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Landry puts trade rumors behind him, prepares for new defense

Although safety LaRon Landry briefly left the Redskins' voluntary workout program, "everything is cool now."

After the Redskins' final minicamp practice Sunday, Landry for the first time addressed his feelings about hearing his name mentioned in trade speculation, discussed his evolving role in the Redskins' new 3-4 defense and characterized 2009 as a "disappointing season for me." Landry, who appears to have bulked up considerably, is focused on rebounding well in his fourth season.

"During that time, as far as a trade being concerned with me, I didn't take it as a negative thing or being upsetting," Landry said while walking off the field at Redskins Park. "I looked at it like this, 'There are other teams who wanted me.' They really wanted me. If the Skins wanted to give me up, I'd be gone by now. The only thing I did, I stepped back and thought of my next career move as a businessman. That didn't mean I stopped working or didn't want to be with the Skins. I was just thinking of my next business move. Talking with my agent and that was it. I wasn't mad or anything.

"I read ... I heard what [a reporter] was saying, but it wasn't that big of a deal to me. I just stepped back and said, 'Okay, if I'm gonna get traded, I'm gonna step back and let it pan out.' Wherever I was going, that's where I was going. As far as if the Eagles wanted me, I was going to the Eagles and I was going to be there. I didn't take it as anything being negative. It was just a business move. I let my agent handle everything. When everything calmed down, you see I'm here. I'm proud to be a Skin and I wouldn't trade it for anything. But if I was going to be traded, what was my next move?"

Landry has spent more time at the complex than during previous offseasons because "the 3-4 defense is new. My second year here, I knew the whole defense. I knew everything. I communicated with coach [Greg] Blache. Coach Blache was okay with me working out wherever I was working out at, and we communicated that. But as far this defense, it's a whole new thing. I need to be here and learn that.

"The whole thing is different. The 3-4 is way different than a 4-3. Different calls. I'm learning strong safety and free safety. But predominantly I am a strong safety. When the passing strength changes, I'm a free safety, so I need to learn everything. I want to know the whole defense. I want to be a leader back there. More vocal and by my athletic ability. I feel very comfortable in the defense so far. ... Looks like it's gonna be a fun year."

Landry added muscle in anticipation of playing in the box more often this season. He said he weighs about 230 pounds and plans to reach 240. In the 2009 Redskins media guide, Landry was listed at 210.

"Talking with the coaches, they was telling me I was gonna move back to strong safety, so that means I'd be in the box a little bit more," Landry said. "I wanted to put on a little weight so I could sustain that beating."

Landry struggled while primarily playing deep in the secondary last season. He was credited with 90 tackles, including 78 unassisted, but had only one interception and often was out of position on deep passes.

"Last year, it was disappointing season for me as a whole," Landry said. "I'm really not looking last year. I'm putting that way in the past. That's in the history books. But I'm looking forward to this season. The past is the past. I think I'm gonna have a great year this year."

The Redskins are counting on it, middle linebacker London Fletcher said.

"When LaRon was drafted, he was the number [six] pick in the draft, drafted as a strong safety," Fletcher said. "He's a great blitzer, great in the box, plays the run pretty good. When Sean Taylor passed, out of necessity he was forced to play free safety because he was the best free safety we had. Within this scheme his skill set suits the strong safety position and I think he can do a lot the way they're going to use him, just thinking of all the different things we'll be able to do with him."

By Jason Reid  |  April 18, 2010; 5:35 PM ET
Categories:  3-4 defense , Jason Reid  
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Comments

I am convinced they are going to draft Eric Berry now.

Posted by: 76ryan | April 18, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, how much bigger can that dude get?

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 18, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I am convinced they are going to draft Eric Berry now.

Posted by: 76ryan | April 18, 2010 5:50 PM

depends on what the coaches think Kareem Moore and Lendy Holmes have.

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 18, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

20 lbs of muscle? Picture that in terms of steak. Like tape 20 1lb steaks to your body, that's a lot.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | April 18, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

OMG they're gonna draft Berry at 4!


*more conjecture

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 18, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Like tape 20 1lb steaks to your body, that's a lot.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | April 18, 2010 6:10 PM

And you better be fast to outrun the pit bulls.

Posted by: League-Source | April 18, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Landry had a bad year last year, as did the Skins in general (it's not just a job, it's an infection)..But , we all know what he can do on the field, he can lay some wood, deliver the package..

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

the media guide had Landry listed at 210 because he was playing free safety. i believe that he's 230 now but was probably playing closer to 215-220 last year.

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 18, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

10-15 steaks is still a lot, though.

