Barnes Happy to Be Staying at Home

Maryland cornerback Kevin Barnes, the Redskins' 80th pick overall (third round), just finished a conference call with reporters.

He played high school football locally at Old Mill and lives in Glen Burnie, Md. Barnes may have gone higher had a shoulder injury not caused him to miss six games as a senior. He came across as a bright confident, young man, and had a very impressive score of 41 on the Wonderlic test given to all prospects.

Barnes said he is thrilled to be able to stay local as a pro, and was surprised the Redskins grabbed him with their first pick of the second day of the draft.

"I was pretty much speechless," Barnes said. "I really wasn't expecting them to pick me. I hadn't really talked to them too much in the process."

Barnes, however, was very well schooled on Washington's needs at corner and its depth chart. He shares an agent (Todd France) with Skins starter Carlos Rogers and tries to keep tabs on the corner mix with all NFL teams. Rogers and DeAngelo Hall are set as the starters for 2009, but there is much uncertainty beyond that.

"I know they re-signed DeAngleo, and I know Carlos is on the last year of his deal, and [Fred] Smoot, he's getting a little bit older, and I'm ready to get in there and compete and make an impact."

Barnes did not mention second-year corner Justin Tryon, whom Washington selected in the fourth round last year (he was the first defensive player they chose). Tryon's small size works against him and he had a very difficult transition to the NFL game, so Barnes could come in and try to compete for the nickel spot. The Redskins face what could be a complicated negotiation with Rogers after giving Hall $23 million guaranteed, so quality depth at corner will be important.

"I feel like I can compete with anybody," Barnes said. "I'm a big corner, but I also move like a smaller guy."

Barnes fractured his shoulder making a tackle last season - his hit caused a fumble - which probably hurt his draft stock some (that turned out to be his final college appearance). A small pin was surgically placed in the shoulder, but he said numerous medical teams checked him and the procedure will not limit him.

"It was my last hit [as a Terp]," Barnes said. "Even though I got hurt, it caused a guy to fumble. I've got to look at it that way. I still have smile on my face."

Rogers said he actually grew up in North Carolina in a family that rooted for the Cowboys, but as he got older he began following individual players more than teams and is ecstatic to be a Redskin now.

"How ironic that I would go to Redskins today, but I love to be a Redskin," Barnes said.

By Jason La Canfora  |  April 26, 2009; 12:20 PM ET
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From the NYT:
"A torn labrum in the shoulder of Andrew Gardner, a 6-foot-7 offensive tackle from Georgia Tech, should no longer be a particular issue. And the meniscus problem in the knee of Cincinnati’s Mike Mickens has not kept him from being a promising defensive back.

But analysis published in the April issue of The American Journal of Sports Medicine indicates that these players and dozens more may be riskier draft picks than most realize. The study, co-written by medical personnel from two N.F.L. teams, found that certain injury histories among players at certain positions — however healed — probably hamper their ability to play in the N.F.L. ...

The doctors asserted that the relationships were strong enough for teams to consider them when making draft picks."

McIntosh - 2007; Kelly - 2008; Barnes - 2009.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 26, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

2nd

Posted by: jiza32 | April 26, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

From RI: ""It was my last hit [as a Terp]," Barnes said. "Even though I got hurt, it caused a guy to fumble. I've got to look at it that way. I still have smile on my face."

Rogers said he actually grew up in North Carolina in a family that rooted for the Cowboys, but as he got older he began following individual players more than teams and is ecstatic to be a Redskin now.

"How ironic that I would go to Redskins today, but I love to be a Redskin," Barnes said."

"rooted for the Cowboys" = Bad.
"Rogers said he" Rogers ??? = Doubly bad.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 26, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I think DC just traded all the rest of this years picks for a long snapper; thus addressing the O line issue once and for all.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-ricigcartoons-pg,0,6298773.photogallery

Posted by: Realness1 | April 26, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

we've got a ton of youth mixed with some vets on defense

Posted by: rickyroge | April 26, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Zorn just on ESPN giving the BS political comment and JC.

Posted by: rich20ssu | April 26, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Canfield
Lang
Robinson
Lang

its not that hard

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 26, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I guess the strategy is to play defense on every down...seriously.

We signed Hunter Smith so we are gonna punt it away everytime we get the ball and just keep our D out on the field...

Posted by: p1funk | April 26, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

i say the skins go get robert francois...the OLB from BC and finalize the D...at that point, theres really no position on the D that needs to be filled

unless duke robinson is sitting there in the fifth round...i dont see how the skins pass him up

JMO...what do u guys think

Posted by: AhsanFamily | April 26, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Skins D could beast out this year....hope we can win 10/11 7-6 games!

Posted by: chrislarry | April 26, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, "fixing" a top-six defense (or whatever it was statistically) should definitely have been our priority this offseason, not addressing the O line... well, aside from bringing back Derrick Dockery to replace the tough old man who was probably our best O lineman last season.

