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Albert Haynesworth on board as Redskins move forward

Determined to finally pass his conditioning test, Albert Haynesworth on Saturday reported to Redskins Park around 5:30 a.m. ready to work.

As he had done the first nine days of training camp, the Pro Bowler met with strength coach Ray Wright, who had Haynesworth's schedule planned for the morning, but the afternoon portion was not set, people familiar with the situation said. After four days of resting his knee and not even attempting the test, some in the organization expected Haynesworth to finally pass it Saturday morning.

The test, which Mike Shanahan mandated Haynesworth pass before he could participate in full practice, has been a hurdle for the defensive tackle, whose failure to complete the two, timed 300-yard shuttle runs in the allotted time had stirred frustration within the organization. But after an MRI exam Thursday on Haynesworth's sore knee revealed no structural damage and the two-time All-Pro was "flying" on a treadmill after the test, according to a source, there was a sense of optimism that Haynesworth would soon pass the test.

Haynesworth, Haslett, Wright and three other members of Wright's staff walked down the hill to the practice fields at 7:06 a.m. As workers milled about preparing the VIP tent for Fan Appreciation Day at the complex, Haynesworth stretched for about 10 minutes. A worker shouted out, "You got this."

Unofficially, Haynesworth completed the first run in 66 seconds, and following a break, he finished the second portion of the test in 70 seconds, according to two team sources who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to provide the results. Shanahan is expected to address the situation at some point Saturday. And Haynesworth and Haslett might also be made available to the media for the first time since camp opened on July 29.

So on his fourth attempt at the test, Haynesworth cleared the bar Shanahan set in order for him to participate in 11-on-11 drills. Haslett, who has worked individually with Haynesworth from the outset of camp, was extremely happy, a team source said.

Haslett, one of Shanahan's most trusted lieutenants, has been in total agreement with Shanahan's handling of Haynesworth, who skipped all but one day of Shanahan's first offseason program. But Haslett is developing a good working relationship with Haynesworth, whom he believes could be among the keys to the team making a successful transition from the 4-3 to their new base 3-4. Haslett was "happy as hell" about Haynesworth passing the test, one source said.

Now, Haslett can move forward with his plan to primarily have Haynesworth line up as the Redskins' starting right end. He's been studying the position in meeting rooms and by watching his teammates during practice. He also worked with Haslett and Jacob Burney, the team's defensive line coach, on the field following most practices.

And in a twist of irony, Haynesworth actually likes the new defense and Haslett's plans for him in the scheme, two sources said. Haynesworth's concern about the unknown, in large part, prompted him to stay away from Ashburn for most of the offseason, resulting in the current situation. Coaches will finally get to see how he actually fits into the team's new defense.

By Jason Reid  |  August 7, 2010; 8:33 AM ET
Categories:  3-4 defense , Albert Haynesworth , Jim Haslett  
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Comments

Relationship wise...

Gregg Williams-Sean Taylor
Jim Haslett-Albert Haynesworth

Posted by: rickyroge | August 7, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Relationship wise...

Gregg Williams-Sean Taylor
Jim Haslett-Albert Haynesworth

Posted by: rickyroge | August 7, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Coaches will finally get to see how he actually fits into the team's new defense.

By Jason Reid | August 7, 2010; 8:33 AM ET

Trent Williams is gonna have to turn it up a notch.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 7, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Quick, now that he's fit, trade him to St. Louis or Denver

Posted by: KingME1 | August 7, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Amen. Let's move on. Assuming he talks to the media, it will be interesting to hear what he says.

Posted by: getitritegov | August 7, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Quick, now that he's fit, trade him to St. Louis or Denver

Posted by: KingME1 | August 7, 2010 8:41 AM

You're not keeping up, are you? The guy's fit. He's (apparently) motivated. And he has a coaching staff that he seems to trust. He has All Pro talents. Why would you trade him, now that he has the potential to become the player that we paid $100 million for?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 7, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Really happy Hanyesworth was able to shave 5 secs off a 6 turn run. Because those 5 seconds really makes or breaks one conditioning. Sarcasm over.

It'll be interesting to see how Trent Williams handle the coupling of AH and Rak. If he's able to handle that combination,TW should be fine.

Posted by: TWISI | August 7, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Maybe my plan to move Albert in the offseason for picks won't work. Maybe he can just stay here and play out his career, now that his @$$ has been royally and repeatedly kicked by Shanahan!

