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One of the worst defensive games in Redskins history

By Barry Svrluga

Though a lot of the talk and debate following the Redskins' utterly embarrassing 59-28 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles will center around the play of - and the contract given to - quarterback Donovan McNabb, the game also further emphasized Washington's myriad defensive problems under first-year coordinator Jim Haslett.

According to Stats, Inc. - which analyzes every game dating back to 1960 -- the 592 yards the Redskins allowed the Eagles last night is the 25th largest total for a single game in that 50-year span. (The Redskins still hold the record for most yards gained - 676 against Detroit in November 1990.)

The Redskins allowed 615 yards to the Arizona Cardinals in 1996 - but they nearly won that game, allowing 21 points in the fourth quarter and losing 37-34 on a field goal with 33 seconds left in overtime, meaning Arizona had nearly an entire fifth quarter to rack up more yards.

The 592 yards given up by the defense is the most in an NFL game this year, by 47 yards, surpassing the 545 yards Seattle allowed Oakland in Week 8. And their average of 415.3 yards per game not only overtook Houston for the worst total in the league, but it would be the fifth-worst average in the history of the NFL. The only worse defenses: The 1950 Baltimore Colts (450.2 yards/game), 1950 New York Yanks (435.0), 1981 Baltimore Colts (424.6) and 1951 New York Yanks (415.9).

"Yards don't mean that much," cornerback Carlos Rogers said Monday night. "Sometimes, you can let teams drive down the field and kick field goals."

That, though, didn't happen against Philadelphia, which scored eight touchdowns and one field goal in the shellacking. The Redskins are now allowing 25.4 points per game, seventh-highest in the league and Washington's worst average since 1998, when it yielded 26.3 points an outing. The Redskins also have given up 27 touchdowns; the most they have relinquished in the 16-game-schedule era is 46 in 1988, a number they are now threatening. They're on pace to give up 48.

The kicker: Since 1960, only eight teams have yielded more than 59 points in a single game. The most recent was the Houston Oilers, who gave up 61 to Cincinnati in 1989, 21 years ago.

"Just got embarrassed, from start to finish," cornerback DeAngelo Hall said. "Just got embarrassed. Its frustrating to go out there on national TV and play the way we played. Anybody that thought we had a chance to go to the playoffs and play quality football, anybody that was watching that game thought it was a joke. So we got embarrassed."

By Barry Svrluga  | November 16, 2010; 1:30 PM ET
Categories:  3-4 defense, Jim Haslett  
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FIRE HASLETT!!!! blache had boring defense that were in the top 10 and rarely gave up more than 300 yrds a game BUT those defense always always gave the skins a chance to win games... bag the 3-4 and haslett!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 16, 2010 12:29 PM

"Always change horses mid stream!" So, now that we've got this mix of players that don't fit well in a 3-4 or a 4-3, after nine games let's get a new DC? How about we get Haslett the players he needs?

Posted by: beep-beep | November 16, 2010 12:34 PM
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the defense has been a disgrace all year... granted they did face a buzz saw last nite but they have been a disgrace all year... there have been great individual efforts (fletcher, landry, rak... meangelo for one game) but they don't play as a unit... the 4-3 was never broke... why change???

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 16, 2010 1:01 P

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 16, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I still can't believe I stood in the rain and watched that awful performance. I was hoping to wake up this morning and realize it was just a dream...

Posted by: oh_boy1 | November 16, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

No way Snyder had anything to do with the McNabb contract extension. If he did it would have been identical to what was originally reported (40 mil guar). Instead it was a brilliant deal that allows us to get out this year or next depending on how McNabb plays.

The timing isn't suspicious either. An extension was going to be hammered out prior to the season or during the bye week.

As far as an "apology" contract to McNabb.. Go kick rocks barefooted.

I'd like a report on Rabach's contract extension to see our escape clause in that one..

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 16, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Really? I hadn't noticed from the score. The strategy of wearing the Eagles' offense down by letting them run 100 yards every time they got out there really didn't pay off.

Posted by: apocolypsecow1 | November 16, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Last night was completely ridiculous. The defense should be humiliated.

Never in my life have I seen something like that.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 16, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth falls down, doesn't get back up.

