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Albert Haynesworth MRI shows no structural damage

Updated at 6:40 p.m

An MRI exam Thursday of Albert Haynesworth's irritated knee revealed no structural damage, and the Redskins are hopeful the Pro Bowl defensive lineman will be at full strength soon, people familiar with the situation said.

Haynesworth missed the 13th practice session of the Redskins training camp Thursday morning. The knee problem, which developed late last week, has prevented him from taking the conditioning test Shanahan requires of players who missed more than half of the offseason workouts.

"We're giving him an MRI today because his knee has been a little bit sore, more sore than it has been in the past," Shanahan said, speaking before Haynesworth underwent the MRI. "In the past, every third or fourth day it'd be a little sore, according to the trainers. But now it's been a couple days consistently sore...We're going to MRI it, see if he's okay and then we'll go through the rehab work to get it stronger."

Haynesworth spent the entire morning practice session on the field, watching his teammates. He then spent more than 20 minutes after the practice working with defensive coordinator Jim Haslett, defensive line coach Jacob Burney and strength and conditioning coach Ray Wright. Haynesworth hit a blocking sled and several tackling dummies, in addition to working on concepts of the Redskins' new 3-4 defense.

The work appeared to be the most intense and advanced of any of Haynesworth's previous individual workouts throughout camp. Despite that, Shanahan said he did not know when Haynesworth would be able to take the conditioning test.

"We'll just wait and see," Shanahan said. "That's why he gets treatment. He was out there doing individual work today and was a lot further ahead today than I thought he would be. So today it surprised me how well he did during the drill work so we'll just wait and see."

When pressed on the need to get Haynesworth into the rotation in practice so that he might be able to play in preseason games, Shanahan reiterated that his goal was to have Haynesworth practicing and healthy throughout the whole season - not just for training camp. Essentially, he said, the routine of Haynesworth skipping practice during the week but playing in games has ended.

"If you take a look at last year how many games he played without practicing, we're going to make sure that he can practice so he can stay healthy and play at a very high level," Shanahan said. "I've got all the stats in there how many games he played where he didn't practice throughout the whole week. ... If you don't practice you're not going to play well. You've got to practice well to play well. That's what the NFL and football is all about.

"Every once in a while you might get a guy in there that practices a little bit and has a good game but if you don't practice consistently it's hard to play consistently. And that's what I'm after. I'm after him playing well for the whole season."

By Paul Tenorio and Jason Reid  |  August 5, 2010; 6:40 PM ET
Categories:  3-4 defense , Albert Haynesworth , Mike Shanahan  
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Comments

Hmm...

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 5, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

The funniest bust was that one of Dwight Eisenhower they had hanging over a doorway like a hunting trophy.."We got the Eisenhower on safari back in 62..The Potomac Wilderness was pretty wild back then.."

Posted by: frak | August 5, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

..On display at the Kennedy Center..my bad..

Posted by: frak | August 5, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

yep

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 5, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

See if you can find his balls or brains while you're in there . . .

Posted by: Corvis777 | August 5, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Darn.

Looks like Shanny knew what he was doing after all in regards to Fat Al nad keeping him from hurting himself.

Dumb WP reporters. :P

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 5, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

First comes the MRI and then next comes the scope on the knee. AH won't be running any tests for a few weeks...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 5, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Better get him an enema, too... he's so full of SJK.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 5, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the desappearing thread, I guess when it comes to Fat Albert Haynesworth, MRI stands for:

-Mega-Rich Individual

-Must Rest Indoors

-Mostly Retarded Idiot

-Make Redskins Irrelevant

.....and my favorite


Meager Return on Investment


Thank you.

(Sorry, I HAD to)

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 5, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Shanny is right...I practice everyday...and I'm pretty darn good.

Posted by: PlayAction | August 5, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

wait, I thought that Shanny wanted an apology, and this would all go away??? weird.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 5, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

wait, I thought that Shanny wanted an apology, and this would all go away??? weird.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 5, 2010 1:16 PM
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An apology and then you have to rub some dirt on it.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 5, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

"Has Donovan been accused of texting pics of his wang??"


I took a picture of my wang.

I'd show you, but someone stole the photo, sold it, and now it's on a box of Minute Rice.

Why?

'Cuz that's how long it performed.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 5, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I've had an MRI. No way he fits inside the thing. Maybe not even an Open Thing.

Posted by: bethesdaguy | August 5, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Apparently you can really mess yourself up by spending so much time on one knee with your helmet in your hand. Who knew?

Posted by: yatesc1 | August 5, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

So...this is great...coach thinks you are dogging it...AND you prove it by doing individual drills at a pretty good pace. SO, that knee that has kept you from completing your "test" is not hurting enough to hamper your performance...If he gets the MRI and it we find that there is no issue with the knee he is seen as the consumate loyal teammate that is ready to fall in line with the new coaching philosophy..right! AND if there is a problem with the knee...we can stick him on IR, save a roster spot...and get on with camp...WIN WIN...nice job coach!

Posted by: shanahananigans | August 5, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

AH is going to do as little as possible and collect as much as he can. Luckily he isn't very bright. The Redskins need to show they are getting scammed.

Posted by: adrian7 | August 5, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Wow, great investment there Danny!

Posted by: UnknownHenson | August 5, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

The MRI is to call his bluff

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | August 5, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I seriously doubt AH goes on the IR right away if he is hurt, unless it is concrete enough that he'll be gone for the season. But if it does, the AH trade will go down as the biggest bust for a year ever!

Posted by: Veretax | August 5, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I would hope Russ would be presented by Gibbs or Bugel or even one of the "Hoggs" and not someone from the Arizon team--that would be the iceing on the cake. Does anyone know who will be prenting Russ??

Posted by: vergens2 | August 5, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Let the Milking begin... I said the other day that this ends one of two ways....We get the very same baconsworth as last year, coming off winded after every other play. Or he gets IR for the season at some point and is told to stay away. they will not cut him and eat the money it can only be one of the other I mentioned above.

Just curious that if he didn't have to past that conditioning test, i would bet that he would be practicing. Just my opinion. Knee is an excuse not to do the test and somebody will have to blink here.

I am with you shanny whatever you decide to do. Be the Boss and do what's best for the team, not one fat, self absorbed turd in the pool.

Posted by: klangley69 | August 5, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Ahhhh.the magic words.....
"If you take a look at last year how many games he played without practicing, we're going to make sure that he can practice so he can stay healthy and play at a very high level," Shanahan said. "I've got all the stats in there how many games he played where he didn't practice throughout the whole week. ... If you don't practice you're not going to play well. You've got to practice well to play well. That's what the NFL and football is all about. "
So the major bug up Shanny's butt is the lack of practice time that Fat Albert put in last year. Well that's Zorn and Blatche's fault for letting him lollygag around in practice and games. Shanny's saying he's going to go into the game and stay there....no more in for two plays and come out gassed. Love it!

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | August 5, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

But they should have something. With Global climate Change they're liable to find lightning storms with raccoon-sized hail one of these days.

Posted by: TheCork | August 5, 2010 6:40 PM |

Does this mean that Skins fans should abstain from invoking "Hail to the Redskins", at least during training camp, because players could get hurt. Them raccoons are pretty pretty pretty big critters.

Posted by: Yammerstein | August 5, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

IT'S BACK...SICWIDIT's POLL-O-THE-WEEK!!!

1) Who should be in the Hall of Fame first:

a) Pat Fischer
b) Chris Hanburger
c) Joe Jacoby
d) Jim Lachey

2) Which of the following Redskins who were cut last year should we have kept for another season?

a) Rock Cartwright
b) Cornelius Griffin
c) Fred Smoot
d) Ladell Betts
e) none of those scrubs

3) Who's the biggest Redskins hater?

a) Brian Mitchell
b) Peter King
c) Lavar Arrington
d) John Riggins

4) Best rant by coach/manager

a) Hal McCrae with the Cubs
b) We 'talkin bout practice' (AI)
c) Mike Singletary ("I want winners")
d) "You play to win the game" (Herm Edwards
e) "PLAYOFFS!!!!" (Mora)

5) I'd rather go shoe shopping with my wife than:

a) watch Arena football
b) watch the WNBA
c) watch Poker on TV
d) watch tennis

6) Who's the "Summer 2010 jackAZZ"?

a) Lebron James
b) Brett Favre
c) Albert Haynesworth

7) It's 4th and 2...who are you handing the ball off to?

a) Earl Campbell
b) John Riggins
c) Walter Payton

8) I can put my hands on one of the following albums in the next 10 minutes:

a) Pete Seegar
c) Bee Gees
d) Paliament Funkadelic
e) Doobie Brothers

9) What was funnier (in a sad way)?

a) Spurrier referring to Jim Haslett as "Jim HAYSLETT"
b) Zorn's swinging gate play
c) Pepper Rodgers


Have at it

Posted by: rickyroge | August 5, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TWISI | August 5, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

http://www.espn980.com/audiovault/#

For those who care to, listen to the Cliff Russell August 5th interview on the John Thompson show. Doc shares some of his conversation with AH.

Posted by: TWISI | August 5, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I took a picture of my wang.

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

(Sorry, I HAD to)

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Wow, great investment there Danny!

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

He is at full strength now....full milking strenght...fat loser!

Posted by: klangley69 | August 5, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

this was just a rehash post, NEXT

Posted by: BMACattack | August 5, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

He is at full strength now....full milking strength...fat loser!

Posted by: klangley69 | August 5, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

raccoons are pretty pretty pretty big critters

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

major bug up Shanny's butt

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

1) Who should be in the Hall of Fame first:

c) Joe Jacoby

2) Which of the following Redskins who were cut last year should we have kept for another season?

e) none of those scrubs

3) Who's the biggest Redskins hater?

d) John Riggins (heart of darkness)

4) Best rant by coach/manager
TIED
d) "You play to win the game" (Herm Edwards
e) "PLAYOFFS!!!!" (Mora)

5) I'd rather go shoe shopping with my wife than:

b) watch the WNBA


6) Who's the "Summer 2010 jackAZZ"?

b) Brett Favre (dude even pissed off his agent. Lebron's been a crabwalking jackazz for years)


7) It's 4th and 2...who are you handing the ball off to?

DIESEL!

8) I can put my hands on one of the following albums in the next 10 minutes:

d) Paliament Funkadelic


9) What was funnier (in a sad way)?

b) Zorn's swinging gate play (honorable mention: Spurrier's "hindsight is 50/50")

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 5, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Albert Haynesworth MRI shows no structural damage
Updated at 6:40 p.m

What a surprise. It brings up the possibility that the dude might be faking an injury. So what's next?

1. With a few more days of healing time he takes the test, passes it, and the drama ends.

2. With a few more days of healing time he takes the test and fails it. So far the past failures have been due to a potty break and a knee injury. What excuse will there be this time? The excuse will require more credibility than the past two if AH is to have any leg to stand on in court of public opinion.