Yippee.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 26, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

From ESPN: "The one thing we are really impressed with is Barnes' ability to track and play the ball. ..."

From RI post:

NEGATIVES: ... Prone to losing the ball in the air on occasion.

Posted by: damone1972 | April 26, 2009 11:10 AM

???

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 26, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

McIntosh - 2007; Kelly - 2008; Orapko - 2009; Barnes - 2009
Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 26, 2009

Posted by: lerici | April 26, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Supposedly, the rap on Duke Robinson is poor pass blocking.

Jonathan Luigs to the Bengals is good value for them.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 26, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

O-line was without a doubt our biggest area of struggle/need last season. Guys wore down and got injured. Right tackle spot was a mess all season long and got even messier after Chris Samuels went down.

After our presumed starting 5 (Samuels, Dock, Rab, Thomas, Jans) tell me how comfortable you are going into the season with the following depth?

Mike Williams, Stephon Heyer, Will Montgomery, Devin Clark, Isaiah Ross, D'Anthony Batiste, Ruben Riley, Chad Rhinehart.

Posted by: p1funk | April 26, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

At least they are not stubbornly sticking to the notion that Tryon can be a player, I guess. I think any OL selected from this point on is unlikely to be an upgrade to Heyer, considering he is already experienced in the NFL and with the offense.

Posted by: amcg | April 26, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

when do they pick again?

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 26, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Good point Nate. I got to think they will bring back Kendall. We can't count on Randy Thomas to play 16 games anymore. Kendall wasn't special but a fairly consistent guy. The right side of the line was the weak spot no doubt. We still have no replacement for Rabach who may be fading, no real backup for a declining Thomas and a question mark at RT unless Heyer steps up.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | April 26, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Do we have all of our draft picks for next year or have we already screwed the pooch?

Posted by: hokiesmokie | April 26, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

i like this pick...can never have enough cornerbacks, especially in a man-oriented defense...from his interviews he seems intellgent asl well, might be able to contribute right away if he can pick up the system quick

Posted by: altarkenton | April 26, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

they have to wait to pick 150! unreal how they don't manage things better.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | April 26, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Meredith is still there. Trade our 4th next year and 6th this year to get him.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 26, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

i like this pick...can never have enough cornerbacks, especially in a man-oriented defense...from his interviews he seems intellgent asl well, might be able to contribute right away if he can pick up the system quick

Posted by: altarkenton ****

yeah, and if he could block on the O-line, he'd give mister-slow-motion delivery more time! Should have added beef to the line. Great teams build from the lines out, not the other way around.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | April 26, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Can he block? Though I think this is a pick to replace Tryon who, IMO, couldn't cover anyone at the NFL level.

They need to get some OL depth now and I'll feel a little better about this draft.

Posted by: HollywoodPlayboy | April 26, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Is Lawrence Sidbury (Richmond) still out there?

Posted by: Realness1 | April 26, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

There were a few head scratchers, the biggest one being the Jets getting the San man for a song (a 2 pick and spare parts) after the pub about all the teams that were hot to trot on this dude. Another puzzler was the Ravens going for Oher at 23. Puzzler because (a) they already had 2 good OTs, (b) Oher fell so far, (c) the Ravens needed WRs for Flacco and Britt was available and (d) Newsome is supposed to know what he is doing.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 26, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Meredith is still there. Trade our 4th next year and 6th this year to get him.

Posted by: Rypien11 **
did you watch any gamecocks games this year?
The O-line was not good. He's not been drafted for a reason.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | April 26, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

experts saying this is a weak draft in the later rounds...should take best player available then

Posted by: altarkenton | April 26, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"Zorn just on ESPN giving the BS political comment and JC.

Posted by: rich20ssu"

What did you expect him to say? "Snyder fell in love with Cutler & Sanchez, but actually showed some restraint in negotiations, leaving JC out to dry." I think Zorn likes having a job, and so would you.

Posted by: wisdom80 | April 26, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

and (d) Newsome is supposed to know what he is doing.

Posted by: AntonChigurh *****

Again, good and great teams build from the lines out. Not the other way around.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | April 26, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

If your afraid of your job. You're going to do a poor job, a good coach stands up and speaks his mind. let the owner buy and sell and let the coach...coach.....bottom line.........

Posted by: BingCreole | April 26, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"Zorn just on ESPN giving the BS political comment and JC.

Posted by: rich20ssu" ******

He also said his area needing the most improvement is in recognition and delivery of the ball, "Letting it go" I think he said.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | April 26, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

There were a few head scratchers, the biggest one being the Jets getting the San man for a song (a 2 pick and spare parts) after the pub about all the teams that were hot to trot on this dude. Another puzzler was the Ravens going for Oher at 23. Puzzler because (a) they already had 2 good OTs, (b) Oher fell so far, (c) the Ravens needed WRs for Flacco and Britt was available and (d) Newsome is supposed to know what he is doing.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 26, 2009 1:03 PM
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So that leaves two alternatives: 1) Oher is a bad pick, or 2) Newsome doesn't know what he's doing (at least with respect to the Raven's first round pick yesterday).