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 7, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

This has worked exactly the way Shanny and Haslett planned it (perhaps minus the extra days for AH to pass the test). Shanny maintains the tough coach aura (which the team has bought into). At the same time, bad cop Shanny drove AH into good cop Haslett's waiting arms. AH couldn't malinger with all his teammates there, feeling that he was holding them back. Albert is now fit, loves Haslett, appreciates the defense, and can hate Shanny all he wants privately. This is what AH has needed all along, just too immature to appreciate it. Hopefully this has a happy ending. Regardless, the psychological brilliance of how the AH situation has been handled...seems to have been lost on the reporters, columnists and fans. Finally time to say: Hail, Redskins!

Posted by: StevenGrossman | August 7, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

I still don't think he passed. I think everyone involved just wanted the distraction over with.

Posted by: jbworldwide | August 7, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Shanny da man!

My excitement meter just went to 11.

Posted by: farstriker | August 7, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Well, it's going to be interesting to see how Haynesworth does physically now: he's a little lighter, has had a little more cardio work, but the knee is a little twitchy. I have to imagine he is going to be practicing the first few days with a chip on his shoulder. I wouldn't want to line up against him. Trent Williams better bring his "A" game.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 7, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Regardless, the psychological brilliance of how the AH situation has been handled...seems to have been lost on the reporters, columnists and fans. Finally time to say: Hail, Redskins!

Posted by: StevenGrossman

Think you nailed it there. For an experienced and previously successful NFL head coach like Shanahan it was always too simplistic to simply say he was getting back at Haynesworth or truly believed that passing this test proved AH was conditioned. Shanahan also has a well reported history of playing 'mind games' with his player.

But anyway, TFI's over and the player, team and this site can move on.

Posted by: craig81 | August 7, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

I still don't think he passed.

Posted by: jbworldwide | August 7, 2010 9:06 AM

And you're basing this on what? You were there with a stop watch?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 7, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Our long national nightmare is over!

Posted by: chrislarry | August 7, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Our long national nightmare is over.

Posted by: UnionStationDC | August 7, 2010 8:07 AM

Our long national nightmare is over!

Posted by: chrislarry | August 7, 2010 9:13 AM

I like the exclamation point. That earlier post was missing something.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 7, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

As Mary Katherine Gallagher would say "Superstar."

Posted by: Weave160 | August 7, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

"Quick, now that he's fit, trade him to St. Louis or Denver
Posted by: KingME1 | August 7, 2010 8:41 AM
"Why would you trade him, now that he has the potential to become the player that we paid $100 million for?
Posted by: beep-beep"

LOL I think KingME was just funnin'. I like the comment by ChrisLarry, about how our long national nightmare is over...

Posted by: Samson151 | August 7, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Hip Hip!

HOOORAAYYYYYY!!!!

Posted by: Wonsapnatm | August 7, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse
Oops, that was last year.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 7, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Trade him quick, before he destroys team and his trade value.

Posted by: ksobserver1 | August 7, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

"I still don't think he passed.
Posted by: jbworldwide|August 7, 2010 9:06A"

We'll never know, will we? But I'm sure everybody on the team was as sick of this as the fans were.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 7, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

I like the comment by ChrisLarry, about how our long national nightmare is over...

Posted by: Samson151 | August 7, 2010 9:18 AM

Me too. No matter how many times I hear it, it always seems fresh and apropos. I wish I'd thought of it first. Or second. Or third, even.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 7, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Regardless, the psychological brilliance of how the AH situation has been handled...seems to have been lost on the reporters, columnists and fans. Finally time to say: Hail, Redskins!

Posted by: StevenGrossman

Think you nailed it there. For an experienced and previously successful NFL head coach like Shanahan it was always too simplistic to simply say he was getting back at Haynesworth or truly believed that passing this test proved AH was conditioned. Shanahan also has a well reported history of playing 'mind games' with his player.
Posted by: craig81

Thank you. I'd add that press and fans have short memories. It wasn't the long ago that everyone was saying "this could never have a good ending." And even today, there seem to be some saying that Albert has some leverage. He has none, nor particularly needs any. Watch for part 2: Haslett and AH talking to reporters about how the defense is going to rock and how happy Albert is to be in camp and ready to play. Both will predict a big pro bowl year for Albert.

Posted by: StevenGrossman | August 7, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

My favorite section of this report:

"Haslett, one of Shanahan's most trusted lieutenants, has been in total agreement with Shanahan's handling of Haynesworth..."