3. The dude pleads "no mas" and refuses to take the test, maintaining his knee cannot withstand the rigors of the test, leaving the next move up to Shanahan. Will this strategy push Shanny over the edge and result in one of the following?

1. AH is cut.
2. AH is traded to some other team for a 6th round draft pick. Or a ham sandwich.
3. AH is exiled to some desert island like the PUP list, left in solitude to stew in his own juices, which prompts the player's union to interject itself into an already over the top drama. And mebbe Snyder's lawyers will join the fray also to see if they can claw back some of the $21 M in coin that the Skins put in AH's piggy bank back in April.

Posted by: Yammerstein | August 5, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

What a surprise.

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

NEXT

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

No structural damage, just an out of shape slob with no incentive to actually pass the conditioning test.

His reward for passing the test...2 a days.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 5, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I hear fat albert was in the bathroom so long because mitch mcconnell was trying to blhow him.

Posted by: OldSalt8 | August 5, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Yammerstein how are you equating no structural damage to the knee, as to AH not having a knee problem?

With AH working early and often with Ray Wright, I am confident that AH will get to be in his best "football" condition for some time. Once he gets to that point, Shanny will give AH a couple of days off of working with Ray to calm the knee down, maybe give the battery of shots AH got last offseason. At that point, AH will take the test and get on the field. However, if this happens before the first preseason game I'd be surprised.

Kyle Shanahan is my favorite hire this offseason. I think Ray Wright is my second favorite hiring.

Posted by: TWISI | August 5, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

AH is the highest maintenance player the skins have ever had.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 5, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

blhow him

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

AH is the highest maintenance player the skins have ever had.

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Exactly. And stop talking about how DL don't ever have to run 300 yards. That's not the point. Physical endurance directly translates to performance on the field. Short bursts add up over time to, get this, a long series of short bursts - much like runing a sprint!! wow imagine that.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | August 5, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

This fat, lazy, no good punk has the Skins over a barrel. He took their money...$21million of it, and he's going to do what he wants (nothing), when he wants it, and nobody can make him do anything. Bench him? are you kidding?? that's what he wants!! keeps the money and doesn't have to work for it..doesn't get banged up, just sits there...big deal. You think he cares?
Make him play? Are you kidding?? MAKE him play? shoot, he'll take a knee, or go half-speed. This has got to be the worst...worst deal ever made by a professional team.

Posted by: scmonty1 | August 5, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

At that point, AH will take the test and get on the field.

Posted by: TWISI | August 5, 2010 7:39 PM |

Dude could have passed the test the first time he took it. The potty break shti was his way of saying to Shanny "I'll see you and raise you" which gave Shanny (at least in his own mind) no choice but to fail him.

Posted by: Yammerstein | August 5, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Details have emerged about Big Al's MRI results....they did indeed find traces of biscuits and gravy and a huge vagina!

Posted by: leevi98 | August 5, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

9) What was funnier (in a sad way)?

b) Zorn's swinging gate play (honorable mention: Spurrier's "hindsight is 50/50")

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 5, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Romo....LMAO

I forgot about the "Hindsight is 50/50" quote.


Posted by: rickyroge | August 5, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

The potty break shti was his way of saying to Shanny "I'll see you and raise you" which gave Shanny (at least in his own mind) no choice but to fail him.

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

This fat, lazy, no good punk has the Skins over a barrel.

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

No structural damage to the knee, but what about to the MRI machine? Did they have to butter up that bulbous leg to get a look at that knee?

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | August 5, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Bleep...I like that line also.

Posted by: scmonty1 | August 5, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

People obviously have no understanding of an MRI, and should check wiki on that. Haynesworth is legitimately injured, and most likely because of the Shanahan Death Test. On sports radio I also heard a Giant had an MRI on his knee, and there is no suggestion of malingering.

At this point, Shanahan has lost an awful lot of authority. He has probably picked up some creds with the fans, but that doesn't matter much, what matters is Snyder's view of the situation.

Haynesworth cannot be put on the Physically Unable to Perform list because he started training camp on the active roster, where he is right now. Look it up. Anyone who claims otherwise is ignorant. He would have to be placed on injured reserve, which is curtains for the season. Good luck on that. Or you could cut him or waive him (same thing, really, as he has four years in the league). You would get nothing in return for him then. If you waive him while injured, there is financial liability.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 5, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Kyle Shanahan is my favorite hire this offseason. I think Ray Wright is my second favorite hiring.

Posted by: TWISI | August 5, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm in rehab medicine, and I'm a big fan of Wright so far. Injuries are a part of football, but the rash of hamstrings and knees over the last couple years should be preventable. Brian Mitchell said as much during his weekend radio show.

TWISI, I heard some of the interview with Doc and Chris--it seems the injury is legit and is the same chronic cartilage issue he got Synvisc shots for last year, it was just managed with weekend rest while training this offseason, but aggravated by stop/starts of shuttle test+constant work since then (best run-on sentence ever). I'm confident Wright will figure it out.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 5, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Bleep...I like that line also.

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

1. So much for Shan-a-tan's comment that he wouldn't comment on Fat Albert until he passed the test. I've been reading quotes for days.

2. Have the feeling Albert is gonna keep feel that "irritation" for several more days.

Posted by: nojunk4me | August 5, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

When I see Mr. Big Al crunch that little p-ssy Romo in the first game all will be forgiven! IMO, the coach knows what he is doing with Big Al and he knows how he is going to get the best out of the man! I hope Big Al helps this defense destroy the league!! BTW, F-Dallas!!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | August 5, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Dude could have passed the test the first time he took it. The potty break shti was his way of saying to Shanny "I'll see you and raise you" which gave Shanny (at least in his own mind) no choice but to fail him.

Posted by: Yammerstein | August 5, 2010 7:49 PM |

OK...I'll give you that. However, I'm not getting that because the knee is structurally fine, that AH doesn't have a knee issue.

Posted by: TWISI | August 5, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

AH is the highest maintenance player the skins have ever had.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 5, 2010 7:41 PM |

LaVar would come in a close second. Gibbs did such a good job of parrying the dude's shti that he ended up paying to leave, something that AH would do only if DC were to freeze over in the middle of July.

Posted by: Yammerstein | August 5, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

only if DC were to freeze over in the middle of July

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

nojunk4me

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

RomoLongballs spot on. Thanks. Once the training staff figures how to get AH in the "football" shape (both from a cardiovascular and physical standpoint)that Shanny wants, AH will get on the field. From a mental standpoint, all indications are that AH is learning the defense.

Posted by: TWISI | August 5, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth cannot be put on the Physically Unable to Perform list because he started training camp on the active roster, where he is right now. Look it up. Anyone who claims otherwise is ignorant.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 5, 2010 7:57 PM |

It seems you're pretty pretty pretty ignorant yourself. The post said "AH is exiled to some desert island like the PUP list", it didn't say anything about putting him on that specific list per se. Learn how to read.

Posted by: Yammerstein | August 5, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

It seems you're pretty pretty pretty ignorant yourself.

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Yammerstein, there is no such desert island. The Redskins can put him on injured reserve. They can keep him on the active roster. They can cut or waive him or waive him injured, all of which make him a free agent, the last requires compensation. There are no other options. Period. Your desert island is a mirage.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 5, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Ndamukong Suh Passes Albert Haynesworth Conditioning

8/05/2010 10:09 AM ET By Michael David Smith

Michael David Smith
NFL Writer

Lions rookie defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh is in better shape than Albert Haynesworth.

Suh showed up to Lions practice on Wednesday and passed the conditioning test that Haynesworth has repeatedly failed. The Detroit Free Press reports that Suh himself even called it "The Haynesworth Test." The test consists of a 300-yard shuttle run (back and forth in 25-yard increments), followed by a 3.5-minute break, followed by another 300-yard shuttle run. A passing score is 70 seconds on the first run and 73 seconds on the second run. Haynesworth has so far been unable to complete the test for the Washington Redskins, but Suh passed it easily in Detroit, finishing the first one in 65 seconds and the second one in 67 seconds.

Suh, who weighs more than twice as much as I do, managed better times than I did on both runs.

It should come as no surprise that Suh passed the test. Although he's a powerful defensive tackle, he's actually not one of the big fat guys who clogs up the middle of the line: His is more a game of quickness, and he showed in the Haynesworth Test how quickly he can move.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 5, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

There are no other options. Period. Your desert island is a mirage.

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

There are no other options. Period. Your desert island is a mirage.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 5, 2010 8:20 PM |

Didn't TO and Keyshawn Johnson get shipped off to Siberia when they let their annoying a-hole shtick go to far? There are all kinds of lists management can put a malcontent on. Only a GM would know all the names.

Posted by: Yammerstein | August 5, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

EpsteinsMothersDoctor

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Pleepleus

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

nojunk4me

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

SirAnonymoustheGreat

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 5, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Man, Jason coming to us from the future. One big play could "blow it open" but it's going to take more than that to keep it open.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 26, 2008 11:50 AM

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 5, 2010 8:22 PM |

Not all that interesting. You got any quotes about the test that Terrence Cody/Eddie Royal passed on the third try and what the results were? Cody is much more AH-like than Suh.

Posted by: Yammerstein | August 5, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

and what the results were?

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

DreamOutLoud

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Yammerstein: I will settle for one name, and an explanation of how Haynesworth could be put on that list, and any consequences of doing so.

Only options:
Keep on active roster.
Cut. (Haynesworth becomes unrestricted free agent)
Waive (as a player who has four years in the Bert Bell-Pete Rozelle plan, by virtue of the union contract, Haynesworth automatically becomes a free agent)
Waive/injured (Same as above, but Redskins would have to pay Haynesworth until he recovered; in practice, management and the player's attorney would meet and determine a figure, if that failed it would be arbitrated.
Place him on the reserve/injured list (he may be with the team but is ineligible to be restored to the active roster during the 2010 season)

Physically unable to perform list is not a possibility as a player who has been on the active roster after the start of training camp (as Haynesworth is, see the Redskins' website) cannot be put on the PUP list.

Which, leave, Yammerhead?

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 5, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Gweez

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

IT'S BACK...SICWIDIT's POLL-O-THE-WEEK!!!

1) Who should be in the Hall of Fame first:

a) Pat Fischer
b) Chris Hanburger
c) Joe Jacoby
d) Jim Lachey

In order: Hanburger, Jacoby, Lachey, Fischer. Jake prolly deserves it more, but Hanburger needs to go, and its Looooooong overdue.

2) Which of the following Redskins who were cut last year should we have kept for another season?

e) none of those scrubs, good riddance.

3) Who's the biggest Redskins hater?

a) Brian Mitchell
b) Peter King
c) Lavar Arrington
d) John Riggins

They all bring the hate, but 3/4 actually played. King is just a giant f'ing bag of yeast infected clam drippings.

4) Best rant by coach/manager

a) Hal McCrae with the Cubs
b) We 'talkin bout practice' (AI)
c) Mike Singletary ("I want winners")
d) "You play to win the game" (Herm Edwards
e) "PLAYOFFS!!!!" (Mora)

I want winners... technically not the best rant, but its got the best message.