My opinion: Oher was a good pick.

IMHO: The reason Oher fell so far is the Jets' trade plus the usual Al Davis insanity (picking DHB before Crabtree???) led to chaos in the top half of the 1st round.

Also, these two picks:

11.) Buffalo - DE Aaron Maybin, Penn St.
12.) Denver - RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia

were surprising, given who was still on the boards.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 26, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

thoughts on Gerald Cadogan...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 26, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Is this team (on paper) better than was last year?

yes

Posted by: rickyroge | April 26, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I know Kevin personally and he is a very solid football player and will add depth. Whatever lineman we would have drafted at 80 wouldn't have started this year so why not take the best player on our board?

Posted by: ballplaya4034 | April 26, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Again, good and great teams build from the lines out. Not the other way around.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | April 26, 2009 1:06 PM |

This cliche is also very popular, dude. "You can't win in the NFL unless you have a good QB." The Falcons drafted Matt Ryan at 3 in 2008 and assembled their OL from spare parts, went from losers to winners. Conclusion - there is a cliche for every point of view.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 26, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

"

Yeah, "fixing" a top-six defense (or whatever it was statistically) should definitely have been our priority this offseason, not addressing the O line... well, aside from bringing back Derrick Dockery to replace the tough old man who was probably our best O lineman last season.

Yippee.

Posted by: NateinthePDX"

I don't wanna defend the pick(s), but what would you rather us do? Duke is still available right now and could be there in the 5th for all we know.

We lost Shawn Springs at corner and Marcus Washington at LB, along with Jason Taylor at DE never panning out. Those are all needs.

Guard, Center, and RT are also needs, but we've got our guard, and it looks like we could get another guard or maybe OT Jamon Meredith from USC in the 5th. There has been some quality dropping to the later roudns. Don't give up hope just yet.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 26, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

How can anyone blame some young kid out of Carolina to like any team besides the Redskins. Root for Deion Sanders or any of the non descript losers we had since the last Superbowl. Which was almost two decade ago. I have a hard time being a fan after all this Sanchez/Cutler debacle. The days of D. Green, Monk, Coleman are long gone. A kid out of college doesn't know D Green 28 and they barley know 21 Deion...Sad,,but true

Posted by: dmlopez1 | April 26, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Is this team (on paper) better than was last year?

yes

Posted by: rickyroge | April 26, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Agreed! In particular, if the offensive players stay healthy.

Posted by: siris | April 26, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I think DC just traded all the rest of this years picks for a long snapper; thus addressing the O line issue once and for all.

Posted by: Realness1 | April 26, 2009 12:30 PM

If they go local as they did with Barnes then the Skins can say that they got a snapping turtle in the draft.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 26, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

The Skins gave up two third round picks to get a coach they only kept for a year:
http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/sports-shorts-0
They also gave up two mid-round picks for TJ Duckett and a second rounder for Jason Taylor. There are lots more of these examples (when the Skins traded Bailey for Portis, why did they have to throw in a second rounder?).

Would love to see the Skins start building from the draft, and maybe collecting picks rather than giving them away. And then maybe they will draft wisely. Hey, it could happen!

Posted by: EdDC | April 26, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

This cliche is also very popular, dude. "You can't win in the NFL unless you have a good QB." The Falcons drafted Matt Ryan at 3 in 2008 *****

You make my point for me about JC in your own statement. You have to have a good QB. Still, the line's win the games. I don't think it's a cliche, and evidently teams much better than ours believe it too. I pull for the Skins, and probably always will, but I refuse to wear the same rose-colored lenses many on here do. Especially after the past few dismal years under DS and VC.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | April 26, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Is this team (on paper) better than was last year?

yes

Posted by: rickyroge | April 26, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Agreed! In particular, if the offensive players stay healthy.

Posted by: siris | April 26, 2009 1:22 PM | ==========================================
Luckily, the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles had no draft picks, so they're all the same.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 26, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

To all you sheep crying about OL-- Heyer will take the right tackle spot and play just fine like he did when Jansen broke his ankle. They needed a slot corner and tryon will never make it through camp.. so let it be done.. also whoever said last years draft was a complete wash except for horton is a complete idiot. Plenty, plenty of all time great players had a weak if not horrible rookie season. the problem is fans see one rookie having a career year and automatically every rookie on our team is a wash, granted they were very disappointing but I think with the exception of tryon and rheinhart. they will show up this year. Actually Kareem Moore played some pretty good football down the stretch last year

Posted by: skinztattoo89 | April 26, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

We can't count on Randy Thomas to play 16 games anymore. Kendall wasn't special but a fairly consistent guy. The right side of the line was the weak spot no doubt. We still have no replacement for Rabach who may be fading, no real backup for a declining Thomas and a question mark at RT unless Heyer steps up.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | April 26, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

We can't count on Samuels playing 16 games (when was the last time he did that?)

Heyer didn't hold up for 16 games. (He didn't even hold up for 2!).

