park. Snyder will try, whether he will succeed is another story entirely.

This you can be sure of.

Posted by: periculum | April 15, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

#1- How do you know Kiper is "the source". He's really good at speculating and never admitting he was wrong, but what do you base his sourceness on?

B- See #1.

Posted by: LarryBud | April 15, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

JM220....I know you like to hammer away at your only point, but considering that JLC happens to actually be late to this story and many other reporters/draft dudes have been talking about it for awhile now...sorta argues against your thesis.....

Posted by: chrislarry | April 15, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I have to reevaluate my no a little. I have long been a JC hater and still am, so IMHO we need an upgrade there eventually. However, I don't want to do it at the expense of more pressing needs right now than upgrading over a mediocre but not terrible young starter. So it all depends on what they give up to move up to get him. If its say our 1, a 5 this year and a 3 next year I'm ok, if its our 1 and 3 this year I'm not.

A starting guard will be available in the 3rd. A quality RT like Loadholt may also be there so if it is giving our 3rd this year I'm against it. Unless they can spin off JC for a replacement 3rd or even a 4th and a 6th. We need 2 young guys on the Oline and we need 2 young LBs. So if they can make a move to get Sanchez and keep 4 picks to get those bodies I'm ok with it. Anything that results in us getting less than a guard, a tackle, and two LBs I'm against.

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 15, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

REBUILDING YEAR. REBUILDING YEAR. REBUILDING YEAR.

Explain why we need one guy (who if he goes down or gets suspended won't be replaced) in Haynesworth if this is a rebuilding year?

Snidely the Owl, he thinks he's on a streak, the only thing the Snidely knows is what's between butt cheeks.

Posted by: periculum | April 15, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Larry,

That's an honest mistake. I'm a mut anyways...the last name just paints me as a stubborn beer-lover with aspirations of world domination. I bet the Swiss and Germans can agree on one thing though: Swedish chicks are smokin' hot.

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | April 15, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

#1- How do you know Kiper is "the source". He's really good at speculating and never admitting he was wrong, but what do you base his sourceness on?

B- See #1.

Posted by: LarryBud | April 15, 2009

Read my previous comments dude.

MEL KIPER's TOP FIVE RECEIVERS in 2008's draft: There were THREE ON THE LIST including #1 who never visited Redskins Park. Who were those three?

Devin Thomas #1
Malcolm Kelly #2
Fred Davis.

Is that enough for you?

Posted by: periculum | April 15, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

In other words either Vinny does what Mel predicts or Vinny helps Mel with "his picks". Either way they must interact on a regular basis

Posted by: periculum | April 15, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Mel kiper graded our draft last year with a B+. This guy is for the birds!!

Posted by: BurgwithaU | April 15, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Snidely REPLACE Zorn with Tom Cruise. Let's go Hollywood!

Posted by: periculum | April 15, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I'll go against the grain and make an argument for drafting Sanchez. For the record, I pretty much hate Danny & Vinny so don't take it as any kind of defense of them. Furthermore, I actually like Jason Campbell, and hope he gets a shot to run the team this year, and hope he shows what he can do.

That said, there are a couple of problems at QB right now. First, although I like JC, I am not convinced a WCO best uses his abilities. His biggest weakness is the quick read/quick throw. Second, and perhaps more importantly, he's not under contract beyond this season. So even if he has a great year, there are no assurances of his future in DC. So the conclusion from that is, we have a QB problem in 2010 no matter what.

I think few would argue QB is the most important position on the field. It's also the hardest to fill with a long-term solution. Therefore, even if it's a risk, the chance at obtaining young franchise QB may be a better use of draft picks than the chance at obtaining an equally risky player at another position.

But the crux of my argument is this -- in my opinion Sanchez could be the best player in the draft. I'm no expert, and so the value of this call is certainly questionable, but it's my call. I've gotten these right in the past (I thought the Skins should take Adrian Peterson because he was in my mind the best player in the draft) and I've gotten them wrong plenty of other times. But because of my view of his potential, I'd be very excited if he were a Redskin.

So if he falls into their laps at 13, I would be very happy to draft Sanchez. Given the lack of picks in the draft, I don't think I would want to give up much to move up and get him. After all, he, like any player in the draft, still has a good chance of disappointing. But versus an Ayers, a tweener like Maybin (who I like but don't think he is a fit unless they move Carter to LDE) or even an Orakpo (who I think is a big risk) I'd rather have Sanchez.