5) I'd rather go shoe shopping with my wife than:

a) watch Arena football
b) watch the WNBA
c) watch Poker on TV
d) watch tennis

Watch the WNBA.. caca is just an excuse for lesbos to congregate in public and think they are relevant or something. They should put it on the gay channel instead of wasting sports network programming on that crap. No offense to the actual players, lesbian or otherwise.

6) Who's the "Summer 2010 jackAZZ"?

a) Lebron James
b) Brett Favre
c) Albert Haynesworth

Hmmm, tough call but I think Lebron wins for the sheer stupidity of the hour he bought on espn. Hiring the dbag jim gray to blow him on air earns him negative bonus points.

7) It's 4th and 2...who are you handing the ball off to?

a) Earl Campbell
b) John Riggins
c) Walter Payton

Payton, he can launch over the pile if the d gets a push.

8) I can put my hands on one of the following albums in the next 10 minutes:

a) Pete Seegar
c) Bee Gees
d) Paliament Funkadelic
e) Doobie Brothers

Pearl Jam "Ten".

9) What was funnier (in a sad way)?

a) Spurrier referring to Jim Haslett as "Jim HAYSLETT"
b) Zorn's swinging gate play
c) Pepper Rodgers

Swinging gate... with time to think about it after a timeout!!! gawd.that.was. just.lame. If zorn was a horse, they would have euthanized him at halftime.


Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 5, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

WrongDog

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Which, leave, Yammerhead?

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Yammer-

Cody took a much easier conditioning test than AH. No time requirements or actual times were given.

WESTMINSTER, Md. (AP) -- A day late and quite short of breath, rookie defensive tackle Terrence Cody passed his conditioning test Wednesday and formally launched his NFL career with the Baltimore Ravens.

Cody, a 350-pounder out of Alabama, twice failed the test Tuesday. The drill consists of running 25 yards, doubling back, resting for 70 seconds and repeating it twice.

"It's down and back, down and back, down and back. It's not complicated (but) it's a tough test," Ravens coach John Harbaugh said. "You've got to go out there and compete."

Cody conquered the drill on Wednesday morning at 7 a.m. and was removed from the Physically Unable to Perform list before participating in his first NFL training camp practice.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 5, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

What I think you are referring to, Yammerstein, is to "deactivate" a player. You're putting him on the practice squad. The practice squad does not presently exist and will not exist until the final round of cuts. You have to pay him in full, and it can be changed week by week.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 5, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I love the Dessert Island at The Mirage

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 5, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

SonOfStan

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

love sic-ricky's polls:

IT'S BACK...SICWIDIT's POLL-O-THE-WEEK!!!

1) Who should be in the Hall of Fame first:

c) Joe Jacoby


2) Which of the following Redskins who were cut last year should we have kept for another season?

c) Fred Smoot


3) Who's the biggest Redskins hater?

I hate that people who are critical are haters, I don't subscribe to it and wont put these great Redskins here. Kind would be my default but his flip flop on Monk got him into the HoF so....

4) Best rant by coach/manager

d) "You play to win the game" (Herm Edwards

Maybe NYC bias on my part, but its almost operatic.


5) I'd rather go shoe shopping with my wife than:

d) watch tennis

6) Who's the "Summer 2010 jackAZZ"?

c) Albert Haynesworth

7) It's 4th and 2...who are you handing the ball off to?

b) John Riggins


8) I can put my hands on one of the following albums in the next 10 minutes:


d) Paliament Funkadelic


9) What was funnier (in a sad way)?

TIE:

b) Zorn's swinging gate play
c) Pepper Rodgers

Posted by: chrislarry | August 5, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

BrokenClipboard

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

SkinsFan...LMAO!

Good response to poll!

Posted by: rickyroge | August 5, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Rotfrau

Posted by: bleep-bleep | August 5, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah!!! The poll man is back

OK
1) all but Fisher deserve it -- could add Jerry Smith (TD record for TE, held it for 30!! years) and Larry Brown to that list. Gary Clark finished up 8th all-time in receiving yards (irvin was 10th when he quit). Maybe Len Hauss as well.

2) they were all to pricey or old. But if Yoder was on the list, I'd have out him down.

3) don't know

4) Mora -- don't like the dad, don't like the putz kid

5) Not married, but I'd have gone with World Cup Soccer

6) Uck, Fat Albert

7) If those are my choices, I'm very happy. But gotta go with Riggo (is he sober?)

8) Doobies, but if you'd gone EWF as the funk of choice, different story

9) the swinging gate. I mean, it was bad enough, but they stopped play after he showed the formation ... and still ran it. Whats even sadder were the people who looked at replay and thought it almost worked!!

Lastly ... I did get a chuckle that the Bee Gees were choice C.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 5, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

"People obviously have no understanding of an MRI, and should check wiki on that. Haynesworth is legitimately injured, and most likely because of the Shanahan Death Test...there is no suggestion of malingering." posted by Nemo24601

I don't know how in the world you could come to that conclusion based on the article, which said: "An MRI exam Thursday of Albert Haynesworth's irritated knee revealed no structural damage.."

Did you miss the word 'no' in that sentence?

The docs are holding Albert out of practice because he's complaining of soreness in the knee. May have some swelling. But the MRI showed nothing serious. Maybe a subsequent MRI will find something, but the one they did yesterday didn't.

Must be strange living in the world of Albert Apologists.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 5, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I know it's boring reading essentially the same story about Albert Haynesworth every day. It's getting to be like those old jokes about "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead." But if we stand back for a minute, isn't it beginning to look like Albert has no intention of playing hard this season? If he put half as much effort into passing the test as he does into complaining about it, he'd probably be done with his first week of practice.

I hope I'm wrong, but this is beginning to smell like a bust...

Posted by: Samson151 | August 5, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth only has to do one thing to have all his worst haters bow to him -- hit Romo in the teeth opening night.

Posted by: JROFFUTTJR | August 5, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

TY sic ricky. I'll be here all year, LOL

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 5, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

5) I'd rather go shoe shopping with my wife than:

a.) endure a awkward moment where my homeboy's fine girlfriend has caught me checking out her hot, round azz

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 5, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

"I know it's boring reading essentially the same story about Albert Haynesworth every day."

Jason Reid says it's boring reading the same emails about Haynesworth everyday

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Not surprised by the King James hate in Wizard land. His decision show donated more than 2 million dollars to the boys and girls culb.

Think about it haters. No show, no donations.

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

"Man, Jason coming to us from the future. One big play could "blow it open" but it's going to take more than that to keep it open.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 26, 2008 11:50 AM"

Why did you post this comment from two years ago?

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Dude, no structural damage means that the bones and cartilage of the knee are unaffected. There's an awful lot in the knee that can go wrong that is not picked up by an MRI. It simply means that AH won't need surgery.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 5, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

In addition to Lebron's decision, University of Phoenix, announced it would make a separate donation – five full-tuition scholarships – to the organization.

About an hour before the broadcast began, the University of Phoenix also donated four of its scheduled ad spots to the Boys and Girls Clubs, so BGCA could air its own advertisements, says Frank Sanchez, vice president of sports, entertainment, and alumni relations for the nonprofit youth organization. BGCA would not have been able to air a commercial during the show otherwise, he says. The group does not pay for its own advertising; all ad spots are donated.

But of course the DMV being so dam liberal, it's no surprise that people would turn his TV special into a bad thing ignoring the good that came with it.

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Mimi-

Mitch Albom says it quite nicely...

"A prime-time event? To announce a free-agent signing? And don't point out that some proceeds go to charity. You want to give to charity, quietly write a check. Don't get a network to do it for you so it gets to pump its shows and you get to shower yourself in international coverage—while calling it philanthropy.

"The NBA has embarrassed itself here. The media have embarrassed themselves. And a guy who calls himself the king may be beyond embarrassment, which is truely embarrasing."

I look forward to rooting against Lebron and the heat, but the answer to the question is Haynesworth.

And FYI...6 million in Ad sales and 2.5 million went to the boys and girls club. Which is 2.5 million more than they had the day before.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 5, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

@D44

I bet if he returned to Cleveland, the criticism of Lebrons show wouldn't be as such

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

donating proceeds is donating proceeds whether done in the spotlight or behind closed doors.

Like I said. No show, no donations and no scholarships. It's not that complicated

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Did anybody watch the Eagles scrimmage on NFL Network earlier today?

I did hoping to get an eye on opposition, but it was complete bs

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Mimi-

Which is why I wrote..

And FYI...6 million in Ad sales and 2.5 million went to the boys and girls club. Which is 2.5 million more than they had the day before.

He's still a colossal d0uche.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 5, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

“We cannot be thankful enough for LeBron and the sponsors,” said Frank Sanchez, vice president of sports, entertainment, and alumni relations for the nonprofit youth organization. “As a fundraising opportunity, it was one of our most significant contributions, and it all happened within one hour.”

In addition to money generated from the event, the BGCA receives intangible gains. The organization’s logo was strategically centered on a wall in between James and ESPN sportscaster Jim Gray, who conducted the interview.

"You can’t monetize having our logo splashed all over the place” on prime-time TV, online, and on the front pages of morning newspapers, says Sanchez. “What LeBron did for our brand was huge.”

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Like I said. No show, no donations and no scholarships. It's not that complicated

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 10:02 PM

Yeah we get it. It was also self-serving and stupid. So forgive us if we don't saint him.

Posted by: mack1 | August 5, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

I heard on the radio that Albert had fluid on his knee. Turns out it was gravy...

Posted by: kptl20 | August 5, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

"He's still a colossal d0uche."

He's still a polarizing figure...there..fixed it fur ya.

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

"But if we stand back for a minute, isn't it beginning to look like Albert has no intention of playing hard this season? If he put half as much effort into passing the test as he does into complaining about it, he'd probably be done with his first week of practice."

"But the MRI showed nothing serious. Maybe a subsequent MRI will find something, but the one they did yesterday didn't."


Disagree with you, Samson. The word "structural" as I understand it refers to the integrity of the ligament structure, period. That leaves tendon, retinaculum, menisci, cartilage, and muscle imbalance.

The scope he had 3-4 years ago removed half of his cartilage, according to Doc Walker of 980. There were articles in RI documenting the Synvisc injections he had to take last year during the first week of camp for this issue; it is legit. Just because it isn't structural in nature doesn't mean that it isn't painful and swollen, and at risk for becoming more of a problem. Microfracture surgery is indicated for problems LESS severe than his is purported to be. The training staff says it's swollen, and last time I checked you can't fake edema.

I agree with you in that the potty break during the first test was him flashing the middle finger to the whole process. This flare up changes things a bit. I'll bet he wishes he hadn't f*cked around and just passed it.

He's got incentive to get back on the practice field and play some ball--his value isn't going back up by being viewed by the rest of the NFL as a de-conditioned malcontent and he knows it. I think he knows he'd be better off passing whatever test is required at this point, but both he and the training staff think it's in everyone's interest to be thinking of his knee and the long haul.