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Posted by: hailrskins | November 16, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse


right...... there you go hess...have at it...seems like something worth dissecting....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 16, 2010 1:20 PM |

nothing more to dissect greg. some folks still don't trust snyder. can you blame them after 10 years of his owning the redskins ?

Posted by: hessone | November 16, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

ufb........

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 16, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

One of the worst defensive games in Redskins history


What burns is that the performance came after a BYE.

The next four games are just as daunting as last night's was:

Titans

Vikes

Bucs

Giants


And I'm sure our defense will be ready able to stand up to the challenge over the next 4 games as they were last night.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | November 16, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse


Haynesworth falls down, doesn't get back up.

Posted by: hailrskins | November 16, 2010 1:52 PM |

in the process he left his man free to block another redskin, in this case AC99. so, where's the folks that say he's our best defender ? the dude is a lazy pos

Posted by: hessone | November 16, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Suisham signed by Pitt.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 16, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse


beeps

Posted by: hessone | November 16, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

They better tighten that sh#t up.

That defense is too talented to do that.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 16, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

That was the worst beat-down of an opposing defense I've ever seen and I've been watching football for 40 years.

McNabb or the rest of 'skins' hideaous offense didn't have anything to do with this. No, this belongs squarely on the shoulders of the weakest link on this team, THE DEFENSE.

Because of the attrocious defense, I always believed when we hit 4 games that would be it. Now that fate is cast in titanium clad cement.

THE 'SKINS WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER GAME IN 2010.

Haslett is gone at the end of another dreadful season of Redskins football. Maybe shanny lil-shanny should be gone too.

Posted by: alocowboy | November 16, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

That was the worst beat-down of an opposing defense I've ever seen and I've been watching football for 40 years.

McNabb or the rest of 'skins' hideaous offense didn't have anything to do with this. No, this belongs squarely on the shoulders of the weakest link on this team, THE DEFENSE.

Because of the attrocious defense, I always believed when we hit 4 games that would be it. Now that fate is cast in titanium clad cement.

THE 'SKINS WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER GAME IN 2010.

Haslett is gone at the end of another dreadful season of Redskins football. Maybe shanny lil-shanny should be gone too.

Posted by: alocowboy | November 16, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

The Day After Recap.

Any hope that there is any reason to keep Albert Haynesworth next season evaporated in the rain last night. He was dominated, he was lazy, and he didn't look like he wanted to get dirty. He was embarrassing to watch.

Offensive play calling was horrible. Rollouts were working yet stopped being called. The Eagles were actually biting on play action yet it wasn't used often. Receivers were dropping balls like Carlos Rogers coached 'em up real well.

Defense. No energy or hustle. This game would have at least been able to be put into a positive perspective if they had lost while blitzing and hitting Vick, but the defense never adapted to the side to side runs of Vick. It became apparent the one place Vick wouldn't run was up the middle and adjustments should have been made - even to the point of putting only safeties, corner backs, and linebackers on the field. The only runner who was a consistent threat was Vick and he was doing damage on rollouts to the sides- and we needed speed people.

This offense has no receivers being utilized. The old farts need to get off the field and we need to bring that Austin kid off the practice squad now!

The one gem from last night was the new running back - number 36. He will be a great addition - he makes people pay plus he can catch the ball!

One of the worst game plans on both sides of the ball I've ever seen.

Kudos for our beloved 16 who plays with more fire and intensity than half the overpaid players and gains more yards on each return while hurt than that puke Randle El did while healthy.

We made the dog killer look unbeatable. And he is beatable. The problem was our defense didn't force him to change his running ways and to ensure every time he took off, he would damage a rib.

Posted by: laserwizard | November 16, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

They gave up two picks for McNabb. They almost have to keep him at least one more year. It does bother me that at team with so many roster holes is already going into the next draft minus their 3rd and 4th round picks.
If they didn't keep McNabb then one of their first two picks would have to be a QB. A rookie QB on this team would not be any better than McNabb. That would leave you a 2nd round pick to upgrade the rest of the roster. Guys in the 5th, 6th and 7th round generally aren't going to improve your team all that much. Not saying you can't luck out on a guy but generally they are depth and special teams type players.