I am not in the camp that the Skins are close to a Super Bowl. Anything can happen -- look at the 2008 Cardinals -- but I wouldn't make my decisions on that basis. So investing for the future makes sense (and trading away future draft picks and signing character-issue free agents to mega-contracts does not). If Sanchez turns out to be a franchise QB, then you can build around him over the next 2-3 years and get to the SB.

I would not trade JC for a low round pick/couple of pics. Let him play this year. He's already been shown the lack of love, so this can't really make it any worse, and in a contract year maybe he makes the big leap forward. Worst case/best case you can re-sign JC and trade Sanchez for a number one next year.

Posted by: beatkal | April 15, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

From Yahoo Sports:

Will Jets move up to take USC's Sanchez?
USC quaretrback Mark Sanchez believes he impressed the New York Jets at a private workout last month. If he did, the team with the most unsettled quarterback situation in the NFL, will need to trade up to get him, according to the New York Daily News.

Owner Woody Johnson, GM Mike Tannenbaum and coach Rex Ryan, all attended, as they were in Southern California for the league meetings. They also dined with Sanchez at a nearby Mexican restaurant and tested his football mentality in a chalk-talk session at the team hotel, the Daily News reported.

"I think they were really impressed with everything that went on," said Sanchez, adding, "I threw it really well. I was spinning it all day. I knocked down all the throws. It was great." He also felt he dazzled them with his knowledge of a pro-style offense. As soon as I sat down with their team and their playbook, they were like, 'Wow, this kid has a natural feel for the game. He understands our offense very well,'" said Sanchez, adding that his agent has been talking "quite a bit" to the Jets.

If the Jets are convinced he's the real deal, they could trade up to grab him. The Jaguars (8th), 49ers (10th) and Redskins (13th) are potential landing areas for Sanchez, according to the Daily News.

Posted by: skinfanman | April 15, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

God, what an idiot. How do you justify taking a qb with one year starting when we have other pressing needs. Campbell may never be a Peyton or Brady, but I garuntee he'll have a better career than Sanchez. Why is it so hard for this organization to understand that great teams are stacked on both lines? I hear Six Flags is losing money, maybe Snyder won't be able to afford the skins anymore. One can only hope...

Posted by: DCinSD | April 15, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | April 15, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Is Mark Sanchez an offensive lineman....?
God Snyder and Carrot Muncher are so G D ridiculously retarted. Just let Jim Zorn evaluate talent.

Posted by: BMACattack | April 15, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

POLL QUESTION:

On opening day, Jason Campbell will be the
(starter, backup)
for the
(name a team)

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 15, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I think we got other decent grades for our draft last year besides Kiper. Most never dreamed we would have the almost "perfect storm" of futility that our draft picks turned into.

Posted by: will_ga | April 15, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

On opening day, Jason Campbell will be the
STARTER
for the
VIKINGS

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 15, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I would not trade JC for a low round pick/couple of pics. Let him play this year. He's already been shown the lack of love, so this can't really make it any worse, and in a contract year maybe he makes the big leap forward. Worst case/best case you can re-sign JC and trade Sanchez for a number one next year.

Posted by: beatkal | April 15, 2009

The problem with your scenarios is that Snyder will undoubtedly insist that Sanchez start if they lose any games. Sanchez will come in, with little experience and lacking a decent OL he will end up on the IR.

They get the first pick in next year's draft.

Every player worth anything wants out of Redskins Park. The coach is fired, The defensive coordinator retires.

Snyder can't find anyone worth a damn to replace them. Unless he agrees to give up any and all say in how players are selected and who plays.

Marty ball returns ... ~smiles~

Posted by: periculum | April 15, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm sitting back, got my popcorn, and I'm going to enjoy this......funny stuff all the way around...jm/flound, come on over, sit back and enjoy the train-wreck that RI will become.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 15, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

If Snyder somehow gets Sanchez he will start this year. If he does poorly, JZ will be blamed & ultimately fired.

2010 head coach= Dave Wannstedt. Why?? Because it makes as much sense as drafting Sanchez.

Posted by: will_ga | April 15, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

This will go on until draft day, it is so stupid and the number one idiot on here is driving the discussion.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 15, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

The problem with your scenarios is that Snyder will undoubtedly insist that Sanchez start if they lose any games. Sanchez will come in, with little experience and lacking a decent OL he will end up on the IR.

They get the first pick in next year's draft.

Every player worth anything wants out of Redskins Park. The coach is fired, The defensive coordinator retires.