Doc also said he recanted his position on the 3-4 scheme. He said he relied too much on what other people told him; when pressed on depending on faulty info, he said "I went with the information on hand". He's now excited about his role and is working with Haslett on the scheme and Ray Wright on the knee. He's also mentoring the youngens.

He wants to get back on the practice field, which is a Shanahan victory in and of itself. So now he just needs to be healthy and motivated at the same time.

Check out TWISI's link to this 980 segment from one or two threads ago if you haven't already.

And none of this apologist nonsense for me, I just don't want to lose a bet to a cow.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 5, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Great poll, Rick Bobby!! My 2 cents:

1) Who should be in the Hall of Fame first:
c) Joe Jacoby
Travesty he's not in. Fisher before my time but probaby should be in too.


2) Which of the following Redskins who were cut last year should we have kept for another season?
b) Cornelius Griffin
I love Corny.

3) Who's the biggest Redskins hater?
b) Peter King
can't pick a former Skin


4) Best rant by coach/manager
e) "PLAYOFFS!!!!" (Mora)
p.s. AI isn't a coach/manager (but sure would be hilarious)

5) I'd rather go shoe shopping with my wife than:
b) watch the WNBA
Easiest one yet. Poker on TV is great IMO.

6) Who's the "Summer 2010 jackAZZ"?
c) Albert Haynesworth
2nd easiest.

7) It's 4th and 2...who are you handing the ball off to?
a) Earl Campbell
Great/tough question. All are great options.


8) I can put my hands on one of the following albums in the next 10 minutes:
d) Paliament Funkadelic
We want the funk. GOtta have that funk, AWW...


9) What was funnier (in a sad way)?
b) Zorn's swinging gate play
Sheer brilliance. "F U, DAN"

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | August 5, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | August 5, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

How exactly do you feel about him mack

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

How did Zorn get away with the swinging gate twice when Sherman Lewis was supposed to be calling the plays

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Poor Dall-ass..

SAN ANTONIO -- The Cowboys' last two-a-day practice ended with a starter and a prominent backup riding in the back of a golf cart together.

Starting defensive end Marcus Spears suffered a sprained MCL in his left knee with about 20 minutes left in Thursday's practice. Spears is expected to be sidelined for up to six weeks and his status for the season opener against Washington on Sept. 12 is in question.

Jason Hatcher, who is playing with a hyperextended elbow, is likely to move into the starting lineup.

Meanwhile, swing tackle Alex Barron sustained a dislocated left pinky finger at the end of practice. Barron is questionable for the Cowboys' first preseason game Sunday against the Cincinnati Bengals in Canton, Ohio.

Spears went down after a block and was slow to get up. He limped to the side where he was looked at by trainers Jim Maurer and Britt Brown. Coach Wade Phillips and fellow nose tackle Jay Ratliff also spoke with Spears.

Currently the Cowboys have Montrae Holland (hamstring), Dez Bryant (ankle), Pat Watkins (knee), Stephen Hodge (knee) and Sean Lissemore (groin) dealing with injury problems.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 5, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Cowboys await test results on Spears' knee

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 5, 2010 9:10 PM ET

Another key Cowboys contributor could be on the shelf for a little while.

Defensive end Marcus Spears underwent an MRI on Thursday. Gerry Fraley of the Dallas Morning News reports the club believes Spears has a sprained ligament, likely a sprained MCL. That injury would knock Spears out 4-6 weeks and make him uncertain for the season opener.

Spears was believed to be at risk of losing snaps this year, and this injury could cost him his starting job early in the season.

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

7) It's 4th and 2...who are you handing the ball off to?
a) Earl Campbell
Great/tough question. All are great options.

+++

On my All-Pantheon Team, Earl Campbell and Walter Payton are my starting RB's ...and maybe Bo - except for the freak injury.

Posted by: edvar | August 5, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe,you funny.

Posted by: rgj21 | August 5, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

My gut tells me Dez will be ready for week one and he will have a great game.

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

My gut tells me Dez will be ready for week one and he will have a great game.

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 11:06 PM

Please punch yourself in the gut and call it a night.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 5, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Get well soon, Albert!

Always sucks to have a selfless workhorse sidelined by injury.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 5, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

There's an awful lot in the knee that can go wrong that is not picked up by an MRI. It simply means that AH won't need surgery.

Posted by: Nemo24601

Especially when the knee belongs to a 330-350 pound body that hasn't been in good condition in two years.

Posted by: TheCork | August 5, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey Cork, you've seen a lot of great ones. Who's in your All Pantheon backfield?

Posted by: edvar | August 5, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse


MRI AH's head to see if this moron has a brain

Posted by: hessone | August 5, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

My gut tells me Dez will be ready for week one and he will have a great game.

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

I could handle the dumazz leave lebron alone multi- spews, but now yer just proving you should go back in the kitchen and pour yourself a steaming cup of STFU.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 5, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

My gut tells me Dez will be ready for week one and he will have a great game.

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 11:06 PM |

Guess it's time for you to go back to your Dallas Brokebacks blog and letting your chin play catcher for Dez Bryant's balls.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 5, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

I honestly don't think they are letting AH practice because he doesn't know the defense. It would be absolutely ridiculous for them to let him just show up to camp and learn the playbook on the fly, trust me once he learns the playbook (which he has been doing on the side with the coachs for 7 days) you will see AH in the starting rotation.

Posted by: Tom_square | August 6, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Dallas, in my opinion, is looking scary. Yeah, I know Dez White is hurt, but last year at this time their practice facility collapsed on top of them. I'm not hearing the same level of distraction/calamity this year... And I dont like it.

PS - We don't know if AH even WANTS to play. I just think if he doesn't, the Skins should put him on the practice squad and encourage him to eat lots of sugary sweets and foods high in saturated fats. Have the trainers bring him Twinkies during water breaks. Shti, roll out a desert cart! Help him explode.

Hopefully, he'll take some pride in his occupation and do some damage for us this year.

Posted by: Thinker_ | August 6, 2010 2:34 AM | Report abuse

My gut tells me Dez will be ready for week one and he will have a great game.

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 11:06 PM |

OK, since your gut is so smart, what part of my anatomy do I want to spank your face with?

Not so easy, huh?

By the way, you SHOULD be AnSorry for posting that.

Posted by: Thinker_ | August 6, 2010 2:38 AM | Report abuse

My gut tells me Dez will be ready for week one and he will have a great game.

Posted by: MimiAnsari | August 5, 2010 11:06 PM |

OK, since your gut is so smart, what part of my anatomy do I want to spank your face with?

Not so easy, huh?

By the way, you SHOULD be AnSorry for posting that.

Posted by: Thinker_ | August 6, 2010 2:39 AM | Report abuse

A 47yr old passed that test!!! A 47yr old!!!! Oh he didn't reach the cone or he was a second of the pace, whatever!! A 47yr old guy who has been out of football for 16yrs passed, or came damn close to passing this so called conditioning test! I'm so sick of hearing excuses for this P>O>S!! If he doesn't want to play put him on the bench. FH!!!! The skins D was top 10 WO him for more than 5yrs.

Posted by: skins91r | August 6, 2010 3:25 AM | Report abuse

Today athletes blow!

Bugel is giving away Grimm in Canton!

Jacoby better ne next!

Posted by: artsnsportz | August 6, 2010 3:51 AM | Report abuse

A 47yr old passed that test!!! A 47yr old!!!! Oh he didn't reach the cone or he was a second of the pace, whatever!! A 47yr old guy who has been out of football for 16yrs passed, or came damn close to passing this so called conditioning test! I'm so sick of hearing excuses for this P>O>S!! If he doesn't want to play put him on the bench. FH!!!! The skins D was top 10 WO him for more than 5yrs.

Posted by: skins91r | August 6, 2010 3:25 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, make Fat Albert inactive until another team loses their star 4-3 DE and comes BEGGING for fatboy! It will happen if we are patient. This 4-3 team will think they are in heaven after they get a better player mid-season to replace their star, so we need a HIGH draft pick for him! I hope it's a playoff type team!

Posted by: artsnsportz | August 6, 2010 4:05 AM | Report abuse

Sorry,I meant 4-3 DT.

Posted by: artsnsportz | August 6, 2010 4:07 AM | Report abuse

Keim's news and notes from the Examiner:

» Receiver Mike Furrey missed his third straight day of practice. The Redskins had said he was sick, but coach Mike Shanahan said Thursday that Furrey had suffered a concussion.

» Tight end Chris Cooley, fullback Mike Sellers, defensive lineman Jeremy Jarmon and running back Willie Parker had the practice off to rest. Right tackle Jammal Brown attempted to practice, but did not participate in the full-team drills because of his hip.

» Receiver Malcolm Kelly (hamstring) did not practice for the seventh straight day. Kelly did light agility work off to the side. “He’s getting closer, but you can see he’s still not there,” Shanahan said. “We don’t want to set him back to where he’s [out] another two weeks.”

» Shanahan was on San Francisco’s coaching staff when receiver Jerry Rice became a star. Rice is entering the Hall of Fame this weekend. “I’ve never been around a guy that practiced like he did,” Shanahan said. “In the offseason he’d be in there eight hours a day. He’d be relentless. He not only worked out, but he studied film. His goal was to be the best to ever play the game at this position. He never missed one workout and I’d get in at 5 a.m. and Jerry would be in there. He worked as hard as anyone I’ve ever been around.”

Position review » Special teams


KR Terrence Austin
Austin will play receiver, but he’s getting a shot in the NFL because of his return ability. Though he was considered a good one at UCLA, in a combined 77 kick and punt returns, Austin never returned one for a touchdown. He lacks burner speed. Still, he could help. “He has great vision,” Redskins special teams coach Danny Smith said. “He makes quick decisions and he has a good first step.”

LS Nick Sundberg
Sundberg, in his first year, has replaced Ethan Albright, who would have been in his 16th. At least for now, that is. If Sundberg doesn’t improve, there’s little doubt Albright, who is still working out to keep sharp, eventually will return. Sundberg has made several bad snaps each day, causing kicker Graham Gano to miss field goals. On Wednesday, he misfired on at least two snaps — both bounced in front of the holder. The fact that both occurred minus a rush is troubling.

P Josh Bidwell
Bidwell has punted well the past two days, displaying the consistency Washington has lacked for several years. However, the key is Bidwell’s durability. He’s 34 and coming off a hip injury that caused him to miss all of 2009. If healthy, the Redskins have a punter with a career 42.8-yard average (and 44.5 in 2008) and someone who can execute a variety of punts, not just sit back and boom. “He’s a powerful guy and he’s a real pro,” Smith said. “He has game. … Some of the young people have leg, but they have no game.”

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 5:26 AM | Report abuse

More notes and analysis from Keim:

1. Albert Haynesworth’s MRI is not a surprise, considering the Redskins have said it’s bothered him since the second day of camp. Just remember, one big reason teams stayed away from him as a free agent was because of his durability. Funny thing is, he actually appeared to do more agility work today. He did have his hands on his knees at one point; not sure if he was just gassed or what. Guess we can ask him after he starts practicing, which is when we’ll next talk to him.