Posted by: renhoekk2 | November 16, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

in the process he left his man free to block another redskin, in this case AC99. so, where's the folks that say he's our best defender ? the dude is a lazy pos

Posted by: hessone | November 16, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I am disgusted at watching that AH clip. I think Gruden said something like "Wow...that is not something you want to put on tape..."

If Shanahan reviews this film with the team, how can AH face his teammates after that play?

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | November 16, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Chad Dukes melting down.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 16, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised it's taken this long to address the worst off-season move the 'Skins made...switching to the 3-4. At least there was some semblance of continuity with this team. Sure Blache altered what Gregg Williams had done, but the defense was pretty stout. Orakpo could have been an end in a 4-3 and a backer at times as well. Haynesworth, Golston, Carter, Daniels, Alexander, Carriker...there were lots of bodies to use in the 4-3. It's not like you can't blitz in a 4-3. And if they wanted to make changes, they could have. It just seems that they get gashed in the interior of the defense frequently. The offense has always been a sore spot, but if this defense was ranked number 10 or 11 like they were last year, we would be in a much better position. All of the turnovers they have forced this year are more of a result of being on the field for so many long drives. Eventually the opposition will make a mistake. Last night's effort was horrendous and was so because of the system. There are so many holes on D because of the system change. Now looking forward to the draft, you need a WR, a NT, an outside backer, a safety and of course OLINE help. And a running back. If they kept the 3-4 safety is really the only glaring need. Eccchhhh....

Posted by: lavararrington | November 16, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised it's taken this long to address the worst off-season move the 'Skins made...switching to the 3-4. At least there was some semblance of continuity with this team. Sure Blache altered what Gregg Williams had done, but the defense was pretty stout. Orakpo could have been an end in a 4-3 and a backer at times as well. Haynesworth, Golston, Carter, Daniels, Alexander, Carriker...there were lots of bodies to use in the 4-3. It's not like you can't blitz in a 4-3. And if they wanted to make changes, they could have. It just seems that they get gashed in the interior of the defense frequently. The offense has always been a sore spot, but if this defense was ranked number 10 or 11 like they were last year, we would be in a much better position. All of the turnovers they have forced this year are more of a result of being on the field for so many long drives. Eventually the opposition will make a mistake. Last night's effort was horrendous and was so because of the system. There are so many holes on D because of the system change. Now looking forward to the draft, you need a WR, a NT, an outside backer, a safety and of course OLINE help. And a running back. If they kept the 4-3 safety is really the only glaring need. Eccchhhh....

Posted by: lavararrington | November 16, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised it's taken this long to address the worst off-season move the 'Skins made...switching to the 3-4. At least there was some semblance of continuity with this team. Sure Blache altered what Gregg Williams had done, but the defense was pretty stout. Orakpo could have been an end in a 4-3 and a backer at times as well. Haynesworth, Golston, Carter, Daniels, Alexander, Carriker...there were lots of bodies to use in the 4-3. It's not like you can't blitz in a 4-3. And if they wanted to make changes, they could have. It just seems that they get gashed in the interior of the defense frequently. The offense has always been a sore spot, but if this defense was ranked number 10 or 11 like they were last year, we would be in a much better position. All of the turnovers they have forced this year are more of a result of being on the field for so many long drives. Eventually the opposition will make a mistake. Last night's effort was horrendous and was so because of the system. There are so many holes on D because of the system change. Now looking forward to the draft, you need a WR, a NT, an outside backer, a safety and of course OLINE help. And a running back. If they kept the 4-3 safety is really the only glaring need. Eccchhhh....