That's true courage!!

Knew it was going to end this week. Had to. Way too much bad publicity. Why, some people were wondering how the "voluntary" workouts became "voluntary or you'll have to take a test that no one in the history of the league had to pass". Stranahan was looking real bad.

Seems you just can't trust anybody. Interesting next contract negotiations. Make sure to spell out the "or conditioning test" requirements. (By the way: Anyone seen the NFLPA?)

Posted by: beansforbob | August 7, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Regardless, the psychological brilliance of how the AH situation has been handled...seems to have been lost on the reporters, columnists and fans. Finally time to say: Hail, Redskins!

Posted by: StevenGrossman

Think you nailed it there. For an experienced and previously successful NFL head coach like Shanahan it was always too simplistic to simply say he was getting back at Haynesworth or truly believed that passing this test proved AH was conditioned. Shanahan also has a well reported history of playing 'mind games' with his player.

But anyway, TFI's over and the player, team and this site can move on.

Posted by: craig81


I think AH is playing mind games with Shanahan. I think he was able to pass the test all along. In essence, he will get to start on opening day without participating in a good portion of training camp. He could easily do the same thing next year, but he could pass the condition test much later because he already knows the defense and wouldn't need to learn it in training camp.

Posted by: JustinChuck189 | August 7, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Five and eleven ...

Posted by: mitlen | August 7, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Hope that #1 Rookie Williams is prepared to take a beat-down. Y'all can make fun of A.H. - as I often do - but, trust me, no one is going to want to line up across from him these next couple of practices.

Posted by: rastines | August 7, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I doubt he really passed the test. But at least we can move on now.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | August 7, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

I think AH is playing mind games with Shanahan. I think he was able to pass the test all along.

Posted by: JustinChuck189 | August 7, 2010 9:32 AM

And he did this because he really likes to be the laughing stock of the NFL and all the media that cover it. But that was a small price to pay for a "mind game."

Posted by: beep-beep | August 7, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

'bout time...

Posted by: priceisright | August 7, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

I doubt he really passed the test. But at least we can move on now.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | August 7, 2010 9:37 AM

And what do you base your doubt on? You just don't believe that he can run that fast or what?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 7, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

"I still don't think he passed. I think everyone involved just wanted the distraction over with."

Who cares? Now that this kidney stone of a non-story has passed, RI can get on with covering their other irrelevancies, like what Doug Dutch thinks of the Ravens' practices, and getting their butts kicked by a right-wing rag like the Examiner. Memo to the WAPO: HIRE JOHN KEIM.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | August 7, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

if he truly is excited about this D now and is quicker and stronger, WATCHOUT! Hail! And to beep-beep, your negativity and inability to get a joke is a amazing. You don't contribute much to forum. Jack@**.

Posted by: kevinlc555 | August 7, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Thank God!

Now will you please stop writing about him Jason? I'm tired of all of the drama.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 7, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

I still don't think he passed. I think everyone involved just wanted the distraction over with.

Posted by: jbworldwide | August 7, 2010 9:06 AM


Why? Because Florio on PFT said he's skeptical? Seems to me they don't have specific times leaked if the thing was rigged...but hey, if you believe there's a conspiracy, you've probably got some "cloak and dagger" theory for why those specific times got leaked...

I'm just glad to see this over. Maybe now Reid can chuck the template for his AH posts (notice how this one reads almost EXACTLY like every other AH non-update update over the last few days???) and start covering the other 70+ guys on the team...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 7, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Wow, I don't think I saw one fat joke while reading through the comments. The 15 year olds must not be up yet.

Posted by: jdwood84 | August 7, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Our long national nightmare is over!?!

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 7, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I think AH is playing mind games with Shanahan. I think he was able to pass the test all along.

Posted by: JustinChuck189

And he did this because he really likes to be the laughing stock of the NFL and all the media that cover it. But that was a small price to pay for a "mind game."

Posted by: beep-beep

If AH really cared what people thought about him, he wouldn't of faked injuries every other game when he got tired nor would he have come into camp out of shape after his teamates called him out and created a national distraction. Come on, Mike Golic passed this test on the first try. AH is currently a professional athlete in the NFL.

Posted by: JustinChuck189 | August 7, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Guess who really passed the test.

Shanahan get an A for dealing with punks.

Shanahan for president?

Posted by: docwhocuts | August 7, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Al, now the story has turned back into if the Skins can win an NFC East game this year (?)