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 18, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

On the eve of the draft, a day of conjecture, interview, possible obsfucation, and clarification:

a.Landry puts trade rumors behind him, prepares for new defense

b.Kyle Shanahan says he's excited about Redskins' offensive line

c.Shanahan understands McIntosh's plight but hopes he'll come around soon

d.No matter what the front, Haslett's defense will emphasize forcing turnovers

e.Shanahan says Redskins have not discussed trading Haynesworth


'e' is the most interesting as the talk of trading Prince Al has created much in the way of disturbance in these parts.

So now we find that it's not true.

So where did the rumors come from?

'b' is hilarious enough to qualify as a post from mistamoe.

I wonder what D McNabb thinks about the prospect of S Heyer protecting his blindside.

'c' is the company line--you know the one where your boss encourages you to consider your options just before he goes into the room to interview your replacement.

'd', yeah, turnovers would be nice as would interceptions. But Haslet inherits a quality unit that would beneath from a shut down type corner or top nothc free safety.

Eric Berry can be both.

'a' is the admission that comes as apart of the 1st step on the road to recovery.

Landry is a pro bowl caliber strong safey.

Perhaps the position change will clear up any confusion about his ability.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 18, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

seeing the cash LL is stealing for taking poor angles and getting trucked over by Jacobs, and biting on double moves must make Taylor Mays smile with anticipation for his chances. Say it with me now, "Not all that!"

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 18, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

20 lbs of muscle? Picture that in terms of steak. Like tape 20 1lb steaks to your body, that's a lot.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | April 18, 2010 6:10 PM

I'll say... but I've heard (strictly insider rumor) that steak is good eatin'

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 18, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad they have finale figured ou that LL is a SS. But who is ging to play FS. Mabye Horton?

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

"But who is ging to play FS. Mabye Horton?"

I hope so, Horton can play.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | April 18, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Horton sems to be a ballhawk wich you have to be to be a FS. LL is a headhunter wich makes a great SS.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad they have finale figured ou that LL is a SS. But who is ging to play FS. Mabye Horton?

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 7:27 PM

I think Horton could play FS, but wonder whether he is a long term solution. seemed to be in and out of the doghouse for Blache, and don't remember the details... can anyone elaborate?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 18, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Kareem amoore was drafted as a FS.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Saw him on TV shirtless in the weight room on NFL.com a month ago. Rich Eisen actually gasped. THEN I said he could play LB

This is one of your new linebackers. He can cover short, blitz like a mad man and hold the fort. DON'T trade him, put him at LB.....

Posted by: TheCork | April 18, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Horton wa in th dog house. He got the starting job at SS in his rookie year when Doghty went down. He los th job the next year when Doughty came back.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Something tells me that Landry fails a random drug test some time in the next year. Hope he doesn't. But it scares me when I read about players bulking up and being so cut.

Posted by: MrDumberton | April 18, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

It's going to be a fun week watching Allen and Shanahan operate...

Redskins are putting out the word that they're taking a quarterback

Posted by Mike Florio on April 18, 2010 7:44 PM ET
As blue eyes throughout the league assume a deep shade of brown, here's the latest whopper that currently is making the rounds.

Per a league source, the Redskins are putting out the word that they plan to pick a quarterback with the fourth overall selection in round one.

The contention is being interpreted as a message that the Redskins won't be taking a quarterback, but they'd love to trade down with someone who wants a quarterback.

That said, there's still a chance that they'd take Sam Bradford if he squirts through to No. 4. But that's considered to be unlikely at this point.

Posted by: TWISI | April 18, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Landry had a bad year last year, as did the Skins in general (it's not just a job, it's an infection)..But , we all know what he can do on the field, he can lay some wood, deliver the package..

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

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what are you talking about?

Posted by: eaglesrule | April 18, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

he can lay some wood, deliver the package..

Posted by: frak

That's what your mom said.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 18, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

I think Horton could play FS, but wonder whether he is a long term solution. seemed to be in and out of the doghouse for Blache, and don't remember the details... can anyone elaborate?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 18, 2010 7:39 PM

Me, I wonder if Horton hears a moo.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 18, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

You guys see Mike Mayock call out JLC for talking about trading Big Ben? Got a little chippy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feZm-AK4HrE

Posted by: coachtanahan | April 18, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

"The contention is being interpreted as a message that the Redskins won't be taking a quarterback, but they'd love to trade down with someone who wants a quarterback."

The target of such a tease would seem to be the bills--a team that's been trying to replace Jim Kelly for what seems like a century.