2. The more I talk to defensive players, and even coaches, the more this is clear: Haynesworth will absolutely have to be more selfless than ever when playing defensive end. That’s why I’m not sold that Haynesworth ultimately will buy into the scheme. They will stunt to get him freed up to rush the passer and I doubt that they won’t use his full talents. He’d be good over the nose on pass-rush situations. But when he does return this will bear watching.

3. A couple years ago when the Redskins faced Pittsburgh and Dallas in 2008, one veteran lineman explained the difference between the two teams. The Cowboys had more talent, he said; but the Steelers were better. Why? Because the Cowboys’ linemen wanted to make plays; the Steelers linemen just did their jobs – and freed up the linebackers. That’s what Washington wants its line to do.

4. The Redskins are focusing an awful lot on their outside running game, built off misdirection. Though the Redskins used zone blocking under Joe Bugel, they relied heavily on inside runs.

5. Redskins coach Mike Shanahan got irritated at a question about the commissioner’s office talking to Santana Moss about Anthony Galea. He seems to think by bringing up Moss’ name that the reporter was singing him out. Here’s the thing: Moss plays for the Redskins and while there are many more names on the list, he’s the only Redskin (that we know of). And the commissioner said he spoke with Moss. So it’s a logical question (wasn’t asked by me).

6. John Beck had a better day today throwing the ball. He did miss on some throws, especially early. However, he still had passes that were nearly intercepted (one off a deflection). Chris Draft knocked another away. Beck was fine, but a stud today? No. However, he looked good in comparison to Rex Grossman who was bad.

7. The Redskins have shown one defensive formation in which Brian Orakpo and Lorenzo Alexander line up on the right side together, both standing up. Both start outside and then Alexander cuts inside, drawing attention and freeing up Orakpo to be one-on-one. It worked today as Orakpo forced a Grossman interception.

8. I don’t know if Kevin Barnes will show it in games, but in practice he’s a lot different than last year. He might not even climb the depth chart. But he has improved.

more...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 5:30 AM | Report abuse

continued...

9. Phillip Buchanon showed his savvy on a deep ball to Terrence Austin today. His eyes were focused on Austin as he tried to run a double move; but Buchanon was not fooled and Austin was not open.

10. Austin is intriguing because he’s making plays, but I’ll be curious to see how he handles physical play at the line.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 5:32 AM | Report abuse

"Disagree with you, Samson. The word "structural" as I understand it refers to the integrity of the ligament structure, period. That leaves tendon, retinaculum, menisci, cartilage, and muscle imbalance. posted by romolongballs"

I'm not sure what you disagree with. Albert has been complaining of soreness in his knee. That's not a new complaint; he's complained of it every 3rd or 4th day in the past. The last few days he's complained more than usual and as a result has been excused from practice. The docs got an MRI and determined there's nothing structurally wrong with the knee. Which is good news, right?

So how come Nemo asserted that Shanahan's insistence on a conditioning test was responsible for an injury?

What injury?

To sum up, did the MRI show something that could require medical intervention beyond more of the usual rehab?

Apparently not.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2010 5:38 AM | Report abuse

Just to address the question of malingering: that's ordinarily not something a team doc worries about with NFL players during camp, because they're more likely to hide an injury in order to hang on to a job. Albert's an unusual situation, because he obviously has no worried in that respect. As long as he's in camp, he's generally in compliance with his contract, which keeps the checks coming.

Not much of a stretch to say he could spend the rest of camp in the whirlpool tub or on the stationary bike. Maybe some other team will make an offer for him when a D-lineman goes down. Albert certainly wouldn't want to take any risks that endangered his trade potential with a club that played the 4-3.

So is he malingering? No way to know for sure. He ordinarily has soreness in the knee, and probably some swelling. Did the MRI eliminate the possibility of malingering? No.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2010 5:46 AM | Report abuse

brownwood,

I learned more from the Keim stuff you pasted than I've learned from all the posts by Reid and his team. I wonder if Reid has staked out Haynesworth's house so he can break The Big Story.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 6, 2010 6:15 AM | Report abuse

For my fellow Madden fans, ESPN has a pretty good in-depth article about the rise of the video game:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=100805/madden

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 6:18 AM | Report abuse

"No structural damage" is another way of saying, "he is faking it". He is not "Dancing Bear". Cheers.

Posted by: MPNangle | August 6, 2010 6:29 AM | Report abuse

So is he malingering? No way to know for sure. He ordinarily has soreness in the knee, and probably some swelling. Did the MRI eliminate the possibility of malingering? No.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2010 5:46 AM | Report abuse
I've had knee problems ever since college. I've had the synvisc shots, eventually had to have knee replacements. So I have a lot of experience with knee issues.

AH apparantly has cartilege issues, has apparantly had about half of the cartilege removed. So I am confident that running the shuttle run numerous times over the first several days of camp has caused his knees to become swollen. This is something that is clearly visible, and any physician or trainer can easily identify. So I do not feel AH is faking this.

The shuttle is one way to test for fitness, but there are other ways also. I think MS should have Ray Wright develop a system of confirming that AH is in shape, without causing more irratation to his knees.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 6, 2010 6:32 AM | Report abuse

I learned more from the Keim stuff you pasted than I've learned from all the posts by Reid and his team. I wonder if Reid has staked out Haynesworth's house so he can break The Big Story.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 6, 2010 6:15 AM


Yeah, that's why I'm posting this stuff up here...not only is Keim more detailed, but it sounds like he knows what the hell to look for. Meanwhile, Reid couldn't find a nugget of football information if it fell into the BBQ sauce for his 10 piece chicken McNuggets. I think most of us get our Redskins info elsewhere and come here for the jibba-jabba. Any grenade of Redskins knowledge I can roll into the blog is just a small token of my gratitude for a place to talk Skins with other Skins fans...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 6:36 AM | Report abuse

"AH apparantly has cartilege issues, has apparantly had about half of the cartilege removed. So I am confident that running the shuttle run numerous times over the first several days of camp has caused his knees to become swollen. This is something that is clearly visible, and any physician or trainer can easily identify. So I do not feel AH is faking this.posted by frediefritz"

Thanks for sharing your feeling, but your experience doesn't help much. It certainly doesn't tell us that the conditioning test twice was the cause of Albert's current soreness, which results from a chronic condition. If a simple shuttle run could cause soreness, you'd have to presume that it would have occurred anyway in the course of a normal camp. A shuttle run doesn't stress the knees much -- certainly not in comparison with 1 on 1 contact drill with another really big lineman.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2010 6:47 AM | Report abuse

Just wanted to reiterate: far as we know, Albert completed the conditioning test twice, on successive days. If that's enough to aggravate soreness, we have to assume he was not ready to participate in a meaningful way in practice anyway. The team trainers are hoping the soreness will go away. You note that he's doing some mild agility drills on the sidelines, and seems to do OK other than appearing to breathe hard.

I just suspect this is not an athlete who's in good condition to start a season.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2010 6:52 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who sees AH as anything more than a lazy, overrated sack of sh*t is just fooling themselves...time to cut ties with one of the worst FA signings in NFL history...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 7:11 AM | Report abuse

I just suspect this is not an athlete who's in good condition to start a season.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2010 6:52 AM | Report abuse

I'm not arguing that he is in great shape. He had lost 30#s, but that alone does not say anything about his cardio.

What I'm saying is that a combination of a bad knee to start with, and 330+#s, plus numerous shuttle runs, could easily cause the swelling.

The trainers can develop other exercises to maintain his cardio, without doing the pounding of the shuttle.

We need AH on the field on Sundays. He needs to be in shape, without having knee swelling. That's why the trainers should develop alternative training methods that will ensure that AH has the cardio training to be effective during the season.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 6, 2010 7:13 AM | Report abuse

Samson, this was no simple shuttle run. It was twice the number of turns after half the distance that most NFL teams run. It is like saying that because Brady got hurt in the opener, he was obviously not fit to start the season. False logic on your part, sir.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 6, 2010 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Gotcha, Samson. You're right, no structural damage is good news. The tone of your posts suggested to me that you thought no structural damage=nothing wrong at all=faking an inujury. Normal PT should take care of it, but he will need some timely rest. Not the "no practice in between games" kind of rest he's used to, but something more like the day off given to some veterans on Wed.

Personally, I don't give a sh!t if he has an ouchy, he's got far worse coming to him. But as long as he wears a skins jersey, I'm hoping for healthy conribution to some Dallas ass whoopins.

To reiterate, I think Ray Wright will figure it out and Shan/HAYslett will good cop/bad cop him into some semblance of motivation.

We both hope it's not a bust situation.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 6, 2010 7:24 AM | Report abuse

Nice, fredie. Didn't see your post, good lookin out.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 6, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Frediefritz is correct. Let the trainers work out a test for AH to show his fitness, that does NOT involve murderous tight turns over and over that aren't going to help his knee and really don't show much about his true fitness.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 6, 2010 7:28 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who sees AH as anything more than a lazy, overrated sack of sh*t is just fooling themselves...time to cut ties with one of the worst FA signings in NFL history...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 7:11 AM

I can go with "lazy", "sack of sh*t", and "worst FA signings", but I don't subscribe to overrated. The man is a force, even when he's out of shape (which has probably been forever). Time to cut ties is when Haslett is convinced that he won't deliver on the field this year.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 6, 2010 7:29 AM | Report abuse

I'm tired of talking about Haynesworth. The knee seems to be fine - maybe they drain some fluid - and get him back to working on cardio. He needs to be in good enough shape to last a series without needing to go suck on the oxygen pacifier. Now that we know his knee is okay, he'll be in the mix. This team is not going to cut a guy who was paid all of those greenbacks until they absolutely determine he cannot help the team. A trade would be another story, but so many red flags have come up this preseason with his knee, fitness, attitude, etc. that no team - I repeat, no team - would trade for him. Like or not, we are stuck with fat Al and now let's hope for the best.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 6, 2010 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Samson, this was no simple shuttle run. It was twice the number of turns after half the distance that most NFL teams run. It is like saying that because Brady got hurt in the opener, he was obviously not fit to start the season. False logic on your part, sir.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 6, 2010 7:23 AM


Suh ran the EXACT same test in Detroit and passed it with room to spare. The only false logic is that there's ANY excuse or any party to blame other than Fat Al for Fat Al not passing this test...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

The only false logic is that there's ANY excuse or any party to blame other than Fat Al for Fat Al not passing this test...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 7:42 AM

Exactly. If the guy has knee issues he should have been here working with the Redskins' trainers over the summer, not in August when the rest of the team is playing football.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 6, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse


@brownwood26

Thanks for your reseach in regards to camp. Good info that gets to the meat of camp, and not the hollywood side, if you know what I mean.

The WaPo should lure this guy Keim away from the Examiner with a chunk of cash and appoint him the new Mayor of RI.