Posted by: bernard_thompson | August 7, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

My client has proven his point.

As an aside, the human mind is amazing, isn't it? You folks want to believe that Shanahan is in control so you fool yourselves into believing that Mr. Haynesworth actually got into better shape by doing nothing. Use some common sense people! Has doing nothing ever improved your cardiovascular fitness?

Shanahan knows who pulls the strings on this team and his name is Albert Haynesworth, III.

I'll keep in touch. I think I see a back problem developing for Mr. Haynesworth if Shanahan tries to get clever again.

Posted by: HaynesworthsAgent | August 7, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse


Five and eleven ...

Posted by: mitlen | August 7, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Mitlen...look over your employee handbook again, if I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times....it's 7-11....Now go fix me a breakfast burrito slow boy.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | August 7, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Docwhocuts; Shanahan for president, who's on his ticket? its been a while since we've had a VP named Al. Just saying, football can be like politics, strange bedfellows can often win.

Posted by: Skin4Life1 | August 7, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I'm going to take a positive approach - if he really did pass the test today, good for him. I hope he maintains his fitness and contributes to the team this season.

Now can we PLEASE move on? :-)

Posted by: gewaldron | August 7, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Deadspin has a pic of Big Al right now, and all I have to say is he looks to be in great shape. I'm still going to call him "Big" or "Fat" Al but with a little less vitriol...that is until he starts rolling around on the ground in the first quarter. He may have been an a$$, but I hope he runs circles around left tackles. His frame actually looks capable of doing it.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | August 7, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Now that Haynesworth found out who's boss, manned up and passed this bloody test, he needs to know his role and do what's he told. Good job Shanahan!

Posted by: meldupree | August 7, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse


The couch potatoes were right the whole time. You can get into better shape by watching other people work! Lol!

I don't care if the numbers were fudged or not. Get Tubby on the field and let's get ready for Dallas!

Posted by: Skinz4Lyfe | August 7, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Our long national nightmare is over!?!

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 7, 2010 10:00 AM

Let me be the 4th to say it: Our long national nightmare is over!!

Posted by: beep-beep | August 7, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

I am now excited for the pre-season to get rolling!

Posted by: alex35332 | August 7, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Albert is now playing
Shanahan is firmly in charge
New offense and defense that players believe in

All the pieces are into falling into place

I think we are going to like this season much better

Just sayin'

Posted by: noonefromtampa | August 7, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Hour-long national nightmare is over?

Posted by: Bob-S | August 7, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Come on, Mike Golic passed this test on the first try. AH is currently a professional athlete in the NFL.

Posted by: JustinChuck189 | August 7, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Let's set the record straight. Mike Golic did not pass the test. His buddy Mike stopped the watch at those times, but later his times were checked electronically from the tapes, and he did not make the times.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 7, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

This has played out exactly the way it was supposed to ... I have always been proud of the fact that, for the most part, Skin's fans are completely loyal to the team, even if management has left much to be desired over the years.

We FINALLY have GREAT management !!

And you few "NAY SAYERS" out there that still remain ...
When Big AL & Rak destroy opposing team's backfields this year, maybe you will figure a few things out & focus on something more deserving of you effort ...

Posted by: EFitz1000aolcom | August 7, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

This has played out exactly the way it was supposed to ... I have always been proud of the fact that, for the most part, Skin's fans are completely loyal to the team, even if management has left much to be desired over the years.

We FINALLY have GREAT management !!

And you few "NAY SAYERS" out there that still remain ...
When Big AL & Rak destroy opposing team's backfields this year, maybe you will figure a few things out & focus on something more deserving of you effort ...

Posted by: EFitz1000aolcom | August 7, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

This has played out exactly the way it was supposed to ... I have always been proud of the fact that, for the most part, Skin's fans are completely loyal to the team, even if management has left much to be desired over the years.

We FINALLY have GREAT management !!

And you few "NAY SAYERS" out there that still remain ...
When Big AL & Rak destroy opposing team's backfields this year, maybe you will figure a few things out & focus on something more deserving of your efforts ...

Posted by: EFitz1000aolcom | August 7, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

"Albert Haynesworth on board as Redskins move forward"

And as we've been saying all along:

"LEAVE ALBERT BE!!!"

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 7, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

So does this mean that all players can now skip next year's OTAs, offseason training and mandatory pre-camp events if they just pass the 300-yard shuttle test when they show up for training camp?