We move down--get a pick along the way, draft T Williams--the bills move up, get Clausen.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 18, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

what are you talking about?

Posted by: eaglesrule

Really doooshbaig what are you doing on this site? Even if your handle and comments are just an expression of your desire to pissof skins fans, why don't you say anything insightful or clever?
Nothing you do is worth the attention of anyone with an IQ over 60, so just quit posting stoopid.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 18, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

"...he can lay some wood, deliver the package..."


This guy sounds like what would happen if you bred a well-endowned porn star with a UPS delivery guy.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 18, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Horton wa in th dog house. He got the starting job at SS in his rookie year when Doghty went down. He los th job the next year when Doughty came back.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 7:47 PM

right... it's coming back to me after suffering through the mediocrity of the past decade.

so Blache thought Doughty was better, but who fits best in the new scheme? no opinion here, but we definitely need a FS, and Landry is not it.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 18, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Reskins Draft 2010: 1; Russel Okung (hoefully) 2;Donivan McNabb (probowl quarterback) 3; Jeamy Jarmon (rookie DE that ha alreay started 2 NFL games) 4;? 5;? 6; wasted draftpick (Jason Taylor) 7;? Looks Dam' good so far.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

There are no blogs for guys who just had sex with a toaster, so frak posts about it here.

We could all learn something.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 18, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Look, unless someone develops quickly we don't have a FS. Doughty ain't, Moore ain't. We tried last year with the two of them and it didn't work. Not Blache's fault. If they are not awesome in camp, cut 'em and get someone who can cover a double move.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 18, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

JLC is an idiot it's not out of the realm of possibility that they trade Big Ben. No sh_t it's not out of the realm of possibility that the sun blows up tomorrow either.

JLC is a rumor hound he starts them quates fake sources, just like when he was here. He's wrong 95% of the time, in fact I don't ever remeber him breaking a story.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 18, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Me, I wonder if Horton hears a moo.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 18, 2010 8:05 PM

most calves prefer "Mr. Brown Can MOO! Can You?"

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 18, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

what are you talking about?

Posted by: eaglesrule

Nothing you do is worth the attention of anyone with an IQ over 60, so just quit posting stoopid.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | April 18, 2010 8:09 PM

So monkeymayonaise responds proving what we've suspected all along: his IQ is under 60. I'm guessing his wonderlic is about 8.

Posted by: League-Source | April 18, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

I thought we were talking football here.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

So monkeymayonaise responds proving what we've suspected all along: his IQ is under 60. I'm guessing his wonderlic is about 8.

Posted by: League-Source | April 18, 2010 8:27 PM

not so different in the big scheme... but 4-6 million years is a long time:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v421/n6921/images/nature01400-f1.2.jpg

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 18, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse


Yeah, Landry had a bad year last year, as did the Skins in general (it's not just a job, it's an infection)..But , we all know what he can do on the field, he can lay some wood, deliver the package..

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

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what are you talking about?

Posted by: eaglesrule | April 18, 2010 8:00 PM

Ask your mom.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

I thought we were talking football here.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 8:29 PM

just cleaning up after the weekend... football talk is scheduled for Thursday 7:30 PM.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 18, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the headsup MoodlyModlymoo aparently there is a lt of trash left over from last week.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

My computer is under a vicious IP censorship attack , so all I can say is F*** YOU and I'm outta here...

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

The thought of Heyer playing LT may stop McNabb from signing an extension. In which case the trade will have been a waste of draft choices.

Posted by: 4merskinsfan | April 18, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

I've not been around in a bit. Work, maps, and such as.

I still don't understand the McNabb trade.

(As in, I h8 it.)

Eric Berry as our first pic? Makes sense if we can't trade back and Okung is off the board.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 18, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

My computer is under a vicious IP censorship attack , so all I can say is F*** YOU and I'm outta here...

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 8:46 PM

really love you frak. but watch out for Chinese hackers and trojan horses from porn sites...

night all.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 18, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Heye wont't be playing LT this year. The Redskinswill come awaywith a tackle in this draft. Heyer may play RT this year bu only if he can win the job in camp. The red skins will bring in a few free agents after the draft to compete.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

My computer is under a vicious IP censorship attack , so all I can say is F*** YOU and I'm outta here...

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 8:46 PM

Thank God for the outta here part. You whine on like a bag of raped kittens.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | April 18, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I'll be back when ya'll want to talk football.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I'll be back when ya'll want to talk football.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 9:11 PM |

See ya Thursday.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

good player or not,i would rather not have a player with the nicname "dirty landry"on the skins.those kind of players can cost you more games then win them.