Posted by: lavararrington | November 16, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised it's taken this long to address the worst off-season move the 'Skins made...switching to the 3-4. At least there was some semblance of continuity with this team. Sure Blache altered what Gregg Williams had done, but the defense was pretty stout. Orakpo could have been an end in a 4-3 and a backer at times as well. Haynesworth, Golston, Carter, Daniels, Alexander, Carriker...there were lots of bodies to use in the 4-3. It's not like you can't blitz in a 4-3. And if they wanted to make changes, they could have. It just seems that they get gashed in the interior of the defense frequently. The offense has always been a sore spot, but if this defense was ranked number 10 or 11 like they were last year, we would be in a much better position. All of the turnovers they have forced this year are more of a result of being on the field for so many long drives. Eventually the opposition will make a mistake. Last night's effort was horrendous and was so because of the system. There are so many holes on D because of the system change. Now looking forward to the draft, you need a WR, a NT, an outside backer, a safety and of course OLINE help. And a running back. If they kept the 3-4 safety is really the only glaring need. Eccchhhh....
Posted by: lavararrington | November 16, 2010 2:28 PM
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FIRE HASLETT!!!! blache had boring defense that were in the top 10 and rarely gave up more than 300 yrds a game BUT those defense always always gave the skins a chance to win games... bag the 3-4 and haslett!!!
the defense has been a disgrace all year... granted they did face a buzz saw last nite but they have been a disgrace all year... there have been great individual efforts (fletcher, landry, rak... meangelo for one game) but they don't play as a unit... the 4-3 was never broke... why change???
Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 16, 2010 1:01 P
Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 16, 2010 1:35 PM
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haslett is more of a disappointment than fat albert!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 16, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

The defensive coordinator/coach doesn't seem to be able to coordinate nor coach this defense. The 3-4 scheme isn't working with the personnel the Skins have. Go back to the other defense...the one they're used to. That wasn't really the problem last year. The real problem was the offensive line which, by the way, remains the problem.

Posted by: burnie4241 | November 16, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

AH took a play off and everyone wants him fired... the whole defensive unit took the whole game off - what should we do with them?

Posted by: SPUD2 | November 16, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins should give everyone who attended the Eagles 'Game' a refund. That was not a professional football game. It was men playing with boys. Most of the defensive players should not be paid.
I'd be ashamed to pick up a check if I were them.
Everyone wants to blame McNabb for the Redskins woes, but he doesn't play defense. He didn't allow the Eagles to score 59 points. Maybe the Redskins need to put a performance clauses in player contracts. You only get 1/2 pay if you loose and if you allow 40 or more points you get nothing. I'll bet you'd see some better effort then. I drive 8 hours round trip, plus 2 hours on the Metro round trip and walk 2 miles round trip to come to a game and I'm really getting tire of have to wait for 'next season'. As a fan and season ticket holder I pay for and expect to see PROFESSIONAL football and this is NOT it. I'm sad to say the only reason I'm going to the Viking's game is to see Brett Favre! The Redskin's proud history has been tarnisthed by the Redskins of the past 15 years. How about taking some pride as a Redskin player? You're embarrasing yourselves and your fans.

Posted by: skinsfan661 | November 16, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

They better tighten that sh#t up.

That defense is too talented to do that.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 16, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

With all due respect, you are an idiot.

This defense is exactly as talented as we saw last night. Once we all understand that, we'll all be a bit happier.

Posted by: watchingfromasia | November 16, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The 2nd worst team in the NFL (Carolina). This is not debatable. Anyone who thinks the Bills wouldn't come in here and roll up 28 on us is a complete fool.

Posted by: RickFelt | November 16, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

The 2nd worst team in the NFL (Carolina). This is not debatable. Anyone who thinks the Bills wouldn't come in here and roll up 28 on us is a complete fool.

Posted by: RickFelt | November 16, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

If Shanahan doesn't switch back to a 4/3 he is truely insane! For starters the Redskins DO NOT have the talent to play in a 3/4 and EVERYONE in the league knows that! It is well documented that Shanahan wanted this style of defense and hired Haslett to run it. So you really can't blame Haslett because he is just doing what Shanny wants. Blame Shanahan for this loss...no one else! He didn't have this team ready to play! I also want to tell Kyle Shanahan...YOUR PLAY CALLING SUCKS!!! After the Eagles scored on their opening drive...the Redskins open up with three straight run plays!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! BUSH LEAGUE SIR!!! BUSH LEAGUE!!!

Posted by: ekbinion68 | November 16, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

the defense sucks. It is Haslett's fault, he didn't provide Hainesworth with an alarm clock and he overslept on that little nap in the field. And we know why that was - It was the white man doing it to the man.