Posted by: randysbailin | August 7, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Let's set the record straight. Mike Golic did not pass the test. His buddy Mike stopped the watch at those times, but later his times were checked electronically from the tapes, and he did not make the times.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 7, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

If I'm going to set the record straight, I better get it right. The problem with Golic's run was that he did not reach the line at each turn. So he ran less than 300 yd shuttles.

Here the video if anyone wants it:

http://larrybrownsports.com/football/mike-golic-mds-pass-albert-haynesworth-conditioning-test-video/26153

Posted by: frediefritz | August 7, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

My pet peeve: people who double-click the Submit button.

Posted by: pundito | August 7, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

"Shanahan for president?"


I'll vote for him if you can prove he was born in the United States.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 7, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

good read about RUSS

PFT looks at the 2010 class of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

It's a silly nickname and maybe even an insulting nickname, but "The Hogs" was also the perfect nickname for those big, fat, sweaty guys who led the way as the Washington Redskins won three Super Bowls.

Russ Grimm was the original Hog.

Fellow Hog George Starke told Peter King of Sports Illustrated the story: "Not everyone knows that the name Hogs came from a description of Russ Grimm. He was lying on the ground at the end of a blocking drill and [offensive line coach] Joe Bugel walked by and Russ had his stomach peeking out of his shirt. Buges said, 'Man, Russ get up. You look like a Hog laying on the ground.' After that the rest of us decided to poke fun at Buges and wear white shirts to practice and we all had Hogs written on them. Buges said to us, 'Why are you doing that?' We said, 'Because we are in solidarity with Russ and if you call him a Hog, you have to call us all Hogs.' That is where the name came from.''

Grimm played for the Redskins from 1981 to 1991, and although the second half of his career was plagued by injuries, he was named a member of the All-Decade Team at the end of the 1980s.

Starke called Grimm "the greatest guard to ever play pro football." Today he takes a place among his fellow greats.


Posted by: suliman215 | August 7, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

"Haynesworth actually likes the new defense and Haslett's plans for him in the scheme"


That's because after each play, he gets a Happy Meal and a nap while the other defenders huddle up for the next play.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 7, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

MistaMoe: You rock, guy!

Posted by: chuckv | August 7, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

"So does this mean that all players can now skip next year's OTAs, offseason training and mandatory pre-camp events if they just pass the 300-yard shuttle test when they show up for training camp?"

Yes, if you don't mind paying the fine for missing the mandatory events. But you'd better be a very good player. If you're marginal, you will soon be seeking other employment.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | August 7, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Relationship wise...

Gregg Williams-Sean Taylor
Jim Haslett-Albert Haynesworth

You forgot:

St. Joe-Mark Brunell
Steve Spurrier-Danny Wuerffel/Shane Matthews/Jaquez Green/Chris Doering
Jim Zorn-Jason Campbell

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 7, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

@HaynesworthAgent:

You are so right. The human mind is something. People want to believe that Shanny is in control. Really now?

Folks think that Al would not purposefully fail because he would not want to "embarass" himself. Let's go back to test one. He passed the first part. THEN, Big Al takes a 10 minute bathroom break? Does that sound like somebody concerned about passing a test or afraid of the fans or media will say about him?

If Haynesworth is not at nose in the 3-4 but at end, now who really won? Oh, all this time you folks think that the Skins told Al he would be at end but he did not know the difference between nose and DE? The skins changed their planned use of Al because of his actions, and now it looks like Al will be at DE and gets to keep the million$$$.

In the "End" we need to understand that players are not just 'dumb jocks' but may have some real idea of what will enable them to better perform. This is what will help the team win, which is all that matters.

True, don't let the players 'run' the team, but try better communication with your players instead of trying to force your plan on them. Then if it does not work out, take out your whipping stick!

But if we sit or trade AL, tell me, who is going to stop Brandon Jacobs on 4th and 1, Shanahan, Haslett, Phillip Daniels, or even Fletch?

Posted by: bjbmusa | August 7, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

In the middle of the second quarter of the Dallas game, Haynesworth will limp off with his first "injury". After the game, Danny will sign Bruce Smith.

Posted by: ajlerner1 | August 7, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

"MistaMoe: You rock, guy!"

Thanks for the shout-out.