Posted by: DLESMonday | April 18, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

LARON LANDRY IS A BUM

The guys at Profootballfocus.com have LaRon Landry ranked 84 out of 87 safeties in the NFL that played at least 25% of their team's snaps.

Opposing QBs throwing into LL30's coverage had a cumulative QB rating of 139.8.

Get over his size and athleticism. He is Roy Williams 2.0. We need to trade him NOW in order to get any value from him before he gets further exposed in 2010 for being a 1-dimensional blitzing safety and is relegated to being a part-time player.

That's if the moron doesn't blow out a knee in training camp. 240 pounds?? What is he thinking?? He's pretty much a 3-4 OLB at 240. Has he ever played at that weight?

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Kiper looks like the snobby octopus on Sponge Bob Square Pants.

Posted by: dcsween | April 18, 2010 9:07 PM |

I can't believe you've maligned Squidward like that.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 18, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

You guys see Mike Mayock call out JLC for talking about trading Big Ben? Got a little chippy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feZm-AK4HrE

Posted by: coachtanahan | April 18, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse


The book is pretty much out on JLa.

Everyone now gets to see what all of us at RI have known for years.

JLa is a muck-raking runor-monger with no access to anyone anywhere who makes a name for himself by being a controversial turd with goofy glasses.

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

""Shanahan said he's aware the group has faced criticism for its play the past few seasons.

"I don't see it on tape and I don't see it out on the field. I think we got some real good players," he said. ""


There you have it, boys. The problem was officially not with the Oline - which means the problem was with Jason Campbell.

Does the Jason Campbell Defense Union have anything to say? Or is it now a defunct organization?

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

They're going to draft Taylor Mays at #4! $nyder pictures him as another Sean Taylor. It's a logical bridge in $nyder's mind: Sean Taylor...Taylor Mays. Hey, he has Taylor in his name, so $nyder must think he's good. $nyder thinks, and Shan Jr. relays that the O-Line doesn't need fixing. O-Lineman don't sell jerseys. Sexy positions do. Taylor Mays at 4!

Posted by: HawksPride | April 18, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

p1funk

"We need to trade him (L Landry) NOW in order to get any value from him before he gets further exposed in 2010 for being a 1-dimensional blitzing safety and is relegated to being a part-time player."


So what kind of value can be obtained for the type of player you describe here?

I'd say, very little.

This is even more so when like outside linebacking, safeties are a dime a dozen, so why would you give up a pick?

Which is why you'd have to balance the little in return you'd get for trading Landry against the value he might add to your scheme.

And if his job is to simply play strong safety, and blitz, I'd say that's of greater value than you describe.

The better argument and point to be made is that L Landry, like J Campbell, and C Rogers, is another 1st round bust from the mid/late-2000s draft pool.

The sad thing is that they are all redskins.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 18, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Saw him on TV shirtless in the weight room on NFL.com a month ago. Rich Eisen actually gasped. THEN I said he could play LB

This is one of your new linebackers. He can cover short, blitz like a mad man and hold the fort. DON'T trade him, put him at LB.....

Posted by: TheCork | April 18, 2010 7:43 PM


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I saw that video as well. You don't nail it often when it comes to fubball, but well done here!

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Does the Jason Campbell Defense Union have anything to say? Or is it now a defunct organization?

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 9:46 PM |
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Sure do!

How about "You are a fvckin' moron?"
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 18, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

"Heyer may play RT this year, but only if he can win the job in camp."

Artis Hicks was the right tackle with the 1st unit during the mini camp.

And he'll be starting there come Sept.

The battle is one for left tackle: I'd say a rookie is going to start there.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 18, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

The key is getting our cornerstone LT in the draft. If we do that, I agree we can have a decent O line.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 18, 2010 9:22 PM


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I apologize for bringing it up, but remember the two JC17 videos(Casserly and Clutch).

The importance of those videos is not so much an indictment of Campbell, who has played well before but is very inconsistent, but rather an indication that our putrid O-line can actually provide pass protection.

I think that is what Kyle Shanahan saw on tape and that is what he was referring to when expressing excitement over our O-line.

I'm still on the pick LT at 4 band wagon as I see that as our biggest weakness to date.

It will be damn hard to pass up on Rolando McClain, though.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

They're going to draft Taylor Mays at #4! $nyder pictures him as another Sean Taylor. It's a logical bridge in $nyder's mind: Sean Taylor...Taylor Mays. Hey, he has Taylor in his name, so $nyder must think he's good. $nyder thinks, and Shan Jr. relays that the O-Line doesn't need fixing. O-Lineman don't sell jerseys. Sexy positions do. Taylor Mays at 4!