Posted by: hock1 | November 16, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

The beauty in all of this is that Jason Campbell is in Oakland and the Raiders have a very good chance of making the playoff's i couldn't be happier for JC after all the abuse he took, especially on this blog the management gave him nothing to work with; an O-line that damn near got him killed every sunday a QB coach masquerading as a head coach and a changing offensive scheme that changed every season along with the O-coordinator, JC was a class act on and off the field just like McNabb, the common denominator; they both got screwed here in DC.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 16, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I wear a size 13 shoe. If my wife comes home with a size 11, I'm sending her back to the store. Our top 10 defense over the last 10 years is a defense built with 4-3 personnel, not 3-4. It just doesn't fit. Haslett has to be a man and approach Shannahan with a 4-3 base scheme with a 3-4 sprinkled in.

Despite the offensive line and Kyle calling 2 runs and a pass on the first three series, the defensive scheme is killing this team. Haslett and his scheme is the WEAK LINK. KILL THE 3-4 NOW SHANNY!!!!

Posted by: uasport1 | November 16, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Where is all the talk about Landry and Rogers being pro bowl players? Last night demonstrated the weaknesses in both players. Weaknesses Blatch articulated,and took great criticism for doing so, and by playing it safe with those guys he was able to prevent the big play, after big play, after big play... If a defense stays on the field 40plus minutes a game you are bound to have players ranking at the top of the total tackles list. Landry and Fletcher are tied for 5th with 85, Hall is 19th with 71, McIntosh dropped to 27th with 67 total tackles. The Giants, ranked #1 in total defense, does not have anyone ranked in the top 40, the same could be said for #2 ranked San Diego. New Orleans the 3rd ranked defense, finally has Vilma showing up at #40 with 58 tackles. Clearly making millions of tackles gives a defensive player numerous opportunities for highlight moments, but it honestly is not the standard for judging pro bowl caliber players. These players do not fit the scheme and the coaches are not smart enough to figure that out but hey, they make some awfully great hits.

Posted by: jackattack949 | November 16, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

All is vanity.

Posted by: HenryBurlingame | November 16, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

All is vanity.

Posted by: HenryBurlingame | November 16, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

All is vanity.

Posted by: HenryBurlingame | November 16, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Opps... I meant Hall instead of Rodgers, I actually like Rodgers, in spite of him having no semblance of an ability to catch a football.

Posted by: jackattack949 | November 16, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

LOL@ the blog-tards wanting coaches fired.

Here's the reality:
The redskins PLAYERS:
1) are old
2) are ridiculously lazy
3) actually beleive their fan's hype about them

Get real, you idiots. Your team SUCKS.

Posted by: opinionatedinfairfax | November 16, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I hear Wade Phillips is looking for work. Maybe Danny Boy can hire him!!!

Posted by: wapocensorsbite | November 16, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

haynesworthless laying on the ground was not the cause of this as-whipping.the thing that behooves me is why does jim hasslett and kyle still have dam jobs? also this is not the friggin afc,so all that worked in denver and houston,will not,i repeat,will not ,work in the nfc-period!sometimes this defense looks so out of sorts,until there is no name for it other than confusion.

Posted by: billydee123 | November 16, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

So who is being held accountable? Why is Jim Haslett still employed? 2 weeks to prepare and this? I didn't notice any major adjustments during that beating either? Linebackers playing 15 yards off the line and safeties playing 25 yards deep giving Vick the ability to do whatever he wanted. Haslett is an idiot!

Posted by: nixx46 | November 16, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

We need:
1. to draft and develop a young franchise QB while McNabb finishes up here
2. a play making WR
3. a young RB, unless Torain keeps developing
4. a safety with brains to go along with Landry's alleged brawn
5. Shanahan to coach like he did in Denver. I can't believe if he's this great, he could take this type of loss laying down.

Posted by: nixx46 | November 16, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

we probably wont be any good, meaning division champ good, for at least 5 years.

with everything that has to come together, it looks like once part of our team gels, we need to fix another part

when landry, orakpo and t williams are perennial pro bowlers ready for a super bowl run, that's when mcnabb and FL59 will retire, so we'll need to fill those holes

it just looks like it's going to be an ongoing process of mediocrity around here like it's been for 70% of my life

again, who knows, but i'll still be here

HAIL

Posted by: retroskins14 | November 17, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

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