Snyder can't find anyone worth a damn to replace them. Unless he agrees to give up any and all say in how players are selected and who plays.

Marty ball returns ... ~smiles~

Posted by: periculum | April 15, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I can't argue with any of that. I think you're right -- no matter what they do the front office will find a way to screw things up. Even though I might want to see them draft Sanchez, I would definitely prefer he sit the first year -- it's really rare you get a Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco who can win right off the bat, and both of those guys had far more experience in college. But the front office would find a way to screw up even if they drafted Jason Smith or Aaron Curry...

Posted by: beatkal | April 15, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

"Which non-playoff team from last year has the best chance of making the playoffs in 2009?

New England Patriots

52%

Chicago Bears

18%

Dallas Cowboys

14%

New Orleans Saints

9%

Washington Redskins

7%

Total Votes: 57969"

Posted by: swowra | April 15, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Trade the first round pick to the Federal Park Service for RFK stadium.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 15, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

The bottom line- Skins are trying to get the JETS to move up to the 13th slot by showing interest in him. I belive they will trade a number one next year for Brady Quinn and trade Jason Campbell for draft picks.

Posted by: pcater | April 15, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

If we draft Sanchez, ok i'll live with it but if we move up to draft Sanchez well then I'll have to deal with that too just won't be happy :(

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

flound, yup, and yup....I'm sitting back and laughing.....its high comedy...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 15, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

It's a smokescreen!!!The skins don't have enough ammo to draw interest!!But knowing the skins with their dumbass owner, anything is possible. This team is like a dog chasing his tail.What a laughingstock to the league!! Vinny you stupid imp !!!!

Posted by: joe12341 | April 15, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Sanchez will be gone before #13, so "smokescreen" theories just don't pan out.

McShay is talking about the best value for Sanchez at #8, thinking that the Jags will get the Jets R1, R2, and R4 picks.

Posted by: swowra | April 15, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

They'll probably draft QBs with their other three picks too.

Posted by: AsstGM | April 15, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm trying to think of another QB that would be harder to root for than if we traded for brady @$%^ quinn. Help me out...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Only if Sanchez is willing to start at offensive tackle

Posted by: Josh7 | April 15, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Some folks at Hogs Haven went to the Cooley fundraiser last night. Among the nuggets from the folks that attended.

"I have been very vocal about the Mark Sanchez rumors being nothing more than a smoke and mirrors show. That is definitely NOT true. If Sanchez is still on the board, there is a chance Washington will draft him."

http://www.hogshaven.com/2009/4/15/838472/daily-slop-cooleys-fundraiser

It seems there are a number of folks within the organization that believe Sanchez is a target.

Posted by: jesuisunpizza | April 15, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

another thought I had for discussion sake: Since I'm a Terminator fan I was thinking if we could go back in recent history and swap owners with another franchise who would it be and why?

My selection would be Jeff Laurie of the Eagles. Very sucessful, shrewd, drafts well and would put Snyder as an owner in our division making it much easier for us to suceed...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

clark

'...Is this rumor even true?'

No--that's why it's a rumor.

And because of it, the WA PO sports section is getting hits like Canseco on steriods.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 15, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

If Snyder somehow gets Sanchez he will start this year. If he does poorly, JZ will be blamed & ultimately fired.

2010 head coach= Dave Wannstedt. Why?? Because it makes as much sense as drafting Sanchez.

Posted by: will_ga | April 15, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I think Pete Carroll will be a lock for HC.

sarcasm ended/

Posted by: frediefritz | April 15, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

"Champs' Return...

And when Bailey is elected to the Hall of Fame sometime in the next decade, it will be as a Bronco, not a Redskin. And that's another black mark on Dan Snyder's ownership.

-- David Elfin"

Posted by: swowra | April 15, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Champ will have to get back to playing shape before talk of getting into the Hall. he hasn't had but 1 good season since he left us...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm trying to think of another QB that would be harder to root for than if we traded for brady @$%^ quinn. Help me out...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Jeff George has been rumored to be on his way for a workout.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 15, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Here's hoping Danny will see this and hold off till next year to draft a QB so that he can make mega cash from a skins wives/girlfriends calendar:

http://watchmojo.com/sports/blog/index.php?tag=gators

Posted by: will_ga | April 15, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

'...But the crux of my argument is this -- in my opinion Sanchez could be the best player in the draft. I'm no expert,...'


I'm no expert either, but Mark Sanchez is the last kid in this draft the skins need.

I'd rather take my chances with Campbell this season, and if he plans out, pay him. If he doesn't, there'll be better choices next season to select from.