I'd show it to mrsmoe, but then, she'd want to have your baby.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 7, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Just for fun: the algorithms at Footballoutsiders.com are projecting McNabb to complete 61.3 of his passes, pass for more than 3700 yards, and finish with 25 TDs and 10 INTs. However they recommend taking the yards down a few hundred and the INTs up 3-5 based on the newness of the line. That leaves 3400 yards and 13-15 INTs.

The other thing they took the trouble to note is McNabb's very high DVOA (the metric they use to calculate per-play efficiency) when hurried. Last year he was second to Aaron Rodgers. By comparison, Jason Campbell was ninth in a tie with Carson Palmer.

They're slotting the Skins at 8-9 wins this season.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 7, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

"My pet peeve: people who double-click the Submit button."


That's still not as annoying as the cricket-filled silence from the Cult 'O Colt members who've yet to appear for their plate 'o crow.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 7, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

5:30 in the morning??

Regardless, it's closure to only one part of the fat bastard's drama.

In Shanahan I trust!

Posted by: psssst | August 7, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Way to go Shanahan!! Everyone who took AH's side do you remember this?: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d812b27da&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

That was why Shanahan was not going to let him get away with his BS. Time to earn your money Albert.

Posted by: anacostia85 | August 7, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse


I still don't think he passed.

Posted by: jbworldwide | August 7, 2010 9:06 AM

And you're basing this on what? You were there with a stop watch?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 7, 2010 9:13 AM |

He's just one of those people that believe in the basic indecency of human nature.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 7, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

samson151

"McNabb to complete 61.3 of his passes, pass for more than 3700 yards,..."

Those numbers coupled with a running game that produces 1,700 yards and a defense that gets turnovers/shortfields makes the 8-9 win projection more like 9-7 or 10-6.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 7, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

"But if we sit or trade AL, tell me, who is going to stop Brandon Jacobs on 4th and 1..."
Posted by: bjbmusa

Since you brought it up, Brandon's productivity really fell off last season. So did the NY o-line's, but Brandon was way worse. Ahmad Bradshaw seems to have become the more productive back. Jacobs is in his 5th season and just turned 28. Don't know what sort of shape he's in, but his average fell from 4.9 to 3.7 last per carry.

It ain't 2007 any more...

Posted by: Samson151 | August 7, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

"Those numbers coupled with a running game that produces 1,700 yards and a defense that gets turnovers/shortfields makes the 8-9 win projection more like 9-7 or 10-6.Posted by: MistaMoe"

LOL well I guess we better hope those suckers couple, then.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 7, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse


Shanahan (February-March): You're playing the position that I SAY you're going to play and I SAY you're playing nose tackle in my 3-4 defense!

Haynesworth (calmly): No, I'm not.

Shanahan (July-August): Like I said, you're playing defensive end and that's final!

Haynesworth (calmly): Whatever you say, coach. You're in control.

Posted by: Firuz1 | August 7, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

bjbmusa

"If Haynesworth is not at nose in the 3-4 but at end, now who really won?"

As lead Haynesworth apologist, I'll re-iterate just what Prince Al's beef was:

He wanted to play right/left end and tackle.

He wanted to move along the line in various spots in order to make plays.

He now has learned that Jim Haslett intends to use him in that manner.

His issue with being a 3-down nose tackle is that it was as dumb as the idea of using Champ Bailey as a wide receiver was back in the day.

And he's right: motivated, he'll blow up most teams left and right offensive tackles, and allow others to make plays.

His best position, though, will be left defensive end.

We want the guy to play well as he then becomes a trading chip next Spring when we convert him into additional picks in rounds 1-2.

The Haynesworth Saga is over.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 7, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Brilliant ones...

This shows how pathetic and how much of a true jerk Albert is. He could have passed this test day one. Albert deep down does not want to play football like he did before getting his payday. He's gotten his payday. He never practiced last year, was a joke, and half the player he was during his contract year. He has the drive, the heart, and the determination of a sloth.

The true punishment from Shanny was not making him pass the test. It was making Albert watch his fellow teammates practice while Albert was over there wearing his baseball cap, twirling his helmet in his hands, while people that are truly committed, were out there busting their butts for the cause. Albert has no cause. He is a pathetic teammate and has no chance of being a hall-a-famer because everyone in the hall was a leader, motivated, a great teammate, and had the drive to be great. What a waste of talent.