Jansen can maybe stand there like a lightpost for 16 games when he's not suffering season-ending injuries.

Rabach and Dock are maybe our best bets to go 16 games.

And so I ask again - How comfortable are we feeling about our O-line?

Maybe 1 of our 6 cornerbacks can help block.

Or maybe one of our 7 DEs can help block on the line.

Or maybe we will just go ahead and play defense all game long and punt the ball away on first down whenever we get it.

Posted by: p1funk | April 26, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Mike Tomlin - "...We're not seduced by somebody else's talent..."

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | April 26, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

skinztattoo89 = The voice of reason.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 26, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

To all you sheep crying about OL-- Heyer will take the right tackle spot and play just fine like he did when Jansen broke his ankle.

Posted by: skinztattoo89 | April 26, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Have you been paying attention? Heyer lasted 1-2 games last season before HE got injured and had to get replaced by Jansen (and then couldn't win bakc the spot).

They've said that they don't view Heyer as a starter in this league - only a backup.

They had so little faith in the potential of Rhinehart that he didn't even get ACTIVATED for games.

Hello!!

Posted by: p1funk | April 26, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"Zorn just on ESPN giving the BS political comment and JC.

Posted by: rich20ssu"

What did you expect him to say? "Snyder fell in love with Cutler & Sanchez, but actually showed some restraint in negotiations, leaving JC out to dry." I think Zorn likes having a job, and so would you.

Posted by: wisdom80 | April 26, 2009 1:05 PM

Don't know what Zorn said on ESPN but he could have said something like "We never had any intention of acquiring Sanchez but we suckered the Jets into trading up and using the Brown's pick on him instead of Orakpo, thus allowing Orakpo to drop in our lap." Various ways to spin it so everyone saves face.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 26, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Everyone needs to stop complaining about putting "beef" on the offensive line. You can't just draft these 300lb linemen and put them on the line bc Mcshay and Kiper have them rated that high. Look what happened to Rhinehart last yr. If you are gonna spend on a player, get someone decent. I dont know if you guys realize this, but if Meredith and Robinson were so valuable, why are they still on the board in the middle of the 4th round. NE, supposedly great drafters, drafted some OG from penn state that I have never heard of. It's easy to always second guess. Last yr everyone was screaming for us to take one of those defensive ends. Did they pan out? Not really. Look for Devin Thomas to play rather well this year and show that he was not such a big bust. People need to chill out, no one ever hits on every draft pick. If we can get 2-3 solid players, this is a good draft.

Posted by: bstroma1 | April 26, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Have you been paying attention? Heyer lasted 1-2 games last season before HE got injured and had to get replaced by Jansen (and then couldn't win bakc the spot).

They've said that they don't view Heyer as a starter in this league - only a backup.

They had so little faith in the potential of Rhinehart that he didn't even get ACTIVATED for games.

Hello!!

Posted by: p1funk | April 26, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Hello!!!!! there was not gonna be any winning that job back he was being punished for an unneccesary roughness penalty that cost Devin thomas a touchdown and again the season before he played very solid at the RT position

Posted by: skinztattoo89 | April 26, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

And so I ask again - How comfortable are we feeling about our O-line?

Maybe 1 of our 6 cornerbacks can help block.

Or maybe one of our 7 DEs can help block on the line.

Or maybe we will just go ahead and play defense all game long and punt the ball away on first down whenever we get it.

Posted by: p1funk | April 26, 2009 1:35 PM
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You don't seem to understand the counter-argument, Mr. p1funk.

It takes two (2) years for an offensive linemen to become a starter.

Therefore, you should never draft one.

Our O.L. is fine, and we should just hope they'll remain injury free, and in 2012, we'll be starting:

²RT Jon Jansen (age 33)
RG Randy Thomas (age 33)
C Casey Rabach (turns 32 two weeks later)
LG Pete Kendell (age 36)
LT Chris Samuels (age 32)
(Age as of the 1st week of play in 2009, so add 3 years.)

~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 26, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

If the Skins drafted OL, then how could they blame Jason Campbell for their woes?

Posted by: EdDC | April 26, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

On paper, we may be better than last year, but so is everyone else in the NFC East, maybe a lot better. Philly just added two playmakers in Maclin and McCoy, not to mention O-Line help and DB depth via trade. The Giants already have a dominant O-Line yet they even picked up a RT to develop and added two WRs, a RB to replace D Ward and a LB (the only place they were weak on the defensive side of the ball). Talent-wise, on paper Dallas has us beat. If we don't pick up an OL somewhere today, this will be another draft filled with sexy toys for the Snyder-Cerrato demolition crew... dismantling our Redskins since 1999.

Posted by: noltondavis1330 | April 26, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Again, Skins don't address what they need the most.

But, I would've taken Victor (Macho) Harris instead.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 26, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

C'mon people...

you can't rebuild an entire team with 4 picks...

but I'm sure all you GM's could.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 26, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Kropoq is gone.