Sanchez and Stafford are only in the draft this season as they know next year, they won't be regarded as highly--so why draft either of them now?

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 15, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm trying to think of another QB that would be harder to root for than if we traded for brady @$%^ quinn. Help me out...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 1:58 PM

Romo? Thats all I got.

Jeffrie Lurie is cheap. They would have won a superbowl already if they opened their wallet. I'd still take him over Snyder though. Some semblance of stability.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | April 15, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Alright, I'll take the bait on this question.

The main upside to drafting Sanchez would that losing would suck slightly less because I'd resent the organization that much more. I would just care less.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | April 15, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

don't like the question


honestly, I've thought about it and really don't think I'd mind the Sanchez pick. I wouldn't LIKE it, and it would probably be one of the worst options, but I've lost a lot of confidence in JC in the last 6 months or so, and I've heard some really, really good things about Sanchez.

I definitely feel worried about drafting a one-year starter at any position, let alone QB, but people are raving over Sanchez right now.


and yes, I KNOW OT should be the pick, I'm not an idiot. I'd take OT, LB, DT, DE, maybe even WR or RB before QB, cause JC is not THE main reason for our problems. But if Sanchez was the pick and we didn't move up to get him, I think I could live with it. Wouldn't like it, wouldn't hate it.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 15, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Sanchez is the same as with Cutler: Its not that either is bad but what we would have to give up to get him would set the team back quite a bit by sacrificing improving other positions for another year or two.

Posted by: will_ga | April 15, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I swear the Spaghetti Gang deliberately makes things too complicated.

Manage the cap? Check
Make complex deals for draft picks? Check
Mess with your QB? Check Check Check and Check
Mess with your HC? Check Check Check and Check
Create bizarre contracts? Check

Back to basics. What does this team need? It needs OL, DE and LB. So quit mucking around spending time on Sanchez. Especially you Vinny. Because if you draft Sanchez, it'll be your last #1 pick. Ever

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 15, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm trying to think of another QB that would be harder to root for than if we traded for brady @$%^ quinn. Help me out...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Jeff George has been rumored to be on his way for a workout.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 15, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse
Best response so far. It would be hard to root for a prick like JG. Others???

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

"Champ will have to get back to playing shape before talk of getting into the Hall. he hasn't had but 1 good season since he left us...

Posted by: Hail2theChief "


lol Champ is the best corner to ever play the game

hence his name "Champ"

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 15, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

hey any UFC fans on here? If so, you gonna check out the new game on 5/19? I've reserved it and looking for some competition...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

so many terrible qb's for so long, so many bad memories probably peaking w/ danny wuerfull, it took us 15 yrs, minus a little brad johnson, to find a competent qb w/ all the skills and all the potential....now that we have him, the fo is trying everything in their power to get rid of him, why why why?

i am not saying that campbell is our savior or that he will take us back to the promise land, but for this yr he has got to be our guy. he has progressed every year w/ the Skins. what ever happened to staying the course and building a team?

if we can have a solid o-line this yr and our receivers progress, then there is no reason to believe that campbell won't get the job done.

if we have a solid o-line and our receivers r doing their job and campbell f--cks up, then we say that's it, we gave u every opportunity to succeed and it didnt happen

if we get that o-line to block and those receivers to catch and since campbell has progressed every year i dont see why we can't seriously contend ...I know we still have a hell of a lot of work to do, but there's another member of the organization i believe in JIM ZORN LET'S GET 'ER DUN


Posted by: retroskins14 | April 15, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

"Champ will have to get back to playing shape before talk of getting into the Hall. he hasn't had but 1 good season since he left us...

Posted by: Hail2theChief "


lol Champ is the best corner to ever play the game

hence his name "Champ"

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 15, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

hey Truth champ is damn good but the best ever? No. pains me to say it but Prime Time is the best ever. He changed defenses, not quite the way LT did but he allowed for bump and run, man to man press coverage. Champ just came along for the ride...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE GOD NO!!!!!!

Posted by: Salinas1 | April 15, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

perriculum,

no, guilt by association is what Jasno does. I expect more from you, my friend.

And Yoder, Swedish chicks are hot, but Icelandic chicks... well, you know.

Posted by: LarryBud | April 15, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

This will go on until draft day, it is so stupid and the number one idiot on here is driving the discussion.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 15, 2009

Wow Flounder are you driving this discussion? Since JLaC and Cindy blogged that Sanchez is the one, I thought they were? So you are the one eh?