Posted by: redskinbo | August 7, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Let's keep in mind that the Redskins lost 7 games last year by 6 points or less. The addition of Mike Shanahan & Donovan Mcnabb has got to get us another touchdown per game. Which means based on that the skins record last year could have been 11-5. We are not as bad as the entire nation thinks we are. I say at least 10-6 or 11-5 this year. Hail to the Redskins!!! Congrats to Russ Grimm on the HOF

Posted by: sknsfn1027 | August 7, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Now that is over we can move on to MILKBABY 2.0

All Hail!

Posted by: klangley69 | August 7, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Don't care much about the Fat Guy but Mike "Elway" Shanahan's camp has been self-hijacked so that the WP can keep writing about what a badass he is. Pitiful. And now - a miracle - AH passed! What a stunner.

Posted by: bikobiko | August 7, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Hooray. Now stand up and be a man.

Posted by: steven09 | August 7, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

The skins changed their planned use of Al because of his actions, and now it looks like Al will be at DE and gets to keep the million$$$.
by bjbmusa

Actually, I think they planned to use AH at both NT and DE, depending on down and distance. Early on, I called for him to play DE on 3rd down. Then they signed Maake, and decied AH would be more disruptive at DE.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 7, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

i guess my question is, can andre carter cover a tight end/running back down field on a pass play? AH has always been a non-story which has been blown way out of proportion. between the coaches and the players, that's it. fans like to know how the players are making out learning new systems, who looks good, any diamonds in the rough. can we now please get some of that kinda stuff.

Posted by: joerutgens72 | August 7, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

"If Haynesworth is not at nose in the 3-4 but at end, now who really won?"

posted by: MistaMoe | August 7, 2010 11:56 AM |

I'd say we did. Having an actual nose tackle AND Haynesworth as an end is a victory for us.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 7, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Good job fat boy! I bet Shanny promised to take him out for ice cream afterward if he passed.

Over/under on Albert rolling around on the ground this season with a phantom injury: 5

I'm betting the house on the over.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | August 7, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

"I still don't think he passed.
Posted by: jbworldwide|August 7, 2010 9:06A"
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Funny, where was the official proof that he failed in the first place? There were no timed recordings for both instances, just words from trainers and coaches. Like what previous posters stated, this is Shanahan's team and Albert will pass only when Shanahan say so. Hail Shanahan! Hail Road Back To Glory!

Posted by: JohnWWW | August 7, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

joerutgens

"I guess my question is, can andre carter cover a tight end/running back down field on a pass play?"


I agree.

Andre Carter isn't an outside like Lorenzo Alexander might be.

And how do Rob Jackson, Jeremy Jarmon, and Chris Wilson fit into things in the new-style redskin D?

If the team wasn't building around his 11 sack season, it should've explored trading Carter knowing such a move would open up the d-end spot for younger players while bringing back a draft pick or two.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 7, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

"Folks think that Al would not purposefully fail because he would not want to "embarass" himself. Let's go back to test one. He passed the first part. THEN, Big Al takes a 10 minute bathroom break? Does that sound like somebody concerned about passing a test or afraid of the fans or media will say about him?"

No, it sounds like someone who was either so ill that he needed a break (their story), or so gassed that he knew that he couldn't complete the second run without a longer break, and thought that the team would just let him slide.

"If Haynesworth is not at nose in the 3-4 but at end, now who really won? Oh, all this time you folks think that the Skins told Al he would be at end but he did not know the difference between nose and DE? The skins changed their planned use of Al because of his actions, and now it looks like Al will be at DE and gets to keep the million$$$."

Haynesworth wanted to get traded or released because he wanted no part of playing in a 3-4. He did not get traded or released, and he will be playing in a 3-4, including, by all accounts, some snaps at NT. His credibility and reputation for anything other than laziness and unprofessional behavior among players, coaches and GMs around the league has been totally destroyed. If somebody "won" this little episode, it wasn't AH. And I believe that if Kemoeatu had not recovered sufficiently from his achilles injury, AH would primarily be playing NT.

"True, don't let the players 'run' the team, but try better communication with your players instead of trying to force your plan on them. Then if it does not work out, take out your whipping stick!"

What would you suggest, coaches going to each player and asking them if it's OK to run an offense or defense that the coach wants to employ? It's the coaches' job to determine what system best fits the talents of his players and is most likely to produce the desired results. It's the players' job to play in those systems to the best of their ability. If AH had attended the minicamp as he was contractually obligated to do, he would have known about the 'Skins plans and this whole drama could have been avoided. The 'Skins have handled this exactly as they should have.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | August 7, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

i dont think he passed either. he's worth nothing in a trade with his bloated salary and i think he paid the coach off some of his 100 mil to get the players, fans and press off of his back!!