AH is now to the point that he is making himself look bad across the board, if that's at all possible. He's now sacrificing any kind of respect he'll ever garnish from all sides, and Shanahan looks better everyday he sticks to his guns in regards to handling AH.

Posted by: hessone | August 6, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Suh ran the EXACT same test in Detroit and passed it with room to spare. The only false logic is that there's ANY excuse or any party to blame other than Fat Al for Fat Al not passing this test...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse
Suh doesn't have the cartilege issues. I want AH in practice learning the schemes and his responsibilities. But if he has joint issues, let's find a way to insure that he can be on the field on Sundays.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 6, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

brownwood26, Suh is a defensive tackle noted for his speed. Same test, different type of player. Means nothing.

And your repeated iterations of "Fat Al" means you are so biased that there is no point in engaging with you. I guess you will cheer when Haynesworth takes down a quarterback, though you'll give all the credit to Shanahan.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 6, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse

The man is a force, even when he's out of shape (which has probably been forever). Time to cut ties is when Haslett is convinced that he won't deliver on the field this year.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 6, 2010 7:29 AM


He is overrated...people assume him to be dominant because he was dominant in '07 and '08. He hasn't played anywhere near that level before or since. I'd be stunned if he ever makes another Pro-Bowl. Dude coasts on his natural abilities, which keeps him on an NFL roster and in a starting lineup...but for me, it's not enough to put him in the "elite" category.

And it's not his recent antics that have me feeling this way. I felt this way about him as a Titan. I said from Day 1 this dude has Stubblefield written all over him. I'm just waiting for the report that he's sleeping thru the Dallas game and the debacle will have come full circle...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 7:56 AM | Report abuse

Nemo, you know you just said "defensive tackle noted for his speed", right? Surely you can see how ridiculous that statement is...

And I don't have a bias against AH. I just call a spade a spade. Just because it doesn't fit your rosey viewpoint of a guy who is easily one of the biggest underachievers in the NFL doesn't mean it's bias.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

I guess you will cheer when Haynesworth takes down a quarterback, though you'll give all the credit to Shanahan.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 6, 2010 7:52 AM
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Now, you see, that is the kind of thinking that got us in this mess in the first place. You think it is okay for AH to be out of shape, sucking oxygen on the sideline, free-lancing and faking injuries to get a breather just as long as he delivers that one big play a game. Frankly, if he delivered one sack but gave up a long pass play for a touchdown because he was so winded he just dialed in the play, I wouldn't want him on the squad.

When the team has to make unscheduled substitutions for a player, or a player doesn't stick to his assignment, it impacts the entire team. It disrupts the entire game plan. It unravels a chance at victory, because a more disciplined offense is going to pick away at that until they walk away a winner. You could call Albert Haynesworth "Skinny Al the Fitness Freak" for all I care, but that doesn't change the fact that he can't pass a simple athletic test that is nowhere near as severe as conditions he would face playing in a regular season game in 90 degree heat. What, pray tell, is he going to do when he faces those conditions? Answer: injury timeout for the Redskins...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 6, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse


He is overrated...people assume him to be dominant because he was dominant in '07 and '08. He hasn't played anywhere near that level before or since. I'd be stunned if he ever makes another Pro-Bowl. Dude coasts on his natural abilities, which keeps him on an NFL roster and in a starting lineup...but for me, it's not enough to put him in the "elite" category.

And it's not his recent antics that have me feeling this way. I felt this way about him as a Titan. I said from Day 1 this dude has Stubblefield written all over him. I'm just waiting for the report that he's sleeping thru the Dallas game and the debacle will have come full circle...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 7:56 AM

Co-sign, as anyone with common scense can see through this write-off and his immature antics.

Posted by: hessone | August 6, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse

"And your repeated iterations of "Fat Al" means you are so biased that there is no point in engaging with you."


Co-sign!

It seems the "in thing" to do these days with Haynesworth is to pile on and pile on some more. It's funny because the guys who are constant in their Haynesworth bashing are the same ones who were vehemently against the signing from the jump. All they're doing is just patting themselves on the back about how right they were.

I'm no Haynesworth fan, but I'm not a hater either. I guess I don't see the point in making repeated fat jokes about the guy.

But let me stop before I get accused of being his "agent", "apologist", or "defender" just because I chose not to join the lynch mob.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 6, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 6, 2010 8:06 AM

RSH, you're on the money here. The word TEAM, which AH doesn't seem to understand the concept. He is an indivisual player in a team sport. Had he simply came to Redskins Park with his teammates during the offseason, we aren't even having this discussion. Why is it that folks aren't held accountable for their actions ? Does anyone really think Coach wants this problem on the TEAMS plate to begin his tenure as HC of this TEAM. Jeez

Posted by: hessone | August 6, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Fill-in the Blank

Their encounter lasted only "15 seconds," _______________ said.


Select the best answer:

a.) Albert Haynesworth and his personal trainer

b.) Rick Pitino and some cougar he met in a bar

c.) The final meeting of the prez of the Cult 'O Colt and his suddenly silent members

d.) Malcolm Kelly and his desire to prove he's ready to be 'the guy' in the redskin offense

e.) Lavar Arrington and the circus clown who hired him to work for the WaPo

Posted by: gimmesummoe | August 6, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

RED STOP DEFENDING AL!!!!!!

WHAT ARE YOU HIS AGENT OR SOMETHING???

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

brownwood26, it isn't me saying that, go run a search for "suh conditioning test" and check the second entry.

Incidentally, I am a complete neutral here as a Jets season ticket holder for 25 years who lives in the area. Although I generally get from here to the Meadowlands faster than you guys get to FedEx field ...

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 6, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Samson, this was no simple shuttle run. It was twice the number of turns after half the distance that most NFL teams run. It is like saying that because Brady got hurt in the opener, he was obviously not fit to start the season. False logic on your part, sir.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 6, 2010 7:23 AM

Go back to bed...

Brady was hurt by contact, AH apparently has swelling in his knee while jogging and failing his conditioning test. If he aggravated his knee from jogging how would he have done battling in the trenches?

He's hurt because he's a fat man that showed up out of shape. Who hires a trainer that is know for training the Chinese Olympic badminton and table tennis team instead of working out with a team of professional trainers @ Redskin park. No wonder Shanahan allegedly said the AH has probably never been in shape.

AH has NO incentive to pass the test...his reward would be 2 a days in a defense he has NO desire to play in. He's the worst FA signing in the history of the NFL and people want to make excuses for him and continue to OVERRATE him.

Total Pressures by #98 & #99 (Sk, Ht or Hr) = 108
Times Haynesworth on field = 57
Times Haynesworth not on field =51
Of the 57 times he was on the field, the vast majority of the time (43 times) he was playing DRT. Therefore, from looking at the 108 positive instances of Orakpo and Carter pressure I found a maximum of 5 where Haynesworth may have had some impact over and above what may be expected from a standard DT.

Here's the rest of the article..

http://www.hogshaven.com/2010/7/1/1546927/based-on-redskins-2009-dl-pressure

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 6, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

When the team has to make unscheduled substitutions for a player, or a player doesn't stick to his assignment, it impacts the entire team. It disrupts the entire game plan. It unravels a chance at victory, because a more disciplined offense is going to pick away at that until they walk away a winner. You could call Albert Haynesworth "Skinny Al the Fitness Freak" for all I care, but that doesn't change the fact that he can't pass a simple athletic test that is nowhere near as severe as conditions he would face playing in a regular season game in 90 degree heat. What, pray tell, is he going to do when he faces those conditions? Answer: injury timeout for the Redskins...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 6, 2010 8:06 AM


100% co-sign. There's cause and effect for having a "talented yet undisciplined" player on the field. Just because it doesn't show up in the box score, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Red, if you're Switzerland on this and staying neutral, then why are you co-signing with an AH apologist?

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse


I'm no Haynesworth fan, but I'm not a hater either. I guess I don't see the point in making repeated fat jokes about the guy.

But let me stop before I get accused of being his "agent", "apologist", or "defender" just because I chose not to join the lynch mob.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 6, 2010 8:12 AM

I don't hate AH, I hate his attitude. How about you Red ?

Posted by: hessone | August 6, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV, you are correct, it is ever so. We are all children, whose instincts to pile on the ones we don't like are stopped by a thin veneer of civilization, a la Lord of the Flies. Remove authority, or have authority (Shanahan and the Post) signal that it is OK to pile on the ones we don't like, and otherwise productive (I hope) members of society start screaming "Fat Albert". Just human nature. Pity, though.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 6, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

lol... only a matter of time.


Truth be told I actually have ocean scented candles encircled around my Albert Haynesworth shrine located in the back room of my basement.

Right above it I have a poster with him bare-chested. At the bottom their are words that read: "I'm on a horse" and every time I cut the lights off the old spice whistle tune is played.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 6, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

1.
WP sports writers are a bunch of lazy
hacks.
2.
They need to have Albert treated by a
physical medicine/Pain management doctor,
like by the Capital Spine and Pain
Centers group.
They are experts in managing these type
injuries..and no doubt could get Fat
Albert`s sore knee to respond, and back
on the field. The team ortho and
trainers..are not getting the job done.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | August 6, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Nemo, the bottom line is Suh and Haynesworth are approximately the same size and have about the same body type. We're not comparing RBs and DTs here...we're putting a DT up against another DT. The only discernible difference between Suh and Haynesworth in this test is that Suh is in shape and AH is not.

Great stuff from Diesel...the worst possible argument backing AH is that he's the one responsible for AC and Orakpo having big years. As if they were undrafted slappies that couldn't play and then MAGICALLY became awesome just by lining up next to AH and inhaling his magic pixie dust. UFB...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

redDmv

"But let me stop before I get accused of being his "agent", "apologist", or "defender"..."

I am an Albert Haynesworth 'apologist' and don't mind any of the inuslts folks will toss my way for it.

Me?: I see things the way Shanny does.

A fit and 'broken' AH will make the redskin defensive line one of the league's best.

AH will be accepted and Shanny even more respected by the players from his having been put in his place.

I see a '46 bear' front with AH-KEMO-Golston filling guard/center gaps and shutting down anybody's running game.

Down the line, a solid or above average season means that next Spring, you can trade AH for value, and suddenly have additional picks in rounds 1-2 of the draft.

All I see are 'wins' from making AH fit his round frame into Shanny's very square hole.

And it's a vision I'm proud to apologize for.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | August 6, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Truth be told I actually have ocean scented candles encircled around my Albert Haynesworth shrine located in the back room of my basement.

Right above it I have a poster with him bare-chested. At the bottom their are words that read: "I'm on a horse" and every time I cut the lights off the old spice whistle tune is played.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 6, 2010 8:24 AM

LOL Red...well played, sir.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

When the team has to make unscheduled substitutions for a player, or a player doesn't stick to his assignment, it impacts the entire team. It disrupts the entire game plan.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 6, 2010 8:06 AM

Seems to me if such a player is starting, and a big part of the game plan, then the HC needs to be challenged. If a player doesn't know his assignments, or can't stay on the field, who" ultimate responsibility is it to have the best 11 on the field? AH is getting the cardio in now, he's getting the mental reps now, but until he get's lined up and playing alongside the other defensive players we'll have no idea how good he'll be at NT/ RDE. IMO, once Wright gets AH cardio in "football" shape, which btw can be done w/o this test, his knee needs to be rested (ala other injured players) so he can participate in the field. Only then can the team move forward...Dallas game is quickly approaching.