Well, I suppose floundering is a way to describe it now isn't it? ~smiles~

Posted by: periculum | April 15, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

hey Truth champ is damn good but the best ever? No. pains me to say it but Prime Time is the best ever. He changed defenses, not quite the way LT did but he allowed for bump and run, man to man press coverage. Champ just came along for the ride...

Posted by: Hail2theChief

dude,

Darell Green? Rod Woodson, maybe? Tom's brother, Merton Hanks?

Posted by: LarryBud | April 15, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I think we should trade for Jamarcus Russell

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Beep beep

Posted by: talent_evaluator | April 15, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

the short analysis is simple. The Skins have invested more on the defense and are better on that side of the ball. All the recent top 10 draft picks were on defense and most of the big signings have been on defense (Hall, J Taylor, Albert, Fletcher).

From 2004-2007, the ONLY draft pick on offense taken in either round 1 or 2 was Jason Campbell. So we have holes on offense. The idea that its a QB problem is absurd.

Management invested on defense. It has kept largely the same schemes. The result? A good defense

Management didn't invest nearly as much on offense (plus some of those investments were pretty mediocre). On top of that, the team has switched offensive schemes along the way. So the team struggles with the ball.

A QB change doesn't solve the core problem. Why? Because the QB isn't the problem

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 15, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

hey Truth champ is damn good but the best ever? No. pains me to say it but Prime Time is the best ever. He changed defenses, not quite the way LT did but he allowed for bump and run, man to man press coverage. Champ just came along for the ride...

Posted by: Hail2theChief

dude,

Darell Green? Rod Woodson, maybe? Tom's brother, Merton Hanks?

Posted by: LarryBud | April 15, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

No disrespect to Mr. Green but he was great but not in the conversation for best ever. Maybe the best to ever play 20 years. Fast as lightning but #21 was much bigger and still right on his tail. Woodson was another excellent talent but kept his career going by converting to Safety. I'm talking bout straight cover corner. Don't throw to his side of the field and the best ever was Deion Sanders, Prime Time, Neon Deion what ever you want to call him he was the best EVA

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

periculum,

no, guilt by association is what Jasno does. I expect more from you, my friend.

Circumstantial evidence is extremely strong Larry ...

1. Kiper picks five receivers in 2008 to top his list. The Redskins pick 3 out of 5.
2. Of the major mock drafts, Kiper's mock draft is the only one that has the Skins selecting Sanchez. All of his peers and contemporaries consider it craziness.
3. No one thought Snyder would be crazy enough to mortgage the future for Cutler. He almost did.

Very strong circumstantial evidence from where I am sitting.

Even the clowns who are sitting back "enjoying the comedy" know that Snyder is the out-of-control train wreck waiting to happen. As does every NFL expert prognosticator.

Now its a matter of sitting back and waiting for the that last shoe to fall.

Posted by: periculum | April 15, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

larrybud: "hey Truth champ is damn good but the best ever? No. pains me to say it but Prime Time is the best ever. He changed defenses, not quite the way LT did but he allowed for bump and run, man to man press coverage"

Or you could turn that around and say that changing defenses created Prime Time. There was a time, and you probably remember if you try, when Deion would have been just another fast guy who didn't like physical contact. He'd have wound up at WR without even a sniff of the defensive backfield. That's back when guys like Emmitt Thomas, Mike Haynes, and Mel Blount were prototype cornerbacks. Champ Bailey is closer to those guys, but still some distance away. Ronnie Lott was someone who played CB and S in that era, and excelled at both.

You recall when they used to draft players entirely for speed? The idea was to figure out where to play them later. Nobody really thought of putting a world-class sprinter at a position other than WR or in rare cases, RB. Darrell Green changed that. He was the really fast guy who could tackle.

I don't know if we'll see another player on the defensive side who's as fast as Green -- not in terms of stopwatch time, but relative to other players of his era. Players are a lot faster now, which narrows the gap between LBs and Safeties and CBs. We see blitzing 240 pounders who are faster (at least running forward) than the guys behind them.

Green was the real revolutionary.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 15, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

HEY SNYDER IF YOUR READING THIS
DON"T DRAFT SANCHEZ !!

DRAFT ME !

Posted by: slipperyrichard | April 15, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Dear Samson- No offense intended but your are seeing this through burgundy colored glasses. Green was a great player and from all accounts a better person which is very commendable but on the field step for step or route for route Sanders takes him. Darrell was a fast as he was because of his size. deion was just as fast despite his size. Speed a side Deion was the better athlete. look at the punt returns, int returns not to mention the fact the cat played MLB. come on dawg be rational

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Hail2theChief,

We could argue all day who the better corner was. However, one thing isn't arguable. Deion never ran the 40 in the same time as Darrell. Darrell in his youth had world class speed.