Posted by: astroman215aolcom | August 7, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

i dont think he passed either. he's worth nothing in a trade with his bloated salary and i think he paid the coach off some of his 100 mil to get the players, fans and press off of his back!!

Posted by: astroman215aolcom | August 7, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

"True, don't let the players 'run' the team, but try better communication with your players instead of trying to force your plan on them. Then if it does not work out, take out your whipping stick!"

It's easier to communicate when said player comes to MANDATORY camps.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | August 7, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Small step in the process of rebuilding this franchise. Good job by the coaching staff on this situation.

Posted by: magilla | August 7, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

YES!! I am so glad the man passed!! IMO, The defensive coach will use the man in the right way and all will benefit from it! Rotate the man along that line and rotate other players in and out of that d-line to keep him fresh and give other players a chance to show what they can do also!! We can go a long way this year by keeping the d-linemen fresh and in tune to the game! They will all need a break sometime and it is good for the backups to be able to come in and not miss a beat! Rotate to stay fresh. That is the key! BTW,F-Dallas!!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | August 7, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

"You're not keeping up, are you? The guy's fit. He's (apparently) motivated. And he has a coaching staff that he seems to trust. He has All Pro talents. Why would you trade him, now that he has the potential to become the player that we paid $100 million for?"

I think KingMe1 was just making a tongue-in-cheek comment about Snyder's history of truly terrible hiring decisions.

Posted by: anne_o_nymous | August 7, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

FA finally passed and appears sincerely interested in working with Haslett and playing a role in the new 3-4 D; Shanny maintained his reputation as a tough, but fair coach - earning the respect of the locker room; team appears to be jelling nicely on both sides of the ball. Still a long way to go, but a long way from where we were 12 mos ago.

How we perform against the Cowboys in the opener is a small part, as to how we'll perform overall this year. I'm more interested to see how we fare against the Giants in our first meeting. That will be the true test. If we can beat them, I feel we have a legit shot at 10-6. Otherwise, I don't think we'll be better than 7-9.

HTTR!!!

Posted by: Southernbelle_aurora | August 7, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

All I have to say....no matter what happens this year...

It will be better than last year.

Its the little things in life....

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | August 7, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

AH plays like a demented forklift
Fletcher and Orakpo continue their great play
McNabb (6 times in the Pro Bowl) seizes his last chance for glory
Trent Williams protects like a #1 pick
3 All-Pro running backs fighting for carries, working for
a coach who always had good running stats

August dreamin...

Posted by: ACounter | August 7, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

GO ALBERT!

Posted by: jhansel6 | August 7, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Classic good cop, bad cop move.

Is there any question now who is in control of the locker room?

Posted by: dannykurland1 | August 7, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Yes.

Posted by: Firuz1 | August 7, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

"Why would you trade him, now that he has the potential to become the player that we paid $100 million for?"

BWHAHAHAHAHAH

Way to go, impressive that you are stupid on two levels at once, really.

Posted by: dubya1938 | August 7, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

So he was sandbaggin it for the past week?

Posted by: chillsonic | August 7, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Holy Crap. Been out of the country and just flew in and saw some Skins video in the airport. Somebody fill me in, QUICK. From what I can tell Al Roker can't pass the Denver Broncos Coach's Physical Fitness test but he wants to play Defensive End for the Redskins if he can get out of his contract with the Today Show. Am I close? What the hell is going on? Oh and... CUCK IT DALLAS!

Posted by: WestCoastBullet | August 7, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

He passed the test, over a week after Shanahan planned it. The peanut gallery can now endlessly debate who won this encounter. It is probably a draw. Haynesworth was not going to win by protracting this thing, but neither was Shanahan. He passed it, but on his terms and after making sure that the defense was to his liking. Shanahan can portray himself as a hardline coach, but he will probably think twice before doing something like this again.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 7, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan asked to have 2 stopwatches used, 1 for each of the 300-yard runs, so he could verify the results. The watch for the first run was never started, showing a time of 0:00. The watch for the second run had Haynesworth covering the 300 yards in 11 seconds. Shanahan patted the timer on the back, winked and said it'll be our little secret.

Posted by: randysbailin | August 7, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I thought the question was, will he play nose guard as the coach wants or defensive end as player wants. Hm?

Posted by: newbridge | August 7, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

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