Posted by: lerici | April 26, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

I love Cooley, but Davis is faster and younger. Maybe trade Cooley and Randle El for a quality strongside linebacker and a another tall receiver/or defensive end. Randle El's good, but not good enough to put us over the top. Moss needs someone to take the double teams away because he can fry anyone.

Why not bring in Mike Vick to return punts, kick offs and a few wildcat trick plays. Overpay him too, why not, Snyder's filthy rich and Vick needs it to get out of the hole.

The key to the season is D. Thomas and M. Kelly's contributions to the offense. No doubt!

Posted by: rseetreydeuce | April 26, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Hello!!!!! there was not gonna be any winning that job back he was being punished for an unneccesary roughness penalty that cost Devin thomas a touchdown and again the season before he played very solid at the RT position

Posted by: skinztattoo89 | April 26, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

?!?!?! What are you? One of the Skins line coaches? Is that what Zorn told you over beers or something?

That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard!

They denied him a starting spot all season to "punish" him for an unnecessary roughness call that did NOT even end up costing us a game? Even though he is a BETTER right tackle?

Posted by: p1funk | April 26, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Counter point to you 'ifthethunderdontgetya' is that 1) even though it may take a year or two for a OL to develop, they last for 10-15 years. And getting one now helps us out for the future, not just a band-aid for tomorrow. 2) The other piece is that our O-Line hasn't been healthy for an entire season YET. So 3 years projection is a pipe-dream. 3) Rhinehart didn't see the field last year but he was the only OL that we picked. The more you pick, the better chance you have a landing one that will see the field because their skillsets translate to the NFL easier than a WR, TE or tweener LB/DE.

Posted by: noltondavis1330 | April 26, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Again, Skins don't address what they need the most.

But, I would've taken Victor (Macho) Harris instead.

Posted by: rachel216 ****

Macho is too slow and will be exposed at the next level, IMO.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | April 26, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Our O.L. is fine, and we should just hope they'll remain injury free, and in 2012, we'll be starting:

²RT Jon Jansen (age 33)
RG Randy Thomas (age 33)
C Casey Rabach (turns 32 two weeks later)
LG Pete Kendell (age 36)
LT Chris Samuels (age 32)
(Age as of the 1st week of play in 2009, so add 3 years.)

~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 26, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse


Right. And in 2012, it will be the QB's fault again...

Posted by: p1funk | April 26, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

but I'm sure all you GM's could.
Posted by: rickyroge | April 26, 2009

So GM Ricky Roge would rebuild a defense that finished 4th in the NFL, choose two players for it that could very likely end up as situational players only.

Meanwhile, his offensive line, the oldest in the NFL, with almost every starter suffering injuries, 2 career threatening ... he does nothing, nothing, ignores the problem hoping it will go away.
Puts his head in the sand. Oh, and while he's at it he shove a shiv in the heart of his starting QB. His lone backup has not taken an NFL snap. If the backup plays it would be behind this line.

Really smart doooood. We should hire you!

Posted by: lerici | April 26, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Dear knuckleheads,

In the 3rd round of the NFL draft you do not draft for need. It is imperative at that point that you draft the best player available. Very successful teams have been using that strategy for decades because it works. Drafting for need in the mid to late rounds is for teams that want to stay mediocre. I'm not saying Barnes will work out but if he was the best player on their board then they did the right thing.

Posted by: croftonpost | April 26, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Sidbury is still on the board. Might as well pick him he might actually start and not just be situational.

Posted by: lerici | April 26, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

only 11 more picks and the FO gets to prove their mettle once again! I can't wait.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | April 26, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Well it looks like many of us overrated Duke Robinson. I still want him if he is there whenever the hell we pick again. Center for Penn State still on the board. Meredith too.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | April 26, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Late rounds is for teams that want to stay mediocre. I'm not saying Barnes will work out but if he was the best player on their board then they did the right thing.

Posted by: croftonpost | April 26, 2009

Gee Moron I keep looking over at what real experts at the draft, the Giants and Eagles are doing. The Giants already have 2 starters to replace Burress in Nicks and Barden. Barden is going to surprise a lot of people. The Giants selected an OT the Redskins really desperately needed! Go MOW THE LAWN KID YOU'RE AN IDIOT!

Posted by: lerici | April 26, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

The Giants have 6 picks in the fifth round. Do you really think they will pass up these guys?

Posted by: lerici | April 26, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Another OT off the board.

Posted by: lerici | April 26, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Sidbury went at 125 to Atlanta.

Posted by: PatM1 | April 26, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

There are some that will NEVER give the SKINS credit for anything...if you think the Eagles and Giants are that much better, then don't funk up our blog!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 26, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Is that fat guy from LSU, OG Herman Munster still available? Guy was he biggest baby in the history of Louisiana liierally--weighed about 40 pounds at birth), but lost something like thirty pounds when he worked out.

Sounds like he's worth a fifth rounder to me.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

croftenpost,

The Skins said they picked the best players available when they drafted receivers for the first three picks last year. We all know they were not exactly "need" but at least Danny's "want" picks.

