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Posted at 2:30 PM ET, 12/14/2010

The long road to a successful 3-4 defense

By Jason Reid

Some have criticized Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan for changing the team's defensive scheme from a 4-3 base front to a 3-4 alignment despite it being clear that the current roster was not ideally constituted to support his plan.

The Redskins are last in the NFL in defense, giving up an average of 394.8 yards per game. Opponents average 260.5 yards passing (29th) against Washington and 134.4 rushing (28th).

Obviously, those numbers are awful, especially when you consider that the Redskins have had a top-10 defense eight times since the 2000 season. The team ranked lower than 10th only in 2003 and 2006 (25th and 31st, respectively).

"After actually seeing the scheme, seeing how we're supposed to play, you knew it was gonna be a situation where we still needed to get the right kinda guys in here," said cornerback and defensive co-captain DeAngelo Hall. "Everybody's auditioning to see if they're the right fit."

Did strong safety LaRon Landry put on too much muscle during the past offseason? Sound off in the Redskins Tailgate Zone.

Although the Redskins' poor defense has played a big part in their 5-8 record, Shanahan believes the 3-4 gives him the best chance to win Super Bowls. And that's what this is all about for him.

Since that's Shanahan's outlook, it made sense to get started immediately with the inevitable growing pains that accompany making such a major change. Defensive coordinator Jim Haslett has Shanahan's full support, and both men realized there likely would be some rocky moments if they took this path.

Shanahan and Haslett discussed the situation before they prepared to join Washington prior to this season. Shanahan made it clear that he was committed to the 3-4 defense for the long haul, and Haslett plans to make it work.

Through the draft (Washington currently has seven picks, including selections in the first and second rounds) and free agency, the Redskins are expected to focus on acquiring defensive linemen and linebackers who are well suited for the 3-4. The Redskins must improve their edge rushing opposite star linebacker Brian Orakpo and make major strides in coverage at the linebacker position as well.

Shanahan and Haslett say they will not be deterred by one rocky season.

"It's a day-by-day process," Shanahan said generally about building the type of team he wants. "There's a lot to do in the offseason relative to the draft and free agency, as we all know.

"And we've still got three games of evaluation, again, [against] three pretty good and talented football teams. We'll get a good feel of who will be with us after we take a look at the last three games of however players play."

By Jason Reid  | December 14, 2010; 2:30 PM ET
Categories:  3-4 defense, Brian Orakpo, DeAngelo Hall, Jim Haslett, Mike Shanahan  
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Comments

Looking forward to another offseason championship!

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 14, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Looking forward to another offseason championship!

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 14, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Last December was torture. Quinton Ganther? A starting RB? God hates Jim Zorn. And so do I.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 14, 2010 2:35 PM

Well, God's not showing much love for Shanahan right now either.

Looking forward to next season.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 14, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

"And we've still got three games of evaluation, again, [against] three pretty good and talented football teams. We'll get a good feel of who will be with us after we take a look at the last three games of however players play."


I'm wondering who still wants to be with them next year? Carter, Jarmon, Haynesworth, Rodgers are probably all hoping to ship out.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 14, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

When you take that bus, you get there.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 14, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Ryan Clark and Lee Torrance!

Posted by: poulosjoe | December 14, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Ryan Clark and Lee Torrance!

Posted by: poulosjoe | December 14, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Ryan Clark and Lee Torrance!

Posted by: poulosjoe | December 14, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Ryan Clark and Lee Torrance!

Posted by: poulosjoe | December 14, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Ryan Clark and Lee Torrance!

Posted by: poulosjoe | December 14, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I will go on record in saying, if Sam Bradford was our QB this year, we would have won at least 2 more games...I mean look at what he is doing in St. Louis. He has no1 (other than and is still putting up better #'s than Mc5. At least here he would have a few better targets.

Difference between Sam and Mc5: Accuracy. Mc5's bad accuracy has cost us some points, drives, and games.

Posted by: roccoskins | December 14, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I will go on record in saying, if Sam Bradford was our QB this year, we would have won at least 2 more games...I mean look at what he is doing in St. Louis. He has no1 (other than SJ39) and is still putting up better #'s than Mc5. At least here he would have a few better targets.

Difference between Sam and Mc5: Accuracy. Mc5's bad accuracy has cost us some points, drives, and games.