Posted by: HawksPride | April 18, 2010 9:48 PM |

This may be the stupidest post of the day.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Does the Jason Campbell Defense Union have anything to say? Or is it now a defunct organization?

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 9:46 PM |
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Sure do!

How about "You are a fvckin' moron?"
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 18, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse


There they are!

The Jason Campbell Defense Union rolls out with one of those typically saavy and thoughtful counterpoints.

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

scampbell:

You're in denial. Face your fears, and realize $nyder for who he is: a heartless bastard. Riggo said as much, so it must be true!

Posted by: HawksPride | April 18, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

This may be the stupidest post of the day.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 9:59 PM |
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I'm close to agreement, but the day is still young.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 18, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 18, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse


Obviously if there's no value for him, then you can't trade him.

LL30 himself seemed to allude to the notion that there were other teams out there interested in him - not sure if that was him talking out of his backside or what.

You still may be able to ship him out to some team who sees his athleticism, believes that the Skins misused him last year, and at 25 years old thinks they can salvage him.

Basically you hope to find a sucker...

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

scampbell:

You're in denial. Face your fears, and realize $nyder for who he is: a heartless bastard. Riggo said as much, so it must be true!

Posted by: HawksPride | April 18, 2010 10:01 PM |

Whateves dude, you've lost it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

p1funk and to all the other Landry haters,

relax on the trade him crap.

Please list your top safeties in the league and check out their average age.

Ima keep drilling this until I start getting some acknowledgment: Members of the secondary TYPICALLY(yes there are exceptions) don't reach their primes until late 20's.

Our secondary is young. Give them time.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

The Jason Campbell Defense Union rolls out with one of those typically saavy and thoughtful counterpoints.

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:01 PM |
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Would you care to tell the assembled crowd how many times you voted for G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney in presidential elections?
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 18, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

It will be damn hard to pass up on Rolando McClain, though.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse


???

No it won't.

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

The Jason Campbell Defense Union rolls out with one of those typically saavy and thoughtful counterpoints.

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:01 PM |
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Would you care to tell the assembled crowd how many times you voted for G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney in presidential elections?
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 18, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse


Once. I voted for Ralph Nader the other time.

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

p1funk and to all the other Landry haters,

relax on the trade him crap.

Please list your top safeties in the league and check out their average age.

Ima keep drilling this until I start getting some acknowledgment: Members of the secondary TYPICALLY(yes there are exceptions) don't reach their primes until late 20's.

Our secondary is young. Give them time.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse


What kind of argument is this?

What football players at which position don't typically reach their prime until their late 20's?

So we just live with LL30 getting cooked in coverage for the next couple of years?

I don't need a "top" safety. Just an average one.

You know...something a little better than 84th out of 87...

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Once. I voted for Ralph Nader the other time.

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:10 PM |
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Case rested.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 18, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

So that's twice.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 18, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

What kind of argument is this?

What football players at which position don't typically reach their prime until their late 20's?

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:14 PM

Meant to say late 20's into early 30's.

Running Backs, O-linemen, TE's, and DT's typically play better at younger ages than at older ages.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

IMO, Laron can be a great player if he would learn how to tackle!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | April 18, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Once. I voted for Ralph Nader the other time.

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:10 PM |
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Case rested.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 18, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse


Who did you vote for?

Is this relevant to anything that has to do with Jason Campbell?

Do your thoughts connect in a logically coherent fashion that makes sense to anyone but yourself?

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

What kind of argument is this?

What football players at which position don't typically reach their prime until their late 20's?

So we just live with LL30 getting cooked in coverage for the next couple of years?

I don't need a "top" safety. Just an average one.

You know...something a little better than 84th out of 87...

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:14 PM

Not to prop up Landry but it sounded today like he would be used a lot nore at SS from here on out. We shouldn't have to suffer his coveraqe skills too much anymore...hopefully.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

QBs, CBs, Safeties, a Kickers/Punters can sustain a high level of play into their mid 30's. That's the main point p1funk.

In terms of NFL careers, our secondary is extremely young.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

IMO, Laron can be a great player if he would learn how to tackle!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | April 18, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse


And cover...

And learn to not jump every route...

And chill out on the late hits and penalties...

But yeah, if he could just nail those things down - tackling, covering, not getting faked on routes and discipline - then he'd be a GREAT player.