Posted by: TWISI | August 6, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

lol... only a matter of time.


Truth be told I actually have ocean scented candles encircled around my Albert Haynesworth shrine located in the back room of my basement.

Right above it I have a poster with him bare-chested. At the bottom their are words that read: "I'm on a horse" and every time I cut the lights off the old spice whistle tune is played.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 6, 2010 8:24 AM

So you're kind of like Omar Little from The Wire? An Orginal Gay Gangster (OGG) of sorts.

I always knew it..

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 6, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

AH fit his round frame into Shanny's very square hole.

And it's a vision I'm proud to apologize for.


Posted by: gimmesummoe | August 6, 2010 8:30 AM


Um, a gay liason between coach and player solves nothing, but if that's what you choose to daydream about, farbeit from me to deny you, dude...

Sorry Moe...that's a layup I just had to take. Why did you change your handle?

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

brown,

Nemo just said that he's a Jet season ticket holder (which i assume that he's a Jet fan). I don't think he really has a nickle in the quarter aka Haynesworth soap opera. Seems that he really doesn't understand the constant fat jokes and just plain ol' unadulterated Haynesworth hate. I can think of at least five regular posters that have to get in at least 5 Haynesworth bashing post.

To be frustrated with the guy -- disappointed. I get that. But to call him "fat ass" or whatever every time you speak his name is just juvenile. It shows that you or whoever has a strong biased opinion about the man who you obviously didn't care for anyway. So to argue or discuss the Haynesworth drama with you or anyone that shares the same view is pointless.


Not to make it a race thing, this is just an example, but it's like trying to convince a person who is prejudice against blacks that Obama is a good president. Clearly you're never gonna get through to them or make them like him. Even if he goes on to become the greatest president ever. They'll still go out of their way to find some flaw.


hess, I hate the attitude Haynesworth has displayed at times. When he didn't show up for the mandatory workout. I voiced my opinion that wasn't Haynesworth friendly in the least. Thing is that he's here now. No he can't pass the conditioning test which is most definitely inexcusable, but to pile on and pimp out fat jokes every other post is just lame and retarded.

Almost the same as bashing Dan Snyder every post. It becomes monotonous and boring.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 6, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

REDSKINS CAMP DIARY, AUGUST 6, 2010

Day 4 of my experience as an undrafted walk-on nose tackle for the Redskins and I can still hardly believe it. And to think I started out this week as a 50-something, overweight and unemployed chicken plucker with a heart condition living in his mother’s basement – who, despite it all, was able to pass Coach Shanahan’s conditioning test on the first go.

I was wiping the barbecue sauce off my chin last night from my third plate of buffalo wings (damn, they’re good), when who should come walking up to my table by the team owner himself, Dan Snydely.

So he says to me, “Mike thinks you could be our starting nose tackle this season.”

And I says, “Well, I don’t know about that. I’m working and practicing as hard as I can, which apparently is more than we can say about SOME PEOPLE around here. I ain’t throwing anybody under the bus or nothing, but I suspect you know who I mean.”

Well, Snydely hands me a cigar and says he wants to talk about what I think of the coaching staff, the defensive scheme, and what it’s going to take to win this season.

So I tell him I don’t smoke, thanks, or know much about the coaching stuff and schemes, but I am committed to play as hard as I can and work with this team to help us win as many games as we can.

Then he tells me he can’t believe I passed the coach’s conditioning test, so I offer to show him too.

So we head out to the practice field and when he tweets the whistle, I start running my 300 yard shuttles. I do the first set in 60 seconds. As the week has worn on and I’ve practiced more and more with the team, I've been improving my strength, speed and stamina.

So as we sit there resting for the three and a half minutes between shuttles, he tells me about how he tried to take the test before – but failed.

So I says, “Oh, come on Dan. It’s not that hard. Here, let me show you.”

So he climbs up onto my shoulders, yells “Giddy Yap,” and off we go.

Well, we bounce back and forth between the beer cans and have a great old time – and nail the second half of the test in 64 seconds flat.

He is so impressed that he says he wants to sign me to a long term contract – something along the lines of $100 million over several seasons, with more than $42 million of it guaranteed.

Oh yeah, another thing – I think I’ve figured out the difference between playing in high school and in the pros. It’s the distractions. We had a film crew out here this morning saying they were doing auditions for the Real Housewives of DC. So Chris Cooley ran up, but the producers said they already had enough “overexposed peroxide blondes.” They say they're looking for a couple of wives who could hold people’s interest -- perhaps a couple like AH92 and CP26. Well Albert explains he don’t like cameras in his face, so that's a non-starter, while with Clinton, let's just say he couldn't follow the script of make himself understood.

Until next time

Your BFF!

Posted by: Vic1 | August 6, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

"...but until he get's lined up and playing alongside the other defensive players we'll have no idea how good he'll be at NT/RDE."

I think the team will realize that RDE/DT is the best spots for AH.

The NT idea is a fantasy...Kemo/Golston will man the spot all season and do it well.

The team could still slide into 4-man line fronts with Carriker/Daniels-AH-Golston-Carter/Orakpo and dominate.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | August 6, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse


Truth be told I actually have ocean scented candles encircled around my Albert Haynesworth shrine located in the back room of my basement.

Right above it I have a poster with him bare-chested. At the bottom their are words that read: "I'm on a horse" and every time I cut the lights off the old spice whistle tune is played.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 6, 2010 8:24 AM

So you're kind of like Omar Little from The Wire? An Orginal Gay Gangster (OGG) of sorts.

I always knew it..

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 6, 2010 8:36 AM

Co-sign.

Red, think high school football here. No money involved, just the love of the game. If you go to try-outs in shape, you'll make the team, but if you're not, you get CUT !

If you have AH haters, than you have AH lovers. If AH lovers can't come to grips with this fact, then they don't understand the basic love for the game, and the TEAM concept. AH had his chance to be a team player. He still does, but I'm losing faith on that one. Pas the damn test, get on the field, and stop acting out like a child.

Posted by: hessone | August 6, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

lol... only a matter of time.

Truth be told I actually have ocean scented candles encircled around my Albert Haynesworth shrine located in the back room of my basement.

Right above it I have a poster with him bare-chested. At the bottom their are words that read: "I'm on a horse" and every time I cut the lights off the old spice whistle tune is played.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 6, 2010 8:24 AM
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That is just so off the wall that there has to be some truth in it. Tell us the truth now: you secretly want to be Al's love slave, don't you?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 6, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Diesel, your girlfriend gave me the Haynesworth poster that she stole from your little baby brother.


I got the candles from your uncle who jacked them from Bed, Bath, and Beyond.

Speaking of your girlfriend, she burned my bean pie last Sunday. Please let her know that these slip-ups will not be tolerated.


Thanks In Advance.


Your neighborhood OG-Triple-OG,
Red

Posted by: RedDMV | August 6, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Nemo, you know you just said "defensive tackle noted for his speed", right? Surely you can see how ridiculous that statement is...

And I don't have a bias against AH. I just call a spade a spade. Just because it doesn't fit your rosey viewpoint of a guy who is easily one of the biggest underachievers in the NFL doesn't mean it's bias.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

It is really amazing to me how much you truly don't understand the defensive line position and the personnel that plays that position.
Yes Suh is a DT very much noted for his speed. Hence a number two pick.

Posted by: Stu27 | August 6, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Everyone needs to back off Albert. If you bothered to read this report, it clearly states he ALSO put in more than 20 mins of training with Haslett. 20 mins!!! what more can you ask of a man? Show some compassion.

Posted by: SorrySkins | August 6, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Red, I get what you're saying dude but I don't see where you'd lump me in that category. I've called him "Fat Al" only a handful of times and have only done so to switch it up from my customary "AH" abbreviation.

I just don't agree that hating the guy and everything he stands for equates to having a bias or not being able to objective on the topic. Some people can actually separate the two...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Management's goal should be playing Albert as much as possible this year at the highest level possible to set up unloading him in the offseason for a high round draft pick. I.e. the scenario others have mentioned.

I actually believe AH has already been "broken."

For the Redskins, the name of the game is draft picks draft pick draft picks. For AH the name of the game remains AH.

Now the two sides have re-connected out of self-interest.

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 6, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

RED-

It's ok to go after my wife, just leave my girlfriend out of it. She's an angel..

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 6, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse


hess, I hate the attitude Haynesworth has displayed at times. When he didn't show up for the mandatory workout. I voiced my opinion that wasn't Haynesworth friendly in the least. Thing is that he's here now. No he can't pass the conditioning test which is most definitely inexcusable, but to pile on and pimp out fat jokes every other post is just lame and retarded.

Almost the same as bashing Dan Snyder every post. It becomes monotonous and boring.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 6, 2010 8:43 AM

Red, you can stop with the $nyder reference, as I have put that on hold months ago, yet you bring it up everytime you acknowledge my comments, hence, it has become monotonous, Fair deal ?

It's apparent to me that folks use a wide range of language on the board, so it's best to filter out what you think childish, just as Shanahan is doing regarding AH and team matters.

Again, let coach deal with the team and enjoy the ride.

Posted by: hessone | August 6, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

hessone

"Past the damn test, get on the field, and stop acting out like a child."

Gotta question:

How does a guy lose 20-35 pounds like AH did not have the ability to complete the conditioning test?

Answer:

He did no cardio work. And he probably never has.

Must big guys detest running.

I say, everyday, at the end of practice, put the guy on a treadmill/stairmaster, then move to slow mile-long jogs to build up his overall areobic capacity.

Then, after 2 weeks, have him do the test, and he will easily pass it.

Evidence shows he knows how to play football.

But there is also ample evidence now that he never had to do it while in a complete, well-conditioned state.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | August 6, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Some Q & A with Keim

Hogs Haven: Has anyone announced what Albert's current, actual weight is?

No, but in all honesty the issue is not the weight. He actually looks good, especially compared to last season. He looks better than others on the team. But there's a difference between being thinner and being in shape. And if you hurt your knee on the second day running a test, that's not a good sign.

Hogs Haven: The last couple years the defense has always looked miles better than the defense, which unit has been better overall so far (ie: winning the daily battles)?

The defense has been more consistent, but that's fairly typical. The defense is showing a lot of looks and I think that leads to confusion, which leads to some rugged play by the offense. The secondary has looked the best overall.

Hogs Haven: I read that Artis Hicks is getting pushed into the back-field quite a bit. Should we be concerned at this point, and if so, does Rinehart have a chance to win that job? How has he looked coming off his major injury?