Posted by: roccoskins | December 14, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing: no Haynesworth equals improved threads.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 14, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

At the risk of stating the obvious -- the other teams that appear to be most successful in running 3-4 schemes are also (not so coincidentally) the most adept at tackling -- a definite weakness for the beloved burgundy and gold.

For all the fancy plans and schemes -- success is contingent on grasping and executing the basics.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 14, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Rocky McIntosh has really played bad the last couple of weeks -- let's let him leave in free agency.

I would move Lorenzo Alexander inside and see if he can play inside linebacker in the 3-4. London Fletcher isn't going to play forever and they need to start identifying who can play the 3-4 well.

Posted by: rb-freedom-for-all | December 14, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing: no Haynesworth equals improved threads.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 14, 2010 2:47 PM

I wonder what he's doing with his free time? Wish there was someone who could keep us updated.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 14, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Alan, if anyone is in the Big Guy's doghouse out in Ashburn, I'd say it's Gano.

This posting by Reid is bordering inane. Ranking defenses by yards allowed is the province of high-functioning morons like NFL Today commentators.

There is only one way to rank a defense, and that is in points allowed. If we went by yards, then San Diego has the best defense in the league. Who the hell thinks the Chargers are the best defense in the league?

The Redskins are giving up 23.8 PPG, which puts them in the bottom third, but by no means are they the worst defense in the league.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 14, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Monk811/PlayAction are so obviously the same voice that if you're not sock puppets you're aging gay "partners" who have been together so long that they look alike, talk alike. hessone/ih8 have very different voices and no one would suspect they're sock puppets except that hessone keeps giving the game away.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 14, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Oh I get it! Beep-beep is gay and he's trying to use his 'Gay-dar' to call others out. You're good beep, picking out sock puppets by morning, labeling people from your gay-dar by afternoon. You're like the gay Sherlock Holmes. Gaylock Beeps, I kinda like the sound of that!

Posted by: monk811 | December 14, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I think that we should bite the bullet and trade up for Andrew Luck he is a better prospect than Bradford was and with us prolly having a top 10pick we might be able to send away fat al, our 1st this year, rocky if he is franchised and a 2nd rd pick next year to move up to 1st overall I would love to do that to bring in a REAL QB! The best QB prospect since peyton Manning! Luck is the perfect smart football iq qb for this wco system we run! HTTR! Luck would be ready to be a full time starter in 2012 and we should build around him! This kid would be a star for the Redskins he is freaking awesome I love that play when he ran over that safety or lb from cal!!! Cam newton would not fit this system and he is a spread qb with a football iq that doesn't even come close to Luck's! Newton would be a bust if we draft him!

Posted by: warriorking111285 | December 14, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vic1

For all the fancy plans and schemes -- success is contingent on grasping and executing the basics.

Amen.

The good people at NFL Playbook on the NFL Network point out that the redskin failures on defense are the result of coaching--not a scheme shift:

--corners play too soft off receivers and don't get a jam

--Kedric Golston (and AH) were easily blocked when they play defensive end as they took the inside shoulder of the tackle in front of them, giving away the outside

--the team needs a solid NT

--the free safety is often out of position

--cutback runs occur because backside defenders are often out of position 'chasing' plays across the field (see the touchdown runs in the Giants' game)

Too, we need a real outside linebacker opposite Orakpo and a better free safety to pair with LL.


Posted by: MistaMoe | December 14, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Plus, the post ignores what's probably the most important position in a 3-4, and that's the nose tackle.

The hardest players to find in a 4-3 are the DE. The hardest player to find in a 3-4 is the NT. The allure of the 3-4 is that you only need 2 NT, but probably 4 DE. The Redskins might have 1 legit NT, if they're going to run a 3-4 next year they need another one, a starter.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 14, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what he's doing with his free time? Wish there was someone who could keep us updated.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 14, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Don't know it for a fact -- but I suspect he's still working on the "expedited appeal" of his suspension.

Now mind you, he's probably not moving so quickly that he might actually have to play another game for Washington -- but just fast enough to somehow justify payment in full for the last four games of the season when he couldn't suit up, along with "pain and suffering," legal fees and incidental expenses -- i.e. stippas, masseuses, love lotions, liquor, etc.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 14, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

The Cork

No? How about Steve Nash? He's a better bounce passer.

I wish I had thought of this.