Still, I like the Barnes pick. He will prove useful.

Posted by: EdDC | April 26, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

HO HUM 5-11 looks way too optimistic at this point.

Posted by: lerici | April 26, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Jansen and Kendall are done. The starters should be:

Stephon Heyer
Chris Samuels
Derrick Dockery
Mike Williams
Casey Rabach

Our O line lost us at least 2 games and caused Campbell the ridicule he's getting.

Campbell will go the Pro Bowl this year then leave the team leaving the front office with pie in their face!

Campbell can't prosper when he's learning a new system every year. Who can grow under unstable conditions?

Posted by: rseetreydeuce | April 26, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

There are some that will NEVER give the SKINS credit for anything...if you think the Eagles and Giants are that much better, then don't funk up our blog!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 26, 2009

Its not YOUR BLOG numbnuts, do something useful ... stop with the nonsensical defense of Snyder who does not know how to pick talent. Reid and the Giants braintrust actually do! Go spank the monkey

Posted by: lerici | April 26, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Counter point to you 'ifthethunderdontgetya' is that 1) even though it may take a year or two for a OL to develop, they last for 10-15 years. And getting one now helps us out for the future, not just a band-aid for tomorrow. 2) The other piece is that our O-Line hasn't been healthy for an entire season YET. So 3 years projection is a pipe-dream. 3) Rhinehart didn't see the field last year but he was the only OL that we picked. The more you pick, the better chance you have a landing one that will see the field because their skillsets translate to the NFL easier than a WR, TE or tweener LB/DE.

Posted by: noltondavis1330 | April 26, 2009 2:00 PM
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It saddens me to have to type this, nolton.

I was being sarcastic.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 26, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Is that fat guy from LSU, OG Herman Munster still available? Guy was he biggest baby in the history of Louisiana liierally--weighed about 40 pounds at birth), but lost something like thirty pounds when he worked out.

Sounds like he's worth a fifth rounder to me.

Posted by: TheCork


Now you're talkin'..This might appeal to Nero Barnum's sense of show bidness

Posted by: frak | April 26, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

when do they pick again?

Posted by: BeantownGreg

Tuesday. Set your TiVO

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

was being sarcastic.
Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 26, 2009

Another rookie thunder ... yes we knew you were being sarcastic. But then we get accused of negativity ... but I absolutely can't wait for the season to start, the losses when these morons will again come out of the rafters to complain bitterly ... and oh I do hope Colt is their target this time!

Posted by: lerici | April 26, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

What do ya'll think about trading a 5th or 6th round pick to get Michael Vick? I'm not saying I'm for it but I just want to start up a new conversation. They were just talking about the Falcons think someone will trade for him in the later rounds.

Posted by: DemBakerBoyz | April 26, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Vick is Snidely's kind of guy. Why not make the circus even wilder?

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

There are some that will NEVER give the SKINS credit for anything...if you think the Eagles and Giants are that much better, then don't funk up our blog!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 26, 2009

Its not YOUR BLOG numbnuts, do something useful ... stop with the nonsensical defense of Snyder who does not know how to pick talent. Reid and the Giants braintrust actually do! Go spank the monkey

Posted by: lerici

TESTY exchanges like these help wile away the hours waiting for the Redskins to blow their next pick.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

So where the new blurb about possible picks. Anyways... Got to go T, G, and C here if for any other reason to stop these naysayer supposed fans on this blog.

Posted by: krichardson7777 | April 26, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Dear knuckleheads,

In the 3rd round of the NFL draft you do not draft for need. It is imperative at that point that you draft the best player available. Very successful teams have been using that strategy for decades because it works. Drafting for need in the mid to late rounds is for teams that want to stay mediocre. I'm not saying Barnes will work out but if he was the best player on their board then they did the right thing.

Posted by: croftonpost | April 26, 2009 2:02 PM
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Dear Dumbass,

You are perfectly correct...in opposite-land.

Teams draft BPA in the first 2 rounds.

If management never address team needs, you end up like the Redskins: talent almost everywhere, plus a giant hole called the offensive line that prevents your team from being successful.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 26, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

cmoooon jamon meredith. were almost there

Posted by: amsaul | April 26, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Next pick 150. Get Vick. He's been in a cell for a year he's ready to whoop tail and take names.

Don't argue with the Skin's haters. They're here to stay. I'm a skin til the end.

We need to pick nothing but linebackers and lineman. Maybe even a reciever to scare D. Thomas and Kelly.

Posted by: rseetreydeuce | April 26, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Not cool..But he can run around like a scalded dog without an O-line to protect him..

Posted by: frak | April 26, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Is that fat guy from LSU, OG Herman Munster still available? Guy was he biggest baby in the history of Louisiana liierally--weighed about 40 pounds at birth), but lost something like thirty pounds when he worked out.

Sounds like he's worth a fifth rounder to me.