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Case rested.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 18, 2010 10:19 PM |

Hysterical

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Russel Okung, Derik Dockery, Casey Rabach, Mike Williams, Stephen Heyer or any free agent that can win the job. Not a great OL but a good OL.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

QBs, CBs, Safeties, a Kickers/Punters can sustain a high level of play into their mid 30's. That's the main point p1funk.

In terms of NFL careers, our secondary is extremely young.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse


OK. We went from late 20's to mid 30's in this discussion. That's a sizeable chunk of football life.

I'd rather get back a high pick than suffer through 4 more years of Laron Landry's wildly inconsistent play before he hits his prime and chills out.

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:14 PM

Not to prop up Landry but it sounded today like he would be used a lot nore at SS from here on out. We shouldn't have to suffer his coveraqe skills too much anymore...hopefully.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse


It's not just about how we want to use him; it's about how offenses will try to exploit him.

After 3 years in the league, the book is out on LL30 - great blitzer, but couldn't cover his grandmother with a blanket if he found her napping on the couch.

Offenses are going to attack him - the way Oakland did last year, when we desperately tried to get him out of coverage situations, only to see Oakland split out Darren McFadden as a receiver and burn Landry in coverage anyhow.

This whole talk of using LL30 to get to the QB and hopefully mask his inability to cover reminds me of Adam Archuleta - how did that work out?

Not to mention that if the model of our new defense is Pittsburgh, then that means our SS should ideally be a Troy Polamalou type player who weighs in at 207 and covers like spandex.

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse


OK. We went from late 20's to mid 30's in this discussion. That's a sizeable chunk of football life.

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:33 PM

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Late 20's to early 30's = 28-32. Note: I said they reach their prime around this age.

***IN ADDITION*** CB's and Safeties sustain a high level of play into mid 30's MORE OFTEN THAN OTHER POSITIONS. do you disagree with that? Our secondary is young, considering they potentially have another 8 to 10 years left in the tank.

Don't straw-man my main point, please. I'm starting to understand why no1 can continue discussions with you. Stop the straw-man techniques.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Alright, computer's better, never leave allies or family on the negative note...But I might have to stick my K-Bar through that scampbell1975's skull just on principle...The reason people are lined up and shot...

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Who did you vote for?

Is this relevant to anything that has to do with Jason Campbell?

Do your thoughts connect in a logically coherent fashion that makes sense to anyone but yourself?

Posted by: p1funk | April 18, 2010 10:24 PM |
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1) Al Gore, John Kerry.

2) Yes, my point is that you are incapable of using reason and history to arrive at common sense conclusions.

You create "your own reality".

3) Quite a few, actually. The majority of voters in the 2006 and 2008 elections, for example.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | April 18, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

It sounds t me like Jim Haslet(a very smart D-coordnator) has moved LL to SS and may use him at ILB but who is going to play FS. We can not spend our 1rd draf pick on anything other than a LT. So our FS has to come from within.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the internet, we love freedom of speech, the mighty playing field of Liberation , of God, is its got these miniscule minded arrogant d*cks like scampi, SO LETS JUST F*C*IN' DEESTROYYY!! yeah, they put me on defense, I can bust some sh*t up...

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Oh and great thread on Portis earlier.

I've realized here on RI that any player with a big contract is considered a cancer. Nobody criticized Portis when he was having great seasons for us. Never heard complaints about his contract or personality(which hasn't changed, btw)

Better get used to the Contract Complainers, and I'll refrain from mentioning their names, because once the new CBA implements a rookie salary cap, all the veterans will be getting the huge contracts even if their play declines a little. It's called loyalty, for what the veteran has done for your team!

Go Portis! One of the toughest players in the league. Ask Madden.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Okay, I just cracked open a Chelada, and I'm more mellow now...Scampi, you really need to work on that "Napolean"-gotta-be-in-control complex you got, I don't know if the rabbi slipped when he was circumsizing you , or if it's just too much microwave oven, but theres a Twelve-Step program for your problem somewhere, guaranteed to drive you to the needle...

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

What I love about the internet is that everytime I get on here I say Oh frac.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Alright, computer's better, never leave allies or family on the negative note...But I might have to stick my K-Bar through that scampbell1975's skull just on principle...The reason people are lined up and shot...

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 10:50 PM |

Ooooh, a big tough, blogroom toughguy. I'd like to see you give it a try. I'll shove that thing so far up your wife's ass it'll cut off your daddies dik.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Starting to wonder how good Bradford is gonna be.

No doubt he woulda been the 1st pick last year had he come out following that stellar junior season.

One year and an injury later, he is still gonna be the 1st pick.

That's pretty damn impressive.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey you remember the time, remember the time we took that snake and we put it down little Betsy's dress?