Posted by: MistaMoe |

Milton "The Thief of Bad Gags" Berle, after hearing a very good joke, noted, "That's funny, I wish I'd said that."

The joke teller responded:

"Don't worry, Milton, you will."

Posted by: TheCork | December 14, 2010 2:56 PM

Posted by: TheCork | December 14, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I would trade all of you retarded, so-called in-the-know fans for a kicking tee and some butt balm.

There are a hand full of players (we all know who they are) who are going to be the base of this organization for the next decade and the rest. The ones that contributed to a 4-12 season last year and the ones that are really practice squad guys being thrust into the lineup out of necessity call fall off a cliff for all I care.

Not sure why so many are concerned with amending schemes to fit the "talents" of players that led us to a 4-12 record.

Screw 'em all. I couldn't care less if they are nice guys or special teams standouts, our beloved team sucks right now and it's because our players suck.

We will get better under Allen, Shanny, Shanny and Hazlenutt.

The Skins are a heroine addict. Withdrawls are messy and ugly. Welcome to the season of withdrawls. It only gets better after this.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 14, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins are giving up 23.8 PPG, which puts them in the bottom third, but by no means are they the worst defense in the league.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 14, 2010 2:50 PM

PPG is definitely the bottom line stat when assessing a defense...but what about teams that may give up an abnormal number of points on returns (special teams and turnovers)...that should be factored in.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 14, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I think that we should bite the bullet and trade up for Andrew Luck he is a better prospect than Bradford was and with us prolly having a top 10pick we might be able to send away fat al, our 1st this year, rocky if he is franchised and a 2nd rd pick next year to move up to 1st overall I would love to do that to bring in a REAL QB! The best QB prospect since peyton Manning! Luck is the perfect smart football iq qb for this wco system we run! HTTR! Luck would be ready to be a full time starter in 2012 and we should build around him! This kid would be a star for the Redskins he is freaking awesome I love that play when he ran over that safety or lb from cal!!! Cam newton would not fit this system and he is a spread qb with a football iq that doesn't even come close to Luck's! Newton would be a bust if we draft him!

Posted by: warriorking111285 | December 14, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

ok, 2011 mock draft on CBS, the Redskins take either Mark Ingram or Jake Locker. HA!

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 14, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Don't know it for a fact -- but I suspect he's still working on the "expedited appeal" of his suspension.

Now mind you, he's probably not moving so quickly that he might actually have to play another game for Washington -- but just fast enough to somehow justify payment in full for the last four games of the season when he couldn't suit up, along with "pain and suffering," legal fees and incidental expenses -- i.e. stippas, masseuses, love lotions, liquor, etc.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 14, 2010 2:58 PM

This would be a lot more convincing, Vic, if we read it in Haynesworth's Suspension Diary.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 14, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

IMHO the OL is not the area of greatest need for this team. My prediction for 2011 O line
LT Williams
RG Lipizzaner AKA Lichtensteiger
C Montgomery
LG Heyer
LT Brown

Heyer seemed to do pretty well at guard versus the "Titans".

DL, however, is in DIRE need of an infusion of talent. Looks like the 2011 draft is going to be well stocked with DE types. Not sure if there's a BJ Raji in there, but that's what they really need.

Posted by: dpc2003

I was gonna vehemently disagree, but then I get your point and its a good one. I'll mildly disagree.

The switch to the 3-4 really decimated our DL. We actually have some OK talent, but we have almost no one who really fits that scheme well.

I prefer a 4-3, though I'm open to either. I have 2 basic issues with a 3-4. One, I prefer to have more power guys on the line, creating pressure on the passer, and making it harder to find runs lanes. Of course, 3-4 advocates will say you can do the same thing, with more options on how to bring pressure. Both sides have a point and both schemes can be effective.

But ...

where the 3-4 struggles more, is that its much harder to find the right people for that scheme. An NT is tough to find, and even if you get one, you really need 2, since the best NTs usually need to take a break after a few plays. The DEs are also a more specialized breed.

A 3-4 LB or DL guy can probably play well in a 3-4 scheme. But the reverse isn't true. Which is why I get the point about the DL being such an issue. Still say the OL is more important, but the 3-4 has created a bunch of DL holes.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 14, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

@warriorking111285, I hate to say it but I agree. I think Shanny will strongly consider trading up to get Andrew Luck. I really think he wanted Bradford last year. There is a huge drop off from Luck to the other QB's in this draft. Yes, some of the other QB's may turn out to be great. But I think Luck has a chance to be one of the greats. He is very, very smart. And is ready to play today in the NFL. I would drop my man crush on Julio Jones if we draft Andrew Luck.