Posted by: TheCork


Now you're talkin'..This might appeal to Nero Barnum's sense of show bidness

Posted by: frak


AND he'll sell a lot of jerseys. And Snyder can charge MORE because they'll all be XXXXXXL size. AND think about "Herman Johnson Baby Onesies!"

I could be a marketing genius like The Dan, if I wasn't so beusy being snarky here.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

They really need to draft 3 OL at this point. Watch them grab Sidury. Or the local kid with all the speed at CB.

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

What do ya'll think about trading a 5th or 6th round pick to get Michael Vick?

Posted by: DemBakerBoyz

Skins have already offered a fifth, a sixth, nesxt year's #1 and a Mangled Pit Bull to be named Later.

Charley Manson's coming up for parole soon. Skins need a wedgebuster. Go for it, Dan.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Only reason why I mentioned Vick is because he excelled in the West Coast offense. I don't care about the legal issues (No one is perfect). But I was thinking it would be a steal to get a 1st round guy for a 5th or 6th round pick. Plus I think he will play as if he has a chip on his shoulder (Avoiding bankruptcy).

Posted by: DemBakerBoyz | April 26, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Fortunately, Jerry Jones is as big a screw up as Snyder when it comes to drafting. You can tell these are his picks.

Unfortunately, the Eagles and Giants have done extremely well with their picks, whether trading for valuable veterans or with their picks. Its scary how good they could potentially be next year.

Posted by: periculum | April 26, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Good news.

'Skins just traded a sixth and a seventh to move up to draft Steven Hawking.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Again, Skins don't address what they need the most.

But, I would've taken Victor (Macho) Harris instead.

Posted by: rachel216 ****

Macho is too slow and will be exposed at the next level, IMO.


Posted by: lsskinsfan | April 26, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse
Harris had 4.68 in 40 at combine. Barnes had a 4.45 in SportingNews data sheet.

Posted by: frediefritz | April 26, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

How many Super Bowls do the Eagles have? I love how Eagles spout how great of an organization they are with no hardware...I don't care how many NFC Championships they've been to.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 26, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

5 picks till our next one and miraculously Duke Robinson is still on the board! fall! fall!

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 26, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Good news.

'Skins just traded a sixth and a seventh to move up to draft Steven Hawking.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 2:28 PM | =============================================
If they made him their GM, it would be a great trade.

Some brains running the show, at last!
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 26, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't think they will pick duke. I think they will go with Meredith.

Posted by: DemBakerBoyz | April 26, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Duke or cedric peerman either or and I would be happy

Posted by: theFreshinAU | April 26, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

So far Redskin's got a top 6 player with the 13 pick, and a late first/early second round player in the third to fill two positions of need on the team.

Snyder tried to move back and add picks but was rebuffed. Give him credit for holding his water and not giving away too much.

I like both picks.

Gotta start galling Barnes "Gatorade", LOL

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 26, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Is this team (on paper) better than was last year?

yes

Posted by: rickyroge

At the risk of incurring the wrath of the board for daring to be a realist, that isn't the important question,

That is: Has this team (on paper) improved more than it's key NFC East opponents. There, the answer appears to be a resounding "no."

The Giants reloaded a loaded defense and filled their receiver needs.

Philly got a top notch receiver/returner and filled their RB needs.

Dallas got rid of TO and improved their locker room exponentially.

Posted by: TheCork | April 26, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Vinny don't fail us now. Pick up Meredith. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: atari1317 | April 26, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

DUKE ROBINSON OR HERMAN JOHNSON FTW!

Posted by: TDawg1 | April 26, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

All the football sages up here know who will perform this year, who won't, who will be injured, and who will develop.

They must be the same seers who called the Atlanta Falcons going 11-5 last year and the emergence of Baltimore rookie QB Joe Flacco. I bet they also knew that Chris Horton was a diamond in the rough the day he was drafted.

I can't believe they don't have all 32 teams banging down their doors to hire them as scouts and/or general managers.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 26, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

We are on the clock...

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 26, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Heyer injured is better than Jansen being healthy. People make mistakes, and get injured in football. That doesn't mean they'll stay hurt or keeping making mistakes. He's 6'4 and young not 6 foot and beat up. Think about the future not the past.

Posted by: rseetreydeuce | April 26, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

We should have taken a lineman in the third and macho harris with this pick

Posted by: hokiesmokie | April 26, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

We're finally up.

Posted by: DemBakerBoyz | April 26, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

give me meredith here

Posted by: Skins1 | April 26, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Let's slow down on saying the Giants fixed their WR problem. We all saw how rookies may not add much last year on our squad.

Speaking of the Eagles they traded 2 5th rounders to NE for Ellis Hobbs.

Come on Vinny, OL now.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | April 26, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

why?

Posted by: theFreshinAU | April 26, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Traded the pick

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 26, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

We traded the pick???? WTF!!!!!

Posted by: DemBakerBoyz | April 26, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

pick traded...i figured bc they were taking so long

Posted by: Skins1 | April 26, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

traded pick to Vikings

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 26, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Trade, where is Jasno. What did we get?