I don't think Miss Axelrod is much impressed today either.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 18, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

It sounds t me like Jim Haslet(a very smart D-coordnator) has moved LL to SS and may use him at ILB but who is going to play FS. We can not spend our 1rd draf pick on anything other than a LT. So our FS has to come from within.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 10:54 PM | Report

Kareem Moore was drafted as a FS. I believe Lendy Holmes is also a FS.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh by the way frak, that's the second time you've threatened me. When you gonna back up all that tough talk buddy? I'll make it real easy for you to find me if you really want to prove how tough you are. I doubt it though. Chatroom tough guys like you ain't nuthin' but sexually abused little puss!es talkin' trash from the safety of your mommas skirts. Step up big man. You ain't got a hair on your nutz if you don't.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Taylor Mays would have been a top ten pick last year. I never heard anything bad about his pass coverage in discussions of him entering the draft after his junior season.

He decided to stay and USC lost at least 4 starters on that defense to the NFL. Taylor had more run responsibilities his senior year and his coverage suffered.

Call me crazy, but I think Taylor Mays is gonna be good. And apparently he is gonna be a steal for a playoff contending team...Damn.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Kareem Moore was drafted as a FS. I believe Lendy Holmes is also a FS.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 11:31 PM


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I like Moore at FS. His interception of Drew Brees was a great play. Unfortunately he got stripped.

But he also fits into the too young to give up on category. Mofos drive me crazy when they criticize young talent. Imagine if we had cut Tryon after his forgettable rookie year. No one, including me, saw his second year improvement coming.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Come on frak, you little truck stop cross dresser. Where's your big bad mouth now? Probably filled with c0ck right about now. Or maybe sh!t. You seem like that type of dude. Your life must be a huge joke, threatening people from behind a keyboard. You have sunk to the cowardly low of lows. I guess guys like you have to feel like a big man somewhere since you usually play a little girl at home. I'm glad the WaPo gave you a forum to spew your scared little rants and threaten people with no fear of retribution. You won't back it up though. Pillow biting reach around queens like you never do.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

But he also fits into the too young to give up on category. Mofos drive me crazy when they criticize young talent. Imagine if we had cut Tryon after his forgettable rookie year. No one, including me, saw his second year improvement coming.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 11:41 PM |

No such thing as too young in my book. Just to be clear, I was one of those that gave up on Tryon after his rookie year. Luckily for us he has begun to prove me wrong.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

scamppbell1975, I like the way you're thinking. We have aload of safties one has to be able to be able to play FS. If not lets get rid of one and get one that can.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Peace and HAIL!!!

I'll see you later frag...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 18, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Come on frak, you little truck stop cross dresser. Where's your big bad mouth now? Probably filled with c0ck right about now. Or maybe sh!t. You seem like that type of dude. Your life must be a huge joke, threatening people from behind a keyboard. You have sunk to the cowardly low of lows. I guess guys like you have to feel like a big man somewhere since you usually play a little girl at home. I'm glad the WaPo gave you a forum to spew your scared little rants and threaten people with no fear of retribution. You won't back it up though. Pillow biting reach around queens like you never do.

Posted by: scampbell1975


What gets me , scamp, is that I'll say far less obnoxious things and will be readily censored by the Post editors..I've been PHYSICALLY IN SPACE AND REALTIME baited by a**holes like you for years, you are all part of the power structure, kneejerk fascist tools to maintain the power status quo, REAL freedom of speech is a threat to the idiots in charge, and tools like you are a dime a dozen, unlike me...

Posted by: frak | April 18, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

scamppbell1975, I like the way you're thinking. We have aload of safties one has to be able to be able to play FS. If not lets get rid of one and get one that can.

Posted by: cjpiper | April 18, 2010 11:50 PM


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Greg Blands scheme didn't help either.

Heard Eli Manning say once that our defense pretty much plays the same every play. We never gave a different look to opposing offenses and if, 'big if' we blitzed, Eli knew where it was coming from.

Posted by: Vicc | April 18, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

I have a question frak:

In your opinion, How much power does the president really have?

Curious, cuz I've always wondered/questioned it myself.

Posted by: Vicc | April 19, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

I read scampbell1975 this last time, and made him for a Post editorial cleaner....Sorry I don't live up to your Masonic ideals, boys...

Posted by: frak | April 19, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/18/the-underage-drinking-component-of-the-roethlisberger-case/

Mike Floreo has answered my frustrations on why Big Ben was not charged with furnishing alcohol to a minor under 21.