As I said, yes O line is a problem, but its fixable. Mc5 throwing balls to the other team, and into the ground, at this stage is not fixable. He will only get worse, IMO.

How about our 1st, Mc5, and a pick in next years draft for the #1 overall selection in the 2011 draft. The Panthers would welcome Mc5 with open arms.

Posted by: roccoskins | December 14, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I will go on record in saying, if Sam Bradford was our QB this year, we would have won at least 2 more games...I mean look at what he is doing in St. Louis. He has no1 (other than and is still putting up better #'s than Mc5. At least here he would have a few better targets.

Difference between Sam and Mc5: Accuracy. Mc5's bad accuracy has cost us some points, drives, and games.

Posted by: roccoskins | December 14, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I'm sure that 1.7% better completion percentage would make all the difference.

Not to take anything away bc his #s are good, but he has played a pretty easy schedule. Steven Jackson and their D, deserve credit too.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 14, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

WalterFootball.com has the Skins picking 10th and taking Julio Jones.

Man, I hope John Beck is a player.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 14, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

quantifying an OL seems like tricky stuff, but if someone wants to try it, go ahead. fwiw, from the perspective of these guys, Campbell has is worse in OAK than Donovan has it here. Just more to mull when the Campbell/McNabb conversation inevitably flares up.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 14, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Zelenograd (auto spell for Zeke)- the net net of those rankings is that they are primarily generated by QB play and have less to do about actual OL play.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 14, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

The Skins are a heroine addict.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl

We do like a female hero, don't we?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 14, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I would love to bring in a much better 3-4 DC like Dick Lebeau and send haslett back to the ufl! He doesn't play the right coverage at the right time and we get blown up and I have never seen a redskin team that tackles this bad to me that's on the DC

Posted by: warriorking111285 | December 14, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Chick superheroes are hot!

Posted by: PlayAction | December 14, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I would trade all of you retarded, so-called in-the-know fans for a kicking tee and some butt balm.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 14, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey beep, I think your gaydar should be going off right now!!!

That's great PF, now we know how you get the gerbil up your ass, your 'partner' puts him on the kicking tee, and he kicks it through your heavily applied butt balm cheeks! I can just hear the 4-play now:

"Ok, here it comes!! 1.....2.....3....KICK! It's up, and it's good!!!"

Posted by: monk811 | December 14, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Not sure why so many are concerned with amending schemes to fit the "talents" of players that led us to a 4-12 record....

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 14, 2010 2:59 PM

The team that just beat us, and holds a (8-5) record right now, was (3-13) last year.

Their new coach is getting the most out of basically the same players that led them to a (3-13) record last year.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 14, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

After this comment, I can't wait to see how the FIFA head reacts about Jews wanting to attend ...

(CNN) -- Gay basketball star John Amaechi has criticized the head of soccer's ruling body for his comments about homosexuals planning to attend the 2022 World Cup in Qatar.

FIFA president Sepp Blatter was unable to keep a straight face when asked at a press conference in South Africa what to advise gay people who hope to go to the Arab emirate.

The mainly Muslim country, which will host the tournament for the first time, forbids same-sex relationships by law.

"I would say that they should refrain from sexual activities," Blatter answered on Monday, after a long pause.

"We are living in a world of freedom and when the World Cup will be in Qatar, this will be in 2022. And you can see in the Middle East the opening of this culture. It is another culture because it is another religion, but in football we have no boundaries."

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 14, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

This would be a lot more convincing, Vic, if we read it in Haynesworth's Suspension Diary.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 14, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Unfortuantely, the diary writer is on sabatical after another poster said it got his gay-dar tingling and left him worried about his own sexuality. True story, dat -- and I would never want to be accused of contributing to the delinquency of a sodomite.

However, did note the Washington Post is running a special "Where's Albert" competition -- where readers are invited to identify the Big Dood in various crowd pictures taken at different whoring capitals of the world -- such as Amsterdam, Bangkok and Las Vegas.