Posted by: blackandred777 | April 15, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

The fact that this ''fact'' or ''rumor'' of the Skins being interested in Sanchez when our O, and D lines are screaming for upgrades and depth just shows how dumb, stupid, and incompetent our owner and FO is. No wonder we don't do jack year in and year out, and we are one of the biggest laughingstocks in the NFL, next to Oakland and Detroit. WE'RE RIGHT THERE!

Posted by: 72Redskins | April 15, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

being the fastest never made anyone the best football player. Ask James Jett, he won olympic gold and dropped balls on the regular for the Raiders...

The discussion started between Deion and Champ. Green was brought in later and IMO simply doesn't compare to either.

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Looks like malcolm is getting ready to! hopefully he and DT are ready to go at full speed for our opener against the g-men

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 15, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey JLC, do you come up with this crap? You should change the name from RedskinsInsider to RedskinsGossip because that's all this amounts to......but then again that's all you are pretty much good for; occasionaly a good laugh.

Posted by: alwaysaskinsfan | April 15, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"Fu*k you Snyder. How you got to be so rich while being so stupid never ceases to amaze me."

You can try stop going to the home games, stop buying Redskin merchandises, and start urinating on his pristine lawn. Hell, give him a wiz if he comes out to complain, since he is just about the same level!

Posted by: JohnWWW | April 15, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

This can't be a suprise can it? After reading many good reasons not to go after Sanchez, and one or two in favor of drafting him, I think that we may end up with him and possibly deal Soup in the process. Whoever is QB next year, they will be part of the FedEx turf unless the aging Offensive line is fixed.

Going with the theme put forth earlier, Li'l Dan will go with who will sell the most jerseys so look for Sanchez and possibly a move for Braylon Edwards.

Posted by: splitbill | April 15, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

The only way getting Sanchez would make sense is if all of the following events occur on Draft Day.

1. Sanchez slips and is there at #13. Trading up is stupid.
2. The Skins can unload Jason Campbell for a second round pick this year. Sanchez and Campbell cannot both be on the roster.
3. The Skins use that second round pick to grab the best available player at the three positions where they need the most help: OT, OLB, DE.
4. They use the third round pick on best available at whatever of the two positions they did not select in round 2.

If Sanchez is gone, the ideal thing would be to trade down with someone like the Pats (#23 pick). Get their #1 and one of their extra #2 picks in exchange for moving down. Let the Pats pick up the stud DE or LB they really want that won't be there at #23.

Posted by: dlenehan | April 15, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Dear Somali Pirates,

Come and get these two jackasses.Thing #1,
and Thing #2. Danny "no brains Synder" and his stupid imp Vinny "I don't know what the hell I'm doing" Cerrato.COME GET THEM, YOU HEAR ME!!!

Posted by: joe12341 | April 15, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

so much for making other gm's think we want Sanchez. I guess 1 in 10 fans thinks like snyd-rrato

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 15, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

how good was deion when he was 40 years old?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 15, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

I am skipping the " draft party " cause I think I would loose total control if the diminutive one holds his breath long enough to force his yes man to move up to take his next party buddy.

Posted by: roscoe7 | April 16, 2009 7:14 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if he seriously thinks he's going to "show us all" and end up with a dominant team?

You don't draft linemen, your team will suck. One of the few certainties in the NFL.

Get rid of JC, alienate the locker room, we'll then underachieve on an entirely new level.

Posted by: Redskinnerton | April 16, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Im all for having a franchise QB something we sorely need. Any team who does anything in the L has one. (once every blue moon you can get by with a Tony Banks/Trent Dilfer combo) I'd be for getting Sanchez if we had a full complement of draft picks to address other needs.

Posted by: fullonfully | April 16, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

This would be a stupid move, which is exactly why Snyder will do it. He doesn't care about winning. Every offseason is like Christmas Morning, so excitement drives sales in tickets, advertising, and merchandise. If the skins go to the playoffs or have a winning season that's secondary to the Belt-Buckle Kid milking his private diary cow. This time of year is Christmas Morning, and the actual season becomes April Fools Day, but the jokes on us the fan. What's the life-expectancy on petulent billionaires?

Posted by: migraine_boy98 | April 17, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

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