Because they would've had to charge the woman for underaged drinking. I agree She suffered enough without having to pay for under-aged drinking.

Big Ben's lawyer, Michael Santicola, is a complete jerk as well.

He says:
"The only crime that I've seen committed right now is the crime of this girl. She's underage, she's bombed out of her mind and she's in a bar she shouldn't be in."

I wish the court of public opinion would vilify Lawyers who defend scum.

Posted by: Vicc | April 19, 2010 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 19, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

phook yer doomed mediaaaaaaaaa......phook yer doomed mediaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....

Posted by: frak | April 19, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Relax now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yLXIy-ZXgU&feature=related

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 19, 2010 12:21 AM


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hard to relax when
some comments suggest many were SMACKED outta their minds during that concert. Not you of course, lol.

Posted by: Vicc | April 19, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

JLa is a muck-raking runor-monger with no access to anyone anywhere who makes a name for himself by being a controversial turd with goofy glasses.

Posted by: p1funk |

Says the guy commenting in the comments section on a guy who used to write for the Post, and now works for NFL Network. Be sure to copy him on your comments, I'm sure it will break his heart knowing you think so little of his efforts.

Posted by: TheCork | April 19, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

hard to relax when
some comments suggest many were SMACKED outta their minds during that concert. Not you of course, lol.

Posted by: Vicc | April 19, 2010 12:42 AM

Some comments are sure to insist that this is somehow racist napalm. Ignore them. They're as dumb as your parents were.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 19, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

How incredibly stupid do you have to be to pop for pakalolo on a piss test which you knew the exact date you were going to be administered months in advance?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=5111130

In the same story, FoxSports.com reported that USC tight end Anthony McCoy tested positive at the combine for marijuana.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 19, 2010 1:23 AM | Report abuse

FBI-IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIeye warning,
Lawsuit-swarmingggggg,
YEEEEEEEEHAAWWW!!!!!!!!

Posted by: frak | April 19, 2010 1:39 AM | Report abuse

I'm seein' Donovan McNabb in burgundy and gold and still not believin' it...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 19, 2010 5:43 AM | Report abuse

I dunno,

I kinda like this "frak" character.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 19, 2010 5:54 AM | Report abuse

After reading what Mini-Me Shanaman said about the offensive line I'm seein' Donovan McNabb on his back sayin' what hit me?
Buyers remorse Donovan?

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | April 19, 2010 5:57 AM | Report abuse

After reading what Mini-Me Shanaman said about the offensive line I'm seein' Donovan McNabb on his back sayin' what hit me?
Buyers remorse Donovan?


Posted by: 2ndtierfan | April 19, 2010 5:57 AM

This time of year, coaches aren't to be believed. PFT says the word is going around that the Skins are gonna take a QB at #4...which all but ensures that we'll take Okung or another OT at that spot.

So when you hear Kyle Shanahan say that he likes the tackles here and that all 3 of the "Over the Hill RBs" will not only make the final roster but play quite a bit, it's a pretty safe bet that he's saying the complete opposite of what is true.

Wow...coaches that disguise their actual intentions. Good to have a pro staff again...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 19, 2010 6:07 AM | Report abuse

Wow...coaches that disguise their actual intentions. Good to have a pro staff again...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 19, 2010 6:07 AM |

True! But the only one they've fooled by that particular gambit was 2ndtierfan who just came back from outer space. Here's what Peter King wrote about Shanahan and Allen this morning: "At four, Washington's Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan are championship smokescreeners or simply uninformative."

Posted by: League-Source | April 19, 2010 6:12 AM | Report abuse

After reading what Mini-Me Shanaman said about the offensive line I'm seein' Donovan McNabb on his back sayin' what hit me?
Buyers remorse Donovan?

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | April 19, 2010 5:57 AM

If you liked this one, you need to come back later today. We've got this guy, BeantownGreg1, who has a hot line to PFT. You'll get some real inside information from him, even before Mike Florio gets it. Stay tuned, sukka.

Posted by: League-Source | April 19, 2010 6:24 AM | Report abuse

beep

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 19, 2010 6:44 AM | Report abuse

that skins show on comcast has a weightroom camera, and landry is ridiculously big now. Like, too big to play safety. We'll see

Posted by: divi3 | April 19, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

I dont know what the redskins are gonna do but if u thinking about drafting eric berry who is a good talent at pick 4!! YOU are the worst franchise in history. In order to win games u need a good oline to protect the QB. Stack up on oline depth and LB's b/c of the 3/4 and CB"S maybe maybe a fast scat back at RB

Posted by: chinngy23 | April 19, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

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