Tag line: Winner gets two tickets to the season finale against the Gnats -- while the losers get four.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 14, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Chick superheroes are hot!

Posted by: PlayAction | December 14, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I got it!!!! I'll make the cheerleaders wear Wonder Woman outfits!!! It's a plan, now all you gotta do is become a billionare, better get started Play!

Posted by: monk811 | December 14, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Their new coach is getting the most out of basically the same players that led them to a (3-13) record last year.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 14, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Their "new coach" is the same guy that led them to that 3-13 record.

Change in record is result of him having time to bring in "his type of players".

Also, helps Freeman is in his 2nd year and a full-time starter.

Try to at least know the facts before trying to make a point.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 14, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Not sure why so many are concerned with amending schemes to fit the "talents" of players that led us to a 4-12 record....

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 14, 2010 2:59 PM

The team that just beat us, and holds a (8-5) record right now, was (3-13) last year.

Their new coach is getting the most out of basically the same players that led them to a (3-13) record last year.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 14, 2010 3:11 PM |

That's fantastic Alan. That doesn't make our personnel any better. Tampa is a far better team from top to bottom. They have a franchise QB, big, fast WR's and a TE that would start on any team.

We don't even have that.

And no, Colley (who I love) would not start for any team and is not as good as that jerkoff Winslow.

We are so far behind Tampa it's not even funny. The only thing we have on them is age.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 14, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Good point PlayAction, I don't know if special teams is factored out or not. Pick-6 and fumble returns should also be factored out.

I like Phillip Taylor at Baylor for NT, he's a little tall (6'4") but could probably add to his 340#, is a smart guy who could be fall into the second round next year. Steven Paea from Oregon State is a great 3-4 DE prospect and an absolute animal.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 14, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

from the SportsBog

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We've purchased some of these items for your review.

Which is the best, you ask?

A sexy, real life latex Donovan McNabb blowup doll that doesn't make the owner feel as good as he thought it would.

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It's a high tech, real life doll that has the ability to make bad throws in three different directions: low, overhead, and off-stride.

It does a heckuva Andy Reid imitation.

Even with these skills, though, it's legs are gone, so don't think you can fold the doll in all kinds of kinky positions should you want to get under center.

It does have charisma and leadership skill--but this is all that separates it from the Jason Campbell doll you just tossed out.

We feel you'll get frustrated by this doll, and suggest you wait until the April NFL shopping season when it's larger version--the Cam Newton model--is ready for purchase.

That one promises to have all the tools you want for ultimate pleasure and satisfaction.

Provided, of course, you're willing to show his father the money.


Posted by: MistaMoe | December 14, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I would trade all of you retarded, so-called in-the-know fans for a kicking tee and some butt balm.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 14, 2010 2:59 PM


Yikes! What are you planning to do to that poor kicking tee?

On second thought, don't answer that.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 14, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Their new coach is getting the most out of basically the same players that led them to a (3-13) record last year.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 14, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Their "new coach" is the same guy that led them to that 3-13 record.

Change in record is result of him having time to bring in "his type of players".

Also, helps Freeman is in his 2nd year and a full-time starter.

Try to at least know the facts before trying to make a point.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8

Thing is the players he got rid of ... were Bruce Allen's players

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 14, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Zeke,
There are pros and cons regarding personnel in each defensive front. As before, the most difficult players to find in each scheme are the 3-4 NT and in the 4-3, the DE.

What I like about the 3-4 is that LB are relatively easy to find, and the DE can be less quick/strong than a 4-3 DE.

Now, bear in mind, I'm not talking about Pro Bowl talent, but quality starters.

Posted by: dpc2003 | December 14, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Bruce Allen also brought division titles to Oakland and Tampa.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 14, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Thing is the players he got rid of ... were Bruce Allen's players

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 14, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Maybe, maybe not.

Don't know what his role was in personnel. How much say did Gruden have? And there are the Glazers, who have a rep. as not being the best owners.

Either way, he's not choosing the players here.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 14, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I got it!!!! I'll make the cheerleaders wear Wonder Woman outfits!!! It's a plan, now all you gotta do is become a billionare, better get started Play!

Posted by: monk811 | December 14, 2010 3:16 PM

Monk...I've done my Due Diligence on this hair brained scheme that we came up with earlier to own the Redskins...and came up with the following conclusions --

1. I'll never have the billion dollars to buy the team.

2. I really don't want crazy fans like hessone running around calling me a dive ass crappy owner all day.

The outfits sound good though.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 14, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

End the Lo Alexander OLB experiment for next season and move him to DE.