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | April 26, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

fjflkeeek!!!!! Duke on the board and we trade the pick away!

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 26, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

To get more picks why else.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 26, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

They traded the pick. Come on Dan and Vinnie. This aint wall street. We need to protect our QB and stop runners and tight ends.

Posted by: rseetreydeuce | April 26, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Vinny that draft genius made a trade!

Posted by: buke | April 26, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

looks like we traded 150 to vikings

Posted by: frediefritz | April 26, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: lsskinsfan | April 26, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse
Harris had 4.68 in 40 at combine. Barnes had a 4.45 in SportingNews data sheet.

Posted by: frediefritz *****

exactly

Posted by: lsskinsfan | April 26, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

We get more picks but they can't pick who would've been available at 150.

Posted by: rseetreydeuce | April 26, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

What did we get from the trade?

Posted by: DemBakerBoyz | April 26, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

What did we get?? more anchovies..

Posted by: frak | April 26, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

depends on how far we moved back...


anybody got a list of Minnesota's picks??

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 26, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Where is the fat reporter to explain the details of the deal?

Posted by: hehateme | April 26, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

traded pick to vikings for 22nd pick in fifth round and 12 pick in 7th round

Posted by: skinsst21 | April 26, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

We got Minnesota's 5th rounder at 158 and a 7th rounder number 221.

We dropped 8 spots to get another pick.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 26, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

We got Minny's 5th round/it looks like the 7th round.

Posted by: DemBakerBoyz | April 26, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

That's not bad

Posted by: frak | April 26, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

A well-regarded offensive lineman was available with this pick at 150 (one from OK and another from SC). However, as Vinnie knows, quantities of duds are better than one quality pick.

Posted by: EdDC | April 26, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

It just so happens I'm buges's nephew and he told me so, and he also said that Lorenzo alexander will be working with the O-line only this season so there!!!

Posted by: skinztattoo89 | April 26, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

lerici,

Go have another beer. At least I hope you're drunk based on your idiotic posts. Next time if you quote someone, use the entire quote not what is convenient for your argument.

Posted by: croftonpost | April 26, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Cody Glenn? Anyone know anything about this guy?

Posted by: rseetreydeuce | April 26, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Being a Nebraska alumni, did a quick search. Glenn formerly played RB and switched to LB in his senior year. Was performing quite well, third on team in tackles, but was suspended for violating team rules and missed the last 4 games(including the bowl game) Could not find the reason for the suspension.

Posted by: qfrodo | April 26, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Touche Thunder! Touche. I'm probably so bitter about our FO's ineptitude that I don't even sniff out sarcasm anymore.

Posted by: noltondavis1330 | April 26, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Well I hope Macho Harris is too slow and doesn't play well since our WRs will be playing against him twice a year.

Posted by: noltondavis1330 | April 26, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Robert Henson. Is he good?

Posted by: rseetreydeuce | April 26, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I thought that Snyder & Cerrato were dumb. It appears they just mirror some of these posters. Things will be fine on the O-Line with Dockery back. Yes they are a little thin but I expect Jansen to bounce back. He was a great lineman for many years. Drafting a corner I never heard of was a bit strange but we definitely needed an upgrade over Tryon. Now we picked up two more LB's that will challenge Campbell & Blades. So all in all, we added depth in areas that needed it via the draft/free agency and left the downfield passing game alone because Zorn truly believes Malcom Kelly & Devin Thomas will step up & perform & disallow double teams on Santana.

Posted by: KellRawLive | April 26, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I know the ole saying, you must have a great defense and a running game to make it to the Super Bowl. Last year the Skins ranked 4th overall on defense and 19th overall on Offense. Their problem was the lack of a playmaker and ability to get into the end zone on offense. Through free agency and the draft, no offensive skill players have been taken. I guess we got all of offensive punch in the 08 draft.

Posted by: NCskinsfan1 | April 26, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Robert henson could not be found in top thirty linebackers ranked and when i clicked on his name to see what was written, nothing was there. This pick has Mc Cune written all over it. Vinny is easily the most inept GM/decision maker in the history of this sport. only keeps his job because he is Danyboys lapdog as any real football man won't work for this guy because he wants to be like his idle jerry Jones. wants to be GM and owner. Love my skins -hate or front office decision makers. Let's talk about deals for QB's in the press and let our QB get hung out to dry. Jason, play ur a s s this year and then run from these clowns....RUN!

Posted by: klangley69 | April 26, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

We can't count on Samuels playing 16 games (when was the last time he did that?)

Posted by: p1funk

Jesus christ. I know I often say Redskins fans have the shortest memories of any fans on earth, but sometimes it's borderline amnesia levels. When was the last time Samuels played 16 games? Are you being serious?? Try every year for the last several years.

He started 76 games in a row until last December for crying outloud!

Posted by: Barno1 | April 26, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

The typical fan reaction. The draft was good and adressed some neds.

Posted by: lilagram | April 27, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

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