Yes, Hicks has looked spotty. He's getting pushed back because he stands too tall. Part of that could be a function of having switched from right tackle; at guard, you have to get a little lower inside. My problem is that 6-6 Adam Carriker is getting lower than the 6-4 Hicks. However, he looked better today and he does seem to work well with Jammal Brown. But I do think it's something to watch (I talked to someone the other day who kept shaking his head over the fact that Hicks was starting). Rinehart has actually looked solid vs. the reserves. He's been more consistent with his base and he's playing with good strength. I'm not yet getting excited over him and right now view him mainly as a guy who, if something happened to Brown then Hicks could move outside and Rinehart could go to RG.

Hogs Haven: Chris Horton seems to be a ghost these days...is he making any plays or still nursing the toe injury? The Redskins have to have the most depth at SS than any team in the league.

I've seen Horton make a play on a blitz, but that's about it. Really, outside of his first couple games in the NFL I haven't seen him make many plays. They do have good depth at SS, but I would prefer Doughty in front of him at this spot because he's a better blitzer.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 6, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Red, think high school football here. No money involved, just the love of the game. If you go to try-outs in shape, you'll make the team, but if you're not, you get CUT !

If you have AH haters, than you have AH lovers. If AH lovers can't come to grips with this fact, then they don't understand the basic love for the game, and the TEAM concept. AH had his chance to be a team player. He still does, but I'm losing faith on that one. Pas the damn test, get on the field, and stop acting out like a child.

Posted by: hessone

See, this is the problem.

This isn't high school football. This ain't the Army. It ain't the terrordome neither. It's the NFL. A league where most guys make more money than you've ever seen with your own eyes and ego's the size of Mt. Kilimanjaro.

"The love of the game" gets lost with most players when they make gajillions of dollars and are subjected to leech like hating fans and have to deal with negative spin artist aka 'the media'.


Also, I'm never one to look at life in absolutes. There is always a neutral factor in every issue. All you have to do is take the emotions out of your opinion for a second to see it.


Agree with the last sentence in your post, except the "stop acting like a child". If he were doing that he wouldn't be here at all. Yes, I know he'll get fined everyday he's not, but only children cut their noses off to spite their face.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 6, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

For the Redskins, the name of the game is draft picks draft pick draft picks. For AH the name of the game remains AH.

Now the two sides have re-connected out of self-interest.

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 6, 2010 8:56 AM

Keep your eyes on the prize: For the Redskins the "name of the game" is to win the Super Bowl. If Haynesworth can help with that, then good.

But our goal is not to make him a star so we can trade him. The simple truth is that the only guys you can trade for value are the ones you want to keep.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 6, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

mOrnin' all.

What... this is a surprise?

At least they're publishing that Tubby is full of SJK.

I still think they oughtta bench him. Maybe they'll just stick to callin' him on his BS. But I don't think that will have the best benefit.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 6, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

"Red, you can stop with the $nyder reference, as I have put that on hold months ago"

which is why instead of using an "S" you use a dollar sign.....right, you've put it on hold...with all due respect, and I'm saying with all due respect that idea ain't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

It is really amazing to me how much you truly don't understand the defensive line position and the personnel that plays that position...

Posted by: Stu27 | August 6, 2010 8:52 AM


If I'm so off, then bless us all with your vast knowledge, oh swammy...

Seems to me this test is more about endurance and agility than it is speed. So saying "he's a speed tackle" isn't saying much.

Plus, AH gets all this praise for being a physical freak and a guy who is abnormally athletic for a DT. So it's not like we're comparing Ted Washington and Tommie Harris, here.

But I'm sure you have some deep, meaningful knowledge to impress us with, so please...raise our level of awareness, oh great one...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Red, you had me on board shame on us for calling Albert fat and stuff, even feeling a bit guilty about some of my posts, right up until I read

"Almost the same as bashing Dan Snyder every post. It becomes monotonous and boring."

Because if you have something nice to say about Dan Snyder, you truly have nothing to say at all.

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 6, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

beeps peeps

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 6, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

brown, in all fairness I can honestly say that I don't view you as a Haynesworth hater.

But it's also fair to say that you don't care for the guy and never have, no?

Posted by: RedDMV | August 6, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

brownwood

"Why did you change your handle?"

I made the change as I've decided to use several handles to let folks know whassup.

Home: gimmesummoe

Work: mistamoe2

Trickin' with a female: onemoetime

Lying on my taxes: youain'tgettinnomoefrommoe

Explaining to the wife where I've been at 4 a.m.: whyyouaskinmoefo?

While on Maury Povich: thatbabydon'tlooklikemoe

Comments from other bloggas: fukmoe

Oooops: That last one is actually what we should all do if we find ourselves stressed.

And I am.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | August 6, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

My client's knee is fine.

Mr. Haynesworth is just showing Shanahan that two can play this cat and mouse game of "You're out of shape" and "I'm hurt, Coach". Shanahan is currently standing in the corner of a room with a wet paintbrush in hand, wondering how he painted himself into said corner.

Again, there are special rules for special players. If the Redskins wanted a track star, they should've signed Usain Bolt. Just plug him at nose tackle and fuhgedaboutit, right?

The way out of this corner that Shanahan's painted himself into is easy.

The Redskins need to drop the idiotic pretext that they're making Mr. Haynesworth pass this conditioning test to protect him from hurting himself on the field and while they're at it, sweeten his contract to give him more guaranteed money. This might smooth his ruffled feathers but I give you no promises.

Checkmate.

Posted by: HaynesworthsAgent | August 6, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

The MRI results for the knee of Albert Haynes-Girth, Butterworth, Shuttleworth, Haynes-Worthless show about as much as this blog in July and August...


Zippy.

When it comes to that fat sack of sh*t, all MRI really stands for is...

Meager
Return on
Investment

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 6, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse


This isn't high school football. This ain't the Army. It ain't the terrordome neither. It's the NFL. A league where most guys make more money than you've ever seen with your own eyes and ego's the size of Mt. Kilimanjaro.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 6, 2010 9:03 AM

Co-sign, doesn't mean I like it. Maybe it's time for some players to realize the athletic gifts they have, and work hard at being their best. AH compaired himself to Reggie White, then he said he wants to be the best defensive player in the league. How can he accomplish this being out of shape. I think he is still being childish, as I for one think he's faking this knee thing and being defiant. Open your mind to other folks thoughts, Red.

Posted by: hessone | August 6, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

"Samson, this was no simple shuttle run. It was twice the number of turns after half the distance that most NFL teams run. It is like saying that because Brady got hurt in the opener, he was obviously not fit to start the season. False logic on your part, sir.
Posted by: Nemo24601"

Nope. It's a standard conditioning test used by teams with players who didn't participate in 50% of the off-season conditioning program. There are two levels of the test, and this is more rigorous of the two. But many players have completed it successfully.

Of course, they were in pretty good condition.

Besides, Nemo, your statement that the test was the cause of Albert's knee 'injury' (which he apparently doesn't have) is false. Not just false logic -- factually false.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

"The Redskins need to drop the idiotic pretext that they're making Mr. Haynesworth pass this conditioning test to protect him from hurting himself on the field and while they're at it, sweeten his contract to give him more guaranteed money. This might smooth his ruffled feathers but I give you no promises.Checkmate.Posted by: HaynesworthsAgent"

This is a troll. Don't feed the troll and it goes away.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse


"Red, you can stop with the $nyder reference, as I have put that on hold months ago"

which is why instead of using an "S" you use a dollar sign.....right, you've put it on hold...with all due respect, and I'm saying with all due respect that idea ain't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2010 9:07 AM

SUPPORT SNYDER-SUPPORT SNYDER-SUPPORT SNYDER!!!!

There bean, is that better. I've now done my penance, and I ask for your forgiveness.

Posted by: hessone | August 6, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

"But there is also ample evidence now that [Haynesworth] never had to do it while in a complete, well-conditioned state.Posted by: gimmesummoe"

I think that's a fair statement. Looks to me like we're dealing with a guy who conditions himself to a certain level and not beyond. Based on the evidence, that's a level that allows him to start about 75% of games during a season and play maybe half the defensive snaps. The rest of the time he's on the sidelines watching the other guys work.

You can see how that must have affected Jeff Fisher. Knowing that when Albert's contract year came up, Tennessee would have an All-World player, but if they signed him to the huge bucks he wanted, his performance would drop right off again.

They didn't have the $$ anyway, so they let Washington do it.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

America's Game: The Superbowl Champions

The 2010 Redskins as told by

Mike Shanahan
Albert Haynesworth
Donovan McNabb

Narrated by Wale

Coming in August 2011.

Book it.

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 6, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

This isn't high school football. This ain't the Army. It ain't the terrordome neither. It's the NFL. A league where most guys make more money than you've ever seen with your own eyes and ego's the size of Mt. Kilimanjaro.

"Most guys now all of them wich they should all be making $$ would you want to practice in the heat we have been lately?
Let me ask you this on your job are you asked to block a 268 pound man who's trying to kill your boss?
Most of these guys will need there wives to help them out of bed when they retire.

Co-sign, doesn't mean I like it. Maybe it's time for some players to realize the athletic gifts they have, and work hard at being their best. AH compaired himself to Reggie White, then he said he wants to be the best defensive player in the league. How can he accomplish this being out of shape. I think he is still being childish, as I for one think he's faking this knee thing and being defiant. Open your mind to other folks thoughts, Red.

Back in the day most Farmers thought this and they died broke.

Idoit Fans!

Posted by: shamken | August 6, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

AH gets all this praise for being a physical freak and a guy who is abnormally athletic for a DT. So it's not like we're comparing Ted Washington and Tommie Harris, here.

But I'm sure you have some deep, meaningful knowledge to impress us with, so please...raise our level of awareness, oh great one...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 6, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

brownie, I think he's a physical freak because he can move a double team c & OG back 5 yds, not beause he can beat a rb to the sideline.

And to RedDMV, I don't think the hate for AH is racial. I think some people are jealous of all the cash he has received. But to me, the money is irrelevant. He's on our roster, so how can we get the best use of his skills.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 6, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

1) Who should be in the Hall of Fame first:

a) Pat Fischer

2) Which of the following Redskins who were cut last year should we have kept for another season?

e) none of those scrubs

3) Who's the biggest Redskins hater?

c) Lavar Arrington

he tries to disguise it as love and heart, but he's not foolin' me.


4) Best rant by coach/manager

d) "You play to win the game" (Herm Edwards
e) "PLAYOFFS!!!!" (Mora)

too close to call

honorable mention to billy martin

5) I'd rather go shoe shopping with my wife than:
c) watch Poker on TV


6) Who's the "Summer 2010 jackAZZ"?
c) Albert Haynesworth

7) It's 4th and 2...who are you handing the ball off to?

d) none of the above, marcus allen

8) I can put my hands on one of the following albums in the next 10 minutes:

d) Paliament Funkadelic

what? can you imagine doobie in your funk?

9) What was funnier (in a sad way)?
b) Zorn's swinging gate play

Posted by: zatoichi77 | August 6, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

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