Let #52 walk.

Hide OSackpo when he isn't rushing.

Draft a NT in the 2nd round, Cam Newton in the 1st.

Get qaulity FA Gaurds.

Look to resign Jamal Grown if it is deemed he won't complain playing RT and if doctors think his hip issue will go away.

Let CR22 walk.

Resign Heyer as a backup.

Trade Sleepy for 'on the fence' starter anywhere on the field and move Logan Paulsen up.

Pencil it in!

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 14, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Zeke,
There are pros and cons regarding personnel in each defensive front. As before, the most difficult players to find in each scheme are the 3-4 NT and in the 4-3, the DE.

What I like about the 3-4 is that LB are relatively easy to find, and the DE can be less quick/strong than a 4-3 DE.

Now, bear in mind, I'm not talking about Pro Bowl talent, but quality starters.

Posted by: dpc2003

We got a great 4-3 DE in Orakpo (Pro Bowl) and we had another good DE in Carter (top 10 in sacks). That combo was about a 4 year solution. By your analysis, we actually had the toughest 4-3 issue solved for the next several years.

Orakpo is better with his hand down. But he can play OLB in a 3-4 -- though whenever he's in pass coverage, the other side is happy.

The hardest guys to find kn either front 7 are the NTs. And what makes it worse is that you need more than 1 because they usually can't play every down. Notice how gassed the Raven front was last night and how Houston just blew up and down the field.

We took basically a solved problem on the DL and created several holes. Meanwhile, we have 1 OLB who shouldn't be in coverage and a few others who just aren't suited for the spot (Carter, Lo, etc).

As of now, we have exactly 1 guy who I have confidence will be in our 3-4 even just 2 years from now -- Orakpo -- and he's not playing his best spot.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 14, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Hey, it's Dallas week and we don't want to be in a tie with them for last place when the final whistle blows. This is a must win for pride and all that rubbish. Don't we want braging rights during the off season so we can at least say we went 2-0 against America's team? What do we have to do to beat Dallas this week?
v

Posted by: DeployedFan | December 14, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Early predictions for the Cowboys game?

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 14, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Early predictions for the Cowboys game?

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 14, 2010 3:48 PM

Pain.

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 14, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Can you say Hunter the Punter? Not anymore

Double

beep-beep

Posted by: beep-beep | December 14, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Too, we need a real outside linebacker opposite Orakpo and a better free safety to pair with LL.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 14, 2010 2:57 PM
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agreed....

Posted by: BootneyFarnsworth | December 14, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Hey, it's Dallas week and we don't want to be in a tie with them for last place when the final whistle blows. This is a must win for pride and all that rubbish. Don't we want braging rights during the off season so we can at least say we went 2-0 against America's team? What do we have to do to beat Dallas this week?
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Posted by: DeployedFan | December 14, 2010 3:47 PM
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agreed we need this game...and to beat them we have to do everything we did against Tampa but this time score when we have the chance...

Posted by: BootneyFarnsworth | December 14, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Early predictions for the Cowboys game?

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 14, 2010 3:48 PM
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We Win!

Posted by: BootneyFarnsworth | December 14, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

If Haslett is the answer, I don't want to know the question.

What a horrendous football coach. The Vinny Cerrato of assistants.

Posted by: fufighter2121 | December 14, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

D coach is terrible!...But Shannahan should have made better defensive adjustments during the season. He is way too stubborn!

Posted by: mmagua | December 15, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

D coach is terrible!...But Shannahan should have made better defensive adjustments during the season. He is way too stubborn!

Posted by: mmagua | December 15, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

D coach is terrible!...But Shannahan should have made better defensive adjustments during the season. He is way too stubborn!

Posted by: mmagua | December 15, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Haslett needs to be fired at the end of the season. Our defense is just putrid...actually, fire him now. Why wait? EVERYONE is accountable Coach Haslett, thanks for your lousy service - don't let the door hit you in the axx on the way out

Posted by: Craightond | December 15, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Early predictions for the Cowboys game?

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 14, 2010 3:48 PM

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28-7, Dallas *weeps*

Posted by: Tiffany010 | December 15, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

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